| EdwinGrubbs | wgrant: ping | 00:25 |
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| wgrant | EdwinGrubbs: Hi. | 00:29 |
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| EdwinGrubbs | wgrant: hi, I was wondering if you had any opinion about hiding the links at the top of the +related-software page if they are empty. There would always be a link on the person/team page pointing to +related-software, but the +uploaded-packages, +maintained-packages, +ppa-packages, and +related-projects links would be hidden if they were empty. | 00:55 |
| * mwhudson tries to pound the puller into breaking locally | 01:21 | |
| spm | mwhudson: :-) | 01:36 |
| mwhudson | completely unsuccessfully so far :( | 01:41 |
| wgrant | EdwinGrubbs: That's how I imagined it was intended to be. | 01:42 |
| spm | mwhudson: "if it was easy, we wouldn't have given it to you" <== story of my life and one you could take to heart as well ;-) | 01:42 |
| wgrant | What is the normal slave replication lag, and what is the maximum before requests all go to the masteR? | 01:43 |
| kfogel | dobey: pong | 01:53 |
| spm | wgrant: bugger and all; don't recall offhand - but not that long. a few mins max. | 01:56 |
| wgrant | spm: A few minutes is enormous... | 01:56 |
| spm | tradeoffs. most folk aren't modifying. | 01:56 |
| wgrant | API requests will now use a slave where possible. This is going to cause a lot of clients to get very angry. | 01:57 |
| gary_poster | wgrant: I don't think that is the case. What makes you think that? | 01:57 |
| wgrant | gary_poster: See devel r9703 | 01:57 |
| gary_poster | I think I know what that is, but double-checking. | 01:58 |
| wgrant | Oh. session cookie only. | 01:58 |
| wgrant | I guess that's less unreasonable. | 01:58 |
| gary_poster | right. this is for JS browser users. | 02:00 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: spm is wrong btw, lag is usually 5-10 seconds | 02:03 |
| gary_poster | mwhudson: hi. I have a bzr plugin problem with eggs in the branch where I'm trying to apply voodoo to make the build happy on karmic. I've "fixed" the horrible namespace package problem. | 02:03 |
| gary_poster | Now I only have two failures, both for the same reason. test_successful_start_then_stop and test_unexpected_error_logs_oops fail because they start up bzr, which tries to load plugins from all possible places including the system's site-packages, even though I'm not using the system 's bzr. | 02:03 |
| gary_poster | If you have plugins installed then bzr complains, because they cannot be imported. This causes test failures in assertFinishedCleanly: return code is 0, yes; stdout is empty, yes; but stderr is not empty: in my case, it is the following string: | 02:04 |
| gary_poster | "No module named dbus.bus\nUnable to load plugin 'dbus' from '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/bzrlib/plugins'\nNo module named dbus.bus\nUnable to load plugin 'avahi' from '/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/bzrlib/plugins'\n" | 02:04 |
| gary_poster | I have stepped through the bzr code and I do not see a way to tell the bzr commandline to please only use the plugin path I'm providing, and don't look anywhere else, especially not in the system site-packages. | 02:04 |
| gary_poster | Therefore, what I'm planning on doing is changing assertFinishCleanly to check that the return code is 0; check that the stdout is empty; and check that stderr is entirely comprised of 0 or more of those plugin error messages, using a regex. | 02:04 |
| gary_poster | Can you get behind that? The only other option I can see is making another LP-specific bzr egg change, which I am loathe to do. | 02:04 |
| gary_poster | (done) | 02:04 |
| spm | mwhudson: heh. that's a variation of definition. 5-10 secs to me is bugger and all. :-) | 02:04 |
| mwhudson | gary_poster: where are these tests? | 02:04 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: It's sometimes a lot more, though. | 02:05 |
| mwhudson | spm: you said "a few minutes max" -- it doesn't get as high as a minute very often though does it? | 02:05 |
| gary_poster | mwhudson: lp.codehosting.tests.test_lpserve.TestLaunchpadServe | 02:05 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: generally when something breaks, i think | 02:05 |
| mwhudson | gary_poster: looking | 02:05 |
| gary_poster | thank you | 02:05 |
| spm | mwhudson: very rarely - is something critical that we alert on. | 02:05 |
| mwhudson | gary_poster: ararargh! | 02:07 |
| gary_poster | mwhudson: well, yes | 02:07 |
| mwhudson | gary_poster: i guess your solution is ok | 02:09 |
| mwhudson | gary_poster: so long as there's a big fat XXX pointing at a bzr bug i'll find in a sec | 02:09 |
| gary_poster | mwhudson: heh, that sort of XXX would make me feel better, yes. | 02:09 |
| mwhudson | wth it's Fix Released | 02:11 |
| mwhudson | oh, but very recently | 02:12 |
| mwhudson | gary_poster: i think your patch is ok then, we should remove the hack when we upgrade bzr | 02:12 |
| mwhudson | gary_poster: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/316192 fwiw | 02:12 |
| mup | Bug #316192: bzrlib.plugin.load_plugins() loads system plugins even for non-system bzrlib <Bazaar:Fix Released by vila> <Launchpad Bazaar Integration:Fix Released by thumper> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/316192> | 02:12 |
| gary_poster | mwhudson: awesome that is fixed. OK, thank you very much. | 02:16 |
| mwhudson | gary_poster: np | 02:17 |
| mwhudson | spm: has u1 stopped exploding yet> | 02:57 |
| mwhudson | ? | 02:57 |
| wgrant | It's working enough for me to have discovered 5 XSS vulnerabilities in the past hour. | 02:57 |
| wgrant | (I am not amused) | 02:58 |
| mwhudson | :( | 03:01 |
| spm | mwhudson: sorta. in that the immediate stuff is now under control; now I move to the ZMOG 9999 priority stuff. I can do small simple things; else... busy :-/ | 03:08 |
| mwhudson | spm: ok | 03:16 |
| mwhudson | spm: btw the thing i want to talk to you about is one of those things where priority -> \infty as we get closer to karmic being released :-) | 03:18 |
| spm | mwhudson: heh. figures. | 03:19 |
| * mwhudson updates his puller bashing to be less wasteful | 04:11 | |
| spm | noodles775: 1. Heyo! 2. Bug 452730 for your attn :-) | 07:30 |
| mup | Bug #452730: lp_publish/ppa-generate-keys is broken atm <Soyuz:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/452730> | 07:30 |
| noodles775 | looking... | 07:30 |
| noodles775 | spm: do you know what the latency between the main and slave db servers is? | 08:12 |
| noodles775 | (just chasing one possibility for the above bug) | 08:13 |
| wgrant | noodles775: Oh, I know exactly what that bug is. | 08:13 |
| wgrant | devel r9687 | 08:13 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: it's related to r9687. | 08:13 |
| noodles775 | yep... | 08:14 |
| wgrant | There are now PPAs in production for users without a PPA named 'ppa'. | 08:14 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: sure, but the new method that's been added doesn't assume the name is ppa - it just grabs the first one. | 08:14 |
| wgrant | noodles775: But that code is only on edge. | 08:14 |
| wgrant | noodles775: Not on whatever machine runs ppa-generate-keys | 08:14 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: right. | 08:14 |
| wgrant | So Person.default_ppa still looks up a PPA named 'ppa', always. | 08:15 |
| noodles775 | yep - I'll chat to bigjools about getting r9687 cp'd. | 08:15 |
| noodles775 | Thanks wgrant | 08:15 |
| wgrant | That's what I suspected. Thanks. | 08:15 |
| wgrant | spm: U1 rollout not done yet, I hope? | 08:28 |
| spm | wgrant: partially. | 08:29 |
| adeuring | good morning | 08:29 |
| wgrant | spm: Great. I presumed it would be done after 3ish hours, but hoped it wasn't, given that it still seems broken. | 08:30 |
| spm | the app servers are done; but i'm having a mild pebkac issue with one of the back end services - unsure how related that is to the problems | 08:31 |
| wgrant | Uhoh. | 08:31 |
| spm | believed I didn't have the keys to push the new hotness up. turns out I did - in a different directory. le-sigh. | 08:32 |
| awilkins | jelmer: Why isn't Launchpad using subvertpy instead of python2.4-subversion .... I'd guess it's an immense fiddle to have both subversion 1.6.5 and launchpad-dependencies because of the python bindings? | 08:37 |
| wgrant | awilkins: Launchpad doesn't use bzr-svn. It uses a cscvs, horrible horrid horror which uses some strange svn bindings and predates subvertpy by several years. | 08:40 |
| awilkins | wgrant: I'm presuming that means that LP-monitored SVN branches are essentially trapped and the only way to get patches back to the original project is to ... send patches? | 08:42 |
| wgrant | awilkins: Yes. There is an intention to move to bzr-svn soon. | 08:43 |
| awilkins | wgrant: Is there a roadmap the public can see? How about git integration? When will this pestering get too annoying? ;p | 08:43 |
| wgrant | awilkins: I am the public. I do not know of such a roadmap. | 08:44 |
| wgrant | 'git integration'? | 08:44 |
| awilkins | LP using git in the same capacity it uses bzr, where possible | 08:45 |
| wgrant | That is not on the roadmap even if it does exist. | 08:45 |
| wgrant | win 23 | 08:57 |
| gmb | Morning padlaunchers. | 09:04 |
| mrevell | Morning! | 09:14 |
| * wgrant wonders whether to consider it safe to dive back into Canonical-produced code... | 09:15 | |
| wgrant | maybe as long as it isn't webapp code. | 09:15 |
| awilkins | That on IP grounds, or just because it's scary? :-) | 09:16 |
| wgrant | Scary in bad ways. | 09:18 |
| jml | wgrant, that's simply not fair. | 10:04 |
| wgrant | jml: Hm? | 10:05 |
| wgrant | What have I done now? | 10:09 |
| jml | wgrant, Canonical-produced code isn't that scary | 10:09 |
| jml | and it's not a fair category. | 10:09 |
| wgrant | jml: It is scary in that I don't know how many more fucking obvious huge vulnerabilities I will discvoer. | 10:10 |
| jml | wgrant, oh ok. | 10:15 |
| jml | wgrant, yeah, that sucks. :) | 10:15 |
| wgrant | Although LP has less of them than U1, or they are less obvious. This is good. | 10:16 |
| jml | allenap, hi | 10:45 |
| jml | allenap, do you have any idea how to stop PQM from sending success messages to the Launchpad list every time we do an automatic merge from stable? | 10:46 |
| jml | (you don't have to, but I thought I'd ask someone) | 10:46 |
| jml | allenap, I've read your test parallelization email & lifeless's reply. | 11:19 |
| jml | allenap, I don't have much to add to what Rob said, except to say that I'm happy for you to call to talk about stuff if you think that'll help. | 11:19 |
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| gmb | jml: Do you have any idea why I'd see http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/294573/ when running ec2 demo? | 11:39 |
| gmb | What do I need to do to ec2 to know who I am in LP? | 11:39 |
| jml | gmb, the unhelpful answer to your first question is that our ec2 tools lack tests. | 11:40 |
| gmb | Hah. | 11:41 |
| jml | gmb, give me a minute to finish what I'm doing now and I'll have a look & see what's going on. | 11:41 |
| gmb | jml: Ta muchley. | 11:41 |
| mrevell | Can anyone remind me where to find the API uses wiki page? | 11:49 |
| mrevell | Of course, it's https://help.launchpad.net/API/Uses | 11:50 |
| noodles775 | lol | 11:50 |
| jml | gmb, ok. I'm all yours. | 11:55 |
| jml | gmb, can you paste me the full log of what you're doing, from command through to error? | 11:56 |
| jml | gmb, also, what do you get when you type 'bzr launchpad-login' | 12:01 |
| gmb | jml: So, full log: https://pastebin.canonical.com/23397/ | 12:01 |
| gmb | jml: `bzr launchpad-login` gives me `gmb` | 12:01 |
| jml | gmb, thanks. | 12:02 |
| jml | gmb, I'm going to try reproducing the problem locally. | 12:02 |
| gmb | ok | 12:03 |
| jml | "I told him to go away and reproduce his problem, but not in those words exactly" | 12:05 |
| jml | (why I'm not Woody Allen) | 12:05 |
| jml | gmb, try applying this patch http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/294591/. You'll need to do it in a branch that's not the branch that you want to demo (I recommend stable) | 12:06 |
| gmb | jml: Okay, bear with me a sec... | 12:07 |
| gmb | jml: Works. Thanks! | 12:13 |
| gmb | jml: r=me on the patch if it needs landing ;) | 12:13 |
| jml | gmb, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jml/launchpad/fix-ec2-demo/+merge/13461 | 12:13 |
| gmb | jml: Approved. | 12:14 |
| jml | gmb, thanks. | 12:14 |
| jml | gosh ec2 land is handy. | 12:16 |
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| bigjools | :) | 12:17 |
| bigjools | is there a mode on it to send straight to PQM? | 12:17 |
| jml | bigjools, no, I thought of doing that. | 12:17 |
| bigjools | 'twould be useful for us heathens | 12:17 |
| jml | bigjools, but then mwh said "what's the point?" and "your branch is too big already" | 12:17 |
| bigjools | I can think of many points | 12:18 |
| jml | bigjools, I'll happily review a patch for adding a --no-test option or similar. | 12:18 |
| jml | alternatively | 12:18 |
| bigjools | ok when I have some time I'll ask you for a pre-imp on that | 12:18 |
| jml | I'll trade you that for a vfs backend on soyuz so people can rename their accounts if they have PPAs. | 12:18 |
| bigjools | heh | 12:19 |
| bigjools | I suspect that would push the renaming problem elsewhere, but I am not unsympathetic to it | 12:19 |
| bac | bigjools, jml: i though of adding a --no-test option, but it seemed a little perverse since the point of the script is to send things off to ec2 | 13:02 |
| bac | bigjools: you can do 'ec2 land --print-commit' and combine the results with 'bzr pqm-submit' | 13:02 |
| bigjools | I think its use lies more in the automation of the perverse options we have to put in the commit string | 13:02 |
| bac | bigjools: i understand. i've had the need myself but it still felt odd. | 13:03 |
| bac | bigjools: so an alias of: bzr pqm-submit -m "`ec2 land --print-commit`" or some variation may work | 13:04 |
| bigjools | bac: that's so sick I love it :) | 13:05 |
| bac | :) | 13:05 |
| bac | bigjools: and it doesn't have to go through code review! | 13:05 |
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| allenap | jml: I don't know how to prevent PQM from sending success messages, but I'll have a look. | 13:15 |
| allenap | jml: Thank you for reading through my message. I think Rob's reply is very useful to help me approach the problem, but I'll ask you about implementation as I go along. | 13:15 |
| jml | allenap, cool. don't worry too much about the PQM thing, I've now just set up a rule so I don't get those emails any more :) | 13:17 |
| allenap | jml: Jolly good :) | 13:17 |
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| bac | sinzui: https://edge.launchpad.net/gnome | 13:42 |
| sinzui | bac: are you hinting that I fix the licenses for all those projects? | 13:44 |
| sinzui | bac: This page looks better | 13:45 |
| sinzui | bac: Do you know why the projects state they are proprietary when they are have a subscription: https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-project | 13:49 |
| sinzui | bigjools: What is the license for https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-buildd | 13:51 |
| bac | sinzui: nothing so deep. i was showing you that our tiny little fix allows the gnome page to load without OOPSing | 14:29 |
| * sinzui nods | 14:29 | |
| bigjools | sinzui: good question | 14:30 |
| sinzui | https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+milestone/3.1.10 | 14:44 |
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| Ursinha | err, better here | 15:43 |
| Ursinha | salgado: ping :) | 15:43 |
| Ursinha | salgado: hey, I'm checking the oopses here and I see occurrences of UnicodeDecodeError in +filebug | 15:44 |
| Ursinha | salgado: OOPS-1384C2001 | 15:44 |
| Ursinha | err | 15:44 |
| Ursinha | salgado: https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=OOPS-1384C2001 | 15:45 |
| Ursinha | salgado: is this related to bug 61171 | 15:45 |
| Ursinha | ? | 15:45 |
| mup | Bug #61171: +login page OOPSes if query string has accented chars encoded as ASCII <oops> <Apport:Invalid> <Launchpad Foundations:Fix Released by salgado> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/61171> | 15:45 |
| salgado | Ursinha, no, this is something else | 15:47 |
| dobey | hey guys | 15:56 |
| dobey | is it possible to change the comment string on a GPG key that was generated for a user/team for PPAs? | 15:56 |
| Ursinha | salgado: I've filed another bug, bug 453203 | 16:15 |
| mup | Bug #453203: UnicodeDecodeError in +filebug: unexpected code byte <oops> <Launchpad Bugs:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/453203> | 16:15 |
| Ursinha | maybe a bugs' person could take a look on it | 16:15 |
| Ursinha | hi allenap | 16:19 |
| allenap | Ursinha: Hi! | 16:19 |
| Ursinha | :) | 16:19 |
| Ursinha | allenap: do you have some time to take a look at bug 453203, please? | 16:19 |
| mup | Bug #453203: UnicodeDecodeError in +filebug: unexpected code byte <oops> <Launchpad Bugs:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/453203> | 16:19 |
| allenap | Ursinha: Looking now. That's an odd one. | 16:22 |
| Ursinha | thanks allenap | 16:26 |
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| jcinpv | Running Ubuntu 9.04 in Virtualbox on an Intel Mac; After a recent update, the Window Manager does not launch on start up or restart, but does launch after logging out and back in. Going to System->Preferences->Windows, get error message: 'Cannot start the preferences application for your window manager; Window manager "unknown" has not registered a configuration tool.' I have deleted .gnome2, .gnome2_private, .gconf, and .gconfd to | 17:50 |
| jcinpv | no avail and I have reproduced the problem in a new user account. Where to look? | 17:50 |
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| Ursinha | jcinpv: I think you may find more useful advices on #ubuntu | 17:56 |
| mrevell | Have a good weekend all. | 18:01 |
| * rockstar lunches | 18:02 | |
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| jcinpv | Ursinha: Been there. No help. | 18:52 |
| jcinpv | They suggested I submit a bug. | 18:52 |
| jcinpv | Where do I submit a bug? | 18:53 |
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| Ursinha | jcinpv: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug | 19:04 |
| jcinpv | Ursinha: Thanks. Bug submitted. | 19:57 |
| Ursinha | np jcinpv, sorry not being that helpful | 19:58 |
| jcinpv | Ursinha: You were very helpful in pointing me to the right place to file a bug. My first time. | 20:05 |
| Ursinha | jcinpv: in this case, glad that helped :) | 20:07 |
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| rockstar | abentley, chat? | 21:37 |
| abentley | rockstar: 1 sec | 21:37 |
| rockstar | abentley, just call when ready. | 21:38 |
| barry | are there any bugs folks still around? allenap, gmb, intellectronica, deryck | 21:48 |
| rockstar | abentley, that lag is terrible. | 21:49 |
| abentley | rockstar: and unpredictable... | 21:49 |
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| gary_poster | night all | 22:18 |
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