[04:58] <troy_s> kwwii: Is there any chance of getting more animation frames into the wireless connecting animation of the monochrome icons?
[05:18] <troy_s> Depressing.
[06:36] <picklesworth> Hey :) Sorry, I can't stick around to say much (must sleep...), but I just want to prod bug #436487 , which hasn't had any movement yet. I provided a fix, so should be a simple merge that magically enables 3 new wallpapers!
[07:09] <darkmatter> troy_s: depressing would be? I'm guessing the complette lack of any artistic progress in linux in general, and the continued reliance on 1196 and 'not created here' graphical styles that make it feel like a cheap ripoff? :o
[09:11] <kwwii> picklesworth: hey, thanks for pointing that out
[09:11] <kwwii> picklesworth: you should have said something earlier...I cannot change anything now
[09:11] <kwwii> and hadn't noticed that bug before
[10:20] <mac_v> kwwii: do you want this bug fixed?  > Bug 452704
[10:21] <mac_v> seems like ibus uses separate icon ibus-off for that
[10:22] <mac_v> mat_t , kwwii: the gdm still doesnt have icons for the gpm-* in the white glow style
[10:23] <mac_v> oh.. lol .. the power icon has been removed  , guess that solves the gpm-* ;p
[10:23] <zniavre2_> :o)
[10:24] <zniavre2_> if there is no solution , then there is no problem ...
[10:43]  * darkmatter removes mac_v
[11:34] <kwwii> mac_v: honestly, I have no idea what an iBus is ;)
[11:36] <mac_v> kwwii: seems to be something that controls the keyboard layout and setup, check from the system > preferences > ibus prefs
[11:36]  * mac_v doesnt use it either :/
[11:37] <kwwii> eventually, all the icons in the panel need to be in the same style, so I guess having it would be good ;)
[11:38] <mac_v> mat_t_: you beat me to it ;) /me was just about to comment the same ;) Bug 450903
[11:38] <darkmatter> iBus = the thing Apple employees use to mass commute to work in the morning :P
[11:38] <mac_v> kwwii: i meant is it release essential ? ;)
[11:38] <kwwii> mac_v: no, I would guess not
[11:38] <mac_v> \o/
[11:39] <kwwii> mac_v: as in, I don't have anyone who could push it in any more
[11:39] <mac_v> thats enough to be non-critical ...
[11:39] <mac_v> ;)
[11:59] <mat_t_> mac_v: at least once I beat you... :)
[12:40] <kwwii> picklesworth: hey, thanks for poking me about that bug, it is fixed now :)
[12:40] <kwwii> picklesworth: I always search for "wallpaper" bugs...have to remeber to look for background too
[12:57] <zniavre_> hello / bonjour
[12:57] <zniavre_> the white ubuntu logo on usplash where it is installed please
[12:58] <zniavre_> it seems to be too zoomed on this pc but looks ok on my laptop
[12:58] <zniavre_> but on my laptop the background of gdm is a bit "dirty?"
[12:59] <mac_v> zniavre_: i have the same problem too.. are you using a widescreen?
[12:59] <mac_v> the logo looks ugly :/
[13:00] <mac_v> for me it gets stretched horizontally and creates a weird effect
[13:00] <zniavre_> 1600x1200x105hertz  on pc (uggly logo)    1024x768x60hertz on laptop (logo ok)
[13:00] <zniavre_> i do not think it's widescreen no?
[13:01] <zniavre_> bbl
[13:01] <kwwii> it should be somewhere like /usr/share/xsplash
[13:02] <zniavre2_> éé i forgot this new slow laptop
[13:04] <mac_v> the /usr/share/images/xsplash ,is where the wallpaper and stuff are , but this logo is pulled from somewhere else
[13:04] <mac_v> zniavre2_: i think mat_t_ would know ;)
[13:04] <kwwii> hrm, it might be in the usplash
[13:05] <kwwii> if it's in the usplash you'll need to get the package
[13:06] <mac_v> kwwii: the sad part it the logo looks good when i test it in virtual box , but on my laptop it gets stretched and looks awkward :/
[13:06] <zniavre2_> same here on pc
[13:06] <kwwii> mac_v: my guess is that the monitor detection is not going as well as it should
[13:06] <mac_v> zniavre2_: /usr/share/icons/HumanLoginIcons/apps/64/computer.png
[13:07] <kwwii> that is not the icon which is used for that, though it is the same visual thing
[13:07] <mac_v> oh.. lol ;p
[13:07] <kwwii> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/usplash-theme-ubuntu/0.27 is what you want
[13:08] <darkmatter> kwwii: monitor detection has never been good (at least for the last three or four releases). I always get defaulted to 800. last time my brother tried an install, it tossed his 1440 to 1280 xD
[13:09] <kwwii> darkmatter: yepp, sad but true
[13:10] <mac_v> yup , it is in the source
[13:10] <zniavre> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/187396/Capture-1.png
[13:10] <zniavre> i almost see it like that
[13:10] <zniavre> maybe worst in real usplash
[13:10] <kwwii> ouch
[13:10] <kwwii> I am sure there is a bug about this
[13:11] <zniavre> launchpad.net
[13:11] <zniavre> oops sorry
[13:11]  * mac_v feels that canonical wasted time on xsplash ;) could have used the plymouth instead ;p
[13:14] <darkmatter> xsplash is nice, but the xsplash > gdm > xsplash feels weird. at least drop the post-login splash. a decent preload on gnome brings up the desktop in the blink of an eye anyway. also. take a leason from video apps. hide the mouse pointer unless the mouse is moved :P
[13:14] <zniavre> darkmatter,  right
[13:15] <mac_v> darkmatter: its actually *usplash* >  xsplash > gdm > xsplash
[13:15] <mac_v> thats where the white logo is used
[13:15] <kwwii> but in some cases it will be usplash, xsplash, usplash, xsplash, gdm xsplash
[13:15] <kwwii> fsck and such
[13:15] <darkmatter> or give a custom 'login' splash. as it is the peat meets repeat thing makes it feel 'jerky' even 'buggy'
[13:16] <mac_v> lol , yeah.. the pointer is redundant  , when we already have a throbber ;p
[13:16] <darkmatter> well.. it is buggy, but even if it wasn't it would still feel as such
[13:16] <kwwii> darkmatter: actually, there is a really good bug report about some of those problems: bug #371591
[13:18] <darkmatter> kwwii: I get the tearing in vm. plus the cylon 'bounces'... it creates this bimbo-ish 'omfg! I'm loading!' sensation that makes me wanna beat it to death xD
[13:28] <kwwii> darkmatter: hehe, yeah
[13:29] <darkmatter> and as for post login. I'd personally expand on the way suse handles it (suse's gnome loading is pretty slick, but not perfect). basically animate the panels into place like suse does. maybe patch nautilus to animate in icons, but delay the animations for a second or two (basically force a hidden state until the local bits are fully loaded. since the default is to show the gdm background until the setting load, maybe even fade in the 
[14:43] <picklesworth> kwwii: You're welcome, and thanks for merging the fix :)
[15:39] <dashua> mac_v, ping
[15:40] <dashua> http://www.speedyshare.com/958155553.html
[15:40] <dashua> Tell me what you think of that when you get a chance :)
[15:41] <dashua> Or anyone else kwwii, zniavre
[15:47] <FLOZz> Hello all  _o/
[16:00] <zniavre> i like the metacity
[16:02] <zniavre> oops error
[16:06] <zniavre> dashua,  hover the inactive buttons gives something strange
[16:06] <zniavre> for metacity *
[16:06] <dashua> Box drawn, you mean?
[16:10] <darkmatter> cool. chrome os is chrome enhanced. go figure
[16:10] <zniavre> http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/695/capture2p.png    in top left > close button on inactive xchat window
[16:18] <mac_v> dashua: hey
[16:21] <mac_v> dashua: looks good :) ... only the buttons have a sharp gradient in the middle
[16:29] <darkmatter> eat my browser os! http://www.techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/chromeostheme2.jpg :P
[16:30] <zniavre> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enabledisable-ctrlaltbackspace-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html
[19:47] <benste> hi, as you're the one working with artwork packages I wanted to ask how to build a deb package for ubuntu which will just install some files into a specific dir
[19:47] <benste> in absic packaging guide, only creating out of source code is explained
[20:05] <benste> no one home ?
[21:12] <dashua> zniavre, Yep.  Let me fix that.
[21:13] <dashua> mac_v, Thx
[21:33] <dashua> zniavre, Fixed and pushed.  :)
[21:43] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/27669/screenshot_qOj4t6.png
[21:45] <BHSPitMonkey> nice
[21:48] <kwwii> dashua: the panel looks nice
[21:49] <dashua> kwwii, Thx :)
[21:49] <dashua> I pushed it up with new metacity, should be pretty complete
[21:49] <dashua> As an extra or something
[21:49] <kwwii> cool
[21:50] <kwwii> we could make a package out of it and put it in universe
[21:50] <kwwii> and/or put it in a ppa
[21:50] <dashua> Awesome :)
[21:50] <kwwii> omg....http://www.crispycones.com/
[21:50] <dashua> It's brancehd under human-theme in LP
[21:51] <dashua> branched*
[21:53] <dashua> kwwii, Damn, they look pretty delectable. :)
[21:56] <kwwii> :p
[21:56] <kwwii> dashua: cool, I'll look into it soon
[21:56] <kwwii> but not tonight, too late on a friday for real work :p
[21:56] <dashua> kwwii, Ok np :)