[00:06] <bodhi_zazen> Welcome RanDom33 =)
[00:07] <bodhi_zazen> most of us learn by doing, or at least I do
[00:07] <RanDom33> bodhi_zazen, thanks for the welcome
[00:08] <bodhi_zazen> If you are interested in learning, come on to #ubuntu-beginners
[00:08] <bodhi_zazen> not exactly an education channel, but this channel if used primarily by the UCLP for administration
[00:09] <bodhi_zazen> the UCLP project is yet young and we are in process of building courses
[01:21] <RanDom33> Saj0577, what is the name of the beginner channel that i was in
[01:22] <RanDom33> found it
[14:11] <doctormo> Morning all
[15:10] <pleia2> morning doctormo
[16:57] <cprofitt> pleia2, what is the best way to get ahold of dinda?
[16:58] <pleia2> cprofitt: I'd email her, I think she's traveling at the moment
[16:58] <cprofitt> k
[16:59] <cprofitt> need to talk to her about Edubuntu -- I am getting asked questions about it by some EDU magazines
[17:00] <pleia2> might consider talking to laserjock in #edubuntu too
[17:00] <pleia2> he runs the project and is very approachable
[17:32] <cprofitt> pleia2, doing so now
[17:32]  * pleia2 sees :)
[17:33] <cprofitt> The courses for schools to use are the ones I really have a high interest in focusing on
[17:33] <cprofitt> if he has requests... that will really help the UCLP
[17:33] <cprofitt> and could funnel educators willing to help us write courses.
[17:40] <pleia2> yeah, that'd be great
[17:58] <cprofitt> thanks for the information pleia2 - that went well
[19:06] <cprofitt> hey bodhi_zazen
[19:28] <bodhi_zazen> 'lo cprofitt
[19:28] <cprofitt> hey bodhi_zazen
[19:30] <cprofitt> I hope to get some stuff from LaserJock in regards to course requests they have had from the EduBuntu side
[20:09] <doctormo> Sounds good to me
[20:12] <cprofitt> doctormo, yes...
[20:12] <cprofitt> it focuses on the arena I am focused on -- mostly because of my job
[20:13] <cprofitt> doctormo, is bioselement back on the team?
[20:13] <doctormo> cprofitt: He said he was, and was back in the IRC channel that night
[20:14] <doctormo> cprofitt: Send an appology to me (and to you?) about everything.
[20:14] <cprofitt> I believe I got one...
[20:14] <cprofitt> not sure if it was the same he sent you...
[20:15] <doctormo> No, this one was addressed to me.
[20:15] <cprofitt> k - then we got different ones.
[20:16] <cprofitt> Have you calmed down from that evening as well?
[20:17] <doctormo> Yes
[20:17] <doctormo> Although I didn't think there was anything we couldn't work out. Just that it would take longer than it has to work everythign out.
[20:18] <cprofitt> I think some of the accusations made that night could have escalated to non-repairable
[20:19] <doctormo> Even licking one's plate is a repairable situation. Hurt feelings are a matter for the humble side of ourselves.
[20:20] <cprofitt> True, but  some things ascend to a level above just us.
[20:22] <cprofitt> hurt feelings are also different than damage to trust
[20:24] <doctormo> cprofitt: Very rarely have I seen conversations get anywhere near that level in any ubuntu irc channel, this one has been particulary active in ego, but not in trust breakage.
[20:24] <doctormo> bodhi_zazen and I may not see eye to eye, but I wouldn't not trust him on what he knows or to be a good leader and looking out for the group. Nor anyone else.
[20:25] <doctormo> A problem of charicter is not always transferable to trust. If that's what you meant.
[20:26] <cprofitt> that is not what I mean -- you made an accusation in reference to me that indicates you have a lack of trust with me.
[20:27] <cprofitt> I think you were out of line and off based due to emotion, but nothing I have seen indicates that to be the case.
[20:27] <cprofitt> so that leaves a lingering question in regards to that accusation and your trust level with me
[20:28] <cprofitt> while I may be 'reading' too much in to it... that is still something I am concerned with
[20:29] <Raidsong> +
[20:29] <cprofitt> hello Raidsong
[20:30] <Raidsong> hello
[20:30] <Raidsong> my cat left you a message
[20:30]  * cprofitt scratches head
[20:30] <cprofitt> not following Raidsong
[20:31] <Raidsong> the + was my cat
[20:37] <cprofitt> if a + is a cat... then what is a - ?
[20:41] <Raidsong> a dog
[20:41] <Raidsong> or a lemur
[20:42] <cprofitt> I vote lemur
[20:43] <cprofitt> wow... we are making solid progress here
[20:48] <Raidsong> we are indeed
[21:48] <doctormo> cprofitt: I trust that you will do right by this community. There aren't enough instances where you've behaved overly sensitive to consider it a trend. I'm sorry if I blew that out of proportion with the accusation that you were always like that and thus unfit for leading this community.
[21:49]  * cprofitt listens
[21:51] <RanDom33> cprofitt, good day
[21:52] <cprofitt> hello RanDom33
[21:52] <RanDom33> cprofitt, we talked last night, just saying hi.. im on 64 bit koala now ;) just finished getting flash plugin working
[21:53] <cprofitt> Nice.
[21:53] <cprofitt> did you get VirtualBox working as well
[21:53] <RanDom33> not yet
[21:53] <RanDom33> just got home from work
[21:53] <cprofitt> sorry to hear that...
[21:53] <RanDom33> and got flash up
[21:53] <RanDom33> i got rid of 32 bit
[21:53] <RanDom33> you all convinced me
[21:54] <RanDom33> to try 64
[21:54] <cprofitt> I am eager to hear how it turns out... as I use VBox and can not move forward w/o VBox
[21:54] <cprofitt> yeah... 64bit is ready for primetime
[21:54] <cprofitt> I have been using it since 8.04
[21:54] <RanDom33> i did manage at the very end of last night to get a virtualbox-ose working
[21:54] <RanDom33> rather than virtualbox-3.0
[21:54] <RanDom33> not sure of the difference
[21:56] <RanDom33> open source edition
[22:04] <cprofitt> doctormo, I appreciate that you still trust me. I also appreciate you are willing to express that you blew the incident out of proportion. As a leader in the community yourself it is important to mirror the behavior you seek to see in others. I agree with you that this project, especially in IRC, has a much too acidic nature to it.
[22:05] <doctormo> cprofitt: Of course, the leadership CoC is a fairly high ideal. We're still only human and I'd like to think that we're all able to be given space to make mistakes.
[22:06] <cprofitt> I strongly appreciate your contribution and efforts to the project.
[22:06] <doctormo> This group has had a lot of input, and because everyone was fairly sure of their desires before they were confident of everyone elses. It ended up a little too conflicting.
[22:06] <cprofitt> I also understand that emotions will at times get the better of people.
[22:06] <doctormo> cprofitt: Of course, of everyone.
[22:08] <doctormo> OK, time to go and talk to lots of NGOs about why Free Software should be a consideration at the Grassroots Tech conf.
[22:08] <cprofitt> good luck