[00:04] I installed a ubuntu server into vmware. Everytime I power if up, I have to run sudo dhclient to make it get ip to work with my net. How to automatize it? [00:11] afeijo what vmware you used? [00:13] sorry, it is virtualbox 3 [00:13] I use vmware at office, I'm used to say vmware lol [00:14] lol i never couldnt make ubuntu-server work in vbox [00:14] pretty simple, no problem there. I installed ubuntu 9.04 x64 [00:15] so, can I add dhclient to init.d or something? === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying [01:06] New bug: #452655 in thunderbird (main) "Mozilla Thunderbird Presents Gap in Subject - Thunderbird does not compact /t into a space" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/452655 [01:30] New bug: #452665 in eucalyptus (main) "eucalyptus-cloud runs without any option set" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/452665 [01:46] New bug: #452669 in php5 (main) "cacti" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/452669 [03:09] Halo, has anyone known a way to avoid conflict between configuration interfaces file & network-manager? [03:11] Anyone here? [03:12] By purging network manager [03:12] you won't get much help with GUI tools here, try #ubuntu [03:12] qman__: NM is a daemon, not a GUI [03:13] IME NM is the single biggest cause of outages on Ubuntu systems, so I always make damn sure it is purged. [03:13] I only ever use it on desktops, because it's convenient for wireless [03:13] otherwise, it's gone [03:13] I would only ever CONSIDER using it on a roaming host (i.e. laptop) with wifi. [03:14] For my own machine, I use wpa-cli. For end users, I might consider wifi-radar as an alternative -- I haven't had a chance to investigate wifi-radar properly, but I hear good things about it (better than NM, anyway). [03:16] Incidentally, NM isn't installed by default if you use the ubuntu-server install media, which is what you should be using for servers. [03:16] Before, I have NW working properly. After I figure out interfaces configuration file then NW is not work but network still available :( [03:17] I see on Ubuntu's community document have notice conflict between them [03:20] tiger2wander: When you configure network by manually editing interfaces file, networkmanager sees it is previously configured and does not do anything with it. [03:21] This is the normal and proper behaviour [03:21] New bug: #452718 in bacula (universe) "Bacula cdrashed on install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/452718 [03:22] genii, Can I avoid this check from NW? [03:24] tiger2wander: As twb said, networkmanager is not the default for ubuntu-server installs and so not supported here. [03:26] genii, ah, ok thanks! [03:27] genii: well, stuff like postfix isn't installed by default either, so that metric isn't too accurate :-) [03:32] Difference between of Ubuntu Server & UEC are: UEC plus eucalyptus? any difference remain? [04:06] Neither reload nor force-reload causes udev to update /dev/by-uuid; RESTARTING udev does. [04:06] Is there a less brute-force way to update by-uuid? [04:08] people [04:09] how can i connect to mysql from WAN? [04:09] wizardslovak, you have to tell mysql to listen on an IP [04:09] by default it listens on a local unix socket [04:09] oo [04:10] can you point me how to do it? [04:13] it's in the main config, commented out [04:14] /etc/mysql/my.cnf, bind-address [04:15] ok it shows local adress [04:15] 127.0.0.1 [04:17] should i delete it and put my wan ip ? [04:19] put the IP to listen on, the one the local machine is using [04:20] wait you lost me [04:20] LAn ip or WAN ip [04:21] you can only listen on IP addresses assigned to the local machine [04:22] I don't know what your setup is like, you have to determine what that is [04:22] ok so server is on router [04:22] you set it to where you want to accept connections from, from the perspective of the machine running the service [04:24] also, if you're accepting connections over the internet, make sure you use strong passwords on all accounts [04:24] and keep in mind that mysql doesn't have encryption [04:24] so i can connect to it from other pc across the town [04:36] New bug: #452754 in eucalyptus (main) "eucalyptus link local address should be labeled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/452754 [04:39] im trying to write a sh file that will start apache2, is this correct sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start [04:40] it keeps saying this when i try to run it sudo: ./start.sh: command not found [04:48] baffle: 'sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 start' is more correct. [04:48] bah, he left, nvm [04:49] chmod +x being his real problem of course... [05:10] Man am I getting sick of denial ... this is a valid bug... #451405 [05:30] damn [05:30] i am sick and tired [05:30] i cant config email server [05:33] wizardslovak: "The Book of Postfix" is rather good btw. [05:34] i got postfix:the definitive guide [05:34] by o'reilly [05:35] What is it you're trying to do anyway? [05:37] well i did setup email server [05:37] when i am sending email from outside i get it [05:37] but when i am trying to send it from here to outside i cant [05:38] whats the best book for dovecot? [05:45] I create an LVM snapshot and then fsck it before mounting, to avoid noise in dmesg. [05:45] Is fsck -a or fsck -y more appropriate? [05:46] The former seems to be "safer" as far as e2fsck is concerned, but fsck(8) makes me worry if I ever have this script deal with XFS or whatever... [06:53] How do I force a fsck of the root filesystem after a reboot? [06:53] Before upstart (graah!) there was an option to reboot(8) [06:54] IIRC it just touches a file in the root directory [06:55] twb: The reboot option doesn't work anymore? [06:55] twb: the file was /forcefsck [06:56] It doesn't exist anymore AFAICT [06:56] Thanks. [06:56] huh [06:56] I mentioned this to #upstart a while back, so maybe it is back post-LTS [06:56] I'm still on 8.04 [06:58] tonyyarusso: /forcefsck worked [07:06] New bug: #307167 in nis (main) "NIS with LTSP" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/307167 [07:11] hello i am in need of help setting up an ftp through ssh [07:11] !ftp [07:11] FTP clients: Nautilus (Places -> Connect to server), gFTP, FileZilla (for !GNOME); Konqueror, Kasablanca, KFTPGrabber (for !KDE); FireFTP (for Firefox); ftp, lftp (for !cli) - See also !FTPd [07:14] Good morning [07:15] Deaglebear: sftp maybe? Do you need a client or how to configure it as a server? [07:15] well ok heres what im trying to do [07:15] i have a counterstrike server and 3 webservers on one machine [07:15] or will have [07:15] and i wanna do an ftp for each of those [07:16] so different people can log into each one but have different passwords and such [07:16] im halfway familiar with ubuntu but i get really confused when having to do everything through command line [07:19] Deaglebear: 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server' will install the ssh server, that comes with sftp capabilities. Then create accounts for different users... [07:19] ok [07:19] how do i specify [07:20] i mean i have that [07:20] like if i want user default to access only 1 folder [07:21] or can u point me in a direction of where to learn about how to do that [07:23] google [07:23] well ya duh ive tried doing that but i cant find any specific directions half of them require me to click on things and such [07:24] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1002948 [07:25] first hit on my search [07:25] well what did u search for [07:25] ubuntu sftp setting user directories [07:27] heh [07:27] i dont follow? [07:28] search for setting up sftp on ubuntu, then use those instructions for restricting users to a single dir [07:28] thats what i tried to do [07:28] err [07:28] nm [07:29] i thought i just went through this but its all good [07:29] ill just wait until someone that knows what they r doing from my friends list can do it [07:29] ty anyway [07:41] how do i search for a folders location [07:43] Deaglebear, find -type c (please look at man find) [07:43] sorry itts -d [07:44] ty [08:17] i get a permission denied on accessing a folder how can i get around that [08:18] sudo [08:19] how can i sudo through an ftp thing [08:19] is there a way to lower permissions [08:19] chmod [08:19] and chown [08:21] well i think chmod messed up things [08:21] cause not it says no directery found [08:21] can i delete a folder? [08:25] Deaglebear: rmdir emtydirectory, rm directorywithstuff -rf, if its not found its not there [08:25] ty [08:27] Deaglebear: chmod a+rwx dir, gives allusers all right, use u for users, g for group [08:53] that's a nice paper on 9.10: http://searchenterpriselinux.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid39_gci1371418,00.html === StrangeCharm_ is now known as StrangeCharm [09:11] to what extent will a system with an ext3 driver be able to read and write to an ext4 volume? [09:20] StrangeCharm: not at all, afaik [09:20] if you lack the ext4 driver, you won't be able to mount the fs [09:21] gamla_kossan, there's no backwards compatibility at all, like ext3/2? [09:22] well - I really don't know to be honest. [09:24] StrangeCharm: You can, kind of. At least if we're to belive wikipedia :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4#Features [09:26] andol, that makes it sound like turning on extents for the file-system will kill any backwards compatability. is that what you read too? [09:26] hey does anyone know smt like Cancerbero http://cancerbero.sourceforge.net/ <-- but whats still on active development [09:26] New bug: #383084 in autofs (main) "autofs doesn't start on boottime and "ghost" option is being ingnored on HP machines" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/383084 [09:27] ugh [09:27] rot in hell, autofs [09:27] StrangeCharm: That's the way I read that article to. [09:27] * andol actually rather like autofs :) [09:32] well - this is odd. ubuntu machine. dovecot contains this: "protocols = imaps", but lsof -i -P shows pop3-logi and imap-logi services listening on 110, 143, 993 and 995. how odd. [09:32] * RoyK installs windows vista on gamla_kossan's box [09:32] anyone knows what might be goingoon? [09:32] RoyK: hehehe [09:33] andol: I'm sure autofs is great and all, it's just.. well.. the times I've had to deal with it it's been behaving in a way I don't understand. [09:33] fscking eavesdropping swedes [09:33] :) [09:33] so I guess it's more of a classic "I don't understand it therefore I don't like it" ignorance thing :/ [09:33] vel, du er svensk... :D [09:33] * gamla_kossan makes a note to study up on autofs [09:34] RoyK: thanks ;) [09:34] anyway - the dovecot thing. isn't that really really odd? [09:34] erm - what dovecot thing? [09:34] dovecot is quite odd, yes [09:34] wait, it's gotta be the wrong conf file [09:34] perhaps PEBKAC? [09:35] tahnks [09:35] :D [09:35] more like, I'm a rhel/centos kind of guy f [09:35] -f [09:35] ouch [09:35] yeah, wrong conf file. [09:35] (of course, multiple conf files, why not. great idea I'm sure ;) [09:36] hehe. [09:47] what do you guys use to scan your network for port open/close changes [09:48] nmap [09:49] gamla_kossan, changes, as of diff of scan from last time [09:49] so that i could monitor some network blocks, if some port open up there i could get alarm [09:50] I think I've read about some scripts that can do that [09:50] so far i have found cancerbero [09:50] but last realease is from 2008 [09:50] check out the nmap site, I think I might've read about it tehre [09:51] okey [09:51] kwork: nmap -sT 192.168.0.* [09:51] etc [09:51] man nmap [09:52] RoyK: still, that doesn't do what he wants - log changes [09:52] i dont want to reinvent the wheel with loads of bash scripts ontop of nmap [09:53] surely someone else has wanted something similar [09:53] kwork: yes - like I said, check out the nmap site =) [09:53] yepyep will do it [09:53] tnx for tip [09:54] =) np [09:54] kwork: -oN nmap-scan-$(date -I).log [09:54] jpds, that would mean to diff with by hand [09:54] diff it [09:54] Yep. [09:55] hand-diffing shouldn't be a problem [09:55] i would rather like something like cancerbero where i have web interface for overview [09:55] I have even written nagios plugins diffing [09:55] what's the easiest way to check what environment variables are set on bash' commandline? [09:55] env [09:55] mralphabet, export [09:55] kwork, I found this yesterday but not looked yet... http://www.unspecific.com/nmap/diff/ [09:56] bootsandall, tnx ill look into it [10:31] New bug: #452901 in asm2 (main) "Copyright doesn't mention INRIA + France Telecom" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/452901 [10:56] New bug: #452919 in c3p0 (main) "Please enable testsuite during build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/452919 === diehaai is now known as thefish [11:21] New bug: #452949 in groovy (main) "Please run testsuite during build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/452949 [11:37] hey people. How can I change the default screen used by Ubuntu server edition for output? I have a laptop with a broken screen, so I want to modify the ubuntu server installation cd to use the external screen for output, instead of the laptop screen [11:37] I don't want to use a desktop cd for the installation because I want the ubuntu server edition installed on the laptop [12:05] SmokeyD1: simply plugging it in doesn't do the trick? [12:06] zoopster: allmost. Just figured it out. It is a powerbook with powerpc processor. It is not as straightforward there. You have to attach a usb keyboard and mouse to the machine, plugin an external monitor, powerup the powerbook and directly close the lid [12:07] if you close the lid quickly enough, the normal screen isn't used but the external one. From that point on you can use the external mouse and keyboard to start the powerbook the way I want (server install cd for instance) [12:08] SmokeyD1: rock on. [12:13] what would be the best/easiest virtualization software to install on a ubuntu-server and manage in command line? [12:14] CppIsWeird: virtualbox works for me [12:14] CppIsWeird: I don't think there's a 'best' solution, just like there are noe 'best' distros, editors, operating system, women, men etc [12:14] well, that much is a given [12:14] :P [12:15] but wbox works well [12:15] i was mostly looking for testimonials [12:15] or xen [12:15] or kvm [12:15] or anything, really [12:15] i have used virtual box on windows, you can use virtualbox fine through command line? [12:15] yes [12:15] even on windows [12:15] VBoxManage --help [12:15] :) [12:16] ok, cool. that will be where i will start out then. Thanks. :) [12:16] what's nice with vbox is that you can share clipboard [12:19] heh, theres already a new ubuntu release out. [12:19] they are fast [12:20] whee [12:20] hm. no... [12:20] 13 days to go [12:21] till? [12:21] oh, you mean 7.10 isnt out yet? [12:21] *9.10 [12:22] i just saw that they had a download for it on virtual box [12:24] how come when i ssh into my server i get the "you need updates" stuff, I've done apt-get update, and apt-get upgrade. [12:24] is there something else? [13:19] CppIsWeird: what is telling you "you need updates" [13:40] zul: i see only corosync_1.0.0-5build1 in archives [13:41] zul: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/corosync [13:42] yeah what the hell am i on [13:42] crack :) [13:43] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/corosync/ [13:44] so....? :) [13:44] zul: take a coffe :) [13:45] meh [13:47] never mind [13:48] bbl [14:30] hello to all. i have a strange url calling problem with apache on the ubuntu server. for some reason it change and crop the calling url and i dont know why this happen at the moment. in the access log i have such lines here. "[16/Oct/2009:01:12:08 +0200]" "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 2975 "http://linuxperia.ch.vu/index.php?page=about" as you can see the full url was croped to "GET /" [14:31] it should be however "GET /index.php?page=about" [14:31] why does this happen ? === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === mrchrisadams_ is now known as mrchrisadams [15:58] kirkland, ping [15:58] yesterday you pointed me at a log of install UEC, you still have that? [15:58] err. i misplaced it. can you send again [16:01] found them, never mind [16:05] SmokeyD1: yo [16:05] smoser: [16:05] smoser: hello [16:05] hi. i got what i needed. [16:05] for anyone interested, last night represented completely untouched "automated publish to ec2" of nightly uec builds. from here on out, that should "just happen". [16:06] see http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/karmic/20091016/ [16:06] the published-ec2.txt file shows what got published. [16:07] Hi room [16:07] Does /var have to be fscked first or after / /home . I'm trying to make sense of the fstab format [16:07] one question for you kirkland [16:07] when the cluster controller asked for a group of IPs [16:07] what does it do with those ? [16:08] does it run its own dhcp server ? [16:09] smoser: are there major changes in the 1016 uec images over thr 1014 ones? [16:09] no. [16:09] actually nothing. [16:09] smoser: tyvm [16:09] there is only 2 outstanding issues with them that i'm aware of. [16:10] a.) mattiaz opened bug 451881 [16:11] Launchpad bug 451881 in ec2-init "ssh public key fingerprint not available on console in UEC environement" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/451881 [16:11] b.) bug 428692 (ec2 only) [16:11] Launchpad bug 428692 in linux-ec2 "ec2 kernel needs CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y and other config changes" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/428692 [16:11] smoser: yes, exactly [16:11] so will its dhcp server interfeer with mine ? [16:11] smoser: it runs its own dhcp server, and serves those IPs out to the guests, as their "public" ip's [16:11] smoser: this is on of the rough edges, IMHO [16:12] smoser: you're not supposed to have another dhcp server on your network serving dynamic addresses [16:12] smoser: which is kind of a pain in my setup [16:12] smoser: and most home-setups [16:12] smoser: probably okay for real enterprise, though [16:12] i dont know that it is [16:13] kirkland, in almost all places you've got an existing dhcp server [16:13] installing a cloud controller does not indicate that you wish to install a new dhcp server [16:13] smoser: well, i agree with you, actually [16:14] smoser: euca says that you can have a dhcp server, but it can only serve up static addresses [16:14] smoser: but that's a PITA on my network [16:14] what does that mean? [16:14] my dhcp server can (and does) serve static IP addrs for known MACs [16:14] smoser: you can configure a dhcp server to always give out 192.168.1.21 to MAC address AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF [16:14] but i'm guessing that each new instance gets a dynamically generated MAC [16:15] smoser: in my setup, the subnet I am on does not have a dhcp server by design, so I had the dns admin reserve some public ip addresses, and I run a dhcpd3 server only on the private network [16:15] so if my dhcp server sees an un-known mac, it will hand it a new dynamic address. [16:15] kirkland: I've used MAC associated dhcp assignment in the past [16:16] my network is too flat. i'd need another router or something to do that. [16:16] kirkland: and I assumed I'd need to do it when I got a nice production setup past my small 1 front-end and 2 node system. [16:17] smoser: i really like the linksys 310n [16:17] smoser: I have the luxury of access to a university machine room and extra isolated switches laying around [16:17] smoser: however, only v1 (not v2) is compatible with ddwrt [16:17] smoser: you can get it from bestbuy, office depot, etc. [16:18] smoser: it's gigabit [16:18] hmm - I wonder if I used a router with a built-in dhcp server that might alleviate my need to run a dhcp server on my front end ... [16:18] gar.. [16:19] so i think i need to throw a little router in there and put my CC and node on a private network [16:19] is that what you all would suggest ? [16:20] smoser: I have 6 network interfaces in my CC, only using 2. One goes to the outside world, one to my private network with my nodes. [16:21] right. so the CC is providing the routing for stuff behind it. [16:21] smoser: correct [16:21] smoser: my CC is set up to be a router [16:21] yeah. [16:21] smoser: in my eucalyptus.conf I have 5 private IPs listed [16:22] heylo [16:22] smoser: when I start an instance, the CC allocates one of them to the instance as well as a private IP [16:22] "one of them" . you mean a public ip [16:23] smoser: yes [16:23] you have 5 public ips listed in eucalyptus.conf [16:23] smoser: yes [16:23] ok. (above you said private) [16:23] smoser: I'm sorry . I did. [16:23] smoser: brain flatulence [16:23] yeah [16:23] thats fine. [16:23] i'll allow it as long as you allow it for me sometimess [16:23] smoser: deal :) [16:26] is there a range of dynamic macs ? [16:26] maybe that i could tell the dhcp server to ignore === vxnick is now known as vxnick-AFK [16:34] where do I get the zlib php extention? [16:38] sorry, having lovely internet connectivity problems [16:41] aubre, do you know if there is a range of MACs that eucalyptus serves out ? [16:42] xen actually owns a range that it serves from [16:42] but i dont know if there is such a one for kvm [16:42] http://open.eucalyptus.com/wiki/EucalyptusNetworking_v1.5 just says "random" [16:44] New bug: #453129 in eucalyptus (main) "copyright file is incorrect, Eucalyptus is now licensed GPLv3" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/453129 === bc_ is now known as bc [16:51] well, if i'm reading vnetwork.c:instId2mac i think that MAC addr will start with "d0:0d" [16:52] kirkland, or aubre or anyone, can you confirm that your instance id mac's have that ? [16:52] smoser: that's funny [16:52] smoser: "dude" [16:56] smoser: d0:0d:43:20:07:c5 [16:57] kirkland, so, then if i'm also reading dnsmasq doc correctly [16:57] dhcp-host=d0:0d*,ignore [16:57] smoser: Good morning. Is the naming convention change for uec images final. Up to beta we had ubuntu-uec-karmic-$ARCH, daily image are karmic-uec-$ARCH. I need to know what to specify for documentation purposes [16:57] should allow you to have dnsmasq running and ignoring eucalyptus [16:58] nijaba, well, yes and no [16:58] :) [16:58] :P [16:59] yes its final, but it will change for released images. [16:59] I've created a developer group and added several developer users to that group. My user account's home has a "tools" folder that contains a couple of command line applications that I want other developers to be able to use. Where should I move these applications so that current and new users can use them? I'm guessing there is a proper location for such things. [16:59] ok, so dailies are karmic-* and releases are ubuntu-* ? [16:59] i think that as released images (cds) are usually named ubuntu-X.MN- [16:59] right [16:59] cool, thanks [17:00] smoser: mine also starts with that: d0:0d:38:8A:06:66 [17:01] good. then i can read. [17:11] smoser: sorry was afk, I do not know how eucalyptus assigns MACs, I assume they pick some similar to the way VMware does with NAT [17:12] its in that .c file i listed above [17:12] it prefixed with d0:0d , then based on the instance id [17:13] smoser: lol at d00d, but then there is walrus/bukkits, from I can has cheezburger [17:14] doesn't some organization assign the MAC address prefixes to various hardware manufacturers? [17:15] yeah. and they almost certainly dont'; have that [17:15] xen source has a range that are to be officially used for xen guests [17:15] i dont know if for some reason those are not allocated, but if the are not otherwise protected, a collision could occur (the d0:0d) [17:16] one thing that is slightly annoying is that when you reuse these IPs ssh gets all snotty about the keys not matching [17:16] smoser: are you tracking down bug 451881? [17:16] Launchpad bug 451881 in ec2-init "ssh public key fingerprint not available on console in UEC environement" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/451881 [17:16] so I have to edit my .ssh/known_hosts file , or turn off strict checking [17:17] mathiaz, well somewhat. [17:17] installing my cloud so that i can get there. [17:17] smoser: ok - do you have enough hardware? [17:17] smoser: ie two machines? [17:17] interesting to see that because this morning when I rebooted after patching when I tried to ssh into my instances I got connection refused - however I could ping the ip [17:17] yeah. [17:21] hmmm, euca-authorize crashes when I try to authorize port 22. "Warning: failed to parse error message from AWS: :2:42: not well-formed (invalid token)" [17:22] is this known? [17:23] yet it is since yesterday [17:23] bug 452556 [17:23] Launchpad bug 452556 in eucalyptus "euca-authorize default failing" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/452556 [17:27] kirkland, anyone know... "euca-describe-availability-zones verbose" is hanging [17:27] following http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServerEConfig [17:27] ah. died with no route to host. [17:28] cause my server chnaged ips since install. [17:28] smoser: yeah, euca2ools are based on boto. if boto can't connect it will retry 5 times by default. Takes a while to time out. [17:29] so if i changed my IP of the server, any idea what i need to redo ? [17:29] i can hand edit eucarc, but figure thats likely stored elsewhere [17:29] nijaba: yes - try again [17:30] nijaba: it should work after *some* time [17:30] mathiaz: hmmm [17:30] mathiaz: that's what I have read in the bug, but is sucks [17:30] mathiaz: would a network trace help here? [17:31] nijaba: are you running the euca-* commands on the CC or from another host? [17:31] smoser:/etc/eucalyptus/eucalyptus.conf ? I know the nodes IP addresses are in there. [17:32] mathiaz: from another host [17:32] smoser: you could just edit eucarc to deal with the euca-* commands [17:32] mathiaz: and right now, no more error, just hanging [17:32]