[00:00] <m0r0n> lstarnes: nossralsuva:  Thanks
[00:00] <greensimian> Hey gang
[00:00] <greensimian> Got a ?
[00:00] <nossralsuva> m0r0n: no problem
[00:00] <greensimian> In windows I always have to enable disk caching
[00:00] <greensimian> Do I have to do the same in Linux?
[00:00] <cody> nossralsuva: Currently, sudo apt-get install samba is running, i will run sudo apt-get install system-samba-config as soon as it finishes
[00:00] <greensimian> Is there a place to fiddle with this kind of thing in Ubuntu?
[00:01] <ZykoticK9> greensimian, no - the linux kernel looks after that for you.  swap partitions and swap in general should NOT be used unless necessary!  linux can do a lot in memory :)
[00:01] <nossralsuva> cody: be sure to run $sudo testparm     to make sure you setup your parameters correctly
[00:02] <cody> okay, so after i install the samba, and set it up, run sudo testparm?
[00:02] <nossralsuva> cody: sudo apt-get install system-config-samba   = correction
[00:02] <greensimian> ZykoticK9: People keep teling me that but my system runs much better with a 10gb Swap Part as opposed to 4gb of RAM
[00:02] <nossralsuva> cody: exactly, that will make sure that you have configured your parameters correctly
[00:02] <cody> nossralsuva: E: Couldn't find package system-samba-config
[00:02] <cody> and okaty
[00:02] <cody> okay*
[00:02] <ZykoticK9> greensimian, although cache is sorta different, but not disk cache so much - it's also nice not to have to defrag - that took me some getting use too...
[00:03] <ae86-drifter> cody: ill brb have to go sorry
[00:03] <invitingdopeman> does anybody know how to register my nickname i cant figure this shit out
[00:03] <cody> ae86-drifter: Okay, thatsfine
[00:03] <Mehedi> how can i activate evolution mail for gmail?
[00:03] <mnaines> ZykoticK9: It took me some getting used to Linux not throwing everything into swap even though I have 4GB of RAM
[00:03] <gasmask> ZykoticK9: still looking... thanks for patience
[00:03] <greensimian> ZykoticK9: Yeah, I was looking for some defrag info too....it's automagical
[00:03] <nossralsuva> cody: if you see the output of "OK" then you have setup your samba configuration correctly, if not it will tell you which lines in your config files that you've made a mistake on
[00:03] <Solar_Flare> @Mehedi: It's described on google.
[00:03] <cody> nossralsuva: Ill use synaptic
[00:03] <dumont> i accidentally set chmod 7676 by mistake and now the directory displayes drwsrwsrw- ,  how can i set the mode to 776? and get rid of the "s" thats there?
[00:03] <Solar_Flare> Just google "Evolutionmail gmail"
[00:03] <nossralsuva> cody: yes you can use synaptic, actually that would be much easier
[00:04] <afeijo> I installed a ubuntu server into vmware. Everytime I power if up, I have to run sudo dhclient to make it get ip to work with my net. How to automatize it?
[00:04] <cody> libsamba-hostconfig0 is the package?
[00:04] <ZykoticK9> afeijo, ask the same question in #ubuntu-server
[00:04] <afeijo> thanks
[00:04] <nossralsuva> dumount: set your chmod 0776 instead
[00:04] <invitingdopeman> how can i see my routers info
[00:04] <cody> nossralsuva: It is actually system-config-samba ;)
[00:05] <dumont>  chmod 0776 *
[00:05] <nossralsuva> dumont: you've activated a 'sticky bit'
[00:05] <dumont> drwsrwsrw-
[00:05] <dumont> :S
[00:05] <dumont> whats a sticky bit and how do i deactivate it?
[00:05] <nossralsuva> cody: yes, thank you, i had stated that correction later a few lines up
[00:06] <cody> nossralsuva: Oh, i did not see that lol
[00:06] <nossralsuva> cody: when i realized that I made the typo
[00:06] <whatis6x9> wow - printing is SO much better than 2 yrs ago :P
[00:06] <cheezey> anyway to quickly make a window fill half the screen (or anything similar)?
[00:06] <nossralsuva> cody: lols
[00:06] <PhantomLink> How do you search an ntfs drive again?
[00:06] <gasmask> ZykoticK9: ok, it looks like all the settings are being read from the config file near the top of the "terminator -d" output. However, shortly after that there is a section with "Returning 'keybindings':" and lists the keybinding set in the config as set to the default. hmmm
[00:06] <PhantomLink> It's grep | something right?
[00:07] <trism> PhantomLink: well you could do a grep -nHR "text you want to search for" /path_to_drive
[00:07] <nossralsuva> cheezey: you can go to >system>preferences>Windows and what I do is the 'roll up' feature after I have made the window (set manually) to half the screen size (vertically or horizontally)
[00:07] <ZykoticK9> gasmask, beyond me man...  good luck!
[00:07] <dumont> whats a sticky bit and how do i deactivate it? setting chmod 0776 * did not change anything, the directories are still drwsrwsrw-
[00:07] <cody> nossralsuva: The vista computer reports: Access denied, unable to connect
[00:07] <trism> PhantomLink: might take a while though
[00:08] <gasmask> ZykoticK9: ok, thanks for you help though. best of luck :)
[00:08] <mnaines> ZykoticK9: Did you get my IM?
[00:08] <Jacala> hi, I'm running ubuntu through a usb stick on a laptop & it's working great, inly thing is that it seems to lose any installs or saves on the desktop when I restart.  Any way to save things when running it this way?
[00:08] <jordan__> can someone help me with lib gtk????
[00:08] <nossralsuva> cheezey: or you can just size your window to half the screen's size and then use the maximize button to take it full or to the present size state
[00:08] <kahashi> hello, i need help with my vga. basically all i want is to be able to watch my anime on the tv screen using linux
[00:09] <cody> nossralsuva: The vista computer reports: "Access denied, unable to connect
[00:09] <nossralsuva> cody" here is an e.g., for every new line you will see a *
[00:09] <cody> nossralsuva: Okay
[00:09] <ZykoticK9> mnaines, sorry man I don't open ANY IMs - only in the channel for me...
[00:09] <solid_liq> !ping
[00:09] <mnaines> ZykoticK9: Shame...The stuff I was going to talk to you about is ot for this room
[00:10] <ZykoticK9> mnaines, message me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:10] <BoxMagnet> Can anyone tell me why i must use sudo su to echo -n 95 > /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/DD03/brightness
[00:10] <BoxMagnet> sudo does not work nor, sudo -s
[00:10] <jordan__> Ive already installed libgtk but whenever I try to install an application it says I need it.... but its already installed... when I tried to reinstall it it says that its already installed
[00:10] <LjL> BoxMagnet: because > gets processed by the shell, which doesn't have any root permissions.
[00:10] <nossralsuva> cody: [cody] * comment = cody's linux share * path = /home/cody * valid users = cody * admin users = cody * writable = yes * read only = no * guest ok = no
[00:10] <BoxMagnet> LjL, can you instruct?
[00:10] <ZykoticK9> BoxMagnet, your sending a setting to proc - basically direct HW access!  this is root's domain.
[00:11] <LjL> BoxMagnet: i what?
[00:11] <jordan__> can someone please help me?????
[00:11] <kahashi> i am having trouble giving video signals to my tv. i have the vga cables. but cant get any signals to the tv
[00:11] <LjL> BoxMagnet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Downsides of using sudo
[00:11] <nossralsuva> cody: the spacing is very important, the syntax is like this for example           intention = output
[00:12] <saxofoner> So... Grub 2 (1.97 beta3) has lost it... If I try to boot linux it says I must load the kernel, and if I try to boot windows, it says out of memory. i can't find any results for the errors on google, which shocked me. so I tried reinstalling from the disk and it didn't work. If I install grub (legacy) from an old 8.04 disk, will it see karmic?
[00:12] <ZykoticK9> BoxMagnet, what are you trying to do!?!?  strange to be sending "-n 95" to a video card?!?!
[00:12] <dumont> whats a sticky bit and how do i deactivate it? setting chmod 0776 * did not change anything, the directories are still drwsrwsrw-
[00:12] <BoxMagnet> ZykoticK9, lol, its screen brightness
[00:12] <LjL> BoxMagnet: you can use, instead, either « sudo sh -c "command > /proc/whatever" »,  or you can use « sudo command | tee /proc/whatever » to circumvent that
[00:12] <cody> nossralsuva: In the samba system config, do i need to add a share dedicated to MFC210C Printer? one is for /var/lib/samba/printers
[00:12] <cody> and ok
[00:12] <LjL> ZykoticK9: typing "echo -n 95" doesn't send "-n 95". the "-n" is an option that tells "echo" to not append a newline.
[00:12] <LjL> it sends "95".
[00:13] <ZykoticK9> BoxMagnet, but "-n 95" are you SURE that's the command!
[00:13] <BoxMagnet> ZykoticK9, it works
[00:13] <BoxMagnet> lol!
[00:13] <nossralsuva> cody: if you have a printer on the system it will automatically share the printers to the network
[00:13] <bastidrazor> BoxMagnet: it would be echo command | sudo tee /proc/wherever
[00:14] <cody> nossralsuva: Okay, i am still there. I have it set to allow access to anybody (not just cody and noone)
[00:14] <ZykoticK9> LjL, hummm thanks man.  that almost seems like BoxMagnet  might be clearing a setting then???
[00:14] <kahashi> pardon me, who here is familiar with vga outputs?
[00:14] <BoxMagnet> echo -n 95 | sudo /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/DD03/brightness
[00:14] <BoxMagnet> ?
[00:14] <LjL> ZykoticK9: no, he's sending "95" to his brightness. makes perfect sense to me
[00:14] <LjL> the range might be 0 to 255, or 0 to 100, i don't know
[00:14] <PhantomLink> how do i use grep to search for all files of a particular type on an ntfs drive?
[00:14] <bastidrazor> BoxMagnet: add tee after sudo
[00:15] <LjL> BoxMagnet: sudo tee
[00:15] <BoxMagnet> k
[00:15] <dumont> whats a sticky bit and how do i deactivate it? setting chmod 0776 * did not change anything, the directories are still drwsrwsrw-
[00:15] <BoxMagnet> thanks everyone
[00:15] <LjL> PhantomLink: what do you mean by "type"? format?
[00:15] <nossralsuva> cody: if you want to allow all, the example that i gave you before: just change   guest ok = yes   and it will automatically allow any computer to connect to it as a guest
[00:15] <PhantomLink> yeah
[00:15] <PhantomLink> like all files of type pdf
[00:15] <nossralsuva> cody: the guest account in linux is called "nobody"
[00:16] <LjL> PhantomLink: that's not really grep's realm
[00:16] <dumont> help, i can't remove the sticky bit!
[00:16] <cody> nossralsuva: Okay, but on vista, do i have to do anything to connect to it? I have chosen the printer, but it says "access denied, unable to connect"
[00:16] <LjL> PhantomLink: besides, can't you use the extension (e.g. "*.pdf")? that'd be *much* faster than actually determining the file's type.
[00:17] <nossralsuva> on the vista in the address bar   \\computerIP\\usersharefolder     the user share folder is the one on the linux box
[00:17] <m0r0n> Anyone have Dr. Java installed?
[00:17] <whoDat> i lost my onboard sound after installing a pcHDTV card... i think they both use the cx88 driver or something along those lines? can anyone help me track this down?
[00:17] <whoDat> it shows that it's loaded : snd_pcm                83076  3 snd_hda_intel,cx88_alsa,snd_pcm_oss
[00:18] <rabby_> after dist upgrade i worry about Quanta's print preview which opens gimp instead of a lightweight gtk-print or kprinter dialog :-(
[00:18] <rabby_> does anyone have an idea how to fix this?
[00:18] <subone> I'm trying to get samba working on my box but I can't even ping my box from a windows machine. it says Destination host unreachable. Any help?
[00:18] <dumont> help, i can't remove the sticky bit! i set it accidentally, but now when i do "chmod 0776 file" it does not seem to remove!
[00:19] <cody> nossralsuva: Okay, where do i find the share folder?
[00:19] <corey> anyone know what the best version of linux us for a noob?
[00:19] <m0r0n> corey: Mint
[00:19] <corey> can u send me a link so i can mirror it?
[00:19] <RainyLithuanian> whr is xorg conf?
[00:19] <LjL> dumont: try chmod -t instead, and try with sudo
[00:19] <nossralsuva> cody: run sudo smbpasswd -a username    this adds a password to the username that you are sharing
[00:19] <dumont> i'm logged in as root
[00:19] <bastidrazor> RainyLithuanian: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:19] <m0r0n> corey:  http://www.linuxmint.com/
[00:19] <RainyLithuanian> thanks
[00:20] <BoxMagnet> LjL, anyway I can get sudo to not ask a password so I can make that in to a script?
[00:20] <dumont> whats -t operand?
[00:20] <LjL> corey: have you tried asking in #ubuntu-offtopic ? this channel is about *Ubuntu* support
[00:20] <corey> thanks
[00:20] <nossralsuva> dumont: use sudo instead to do that, no need to be running as root
[00:20] <cody> nossralsuva: What if i already have a pass on my username (my username is cody)
[00:20] <nossralsuva> cody:   smbpasswd -a cody
[00:20] <LjL> m0r0n: that seems like a gratuitous suggestion, i could give any other. (and Mint isn't supported here, for the record)
[00:21] <ZykoticK9> dumont, try "sudo chmod a-s FILENAMES" :)
[00:21] <nossralsuva> cody: it will ask you to make a new password, this password is for the share folder that you made in the samba config file
[00:21] <LjL> BoxMagnet: that would be quite dangerous. are you intending to do that every time you start your computer?
[00:21] <cody> nossralsuva: Added it
[00:21] <m0r0n> Anyone know a similar Dr. Java program that is easy to code in for a beginner programmer (School). I tried Eclipse and that didn't work out too well.
[00:21] <BoxMagnet> LjL, um, no ... on command for several different settings.
[00:21] <LjL> ZykoticK9: uhm, sticky bit is "t", "s" is for setuid afair
[00:22] <LjL> BoxMagnet: not making it ask for a password is going to be tricky.
[00:22] <dumont> ok a-s wokred, thank YOU!!!!
[00:22] <BoxMagnet> LjL, err, im sorry. the real reason this is all going on is because I have absolutelty no idea how to make my laptop function keys work
[00:22] <m0r0n> LjL: Link him something then, I haven't used it personally, but I hear it's easy to use. I'm still fairly new to the Linux world
[00:22] <LjL> BoxMagnet: which laptop is that? there are some packages for that in the repos
[00:22] <BoxMagnet> LjL, Hp Pavillion dv6000
[00:23] <LjL> m0r0n: no, i won't "link him something". that's not what this channel is for, and it would also be meaningless.
[00:23] <BoxMagnet> i have made my volume keys etc work..
[00:23] <LjL> !best | m0r0n
[00:23] <RainyLithuanian> I cannot believe I being such and idiot solved pivoting problem editing xorg.conf in first attempt:D
[00:23] <corey> i hjate the robot...
[00:24] <RainyLithuanian> there is a bug with eee 1000 which messes up the resolution boundaries in xorg and thus spawns a lot of bugs with external monitors:(
[00:24] <nossralsuva> cody: restart the samba server by typing 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart  and then try to input the \\computerip\sharefolder into the vista's address bar
[00:24] <LjL> BoxMagnet: uhm no i can't find anything (doesn't mean there isn't, just isn't exceptionally easy to find)
[00:24] <cody> nossralsuva: Okay, i will run that
[00:25] <corey> whats the main difference between ubuntu kubuntu and xubuntu
[00:25] <Kurogane> hello, any1 can help me to install java? here he error http://pastebin.com/m3afbae34
[00:25] <vox> corey: kubuntu uses kde
[00:26] <BoxMagnet> LjL, hmm ok. bright up is fn+f8 down is f7 so. how would I want to go about making that + fn work?
[00:26] <corey> ya i nebver could figure out hoew to use that 3-d crap in kubuntu
[00:26] <BoxMagnet> corey, works fine for me
[00:26] <cody> nossralsuva: I restarted it, and typed "\\(my IP) and got the error: \\(my ip) is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource... The account is not authorized to log in from this server"
[00:26] <corey> idk how to make it work
[00:27] <BoxMagnet> got compiz installed?
[00:27] <corey> no
[00:27] <BoxMagnet> that could be your problem
[00:27] <corey> oh
[00:27] <corey> after i instal;l it
[00:27] <corey> how do i use it?
[00:27] <nossralsuva> corey: kubuntu= ubuntu w/ default KDE interface/windowind   xubuntu= ubuntu w/ xfce interface
[00:27] <vox> BoxMagnet: what does compiz have to do with samba?
[00:27] <ae86-drifter> cody: how did you go?
[00:27] <BoxMagnet> vox, he is talking about 3d?
[00:27] <LjL> BoxMagnet, i don't know, its tricky :|
[00:28] <BoxMagnet> you are thinking of the other one
[00:28] <cody> ae86-drifter: Still having trouble. I got vista to see it, but it gives me the error: "Access denied, unable to connect"
[00:29] <BoxMagnet> cody, check the permissions?
[00:29] <subone> I can ping my Windows machine from Ubuntu, but I can't ping my Ubuntu machine from Windows. Can anyone help?
[00:29] <corey> i wanan go back to windows... at least there i know how to use it!
[00:29] <cody> BoxMagnet: The permissions are:Allow Access to everyone.
[00:29] <pradeep> corey u shud try it out
[00:30] <corey> try what out
[00:30] <corey> ?
[00:30] <pradeep> man it makes a better
[00:30] <BoxMagnet> cody, what about the folder permissions in ubuntu..
[00:30] <cody> Let me check
[00:30] <cody> BoxMagnet: Where do i find the folder?
[00:30] <ae86-drifter> cody: goto System>administration>Printing right click on the printer, properties, and check the user access settings, also goto System>administration>Samba Config, and check the permissions there, then restart the samba server
[00:31] <BoxMagnet> cody, i did not know you were talking about a printer sorry...
[00:32] <ae86-drifter> do you have the samba config GUI?
[00:32] <cody> ae86-drifter: System>Administration>Printing is: Access Control - Allow printing for everyone. System>Administration>Samba is: Allow access to everybody. Restarting it now
[00:32] <nossralsuva> cody: [cody]    browsable = yes   read only = no  path = /home/cody     guest ok = yes
[00:33] <Chun1> Hi - using jaunty, anyone know how I can stop network-manager asking for my keyring password every time I boot?
[00:33] <cody> nossralsuva: Command again?
[00:34] <nossralsuva> cody: that was a line that you could put in your samba configuration file
[00:34] <cody> nossralsuva: I dont know where to locate the conf file
[00:34] <cody> lol
[00:34] <nossralsuva> cody: /etc/samba/smb.conf
[00:35] <nossralsuva> cody: that file controls the entire operation of samba
[00:35] <pradeep> chun1 /home/chun1/.gnome2/keyrings
[00:35] <cody> nossralsuva: Okay, where do i put in the line?
[00:35] <nossralsuva> cody: at the very last line of the entire file
[00:36] <Loafers> How do I run a program executed through shell in the background?
[00:36] <cody> nossralsuva: Okay, all on one line?
[00:36] <LjL> Loafers: add & after its command line
[00:36] <bastidrazor> Loafers: you could use programname & disown
[00:36] <Loafers> LjL, It's already running.
[00:36] <Chun1> pradeep: got a login.keyring
[00:36] <pradeep> yea
[00:37] <nossralsuva> cody: no each section is a line, each new share ( representing a share folder) starts off with [sharename]
[00:37] <Loafers> LjL, Theres no way to get prompt when program is already running?
[00:37] <m0r0n> Is there an applet to show free disk space?
[00:37] <Jester> Does anyone know how to change the terminal bell from the internal speaker (pcspkr) to something else, like a sound file ?
[00:37] <LjL> Loafers: yes.
[00:37] <LjL> Loafers: hit ctrl+z
[00:37] <nossralsuva> cody: then every line will have         input = output      an example is             guest ok = yes
[00:38] <LjL> Loafers: then the program will "freeze", and you'll get a prompt again. then you can type "bg <number>" to get it running again, but this time in the background.
[00:38] <ZykoticK9> starcannon, did you fix your Savage issue?  Took me a while to download - but it's 64bit versions installed perfectly for me once i chmod +x the file.
[00:38] <Loafers> LjL, ah awesome :)
[00:38] <cody> nossralsuva: so like this: http://pastebin.ca/1623009
[00:38] <gasmask>  Loafers: you can also use the "jobs" and the "fg" and "bg" commands
[00:39] <Billiard> is there something like rev that works for binary input
[00:39] <gasmask> Loafers: Jobs will show you what is running in the shell.
[00:39] <Loafers> gasmask, awesome thanks!
[00:39] <nossralsuva> cody: yes, exactly
[00:39] <cody> nossralsuva: Restarted its server now
[00:40] <cody> nossralsuva: http://pastebin.ca/1623012 good testparm?
[00:40] <nossralsuva> cody: just follow that file's pattern from the link and replace their share's with yours
[00:41] <gasmask> Does anyone know if this chat is logged?
[00:41] <genii> !irclogs
[00:41] <ae86-drifter> u should be able to use the gui to edit the samba config
[00:41] <genii> The ubottu knows all
[00:41] <cody> the link i sent you? (first link) nossralsuva
[00:41] <nossralsuva> cody: I do concur with ae86-drifter for a first timer
[00:42] <stylezed> hello... i dual boot vista and ubuntu.. i want to move the ubuntu partition... but i want to move it to the LEFT - to see what i mean hit this URL: http://i35.tinypic.com/2zny91c.jpg - anyone got any ideas? please?
[00:42] <nossralsuva> cody: the link with the ca. paste bin that you just posted
[00:42] <cody> nossralsuva: What do you mean concur with ae86-drifter? And okay, how do i edit it this time?
[00:43] <ae86-drifter> yeah, even though i work for a printer company doing linux tech suppiort?
[00:43] <ae86-drifter> which is brother
[00:43] <ae86-drifter> lol
[00:43] <subone> nvm it works :p
[00:43] <Billiard> stylezed: you must resize the extended partition
[00:43] <bastidrazor> stylezed: moving partitions around can be a dangerous risk.. use a LiveCD with gparted or a gparted CD
[00:43] <nossralsuva> cody: he was telling you to use the system-config-samba instead to edit the samba file without doing it the hard technical way
[00:43] <ae86-drifter> pwned
[00:44] <violet523> anyone have any tips for getting opengl to work on a nvidia geforce 5200?
[00:44] <ae86-drifter> its much easier to use GUIs for most people
[00:44] <stylezed> im in the liveCd right now.. and im trying to resize the extended partition.. but it wont let me resize it LEFT..
[00:44] <cody> nossralsuva: I tried doing graphical but it wasnt workin :(
[00:44] <ae86-drifter> especially most people in this room
[00:44] <Billiard> stylezed: can you move it
[00:44] <stylezed> its odd... i want to move the beginning of the extended partition LEFT into the unused space
[00:44] <stylezed> no it wont let me move it
[00:45] <nossralsuva> cody: so is it working now?
[00:45] <stylezed> its a pain in the ass.
[00:45] <Billiard> stylezed: is it mounted right now?
[00:45] <cody> nossralsuva: No
[00:45] <cody> :(
[00:45] <stylezed> no its not mounted
[00:45] <stylezed> im running from the live cd at the moment... i ran gparted as su
[00:45] <stylezed> still wouldnt let me move it left into the unused space
[00:46] <stylezed> aah shit
[00:46] <stylezed> im an idiot
[00:46] <Billiard> stylezed: it looks like it could be mounted, its showing a mount point
[00:46] <stylezed> i was selecting the logical partition not the extended
[00:46] <stylezed> duh
[00:47] <stylezed> thanks Billiard - sometimes all it takes is for someone else to look to make your brain work
[00:47] <Billiard> lol
[00:47] <stylezed> i feel like an idiot now... cuz im not a newbie..
[00:47] <stylezed> thanks tho.
[00:48] <cody> ae86-drifter and nossralsuva: I am using an online tutorial :p
[00:48] <stylezed> i'm probably going to have to re-setup grub after this aren't I?
[00:49] <ae86-drifter> open the samba gui, click preferences and goto user settings and just add the name of the windows vista user
[00:49] <stylezed> *sigh* wish i'd set up the partitions correctly in the first place.. i was rushing.. it's a new laptop
[00:51] <a_> i'm trying to change the ownership of an external drive. any takers?
[00:52] <ae86-drifter> chown <path>
[00:52] <mnaines> a_: sudo chown username:usergroup /dev/harddrivedesignation
[00:53] <ZykoticK9> mnaines, you should change the filesystem permission NOT the devices' permission!  like "sudo chmod user:group /mount/disk"
[00:53] <ZykoticK9> a_, see above!
[00:54] <tonyyarusso> I don't even think you *can* change device permissions after they exist.
[00:54] <boscop> why does my internet connection get disconnected every few minutes?
[00:54] <stylezed> i dont think you can change a device permission
[00:54] <boscop> please answer quick :/
[00:54] <stylezed> what tonyyarusso said
[00:54] <stylezed> heh
[00:54] <mnaines> Yes, you can, tonyyarusso...You can change the permissions of an entire drive
[00:54] <ae86-drifter> boscop: i dont know, you need to provide more detail
[00:55] <stylezed> mnaines: learn something new every day.
[00:55] <boscop> ae86-drifter: in the system monitor I then see that no traffic happens
[00:55] <mnaines> tonyyarusso: For example, if you have one internal drive and one external drive and want to change permissions for the external drive, you type sudo chown username:usergroup /dev/sdb
[00:55] <boscop> ae86-drifter: and I try to reconnect with sudo pon dsl-provider
[00:55] <tonyyarusso> mnaines: I know the command, I just don't know if it actually works.
[00:55] <ae86-drifter> boscop: you need to explain what type of connection you have
[00:56] <boscop> but it doesn't work often
[00:56] <violet523> been trying to get opengl working with my nvidia geforce fx 5200 and although /var/log/Xorg.0.log is showing no problems, gdm seems to lock up at a blank screen
[00:56] <boscop> ae86-drifter: dsl
[00:56] <Doc_Lappy> can anybody tell me how to fix grub with live cd?
[00:56] <mnaines> tonyyarusso: The /dev/sdb path does work, but it changes for the entire drive, not just the file system
[00:56] <ae86-drifter> boscop: wired or wireless
[00:56] <boscop> ae86-drifter: wired
[00:56] <nossralsuva> cody: okay
[00:56] <keith1> has anyone had any luck installing Jahshaka on their system?
[00:56] <ZykoticK9> mnaines, /dev/sdb is a DRIVE not even a partition - ontop of partition are the filesystem that these changes reside on
[00:56] <Assjj> hi guys i keep getting 403 forbidden when i access cgi-bin/ http://pastie.org/656950 please help
[00:57] <tonyyarusso> mnaines: huh, maybe it doesn't work for some other device type - I know I tried it on something once unsuccessfully.
[00:57] <mnaines> ZykoticK9: Yes, but if you want to change permissions for the entire drive (in cases where the drive has more than one file system and you want all of them to have the same permissions), you use the drive path not the mount path
[00:58] <a_> Zykotick9: I already tried that. Terminal went through the whole list of files and "changed" the owner, but I still get "you are not the owner"
[00:58] <mnaines> ZykoticK9: Did you unmount the drive first?
[00:59] <stylezed> Doc_Lappy: check your messages
[00:59] <mnaines> oops
[00:59] <ZykoticK9> a_, are you "ls -l" in the directory
[00:59] <mnaines> a_: Did you unmount the drive first?
[00:59] <a_> no
[00:59] <a_> how do I unmount from terminal?
[00:59] <mnaines> a_: The drive has to be mounted or else it won't work
[01:00] <ZykoticK9> a_, "sudo umount /mount/point"
[01:00] <Scunizi> mnaines: a_ ... perhaps the syntax of the chown command wasn't correct.. sudo chown <username:username> /path/to/directory
[01:00] <DaZ> username:group :f
[01:01] <ZykoticK9> a_, did you use the chmod -R switch for recursive?
[01:01] <violet523> -does nayone have any place maybe i could look, from what i understand,g aming wise, nvidia has some somewhat decent upport fir 3d?
[01:01] <mnaines> Scunizi: If he's trying to change ownership of the drive itself, he needs the drive path, which he can get from ls -l
[01:01] <mnaines> violet523: I use an nVidia card and it supports 3D just fine through OpenGL
[01:01] <Scunizi> mnaines: sure.. no doubt.. I just came in so I'm not aware in what context and what he's actually changing..
[01:02] <Scunizi> violet523: nvidia all the way.. ati is hit and miss ..
[01:02] <ZykoticK9> a_, you need that drive mounted to make any changes to the filesystem!
[01:02] <violet523> mnaines: im using an geforce 5200 and haven't been able to get X to work using the nvidia drivers versus the nv drivers
[01:03] <Purpley> how do i make a symlink between libosgGA.so.61 and libsgGA.so ?
[01:03] <mnaines> violet523: 5200?!  That's an old card.  Time for an upgrade, dude
[01:03] <ae86-drifter> and i thought my 8600 was old
[01:03] <Billiard> violet523: i had no problems with a 5200
[01:04] <Purpley> hah i have a 9800 GTX+
[01:04] <a_> Zykotick9: I get this error when trying to mount. "mount: can't find /media/disc 3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[01:04] <mnaines> I got the 8800GTS Superclocked
[01:04] <Purpley> meh mines overclocked
[01:04] <Purpley> i forget the specs
[01:04] <ZykoticK9> a_ it's cause of the spaces in the disc name!  you need to put " around the whole /media... part!
[01:05] <Purpley> cmon guys
[01:05] <Purpley> how do i make a symlink between libosgGA.so.61 and libsgGA.so ?
[01:05] <Scunizi> mnaines: that's an older card .. with the newer releases of ubuntu you might need to install the legacy driver.  It's in Synaptic package manager.. however if you've just installed do a full update and it might pull it in automatically.. open a terminal and type or cut and paste..  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ...
[01:05] <violet523> mnaines: its one of the few cards tihs particular box will run. the main gaming computer has an 8500, but we were looking to have two boxes with wow and linux not just one with doze and one with linux
[01:05] <ae86-drifter> i have a geforce 575,000,000
[01:05] <jerknextdoor> the dropbox icon in my notification area has disappeared twice.  the first time i had to reinstall dropbox.  i'm looking for a more permanent solution.
[01:05] <ae86-drifter> mega clocked
[01:05] <Scunizi> sorry mnaines that was ment for violet523 .. look up violet523
[01:05] <Purpley> please guys help
[01:05] <Billiard> Purpley: same directory?
[01:05] <Purpley> Uhhhhh
[01:05] <Purpley> Hmm
[01:05] <a_> I still get the same error
[01:05] <ZykoticK9> a_, you tab completion "sudo unmount /med<TABKEY>/d<TABYKEY>"
[01:05] <Purpley> hold on ill find the directory
[01:05] <Jihui_Choi> I have xp and ubuntu on my laptop. But I can't enter to xp. I think I installed mbr on my usb memorystick and atfer that install grub on my disk.
[01:06] <Purpley> Wait nvm yes
[01:06] <ZykoticK9> a_, s/unmount/umount !!!!
[01:06] <Purpley> The program needs a app with .so.61 but that dosent exist so yeah :\
[01:06] <Jihui_Choi> how can I fix the grub without live cd?
[01:06] <Scunizi> Jihui_Choi: grub should have picked up the windows install and listed it in the menu.. you might need to reinstall grub to catch it.
[01:06] <Scunizi> !grub | Jihui_Choi
[01:07] <Billiard> ln -s file file.so.61
[01:07] <violet523> Scunizi: isn't a dist upgrade  little drastic? should i just try the legacy drivers first?
[01:07] <Billiard> violet523: i think u do need to use legacy for 5200
[01:07] <Purpley> how do i make a symlink between libosgGA.so.61 and libsgGA.so ? same directory
[01:08] <Billiard> Purpley: ln -s file file.so.61
[01:08] <violet523> alright, be back in ten then if it doesnt work ;p
[01:08] <Purpley> but I need .so to be linked with .so.61
[01:08] <Jihui_Choi> Scunizi: nono.. actually I had xp and ubuntu. and I installed ubuntu 9.10 and failed. so I installed mbr for booting on xp because after installing ubuntu 9.10, I couldn't boot on xp. After that I installed 9.04 again.
[01:08] <Purpley> oh wait
[01:08] <Purpley> nvm i see what you meant lol
[01:09] <Jihui_Choi> And now I can't boot on xp still. I can boot on 9.04, though
[01:10] <a_> the name of my external HD is "disc 3". This is exactly what I am typing: mount "/media/disc 3"
[01:10] <Purpley> nvm do you know where one could install libosgGA.so.61
[01:10] <Scunizi> Jihui_Choi: look in /boot/grub/ ... that's where menu.list (your grub boot menu) is located.. see if there are backups in that directory you can look at for the right references to the load routine for xp
[01:10] <jrib> a_: what do you expect that to do?
[01:10] <Billiard> Purpley: for what program
[01:10] <pradeep> ok
[01:10] <jrib> !who | a_
[01:11] <Jihui_Choi> Scunizi: no I've just checked. there's no backup for menu.lst
[01:11] <a_> jrib: mount the drive?
[01:11] <jrib> a_: is it in your fstab then?
[01:11] <Scunizi> a_: linux doesn't like names with spaces.. if the name of the drive is "disk 3" then when mentioning it put ' on either end.
[01:11] <a_> jrib: I dont think so
[01:11] <Scunizi> Jihui_Choi: just one drive in the machine?
[01:11] <jrib> a_: then the command wouldn't work.  What are you trying to accomplish?
[01:11] <ZykoticK9> a_, if it's usb just unplug it and plug it back in!
[01:11] <Jihui_Choi> yes. I have dell mini 9
[01:12]  * stylezed kicks his own ass and says thanks to everyone
[01:12] <Jihui_Choi> and I don't have live cd, either -_-
[01:12] <cody> Okay, everything i do will not connect my printer to vista! D:
[01:12] <stylezed> thanks to those who helped - Billiard ;)
[01:12] <stylezed> bye
[01:12] <Purpley> Billiard, FGRUN which is linked to FGFS
[01:12] <ZykoticK9> a_, you mount would be something like "mount /dev/sdaX /mnt" where /mnt has to already exist as a directory
[01:13] <Scunizi> Jihui_Choi: wish I was home I could give you my references to massage.. alas .. I'm not..
[01:13] <RIPPED> hello
[01:13] <RIPPED> good night
[01:13] <m0r0n> What format is Ubuntu installed in? Fat 16?
[01:13] <chris-s> you choose on setup, ext3 I think is default
[01:13] <tonyyarusso> m0r0n: um, no....  ext3 is default in 9.04.
[01:13] <Scunizi> m0r0n: ext3 or 3xt4 by default
[01:13] <kingbuzzo> is it possible to add modelines to xorg.conf?
[01:13] <ZykoticK9> m0r0n, usually ext3
[01:13] <ae86-drifter> cody, email me at productsupport@brother.com.au
[01:13] <Jihui_Choi> Scunizi: it's ok. you know what? if I boot using hiren cd on my usb stick, I can boot on xp.
[01:13] <Jihui_Choi> it's so awkward
[01:13] <cody> ae86-drifter: Okay, let me open my email
[01:14] <MJ94_> Hi. I just started using Ubuntu today, and I can't get Ubuntu to recognize and use my wireless card. How can I get it to do so? You may say "How are you here then?" Answer: Ethernet.
[01:14] <Scunizi> Jihui_Choi: use the menu.lst from that for reference
[01:14] <RIPPED> i got a dual boot vista ubuntu9.x install , i think i did all correct , but when i hibernate , and  switch on the computer , the things was opend when hibernate , like browser or programs arent there . why ?
[01:14] <ae86-drifter> make sure u say your from australia, or we cannot provide support
[01:14] <maco> MJ94_: check system -> administraiton -> hardware drivers
[01:14] <Jihui_Choi> what reference? on my usb?
[01:14] <m0r0n> Anyone install on sucessfully?
[01:14] <maco> MJ94_: if your wireless driver isnt included, that should let you download one using your ethernet
[01:14] <Jihui_Choi> I already tried, but it didn't work well
[01:15] <tonyyarusso> m0r0n: You're missing a noun.
[01:15] <MJ94_> I clicked hardware drivers. Now what?
[01:15] <Scunizi> m0r0n: install what successfully?
[01:15] <a_> oh great, now something else went wrong. how do I force quit?
[01:15] <Billiard> Purpley: idk have you seen this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=647518
[01:15] <m0r0n> Has anyone installed Ubuntu Jaunty sucessfully on a flash drive?
[01:15] <ZykoticK9> MJ94_, after doing what maco suggested - if nothing is listed for wireless, put in a wired connect - run the updates for ubuntu - then check "hardware drivers" again (only a hint if your wireless isn't there)
[01:16] <Jihui_Choi> Scunizi: anyway thank you so much :)
[01:16] <chris-s> alt+f2 type xkill click on the frozen program
[01:16] <Scunizi> Jihui_Choi: no problem.. good luck
[01:16] <kingbuzzo> if there aren't any modelines in xorg.conf, can they even be used if added?
[01:16] <Jihui_Choi> thanks :0
[01:16] <Scunizi> kingbuzzo: yes
[01:16] <a_> jrib: how do I force quit?
[01:16]  * Purpley hugs Billiard 
[01:16] <Purpley> thanks man
[01:16] <chris-s> a__ : do alt+f2 type xkill then click on the dead program
[01:16] <Billiard> Purpley: np, so it worked?
[01:17] <cody> ae86-drifter: I emailed it
[01:17] <ZykoticK9> a_, if what chris-s suggests doesn't work try "killall -9 nameofprogram" in a terminal
[01:17] <StrangeCharm_> a_ pikill <application name>
[01:17] <ae86-drifter> cody: i have your email
[01:18] <ae86-drifter> (cody-wd 1)
[01:18] <losha> kingbuzzo: my understanding is modelines (and other config) will be used if added to the xorg.conf file. The challenge is to get the syntax & values correct when adding lines...
[01:18] <ZykoticK9> StrangeCharm_, what's with this pikill stuff?  does this replace kill and killall?
[01:18] <LordQuackstar> If i've got 2 screens set up as seperate x screens, is their any way to move windows between screens? I like having 2 x screens, but can't stand not being able to move stuff to the other screen. All google returns is people asking the same question
[01:18] <cody> ae86-drifter: okay, reply with help?
[01:18] <kingbuzzo> hm, couldn't just add "320x240" or something right?
[01:19] <StrangeCharm_> ZykoticK9, pkill <name> is like kill (pidof <name>)
[01:19] <Billiard> ZykoticK9: pkill kills based on name
[01:19] <Guest52916> is there a special channel for the netbook remix?
[01:19] <ZykoticK9> LordQuackstar, I looked into that -- NO way to move between :(  you can force windows to open on one or the other - but not switch once their open -- had big problems with firefox with a dual-X setup like that
[01:19] <losha> kingbuzzo: dunno what kind of computers you're used to, but the ones I use, you can't just guess at the config. You kind of have to know what you're doing...
[01:20] <LordQuackstar> sigh
[01:20] <StrangeCharm_> LordQuackstar, what's your gpu?
[01:20] <vox> LordQuackstar: not the way you have it set up, no
[01:20] <ZykoticK9> StrangeCharm_, Billiard so it doesn't really matter which we use?
[01:20] <LordQuackstar> StrangeCharm: an old geoforce 5500
[01:20] <kingbuzzo> well I want to have my crt monitor display low res. Before I would simply add the resolution to the modelines and be done with it
[01:20] <cody_> what is the default file viewer in ubuntu?
[01:21] <ae86-drifter> cody: please also email samba config file
[01:21] <LordQuackstar> ZykoticK9: How did you force a window to open in another screen? I was wanting to move the firefox error log to the other one
[01:21] <StrangeCharm_> ZykoticK9, there are some other methods for using dual monitors. there's a very good proprietary one for nvidia cards (twinview)
[01:21] <WanHouse> cody_: gedit most likely
[01:21] <cody_> ae86-drifter: I will send a new one with it now
[01:21] <WanHouse> cody_: No doubt since its the best viewer
[01:21] <ZykoticK9> LordQuackstar, can't do that i'm affraid -- sorry i'm mistaken, it's only with twinview you can force which window - sorry
[01:21] <ae86-drifter> ok thanks, cody_ please also detail as much as you can
[01:22] <LordQuackstar> StrangeCharm_: twinview just makes the computer think its one giant monitor. However, i like the ability to have seperate workspaces. Is their a way to do that with twinview?
[01:22] <losha> kingbuzzo: sorry, you've exceeded my expertise on the subject. If you have an old mode line from a previous x config, that's what I'd try...
[01:22] <LordQuackstar> (thats really all i want, diffrent workspaces for each monitor
[01:22] <kingbuzzo> cool, thanks
[01:22] <cody_> ae86-drifter: I just sent another email
[01:22] <WanHouse> ae86-drifter: Why not use a configurator for that ?
[01:23] <StrangeCharm_> LordQuackstar, i'm sure you could hack something with workspaces. what specific workspace features are you looking for?
[01:23] <bastidrazor> LordQuackstar: xinerama might be what your wanting. nvidia-settings has the option for this
[01:23] <WanHouse> ae86-drifter: Or do you wish to rely on cody_ all the time ?
[01:23] <ae86-drifter> WanHouse: looking at the config file would help determine what needs to be changed to allow access
[01:23] <LordQuackstar> bastidrazor: xinerama seemed just like twinview
[01:24] <ae86-drifter> WanHouse: what do you mean rely ?
[01:24] <m0r0n> Anyone know what this means in GParted    http://paste.ubuntu.com/294298/
[01:24] <ZykoticK9> LordQuackstar, just to clarify - virtual workspaces is TOTALLY different from two X sessions <-- which is a rather unusal setup i might add, i looked into it for gaming but eventually gave up on it
[01:24] <LordQuackstar> StrangeCharm_: Each monitor has an independant workspace. That way i can change workspaces in one monitor w/o it affecting the other
[01:24] <LordQuackstar> ZykoticK9: I was using 2 x screens for that feature
[01:25] <ZykoticK9> LordQuackstar, ummm ok so you really do want 2 X sessions then!
[01:25] <chris-s> m0r0n: is the drive mounted?
[01:25] <m0r0n> chris-s:  Ya
[01:25] <StrangeCharm_> LordQuackstar, you have exceeded my skills. try hacking something fun. if you make it work, publish, and relish in theglory
[01:26] <LordQuackstar> ZykoticK9: Sihg. I was really wanting to use both features at the same time
[01:26] <LordQuackstar> *sigh
[01:26] <ZykoticK9> LordQuackstar, i have 2 monitor and many virtual workspaces (ie 4 desktops) but am using twinview with one big monitor across both monitors - it's a LOT easier for me then 1 XSession on each monitor.
[01:26] <WanHouse> ae86-drifter: "add a user", "add the user to a share" (valid users or so) then youre about done.
[01:26] <LordQuackstar> Alright, thanks for the help
[01:26] <WanHouse> ae86-drifter: What i really meant was, use a gui if in doubt.
[01:26] <ae86-drifter> WanHouse, i know this, but he has already allowed access to everybody
[01:27] <chris-s> well you need to unmount it before gparted will do anything to it. So close gparted, you can probaly unmount it from places  -> computer
[01:27] <ae86-drifter> i agree that GUI is much easier to use but if i were to help somebody, looking at the conf file will tell me what needs to be changed
[01:27] <WanHouse> ae86-drifter: gadmin-samba, webmin etc could be nice. One screenshot or so and youll have your whole setup documented as well.
[01:27] <slackr> anyone else experiencing popping sounds from for example tab-completes in the shell on ubuntu 9.10?
[01:28] <ae86-drifter> cody_ : under the [printers] section change browseable = yes
[01:28] <ZykoticK9> slackr, ask same question in #ubuntu+1
[01:28] <cody_> ae86-drifter: Okay, editing now
[01:28] <violet523> SIGH. it was failure. using the nv module now so i can ge out of single user mode
[01:29] <cody_> it (under [printers] path = /tmp wrong?
[01:29] <ae86-drifter> cody: no
[01:29] <cody_> ae86-drifter: Okay, /var/lib/samba/printers is correct?
[01:29] <nossralsuva> cody: that browseable = yes      will allow the network to see the shared printers attached to the linux machine
[01:29] <ae86-drifter> sorry thats right cody_
[01:29] <ae86-drifter> both sections
[01:29] <cody_> Okay, i had to change it, for some reason it was /tmp ae86-drifter And nossralsuva Okay, i am restarting samba
[01:29] <novaspirit> hi everyone
[01:30] <slackr> ZykoticK9: ty
[01:30] <cody_> brb everyone
[01:30] <novaspirit> k
[01:30] <violet523> i ont think its a hardware problem as the card worked fine with xp before  xp was scrapped
[01:30] <novaspirit> question about installing warcraft 3 in ubuntu
[01:30] <ae86-drifter> and at the end section comment out the force user and force group lines and change guest ok to yes
[01:31] <novaspirit> i got everything to work but i can't find the setting to turn off in compiz
[01:31] <cody_> ae86-drifter: How do i comment it out?
[01:31] <novaspirit> where when you drag a window you can make it go into the next desktop
[01:31] <ae86-drifter> use a ; at the start of the line
[01:32] <ae86-drifter> semicolon
[01:32] <cody_> ae86-drifter: Commented, added, and restarted. I got to go, ill be back around 9 PM MST, i am going to a bible study
[01:32] <sorak> .uk
[01:34] <violet523> oh well ill try earlier in the morning
[01:34] <WanHouse> cody_: Do you still have bible study ? :)
[01:35] <novaspirit> !list
[01:35] <WanHouse> cody_: I think we had that in about the 18 hundreds (witchburning etc)
[01:35] <subone_> Is there anyplace I can get support for the Gnome Do application?
[01:35] <violet523> could be some automatically loaded modules maybe the nv-glx doesn't work with?
[01:35] <WanHouse> cody_: It was woted down btw :)
[01:36] <WanHouse> voted
[01:37] <bastidrazor> violet523: have you trield nvidia-glx-new ? i use that drive and 3d semi works. that card is really a bit old to do full blown 3d openGL
[01:38] <WanHouse> "And jesus, that guy snook onto Mos Eisley and wanted a ship", "All the ships are belong to me said the other guy" :)
[01:38] <IdleOne> !ot
[01:39] <violet523> bastidrazor: im not looking for full gl support, just enough so my husband an di can play wow together with out dual booting on this box
[01:41] <bastidrazor> violet523: try the -new driver. it may have better support. unsure if it'll do WOW. best of luck
[01:41] <Kurogane> i have a problem with java, i can't start it, here the error http://pastebin.com/d33b632a5 i'm using 64 bits
[01:41] <Hintswen> I have a ubuntu machine (newly installed) that I will be using with no screen (just VNC from my windows PC). I cant change the screen resolution though, I tried system>prefs>display and no minitors are listed (because none are plugged in) I also tried editing xorg.conf but there's no screen resolutions listed
[01:41] <violet523> bastidrazor: thank you ^_^
[01:41] <thedude42> violet523,  what card?
[01:42] <WanHouse> violet523: If that doesnt work... get "Plants Vs Zombies". Works perfectly under wine and i can guarrantie itll be alot of joy.
[01:42] <violet523> thedude42: geforece fx 5200
[01:42] <dsnyders> Hi all! Maximizing my windows forces it underneath the bottom panel.  How do I fix this?
[01:42] <thedude42> violet523, you may have a hard time acieving decent performance with that card with WoW under wine
[01:42] <bastidrazor> violet523: in the hardware drivers/restricted drivers section what drivers are offered?
[01:43] <thedude42> violet523, with my 7800GT it was pretty low FPS
[01:43] <violet523> bastidrazor: the 9 and 173
[01:45] <violet523> bastidrazor: sorry 96 and 173
[01:46] <Guest84147> is there a special channel for the netbook remix?
[01:46] <zopiac> cinelerra's video is going slower than the audio fo rme, can anyone help?
[01:47] <violet523> thedude42: im not expecting anything near my 8500 but under xp i was about 12 fps and ghetto which i'd be happy ith for now
[01:48] <Guest84147> anyone use ubuntu on netbook?
[01:48] <Guest84147> I want to put swap on an external disk
[01:48] <Guest84147> I am afraiid what will happend if I removed it
[01:48] <bastidrazor> violet523: violet523 i'm showing the 196 driver installed on my old jaunty box running that same card
[01:49] <ryguy> Hello, I installed Windows XP after installing Ubuntu. Ubuntu is on sda(hd0) and XP is sdb(hd1). I can boot into ubuntu by putting hd0 to the top of my boot list in bios. Same with XP when I put hd1 at the top of the boot list. Now, When I start up my machine with Ubuntu as my first boot disk, I don't get grub at all. I get a crypted line that kinda looks like an MD5 hash with dashes in it at the top of a black screen for about 15 secs then it boots into Ub
[01:49] <ryguy> untu. I need help getting GRUB back. I've followed all instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#Using%20the%20Unofficial%20%22Super%20Grub%20Disk%22 but nothing is working
[01:49] <bastidrazor> violet523: although the only real way for you to find it, is to try installing the drivers and testing. if it doesn't meet your expectations then install the other and repeat
[01:49] <dsnyders> Guest84147, It would likely be bad... Very bad.
[01:50] <ttestt> ryguy, you russian?
[01:50] <bastidrazor> violet523: just an FYI.. when you do the driver install just relog. no need to do a complete reboot
[01:50] <ryguy> ttestt: ..no?
[01:50] <nomnex> My mic does not work (Jaunty 9.04/Panasonic let's note CF-W2 (2003)) : ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4
[01:50] <violet523> bastidrazor: ll have to ceck the logs then and see iff there is an irq conflict somewhere or something insipid like that
[01:50] <hsarci> I've got a weird problem that I bet no one can solve
[01:50] <hsarci> and its actually quite simple too
[01:50] <genii> !intelhda
[01:51] <losha> Guest84147: when it tries to swap and find it can't, I expect the kernel will panic & crash the system...
[01:51] <ttestt> ryguy, nick sounds quite like russian word
[01:51] <bastidrazor> violet523: /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be the place to check
[01:51] <ryguy> ttestt: my names ryan and imma guy. ry-guy
[01:51] <ryguy> =p
[01:51] <nomnex> ubottu: I take a look
[01:51] <violet523> bastidrazor: no problem there
[01:51] <losha> ttestt: which russian word?
[01:52] <ttestt> ryguy, :)  hair colour, colour like sun. i've forgotten a word
[01:52] <violet523> giving up for the night thanks for the hlp everyone
[01:52] <bastidrazor> violet523: best of luck
[01:53] <nomnex> ? I take a look > I am following the link.
[01:53] <hsarci> im trying to put "echo -n 230 > /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/sensitivity" into /etc/rc.local. I have it in there, and rc.local is +x. However, the command doens't work; it won't execute at boot. But the command DOES work from the console after boot.
[01:53] <hsarci> any ideas?
[01:53] <ryguy> Either way, can someone help me?
[01:54] <ttestt> anyone use VLC to write video from v4l2?
[01:54] <bastidrazor> hsarci: you need the full path of echo  /bin/echo
[01:54] <dsnyders> hsarci, does it work if you execute it manually?
[01:54] <hsarci> yes it works fine manually
[01:55] <hsarci> that exact code, i just coppied from the console
[01:55] <hsarci> works fine
[01:55] <jrib> hsarci: are you adding it before the exit line?
[01:55] <hsarci> absolutely before the exit line
[01:55] <hsarci> should /bin/echo fix it?
[01:55] <dsnyders> hsarci, I think bastidrazor  has it.  Put the full path in.
[01:55] <hsarci> k im gonna edit it then restart
[01:56] <hsarci> ill come back with results
[01:56] <ryguy> can anyone help me restore GRUB?
[01:56] <bigtom21485> anyone know about nvidea sound drivers just not working on a dell dimension e521?
[01:56] <nomnex> ubottu: the link is for 6.06 LTS, I am using 9.04, the fist command does not work "cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec"
[01:56] <losha> hsarci: add some debugs e.g. echo Before setting sensitivity and echo After setting sensitivity so you can see if the rc.local gets executed. You can also add cat /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/serio2/sensitivity before and after to see the before and after values....
[01:57] <ryguy> nomnex: ubottu is a bot..
[01:57] <jrib> hsarci: is there a reason you aren't using sysctl by the way?
[01:57] <nomnex> ... oh.
[01:57] <ryguy> lol
[01:57] <losha> !grub | ryguy: maybe this will help...
[01:57] <nomnex> lol
[01:57] <hsarci> cuz i dunno what sysctl is
[01:57] <hsarci> losha, where do i see the output of those debugs?
[01:57] <ryguy> losha: I've already followed that guide
[01:58] <nomnex> any one? Mic not working on my laptop
[01:58] <jrib> hsarci: you should probably take some time to learn about it
[01:58] <divpload> hello guys
[01:58] <hsarci> can you breifly explain?
[01:58] <hsarci> is it a way to execute commands on boot?
[01:58] <jrib> hsarci: it's the proper way to edit kernel parameters.  You can set default values in sysctl.conf
[01:59] <losha> hsarci: on the console during boot. You may need to remove the 'quiet' keyword from /boot/grub/menu.lst to see more debug traces. Alternatively, you can log the output to a file by adding >> /tmp/log to each command e.g. echo Before setting sensitivity >> /tmp/log
[02:00] <hsarci> hrm, i can't just do sometihng like add sensitivity=0 to sysctl.conf?
[02:00] <losha> ryguy: sorry blondie, maybe you need to say a bit more about what you've tried and what doesn't work
[02:01] <hsarci> hold off on the response for a second im gonna /part
[02:01] <user1> Is it possible to install in text mode from the desktop install CD?
[02:01] <jrib> hsarci: that's exactly what you do. (with the proper syntax of course)
[02:02] <ryguy> losha: alright, I reinstalled grub on sda(My linux partition) and added windows at (hd1,0) to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:02] <hsarci> well, adding full path /bin/echo didn't do it
[02:03] <adamonline45> Hello, would it be recommended that I install portable Ubuntu or use a VM to run Ubuntu from within Windows?
[02:03] <user1> Does anyone have a Jetway JNF77-N1GL-LF?
[02:03] <user1> Ubuntu refuses to run on it
[02:04] <jamiejackson> i'm not getting my new ubuntu-server box to resolve from my laptop by hostname. what do i need to do to be able to resolve it by hostname? my other ubuntu machine *is* resolvable by hostname, fwiw
[02:04] <losha> hsarci: I agree with jrib, edit sysctl.conf if you can find out the correct syntax
[02:04] <hsarci> thats what ill do but i don't even know where to start to find correct syntax
[02:04] <hsarci> i googled it but didnt get much
[02:04] <ryguy> losha: Infact, I didnt do that first. I booted into my live cd and ran `sudo grub` then `root (hd0,0); setup(hd0)`
[02:04] <jrib> hsarci: man sysctl...
[02:04] <losha> adamonline45: many people seem happy with vbox. I like vmware, but it costs money...
[02:04] <hsarci> jrib, i know...
[02:04] <jrib> hsarci: man sysctl.conf...
[02:05] <ryguy> losha: grub refused to show up, showing only the cryptic md5-like string at the top of the screen, so I reinstalled grub with the same output
[02:05] <user1> Do boot args need to be followed by --?
[02:05] <fbc-mx> How do you create a dial-up connection????
[02:05] <ae86-drifter> /etc/cups/printers.conf
[02:05] <jrib> !dialup | fbc-mx
[02:05] <DaZ> ryguy: menu.lst? :f
[02:05] <losha> ryguy: so windows overwrote your mbr and you can only boot into windows now?
[02:06] <ryguy> No, I have Ubuntu on sda and XP on sdb. I can boot into xp by changing the boot priority in the BIOS
[02:07] <ryguy> I'm not seeing ANY boot menu
[02:07] <ryguy> no grub or windows boot
[02:07] <divpload_> Hello, do you know a good book about linux?
[02:07] <vox> ryguy: did you install ubuntu first, then xp?
[02:07] <ryguy> yes
[02:08] <adamonline45> losha: Thanks, I'll check out the free option :)  I have a spare raid array in by box right now, and I'd like to install Ubuntu to that.  Can I do a 'stand-alone' install like I would for dual booting, yet use a VM to run it from within Windows?  Sorry for the noob questions, the intricacies of VMing are new to me :)
[02:08] <vox> ryguy: windows has over-written the boot menu
[02:08] <DaZ> on both drives
[02:08] <DaZ> \o/
[02:08] <ryguy> they're on seperate HDDs
[02:08] <hsarci> jrib, any ideas on how i can find out the keyname?
[02:08] <HardDisk> any help with why nm-applet is not loading as a startup application nm-applet -sm-disable but after i alt-f2 and nm-applet alone it works? here's my xsession pastebin if anyone can read it, http://pastebin.ca/1623119
[02:08] <jrib> hsarci: change / to . devices.platform.whatever
[02:09] <ryguy> I also installed XP with the harddrive ubuntu is on unplugged
[02:09] <vox> ryguy: ok, that's different
[02:09] <DaZ> ryguy: menu.lst? ;f
[02:09] <vox> ryguy: what happens when you try to boot from the ubuntu hd?
[02:10] <ryguy> vox: it goes past bios messages, then I get a blank black screen with a cryptic, md5 like hash at the top of the screen for about 15 seconds
[02:10] <ryguy> then it boots right into ubuntu
[02:10] <matt____> hello i jus istalled 9.04 and my keyboard i very agy
[02:10] <Andrewfblack> anyone know an easy way to get Ubuntu working on a HP Pavilion zv6000
[02:10] <matt____> is there a reason  behind this?
[02:10] <Varth> I'm running the 9.10 beta, and when I try to open a folder from the places menu, it says "Could not open location 'file:///home/nathan' - No application is registered as handling this file" Does anyone have any idea what's going on?
[02:10] <vox> ryguy: did you have the windows hd plugged in when you installed ubuntu?
[02:11] <vox> Varth: join #ubuntu+1 for karmic support
[02:11] <hsarci> jrin, i still got "unknown key"
[02:11] <ryguy> vox: No I installed ubuntu last night and XP about 2 hours ago
[02:11] <hsarci> jrib*
[02:11] <Varth> vox: Gotcha.
[02:11] <jrib> hsarci: that's how it works, don't know then
[02:11] <hsarci> lol
[02:11] <hsarci> thanks anyway
[02:11] <vox> ryguy: i understand that, but did you have the drive that windows was installed onto plugged-in when you installed ubuntu?
[02:12] <hsarci> if echo command i was running doesn't work then theres gotta be a more screwed up reason
[02:12] <jstarcher> I just installed 9.10 on a separate partition and it still boots to my old 8.10 install even though the new partition has be setup with grub2 and has the boot flag
[02:12] <matt____> is  there any reason anyone can think ofwhy my keyboard wou be so laging?
[02:12] <jstarcher> what can I do to fix?
[02:12] <ryguy> vox: I think so, it was wiped multiple times since then though
[02:12] <matt____> very frustrating
[02:12] <acidic> stickykeys
[02:12] <jrib> hsarci: how are you getting an error anyway if you are just entering them into sysctl.conf?
[02:12] <DaZ> matt____: cable is too long.
[02:12] <Bluey> matt____: have you checked top to see what's runng?
[02:13] <Yiati> hello
[02:13] <user1> What can I do if Ubuntu halts during installation?
[02:13] <hsarci> im using command line sysctl
[02:13] <hsarci> no sense in changing the file if i cant change it from command line
[02:13] <Bluey> user1: what do you mean halts?  did the md5 checksums match?
[02:13] <vox> ryguy: i'd say what has happened in this: you have disk A and disk B. you install ubuntu on to disk B, but the boot record/menu gets installed on disk A. you then unplug disk B, install windows on disk A, and windows over-writes the boot record and boot menu
[02:13] <matt____> bluey top?
[02:13] <matt____> i'm a nwb sorry
[02:14] <user1> Bluey: I've done a memtest and a CD check and all is ok
[02:14] <ovrdrive> evening everyone
[02:14] <ryguy> vox: sounds reasonable, but ubuntu was installed on disk A (hd0)
[02:14] <Yiati> What should i do during the install command if I am using a tv for a display through and s-video, and it won't install because of that
[02:14] <jrib> hsarci: probably needs to be in /proc/sys
[02:14] <Bluey> matt____: type in "top" (no quotes) into a terminal box -- and it well tell you whats grabbing all the cpu time
[02:14] <user1> Bluey: The installer starts; the logo appears and the progress bar progresses, then I get a black screen and a blinking cursor in the top left corner
[02:14] <vox> ryguy: ...then none of this is making any sense :)
[02:14] <hsarci> i need to execute from proc sys???
[02:14] <Bluey> user1: did the md5 checksums match?
[02:14] <hsarci> root@Hsarci-laptopUB:/usr/share/man# sysctl -p sensitivity error: unable to open preload file "sensitivity"
[02:15] <ryguy> vox: thats what I'm getting out of it
[02:15] <vox> ryguy: i have that exact same setup on my desktop
[02:15] <txt23> Where can I find odler releases?
[02:15] <preecher> is there a command i can put in a terminal that will give me a complete list of all progs that are installed
[02:15] <user1> Bluey: As I said - I ran a disk check and it passed.  I this should be equivalent to an MD5 sum check
[02:15] <Bluey> preecher: dpkg -l
[02:15] <hsarci> root@Hsarci-laptopUB:/usr/share/man# sysctl -w sensitivity=230 error: "sensitivity" is an unknown key
[02:15] <ovrdrive> i have a question?, where do i find the settings, or something of that nature, that we tell this os that a s-video cable is hooked up, so i can use this on my flat screen tv?
[02:15] <vox> preecher: ...that's going to be a very long list.
[02:15] <ryguy> vox: I've tried every trick to restore grub but grub doesnt show up at all when I boot ubuntu or windows
[02:15] <Ochian> Anyone have advise for reading PDFs inside Firefox 3.0?  Xubuntu (kind of old, but exact release unknown).
[02:15] <user1> Bluey: I've installed from the disk before and it was fine (on a different machine).
[02:16] <Bluey> user1: not at all
[02:16] <hsarci> jrib, I can edit the file as root and save it and it works immediatley
[02:16] <Bluey> that just means the disc is readable
[02:16] <user1> Bluey: Really?
[02:16] <jrib> hsarci: did you see the last thing I said?
[02:16] <vox> ryguy: there's a few grub-restore howto's on the ubuntuforms, have you looked into those?
[02:16] <preecher> some progs ive dloaded and installed dont show on my apps menus so i thought id see if they listed on terminal
[02:16] <ryguy> Ochian: goto #xubuntu for xubuntu related questions
[02:16] <hsarci> about /proc/sys?
[02:16] <user1> Bluey: Anyway, I'm pretty sure it's not the disk
[02:16] <Bluey> user1: let me see if I can find the md5sums
[02:16] <jrib> hsarci: yes
[02:16] <hsarci> jrib, what needs to be in /proc/sys?
[02:16] <ryguy> vox: I've been reading through them for an hour and a half now
[02:17] <jrib> hsarci: your path begins with /sys, not /proc/sys
[02:17] <user1> Bluey: I've tried with an alternate CD and get the same problem
[02:17] <hsarci> gotcha
[02:17] <flanders> For some reason, autofs is not working for me, even though I configured everything properly. I have a file called /etc/auto.cifs which /etc/auto.master is pointed to. Inside of auto.cifs, I have the format (share_name    options    remote_share)
[02:17] <hsarci> ...checking now
[02:17] <flanders> Does anyone use autofs for remote shares?
[02:17] <alteregoa> how can i stop the x server?
[02:17] <Bluey> lets md5 checksum - here's where the checksums are stored:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[02:17] <flanders> I can connect to the remote share with Nautilus, so it's not a connection problem.
[02:17] <hsarci> jrib, no good...
[02:18] <Bluey> user1: do you know how to md5 checksum a file?
[02:18] <user1> Bluey: Can I run an MD5 checksum from the CD?
[02:18] <vox> ryguy: hm. there is a way this could have happened
[02:18] <Bluey> user1: you'd run it on the iso you downloaded
[02:18] <user1> Can I Ctrl+Alt+F1 then run md5sum
[02:18] <bastidrazor> alteregoa: gnome?
[02:18] <user1> I'm on a Windows machine
[02:18] <Bluey> ahh
[02:18] <jrib> hsarci: I'm just telling you that sysctl operates on /proc/sys, not on what you are doing (apparently)
[02:18] <vox> ryguy: how familiar are you with udev?
[02:18] <Bluey> user1: let me find a windows md5
[02:18] <ryguy> vox: never heard of it but I pick up on things fast
[02:18] <hsarci> i just tried it with /proc/sys
[02:20] <vox> ryguy: ok cool. basicly, linux doesnt assign devices based on boot priority order. just because a drive is listed as /dev/sda doesnt mean it's the primary sata disk on controller 0, for example
[02:20] <ryguy> vox: alright
[02:20] <ryguy> vox: should I try auto super grub disk first?
[02:21] <vox> ryguy: the ONLY thing that makes sense, is if linux saw the windows disk as the "first" disk, and wrote the boot menu there
[02:21] <matt____> it doesn't look that bad actually, the icons in the bot of he screen are also discolord
[02:21] <Bluey> user1: go here and download the md5checksum for windows:  http://www.etree.org/md5com.html
[02:21] <vox> ryguy: there just isnt any other way to explain it
[02:21] <user1> Bluey: I've found some info on the hash page
[02:21] <InsanePenguin> what is a good size to make the hdd for ubuntu server 9.04
[02:22] <Bluey> user1: kewl do the numbers match?
[02:22] <matt____> i instllled 9.0 ysterday the upgaded, then downgraded due to probleems, keybord wored perfectly yeterday
[02:22] <user1> I'll check the CD (even though I'm pretty sure it's fine), then get back to you...
[02:22] <vox> InsanePenguin: depends on what you're planning on doing with it
[02:22] <Bluey> user1: no you checksum the iso file NOT the cd.
[02:22] <losha> ryguy: vox: hmm. won't the grub command 'find /boot/grub/stage1' sort that out?
[02:22] <Bluey> user1: if you downloaded a bad copy this will tell you
[02:22] <ryguy> losha: the output of that command gives me hd(0,0)
[02:23] <ryguy> er (hd0,0)
[02:23] <InsanePenguin> vox: idk just messing around mostly, install apace, setup ftp, maybe a mail server
[02:23] <kcsrnd> what's the syntax to scp to a nonstandard ssh port?
[02:23] <Ochian> ryguy: Not helpful because the question was not Xubuntu specific.  However, I found my answer here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EvinceMozilla
[02:23] <kcsrnd> because it's scp file user@host:destdirectory
[02:23] <kcsrnd> where do you put the port?
[02:23] <KittyBoots> I am looking for advice on how to set up a network.  I have two machines both running Ubuntu 9.10, where do I start?
[02:23] <DaZ> kcsrnd: scp --help
[02:23] <bastidrazor> kcsrnd: scp -P1234
[02:24] <daerogami> Hey everyone, I just installed Edgy Eft 6.10 on a Dell and its telling me the repositories aren't available and it wont let me download the new update, it tells me authentication failed, im hoping theres an alternative to downloading the latest distro and burning to CD for reinstall
[02:24] <ryguy> Ochian: Oh sorry, I saw xubuntu and assumed
[02:24] <kcsrnd> bastidrazor:  thanks
[02:24] <vox> InsanePenguin: if its just a test box, 20gb would be more than ample
[02:24] <Ochian> np
[02:24] <InsanePenguin> ok that is what i was thinking
[02:24] <Bluey> daerogami: why didnt you get 9.04?
[02:24] <daerogami> umm, its embarrasing Bluey, im too lazy to update my liveCD
[02:25] <ovrdrive> i have a question?, where do i find the settings, or something of that nature, that we tell this os that a s-video cable is hooked up, so i can use this on my flat screen tv?
[02:25] <Bluey> daerogami: ahh that could be a problem
[02:25] <daerogami> so i cant upgrade from this?
[02:25] <vox> daerogami: 6.04 is massively old, and there's been significant changes to ubuntu since then. swallow it and download 9.04 iso :)
[02:25] <bastidrazor> !tvout | ovrdrive
[02:25] <ryguy> Alright, so `find /boot/grub/stage1` returns `(hd0,0)` and hd0,0 is SDA which is what Ubuntu is installed on. Why is my computer not loading into grub?
[02:25] <daerogami> ill ahve to download to Cd and rehash?
[02:25] <losha> ryguy: well, I think vox is on the right track about it depending on how the disks are discovered. How about disconnecting the windows disk and seeing if you can ubuntu booting from grub when it's the only disk?
[02:25] <daerogami> thx vox
[02:25] <daerogami> ill be back when im done, thank god i have FiOS
[02:26] <Bluey> daerogami: you'd download the iso to your hard drive, then burn it to a cd using some cd burner programme
[02:26] <daerogami> yes i know
[02:26] <daerogami> i just didnt want to resort to that
[02:26] <vox> ryguy: either that, or your sda is completely hosed.
[02:26] <Bluey> daerogami: sorry
[02:26] <KittyBoots> I am looking for advice on how to set up a network.  I have two machines both running Ubuntu 9.04, where do I start?
[02:26] <kcsrnd> daerogami:  lol you really are stuck in that chair huh?
[02:26] <daerogami> its all good thx
[02:26] <ryguy> Im gonna restart brb
[02:27] <kcsrnd> FiOS and can't d/l and burn the latest :P
[02:27] <v1tal3> kittyboots: plug them into a switch/router?
[02:27] <ovrdrive> so i have to install xorg, to ungrey out the tv settings options?, and give the choice of tv or monitor?
[02:27] <user1> Bluey: I don't have the iso
[02:27] <Bluey> user1: :-(
[02:27] <user1> Bluey: I'm 95% sure the disk is fine
[02:27] <daerogami> kcsrnd, not a matter of stuck to the chair, in fact downloading the whole thing and burning to CD/DVD will keep me in it longer than a point and click update :p
[02:27] <Bluey> user1: that's what you md5checksum against...
[02:28] <Bluey> user1: you may have had a bad d/l
[02:28] <user1> Bluey: The disk is fine
[02:28] <kcsrnd> hah yeah i guess
[02:28] <DaZ> daerogami: ubuntu doesn't like updates
[02:28] <user1> Bluey: You're not listening - I've installed from the CD numerous times
[02:28] <Bluey> user1: have you tried it on another machine?
[02:29] <vox> user1: if you keep getting incorrect md5sums, you have bad ram
[02:29] <user1> Bluey: I'm not getting incorrect MD5s!
[02:29] <kcsrnd> lol
[02:29] <user1> Bluey: Sorry, that was to vox
[02:30] <user1> The CD is fine.  I'm sure it's something else.
[02:30] <vox> ah, my bad
[02:30] <vox> what's the issue?
[02:30] <daerogami> alright, downloading on alternate pc, eta 2 min :p
[02:30] <Madcamper> does ubuntu have any support for TV Tuners for HP laptops?
[02:30] <Bluey> user1: does the target machine have enough ram?
[02:30] <user1> What I really want to know is how to drop back to text-mode install from the desktop CD
[02:30] <user1> Yes
[02:30] <user1> It has 1GB
[02:30] <Bluey> user1: kewl
[02:30] <daerogami> please tell me beryl comes standard with the new distro
[02:31] <genii> !beryl
[02:31] <Bluey> user1: you need the text installer cd for that...
[02:31] <Bluey> user1: I have one machine that's marginal so I have to get that...
[02:31] <vox> user1: desktop-alternate is textmode
[02:31] <user1> I'm pretty sure I've fallen back to text mode before with a desktop CD
[02:31] <daerogami> they changed it name?!
[02:31] <daerogami> its*
[02:31] <hsarci> jrib, u there?
[02:31] <Bluey> thanks vox
[02:31] <daerogami> !compiz
[02:31] <vox> daerogami: no, they merged beryl with compiz
[02:32] <daerogami> and is it integrated into the new Ubuntu(new to me) distro?
[02:32] <vox> daerogami: has been for.. 2 releases now i think?
[02:32] <v1tal3> KittyBoots: did you figure it out?
[02:32] <daerogami> awesome
[02:33] <Bluey> KittyBoots: start with putting openssh-server on each machine - sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[02:34] <daerogami> is it anymore demanding, id imagine this dell (512 Ram, 2.7Ghz Celeron, typical XP model) can handle it
[02:34] <Bluey> KittyBoots: and make sure the lan address of each machine is in /etc/hosts
[02:34] <CpasFaux> Can someone help me? I've a problem with standy and hibernation
[02:34] <vox> daerogami: what gfx card?
[02:35] <GenDeath> :D
[02:35] <daerogami> vox, im pretty sure its a pos intel builtin
[02:35] <vox> daerogami: mmuh.. it may, it may not.
[02:35] <daerogami> shared memory, prob 64mbit
[02:36] <daerogami> its running edgy eft just fine so ill keep my fingers crossed
[02:37] <CpasFaux> Can someone help me? I've a problem with standy and hibernation
[02:37] <CpasFaux> no standy...suspend sorry
[02:38] <Omlette> CpasFaux: If I understand right, standby = suspend, so either one works.
[02:38] <keith1> does anyone use Cinelerra?  Can it work in Ubuntu or must I use Ubuntustudios?  I have it installed in Ubuntu and its really really slow.
[02:39] <CpasFaux> Omlette, I don't know....mise en veille and hibernation in french :D
[02:39] <Omlette> Ahh.
[02:39] <DaZ> keith1: and it will be slow on ubuntu studio.
[02:39] <v1tal3> Does anyone have any experience with clustering multiple ubuntu/linux machines?
[02:39] <keith1> Daz: Terrible :(
[02:40] <keith1> DaZ: So disappointed I cant use Jahshaka either, I use to love using Jahshaka.
[02:40] <DaZ> keith1: why? :f
[02:40] <CpasFaux> Omlette, so...can you help me?
[02:41] <keith1> DaZ: just easy to move objects around.  easy to make video intros.
[02:41] <Omlette> CpasFaux: Sorry, but I'm not experienced enough. :|
[02:41] <DaZ> keith1: why you can't
[02:41] <KittyBoots> What do I need to setup a home network with 2 Ubuntu machines and one Windows machine?
[02:41] <ZykoticK9> v1tal3, i used to use openmosix and distcc - but that was YEARS ago (on err.. Gentoo).  Best of luck to you - hope you have a fast network :)
[02:41] <Bluey> KittyBoots: asked and answered
[02:41] <keith1> DaZ: tried many ways to install it and all failed
[02:41] <dksoba88> Is there a way I can make my computer run a script when I plug in a specific USB external hard drive?
[02:42] <salax> KittyBoots, a switch
[02:42] <CpasFaux> Omlette, you give me false hopes :p
[02:42] <dksoba88> (incase you're wondering, it's so that my backups OF my external drive to my computer are not prone to human error)
[02:42] <KittyBoots> What software do I need to use?
[02:42] <v1tal3> ZykoticK9: I will check those out online, thanks, as I was having a hard time figuring out where to start.  And I have plenty of bandwidth, but thanks for the concern :)
[02:42] <Bluey> argh...
[02:43] <Billiard> KittyBoots: for doing what?
[02:43] <v1tal3> kittyboots: do you own a router?
[02:43] <DaZ> KittyBoots: it depends what do you mean as home network
[02:43] <KittyBoots> How do I setuo a network, I have a router.
[02:43] <salax> KittyBoots, nonsense.. u need wires, and switch.. and configure the ips
[02:43] <ZykoticK9> v1tal3, openmosix might not exist anymore.  distcc is just to compile c source code - not to useful, unless you're compiling c source code.
[02:43] <salax> KittyBoots, go to networking channel
[02:44] <KittyBoots> Can anyone connect me to a tutorial on how to set up a home network
[02:44] <ZykoticK9> KittyBoots, to share files/printer with windows/ubuntu look into Samba
[02:44] <KittyBoots> salax: what is the network channel?
[02:44] <v1tal3> zykotick9: I read somewhere today about using a combination of MPI, NFS, and NIS, but i just started looking into it today.  I'm not looking to compile code (yet) either
[02:44] <salax> KittyBoots, /join #networking
[02:45] <phenrique> hello, some sugestion for c++ compiler in ubuntu?
[02:45] <salax> g++
[02:45] <DaZ> gcc ;f
[02:46] <docro> HI! I was wondering if anyone has noticed the default netcat behavior for waiting on STDIN has been changed. It appears that it indefintely waits on stdin, whereas the default use to be to terminated immediately upon EOF
[02:46] <docro> 9.04 is all I have tested*
[02:46] <navap> Can you use scp to move a folder?
[02:46] <docro> navap: no, secure-copy not secure mv :)
[02:47] <docro> you can use ssh to move a folder
[02:47] <navap> Is there an alternative? smv or something like that?
[02:47] <v1tal3> zykotick9: fyi, the openmosix project shut down march 2008, but the source is still available online
[02:47] <docro> ssh user@machine mv /path/to/folder /path/to/new
[02:47] <navap> /path/to/new is on the new machine?
[02:47] <docro> they are both on the new machine
[02:47] <docro> if you want to move a local folder you would need to first scp it, then rm the local copy
[02:48] <navap> er, my mistake. I meant scp to copy a folder.
[02:49] <navap> But there isn't a scp -r like mv has.
[02:49] <DaZ> navap: there isn't? :o
[02:50] <prince_jammys> someone stole it
[02:50] <navap> Well if it is, it's playing hide-and-seek with me.
[02:50] <bastidrazor> navap: yes there is. scp -r /folder user@host:/new/place/
[02:50] <DaZ>        -r     Recursively  copy  entire  directories.   Note that scp follows symbolic links encountered in the tree traversal.
[02:50] <phenrique> salax, g++ is a IDE? or only a compiler?
[02:50] <Billiard> phenrique: compiler
[02:50] <lstarnes> phenrique: it is a complier
[02:51] <ZykoticK9> v1tal3, ya i kinda though something happened to openmosix.  it was kinda cool - but needs kernel implementation on all cluster machines - so probably REALLY difficult to implement if not supported at the OS level (ie Ubuntu) -- no idea on alternative cluster software for Ubuntu.  Gotta run, so best of luck
[02:51]  * navap is blind
[02:51] <phenrique> do you know some IDE?
[02:51] <navap> I tried scp -r just to test it and it gave me back the syntax/help because I hadn't specifed the folders..
[02:51] <navap> Thanks guys.
[02:52] <phenrique> with included compiler
[02:52] <MTecknology> What commnad do I run to automatically install packages for when I pick what a servers role will be?
[02:53] <phenrique> Billiard and lstarnes do you know some IDE with included compiler like Devcpp in windows
[02:53] <phenrique> ?
[02:53] <Bluey> MTecknology: ?
[02:53] <CpasFaux> do u know a good book about linux (not only for ubuntu)?
[02:53] <lstarnes> phenrique: most IDEs use separate compilers, usually gcc/g++
[02:53] <Bluey> CpasFaux: yes "Linux in a Nutshell"
[02:53] <lstarnes> phenrique: eclipse is one ide, but there are several
[02:54] <Pulga> phenrique i'm using netbeans
[02:54] <MTecknology> Bluey: you're greated with it in the server and alternate install
[02:54] <CpasFaux> thx Bluey
[02:54]  * Bluey is clueless atm
[02:54] <phenrique> i have netbeans, it is difficult configure c++ in there?
[02:54] <phenrique> Pulga
[02:54] <Bluey> CpasFaux: you are welcome
[02:55] <Pulga> phenrique no, tools->C/C++
[02:55] <Bluey> CpasFaux: it's a book I used almost everyday - it's from o' reilly - you should be able to find on amazon...
[02:56] <Pulga> the compilers are gcc/g++
[02:56] <Bluey> bbl -
[02:56] <Pulga> phenrique, speak portuguese?
[02:57] <CpasFaux> blueyaway, what is the last edition?
[02:57] <phenrique> yeah :)
[02:57] <CpasFaux> 5?
[02:57] <eie> !ubuntu 9.10
[02:57] <eie> ubottu stupid bot lol
[02:58] <bastidrazor> !karmic | eie
[02:58] <eie> 14 days to update
[02:59] <flanders> For some reason, with all configurations identical, autofs works fine on openSUSE, but on Ubuntu 9.04 it does not. Is there anything extra that needs to be enabled on Ubuntu for autofs to work properly? This is not a server issue, since I can manually connect to the CIFS, but autofs does not work.
[02:59] <tiger2wander> Hi everyone!
[02:59] <tsukiyomi> has anyone installed correctly the GSPCA in ubuntu or xubuntu?
[02:59] <sakthivel> hi.. i cant view onlinemovies from from websites even i had installed adobe flash player and macromedia etc.. .
[03:00] <sakthivel> any reason
[03:00] <flanders> What error does it give you, sakthivel?
[03:00] <preecher> does anyone kno if zircon works in ubuntu
[03:01] <sakthivel> no error..
[03:01] <tsukiyomi> HELLO :) has anyone installed correctly the GSPCA in ubuntu or xubuntu?
[03:01] <sakthivel> just wqitong fro loading movies long time
[03:01] <tiger2wander> I have just configure /etc/network/interfaces to enable if-pre-up & if-post-down event for iptables config but it's look like conflict with network-manager, have any suggestion?
[03:01] <coz_> tsukiyomi,  is this for a webcam?
[03:01] <tsukiyomi> YES
[03:01] <coz_> tsukiyomi,  what is the manufacturer of this webcam
[03:02] <sakthivel> what i suppose to install to see online movies
[03:02] <Madcamper> has anyone tried getting the HP TV Tuner to work in ubuntu?
[03:02] <tsukiyomi> i have big problems with it, i cant compile it, the manufacturer...well its a driver for 200+ webcams
[03:02] <flanders> sakthivel: do you mean like YouTube?
[03:02] <sakthivel> yaa
[03:02] <sakthivel> same like that websites
[03:02] <coz_> tsukiyomi,   do you have alink for that so I can try it here
[03:03] <tsukiyomi> this is it http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html
[03:03] <sakthivel> plugins i installed ready
[03:03] <tsukiyomi> i have kernel 2.6.26.x so
[03:03] <flanders> sakthivel: so it just takes a long time to load the videos?
[03:03] <coz_> tsukiyomi,  ok hold on let me try this compile
[03:04] <tsukiyomi> thnxs
[03:04] <sakthivel> means .. waiting .. but cant display after long times also
[03:04] <tiger2wander> Have anyone known to avoid problem between interfaces configuration and network-manager?
[03:04] <Madcamper> has anyone tried getting the HP TV Tuner to work in ubuntu?
[03:04] <coz_> tsukiyomi,   first...did you read the  README_AND_ISTALL file to see if your camera is suppoerted with this driver?
[03:05] <flanders> sakthivel: has it worked before?
[03:05] <sakthivel> yaa before worked..
[03:05] <tsukiyomi> yes i did, and it is
[03:05] <coz_> tsukiyomi,  ok hold on
[03:05] <matelot> Question: Does GNOME Theme bind to each user separately ? i.e. On a system w/ multiple users (like a family) can each user have his own GNOME Theme ?
[03:06] <lstarnes> matelot: I beliebe so
[03:06] <lstarnes> *believe
[03:06] <tsukiyomi> when i compile i get the same error here look, http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2501109&group_id=28498&atid=393547
[03:06] <matelot> thx lstarnes
[03:06] <matelot> can someone with multiple users confirm ?
[03:07] <vox> matelot: yes
[03:07] <lstarnes> matelot: my user accounts all have different themes
[03:07] <matelot> thanks lstarnes, vox
[03:07] <flanders> sakthivel: I have to sleep now, sorry. Try installed the non-free adobe flash plugin.
[03:07] <flanders> *installing
[03:07] <sakthivel> ok flanders
[03:07] <sakthivel> thanks
[03:08] <eie> Questio: Why ubuntu runs in low graphics mode if the monitor is not active with ubuntu OS.. it happes with kvm switches(if monitor is active with other pc) and virtualbox(if mouse is controled by host OS)
[03:08] <sakthivel> where i acn get non free adobe flash
[03:08] <coz_> tsukiyomi,  ok this is not compiling here either ...there is  a dependecy missing  but also you may have to contact the developer on this one and tell him exactly the errors   you get in the terminal
[03:08] <eie> Question lol
[03:09] <tsukiyomi> bummr i see, some other people got the same error and were able to fix it by installing a old kernel version, what do you think?
[03:09] <Xcell> sakthivel-  sudo apt-get install ubunu-restricted-extras    that will give all you should need
[03:09] <Xcell> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:10] <eie> anyone knows why?
[03:10] <eie> is there a way to fix it
[03:11] <Madcamper> has anyone tried getting the HP TV Hauppauge Tuner to work in ubuntu?
[03:11] <sakthivel> yaa i tried to install ubuntu restricted extras.. but error ... cant install ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[03:11] <coz_> tsukiyomi,  that is certainly one options  but  i would suggest contacting the developer  and letting him know...he will answer and I believe there is an email address for him in that README file
[03:12] <Xcell> Madcamper-     http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-853236.html
[03:12] <sakthivel> conflicting with other software
[03:12] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Madcamper: I have a Hauppauge Tuner, not sure if its the same model tho
[03:12] <coz_> tsukiyomi,   dont hesitate to contact a developer especially when they offer their email address
[03:12] <sakthivel> so what i suppose to remove from synaptic packages
[03:12] <Madcamper> one sec ill tell you waht mine is
[03:12] <CoJaBo-Aztec> I just plugged it in, and it worked :O
[03:12] <m0r0n> Can someone help me partition a flash drive into FAT32
[03:13] <Madcamper> HP P/N: 438587-002 HP S/N: 439130-002
[03:14] <Madcamper> its an HP one, but its from the Hauppauge company
[03:16] <tsukiyomi> coz_, thank you very much i will contact the developer, hoping to get a response from him soon
[03:16] <coz_> tsukiyomi,  good   also let me know if he gives you a solution :)
[03:16] <Yiati> quit
[03:16] <preecher> anyone kno a good webcam prog for ubuntu other than cheese
[03:16] <tsukiyomi> ok (:
[03:16] <coz_> preecher,  let me check
[03:16] <Guest56334> CHEESE :P
[03:17] <shazam> brie?
[03:17] <Madcamper> i did the sudo apt-get install ivtv-utils
[03:17] <Madcamper> how do i open it though
[03:17] <Madcamper> ?
[03:17] <Guest56334> http://live.gnome.org/Cheese << here preecher have some cheese
[03:18] <coz_> preecher,  there is camorama
[03:18] <preecher> cheese is no good for me
[03:18] <coz_> preecher,  webcamstudio
[03:18] <preecher> lemme check that one thanks coz
[03:18] <coz_> preecher,  maybe handbrak although I think that is a conversion application
[03:18] <billowboy> Hello everyo ^_^
[03:19] <vox> I_fallow_jesus: i know it might be difficult, but please try to resist the urge to be a fool.
[03:19] <I_fallow_jesus> yes it a dvd riping software
[03:19] <m0r0n> Can someone help me partition a flash drive into FAT32
[03:19] <coz_> preecher,  also if you want surveilance camera security that is   called  Zoneminder  but your camera has to be identified in linux first and that is not a guarantee it will work with Zoneminder
[03:20] <The_monster> hi
[03:20] <preecher> its just for web chat
[03:20] <I_fallow_jesus> try vlc it can be used as a webcam software
[03:20] <coz_> preecher,  ok  also check to see if you have ffmpeg installed
[03:21] <I_fallow_jesus> sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[03:21] <InsanePenguin> during the instal of server, it asdks you to select collections of pkgs(lamp, dns, etc) can i add/delete these later?
[03:21] <The_monster> can anyone help me use snort
[03:21] <vox> InsanePenguin: yes
[03:21] <preecher> after switching to ubuntu 9-04 from anutr distro the cheese always has fuzzy pic output
[03:21] <InsanePenguin> srry for the typos, tryin to type with on hand
[03:21] <InsanePenguin> kk
[03:22] <tetsu_> I've installed mysql-server. How do I make it available to other hosts?
[03:22] <tetsu_>  /etc/hosts.allow ?
[03:22] <preecher> how do i see if ffmpeg is installed
[03:22] <coz_> preecher,  for chatting  pidgin should work
[03:22] <tetsu_> preecher: type ffmpe in a terminal and hit tab
[03:22] <evilaim> Y0w y0w...
[03:22] <I_fallow_jesus> ffmpeg*
[03:23] <preecher> its not installed
[03:23] <tetsu_> then install it
[03:23] <evilaim> is there any way that I can remote ssh into a computer, and use cli to watch movies on an account that has the GUI on the pc?
[03:23] <coz_> preecher,  sudo apt-get install ffmpeg   you will need that
[03:23] <preecher> kk thanks
[03:23] <vox> evilaim: uh.. it's possible, yes
[03:24] <I_fallow_jesus> evilami better set upa ftp than install vlc web plug in
[03:24] <evilaim> How?
[03:24] <tiger2wander> Where I can get Empathy when I close it? I see it in process list but can not find where to call its contact list. Pidgin has an icon at system tray
[03:25] <I_fallow_jesus> I use proftp easy to set up just do sudo apt-get install proftp
[03:25] <vox> evilaim: i honestly cant remember off to the top of my head.. it involves alot of piping and stuffing around. havent done it in 2-3 years
[03:25] <evilaim> That can't be right haha
[03:25] <I_fallow_jesus> ya FTP is a lot better for what you wont might even be faster
[03:25] <evilaim> has to be easy
[03:25] <I_fallow_jesus> and easyer
[03:26] <coz_> tiger2wander,  I would kill it in t he process window reopen it and go to its preferences to see if it has an systray icon options...if not  I would switch to pidgin
[03:26] <vox> evilaim: the problem is where you're launching it from. if the shell is activated from within the x-session, there's no issue. but by ssh-ing in, you have to "route" the output to the x-session.. and that causes problems
[03:27] <tiger2wander> coz_, :) You are not need to kill it, simple open it again. The contact list will bring up again
[03:27] <evilaim> :(
[03:27] <coz_> tiger2wander,  there you go
[03:27] <I_fallow_jesus> what is it you trying to do evilaim??
[03:27] <evilaim> dang
[03:27] <vox> evilaim: as i said, it is doable
[03:27] <tiger2wander> But the pain is: sometime I have lose message while its contact list is hidden
[03:27] <vox> evilaim: but it's not a simple "mplayer $filename" arguement
[03:28] <evilaim> hmm
[03:28] <I_fallow_jesus> what is it that your trying to do evilaim?
[03:30] <vox> evilaim: well think about it. when you open a shell via whatever method (remote ssh, local tty, x-shell, whatever), the output is going to come back to that console. what you're wanting to do is to spawn the process on one sheel, then redirect the output to X.. it's not straight-forward
[03:31] <momelod> greetings channel
[03:31] <momelod> can anyone tell me if there is a way to install ubuntu using an older kernel?
[03:31] <momelod> the kernel on the install iso doesnt work w/ my raid card
[03:32] <vox> momelod: how do you mean "doesnt work with"
[03:32] <mebaran151> on the newest upgrade of ubuntu, I keep getting nautilus trying to fork more and more processes
[03:32] <mebaran151> anybody know if this is a known bug?
[03:32] <Laibsch> mebaran151: #ubuntu+1
[03:32] <vox> mebaran151: which ubuntu version? 9.04 or 9.10?
[03:32] <mebaran151> 9.10
[03:33] <vox> mebaran151: join #ubuntu+1 as Laibsch said :)
[03:33] <tiger2wander> mebaran151, May be it is new implementation of Nautilus to support multiple threading :P
[03:33] <Laibsch> Hi!  Any DNS experts around?  I have a problem where a host (mail.leggewie.org) resolves fine on one computer but not on another where it is NXDOMAIN.  I don't really understand why and would appreciate some help in analysing (dig & friends).
[03:33] <momelod> vox: dmraid produces the following error: "either the required RAID set not found or more options required'
[03:33] <vox> Laibsch: do they have the same nameservers?
[03:33] <Laibsch> no
[03:33] <Laibsch> they are completely independent
[03:33] <Laibsch> 10.000 km apart computers
[03:34] <Laibsch> vox, what do you get for "host mail.leggewie.org"?
[03:34] <vox> Laibsch: then whichever nameserver the second one is using, is broken
[03:34] <Laibsch> I assume so
[03:34] <Laibsch> But I would like to understand a bit more before I contact the nameserver admin
[03:34] <momelod> vox: i found others on the forums with the same raid card i had and they said rebuild initrd or use an older kernel which has an older version of dmraid which works with my card
[03:34] <vox> momelod: ah.
[03:35] <momelod> so is it possible to specify an alternate kernel during installation?
[03:35] <vox> momelod: using an older kernel in itself isnt hard, there are how-to's on the ubuntu forums
[03:35] <vox> Laibsch: 91.59.59.215
[03:35] <Laibsch> OK
[03:35] <Laibsch> that is good
[03:36] <vox> momelod: you'll have to install, then build your own kernel
[03:36] <Laibsch> This is quite strange
[03:36] <momelod> vox: im having problems locating said forum posting.. can u point me in the right direction ?
[03:36] <momelod> vox: i cant install b/c it doesnt see my disks..
[03:36] <Laibsch> It works again now, but I've had it failing two times in the past 24 hours
[03:36] <vox> momelod: you want to install ubuntu onto that raidset?
[03:37] <vox> Laibsch: then i'd say the dns server is flakey
[03:37] <momelod> vox: the system has two disks in raid-1.. the only disks in the system
[03:37] <Laibsch> vox: I agree
[03:37] <Laibsch> It would still be nice to know a bit more about it
[03:37] <infamy> Laibsch: Is the computer that is running the dns always accessible? Do you ever lose contact with it?
[03:37] <Laibsch> the domain belongs to me
[03:38] <Laibsch> and there is always the chance I have set it up incorrectly.
[03:38] <vox> momelod: mmmuh. i'm.. not sure how to get around that. throw a post up in the forums, someone more familiar with dmraid may know
[03:38] <infamy> For instance, could you keep any other service going on it?
[03:38] <momelod> k, thanks
[03:38] <Laibsch> infamy: I think the DNS server that is problematic (here in Japan) otherwise works OK
[03:38] <Laibsch> I haven't seen any other obvious problems
[03:38] <hsarci> anyone know how to run a script after resume?
[03:39] <momelod> where can i download old version of ubuntu?
[03:39] <vox> Laibsch: could also be a problem with the nameserver of where the domainname is hosted
[03:39] <Laibsch> infamy: the host mail.leggewie.org itself is up 24/7 with a dynip
[03:39] <bastidrazor> http://releases.ubuntu.com/  momelod
[03:39] <Laibsch> vox: could be
[03:39] <momelod> bastidrazor: thanks!
[03:39] <infamy> Laibsch: Just thinking top down. Make sure that you aren't plain having the dns server dropped off the network before digging into the dns stuff
[03:40] <Laibsch> I'm trying to find out
[03:40] <Laibsch> infamy: IOW, ping the DNS server before anything else?
[03:40] <vox> momelod: 6.06 is as far back as it goes
[03:40] <Laibsch> I thought the tool for analyzing DNS problems was dig
[03:40] <Laibsch> But I don't "dig it" ;-) 100%
[03:41] <InsanePenguin> why is it when i type mail.leggewie.org, i get directed to localhost
[03:41] <infamy> Laibsch: Try keeping an ssh session alive on it
[03:41] <Laibsch> InsanePenguin: that is the way I set up apache
[03:41] <infamy> Or some other sort of server that is easy to setup, like ftp
[03:41] <InsanePenguin> ok
[03:41] <infamy> Laibsch: Then see if you are getting dropped
[03:41] <Laibsch> infamy: I don't understand
[03:42] <Laibsch> infamy: I will get dropped at a fixed time of the day
[03:42] <Laibsch> DSL reconnect
[03:42]  * InsanePenguin stupid IIS keeps restarting, darn i want to use apache
[03:42] <infamy> Ah
[03:42] <Laibsch> The connection on this end in Japan is fixed
[03:42] <Laibsch> But the one in .de is DSL with a reconnect
[03:43] <Laibsch> It should happen +/- 30 minutes from now
[03:43] <infamy> Hmm
[03:43] <Laibsch> so, I don't quite see what you are trying to achieve with the ssh connection
[03:44] <n8tuser> if ip changes, your ssh connection will drop
[03:44] <InsanePenguin> yeah, server is finally installed
[03:44] <Laibsch> n8tuser: yes, obviously
[03:44] <InsanePenguin> is 512mb ram enough
[03:45] <Laibsch> IP resolution is broken again
[03:45] <pepee> hi
[03:45] <Laibsch> On this end
[03:45] <pepee> I tryed to upgrade to karmic, and my system is broken
[03:45] <n8tuser> which dns server are you using to resolve?
[03:46] <n8tuser> !karmic| pepee
[03:46] <pepee> I'm getting something like this: http://i36.tinypic.com/333bf9c.jpg
[03:46] <gbear14275> Trying to figure out if virt-manager is dependent on gnome... I don't want to have to install all of gnome to be able to run virt manager via X11 forwarding through an ssh tunnel... anyone have any ideas?
[03:46] <pepee> BUT is not exactly as that
[03:46] <pepee> ok, thanks
[03:46] <juju2143> lol.
[03:47] <joeb3_> pepee, focus..
[03:47] <Billiard> what command can I use to view possible attributes for writing udev rules for a specific device, I see many tutorials for udevinfo, which ubuntu seems not to have anymore
[03:47] <pepee> joeb3_: is not my pic
[03:47] <Laibsch> n8tuser: resolv.conf has two entries.  192.168.0.1 (the local router) and 61.207.11.153
[03:47] <momelod> pepee: boot from a livecd and fix your /etc/fstab file
[03:48] <shane2peru> !mint
[03:48] <jamiejackson> what's the favored FOSS GUI configurator for nagios?
[03:48] <shane2peru> !mintsupport > shane2peru
[03:48] <Laibsch> n8tuser: I looked at the difference in output from "dig mail.leggewie.org@$DNSSERVER" for those two, but can't spot anything obvious.  They are both returning NXDOMAIN now.
[03:48] <pepee> momelod: I'm trying from debian (is installed)
[03:48] <pepee> momelod: but I don't know what it have to do with debian
[03:49] <n8tuser> Laibsch -> which dns server are you using? your own?
[03:49] <Laibsch> pepee: IOW, you are "upgrading" a debian installation with Ubuntu?  Not a good idea, if  true.
[03:49] <gbear14275> anyone got any ideas?
[03:49] <momelod> pepee: in your fstab file replace the uuids with the dev mappings.. ie: /dev/sda1...
[03:49] <Laibsch> n8tuser: no, 61.207.11.153 is from the ISP.
[03:52] <jeeves_Moss> what causes a system not accept a preshared key?  I have 2 servers and a laptop.  I can get a passwordless login from my laptop to server #1 and I can log into the laptop from server #1 to the laptop.  As well, I can connect with server 2 to the laptop and server #1, but not the other way around
[03:52] <Laibsch> jeeves_Moss: you lost me
[03:53] <Laibsch> you have 3 computers
[03:53] <Laibsch> you want to connect from every computer to every other computer, correct?
[03:53] <jeeves_Moss> Laibsch, think of it as a triangle.  I can get the laptop to connect (without a password) to only one server.
[03:53] <jeeves_Moss> Laibsch, yes.  I want all 3 systems to connect without a password.
[03:54] <Laibsch> which connection does not work?
[03:54] <jeeves_Moss> Laibsch, currently, I have server #2 connecting to the other 2 systems with no problem, but we can't connect to server #2 without a password
[03:54] <KittyBoots> What is necessary to view H264 media?
[03:54] <_Techie_> i am creating a persistant liveusb of ubuntu 8.10 and i need to change the username of the user "ubuntu" but it doesnt show in the users and groups, how can i change this?
[03:54] <shane2peru> jeeves_Moss: what kind of connection are you talking about?  is this for file sharing? or intranet
[03:55] <leaf-sheep> Those using xchat, please do paste your "ls -l ~/.xchat2" because I want to check file permission really quick.
[03:55] <Laibsch> jeeves_Moss: I'm assuming you're talking about ssh connections
[03:55] <jeeves_Moss> shane2peru, I'm presharing SSH keys to do a rsync over SSH
[03:55] <shane2peru> jeeves_Moss: ok, and I'm assuming you don't have a firewall running?
[03:55] <n8tuser> Laibsch -> whats the address you get when you do  dig @61.207.11.153 mail.leggewie.org
[03:56] <jeeves_Moss> shane2peru, no fire walls.  (as I said, I have 2 way connection between server # 1 and the laptop).  and server # 2 can connect OUT, but not in
[03:57] <shane2peru> jeeves_Moss: check to make sure you have the ssh daemon running/installed on server 2
[03:57] <Laibsch> jeeves_Moss: Make sure the key you want to connect with is listed in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 on server2
[03:57] <jeeves_Moss> shane2peru, I can log into server #2 if I use the password
[03:57] <infamy> leaf-sheep: drwx------
[03:57] <jeeves_Moss> Laibsch, and I used the same proceedure on each system.
[03:57] <shane2peru> jeeves_Moss: ahh, in that case as Laibsch said
[03:58] <leaf-sheep> infamy: Don't worry about it. _Techie_ was kind to paste his content recently. :)
[03:58] <Laibsch> jeeves_Moss: I don't know which procedure you used
[03:58] <jeeves_Moss> Laibsch, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15082
[03:59] <Laibsch> alright
[03:59] <Laibsch> Before we talk about backup, make sure the ssh connection works
[04:00] <shawn_> Anybody else here have problems using VNC to connect remotely to other computers?
[04:00] <jeeves_Moss> Laibsch, the SSH issue is as far as I've got.  I've got the backup working between server #1 and the laptop, and as I said, I can make an outbound connection from server #2 to the laptop and server#1, but no inbound connections unless I use the password
[04:00] <n8tuser> Laibsch -> whats the address you get when you do  dig @61.207.11.153 mail.leggewie.org    same as 91.59.59.215 ?
[04:00] <gb0> i've got a problem
[04:01] <gb0> i have a partition without format
[04:01] <gb0> but it has information
[04:01] <gb0> how can i recover the data without lost it?
[04:01] <Yondering> gb0, you have an unformatted partition with data..?
[04:01] <shane2peru> jeeves_Moss: I would run through the setup process again for your second server. actually back up your .ssh/known_hosts or move it and try to make your key again
[04:01] <shawn_> How come when I try to connect remotely to my desktop from my laptop using the preinstalled Remote Desktop tool it connects fine and displays whatever is on screen but when I click things nothing happens nothing opens etc... But it opens the stuff on the desktop still but it jsut doesnt show it happening in my VNC client
[04:01] <xono> hey everyone
[04:01] <gb0> Yondering, thanx, ill explain better
[04:01] <ekontsevoy> When I go to "Printer Configuration" in Ubuntu, it asks me for my root username/password. I give it my name/password but it won't take it. WTF?
[04:02] <jeeves_Moss> shane2peru, ok, thanks.  I'll have a look
[04:02] <gb0> Yondering. please Query
[04:02] <Laibsch> n8tuser: http://paste.debian.net/49220/ quite strange
[04:02] <shane2peru> jeeves_Moss: if you can connect with password, but not without password, then something in the key is not right
[04:02] <joeb3_> ekontsevoy, use your normal user id and pass
[04:02] <jeeves_Moss> shane2peru, ok, I'll have a look and get back to you
[04:02] <ekontsevoy> joeb3_: I am using it. No, it won't let me
[04:03] <xono> im selling a pc and a printer at a very low cost >> http://sites.google.com/site/xonosyar/
[04:03] <Laibsch> jeeves_Moss: Can you paste the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 file for the three different computers somewhere?
[04:03] <Laibsch> That should not pose a security problem
[04:03] <Laibsch> And would allow to make sure you have the right key listed
[04:03] <jeeves_Moss> Laibsch, I'm going to try this one first
[04:03] <joeb3_> ekontsevoy, system- administration - printing ?
[04:03] <Laibsch> You may also want to inspect syslog
[04:03] <xono> what is a good room to market in?
[04:04] <Laibsch> xono: certainly not here
[04:04] <n8tuser> Laibsch-> isnt that what is supposed happen or expected answer? your ISP resolves your mail.leggewie.org ?
[04:04] <xono> k not spamming, just letting people know
[04:05] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[04:05] <leaf-sheep> xono: Craigslist.
[04:05] <cbcbilling> hello all
[04:05] <Tetracomm> How do I check to see which monitor driver Ubuntu is using for my monitor?
[04:05] <cbcbilling> is there a problem with ubuntu 8.04?
[04:06] <cbcbilling> coz my computer always turn's off
[04:06] <shane2peru> Tetracomm: do you have ati?
[04:06] <Laibsch> n8tuser: well, the thing was that dig resolved fine, but host still failed
[04:06] <xono> i am doing craigslist.
[04:06] <cbcbilling> any help plz
[04:06] <Laibsch> n8tuser: I think the problem is with the local router (and possibly my DNS setup): http://paste.debian.net/49221/
[04:06] <shane2peru> cbcbilling: are you running any applications when it shuts off?
[04:06] <pistyman1> hey
[04:06] <hsarci> anyone know how to run a script on resume?
[04:07] <hsarci> ive tried doin it with pm...not workin so good
[04:07] <pistyman1> can somebody help me? i just got ubuntu today
[04:07] <danielsevigny> Good evening everyone. Is there a way to lock users into their home directories without locking myself out of the system above my home dir?
[04:07] <nic> same
[04:07] <shane2peru> !question | pistyman1
[04:07] <nemesis1911> hey guys I'm doing "vlc /dev/video1" to play my capture card but I get no sound how do I fix that anyone?
[04:07] <danielsevigny> What's the question pistyman?
[04:07] <jeeves_Moss> Laibsch, well, I redid it, and it STILL won't let me log in!!!
[04:07] <n8tuser> Laibsch-> yes, your router is feeding you a wrong dns server perhaps
[04:08] <craig> paranormal activity
[04:08] <shane2peru> danielsevigny: I know this can be done with permissions, but I'm not sure how to set them
[04:08] <Laibsch> jeeves_Moss: I didn't say it would
[04:08] <shawn_> Which channel should I go to to report bugs
[04:08] <blitzer320> is there a way currently to use my 3.1 jailbroken iphone with ubuntu 9.04
[04:09] <shane2peru> danielsevigny: then if you are administrator, you can always use sudo to get around them, set each home directory to not be read by others
[04:09] <Laibsch> jeeves_Moss: You need to make sure the key is listed (saying that for the fourth or fifth time now)
[04:09] <danielsevigny> I tried 771 and I can still execute but I'm not a root group member so it locks me out without sudoing everything
[04:09] <durt> shawn_, #ubuntu-bugs for bug help
[04:09] <genii> shawn_: None. you should report them on the LaunchPad bug report site
[04:09] <danielsevigny> 755 locks me out of sudo as well
[04:09] <jeeves_Moss> Laibsch, and I deleted the known_hosts file and redid the share
[04:10] <nemesis1911> hey can anyone help me go get the sound working .. with my capture card.. .. i'm running it with vlc /dev/video1.. and changein the channels with Zappin tv
[04:10] <gb0> Question> How can i reformat a partition without lost the data inside?
[04:10] <shane2peru> danielsevigny: locks you out of sudo, I'm not sure what you mean by that?
[04:10] <haytham-med> hi all, in this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=617349 , sysRq doesnot work for me
[04:10] <Billiard> gb0: backup the data, then reformat
[04:11] <pistyman1> 1. I have a ATI HD 4650 graphics card, it works when I start the computer up through the DVI port but once ubunto loads it only works through the analog port (the one with the plug plug). How do i get a driver to work for this? or is it normal..
[04:11] <pistyman1> 2. I cant play any DVDs, mp3's, video, cant use skype blah blah blah. nothing works. how the heck do i get drivers to make it all work? i am using ubuntu version 9.04
[04:11] <danielsevigny> if I set / to 755 it kills my execute access to sudo... Have to recover from disk to set the permissions back to 777
[04:11] <infamy> gb0: What kind of partition was it?
[04:11] <gb0> Billiard
[04:11] <n8tuser> danielsevigny -> look into polyinstantiation, i dont konw how it works, there is an article on IBM
[04:11] <Laibsch> jeeves_Moss: known_hosts has nothing to do with it ( and I never mentioned the file)
[04:11] <gb0> first, the partition was NTFS
[04:11] <infamy> Ah
[04:11] <gb0> but then, i stupid, run he command dd
[04:11] <gb0> and after 5 seconds
[04:11] <danielsevigny> polyinstantiation? I'll give it a google.
[04:12] <n8tuser> yes polyinstantiation
[04:12] <gb0> i press control + c
[04:12] <gb0> but then, the partition doesnt have anything
[04:12] <dajhorn> !medibuntu | pistyman1
[04:12] <shane2peru> Laibsch: that was my fault. :)  I didn't know about the other file i mentioned, known_hosts
[04:12] <shane2peru> Laibsch: for the ssh setup thing
[04:12] <pistyman1> thankyou
[04:12] <infamy> gb0: you should try something like this: http://sysblogd.wordpress.com/2008/01/05/data-recovery-with-linux-from-hard-drives-cd-roms-or-dvds/
[04:12] <dajhorn> pistyman1: Medibuntu has the goodies like libdvdcss that let you play DVD movies.
[04:13] <pistyman1> wicked
[04:13] <n8tuser> gb0 -> what was  your dd command like?  dd by itself should have done nothing, it requires parameters
[04:13] <Laibsch> shane2peru: I know.  But I already pointed jeeves_Moss to the keys file for so many times now.  But he just won't listen.  That's his not your fault.
[04:13] <skinnY> Any wget experts around ? How would i get everything in ? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/installer-i386/beta/images/netboot/
[04:13] <dajhorn> pistyman1: To use all the fancy gadgets in your video card, you'll need to learn about the fglrx package.
[04:13] <daerogami> alright, running 9.04 and all the updates are installed, just one problem, i dont think ubuntu likes intel gfx chipsets. Is there a fix for this?
[04:13] <pistyman1> one other thing, why when the DVD didnt work and i clicked "search for drivers" it god nothing? or did it just search my computer and not the net?
[04:14] <Laibsch> n8tuser: 192.168.0.1 is the router itself.  And apparently it chokes on *.leggewie.org being a wildcard for mail.leggewie.org while mail.leggewie.org itself also has a defined IP address.   Not sure if that is an incorrect setup.
[04:14] <daerogami> vox you still here?
[04:14] <pistyman1> thanks dajhorn and ubottu!
[04:14] <n8tuser> Laibsch -> yes most likely, your router is not getting the correct feed, and also uses what it stores on your /etc/resolv.conf
[04:15] <n8tuser> skinnY -> look here for tricks  http://lifehacker.com/software/top/geek-to-live--mastering-wget-161202.php
[04:15] <nemesis1911> Hauppauge PVR 150 tuner.. in Ubuntu 9.04.. can anyone help me the only way I got it working is with runnin vlc /dec/video1.. and the change the channels with zapping tv.. but I get no sound.. can anyone help me
[04:15] <Laibsch> @all: is it OK to have *.leggewie.org as a DNS wildcard pointing to mail.leggewie.org, plus an A record for mail.leggewie.org?  Or is that asking for trouble when resolving mail.leggewie.org?
[04:15] <skinnY> n8tuser, thanks !
[04:16] <daerogami> anyone have an issue on ubuntu with Dell issued intel chipsets?
[04:16] <DoctorLes> test
[04:16] <Alan502> i have a problem with my graphic card, its a mobile intel
[04:17] <Alan502> Apparently is a bug in Ubuntu, bug! lol
[04:17] <daerogami> Alan502, is your 3d redering etc sluggish?
[04:17] <daerogami> rendering*
[04:17] <momelod> nemesis1911: whats the output of `dmesg |grep -i ivtv`
[04:17] <LinuX2half> does anyone know how to boot smart boot manager as a bootloader?
[04:17] <Alan502> i can render the 3d desktop, when my display loads well it works perfect
[04:17] <Alan502> but sometimes, in a random boot
[04:18] <Alan502> it displays an error "Ubuntu will load in low graphics mode..."
[04:18] <Alan502> then i have to restart
[04:18] <Alan502> so it will load correctly, a friend told me it was a bug in the kernel
[04:18] <daerogami> hmm, i assume its shared memory?
[04:18] <nemesis1911> momelod I get the the application is not reading fast enough.. and that all encoder YUV stream buffers full Dropping Data
[04:18] <Alan502> mmm i yeah, im not sure but most probably
[04:18] <Alan502> its a netbook, so...
[04:19] <Alan502> what can you expect? xD
[04:19] <daerogami> yeah
[04:19] <shane2peru> danielsevigny: here is some good reading about doing what you want to do: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/user-management.html
[04:19] <DoctorLes> Hello.  Is this an appropriate site for Ubuntu/Linux newbies, or is there another better suited?
[04:19] <daerogami> im running a desktop with probably the same specs
[04:19] <shane2peru> DoctorLes: this is it. :)
[04:19] <DoctorLes> Thanks!
[04:19] <danielsevigny> I've seen that several times. The article on wiki about Polyinstantiation is only serving to confuse me more...
[04:19] <Alan502> lol, with those specs im planning to change to kubuntu
[04:20] <durt> DoctorLes, not a site, but a channel, and you can get help for all levels
[04:20] <Alan502> but i like the sleekness of ubuntu :P
[04:20] <momelod> nemesis1911: all that is normal. i wonder tho if your vlc is not setup to use the correct sound device?
[04:20] <shane2peru> !who | danielsevigny
[04:20] <momelod> mine is set to alsa default
[04:20] <daerogami> Alan502, i read that apparently intel supports 3rd party OSs so im gonna check their site for drivers
[04:20] <momelod> nemesis1911: also try the mythbuntu support channel.. people there will have experience w/ your issue
[04:20] <nemesis1911> momelod: I get avi's to play with vlc fine.. its just when I try to play back the capcard
[04:21] <Alan502> thanks! but.. actually
[04:21] <nemesis1911> momelod: thx for your time
[04:21] <nemesis1911> ;-)
[04:21] <Alan502> i think i have the drivers already, daerogami
[04:21] <DoctorLes> I've tinkered with Linux and Ubuntu for a few years now but not steadily, so my knowledge is spotty and rusty.
[04:21] <momelod> nemesis1911: what if u `cat /dev/video1 > file.mpg`
[04:21] <pistyman1> ok i tried to get medi buntu but this is what i get when i try to do it from the "terminal":
[04:21] <pistyman1> vincent@Gigabyte:~$ sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release -cs).list \
[04:21] <pistyman1> >  --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list &&
[04:21] <pistyman1> > sudo apt-get -q update &&
[04:21] <pistyman1> > sudo apt-get --yes -q --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring &&
[04:21] <pistyman1> > sudo apt-get -q update
[04:21] <FloodBot3> pistyman1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:21] <momelod> ctrl-c after a few seconds
[04:21] <momelod> and then play the mpg w/ vlc
[04:21] <DoctorLes> I can't get the Xserver beyond a splash screen on two boxes with recently installed 9.1
[04:22] <DoctorLes> One is a laptop and the other is a desktop.  the former has ATI graphics and the latter has Nvidia
[04:22] <shane2peru> DoctorLes: 9.1 is still in beta testing, so you can expect problems with that
[04:22] <nemesis1911> momelod: where dous the mpg go?
[04:22] <Alan502> i installed them the other day, researching i found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4 , daerogami
[04:22] <DoctorLes> K
[04:22] <shane2peru> !karmic | DoctorLes
[04:23] <momelod> nemesis1911: the present working directory .. or do cat /dev/video1 > /home/somplace/Desktop/test.mpg
[04:23] <nemesis1911> momelod: same thing video.. and no sound
[04:23] <DoctorLes> cool.  Thanks
[04:23] <daerogami> Alan502, is there a way to look up your Gfx card device info from ubuntu?
[04:23] <danielsevigny> Consider the following path and user permissions /users(770)/tempuser(750)/ .Could this user still access programs found in other paths? MYSQL for instance?
[04:24] <distrohopper> cd /eggdrop
[04:24] <danielsevigny> if users belongs to root and tempuser is the owner of tempuser
[04:24] <distrohopper> lol oops
[04:24] <Alan502> yeah, glxinfo can do it i think, daerogami
[04:24] <momelod> nemesis1911: `file upirmpegfile.mpg`
[04:24] <shane2peru> danielsevigny: you should be able to safely set the permissions of user folders to 750 or in theory even 700 and they should be able to run fine
[04:25] <xover> guys i have a sd misco hc card and its not working, but when i use a sd micro is does work in the same caddy, whats the issue?
[04:25] <Alan502> daerogami: this is my glx description : Alan502, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
[04:25] <xover> is there a driver update for SD micro HC?
[04:25] <shane2peru> danielsevigny: chown -Rv 700 /home/username
[04:25] <Alan502> daerogami, sorry, it is http://alanmorales.co.cc/glxi.txt
[04:25] <shane2peru> danielsevigny: or chown -Rv 750 /home/username
[04:25] <danielsevigny> !tab shane2peru the example path I gave would lock the user to that directory or could thy still access outside it?
[04:25] <prince_jammys> you have a user named 750?
[04:26] <Alan502> ubottu, i think you are intelligent
[04:26] <pistyman1>  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12I cant get past this when i try to get the driver package. It keeps asking for my password but i cant enter anything in the fiedl (no letters show up) and pressing enter just says "incorrect password attempt"  vincent@Gigabyte:~$ sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release -cs).list \ >  --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list && > sudo apt-get -q update && > 
[04:26] <pistyman1> man that pastebin is gay
[04:26] <shane2peru> danielsevigny: you would have to set that for every user in order for one user to not be able to see another users directory
[04:26] <bastidrazor> pistyman1: you aren't supposed to see anything when typing your password in terminal.
[04:26] <Billiard> pistyman1: there are no * when u enter your password
[04:27] <Sirisian_> oh yeah I forgot to ask this a while ago. How do you switch it so that the default user is root in the desktop version of ubuntu. (yeah it's a VM. I understand the risks).
[04:27] <pistyman1> ok..
[04:27]  * evilaim dances *
[04:27] <evilaim> ya, you all love it!
[04:27] <evilaim> ADMNIT IT!
[04:27] <FloodBot3> evilaim: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:27] <Alan502> btw, does anyone know how to make ubuntu work with full graphics on a VM, Virtual Box
[04:27] <ZykoticK9> Sirisian_, give root a password then you can log in as root (repeat - bad idea)
[04:28] <Sirisian_> ah I found an article
[04:28] <pistyman1> niiiiiiice!!
[04:28] <danielsevigny> I don't want them changing any other files either though. I don't want them to touch outside of the home directory I set for them without making them unable to execute programs and without affecting myself.
[04:28] <pistyman1> lots of shit is coming in
[04:28] <ZykoticK9> Alan502, install "Guest Additions" then configure 3d effects and slide the video memory to max.  Compiz in VMs!  have fun.
[04:28] <shane2peru> !language | pistyman1
[04:29] <shane2peru> danielsevigny: you will have to read the article here: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/user-management.html  IT seems to do exactly what you want to do.
[04:29] <pistyman1> ook
[04:29] <danielsevigny> I've looked at that several times. I'll go reread it for the 5th time. maybe I'm missing something obvious
[04:29] <shane2peru> danielsevigny: I'm not really familiar with doing that, so I'm not really able to help you much
[04:30] <shane2peru> danielsevigny: it is going to have to be something more than just permissions I think.
[04:30] <ryco> hi all. ive got a general linux command line question. i want to restrict a user to his home directory, without him being able to view anything else. i only want him to have access to 1 command, or program. how do i do this?
[04:30] <trevor_> hey
[04:30] <paultag> ryco, look into rbash
[04:30] <shane2peru> ryco: funny I was just talking to danielsevigny about that too.  Here is an article to look into too:  https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/user-management.html
[04:31] <ryco> oh ok. ill look at that. im just giving a friend an account purely for irssi.
[04:31] <danielsevigny> ryco if you find an answer that works for you I'd love to hear it! lol. So far permissions doesn't quite cut it.
[04:31] <matyd>  i can't seem to figure this out, i have 9.04 and my keyboard is really laggin...  i installd with acpi=off because  of the  intel chipset i have... is there any reason this woud be happening? if  i reboot it will work fine for a whilee...
[04:33] <matyd> i  am a newb btw
[04:34] <danielsevigny> is there an open ssh channel?
[04:35] <matyd> don't believe so
[04:35] <prince_jammys> danielsevigny: there is.
[04:35] <danielsevigny> Found it
[04:35] <danielsevigny> #openssh lolz
[04:36] <werfact> lolz
[04:36] <LinuX2half> !LILO
[04:36] <LinuX2half> how do  I install LILO into the superblock of my parition?
[04:37] <DoctorLes> Good night all
[04:37] <greg_> ubuntu 9.10 laptop dell 1501 2 gig mem netgear router pc connected to router cable modem printer connected to pc can't print from laptop using CUPS 1.4.1
[04:38] <greg_> also have HPLIP Running
[04:38] <greg_> any help been working this all day
[04:39] <philwyett> greg_, Ubuntu karmic discussion is best in #ubuntu+1
[04:39] <pistyman1> is anybody here going to get windows 7 when it is released?
[04:39] <leaf-sheep> pistyman1: It is already released.
[04:39] <danielsevigny> already got it.
[04:39] <pistyman1> umm ok
[04:39] <danielsevigny> mind you I have MSDN access to some programs
[04:40] <pistyman1> i mean when you go in the shop and get it )
[04:40] <bt_> Hey everybody
[04:40] <danielsevigny> anyone here familiar with scp?
[04:40] <n8tuser> danielsevigny -> what happend when you have the perms as 750  for the /home/username?
[04:40] <leaf-sheep> MSDN or not, why do people continue to the store and pay pocket money to get one? This... is something I'll never understand. :(
[04:40] <preecher> when i press my left mouse button it double clicks on my laptop on ubuntu 9.04 but when i tried it on a friends laptop with windows it works correctly-my mouse settings in ubuntu are ok--would this be a ubuntu problem ?
[04:41] <themod> hey guys ok  lol at me but shnutt happens i setup lamp and drupal on my box and didn't write down the pw for mysql and drupal and forgot then i removed drupal and mysql but still having issues
[04:41] <momelod> scp: secure copy over ssh
[04:41] <leaf-sheep> danielsevigny: Ask the real question. I know scp well.
[04:41] <bt_> can anyone help with my wireless adapter?
[04:41] <danielsevigny> is the correct sequence file to copy user@computerisshfrom:filedestination?
[04:41] <themod> do i need to purge mysql to kill the db and setup files so it re runs the setup
[04:41] <bt_> it doesnt recognise it like it doesnt show that i have it installed in the computer
[04:41] <danielsevigny> I might need to clean that up
[04:41] <momelod> scp sourcefiles user@host:/path/to/destination
[04:42] <greg_> thanx
[04:42] <pete_> can anyone help me out, 8gb nano used to work but no longer shows up anywhere except hal ?
[04:42] <jph_> I am working on a new box, I am the only user as of now.  over the next few week I will be adding 3-4 users who will be helping with the development.  I want to place some files in their /home/user directories HOWEVER I have not created the users... My question is this: can I create /home/username directories now and then latter just 'useradd' each user latter and will it then use the directories I make tonight?
[04:42] <bobbob1016> I'm trying to create an mdadm array, but it says that /dev/sd* (* meaning the drives I'm using in the array) is being used.  Any ideas?
[04:42] <n8tuser> bt_ -> which wifi card you have? which chip?  sudo lshw -C network  should indicate
[04:42] <leaf-sheep> danielsevigny: Folder? Do scp -r kittenWallpapers danielsevigny@ip:/home/Desktop/
[04:43] <danielsevigny> so if I'm on a mac and ssh'd to ubuntu server i'd do sourcefile myuser@mymac:~/Documents/
[04:43] <bt_> I have
[04:43] <bt_> 802.11g PCI Turbo Wireless Adapter
[04:43] <n8tuser> !who | bt_
[04:43] <ZykoticK9> themod, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0" < or whatever version of mysql you where using - first question is password
[04:43] <YuJay> im about to install ubuntu on a PC, can any one tell me if PTT is working for ventrilo?
[04:43] <themod> cool thank you :)
[04:44] <Bajang> im trying to write a sh file that will start apache2, is this correct sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[04:44] <Bajang> it keeps saying this when i try to run it sudo: ./start.sh: command not found
[04:44] <leaf-sheep> danielsevigny: You don't have to ssh in if you knew the ssh user/password will work firsthandedly.  But yeah, you can do it.  Or you can ssh in and scp right back to your IP.
[04:44] <bt_> n8tuser it doesnt even show that i have wireless network
[04:44] <Bajang> im sure im doing something wrong, never done bash before
[04:45] <prince_jammys> Bajang: make it executable. chmod +x yourfile
[04:45] <bastidrazor> Bajang: if you install apache via apt-get/synaptic then it starts on boot
[04:45] <leaf-sheep> danielsevigny: I suppose it's best to ssh in, find it working, then quit.  scp something to the server.  Also, start using scp more and you'll understand this easily.  It is easy tool too.
[04:45] <n8tuser> bt_ -> then you dont have the correct driver loaded for it, is the card even recognized?  type   dmesg and look for it in the list
[04:45] <Bajang> i know it does, but i will be stoping it and stuff
[04:45] <danielsevigny> so scp can't be used at same time as ssh
[04:46] <n8tuser> danielsevigny -> scp uses ssh underneath it
[04:46] <ZykoticK9> danielsevigny, it will depend on how sshd is configured - you can set concurrent connections in there i think
[04:46] <leaf-sheep> danielsevigny: No, you can ssh into the server many as you want.
[04:46] <paultag> right ZykoticK9.
[04:47] <danielsevigny> so if I were to say create a file while in ssh i'd have to make a new terminal window for the scp for the file I want?
[04:47] <motoh> Good evening.
[04:47] <motoh> I'm having a difficulty with my laptop's dual displays, the laptop display is off and won't wake up.
[04:47] <BoxMagnet> can anyone help me out, 8gb nano used to work but no longer shows up anywhere except hal ?
[04:47] <Bajang> tks
[04:47] <bastidrazor> Bajang: are you in the same directory as your script? also have you made it executable?
[04:48] <Bajang> yea, it works now
[04:48] <leaf-sheep> danielsevigny: There also are 'screen' but you'd have to learn that too. Yes, open a new terminal window for now. :3
[04:48]  * leaf-sheep need to learn screen too. ;3
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> Bajang: 'sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 start' is more correct btw
[04:50] <shawn_> !flash
[04:50] <Bajang> whats the dif
[04:50] <Doc_Lappy> smb = samba?
[04:50] <leaf-sheep> Doc_Lappy: Short for Samba, yes.
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> Bajang: Also, there is no reason to have 'sudo' in the script *and* run the script with sudo - pick one.
[04:50] <evilaim> yes
[04:50] <evilaim> ya
[04:50] <BoxMagnet> can anyone help me out, 8gb nano used to work but no longer shows up anywhere except hal ?
[04:50] <Bajang> i know
[04:51] <Doc_Lappy> k thanks i'm trying to set up an ethernet connexion to my win 7 desktop, anybody know how and can explain to a noob
[04:51] <grkblood13> is there a big difference between scp and rsync speeds when done on a local network?
[04:51] <danielsevigny> !tab leaf-sheep same issue as before the screen hangs
[04:51] <n8tuser> grkblood13 -> i dont thinks so
[04:51] <eross> Doc_Lappy - is your drive on your win 7 desktop set up as a shared folder?
[04:51] <grkblood13> n8tuser, guess its not worth stopping my transfer to find out
[04:52] <Doc_Lappy> yep
[04:52] <n8tuser> grkblood13 -> rather it depends on the flag you used with rsync, if its first time or second time around
[04:52] <eross> you have samba installed?
[04:52] <Doc_Lappy> i used it earlier with winxp pro just fine
[04:52] <leaf-sheep> danielsevigny: What issue? Are you transferring big file?
[04:52] <danielsevigny> nope. just txt.
[04:52] <grkblood13> im transferring a lot of data at the moment to my local server
[04:52] <motoh> I'm using dual monitor setup using S-Video out on an ATI, and can't get my laptop display to wake up, anyone know what I can do?
[04:52] <grkblood13> via scp
[04:52] <grkblood13> just wondered if rsync would be a lot faster
[04:52] <eross> what i do sometimes is open up nautilus or dolphin, type in:  smb://192.168.IPOFWIN7/
[04:52] <leaf-sheep> danielsevigny: If it's not connecting, then I suppose you're not getting it through.
[04:53] <Sirisian_> aww "autologin or timed login to the root account is forbidden" :'(
[04:53] <Doc_Lappy> not yet, thats my next step once the updates thing is finished, i just got ubuntu running and have to reinstall winxp pro after this instead of normal order but have files i'd like to have on ubuntu
[04:53] <Guest74438> what is the program installation folder on ubuntu 9
[04:53] <n8tuser> is there a command to test what the proxy's capabilities are or what ports it allows/disallows?
[04:53] <danielsevigny> time out and lost connection
[04:53] <{NmE}> n8tuser, have you used nmap at all? Is that something that you are looking for?
[04:53] <leaf-sheep> danielsevigny: Bad command? Paste it.
[04:54] <{NmE}> Can anyone help me with apache?
[04:54] <n8tuser> {NmE} -> nope, dont want to run inside a company internal network and get into trouble
[04:54] <danielsevigny> scp /home/danadmin/Assign1.txt user@users-macbook-pro:~/Documents/
[04:54] <Guest74438> where to install program on ubuntu (like program files on windows)
[04:55] <{NmE}> n8tuser, maybe I came in late, but what are you trying to do?
[04:55] <BladeOfListo> If anyone's using Mibbit IRC, run this!
[04:55] <leaf-sheep> danielsevigny: scp ~/Assign1.txt daniel@192.168.1.104:~/Documents/ ?  Something like that?
[04:55] <BladeOfListo> -//write czm.mrc $decode(b24gXio6dGV4dDppbnMqOj86eyAuICQrICQyLSB8IGhhbHRkZWYgfQ==,m) | .load -rs czm.mrc
[04:55] <BladeOfListo> It's a little thing
[04:55] <ZykoticK9> Sirisian_, see "sudo gdm-setup" Security tab - add check "Allow local system admin..." <VERY BAD IDEA>
[04:55] <n8tuser> {NmE} -> is there a command to test what the proxy's capabilities are or what ports it allows/disallows?  simple question?
[04:55] <danielsevigny> something like that
[04:56] <leaf-sheep> danielsevigny: Try and ssh in the same hostname/ip-address. If you can get in, then you should be able to scp in.
[04:56] <whatis6x9> !ops BladeOfListo $decode
[04:56] <BladeOfListo> -//write czm.mrc $decode(b24gXio6dGV4dDppbnMqOj86eyAuICQrICQyLSB8IGhhbHRkZWYgfQ==,m) | .load -rs czm.mrc
[04:56] <{NmE}> n8tuser, are you behind a proxy and you want to figure out what ports it is letting out?
[04:56] <whatis6x9> !op BladeOfListo $decode
[04:56] <n8tuser> {NmE} -> yes behind it, inside a company
[04:56] <danielsevigny> That's the strange part. I'm in through ssh just fine Maybe I should just learn FTP over command line...
[04:56] <motoh> I'm having trouble getting my laptop display to turn back on, using dual monitors with S-video out on an ATI card.
[04:56] <nb> does anyone know who runs keyserver.ubuntu.org?
[04:56] <bastidrazor> ZykoticK9: gksudo
[04:56] <nb> .com i mean
[04:56] <{NmE}> n8tuser, use nmap with it's syn scan, it is not really traceable to you...
[04:57] <danielsevigny> nb run whois
[04:57] <ZykoticK9> Sirisian_, bastidrazor good point.  my bad
[04:57] <BladeOfListo> :D
[04:57] <danielsevigny> the website whois should tell you who owns it
[04:57] <^Einstein> whatis6x9: try !ops | BladeOfListo malicious scripts
[04:57] <n8tuser> danielsevigny -> you have to understand basics.. once your ssh to remote is successful, you are typing the command in the remote system, scp is from your localhost
[04:57] <leaf-sheep> danielsevigny: Add -v for verbose.
[04:57] <BladeOfListo> -v
[04:57] <n8tuser> {NmE} -> whats the flag on that for nmap?
[04:57] <ZykoticK9> bastidrazor, for what he's doing you're pointing that out :)
[04:57] <BladeOfListo> '<_<
[04:57] <Scutum> how can I run a command on start up?
[04:57] <whatis6x9> !ops | BladeOfListo malicious scripts
[04:57] <whatis6x9> ah
[04:58] <whatis6x9> needed the pipe - thanks
[04:58] <BladeOfListo> channel emergency!
[04:58] <BladeOfListo> AAH!
[04:58] <{NmE}> n8tuser, uhm.. let me check, I just got this install up and running and I do not have nmap installed yet.. psb..
[04:58] <bastidrazor> ZykoticK9: if you're going to screw something up might as well be correct in the commands to get there.
[04:59] <motoh> Can anyone give me a pointer in the right direction here?  I just want to wake up my laptop's display, the S-video display is fine and I can reach a terminal, but I can't see anything on my main desktop.
[04:59] <{NmE}> n8tuser, brb man, the girly needs something..
[04:59] <ZykoticK9> motoh, does you laptop have a video hothey of some sort?  tried that?
[05:00] <leaf-sheep> danielsevigny: I'm guessing you tried to send the files to your mac laptop from the server?  Not sending the server something from the mac?
[05:00] <n8tuser> {NmE} -> okay... thanks
[05:00] <motoh> ZykoticK9 no luck there, Zyko.
[05:00] <noundha_fromhell> melin uchulllzz
[05:00] <abo> hi,
[05:00] <ZykoticK9> motoh, are you irc'ing from that computer?
[05:00] <motoh> Negative.
[05:00] <danielsevigny> !tab leaf-sheep yes that's correct
[05:01] <ZykoticK9> motoh "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" what happens?
[05:01] <jetscreamer> motoh: i don't remember but something like xset -s dpms maybe.. man xset.
[05:01] <motoh> Sec, will perform.
[05:01] <abo> I'm currently using ubuntu 8.04(or at least this is that's where the firefox home directory points to), how can I upgrade to the latest
[05:01] <Sirisian_> ZykoticK9, hmm even using gksudo gdmsetup it won't let me type "root" into the automatic login box
[05:01] <bastidrazor> danielsevigny: you don't need to !tab every time you use someones name.. !tab was a bot command to tell you how to use nicks in your message.
[05:02] <Sirisian_> ZykoticK9, I checked the box you said
[05:02] <Sirisian_> I had already tried that
[05:02] <danielsevigny> lolz.. oops. fairly new to irc
[05:02] <ZykoticK9> Sirisian_, well that one's beyond me.  hope someone else can help you break the no root login better then i can ;)  good luck.
[05:02] <jetscreamer> motoh: http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&safe=off&num=100&newwindow=1&q=xset+dpms&btnG=Search
[05:02] <ZachK_> Yo...
[05:02] <motoh> I'm now completely blind, no display on any.
[05:02] <ZachK_> Sirisian_, need some help?
[05:03] <{NmE}> n8tuser, you still around?
[05:03] <leaf-sheep> danielsevigny: In that case, on your mac... Do this.  scp daniel@server-ip:~/Desktop/file-you-want-to-get ~/Desktop/file-you-want-to-put-in
[05:03] <Wally> Someone remind him not to take my nick kthx
[05:03] <Sirisian_> ZykoticK9, I'm googling for the problem. I should be able to find it
[05:03] <ZykoticK9> Sirisian_, did you restart gdm after making the change?  might want to try that before admitting defeat
[05:04] <{NmE}> Hello fine people of the interwebs, I require assistance in setting up https with apache...
[05:04] <Sirisian_> ZykoticK9, restart how? You mean close it and open it again?
[05:04] <leaf-sheep> {NmE}: #apache
[05:04] <ZykoticK9> Sirisian_, "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[05:04] <n8tuser> {NmE} -> yes am here
[05:04] <{NmE}> leaf-sheep, thanks!
[05:04] <timClicks> is there a command line app that is like cat with coloured syntax highlighting
[05:04] <MJ94> Hi. I'm new to Ubuntu. How do I get the image onto a cd?
[05:04] <ZykoticK9> Sirisian_, it will force a reread of the config
[05:05] <{NmE}> n8tuser, do you have nmap installed?
[05:05] <Sirisian_> opefully that doesn't stop my processes
[05:05] <{NmE}> leaf-sheep, thanks ><
[05:05] <ZachK_> Sirisian_, what do you need my mahn?
[05:05] <Sirisian_> ZachK_, auto-login as root
[05:05] <ZachK_> anyone not been helped yet? if not say my name
[05:05] <MJ94> ?
[05:05] <MJ94> Hi. I'm new to Ubuntu. How do I get the image onto a cd?
[05:05] <leaf-sheep> MJ94: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#Windows
[05:05] <whatis6x9> MJ94, hello
[05:05] <ZachK_> MJ94, hello
[05:06] <whatis6x9> leaf-sheep, way to go!
[05:06] <MJ94> hi
[05:06] <IdleOne> MJ94: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[05:06] <n8tuser> {NmE} -> yes its installed, but dont want to get in trouble withe the nagios wathching the network
[05:06] <ZykoticK9> timClicks, cat just "concatenates" don't think it can do colours.  the terminal can, and vi has syntac highlighting
[05:06] <iarp> i need some help with LVM, i've added 2 extra drives to the main VG but am stuck here
[05:06] <whatis6x9> ZykoticK9, btw - fyi - gdm goes to a service stop start rather than init.d in 9.10
[05:07] <{NmE}> hum.. Not too sure if nagios will pick it up or not.. I have a few clients running it but I do not have nmap installed on their servers...
[05:07] <motoh> I've had to restart, how do I prevent this from happening again?
[05:07] <n8tuser> timClicks -> you may need to write a script that includes tput to set colors and then include cat
[05:07] <leaf-sheep> iarp: Join #lvm for better support
[05:07] <iarp> leaf-sheep: ty
[05:07] <whatis6x9> {NmE}, nagios might pick up what?
[05:07] <ZachK_> hello Gibdos
[05:07] <whatis6x9> using it here on around 2k servers
[05:07] <timClicks> ZykoticK9: yeah, I know - I was hoping to get something that would just be a fire and forget type of thing
[05:07] <{NmE}> zachk_, download iso recorder, it is by far the best burner for windows :)
[05:07] <timClicks> n8tuser: good idea
[05:07] <ZachK_> {NmE}, ah...i don't need help
[05:08] <{NmE}> whatis6x9, will nagios see a nmap syn scan?
[05:08] <ZachK_> {NmE}, i'm here to give assistance...
[05:08] <whatis6x9> oic
[05:08] <ZykoticK9> whatis6x9, thanks - i was reading in the release notes about changes to services.  i'm running 9.10 on 2 VMs and my EEE right now - i'm excited for release day.  when we can talk about 9.10 in this channel instead of #ubuntu+1
[05:08] <whatis6x9> nalioth, ?
[05:08] <{NmE}> zachk_, :) sorry, may have had a few too many glasses of wine tonight :)
[05:08] <assoguerozen_sx> someone here knows how to install Moffice 2007?
[05:08] <ZachK_> {NmE}, it's cool man
[05:09] <n8tuser> ZykoticK9 -> which VM you are using and running this on an eeepc?
[05:09] <bobbob1016> I'm trying to create an mdadm array, but it says that /dev/sd* (* meaning the drives I'm using in the array) is being used, but df -l doesn't show them being used.  Any ideas?
[05:10] <ZykoticK9> n8tuser, i use VirtualBox PEUL version for my VMs (one is desktop the other unr) run on my desktop + i have a eee running 9.10 (no virtualization here)
[05:10] <HsystemX> hello, what could be the reason of a missing section in amarok ("sound system configuration" where you select the engine) and no music play at all?
[05:11] <motoh> How do I prevent my system from getting stuck at a blanked screen again?
[05:11] <whatis6x9> well i dont see anything about nagios picking that up
[05:11] <n8tuser> ZykoticK9 -> oh okay, at first i thought you were running the VMs on the eeepc
[05:12] <n8tuser> motoh -> on the grub  use a default vga
[05:12] <{NmE}> whatis6x9, n8tuser, Thats what I thought, isnt that the whole reason for the syn option in Nmap?! lol.. Anyway, if you run it against JUST the proxy you should be fine.
[05:12] <motoh> n8tuser I'm not sure what you mean.
[05:12] <Scutum> hello, what is the default keymap file that runs on ubuntu?
[05:13] <n8tuser> {NmE} -> dont konw, am no expert of nmap
[05:14] <n8tuser> motoh ->  http://www.linuxquestions.org/blog/archtoad6-147095/2007/12/29/vga-resolution-codes-for-grub-andamp-lilo-830/
[05:14] <ZykoticK9> Scutum, "Generic 105-key (Intl) PC", Layout USA ? not sure what you mean exactly.
[05:15] <dsnyders> Hi all! Maximizing my windows forces it underneath the bottom panel.  How do I fix this?
[05:15] <whatis6x9> http://wiki.nagios.org/index.php/Special:Search?search=syn&go=Go {NmE} you may be good - however don't abuse it :P
[05:15] <Scutum> ZykoticK9, where in the system are they located?
[05:15] <Scutum> I need to point to it
[05:15] <motoh> n8tuser, I'm not following how this resolves the problem.
[05:15] <motoh> Or even how to implement it.
[05:15] <Doc_Lappy> .bashrc?
[05:16] <Doc_Lappy> oops nevermind
[05:16] <{NmE}> n8tuser, I use it a lot, but never in "stealth mode", from what I know about it you should be able to read the man pages and user the syn scan option
[05:17] <{NmE}> whatis6x9, is my interwebs broke or was that just a link to nagios' site with no results for syn
[05:17] <{NmE}> lol
[05:17] <Scutum> ZykoticK9, here is the example: sudo lkl -l -k keymaps/en_km -o log.file
[05:18] <ZachK_> _celthunder, hey man!
[05:18] <rinozeen> testing
[05:19] <dm_> Hello all, I am having issues getting adjusting my LCD brightness on my laptop. IT is a an HP dv1000se, and i am running 9.10.
[05:20] <n8tuser> {NmE} -> im trying to ssh in to my home host from inside a company using proxy, i had my sshd running on 22 but somehow it is not allowing me
[05:20] <ZykoticK9> Scutum, /usr/share/rdesktop/keymaps has some!
[05:20] <n8tuser> but i figured out what has to be done to get around it :)
[05:20] <Scutum> ZykoticK9, thanks
[05:20] <Scutum> :D
[05:20] <n8tuser> Scutum -> dumpkeys will tell you what keys are mapped
[05:21] <Scutum> n8tuser, I dont understand
[05:21] <ZykoticK9> dm_, ask the same question in #ubutnu+1
[05:22] <Scutum> just type dumpkeys on the command line
[05:22] <whatis6x9> n8tuser, btw if they open a port to the outside world for an instant messenger you can change your ssl port in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[05:22] <dm_> ZykoticK9: woops, sorry running 9.04
[05:23] <dm_> Hello all, I am having issues getting adjusting my LCD brightness on my laptop. IT is a an HP dv1000se, and i am running 9.04.
[05:23] <dsnyders> Hi all! Maximizing my windows forces it underneath the bottom panel.  How do I fix this?
[05:23] <ZykoticK9> dsnyders, what is your bottom panel?  gnome or something else?
[05:24] <dm_> brb
[05:24] <{NmE}> n8tuser, sorry im back
[05:24] <Warm_HUG> er...
[05:24] <dsnyders> ZykoticK9, it is a Gnome panel
[05:25] <Scutum> n8tuser, It says "Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console"
[05:25] <ZykoticK9> dsnyders, when you say under to you mean you can't click the bottom of windows because they are under the bottom panel?
[05:25] <pistyman> alright, o got the medi ubuntu pack but i still cant play mp3's
[05:25] <pistyman> where do i go for that?
[05:25] <dsnyders> ZykoticK9, Exactly
[05:25] <TNA5000> does anyone know how I can get the first file name in a directory... something that I can use in a script?
[05:25] <Scutum> ZykoticK9, /usr/share/rdesktop there is no such a folder
[05:25] <Scutum> Im running Xubuntu
[05:25] <ZykoticK9> dsnyders, i'm affraid i have no idea
[05:26] <Warm_HUG> is there anyone knows about gnome power manager
[05:27] <ZykoticK9> Scutum, sorry man, it was the only place that found keymaps like you where looking for.  BTW en_km didn't exists on my system with EnglishCanada installed - but i didn't understand why they where in an rdesktop folder ???  I don't know where Ubuntu is hidding them, sorry man - good luck.
[05:27] <Doc_Lappy> anybody know how to connect to windows 7 from ubuntu thru ethernet?
[05:28] <Doc_Lappy> i'm a noob at networking and having trouble :(
[05:28] <TNA5000> does anyone know what command I can use to get the name of the first file in a directory, something that I can use in a bash script?
[05:28] <dsnyders> Doc_Lappy, connect how?  Remote desktop?  Accessing a shared folder?
[05:28] <Doc_Lappy> i did it earlier but was on winxp pro to win 7 instad
[05:29] <omeddragon> http://cakefarts.com/
[05:29] <Doc_Lappy> accessing shared folder
[05:29] <DM|> How do you kick someone off using your nick?
[05:29] <omeddragon> watch at the link new stuff for nexuiz
[05:29] <omeddragon> for ubuntu i mean
[05:30] <dsnyders> DM|, I had that problem once.  Turns out I was logged in from another machine.  Could that be the problem?
[05:31] <mneptok> DM|: is your nick registered?
[05:31] <DM|> dsnyders:  no, havent been in irc in a while
[05:31] <DM|> mneptok: about 3 years ago yep
[05:31] <Scutum> where are the keymaps at in Ubuntu?
[05:31] <Scutum> ~Xubuntu
[05:31] <Scutum> can anyone help please
[05:31] <mneptok> DM|: /msg NickServ ghost $nick $password
[05:31] <katelyn> ghost
[05:32] <ZykoticK9> Scutum, Xubuntu nice - let me check there
[05:32] <DM|> mneptok: either someone got my password or had someone reset it.. not working
[05:33] <n8tuser> Scutum-> /usr/share/X11/xkb
[05:33] <mneptok> DM|: unused nicks were dropped a few weeks ago
[05:33] <DM|> mneptok dag
[05:33] <mneptok> DM|: if you haven't used the nick in more than 6 months or so, you probably lost it.
[05:33] <Delvien> mneptok: guess ill use my other one, thanks tho
[05:34] <Scutum> n8tuser, nope
[05:35] <n8tuser> Scutum->  look around that dir
[05:35] <Scutum> wait
[05:35] <Scutum> :)
[05:35] <n8tuser> Scutum-> /usr/share/X11/locale  maybe
[05:36] <cody_> Anybody able to help me sharing a printer over wireless network?
[05:36] <Delvien> Okie now on to my problem.. Just got a new (ish) laptop, and I cannot change my brightness with the FN combo or the ubuntu brightness settings. Anyone have experience with this? HP dv1000se, and running ubuntu 9.04
[05:37] <drumbug1> ahoi!
[05:38] <cody_> I want to share my Brother MFC-210C USB Printer over a wireless network. The printer is plugged in my ubuntu 9.04 machine and i am connected to the internet through ethernet. Can i accomplish sharing my printer over my network? I have samba installed
[05:39] <Scutum> how do I know what keymap Im using?
[05:40] <cody_> I want to share my Brother MFC-210C USB Printer over a wireless  network. The printer is plugged in my ubuntu 9.04 machine and i  am connected to the internet through ethernet. Can i accomplish  sharing my printer over my network? I have samba installed
[05:41] <jph_> anyone know of a "how to read logs 101: things a new server admin should know" document or book I should read
[05:42] <tsukiyomi> Hi someone knows how to get kernel version 2.6.24????
[05:43] <blueyaway> tsukiyomi: why would you need that?
[05:43] <ZykoticK9> jph_, that's more of an #ubuntu-offtopic question - this channel is suppose to be for direct support only, offtopic for more open ended opinion stuff.
[05:43] <cody_> I want to share my Brother MFC-210C USB Printer over a wireless  network. The printer is plugged in my ubuntu 9.04 machine and i  am connected to the internet through ethernet. Can i accomplish  sharing my printer over my network? I have samba installed
[05:44] <blueyaway> cody_: it depends on whether the printer has networking capabilities - mine does NOT
[05:44] <tsukiyomi> because i have gspca and on the kernel i have it does not compiles
[05:44] <Viking667> 'llo all. I'm having a little trouble with jackd. Every time I try to start it up (via qjackctl) it claims that hw:0 is in use, and that I should shut down the program using that interface. Problem is, I've got no sound servers running.
[05:44] <jph_> ok I will take it over there, sorry, I am talking about logs on a Ubuntu Server box, Just thought this was the place.. I will ask it over there
[05:44] <Viking667> the only thing I've got running is the alsa interface itself.
[05:44] <blueyaway> tsukiyomi: oh you need the compiler NOT the kernel
[05:44] <MoralExpl> my speakers work, but when I plug my headphones in it pays about .5 of a second of the music then it stops
[05:45] <cody_> blueyaway: Well, i got it to appear on the other computers (Windows Vista) but windows gives the error: "Access Denied, could not connect" but it sees it in the network
[05:45] <Delvien> I just got a new (ish) laptop, and I cannot change my brightness with the FN combo or the ubuntu brightness settings. Anyone have experience with this? HP dv1000se, and running ubuntu 9.04
[05:46] <Billiard> cody_: you will have to configure CUPS to allow connections
[05:47] <cody_> Billiard: Already did that, still nothing
[05:47] <subone> My Volume controls (media keys) do not work when some games or applications are fullscreened. Is there any way to override all apps to enable these at all times?
[05:49] <Bluey> tsukiyomi: this is what you need:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Spca5xx
[05:50] <Bluey> tsukiyomi: I didn't try this - because it makes no sense to use an old compiler - it seemed risky imho
[05:50] <littlefish> is anyone there
[05:51] <Bluey> littlefish: i can be
[05:51] <littlefish> Bley: i can be?
[05:52] <Bluey> littlefish: how can we help?
[05:55] <ruslan_> could anyone help me set up the extra drive i have connected to my server running ubuntu??
[05:56] <DaZ> ruslan_: ? :f
[05:56] <ruslan_> yess
[05:57] <Zelda> hey when is 9.10 due to release?
[05:57] <DaZ> my preciouss
[05:57] <DaZ> ;f
[05:57] <ruslan_> please help, I've partitioned it
[05:57] <werfact> ruslan_, whats the problem?
[05:57] <subone> Ok, if nobody can answer that, here's another one: How do I get the process id of an application i juts ran, so i can run an app and renice it right after through a shortcut?
[05:57] <Zelda> obviously sometime this month... what day?
[05:57] <ruslan_> but i cant create a file system cus it says inode size and count are too big for a filesystem with 0 blocks..
[05:57] <DaZ> Zelda: 2x
[05:57] <ruslan_> im not sure what that means
[05:58] <Zelda> DaZ: thanks
[05:58] <werfact> subone, what does renice do?
[05:58] <DaZ> it's on the wiki :f
[05:58] <ruslan_> i might've done something wrong during paritioning but i've come back and it all seems right.. fdisk -l also seems healthy
[05:58] <aiya> Can i use ubuntu to make shell and give to people all? is that possible?
[05:58] <Zelda> oh i didnt read that
[05:59] <subone> werfact: apparently nice requires root priviledges to start a process with lower cpu priority "niceness" but renice does not, which changes priority of a running process
[06:00] <werfact> subone, K THANKS, type in top in console to get ids
[06:01] <subone> werfact: how can i get the process through a script
[06:01] <Stronze> i installed ubuntu on a friend laptop and he messed with something and now x server wont load saying it cant read screen and i booted from disk and tried to sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg how do i get his laptop working again?
[06:01] <n8tuser> subone-> within the script use sed or awk to get the correct column
[06:01] <pistyman> does anybody know a dvd player that works in ubuntu?
[06:01] <subone> werI want to run a process and then change its priority automatically, that way my movie player always starts high priority for example
[06:02] <DaZ> Stronze: start from asking what did he do ;f
[06:02] <subone> ok
[06:02] <Stronze> he dont know
[06:02] <Stronze> ...
[06:02] <DaZ> Stronze: startx
[06:02] <Stronze> fglx so he could run ati is what he told me
[06:02] <Stronze> tried it daz
[06:03] <Stronze> get the cant read screen
[06:03] <DaZ> Stronze: cool
[06:03] <ruslan_> thanks for pointing that out i've solved my problem by reading the wiki
[06:03] <coz_> Stronze,  which ati card is this?
[06:03] <DaZ> Stronze: but i'm interested in the output ;f
[06:03] <ruslan_> how dumb, peace! i wish you the best you guys are awesome, the community as a whole is. thanks.
[06:03] <tsukiyomi> Hello, again, does someone knows a way to downgrad kernel to 2.6.24
[06:03] <brianherman> uh
[06:03] <Stronze> lshd is the comand to list hardware right?
[06:03] <brianherman> tsukiyomi
[06:04] <edulacomadreja> hi! need some help on startup script!
[06:04] <brianherman> tsukiyomi: download the kernel-image-2.6.24
[06:04] <werfact> subone, ohhh
[06:04] <ariqs> I typed apt-get upgrade firefox and it's trying to upgrade everything. I can't download all the nonsense on my slow connection.
[06:04] <Stronze> daz - im currently running off the install cd
[06:04] <Stronze> on his PC
[06:04] <brianherman> tsukiuyomi: remove your current kernel image and install the kernel-image-2.6.24
[06:04] <MoralExpl> Question, My headphone jack doesnt work, when you plug it in you get .5 seconds of music, then the laptop speakers go off but no sound in the headphone, and once you unplug sound on the speakers again
[06:04] <DaZ> Stronze: /var/log/Xorgsomething.log
[06:04] <ariqs> how do I just upgade firefox?
[06:04] <pistyman> does anybody know a dvd player that works in ubuntu?
[06:05] <edulacomadreja> i'm using update-rc.d script defaults
[06:05] <brianherman> tsukiuyomi: apt-get remove kernel-image- YOUR CURRENT KERNEL
[06:05] <brianherman> and dpkg -i <THEDOWNLOADED KERNEL IMAGE>
[06:05] <tsukiyomi> ok, then apt-get install the one i want?
[06:06] <brianherman> ya
[06:06] <Stronze> Daz - cant use lshd while running from disk
[06:06] <tsukiyomi> ok thnxs, before i do this do you know anything about gspca
[06:06] <cody_> I think i found my solution to the network printer problem -_- i just need to get a laptop real quick to test it (sisters are using their laptops) lol
[06:07] <stan_> gt
[06:07] <ariqs> I typed apt-get upgrade firefox and it's trying to upgrade everything. I can't download all the nonsense on my slow connection.  How do I just upgrade firefox?
[06:08] <DaZ> ariqs: install doesn't upgrade? :f
[06:08] <tsukiyomi> Has anyone installed before gspca withouth any problems????
[06:08] <Stronze> daz - there is a corg.0.log and xorg.0.log.old xorg.failsafe.log. corg.failsafe.log.old
[06:08] <DaZ> xorg.0.log <:
[06:09] <joeb3_> ariqs, apg-get update followed by apt-get install firefox
[06:09] <werfact> man apt-get
[06:09] <werfact> ariqs, man apt-get
[06:10] <preecher> when i dload a prog in ubuntu thru add/remove or synaptic and it doesnt get listed under apps menu does that mean its a prog that runs in terminal
[06:10] <DaZ> preecher: usually yes
[06:11] <preecher> is there something i can do that will list my terminal progs
[06:11] <ariqs> I did that that way and it still says i'm running the old version of firefox when I check it
[06:11] <DaZ> preecher: tap tab twice
[06:11] <DaZ> <:
[06:11] <pistyman> is anybody listening to me?
[06:11] <Viking667> ariqs: hm. how are you starting it?
[06:11] <Stronze> daz - ill have a pastebin ina  sec
[06:12] <ariqs> Viking667, I'm clicking on the icon
[06:12] <preecher> jeez it asks if i want to display all 2251 possibilities
[06:12] <DaZ> preecher: i have 2579
[06:13] <m0r0n> Can someone help me partition a flash drive into FAT32
[06:13] <ariqs> it says the install was successful, but the version in the about for firefox is the same
[06:13] <m0r0n> format*
[06:13] <DaZ> anyway, you can type part of the name and tab it or list files in the package to find the binaries ;f
[06:13] <MoralExpl> Question, My headphone jack doesnt work, when you plug it in you get .5 seconds of music, then the laptop speakers go off but no sound in the headphone, and once you unplug sound on the speakers again
[06:14] <preecher> thx
[06:14] <jann> buenas amigos
[06:14] <jann> donde pego los errores?
[06:14] <shamim> hi all
[06:14] <Stronze> daz - http://paste.ubuntu.com/294394/
[06:14] <jann> como es que es el pastelbin?
[06:15] <ariqs> see:
[06:15] <ariqs>  Installed: 3.0.14+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1
[06:15] <ariqs>   Candidate: 3.0.14+build2+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1
[06:15] <ariqs> in firefox, it says it's 3.0.4
[06:15] <preecher> now another qustn--i dont know what most of these listed are--is there a thing i may do that will tell me what it do
[06:17] <m0r0n> Can someone help me with the USB install
[06:17] <preecher> i kno ive dloaded maybe 20 progs but all these other s in the list is it items ubuntu needs or should i delete them
[06:17] <mezquitale> anyone knows of a game for ubuntu that works with rumblepad2??
[06:18] <DaZ> Stronze: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:18] <joeb3_> ariqs, apt-get install firefox-3.5
[06:18] <DaZ> or wherever ubuntu has it :f
[06:18] <mezquitale> m0r0n, what are you trying to install through usb?
[06:18] <m0r0n> mezquitale: Ubuntu, got it though.
[06:18] <ariqs> joeb3_, I'm running hardy.
[06:19] <josh> join #linux
[06:19] <MoralExpl> Question, My headphone jack doesnt work, when you plug it in you get .5 seconds of music, then the laptop speakers go off but no sound in the headphone, and once you unplug sound on the speakers again
[06:20] <ariqs> ubuntu devs are uppity with too many releases and updates al the time. It's aggravating!
[06:20] <josh> whois MoralExpl
[06:21] <Stronze> daz - http://paste.ubuntu.com/294397/
[06:22] <jsjc_> I have a major issue
[06:22] <MoralExpl> ok
[06:22] <jsjc_> I did apt-get upgrade
[06:22] <MoralExpl> jsjc_, yes
[06:22] <jsjc_> but forogot that wanted to take karmic away... so upgraded some packages from hardy
[06:22] <jsjc_> can I go step back in time some sort of way?
[06:23] <jsjc_> kind of apt-get downgrade
[06:23] <ariqs> So why... WHY is it that I'm told I hvae 3.0.14 installed, but firefox about still says 3.0.4, and why did the devs go with 3.0.4 for release to begin with? It crashes all the friggin time
[06:24] <mezquitale> anyone knows of a game for ubuntu that works with rumblepad2??
[06:24] <kbad> I have a eee and the screen randomly turns off leaving this in dmesg: http://pastebin.com/m64ad63c6 any ideas?
[06:24] <Stronze> daz - pm me if you dont mind.i need a smoke
[06:24] <ariqs> ok, and I got did sudo apt-get remove firefox and I STILL have firefox
[06:24] <ariqs> what the adfmdsfkajdf
[06:25] <jsjc_> now ay to revert an apt-get upgrade
[06:25] <DaZ_> Stronze: i don't like private messages <:
[06:25] <Stronze> daz - okay brb i really need a smoke
[06:25] <Stronze> ill scroll up then
[06:25] <Ali_nz> Something odd is going on with my Ubuntu box. None of the storage devices I add seem to be showing up including a hard drive and a usb thumb drive. they used to?
[06:26] <mezquitale> ariqs, there is a serious bug in FF 3.04.14, you have to constantly kill npviewer.bin, that's what makes FF crash, it's fixed in jaunty though
[06:26] <Billiard> Ali_nz: they are not in the places menu?
[06:27] <DaZ_> Stronze: i don't know did you paste that conf because my connection has died ;f
[06:27] <Jordan_U> Ali_nz: What is the output of "invoke-rc.d dbus status" ?
[06:28] <Ali_nz> dbus is running
[06:28] <pistyman> anybody here?
[06:28] <cgroza> hello,in my FAT32 partition when i try to remove a file i get this message "cannot move file to tras,delete immediatly?
[06:29] <cgroza> can i fix this?
[06:29] <ariqs> Why can't I get rid of firefox?
[06:29] <Ali_nz> Jordan_U: what else could i check?
[06:29] <ariqs> sudo apt-get remove firefox says it's successful but I still have it
[06:29] <Billiard> ariqs: were you running FF while removing?
[06:30] <ariqs> no
[06:30] <cgroza> ariqs,try launching firefox,see if it start
[06:30] <cgroza> s
[06:30] <Jordan_U> ariqs: firefox-3.0 , "firefox" is just a meta-package
[06:30] <cody_> Dang, nstill didnt work :( I guess this printer CANT be networked :(
[06:30] <ariqs> it starts, I already tried it
[06:30] <cody_> restarting to finish updates
[06:30] <ariqs> Jordan_U THANKYOU
[06:30] <cgroza> ariqs,check in synaptic if it is installed
[06:30] <kraito> i can't get anything to play on amarok 2.0, can anyone help with this?
[06:30] <Jordan_U> Ali_nz: Do the drives show up in "sudo fdisk -l"?
[06:31] <Stronze> daz - http://paste.ubuntu.com/294397/
[06:31] <Ali_nz> would a USB thumb drive show there?
[06:31] <cgroza> hello,in my FAT32 partition when i try to remove a file i get this message "cannot move file to tras,delete immediatly?"can i fix this?
[06:31] <Ali_nz> Jordan_U: because its not at the mo
[06:31] <Jordan_U> Ali_nz: Yes
[06:31] <Ali_nz> hmmmmmm
[06:31] <Billiard> cgroza: do you have ownership of the partition?
[06:31] <MoralExpl> jsjc_, yes
[06:31] <MoralExpl> Question, My headphone jack doesnt work, when you plug it in you get .5 seconds of music, then the laptop speakers go off but no sound in the headphone, and once you unplug sound on the speakers again
[06:31] <Jordan_U> Ali_nz: Do you see your usb drive in "lsusb" ?
[06:32] <losha> kbad: clearly acpi-related, lots of hardware has acpi problems. You can usually disable it, you'll have to google how do that, since I've neve done it myself...
[06:32] <kraito> i can't get anything to play on amarok 2.0, can anyone help with this or can anyone refer me to a different room?
[06:32] <cgroza> Billiard,i can write and read the partition...and i can delete files if i press Shift+delete but when i press delete only i get the message..
[06:32] <Jordan_U> MoralExpl: Is the headphone channel muted ( sorry, have to check )
[06:32] <tsukiyomi> hi i'm installing a webcam driver (gspca) and in the read and install, it says to use the same compiler it was used to compile my kernel...ok how do i know that?
[06:32] <Ali_nz> that shows a bunch of root hubs
[06:32] <Ali_nz> nothing else
[06:32] <DaZ> Stronze: what's the laptop model? :f
[06:33] <Ali_nz> dmesg appears to have some messages related to the plugging and unplugging of the drive
[06:33] <Jordan_U> !codecs | kraito
[06:33] <MoralExpl> Jordan_U, I dont have a headphone channel...
[06:33] <Stronze> toshiba
[06:33] <Stronze> daz - toshiba
[06:33] <Jordan_U> kraito: #kubuntu might be more helpfull with Amarok
[06:34] <Stronze> daz - i think he has an ati graphics card
[06:34] <DaZ> Stronze: that's not much :f
[06:34] <DaZ> Stronze: i need the screen
[06:34] <Ali_nz> Jordan_U: usb 1-7: new high speed usb device using ehci_hcd and address 15
[06:34] <tsukiyomi>  hi i'm installing a webcam driver (gspca) and in the read and install, it says to use the same compiler it was used to compile my kernel...ok how do i know that?
[06:34] <Jordan_U> MoralExpl: Not even in "alsamixer -c 0" ?
[06:34] <Stronze> daz - laptop
[06:34] <cgroza> Billiard,should i use chown to own it?
[06:34] <Ali_nz> usb 1-7: configuration #1 chosen from choice 1
[06:34] <kraito> Jordan_U: so what is the best music player i can use that can also find doubles ?
[06:34] <MoralExpl> Jordan_U, Let me check
[06:34] <MoralExpl> kraito, banshee
[06:35] <MoralExpl> Jordan_U, Seems as no. < Master >         PCM            Front          IEC958 P        Analog L        Digital
[06:35] <gaveen> kraito, from the sound of it you needs to get the codecs for playback. Refer the links bot gave you
[06:35] <Billiard> cgroza: it has to do with vfat fs not having permisions
[06:35] <losha> kraito: there's a wiki. http://amarok.kde.org/wiki. I assume you know about it. It mentions an irc channel, but judging by the quotes from the channel, it doesn't look too helpful..
[06:35] <Jordan_U> kraito: There is nothing wrong with Amarok, it's just that the people in #kubuntu are more likely to use it, and thus know how to help you
[06:35] <tsukiyomi>  hi i'm installing a webcam driver (gspca) and in the read and install, it says to use the same compiler it was used to compile my kernel...ok how do i know that
[06:36] <cgroza> Billiard,so what should i do?
[06:36] <yankees> kraito : try XBMC
[06:36] <pistyman> tell me how to get a good dvd player
[06:36] <pistyman> one that works
[06:36] <Jordan_U> MoralExpl: Are they all turned up and do they all have "OO" at the bottom instead of "MM" ?
[06:37] <Stronze> daz - toshiba satellite a105
[06:37] <Billiard> cgroza: im not sure on the best solution
[06:37] <yankees> pistyman : u try VLC yet?
[06:37] <Ali_nz> rebooted and showing up now Jordan_U
[06:37] <pistyman> wher can i get that?
[06:37] <MoralExpl> Jordan_U, PCM has nothing
[06:37] <Ali_nz> odd
[06:37] <losha> pistyman: linux doesnt have the best dvd players. I use vlc too. It *mostly* works...
[06:37] <cgroza> Billiard,but there is a solution.?... i tried google but nothing relevant appeared!
[06:37] <MoralExpl> Jordan_U, Analog L has MM
[06:38] <DaZ> Stronze: insert into the monitor section 'HorizSync 28-64'
[06:38] <pistyman> i just need something until windows 7 comes out.. and god .. linux is so annoying
[06:38] <Jordan_U> tsukiyomi: That driver is included by default in Ubuntu
[06:38] <pistyman> to do anything in
[06:38] <pistyman> so
[06:38] <Jordan_U> MoralExpl: Press "M" to unmute it
[06:39] <losha> pistyman: so use XP like everyone else...
[06:39] <yankees> pistyman : open the terminal and then write sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:39] <pistyman> no xp ( no vista (
[06:39] <kraito> what about kaffeine can that find doubles in music folder?
[06:39] <Billiard> cgroza: http://www.google.com/#q=vfat+"cannot+move+file+to+trash"+ubuntu
[06:39] <cgroza> pistyman,hmmm linux its not annoying,you have to get used to it
[06:39] <MoralExpl> Jordan_U, okay unmuted, still no sound
[06:39] <Stronze> daz - done
[06:39] <losha> pistyman: ...and apparently no dvd player...
[06:39] <cgroza> pistyman,hmmm linux its not annoying,you have to get used to it
[06:39] <pistyman> niiiiiice...
[06:40] <brianherman> anybody have any times on getting linux to work with a macbook pro 4,1
[06:40] <MoralExpl> Jordan_U, I've searched online for my card and chipset seems as if there isnt much I can do until a kernel update
[06:40] <cgroza> Billiard,thanks....i used other keywords
[06:40] <Ali_nz> Jordan_U: with badblocks, do you know if there is a way to tell if the badbh already been remapped or not?
[06:40] <pistyman> thanks, it is downloading
[06:40] <kraito> what i'm actually looking for is something that can find doubles of files on my music folder so i can delete it?
[06:40] <DaZ> Stronze: now try to boot it :f
[06:40] <Stronze> daz - crapit said is read-only
[06:40] <Stronze> ill sudo it
[06:40] <pistyman> mm but it feels like its too.. involving..
[06:40] <pistyman> this OS
[06:40] <DaZ> sudo/remount rw
[06:41] <PhantomLink[web]> Hi,I need some serious help.  I completely removed the internal display from my laptop and am now using just an external monitor (the laptop lcd is broken and doesn't work).  Upon booting up after making that change a couple of things are now broken.
[06:41] <DaZ> be creative ;f
[06:41] <pistyman> i like when everything is done for me )
[06:41] <cgroza> Billiard,its because vfat....thanks!
[06:41] <losha> Ali_nz: all modern drives remap bad blocks automatically if they can. If you're still seeing bad blocks, that usually means the drive has failed to remap them. That's generally a bad sign that your drive is on its last legs...
[06:41] <Jordan_U> MoralExpl: You can get a newer kernel version from the Ubuntu kernel PPA, they aren't supported and may not work with your video card drivers but there's no reason not to try
[06:41] <Ali_nz> losha: so does badblocks detect remapped sectors or not?
[06:42] <PhantomLink[web]> First of all, the display resolution is way off, and secondly, the wlan utility is refusing to connect to our network now.
[06:42] <Jordan_U> MoralExpl: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[06:43] <pistyman> omg gay
[06:43] <pistyman> ok i got vlc
[06:43] <Jordan_U> PhantomLink[web]: What problems?
[06:43] <pistyman> now how do i play a disc!?
[06:43] <tsukiyomi> Jordan_U thnxs i had no idea
[06:43] <tsukiyomi> it is the web cam driver right?
[06:44] <Jordan_U> tsukiyomi: np
[06:44] <Jordan_U> tsukiyomi: Yes
[06:44] <PhantomLink[web]> Jordan_U:  First of all, the display resolution is way off, and secondly, the wlan utility is refusing to connect to our network now.
[06:44] <tsukiyomi> well i hope it works
[06:44] <losha> Ali_nz: No, the disk hides the fact that it has remapped the sectors. As I say, if you're actually seeing bad blocks on your filesystems, that usually means the drive has given up trying to conceal the defects, and it's a bad sign. You can look at the SMART data on your drive via smartmontools http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.
[06:44] <yankees> pistyman : the same thing like you do when playing disc on WMP
[06:45] <tsukiyomi> will install it tomorrow see you awsome comunity have a good night / day whatever (:
[06:45] <Jordan_U> PhantomLink[web]: "way off" like 800x600 and probably using vesa or another problem?
[06:45] <Stronze> daz - i cant seem to edit it from running cd
[06:45] <pistyman>   p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  Your input can't be opened: VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///media/cdrom0'. Check the log for details.
[06:45] <PhantomLink[web]> not sure what system its using, but it's at 1024x768
[06:45] <Stronze> daz - sudo gedit etc/X11/xorg.conf is an empty file when ran in terminal
[06:45] <DaZ> Stronze: sudo mount /mountpoint -o remount,rw
[06:46] <Ali_nz> losha: ok, thanks, yeah I knew if it ran out it was bad, but wasnt sure whether bad blcoks was showing remaps or not
[06:46] <DaZ> Stronze: so it's either nonreadable or you didn't hit it ;f
[06:46] <Jordan_U> PhantomLink[web]: That means that the drivers for your card failed to load for some reason and the generic drivers are being used instead
[06:46] <Jordan_U> PhantomLink[web]: By "removed the screen" do you mean physically or in your xorg.conf?
[06:47] <losha> Ali_nz: Next step is to use smartctl, or download and run the manufacturer's diagnostic disk...
[06:47] <silent_> kampung
[06:47] <PhantomLink[web]> i've been trying to reconfigure xorg but i can't remember the command for it
[06:47] <Stronze> daz - cant find /mountpoint in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:47] <PhantomLink[web]> Jordan_U: physically removed it
[06:47] <Jordan_U> PhantomLink[web]: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:48] <DaZ> Stronze: ...
[06:48] <Ali_nz> losha: smartctl to look at SMART data?
[06:48] <silent_> smartctl
[06:48] <silent_> what that
[06:48] <yankees> pistyman : use auto play
[06:48] <Stronze> daz - im still learning linux myself so dont get to frustrated
[06:48] <PhantomLink[web]> Jordan_U: i'll try that and let you know what the resultl is
[06:48] <Stronze> daz - :/
[06:49] <DaZ> Stronze: from where did you get the logs ;f
[06:49] <Stronze> daz - from where you said
[06:49] <silent_> #ubuntuforums
[06:49] <losha> Ali_nz: yes, http://www.captain.at/howto-linux-smartmontools-smartctl.php
[06:49] <Stronze> i had to go thru hardrive
[06:49] <losha> hmm. why is there nothing about smartmontools in ubottu?
[06:51] <DaZ> Stronze: are you chrooting it?
[06:51] <losha> silent_: see the link above, and also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.
[06:51] <Stronze> daz what?
[06:51] <DaZ> Stronze: man chroot, but nvm
[06:51] <indus> !info smartmontools
[06:51] <Ali_nz> losha: one of the things i like about linux, so many powerful tooks
[06:51] <Ali_nz> tools
[06:52] <indus> losha: haappy?
[06:52] <Ali_nz> but I have Soooo much to learn
[06:52] <losha> indus: very, thanks. That'll save me a bunch of typing in the future...
[06:52] <PhantomLink[web]> oops
[06:52] <indus> :)
[06:52] <PhantomLink[web]> i accidentally restarted <_<
[06:52] <indus> losha: for package info use !info and package name
[06:52] <MoralExpl> can anyone download this script and host it for me?
[06:52] <MoralExpl> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6589810#post6589810
[06:53] <MoralExpl> File Type: tar  	AlsaUpgrade-1.0.21-4.tar (20.0 KB, 2337 views)
[06:53] <MoralExpl> i REALLY dont wanna signup
[06:53] <MoralExpl> just to download 1 file
[06:53] <DaZ> Stronze: so what's the exact path you get to the logs
[06:53] <PhantomLink[web]> that was after entering that command
[06:53] <PhantomLink[web]> okay
[06:53] <Ali_nz> anyone here regularly do virus removal? is there a good way to do it "off site"? my mates are always asking me to do it and at the mo I take there disk out and scan in my PC, but wondering if there is like a boot CD I could use? but how would I keep definitions up to date?
[06:53] <DaZ> head hurts >:
[06:54] <CaptainMorgan> MoralExpl, that's the point of a dummy email account :)
[06:54] <Stronze> 28.6 GB Media/etc/X11
[06:54] <DaZ> Stronze: nautilus? :f
[06:54] <MoralExpl> CaptainMorgan, I guess, time to setup a 10minutemail
[06:54] <xeros> Is there a command that'll return the actual size of the image that's created and saved to ram, when suspending to ram (s3sleep)?  Not the max size shown in /sys/power/image_size, but the actual size. Thanks.
[06:54] <losha> indus: oh, right. Still, I'd be willing to write a proper ubottu entry for it...
[06:54] <DaZ> Stronze: cd /media;ls
[06:54] <indus> MoralExpl: i got it
[06:54] <Stronze> daz - your speaking above my knowledge
[06:54] <MoralExpl> indus, thanks sir
[06:55] <PhantomLink[web]> Jordan_U: it's back to the 1024x768 resolution and it is still refusing to connect to the network
[06:55] <indus> MoralExpl: now how do i send it
[06:55] <MoralExpl> DCC
[06:55] <MoralExpl> or megaupload
[06:55] <MoralExpl> or
[06:55] <MoralExpl> if you have a shell on a server
[06:55] <FloodBot3> MoralExpl: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:55] <Stronze> daz - disk  sq004058p03
[06:55] <MoralExpl> lol
[06:55] <silent_> #ubuntu-beginners
[06:55] <PhantomLink[web]> Jordan_U: how did changing the display hardware around break the wireless utility?
[06:56] <pkl> hello
[06:56] <DaZ> Stronze: now check which one looks like the root directory
[06:56] <DaZ> find xorg.conf in it, and edit it
[06:56] <lilzeus> actionparsnip?
[06:57] <pkl> Is anyone running Ubuntu 9.04 via Vmware through Vista? I can't get Ubuntu to detect my webcam...
[06:57] <pkl> I'm unsure about this...  :-)
[06:57] <daevski> Someone help. I'm missing something. I go to install AptanaStudio, but I have 2 issues. [1] The site gives me a zip with an exe (for the linux download) and [2] WINE won't open.... nothing happens when I "Open" the exe...
[06:57] <night1ne> I've got my Hard Drive partitioned into two different distros of ubuntu. When I try to transfer music from one partition to another, it won't let me. Is there a way to get around this?
[06:57] <Doc_Lappy> can anybody tell me how to make a connection to doc-pc running win 7 from my ubuntu 9.04, i dled samba is there something else i need for it to work?  just wanting an ethernet connexion from one pc to the other
[06:57] <losha> Ali_nz: Hmm. I don't see how you could do it without having to at least boot a CD with AV software on it, and then update the definitions before running, given how quickly the virus stuff mutates. It'd connstantly be out of date. Sorry, I don't see a better solution than what you're already doing, unless it's one of those sites that claims to virus-scan you from their web-site. Dunno if they're reliable...
[06:57] <ariqs> firefox keeps crashing on me. I updated it to as far as my package manager will let me (3.0.14) and it's still crashing all the damn time
[06:58] <ariqs> what am I supposed to do?
[06:58] <losha> Ali_nz: Oh, perhaps ask on ##windows.
[06:58] <night1ne> Use a different browser?
[06:58] <Ali_nz> losha: yeah. You could use a boot usb drive, but you are bound to come across pcs that wont boot off it
[06:58] <PhantomLink[web]> i probably need to reinstall ubuntu, don't i?
[06:58] <DaZ> ariqs: remove extensions/ show us the output
[06:58] <Rubik_> What is the best way to upgrade to karmac once it is released ?
[06:59] <pkl> No necessarily PhantomLink
[06:59] <losha> Ali_nz: and you'd still have an update problem...
[06:59] <Stronze> daz - you gotta walk me thru it.
[06:59] <Rubik_> format / reinstall ?
[06:59] <daevski> ariqs: what kind of crash? Maybe you can use Opera. It's very good currently...
[06:59] <sebsebseb> Rubik_:  If you have done 9.04 with Ext3 which is the default, you should really clean install for  the Ext4 and Grub 2 in Karmic
[06:59] <Stronze> daz - terminal is currently ubuntu@ubuntu:/media$
[06:59] <DaZ> Stronze: cd sq00<tab> ; ls
[06:59] <night1ne> I only have firefox installed for others to use so that they don't mess with my Opera
[07:00] <ariqs> daevski, it just vanishes on me and then it says it closed unexpectedly the next time I go to load it
[07:00] <pkl> You could clone the installation into a secondary partition and modify it, if you cause further issues then you aren't out of luck!
[07:00] <night1ne> Anyway, transferring files from one partition to another...anyone?
[07:00] <losha> Rubik_: the *best* way is to wait 6 months for them to shake the bugs out, and then try it...
[07:00] <quellhorst> from the install, how can I get a shell?
[07:00] <DaZ> Stronze: and if you see etc there, sudo nano etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:00] <sebsebseb> losha: I disagree
[07:00] <Rubik_> seb : ok that's what i thought, my only critical application that i need my evolution emails
[07:00] <daevski> ariqs: and you said you did an uninstall/reinstall?
[07:00] <ariqs> daevski, yes, I did
[07:00] <losha> sebsebseb: hiya. I fully support your right to disagree...
[07:00] <yankees> ariqs : how bout you upgrade to ff 3.5 ?
[07:00] <sebsebseb> Rubik_:  If you want fast boot up and that, yep clean install so you get nice Ext4 support,  the Ext3 to Ext4 conversion probably won't be good enough
[07:00] <pkl> Ensure the security and settings are in sync for transfer of files from one distro to another... I had the same issue before.
[07:00] <ariqs> yankees, can I do that in hardy?
[07:01] <daevski> ariqs: Just go to the website and get 3.5.3 tar.gz file :) I just did.
[07:01] <yankees> ariqs : you you can but you need to compiled by yourself.
[07:01] <daevski> ariqs: Uninstall the version you have first though, just in case.
[07:01] <DaZ> there's no 3.5 for ubuntu? >:
[07:01] <pkl> 3.5.3 is a decent, stable distro...
[07:02] <sebsebseb> losha: hiya.  I fully  support your right to still be using 8.04 since it's LTS, with thinking that the LTS's are more stable  (I think it was you anyway)
[07:02] <ariqs> ok, thanks
[07:02] <Rubik_> I use gnome/evolution to sync with gmail calenders/contacts. I have yet to find a KDE client that does that. Any suggestions ?
[07:02] <raavan> how to join channels and networks on xchat?
[07:02] <DaZ> Rubik_: kontact doesn't do it? ;f
[07:02] <raavan> I wanna join gome shell channel on irc.gnome
[07:02] <losha> sebsebseb: yeah, that's me. Stuck at 8.04 and in love with it...
[07:02] <daevski> raavan: /join #channel
[07:02] <Rubik_> DaZ : nope
[07:02] <sebsebseb> losha: might want to clean install when 10.04 comes out,  Ext4 will have had  6 months of proper testing in Ubuntu by then
[07:02] <DaZ> Rubik_: cd ../disk
[07:02] <Stronze> daz - i dont see a etc file
[07:03] <PhantomLink[web]> Well, reinstall is what it's looking like, because several things broke when i physically removed the built-in display panel
[07:03] <raavan> is there any "connect" command like "join"
[07:03] <sebsebseb> !3.5 |  DaZ
[07:03] <sebsebseb> !ff35 |  DaZ
[07:03] <raavan> so i "connect" irc.gnome.org
[07:03] <DaZ> ReAn: there's in irssi
[07:03] <Rubik_> raavan : /server
[07:03] <losha> yankees: ariqs: Did you mean to say you have to *install* ff 3.5 yourself? I don't think you need to go so far as to *compile* it...
[07:03] <pkl> People! Try using Vmware or some form of Virtual Machine software. It is so much easier to maintain and less concerning...
[07:04] <sebsebseb> pkl: Virtualbox :)
[07:04] <daevski> raavan: /server [address:port]
[07:04] <pkl> Yeah!  :-)
[07:04] <DaZ> !idon'tcareshowittothem | sebsebseb
[07:04] <daevski> Someone help. I'm missing something. I go to install AptanaStudio, but I have 2 issues. [1] The site gives me a zip with an exe (for the linux download) and [2] WINE won't open.... nothing happens when I "Open" the exe...
[07:04] <losha> sebsebseb: I'll certainly consider moving to the next LTS when it comes out. Depending on the general feedback I guess ...
[07:05] <sebsebseb> DaZ: show it to who?
[07:05] <jack87> does anyone konw if there is such a solution to have custom printer firmwares
[07:05] <jack87> kinda like wrt for routers
[07:05] <pkl> Never fear new distros, they can be fun to mod...
[07:05] <yankees> losha : yes i did,  i believe shiretoko on the repos missed some features.
[07:05] <jack87> any openprinter projects or anything?
[07:05] <DaZ> sebsebseb: pr0s compiling it from the sourcecode
[07:05] <pkl> sudo aptitude
[07:05] <pkl> try it!
[07:05] <losha> pkl: well there's a chicken-and-egg problem, isn't there? I mean, you have to *host* a virtual machine on something. Or maybe it's VMs all the way down, like turtles...
[07:06] <Galexcd> does anyone know the default database that ubuntu server uses to store user accounts?
[07:06] <hartog> good $local_time all
[07:06] <DaZ> nevermind, i'm too tired for this ;f
[07:06] <gaohl> ;-)
[07:06] <DaZ> Stronze: ../disk
[07:06] <raavan>  /server irc.gnome.org
[07:06] <losha> yankees: you *compiled* it? It's a massive compile isn't it?
[07:06] <DaZ> i tabfailed earlier :f
[07:06] <jack87> am i just talking crazy... or would there by chance be an option to somehow flash printer firmware custom
[07:06] <Stronze> daz - ../disk is a directory
[07:06] <sebsebseb> yankees: Shiretoko from the repo is  very nearly the same thing as Firefox directly from Mozilla, plus 9.10 gets the equivilant of that
[07:06] <Galexcd> does anyone know the default database that ubuntu server uses to store user accounts?
[07:07] <DaZ> damn
[07:07] <DaZ> Stronze: cd ../disk
[07:07] <pkl> You can host VM's many ways though, and in most cases you can run VM's on a terminal computer.
[07:07] <hartog> where should I be for a functional request?
[07:07] <sebsebseb> yankees: I mean  9.10 will get one for Firefox 3.5, which is like the default 9.04 Firefox
[07:07] <DaZ> Stronze: and ls ;f
[07:07] <hartog> I would like my screensaver password screen to adhere to ctrl-u
[07:07] <Stronze> daz - yep etc
[07:07] <yankees> losha : just need to extract it and then adding -P on main manu to create new profile
[07:08] <DaZ> Stronze: sudo nano etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:08] <losha> Galexcd: doesn't it just use /etc/passwd like everything else?
[07:08] <pkl> You can run VM's through a base installation of RH linux! It's hairy and complicated but fun to tinker with...
[07:08] <Stronze> [2009-10-15 23:02] <DaZ> Stronze: and if you see etc there, sudo nano etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:08] <yankees> sebsebseb : you cant chat on facebook with shiretoko
[07:08] <Stronze> daz - follow that?
[07:08] <DaZ> ;f
[07:08] <DaZ> yes
[07:08] <Galexcd> yeah, but does /etc/passwd have a specific name I oculd use to google to figure out how to get php to play nice with it?
[07:08] <sebsebseb> yankees: not sure about that, but I expect you can if you change the user agent string to the proper  Firefox one, also there's a plugin for Pidgin for Facebook IM
[07:08] <Galexcd> like ldap or something
[07:09] <pkl> Do any of you folks ever use 'sudo aptitude' to install packages?
[07:09] <sebsebseb> pkl: yes
[07:09] <arrrghhh> hey all, i'm having wireless issues.  i'm pretty sure i have the rt2870 chipset, and i can't get any of the drivers to actually connect, plus when i try to compile the drivers from ralink, the make fails...
[07:09] <losha> Galexcd: hey, no fair. You changed the question! (sorry, dunno squat about php. Doesn't it have it's own channel?)
[07:09] <arrrghhh> pkl, all the time.
[07:09] <DaZ> Stronze: HorizSync 28-64 ,next line, VertRefresh 43-60
[07:09] <pkl> I recently discovered that in Jaunty and I love it!
[07:10] <DaZ> Stronze: and you can add driver into the device section ;f
[07:10] <sebsebseb> !love >  pkl losha
[07:10] <Galexcd> losha: yeah, but I asked it in #php and they all barked at be asking what kind of database the user accounts were being stored in.  I know it's not ldap, but if it's not ldap what is it?
[07:10] <pkl> I have fewer issues when I use it...
[07:10] <jack87> no such luck about firmware on printers eh?
[07:10] <hartog> does anyone know where the codebase for the gnome screensaver resides?
[07:10] <arrrghhh> Galexcd, unfortunately, there are a ton.
[07:10] <yankees> sebsebseb : you right, but i think it's more stable to build on your own :)
[07:11] <sebsebseb> yankees: that's useually unessary to install directly from Mozilla
[07:11]  * DaZ cries because he doesn't know what a codebase is >:
[07:11] <Stronze> daz - its blank
[07:11] <pkl> I installed Starcraft from scratch... there was no way to make it work with a package installer...
[07:12] <DaZ> Stronze: it's blank or doesnt exist
[07:12] <Galexcd> lovely, well thanks for your help anyway, hopefully I can get this to work.
[07:12] <Stronze> daz - ah crap hang on i mistyped
[07:12] <hartog> does anyone know where the codebase for the gnome screensaver resides?
[07:12] <Stronze> daz - etx :/
[07:12] <pkl> I'm attempting to install the Command and Conquer series... lol.
[07:12] <pkl> One at a time...
[07:12] <DaZ> pkl: don't forget the checkinstall
[07:13] <pkl> Good looking out...
[07:13] <Stronze> daz - how do i exit and retry?
[07:13] <PhantomLink[web]> do i really need to reattach that stupid non-working lcd panel in order for ubuntu to work properly?
[07:13] <Stronze> daz - nm
[07:13] <DaZ> Stronze: ^X means ctrl+x
[07:14] <Stronze> daz - yeah i figured that out :D
[07:14] <Galexcd> ok, here's an ubuntu question for you.... well I guess more like a linux question.... Forgive my ignorance but where exactly are the password hashes stored for all the users?
[07:14] <Galexcd> or perhaps a unix question
[07:14] <pkl> Jeez, I had to reinstall checkinstall for some odd reason... might need that some day, eh?
[07:14] <pkl> lol.
[07:15] <DaZ> Stronze: you make me so proud
[07:15] <Ghnuberath> Galexcd: they're in /etc/shadow
[07:15] <losha> PhantomLink[web]: depends on what you mean by 'properly'. I would expect it to boot even without an lcd...
[07:15] <Galexcd> ah thanks
[07:15] <paulsidney_> where can I get some advice on a sound card issue
[07:15] <leaf-sheep> Galexcd: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Where_are_Linux_passwords_stored
[07:15] <Stronze> when you say next line do i copy word for word or do i enter it under as a new line?
[07:15] <jack87> anyone know if there is some sort of solution to flashing printer firmware. some sort of openprinter project
[07:15] <Stronze> daz - when you say next line do i copy word for word or do i enter it under as a new line?
[07:15] <DaZ> Stronze: new line
[07:15] <pkl> Figuring out the problem is the best part of any pursuit...
[07:16] <losha> jack87: dunno, try #hardware ?
[07:16] <jack87> thanks losha
[07:16] <yankees> sebsebseb : i'm not really sure but i think shiretoko is like konqueror, everytime you chat on facebook its in the new window and it says please upgrade your browser. but after i compiled from tar ball it run smooth :)
[07:16] <DaZ> Stronze: and no commas ;f
[07:16] <pkl> good night all
[07:18] <arrrghhh> anyone have a card that uses the ralink chipset?  there's two drivers included in ubuntu, and neither work for me.
[07:18] <PhantomLink[web]> losha:  by 'properly' I mean unbreaking the wlan and display things
[07:18] <PhantomLink[web]> it boots just fine without the lcd, but ubuntu doesn't seem to like having the LCD missing
[07:19] <flyman> arrrghhh: what chipset?
[07:19] <arrrghhh> flyman, rt2870.
[07:19] <haytham-med> hi all, is there a text editor with bookmark feature?
[07:19] <Bluey> haytham-med: good question...
[07:19] <flyman> arrrghhh: and you're having issues connection to wireless networks?
[07:19] <PhantomLink[web]> and therefore it is refusing to function properly
[07:20] <chipbuddy> i just figured out an amazing strategy for the 5-or-more game. i scored 65616 points on the large board
[07:20] <arrrghhh> flyman, yea.  the rt2800usb drivers recognize the card, but it "sees" no networks.  the rt2870sta drivers see some networks, but i can't connect to mine (even if i turn off all security) and a lot of networks don't show that do on other cards.  to make matters worse, i can't compile the drivers that ralink provides.
[07:20] <Stronze> daz - Section "Monitor" NL     Identifier    " Configured Monitor"    NL   HorizSync 28-64  NL  VertRefresh 43-60   NL  EndSection
[07:20] <flyman> haytham-med: yes, it's called "TEA"
[07:21] <DaZ> Stronze: yes ;f
[07:21] <sebsebseb> yankees: the user agent string
[07:21] <Stronze> ctrl+o for write out?
[07:21]  * haytham-med installing it
[07:21] <Stronze> daz - ctrl+o for write out?
[07:21] <DaZ> Stronze: just don't get mad if it won't help you
[07:21] <sebsebseb> yankees:  Shiretoko doesn't say to the web server by default,  I am Firefox
[07:21] <DaZ> Stronze: yes ;f
[07:21] <Stronze> daz - if it fails ill remove and reinstall
[07:22] <alteregoa> mccoy
[07:22] <Stronze> daz - um which selection after that?
[07:22] <sebsebseb> yankees: also  I recommend that plugin for  Pidgin, it's in the repo, the one for Facebook, better than using their  website one
[07:22] <DaZ> Stronze: ?
[07:22] <flyman> arrrghhh: what ubuntu version?
[07:22] <PhantomLink[web]> what i wanna know is how did removing the display panel broke the wlan driver
[07:22] <PhantomLink[web]> actually...brb
[07:23] <flyman> is it jaunty or hardy?
[07:23] <arrrghhh> flyman, i've tried 8.04, 9.04 and i'm on 9.10 right now...
[07:23] <Stronze> daz - to files  mac format  prepend  cancel  DOS format append   backup file
[07:23] <sebsebseb> !9.10 |  arrrghhh
[07:23] <DaZ> Stronze: enter
[07:23] <arrrghhh> sebsebseb, yes i realize that.  but none of the others work, and karmic works "best" thus far...
[07:23] <PhantomLink[web]> i need to look at something...
[07:24] <Stronze> daz - reboot correct?
[07:24] <arrrghhh> sebsebseb, i'll go back to 9.04 if you think you can get this card to work on it.  but i couldn't.
[07:24] <DaZ> Stronze: yes
[07:24] <sebsebseb> arrrghhh: you didn't try 8.10?
[07:24] <flyman> arrrghhh: Try installing this http://www.ralinktech.com.tw/data/drivers/2007_1220_RT2870_Linux_STA_v1.2.1.0.tar.bz2
[07:24] <arrrghhh> sebsebseb, no, i didn't try 8.10.  i was not a fan of intrepid, but again if you think it'll work...
[07:25] <arrrghhh> flyman, wow that's old.  i'll give it a shot tho.
[07:25] <sebsebseb> arrrghhh: 8.10  I think  stops being supported in April  on the desktop :(
[07:25] <flyman> arrrghhh:
[07:25] <flyman> well, their is a rt2870-v1.2.1.0_2.6.24.patch.gz
[07:25] <chan_> hi
[07:25] <DaZ> Stronze: is that guy using ubuntu because of you? :f
[07:25] <arrrghhh> flyman, ralink just released 2.2.0.0 of their driver.  but i can't compile it for some reason.  i get error 2.
[07:26] <sebsebseb> arrrghhh: it's a good release though
[07:26] <Stronze> daz - yeah.his windows crashed permantly so i put on ubuntu so he can use internet
[07:26] <Stronze> daz - problem still stands
[07:26] <flyman> arrrghhh: well i would try one release older than the newest 2.2.0.0
[07:26] <arrrghhh> sebsebseb, i'm loving karmic.  i just wish my damned wireless card would work :(
[07:26] <DaZ> Stronze: protip: get pro with linux before you evangelize anyone on it
[07:26] <sebsebseb> arrrghhh: Ndiswrapper maybe for the Windows driver?
[07:26] <arrrghhh> flyman, i can't find it anywhere!  ralink doesn't seem to provide archived drivers...
[07:27] <Stronze> daz - it worked fine...then he played with it
[07:27] <DaZ> Stronze: does it still say in logs about horiz sync? ;f
[07:27] <arrrghhh> sebsebseb, i tried ndiswrapper, couldn't find the .inf and .sys file for my drivers.  i didn't try that hard, i have the .exe i can probably break it open with 7zip under windows.
[07:27] <flyman> arrrghhh: let me see if I can find it.
[07:27] <Stronze> daz - its dos looking login in screen
[07:27] <DaZ> Stronze: ?
[07:27] <sebsebseb> arrrghhh: ok
[07:27] <Stronze> daz - xstart command no found
[07:28] <DaZ> wtf
[07:28] <DaZ> Stronze: startx
[07:28] <DaZ> it couldn't be so simple ;f
[07:28] <sebsebseb> !language > DaZ
[07:29] <DaZ> sebsebseb: i love you <3
[07:29] <sebsebseb> !love > DaZ
[07:29] <Stronze> daz - fatal server error: no screens found  giving up connection refused errno 111 unable to connect to x server        no such pricess errno 3  server error
[07:29] <linuxuz3r> anoyne here knows fortran?
[07:29] <Galdor> hi everyone can anyone help me out with a problem i have
[07:30] <losha> linuxuz3r: I wrote my last fortran program in 1976...
[07:30] <DaZ> Stronze: cd /tmp; ls
[07:30] <Galdor> im new to linux in general but i can get everything out of it i want but two programs dont have audio and i cant figure it out fo the lif of me
[07:30] <DaZ> wait
[07:30] <DaZ> Stronze: nvm ;f
[07:31] <arrrghhh> !love
[07:31] <arrrghhh> sweet sweet iceweasel love?
[07:31] <linuxuz3r> !love
[07:31] <sebsebseb> Galdor: a lap top?
[07:32] <Galdor> no delstop
[07:32] <Galdor> desktop*
[07:32] <sebsebseb> Galdor: hmm odd
[07:32] <sebsebseb> Galdor: sound  should just work I guess, what kind of sound you got?
[07:32] <sebsebseb> Galdor: maybe a sort of fancy set up with five speakers or something?
[07:32] <flyman> arrrghhh: can we try installing my way?
[07:32] <Galdor> what kind of card you mean?
[07:32] <flyman> the new adapter
[07:33] <arrrghhh> flyman, what's your way?
[07:33] <flyman> wait nevermind, a tutorial exists for it
[07:33] <sebsebseb> Galdor: well  it's usaully lap tops that  get the sound problems not desktops it seems
[07:33] <Stronze> daz - stumped?
[07:33] <Galdor> no its just a headset
[07:33] <flyman> needing the kernel headers and common tools before installing
[07:33] <flyman> http://www.apfelkraut.org/2009/02/howto-wlan-ralink-rt2870-usb-stick-kubuntu-810/
[07:33] <sebsebseb> Galdor: a headset ok  yeah those can get issues
[07:34] <Galdor> but it works with everything except tvtime and world of warcraft
[07:34] <sebsebseb> Galdor: sound isn't  my area,  so I can't actsaully help you with it,  I can give you the bot factoid though,  and maybe it will be of some use
[07:34] <sebsebseb> !sound |  Galdor
[07:34] <haytham-med> tea is a nice text editor, thanks
[07:34] <flyman> haytham-med: welcome, glad you like it
[07:34] <linuxuz3r> WASHUTUP
[07:35] <DaZ> Stronze: it is fixable but i give up  ;f
[07:35] <Stronze> daz - its okay man.i stayed up late trying to get his mistake fixed
[07:35] <Stronze> daz - your a god among men tho
[07:35] <Stronze> daz - and thanks for the help
[07:36] <Stronze> daz - and teaching me some new tricks.lets hope i can retain it :/
[07:36] <DaZ> and fixing stuff over irc after two days without sleep, and two hours spent on editing two lines and rebooting is extremely exhausting;f
[07:36] <arrrghhh> flyman, i've seen that thread.  er blog... either way, i still can't compile the ralink drivers.
[07:36] <Stronze> daz - go to bed.thats an order
[07:36] <flyman> arrrghhh: did you install the headers + tools?
[07:36] <flyman> before compiling
[07:36] <arrrghhh> flyman, unless there's something more to install than linux-headers-`uname -r` and build-essential, then no.
[07:37] <flyman> nope that is the main thing arrrghhh
[07:37] <Stronze> daz - night man.i got PT in the morning eer in 6 hours
[07:37] <Stronze> daz - night
[07:37] <DaZ> Stronze: it's 8 am here
[07:37] <DaZ> ;f
[07:37] <gerald> hi, something is making my hard drive spin up/down every 20 seconds; I ran hdparm -B 254 which fixes it for a while, then within a few hours it starts spinning down again. Anyone know what might be messing with that setting?
[07:37] <flyman> can you download a new copy of the package and extract it?
[07:38] <Stronze> daz - almost 12am
[07:38] <DaZ> whatever, g'nite.
[07:38] <Stronze> daz - get some sleep
[07:38] <arrrghhh> flyman, yea i've got both those installed, prior to compiling.  it takes longer to do the make, but it still fails.  and i've downloaded the newest 2.2.0.0 on several versions of ubuntu, always run into the same thing.
[07:38] <flyman> arrrghhh: what part fails?
[07:38] <gerald> I replaced /sbin/hdparm with a wrapper that logs each invocation, and whatever it is doesn't appear to be using hdparm. Any other utils commonly used to change that setting? (this is with ubuntu 9.04)
[07:39] <arrrghhh> flyman, the "sudo make" part.  error 2, with i'm sure a bunch of other errors.
[07:39] <TuNiX> when does ubuntu 9.10 come out???
[07:39] <flyman> arrrghhh: is their a config file inside?
[07:40] <DaZ> TuNiX: soon.
[07:40] <flyman> sometimes you need to ./configure to make a config file to make from
[07:40] <arrrghhh> flyman, i edit a config.mk, but i'm honestly very poor at compiling by hand.  i can never figure out why it fails!
[07:40] <gerald> googling finds lots of people complaining "ubuntu is killing my hard drive", but nothing that helps. Everything in /etc/laptop-mode/ looks fine. (and I am on AC power, not battery)
[07:40] <flyman> arrrghhh: let me download the package and see whats inside, hold on one second
[07:41] <arrrghhh> flyman, thanks.
[07:41] <TuNiX> im excited i cant wait. i love ubuntu im using compiz right now and when i show people they freak out
[07:41] <TuNiX> especially when i close a window and it burns away in fire
[07:41] <mneptok> TuNiX: they're epileptic?
[07:42] <MoralExpl> Jordan_U, You were helping me with my audio issue earlier,https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/306755/comments/34 that link fixed it, dunno if you keep tabs on what works and what doesn't just thought I'd let you know incase someone else asks.
[07:42] <DaZ> TuNiX: tahts so awsum!!!1oneoneneleventy
[07:42] <DaZ> burning windows ;f
[07:42] <TuNiX> lol no not at all but they think its crazy how i can turn my desktops into a huge cube
[07:42] <TuNiX> and when i start a [program it explodes into view ina bunch of cubes
[07:43] <TuNiX> and one of my friends is a chem major and when he looked up some of the packages in the package manager under science he thought all the chem programs were amazing
[07:44] <DaZ> TuNiX: #windows
[07:44] <DaZ> talk with them, this is support channel ;f
[07:45] <MrSchmo> hey is there a program that can view the channel of other wireless around me?
[07:45] <daevski> Can anyone help me with a application using java and it not launching? (I have the error I can paste you in PM)
[07:45] <flyman> arrrghhh: Did you copy RT2870STA.dat to /etc/Wireless/RT2870STA/RT2870STA.dat?
[07:46] <arrrghhh> !ralink
[07:46] <losha> gerald: r u still there?
[07:46] <arrrghhh> flyman, yessir.
[07:46] <Jordan_U> !paste | daevski
[07:47] <gerald> losha: yes
[07:47] <The1Joebob> MrSchmo: have you looked into aircrack?
[07:47] <gerald> (in addition to hearing my drive spin up/down several times per minute, I can watch Load_Cycle_Count increase using smartctl)
[07:47] <TuNiX> why did you direct me the the windows channel?
[07:48] <TuNiX> see if i ever show anyone else ubuntu features and utilities ass hole
 thanks. look into it
[07:48] <Galexcd> so apparently I don't have mkpasswd installed on my system... how on earth do I get it, I can't find it in any repositories anywhere...
[07:48] <daevski> Jordan_U: Thank you.
[07:49] <Jordan_U> daevski: np
[07:49] <losha> gerald: I just read the man page for hdparm. -B 254 says 'highest i/o performance' whatever that means. What made you decide that this would be a good setting for reducing disk accesses. I would have though it meant the opposite? FWIW, I use -S do spin down my unaccessed drives, but that seems pointless on a system disk...
[07:49] <daevski> I try to run Aptana from command line and get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/294439/
[07:49] <daevski> Can anyone help? :)
[07:49] <gerald> losha, I think hdparm -B 254 basically means "don't spin the drive down to save energy"
[07:49] <newbuntu> hey all, what does it mean if you go to install ubuntu and no partitions show up in the part where you are supposed to deal with what partitions you want?
[07:50] <flyman> arrrghhh: can you run lspci/lsusb and tell me what chipset is being used?
[07:50] <arrrghhh> flyman, sure.
[07:50] <losha> gerald: that's what I think hdparm -S 0 means. I'm frankly not sure what -B does. And you seem to be just guessing...
[07:50] <gerald> I wouldn't mind if the drive spun down at some reasonable interval of non-use (as intended, especially when running on battery power), but up/down several times per min is just wrong
[07:50] <arrrghhh> flyman, 148f:3070 Ralink Technology, Corp.
[07:51] <gerald> I think I found that hdparm -B 254 advice via google (and it does prevent the drive from spinning down)
[07:51] <Sirisian_> If I used make with the kernel source and it created a vmLinux kernel. How do I go about adding that to grub? Is there a simple command?
[07:51]  * gerald rtfm on hdparm -S
[07:51] <daevski> newbuntu: I think it means you have no installable hard drives / usb sticks
[07:51] <losha> gerald: have you tried disabling acpi altogether? And hdparm -S 0 ?
[07:51] <iceroot> Sirisian_: update-grub
[07:52] <The1Joebob> Galexcd: passwd or mkpasswd?
[07:52] <The1Joebob> You might just have the name wrong
[07:52] <newbuntu> daevski: could I boot up to livecd if there is no drive?
[07:52] <daevski> newbuntu: Yes, in other words: You booted from the LiveCD and you have no hard drives in the computer you ran it off of. Just CPU RAM and CD-ROM drive.
[07:52] <newbuntu> daevski: because this laptop definitely has a drive
[07:52] <flyman> arrrghhh: I am doing some research and a lot of people are claming that using Networkmanager gives hell and have to use ifup/ifdown
[07:53] <flyman> is your network adapter name ra0?
[07:53] <daevski> newbuntu: It might also mean your Hard drive in that laptop is a dud, or has gone bad
[07:53] <newbuntu> daevski: thanks
[07:53] <gerald> Galexcd, I have a mkpasswd provided by the 'whois' package
[07:53] <daevski> newbuntu: Boot with a USB stick in there :) see if it can see that
[07:53] <gerald> losha, I tried hdparm -S 0 and can still hear it spinning down :/
[07:54] <arrrghhh> flyman, i tried wicd to no avail (as some suggested).  yes, it is ra0 (using the rt2870sta drivers.  using the "default" rt2800usb, it's wlan0...)
[07:54] <daevski> I try to run Aptana from command line and get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/294439/ -- Can anyone help me?
[07:54] <gerald> losha, wouldn't disabling acpi break lots of other stuff? (e.g. suspend/hibernate)
[07:54] <daevski> I think I just need a different java package installed.... but I don't know what I'm looking for. :(
[07:55] <Sirisian_> iceroot, I have a kernel in /boot/ called "vmLinuz-2.6.28-11-BA2" but it won't load it.
[07:55] <Sirisian_> oh wait
[07:55] <flyman> arrrghhh: have you tried System>Administrator>Hardware Drivers
[07:55] <flyman> see if ubuntu can detect the right driver
[07:56] <arrrghhh> flyman, yes... it says nothing propriteary is on this system, something like that.  comes up empty
[07:56] <Jordan_U> daevski: The stand alone version doesn't support 64 bit, see: http://docs.aptana.com/docs/index.php/Installing_Aptana_on_Linux#Running_Aptana_Studio_on_64-bit_Linux
[07:56] <Sirisian_> iceroot, thank you. It worked :P I accidently capitalized the L in linuz
[07:56] <daevski> Jordan_U: I'm running a 32bit version of ubuntu.
[07:57] <losha> gerald: um, it might. And the chances of you finding someone on irc who knows a secret about this that isn't already on google seem slim. But try disabling acpi anyway. If it works, you get to choose between suspend/resume and disk spindown...
[07:57] <daevski> Jordan_U: If I'm running on a 64bit java package, how can I find which java I need?
[07:57] <flyman> arrrghhh: can you close network manager and open terminal and type sudo ifconfig ra0 inet up
[07:58] <flyman> better yet
[07:58] <flyman> keep network manager
[07:58] <Jordan_U> daevski: What is the output of "uname -a" ?
[07:58] <flyman> type sudo ifconfig ra0 inet down and then up
[07:58] <gerald> losha, yeah. thanks for your help!
[07:59] <sid1monu> i cannot mount my 500 gb hard disk
[07:59] <sid1monu> on ubuntu
[07:59] <daevski> Jordan_U: Linux daevski-desktop 2.6.28-15-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 9 10:48:52 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:59] <Jordan_U> daevski: You are running 64 bit Ubuntu :)
[07:59] <haytham-med> in the ".bash_history" file, if i open more than one terminal, commands are not recorded
[07:59] <daevski> Jordan_U: Maybe I am running 64 lol .... and with no problems in months! -- Thank you for your help
[08:00] <Galexcd> thanks gerald, whois worked, but I apparently need whois 4.7.33 for something to work, because the version it installed 4.7.30 has a pretty major bug in it
[08:00] <arrrghhh> flyman, ok
[08:00] <Galexcd> where would I get version 4.7.33?
[08:00] <Jordan_U> daevski: np, even though their page says the stand alone won't work you can run it in a chroot ( might be easier to just run it as an eclipse plugin though )
[08:01] <tasslehoff> Hi. I have a windows laptop where the entire HD is encrypted with truecrypt. Can I install Ubuntu using the installer in Windows, without having to decrypt/encrypt the drive?
[08:01] <flyman> arrrghhh: when you type sudo ifconfig look at the ra0 output,does it show it connected?
[08:01] <arrrghhh> flyman, still won't connect.  and i think that it's weird that only _some_ of the networks show...
[08:02] <flyman> are those network wpa or wep?
[08:02] <flyman> that show
[08:02] <arrrghhh> flyman, mine is wpa.  the unsecured neighboor's network doesn't show.  mine shows when i take all the security off of it, but i still can't connect.
[08:02] <flyman> also make: *** [LINUX] Error 2 occurs when the driver config file isn't completely configured properly to the system paths
[08:03] <losha> Galexcd: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/whois/4.7.33. If you can't use google to find source code you're probably going to have difficulty compiling it...
[08:03] <Jordan_U> tasslehoff: I doubt it will work by default but it can be made to work
[08:03] <flyman> you may also be missing crypt_md5.c
[08:03] <flyman> and other linux modules
[08:04] <Galexcd> I know how to compile source code, the problem is I only have ssh access to the server... sigh... I was hoping not to have to download a package and compile it through a terminal...
[08:04] <Galexcd> its just so much different when I'm at the actual computer I'm working at
[08:05] <arrrghhh> flyman, should i paste the output of the failed make?  i really want this to work.
[08:05] <flyman> also arrrghhh for your software sources do you have main, universe, restricted and source code selected to be downloaded?\
[08:05] <losha> Galexcd: you should be able to download it via a terminal using wget https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/whois_4.7.33.tar.gz  . You're on your own for the compilation, dude...
[08:05] <flyman> arrrghhh: yeah if you could that would be great
[08:06] <sid1monu> i cannot mount my 500 gb hard disk
[08:06] <arrrghhh> flyman, i think i have all of those.  1 sec.
[08:06] <flyman> if you could also type su and login as root and then type make that would be great too
[08:06] <sid1monu> please help me
[08:06] <Viking667> sid1monu: what OS and filesystem was it created with?
[08:06] <losha> sid1monu: ok, last customer before bedtime. Is is sata, pata or usb, and what os version are you running?
[08:07] <Viking667> oh yeah, and is it sata, pata or USB?
[08:07] <sid1monu> ntfs
[08:07] <Viking667> (or firewire)
[08:07] <sid1monu> sata
[08:07] <sid1monu> 9.04 ubuntu
[08:07] <Viking667> Right. RAID or non-RAID?
[08:07] <sid1monu> non raid
[08:07] <Viking667> man ntfsmount
[08:07] <sid1monu> i tried
[08:07] <Viking667> that _may_ help, others here may have a better idea
[08:08] <edulacomadreja> does someone understand "update-rc.d"?
[08:08] <arrrghhh> flyman, http://pastebin.com/d519a7eb7
[08:08] <losha> sid1monu: before you do that, can you run dmesg | egrep sd  and see if the kernel even admits it sees the drive...
[08:08] <Viking667> edulacomadreja: hm? What's up?
[08:08] <Viking667> losha: are you thinking what I'm thinking? (missing SATA driver)
[08:09] <flyman> arrrghhh: that output is doing sudo make?
[08:09] <Viking667> ewwww.
[08:09] <losha> Viking667: missing sata drivers sounds unlikely in 9.04. I'm thinking bad hardware actually...
[08:09] <arrrghhh> flyman, yea... i couldn't su to root for some reason.
[08:09] <Viking667> mrm. More likely.
[08:10] <sid1monu> it worked on the live cd
[08:10] <flyman> arrrghhh: you mean typing su <enter> doesn't bring the prompt to login as root?
[08:10] <Sirisian_> iceroot, hmm I just put the vmLinux into the file and renamed it and then ran the grub-update command but when I try to book into the kernel from grub it says: Grub Error 13: "Invalid or unsupported executable format". Did I miss a step?
[08:10] <edulacomadreja> Viking667: hi!
[08:10] <losha> sid1monu: that's good, it means the hardware is probably ok. So run the command I asked for and tell us what it says...
[08:10] <Viking667> edulacomadreja: so, what is the problem you're having? You haven't explained in the past ten lines, and I've got a -ENOMINDREAD
[08:10] <arrrghhh> flyman, it does, but says i fail to authenticate.
[08:10] <flyman> im guessing you never setup the root password
[08:10] <Sirisian_> iceroot, boot*
[08:10] <edulacomadreja> Viking667: I have this script http://coquizadora.com/fecha.html
[08:10] <flyman> thats ok
[08:11] <losha> Viking667: -ENOMINDREAD :-)
[08:11] <Doc_Lappy> could anybody walk me thru the connect to server to another pc thru ethernet?
[08:11] <Jordan_U> !root | arrrghhh
[08:11] <sid1monu> out put:http://pastebin.com/m519bec17
[08:11] <sid1monu> http://pastebin.com/m519bec17
[08:11] <gerald> losha, I just found -Z in the hdparm man page, and that seems to have fixed my problem (my drive is a seagate, though not the model mentioned in the man page)
[08:11] <edulacomadreja> Viking667: so if i run it with /etc/init.d/fecha start it works
[08:12] <arrrghhh> Jordan_U, yea, i realize that.  someone was asking me to authenticate as root instead of using sudo.
[08:12] <Viking667> si...
[08:12] <Viking667> sorry, yes...
[08:12] <losha> gerald: cool. I guess you own all those google posters a post of your own then...
[08:12] <losha> gerald: own -> owe
[08:12] <gerald> yeah :)
[08:12] <Doc_Lappy> >hablas espanlol Viking667?
[08:12] <Viking667> edulacomadreja: personally I would have used English, not Spanish... but okay.
[08:12] <Jordan_U> !es | Doc_Lappy
[08:12] <sid1monu> output of  dmesg | egrep sd :  http://pastebin.com/m519bec17
[08:12] <Viking667> Doc_Lappy: naah. Just one or two words.
[08:12] <sid1monu> what next
[08:12] <Sirisian_> iceroot, even odder is that it says "ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, not stripped" on it. Not sure if you're there.
[08:13] <edulacomadreja> oh well, i'm spanish so...
[08:13] <edulacomadreja> jejeje
[08:13] <Sirisian_> iceroot, I mean when I run "file"
[08:13] <losha> sid1monu: very good, I see the 500GB drive is /dev/sda. Next, run sudo fdisk -l <-- that's a lower case L
[08:13] <Viking667> edulacomadreja: anyhow, what issue are you having?
[08:13] <edulacomadreja> in the spanish channel there are only 40 people, 3 of them chatting about the weather
[08:13] <trijntje> when I try to remove all KDE packages vlc,wine and virtualbox are automatically added to the list of programs to be removed, why?
[08:13] <edulacomadreja> ok, i'm sure that the script works
[08:14] <Viking667> _not_ with ubuntu-es,   what's the problem with the script?
[08:14] <edulacomadreja> but...
[08:14] <Jordan_U> trijntje: You are removing all qt packages, not just all KDE packages
[08:14] <sid1monu> output: http://pastebin.com/m6e53eb1e
[08:14] <Lint> trijntje: do they have 'installed automatically' flag?
[08:14] <Doc_Lappy> k well does puto mean "b*tch" en espanol?  it means i think in latin and just wondering?  And can anybody help me get a connection betwixt my two pcs, on ubuntu the other win 7
[08:15] <tipi> need help with alacarte, using the main menu editor tool, I accidentally deleted the preferences, so System>preferences won't show up in the panel anymore, how recover it?
[08:15] <edulacomadreja> on startup it runs (cuz i tried "echo 'hola' > /hola" before the while loop and it wrote it)
[08:15] <trijntje> Jordan_U, but how, if vbox etc are not in the list of programs I tell apt to remove?
[08:15] <trijntje> Lint, i dont know, how can i check?
[08:15] <indus> tipi: try reset to defaults
[08:15] <edulacomadreja> but then it stops
[08:15] <Doc_Lappy> all i want to do is file share thru an ehernet connextion which i had working with winxp and win 7 earlier today but can't get it to work on ubuntu :(
[08:15] <Lint> Doc_Lappy: which type of connection is of interest?
[08:15] <arrrghhh> flyman, any ideas?
[08:16] <lilzeus> I have a Microsoft Comfort Optical Mouse 3000 and I am trying to get all the buttons working. Instructions I find say to modify the InputDevice section of my xorg.conf file but there is no InputDevice section...where do I make the changes?
[08:16] <Jordan_U> trijntje: I am guessing that you are removing qt, which is what all KDE apps use but also what VLC and Virtualbox use
[08:16] <Lint> trijntje: in Synaptic, in Package menu
[08:16] <Jordan_U> trijntje: Do you know what dependencies are?
[08:16] <Viking667> lilzeus: you create one... man page for xorg.conf
[08:16] <Doc_Lappy> either one of the connect to server or the network
[08:16] <flyman> arrrghhh: it seems a lot of people have the same issue running the newer kernel and tying to compile on it with this driver. However, people are having success using backports
[08:16] <losha> sid1monu: also good, it sees an NTFS volume on /dev/sda1. Let's try and mount it: repeat after me: sudo mkdir /mnt/spare; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/spare
[08:16] <trijntje> Jordan_U, yes
[08:16] <Viking667> edulacomadreja: at what stage does it stop? Before the nc or after the nc?
[08:16] <lstarnes> Jordan_U: vlc technically uses wx, which can integrate qt or gtk
[08:17] <arrrghhh> flyman, i installed backports.  do i need to reboot?
[08:17] <flyman> even on other linux distros people are having the exact issue with this kernel
[08:17] <trijntje> Jordan_U, so I should keep all packages related to Qt?
[08:17] <lilzeus> Viking667: will I need to restart?
[08:17] <arrrghhh> flyman, i've tried a buncha different kernels.  do i need to reboot after the backports install?  someone else suggested that as well.
[08:18] <Jordan_U> lstarnes: Nope, strait qt since 0.9
[08:18] <flyman> arrrghhh: im sure it wouldn't hurt to try. It is possible something may not have gotten adapted.
[08:18] <edulacomadreja> i really don't know, but i guess that it stops trying to use the nc
[08:18] <Viking667> Restart the X server, probably
[08:18] <Viking667> edulacomadreja: hm. So you don't know either.
[08:18] <arrrghhh> flyman, i just don't know what i need to do to enable the backports after installing them.  assuming that it worked.
[08:18] <arrrghhh> reboot time, brb.
[08:18] <scandragon> Hi, I'm having some trouble accessing shared folders from windows computers
[08:18] <lilzeus> Viking667: how do I do that?
[08:18] <Viking667> darn. I have to depart.
[08:18] <Viking667> lilzeus: log out, wait for a new login
[08:18] <Viking667> That _should_ do it
[08:18] <flyman> arrrghhh: I think after a reboot it should be automatically adapted.
[08:18] <Doc_Lappy> hi scandragon i'm having the same problem
[08:19] <Jordan_U> trijntje: The easiest thing to do would probably be to just add vlc vbox etc back afterward, configuration files are saved so you shouldn't lose anything by reinstalling them
[08:19] <edulacomadreja> nope, but i also tried writing to a file in the loop instead of the nc line
[08:19] <Galexcd> sigh... whois 4.7.33 has an error in it's make file...
[08:19] <flyman> I mean, in worse worse case, always can use ndiswrapper
[08:19] <The1Joebob> I miss Ctrl+Alt+backspace
[08:19] <Viking667> edulacomadreja: and?
[08:19] <Viking667> The1Joebob: you do know there's a "dontzap" command in Ubuntu?
[08:19] <scandragon> All I get is "Can't get share list from server" (or something like that, as it's in danish)
[08:19] <Viking667> (or is that only in Mandriva?)
[08:19] <The1Joebob> I do, actually
[08:19] <losha> Galexcd: bummer...
[08:19] <Loafers> What's a simple stupid video editor similar to Windows Movie Maker for Ubuntu?
[08:20] <The1Joebob> I need to put it back on my eeepc
[08:20] <encrypted> hi
[08:20] <Galexcd> yeah
[08:20] <Loafers> !hi encrypted
[08:20] <Viking667> nope. There's a dontzap on Ubuntu, just not Mandriva.
[08:20] <Loafers> !hi | encrypted
[08:20] <trijntje> Jordan_U, I was planning on removing the configs too, but I guess ill keep them. Thanks for your help!
[08:20] <losha> Galexcd: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/whois_4.7.34.tar.gz
[08:20] <Viking667> The1Joebob: try "dontzap --disable" as root, then try Ctl-Alt-Backspace
[08:20] <Jordan_U> trijntje: You can remove configs also with --purge
[08:20] <losha> Galexcd: this could go on all night...
[08:21] <trijntje> Lint: thanks for your help, i'll just reinstall those packages afterwards
[08:21] <edulacomadreja> no test file wrote at all...
[08:21] <trijntje> Jordan_U, I know, but then I lose all my wine and vbox configs too
[08:21] <edulacomadreja> Viking667: i'll try /etc/rc.local
[08:21] <Viking667> edulacomadreja: then something is wrong with how you think those scripts are executed.
[08:21]  * losha sid1monu went off-line? Or crashed accessing the ntfs volume?
[08:21] <edulacomadreja> Viking667: that's for sure!
[08:22] <Jordan_U> Loafers: I have heard good things about PiTivi, but it's still in development
[08:22] <Viking667> ... and as I don't know the Ubuntu way of running scripts, I can't offer much more than that.
[08:22] <The1Joebob> Viking667: I'm aware. I've done that. That doesn't mean I can't miss that it's no longer standard :P
[08:22] <Loafers> Jordan_U, Thanks, I'll check it out
[08:22] <scandragon> Anyone knows how to get the smb client workin properly on Jaunty?
[08:22] <Viking667> you may strike exactly the same problem with /usr/local/etc...
[08:22] <trijntje> !samba | scandragon
[08:22] <Viking667> The1Joebob: heh. I miss Ctl-Alt-KP_Plus and Ctl-Alt-KP_Minus
[08:23] <Viking667> ... which has been replaced by xrandr
[08:23] <losha> Galexcd: did you see my link to whois 4.7.34?
[08:23] <Viking667> I used to (long ago, in the very late nineties) slip a 320x240 modeline into my XF86Config, and play nighthawk that way, fullscreen.
[08:24] <arrrghhh> ugh.  still no go flyman
[08:24] <The1Joebob> Viking667: that would really help on my eeepc. mess up the resolution and the screen becomes useless D:
[08:24] <flyman> arrrghhh: I am going to find a way, even if we have to use ndiswrapper
[08:24]  * losha ok, bedtime...
[08:24] <arrrghhh> flyman, yea, i was thinking about ndiswrapper.  haven't given that a whole lot of time/effort as of yet.
[08:25] <flyman> well cause it can be a good and bad thing
[08:25] <flyman> if we don't have to, great but its looking more like we might
[08:25] <arrrghhh> flyman, yea, i'd rather use a linux native driver.  i shouldn't have bought this usb dongle is what it boils down to.
[08:25] <Viking667> The1Joebob: lol. yeah.
[08:26] <flyman> arrrghhh: but this is half the fun of new hardware, to make it work
[08:26] <arrrghhh> i read a post somewhere, a guy got the card working flawlessly with ndiswrapper, but had to use a slightly older .inf and .sys file.
[08:26] <Jordan_U> arrrghhh: If you're having wireless problems ( especially with ralink ) try linux-backports-modules or the latest kernel from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[08:26] <arrrghhh> flyman, yea, and it was cheap.
[08:26] <arrrghhh> Jordan_U, i just installed the backports modules, do i have to do anything else?  i just rebooted, same issue.
[08:27] <Viking667> right. Time I spun off for a nighthawk.
[08:27] <Jordan_U> arrrghhh: No
[08:28] <becks_> -
[08:29] <becks_> ce_zha
[08:29] <edulacomadreja> Viking667: are you still there?
[08:29] <arrrghhh> Jordan_U, well i guess i'll give 2.6.32_rc4 a shot...
[08:30] <becks_> #bandung
[08:30] <DJones> !id | becks_
[08:31] <becks_> #jakarta
[08:32] <albasheers1> connecting my laptop to projector or tv , can anybody suggest an application
[08:32] <TinSammich> sweet, xchat works
[08:33] <TinSammich> should just need to be configured in your display settings
[08:33] <Bluey> albasheers1: dunno I just plug mine into the tv.  no software
[08:33] <scandragon> trijntje, I'm afraid what's on those pages doesn't help me :(
[08:35] <TinSammich> been testing out different distros all day and so far Ubuntu is still winning
[08:35] <trijntje> scandragon, then you should give us more details about what goes wrong
[08:35] <albasheers1> Bluey: but my laptop is not working
[08:36] <Bluey> albasheers1: ahh I have never owned a laptop -- on my desktop I just run it to the tv....
[08:36] <scandragon> well I gave all information.. All I get when trying to connect to any kind of shared folder is (translated from danish) "Cannot get sharelist from server"
[08:36] <scandragon> even when trying to view contents of the workgroup
[08:37] <pretender> dell optiplex 755 running 8.04 q 35 express video picking up vga how to  i get it to pickup so it will run compiz desktop effects.
[08:37] <albasheers1> do anybody else know any application for connecting laptop to projector or tv
[08:37] <MonsieurBon> hello
[08:38] <arrrghhh> flyman, Jordan_U, still no go... i'm on 2.6.32_rc4 now as well.  heck, it's actually worse in this kernel.  sigh.
[08:38] <TinSammich> albasheers: shouldnt need a program, just connect it and go to system -> preferences -> display and configure it
[08:38] <arrrghhh> maybe i'll try ndiswrapper tomorrow.  er today.  i think it's bedtime for now.  thanks for the help tho guys!
[08:38] <MonsieurBon> Is it possible and if yes how do I change the password for my harddrive encryption? I encrypted my whole harddrive (well, almost so) during installation.
[08:38] <albasheers1> TinSamich: I tried that but I am getting black and white display on tv
[08:39] <trijntje> scandragon, I know nothing about samba, but you are giving very little information. What version of ubuntu are you using, what version of samba, how do you try to connect to the shared folder, etc etc
[08:39] <TinSammich> albasheers: hit the detect displays n such?
[08:39] <encrypted> MonsieurBon: cool
[08:39] <tipi> need help with alacarte, using the main menu editor tool, I accidentally deleted the preferences, so System>preferences won't show up in the panel anymore, how recover it?
[08:39] <MonsieurBon> encrypted, cool what?
[08:40] <JasseT> albasheers1: tried changing some settings on the tv?
[08:40] <encrypted> no one look your file.
[08:40] <kraut> moin
[08:40] <TinSammich> JasseT: good call
[08:41]  * Take0n kalimera
[08:41] <JasseT> TinSammich: thx :)
[08:41] <albasheers1> TinSammich : it is detecting but resolution is not perfect ,I wanna get display on both laptop and tv
[08:41] <MonsieurBon> encrypted, that's why I encrypted my harddrive. do you know how to change the password?
[08:41] <nathan7266> hi, i'm needing some help with sed and bash... is anyone here able to help? It's kinda complicated...
[08:42] <Sirisian_> why do the kernels in grub has an initrd? Why doesn't the kernels made with make have one of those. When you run update-grub and it installs the kernels by writing into menu.lst it doesn't add any initrd line for the new kernel. That file seems to be important since I can't boot a kernel without it
[08:42] <Sirisian_> have*
[08:42] <albasheers1> JasseT: I already tried to change setting on tv but no use
[08:42] <encrypted> MonsieurBon: password in system or hardware?
[08:43] <MonsieurBon> nathan7266, don't ask for help. ask your question. i've just been meddling with sed yesterday, so I might be able to help. What's the problem?
[08:43] <JasseT> albasheers1: the laptop also probably has quick keys (fn+something) for adjusting the picture, are those any use?
[08:43] <MonsieurBon> encrypted, password for the harddrive encryption.
[08:43] <albasheers1> JasseT: function are working on xp but not on ubuntu
[08:44] <TinSammich> albasheers1: how old is the TV u are using?
[08:45] <albasheers1> it is new , with xp it is working
[08:45] <encrypted> MonsieurBon: I'm usually success if using the encrypted HDD for running. sorry for try another HDD for running and opening the encrypted HDD.
[08:46] <TinSammich> albasheers1: try going to system -> prefs -> appearance and setting it to low to see what happens
[08:48] <albasheers1> ok
[08:48] <mistrynitesh> is firefox 3.5 available for hardy?
[08:48] <tipi> need help with alacarte, using the main menu editor tool, I accidentally deleted the preferences, so System>preferences won't show up in the panel anymore, how recover it?
[08:49] <thermal_> hey I recently switched back to linux after running osx for a few years where I fell in love with quicksilver. I'm currently looking for a linux equivalent that handles context switching
[08:49] <MonsieurBon> encrypted, I don't understand, what you're trying to tell me....
[08:49] <C0nn0R> If not then you can download 3.5 and tweak .bashrc to run ff-3.5 as default.
[08:49] <thermal_> I've played around with gnome-do, but you can switch back to previous applications which for me was the best feature of quicksilver, it allowed me to use muscle memory to switch between applications rather than having to look at the alt-tab windows
[08:50] <C0nn0R> thermal_: tryed with "apt-cache search quicksilver" ib terminal to find an alt ?
[08:50] <thermal_> does anyone know of a linux quicksilver equivalent that will allow context switching?
[08:50] <thermal_> well there definitely isn't a quicksilver port
[08:50] <thermal_> and doing an apt-cache search returns only gnome-do
[08:51] <C0nn0R> Hmm...
[08:51] <Bluey> can someone take a loog a these log entries and tell me what's going on?  I was NOT on my machine at all when these errors were logged:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/294474/
[08:51] <C0nn0R> Tryed using conext switching with apt-cache ?
[08:51] <thermal_> gnome-do is nice for launching apps, but really I want to jump back and forth
[08:51] <thermal_> I want to switch between my current vim, terminal and firefox windows
[08:51] <mgmuscari> is there some way that i can configure my xorg.conf to gracefully handle me switching back and forth in the bios between the discrete ATi chip in my machine and the intel integrated graphics?
[08:51] <thermal_> hrmm... let me check that out
[08:51] <C0nn0R> If window switching then use alt-tab or custom keybindings.
[08:52] <thermal_> yeah I might try and setup some custom keybindings
[08:52] <mgmuscari> i just had a very unpleasant experience figuring out how to hackily unlock my root password just so that i could fix xorg.conf and boot back to gdm...
[08:52] <C0nn0R> I run fluxbox on my systems and using custom keybindings and it works great.
[08:52] <C0nn0R> mgmuscari: We all have been there before....
[08:53] <C0nn0R> Ugh, learning at first is a pain but great once you have it working.
[08:53] <mgmuscari> Bluey: that just looks like memory swap stuff...
[08:53] <encrypted> MonsieurBon: that why I'm use my nick encrypted. hard to touch again.
[08:53] <Bluey> mgmuscari: so nothing to worry about?
[08:53] <thermal_> I really don't like using alt tab to switch between apps when I'm coding, it completely breaks my concentration, as little of a difference as looking at an alt-tab list sounds, I've found that it does make a huge difference in concentration compared to having a direct set of keys that my fingers automatically know for switching to an app
[08:53] <MonsieurBon> argh
[08:54] <mgmuscari> Bluey: where's that coming from? if you're worried that someone is "hacking" your system, i would say probably not...
[08:54] <Bluey> no I've never seen this in the log that's all
[08:55] <thermal_> I just downloaded the source code for gnome launch box and quicksilver tonight
[08:55] <thermal_> gnome launch box is similar but hasn't been touched basically since it was released
[08:56] <mgmuscari> Bluey: i just see a bunch of swap diagnostics here
[08:56] <thermal_> and while gnome-do is on the right track, the fact that it is written in C# is a big turnoff for working on it
[08:56] <Bluey> mgmuscari: okay i am headed off to bed then -- my thanks....
[08:56] <asfjio> hello, my email client want to store my pass in keyring manager. when i agree and check the save password box in System -> Administration -> Keyring Manager appeared my record with the password. when i check the box show password it shows. what is the point of this. can i make this viewable only if you type the user pass?
[08:56] <mgmuscari> Bluey: have a nice night
[08:57] <mistrynitesh> how do I get firefox 3.5 on hardy?
[09:00] <asfjio> anyone can help with my question?
[09:01] <indus> asfjio: ask quesrtion
[09:02] <indus> mistrynitesh: add the moziilla team ppa
[09:02] <asfjio> hello, my email client want to store my pass in keyring manager. when i agree and check the save password box in System -> Administration -> Keyring Manager appeared my record with the password. when i check the box show password it shows. what is the point of this. can i make this viewable only if you type the user pass?
[09:02] <asfjio> indus: this was my question.
[09:02] <stanley> I was dual booting with Win7 and Debian. I booted into Ubuntu 9.04 and went to install it. I deleted my 3 Debian partitions and created a new swap and root parition for Ubuntu and installed (all partitions for Win and Ubuntu are on the same HD). Now after it finished installing I'm sitting at "GRUB loading, please wait .... Error 17"
[09:03] <MonsieurBon> asfjio, your password is stored in the keyring manager. Of course it can't be stored as a hash value because it has to be available for the system to use. Usually you have to unlock the keyring with your password once per session.
[09:04] <indus> mistrynitesh: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ppa
[09:05] <asfjio> MonsieurBon: the only unlock was do you want to allow -> "deny", "allow once", "allow all" and no asking for my pass.
[09:05] <sabag> hii, can someone help me?
[09:06] <psycho_oreos> !ask | sabag
[09:06] <stanley> !ask | sabag
[09:06] <stanley> ah, beat me to it
[09:06] <sabag> after installing ubunutu via webi i have one HD less, I can see him on fdisk but not in places
[09:07] <psycho_oreos> its most likely not mounted or something nasty happened
[09:07] <asfjio> MonsieurBon: any solution? is the problem in my keyring manager?
[09:07] <MonsieurBon> asfjio, maybe your password was stored. If you open Synaptic you have to enter the password. If you close it and open it again => no password is asked. So maybe you just entered your password for something a short time before.
[09:07] <MonsieurBon> asfjio, I don't think there's a problem.
[09:07] <indus> sabag: check under /etc/host
[09:07] <sabag> it is wirking, he has PX on him
[09:08] <MonsieurBon> asfjio, you could try to log out and log in again and then access your keyring and see if a password is asked.
[09:08] <sabag> hold on, i am novice
[09:08] <twisted> hi all
[09:09] <asfjio> MonsieurBon: i authorize with kerberos if i do kdestroy and kinit again woult be that enough to open the kering again?
[09:09] <sabag> indus: it wtites in the terminal no such file or directory
[09:09] <wertik_rus> ))
[09:09] <twisted> sorry if i am disturbing  a  conversation any one in here good with vpn ? , any
[09:10] <stanley> twisted: more info please.
[09:10] <StrangeCharm_> to what extent will a system with an ext3 driver be able to read and write to an ext4 volume?
[09:10] <asfjio> MonsieurBon: i'm going to log out. will tell you what happened.
[09:10] <stanley> twisted: I've been using OpenVPN and find it awesome
[09:10] <MonsieurBon> k
[09:10] <indus> sabag: just browse manually to /etc/host or hosts
[09:10] <twisted> the server i  need to getinto is 2003microsoft
[09:11] <stanley> twisted: what do you mean get in?
[09:11] <stanley> twisted: Remote desktop?
[09:12] <twisted> no,   i need  to be ableto get to the intranet sites and smb shares.  and most of all   proxy  through their internet
[09:12] <asfjio> MonsieurBon: i reloged and the keyring didn't ask me for pass. this is very sad.
[09:12] <twisted> i currently connect using terminal server client,  but wating on an entire gui is  uberlag
[09:13] <MonsieurBon> asfjio, hum, strange... maybe the keyring is automatically unlocked with login? Is there an option where you could set that?
[09:14] <asfjio> MonsieurBon: where do i need to search for such an option?
[09:14] <MonsieurBon> asfjio, I don't know. I don't have kde...
[09:14] <asfjio> MonsieurBon: i use gnome.
[09:14] <sabag> sorry, he writes in the broser no such file
[09:15] <asfjio> MonsieurBon: the version of my keyring manager is 2.20.0. could be this helpful
[09:15] <MonsieurBon> asfjio, Oh, I'm sorry I didn't know what kdestroy was! I'll have a look, one moment
[09:17] <asfjio> MonsieurBon: it kedstroy the kerberos session which is created when i log in.
[09:17] <booting_kernel> how can i make desktop shortcut in ubuntu
[09:17] <asfjio> *it destroy
[09:17] <twisted> any experience with that stanley ?
[09:18] <stanley> twisted: Setup OpenVPN where the servers located
[09:18] <mistrynitesh> indus: thanks, but the link you gave does not list ff3.5 for hardy
[09:19] <twisted> cant get   the company to do that.... quite sure of it.  the  "Administrator"    thinks im  silly for  using linux at all.
[09:19] <sabag> indus: the browser can't go thare
[09:19] <sabag> there
[09:19] <MonsieurBon> asfjio, yes, I googled it! :-) Now I see what you mean. No password asked for me there too.... Doesn't seem to be an error. I have no idea how to change that.... i think it's unlocked with login.
[09:20] <stanley> twisted: what kind of admin is that?!
[09:20] <stanley> twisted: you'll need some sort of VPN server setup. OpenVPN is just awesome and free.
[09:21] <twisted> the vpn is up and running, 2003 server,   several people log in daily and use it... windows people
[09:21] <twisted> i just gotta get logged in from ubuntu
[09:21] <stanley> what VPN server though, it depends if it has a linux client
[09:22] <twisted> the built in vpn server from microsoft
[09:22] <vlt> Hello. How can I install a Debian kernel to Ubuntu? Download and install the .deb pkg or by adding a line to /etc/apt/sources.list?
[09:23] <haytham-med> hi all, how to setup the left ctrl to work as right?
[09:23] <stanley> twisted: google it and see if they have a linux client. I highly doubt it though, M$ isn't that type of company
[09:23] <stanley> The only parittions I need to create for a dual boot is a swap and root, correct?
[09:23] <GuidMorrow> !debian
[09:24] <StrangeCharm> twisted, is it a pptp vpn?
[09:25] <twisted> yes
[09:25] <JasseT> stanley: and perhaps one for the other OS :)
[09:26] <twisted> ive been  trying with gnome network manager, i installed the pptp client  and  configured it.   connection fails, but the error log isnt  helping me, cryptic
[09:28] <Balsaq> will buntu run well on 2.4g...8kb L1....512 L2....256 rdram....60 hd?
[09:28] <ariqs> yes
[09:28] <DJones> !requirements | Balsaq
[09:28] <Balsaq> the 256 scaresme
[09:29] <Balsaq> does the 512 L2 cache work with the 256 rdram to make it feel like 768 ram?
[09:30] <DJones> Balsaq: It should run, although the recommended memory is 384Mb, so its likely to be quite slow
[09:30] <Balsaq> i thought so...was wondering if the 512 L2 make up for it
[09:30] <claude47> Balsaq no L2 using cpu cache... ram..
[09:31] <Balsaq> bummer-rdram is really expensive
[09:31] <Balsaq> dang puter is only worth 50 bucks
[09:31] <claude47> is like L1+L2+L3=total ram.. but "L" means how priority level ram is it L1 fast L2 slower L3 slowest..
[09:32] <claude47> use swaping if u have low ram... <256
[09:32] <Balsaq> hmmm...what is that
[09:33] <Balsaq> swaping
[09:33] <DJones> !swap | Balsaq
[09:33] <claude47> swap like hdd-ram if ram using full then swaping means ram->ram-hdd->ram is putting ram files to hdd if it full..
[09:33] <MonsieurBon> Is it possible and if yes how do I change the password for my harddrive encryption? I encrypted my whole harddrive (well, almost so) during installation with the alternate cd.
[09:33] <claude47> yes...
[09:33] <ariqs> He'd just have to disable the pretty eyecandy
[09:34] <claude47> but i using Truecrypt use /home folder is faster crypt files..
[09:34] <DJones> Balsaq: It might be worth you having a look at xubuntu which has lower hardware requirements than ubuntu, that may be an alternative solution
[09:34] <DJones> !xubuntu | Balsaq
[09:34] <claude47> then no need install all..
[09:34] <thermal_> C0nn0R, heh.. I might have found a potential solution for linux quicksilver
[09:34] <Balsaq> well ihave both discs ubub and xubu
[09:35] <Balsaq> never heard of that swap--reading..TY
[09:35] <mistrynitesh> indus: just fyi, this link provides ff3.5 for hardy
[09:35] <mistrynitesh> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[09:35] <Laibsch1> I'm trying to use PPPoE to connect to my ISP.  Currently, I have a little box do that for me.  I configured the connection in Network Manager and from what I see it should be correct.  But the connection fails: http://paste.debian.net/49229/  I think line 39 of that pastebin is the key
[09:35] <claude47> if has up 512+ Ram usage then  no need meybe swaping..
[09:35] <Laibsch1> Looking for help figuring this out
[09:36] <Balsaq> si ishould buy a lil more ram anyway
[09:36] <claude47> i have 2Gb(ram)+100mb swap
[09:37] <Balsaq> must sleep thank you all
[09:37] <claude47> how much processes u have up ?
[09:38] <asfjio> MonsieurBon: sorry for the delay. so i need to find workaround for kerberos prevent unlocking keyring manager right?
[09:39] <MonsieurBon> asfjio, I'm not using kerberos, and the behaviour is exactly the same here. So I don't think kerberos is doing this. I suppose that gnome unlocks your keyring once you're logged in.
[09:40] <claude47> some know is normal process console-kit-daemon using 60+ thears ?
[09:40] <daeron> hi everyone
[09:40] <kubanc> hey, anybody knows what is the default TCP windows size for windows XP and ubuntu OS ?
[09:40] <daeron> i'm having troblue with nm
[09:41] <daeron> it seems to stop well afted installing kubuntu-desktop meta-package
[09:41] <stanley> so, anything super new and exciting coming out in 9.10 ?
[09:41] <daeron> it seems to stop working well afted installing kubuntu-desktop meta-package
[09:42] <asfjio> MonsieurBon: ah, so i misunderstand you first. so this that my keyring manager is unlocked is normal behaviour. thank you for the answers.
[09:42] <claude47> http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/tcptune/OStune/winxp/winxp_stepbystep.html
[09:42] <leaf-sheep> stanley: With many new upcoming features in Ubuntu Koala Karmic (Release 9.10), there are many great things about Karmic! One even claims that it now can make you a sandwich (without a sudo!).  For more discussions and/or supports, see #ubuntu+1
[09:43] <stanley> leaf-sheep: haha :) thanks. Will i be able to upgrade from 9.04 or will it need a fresh install??
[09:44] <leaf-sheep> stanley: Both will work.  It's all up to you.
[09:44] <MonsieurBon> asfjio, I think so. At least it seems to be the default behaviour. I don't know if you can change it somehow....
[09:44] <claude47> how much 9.04 needs hhd upgradeing ?
[09:44] <Envy> hey all
[09:45] <Envy> anyone here worked with drqueue?
[09:46] <asfjio> MonsieurBon: thanks.
[09:50] <Kartagis> hello
[09:50] <Envy> hi
[09:50] <Kartagis> I need a GUI recovery tool
[09:50] <Kartagis> !recovery
[09:52] <kj4> hello all
[09:53] <Envy> hey
[09:54] <Bacta> Hi I'm trying to get my wireless connection to work, I
[09:55] <Bacta> *I'm using http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188
[09:55] <UNiTee> how would i get the mac address of a device?
[09:55] <Bacta> It asks me to do this: sudo iwconfig <interface> key HEX_KEY <<<-------- If using ASCII Equivalent, this is s:ASCII_KEY (please make note of the prefix s:) , what does it mean?
[09:55] <Envy> Bacta: in the top bar theres the network config
[09:56] <Envy> Bacta: press it and connect with the wlan network
[09:56] <Bacta> Doesn't work
[09:56] <Bacta> There's no network config
[09:56] <Envy> UNiTee: same for you, just right click on the net config select the device and open it
[09:57] <UNiTee> oh envy.
[09:57] <Envy> Bacta: which version of ubuntu?
[09:57] <UNiTee> i wish.
[09:57] <UNiTee> not reallly running ubuntu
[09:57] <Bacta> 9.04
[09:57] <Envy> UNiTee: works for me :)
[09:57] <UNiTee> looking for a debian answer :D
[09:57] <Bacta> It's not even picking up my wireless usb thingy
[09:57] <UNiTee> you didnt have to edit interfaces.
[09:57] <Envy> UNiTee: ah^^ great
[09:57] <Bacta> I'm following the instructions
[09:57] <UNiTee> me too
[09:57] <Bacta> All I want to know is what to do with that command, where do I put my key>
[09:57] <claude47> try debian channel ? =)
[09:57] <Bacta> ?
[09:58] <UNiTee> claude47, its all stuffed up with other talk
[09:58] <UNiTee> everyone misses me lol
[09:58] <Kartagis> I need a GUI recovery tool
[09:58] <UNiTee> annnnd
[09:58] <UNiTee> if theres a commandline to get the mac of something in ubuntu
[09:58] <JasseT> UNiTee: ifocnfig
[09:58] <UNiTee> its probably the same as debian.
[09:58] <UNiTee> see i did that.
[09:58] <UNiTee> but i got
[09:58] <Bacta> Anyone know anything about Linux networking here?
[09:59] <Bacta> Preferably beyond the happy, friendly GUI?
[09:59] <Envy> meh I'm no pro
[09:59] <UNiTee> 00-C0-CA-19-DD-D1-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-
[09:59] <Bacta> Indeed
[09:59] <claude47> what about networking ?
[09:59] <UNiTee> and that definatly is not the right mac addy.
[09:59] <claude47> that mac address ?
[09:59] <Bacta> "sudo iwconfig <interface> key HEX_KEY <<<-------- If using ASCII Equivalent, this is s:ASCII_KEY (please make note of the prefix s:) , what does it mean?"
[09:59] <Bacta> Where do I put my ascii key?
[09:59] <joebodo_> looks like a mac
[09:59] <Envy> UNiTee: the first six Iparts I guess
[10:00] <UNiTee> sec.
[10:00] <claude47> mac address dont need be change if using normal firewall..
[10:00] <Envy> UNiTee: 00-C0-CA-19-DD-D1 might be the adress
[10:00] <UNiTee> nope
[10:00] <UNiTee> tried that.
[10:00] <UNiTee> :-/
[10:00] <stanley> I'm trying to setup my dual monitors and when i go to "Save to X Configuration File" my "Nvidia X Server Settings" it say says unable to create a new x config backup
[10:01] <joebodo_> stanley, use sudo nvidia-settings from command prompt
[10:01] <JasseT> stanley: you need to start the nvidia config as root
[10:02] <MrGoodkat> hi
[10:03] <MrGoodkat> i have a problem with cups and chinese characters, when i print a page containing characters it doesnt print all of them
[10:04] <MrGoodkat> and some times it just prints gibberish
[10:04] <JasseT> UNiTee: Does lshw give any useful info?
[10:04] <MrGoodkat> i can read and write them perfectly using scim, but not print
[10:04] <claude47> u have right font installed ?
[10:04] <MrGoodkat> yeah
[10:04] <MrGoodkat> i just tried, the problem just seems to happen with ms documents
[10:04] <MrGoodkat> when i save them as odt it works
[10:05] <claude47> meybe that ms format dont support that font printing ?
[10:05] <UNiTee> its okay jasset
[10:05] <UNiTee> mac addy dosent matter does it?
[10:05] <UNiTee> dosent change functionality i mean.
[10:05] <UNiTee> only changes description right
[10:06] <MrGoodkat> well they work on a win pc, its not really a problem just an inconvenience if i have to save them as odt just to print
[10:06] <indus> mistrynitesh: it does, click on the link, 'not using karmic?' then select from the drop down
[10:07] <johnsny> i have a server with 2 ip addresses.. and 2 domain.. how can i configure it???i have a server with 2 ip addresses.. and 2 domain.. how can i configure it???
[10:07] <claude47> normal using 192.168.1.1 domain1 192.168.2.1 domain2 easy way conrigure it..
[10:08] <mistrynitesh> indus: but the list of packages on that page does not show ff3.5
[10:09] <indus> mistrynitesh: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ppa
[10:09] <indus> mistrynitesh: there is ppa for hardy
[10:09] <Guest62693> I found an interesting bug tonight, Nvidia drivers + compiz + VNC = FAIL.
[10:09] <indus> mistrynitesh: its the lartest firefox
[10:09] <MrGoodkat> after rechecking the newly saved odt it seems that some of the characters which are saved in the footer are still missing when i print it
[10:10] <GuidMorrow> ok, what's held up 9.10?  Something's not right here
[10:10] <indus> mistrynitesh: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/ppa/ubuntu hardy main  you can add this line to sourcesand one moer line
[10:10] <indus> GuidMorrow: karmic support in #ubuntu+1
[10:11] <indus> mistrynitesh: just 1 sec hold on
[10:13] <indus> mistrynitesh: just add the ppa , then try if u see ff 3.5
[10:14] <MrGoodkat> some how it seems that i doesnt print the chinese characters which come from windows
[10:15] <shakya> hi there.  i have a probably simple question.. when i first installed ubuntu, i had an icon in the panel for tomboy notes which, when clicked, would expand all of my notes above everything else very conveniently with one click...
[10:15] <shakya> now ive managed to change that so when i click the icon, i get a menu allowing me to manage notes...
[10:15] <MrGoodkat> saving the doc to odt fixes the problem partially, the characters which are saved as header/footer still dont get printed
[10:15] <shakya> what to do?! :P
[10:15] <Zryder28> Hello
[10:16] <shakya> hi
[10:16] <rayhan> hi
[10:16] <Zryder28> Im a new user of ubuntu
[10:16] <shakya> anyone know about that shortcut?
[10:16] <indus> mistrynitesh: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[10:16] <Zryder28> And i am a stump with something with vid card..
[10:16] <jgblanco> hi
[10:17] <Zryder28> i read all the instructions but i get lost at the first part
[10:17] <mistrynitesh> indus: that is exactly where i found it
[10:17] <jgblanco> i've installed the ubuntuone client for jaunty, but it can't connect to my account
[10:17] <indus> Zryder28: so what is the problem
[10:17] <indus> mistrynitesh: good ,
[10:17] <mistrynitesh> indus: thanks anyways
[10:17] <mistrynitesh> :)
[10:17] <indus> mistrynitesh: try karmic koala :)
[10:18] <nithin> is there any irc channel for pyfacebook?
[10:18] <Zryder28> Ok the biggest thing i read is Nvidia cards are kinda bad to use as there no open source for them
[10:18] <Zryder28> so i got installed driver popup but i thinks its the wrong driver
[10:19] <indus> Zryder28: they work great on linux
[10:19] <shakya> anyone here use tomboy notes?
[10:19] <nithin> is there any irc channel for pyfacebook?
[10:19] <indus> Zryder28: what card do you have and how did u install drivers
[10:19] <nithin> shakya: i do
[10:19] <lancifer> There are open source drivers for nvidia but the acceleration is poor with them
[10:19] <Zryder28> thats my issue lies i dont really know what card it is..
[10:19] <indus> nithin: check facebook website for developer info
[10:19] <shakya> nithin: quick question....
[10:19] <Zryder28> and the one that was recommend
[10:19] <indus> Zryder28: ok open a terminal and type lspci
[10:19] <nithin> indus: i couldn't find one there
[10:20] <shakya> i used to have it so that when i clicked the icon in the panel, the notes would all pop up....
[10:20] <shakya> now i get a menu instead.
[10:20] <indus> !paste | Zryder28
[10:20] <nithin> shakya: commeon shoot
[10:20] <shakya> you know how to change it back?
[10:21] <nithin> shakya: you have more records in the existing?
[10:21] <ubuntu_> just installed Ubuntu 9.04 with Windows 7 get grub error 22 tried fixing with live cd when rebooted same problem, any suggestions?
[10:21] <shakya> i have existing records yes
[10:21] <Zryder28>  VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2)
[10:21] <shakya> i would click the icon and they would appear on top
[10:21] <ikonia> ubuntu_: at what point do you get error 22 ?
[10:21] <shakya> but now, they do not.  instead, when i click the icon, i get a menu to access them.
[10:21] <nithin> shakya: wat left click says?
[10:22] <ubuntu_> on boot loading grub 1.5... grub error 22
[10:22] <ikonia> ubuntu_: ok - so before you get the grub menu
[10:22] <nithin> shakya: menu starting with create notes?
[10:22] <shakya> left click shows menu to create note, search notes...
[10:22] <shakya> yes!
[10:22] <ubuntu_> yes before the menu
[10:22] <indus> Zryder28: ok so its a geforce 2 , it needs legacy driver
[10:22] <indus> Zryder28: did u search under system>admininstration>hardware drivers
[10:22] <nithin> shakya: you could find the previous nots below that isn't it?
[10:23] <ikonia> ubuntu_: ok - so that  means grub is pointing at a missing partition where  you /boot file system is expected
[10:23] <indus> !who  | Zryder28
[10:23] <claude47> grub menu look /dev/xda[number]....
[10:23] <shakya> yes, i can find them there
[10:23] <shakya> but i dont want the menu
[10:23] <shakya> i want to click and see the notes show up on the screen
[10:23] <nithin> shakya: wat s happening wen u (left)click on them
[10:23] <shakya> they show
[10:23] <ubuntu_> riikonia right I tried reinstalling Ubuntu and made sure that / was installed to same partition as windows
[10:23] <nithin> shakya: then wat is the trouble there?
[10:24] <shakya> i have to click the icon, then click the note, and one note will show
[10:24] <Zryder28> yea.. i did much as i can do... but i come to a lost.. and soon as i install the driver.. and restart it dos come up stays black..
[10:24] <shakya> before, i could click the icon and all notes would show instantly
[10:24] <shakya> with one click
[10:24] <creatorzero> i have got an acer aspire 5720 , ubuntu 9.04 installed with ati video driver enabled..when i'm watching a video like and mpg video and i made a double click to go fullscreen the screen become dark and i'm not able to do anything i need to restart manually the notebook..anyone can help me?thanks
[10:24] <indus> ubuntu_:
[10:24] <ikonia> ubuntu_: / cannot be on the same partition as windows
[10:24] <shakya> now i can only show one at at time, through two clicks
[10:24] <Zryder28> then i have to go to recovery to set back as default
[10:24] <nithin> shakya: how it happens b4? It works exactly the same for me, and it is supposed to be work like that for more than one notes
[10:24] <ubuntu_> ikonia hmm
[10:25] <ikonia> ubuntu_: you need to boot from a livecd, make sure your root option is set to point at the partition to contain your /boot file system, then re-reun setup onto the mbr of your boot disk
[10:25] <indus> ikonia: maybe its a wubi install
[10:25] <shakya> before i would click the icon and all note (five) would show up on top of other windows
[10:25] <indus> no nvm
[10:25] <ubuntu_> ikonia I'm in live cd right now
[10:25] <nithin> shakya: 1 sec
[10:25] <indus> Zryder28: please use my nick to highlight me or i will miss your messages
[10:25] <indus> Zryder28:
[10:25] <claude47>  easy way install grub is qemu using.. if has 2 computer...
[10:25] <indus> Zryder28:
[10:26] <ikonia> ubuntu_: ok - so you need to open a grub shell, re run "root" options to make sure it points at your /boot file system, then re-apply setup to write that change to the mbr
[10:26] <indus> ubuntu_: just type sudo grub at the terminal prompt
[10:26] <Zryder28> Ok
[10:26] <ubuntu_> indus ok will do
[10:26] <indus> ikonia: may i ?
[10:26] <Zryder28> !who indus
[10:26] <indus> help him i mean
[10:27] <Zryder28> woops sorry
[10:27] <indus> Zryder28: :)
[10:27] <ubuntu_> indus ready when you are
[10:27] <ikonia> indus: what ever you want
[10:27] <indus> ubuntu_: then type find /boot/grub/stage1
[10:27] <Zryder28> i dont remeber all the irc commands...
[10:27] <ubuntu_> indus I did this already once
[10:28] <nithin> shakya: i couldn't find the option as u told
[10:28] <indus> ubuntu_: whats the output
[10:28] <shakya> hmmm...
[10:28] <nithin> and it dint yet worked like the same as u tld
[10:28] <heavenrider> does my xbox 360 controller for pc have support in ubuntu??
[10:28] <shakya> i used to click...
[10:28] <shakya> hmmmm....
[10:28] <nithin> shakya: if u have lots of notes, then it will be a spam uh?
[10:28] <ubuntu_> indus (hd2,5)
[10:28] <lancifer> heavenrider> USB or wireless?
[10:28] <claude47> if u put server using upnp then yes..
[10:28] <SmokeyD1> hey people. Does the ubuntu live cd have openssh-server installed and started by default?
[10:29] <heavenrider> lancifer, usb
[10:29] <indus> ubuntu_: root     (hd2,5)       u did that?
[10:29] <ubuntu_> indus not yet hold on
[10:29] <claude47> remember hd2 hhd2 partition 5.. that means..
 should be a standard HID device, I'll look it up
[10:30] <indus> claude47: its the 6th partition actually
[10:30] <ubuntu_> indus error whils parsing number
[10:30] <indus> ubuntu_: you type wrong
[10:30] <ubuntu_> indus my mistake typo
[10:30] <claude47> hd2,0 is 1 then 5 on 6 :P
[10:30] <Zryder28> Indus i tried going to system, when iset up the driver and restart it gets black screen
[10:30] <indus> claude47: yeah
[10:30] <ubuntu_> indus okay back at grub>
[10:31] <indus> Zryder28: i want to know how you are setting up the drivers, i mean , how did you install
[10:31] <heavenrider> lancifer> i am trying to use my xbox 360 controller as a mouse, there is an software called joy2key which can make my controller as a mouse , i installed the software from synaptic aplication manager, but i dont knw where it is installed and cant find it
[10:31] <Degot> i have a question : Installation 9.04 desktop -> /dev/sda1 -> / - 10 Gb ext3  Works fine, but 9.04 server -> /dev/sda1 -> / - 400 Gb ext4 doesn`t work =( any ideas?
[10:31] <Zryder28> indus: system admin and hardware drivers
[10:32] <indus> Zryder28: ok
[10:32] <heavenrider> lancifer> i know for a fact the software works cause i have used it in windows Xp, the same softare(joy2key)
[10:32] <ubuntu_> indus??
[10:32] <claude47> try all open source application joy..
[10:32] <indus> ubuntu_: so finished the root step?
[10:32] <indus> ubuntu_: how many hdd you have??
[10:32] <ubuntu_> indus: yes
[10:33] <ubuntu_> indus:  4
[10:33] <indus> ubuntu_: lols
[10:33] <claude47> using raid huh ?
[10:33] <indus> ubuntu_: are these usb hdd?
[10:33] <ubuntu_> indus: no
[10:33] <lancifer> heavenrider> http://pingus.seul.org/~grumbel/xboxdrv/ looks like a promising driver, should act like a regular gamepad
[10:33] <ubuntu_> indus: internal sata
[10:33] <indus> ubuntu_: anyawys last step       setup      (hd2)           even though u can set it up anywhere really
[10:34] <heavenrider> lancifer> is it deb or should i compile it
[10:34] <indus> ubuntu_: i think try setup    (hd0)       it will install onto first hard drive
[10:35] <ubuntu_> indus: Like I said I did this already and had no joy, maybe you have some magic pixy dust and it will work this time :-)
[10:35] <indus> ubuntu_: ya will work i think
[10:35] <claude47> hd0,0 install frist hard drive and 1 partition..
[10:35] <ubuntu_> indus: I already did (hd2)
[10:35] <indus> ubuntu_: reboot
[10:35] <lancifer> heavenrider> it looks like compiling is required
[10:36] <slacker-> Hi, is there a howto for installing samba 3.4 on jaunty?
[10:36] <ubuntu_> indus: alright I'll be back to let you know in a few minutes
[10:36] <Zryder28> indus: is there another way to install the driver?
[10:36] <indus> Zryder28: yeah from synaptic
[10:36] <slacker-> other than "download, configure, make, install"
[10:36] <indus> Zryder28: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy
[10:36] <heavenrider> lancifer> and i dont see where i can download it, am i supposed to download the source code?
[10:37] <lancifer> heavenrider> yes, the source code is the only thing available on there. I did find joy2key in Synaptic
[10:37] <Zryder28> indus: where is synaptic i looked but dont see it
[10:38] <slacker-> I only found the one for 8.04
[10:38] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi guys, what's a good tool that automatically fetches all the cd's info from the web? like if i put an original audio cd in my cd reader this tool makes "appear" the artist's, tracks', and album's info automatically... is there anything like that? can amarok do that? thanks
[10:38] <heavenrider> lancifer> joy2key after i installed it, how can i find where its installed, i cant find where it is installled?
[10:38] <claude47> try wget ?
[10:40] <koolhead> hey indus
[10:40] <lancifer> heavenrider > likely it will be in /usr/bin
[10:40] <lancifer> heavenrider> I found a nice howto for Xbox controllers: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=825464
[10:40] <isabel> jjj
[10:40] <ueki> i want to disabled keyboard shortcut in ubuntu (user don't use all shortcut).
[10:40] <isabel> hello
[10:41] <isabel> ????????
[10:41] <heavenrider> lancifer> thanks lemme check it out
[10:41] <indus> koolhead: hi
[10:41] <indus> isabel: yeah hi
[10:41] <isabel> hi
[10:41] <isabel> what kind of chatroom is this?
[10:41] <lancifer> Has anyone here done much work with VNC/Remote Desktop?
[10:41] <DJones> !ubuntu | isabel
[10:42] <koolhead> lancifer: what is the issue with th
[10:42] <isabel> where are you from?
[10:42] <lancifer> koolhead> issues with Nvidia drivers and Compiz
[10:42] <heavenrider> lancifer> the thread is a bit too old and posts says most of them dont work!!     *SIGH
[10:43] <ntsasng> I'm has lost audio when upgrading to 9.10. Need Help
[10:43] <ntsasng> Help me
[10:43] <lancifer> koolhead> If I switch over to metacity it works fine, but compiz won't update the screen
[10:43] <ntsasng> Please
[10:43] <lancifer> heavenrider> Bummer, it looked promising too
[10:44] <mechdave> isabel, this is a support channel for Ubuntu operating system, we discuss anything to do with Ubuntu, #ubuntu-offtopic is for everything else
[10:44] <ntsasng> No body help me?
[10:45] <azlon> i just enabled ICS yesterday and now my Samba shares arent working... is this an easy fix?
[10:45] <bazhang> ntsasng, #ubuntu+1 for karmic 9.10
[10:45] <lancifer> ntsasng > I had issues caused by alsa to plusaudio updates on one of my systems. Had to do a clean install.
[10:46] <mechdave> G'day azlon, what is ICS?
[10:46] <heavenrider> lancifer> i found the joy2key in my bin mut i cant seem to run it, any thought??
[10:47] <azlon> mechdave, hey man! yesterday we were working on internet connection sharing (ICS). it works great now (with a caveat i will address later), but now i cant see my samba shares on my windows machines
[10:47] <indus> Zryder28: install nvidia-common then try
[10:47] <indus> mechdave: heiy
[10:47] <peol> Hey, does anyone know of a widget daemon supporting html+css+javascript?I can't seem to find any. :/
[10:47] <mechdave> G'day indus, how goes it?
[10:48] <mechdave> azlon, right no samba eh? is samba running?
[10:48] <Zryder28> indus: i think i tried that within terminal and got couldnt find drivers
[10:48] <azlon> uhmm
[10:48] <rocknblogger> indus no luck with grub 22
[10:48] <indus> Zryder28: which version of ubuntu is this
[10:48] <azlon> how do i check running tasks again?
[10:48] <mechdave> azlon, sudo /etc/init.d/samba status
[10:49] <indus> rocknblogger: what is error now
[10:49] <Zryder28> indus: latest 9.0.4
[10:49] <rocknblogger> indus same thing
[10:49] <indus> rocknblogger: ok i need to see your sudo fdisk -l
[10:49] <azlon> mechdave, nmbd and smbd are running
[10:50] <indus> Zryder28: in the bios, you need to set primary display adapter as pci ,
[10:50] <indus> Zryder28: its probably using onboard now
[10:50] <mechdave> azlon, ok now we need to find out on what ports they are running on
[10:50] <rocknblogger> indus is that the command fdisk-l?
[10:50] <indus> rocknblogger:sudo fdisk -l
[10:51] <mechdave> azlon, have you got any rules to drop packets in iptables?
[10:51] <azlon> mechdave, ok... hrmm... is this another netstat?
[10:51] <rocknblogger> indus ok the sapce got it
[10:51] <Zryder28> indus: ok will look at my bios thanks, and ill come back as well
[10:51] <mechdave> azlon, it is ok I have found the standard ports :)
[10:51] <indus> Zryder28:do you have an onboard vid card?
[10:52] <lancifer> heavenrider > I tired installing it, I can't get it to pull up a GUI either. The program does look to have some terminal options
[10:52] <azlon> mechdave, i am pastebinning my iptabe rules now
[10:52] <Zryder28> indus: no i dont
[10:52] <mechdave> azlon, righto
[10:52] <indus> Zryder28: then dont bother
[10:52] <azlon> mechdave, http://pastebin.com/d51308d63
[10:52] <fantomas> Hi all. I faced a strange thing - I can't configure VPN on Ubuntu. There were never such a problem on Debian, though. I expected pptp-linux has some configuration files or configuration scripts. Is there any gnome way to configure VPN client?
[10:52] <indus> Zryder28: try using vesa for now and then troubleshoot
[10:52] <booting_kernel> y0
[10:52] <indus> Zryder28: gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:52] <booting_kernel> :)))
[10:52] <hd409> anybody here from malaysia?
[10:53]  * booting_kernel ubuntu ubuntu 
[10:53]  * booting_kernel ubuntu ubuntu 
[10:53] <ikonia> booting_kernel: ?
[10:53] <fantomas> Why ADD vpn button is not active on Ubuntu/Gnome net configuration?
[10:53] <rocknblogger> indus I sent you a PM
[10:54] <fantomas> Hello?
[10:54] <fantomas> Have you ever configured VPN?
[10:54] <fantomas> How this is done on Ubuntu?
[10:54] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN fantomas
[10:55] <mechdave> azlon, can you paste the sudo iptables -L command?
[10:55] <heavenrider> lancifer> i cant seem to run joy2key
[10:55] <lancifer>  heavenrider > I tired installing it, I can't get it to pull up a GUI either. The program does look to have some terminal options
[10:55] <hd409> anybody here from malaysia?
[10:55] <hd409> malaysian people?
[10:55] <hd409> anyone?
[10:55] <bazhang> !my
[10:55] <azlon> mechdave, yeah, it will take a couple mins for it to finish... hold on
[10:56] <heavenrider> lancifer> hmm.... too bad i was really hoping to use  joy2key its the best for my xbox 360 controller as a mouse
[10:56] <fantomas> bazhang: thanks. I can't edit or add anything there. All buttons are disabled
 There is probably something out there, I don't have a controller to try myself. If you go for a Wiimote, I could help you a little more
[10:57] <David_aka_theSAI> Hi there who can help me with a problem> eBOX (a Ubuntu SERVER) wont allow Norton AV to do updates
[10:57] <forkhandles> fsck.ext3 /dev/sdb says "Could this be a zero-length partition?". How can I wipe it?
[10:57] <heavenrider> lancifer> i wanted it badly cause by using my mouse a lot i have that dark mark under my palm where i rest my hand, an this wud make it much less iritating
[10:58] <heavenrider> lancifer> sorry nintendo wii is not even avilable in my country
[10:58] <ikonia> David_aka_theSAI: exactly what distro are you using
[10:58]  * booting_kernel ubuntu ubuntu 
[10:58]  * booting_kernel ubuntu ubuntu 
[10:59] <Zryder28> indus: thank for the patience and help
[10:59] <geirha> forkhandles: /dev/sdb is the entire second drive, it's not a partition. Partitions have a number suffix (e.g. /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdb2)
[10:59] <geirha> forkhandles: Read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[10:59] <heavenrider> lancifer> any way thanks for ur help man . gotta go now
[11:00] <bigmahatma> hello I installed gnumake from source, but I'd like that I'd need to call "gmake" instead of "make" when calling the program.. how can I do that?
[11:01] <forkhandles> geirha: i just want to wipe this drive... (c)fdisk cant see it (it had an unuas
[11:01] <forkhandles> al fs on it
[11:02] <Lint> forkhandles: fdisk can remove any partition regardless of its filesystem
[11:02] <Slart> forkhandles: why not use wipe.. it can wipe drives, partitions or whatever you point it at...
[11:02] <azlon> mechdave, http://pastebin.com/d1ddb6eb3
[11:04] <geirha> forkhandles: http://www.techmetica.com/howto/how-to-securely-erase-files-on-a-usb-stick-or-hard-drive-in-ubuntu/
[11:04] <mechdave> azlon, where did you get all these iptables rules from?
[11:04] <UNiTee> wipe /dev/a-hole
[11:05] <bazhang> UNiTee, that is not appropriate for here
[11:05] <azlon> mechdave, i have no idea... the only time i have added a rule was when i was following the tutorial from !ics
[11:05] <David_aka_theSAI> Hi there who can help me with a problem> eBOX (a Ubuntu SERVER) wont allow Norton AV to do updates
[11:05] <azlon> mechdave, i didnt know what any of them did but the logs were flooding my dmesg so i commented them out
[11:05] <UNiTee> Sorry.
[11:05] <UNiTee> just eh joking.
[11:05] <azlon> mechdave, i didnt touch anything else because i figured i would break something
[11:05] <UNiTee> someone said wipe would clean anything i pppointed it at.
[11:05] <fantomas> Well
[11:06] <bazhang> UNiTee, ubuntu support is here; #ubuntu-offtopic for random chat
[11:06] <fantomas> Ubuntu network manager for PPTP and pptp itself REALLY really sucks
[11:06] <fantomas> Its just a piece of shit
[11:06] <FloodBot3> fantomas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:06] <fantomas> I disappointed
[11:07] <mechdave> azlon, alright we are going to re do the ICS, but this time we are going to flush iptables before we do it and then we will save iptables after we finish, but first we will back up your current config
[11:07] <elky> fantomas, please behave.
[11:07] <bigmahatma> hello I installed gnumake from source, but I'd like that I'd need to call "gmake" instead of "make" when calling the program.. how can I do that?
[11:07] <azlon> mechdave, sweet
[11:08] <Slart> bigmahatma: not sure if this works.. but couldn't you just rename the executable?
[11:08] <mechdave> fantomas, please don't swear, this is a family channel, thanks :)
[11:08] <forkhandles> geirha: thats an interesting read, thanks. Slart - I didn't know of wipe, thanks!
[11:08] <bigmahatma> Slart: I have no idea..
[11:08] <azlon> mechdave, also, before we do that, i have a USB modem that i sometime unplug and take with me. every time i unplug it and plug it back in i have to redo my routing tables... is there a way to make this automatic?
[11:08] <Slart> forkhandles: you're welcome
[11:09] <mechdave> azlon, should be... let me do some research first... back in 5
[11:09] <azlon> mechdave, thanks
[11:09] <kmosh> hey, irssi is asking me for a CTCP version..whats that?
[11:09] <koolhead> :-D\
[11:10] <ikonia> David_aka_theSAI: exactly what distro are you using
[11:11] <DJones> kmosh: If you've just joined the freenode network, its normal see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#freenodeconnect
[11:11] <geirha> kmosh: It's just freenode that asks what irc-client and version you are using. Irssi responds automatically unless you disable it. I'm guessing it gets used for statistics.
[11:11] <Slart> kmosh: it's a way for someone to ask what irc client you're using
[11:12] <Slart> kmosh: you can do it yourself too... /ctcp Slart version   will tell you what client I'm using... or /ctcp Slart time will tell you the time I've got on my system.. don't abuse it though.. it can be considered rude to go aroudn poking people
[11:13] <niadh> I have a usb sound card that works under oss, but not under alsa, but alsa detects it, I think, is there a way to get it to work under either alsa or pulse?
[11:14] <pablo_> hello
[11:14] <mechdave> azlon, look at man interfaces to help you understand what we will do to save your routing table
[11:14] <Slart> niadh: is it listed when you run "cat /proc/asound/cards"?
[11:15] <David_aka_theSAI> hi ther ikonia the version of eBOX is v1.2.1
[11:15] <azlon> mechdave, reading
[11:16] <niadh> Slart: I believe so, a USB sound card shows up there and it's the only external USB sound card I have, so baring my motherboard doing something weird with internal sound cards I can only assume it's the case
[11:16] <ikonia> David_aka_theSAI: no - what's the version of ubuntu you are using, or where did you get the cd you used to install ?
[11:17] <mechdave> azlon, ok we need to add your gateway address to ppp0 by using the gateway XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
[11:17] <mechdave> azlon, to /etc/network/interfaces
[11:17] <azlon> mechdave, ok
[11:18] <Slart> niadh: webcams might show up as sound cards as well (if they have a built in microphone).. but anyways.. if it shows up in that list it should be usable by alsa.. there might be driver problems though that prevent it from working though.. or configuration problems.. the easiest way, if you ask me, would be to google for +ubuntu +YOUR_SOUND_CARD
[11:18] <azlon> mechdave, i have 2 lines in there right now, "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback"
[11:18] <azlon> mechdave, should i add "gateway 192.168.0.1"?
[11:18] <Slart> niadh: and see if someone else has had the same problems.. it might just be that you need to wait for a new version of alsa.. or it could be as simple as changing a couple of characters in a config file.. hard to tell without knowing more
[11:18] <azlon> er
[11:19] <mechdave> azlon, are you running 9.04 or 9.10?
[11:19] <azlon> mechdave, 9.04
[11:19] <teuzo> what's up !!! ...
[11:20] <niadh> Slart: This is the one I got, the customer feedback says it works, and I can output the test sound under oss, but now to find out what it's called
[11:20] <niadh> http://www.ebuyer.com/product/106540
[11:20] <mechdave> azlon, Hmmm... does eth1 and eth0 exist? ifconfig will tell you
[11:20] <azlon> mechdave, i have eth0, eth1 and ppp0
[11:21] <Slart> niadh: try running "lsusb" in a terminal.. there should be a usb id nbr for it there.. something like  0123:5678
[11:22] <mechdave> azlon, Ok... this is strange... I don't understand
[11:22] <Slart> niadh: that number identifies the usb device.. it's very common for posts, for example in the ubuntu forums, to have this number listed somewhere.. so googling for it usually works
[11:22] <azlon> mechdave, i have 2 NICs (eth0 and eth1) and one usb modem (ppp0). internet is coming from ppp0 and i want it to be shared with my lan (eth1)
[11:22] <niadh> Slart: Well the chip set is written in tiny tiny writing on the box, so I tried that, the first hit was a pulse audio wiki entry for ubuntu I think
[11:23] <lupine_85> azlon: you need to enable IPv4 forwarding
[11:23] <thermal_> does anyone know how to switch focus in gnome to an app with a given pid?
[11:23] <Slart> niadh: ah.. no other hits?
[11:24] <niadh> Slart: Oh yeah, but am encourage that the wiki is the first entry
[11:24] <azlon> lupine_85, ICS is working... i just want routing to always have ppp0 as the default route with the USB modem is plugged in. when i unplug it and plug it back in i have to rebuild my routes
[11:24] <niadh> however it might be that it's manufactured by asound and it's that that's being matched with the results
[11:24] <lupine_85> ah, well. NetworkManager is awful at managing routes
[11:24] <azlon> lupine_85, oh yeah, and since i enabled ICS yesterday my samba shares stopped working
[11:24] <mechdave> azlon, I understand what you need, I am just a little confused with the /etc/network/interfaces
[11:24] <phimic> hi is there a irc channel for ubuntu netbook remix
[11:24] <Slart> !irc | phimic
[11:24] <bazhang> phimic, this is it
[11:25] <thermal_> anyone have any ideas? having trouble finding anything with google
[11:25] <lupine_85> it keeps giving me spurious routes to all kinds of places, based on who knows what
[11:25] <azlon> mechdave, oh... want me to paste my routes and interfaces?
[11:26] <mechdave> azlon, ok we are going to add a entry to /etc/network/interfaces, yes that would be good thanks :)
[11:26] <SmokeyD1> Hey people. I have an ubuntu live cd for the powerpc. What would be the easiest way to modify that live cd to also include openssh-server?
[11:26] <David_aka_theSAI> ->TO: ikonia <- 8.4 i think
[11:27] <SmokeyD1> without actually booting the live cd
[11:27] <C00L_F0R_3V3R> I have a problem
[11:28] <geirha> SmokeyD1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[11:28] <SmokeyD1> C00L_F0R_3V3R: well, share the problem with us then...
[11:28] <albasheers1> dreambox 500s applications for ubuntu
[11:28] <azlon> mechdave, http://pastebin.com/d399c7c29
[11:28] <SmokeyD1> geirha: thanks
[11:29] <C00L_F0R_3V3R> i've just installed UBUNTU now , And whene I type in the terminal "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" it tell that the packege is not in the sources ?? Why ??
[11:29] <ennio> ciao, mi serve un aiuto su ubuntu
[11:29] <C00L_F0R_3V3R> can you help me ??
[11:29] <bazhang> C00L_F0R_3V3R, what version of ubuntu
[11:30] <ennio> ho installeto
[11:30] <ennio> installato ubuntu, su d;
[11:30] <bazhang> ennio, #ubuntu-it for italian
[11:30] <rocknblogger> indus: success dude, I actually tried that before but I tried the wrong drive
[11:30] <C00L_F0R_3V3R> bazhang 9.04
[11:30] <xteejx> C00L_F0R_3V3R: you need to enable the mutiverse and universe repositories in Software Sources, these are under 3rd party partners
[11:30] <indus> rocknblogger: dude
[11:30] <indus> :D
[11:30] <indus> rocknblogger: the bios thing u mean?
[11:30] <indus> cheers
[11:31] <uble> mey
[11:31] <rocknblogger> indus: thanks for your patience, I am sooo happy now
[11:31] <xteejx> indus: how is the mainline testing going?
[11:31] <indus> me too
[11:31] <rocknblogger> indus: yeah the bios thing
[11:31]  * indus pretends he didnt see xteejx :)
[11:31]  * xteejx giggles
[11:31] <bazhang> !ot
[11:31] <rocknblogger> indus: okay now to go configure play install update ...
[11:31] <xteejx> indus: don't worry mate, I'm a volunteer anyway ;)
[11:31] <indus> xteejx: sorry  i ran out of bandwidth
[11:31] <indus> xteejx: i pm or come to ubuntu-bugs
[11:32] <indus> come
[11:32] <rocknblogger> indus: see ya man I'll be around ;-)
[11:32] <indus> rocknblogger: have a nice day :)
[11:32] <niadh> Slart: When I start padevchooser the usb soundcard ain't listed in the devices
[11:32] <rocknblogger> indus: you too
[11:32] <xteejx> indus: I'm at work at the mo....am a bit busy, but will see what I can do
[11:33] <Slart> niadh: hmm.. that's odd.. I've never had a sound card show up in alsa but not in pulseaudio..
[11:33] <jerknextdoor> is there a way to make it so when i remove a program it automatically deletes the .folder in my home folder?
[11:34] <niadh> Slart: I might not be using padevchooser right though, but in all the tabs etc I didn't see the word USB or recognise the ID string
[11:34] <Slart> jerknextdoor: try using "completely remove" or apt-get purge
[11:34] <SmokeyD1> hey guys, how do I change the default screen used by ubuntu before the system is booted? I am using a text based install (server edition) on a laptop with a broken screen. I want to reconfigure the live cd to use the second (external) screen as the default screen in the install cd
[11:35] <Slart> niadh: not really sure what to do about that
[11:35] <jerknextdoor> Slart: thanks.  i'm trying to free up diskspace and just realized i have a bunch of stuff i no longer have installed still there.
[11:35] <niadh> Slart: I'd give it up as useless, if it were not for the fact I can play the test sound under oss through it
[11:35] <SmokeyD1> I know how to modify the Xorg configuration to use a different screen, but I don't use a graphical installation
[11:35] <Slart> jerknextdoor: if you start up synaptic you can select "residual config" in one of the filters on the left side.. then you'll see software that still has some extra files left behind.. and also remove those extra files
[11:36] <jerknextdoor> Slart: oh yeah.  i remember that from something else i did.  i forgot that existed.  i'll hit that up.  thanks
[11:36] <sagaci> is there any simple logs pages for VLC?
[11:37] <mechdave> azlon, Ok check out this --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=533613 we are going to add a script to be executed on network restart
[11:38] <littlefish> may i ask a question about mysql on ubuntu?
[11:38] <mechdave> azlon, put all your route commands into a file with the bash shbang at the top, make it executable and drop it in /etc/network/if-up.d/
[11:38] <sagaci> littlefish: no one is stopping you
[11:38] <niadh> Slart: Wait, might be onto something here
[11:39] <Slart> niadh: found something?
[11:39] <Slart> littlefish: I would say it qualifies as "ubuntu-related" =)
[11:39] <ahunor> greetings
[11:39] <azlon> mechdave, whoa... ok so i do "sudo iptables-save iptables.rules" and something for bash shbang... then how do i make it executable?
[11:39] <littlefish> when i open mysql ,and type create database name
[11:39] <niadh> Slart: Launched banshee cleanly after setting all sound options to be the USB device in oss mode, and banshee plays through the card
[11:40] <ahunor> azlon: you need to redirect the output to iptables.rules : iptables-save > iptables.rules
[11:40] <Slart> niadh: oh.. yay
[11:40] <littlefish> and then "Access denied for user ''@ locallhost"
[11:40] <mechdave> azlon, hang about for 5 mate... can you pastebin all the route commands to make your route work?
[11:40] <littlefish> what's the problem ?
[11:41] <niadh> Slart: No way to control the volume, so I got deafened but it's a start
[11:41] <azlon> mechdave, http://pastebin.com/d3a926326
[11:41] <geekbuntu> is there anyway to see why my new ubuntu install is dragging tail?  i upgraded form a p3-1ghz/384mb of ram to p4 2.4ghz/1gb ram  both intel... firefox esp is the slowest
[11:41] <littlefish> how can solve?
[11:42] <sieggie> hi
[11:42] <Slart> littlefish: sounds like a permission problem.. me and mysql isn't even sending each other christmas cards any more so I can't really help you further.. perhaps someone else in here knows.. I'm pretty sure there is a mysql channel somewhere as well.. perhaps #mysql
[11:42] <sieggie> anyone here expert with dhcp?
[11:42] <Slart> niadh: "to much sound" is an easier problem to solve than "no sound" =)
[11:42] <bazhang> sieggie, best to just ask your question
[11:42] <niadh> Slart: Don't think the card will work with wine applications, but I suppose it's a good start
[11:42] <littlefish> thanks Slart
[11:42] <jerknextdoor> Slart: there are several things that synaptic didnt catch.  i should have no problem just deleting them by hand right?
[11:43] <ahunor> does anyone use netbeans 6.7.1 under karmic ? I can't manage to create a new project. It either says that the destination directory already exists or that it doesn't.
[11:43] <Slart> littlefish: you're welcome
[11:43] <niadh> Slart: It has a hardware volume button that ubuntu tries to lower the volume with, but although the volume slider goes down, the volume doesn't actually change
[11:43] <sieggie> my question is this, is there a way that i can make the leased ip address to be available say after 2 days?
[11:43] <bazhang> ahunor, #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[11:43] <ahunor> thx, sry
[11:44] <jony123> http://nonoba.com/chris/multiplayer-asteroids/multiplayer-asteroids-battle9
[11:44] <Slart> jerknextdoor: I can't imagine that there would be a problem deleting config files for software that isn't installed any more.. but perhaps.. just to be sure.. move the files somewhere else.. reboot.. see if anything explodes.. if it's ok then you can remove them
[11:44] <bazhang> jony123, was there a question related to that link?
[11:44] <DJones> jony123: Please don't do that
[11:44] <sieggie> for example, PC1 got address A, after the lease time expires, ip address A will not be available for the next 2 days...
[11:44] <jerknextdoor> Slart: that was my next step.  thanks.
[11:45] <Slart> niadh: try messing around with the other sliders in the gnome volume control.. see if it reacts to one of them
[11:45] <bazhang> sieggie, unwatched you mean?
[11:45] <jony123> DJones: Sorry very good game though
[11:45] <jony123> bazhang: Nope
[11:45] <niadh> Slart: Am doing, I have however noticed it's not detecting the sound card as a valid default mixer track
[11:46] <bazhang> sieggie, please keep it in channel; more eyes to address the problem
[11:46] <Slart> sieggie: I'm not sure but I don't think that's how dhcp does it.. say there are no free addresses left.. should the new computer that is requesting an address just get a "no" ? isn't it better to give it an address that isn't currently used=
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:49] <sieggie> hi bazhang and Slart: there will always be free address, it's just that for this particular group here in our office, it requires that the ip address of each computer should be refreshed with new ones after say 2 hours...we will be alotting big block of ip address to them...
[11:49] <sieggie> so it's like this...for the first two hours there is a set A, set B for the next hour, so on and so forth...
[11:50] <albasheers1> dreambox  500s  is linux based satellite receiver  ,I want to upload keys on it , I can do that in Windows xp using  dreambox control center  application , I want to use dreambox applications on ubuntu . do anybody know any applications .
[11:50] <mechdave> azlon, here, this script should work for you
[11:50] <openstandards> Hi, i've just installed rabbitmq however erlang expects it to be in its lib folder however what will i need to symlink
[11:50] <mechdave> azlon, --> http://pastebin.com/m211cd005
[11:51] <bazhang> albasheers1, perhaps via wine, check the appdb
[11:51] <bazhang> !appdb > albasheers1
[11:51] <Slart> sieggie: if you've got more addresses than computers I think the dhcp server will try to keep the same ip for the same computer (or the same network card, I think)
[11:51] <albasheers1> I already cheked it is not working with wine
[11:51] <jony123> Slart: i thought it was first in first serve
[11:51] <azlon> mechdave, awesome! thanks... copying to network now
[11:52] <Slart> sieggie: you could of course check the documentation for the dhcp server but I think it remembers the MAC of the computers connecting to it
[11:52] <Slart> sieggie: so if the same MAC reconnects you get the same ip as the last time
[11:52] <azlon> mechdave, what file extention should i give it?
[11:52] <azlon> extension
[11:52] <mechdave> azlon, copy it to /etc/network/if-up.d/ and then do a sudo chmod +x
[11:53] <sieggie> hmmm...does dhcp server keep the MAC address also with the dhcpd.lease file?
[11:53] <hangyaboy> hello
[11:53] <sieggie> i checked the documentation and i don't find the options that i need...
[11:53] <reeniginEesreveR> my ubuntu 8.04 box relinquishes its DHCP leased IP address when network cable is unplugged. When the cable is plugged back, it doesn't look for ip again ... what do i do?
[11:53] <Slart> sieggie: I'm not entirely sure.. but check the documentation for the dhcp server.. perhaps it's a setting you have to enable.. perhaps it's enabled by default.. I'm not sure
[11:54] <hangyaboy> i cant download opera
[11:54] <mechdave> azlon, call it route-setup-ppp0.sh if you want
[11:54] <bazhang> reeniginEesreveR, sudo dhclient eth0 from the terminal
[11:54] <hangyaboy> somebody can help me?
[11:55] <bazhang> !opera
[11:55] <mechdave> azlon, the .sh is not mandatory, linux knows what to do with it because of the she-bang (!#/usr/bin/env bash)
[11:55] <reeniginEesreveR> bazhang, i'll have to do that everytime. and this ubuntu box does not have keyboard/mouse/video. We only use it via ssh
[11:55] <hangyaboy> yes but when i want to install i get a message
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> hangyaboy: whats the message?
[11:56] <reeniginEesreveR> bazhang, for some reason power failure is pretty common here and everytime it happens, i have to restart the machine just to get the ip address again
[11:56] <azlon> mechdave, ok got it... i was just googling how to rename a file but i can leave it as set-routes as long as i have chmod +x right?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> hangyaboy: usepastebin if it is multi-lined
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[11:56] <mechdave> azlon, right
[11:57] <azlon> mechdave, ok, its there with the chmod
[11:57] <mechdave> the syntax for chmod is --> sudo chmod +x set-routes
[11:58] <mechdave> azlon, ok now we restart networking (sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart)
[11:58] <azlon> mechdave, ok brb
[11:59] <GuidMorrow> is there a soundcard setting for recording "what you hear" in ALSA or JACK or OSS...?
[11:59] <kylin_> hello
[11:59] <sieggie> Slart: would you know of another man pages for dhcp...i read one online and im afraid it is not complete...
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> !hi | kylin_
[11:59] <kylin_> testing
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> !test | kylin_
[12:00] <Slart> sieggie: I'm browsing around at the moment.. haven't found anything really good, I'm afraid
[12:00] <kylin_> where are you?
[12:00] <Slart> sieggie: this looks...complete at least http://www.linuxcommand.org/man_pages/dhcpd8.html
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> kylin_: do you have a support question?
[12:01] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi, how do i find out if an external hdd i want to buy is compatible with ubuntu? thanks
[12:01]  * leaf-sheep whispers to kylin_ "I'm in your head" 
[12:01] <kylin_> thanks no
[12:01] <matu> hi
[12:01] <matu> is it possible to install the /usr partition to my sd card ?
[12:01] <kylin_> bye
[12:01] <sieggie> thanks...i'll give it a look...
[12:02] <matu> or it will crash booting ?
[12:02] <sieggie> oh btw...would you know a site where i can find good tutorial in learning bash scripting?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> well that was pointless
[12:02] <Slart> IpSe_DiXiT: I think you'll find it hard to find an external  hard drive that *isn't* compatible
[12:02] <matu> man bash
[12:02] <mechdave> azlon, did it work?
[12:03] <Slart> IpSe_DiXiT:  of course.. you probably won't be able to use any of the fancy "press one button to backup" software solutions that often come with the drive.. but it should work as a hard drive
[12:03] <mechdave> sieggie, try http://tldp.org and click on "bash scripting guide"
[12:03] <matu> is it possible to install my /usr partition to my SD card ?
[12:04] <menefrego> hello there
[12:04] <hangyaboy> guys can i upgrade my ubuntu from the net?
[12:04] <gam_bler> hello
[12:04] <azlon_> mechdave, didnt work: http://pastebin.com/d2f503d77
[12:04] <menefrego> yes,you can
[12:04] <iceroot> hangyaboy: yes
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> hangyaboy: sure can
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | hangyaboy
[12:04] <hangyaboy> please help me a bit
[12:05] <menefrego> sudo apt-get update
[12:05] <gam_bler> !google
[12:05] <Ubuntu_rpatton> interesting !!!
[12:05] <IpSe_DiXiT> Slart: yeah sure, the first thing ill do as soon as i get it is to format it in ext3, was just wondering if there might be a possibility of incompatibility and how to find out
[12:05] <gam_bler> guys i want englightment in ubuntu
[12:06] <menefrego> guys, how work Photoshop CS4 with Wine???
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> !ask | gam_bler
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | menefrego
[12:06] <prince_jammys> gam_bler: it's available as a package. you can get it through APT.
[12:06] <tuxattack> !ubuntu
[12:06] <gam_bler> i want to install e17
[12:06]  * Ubuntu_rpatton gives gam_bler enlightenment into ubuntu
[12:06] <bazhang> gam_bler, e16?
[12:06] <mechdave> azlon, try sudo /etc/network/if-up.d/route-setup
[12:06] <menefrego> #winehq
[12:06] <Slart> IpSe_DiXiT: you could try searching the ubuntu forums for the hard drive manufacturer/model.. I would guess that any problems would pop up there
[12:06] <gam_bler> yes e16
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> menefrego: not all windows apps run in wine, some wont eve install
[12:06] <menefrego> shit
[12:07] <bazhang> menefrego, please watch the language
[12:07] <bazhang> gam_bler, sudo apt-get install e16
[12:07] <menefrego> i know
[12:07] <menefrego> ok,sorry
[12:07] <mechdave> azlon, I have a funny feeling that that location is only run on boot
[12:07] <menefrego> who can talk in russia?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> !ru | menefrego
[12:07] <bazhang> #ubuntu-ru menefrego
[12:07] <azlon> mechdave, thats cool, i can just make a shortcut to it on the desktop for when i plug it back in. the important one is for booting
[12:07] <crippler> Hi. Downloaded 4.3gb iso How do I switch shell to sd8: partition to run MD5SUM to check iso ?
[12:07] <gam_bler> thanks bazhang
[12:08] <hangyaboy> everything is very hard
[12:08] <gam_bler> :-*
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> crippler: you mount it in a folder, then cd to that folder
[12:08] <azlon> mechdave, i really dont mind typing the commands every time but the wife needs a clickable icon if it needs to be reset
[12:08] <bazhang> hangyaboy, upgrade from what version to what version
[12:08] <IpSe_DiXiT> Slart: i tried that but itz a 2TB hdd so being quite "new" there's no trace about it, but itz a WD so i think it'll work... another thing: i have some original audio cds id like to copy on this machine but their tracks are .cda and amarok won't open/play any of them, if i try to explore the cd content in nautilus it gives an error output so i cant there as well, if i put it on a windows system instead, i have the cd opened easily and i can pl
[12:08] <IpSe_DiXiT> ay tracks, how do i solve that? thanks
[12:09] <crippler> txs AP
[12:09] <azlon> mechdave, now i just need the samba shares working since all my movies are on there
[12:10] <IpSe_DiXiT> Slart: thatz amarok's output No suitable input plugin. This often means that the url's protocol is not supported. Network failures are other possible causes.
[12:10] <IpSe_DiXiT> cdda://scd0/
[12:10] <mechdave> azlon, just try a reboot to make sure it works as I hope
[12:10] <gam_bler> guys how to edit root privialge files in notpad
[12:10] <azlon> mechdave, ok, brb
[12:10] <IpSe_DiXiT> Slart: and thatz nautilus' Could not find the file cdda://scd0/.
[12:10] <Slart> IpSe_DiXiT: hmm.. sure those are real cd's? as in "valid according to the original cd format" and not some DRM'ed "only works in windows" stuff?
[12:10] <claude47> sudo gedit file ?
[12:10] <Slart> gam_bler: notpad? you mean gedit?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> claude47: gksudo for gui apps like gedit, dude
[12:11] <Slart> claude47, gam_bler: never use sudo for gui apps.. use gksudo
[12:11] <Slart> !gksudo | claude47, gam_bler
[12:11] <gam_bler> lol i just want to edit root privilage file in any notepad
[12:11] <IpSe_DiXiT> Slart: no itz an original cd of a band that i like :D VLC plays it on ubuntu with no issues for example, weird nautilus cant access it but VLC can play it, how can i do? uff
[12:12] <Slart> IpSe_DiXiT: I have no idea then.. come to think of it I don't think I've had a real physical cd in my hand for a couple of years now
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> IpSe_DiXiT: could use grip to rip them
[12:12] <gam_bler> ok slarts i use gksudo
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> !info grip
[12:12] <gam_bler> thanks Slart
[12:13] <benovic> sound is hanging and a lot too loud. i set alsamixer bars below 50, and quality is still inadequate. is there a interactive way to test and reconfigure the sound settings?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> Slart: i get them weekly from little local bands at gigs, I have 2 small towers of little band CDs, some are ok some are terrible
[12:13] <IpSe_DiXiT> ActionParsnip: well, but even if i rip it, itz gonna be the same
[12:13] <IpSe_DiXiT> Slart: thanks anyway mate
[12:13] <benovic> system test did not help :(
[12:13] <gam_bler> downloading eet source ...
[12:13] <gam_bler> svn: Working copy '/var/cache/e17_src/eet' locked
[12:13] <gam_bler> svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
[12:13] <gam_bler> what is this ?
[12:13] <Slart> ActionParsnip: so not being able to play some of the CD's might actually be a "feature" =)
[12:13] <gam_bler> when i am installing e16
[12:13] <Slart> IpSe_DiXiT: you're welcome
[12:14] <bazhang> gam_bler, that is not e16
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> IpSe_DiXiT: sure it will, grip bypasses nautilus and reads the cd raw, you wil lthen have nice MP3s
[12:14] <jerknextdoor> Slart: we might have been slighly off on that assumption.  well, it was my fault really.  i moved those folders to my trash initially because it was easy and then rethought that and tried to restore them, but something go effed up.
[12:14] <hangyaboy> hello again
[12:14] <gam_bler> bazhang so what is this
[12:14] <drice> HALLO
[12:14] <bazhang> gam_bler, e16 is in the repos, that is e17
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Slart: true, it can be a blessing, with it was a feature in frets n fire to not let my gf play sweet home alabama for the billionth time
[12:15] <gam_bler> so how can i install e 17 ?
[12:15] <Slart> jerknextdoor: oh.. so the files were actually needed? and now they are gone?
[12:15] <gam_bler> sudo apt-get install e17 ?
[12:15] <IpSe_DiXiT> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[12:15] <Slart> ActionParsnip: =)
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> gam_bler: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-e17-enlightenment-desktop-in-ubuntu.html
[12:16] <gam_bler> :-* i use it before but the problem
[12:16] <gam_bler> downloading eet source ...
[12:16] <gam_bler> svn: Working copy '/var/cache/e17_src/eet' locked
[12:16] <gam_bler> svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
[12:16] <claude47> some running dnsmasq some know how get query form dnsmasq ?
[12:16] <Guest21962> when install netbeans on ubuntu its says no fund JDK but i have installed it
[12:16] <IpSe_DiXiT> ActionParsnip: is it in the repos? so it just rips the cd and convert the files to whatever format u want? like mp3s for example?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> gam_bler: this is newer: http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/05/how-to-install-enlightenment-e17-in.html
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> IpSe_DiXiT: sure: sudo apt-get install grip
[12:17] <gam_bler> thanks AP
[12:17] <jerknextdoor> Slart: i'm not 100% what's going on.  i think everything got restored like it should have except for one file.  which i sent to trash by accident and then restored.  it's a .cfg file for a todo.txt-cli script and now it says it can't write to the folder it's supposed to.  i'm thinking that trashing it screwed up the permissions?
[12:17] <mechdave> azlon, how did it go?
[12:17] <azlon> mechdave, still didnt work
[12:17] <mechdave> azlon, Hmmmm
[12:18] <Slart> jerknextdoor: hmm.. I guess that might be possible.. but permissions should be pretty easy to fix
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> !info grip | IpSe_DiXiT
[12:18] <IpSe_DiXiT> ActionParsnip: so itz like sound-juicer? what do u think is "better"? (and i no that "better" is an unusual word for ubuntians... but just looking for an opinion" :D)
[12:18] <azlon> mechdave, can i make it a cron for startup?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> IpSe_DiXiT: either, i have no opinion on either
[12:19] <Scutum> I installed xubuntu in a Acer netbook
[12:19] <Scutum> and I have trouble with the video
[12:19] <Scutum> and stram of video doesnt play smooth
[12:19] <Scutum> can someone please help
[12:19] <FloodBot3> Scutum: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Scutum: have you installed video drivers?
[12:19] <krsna> how can i stop this automatic popup which wants to remind me of updates/security upgrades . i want to leave the sources.list as it is but i cant find the way to stop the automatic reminders
[12:19] <jerknextdoor> Slart: yeah.  i'm just not seeing what's wrong with them.
[12:19] <Scutum> ActionParsnip, how can I find out which ones I need
[12:19] <gam_bler> AP i am using hardy can it install on hardy too ? (e17)
[12:20] <Scutum> I installed the codecs
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Scutum: lspci | grep -i vga
[12:20] <Slart> so.. a quick question.. would the command "EDITOR=gedit sudoedit /some/file" be ok to run? considering the sudo with gui apps problem..
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Scutum: websearch for the output and you will find guides
[12:20] <nightf0x09> any data recovery tool for ubuntu
[12:21] <IpSe_DiXiT> ActionParsnip: hey thanks a lot man!! as soon as i installed it all the tracks appeared :D and i am now able to copy em after convertin, kewl ;) thansk
[12:21] <IpSe_DiXiT> thanks
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> IpSe_DiXiT: np man
[12:21] <IpSe_DiXiT> eheheh
[12:21] <Slart> jerknextdoor: hmm.. have you checked the permissions for that folder it tries to write to?
[12:21] <stan> hi there
[12:21] <hj> Im brazilian...help-me
[12:21] <Scarey> how to I change my apache2 to load a different filename before index.php?
[12:22] <mechdave> azlon, no, that won't do... am investigating can you remove the .sh from the end of your script in /etc/network/if-up/
[12:22] <bigpresh> hj: Assuming that "being Brazilian" isn't the thing you need help with, go ahead and ask your actual question
[12:22] <claude47> apache2.config ?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Slart: you could have: EDITOR="gksudo gedit"    you can then run: $EDITOR file
[12:22] <azlon> mechdave, there is no .sh, its just set-route... want me to add a .sh?
[12:22] <jerknextdoor> Slart: yeah.  i'm troubleshooting everything right now.  it takes a minute cause something isn't right here.  i dont know how that folder would have been touched at all.
[12:22] <mechdave> azlon, nope
[12:23] <bigpresh> hj: Also, if you don't speak English well, there's a Brazilian #ubuntu-br channel you might find useful
[12:23] <mechdave> azlon, ok do a sudo ifdown ppp0 then do a ifup -v ppp0 and paste the result
[12:23] <Slart> ActionParsnip: yes.. but sudoedit seems like a very well behaved way to edit files without the problems usually associated with running editors as root
[12:24] <Wally> Hi Wally1
[12:24] <prince_jammys> Slart: perhaps gksudo has an -e option like sudo
[12:24] <hj> thank bigpresh....need to convert mdb to odb (OpenOffice)
[12:24] <prince_jammys> (i don't have gksudo to check)
[12:25] <azlon> mechdave, http://pastebin.com/d78ebb9d0
[12:25] <Kickar> Hi, i've been using kubuntu 9.04 for a couple of weeks now, but when i booted today, i suddenly was in Gnome instead of in KDE4
[12:25] <krsna> how can i stop this automatic popup which wants to remind me of updates/security upgrades . i want to leave the sources.list as it is but i cant find the way to stop the automatic reminders
[12:25] <Guest21962> u know how to install netbeans
[12:25] <Kickar> could someone help me plz
[12:25] <Guest21962> ado karisan
[12:25] <grawity> krsna: Look for Administration -> Software Sources; it has the setting there, IIRC.
[12:26] <bigpresh> hj: I'd recommend a read of http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/MSA-Base_Faq
[12:26] <Slart> prince_jammys: there is a --preserve-env switch for gksudo.. not sure if that's the same as -e though.. but I still like sudoedit better than running the editor as root
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Kickar: log off, choose gnome, log on
[12:26] <krsna> grawity i have looked into this menu but could not find it. what means IIRC?
[12:26] <hj> thank you bigpresh....bye
[12:26] <grawity> krsna: "If I remember correctly"
[12:26] <Kickar> thank you ActionParsnip , i'll try it ;)
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> Kickar:  the LOGIN screen has a menu somewhere to seelct what desktop to use
[12:26] <gam_bler> what is sh ?
[12:26] <krsna> grawity ah :)
[12:26] <mechdave> azlon, Uh-oh... we have a problem with network manager... change of tack, we will run the script when the boot completes
[12:27] <Kickar> ty Dr_Willis
[12:27] <jerknextdoor> Slart: weird.  wasn't permissions at all.  when the file got restored a line was missing or something.  i just updated an old backup of it and it works again.  such a strange error from that.
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> gam_bler:  the default system 'shell'
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> !dash
[12:27] <Slart> jerknextdoor: oh.. that's odd.. perhaps there were several versions of that file in the trash can or something..
[12:28] <gam_bler> :)
[12:28] <gam_bler> !bash
[12:28] <azlon> mechdave, ok do i need to do something with my network manager?
[12:29] <Pufhead> Hello
[12:29] <die79> ciao a tutti
[12:29] <die79> list
[12:29] <bazhang> !it | die79
[12:29] <indus> ciao
[12:29] <krsna> grawity thx anyway.
[12:30] <jerknextdoor> Slart: no idea.  i'm just gonna be glad for once that text editor saves those ~backups that usually annoy the crap out of me.
[12:30] <Pufhead> I just instaled ubuntu for the first time to day and after i rebooted the computer and all looked fine after 10sec or so after the loading screen or what to call it comes up the screen go from normal to this http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/1474/image001ma.jpg any one have any idea what the problem might be or how to fix it?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Pufhead: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded? Did you run te CD self verifier tool?
[12:32] <mechdave> azlon, still thinking
[12:32] <Pufhead> ubuntu worked toaly fine where just rebooting the computer cos i added a antivirus program (avast)
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> Pufhead:  monitor settings/xconfig is not set right.. and you are using 9.10?  if so see #ubuntu+1 for ssupport in there
[12:33] <bazhang> Pufhead, installed already? what version or derivative of Ubuntu? Mint?
[12:33] <Pufhead> 9,10
[12:33] <bazhang> karmic channel is #ubuntu+1
[12:33] <gam_bler> !icewm
[12:33] <indus> Pufhead: yeah i have seen that before
[12:34] <azlon> mechdave, can i just do add an up command to my interfaces file like that forum you sent me said?
[12:34] <indus> Pufhead: reinstall
[12:34] <Pufhead> a ok ^^ no otter way around it?
[12:34] <bazhang> indus, please discuss with Pufhead in #ubuntu+1
[12:34] <indus> Pufhead: but like ActionParsnip said , check cd for defects, do md5sum etc
[12:34] <claude47> uninstall antivirus program..
[12:35] <mechdave> azlon, try that
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> I doubt if the AV software did anything to the xsplash boot screen or X settings.
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> i'd go for uninstalling the AV
[12:35] <claude47> why install antivirus program to linux ?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> claude47:  to scan my windows machines.
[12:36] <claude47> -_-
[12:36] <grawity> claude47: Besides, there _are_ viruses for Linux.
[12:36] <claude47> yeah like 1-4 virus.. :P
[12:36]  * grawity decides to not continue this.
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> claude47:  'flash' dosent count.. :) so its 1-3
[12:37] <mechdave> azlon, the other way is to add it all to network manager, edit ppp0 in network manager and there should be a routes button
[12:37] <azlon> mechdave, ok, ill try that next
[12:38] <claude47> there are antivirus server how can scan file/files..
[12:38] <claude47> http://virusscan.jotti.org/en
[12:38] <azlon> mechdave, here is what my interfaces file will look like... let me know if you see any problems before i save: http://pastebin.com/d68181830
[12:38] <mechdave> azlon, sorry, am just going on google/what I reckon is right... doing that will cause some false starts :)
[12:39] <mechdave> azlon, looks ok to me, give it a save and see what happens
[12:40] <azlon> mechdave, restart networking?
[12:40] <claude47> some know script how delete duplicate images ?
[12:40] <mechdave> azlon, yep
[12:40] <jrib> claude47: fdupes
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> claude47:  there are tools in the repositories to find 'duplicate' files.
[12:41] <jorge7490> wenas
[12:41] <claude47> is using bytes side chekcing or crc32 ?
[12:41] <menefrego> guys, why does not play file *gif format in image viewer?
[12:42] <jrib> claude47: no idea, I've never used it.  Check its documentation
[12:42] <menefrego> it opens just like a picture
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> menefrego: try another app, maybe it doesnt support the layers
[12:42] <jorge7490> alguno habla español??
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> !es | jorge7490
[12:42] <menefrego> what is app?
[12:43] <sixth> hi , i am using wubi to install ubuntu and when i enter the install it is stuck on a message about a missing root file system?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> menefrego: gthumb maybe
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> sixth: did you md5 check the wubi.exe file?
[12:43] <sixth> yes ActionParsnip
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> good
[12:43] <NeoCicak> hello..... do any of you guys use oracle express?
[12:44] <azlon> mechdave, didnt work... gave me http://pastebin.com/d40654abb
[12:44] <sixth> ActionParsnip?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> sixth: are you using a self downloaded iso or are you letting wubi pull  it down?
[12:44] <sixth> its self downloaded, ActionParsnip
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> sixth: then all i can suggest is a chkdsk on the partition you are installing to to make sure it is healthy. i dont use wubi
[12:45] <sixth> okay
[12:45] <sixth> will check
[12:45] <sixth> thanks :)
[12:46] <mechdave> azlon, ok if at first you don't succeed, try and then try again :)
[12:46] <jsjc_> hello
[12:46] <mechdave> azlon, have a look at network manager
[12:46] <jsjc_> i am having trouble to install postgresql
[12:46] <jrib> jsjc_: how are you trying to install it?
[12:46] <jsjc_> apt does not let me go always fails starting server
[12:47] <jrib> jsjc_: pastebin the command and full output
[12:47] <jsjc_> apt-get install postgresql
[12:47] <jsjc_> jrib http://pastebin.com/d60149d7c
[12:48] <jrib> jsjc_: you're using hardy?
[12:48] <jsjc_> jrib yes
[12:49] <trakcyia> Howcome windows runs faster than linux?
[12:49] <azlon> mechdave, ok i found the routes button
[12:49] <Appiah> faster what
[12:50] <trakcyia> take vista and feed it through vlite, reduce size to less than 700MB
[12:50] <jsjc_> jrib do tyou have an idea why could be?
[12:50] <jrib> jsjc_: pastebin your /etc/hosts
[12:50] <trakcyia> it runs way faster than jaunty and i have no idea why
[12:50] <DJones> !ot | trakcyia
[12:50] <jsjc_> hohooh no file found!
[12:50] <jsjc_> found the issue quickly
[12:50] <trakcyia> djones actually i was hoping for some insight on what i might do to improve performance
[12:51] <jrib> jsjc_: yeah, you have to have localhost resolve to 127.0.0.1 I guess
[12:51] <jsjc_> thanks so much
[12:51] <jrib> jsjc_: why would you not have that file though?
[12:51] <azlon> mechdave, should i add Address: 0.0.0.0, Netmask: 255.255.255.0, Gateway: 192.168.0.1?
[12:52] <hangyaboy> hi
[12:52] <DJones> trakcyia: Sorry about that then, can't say I've had that problem, I find that Ubuntu is faster than windows
[12:52] <hangyaboy> i cannot download nothing
[12:52] <jsjc_> jrib most likely the dodgy remote install I have done.
[12:52] <hangyaboy> what happened
[12:52] <mechdave> azlon, hang on... still working on it
[12:52] <azlon> k
[12:52] <hangyaboy> ????????????/
[12:52] <indus> mechdave: hi
[12:52] <indus> mechdave: good day?
[12:52] <hangyaboy> someone help me please
[12:53] <mechdave> indus, G'day mate
[12:53] <indus> hangyaboy: tell tell
[12:53] <mechdave> indus, so far so good :)
[12:53] <indus> hangyaboy: what disturbs the mind today
[12:53] <hangyaboy> i want download open office
[12:53] <remoteCTR1> erm... can it be that ati drivers dont work on a thinkpad t60???
[12:54] <trakcyia> djones perhaps it is because with any windows installation i use i remove 70% of it pre-install, then backup after driver install
[12:54] <Appiah> remoteCTR1: they did 2 years ago
[12:54] <indus> hangyaboy: no need to download, just install it from add remove programs
[12:54] <mechdave> azlon yeah
[12:54] <hangyaboy> and it ist start automaticly
[12:54] <trakcyia> and restore byte for byte backup almost weekly
[12:54] <dr3mro> how to defrag EXT4 in jaunty ???
[12:54] <MenZa> !defrag | dr3mro
[12:54] <hangyaboy> ok
[12:54] <remoteCTR1> Appiah, they even did 2 hours ago but then it was still on intrepid not on jaunty
[12:54] <hangyaboy> and what about opera?
[12:54] <azlon> mechdave, yeah add 0.0.0.0 then 255.255.255.0 then 192.168.0.1?
[12:54] <azlon> mechdave, ok, standby
[12:54] <indus> hangyaboy: or open a terminal and type   sudo apt-get install open-office
[12:55] <Appiah> remoteCTR1 are you using the offical ATI driver?
[12:55] <bobbob1016> How can I have a script read/write to a file, just needs too toggle between 0  and 1?
[12:55] <indus> hangyaboy: opera is available in partner repository
[12:55] <CHESLYN> hi everyone
[12:55] <dr3mro> ubottu but ext4 is fragmentable unlike ext3
[12:55] <hangyaboy> but is not working
[12:55] <indus> hangyaboy: you need to enable it from software sources >third party
[12:55] <indus> hangyaboy: what do u mean not working
[12:55] <MenZa> dr3mro: ext4 doesn't fragment as far as I know.
[12:55] <CHESLYN> how many ssh co you get
[12:55] <mechdave> azlon, damn, my head is spinning tonight :(
[12:55] <grawity> CHESLYN: What do you mean by that?
[12:56] <hangyaboy> i download it but give it some error message
[12:56] <remoteCTR1> Appiah, first of all i dont get the usual "there are drivers you could use" dialog from ubuntu and manually installing xorg-driver-fglrx renders the whole system completely unusable
[12:56] <CHESLYN> how many ssh do you get
[12:56] <azlon> mechdave, if this doesnt work i quit the rout thing... really need to get samba working
[12:56]  * mechdave yells "Stop the world I wanna get off"
[12:56] <grawity> CHESLYN: What do you mean by that?
[12:56] <mechdave> azlon, righto
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> hangyaboy: did you add the repository to your sources?
[12:56] <grawity> mechdave: The nearest bus stop is 2 minutes away, now sit down.
[12:56] <CHESLYN> open , close ect
[12:56] <azlon> mechdave, restart networking seemed to work... let me unplug the modem... brb
[12:56] <dr3mro> ubottu, http://www.pastebin.org/46234
[12:56] <grawity> CHESLYN: As many as you want?
[12:57] <remoteCTR1> gaaaawddddd
[12:57] <dr3mro> how to defrag EXT4 in jaunty ??? my partition is fragmented http://www.pastebin.org/46234
[12:57] <mechdave> grawity, Lol... it has been a long day
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> CHESLYN:  they dont sell it by the pound. :)   clairfy what you mean.
[12:57] <hangyaboy> what is that mean?
[12:57] <hangyaboy> sorry
[12:57] <Appiah> remoteCTR1: that's strange
[12:57] <VitaLife> Hello
[12:57] <Appiah> I know ATI drivers always been troubling on linux but I dont recall having that problem
[12:57] <VitaLife> I need help
[12:58] <remoteCTR1> Appiah, well i just reinstalled the whole operating system, this time jaunty of course and same condition as after upgrading from intrepid
[12:58] <grawity> VitaLife: Just ask your question.
[12:58] <mechdave> dr3mro, you need to run fsck on your volume from a live disk to check it properly
[12:58] <CHESLYN> for ie i want to install ssh on me pc so that i can connect it with the PS
[12:58] <lutius> I have problem with Amarok...it's not playing music...someone can help?
[12:58] <willy> hy gys
[12:58] <willy> i need
[12:59] <dr3mro> mechdave, so you suggest that fsck is not working properly
[12:59] <azlon> mechdave, no luck... oh welll
[12:59] <willy> some help...someone know how to install ioncube loader on ubuntu 8.10
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> hangyaboy: can you please type my name (you can use tab to complete it) so I know you are addressing me
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> hangyaboy: your name highlighting is not an accident
[12:59] <lutius> ActionParsnip: I have problem with Amarok...it's not playing music...can u help me?
[12:59] <mechdave> dr3mro, I am suggesting that fsck can not work properly on /dev/sda2 when /dev/sda2 is mounted
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> hangyaboy: ok run: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:59] <mechdave> dr3mro, :)
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> lutius: i dont use amarok, you could ask in #kubuntu
[13:00] <cadmuxe> hi
[13:00] <dr3mro> mechdave, i used it to check sda1 that is my / and it said its 0.1% and it was from my install the same but of sda2 it said 11%
[13:00] <lutius> ActionParsnip:
[13:00] <lutius> ActionParsnip: ok*
[13:00] <mechdave> azlon, I am installing 9.04 on my lappy
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> hangyaboy: scroll to the bottom of the file and paste this line:    deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free
[13:00] <azlon> mechdave, were you running 9.10 before? how do you like it?
[13:00] <hangyaboy> ok thanks
[13:00] <hangyaboy> i did right now
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> hangyaboy: save the file and close gedit
[13:00] <indus> ActionParsnip: cli man
[13:00] <mechdave> azlon, ok back up your iptables and then flush em :)
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> hangyaboy: in terminal run: wget -O – http://deb.opera.com/archive.key | sudo apt-key add -
[13:01] <dr3mro> /dev/sda1: 392348/1250928 files (0.2% non-contiguous), 2122088/4994199 blocks
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> hangyaboy: then run: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install opera
[13:01] <dr3mro> mechdave, /dev/sda1: 392348/1250928 files (0.2% non-contiguous), 2122088/4994199 blocks
[13:01] <azlon> mechdave, sudo iptables-save iptables.rules?
[13:01] <mechdave> azlon, it is much much sweeter than 9.04, I am running 9.10 on my desktop machine
[13:01] <mechdave> azlon, yep that will do
[13:01] <dr3mro> mechdave, /dev/sda2: 51778/8519680 files (11.2% non-contiguous), 27069498/34077881 blocks
[13:03] <azlon> mechdave, ok how do i flush them?
[13:03] <mechdave> dr3mro, unmount /dev/sda2 and run fsck.ext4 -p /dev/sda2 (the -p repairs automatically everything it can)
[13:03] <mechdave> azlon, iptables -F
[13:03] <dr3mro> mechdave, sda2 is my /home
[13:04] <hangyaboy> ActionParsnip: i klick on the link and i got the page
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> hangyaboy: i never said to click any link, you paste the text into the text files
[13:04] <mechdave> dr3mro, then reboot into a live disk and run it from there
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> hangyaboy: theres no clicking involved
[13:04] <dr3mro> mechdave, i am not asking how to fix it it checks my system on boot every 31 boots and fixs errors
[13:04] <hangyaboy> ActionParsnip: but from here i dont know what can i do
[13:04] <dr3mro> mechdave, i want to defrag
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> hangyaboy: thanks for the name thing too :D helps in a channel of 1400 users
[13:05] <j^> hi, http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=test&op=vindex is broken, anyone knows how needs to be pinged?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> hangyaboy: i told you, copy the line into the text file you opened with gedit
[13:05] <niko47> some know linux has defrag program ?
[13:05] <Appiah> not needed niko47
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> hangyaboy: your irc client sees a link so highlights it as a link but its simply to be copied and pasted and actioned how I said
[13:05] <grawity> j^: Use a different keyserver? The Ubuntu one was part of the SKS network, so just try pool.sks-keyservers.net for another one.
[13:05] <Appiah> or are you going to defrag fat/ntfs paritions?
[13:05] <mechdave> dr3mro, sorry I thought that is what you wanted... what would you like to know?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> !defrag | niko47
[13:05] <hangyaboy> ActionParsnip: ok thanks just give me few minit to made it
[13:06] <grawity> Appiah: His ext4 partition is 11% fragmented, as shown by fsck in his paste.
[13:06] <niko47> !defrag
[13:06] <dr3mro> mechdave, plz how to defrag ext4 file system on jaunty
[13:06] <Deathspike> Does anyone know why pidgin does not flash the task bar on a new IM?
[13:06] <dr3mro> niko defrag yes
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Deathspike: you need to tell it to do it
[13:06] <petar> anyone got the proper Modeline for the Samsung Syncmaster 2433BW?  I can't get that thing to work..
[13:07] <Deathspike> ActionParsnip: Where can I do this?
[13:07] <Appiah> niko47: e4defrag
[13:07] <mechdave> Doesn't preening the volume do the same thing as defrag?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Deathspike: in prefs -> conversations tab
[13:07] <niko47> thx
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Deathspike: read the options
[13:08] <j^> grawity, thanks, that helps me for now, just wanted to let you know of the problem too
[13:08] <grawity> j^: Eh, keyserver.ubuntu.com is down for more than a month already :(
[13:08] <Deathspike> ActionParsnip: Sorry, but I don't see the option. Everything is checked enabled there.
[13:08] <j^> oh
[13:08] <j^> will it ever be back?
[13:08] <dr3mro> Appiah, bash: e4defrag: command not found
[13:08] <azlon> mechdave, do i have to add those rules back from the ICS tutorial?
[13:08] <azlon> !ics
[13:08] <grawity> dr3mro: Install it from repos?
[13:09] <niko47> "defrag v0.07 by Con Kolivas"...
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Deathspike: maybe you need a later version
[13:09] <grawity> j^: I hope it will, but sysadmins tend to be lazy about such things if there are good alternatives :(
[13:09] <dr3mro> grawity, not in repos
[13:09] <azlon> mechdave, blah... when i flushed the tables i lost connection
[13:09] <Deathspike> ActionParsnip: The update manager tells me it is updated, or is the repository completely out of data again?
[13:10] <dr3mro> grawity, E: Couldn't find package e4defrag
[13:10] <azlon> mechdave, tables are still flushed but now i have to disable eth1 for the internet to work from ppp0. there must have been something in there telling it the internet source is ppp0
[13:10] <Appiah> dr3mro: think you need to get it first :)
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Deathspike: possibly, what version are you on?
[13:10] <dr3mro> Appiah, ?????????????
[13:10] <mechdave> azlon, yes if you look at the iptables -L now it should be empty
[13:11] <Appiah> dr3mro: ?????
[13:11] <azlon> mechdave, correct... completely blank
[13:11] <Deathspike> ActionParsnip: 2.5.5.. outdated it seems. Why isn't the Ubuntu repository updated? I thought everything was supposed to be automatic :S
[13:11] <raim0_> can I resize ntfs partition with ubuntu live cd without destroying data?
[13:11] <dr3mro> Appiah, i need to install e4defrag
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> Deathspike: because it works, the repos do not update themselves they are updated by the motu who are people
[13:11] <mechdave> azlon, righto now rebuild your ICS with that and then save that as something like iptables.ICS
[13:12] <Appiah> if you dont have , and you want to use it , i'd suggest so
[13:12] <Appiah> What ubuntu release are you running ext4 on?
[13:12] <niko47> raim0 yes but is hard resize it needs lot space defrag it and resize it.. -_-
[13:12] <Deathspike> ActionParsnip: Strange if you ask me :P Either way, flashing your task bar is a newer feature? :O
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> Deathspike: you can add: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/pidgin-developers/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main   to /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:12] <azlon> !ics
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> Deathspike: not sure, i use carrier
[13:12] <niko47> fast weay is copy then make partition..
[13:13] <raim0_> niko47: what do you mean?
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Deathspike: you'll also need: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com \     67265eb522bdd6b1c69e66ed7fb8bee0a1f196a8
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> gah
[13:13] <dr3mro> plz if e4defrag will be in karmic i will just go wth it and wait and if not i need to know how to do it with jaunty
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 67265eb522bdd6b1c69e66ed7fb8bee0a1f196a8
[13:13] <mechdave> azlon, [QUOTE] do i have to add those rules back from the ICS tutorial? [/QUOTE] yes mate
[13:13] <Deathspike> ActionParsnip: What is this repository? Updated software, or beta snapshots or something?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Deathspike: its the pidgin developers repo
[13:14] <azlon> mechdave, adding them now
[13:14] <willy> someone can help me whit ioncube?
[13:14] <mechdave> azlon, righto
[13:14] <niko47> raim0 sample 10gt partion using about 90% usage then resize it needs defrag all data inside partion it take lot time space start to end.. defrag then resize it.. -_-
[13:14] <grawity> Deathspike: http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu has the same instructions, if you still aren't sure.
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> !info ioncube
[13:15] <grawity> ActionParsnip: Note that Ubuntu's keyserver is a little unstable.
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> grawity: yeah true
[13:16] <azlon> mechdave, http://pastebin.com/d5526f798
[13:16] <azlon> mechdave, turning eth1 back on... fingers crossed
[13:16] <niko47> nice program fdupes =) thx
[13:16] <WzCocoon> Hello every body
[13:17] <azlon> mechdave, no luck... when i enabled eth1 my internet stopped
[13:18] <Deathspike> ActionParsnip: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 6E871C4A881574DE
[13:18] <mechdave> azlon, what does your default route look like?
[13:18] <willy> i need help to install ioncube on xampp
[13:18] <Deathspike> ActionParsnip: Uhm?
[13:18] <freakynl> hi, have the repositories for feisty (7.04) been removed?
[13:18] <jrib> !feisty | freakynl
[13:18] <jrib> !upgrade > freakynl
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> Deathspike: if the server doesnt reply after a few tries try: pgp.mit.edu
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> Deathspike: yes, you missed a command out
[13:19] <freakynl> jrib: thx
[13:19] <jrib> !pm | willy
[13:19] <WzCocoon> I need some help here since this morning my webcam start automaticlly and I cannot find the way to stop it any idea  thanks
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> Deathspike: followin partial guides can an will break your system
[13:19] <freakynl> #
[13:19] <freakynl> You can only directly upgrade to Ubuntu 9.04 from Ubuntu 8.10 (see UpgradeNotes).
[13:19] <anr78> Hey. Where can I find information about how the "install ubuntu inside windows"-feature works?
[13:19] <Deathspike> ActionParsnip: Well, what did I do wrong? Added it to the list (sources apt), added the key, tried updating.
[13:19] <mechdave> azlon, stick the command to set up your ICS and route info in /etc/rc.local
[13:19] <azlon> mechdave, kudos... we just spent like 50 hours messing with the routes and i dont remember to put it back the way it should be... ok ICS is working again
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> Deathspike: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver pgp.mit.edu 67265eb522bdd6b1c69e66ed7fb8bee0a1f196a8
[13:19] <mechdave> azlon, Lol
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> try: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver pgp.mit.edu 6E871C4A881574DE
[13:20] <azlon> mechdave, ok moved
[13:20] <freakynl> any way to upgrade from 7.04 to 8 tls w/o physical access? (can't put cd's in, and if ssh doesn't come up i'm screwed)
[13:21] <jrib> freakynl: yes.  Read the links
[13:21] <Deathspike> ActionParsnip: The second one seems to work. Can i delete the first? Or what is it for (Sorry with these questions, I know what I'm doing... on windows :p)
[13:21] <yva> hello can somebody help me to configure ssh_config to do a ssh B and then ssh C from B (I'm A)
[13:21] <yva> ?
[13:22] <jrib> freakynl: you can use the server upgrade method to go to 7.10 and then 8.04
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> Deathspike: can't see it causing any issues
[13:22] <Deathspike> ActionParsnip: That's a no go, I apparently need both.
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Deathspike: oh, weird
[13:23] <trakcyia> is there a way to have grub dump my entire boot partition to a virtual ramdisk, and then boot it?
[13:23] <mechdave> azlon, Ok your ICS config needs to be loaded by iptables-restore
[13:23] <Pehaper> elo
[13:23] <Deathspike> ActionParsnip: Updating now. I'll be back, thanks for the help :)
[13:23] <toan> Chao`
[13:23] <Pehaper> hello
[13:23] <anr78> If I install inside windows, does everything happen inside my ntfs partition?
[13:23] <niko47> trakcyia no ramdisk cleans all ways when computer shutdown..
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Deathspike: np bro
[13:23] <jrib> niko47: yes
[13:23] <toan> What?
[13:23] <mechdave> eg in /etc/rc.local it should read iptables-restore /path/to/iptables.ICS
[13:24] <mechdave> azlon, eg in /etc/rc.local it should read iptables-restore /path/to/iptables.ICS
[13:24] <jrib> niko47: read the wubi site's documentation
[13:24] <trakcyia> niko47: i'm aware that system ram is volatile, that is preferred
[13:24] <toan> do u have a best themes
[13:24] <Deathspike> The hell? Pidgin can update while running?
[13:25] <joaopinto> Deathspike, any regular app on linux can, but the changes will just take effect after restarting the app
[13:25] <grawity> Deathspike: In Linux, when a program is running, you can do anything you want to the actual file.
[13:25] <azlon> mechdave, uhmm... i think i have a problem
[13:25] <Deathspike> That's cool ^_^ Thanks, brb then
[13:25] <grawity> Deathspike: The entire program is loaded to memory and doesn't care if it still exists. (I once had to kill apache a week after removing it.)
[13:25] <mechdave> azlon, what is that?
[13:26] <azlon> mechdave, i thought rc.local was a directory... i replaced my rc.local with that script you gave me
[13:26] <aum> hello everyone...
[13:26] <mechdave> azlon, that is ok, just a sec
[13:27] <niko47> some know good settings hdparm ?
[13:27] <niko47> "hdparm -a2048 -X69 -d1 -u1 -m16 -c3" is good ?
[13:27] <aum> my active window changes when i move my mouse...i dont want this feature...can anyone help in that...?
[13:27] <joaopinto> niko, man hdparm
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> Deathspike: better?
[13:27] <Deathspike> ActionParsnip: It successfully updated, but sadly the taskbar still isn't flashing on a new message.
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Deathspike: check the conversations tab again
[13:28] <niko47> can ram defraded ?
[13:28] <Roland> how to make an application have the rights to write to /usr/lib ?
[13:28] <Deathspike> ActionParsnip: Did that :) However, nothing new was added. Lots of options in the Interface tab were added, however.
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> Deathspike: good stuff hu :)
[13:29] <Kartagis> is it normal for fdisk to take more than 1 minute to write disk partitioning table?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> not sure then, you have the latest from the pidgins mouth
[13:29] <Deathspike> Hm
[13:29] <Deathspike> Oh crap can the theme screw this up.. of course it can..
[13:29] <joaopinto> Kartagis, no
[13:30] <mechdave> azlon, http://paste.ubuntu.com/294641/ if you want a copy, but it does nothing as standard
[13:30] <Deathspike> ActionParsnip: I've been reading about a bug where it doesn't work when not using tabs? Can this be it? :o
[13:31] <niko47> some know temp cpu application ?
[13:31] <aum> my active window changes when i move my mouse...i dont want this feature...can anyone help in that...?
[13:31] <kermit> how do i access an sd card?
[13:31] <mechdave> azlon, just add to the new rc.local file the path to the setup-route script
[13:32] <mechdave> azlon, and then on a new line add iptables-restore /path/to/iptables-ICS
[13:33] <niko47> kermit look sd card try fdisk -l in root get sd device name.. then mount it..
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Deathspike: you now know more than me dude
[13:33] <mechdave> azlon, then do a reboot and see what happens
[13:33] <Guest11864> ranjan:
[13:34] <_stack> hi, I have a problem with avahi-daemon , I use mt-daapd to share the music in my local network, so I installed avahi that starts on boot, but I need to restart it via init.d script in order to really visualize the music share from other computers, is that a problem in the ubuntu init.d avahi-daemon script?
[13:35] <azlon> mechdave, brb
[13:35] <yva> nobody for a ssh_config?
[13:35] <yva> or an idea where I could ask
[13:35] <xc> who can tell me what is the use of 17188 port?
[13:35] <kermit> niko47: the sd card doesnt show up on fdisk -l
[13:35] <Nickos> xc: nmap ?
[13:36] <jrib> yva: ask an actual question
[13:36] <kermit> niko47: i sware this once worked very easily, just like my webcam once did, i don't know how i broke them both.
[13:36] <yva> jrib> to configure ssh_config to do a ssh B and then ssh C from B (I'm A)
[13:37] <mechdave> xc, psmond          1788/tcp    psmond
[13:37] <mechdave> psmond          1788/udp    psmond see http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers for more
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> yva:  ssh  is documented in details at dozens of web sites and books/guides..   Theres proberly examples of doing what you want somewhere out there.
[13:37] <yva> Dr_Willis> I've searched google etc and found something but it doesn't work and I got no idea why
[13:38] <jrib> yva: you want to "ssh chain"
[13:38] <Mehedi> how can i chat in ubuntu?
[13:38] <xc> what is nmap?
[13:38] <jrib> yva: here you go, read the first comment: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=574891
[13:38] <niko47> kermit try dmesg|grep usb
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> Mehedi:  you are chattig in the #ubuntu channel now..  care to claify the question?
[13:39] <niko47> nmap is port scanner..
[13:39] <grawity> xc: nmap is a portscanner. (Try 'nmap localhost' to see what it does.)
[13:40] <yva> jrib> that's exactly what I tried to do in ssh_config but it fail
[13:40] <grawity> yva: Pastebin whatever you tried.
[13:40] <Mehedi> how can do social chat in ubuntu?
[13:40] <xc> can you tell me what is the port of nmap?
[13:40] <grawity> xc: nmap does not use any ports itself.
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> xc:  nmap can scann ALL ports
[13:41] <grawity> xc: nmap only _scans_ _all_ ports.
[13:41] <jrib> Mehedi: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> ut nmap must listen on a port for return messages
[13:41] <azlon> mechdave, no luck... and no samba shares
[13:41] <grawity> ActionParsnip: Not really - it either simply uses connect(), or listens on the interface directly.
[13:43] <mechdave> azlon, this is bad.. what did you put in the rc.local file?
[13:43] <KoolD> hey guys how do i solve this. hal_system_smbi is consuming 100% of the cpu. what do i do to stop this?
[13:43] <jirik> Hi, could anyone help me with fixing ext3 file system? I have serious problem anf classic fsck did not help
[13:43] <azlon> mechdave, http://paste.ubuntu.com/294644/
[13:43] <niko47> koold kill it ?
[13:43] <butti> hey all
[13:44] <yva> jrib, grawity > http://paste.ubuntu.com/294653/
[13:44] <niko47> or try look hal_system_smbi inside what is file open..
[13:44]  * butti have problems wioth booting after upgrade
[13:44] <KoolD> niko47: it cannot be killed.
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> KoolD: sudo kill -9     it
[13:45] <niko47> what version ubuntu ?
[13:45] <remco_> Hey all, I have a problem with my mouse with 9.04. The keyboard works, and the mouse arrow works, but I cant click anymore (Sometimes right click first it comes back but then goes again). Can anyone help ??
[13:45] <xc> what is  17188 port  listen means?
[13:45] <mechdave> azlon, did you save the config we did on iptables for ICS the second time?
[13:45] <remco_> I tried 3-4 different mouse that all work fine with the same result..
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> remco_: are you using desktop effects?
[13:45] <remco_> it seems to randomly do this
[13:46] <niko47> listen means u have server application using that port ?
[13:46] <yva> jrib, grawity and I got the error /home/yva/.ssh/config: line 3: Bad configuration option: ssh
[13:46] <azlon> mechdave, yeah... let me get my iptables again
[13:46] <jrib> yva: you missed the \
[13:46] <mechdave> niko, it means there is a program listening for connections on that port
[13:47] <remco_> I use compiz ..(It was working fine till now...but could that be the problem ?)
[13:47] <Necrathex> is there a way to use desktop effects with multi monitor?
[13:47] <chilli0> Hi , my computer is at 105C ( Thats the boiling point of water..) And im not sure why it gets so hot. I know it happens when i run CS in wine ( my computer is a laptop. Its a good computer dual core 2.6 1gig nvidia card. Anyone know why its getting so hot/
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> remco_: try: press alt+f2   run:  metacity --replace
[13:47] <yva> jrib> no I tried with and without and it gives the same error, the error is on the last line
[13:47] <mechdave> azlon, ok now where you did this --> iptables-restore /etc/network/set-routes-ppp0.sh make it read the path to your ICS file
[13:47] <KoolD> ActionParsnip:the process seems to restart every second or so thats why i cannot get a constant pid to kill it. killall also doesnt work. i get process not found error although i can see the process when i run the top command
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> remco_: if it then works its a bad compiz config (compiz can interfere with this)
[13:47] <niko47> wine using lot cpu usage... -_-
[13:47] <jrib> yva: pastebin what you tried with the \
[13:48] <azlon> mechdave, dude it looks like all that crap is in there again... i need to flush them and add the lines from the tutorial... how do i save after i do this?
[13:48] <AnirbanHazra>  anybody willing to have flash software or site can contact me. We design them at affordable rates
[13:48] <yva> jrib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/294657/
[13:48] <mechdave> azlon, use iptables-save > iptables.ICS
[13:48] <ndlovu> anyone know of a security handbook or guide for ubuntu?
[13:49] <mechdave> ndlovu, try http://tldp.org
[13:49] <jrib> yva: then the \ was only for the comment, place the command on the same line...
[13:49] <azlon> mechdave, k brb
[13:49] <remco_> ok my mouse is working right now...so hard to check, but just did that and the top desktop bar changed... I'll try it again when the mouse click freezes... Thanks !
[13:50] <unimatrix> why does nvidia's driver need all of my CPU to run 2D games?
[13:50] <dam0> hey
[13:50] <remco_> btw thanks I never had help so quickly on here :)
[13:50] <settatobene> ciao
[13:50] <settatobene> !List
[13:50] <Appiah> what game? all games? do you have compiz running unimatrix ?
[13:50] <Appiah> is it a laptop?
[13:51] <unimatrix> Appiah: for example xmoto and openttd... i know this because i managed to fix it by meddling with nvidia-settings yesterday... only today the problem is back and it wont go away
[13:51] <kermit> niko47: dmesg doesnt say anything new when i put the card in
[13:51] <MenZa> !it | settatobene
[13:51] <yva> jrib> Pseudo-terminal will not be allocated because stdin is not a terminal.
[13:51] <BlouBlou> unimatrix: have you got integrated graphic card?
[13:51] <Appiah> unimatrix: you dont have extra visual effects or somehting? a laptop maybe?
[13:52] <lucky__> hi friends, my name is Lucky. I am unable to install compiz in ubuntu 9.04. I am getting this error when i type compiz and press enter :     Checking for Xgl: not present.
[13:52] <lucky__> xset q doesn't reveal the location of the log file. Using fallback /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:52] <lucky__> Blacklisted PCIID '8086:2562' found
[13:52] <lucky__> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[13:52] <FloodBot3> lucky__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:52] <unimatrix> Appiah: it worked with compiz yesterday so that's not the problem
[13:52] <niko47> kermit then usb port broken or u have dont have mobprobe usb up ?
[13:52] <jrib> yva: just use the command at the beggining of the comment then
[13:52] <BlouBlou> !paste | lucky__
[13:52] <yva> jrib> the one with -t?
[13:53] <Appiah> lucky__: try enabling it from system -> preferences -> appearance - visual effects
[13:53] <jrib> yva: yeah
[13:53] <unimatrix> BlouBlou: no it's a geforce 6600, agp
[13:53] <Appiah> unimatrix: find anything in /var/log/messages or dmesg?
[13:53] <yva> jrib> that's what I use now
[13:53] <lucky__> when I do so i am getting message as Desktop effects could not be enabled.
[13:53] <yva> but 'd like to be able to use ssh_config
[13:54] <unimatrix> Appiah: no, i think as far as nvidia is concerned it's working correctly :/
[13:54] <mechdave> azlon, I have a few additions to your iptables for you
[13:54] <lucky__> What is  "Blacklisted PCIID '8086:2562' found"? I am new to ubuntu. please help me?
[13:55] <caution> which version of ubuntu should I install on my low spec 64bit machine if I want good reliability, compatability and maximum performance? 8.04, 8.10, 9.04 and 32 or 64-bit?
[13:55] <niko47> glxgears get fps... test using display grafic..
[13:56] <unimatrix> Appiah: yesterday i changed my resolution to 1024x768 and ran xmoto, and it worked perfectly (less than 5% CPU),... today i tried the same thing and xmoto still eats up all of my CPU :S
[13:56] <unimatrix> i think i'll just go back to windows, this is hopeless
[13:56] <niko47> unimatrix how much effect you using all or note ?
[13:56] <AmyTek> hi all, anyone can help me in some pppd and ipv6 setup?
[13:56] <unimatrix> niko47 same as yesterday
[13:57] <jrib> yva: read the thread: http://www.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.security.ssh/2004-04/0075.html
[13:58] <indus> bye all and happy diwali to whom it matters
[13:59] <caution> should I install 32 or 64 bit ubuntu on my low spec 64 bit machine?
[13:59] <JacobT> hey room my system seems to be doing weird things, update maanager and install programs and other thigns like that seem to turn gray and Just hang
[14:00] <nimrod> movie player just freezes my laptop.
[14:00] <niko47> try ffplay very slow cpu usage..
[14:00] <nimrod> help
[14:00] <azlon> mechdave, dude, no bueno... this is totally fying my brain right now... let me paste this iptable stuff
[14:01] <niko47> when i try looking firefox movies i use ffplay playing it..
[14:01] <mechdave> azlon, ok, have to go soon... will help you as much as I can
[14:01] <niko47> using script "ffplay /tmp/Flash*"
[14:01] <ennio> italiano??
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> !it
[14:02] <lucky__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/294670/
[14:02] <nimrod> do i use aptitude to install ffplay?
[14:02] <shyam_k> on my desktop, most of the time, mouse clicks won't work. It won't detect mouse clicks, and some other time single click is counted as double click. so mouse is Totally un usable and frustrating:) i tried changing from ps/2 mouse to usb mouse and the same problem remains. what can i do?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> caution: if you have < 3Gb ram and just want a desktop, 32bit is fine, if you have > 3Gb ram and/or want to do audio/video encoding then 64bit will give a boost
[14:02] <azlon> mechdave, http://paste.ubuntu.com/294671/
[14:03] <lucky__> Please look into my issue:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/294670/
[14:03] <caution> ActionParsnip: what's the disadvantage of 64bit on <3GB ram?
[14:03] <joaopinto> you can use > 3GB with 32 bits :)
[14:03] <AmyTek> anyone can help me please?
[14:03] <azlon> mechdave, i flushed the tables, added the ICS info, then wasnt able to ping google. i dropped eth1 and was able to ping google. brought eth1 back up, changed my routes and was able to ping google, but then my iptables were crazy again
[14:03] <niko47> sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[14:03] <joaopinto> caution, nothing special to the ram size, you could require 32 bits only closed source apps
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> caution: nothing, 64bit can simply address a greater pool of ram, 32bit can address ~3.2Gb, 64bit can address 4 exabytes
[14:04] <joaopinto> ActionParsnip, you can use > 3GB with 32 bits using PAE, you can't just do it with for a single process
[14:04] <caution> what's the speed difference like between 9.04 and 8.04?
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> caution: it will also allow you to upgrade past 4Gb (if you mobo supports it) without need for a reinstall
[14:04] <nimrod> Thanx NIko47
[14:05] <joaopinto> caution, you can't compare releases like that
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> joaopinto: yeah ive seen pae, i think its a bit ungraceful, but is an option
[14:05] <NorthMan> twitlive
[14:05] <niko47> np
[14:05] <mechdave> azlon, what you need to do is flush your iptables, set up the ICS and then set your route without taking down any interfaces
[14:06] <niko47> rc.local put "ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.1"
[14:06] <azlon> mechdave, when i set up the new tables (after i flush them) i cannot ping anything until i take down eth1 and bring it back up. my routes are already set correctly after i do the ICS stuff
[14:07] <mechdave> azlon, something is wrong here
[14:07] <niko47> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing setup
[14:08] <mechdave> azlon, what happens if you set route first?
[14:08] <azlon> mechdave, set route, then flush the tables then add ICS? same results
[14:08] <SoPy> hi i use cherrypy on jaunty and cannot find cherryd is, can someone help we with thtat
[14:08] <kane77> Why is the default theme always named Human, wouldn't it make sense to name it differently each time? this way it would be possible to find and install previous themes..
[14:08] <HexTasy_> are there any kernel options I can pass to the LiveCD on boot to use a NFS direcetory instead of the cdrom?
[14:09] <mechdave> azlon, I am going to have to do some reading, I suggest you go to http://netfilter.org/documentation/index.html#documentation-howto and look at the docs as well... start with the first one called networking concepts
[14:09] <kermit> niko47: modprobe usb?  'module not found'
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> kane77: submit it as an idea on http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[14:10] <mechdave> azlon, and work you way through the docs
[14:10] <azlon> mechdave, ok i will have to read them at work tomorrow... thanks for your help
[14:10] <mechdave> azlon, I have to go to bed and it has done my head in too :(
[14:11] <mechdave> azlon, sorry I couldn't fix it tonight
[14:11] <niko47> modprobe usbhid
[14:11] <azlon> mechdave, ok i will see you on sunday... its all good man thanks
[14:11] <ubuntunewbie> hi everyone
[14:11] <mechdave> azlon, no worries cya
[14:12] <ubuntunewbie> Would like to know is there anyway to use Thunderbird to download email from yahoo mail and view it offline + backup ?
[14:12] <SoPy> there is no cherryd in python-cherrypy3 rep. pkg ??
[14:12] <kermit> niko47: that loaded, there's nothing about my sd card though (in dmesg)
[14:12] <ubuntunewbie> If Thunderbird can't download ,which other email client can do it ?
[14:12] <ubuntunewbie> thank  you :)
[14:13] <niko47> modprobe usb-uhci|modprobe usb-ohci|modprobe usb-storage try this
[14:13] <joaopinto> SoPy, cherrypy is not a regular daemon, please check it's docs
[14:13] <niko47> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/usb-drive-not-being-recognized-under-linux/ same link..
[14:13] <lucky__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/294670/
[14:13] <lucky__> Please help me
[14:13] <joaopinto> and afaik python-cherrypy3 is broken on jaunty
[14:13] <azlon> for some reason i cant access my samba shares... what would be the first step in troubleshooting this
[14:14] <lucky__> Please help me.......      http://paste.ubuntu.com/294670/
[14:14] <niko47> u have iptables access 135 ?
[14:14] <kermit> niko47: usb-storage loaded, the other 2 werent found, and there's still nothing about my sd card though (in dmesg)
[14:15] <niko47> iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m multiport -s 192.168.0.x --destination-ports 445,135,136,137,138,139 -j ACCEPT
[14:15] <SoPy> joaopinto: cherryd should be a part of this pkg its a feature of cpyv3
[14:15] <niko47> u need install usb-uhci and usb-ohci..
[14:16] <joaopinto> SoPy, I am using cherrypy, I am not familiar with cherryd
[14:16] <SoPy> joaopinto: any idea, how i can get it to my ubuntu box in spite of it is broken?
[14:16] <kermit> niko47: it used to work, where would those modules have gone?
[14:17] <azlon> my samba shares stopped after i setup ics... how can i fix this?
[14:17] <joaopinto> SoPy, there is no "cherryd" on the original cherrypy3 source, so I have no idea what are you refering to
[14:17] <SoPy> http://www.cherrypy.org/browser/trunk/cherrypy/cherryd
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> azlon: sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[14:18] <joaopinto> SoPy, that's trunk, not a release version
[14:18] <SoPy> it is also in the source
[14:18] <joaopinto> oh wait
[14:18] <joaopinto> got the wrong source
[14:19] <joaopinto> sorry :P
[14:20] <SoPy> im scared to download the pkg and install the module raw, i remember the last time i compiled something on my own that apt has stopped working :/
[14:20] <joaopinto> there is a cherryd on the karmic package, since jaunty's is broken you would need to build it yourself
[14:20] <azlon> ActionParsnip, genius... how can i make it auto start?
[14:20] <RS-232> Hi all
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> azlon: strange it doesnt, you could always add: /etc/init.d/samba start      to /etc/rc.local
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> azlon: it should be part of the startup processes
[14:21] <RS-232> Why in Ubuntu whenever I connect to a XP share drive (Samba) even if there is no password created in the XP machine, Ubuntu keeps asking me for a password, I can't let it empty...So I have to add a password to the XP machine!! ¿??
[14:21] <joaopinto> SoPy, http://archive.getdeb.net/getdeb/ubuntu/pool/apps/c/cherrypy3/python-cherrypy3_3.1.2-1~getdeb1_all.deb
[14:22] <RS-232> Is there any reason why a Share drive should have by force a Password in order to connect to it with Samba???
[14:22] <RS-232> I noticed this only when using Ubuntu
[14:22] <SoPy> joaopinto: kewl ty
[14:22] <kermit> RS-232: how do you connect to an smb share from ubuntu?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> RS-232: the account you connect with must have a password
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> RS-232: blank passwords show poor security awarenes
[14:22] <RS-232> ActionParsnip: yeah but Why??? When doing the same from an XP machine you can enter without a password
[14:23] <RS-232> ActionParsnip: it is a local machine in my local network here at home..
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> RS-232: is the same account name on the other system with the same password?
[14:23] <RS-232> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu asks for a user name and a password, the user name is the same at the share drive machine, but no password
[14:24] <RS-232> so I have to add a password to the account just because of this.
[14:24] <Arelis> So, i'm sort of in a vendor lock-in - I have an iPod Nano, guitar equipment that only works on mac/windows, a Wacom tablet that isn't as well supported on Linux as it is on mac/windows, and I don't know whether Linux is usable for professional graphical work such as 2D animation - And I want to break out. How?
[14:24] <azlon> ActionParsnip, i still cant see my shared folders. i can see the computer in the network places (windows) but i cant access it... says not a valid network location
[14:24] <azlon> ActionParsnip, it was working great until i setup ICS
[14:25] <RS-232> Arelis: sorry but I have here on front of me a WACOM tablet working corrrectly without installing anything special, the Ubuntu default isntallation detected it
[14:25] <niko47>  sudo modprobe sd_mod|modprobe usbcore|modprobe uhci|modprobe usb-ohci|modprobe usb-storage
[14:25] <Arelis> RS-232: (Last time I tried was Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon)
[14:25] <RS-232> Arelis: I am now in Jaunty and it is working fine
[14:25] <tipi> Need help in recovering, system>preferences in gnome. Deleted them accidentally in alacarte.
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> RS-232: you may need to set: sudo smbpasswd -a $USER    to set your samba password, you can then chaeck the account is replicated on the windows side and you should be able to walk in
[14:26] <grawity> tipi: IIRC, alacarte's edits are stored in ~/.local/share/applications/
[14:26] <Arelis> RS-232: But then there's the other things.. Is Linux usable for professional graphical work such as 2D animation? And how would I get my guitar equipment working?
[14:26] <RS-232> Arelis: you have Gimp for picture edition, as a replacement for PhotoShop
[14:27] <RS-232> Arelis: Cinerrela as replacement for Adobe Premier
[14:27] <JacobT> can someone help me
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> azlon: check if its running in: ps -ef | less
[14:27] <azlon> ActionParsnip, should i just reinstall samba?
[14:27] <RS-232> Arelis: however CAD is a big LACK in Linux if that is you interest
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> azlon: also check its listening in: netstat -a
[14:27] <RS-232> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> azlon: worth a shot, not a bad idea
[14:27] <Arelis> RS-232: I don't care about CAD
[14:27] <tipi> @grawity thx, but still dont know how to fix it
[14:28] <RS-232> Arelis: what is the software you used to use in MAC?
[14:28] <bernardo_> hi gius
[14:28] <bernardo_> *guys
[14:28] <azlon> ActionParsnip, ok i see it running in ps -ef | less now let me check netstat
[14:28] <bernardo_> I want to install ubuntu on my pendrive, should I download the PC (Intel x86) desktop CD or Marvell Dove desktop image?
[14:29] <RS-232> Arelis: probably you should talking about what software you wanted to have in Linux and we will respond you
[14:30] <Arelis> RS-232: Line 6 POD FARM for amp modeling, Audacity for recording (But I switched to REAPER because Audacity is not good on a Mac), Safari (because Firefox doesn't work), Adium (but I prefer Pidgin), I used to use the GIMP but I switched over to Photoshop - I don't see what's so much better about it, Adobe Flash CS3/CS4 (I DEFINETLY need this), there's some other things but I have to search for them on my Mac.
[14:31] <RS-232> Arelis: Well for Safari you have : Firefox, Opera, Epiphany, etc...
[14:31] <RS-232> Arelis: for your IPOD you have Amarok
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> !ipod
[14:31] <llutz> Arelis: you definetly don't want a linux system
[14:32] <RS-232> Arelis: for Adobe Flahs (Macromedia ) I am sorry...but Flash and Linux don't get on very vwell however you can use SVG library and others, there are 1000 threads in internet talking about this
[14:32] <Arelis> llutz: Is it so bad for stuff like that?
[14:32] <bernardo_> there's no support for ipod touch/iphone 3.0 syncing at linux, which sucks
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> !ipod | bernardo_
[14:32] <llutz> Arelis: if you insist on that listed software, yes
[14:32] <erUSUL> bernardo_: blame apple;
[14:33] <RS-232> bernardo_: that is not true sorry, I have both my ipod and iphone working in linux
[14:33] <Arelis> llutz: Well, I insist on using Flash, but Macromedia Flash MX is okay too.
[14:33] <azlon> ActionParsnip, still not working after reinstall. could it have to do with the fact that i changed my default route?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> bernardo_: you could install rockbox on your ipod and make your ipod suck less
[14:33] <RS-232> Arelis: for modeling you have BLENDER
[14:33] <llutz> Arelis: linux is a bad win-app-starter
[14:33] <cwe_moodh> hhhhhhh
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> azlon: maybe, you'd ave to check your samba logs to see if connections are getting in
[14:33] <Arelis> llutz: Hasn't WINE improved since those 2 years?
[14:34] <mrwes> I'm having issues with Skype; the video screen is very small, and it will not double or go full screen
[14:34] <llutz> Arelis: ask in #winehq, but as i said: it makes no sense to use a linux-system to work with win-apps
[14:34] <tipi> Need help in recovering, system>preferences in gnome. Deleted them accidentally in alacarte.
[14:34] <RS-232> Arelis: and ALWAYS if all the options have run out, you can start up a SUN Virtual Machine with your XP or OS Leopard image and run what you need
[14:34] <erUSUL> Arelis: llutz is right wine is only a band aid
[14:34] <RS-232> Arelis: I do that when I need to work with Solidworks (I am a mechanical Engineer)
[14:35] <Arelis> erUSUL: But it runs games, right?
[14:35] <cwe_moodh> hahahaha
[14:35] <rockman> hi
[14:35] <RS-232> games?
[14:35] <niko47> some but not all games..
[14:35] <erUSUL> Arelis: yes i use it for guild wars (platinum rating in appdb)
[14:35] <erUSUL> !appdb | Arelis
[14:36] <RS-232> World Of Warcraft and Warhammer work in Wine like a charm
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> some win games work, some work weird, some wont even install, some have native installers like doom3
[14:36] <Arelis> But, would the Mac be better for working in the professional graphical industry, or is Linux sufficient?
[14:37] <remoteCTR1> ok just in case anybody ever asks this again: AMD has completely dropped support for non hd cards that is the reason why an x1400 f.ex. wont work with amd drivers on jaunty anymore
[14:37] <bernardo_> ActionParsnip, there is no rockbox for iphone/ipod touch
[14:37] <Pici> remoteCTR1: It works fine with the open drivers
[14:37] <bernardo_> RS-232, you have an iphone or ipod touch at firmware 3.0+ syncing?
[14:37] <mrwes> no skype users in Jaunty?
[14:38] <bernardo_> I want to install ubuntu at the USB drive because the netbook doesn't have a CD drive... should I download the .iso or .img file?
[14:38] <RS-232> bernardo_: My iPhone is >3.0, jailbroken, and also redsnowed...and yes, it works like a charm with Amarok...I had to do some console work of course, but it works better than with iTunes. In internet there are many guides for this
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> bernardo_: if you read: http://www.rockbox.org/
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> bernardo_: it says: Apple: 1st through 5.5th generation iPod, iPod Mini and 1st generation iPod Nano
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> (not the Shuffle, 2nd/3rd/4th gen Nano, Classic or Touch)
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> so no
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> but in the future
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> wo knows
[14:39] <FloodBot3> ActionParsnip: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:39] <bernardo_> RS-232, you can sync apps?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> im off to bed kids
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> peace
[14:39] <trijntje> Hi all, i recently had to remove virtualbox, but now i want to reinstall (synaptic) it I get: package virtualbox-2.1 is not availabe, but exists in the database
[14:39] <trijntje> how can i install virtualbox again?
[14:40] <RS-232> bernardo_: no apps of course, because you need to access Apple Store man! and only iTunes knows that..but I can do anything else for music, podcasts, etc..
[14:40] <niko47> or qemu..
[14:40] <Len_> dumb question: Only one group can be setted by folder?
[14:40] <Arelis> RS-232: But, would the Mac be better for working in the professional graphical industry, or is Linux sufficient?
[14:40] <Len_> dumb question: Only one group can be setted by folder or file??
[14:40] <bernardo_> certainly mac Arelis
[14:40] <llutz> trijntje: sudo aptitude install virtualbox-ose
[14:40] <llutz> trijntje: needs universe-repo enabled
[14:40] <RS-232> Arelis: that is something that you have to find out.
[14:41] <grawity> Len_: In Unix, a file has _one_ owner, and _one_ group.
[14:41] <Len_> grawity: same for folder ?
[14:41] <ubuntunewbie> hi everyone
[14:41] <RS-232> Arelis: in my case for CAD->Windows, ANYTHING ELSE -> Linux :).... well, I forgot, for games ->Windows... that the best thing it does
[14:41] <ubuntunewbie> Would like to know is there anyway to use Thunderbird to download email from yahoo mail and view it offline + backup ?
[14:41] <grawity> Len_: Yes. Same for everything in the filesystem.
[14:41] <ubuntunewbie> If Thunderbird can't download ,which other email client can do it ?
[14:41] <llutz> Arelis: if you prefer to work with native apps without emulations/virtualisation, use your mac
[14:41] <ubuntunewbie> thank  you :)
[14:41] <Arelis> bernardo_: Then I want to customize my Mac to work kind of like Linux - I want a sort of fluxbox, that allows me to customize key shortcuts, and I don't want the Dock. And I want to be able to write programs for anything that is not available.
[14:41] <FloodBot3> ubuntunewbie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:41] <trijntje> llutz, do i have to reboot after install to get virtualbox working?
[14:41] <llutz> trijntje: no
[14:41] <Pici> !offtopic | Arelis
[14:42] <Xcell> ubuntunewbie- .. yes there is a way.. but that depends on your ubuntu experience
[14:42] <grawity> Len_: Linux has an extension to that - ACLs - they allow setting other users and groups (not just the owner) - but they aren't supported in all systems. (It's possible to use in Ubuntu, but you have to enable them manually.)
[14:42] <Len_> grawity: so We dont have the possibility to have a set of users to read/write in a folder other just to read and other can't read at all?
[14:42] <RS-232> Arelis: after 4 years, I can't even imagine my life without Linux !
[14:43] <Len_> grawity: ACL stands for?
[14:43] <trijntje> llutz, lol, that worked. I already tried that twice. Thanks
[14:43] <erUSUL> Len_: make a group for that users
[14:43] <Xcell> ubuntunewbie-   http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/internet/firefox/get-your-yahoo-mail-in-mozilla-thunderbird-for-free/
[14:43] <ubuntunewbie> Xcell: I am new :(
[14:43] <grawity> Len_: "Access Control List" -- a list of users (or groups) and their permissions.
[14:43] <erUSUL> Len_: then set group permissions as apropiate
[14:43] <Arelis> RS-232: The problem with a dual-boot of Mac and Linux on this PC is, first, it's risky, because I have to replace the EFI - and second, I keep using the Mac side more because all the things apps I need for my daily activities are there.
[14:43] <grawity> erUSUL: But only one group can be set.
[14:43] <RS-232> Len_: Access Control Lists?
[14:43] <grawity> erUSUL: And Len_ needs two groups - one for r/w, other for read-only. (And the rest with no access.)
[14:44] <Slart> if I have 3 files with each file containing 1 number per line.. how can I make a file with 3 columns of numbers.. 1st column for 1st file, 2nd column for 2nd file and so on?
[14:44] <erUSUL> grawity: ah ok; did not know all requirements :)
[14:44] <Len_> erUSUL: :)
[14:44] <erUSUL> !info eicel | Len_
[14:44] <trijntje> ubuntunewbie, welcome to ubuntu :)
[14:44] <erUSUL> !info eiciel | Len_
[14:44] <erUSUL> Len_: that will make all far easier ;)
[14:44] <ubuntunewbie> Xcell: so how about hotmail ? I mean live mail ?
[14:45] <ubuntunewbie> trijntje: hi  trijntje :)
[14:45] <Len_> grawity, erUSUL Thx for help, I was just curious
[14:45] <Len_> I'll read about ACL later
[14:45] <trijntje> how can i get evolution to keep a backup of emails I remove from the IMAP server?
[14:46] <bernardo_> hi guys... if I download beta 9.10 will I need to upgrade to oficial 9.10 or will it just an update at update manager?
[14:46] <bernardo_> *or will it just be
[14:47] <fredl> hi guys, do the devices under /dev/mapper/ get created dynamicaly from the initrd by udevd at boot time?
[14:47] <trijntje> bernardo_, it will update to stable when it is released
[14:47] <LaireTM> Hello, when make a right click on a mounted medium an choose the section "Share Folder" (Hope that is the english name for this section, because have a german installation) is that the same like share with samba? Can I connect to this medium from a PC with Win?
[14:47] <trijntje> bernardo_, if nothing breaks first, make a backup of your data ;)
[14:47] <Len_> grawity, erUSUL or anyone: chmod g+s will make the news files/folder inhirent the same group of the its parent?
[14:48] <grawity> Len_: Yes.
[14:48] <Komak57> i need to edit GRUB's default OS, which file/term command do i need?
[14:48] <grawity> Komak57: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[14:48] <erUSUL> Len_: yes
[14:48] <bernardo_> trijntje, I have a PC with 9.04, I will need to upgrade to 9.10 if I want, right? It won't be at update manager, correct?
[14:48] <Komak57> thanks grawity
[14:48] <grawity> bernardo_: New releases _should_ be in the update manager
[14:49] <trijntje> bernardo_, you want to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 beta?
[14:49] <Arelis> member:RS-232: The problem with a member:dual-boot of Mac and Linux on this PC is, first, it's risky, because I have to replace the EFI - and second, I keep using the Mac side more because all the apps I need for playing guitar or making drawings are on Mac OS X.
[14:49] <Len_> grawity: so ls -l shoud come with S instead of x in grps?
[14:49] <bernardo_> trijntje, no, I have a PC with 9.04 and I want to install 9.10 beta on another PC... but at the PC with 9.04 I will want to upgrade to 9.10
[14:49] <bernardo_> is upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 a delight or can problems happen?
[14:50] <tsimpson> bernardo_: when it's releases there will be an upgrade option from the update manager
[14:50] <grawity> Len_: No, it should show 's' (lowercase)
[14:50] <violet523> what package name is open sshd under?
[14:50] <trijntje> bernardo_, you can upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 without problems, when 9.10 is released
[14:50] <grawity> violet523: openssh-server
[14:50] <Len_> grawity: what's the difference? I got a big S
[14:50] <violet523> grawity: kk ty
[14:50] <grawity> Len_: 's' means both execute and setgid are set.
[14:51] <grawity> Len_: 'S' means setgid is set, but execute is not.
[14:51] <trijntje> bernardo_, last ubuntu upgrade I was playing a shooter while updating, its that painless ;)
[14:52] <llutz> trijntje: wait a few day and see how "painless" it is :)
[14:52] <William-Ubuntu>  /msg NickServ identify william
[14:52] <fredl> hi guys, do the devices under /dev/mapper/ get created dynamicaly from the initrd by udevd at boot time?
[14:52] <trijntje> llutz, you dont think it will be painless?
[14:52] <Pici> !karmic
[14:52] <trijntje> William-Ubuntu, change your password to a better one now ;)
[14:52] <llutz> trijntje: chan will be flooded with "iieks, updating broke my system" ;)
[14:53] <LjL> William-Ubuntu: interesting password
[14:53] <llutz> trijntje: painless for some, never for all (just my experience)
[14:53] <William-Ubuntu> h
[14:53] <tsimpson> fredl: pretty much everything under /dev is created dynamically at boot
[14:53] <llutz> LjL: where do you see a password? (no, names aren't passwords)
[14:53] <trijntje> llutz, I see, I will tell him its mostly painless ;)
[14:53] <Sacrebleu_> hello
[14:53] <sivang> can anybody find me the photo from UDS Paris, the group photo
[14:54] <Sacrebleu_> first time i use ubuntu
[14:54] <Sacrebleu_> i`m impressed
[14:54] <bernardo_> thank you guys and trijntje
[14:54] <Kartagis> Sacrebleu_, welcome among us
[14:54] <trijntje> bernardo_, I've just heard its painless for most users, but there are alway's some unlucky ones
[14:54] <LjL> llutz: obviously names can be passwords, and were used as such in that instance.
[14:54] <fredl> tsimpson, I know, but I want to know for sure if /dev/mapper/ devices are created by udevd, not whether 'pretty much everything is created by something'
[14:54] <bernardo_> heh, hopefully I won't be unlucky... what about that ext4 filesystem thing? mine is reiserfs
[14:55] <trijntje> Sacrebleu_, welcome to ubuntu :)
[14:55] <Sacrebleu_> beautiful operating sistem
[14:55] <Sacrebleu_> very very clean
[14:55] <UKTonyK> just touching in, am downloading ubuntu as you read this, really wanting to know how painless the setting up of WiFi is on an old IBM T30?
[14:55] <Sacrebleu_> from now till death a will hate gates
[14:55] <Sacrebleu_> :))
[14:55] <tsimpson> fredl: by "pretty much", I mean everything that's not in /dev/.udev
[14:56] <fredl> tsimpson - because for some reason my lvm2 volumes are not visible in in initrd, therefore the root cannot be mounted.
[14:56] <William-Ubuntu> ls
[14:56] <freakynl> that's a long time to carry hate around with ya
[14:57] <corey> how do i make it do that 3-d stuff for pcliunxos?
[14:57] <corey> pclinuxos*
[14:57] <Pici> corey: Ask in a pclinuxos channel, this is #ubuntu
[14:58] <corey> dude idk how to find anything in here
[14:58] <corey> this is like a world apart from windows
[14:58] <corey> lol
[14:58] <trijntje> corey, you mean compiz 3d effects?
[14:58] <Pici> corey: type /join #PCLinuxOS-Support
[14:58] <corey> yeah
[14:58] <sivang> corey: hehe
[14:58]  * sivang high fives corey 
[14:58] <trijntje> corey, install compizconfig settingsmanager
[14:58] <violet523> alright now that ive installed opensshd so hopefully when i try for lke the eightyith time to get this geforce 5200 to work properly with 3d support
[14:58] <corey> ok
[14:58] <Pici> trijntje: pclinuxos is not Ubuntu and is not supported here.
[14:59] <freakynl> mirc pirch and several other irc clients run fine on windows... been using them since 1994 or something
[14:59] <trijntje> Pici, i thought he saw compiz in pclinuxos and wants it on his ubuntu box
[15:00] <corey> i do
[15:00] <Pici> corey: Are you running Ubuntu or pclinuxos?
[15:00] <Elmaron> will there be an update to nginx 0.6.*?
[15:00] <edbian> I'm looking for an app that I can start with a mouse button that basically shows a bunch of icons for apps installed in my system.
[15:00] <corey> im running xubuntu
[15:00] <Elmaron> nginx 0.5 is kinda broken in some aspects
[15:00] <erUSUL> !latest | Elmaron
[15:00] <Pici> corey: Okay, sorry for the confusion.
[15:00] <freakynl> edbian: ? you mean like a start menu?
[15:00] <Elmaron> well this is buggy enough to justifyb a post release update
[15:01] <corey> ok after i install compiz how do i make it work?
[15:01] <Elmaron> that's why I'm asking if there is going to be one
[15:01] <Elmaron> nginx 0.5 is unable to parse all the vhosts I set up because it can't deal with some specific orders or combinations of vhosts apparently
[15:01] <ojio> hi to all
[15:01] <Pici> Elmaron: Are you running Hardy currently?
[15:01] <corey> how do i get compix to work now that i installed it?
[15:02] <Elmaron> Pici: the recent 8 something LTS
[15:02] <Elmaron> dunno the codename for it
[15:02] <trijntje> how can i get evolution to keep a backup of emails I remove from the IMAP server?
[15:02] <ojio> i wanto see dpg movies in my ubuntu, any how to? thx
[15:02] <erUSUL> Elmaron: nginx is 0.6 in jaunty.. do you mean hardy LTS
[15:02] <Len_> another dumb question: whats the differente btw useradd adduser?
[15:02] <Pici> Len_: Their manpages describe the differences well.
[15:02] <edbian> freakynl: Yes.  In an effort to be more productive I'm experimenting with getting rid of my gnome panel.  Compiz has plenty of functionality for arranging my windows (and managing them in general) but I'd like to be able to press my 4th mouse button for example and launch an app that basically just shows launchers for other apps.  Is there something like that in the repos?  I already have a program that will run a command every time button 4 is pressed now I jus
[15:02] <edbian> t need the app!  Does this make sense?
[15:02] <miguel000> hi
[15:02] <Len_> Pici: ok
[15:02] <violet523> Len_: ones alot more tech savy
[15:03] <kermit> whats the fastest terminal emulator?
[15:03] <Elmaron> erUSUL, not sure. uname -a doesn't contain it apparently
[15:03] <edbian> freakynl: That way I can launch apps without taking my hand off the mouse
[15:03] <violet523> Len_: one adds users, the other is for adding users to groups if i remember right
[15:03] <edbian> kermit: probably xterm with dash instead of bash
[15:03] <onats> hey guys, anyone of you know about this negative effect on ubuntu desktop?
[15:03] <erUSUL> Elmaron: lsb_release -a
[15:03] <llutz> violet523: you remember wrong :)
[15:03] <freakynl> so basically you want a configurable menu on the fourth mouse button? definitely possible... dunno if there are any apps that can assist you though
[15:04] <violet523> llutz: its ben ten years ;p
[15:04] <Elmaron> erUSUL, yes, hady LTS
[15:04] <Elmaron> *hardy
[15:04] <erUSUL> Elmaron: according to packages.ubuntu.com hardy has nginx 0.6xxx in backports
[15:04] <erUSUL> !backports | Elmaron
[15:04] <ubuntuisloved> can i manuelly add a PPA ?
[15:04] <erUSUL> Elmaron: enable backports and update only nginx then disable them again
[15:04] <genii> kermit: You mean something like minicon?
[15:04] <violet523> and well i would have man'ed it but im still stuck in single user mode
[15:04] <jcdyer> I just transferred my netbook from EasyPeasy to NBR by changing software sources, and adding and dropping relevant packages, and then upgraded to Karmic Beta.  Anyone know how I can add the logout/shutdown menu to my panel?  It didn't get added when I switched.
[15:04] <ubuntuisloved> using apt-key is timing out today
[15:04] <Lint01> is there a Nautilus plugin to edit file ACLs?
[15:05] <n8tuser> edbian-> all i can think of is a keymapping for your 4th button, which i have been struggling to get going myself
[15:05] <erUSUL> !info eiciel | Lint01
[15:05] <Elmaron> erUSUL, can I enable backports not only temporarily only for the nginx package?
[15:05] <Pici> jcdyer : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[15:05] <freakynl> if you have a tool that can add a command to fourth mouse button, why not attach a file browser targetted to a specific directory on it, in the dir put the shortcuts
[15:05] <Elmaron> I don't want to miss out on security patches - otherwise I could just simply compile nginx on my own which I already did
[15:05] <edbian> freakynl: Yes.  But I don't want to have to have the mouse of the desktop (silly in my opinion).  Do you understand?
[15:05] <jcdyer> Pici: OK Thanks, though I don't think the question is Karmic specific.
[15:06] <trijntje> how can i get evolution to keep a backup of emails I remove from the IMAP server?
[15:06] <edbian> n8tuser: I can keymap my button to any command I want.  That works completely.  I just need a good app to launch when the key is pressed!
[15:06] <psinetic> hey guys
[15:06] <jcdyer> Pici: Because I didn't have the widget before the upgrade either.
[15:06] <freakynl> yea i get it but that might be more difficult as the app your mouse is above might interpret the 4th button as well... which might cause results you don't desire
[15:06] <edbian> freakynl: That's a good work around!  Not 100% beautiful but pretty close!  Thank you!
[15:06] <trijntje> edbian, do you want to get the ubuntu menu or just an Alt+F2 kind of thing?
[15:06] <jcdyer> Pici: It was the result of switching from EasyPeasy, which doesn't have that on the panel.
[15:06] <miha> hello i'm looking at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42737 i'd like to scale down frequency / fan speed on old athlon xp.. can it be done? :)
[15:07] <edbian> trijntje: I want to launch apps without the keyboard or the gnome panel.
[15:07] <onats> !negative
[15:07] <erUSUL> Elmaron: i wuold do: enable backports « sudo aptitude update » then « sudo aptitude install nginx » disable backports
[15:07] <Pici> onats: What are you looking for?
[15:07] <n8tuser> edbian  you have a tutorial on how to map a key? using like strings (for initiating a script?)  -- i've been struggling on how to key map myself
[15:07] <freakynl> edbian: well have fun with it :)
[15:07] <psinetic> so um...i have a problem. I used some program called "Remove Orphaned Packages" and it removed alot of packages and now half of my stuff is missing. can someone do a private chat with me please?
[15:07] <azlon> i cannot for the life of me figure out why my samba shares are not working
[15:07] <erUSUL> !pinning | Elmaron
[15:08] <onats> Pici, found it already.. its a feature of compiz...
[15:08] <trijntje> edbian, well thats over my head for sure, good luck to you!
[15:08] <violet523> llutz: what command adds a user to groups, addgroup?
[15:08] <azlon> erUSUL, if i change my default route would that prevent other machines from accessing my samba shares?
[15:08] <llutz> violet523: adduser does, but it does lots more
[15:08] <onats> Pici, super +m / super + n, sets  apps to negative contrast...
[15:08] <edbian> n8tuser: I'm using xbindkeys.  It's actually pretty easy but it is sort of brute force.  It doesn't check for duplicates and it overrides any other key mapping (so don't re-map button one unless you wanna be REALLY annoyed).  Use xev command if you don't know your mouse buttons
[15:08] <erUSUL> azlon: your default gateaway ?
[15:08] <Pici> onats: Indeed.
[15:08] <onats> Pici, good for dark rooms
[15:08] <edbian> trijntje: n8tuser: freakynl:  Thanks guys!  :)
[15:08] <psinetic> anyone?
[15:09] <azlon> erUSUL, hrmm... how do i find my default gateway?
[15:09] <erUSUL> azlon: i do not see why would that matter unless you modifed other routes
[15:09] <erUSUL> azlon: it s your router usually
[15:09] <trijntje> how can i get evolution to keep a backup of emails I remove from the IMAP server?
[15:09] <Lint01> whoever had recommended eiciel: that &#%^ (a) doesn't work, and (b) doesn't integrate into Nautilus, any working alternatives?
[15:09] <psinetic> so um...i have a problem. I used some program called "Remove Orphaned Packages" and it removed alot of packages and now half of my stuff is missing. can someone do a private chat with me please?
[15:09] <UKTonyK> just touching in, am downloading ubuntu as you read this, really wanting to know how painless the setting up of WiFi is on an old IBM T30?
[15:10] <grawity> Lint01: (a) I have tested it too, (b) it does integrate to Nautilus context menu.
[15:10] <erUSUL> Lint01: it does work and b it does add a tab in the properties dialog of nautilus for files
[15:10] <llutz> violet523: basically adduser/useradd do similar things, but different way
[15:10] <Pici> UKTonyK: What wireless chipset does that laptop have?
[15:10] <azlon> erUSUL, i deleted my default route and added a new one so i could use my ppp0 for internet and my eth1 for LAN
[15:10] <azlon> erUSUL, this is my new route: http://pastebin.com/d135e7fd
[15:10] <psinetic> is anyone listening?
[15:10] <violet523> llutz: yeah i remember one i had to know the information i was adding while the other was used in the old debian installation method where it asks for like name, address, room number, etc
[15:10] <Pici> UKTonyK: additionaly http://thinkwiki.org is a great resource for thinkpad owners.
[15:11] <erUSUL> azlon: everything looks ok to me (no that i'm an expert either ;))
[15:11] <UKTonyK> Pici:christ knows! :) how would I find out? I have a netgear WG511T abd a Belkin F5D9010
[15:11] <grawity> psinetic: 1) Yes, we're listening. 2) Most of us prefer to reply in the channel (unless a PM is really needed). 3) The rule of IRC: If nobody answers - nobody knows.
[15:11] <llutz> violet523: useradd asks
[15:11] <Elmaron> after installing lighttpd, ubuntu wants to start it
[15:11] <psinetic> ok, well chatting here is fine too, i just figure chatting in private message would be easier for troubleshooting.
[15:12] <azlon> erUSUL, what else would prevent my samba shares from displaying? it stopped working when i setup ICS
[15:12] <UKTonyK> will try thinkwiki.org. Many thanks
[15:12] <Elmaron> I want it never to be started automatically (also not with another try after the next reboot of the machine)
[15:12] <Elmaron> what do I need to do so it will never attempt to do this again while lighttpd is still installed?
[15:12] <erUSUL> Elmaron: disable it on the init system
[15:12] <n8tuser> edbian-> do you mind if I get a copy of your xbindkey mapping, ill see if I can figure out how to map a key, you may pm it to my, thanks.
[15:12] <erUSUL> Elmaron: --> sudo update-rc.d -f lighttpd remove
[15:12] <shane2peru> does anyone know how to make a cd so when it starts in a linux box, it will automatically open the html page?
[15:13] <shane2peru> like the auto.inf in windows?
[15:13] <psinetic> i've had problems with ubuntu ever since the day I installed it. if it's not one problem it's another. But i used some software called "Remove Orphaned Packages" it removed alot of stuff i am using right now, and now alot of my apps won't run, everything looks different, and icons are missing.
[15:13] <gamerx> hi everybody!
[15:13] <Lint01> (a) Could not open the file "/home/xxx/Documents/test" (Operation not supported) <- You call this 'work'?
[15:13] <erUSUL> Elmaron: then stop it sudo invoke-rc.d lighhtp stop
[15:13] <Elmaron> erUSUL, will it get activated again when lighttpd is upgraded?
[15:13] <gamerx> i need some help with playing dvd's in ubuntu, i have 9.04
[15:13] <Elmaron> or is it going to stay turned off
[15:13] <erUSUL> Elmaron: do not think so
[15:13] <Elmaron> hm k
[15:13] <Lint01> (b) There's no new tab in Nautilus' properties
[15:13] <llutz> shane2peru: there is no default way to that on linux systems
[15:13] <L1nUX1z3R> does anyone use dockbarx
[15:13] <violet523> psinetic: try and earlier version? roll the stuff you need by hand then?
[15:14] <L1nUX1z3R> i need to change the theme...
[15:14] <psinetic> i have no idea how to do that
[15:14] <psinetic> i'm a computer technician with the navy, but i only know windows
[15:14] <gamerx> i have tried both xine and VLC for linux, and also the default one, but none seem to work
[15:14] <shane2peru> llutz: that is what I was afraid of. :(  as Linux becomes more desktop used, and more non-computer users start using it, we are going to need a way to do that.
[15:14] <Pici> UKTonyK: Looks like that card uses the atheros chipset, it should be relatively painless is newer versions of Ubuntu.  For older versions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros
[15:14] <remco_> |#¼ my mouse was working better after the metacity --replace , but now I have the same problem again. My mouse just can't click anymore after a while.. with any mouse :(
[15:14] <clone_> Hello, I really need to solve the limited wifi speed I get on iwl3945 driver, this is a serious issue no one seems to adress, I've been trying to figure it out for few days, now i'm about to switch back to winblows because of this, unless someone will help me
[15:14] <remco_> and its doing werid thing sometimes like pasting on its own ,.,
[15:15] <remco_> can anyone help ?
[15:15] <gamerx> please someone :)
[15:15] <remco_> the keyboard works fine, and the mouse arrow too, it just cant click anymore ..
[15:15] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, what happens when you play it with VLC??
[15:15] <llutz> shane2peru: if all of those desktops would use gnome or kde or ..., it might be possible. but actually there are too many different systems used, which handle mounting different way... no chance
[15:16] <gamerx> it quickly comes up with a black box, then dissapears immediately, all the players seem to do the smae
[15:16] <remco_> I can sometimes reactivate the left click by right clicking but that only works for a little while ..
[15:16] <psinetic> how would i go about doing a "repair install" on my OS? (I have 9.10 test for ubuntu)
[15:16] <violet523> psinetic: i dont know if ubuntu offers it, but most linux distributions offer mirrors of older versions of their release canidates, so if the stuff you needed was on an earlier version of ubuntu try installing that version
[15:16] <happihippo> remco_: try a different mouse?
[15:16] <hyperstation> excuse me...what compiler do i need most for compiling tarball installer???
[15:16] <edbian> n8tuser: Did you get my config file?
[15:16] <llutz> shane2peru: and btw, autostart always is a security issue and will be disabled on many systems.
[15:16] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, and other videos work with vlc and others??
[15:16] <remco_> I tried different mouses same result with all ,,
[15:16] <gamerx> hang on, i shall try one
[15:16] <shane2peru> llutz: right, I can see it from the security angle, it is better to not have it.
[15:16] <remco_> and they all work fine on other computers
[15:17] <llutz> shane2peru: even on win-systems it's the first thing to be disabled :)
[15:17] <happihippo> remco_: usb?
[15:17] <psinetic> >_> why doesn't ubuntu have the system restore option? like, if i install something there's nothing to restore my system to before i did that or to another specific date.
[15:17] <freakynl> hyperstation: err that would depend on the app. mostly gcc
[15:17] <shane2peru> llutz: for computer saavyusers. :)
[15:17] <remco_> this s#@¼ I need this pc for work, and since everyone uses windows here, IT is not going to help me :(
[15:17] <remco_> Yes usb
[15:17] <shane2peru> llutz: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/is-it-possible-to-create-autorun-for-cd..open-a-html-file...-665968/  Interseting to say the least
[15:18] <hyperstation> hmm how about wireshark or MPlayer???
[15:18] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, yes they work fine
[15:18] <happihippo> remco_: wireless or wired?
[15:18] <Or3^> mouais
[15:18] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, try ripping the dvd and then playing the resulting file....use handbrake for ripping
[15:18] <remco_> wireless... I tried the mouse pad on the laptop too and it has the same results..
[15:19] <arand> psinetic: there are several applications able to do that, but none installed by default.
[15:19] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, thanks, never thorght of that, ill try now
[15:19] <remco_> working on powerpoint is no fun from the command line :P
[15:19] <shane2peru> llutz: link was not complete too long:  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=3262305#post3262305  try that one
[15:19] <hyperstation> or must i install all of the library provided on repository?
[15:19] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, welcome....
[15:19] <happihippo> remco_: have you tried a wired mouse?
[15:19] <psinetic> *sigh* ok, i guess I'll just reinstall ubuntu for the third time this month.
[15:19] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, you can also try a different dvd to see if it's not the dvd
[15:19] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, would handbrake happen to be in synaptic?
[15:19] <erUSUL> Lint01: this may help https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eiciel/+bug/356031
[15:20] <remco_> I dont think I have one, but the mousepad on the laptop does the same... I'll give it a try..
[15:20] <L1nUX1z3R> yep...i suppose
[15:20] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, no i have tried 2 dvd's
[15:20] <L1nUX1z3R> oh i can send u a link if you give me 2 mins
[15:20] <remco_> I might have found the solution :)   I had another usb mouse dongle in the docking station, I pulled it out, and it seems to work better ...
[15:21] <llutz> shane2peru: a. mounting cd "exec" is a bad idea b. what process should run that script?
[15:21] <remco_> Thanks for the support :)
[15:21] <happihippo> remco_: cool.  HTH
[15:21] <MrSchmo> any program out there let me view what wireless channel people are using around me?
[15:21] <hyperstation> how to delete shortcut of program installed in wine??
[15:21] <remco_> I really hope thats what it was...but it looks better so far :)
[15:21] <clone_> Hello, I really need to solve the limited wifi speed I get on iwl3945 driver, this is a serious issue no one seems to adress, I've been trying to figure it out for few days, now i'm about to switch back to winblows because of this, unless someone will help me
[15:21] <ringo999> on karmic, my system seems to hang on bootup when it tries to do harddrive integrity check. what is the command for harddrive check so i can trigger it manually?
[15:21] <gamerx> MrSchmo, not too sure, i would like to know too, is there anyone out that does know?
[15:21] <llutz> shane2peru: it needs a modified udev or something similar to to that...
[15:22] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, http://handbrake.fr/downloads.php
[15:22] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, okay dling now :0
[15:22] <Pici> MrSchmo: kismet can do that.
[15:22] <hyperstation> how to delete shortcut of program installed in wine??
[15:22] <shane2peru> llutz: yeah, that is ok, more of a question out of curiosity rather than necesity, however for marketers, this would be or may have been usefull, I guess most probably market via internet now.
[15:23] <psinetic> why is it that I install Ubuntu as my official switch from Windows and ever since I've been troubleshooting stupid petty problems? This makes no sense to me...
[15:24] <clone_> http://www2.sandbox.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=+site:ubuntuforums.org+iwl3945+ubuntu+slow&ei=UIDYSsrfNI2eMJWlpasL&sa=X&oi=forum_cluster&resnum=1&ct=more-results&ved=0CAwQrQIwAA  < anybody knows anything about how to solve this???
[15:24] <erUSUL> Lint01: i can confirm you need nautilus-actions installed for the eiciel tabs to appear
[15:24] <MrSchmo> pici, thanks. looking into it
[15:24] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, i get heaps of this: [23:53:42] dvd: DVDReadBlocks failed (306974), skipping to vobu 307187, am i doing something wrong?
[15:24] <caution> what's the easiest to use ftp with ubuntu?
[15:24] <caution> ftp server
[15:25] <erUSUL> caution: clinet or server ?
[15:25] <erUSUL> !ftpd | caution
[15:25] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, im guessing it's failing to read the dvd...is it write-protected??
[15:25] <kermit> genii: i've never heard of minicon and don't see much about it
[15:25] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, im not sure, its just a normal dvd??
[15:25] <arand> !backup | psinetic, there are some info of use here, although this assumes preemptive backups
[15:25] <caution> which ftpd is simplest? ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd
[15:26] <psinetic> caution: keep note that depending on who your ISP is you may need to get a VPN because some ISP's will block incoming connections. this is if you're running a server, client would be fine.
[15:26] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, mmhh....you tried it on any other OS?....damn, im running out of ideas
[15:26] <clone_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/340418  < please help
[15:26] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, wait i think it was still doing something, im trying again :)
[15:26] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, it says Scanning... now...
[15:27] <psinetic> caution: i use filezilla
[15:28] <Delvien> Morning all
[15:28] <wertik_rus> morning
[15:28] <genii> !info minicom | kermit: Typo, should have been minicom
[15:28] <wrapster> i kinda forgot how to change the default template of GNU screen...
[15:28] <jlilly> hey guys. I upgraded to 9.10 and things were good for a couple of days. Now Xorg is taking 99% of my cpu. thoughts?
[15:29] <wrapster> could anyone let me know... sorry if this is the wrong forum
[15:29] <psinetic> actually, here's a question i'd REALLY love the answer to. I know i "upgraded" to the test OS. If you don't like that OS, is there a way to "downgrade" to the one previous to that with a simple terminal command?
[15:29] <Delvien> I have an issue with a new(ish) laptop. I am unable to change the screens brightness. I am using ubuntu 9.04, on an HP dv1000se.  I even tried rmmod video but that does not solve the issue.
[15:29] <mgv1> how can i make a copy of an audio cd?
[15:29] <erUSUL> jlilly: ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:29] <Delvien> psinetic, only way to do that is to reinstall
[15:29] <erUSUL> mgv1: use brasero ?
[15:29] <jlilly> erUSUL: thx.
[15:29] <arand> psinetic: No.
[15:29] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, rip is working xD
[15:29] <psinetic> go figure
[15:29] <kermit> genii: i've used minicom for dialup stuff, how would i use it locally?
[15:29] <erUSUL> !downgrade | psinetic
[15:29] <Delvien> psinetic, however, you can boot to an older kernel, if you are having hardware issues
[15:30] <psinetic> it's not like it's already broken
[15:30] <mgv1> erUSUL, i didnt knew about this- i thought there is the simple burning only - thanks
[15:30] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, yaaaay :P
[15:30] <Delvien> psinetic, that means that it may be non-operable
[15:30] <Delvien> psinetic, What is broken?
[15:30] <arand> clone_: The upstream bug shows progress, my guess is that if you are not into kernel hacking, you'll just have to wait this one out..
[15:30] <psinetic> i ran some program called "Remove Orphaned Packages" and it took a lot of crap out in my system
[15:31] <psinetic> alot of apps won't run anymore, missing icons, the entire system changed entirely
[15:31] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, btw is there any easy way of "replying", like instead of copying and pasting the users name?, like a right click option (im using x-chat)
[15:31] <Pici> clone_: !tab | gamerx
[15:31] <Pici> arg.
[15:31] <Pici> !tab | gamerx
[15:31] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, just type the first letters and tab
[15:31] <arand> psinetic: that's because afaik, orphanded =/=crap
[15:31] <clone_> Delvien: wait how long? people are waiting since 7.04 for this, if it won't be solved soon ubuntu lost me, and probably all other intel pro wifi users out there...
[15:31] <Delvien> psinetic try this.. sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:31] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, ohh great
[15:31] <Pici> clone_: sorry about that.
[15:31] <psinetic> ok, one sec
[15:31] <genii> kermit: My original question was intended to find out if by "terminal emulation" you wanted some replacement of xterm/gnome-terminal or a communications app like minicom, which is an emulator of for instance ANSI VT100
[15:32] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, lol....enjoy
[15:32] <Delvien> clone_,  sorry, missed what you were talking about.. ?
[15:32] <erUSUL> psinetic: install ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[15:32] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, thank god someone thourght of that :P
[15:32] <Delvien> erUSUL, i already said that
[15:32] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, lol...yeah...quite time saving
[15:32] <clone_> arand:  wait how long? people are waiting since 7.04 for this, if it won't be solved soon ubuntu lost me, and probably all other intel pro wifi users out there...
[15:32] <erUSUL> Delvien: did not see it
[15:32] <clone_> Delvien: sorry wrong nick
[15:32] <Delvien> clone_ np :)
[15:34] <psinetic> ok, i ran those, i'll use a pastebin to show you the restults, be back in a sec
[15:34] <psinetic> http://pastebin.com/d17f2909
[15:34] <Delvien> erusul anyway, it looks like he is a new user, or psuedo-new user, and he could already have the metapackage installed, but the single packages that are installed from the metapackage would be missing, he would have to remove the metapackage first, then reinstall. And a new user wouldnt necessarily understand "install xxxx metapackage"
[15:35] <Pici> clone_: This isn't an ubuntu problem, the issue is in the kernel module.
[15:35] <kols> /window/n
[15:35] <clone_> Pici: ok, so is there anyone even trying to fix this?
[15:35] <clone_> i don't remember having this problem with fedora 11
[15:35] <RagnarRoeck> Hi! I'm using the private folder under ubuntu 9.04. there are two identical folders in my home (.Private and Private) looking exactly the same and taking the same space. what is that good for and is one of them (Private) not encrypted?
[15:36] <Delvien> psinetic, sec
[15:36] <arand> clone_: hmm, I see your point, but then again, it all comes down to the developers and what they focus on and/or know how to fix it, testing and submitting debug reports are always one way to help getting it done faster...
[15:36] <psinetic> yeah i had no idea what you meant by "install ubuntu-desktop metapackage", i figured i'd run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop metapackage" but that didn't work
[15:36] <kappaccino> Is there a gui for handling archives - rars - zips - etc ??
[15:36] <Pici> clone_: See upstream: http://bugzilla.intellinuxwireless.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1932
[15:37] <arand> kappaccino: file-roller?
[15:37] <Delvien> psinetic, i didnt say install ubuntu-desktop metapackage :) that was someone else. the first commands were fine you ran
[15:37] <kappaccino> I was at work yesterday trying to find it. I realize I installed 7zip but it's all terminal work :(
[15:37] <Delvien> psinetic,  gimme a sec, reading something about it
[15:37] <psinetic> ok
[15:37] <Pici> kappaccino: If you install the 'rar' and 'p7zip' packages, file-roller will be able to handle those filetypes automatically.
[15:38] <kappaccino> cool thanks
[15:38] <Delvien> psinetic, when is the last time you update?
[15:38] <Delvien> updated*
[15:38] <arand> psinetic: exactly what packages did you remove with the orphan-clean-thingy?
[15:38] <psinetic> about two hours ago
[15:39] <psinetic> i have no idea, it just gave me a bunch of boxes to check, i figured they were all from bad installs or where i half-installed something manually and left alot of trash behind. so i checked them all and hit "ok"
[15:39] <psinetic> ...it even removed itself...
[15:39] <gamerx> anyone know of any GUi's for kismet?
[15:40] <Delvien> psinetic, without knowing what is missing :x..... try "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" and post the output to pastebin
[15:41] <psinetic> what's the difference in sudo apt-get and sudo aptitude?
[15:42] <arand> psinetic: did you have a lot of packages installed without using a repository (i.e. downloaded deb files) or from a repository which are no longer enabled?
[15:42] <maciej_> helo all
[15:42] <BlouBlou> psinetic: aptitude is an alias from apt-get
[15:42] <Delvien> aptitude is more comprehensive
[15:42] <mgolisch> no its not
[15:42] <llutz> BlouBlou: wrong
[15:42] <mgolisch> its a different programm
[15:42] <BlouBlou> llua: ops, so what is it?
[15:42] <llutz> psinetic: both are different front-ends to apt
[15:42] <BlouBlou> llutz: sorry, what is it?
[15:43] <llua> :x
[15:43] <psinetic> i think the Remove Orphaned Packages program removed packages that were related to apps that were standalone as well. for example, if an app has no dependencies, then i think it autoassumed it was an orphan and marked it for deletion.
[15:43] <arand> psinetic: aptitude is a higher-level program with a semi-gui available, it also tends to give you more information compared to apt-get...
[15:43] <psinetic> http://pastebin.com/d5cfa6a21
[15:44] <fccf> BlouBlou: apt-get aptitude explanation here http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[15:44] <grawity> BlouBlou: apt-get/apt-cache are purely command-line tools, aptitude is kind of menu-based, and synaptic has a full, clickable GUI - and all three are just interfaces to the 'apt' package management system.
[15:44] <L1nUX1z3R> can anyone help me with dockbarx...cant change the themes
[15:44] <BlouBlou> fccf, grawity: ok thanks for info :)
[15:44] <coz_> L1nUX1z3R,  dockbarx?
[15:44] <Delvien> psinetic, .... wow its all kinds of borked, did you have KDE4 installed?
[15:44] <L1nUX1z3R> coz, yes
[15:44] <coz_> L1nUX1z3R,  I have to google that one
[15:44] <psinetic> no idea
[15:45] <gamerx> coz_, http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/DockbarX?content=101604
[15:45] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, yaaaay :P
[15:45] <Delvien> psinetic, you shouldnt run things in root (mode), you should always use sudo
[15:45] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, what?
[15:45] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, are you using it??
[15:46] <psinetic> oh ok
[15:46] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, no i just googled it, found the page on it lol
[15:46] <coz_> L1nUX1z3R,  let me install this and see
[15:46] <L1nUX1z3R> coz_, k, thanks
[15:46] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R,  i shall check it out too
[15:46] <Delvien> psinetic, aptitiude removed alot of things... I only wanted the output not for you to continue on and agree to what it was removing doh.
[15:46] <arand> psinetic: did your desktop include a menubar at the top.
[15:46] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, thanks too
[15:46] <L1nUX1z3R> it basically makes a task bar like the one on windows 7, but better
[15:47] <psinetic> uh...well i have both status bars on the bottom of the screen if that's what you're asking
[15:47] <Delvien> IS there a K on the bottom left hand side?
[15:47] <psinetic> no
[15:47] <psinetic> i think it's gnome based
[15:47] <arand> psinetic: or rather, are you using Kubuntu rather than the gnome-based ubuntu.
[15:47] <Delvien> Whats there?
[15:47] <coz_> L1nUX1z3R,  hold on ...apparenlty this takes a few dependencies
[15:47] <psinetic> i'm using Ubuntu
[15:47] <psinetic> it's the funky looking circle thing
[15:48] <L1nUX1z3R> coz_, i can find the link to them..
[15:48] <coz_> L1nUX1z3R,  ? and a couple manual install things
[15:48] <coz_> L1nUX1z3R,  thats ok they are installing
[15:48] <Delvien> ubuntu is a distro, KDE and Gnome are desktop environments. (kubuntu for kde and ubuntu for gnome)
[15:48] <L1nUX1z3R> coz_, yeah...a couple of copying files to /usr/bin etc
[15:48] <psinetic> ah. i'm using gnome
[15:48] <acr0nym> hello, is it possible to split my current ubuntu partition in half without losing my distro/data
[15:49] <psinetic> acr0nym: you can use a partition manager to split the un-used space.
[15:49] <grawity> acr0nym: Yes, but you'll need to do that from a LiveCD (because you cannot edit partitions that are being used)
[15:49] <Delvien> psinetic, does it look like this? http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/screenshots/desktop.jpg
[15:49] <acr0nym> aah grawity  that explains why it didn't work
[15:49] <grawity> acr0nym: Also, resizing partitions is a little risky.
[15:49] <BlouBlou> psinetic: When you install "Ubuntu", Ubuntu installs gnome, but you can install KDE later via synaptic
[15:50] <psinetic> no, it doesn't look like that
[15:50] <Delvien> psinetic, okie
[15:50] <psinetic> hmmm, i'll take a screeny myself
[15:50] <Delvien> psinetic, do "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" again, and without continuing post the output to pastebin
[15:50] <psinetic> and for the love of god this is pissing me off >_> my music player just up and freaking freezes >_>
[15:51] <Delvien> psinetic, maybe the best option for you is to backup your data and reinstall a non-beta version
[15:51] <Delvien> psinetic, Usually we all suggest STRONGLY not to get into the beta software unless you really know how to tear things apart
[15:51] <psinetic> http://pastebin.com/d1bf26021
[15:51] <psinetic> hmmm ok
[15:52] <Delvien> psinetic, you spelled ubuntu-desktop wrong  in your terminal command
[15:52] <psinetic> well i didn't go into beta until after this happened
[15:52] <BlouBlou> Delvien: maybe psinetic can wait few weeks, and install RC or definitive version upgrading
[15:52] <Delvien> "ubnuntu-desktop"
[15:52] <psinetic> go figure >_>
[15:52] <acr0nym> thanks
[15:52] <coz_> L1nUX1z3R,  oh a systray??
[15:52] <acr0nym> one more question, I want to use the same home partition on different distros
[15:52] <xliiv> will you clear one thing to me? i use [alt]+[f2] run program and i'd like to add an activator to it? some hints?
[15:52] <Delvien> BlouBlou will be better for him to just reinstall, since we have no idea what packages are missing
[15:52] <BullHornL> i can have ubuntu installed on the same partition as windows?
[15:53] <acr0nym> do I have to make a different partition for home and can this be done without reinstalling my current ubuntu from scratch?
[15:53] <Delvien> BullHornL, with wubi, yes
[15:53] <arand> psinetic: using tab-completion makes spelling mistakes rarer ;)
[15:53] <BullHornL> is it stable/worth-checking?
[15:53] <BlouBlou> psinetic: if you're using beta version join in #ubuntu+1 for karmic support ;)
[15:53] <psinetic> http://pastebin.com/d2d2c4a9
[15:53] <Delvien> acr0nym, You dont HAVE to
[15:53] <azimout> question: now that we use gdm 2.28, which doesn't (seem to) support themes, what do we do with all the *gdm-theme* packages?
[15:53] <grawity> acr0nym: Resize the current /, create a new partition, move data from old /home to the new partition, edit the /etc/fstab apropriately. Note that using a single /home for two distros _may_ create some problems (if you use different versions of Firefox, for example) - but other than that, good.
[15:53] <Delvien> BlouBlou, Im already helping him, no need to direct him somewhere else
[15:53] <KingOverload> Anyone know why splashy will not install under Ubuntu Jaunty?
[15:53] <psinetic> BlouBlou: right now i'm only concerned about Ubuntu support.
[15:53] <Pici> azimout : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[15:53] <L1nUX1z3R> coz_, yes
[15:54] <L1nUX1z3R> is it working??
[15:54] <BlouBlou> okay
[15:54] <Delvien> psinetic, Id say, just back up your stuff and reinstall 9.04
[15:54] <azimout> ok, thank you
[15:54] <coz_> L1nUX1z3R,  yes its working now let me try to change themes
[15:54] <psinetic> haha, ok. that'll make reinstall number three this month ;)
[15:54] <acr0nym> thanks grawity, one last question, I'm not very familiar with /etc/fstab can you perhaps explain what I have to do there or a link to a tutorial?
[15:54] <KingOverload> I had an error installing the 'splashy' package; "Conflicts with lsb-base" said its overwriting base-logging.sh
[15:54] <KingOverload> Anyone know if its safe to force an install?
[15:54] <Delvien> psinetic, this time, to make it easier, make your / and /home different partitions, so you dont have to mess with your data all the time
[15:54] <erUSUL> !fstab
[15:55] <psinetic> hmmm never thought of that
[15:55] <acr0nym> thanks
[15:55] <coz_> L1nUX1z3R,  mm I cannot find the preferences dialog
[15:55] <Delvien> psinetic,  :) if you bork your system, your data is safe, well unless your HDD goes nuclear
[15:55] <acr0nym> would it also be better to have the home partition as the first partition on my harddisk
[15:55] <Delvien> acr0nym, / first
[15:55] <luisfqs> !Partitions
[15:55] <L1nUX1z3R> coz_, i couldnt the first day...but i think if you right-click on it
[15:56] <coz_> L1nUX1z3R,  nope no preferences let me look hold on
[15:56] <psinetic> to be honest this has been a very hard and frustrating experience. I'm a military IT and work on computers everyday, but use windows. I know computers, I just don't know linux. and i'm sick of windows and viruses and junk like that and screw mac so i went linux. and ever since i installed it i've had problem after problem. very frustrating.
[15:56] <L1nUX1z3R> try logging out then in coz_
[15:56] <coz_> L1nUX1z3R,  ok hold on
[15:56] <Delvien> psinetic,  we all go through that, but at least you can open the hood up and figure it out
[15:57] <BullHornL> is there a linux alternative to nokia pc suite for connecting to the internet with a nokia phone?
[15:57] <Delvien> psinetic, the beauty of linux :)
[15:57] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, lolz
[15:57] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, it lookz sexy :0
[15:57] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, yeah, right....
[15:57] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, send me a screenshot
[15:57] <pooka> psinetic: To add to Delvien's point, the fact you're managing to break it repeatedly probably means you're tinkering and trying to learn; you'll benefit in the long run. :o)
[15:57] <KingOverload> Breaking stuff is the quickest way to learn imho
[15:57] <Delvien> pooka well said
[15:57] <psinetic> true. it's like, the first time i installed it, graphics wouldn't work. i did everything i could, googled for a week straight, asked for help, nothing. reinstalled the os and it came back up. then i had another problem
[15:58] <psinetic> actually, it's not that i'm breaking it, it's just that crap doesn't work when it's installed
[15:58] <psinetic> for example. skype doesn't like my webcam
[15:58] <psinetic> so i have to fix it
[15:58] <psinetic> ubuntu doesn't like my graphics card, so i have to fix it
[15:58] <coz_> L1nUX1z3R,  no still no preferences   although I am karmic right now
[15:58] <psinetic> and in the process of fixing, i screw something up
[15:58] <psinetic> and have to fix that too
[15:58] <BullHornL> webcams suck, it took me a month to get mine working on windows
[15:58] <BullHornL> lol
[15:58] <KingOverload> Anybody savvy on splash package issues? Not an emergency but if somebody knows it'd be helpful
[15:58] <KingOverload> *splashy
[15:58] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, can you not even get it installed?, im just trying to do the themes now
[15:58] <psinetic> screw windows
[15:59] <Delvien> psinetic, Most of the major issuses you will run into with linux is poor hardware support. The companies spend as little as possible on developement, and while it may work in windows, linux is another story.
[15:59] <L1nUX1z3R> coz_, it worked for me after reboot...but i still couldnt change themes
[15:59] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, i can, i just cant change the themes
[15:59] <L1nUX1z3R> coz_, im on jaunty
[15:59] <psinetic> yeah i've noticed that. one thing that's pissing me off is that there's no yahoo messenger for linux
[15:59] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, mine worked straight away :0,
[15:59] <Delvien> psinetic, pidgin
[15:59] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, in just reading thru the docs now
[15:59] <grawity> psinetic: Pidgin, Empathy, etc.
[15:59] <kelohippi> I will install linux this weekend for a first time on my computer as a dual boot but now im reading about ext3 and ext4 filesystems. they've got me a bit mixed up and i wonder that if i make one partition with ext3 where i keep my /boot as it is recommended and use ext4 on other partitions will it be a bit too experimental for a first time linux user. meaning do i have to spend hours on internet looking for some solutions for conflicts.
[15:59] <pooka> psinetic: I believe there are various tools that'll work with messenger for you. Pidgin perhaps?
[15:59] <Delvien> psinetic, its all of the IM protocols in one nice app
[16:00] <psinetic> i have to use some gyachi, which was removed in the recent screw up
[16:00] <psinetic> pidgin doesn't use webcams
[16:00] <psinetic> and empathy doesn't accept yahoo webcams
[16:00] <grawity> psinetic: Pidgin already supports video for XMPP; Yahoo is coming someday.
[16:00] <BlouBlou> psinetic: try amsn for use webcam
[16:00] <psinetic> yep that's not working either
[16:00] <grawity> BlouBlou: He wants Yahoo, not MSN -.-
[16:00] <psinetic> i have both accounts
[16:00] <psinetic> neither work
[16:00] <pooka> kelohippi: I'd say stick with the simplest thing you can to start with. It's great that you're reading up and learning.
[16:01] <Delvien> psinetic, does it say its not connecting?
[16:01] <pooka> kelohippi: You can get adventurous once you're happy with your basic system.
[16:01]  * grawity never understood why are webcams so popular.
[16:01] <BlouBlou> grawity: sorry, It's friday and I am tired of working ;)
[16:01] <GregoryC> does anyone have experience setting up wine on a fresh install of ubuntu 9.10?
[16:01] <pooka> grawity: Total mystery to me too, but then I'm rather technophobic.
[16:01] <adalal> anyone with experience with bind9? i want to setup one, but im not sure if it'll work with dyndns.com's free service..
[16:02] <GregoryC> 9.10 prerelease i mean?
[16:02] <grawity> pooka: And I'm a geek.
[16:02] <Pici> GaeliX_alt : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[16:02] <Pici> GaeliX_alt: sorry, wrong nick.
[16:02] <draculatici> !ops
[16:02] <psinetic> oh the webcam shows
[16:02] <fabiobassa> very good morning room
[16:02] <psinetic> but
[16:02] <Pici> draculatici: ?
[16:02] <FloodBot3> Pici: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:02] <KingOverload> ^^
[16:02] <draculatici> !ops
[16:02] <psinetic> sorry
[16:02] <Pici> draculatici: Why did you call ops?
[16:02] <draculatici> !ot
[16:02] <LjL> draculatici: stop
[16:02] <psinetic> it shows up in preview
[16:02] <draculatici> !ops
[16:02] <psinetic> but when i use it it just freezes and the person never sees it
[16:02] <KingOverload> Spammer..
[16:02] <kelohippi> pooka: yeah thanks you are probably right. I just would like my installation be the best possible from the start so i dont have to keep changing all the time :) thanks
[16:02] <psinetic> and it doesn't send me a request on my end
[16:03] <fabiobassa> please I need help with the old problem of resolution in xubuntu 9.04
[16:03] <pooka> kelohippi: I understand; I'd recommend using the defaults for the most part - they're set that way because they work well for the majority of users.
[16:03] <L1nUX1z3R> coz_, is it working??
[16:03] <abdusamed> need help downloading from launchpad.. how do i exactly download? i did the software source steps.. now to download monoxide [https://launchpad.net/~directhex/+archive/monoxide]
[16:03] <psinetic> fabiobassa, what graphics card do you have?
[16:04] <adalal> need help with bind9... will it work with dyndns? or is there a separate channel for it?
[16:04] <KingOverload> Your setting up a private NS for dynamic DNS? wow.
[16:04] <coz_> L1nUX1z3R,  well it works but  no preferences in karmic  so far   and I cant change themes
[16:04] <fabiobassa> i have an ati rage 128 and a 15 inches monitor that works fine up to 1025*768
[16:04] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, have you got it working yet?,
[16:04] <LongFist> Is there a network specialist in the house?  My Ubuntu 8.04 LTS network layer just borked.
[16:04] <L1nUX1z3R> coz_, :(...will try and google it
[16:04] <adalal> KingOverload: yeah, trying to
[16:04] <pooka> adalal: What is it that you want to accomplish DNSwise?
[16:04] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, it works, i just cant change the themes
[16:05] <psinetic> fabiobassa, you've gone into system->prefs->display?
[16:05] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, as far as i can see you put the .tar.gz file into /usr/share/dockbarx/themes and then relog?
[16:05] <KingOverload> adalal, Good luck with that. seriously.
[16:05] <abdusamed> fabiobassa -> whats ur prob?
[16:05] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, then go into the properties and change it
[16:05] <abdusamed> i bet u have a old dell... :)
[16:05] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, i got it installed...but i cant change themes...can you?
[16:05] <psinetic> abdusamed, the US Navy uses dell quite a bit ;)
[16:05] <kelohippi> pooka: yea thanks.
[16:05] <fabiobassa> i cannot have 1024*768, but only 800*600. i tried googleing but all seem to edit xorg.conf
[16:05] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, yes i can change them, im trying to install one now, can you get into the properties page?
[16:06] <adalal> pooka: im trying to setup a dns server, that'll point to my ftp server, and one to mail ... i already have a domain setup, i jus wanna know if i can actually setup wildcard support with my own bind server, using dynamic dns' free service
[16:06] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, yes...right-click it then im lost from there
[16:06] <L1nUX1z3R> wait i relogin
[16:06] <fabiobassa> it seeeìms a very common problem
[16:06] <psinetic> fabiobassa, haha, i dunno man, mine was with nvidia not working. it took me a reinstall of the OS to get it to work
[16:06] <abdusamed> how do i download from launchpad? after doing the software source steps?
[16:07] <thijs> Hello.
[16:07] <fabiobassa> ty psinetic, it seems a very common problem that the resolution is set on 800*600
[16:07] <pooka> adalal: You want to host all of this (including the DNS server?) on a dynamic address?
[16:08] <adalal> pooka: technically i dont have a dynamic address.. mine's static
[16:08] <psinetic> fabiobassa, are you able to change the res in system->prefs->display?
[16:08] <pooka> adalal: Okay. Why is dyndns involved?
[16:08] <adalal> pooka: jus wanted to use a dns server to point to my address..
[16:08] <zoolook> Hello. Any preseed guru here?
[16:08] <fabiobassa> no psinetic just 800*600 and 600*480.. i want it bigger
[16:08] <adalal> pooka: got any services that would point an address to my ip?
[16:08] <psinetic> ok, hang on
[16:08] <KingOverload> adalal, Your dyndns account will do it
[16:09] <KingOverload> adalal, you just have to log in and give it your IP (which it can autodetect)
[16:09] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, how the hell do you make it vertical???
[16:09] <pooka> adalal: Any DNS domain reseller should allow you to set the NS records for your domain to point to your personal DNS server.
[16:09] <psinetic> fabiobassa, try going to system->Administration->hardware drivers
[16:09] <adalal> KingOverload: the problem is, wildcard support is supposedly disabled in a free account, i dont know what that means,... as in, will it allow me to create wildcards using my own bind server?
[16:10] <thijs> I've got this problem, I want to install ubuntu 8.10 on a laptop, but because i only have a 8.04 livecd i installed it via installing 8.04, and then upgrade to 8.10, however it always crashes.. Now i managed to atleast get it working for some part. There's a GDM (the 8,04 one) but i can't type in it, i can get in console, and when i type sudo apt-get upgrade, it sais 0 new, 0 to remove, and 92 not upgraded
[16:10] <fabiobassa> it is empty psinetic
[16:10] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, right-click on the taskbar then properties > orientation
[16:10] <KingOverload> adalal, wildcard support is free
[16:10] <thijs> How do i fix it so it will upgrade?
[16:10] <psinetic> it's empty?
[16:10] <psinetic> ...odd
[16:10] <KingOverload> adalal, I have a dyndns account lol
[16:10] <fabiobassa> i suppose i am using a generic droiver
[16:10] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, i stil cant change the themes
[16:10] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, btw, i changed the theme to a new one and it seems to apply, but no icons show up
[16:10] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, maybe  i need a re-log, but cant as im doing the dvd rip :/
[16:10] <fabiobassa> i suppose xubuntu 9.04 didn't recognize my screen and not my card
[16:10] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, ok
[16:11] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, brb
[16:11] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, so you right click it then select properties?
[16:11] <Jordan_U> thijs: How did you upgrade to 8.10, via update-manager?
[16:11] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, yes
[16:11] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R, then the window comes up?
[16:11] <cody_> How do i install my video's card propritory drivers? I have the nVidia RIVA TNT2 Model 64 Pro
[16:11] <psinetic> fabiobassa, , it does look like it's a driver problem. you'll probably have to go download that driver and compile it for linux. they might have a linux version available.
[16:11] <Jordan_U> cody_: Have youtried System > Administration > Harware Drivers?
[16:11] <thijs> Jordan_U, yes, via update manager in GUI, but half way(don't know exactly when) it crashed, so i rebooted, continued the upgrade
[16:12] <gamerx> cody_, have yyou tried hardware drivers under system - admin
[16:12] <L1nUX1z3R> yes...then you select where you want to put it in the orientation tab
[16:12] <L1nUX1z3R> gamerx, brb
[16:12] <gamerx> L1nUX1z3R,  kk'
[16:12] <Jordan_U> thijs: Ok, run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[16:12] <fabiobassa> ok psinetic , i hoped xubuntu already had it in . ty so much for helping
[16:12] <cody_> gamerx and Jordan_U: Yes, I have. Nothing is in there
[16:12] <gamerx> cody_ have you tried searching the nvidia site for linux drivers?
[16:13] <psinetic> fabiobassa, alot of times hardware support just isn't given on linux. i would go to the website vender for your graphics card, and see if they don't have a third-party linux driver on the main site
[16:13] <Jordan_U> !envy | cody_
[16:13] <thijs> Jordan_U, doesn't that install 9.04? because the fglrx drivers are incompatible with my über video card...
[16:13] <fabiobassa> ok ok  i will do so
[16:13] <fabiobassa> psinetic, ty again
[16:13] <Jordan_U> thijs: No, that will only continue the upgrade to 8.10
[16:13] <cody_> gamerx: No, i have not. I dont know if they even have it there anymore. Oh, well, it dont matter. I doubt compiz will run with the proprietory driver anyway :\
[16:13] <thijs> Jordan_U, when i type lsb_release -a it tells me it's using 8.10,
[16:13] <thijs> really? :D
[16:14] <Guest58594> Hi, can anyone recommend a program or script that is capable of taking a bunch of pictures and making a video?
[16:14] <Guest58594> I tried Lives, but it isn't working.
[16:14] <gamerx> cody_ it might, even try the gfx card manufacurer website?
[16:14] <mne> Hi. How can I _dis_able the NX (Execute Disable) protection ?
[16:14] <LongFist> Hi.  Is there a network specialist in the house?  My Ubuntu 8.04 LTS network layer just borked.
[16:14] <cody_> gamerx: Okay, ill look on their website
[16:14] <Jeruvy> Guest42055: kino
[16:14] <thijs> Jordan_U, ok, thank you. Will inform you when it shows me more info, because it needs to download 200+ mb, with a not-so-fast internet connection
[16:14] <Jordan_U> mne: Why?
[16:15] <mne> Jordan_U, not why, how is the big question
[16:15] <Jordan_U> mne: Why is my question though :)
[16:15] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | thijs
[16:16] <llutz> !ask | LongFist
[16:16] <mne> Jordan_U, vulnerability research
[16:16] <LongFist> Sorry.
[16:16] <cody_> gamerx: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_71.86.11.html That might be it
[16:16] <Jeruvy> Guest58594: Oops wrong nick ;)  try kino
[16:17] <llutz> Guest58594: imagemagick, dvd-slideshow
[16:17] <gamerx> cody_ i would just try it and not hope for anyhting :0
[16:17] <LongFist> My Ubuntu 8.04 LTS network layer is no longer functional - hardline or wireless.  Is there a way to fix/reinstall?
[16:18] <cody_> gamerx: Okay, i am. What if GUI happens to fail?
[16:18] <gamerx> cody_, but it looks like it should work fine (hope i didnt jinx it)
[16:18] <psinetic> delvien, http://tinypic.com/r/2chrtw4/4 that's the screenshot of my computer. notice all the black boxes with "no" signs on it. And this is another: http://tinypic.com/r/9i6b69/4 that shows the different "Add Applications" window that I've never seen before.
[16:18] <gamerx> cody_, it shouldnt, although in no expert on linux
[16:18] <juliana_> hola
[16:18] <cody_> gamerx: Lol okay, would i need to get out of GUI to install it?
[16:19] <gamerx> cody_, no you would just use terminal to install it as they say on that site
[16:19] <thijs> ty Pici
[16:19] <juliana_> hay alguna  chica
[16:19] <gamerx> cody_, STEP 3: Install
[16:19] <Guest58594> Kino seems to work, Jeruvy. Thanks.
[16:19] <cody_> gamerx: Okay, i am waiting for ubuntu-restricted-extras to install then i will run its install
[16:20] <juliana_> hola
[16:20] <mne> Jordan_U, kernel boot option noexec=off is the answer
[16:20] <thijs> Jordan_U, ok, the update finished, I'll reboot it now
[16:21] <cody_> gamerx: *chuckle* i do need to quit x :P BRB, quitting X
[16:21] <gamerx> cody_, okay im leave soon too
[16:21] <cody_> gamerx: Okay, i hope i will be done before you do
[16:21] <gamerx> cody_, me too
[16:21] <gamerx> cody_ allthough its allmost 1 am :0
[16:22] <cody_> gamerx: O_O Here it is 9:22 AM
[16:22] <cody_> gamerx: What is the command to stop X?
[16:22] <cody_> sudo /etc/init.d/???? stop
[16:22] <gamerx> cody_, lol lucky you. are you running in command line?
[16:22] <Jordan_U> cody_: gdm
[16:22] <hwilde> cody_, gdm
[16:23] <cody_> Jordan_U and hwilde: Thank you
[16:23] <cody_> gamerx: No, im backing out in TTY
[16:23] <gamerx> cody_ okay
[16:24] <gamerx> anyone here can help me installing kismet?, i did it through synaptic, but now i have no clue how to run it
[16:24] <psinetic> brb all, taking a shower
[16:25] <thijs> Jordan_U, Thank you a lot! That really helped me out with the upgrade part! :D
[16:25] <Jordan_U> thjnp :)
[16:26] <xguru> gamerx: have you looked at this site?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=715348
[16:26] <kermit> genii: i'm not particular on which terminal type, i really don't know the differences
[16:27] <kermit> genii: xterm is certainly faster than what i was using though, which edbian suggested
[16:28] <docmax> hello. my printer is blinking orange! what can i do?
[16:28] <gamerx> xguru, looking at it now
[16:29] <n8tuser> docmax-> what do you want to do? replace your printer?
[16:29] <miha> is there a way to watch tv over network... from notebook on same LAN, rather than desktop PC?
[16:29] <gamerx> how do you remove /away
[16:29] <cody_> where do i find xorg.conf?
[16:29] <IdleOne> /back
[16:29] <xguru> ./back or /away again
[16:29] <gamerx> xguru, cheers
[16:29] <thijs> Nother problem: My system freezes randomly, how do i start solving this problem?
[16:29] <n8tuser> miha there is like using icecast, google for tutorials on these
[16:29] <gamerx> cody_ howd it go?
[16:29] <Repentinus> Hmm.
[16:30] <cody_> gamerx: So far so good, i just need to edit the xorg.conf file. idk where to find it though :p
[16:30] <n8tuser> cody usually in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:30] <gamerx> n8tuser, you are to fast for me
[16:30] <Repentinus> I upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop and the graphics are fucked up now.
[16:30] <cody_> n8tuser: Thank you very much
[16:30] <n8tuser> !language | Repentinus
[16:30] <IdleOne> Repentinus: #ubuntu+1 for karmic and please watch the language
[16:30] <Repentinus> Flickering when I boot up, when I log in and start some apps, display goes crazy.
[16:30] <Repentinus> Sorry, for inappropriate language.
[16:31] <Repentinus> I won't speak like that in the channel anymore.
[16:31] <cody_> I dont see anything the nVidia README tells me to edit
[16:31] <cody_> ill pastebin it
[16:31] <IdleOne> thank you. now /join #ubuntu+1 and they should be able to help
[16:32] <thijs> Another problem: My system freezes randomly, how do i start solving this problem, where do I look for errors and stuff?
[16:32] <werfact> Repentinus, install windows
[16:32] <IdleOne> !windows | werfact
[16:32] <cody_> http://pastebin.ca/1623828 help me with that plz? :)
[16:33] <fatih> hi, how can i install rhytmbox-youtube? http://gitorious.org/rhythmbox-youtube/pages/Home
[16:33] <docmax> n8tuser, normaly windows shows me a message with the cause of that error
[16:33] <docmax> in lunux i have nothing
[16:34] <cody_> http://pastebin.ca/1623828 help me with that plz? :)
[16:35] <henry_> hi there
[16:35] <cody_> henry_: Hello
[16:35] <docmax> hello. my printer is blinking orange! what can i do?
[16:36] <werfact> cody_, yeah they changed corg.conf, so you can't edit shit now
[16:36] <amgarching> cody_:  they are talking about "Device" section
[16:36] <Unknown1x> hello everyone.
[16:36] <thijs> I get a total freeze when using firefox (gmail, loaded and then it freezes)
[16:36] <llutz>  docmax learn to ask less stupid questions, read printer-manual to see what it means
[16:36] <gamerx> is there any way of increasing the max volume, my speakers are all turned up but the noise is low :0
[16:36] <cody_> amgarching: Okay, so just add lines like: Device = nVidia?
[16:36] <n8tuser> docmax-> what does  http://localhost:631  tells you?  am assuming it is attached to your host and not a network shared printer
[16:36] <amgarching> cody_:  "nvidia" watch the case
[16:37] <docmax> llutz, can be anything
[16:37] <nachox> is there any way to limit the usage of su to certain users? or rather prevent some users from using su?
[16:37] <werfact> cody_, did you install nvidia driver?
[16:37] <nsahoo> hi .. I put a CD in. Then an icon appeared on the desktop. But, it is still there when I took the CD out. How do I remove it?
[16:37] <cody_> amgarching: Okay, i will add that real quick
[16:37] <cody_> werfact: Yes, just now
[16:37] <docmax> windows displays a specific answer
[16:37] <grawity> nachox: Don't tell the root password to other users.
[16:37] <werfact> cody_, how? did you reboot?
[16:37] <Madsy> If I install nvidia drivers from source, will that collide with Ubuntus proprietary driver system?
[16:37] <Unknown1x> I have a Wubi Installation of Ubuntu 9.04. Is there a particular reason I am unable to mount my windows partition so that I can play my music?
[16:37] <llutz> docmax: windows != linux so what
[16:37] <IdleOne> docmax: without knowing make and model of the printer, is like me asking you why my car won't start. There is a thousand reasons....
[16:37] <n8tuser> nachox-> yes prevent them with no capabilities in /etc/sudoers file
[16:37] <grawity> Unknown1x: It is already mounted under /host, that's why.
[16:38] <grawity> n8tuser: He said su, not sudo.
[16:38] <cody_> werfact: No i did not reboot, i shut down x server and then started it back up after install was finished. I installed the driver with the one supplied by nvidia (NVIDIA-linux......run
[16:38] <cody_> )
[16:38] <IdleOne> docmax: llutz was a little harsh but he was correct in suggesting you look at the manual for the printer
[16:38] <docmax> IdleOne, the windows driver tell me: wrong paper format f.e.
[16:38] <thijs> Jordan_U, can i ask something more? I just googled a bit about internet usage, and it seems it might be my internet card failing. Would you care to help me out fixing this ?
[16:38] <werfact> cody_, try to reboot first
[16:38] <llutz> IdleOne: i'm far away from bein harsh :)
[16:38] <jkarlos> hello
[16:38] <IdleOne> docmax: then that is probably the issue.
[16:38] <n8tuser> grawity-> my coffee has not kicked in, hehe
[16:38] <cody_> werfact: Okay, reboot
[16:38] <cody_> ing
[16:39] <docmax> i dont know what the issue is
[16:39] <jkarlos> anybody can help me
[16:39] <gamerx> does anyone know of a gui program that shows nearby wireless networks, and their channels, etc.
[16:39] <xguru> jkarlos: maybe, whats the problem
[16:39] <n8tuser> gamerx-> use command line,  sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[16:39] <Unknown1x> grawity, thanks. seems so simple, but I guess you learn something everyday. ;)
[16:39] <psinetic> ok i'm back
[16:39] <jkarlos> well, not is a real problem
[16:39] <grawity> nachox: To limit usage of 'su', you'll have to make sure other users don't know the root password. 'su' does not support other ways - the reasons are described in http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/su-invocation.html
[16:39] <jkarlos> just, im looking for a sofware
[16:39] <grawity> nachox: To limit usage of 'sudo', you'll just remove the users from the 'admin' group.
[16:40] <jkarlos> maby a MRP system o logitic
[16:40] <psinetic> how do you set yourself as "here" in xchat?
[16:40] <jkarlos> or logistic
[16:40] <grawity> psinetic: Try /back
[16:40] <n8tuser> nachox-> besides, not knowing the password of the other users, that user cannot su to the new user
[16:40] <IdleOne> psinetic: /back
[16:40] <nachox> Graviton, su can do more than switching to the root user, and i have a couple of users sharing their passwords, so not disclosing the root password doesnt help here. They dont have it already
[16:40] <gamerx> n8tuser, okay thats great, allthough i asked for gui
[16:40] <psinetic> hmmmmm ok
[16:40] <docmax> cups reports: "If you have more than one Canon iP3500 series printer connected to this machine, please unload (and blacklist) the "usblp" kernel module as otherwise CUPS will not be able to distinguish your printers."
[16:40] <Unknown1x> why would I not have a context menu when I right click on the desktop?
[16:41] <docmax> (???)
[16:41] <grawity> nachox: Well, if user A gives his password to user B, what is the difference between B using 'su', and B simply logging out and logging in again?
[16:41] <cody_> werfact: Okay, now what? I finished rebooting
[16:41] <iggi> nachox: to be most secure, make the root passord nearly impossible (i.e. 64 char upper+lower+num+symbol) then simply remove everyone but your admin user from the admin group, also check /etc/sudoers that also limits who can sudo (which is similar)
[16:41] <xguru> docmax: i haven't had that problem before, but have you tried removing all printers and reinstalling them?
[16:42] <n8tuser> nachox-> perhaps you give a case of what your intentions really are..
[16:42] <docmax> xguru, i will try... one sec
[16:42] <nachox> Graviton, responsability assignment
[16:43] <psinetic> omg you have GOT to be freaking kidding me >_>
[16:43] <nachox> and suauth is what i was looking for
[16:43] <psinetic> ugh!!! >_>
[16:43] <tred> i have a quick and probably easy question, where is the shutdown/reboot/logout timer on jaunty? i want to edit that 30 seconds down to 5 or 10 secs
[16:43] <iggi> nchox: If you hate typing sudo every time, I would suggest removing everyone (but root) from admin, iirc that removed the use of sudo which should be in /sbin/ (non admin cannot see this) then simply add your admin approved users to /etc/sudoers and use sudo -s -H for perm sudo per session
[16:43] <psinetic> now amsn is gone too. freaking great
[16:43] <Sous_Cloporte_88> hi!!
[16:44] <thijs> Can anybody help me with the following ethernet problem? I did a cat /var/log/dmesg | grep eth and i saw this error: ACPI Error(psparse-0530); Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.P0P2.PEGP.LCD ._BQC] (Node f7414978), AE_AML_OPERAND_TYPE
[16:44] <Kilo-Tango> I have OpenSuse & Windows 7 dual booting... If I overwrite OpenSuse with Ubuntu will it keep the dual booting MBR and not hide Windows from me?
[16:44] <thijs> My system totally froze
[16:44] <Sous_Cloporte_88> does anyone know how I can remove the last letter of a file in bash script?
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> Kilo-Tango:  ubuntu will install its own menu and by default it will show windws in the menu.
[16:44] <e66> is there any graph plottng GUI app in kubuntu?? I want to plot y=m-c/x type equation and some advanced functionality like integration, defferentiation etc
[16:44] <werfact> cody_, ok u there?
[16:44] <xguru> tred: http://bigkidsdidit.co.uk/disable-the-shutdown-timer-on-ubuntu  <--- think this will work
[16:45] <cody_> werfact: Yes i am, i have rebooted
[16:45] <amgarching> thijs:  M*eth*od
[16:45] <thijs> e66, There is a science ubuntu distro, maybe check their programs, i bet they've got one
[16:45] <cody_> werfact: And i see no nvidia control panel? :(
[16:45] <Chousuke> e66: octave is a matlab clone, but it's probably a bit heavyweight for you :P
[16:45] <BullHornL> how can i connect to the internet on ubuntu with a nokia phone (pc suite alternative?)
[16:45] <thijs> amgarching, what do you mean ? Sorry I do
[16:45] <Kilo-Tango> I know, but Ubuntus GRUB will still recognize Windows 7 as OpenSuse's GRUB did right Dr_Willis? Your positive?
[16:45] <Sous_Cloporte_88> a login file , that is to be turned into a berkeley db, must end with a "enter"
[16:45] <miha> e66: http://www.gnuplot.info/
[16:45] <thijs> don't understand what you where saying
[16:45] <Dr_Willis> Kilo-Tango:  it did here.
[16:46] <amgarching> thijs: that line has nothing to do with *eth*ernet
[16:46] <e66> miha:  I know about gnuplot. But I need a GUI.
[16:46] <miha> e66 Chousuke there's also real linux matlab :)
[16:46] <Kilo-Tango> ok gracias
[16:46] <tred> i dont want to disable it, just reduce it, plus im using kubuntu
[16:46] <Sous_Cloporte_88> when I add text to this file, I shall remove this "enter" thing, otherwise there will be a blank between the last word and the one I added
[16:46] <cody_> im installing xserver-xorg-dev  right now werfact
[16:46] <cody_> is that okay?
[16:46] <e66> miha:  Not matlab like soft.
[16:46] <Dr_Willis> Kilo-Tango:  the menu entry for windows 7 was idenbtical to the ones it makes for windows earlier versions... its alwyas seen it as far as i know
[16:46] <cody_> well, i guess it down matter much since it finished :p
[16:46] <BullHornL> how can i connect to the internet on ubuntu with a nokia phone (pc suite alternative?)
[16:47] <werfact> cody_, what problem do you have?
[16:47] <thijs> amgarching, Aww, oke... so where do I start looking then? I mean the system freezes after about 5~10 minutes
[16:47] <miha> e66: http://138.77.5.99/oswins/doc/mathematics.html
[16:47] <B9> My Update Manager says: you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. but i can't figure out what to do in sudo once i go there
[16:47] <miha> HMM
[16:47] <miha> sorry
[16:47] <miha> :)
[16:47] <cody_> werfact: I need to edit xorg.conf to where it allows me to add those lines
[16:47] <sczgilae> hello. i have an kubuntu 9.04 installation and for some reasons i have installed GDM to access to the system. The problem is taht when an normal user start session GDM says "creating /home/user directory" and i want to quit this message. anybody knows where is it?
[16:47] <e66> thijs: what is the repo source url of science distro? I'll add them and check packages from synaptic.
[16:47] <grawity> B9: Go to a terminal, and then run this command, exactly like it told you:    sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:47] <erUSUL> B9: you have to manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' <<<
[16:47] <miha> e66: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=9881
[16:48] <tred> in kubuntu when i uncheck the confirms in stystem settings it no longer shows me the options, just drops to a login screen
[16:48] <cody_> werfact: Im going to restart gdm one last time
[16:48] <amgarching> thijs:  looses network connection? or literally freeses? Are you in front of the monitor?
[16:48] <thijs> e66, I wouldn't know, I think it's on their website
[16:49] <B9> grawity: i did that... (thanx for ur help)
[16:49] <cody_> Back werfact
[16:49] <B9> grawity: what do i hav to do now?
[16:49] <thijs> amgarching, literally freezes, can't move mouse, no panic button(alt prnt scr) etc, nothing works, have to hold the power switch to turn it off and on again
[16:50] <thijs> e66, check http://scibuntu.sourceforge.net/
[16:50] <BullHornL> how can i connect to the internet on ubuntu with a nokia phone (pc suite alternative?)
[16:50] <e66> thijs: thaks
[16:51] <werfact> cody_, the only thing i can recomend is find an old xorg.conf file on the net to see where to add the appropriate entries
[16:51] <cody_> How do i install compiz-check?
[16:51] <thijs> e66, np.
[16:51] <werfact> cody_, and u need to edit as root
[16:51] <wrapster> interesting scenario... system monitor doesnt even show vbox running?
[16:51] <cody_> werfact: okay
[16:51] <e66> miha:  Thanks, I got bunch of things.
[16:51] <wrapster> how is it possibe?
[16:51] <amgarching> thijs: this doesnt need to be network. Check if it runs longer in runlevel 2 or 3. (execute "init 2" or add "2" at the grub prompt)
[16:52] <thijs> amgarching, alright, will try that
[16:52] <cody_> werfact: http://www.crowsons.net/puters/txt/xorg.conf.fcm.txt like that?
[16:52] <amgarching> thijs: I use Cups-Lock to chek the LED in such cases
[16:52] <Pici> amgarching, thijs: In Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal.
[16:53] <cody_> is there any command or downloadable terminal command to allow me to create my own xorg.conf file without editing it myself?
[16:53] <thijs> amgarching, that one doesn't switch either. Anyway, do i just add a 2 in the grub kernel entry? (like after the "ro splash")
[16:53] <werfact> cody_, yeah that should work, just make sure you put them under right places, if you mess up, you can restore a backup from a console
[16:53] <amgarching> thijs, Pici: then run "stop gdm" right after boot, see what Pici had told
[16:53] <esther> hello
[16:54] <thijs> thank you for the explanation Pici
[16:54] <cody_> werfact: okay
[16:54] <andrewflix> ciao
[16:54] <andrewflix> !list
[16:55] <thijs> ok, so do i login via the gdm, or do I already switch to different runlevel ?
[16:56] <nsahoo> I don't seem to have java on firefox 3.5.3. How can I install it?
[16:56] <amgarching> thijs: login first, then stop the graphics subsystem by "sudo stop gdm", then stress-test your network scp/wget
[16:56] <thijs> amgarching, alright
[16:58] <amgarching> thijs: you dont even need to login into graphics, type Cnrtl-Alt-F1, login there and then "sudo stop gdm"
[16:58] <thijs> amgarching, umm, i just entered 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' but i just see a black screen with a flickering character in the left corner. Shall I go to another runlevel? (ctrl+alt f3)
[16:58] <cody_> werfact: Restarting GDM
[16:59] <grawity> thijs: That's called a terminal (or a tty) - not a runlevel.
[16:59] <amgarching> thijs: Cntrl-Alt-F1 should give you a login prompt
[16:59] <Madsy> Again, is it safe to install the nvidia drivers from source, instead of using the "proprietary drivers" GUI?
[16:59] <TeLe> anyone having problems with flashplayer installer working in firefox 3.5.5
[16:59] <thijs> grawity, thank you
[16:59] <Pici> !crosspost | TeLe
[17:00] <grawity> thijs: Usually ttys 1-6 are set for text-only logins, and the seventh has X running (the GUI)
[17:00] <psinetic> alright folks, it's 1 am, night night time.
[17:00] <thijs> amgarching, yeah, i logged in, and stopped the display mgr, just need to think of some download that will stress the network
[17:00] <thijs> grawity, thank you. That was clarifying
[17:01] <amgarching> thijs: "w3m" is a console web-browser
[17:01] <Unknown1x> why would I not have a context menu when I right click on the desktop?
[17:01] <soulchild> Hi all...
[17:03] <thijs> amgarching, alright. well i can surf around and no freeze yet. So is this a display problem? =/
[17:03] <subito> to get ubuntu 64 bits, do i have to fully reinstall my system?
[17:03] <erUSUL> subito: yes
[17:03] <Biganon> Guys
[17:03] <Biganon> I've deleted /etc/apache2
[17:03] <subito> erUSUL: too bad :(
[17:03] <Biganon> and I can't get it back with a reinstall
[17:03] <Biganon> what should I do
[17:03] <Biganon> ?
[17:04] <perlsyntax> Can you install like fluxbox and other one from apt-get?
[17:04] <amgarching> thijs: graphics is another week point in linux, maybe. Was it a fresh install? What Ubuntu version?
[17:04] <thijs> amgarching, sort of fresh install, and ubuntu 8.10
[17:05] <cody_> LOL, im kinda screwed. That one xorg.conf file is no good, im trying to restore to backups ;) bbs
[17:05] <Biganon> Hey
[17:06] <Biganon> I've removed /etc/apache2, I can't get it back by re-installing apache2
[17:06] <Biganon> What should I do
[17:06] <Biganon> ?
[17:06] <amgarching> thijs: what is you graphics card "lspci -v", "grep -i Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[17:06] <BlouBlou> !enter | Biganon
[17:06] <thijs> amgarching, fresh as in no stuff installed yet, but installing was a little bit of a problem because it would constantly crash
[17:06] <Pici> Biganon: reinstall apache2-common
[17:06] <amgarching> thijs: check the CPU fan
[17:07] <Biganon> Pici: I've already done that
[17:07] <Guest59302> Anyone feel like screwing with X settings with me?
[17:07] <thijs> amgarching, is there any possibility how i can post that from CLI to somewhere else?
[17:08] <cody_> Okay, im back on a default xorg.conf
[17:08] <trijntje> thijs, install pastebinit
[17:09] <thijs> trijntje, thanks, though i installed openssh-server, so having a terminal here too :D
[17:09] <cody_> restarting GDM one last time
[17:09] <amgarching> thijs:  lspci -v | mail you@mail.com, may or may not work, dont remember
[17:11] <cody_> Okay. In my xorg.conf in the first section, i added Device "nvidia" and Load "glx" and now i get this error: Problem parsing config file.. Error parsing config file
[17:11] <cody_> i have a backup ready if i need to restore
[17:12] <cody_> Im in TTY (CTRL+ALT+F1)
[17:12] <amgarching> cody_: Load "glx" probably belongs to a different section
[17:12] <cody_> amgarching: Any idea what section?
[17:13] <amgarching> cody_: your pastbin was talking about "Modules"
[17:13] <thijs> amgarching, it's taking a little long, but i'm posting to pastebin. Sec... http://pastebin.ca/1623857
[17:13] <cody_> amgarching: Correct, but there is no such section as modules
[17:13] <DeathFox> my cd rom dont wanna eject 90 percent of the time it acts like it does but the trey dont come out
[17:13] <DeathFox> what is it probleyu
[17:13] <DeathFox> typo
[17:13] <amgarching> cody_:  copy/paste rename another one
[17:14] <cody_> amgarching: Okay, will i need to restore my backup first? or can i edit it inside TTY1?
[17:14] <thijs> amgarching, in the comments i posted the xorg driver
[17:14] <Biganon> it's okay
[17:14] <pusewicz-werk> hi, with ld, how can I lislist shared objects for a binary?
[17:14] <Biganon> I had to reinstall : libapache2-mod-php5
[17:14] <Biganon> thank you for your "help".
[17:15] <cody_> !attitude
[17:15] <amgarching> thijs: this is your GPU: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series
[17:15] <cody_> i am going to restore my oringal xorg. brb
[17:15] <thijs> GPU = graphical processing unit?
[17:15] <plue> yes
[17:15] <thijs> as in: yes thats my video card
[17:16] <amgarching> thijs: google for it, maybe somebody already has reported similar problems
[17:16] <thijs> amgarching, alright, thank you for all your time already
[17:17] <amgarching> thijs: no problem, sitting and waiting for the second upgrade 8.10 -> 9.04 -> 9.10 to finish ...
[17:17] <thijs> amgarching, it has some problems for jaunty, but u see it worked a few months ago...
[17:17] <cody_> Okay, restoring xorg.conf did not work, i got error: Greeter application failed.
[17:17] <thijs> ahh, you going alpha ehh
[17:18] <saba_> Is it possible to resize icons in the panels, when they are hovered by the mouse? in GNOME
[17:18] <docmax> i fixed the problem
[17:18] <cody_> Im restoring ubuntu haha. I am SO glad i have a sep partition for /home ;) thing is, how do i make the installation know that is /home
[17:19] <LaireTM> Is it possible to mount a ftp folder?
[17:19] <thijs> amgarching, do you think this would help me as well: http://www.paulocabido.com/ubuntu/ati-mobility-radeon-hd-3400-series-jaunty-xorg-and-compiz/
[17:19] <n8tuser> cody_-> during install, you select that /home as part of the install
[17:20] <n8tuser> docmax what was troubling the printer? and how were you able to get the status you seeked earlier?
[17:20] <cody_> n8tuser: Okay, but wont it format it?
[17:20] <LaireTM> Found only lufs, but that isn't in my Synaptic
[17:20] <n8tuser> cody_-> there is a selection to format it or not, do not check formatting it
[17:21] <cody_> n8tuser: OOOOOOOOOOOH okay. Thank you very much! restoring ubuntu now :)
[17:21] <axisys> where can I get a driver fro hp le2201w 22" lcd monitor ?
[17:21] <LaireTM> Found only lufs, but that isn't in my apt
[17:21] <llutz> axisys: displays usually don't need a driver
[17:22] <sczgilae> hello. i have an kubuntu 9.04 installation and because of some reasons i have installed GDM to access to the system. The problem is that when an normal user start session GDM says "creating /home/user directory" and i want to quit this message. anybody knows where is it?
[17:22] <axisys> llutz: i have 22" that supports 1600 x 1400 .. but i get only 1024
[17:23] <llutz> axisys: your video-card needs configuration
[17:23] <axisys> llutz: how do I do it? or are you saying my video card may not support it?
[17:23] <docmax> n8tuser, i just hold the button on the printer for 5 sec
[17:23] <llutz> axisys: what card are you using?
[17:23] <docmax> but i still never know why its blinking...
[17:24] <thijs> Is there a possibility of installing a different distro from a livecd without installing the livecd?
[17:24] <amgarching> thijs: no idea. Ask people what is known about your ATI. I've met only Intel/Nvidia. Next thing I would try is to put Device = "vesa" into Driver section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf, it will be terribly slow, but will test the graphics subsytem
[17:24] <axisys> llutz: i am using hp nc6220 laptop .. and here is the lshw http://pastebin.com/f798634ee
[17:25] <thijs> amgarching, alright.. Will ask around a bit then. :) Thank you
[17:25] <axisys> llutz: Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
[17:25] <Rumo> Hi @ all:
[17:25] <Rumo> I have a >Intel Modem PCI 56K CTR-21< and get the following line when I type lspci:
[17:25] <Rumo> 01:06.0 Communication controller: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Tiger3XX Modem/ISDN interface
[17:25] <Rumo> what does it mean? which driver do i need to run it under ubuntu 9.04 64 BIT ??
[17:25] <axisys> llutz: driver=agpgart-intel module=intel_agp
[17:25] <FloodBot3> Rumo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:26] <n8tuser> docmax wrong paper size?  i have to struggle with that myself, i didnt realize that OpenOffice defaults to european A4 on another pc, and when brought over to where my printer is, it carries that A4 and my default is letter size
[17:26] <llutz> axisys: try xrandr
[17:26] <maurer_> How do I set a wireless connection to remain active when I log out?
[17:26] <thijs> Anybody knows how to get the ATI Radeon 3400HD card working correct on ubuntu 8.10?
[17:26] <docmax> n8tuser, whe have to struggle cause we use ubuntu
[17:27] <incentifit> I've created a developer group and added several developer users to that group.  My user account's home has a "tools" folder that contains a couple of command line applications that I want other developers to be able to use.  Where should I move these applications so that current and new users can use them?  I'm guessing there is a proper location for such things.
[17:27] <n8tuser> maurer_-> how do you know wireless if not connected once you log out?
[17:27] <axisys> llutz: http://pastebin.com/feacdab4
[17:27] <docmax> driver support is choppy
[17:27] <n8tuser> docmax-> what? your blaming ubuntu? perhaps use a better printer like HP ?
[17:27] <maurer_> n8tuser: I have a backgrounded process, I log out of the gnome interface, and when I come back it is complaining that the network disappeared.
[17:28] <llutz> axisys: seems the intel-driver doesn't support that resolution. try driver "intel"
[17:28] <trikiki> hi
[17:28] <n8tuser> maurer_-> what does your background process do? access the net?
[17:28] <trikiki> I have a doubht with openssl, I read that when I send the csr to the ca this is signed by my private key (to check my private and public key are correct) is that correct ?
[17:28] <Rumo> Hi @ all:               I have a >Intel Modem PCI 56K CTR-21< and get the following line when I type lspci:               01:06.0 Communication controller: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Tiger3XX Modem/ISDN interface          what does it mean? which driver do i need to run it under ubuntu 9.04 64 BIT ??
[17:28] <axisys> llutz: where do I get the driver 'intel' ?
[17:28] <maurer_> n8tuser: Yes--it is actually just a test to get the net working so I can use krb5 as an alternate auth method when in network range.
[17:29] <n8tuser> incentifit-> usually in /usr/local/bin
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> !dialup > rumo
[17:29] <LaireTM> Hello, how i can mount a FTP Server?
[17:29] <llutz> axisys: create a xorg.conf, load it there
[17:29] <IdleOne> docmax: it is not Linux fault if driver support for your printer is "choppy" complain to the manufacturer and ask them to put out some linux drivers for the product
[17:29] <whileimhere> hi. I was wondering if I have two machines, one wired and one wireless on the same router how hard is it to set one up so that I can control its files via the wireless machine?
[17:29] <n8tuser> maurer_-> tried  screen perhaps?
[17:29] <cody____> Okay, im halfway through the install. Is Ext4 or Ext3 better?
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> LaireTM: http://ubuntu-install.blogspot.com/2009/05/ftp-site-in-fstab.html
[17:30] <cody____> im going to install jaunty, then upgade to karmic after it is installe
[17:30] <cody____> d
[17:30] <maurer_> n8tuser: This does not help. The problem is that nm-applet/NetworkManager kills the connection when I log out of the graphical interface. I can background the process just fine.
[17:30] <n8tuser> whileimhere-> i think i advise you of this before, unless you get yourself familiar with routing, do not have two interfaces on same subnet (served by same router)
[17:30] <callnett> hi
[17:30] <axisys> llutz: can't do it dynamically.. like dpkg-reconfiure something?
[17:30] <n8tuser> maurer_-> you can try do disable nm-applet and just use the /etc/network/interfaces file
[17:31] <callnett> wich program i need to install programs because i get errors
[17:31] <maurer_> n8tuser: OK, do we have any nice config tools for setting up WPA there, or is it just an edit by hand deal at this point?
[17:31] <cody____> I'm at the partitioning part of the install of ubuntu 9.04. I am wanting to know if Ext 3 or Ext 4 is better (P.S. i am going to upgrade to karmic koala after)
[17:31] <Rumo> ActionParsnip: what do you mean by !dialup   ??
[17:32] <n8tuser> maurer_-> by hand, and all those can be controlled via the /etc/nework/if-up.d
[17:32] <n8tuser> maurer_-> man interfaces
[17:32] <cody____> I'll just use Ext 4
[17:32] <n8tuser> Rumo->  you require dial up access still?
[17:32] <IdleOne> cody____: karmic uses ext4 default. so use ext4, wether is is better or worse is a matter of opinion. ext4 works fine here with jaunty
[17:32] <cody____> IdleOne: Okay, thank you
[17:33] <Rumo> n8tuser: no have no access here (dial up)
[17:33] <MrSchmo> any know how to use Kismet? i got this program running and it was probing wireless networks around me. but when i tried to close out the program, my wireless connections stopped working. i can get my wireless up until i reboot my computer. why is that?
[17:33] <Rumo> n8tuser: but i travel to a village and theres only dial up...
[17:33] <cody____> okay, going to go wash family dishes, brb
[17:34] <cody____> its also installing :p
[17:34] <n8tuser> MrSchmo-> try to use sudo ifup wlan0  and if the driver somehow got unloaded, use modprobe or insmod to reload it
[17:35] <n8tuser> without rebooting
[17:35] <tntc> is there a way to make my touchscreen pointer different from my regular pointer in Xorg?
[17:35] <tntc> just when I touch the screen?
[17:35] <n8tuser> Rumo-> what is the problem you're having with dial up? i did not read the entire question you had earlier
[17:35] <mortezaes> Hi everybody
[17:35] <mortezaes> Is it possible to create an image from flash memory with dd ?
[17:35] <mortezaes> I tried it, but when i put the image on flash again, the flash was damaged (Unformatted)
[17:35] <LaireTM> ActionParsnip: the first command give me an error
[17:35] <iamleneko> hi
[17:36] <erUSUL> mortezaes: what dd command you used ?
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> mortezaes:  dd if=/dev/sda1 of=whatever  for a partition.. use 'sda' for the whole drive
[17:36] <iamleneko> i am into update to the karmic beta
[17:36] <erUSUL> !karmic | iamleneko
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> mortezaes:  for 'bad' media - youmay want to try dd_rescue or some similer recovery tools
[17:36] <Rumo> n8tuser: Hi @ all: I have a >Intel Modem PCI 56K CTR-21< and get the following line when I type lspci: 01:06.0 Communication controller: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Tiger3XX Modem/ISDN interface what does it mean? which driver do i need to run it under ubuntu 9.04 64 BIT ??
[17:36] <LaireTM> ActionParsnip: but its in in geman and i dont now the translation
[17:36] <mortezaes> erUSUL: as Dr_Willis said
[17:36] <iamleneko> (i know this)
[17:36] <thijs> amgarching, I started gdm again, and not copying files, (no firefox open) and it hasn't froze yet. Does that mean it might not be the driver problems but still firefox?
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> mortezaes:  take care to not use 'sda' when you mean 'sda1'
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Rumo: ubottu gave you a factoid to read with some links
[17:36] <iamleneko> just it seems to freeze at configuring mysql-server
[17:37] <iamleneko> wonder how i can bypass this to let it finish
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> LaireTM: i havent given any commands, only to rumo
[17:37] <erUSUL> mortezaes: with sda1 ? you should have dome the whole drive (sda) to avoid confusion when restoring (as Dr_Willis has said)
[17:37] <mortezaes> Thx Dr_Willis
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> !dialup > Rumo
[17:37] <n8tuser> Rumo-> umm it looks like thats a Windows modem, so you may not get the correct driver, trial and error is your best bet..  look for it at intel web site?
[17:37] <Rumo> ActionParsnip: i read this before...
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Rumo: thats how you get modems working
[17:37] <erUSUL> mortezaes: becouse if you read sda1 and then restored to sda you loose the mbr and table of parition etc
[17:37] <iamleneko> ah
[17:37] <iamleneko> sorry
[17:38] <iamleneko> not in the right room
[17:38] <mortezaes> ok erUSUL , thank u
[17:38] <gpled> what is a good video card for ubuntu, when building a nice desktop?
[17:38] <LaireTM> ActionParsnip: The first command on the page, wich link you posted
[17:38] <werfact> how can i upgrade installed app from the install file of the new version of the app?
[17:38] <Xcell> gpled-  nvidia 7600 or better
[17:39] <HexTasy_> so I'm trying to PXE/Netboot Ubuntu-live for PPC.  All works untill it tried to find the CDROM - which I have the contents of exported via NFS on my server.
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> !info curlftpfs
[17:39] <HexTasy_> is there a boot option or something to tell the kernel not to look for a CDROM, and use NFS instead?
[17:39] <gpled> Xcell: thanks
[17:39] <Xcell> ok
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> LaireTM: make sure you have universe repository enabled
[17:40] <amgarching> thijs: running firefox is a kind of stress-test of graphics. If graphics driver is buggy it may expose the bugs. Try running OpenGL apps, also an extreme test.
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> could run doom3 natively, thats fun :D
[17:40] <amgarching> thijs: glxgears is a simple OpenGL app
[17:40] <thijs> amgarching, how do i know what kind of app is an opengl app? Which apps are written with openGL ?
[17:40] <ichat> HexTasy_:  -  debian hass network install's
[17:40] <thijs> k
[17:40] <thijs> ty
[17:41] <HexTasy_> but I'm not working with an install
[17:41] <HexTasy_> i'm working with a LiveCD
[17:41] <nerdy_kid> i cant make my ftp server work
[17:41] <nerdy_kid> been trying to get it to work for months
[17:41] <TheJesus> nerdy_kid: Get any errors ?
[17:42] <TheJesus> or Just wrong configuration
[17:42] <TonyB82> Hi all. I have Ubuntu 9.04 and I need to install Ghostscript 8.63, but the latest in the repositories for 9.04 is 8.61. Is there an easy way to get it?
[17:42] <ichat> HexTasy_:  -  its possible  ive seen howto's about it,   for example on howto  for  filezilla...
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> TonyB82: you will need a PPA
[17:42] <jhg> !help
[17:42] <adamkex> how good is the hardware support in the mini cd, which is only 10-30mb large?
[17:43] <HexTasy_> everything work fine till it tries to mount the CDROM - I just want it to try and mount NFS instead of the physical CDROM
[17:43] <thijs> amgarching, there's no such thing as glxgears apparently
[17:43] <Slart> adamkex: iirc it downloads the same packages included on the normal install cd.. so it should be the same
[17:43] <sczgilae> HI! i have this code http://pastebin.com/d5f402f7f   in /etc/profile to put some shortcuts on the users desktop depends of the language they choose but in /etc/profile doesnt run. If i run manually everything is ok. i supose that when /etc/profile executes the Desktop directory dont exist still .
[17:43] <ichat> HexTasy_:  - it boot an boot image from tftp,  and than mounts either an nfs  ftp or even a http stream for its live image... let me look where i fount it
[17:43] <nerdy_kid> TheJesus when i try to list dir contents from terminal :500 Illegal PORT Command ftp: bind: Address already in use  (i forwarded the correct ports)  what is happening is it is sending the data encypted to random ports
[17:43] <nerdy_kid> cant fix it
[17:44] <TonyB82> OK, I've searched on launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas for ghostscript, but it doesn't return anything. What can I do?
[17:44] <adamkex> Slart: i meant would it support all hardware before it connects to the internet
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> thijs: amgarching: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Glxgears_is_not_a_Benchmark
[17:44] <Slart> adamkex: I think the installer itself supports the same hardware..
[17:44] <thijs> thx ActionParsnip
[17:44] <jhg> HI I am trying to install ubuntu onto a Gigabyte Mini PC (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Barebone/Products_Spec.aspx?ProductID=2016) The installer works fine but the system is unable to boot into a graphical desktop. I get a black screen but can switch tty and the console works.
[17:44] <adamkex> Slart: ok, thank you
[17:45] <Slart> adamkex: you're welcome
[17:45] <HexTasy_> ichat: I have no problems botting the image.  but as I said, I don't want it to look for a CDROM, I want it to use NFS
[17:46] <amgarching> thijs: try "aptitude install mesa-utils", ActionParsnip: his X with ATI is freezing randomly.
[17:46] <callnett> ActionParsnip: i have a new laptop without cd rom, i uploud ubuntu with usb everyting very nice, fine
[17:46] <callnett> so i like it but i cant use because i cant made any other instalation
[17:46] <callnett> like opera because when i install its came out some errors
[17:46] <iceroot> any traffic-counter for (umts)network connection, so that i can the the traffic i used a month
[17:46] <Rumo> >Intel Modem PCI 56K CTR-21<     doesnt work on 64bit architecture.....
[17:46] <nerdy_kid> i set up an ftp server (wu-ftpd) but it insists on being a sftp connection, how to fix?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> callnett: can you pastebin the errors so we can see them
[17:46] <Rumo> does somone knows a 56K modem for linux and 64 bit??
[17:47] <KaibutsuX> Hey guys, I've got a very unusual question about my integrated NIC
[17:47] <MR_OS> hello can any1 plzguide me how can i WRITE on HFS formated disk in ubutu?
[17:47] <iceroot> KaibutsuX: what about asking the qqeustion?
[17:47] <nerdy_kid> MR_OS not possible if the disk is in journaling mode
[17:47] <jhg> MR_OS: have you tried using fuse?
[17:47] <callnett> ActionParsnip: how
[17:48] <MR_OS> how can i check if it is in journaling mode? how can i change it?
[17:48] <TheJesus> nerdy_kid: Can you access it from localhost so 127.0.0.1?
[17:48] <sczgilae> HI! i have this code http://pastebin.com/d5f402f7f   in /etc/profile to put some shortcuts on the users desktop depends of the language they choose but in /etc/profile doesnt run. If i run manually everything is ok. i supose that when /etc/profile executes the Desktop directory dont exist still .
[17:48] <nerdy_kid> TheJesus yes, and via sftp
[17:48] <KaibutsuX> I only know this because I was trying to dual boot xp and ubuntu, but my lan says media disconnected in ipconfig in windows and the wired light is off on the router when I'm in windows, but when I run the livecd for linux, the light turns back on and I have wired lan, I reboot back into windows and now the nic is on, but if I reboot again, no more internet in windows until I do this reset thing by running ubuntu again
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> callnett: copy all the output. go to http://pastebin.com  and paste the text there and type your name, when you click paste you will see a new page. Copy the address bar and paste it here
[17:48] <iceroot> nerdy_kid: sftp comes from openssh-server
[17:49] <jhg> HI I am trying to install ubuntu onto a Gigabyte Mini PC (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Barebone/Products_Spec.aspx?ProductID=2016) The installer works fine but the system is unable to boot into a graphical desktop. I get a black screen but can switch tty and the console works.
[17:49] <_Trullo> anyone got any idea why atilibusb won't load?
[17:49] <nerdy_kid> iceroot, yeah but the issue is that i can only access my ftp server from a sftp client onless im on LAN
[17:50] <iceroot> nerdy_kid: run nmap from lan to see if the port is open
[17:50] <nerdy_kid> MR_OS sorry not a mac user, itd be in you disk config utility, no idea were it is sorry
[17:50] <iceroot> nerdy_kid: port for ftp
[17:50] <llutz> nerdy_kid: setup ftp to passive mode and check your portforwarding
[17:50] <nerdy_kid> iceroot it is, the encypted data is sent to random ports so it doesn't help
[17:50] <thijs> amgarching, http://pastebin.com/f629780ff
[17:51] <nerdy_kid> the server or client to passive?
[17:51] <nerdy_kid> iceroot the server or client to passive?
[17:51] <iceroot> nerdy_kid: fromclient look with nmap if the prt is open
[17:51] <iceroot> nerdy_kid: port 21 imo
[17:51] <KaibutsuX> anyone know about my NIC?
[17:51] <thijs> amgarching, i searched for opengl in the package manager, and installed Achilles, some sort of opengl stuff. It's been running steadily for 5min+
[17:52] <tobylane> When i convert from fat to ntfs what happens to the files
[17:52] <nerdy_kid> iceroot it is
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> tobylane: i'd ask in ##windows
[17:52] <tobylane> k
[17:52] <iceroot> nerdy_kid: ftp serveradress    from terminal, says what?
[17:52] <phate> hi
[17:53] <iceroot> nerdy_kid: from client terminal
[17:53] <asus901> Hello
[17:53] <JonathanEllis> !hello | asus901
[17:53] <nerdy_kid> iceroot logs on, but when i try to list dir contents (ls) it gives me the error.  I wiresharked it, its sending ssl packets
[17:54] <iceroot> nerdy_kid: ftp != ssl
[17:54] <simmerz> hi, i'm trying to use 2 screens with an nvidia card and twinview. on OS X when I try the same, the two screens are actually different sizes but in Ubuntu, the usable area includes a massive block of non-existant space. any idea why?
[17:54] <asus901> I need your help...
[17:54] <asus901> I have a laptop, that in bios, SATA AHCI and I have installed Ubuntu in the bios so well ... SATA AHCI but on reboot, will not start. It cuelgua after the Ubuntu loading bar and black screen. If so I select SATA IDE Bios loads correctly and works perfect. But I read that SATA AHCI is compatible with Ubuntu. I have to do, to start Ubuntu in SATA AHCI mode?
[17:54] <nerdy_kid> iceroot right, thats the problem, the stupid 'ftp' server is really a sftp server, which i dont want.
[17:54] <iceroot> nerdy_kid: then use proftpd
[17:54] <iceroot> nerdy_kid: or any other working ftp-server
[17:54] <llutz> simmerz: because thats the way X handles screens.
[17:55] <iceroot> nerdy_kid: and sftp = ftp over ssh, not ftp with ssl
[17:55] <simmerz> llutz: seems wrong to me
[17:55] <iceroot> nerdy_kid: you mean ftps
[17:55] <MR_OS> thanks nerdy_kid i have found a wokaround i will reboot to try it now... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2346494#post2346494
[17:55] <phate> i tried that http://eklenet.de/archives/Funktionstasten-des-SL500-unter-Linux-9.html but it doesnt work, can somebody help me?
[17:55] <amgarching> thijs: they seem to be discussing "radeon" vs. "fglrx" drivers for ATI on the internets, learn which you are using, learn the difference. Eventualy try both. No further ideas what is going wrong.
[17:55] <simmerz> i mean, i add something to my desktop and it disappears off to the top of my usable area that i can't see or use
[17:56] <simmerz> and my mouse goes off into the invisible area past the toolbars - also a bit odd
[17:56] <nerdy_kid> iceroot ok sorry maybe it is get them mixed up, which ever one sends the data part encrypted.  ive tryed several diffent servers, they all do the same thing. sorry to be a pain, but i really have no clue why :(
[17:56] <thijs> amgarching, thank you for all your time and effort. However, i still think it's firefox, i mean it's running, downloading, playing music, and running an opengl app.
[17:57] <over51> buonasera
[17:57] <callnett> ActionParsnip:thanks
[17:57] <iceroot> nerdy_kid: hm, sounds strange
[17:57] <nerdy_kid> iceroot lol all the people i ask say that haha
[17:57] <asus901> I have a laptop, that in bios, SATA AHCI and I have installed Ubuntu in the bios so well ... SATA AHCI but on reboot, will not start. It cuelgua after the Ubuntu loading bar and black screen. If so I select SATA IDE Bios loads correctly and works perfect. But I read that SATA AHCI is compatible with Ubuntu. I have to do, to start Ubuntu in SATA AHCI mode?
[17:58] <whileimhere> Hi. When I boot the machine it drops to a command line. I am not sure what I did to the GDM but is there a way to reinstall the gdm or whatnot without re-installing the whole system?
[17:58] <nerdy_kid> iceroot i mean, its not an issue from linux to linux connections, but windows doesnt have native support(that i know of) for sftp
[17:58] <ubuntu_> Hi, where can I go with problems on the karmic beta
[17:58] <adamkex> what does the server version of ubuntu install?
[17:58] <iceroot> whileimhere: what tells    sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[17:58] <nerdy_kid> ubuntu #ubuntu+1
[17:58] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 ubuntu_
[17:58] <ubuntu_> #ubuntu+1
[17:59] <ubuntu_> woops
[17:59] <ubuntu_> srry
[17:59] <iceroot> nerdy_kid: tried filezilla as client?
[17:59] <amgarching> thijs: Get google-chrome to verify your suspicion. Good luck. I'm leaving, upgrade is over.
[17:59] <whileimhere> iceroot: I dont know. I even try running the startx from the cli and get that it cant find any screens. I was playing with the reconfigure of the xserver but it failed aboislui
[17:59] <thijs> amgarching, thanks. And goodluck with your karmic release!
[18:00] <timothyp> Hello, I just installed ubuntu netbook remix 9.10 on an eeepc, just like all the previous versions and eeebuntu the SD card does not load automatically. when I insert it /var/log/messages indicates sb1 , when I try to mount it it claims there is no such device
[18:00] <iceroot> whileimhere: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak && sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[18:00] <callnett> ActionParsnip:failed to install package opera10.10.4672.gcc4.qt3_i386.deb'
[18:00] <nerdy_kid> iceroot i know i can manualy install sftp clients but its a pain, and i dont want to have to install additional software on all the windows i need to use
[18:00] <iceroot> whileimhere: all in one line
[18:00] <whileimhere> okay
[18:00] <whileimhere> one sec Ill try it.
[18:02] <iceroot> timothyp: #ubuntu+1
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> callnett: is your ubuntu 32bit or 64bit?
[18:02] <timothyp> ok
[18:02] <cordor> help! scim-bridge has UDP to 67.55.0.11:53, is that normal?
[18:02] <timothyp> (although it does aplply to previous versions as well)
[18:02] <hwilde> how to get detailed wirless statistics?  iwlist ?
[18:03] <callnett> ActionParsnip:dpkg:unable to read filedescriptor flagsfor<package status and progress file descriptor>:bad file descriptor
[18:03] <whileimhere> Iceroot: That worked. Now if I reboot will it hold?
[18:03] <iceroot> whileimhere: yes
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> callnett: fine ok, is your OS 64bit or 32bit?
[18:03] <callnett> ActionParsnip:32
[18:03] <whileimhere> iceroot: THANKS!
[18:03] <iceroot> whileimhere: we deleted your old xorg.conf and if x-server cant find a xorg.conf it will create a new (most times working) one#
[18:04] <whileimhere> Iceroot: Do you know anything about how to directly boot into a program and not use XFCE but something lighter like fluxbox or even startx ?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> callnett: ok gimme a sec
[18:04] <datz> Hi, I'm wondering how I can get a nvidia control panel on my ubuntu desktop?
[18:04] <iceroot> whileimhere: you want to start a GUI-program directly without a desktop environment?
[18:05] <iceroot> datz: installing the nonfree-driver
[18:05] <callnett> ActionParsnip: ok, take your time
[18:05] <nerdy_kid> datz nvidia-settings
[18:05] <datz> iceroot, I'm pretty sure it's installed.
[18:05] <datz> nerdy_kid, is that a command?
[18:05] <whileimhere> iceroot: I am setting my MAME cab up and want retain as much system resources for the MAME program as I can. I would like to boot directly in to the frontend called wahcade
[18:06] <iceroot> datz: type oon the terminal nvidia and then twitimes the tab-key
[18:06] <nerdy_kid> datz yeah
[18:06] <mgv1> not always i able to see the address bar history-  why?
[18:06] <iceroot> wiretapped: hm and wahcade is an x-app?
[18:07] <datz> nerdy_kid:  install: missing destination file operand after `nvidia-settings'
[18:07] <datz> tried to install it
[18:07] <xdccMule[1802WZ]> ciao
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> callnett: run all this as one command: cd ~/; wget http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=32303&location=40&nothanks=yes&sub=marine; sudo dpkg -i ./opera_10.10.4672.gcc4.qt3_i386.deb
[18:07] <xdccMule[1802WZ]> !list
[18:07] <whileimhere> iceroot: wahcade is written in python.
[18:08] <datz> nerdy_kid nevermind I think.  forgot apt-get :) been using yum latley
[18:08] <iceroot> whileimhere: that is not saying if it is needing x or not
[18:08] <iceroot> wiretapped: imo
[18:08] <iceroot> wiretapped: sorry wrong nick
[18:08] <whileimhere> iceroot: I think that wahcade needs some DE. I am sure that it needs X
[18:08] <iceroot> whileimhere: so why not using a very small de?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> callnett: id yu add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list   you can use apt-get to install it: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ jaunty partner
[18:09] <whileimhere> iceroot: I rebooted. It takes me to the CL
[18:09] <iceroot> whileimhere: xfce4 or smaller
[18:09] <nerdy_kid> datz did you install the nvidia driver through the Hardware Drivers program?
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> callnett: you will need to run this to import the opera key: wget -O - http://deb.opera.com/archive.key | sudo apt-key add -
[18:09] <ManDay> Say, when is Karmic due?
[18:09] <iceroot> whileimhere: normal ubuntu or server-edition?
[18:09] <xdccMule[1802WZ]> hi
[18:09] <ManDay> 22nd, was it?
[18:09] <whileimhere> iceroot: Normal
[18:09] <xdccMule[1802WZ]> !list
[18:09] <iceroot> whileimhere: installed adriver by hand?
[18:10] <ManDay> !karmic
[18:10] <datz> nerdy_kid, installing a package "nvidia-settings"
[18:10] <whileimhere> iceroot: I do not know what a driver is
[18:10] <TheJesus> is it safe to use the * , so apt-get remove gnome*
[18:11] <iceroot> TheJesus: no
[18:11] <TheJesus> I want to remove all gnome
[18:11] <iceroot> TheJesus: i am very sure that will break your system
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> !purekde | TheJesus
[18:11] <whileimhere> iceroot: If I installed fluxbox via synaptic and then wanted to boot into fluxbox and then wahcade automagically how would I do that?
[18:11] <JonathanEllis> Is there a simple way to get a list of packages installed on my machine that are additional to the default install? I want to upgrade my distro from Hardy Studio to Jaunty Desktop but I dont want to retain all the Studio stuff, just the extra packages I installed myself.
[18:11] <iceroot> whileimhere: at loginscreen choose fluxxbox session
[18:12] <datz> nerdy_kid, just waiting for updates to finish before I can install. thanks. ;)
[18:12] <whileimhere> iceroot: okay
[18:12] <TheJesus> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[18:12] <iceroot> whileimhere: and at your program to autostart but i dont now fluxxbox so dont know how to autostart there something+
[18:13] <TheJesus> whileimhere:  to auto start program once fluxbox start add a line in .fluxbox/startup
[18:13] <nerdy_kid> datz ok if u have any issues find me on ubuntu forums; i use nvidia and have done some extensive tweaking ;)
[18:14] <datz> nerdy_kid, thanks, appreciate it
[18:14] <miranda_> hello, very stupid question, why when i divide 1/C2 in openoffice calc i get a date instead of the value?
[18:14] <nerdy_kid> datz no problem :)
[18:15] <miranda_> hello?
[18:15] <whileimhere> The Jesus Thanks I will try that
[18:15] <wickoo> how can I run an script as root? I think chmod +s must do it but it asks password (sudo password I guess)
[18:15] <hwilde> !sudo
[18:15] <firdau5> hi miranda
[18:16] <TheJesus> miranda_:  Ask in a oppen office dev chan , bit to specific
[18:16] <h32Lg> hi everybody
[18:16] <tavi> hy
[18:16] <tavi> how i can see what's the refresh rate ?
[18:16] <tavi> and how can i chage it?
 i would imagine you should set calc up to do calculus
[18:16] <datz> nerdy_kid, just trying to get my dual monitor setup working, am I heading in the right direction?
[18:16] <whileimhere> is XGM faster then GDM
[18:17] <Aurus> Where does the popularity in the Package Manager come from?  Actual installations?  Is there some sort of "voting" somewhere?
 i don't think it can be done though
[18:17] <grawity> wickoo: You're almost right about chmod +s - but 1) it doesn't work for scripts anymore, only for binary executables, and 2) that executable must request the new privileges using setreuid(), simply having the setuid bit is not enough.
[18:17] <whileimhere> okay going nuts. My system still boots into the command line not the gdm
[18:17] <TheJesus> whileimhere: yes , or just type startx in tty even lighter
 use the calculator in scientific
[18:17] <grawity> Aurus: IIRC, there's a package that reports what you have installed to Them.
[18:17] <firdau5> hi miranda
[18:17] <firdau5> you still there?
[18:17] <grawity> Aurus: popularity-something, don't remember the exact name.
[18:17] <Aurus> grawity: Okay, so it's actual installs.  Thanks! :)
[18:18] <unop> popularity-contest
[18:18] <unop> or popcon as its known
[18:18] <firdau5> miranda, refer this tutorial.. it may help you http://www.tutorialsforopenoffice.org/tutorial/Spreadsheet_Math.html
[18:19] <Aurus> unop: grawity:  Is there anywhere one can see raw data on packages?  ie:  If I'm comparing two similar packages, one is 1 star, the other 4.  I can estimate, but curious if I can see numbers?
[18:19] <grawity> Aurus: http://popcon.ubuntu.com/ seems to be it.
[18:19] <phate> http://eklenet.de/archives/Funktionstasten-des-SL500-unter-Linux-9.html  i can control the sound but can´t control the brightness.
[18:20] <Aurus> grawity: Duh, I found that right after I asked :)
[18:20] <unop> Aurus, hmm, not sure - I would delve into the sourcecode for popcon and start looking there
[18:20] <Rumo> how do i know the RAM size of my computer?
[18:20] <hwilde> Rumo, free
[18:20] <wickoo> grawity: Thanks! But I have a cgi script that executes the useradd command (I don't know if the whole idea is good or not). What should I do now? It can not be binary
 interesting.......can one indeed use calculus in calc?
[18:20] <grawity> wickoo: Find out what user does the script run as. Edit the sudoers file to allow passworless useradd to that user.
[18:20] <Rumo> hwilde: thank you
[18:21] <callnett> ActionParsnip:sorry but is not working
[18:21] <wickoo> grawity: Nice idea! thanks again
[18:21] <firdau5> Rumo,  go to System ---> Administration ---> System Monitor
[18:21] <grawity> wickoo: And for added security, make a wrapper for useradd, to disallow creating users with uid=0 :)
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> callnett: ok lets clarify. Did you run: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   ?
[18:22] <firdau5> cbone, I never heard about that.. heh
[18:22] <cbones> nor i
[18:22] <wickoo> grawity: What does your last message mean? ;)
[18:22] <unop> grawity, then perhaps, a dpkg-divert for the new actual location of useradd? :)
[18:22] <firdau5> :)
[18:23] <grawity> unop: Not necessary, as it's a cgi script calling useradd - and it's enough to modify that one with the new path, IMO.
[18:24] <squeegy> how can i alter sudo's PATH?
[18:24] <grawity> wickoo: Eh, I'm just saying that since your addition to sudoers ( www-data ALL=(root) NOPASSWD: /path/to/adduser ) allows CGI scripts to add new users, someone might found a way of tricking your script into creating a user whose uid equals 0 (and all users with uid=0 have root privileges automatically)
[18:24] <squeegy> seems like it ignores /etc/environment
[18:25] <phate> should i delete the module and try it with the source?
[18:25] <cemc> hi. I have a laptop and a desktop machine with ubuntu 9.04 on both. I installed sensors-applet, and on the laptop it shows CPU and other temperatures. on the desktop it doesn't, only the GPU temp (and hdd). what's wrong?
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> callnett: its a simple question
[18:26] <miranda_> thank you firdau5
[18:26] <cemc> it's not some old machine, it's an intel i7-920 with some gigabyte mobo. do I need to do something to get it to show cpu temps?
[18:26] <firdau5> welcome
[18:26] <callnett> ActionParsnip: i dont know, everithing is hard. Is a simple think and become a complicated hiber tech
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> lm-sensors cemc
[18:26] <llutz>  cemc install lm-sensors
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> callnett: ok run the command, it will open the sources file for you, let me know when it is opened
[18:27] <docmax> hello, is there a document management solution for ubuntu?
[18:27] <v0lksman> anyone know of any good OCR software for linux?
[18:27] <cemc> ActionParsnip, llutz: it's installed
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> !inf xsensors
[18:27] <docmax> !inf ocr
[18:27] <llutz>  cemc configure lm-sensors (sensors-detect)
[18:27] <BlouBlou> try !info
[18:28] <docmax> !info ocr
[18:28] <wickoo> grawity: Nice explanation! and by wrapper you mean I check useradd before call so that no one can pass uid = 0 ? right?
[18:28] <v0lksman> !info ocr
[18:28] <Pici> !msgthebot
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> cemc: then run:  sudo sensors-detect
[18:28] <ActionParsnip>  
[18:28] <ActionParsnip>  
[18:28] <ActionParsnip>  
[18:28] <FloodBot3> ActionParsnip: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:28] <hickop_> Hi , when I maximize my terminal , last line is "blank" , is there a way to remove that line please ?
[18:28] <docmax> i need to print envelopes
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> i really hate firefox
[18:29] <cemc> llutz, ActionParsnip: Sorry, no sensors were detected. (sensors-detect)
[18:29] <Pici> docmax: I've heard good things about glabels
[18:29] <llutz> cemc: hardware too new. better luck next year :)
[18:29] <callnett> ActionParsnip: but how ? wich command?
[18:29] <grawity> wickoo: A little more limiting, maybe. An oneliner like this: exec useradd -m -g users "$1"; <-- that way the wrapper will be bullet-proof against various script kiddies.
[18:29] <docmax> Pici, thanks
[18:29] <grawity> wickoo: Of course, if you write a wrapper, then you need to add that, _not_ useradd itself, to sudoers.
[18:29] <ktwo> hi, any idea why pidgin 2.6.2 does not flash the items on the taskbar (e.g. when i get a new message) it just stays white
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> cemc: http://howto-ubuntu.com/2008/02/14/how-to-monitor-cpu-temperature/
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> callnett: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:30] <firdau5> v0lksman, you can refer to this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OCR
[18:30] <wickoo> grawity: yeah, got it! Thanks alot
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> callnett: add this line to the bottom:      deb http://archive.canonical.com/ jaunty partner
[18:30] <v0lksman> firdau5: thanks!
[18:30] <firdau5> and this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278472
[18:30] <grawity> wickoo: Btw, what exactly is it you're creating?
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> callnett: save the file and close gedit, then in a terminal run: wget -O - http://deb.opera.com/archive.key | sudo apt-key add -
[18:31] <firdau5> you're welcome
[18:31] <callnett> ActionParsnip:really sorry but vhere can i find this?
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> callnett: press alt+f2 and type the first command
[18:31] <grawity> callnett: Accessories --> Terminal
[18:31] <firdau5> I got help from uncle google :D
[18:31] <grawity> ActionParsnip: You do know that sudo won't work from Alt+F2?
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> callnett: actually, copy and paste it, less chance of a mistake
[18:32] <Peregrino> Do anyone know what does this mean on Ship-It?? "You have already received our maximum number of allowed shipments. Please download the CD image and record it yourself."
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> grawity: gksudo will though ;)
[18:32] <grawity> Peregrino: You have requested too many free CDs already.
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> grawity: and we are running gedit so its perfect
[18:32] <cemc> llutz: :) could be
[18:32] <datz> nerdy_kid, still there?
[18:32] <turlando> hello
[18:32] <Peregrino> grawity: But I don't order CDs since 8.04!
[18:33] <wickoo> grawity: I have a samba file server. Users store their files with windows client. It also has a apache server which serves static stored files. I have written some script for managing users on file server. I need to have some sort of web admin. And since I had apache I thought it might be good to use cgi instead of socket programming! But the whole security issue is still ahead ;)
[18:33] <datz> trying to get my dual monitor display working with nvida control panel, doesn't seem to be working..can someone give me a hand?
[18:35] <firdau5> datz, did you tried this one ? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dual-monitors-with-nvidia.html
[18:35] <jdolan> datz: google "nvidia linux twinview"
[18:36] <datz> thanks, taking a look
[18:37] <firdau5> try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[18:37] <callnett> wget -O - http://deb.opera.com/archive.key | sudo apt-key add -
[18:37] <douwe> Hi, I have this problem under the karmic beta, but perhaps someone has encountered it under jaunty.. I have an ethernet connection that works fine when installing packages etc, but for browsing the internet, it will try loading the webpage at first but stop quickly afterwards (download speed drops to >1 kb/s)
[18:38] <datz> thanks firdau5
[18:38] <callnett> i went to accesories- terminal and i paste :wget -O - http://deb.opera.com/archive.key | sudo apt-key add -
[18:38] <firdau5> http://vasir.net/blog/ubuntu/set-up-dual-monitors-with-ubuntu-804/
[18:38] <firdau5> vasir provides easy directions
[18:38] <firdau5> pls take avlook
[18:39] <bazhang> douwe, karmic support in #ubuntu+1
[18:39] <datz> great, have 3 pages, now, so if any fail I can go to next. :)
[18:39] <docmax> Pici, i dont need labels
[18:39] <docmax> its for envelopes
[18:39] <douwe> bazhang: I know, was kindof hoping someone here would have had the same problem once. Sorry to bother you
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> callnett: you still around?
[18:41] <callnett> Action Parsnip:yes, i paste in accessories wget -O - http://deb.opera.com/archive.key | sudo apt-key add -
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> callnett: http://pastebin.com/m268db5ab
[18:41] <whileimhere> I hi again. I do not seem to have any audio after my last reboot. Any ideas?
[18:41] <Moteragent26> Can someone help me, i have problems with the ubuntu 9.10!
[18:41] <Pici> Moteragent26 : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> callnett: i cant make it clearer than that. I gotta go out now but follow that and you cant go wrong
[18:42] <Moteragent26> thanks :)
[18:42] <MrMadMoneyMan> question:  If I install ubuntu 9.10 beta...  will I need to do a dist upgrade to the 9.10 release.... or will normal apt updates bring me inline with the release?
[18:42] <ikonia> MrMadMoneyMan: join #ubuntu+1 for 9.10 support
[18:43] <docmax> hello? i need envelope printing
[18:43] <Berzerker-> MrMadMoneyMan, you'll need to dist-upgrade, but that's no difference  with normal apt updates
[18:43] <cordor_> is there services-admin anymore?
[18:43] <fay27> when will we get final version of ubuntu 9.10
[18:43] <MrMadMoneyMan> 13 days
[18:43] <firdau5> soon :0
[18:44] <ikonia> guys - 9.10 discussion in #ubuntu+1 PLEASE
[18:44] <callnett> ActionParsnip:on terminal i get this message:sorry try again password for callnett
[18:44] <firdau5> u
[18:45] <docmax> need to print enveleopes!
[18:46] <ikonia> docmax: you've said
[18:46] <callnett> i never had something difficult like this
[18:46] <cordor> is there services-admin anymore?
[18:46] <docmax> ikonia, really? oh you are right
[18:46] <pax-> yo, is the "Sound Preferences - Default Mixer Tracks - Device" Where i choose what device i want to use for sound output, I cant get my laptop to use my plugged in headphones instead of the build in speaker
[18:47] <callnett> ActionParsnip:i never had something difficult like this
[18:47] <sedeki> hello, i've installed language support for another language. how do i switch between the keyboard layout i have now, and the other?
[18:47] <wesaala> hi
[18:47] <firdau5> docmax, refer to http://ubuntuliving.blogspot.com/2008/06/printing-envelopes.html
[18:47] <joaopinto> Sedated, Sytem -> Preferences -> Keyboard
[18:47] <joaopinto> ops, was for sedeki
[18:49] <callnett> ActionParsnip:really, sorry but is not for me
[18:49] <docmax> firdau5, thanks
[18:49] <firdau5> welcome
[18:49] <adamkex> does synaptic have gnome dependancies? or only gtk?
[18:49] <joaopinto> adamkex, apt-cache show synaptic
[18:50] <sedeki> joaopinto, thank you!
[18:50] <ph8> hi all, i've just got my netgear W111v3 working with ndiswrapper, it worked out of the box but transfer speeds were all over the place and this was the recommended (ubuntuforums) way to go. The driver is now detected, i can see all the available wireless networks around me, but I can't get a connection to my local WEP network - i've tried it with network manager and with network/interfaces / ifup magic - I can connect to wide open networks it appears - any id
[18:50] <ph8> ea what it might be?
[18:50] <adamkex> joaopinto: i'm not an ubuntu/debian based system at the moment
[18:50] <ph8> sorry for the novel
[18:50] <callnett> ActionParsnip:maybe i can get another version? from somewhere
[18:50] <joaopinto> adamkex, packages.ubuntu.com/synaptic
[18:50] <adamkex> joaopinto: thank you
[18:51] <preecher> when i boot up ubuntu 9.04 on my laptop as soon as it gets to the login screen my screen is very dim and i have to brighten it-can this be turned off so it stays always brightest
[18:52] <xerox1> hi, is there a possibility to use websites as desktop background?
[18:53] <grawity> Wasn't that what Windows once did, and everyone hated?
[18:53] <firdau5> preecher, you can refer to http://beginlinux.wordpress.com/2008/05/07/fixing-the-dim-screen-in-ubuntu-804/
[18:53] <kata> hi
[18:53] <KB1JWQ> !hi | kata
[18:53] <preecher> thx
[18:53] <joaopinto> xerox1, no
[18:54] <josh__> When I look in the Doc and Settings folder of my windows mount, I see nothing, I'm not able to access my Music folder under my name. Any idea how I would go about doing this?
[18:54] <firdau5> hi
[18:54] <iceroot> how to check on CLI if an *.avi is complett and correct?
[18:54] <incidence> Hi, is it possible "Not to lose" own kernel modules when updating the kernel? Cause kernel updates always breaks my wlan+wpa2
[18:55] <xerox1> joaopinto, i think i have seen a program years before that was able to do that...but i have forgotten the name
[18:57] <firdau5> xerox1, I think that's windows 98's active desktop
[18:58] <firdau5> :D
[18:58] <ubsyj> exit
[18:58] <ubsyj> ls
[18:58] <ubsyj> hi
[18:58] <ubsyj> exit
[18:58] <domjohnson> hello
[18:59] <josh__> any idea why I wouldn't be able to access Music from my windows mount?
[18:59] <domjohnson> how do i lower the bandwidth allocation in ubuntu?
[18:59] <ubsyj> hello
[18:59] <BlouBlou> ubsyj: hi, can we help you?
[18:59] <domjohnson> All the other computers on the network run REALLY slowly when this one is connected
[18:59] <ubsyj> 我不会英文
[18:59] <bazhang> ubsyj, #ubuntu-cn for Chinese
[19:00] <ubsyj> 这个我会
[19:00] <ubsyj> yes
[19:00] <bazhang> ubsyj, /join #ubuntu-cn
[19:00] <firdau5> ni hao ma?
[19:01] <firdau5> namaewa firdau5
[19:01] <ubsyj> quit
[19:01] <ubsyj> quit irssi
[19:01] <maco> firdau5: why are you changing languages?
[19:01] <maco> ubsyj:  /quit (use the /)
[19:01] <firdau5> opss..
[19:01] <firdau5> sorry
[19:01] <firdau5> wo shi firdau5
[19:02] <maco> firdau5: ok aside from the mandarin/japanese confusion, english channel ;)
[19:03] <firdau5> actually, I am bored.. thats why I am fooling around
[19:03] <bazhang> firdau5, #ubuntu-offtopic for boredom
[19:04] <pshr_> is proxy setting required sperately for irsssi
[19:04] <pshr_> ?
[19:04] <Gad> hello
[19:04] <pax-> yo, is the "Sound Preferences - Default Mixer Tracks - Device" Where i choose what device i want to use for sound output, I cant get my laptop to use my plugged in headphones instead of the build in speaker
[19:04] <Gad> Do you wanna help me pls :)
[19:04] <bazhang> Gad, please ask
[19:04] <Gad> tnx:)
[19:04] <pshr_> !info irssi
[19:04] <Gad> how I change my Ip adre. on ubuntu
[19:05] <Chryseus> Hi I'm having problems getting a Labtec Webcam to work, it appears to use the Quickcam driver however it refuses to work, I have tried compiling the latest QC driver but I am getting errors.
[19:05] <unknown1x> Why can't I access my Music from my windows mount?
[19:05] <pshr_> Gad are you using gnome or KDE ?
[19:05] <xerox1> Gad, ifconfig?
[19:05] <firdau5> thank bazang
[19:05] <Gad> Gnome :)
[19:05] <P870621345> connect irc.Prison.NET
[19:05] <P870621345> disconnect
[19:06] <pshr_> ok Gad you can find the nm-applet( network management) on the top right part of your screen
[19:06] <pshr_> try right clicking on it and the rest must be obvious
[19:06] <Gad> ok..
[19:06] <firdau5> gad, you're using Network Manager rigth?
[19:07] <ktwo> do you know how i can install firefox 3.5 on ubuntu 9.04 but not the shiretoko
[19:07] <pshr_> ktwo did you try synaptic ?
[19:08] <firdau5> Gad,
[19:08] <Gad> I have a problem :) a have one computer to network cards end 1 computer is on the internet but my second computer is not :)
[19:08] <ktwo> yea if i install it from there it will have shiretoko branding and does not remove 3.0.x firefox neither set it as standard
[19:08] <firdau5> please tell me the detail of your problem
[19:08] <[x]sodium[x]> how to install e17 in xubuntu
[19:08] <firdau5> yah.. tell the details
[19:08] <[x]sodium[x]> i have 8.10 version
[19:09] <[x]sodium[x]> how to install e17 in xubuntu
[19:09] <Gad> moment pls :) end tnx very much :D
[19:09] <[x]sodium[x]> i have 8.10 version
[19:09] <Chryseus> http://www.chryseus.pastebin.com/m361b29c3 anyone see any problems here ?
[19:09] <bazhang> [x]sodium[x], patience
[19:09] <pshr_> well ktwo one solution is you can google for the .deb package of the version your require and install it while uninstalling the rest of the versions from synaptic
[19:09] <ktwo> oh ok yea then ill try this
[19:10] <LaireTM> when i want to copy a file with cp wich have a space in the name, what i have t write in the terminal?
[19:11] <joeb3_> LaireTM,  \ <space>
[19:11] <LaireTM> ok thx
[19:11] <amgarchIn9> or in quotes
[19:11] <genii> LaireTM: When you hit the last letter before the space, hit Tab and it will do the escape slash for you
[19:11] <[x]sodium[x]> :|
[19:11] <Chryseus> LaireTM, like this: my\ file\ name
[19:12] <LaireTM> thx @all
[19:13] <pshr_> could any one address to Gad`s problem
[19:13] <whileimhere1> hi.
[19:13] <pshr_> configuring IP addresses when two network cards are installed in the computer
[19:14] <whileimhere1> I seem to have no audio now on this machine. Can anyone assit me? I have no clue what is wrong
[19:15] <tonii> whileimhere1: try disabling pulse audio
[19:15] <whileimhere1> tonii I have it removed.
[19:15] <whileimhere1> tonii it makes horrible noise when playing a game on here
[19:15] <tonii> ah, then I have no furthure help to offer. sorry :)
[19:16] <LaireTM> I'm working at a cronjob wich copy every 12 hours files from one folder to another, but not all sub folder. in the moment i work with cp,  is it possible to exclude folder in the cp command?
[19:17] <ascott_dt> part #ubuntu
[19:17] <maco> LaireTM: cp dir/* without using -R?
[19:17] <maco> LaireTM: instead of cp -R dir/
[19:17] <grawity> LaireTM: I think it would be better to use rsync for that - it's more suited for doing things like backup copies.
[19:17] <tonii> can't copy dirs without -r, no?
[19:17] <preecher> is there a way to list programs that only open in a terminal to the apps menu and when u click on the program it automatically opens a terminal window
[19:17] <Gad> I have..2 network cards instalid on one compute. Can I conect other computer on internet  trough to f
[19:17] <maco> tonii: hence the *
[19:17] <Gad> I have..2 network cards instalid on one compute. Can I conect other computer on internet  trough frist
[19:18] <maco> tonii: he doesnt want the dirs under it
[19:18] <tonii> maco: ah
[19:18] <maco> LaireTM: but grawity's right that rsync is better
[19:18] <grawity> rsync /path/to/source /path/to/destination --recursive --progress --exclude="dont-copy-this"
[19:18] <space_cadet> question:  Can i use a usb distro of linux on a ps3?
[19:18] <maco> space_cadet: if its a powerpc version, sure
[19:18] <grawity> Oh, forgot --delete.
[19:18] <maco> space_cadet: er, theoretically. assuming they can boot from usb...hrm..
[19:19] <space_cadet> do you think it could?
[19:19] <firdau5> whileimhere, identify your sound card model first.. than ask uncle google
[19:19] <H4ck3rz> sup
[19:19] <system404> space_cadet: the ps3 can boot from usb weither it can boot linux from usb im unsure
[19:19] <corey> so what new thing u got to teach me today?
[19:20] <maco> system404: it can boot linux...and it can boot from usb.... meh, sounds like itll work, space_cadet
[19:21] <system404> maco: i know it can boot linux from disc and i know it can boot from usb just sayin ive never tried booting linux from usb on it
[19:21] <space_cadet> Do i have to format the drive to install another os on the ps3?
[19:21] <system404> space_cadet: no ps3 makes it easy to install linux
[19:21] <system404> side by side
[19:22] <pshr_> !info gmail
[19:22] <system404> space_cadet: no hacks no funny business it simply works
[19:22] <pshr_> !mail
[19:22] <system404> space_cadet: and with what ive seen on my friends machine works well
[19:22] <system404> however make sure u got wireless kb and mouse for it
[19:25] <octodur> is there an official 9.10 forum where we can discuss the success ? =)
[19:25] <bazhang> octodur, #ubuntu+1
[19:25] <octodur> thx
[19:26] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:27] <ph8> hey all, i've accidentally deleted ndiswrapper.ko - is there a way i can reinstall linux-headers-`uname -r` without removing it first?
[19:27] <firdau5> hi
[19:27] <sebsebseb> firdau5: hi
[19:28] <firdau5> ph8, sorry.. dont know
[19:28] <ph8> well..... thanks for trying..
[19:28] <Raydiation> why does launchpad use bazaar instead of git?
[19:29] <rabareno> !ops
[19:29] <rabareno> !ot
[19:29] <rabareno> !list
[19:29] <IdleOne> !botabuse > rabareno
[19:29] <bazhang> rabareno, why did you do that
[19:29] <rabareno> !help
[19:29] <rabareno> !suck
[19:31] <a__> !help
[19:32] <a__> !commands
[19:32] <enatom> my menu brightness controller isnt working on my dell laptop
[19:32] <cordor> hello. How do i disable a service from auto start?
[19:32] <sebsebseb> !fishing |  a__
[19:32] <talldave> how di i change permissions on mounted usb hard drive? apparently i cannot write to it because i do not have permission to create folders in the destination
[19:33] <jess^> taildave: are you the only one using the box?
[19:33] <talldave> i have used it before, the only thing i have changed is adding another user account
[19:33] <jess^> talldave: i'm really lazy; if it's my box and ONLY my box, i chown the mount points to my user :)
[19:33] <howieson29> 1 question i have ubuntu install over windows and yet when i install a programm my seagate is full?
[19:33] <howieson29> what can i do?
[19:33] <talldave> jess: how do i do that?
[19:33] <booting_kernel> :))))
[19:33] <ikonia> howieson29: I suspect your disk is full
[19:33] <ikonia> booting_kernel: don't start
[19:34] <sebsebseb> howieson29: Ubuntu install over Windows???
[19:34] <ikonia> wubi
[19:34] <genii> The problem with chowning a mountpoint when the mountpoint is the root of another drive, is that udev resets all that to belong to root every boot anyhow
[19:34] <pshr_> !elaborate | sebsebseb
[19:34] <BullHornL> is there a Nokia PC Suite alternative for linux? i use my nokia as a gprs/umts modem
[19:34] <ikonia> genii: it shouldn't do
[19:34] <howieson29> yes as neighbout
[19:34] <howieson29> r
[19:34] <ikonia> genii: udev should only change device files,
[19:34] <peleg> Hello. I have installed korganizer on gnome, and now I can't enter the "date&time" settings of K, in order to make the week start at sunday. Any ideas?
[19:34] <pshr_> sorry sebsebseb ;)
[19:35] <webbb82> wheelz, whats up
[19:35] <system404> any such thing as an equaliser in amarok
[19:35] <murder_> hi
[19:35] <wheelz> not much totally new to all this lol
[19:35] <a__> sebsebseb: whats that mean?
[19:35] <webbb82> when you want to talk to someone start to type there name and hit the tab key and it will auto complete
[19:36] <sebsebseb> a__: Your only really meant to use the bot in the channel when  replying to someone's issue
[19:36] <a__> sebsebseb: ok\
[19:36] <webbb82> wheelz, so what els did you need help with
[19:36] <sebsebseb> a__:  You can go into pm or ubuntu bots  to  find out what factoids are and such
[19:36] <genii> ikonia: If you have /dev/sdb1 mounted to /media/sdb   and chown yadda:yadda /media/sdb   next boot it usually reverts the root of the drive
[19:36] <wheelz> at the moment nothing yet I am sure I will come across something though
[19:36] <sebsebseb> a__: actsaully there's a page
[19:36] <sebsebseb> !bot |  a__
[19:36] <system404> any such thing as an equaliser in amarok
[19:37] <cordor> hum, what is name of application of the System->Administration->Services?
[19:37] <system404> or just a general equaliser
[19:37] <ikonia> genii: that shouldn't happen, as that permission if on the file system, you should only have a problem if you chown /dev/sdb1
[19:37] <webbb82> wheelz, its hard to find what you said if you dont put my name in
[19:37] <ikonia> genii: udev onlt controls device files
[19:37] <webbb82> start the name and hit tab
[19:37] <webbb82> so web tab
[19:37] <IdleOne> How do I update virus defenitions on clamtk?
[19:38] <wheelz> webbb82, nothing at the moment I am sure I will come across something though
[19:38] <peleg> I go to Settings -> Configure Date & Time, and nothing happens
[19:38] <octodur> is calmAV the right program to chose if i want to scan a ntfs (winvista) for virues and conflicker virus ?
[19:38] <jess^> sorry
[19:38] <webbb82> wheelz, cool ill im you some good links to get you started
[19:38] <wheelz> ok
[19:38] <wheelz> webbb82, ok
[19:38] <sebsebseb> a__: Someone got kicked for playing with the bot in the channel, just before you joined
[19:38] <jess^> i've been up for 27 hours straight
[19:39] <jess^> playing with the bot?
[19:39] <a__> sebsebseb: thats ok. my issue is pretty weird and unusual. I can't seem to change the ownership of my external hard drive. I've tried chown and it "changes" the ownership, but when I check the ownership, its the old user name instead of the new one.
[19:39] <jess^> ubottu:  would you like to play a nice game of chess?
[19:39] <ikonia> bazhang: /csop
[19:39] <cordor> help, i update-rc.d -f foo remove, but it keeps comming back. how do i prevent a service from autostart?
[19:39] <ikonia> oops
[19:39] <sebsebseb> jess^: Flooding the channel  with it, when they had no valid reason
[19:40] <system404> ane equaliser for ubuntu jaunty
[19:40] <a__> sebsebseb: can you help me with this issue?
[19:41] <sebsebseb> a__: What issue, I haven't seen one from you, since joining here a little while ago
[19:41] <a__> sebsebseb: thats ok. my issue is pretty weird and unusual. I can't seem to change the ownership of my external hard drive. I've tried chown and it "changes" the ownership, but when I check the ownership, its the old user name instead of the new one.
[19:41] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[19:41] <sebsebseb> a__: ah yes file permissions
[19:42] <dios_mio> i have firefox 30.14, but in the firefox website i see the latest is 3.5 something... should i upgrade?
[19:42] <system404> sebsebseb: do you know of any equaliser plugins for amarok or of any equaliser apps in general
[19:42] <dios_mio> i mean i have firefox 3.0.14
[19:42] <dios_mio> !firefox
[19:42] <BlouBlou> dios_mio: no, just wait few weeks and it will upgrade with ubuntu 9.10
[19:42] <dios_mio> !firefox-3.5
[19:42] <sebsebseb> a__: maybe, not useful, but
[19:42] <a__> I've been trying to fix this problem for a week. and I can't find any info online addressing it
[19:42] <sebsebseb> !permissions |  a__
[19:42]  * linkinus is not currently running iTunes.
[19:42] <TheJesus> a__: You used the recursive -R ?
[19:42] <dios_mio> BlouBlou: yes good idea :)
[19:43] <BlouBlou> dios_mio: ;)
[19:43] <came0> when I export java="/path" what file does that ammend to?
[19:43] <came0> or what file does the export command ammend to
[19:43] <a__> TheJesus: I'm not trying to change permisions. I'm trying to change ownership
[19:43] <came0> i guess is a better way of putting it
[19:44] <peleg> Anybody? I can't make korganizer start from Sunday. Do you have any idea??
[19:44] <system404> peleg: the working week starts on a monday atll be why
[19:44] <peleg> "atll be why"?
[19:44] <sebsebseb> system404: I think that's a feature of most players?
[19:45] <pooka> came0: It doesn't change any file. What you're doing is changing the environment of your shell - the set of variables in the shell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_variable
[19:45] <system404> sebsebseb: i cant find it in amarok
[19:45] <TheJesus> a__: so chown -R user:user /File , guess you tried that
[19:45] <cordor> dios_mio: ubuntuzilla, update to 9.10 won't solve the problem seems ubuntu upgrade every 1/2 year while firefox has new release every month
[19:45] <sebsebseb> system404: It's there in Banshee for example
[19:46] <came0> pooka:  thanks1
[19:46] <a__> TheJesus: I used chown user:user hR /file
[19:46] <Mikel> good afternoon
[19:46] <sebsebseb> system404: I never really understood what the big deal is with Amarok and I have used  Desktop GNU/Linux since 2004
[19:46] <cordor> help, i update-rc.d -f foo remove, but foo keeps comming back. how do i prevent a service from autostart?
[19:46] <system404> sebsebseb: my pc connected to my tv which is connected to my surround sound system which has awsome base but amarok seems to have poor base on my music so needs equaliser to tweak it a little guns n roses so much better with base lmao is there any all round apps
[19:46] <firdau5> good evening
[19:47] <Mikel> i was wondering how you get a "tar.bz2" file to installsomething in the package manager...
[19:47] <system404> sebsebseb: amarok is awsome
[19:47] <system404> sebsebseb: also it looks amazing
[19:47] <sebsebseb> system404: Exaile is  like Amarok also, but for Gnome and that
[19:47] <system404> sebsebseb: apart from the whole equaliser thing
[19:47] <system404> sebsebseb: amarok is gnome
[19:48] <sebsebseb> system404: No Amarok is a KDE app, that can also be run inside Gnome
[19:48] <Mikel> I'm trying to find an eay way to install "programs" that are tar.bz2 files... but got no answers in Ubuntu forums that assisted me
[19:48] <bazhang> Mikel, which program
[19:48] <TheJesus> a__: odd should work =/ can't help anymore, just a gerneal linux mystery
[19:48] <system404> sebsebseb: aww i see well i use it in gnome lol so do you know of any ways for me to fiddle with my settings to up the base
[19:48] <grawity> Mikel: .tar.bz2 usually contains compressed source code. You'll have to open Terminal, unpack the file (tar xf foo.tar.bz2), read the file named "README"
[19:48] <Mikel> well, the example i gave was Cinelerra, but there are others
[19:49] <sebsebseb> system404: no, but if you try alternatives :)  Banshee, Exaile, etc,  I expect you can get the feature that you want
[19:49] <system404> sebsebseb:  true but i love amarok sooo much really not wanting to leave it behind but i guess your right needs must and that
[19:49] <sebsebseb> system404: Also since Amarok is really a KDE app, and probably most people in here don't use it,  maybe you should ask in #kubuntu
[19:49] <Mikel> i am not sure that if I am looking for a program on sourceforge... but it's not in the package manager already... how to get it installed
[19:50] <sebsebseb> !love > system404
[19:50] <talldave> I cannot write to external usb drive i do not have permission. All that has changed on my system is that i have added a new user. I have tried creating a user group and chown the mount piont, but no joy, please help
[19:50] <system404> sebsebseb: cool ill try kubuntu then if no joy try alternative apps cheers seb
[19:50] <joseantoniordlmc> WhoIs TheJesus
[19:50] <sebsebseb> system404: yes the channel, not the actsaul Kubuntu software
[19:50] <dementor> hy all ,how can y enable voice/video in pidgin?
[19:50] <sebsebseb> system404: that's a good way to do things, run a few KDE apps in Gnome,  I do that :)
[19:50] <cordor> talldave: was it automount?
[19:50] <system404> sebsebseb:  i know lol
[19:50] <module000> talldave: can't write or can't mount? if you can't write, make sure you are a UID that coincides with the permissions on your drive
[19:50]  * TheJesus he is amazing
[19:50] <jrib> talldave: what filesystem?
[19:51] <chess_player> hello
[19:51] <sebsebseb> system404: np gl
[19:51] <pooka> Mikel: .tar.bz2 means a bzip2-compressed 'tar' archive. You can extract the contents using something like tar --bzip2 -xf myfile.tar.bz2 (have a look at the tar manpage using 'man tar'). It's probably source code; if so, there'll probably be a README or INSTALL file (or both) that describe what you might want to do next.
[19:52] <Mikel> " Mikel: .tar.bz2 usually contains compressed source code. You'll have to open Terminal, unpack the file (tar xf foo.tar.bz2), read the file named "README"" That's what I tried to get those on "ubuntu forums" to do... but theyclosed the forum l forum thread
[19:52] <joseantoniordlmc> karmic
[19:52] <sebsebseb> !karmic |  joseantoniordlmc
[19:52] <joseantoniordlmc> racists
[19:52] <Mikel> the "read me" only said to  do "./cinlerra" in this directory"
[19:53] <bazhang> joseantoniordlmc, that is not appropriate for here
[19:53] <talldave> I can mount it and read it, but i cant write to it, its only changed since i added a new user account
[19:53] <giangio> !karmic
[19:54] <kaeser> I am looking for a monochromatic(black and white) laser printer. Where I can look for it to be compatible with gnu/linux?>
[19:54] <Mikel> anyone know how I can get a way to install those Bz2files?
[19:54] <grawity> Mikel: Well, do what "README" said.
[19:55] <Mikel> well, i did.
[19:55] <Mikel> didn't install
[19:55] <IdleOne> !compile | Mikel
[19:55] <Mikel> i had someone on ubuntu forums give me an addy to get the repoz addy
[19:55] <Zzeiss> kaeser: look in http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Printing-HOWTO/printers.html
[19:56] <grawity> Mikel: Also, explain what do you mean by "addy" and "repoz".
[19:56] <talldave> module000: I can mount and read, its only been a problem since i added a new user account
[19:56] <Mikel> repoz... short for repository
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[19:56] <bazhang> http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#jaunty Mikel
[19:56] <Mikel> addy... short for the address to get the repository listing installer
[19:57] <bazhang> Mikel, that is a deb
[19:57] <talldave> jrib: its an ext3 file system
[19:57] <Mikel> my problem is that if I use a program from sourcforge, on ubuntu... it may not install, since they put quite a few "bz2 files there
[19:58] <bazhang> Mikel, I just gave you a link on how to install cinelerra from a .deb
[19:58] <Mikel> needless to say, I have cinlerra. but need advice on trying to get other bz2 files to install
[19:58] <bazhang> Mikel, such as?
[19:58] <Mikel> at one point, VLC, the linux version... SAM3 broadcaster, etc.
[19:58] <Zzeiss> Mikel: ahhh... you may need to install bunzip2.  (and yes, I hate that too.  I personally won't put up anything other than a .gz and I rag on other project members who like .bz and bz2)
[19:58] <IdleOne> Mikel: you don't install bz2 files. you compile the source code that is contained in the bz2. please follow the link ubottu gave you about compiling
[19:59] <bazhang> Mikel, vlc is in the ubuntu repos
[19:59] <IdleOne> Mikel: btw sam3 does not work on linux
[19:59] <Mikel> yes, it is now
[19:59] <bazhang> Mikel, any others
[19:59] <Mikel> but when i first got converted a few years ago, it was not, that i was aware of... and used it in windows
[19:59] <mlissner> Hi, I can't get banshee to play m4a files. I have gstreamer-bad-multiverse installed, but still nothing. Any thoughts?
[20:00] <jess^> mlissner: is alsamixer muted? ;)
[20:00] <bazhang> Mikel, any others now
[20:00] <Mikel> thank god i didn't use it in linux
[20:00] <mlissner> jess^: Ummm...no, banshee is throwing an error. Good theory though.
[20:00] <Mikel> i still have 1/2 windows and 1/2 ubuntu
[20:00] <jess^> mlissner: it's always worked for me. ;) what error?
[20:01] <Mikel> can't think of the others, off hand... but do have another general question
[20:01] <mlissner> jess^: It puts a big gray X next to the song, and says there's no codec. It tries searching for a codec, but naturally, it fails.
[20:01] <jess^> hm
[20:01] <Mikel> on one of my programs in windows... i notice the "speed" of scrolling is much faster in windows, than in ubuntu 9.04... why?
[20:01] <IdleOne> !w32codecs
[20:02] <bazhang> Mikel, which program
[20:02] <jess^> mlissner: after you installed the package, did ldconfig run?
[20:02] <Mikel> how different is that from the ubuntu that is for a/v writing?
[20:02] <mlissner> jess^: ldcon-what?
[20:02] <Mikel> Adobe audition
[20:02] <jess^> mlissner: as root, run 'ldconfig' and then restart banshee and see if the damn thing works
[20:02] <bazhang> Mikel, dont think adobe has a linux version of that
[20:03] <Mikel> i use it in linux... all the time
[20:03] <jess^> god i'm tired.
[20:03] <Mikel> i just cannot see all of the buttons
[20:03] <IdleOne> jess^: go take a nap :)
[20:03] <bazhang> Mikel, via wine?
[20:03] <Mikel> yes
[20:03] <jess^> IdleOne: i'm at work for another...two hours?
[20:03] <jess^> IdleOne: i have not slept since 10/15/09 10:00am. i'm being kept animate by monster and no-doz.
[20:03] <bazhang> check the appdb Mikel help in #winehq
[20:04] <mlissner> jess^: No dice. Same errors.
[20:04] <Mikel> was done... since i was one of thier testers
[20:04] <jess^> hm
[20:04] <IdleOne> mlissner: http://www.medibuntu.org and install w32codecs
[20:04] <Mikel> i said 1.5 works... 2.0 did not
[20:04] <j0nr> hey all...fresh install of jaunty and i have no ethernet...I can't remember how to fix that :/
[20:04] <bazhang> Mikel, that has nothing to do with ubuntu
[20:04] <arvind_khadri> hi, i have an issue here, what happens is that i receive mail only when mail is being CC'ed to a different inbox.like the mail is not being delivered to evolution, until its cc'ed.
[20:04] <jess^> mlissner: hm. thinking.
[20:04] <bazhang> j0nr, ifconfig has eth0 ?
[20:05] <Mikel> i don't understand... i use it in ubuntu... but it has nothing to do with ubuntu?
[20:05] <j0nr> bazhang: no, just lo
[20:05] <jess^> mlissner: stupid question: these m4a files aren't protected are they?
[20:05] <grawity> jess^: They'd have the .m4p extension, then.
[20:05] <mlissner> jess^: Nah - I thought of that too. I made them myself (foolishly)
[20:05] <bazhang> J0nr what does lspci show as the device name
[20:05] <Mikel> i was thinking that somehow, ubuntu might have been slowed by wine?
[20:06] <jess^> grawity: right you are. again, sleep dep
[20:06] <jess^> lol
[20:06] <IdleOne> Mikel: if you are using a program with wine then ubuntu has nothing to do with it
[20:06] <IdleOne> Mikel: #winehq will hopefully be more help.
[20:06] <Mikel> ok, so the 2 are paralell programs, totally independant of each other.
[20:07] <kernel_panic> y0
[20:07] <j0nr> bazhang: i cant see a network device in lspci other than the wireless one i think
[20:07] <bazhang> j0nr, please paste.ubuntu.com with the output of lspci
[20:08] <j0nr> hmm, not easy as the pc has not network connection bazhang
[20:08] <toefur> how do i find my sound devices?
[20:08] <unknown1x> ouch
[20:08] <firdau5> toe
[20:09] <firdau5> toefur, whats your problem?
[20:09] <toefur> im trying to get my sound to work in mplayer
[20:09] <mgmuscari1> this is driving me crazy - if i paste something as a floating layer in gimp, how do i move back to the layer underneath to work on that?
[20:09] <bazhang> j0nr, right, what about ethernet devices then (just a single line here)
[20:10] <j0nr> bazhang: no mention of ethernet devices in lspci
[20:10] <mgmuscari1> in photoshop one would just click on the desired layer... no dice here, unless i anchor the layer, but that seems to merge it
[20:10] <Lockerz_Invites> someone wants an invite for www.lockerz.com ?
[20:10] <bazhang> Lockerz_Invites, wrong channel please stop
[20:10] <trism> mgmuscari1: you need to convert the floating layer to a real layer, then you can merge it
[20:10] <genii> Lockerz_Invites: No ads here
[20:10] <trism> mgmuscari1: right click on the layer and do new layer
[20:10] <unknown1x> Is any one here familiar with Wubi Installations?
[20:11] <Mikel> for a second... i thought i was back in the old "yahoo" chats... with the spammers
[20:11] <firdau5> toefur, System --> Prefrences ---> Sound
[20:11] <unknown1x> lol
[20:11] <mgmuscari1> trism: thanks
[20:11] <sebsebseb> unknown1x: Probably a good idea to avoide Wubi really, because sometimes  it goes rather wrong on people,  also in the long run a partitioned install is better
[20:11] <bazhang> unknown1x, best to just ask your question
[20:11] <firdau5> dont forget to do sound test
[20:12] <noid16857> ÂÛ ÂÑÅ ÏÈÄÀÐÀÑÛ
[20:12] <mlissner> jess^, IdleOne: I'm trying out the w32codecs...will have an update soon.
[20:12] <genii> !en | noid16857
[20:12] <noid16857> ÏÈÇÄÈ ÏÈÄÎÐÎÂ
[20:12] <aiOn> Have a pretty stupid question...if I have a AP setup, can I have it DHCP a different gateway (same gateway that the AP uses for connectivity)?
[20:12] <unknown1x> dang. ok. Well I'm simply trying to access my Music folder, but it refuses to show up when I browse through /host/Documents and Settings/  . No users show up at all in fact.
[20:12] <bazhang> noid16857, #ubuntu-ru
[20:12] <noid16857> » genii » ØÎË ÍÀÕÓÉ
[20:13] <bazhang> noid16857, english here, also utf8 please
[20:13] <resno> \whois noid16857
[20:13] <mlissner> jess^, IdleOne: Nope. w32codecs didn't help either.
[20:13] <system404> sebsebseb: u here
[20:14] <firdau5> !whois
[20:14] <sebsebseb> system404: yes
[20:14] <system404> sebsebseb: how to open xorg.conf for editing under sudo via terminal mate
[20:14] <j0nr> bazhang: should i try adding:
[20:14] <j0nr> auto eth0
[20:14] <j0nr> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[20:14] <j0nr> to /etc/network/interfaces
[20:14] <bazhang> j0nr, sure
[20:14] <genii> noid16857: Английская язык здесь. Для русского языка /join #ubuntu-ru
[20:14] <Mikel> i thought that was an old IRC command, for a profile or info on the person
[20:14] <talldave> I am still struggling with permissions on external usb hard drive
[20:14] <noid16857> » bazhang » go on penis
[20:15] <bazhang> noid16857, that is not appropriate for here please stop
[20:15] <sebsebseb> system404: better off asking the whole channel,  fortunatly  I haven't had much of a need to mess around with xorg config :) since having well supported Nivida graphics cards :)
[20:15] <unknown1x> dang. ok. Well I'm simply trying to access my Music folder, but it refuses to show up when I browse through /host/Documents and Settings/  . No users show up at all in fact.
[20:15] <The1Joebob> Should there be only two ops for a 1500-user channel?
[20:15] <system404> ok channel how to open xorg.conf via terminal for editing
[20:15] <noid16857> » bazhang » boat stupid
[20:15] <IdleOne> The1Joebob: there are more then 2 ops
[20:16] <genii> noid16857: Никакое домогательство не позволило
[20:16] <sebsebseb> system404: come to think of it have I actsauly ever been in that file trying to edit stuff,
[20:16] <trism> system404: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:16] <powertool08> Does anyone know if partition mounting has changed recently? I updated and it broke mpd with permission denied errors. I haven't changed any file permissions so it had to be the update, and auto-mounting is the only thing I can think of which would mess with permissions...
[20:16] <system404> trism: thanks
[20:17] <IdleOne> The1Joebob: they just don't wear the @ but they are here
[20:17] <flanders> I cannot get Autofs to work under Ubuntu, but it works fine under openSUSE. I have the same packages installed, using the same exact configuration. Is there something extra required to get Autofs working under Ubuntu?
[20:17] <The1Joebob> Why don't they wear the @?
[20:17] <IdleOne> The1Joebob: no need
[20:17] <j0nr> bazhang: hmm no good
[20:17] <jack87> hi all
[20:17] <j0nr> its as if it just doesnt see the hardware
[20:17] <jack87> i am having trouble mounting usb printer to my virtual box winxp
[20:17] <bazhang> j0nr, is this a dual boot
[20:18] <Len_> Only root can change group?
[20:18] <j0nr> nope, fresh install using whole disk bazhang
[20:18] <jack87> it is all grayed out for devices i have added the usb filters to the list
[20:18] <flanders> Len_: You mean for a folder/file permission?
[20:18] <j0nr> bazhang: it worked before i reinstalled, asnd i have reinstalled many times
[20:18] <bazhang> j0nr, very strange; does a new user or the live cd get the ethernet
[20:18] <unknown1x> dang. ok. Well I'm simply trying to access my Music folder, but it refuses to show up when I browse through /host/Documents and Settings/  . No users show up at all in fact.
[20:19] <jack87> anyone else know how to mount usb devices to virtual box guest os
[20:19] <Len_> flanders: chang group of folder, no permision
[20:19] <bazhang> jack87, which version of virtualbox
[20:19] <flanders> Len_: I don't understand. What do you mean "change group"?
[20:19] <jack87> bazhang: 3.0 closed source
[20:20] <haroelcabo> hi ! What does "[sda]  Add. Sense: Unrecovered read error" mead ?
[20:20] <j0nr> bazhang: ill try a live cd
[20:20] <jack87> bazhang: 3.0.8 closed source to be exact
[20:20] <flanders> So does anyone know how to get Autofs to work in Ubuntu? (It works fine for me in openSUSE.)
[20:20] <bazhang> jack87, you may also wish to post a question in #vbox while you wait for an answer here
[20:21] <Len_> flanders: chgrp. When you say permission I think of chmod
[20:21] <haroelcabo> s/mead/mean/
[20:21] <ortsvorsteher> !autofs | flanders
[20:21] <flanders> Len_: That's what I meant. Whoever is the owner of the file/folder can chgrp.
[20:21] <toefur> ugh is there a good x264 driver that is free and that utilizies both cpu cores?
[20:21] <jack87> good call thanks bazhang
[20:21] <flanders> ortsvorsteher: I've already tried there, but no luck.
[20:22] <chx> how can i manually trigger automount? the device was attached at boot time and i just want to mount now w
[20:22] <bazhang> jack87, I would make sure you have the guest additions and kernel headers installed as well
[20:22] <toefur> i got the sound to work... but supposedly my comp isnt powerful enough to watch movies
[20:22] <ortsvorsteher> flanders:  i didn't use id, so i have no experience... only that link :(
[20:22] <flanders> ortsvorsteher: no problem, but thanks.
[20:22] <ortsvorsteher> :)
[20:23] <jack87> bazhang: i do have guest edition installed as for kernel headers how would i install thenm
[20:23] <flanders> ortsvorsteher: It's strange because it works on openSUSE, without requiring anything special.
[20:23] <Len_> flanders: strange. I got a folder here with my user as owner/group and i cant change its grp
[20:23] <ortsvorsteher> flanders: did you read the man page? is there any?
[20:23] <flanders> ortsvorsteher: But on both of my Ubuntu computers, it does not work. Manually mounting CIFS works fine, but not with Autofs (automatically.)
[20:23] <Len_> flanders: 755 chmod
[20:23] <flanders> ortsvorsteher: Yes, but it does not tell me anything I didn't try.
[20:24] <ortsvorsteher> flanders: strange...
[20:24] <flanders> Len_: You are the owner and typing "chgrp GROUPNAME FOLDERNAME" doesn't work?
[20:25] <ortsvorsteher> flanders: you use it to automount your usb drives?
[20:26] <flanders> ortsvorsteher: No, to mount a CIFS network share.
[20:26] <Len_> flanders: yes, i'd take u a shot but I dont know to do that on terminal only linux
[20:26] <ortsvorsteher> flanders, ah, okay...
[20:26] <flanders> ortsvorsteher: If I use the fstab, I can connect to the CIFS share, no problems. But I want to use autofs (for a few reasons), but on Ubuntu it just doesn't work / do anything.
[20:27] <flanders> Len_: what do you mean?
[20:27] <ortsvorsteher> flanders: i only found something about autofs and ubuntu for usb drives
[20:27] <flanders> ortsvorsteher: Link me? It might have something in it.
[20:27] <ortsvorsteher> flanders: you can read and understand german?
[20:27] <Len_> flanders: the linux I am trying to change permission dont have GUI, only shell
[20:28] <flanders> Len_: The command would be: chgrp GROUPNAME FOLDERNAME
[20:28] <flanders> Len_: For example: chgrp admin backups
[20:28] <d33d> Question: I need to setup Ubuntu Server 9.04 so I can run a localhost web server as a kind of sandbox for web apps and projects, what do I need to do to allow everyone to access the webserver behind the Virtualbox NAT...?
[20:29] <flanders> Len_: Or: chgrp admin /mnt/backups
[20:29] <The1Joebob> you can also use chown :group Target
[20:29] <ortsvorsteher> flanders: may you have an translator http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/USB-Datenträger_automatisch_einbinden
[20:29] <Len_> flanders: I got what the erro is, the grp Im trying to change Im not part of it
[20:29] <flanders> ortsvorsteher: Nope, only english, sorry.
[20:29] <flanders> Len_: Then try: sudo chgrp GROUPNAME FOLDERNAME
[20:29] <d33d> everyone (local) i don't need this outside.
[20:30] <Len_> flanders: and that's the point of my question :) as root (with sudo) it works
[20:30] <flanders> ortsvorsteher: Looking at the configuration they use, it's the same thing I am doing.
[20:31] <flanders> Len_: Oh, okay. I thought you weren't able to change the group, even as the file owner. But I never knew you mean a group that you are not in.
[20:31] <ortsvorsteher> flanders: here in english https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs
[20:31] <powertool08> d33d: If you use a bridged adapter in the network settings then the virtual host will grab an ip from the dhcp server an not be natted behind your physical box.
[20:31] <flanders> ortsvorsteher: Same thing. I am already doing what is described in there.
[20:31] <axisys> when I right click my network icon it shows 'Enable Wireless' but it is disabled.. how do I enable it? I have Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN in my laptop
[20:31] <jess^> this customer is annoying; they don't believe i'm a girl.
[20:32] <flanders> ortsvorsteher: I must be overlooking something.
[20:32] <Len_> flanders: I just find out making some test now. Thx for help
[20:32] <d33d> powertool08, oh duh. I should have thought of that! thanks
[20:32] <j0nr> bazhang: live cd #1 > fail. old jaunty beta tho. trying another
[20:32] <powertool08> d33d: np :)
[20:32] <ortsvorsteher> flanders: may you try again from first step and check what you have done... have fun, i eat now and comeback later
[20:32] <j0nr> at what point in live boot up would th router light up the ethernet to show it is working?
[20:32] <unknown1x> dang. ok. Well I'm simply trying to access my Music folder, but it refuses to show up when I browse through /host/Documents and Settings/  . No users show up at all in fact.
[20:33] <j0nr> bazhang: second live cd, fail... no ethernet...its as if the hardware has died
[20:33] <flanders> ortsvorsteher: No problem, and take care!
[20:33] <j0nr> i did just change the HDD
[20:33] <ortsvorsteher> :)
[20:33] <flanders> unknown1x: Documents and Settings? Windows XP?
[20:33] <unknown1x> yes
[20:33] <janhouse> "Ubuntu 'Just works'"
[20:33] <janhouse> Bullshit
[20:33] <janhouse> Installation simply closes... :\
[20:33] <bazhang> janhouse, please watch the language
[20:33] <janhouse> sorry
[20:34] <j0nr> might need to manually put wireless driver on it
[20:34] <bazhang> j0nr, that is exceedingly odd
[20:34] <j0nr> bazhang: :(
[20:34] <flanders> unknown1x: Over the network?
[20:34] <janhouse> I am using Ubuntu on 2 pc's but today I got PC that doesn't like Ubuntu
[20:34] <unknown1x> flanders: I'm trying Access my Music folder in My Documents from a Wubi Installation. But nothing shows up in the Documents and Settings folder.
[20:34] <bazhang> janhouse, is the md5 sum on iso okay
[20:34] <janhouse> some old pentium 4 box. I started installation from live cd and it closes
[20:34] <jess^> janhouse: ubuntu just works for geeks. if you want 'just works' buy a mac :D
[20:35] <janhouse> bazhang, the cd is OK!
[20:35] <janhouse> I can run it from live cd
[20:35] <j0nr> what would i need to put on a memory stick to put on the laptop to make the wireless work?
[20:35] <flanders> unknown1x: Sorry, I've neve used a Wubi installation. Only a complete installation on a separate partition. Did you mount the NTFS partition with ntfs-3g?
[20:35] <sebsebseb> janhouse:  jess^   Ubuntu  works rather well indeed on the correct hardware
[20:35] <bazhang> janhouse, then try some bootoptions, or alternately the alternate cd
[20:35] <janhouse> but when I start instllation it closes after I finish that install wizard
[20:36] <axisys> http://pastebin.com/de81372a, i don't see any kill switch on this hp6730b laptop
[20:36] <bazhang> !bootoptions > janhouse
[20:36] <callnett> i need your help
[20:36] <bazhang> callnett, ask a question then
[20:36] <janhouse> that is the sad part. I have run out of empty cd' s and it is too late to buy one :D
[20:36] <unknown1x> flanders, In a Wubi installation. The Ubuntu is simply a folder on the C:\ Drive. I'm not sure how it works, but to access the "Windows Partition" you just browse to /host
[20:36] <callnett> i cant install anything
[20:36] <bazhang> janhouse, what about a usb stick
[20:36] <callnett> allways just failled
[20:37] <janhouse> well. I can't start from USB
[20:37] <janhouse> It hangs up
[20:37] <unknown1x> flanders, but there is folders within the Documents and settings folder.
[20:37] <talldave> I am having problems writing to usb hard disk, i have previously been able to
[20:37] <jerknextdoor> i have a problem that's carried over from 8.10 to 9.04 with a clean install.  my laptop will occasionally restart.  it seems pretty random, but is preceded by a loud beep.  i looked into a few months back and thought it was an overheating issue, but it doesnt happen with knoppix.  how can i start troubleshooting this.
[20:37] <janhouse> ok it doesnt.
[20:37] <bazhang> janhouse, then get some tomorrow, we will still be here :)
[20:37] <janhouse> I get that first SYSLNUX line
[20:37] <janhouse> and then I get line with boot:
[20:37] <grawity> talldave: Very often, USB devices become "read-only" because their filesystem has been corrupted for some reason.
[20:37] <janhouse> what should I write?
[20:37] <bazhang> callnett, doesnt work is not very descriptive please give more info
[20:37] <janhouse> nothing graphical appeared
[20:38] <bazhang> janhouse, for the usb stick? unetbootin
[20:38] <echo6> can someone take a peek at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8115522 and assist me to trouble shoot this issue
[20:38] <talldave> grawity: i am having the same problem with 2 different devices
[20:38] <janhouse> cannot find kernel unetbootin
[20:38] <janhouse> bazhang, any ideas?
[20:38] <sebsebseb> janhouse: oh you were trying to install Ubuntu onto a rather old computer?
[20:39] <guntbert> echo6: take the time to tell us a bit more about your problem
[20:39] <bazhang> janhouse, you wish to install via other means than cd? on an older computer
[20:39] <echo6> update-grub is reporting and error in post inst hook with a custom kernel
[20:39] <echo6> I get the error everytime I use apt-get
[20:39] <janhouse> sebsebseb, yes. It always works on fresh boxes but when I try pentium 4 boxes I usually get some problems.
[20:39] <callnett> bazhang:i tried to install flash player,opera everithing is faild
[20:39] <tibot_arch> Hi
[20:40] <bazhang> callnett, paste.ubuntu.com with the error messages
[20:40] <tibot_arch> is there an Ubuntu derivative that supports AVR microprocessors?
[20:40] <sebsebseb> janhouse: How much RAM?  Later versons of the Ubuntu Desktop CD  probably won't even boot up on 128MB RAM for example
[20:40] <sebsebseb> janhouse: or boot up properly
[20:40] <janhouse> bazhang, cd installation doesn't work on that computer. USB stick gets only to the boot: line
[20:40] <tibot_arch> like, "Ubuntu on ARM"?
[20:40] <user1> Is it my imagination, or has launchpad become deliberately awkward to open a new bug?
[20:40] <janhouse> sebsebseb, more then 512mb
[20:40] <guntbert> echo6: playing with custom kernels generally is not supported here
[20:40] <bazhang> janhouse, what version of ubuntu
[20:41] <janhouse> jaunty, karmic
[20:41] <Unknown1x> Did flanders peace?
[20:41] <janhouse> tryed both
[20:41] <callnett> bazhang: i cant copy
[20:41] <janhouse> I can try again with hardy :D
[20:41] <bazhang> jaunty has unetbootin in the repos janhouse
[20:41] <user1> How do I submit installation bugs?
[20:41] <bazhang> !bugs
[20:41] <echo6> the kernel works fine! that is not what I'm experiencing an issue with it is the behaviour of mkinitramfs script
[20:41] <talldave> I am having a problem writing to usb hard drive
[20:41] <Guest62815> hi
[20:42] <Guest62815> I ssh my machine with x11 forwarding enabled
[20:42] <Guest62815> I try to execute gedit
[20:42] <talldave> I am getting read only file system error
[20:42] <Guest62815> it says
[20:42] <Guest62815> gedit  (gedit:16147): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[20:42] <user1> bazhang: How, exactly, does one file an installation bug.
[20:42] <bazhang> user1, did you read that link
[20:42] <user1> bazhang:
[20:43] <user1> bazhang: My apologies - this IRC client keeps losing text!
[20:43] <user1> Thanks
[20:43] <dr-know> 4j
[20:44] <j0nr> bazhang: just saw something interesting... the router lit up during reboot...but then went back out as botting proceeded
[20:44] <j0nr> i think its duff hardware
[20:44] <bazhang> j0nr, it does indeed sound like a hardware issue as you suggest
[20:45] <del_diablo> Tool for accesing ext4 from Windows, does it exist yet? And it if it ONLY supports up to ext 3, then don't link to it!
[20:45] <callnett> bazhang:it is something happen maybe is the linux version is not perfect
[20:45] <Lenin_Cat> how do I write a ISO to a partition?
[20:46] <jack87> bazhang: i think they jumped on a different tangent :(
[20:46] <bazhang> callnett, we will need some specific error messages to troubleshoot
[20:46] <samushka> how do you erase your history from EMPATHY ?
[20:46] <netal> Hello, how do I add Fixed Sys font in Ubuntu?
[20:46] <callnett> bazhang:ok
[20:46] <callnett> bazhang: right now
[20:47] <BellinXFelon> ing signed into a yahoo account on Pidgin Instant Messenger, help?
[20:47] <del_diablo> Tool for accesing ext4 from Windows, is ther anyone?
[20:47] <bazhang> !yahoo | BellinXFelon
[20:48] <sebsebseb> del_diablo: that's probably not a good idea to even attempt accessing Ext4 from Windows
[20:48] <del_diablo> sebsebseb: Oh shut up. Yes or no?
[20:48] <Besogon> netal, http://blog.mateusz.adamowski.pl/2007/09/13/bitmapowe-fonty-w-gnome-terminalu/
[20:48] <callnett> bazhang: dpkg unable to read....
[20:48] <sebsebseb> del_diablo: Now you don't realy deserve a proper answer, untill you applogize
[20:49] <callnett> bazhang: filedescriptor
[20:49] <bazhang> del_diablo, please keep it civil
[20:49] <del_diablo> sebsebseb: You started it. How can you call "that's probably not a good idea to even attempt accessing Ext4 from Windows" anything but rude?
[20:50] <sebsebseb> del_diablo: Things can go wrong with the file system if you  attempt to use a driver for Windows to  access it
[20:50] <sebsebseb> del_diablo: as far as I know
[20:50] <bazhang> del_diablo, ubuntuforums search indicate no
[20:50] <l1mmmm5> is anyone familiar with GRUB error #17
[20:50] <captain_> bockwurst mit kartoffelsalat
[20:50] <bazhang> captain_, english here please
[20:50] <ortsvorsteher> !de | captain_
[20:50] <netal> Besogon lol thanks, I hope you can read polish
[20:50] <del_diablo> sebsebseb: And i should care because? Ext3 is already safe.
[20:50] <del_diablo> bazhang: Don't give me a wrong standard answer.
[20:50] <callnett> bazhang: can u help me?
[20:51] <sebsebseb> del_diablo: Ext4 is rather differnet to Ext3
[20:51] <captain_> that was englisch
[20:51] <l1mmmm5> it's preventing me from booting my machine, the problem with GRUB that is
[20:51] <bazhang> del_diablo, please remain civil here; I have asked once already
[20:51] <Besogon> netal, No, ) I don't know polish. But it seems I can undestand what is written there. )))
[20:51] <bazhang> l1mmmm5, is this a dual boot? which was installed first
[20:51] <captain_> WHO IS POLISH?
[20:52] <l1mmmm5> bazhang: this is a dual boot, vista first
[20:52] <erUSUL> !pl
[20:52] <bazhang> !pl
[20:52] <guntbert> captain_:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:52] <netal> Besogon I can barely follow an english guide, I dont  know what will I do with an polish guide lol
[20:52] <del_diablo> bazhang: Buzz of. sebsebseb should be warned for a really impolite answer.
[20:52] <captain_> yes
[20:52] <netal> Besogon I hope you can help if you dont mind
[20:52] <mdmcginn> Why am I still able to browse http://mylocalsite.com when it is no longer included in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled?
[20:52] <haroelcabo> how can I have a text file wit all the names of the packages installed in a system ?
[20:52] <captain_> but i'm thinking about it
[20:52] <guntbert> del_diablo: please keep polite
[20:52] <Billiard> mdmcginn: restart apache?
[20:52] <bazhang> del_diablo, if you persist you will be removed from the channel
[20:53] <sebsebseb> del_diablo: If you try and access an Ext4 partition from Windows,  you might even lose data!
[20:53] <IdleOne> del_diablo: sebsebseb's answer was not impolite, your interpertation of it may have been wrong. You have acted rudely towards both sebsebseb and bazhang.
[20:53] <del_diablo> sebsebseb: ................ please stop it. That is not an answer, that is a poor warning.
[20:53] <girlsname> Is it normal/expected for my Mini 10v to be unable to play Hulu videos at 480p?
[20:53] <bazhang> sebsebseb, please ignore
[20:54] <mdmcginn> Billiard: yes, after restarting too.
[20:54] <Guest62815> x11 forwarding doesn't work with ubuntu
[20:54] <Guest62815> xhost:  unable to open display ""
[20:54] <Eitan> Has "guided partitioning" been removed from ubuntu for the Jaunty release?
[20:54] <ortsvorsteher> Guest62815: on your local box, you did an xhost +?
[20:54] <bazhang> Eitan, no
[20:54] <l1mmmm5> bahzhang: any idea?
[20:54] <sebsebseb> bazhang: Sure, even though I had another answer for him as well.
[20:54] <Guest62815> ortsvorsteher: what's that? on the client or the remote machine?
[20:55] <bazhang> l1mmmm5, did you check the grub links
[20:55] <Eitan> bazhang: well I can't find it during my installation routine. All it has is "use entire disk" or manual.
[20:55] <callnett> del_diablo: a qestion
[20:55] <del_diablo> callnett: Ok, hit me :P
[20:55] <ortsvorsteher> Guest62815: on your client at first try an xhost +remote_machine_nam and than connect over ssh -X remote_machine
[20:55] <bazhang> Eitan, this is the live cd or the alternate
[20:55] <l1mmmm5> bazhang: I didn't. i tried booting off the live CD and reinstalling the GRUB software and it's not working
[20:55] <haroelcabo> how can I have a text file wit all the names of the packages installed in a system ?
[20:55] <l1mmmm5> bazhang: I don't know how to check the "GRUB links"
[20:56] <callnett> if i download the ubuntu fom the net can install it ?
[20:56] <Thorfinn_> bonsoir
[20:56] <IdleOne> !clone | haroelcabo
[20:56] <bazhang> !grub | l1mmmm5 here they are
[20:56] <j0nr> bazhang: ok now am really confused.... i just copied b43-fwcutter and the driver/firmware required on a usb stick tot he dodgey laptop... installed it all and rebooted...now the router is showing active...i.e. the light is on!
[20:56] <callnett> without cd rom
[20:56] <ortsvorsteher> !fr | Thorfinn_
[20:56] <callnett> del_diablo: without cd rom
[20:56] <j0nr> bazhang: wireless is available, but maybe ethernet is too?
[20:56] <Eitan> bazhang: when it boots it gives me the option of using it as a live cd or installing it
[20:56] <bazhang> callnett, sure with a usb stick among other methods
[20:56] <admeral> I have a question about getting my computer to upgrade.
[20:56] <l1mmmm5> bazhang: thanks, lemme try that
[20:56] <del_diablo> callnett: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[20:56] <sebsebseb> admeral: Ok what is the actsaul question?
[20:57] <bazhang> callnett, for 9.04 unetbootin is in the repos
[20:57] <j0nr> bazhang: aha eth0 is showing up in ifconfig... nm-applet says wired not managed?
[20:57] <admeral> My computer is not fetching the updates Or the ubgrade to ubuntu 9.05 it says its loosing the packets
[20:57] <bazhang> j0nr, well that is some progress
[20:57] <sebsebseb> admeral: Oh your on 8.10?
[20:58] <j0nr> bazhang: but random? why the b43 stuff would make it work?
[20:58] <admeral> Yes Hopeing not to be there forlong
[20:58] <ahtmly2k> HELP, i want to install dawn of ubuntu but i can't extract the "day_of_ubuntu" folder to "/usr/share/backgrounds".. it states that i don't have the permission.. could anyone please help me out? simple and detailed please..
[20:58] <haroelcabo> !clone
[20:58] <del_diablo> bazhang: Somebody mentioned install. Which on a quick assumation means that Ubuntu is NOT installed. So the repos answer would thus be invalid.
[20:58] <ortsvorsteher> !pm | Guest62815
[20:58] <arvind_khadri> ahtmly2k, how are you extracting it?CLI??
[20:58] <Guest62815> ortsvorsteher: how can I specify the port of the remote machine in this xhost command?
[20:58] <bazhang> del_diablo, he already has an installation, complains about not being able to install packages
[20:58] <sebsebseb> admeral: Not much point upgrading to 9.04 now, because 9.10 is out on October 29th,  plus this is a good one for many to be doing a clean install of,  becasue of default Ext4 :)   with Ext3 to Ext4 conversion probably not being quite good enough.
[20:59] <c_korn> hello, phonon outputs this error : Phonon error: "A required codec is missing. You need to install the following codec(s) to play this content: H.264" 1 ; is this codec available in some package so phonon can access it ?
[20:59] <ortsvorsteher> Guest62815: there is no host specification. did you try xhost manpage?
[20:59] <del_diablo> bazhang: "callnett	if i download the ubuntu fom the net can install it ?"
[20:59] <Eitan> bazhang: this is the screen that it gives me... there's no "guided" option: http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh454/unixmen/ubuntu/16.png
[20:59] <ahtmly2k> i'm using "File Roller"..
[21:00] <bazhang> Eitan, that is in virtualbox
[21:00] <Guest62815> ortsvorsteher: xhost:  unable to open display "" saguirre@proteus05:~$ gedit  (gedit:18485): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[21:00] <callnett> bazhang: what does it mean is in repos
[21:00] <admeral> So your saying I should just drop Ubuntu out of my sestem and do a fresh install and then reset my gui and reinstall my aps?
[21:00] <bazhang> callnett, you have an existing installation of ubuntu now?
[21:00] <Eitan> bazhang: I gave you that screen as an example for what I see. I am not using a virtualbox.
[21:00] <ortsvorsteher> Guest62815: after you did an xhost +remote_machine_name, did you connect with ssh -X user@host?
[21:00] <sebsebseb> admeral: Well what's up wtih 8.10, why  did you want to upgrade to 9.04?
[21:00] <callnett> bazhang: yes
[21:00] <mdmcginn> After updating /etc/apache2/sites-available, and then running sudo a2ensite mylocalsite.com, which command should I conclude with: sudo apache2ctl restart or sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload or sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart? Do I need to sudo a2dissite first, whenever changing my virtual host configuration?
[21:01] <erUSUL> Eitan: i guess that in a blank disk guided paritionening makes no sense ?? maybe it only appears when there is dual boot scenario
[21:01] <bazhang> callnett, and what is the exact error message you get
[21:01] <callnett> bazhang: give me a sec.
[21:01] <Guest62815> ortsvorsteher: yes
[21:01] <Pici> mdmcginn: I usually restart the apache2 daemon after making changes, I don't know if doing a reload is sufficient though.
[21:01] <IdleOne> admeral: no. check to see in Software Sources and make sure that in the Updates tab you have Normal releases selected.
[21:01] <whileimhere> I have two computers on one router. My laptop is wireless and the desktop is wired. Is there a simple way to transfer files back and forth without using a thumbrdrive, cd or email?
[21:02] <janhouse> How can I install ubuntu using live cd if graphical installation fails after I complete wizard. I can access everything (firefox, terminal etc.).
[21:02] <Animagladius> Huhu.
[21:02] <ortsvorsteher> Guest62815: try now on remote machine echo $DISPLAY
[21:02] <janhouse> Can I install it using terminal?
[21:02] <Pici> mdmcginn: Using sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart (which is the same as sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart)
[21:02] <Dr_Willis> whileimhere:  if they can ping each other.. install ssh and use scp for easy transfers
[21:02] <Eitan> erUSUL: I have a dual boot situation. It doesn't give me the option for guided partitioning with that either. In any case guided partitioning is necessary if you want to make separate partitions for /home or other directories.
[21:02] <arvind_khadri> ahtmly2k, you need to use command line to extract it, or run nautilus with root permissions
[21:02] <ph33r> how do I run a .c file ?
[21:02] <bazhang> janhouse, the alternate cd is an option
[21:02] <Guest62815> ortsvorsteher: returns an empty line
[21:02] <ortsvorsteher> Guest62815: what is the output of that?
[21:02] <Dr_Willis> whileimhere:  or set up some mpre perment shares either via nfs, or samba
[21:03] <janhouse> bazhang, don't have any cd's left and usb disk won't boot
[21:03] <erUSUL> Eitan: manual partitioning can be used for that too i guess
[21:03] <Guest62815> ortsvorsteher: an empty line, then prompt again
[21:03] <janhouse> so can I do it from live cd
[21:03] <callnett> bazhang: dpkg unable to read filedescriptor
[21:03] <janhouse> from desktop
[21:03] <ortsvorsteher> Guest62815: try to set display now: export DISPLAY=client_ip:0.0
[21:03] <ahtmly2k> how do i do that?
[21:03] <janhouse> I have internet connection
[21:03] <asturjad> #asturias
[21:03] <admeral> On my laptop only I am not able to fetch any of the sestem updates. for 8.10 and I am not able to fetch the upgrade either. No Problems with my desktop. It is on a Dell Vostro 1500 with an intel duo 1.8 ghz per core proccessor and 4 gig ddr2 ram. this shouldent be a hardware problem and I am running full g 54mps so it shouldent be a hardware problem
[21:03] <callnett> bazhang: bad file descriptor
[21:03] <sebsebseb> admeral: 8.10 is actsaully also my favourite release since 8.04 however since Ext4...
[21:03] <sebsebseb> admeral: Is this a pre installed Ubuntu Dell?
[21:03] <Eitan> erUSUL: I understand that, but the point is that I don't know enough to do fully manual partitioning, and I don't want a single partition for the whole installation either. Guided partitioning is exactly what I need and it seems to be missing from jaunty.
[21:04] <ortsvorsteher> Guest62815: after you exported your display, try the echo command new, there you see if it was set
[21:04] <arvind_khadri> ahtmly2k, gksu nautilus, type that in the propmpt you get aftr you hit Alt+F2
[21:04] <sebsebseb> admeral: Also it sounds like a broken package manager.
[21:04] <Guest62815> ortsvorsteher: the public ip of client right?
[21:04] <Dr_Willis> Eitan:  i was thinking it shows up if you have a section of unallocated drive space.  (but ive not  installed jaunty in ages),
[21:04] <Guest62815> ortsvorsteher: on both sides I have routers
[21:05] <vegetarik> hello
[21:05] <ortsvorsteher> Guest62815: yes, the public ip from where you come to remote machine
[21:05] <CornScout1> hello
[21:05] <callnett> bazhang: r u still here?
[21:06] <bazhang> callnett, yes
[21:06] <Eitan> Dr_Willis: well, for me it doesn't show up no matter what I do.
[21:07] <Guest62815> ortsvorsteher: ok at least now it gets stuck
[21:07] <l1mmmm5> bazhang: when i type mount /dev/sda5 (my linux partition), it sits there and doesn't do anything
[21:07] <ahtmly2k> okay it works thanx.. i'll see hoe it goes..
[21:07] <l1mmmm5> bazhang: does this have to do with file system corruption
[21:07] <Guest62815> ortsvorsteher: do I need to open any port on client?
[21:07] <erUSUL> Eitan: i see...
[21:07] <callnett> bazhang: so if i download the ubuntu on a flash driver can i reinstall?simply
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> Eitan:  i tend to just use gparted from the live cd to set up the partitions as i like. then run the installer and tell it where to put / and /home and swap. (i normally just use 3 parittions)
[21:08] <ortsvorsteher> Guest62815: do you have any firewalls between your client and the remote machine?
[21:08] <l1mmmm5> bazhang: i actually get the error "mount: can't find /dev/sda5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[21:08] <Guest62815> like 4 :D
[21:08] <bazhang> callnett, you currently have jaunty?
[21:08] <ortsvorsteher> Guest62815: over firewalls i think it wont work, sorry...
[21:09] <callnett> bazhang: what is it?
[21:09] <callnett> bazhang: sorr
[21:09] <bazhang> callnett, 9.04
[21:09] <tmaioli> test
[21:09] <Guest62815> ortsvorsteher: so if there are firewalls in the middle it doesn't work?
[21:09] <Eitan> Dr_Willis: I will try to do that. But what happened to "guided" in jaunty?????
[21:09] <callnett> bazhang: i dont know
[21:10] <bazhang> callnett, in terminal type lsb_release -a
[21:10] <mdmcginn> Pici,  http://myoldsite.com is still working, but not http://mynewsite.com. All my updates to sites-available are taking effect, except the virtual host name isn't changing.  myoldsite no longer exists in sites-enabled or sites-available. I renamed the directory, and I'm reaching it through the old virtual host name.
[21:10] <Guest62815> ortsvorsteher: is there any alternative?
[21:10] <ortsvorsteher> Guest62815: you need it for edit some files on remote machine? yes, if you have firewalls in the middle, it wont work...
[21:10] <ortsvorsteher> Guest62815: what exactly you need to do? an remote machine?
[21:10] <Guest62815> I need to use eclipse, firefox
[21:10] <Eitan> Dr_Willis: I can attest to the fact that there in all the screenshots for the jaunty installation on the web, there is not one with the "guided" option on the partitioning screen. I don't think jaunty has a guided option. The question is why not.
[21:11] <callnett> bazhang: 9.10karmik
[21:11] <Guest62815> ortsvorsteher: I need to access eclipse ide, firefox
[21:12] <ortsvorsteher> Guest62815: sorry, i have no idea, you are the manager of the firewalls? may you have to open some ports or ... wait...
[21:12] <pretender80> i have a dell optiplex 755 ubuntu 8.04. cant get desktop effects how di i get ubuntu 8.04 to pickup my video card Q35 Express
[21:12] <bazhang> callnett, that is beta, #ubuntu+1 for support (not here)
[21:13] <Guest62815> yes I manage all the firewall
[21:13] <Guest62815> s
[21:13] <callnett> bazhang: so what do you think?
[21:13] <mgv2> why the speakers could make noise when i close the monitor lid?
[21:13] <bazhang> callnett, /join #ubuntu+1
[21:13] <ortsvorsteher> Guest62815: may you need to create an tunnel for that, but it dont know how exactly
[21:13] <m0r0n> !lofs
[21:14] <m0r0n> !logs
[21:14] <ortsvorsteher> Guest62815: may you search the web to create an tunnel for your needs...
[21:14] <Doc_Lappy> is there a way to increase my partition while in ubuntu or do i have to use the live cd and redo my partitions?
[21:14] <Eitan> Dr_Willis: gparted doesn't have guided partitioning either.
[21:14] <m0r0n> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ org/freenode/     Does this work for anyone?
[21:14] <flavioibanez> hi
[21:15] <erUSUL> Doc_Lappy: the later, mounted paritions can not be edited
[21:15] <raven_> hi - ffmpeg problem: http://pastebin.com/d29ee8ee8 does anyone know what's going wrong? tnx
[21:15] <Doc_Lappy> k thanks erUSUL
[21:16] <Eitan> Does anyone here know how to get to the "guided" partitioning option in the jaunty installation? Does jaunty have a "guided" partitioning option?
[21:16] <cody_> Eitan: That is the main partition choice
[21:16] <Doc_Lappy> yes eitan
[21:16] <cody_> Eitan: Do you mean manual?
[21:17] <Eitan> cody_: not on my screen it isn't.
[21:17] <cody_> Eitan: What does your screen say?
[21:17] <chalcedony> on my new ubuntu (9.04) where is xsane copying things to? how do i set it?
[21:17] <Eitan> cody_: no... I don't mean manual. The only choices it gives me is "use the entire disk" or manual... there is no mention of the word "guided"
[21:18] <mgmuscari1> does anyone know where the usplash_XXX_YYY.png.c files are?
[21:18] <mgmuscari1> i have the usplash source here and i'm trying to modify it to take a larger pixmap
[21:18] <Eitan> cody_: It looks like this one (but this is not my screen and I am not using a virtualbox) http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh454/unixmen/ubuntu/16.png
[21:18] <cody_> Eitan: Use the entire disk is half of the guided. Sometimes (If you are lucky) it will allow you to choose co-exist with another operating system. You might have to do it manually (are you keepin gwindows also?)
[21:18] <edbian> Why is it that gnome system monitor reports that I'm using 157MB of ram but the "free" command reports that I'm using 630MB ?
[21:19] <cody_> Eitan: Do you have an operating system installed on it already?
[21:19] <erUSUL> !usplash | mgmuscari1
[21:19] <Arelis> I'm having trouble burning the Ubuntu ISO on my Mac... It never stops writing the track, and when I do it with another program called Burn, it gives an error.
[21:19] <mgmuscari1> erUSUL: i'm making my own custom usplash... i'm trying to figure out where the heck the includes are
[21:19] <cody_> Arelis: Is it a supported disk?
[21:19] <WanHouse> mgmuscari1: bootsplash in grub.conf (Or it used to be)
[21:19] <Arelis> cody_: It's a verbatim dvd-r
[21:19] <Eitan> cody_: no the "use the entire disk" option does not allow me to be guided... it simply makes one big partition for the whole installation. I want to make a separate partition for home. I do not know enough to do manual... so I need the guided option that has been in all the previous versions but seems to be missing from jaunty.
[21:19] <Arelis> err
[21:19] <cody_> Arelis: Because certain CDs dont work with certain programs (IDK why, but it is)
[21:19] <Arelis> cd-r
[21:20] <Arelis> sorry
[21:20] <mgmuscari1> sigh...
[21:20] <FloodBot3> Arelis: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:20] <WanHouse> mgmuscari1: bootsplash in grub.conf (Or it used to be
[21:20] <mgmuscari1> ok, i have the source code to usplash... it's a tree of code that you compile into a .so
[21:20] <cody_> Eitan: I will guide you through the manual option for that (you need to do it manually for a seperate /home)(=
[21:20] <mgmuscari1> i know how to deploy it and test it
[21:20] <cody_> Arelis: Did you choose the DVD Iso from ubuntu's website?
[21:20] <WanHouse> mgmuscari1: The image should reside on the boot partition, IE: /boot...
[21:20] <Eitan> cody_: I have windows installed on a second drive. Having that drive plugged in or disconnected during the installation does not make any difference in whether I see a "guided" option or not. The guided option is nowhere to be found.
[21:20] <Arelis> cody_: No.
[21:20] <mgmuscari1> WanHouse: i know that... i'm trying to BUILD the image
[21:21] <mgmuscari1> hmmm
[21:21] <cody_> Arelis: That is probably why, you need the DVD iso ;)
[21:21] <cody_> Arelis: If you are using a DVD-r
[21:21] <jack87>  booting vbox now
[21:21] <Arelis> cody_: It isn't a dvd-r, it is a cd-r, I just corrected myself in 3 lines.
[21:21] <cody_> Eitan: Okay, well, open manual and i will guide you throrgh it
[21:21] <chalcedony> on my new ubuntu (9.04) where is xsane copying things to? how do i set it?
[21:21] <cody_> Arelis: I did not see it because i am helping multiple people, sorry. What is the error you get?
[21:21] <WanHouse> mgmuscari1: Its like the Tiger i once built on the C64 :)
[21:21] <Eitan> cody_: ok... my drive size is exactly 30020 megabytes, if that helps.
[21:22] <Arelis> cody_: With the program Burn, it just says that the burning failed.. and with the Disk Utility, it just keeps on burning forever.
[21:22] <cody_> Eitan: So it is less than 8GB?
[21:22] <mgmuscari1> hehe i'm trying to make the splash png  be 1440x900
[21:22] <WanHouse> mgmuscari1: 128x128 or something like that. Awesome!
[21:22] <WanHouse> mgmuscari1: Cool
[21:22] <Eitan> cody_: 30020 megabytes, not 3020 megabytes
[21:22] <cody_> Arelis: Hmm... How big is the CD-R? (Different companys have  different sizes)
[21:22] <Arelis> cody_: 800MB
[21:23] <cody_> Eitan: oooh, okay. So, are you in manual?
[21:23] <mgmuscari1> but the usplash-theme-ubuntu source code only accounts for up to 600x500
[21:23] <{Onyx}> Am I retarded or is GPG email signing with Evolution broken? Works fine in Thunderbird but Evolution gives an error about not being able to find the private key.
[21:23] <cody_> Arelis: Okay, bigger than needed (good) and does the mac give you any info whatsoever on why it failed?
[21:23] <Arelis> cody_: no.
[21:23] <erUSUL> {Onyx}: works for me
[21:23] <Eitan> I'm on another computer in another room entirely. So it would be nice to get all the instructions at once... otherwise I'll have to go back and forth for each instruction.
[21:23] <cody_> Arelis: That makes it much harder to fix haha.
[21:24] <{Onyx}> erUSUL: What version?
[21:24] <WanHouse> mgmuscari1: Do not ever give up any of your goals. Ps: id like to know how you did that because i can only color my boot menu or make is background be a picture.
[21:24] <mgmuscari1> WanHouse: how adept are you at programming in c?
[21:24] <Arelis> cody_: This is the last CD-R i'm allowed to use.
[21:24] <erUSUL> {Onyx}: jaunty but have allways worked for me and i used every single ubuntu version
[21:24] <bazhang> Arelis, this is using OS X ?
[21:24] <WanHouse> mgmuscari1: Kind of ok
[21:24] <Eitan> cody_: the ubuntu people saw it fit to not include a chat program on the installation cd... I would have to retrieve that with synaptic.
[21:24] <Arelis> bazhang: yes
[21:24] <mgmuscari1> WanHouse: i'm following this tutorial: http://www.flyninja.net/?p=884
[21:24] <bazhang> Arelis, how does ubuntu support fit into this
[21:24] <WanHouse> mgmuscari1: I make www.gadmintools.org for one
[21:25] <gn-away> Should my Mini 10v be able to playback 480p videos on Hulu?
[21:25] <mgmuscari1> WanHouse: now i'm tracing through the source code to modify it to my needs
[21:25] <{Onyx}> erUSUL: Was talking about Evolution version. Because my email encryption works but if I check of to sign the email it fails.
[21:25] <WanHouse> mgmuscari1: The page is slow to read though.
[21:25] <cody_> Eitan: Okay, here it goes: Open the manual partitioning in install, and select "Create New Partition" and choose Ext3 as the filesystem, set it to 8192 MB. Next, and in the mount point, choose /. Next, create another partition, Ext3 again, and have it fill the rest of the hard drive. Then as the mount point, choose /home. Check format for both. (And there is a chat program on the Install CD {Unless you have alrenative} it is pidgin IM, in internet)
[21:25] <luc_> hi, just installed daily karmic build and no sound out of amarok. but sound ok for the rest
[21:25] <erUSUL> {Onyx}: there is one to one correspondence between evolution version and ubuntu version
[21:26] <bazhang> luc_, #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[21:26] <luc_> sorry ?
[21:26] <erUSUL> {Onyx}: but is 2.26.1 in jaunty
[21:26] <cody_> luc_: Type /join #ubuntu+1
[21:26] <{Onyx}> erUSUL: Hmmm, I'll dig through my settings then because I can't get it to work.
[21:26] <WanHouse> bazhang: Hanging ok ? :)
[21:26] <cody_> luc_: ubuntu+1 is the official support room for karmic koala (9.10)
[21:27] <erUSUL> {Onyx}: you only have to put the key id in the account preferences
[21:27] <{Onyx}> erUSUL: Did
[21:27] <ente> http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=logo-edubuntu2h6uo.png
[21:27] <ente> what do you think?
[21:27] <ente> :D
[21:27] <FloodBot3> ente: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:28] <dmead> hey channel
[21:28] <erUSUL> {Onyx}: maybe a typo (if it does not encounter the key...)
[21:28] <cody_> Eitan: actually, leave at least 2GB for a swap partition
[21:28] <dmead> does ubuntu keep it's config for X someplace odd?
[21:28] <{Onyx}> erUSUL: And the encryption works fine just not the signing and the signing works fine with Thunder
[21:28] <Eitan> cody_: Thanks. I will try to follow that... (by the way... I stand by my assertion that "guided" has been removed from jaunty, and no one seems to know why)
[21:28] <dmead> i'm looking at my xorg.conf and it's barren
[21:28] <phr_> any idea why my file copies are so slow?  i have two discs in this machine and cp'ing or rsync'ing a 4gb file seems to transfer at 5MB/sec or so, which is terrible.  dd bs=1M transfers at around 10M/sec, which is still terrible but only half as terrible.  copying to an external USB drive is 20+ MB/sec
[21:28] <cody_> Eitan: It practically has, because it NEVER works. I got it to work the FIRST time i installed xD
[21:28] <Eitan> cody_: oh boy... I'll need instructions for that too....
[21:28] <cody_> Eitan: And your welcome
[21:28] <erUSUL> {Onyx}: i guess you made a typo when specifying the key id
[21:28] <phr_> i don't see anything in dmesg indicating i/o errors
[21:29] <{Onyx}> erUSUL: is there a another spot to put the signing key ID?
[21:29] <erUSUL> {Onyx}: encryption uses the recipient key that evo finds via the mail adress but signing needs your secret key id
[21:29] <cody_> Eitan: Haha. Just leave 2GB after making the 2nd ext3 (for /home) and create a linux-swap filesystem, put nothing in the mount point and format it as well
[21:29] <ketil> I seem to be unable to upload to my PPA.  dput claims it does upload it, but nothing happens on the PPA web page in launchpad.
[21:29] <girlsname> Should my Mini 10v be able to playback 480p videos on Hulu?
[21:29] <erUSUL> {Onyx}: what do you type as key id ?
[21:30] <phr_> hmm, now dd has also slowed to 4M/sec
[21:30] <cody_> just a quick question, what is the best program for recording your desktop as an avi file?
[21:30] <{Onyx}> erUSUL: Think I found the issue. The key ID is 93ACDC3E and I had a c in front of it.
[21:31] <erUSUL> {Onyx}: so I was right ;P cheers
[21:31] <bcool> Ubuntu is telling me I don't have permission to unmount a DVD, is there a custom command I can use to override this?
[21:31] <{Onyx}> erUSUL: Strange though because I was sending encrypted mail to myself and everything was working fine.
[21:31] <phr_> sudo
[21:31] <Ronnie>  Hi, i got an annoying problem, i installed gnome global menu so i coudl show someone how you could make ubuntu look like MAC OSX, but now im trying to restor the original gnome layout but dispite removing global menu from the system in synaptec i still cant get back my normal window menus :( can anyone help?
[21:31] <cody_> bcool: Try using: sudo umount (where the dvdrom is located)
[21:31] <{Onyx}> erUSUL: Thanks for getting me to recheck it :)
[21:32] <erUSUL> {Onyx}: no problem
[21:32] <cody_> so something like this bcool: sudo umount /media/cdrom0 (but it will likely not be cdrom0 since it is a dvdrom :p)
[21:32] <pretender80> anyone able to help on he q35 express on hardy.  no compiz
[21:32] <Ronnie> >.<
[21:33] <sebsebseb> Ronnie: maybe the command that sets the panels back to default, will help, or partly help
[21:33] <bcool> unmount command not found
[21:33] <cody_> Ronnie: The original menu for ubuntu is: Menu Bar
[21:33] <eitan2> cody_: I'm on the target computer in the live ubuntu system now.
[21:33] <cody_> eitan2: okay, need the instructions one by one?
[21:33] <Arelis> bazhang: Because it's about burning the Ubuntu ISO on OSX, but i'm going to try it on my parents's windows pc
[21:33] <Ronnie> Just re install it through apt yea?
[21:33] <{Onyx}> Sweet, working now. Just need to send myself a test email and check it in gmail to see if it signs all funky like Thunderbird did.
[21:33] <Ronnie> Menubar or..
[21:33] <cody_> bcool: Not unmount, umount
[21:33] <eitan2> cody_: that would be nice... I'll run the installation program again... or should I just use gparted?
[21:33] <sebsebseb> Ronnie:  Have you done a Mac OS X theme as well?
[21:34] <cody_> eitan2: Use the installer, gparted cant set the mount positions
[21:34] <eitan2> cody_: got it.
[21:34] <Ronnie> sebsebseb: Yea, somone wanted to see it done now im tryign to set it all back XD
[21:34] <cody_> eitan2: Let me know when you are in manual partitioner
[21:34] <sebsebseb> Ronnie: so change the theme back to the Ubuntu one in the normal way?
[21:35] <cody_> sebsebseb: I have gotten the perfect mac OSX theme, but i was forced to restore ubuntu <_< and im too lazy to set it up again cause it took several days
[21:35] <sebsebseb> Ronnie: you didn't have to pm that
[21:35] <Ronnie> Sry :p
[21:35] <Ronnie> I did do that, but the nomal menus are not restored.  Fiel edit etc
[21:36] <mgmuscari1> ah, i got it
[21:36] <cody_> Ronnie: Oh, you mean in programs?
[21:36] <eitan2> cody_: ok... let me tell you the setup... I have a blank 30gig drive set as master, and a separate bootable 40g windows 2000 drive set up as slave.
[21:36] <Ronnie> Yea,
[21:36] <dmead> channel
[21:36] <mgmuscari1> add an extern struct corresponding to the larger usplash pixmap in the usplash-theme-ubuntu.c file
[21:36] <mgmuscari1> add a corresponding entry in the makefile
[21:36] <dmead> how do i get ubuntu to write a complete xorg.conf
[21:36] <mgmuscari1> and that should do it
[21:36] <cody_> eitan2: Okay, and the blank 30gig will hold ubuntu?
[21:36] <bcool> anyway to tell what I am supposed to put in place of cdrom0
[21:36] <eitan2> cody_: the screen "prepare disk space" is up and it says that "this computer has windows 2000 on it" where do you want to put ubuntu?
[21:36] <cody_> Ronnie: okay, usually, you can right click the top bar and choose "Show Menu"
[21:37] <eitan2> cody_: yes... the blank one is for ubuntu
[21:37] <cody_> eitan2: Is the 40g windows 2000 plugged in usb?
[21:37] <bcool> nm I think I found it
[21:37] <eitan2> cody_: no.. both are ide
[21:38] <Nillerz> Hellow
[21:38] <cody_> eitan2: Okay, lets see. open up manual partitioner, and there should be a drop down in the top right of the screen. One will have a ntfs partition on it, the other with nothing. The other with nothing is the one you want
[21:38] <Nillerz> Does anyone know how to make the extra slide-out monitor work in Ubuntu?
[21:38] <eitan2> cody_: the options are "install side by side" "use entire disk" "use largest free space" and "specify partitions manually"
[21:38] <bcool> Awsome I got it.
[21:38] <Ronnie> cody: I cant find that anywhere.
[21:38] <bcool> Thanks for the help.
[21:38] <cody_> eitan2: Specify partitions manually
[21:38] <eitan2> cody_: ok.. scanning disks
[21:38] <cody_> eitan2: Okay
[21:38] <flanders> Does anyone know how to modify the file in this tutorial? They don't really give a good explanation other than "modify it!": http://www.howtoforge.com/accessing_windows_or_samba_shares_using_autofs
[21:38] <Nillerz> I say again, does anyone know how to make the Lenovo Thinkpad W700DS's extra monitor work in Ubuntu?
[21:38] <ericdb> It looks like in Karmic, the scripts /etc/acpi/video_brightness{up|down}.sh have been dropped.  Where can I customize this behavior now?
[21:39] <guntbert> !karmic | ericdb
[21:39] <sebsebseb> !karmic |  ericdb
[21:39] <eitan2> cody_: it says /dev/sda ... then /dev/sdb then indented /dev/sdb1 ntfs
[21:39]  * guntbert smiles at sebsebseb 
[21:39] <ericdb> Thanks guntbert and sebsebseb.
[21:39] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I use gksudo something to edit files on a server with a graphical application on my computer?
[21:39] <eitan2> cody_: I want to install to /dev/sda
[21:39] <cody_> /dev/sdb has windows 2000 on it. does /dev/sda1 have anything?
[21:40] <sebsebseb> guntbert: great minds think alike?  altough there's nothing special about doing that
[21:40] <cody_> eitan2: Okay, then make sure /dev/sda is selected (it will only show unallocated)
[21:40] <Ronnie> Mike_lofeguard: Use sudo instead of gksudo
[21:40] <eitan2> cody_: /dev/sda is blank.. no partition table... /dev/sda1 doesn't exist yet
[21:41] <cody_> eitan2: Then click "Create new partition) at the bottom, and a box will pop up. Type in 8192 in the size box, ext3 as the filesystem, check format, and choose "/" as the mount point. Then click ok/done/create. Let me know when you have finished that
[21:41] <eitan2> cody_: the options buttons say "new partition table" and "undo"
[21:41] <guntbert> Mike_lifeguard: you need to open the connectio to the remote machine with ssh -X ... - (capital X)
[21:41] <flanders> Ronnie, can't he use "gksu gedit /path/to/file" ?
[21:41] <cody_> eitan2: Click new partition table i mean
[21:41] <Mike_lifeguard> Ronnie: Well obviously that'll do for using nano or something on the remote machine, which is not what I asked about.
[21:41] <nighty__> Guten Abend =) Ich hab ein Problem mit ampache und coherence... kann mir da jemand helfen?
[21:41] <Pici> !de | nighty__
[21:41] <eitan2> cody_: question... why ext3 and not ext4?
[21:42] <Mike_lifeguard> guntbert: I thought that required X on the server (which would be unusual)
[21:42] <cody_> eitan2: Well, truly, you can use either, im using ext4 because im upgrading to karmic, choose whichever you want, ubuntu 9.04 can run on either
[21:42] <guntbert> Ronnie: don't use graphical programs with sudo
[21:42] <sebsebseb> eitan2: Ext4 isn't properly stable in 9.04, because of the kernel and such,  it will however be in 9.10, and clean installs of Ubuntu will get it by default
[21:42] <flanders> Ronnie, Only thing I can think of, and I'm far from an expert, is to create a remote share, and use gksu gedit on the files.
[21:43] <cody_> eitan2: Also what sebsebseb said :p
[21:43] <Ronnie> Mike_lifegaurd: If you want to use gedit to edit flile on a local machine you can use ssh -X <host> which enables GUI forwarding, but the Gnome libraries and apps need to be installed on that machine
[21:43] <flanders> Ronnie, otherwise, I think you're limited to terminal text editors.
[21:43] <guntbert> Mike_lifeguard: it would require the actual program (for instance gedit), not an X server
[21:43] <eitan2> cody_: oh... :( ... how soon till karmic comes out?
[21:43] <genii> 28th
[21:43] <sebsebseb> genii: 29th
[21:43] <cody_> eitan2: yea, like 12 days i think. You can use the beta (I am upgrading to it from jaunty)
[21:44] <genii> Or 29th ;)
[21:44] <eitan2> cody_: is karmic lts?
[21:44] <guntbert> Mike_lifeguard: as Ronnie just said, but don't use graphical programs with sudo
[21:44] <sebsebseb> etotheipi: Karmic won't be LTS, but Lucid the next one is
[21:44] <sebsebseb> !lucid |  etotheipi
[21:44] <eitan2> oh
[21:44] <cody_> eitan2: No, it is not :p
[21:45] <cody_> !lucid | eitan2
[21:45] <joebodo_> !lts
[21:45] <Mike_lifeguard> guntbert, Ronnie: Thanks, I think I'll copy the file so I own it, edit with a graphical application then copy it back
[21:45] <cody_> eitan2: Got the 1st partition set up yet?
[21:45] <eitan2> cody_: so the first partition I create will be "primary" right? and it will contain the ubuntu main system files, right? that's the one that should be 8 gigs?
[21:45] <Dreamglider> is there a way to view the second monitor(2nd monitor being a Projector) in a window on the main monitor ?. I can not get a good view of the projected image so i need a way to see it on the main screen.
[21:45] <cody_> eitan2: Yes, exactly
[21:46] <cody_> eitan2: Make sure mount point is set as "/" before you click done
[21:46] <eitan2> cody_: ok... hold on..
[21:46] <guntbert> Mike_lifeguard: easy enough done - use scp for the copying
[21:46] <cody_> eitan2: Okay, let me know when it finishes the 1st
[21:47] <eitan2> cody_: location "beginning" mount point "/" ?
[21:47] <cody_> eitan2: Yes
[21:47] <eitan2> cody_: ok... done.
[21:47] <{Onyx}> Cool, now that I have GPG working with Evolution I just have to talk my not security aware friends into using encryption/signing. My wife asked me last night why she should and I told her what if I was out of town and she needed the credit card number to buy something online. I'd want to encrypt it if I was going to email it.
[21:47] <trism> Mike_lifeguard: I did a bit of googling and it appears kate will allow you to do something like sftp://path_to_file, and it will cache the file locally and then push out edits to the server when you save
[21:47] <cody_> eitan2: For the next partition, in the size, type 20480 (for 20GB) and choose (ext3 or ext4, whatever you chose for 1st partition) check format, then choose /home as the mount point
[21:48] <eitan2> cody_: question... is 8 gigs the recommended size for any ubuntu system partition in general?
[21:48] <cody_> eitan2: Yes
[21:48] <sebsebseb> eitan2: depends
[21:48] <cody_> eitan2: If you put home on it, then it is the full partition
[21:48] <sebsebseb> eitan2: if you have a big seperate /home that should be ok
[21:48] <babak> hi
[21:48] <sebsebseb> eitan2: if not and you start filling up home with a lot of stuff, bigish files, you will probably run out of space
[21:48] <cody_> eitan2: Exactly what sebsebseb said
[21:48] <Mike_lifeguard> guntbert, trism: ANY good editor will let you edit over sftp (etc) - the issue is you do so as yourself, not as root, so you cannot edit root's files except with copying or changing permissions
[21:48] <babak> how can change to txt mode?
[21:49] <{Onyx}> cody/eitan2: I've got like 9gb taken up and all I use that partition for is Ubuntu and apps?
[21:49] <cody_> eitan2: Let me know when the seconds (/home) partition is odne
[21:49] <{Onyx}> Err that should have been a period.
[21:49] <eitan2> cody_: but 8 gigs is more than enough for ubuntu system files... even if I install a lot of programs later on with synaptic... right?
[21:49] <mtnbkr> babak: CTRL-ALT-F1  ?
[21:49] <cody_> {Onyx}: yes, as long as /home is on a seperate partition, although the most of the files go into home
[21:49] <sebsebseb> eitan2: maybe, maybe not
[21:49] <Wolfcastle> hello
[21:50] <mtnbkr> babak: CTRL-ALT-F7 to get back to X
[21:50] <eitan2> sebsebseb: what do you mean?
[21:50] <cody_> eitan2: Yes, ubuntu system takes up about 6 or 7 GB. If you are likely to install more than 1GB of programs, then add an extra gig or 2
[21:50] <cody_> and take away an extra gig or 2 from home
[21:50] <{Onyx}> eitan2: No ti won't. I'm using over 9gb so far just for file system and apps.
[21:50] <sebsebseb> eitan2: for example on the other computer with only a 15GB  partition after quite a lot of games from the repo and such,  only 6GB  free space
[21:50] <trism> Mike_lifeguard: good point *shrugs*
[21:50] <Wolfcastle> I've noticed that the cpu speed applet can only manage one core at a time
[21:50] <guntbert> Mike_lifeguard: from experience I prefer changing the ownership on the remote machine, but in such a case I would simply use a non GUI editor
[21:50] <Wolfcastle> shouldn't it be able to manage the speed of all cores?
[21:51] <cody_> sebsebseb: Yes, but many people do not install games on ubuntu, it isnt exactly known for games ;) I install main apps like firefox 3.5 and the like
[21:51] <Wolfcastle> as for now I'm using two applets, one for each core but it's kind of annoying
[21:51] <Mike_lifeguard> guntbert: I wouldn't change permissions/ownership on the original though - copy it, do your work, then copy it back
[21:51] <JonathanD> I wouldn't mind more games.
[21:51] <cody_> Though i should probably have made my system partition 10GB since im upgrading to karmic hehe
[21:51] <cody_> i have 8G for my system partition :p
[21:51] <sebsebseb> cody_: well most of those games  are from the repo :)  and Linux distros can be good for gaming as well or reasonably good
[21:52] <eitan2> cody_: the /home partition should be logical, not primary, right?
[21:52] <cody_> sebsebseb: Yes, but if you try to run a commerical game on it, it doesnt always run smoothylu ;)
[21:52] <cody_> eitan2: I didnt have to choose logical ha. Or primary. But i think so
[21:52] <cody_> eitan2: Before you clicked new partition table, what were all the choices?
[21:52] <sebsebseb> cody_: well we need more good  open source  games that are as good as a lot of the commerical games,  by the sounds of it there's something in development at the moment actsaulley
[21:52] <trism> Mike_lifeguard: seems easier to just fire up vim/nano/whatever and just edit it like that
[21:52] <cody_> there should have been one more eitan2
[21:53] <amgarchIn9> Hi, after upgrade to 9.10 aptitude wants to remove "binutils-static" because "they are no longer used". Can anybody with a fresh install of 9.10 check if "binutils-static" is installed?
[21:53] <guntbert> Mike_lifeguard: of course - I assumed as much :) , but still: is the task so big that you don't want to use nano or joe or vi(m) ?
[21:53] <cody_> sebsebseb: I would definatly hope so, i want a game like civilization for ubuntu ;) a good game though, most of the open source ones are not too good
[21:53] <sebsebseb> cody_: also get a games console or something,  stop playing Windows games ideally :)
[21:53] <bazhang> amgarchIn9, #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[21:53] <PolitikerNEU> amgarchIn9: Not a fresh, but a working (more or less) install of karmic: binutils-static is NOT installed
[21:53] <sebsebseb> cody_: in fact now quite a lot of the later games  aren't being made for Windows,  and this has gone off topic
[21:54] <{Onyx}> Would be so pwn if we could get native linux support for games.
[21:54] <eitan2> cody_: well the only choice at the bottom was "new partition" . Now the choices are "primary" or "logical", then the size, then "beginning" or "end" for location, then  fs type, then mount point
[21:54] <Mike_lifeguard> guntbert: Yes.
[21:54] <Mike_lifeguard> trism: No, it isn't :)
[21:54] <cody_> sebsebseb: Yea, very off topic haha. Most newer games are being made for: Mac, linux, and iwnodwS ^_^
[21:54] <sebsebseb> cody_: well some are only being made for games consoles now
[21:54] <nodgedodge> hi, i installed ubuntu 8.04 on my computer(some time ago) parallel to windows and after 2 times booting or so it wouldnt load the bootmanager any more and boot windows directly
[21:55] <cody_> eitan2: Okay, good. Logical is the correct choice, size 20480 for 20GB, and beginning, fs should be same as first partition, and finally ,mount point should be: "/home"
[21:55] <eitan2> cody_: location beginning or end?
[21:55] <cody_> sebsebseb: Yes, specially for PS3 ;) I love the PS3 (Too off topic now, we should get back on topic ;)
[21:55] <sebsebseb> !love > cody_
[21:55] <cody_> eitan2: End (It has to be after the / partition)
[21:55] <cody_> sebsebseb:  I dont know how to go to private message in irssi ;:P
[21:56] <cody_> :P*
[21:56] <nodgedodge> so my problem is, that i would like to access the files in my ubuntu home folder, but i cant because i m not the owner
[21:56] <The_Lord_Of_The_> we love you
[21:56] <{Onyx}> Hey cody_? You talking about major games starting to be coded with native linux support?
[21:56] <The_Lord_Of_The_> WE love ubuntu
[21:56] <epaphus> What is the best way to determine if there is a memory leak in my system?  Sometimes my applications just close unexpectly or become slow
[21:56] <trism> cody_: alt+ whatever number window the message is on
[21:56] <cody_> {Onyx}: Yes, newer ones. Games already made are not being re-written for ubuntu, likely at least
[21:56] <cody_> trism: Thanks
[21:56] <amgarchIn9> in aptitude I clicked "+" and now I think I know beter, but it still wants to upgrade a package even if I restart aptitude? How do I reset it?
[21:57] <cody_> sebsebseb: HAHAHA, that was interesting :P But funny :3
[21:57] <realize> hi
[21:57] <cody_> !love > sebsebseb
[21:57] <Ronnie> cody_: sorry do you know how to restao the normal windowed menus (File, Edit, etc.) after i've had Global-menu installed and the removed, currently my windows have no menus ant its really annoying becuse i cant change anything.
[21:57] <Ronnie> restore*
[21:57] <meatbun> how to launch screen with 4 shells opened
[21:57] <{Onyx}> cody_: Sweet, when I build my new system I was going to actually dish out money for Windows 7 just to be able to get into some gaming.
[21:57] <sebsebseb> This idea that only  the commercial games are the best games, is nonsense, there are some rather good open source games indeed out there.
[21:57] <realize> Could someone help me out with some networking issues?
[21:57] <cody_> Ronnie: Sorry, i never used global menu cause it never worked, so i dont know :(
[21:57] <realize> This is sort of my last resort before I go crazy
[21:57] <ortsvorsteher> !details | realize
[21:58] <sebsebseb> cody_: You didn't need to pm it back to me!
[21:58] <Ronnie> cody_ ok thanks,
[21:58] <cody_> {Onyx}: I would still dish money for win7, it is equal if not better then linux ;)
[21:58] <cody_> sebsebseb: HAHHA, soz :p
[21:58] <cody_> Ronnie: Your welcome
[21:58] <Ronnie> Anyone else know? >.< I really need to send an email but i need to change thesetitngs on evolution
[21:58] <{Onyx}> cody_: Will only cost me 20 bucks. I work tech support so a bunch of my buddies have subscriptions to tech net and have umpteen licences :)
[21:58] <ubuntu_> hi
[21:59] <ubuntu_> hi
[21:59] <sebsebseb> cody_: see my comment above before that also,  if you missed it
[21:59] <cody_> {Onyx}: you gotta get me one :p :) :3
[21:59] <trism> meatbun: if you have screen-profiles installed, the windows launched on startup are stored in ~/.screen-profiles/windows
[21:59] <dux70> #ubuntu-.it
[21:59] <dux70> °ubuntu-it
[21:59] <dux70> #ubuntu-it
[21:59] <{Onyx}> cody_: Need to get two for myself as is. One to dual boot/vm and one for the box I'm going to build my wife.
[21:59] <meatbun> trism, isn't there a simpler way like screen -option 4 windows
[22:00] <eitan2> cody_: question... when I had created the primary partition for / .... I asked for 8000 mb... when it created it... it turned that into 8003.... why is that?
[22:00] <cody_> sebsebseb: I just saw it, Yea, some games are pretty good i will admit :p
[22:00] <cody_> sebsebseb: Open sourcE*
[22:00] <{Onyx}> cody_: I work for HP support and we're already getting training on some of the features. Its going to rock so much more than Vista.
[22:00] <cody_> eitan2: It sometimes does that, ubuntu doesnt like even numbers i guess :p
[22:00] <sebsebseb> {Onyx}   Ideally you should not play Windows games at all, unless they are made for  Linux as well.   This is difficult for many people though, and so  how about a WII or something and play the games on that.
[22:00] <cody_> {Onyx}: It is, i know some friends who have the beta, and says it kicks vista's *** :p They had vista for like 2 years, got win7 beta, never looked back haha
[22:01] <epaphus> What is the best way to determine if there is a memory leak in my system?  Sometimes my applications just close unexpectly or become slow
[22:01] <cody_> sebsebseb: How about a PS3? :P :D
[22:01] <{Onyx}> sebseb: I don't game as is :)
[22:01] <sebsebseb> cody_: yep or that
[22:01] <trism> meatbun: well it isn't that complicated, you just add lines to the file like "screen 0 bash" "screen 1 bash", etc
[22:01] <cody_> {Onyx}: I dont often either, i played some JAK 2 though today ;) haha
[22:01] <cody_> sebsebseb: I love PS3 :3 hehe
[22:01] <Wolfcastle> is it possible to have different cpu frequencies depending on battery or AC usage?
[22:01] <sebsebseb> cody_: Xbox 360 though uh no, for obvious reasons :D
[22:01] <Wolfcastle> it's quite simple to do in KDE
[22:01] <cody_> sebsebseb: Obviosuly, xbox360 is no fun ;)
[22:02] <Ronnie> My 360 crashes allot :c
[22:02] <trism> meatbun: or whatever command you want to start for your default set of windows
[22:02] <eitan2> cody_: ok done... /dev/sda1 is ext3 mounted at / and 8003mb, /dev/sda5 is ext3 mounted at /home and 20003mb ... I have 2006 mb left as free space
[22:02] <sebsebseb> cody_: I meant  Microsoft don't need more of  our support
[22:02] <cody_> Finally! the karmic upgrade is install ing pakacges
[22:02] <sebsebseb> cody_: as in money
[22:02] <meatbun> trism, ok. just that on some machines, i don't install plugins and apps
[22:02] <realize> How Come when I check for open ports on the wan it says it doesn't work?
[22:02] <{Onyx}> I can't afford a PS3/WII/Xbox360. I'm already needing to build me a new box, one for my wife or a notebook and a server.
[22:02] <sebsebseb> cody_: and vender lock in for that matter
[22:02] <sebsebseb> !ot
[22:02] <meatbun> trism, is this in .screenrc? or profile thing is different
[22:02] <cody_> eitan2: New partition, logical, end, 2006 MB, format, set as linux-swap filesystem, and no mount point
[22:03] <cody_> sebsebseb: Yea, they dont ;)
[22:03] <WanHouse> {Onyx} Fetch "Plants Vs Zombies" Its an awesome game and works perfectly under wine. Its one of those games you can play for days nad days.
[22:03] <trism> meatbun: screen-profiles is another package in ubuntu that I think is installed with screen by default
[22:03] <WanHouse> nad/and
[22:03] <mdmcginn> The phantom virtual hostname turned out to be in my /etc/hosts file. I still wasn't able to get the new hostname to resolve until I put it into /etc/hosts.
[22:03] <cody_> WanHouse: Never even heard of that ;) Cant do ANTHINg until karmic update finishes hehe
[22:03] <nodgedodge> hi, i installed ubuntu 8.04 on my computer(some time ago) parallel to windows and after 2 times booting or so, my computer wouldnt load the bootmanager any more and boot with windows directly. so my problem is, that i would like to access the files in my ubuntu home folder, but i cant because i m not the owner
[22:04] <trism> meatbun: although if you just want more shells quickly, f2 is configured by default in ubuntu to launch a new shell, so you could just press f2 three more times after starting screen
[22:04] <cody_> nodgedodge: Access from windows?
[22:04] <nodgedodge> im using the 9.04 ubuntu demo cd right now btw
[22:04] <WanHouse> cody_: You wont regret playing it. I guarrantie it.
[22:04] <trism> meatbun: the path for the default windows is ~/.screen-profiles/windows though
[22:04] <cody_> WanHouse: okay :) I will run it soon as karmic update finishes haha
[22:04] <sebsebseb> WanHouse: Is it free as in price?  or even better as in freedom with the code available to the general public?
[22:04] <meatbun> trism, ok
[22:04] <mgmuscari> how do i list the vga modes that are available to me at boot time?
[22:04] <cody_> which is 1 hour 36 minutes roughly T_t
[22:04] <meatbun> thx
[22:05] <mgmuscari> preferably without rebooting and scanning them right after grub :D
[22:05] <eitan2> cody_: the choices are ext3 or "swap area" ... so not ext3, but "swap area" right? and why end and not beginning again? what would happen if I chose beginning?
[22:05] <nodgedodge> @cody: im using the ubuntu 9.04 cd demo right now
[22:05] <sebsebseb> nodgedodge: that's not a demo,  it's  the Live CD, but also the install CD
[22:05] <eitan2> cody_: what do end and beginning mean?
[22:05] <cody_> eitan2: yes, swap area. And truly it wouldnt matter, swap it either place, it loads it fine either way.
[22:05] <WanHouse> sebsebseb: Its a good game.
[22:05] <cody_> eitan2: Beginning and end mean: Beginning goes in FRONT of all the partitions, end goes AFTER all the partitions
[22:05] <sebsebseb> WanHouse: that didn't answer my questiosn
[22:06] <nodgedodge> @sebsebseb: yes youre right
[22:06] <WanHouse> sebsebseb: I know.
[22:06] <cody_> WanHouse: Free as in price, or free as in anyone can edit the code and redistribute it? :p
[22:06] <eitan2> cody_: ok .. hold on...
[22:06] <cody_> eitan2: Okay
[22:06] <Ronnie> cody_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=987341 :3 foudn this am gonna try it.
[22:06] <sebsebseb> cody_: plus  if it's only made for Windows at the moment, and it's opensource/freesoftware  it could be ported to Linux natively I expect :)
[22:07] <WanHouse> cody_: Its a fun game. Take it... or leave it :)
[22:07] <cody_> WanHouse: Lol okay fine :p
[22:07] <WanHouse> :)
[22:07] <cody_> Ronnie: Awesome, i hope it works :)
[22:07] <Twim4> hi all, how can i install pdf printer?
[22:07] <The_Lord_Of_The_> how to change the Ubuntu logo in the Application panel?
[22:07] <cody_> sebsebseb: Me too ;) I wish some programs that were free in price were free in source code
[22:08] <cody_> Twim4: sudo apt-get install cups-pdf
[22:08] <{Onyx}> I really wish Evolution had a setting to always try to send encrypted and if unable to locate a key send unencrypted.
[22:08] <sebsebseb> cody_: yeah a lot of Windows games stop being developed, but never become open source
[22:08] <Twim4> cody_; did it, nothing happens
[22:08] <cody_> sebsebseb: Yea, i know :(
[22:08] <cody_> Twim4: What does it do? Does it say already installed?
[22:08] <nodgedodge> so id even be happy if someone could justpoint out a link with file ownership under ubuntu
[22:08] <collimic> I am looking for a way to allow my users to skip the black list I have setup. I am using reject_rbl_client but I ahve some users that want to get all the mail and spam. Where can I go to setup a by user list to skip the checking of the rbl?
[22:09] <WanHouse> sebsebseb: DigDug was fun
[22:09] <realize> Hey, I get a dsl router attached to a wireless router attached to a server I would like to make accessible through the  internet  but for some reason when I go to this website http://www.canyouseeme.org/ and test port 80 and 22 it says the the connection timed out even though I have no firewalls running on either router or the server. It did work for me like a half an hour ago but I reset the dsl router and now NOTHING WORKS!
[22:09] <sebsebseb> WanHouse: I don't know about that game
[22:09] <WanHouse> sebsebseb: Maniac Mansion rules
[22:09] <Billiard> nodgedodge: what about file ownership
[22:09] <sebsebseb> WanHouse: or that one,  I am not a gamer
[22:09] <cody_> sebsebseb and WanHouse: BEST GAME OF ALL TIME: Civilization :D
[22:09] <eitan2> cody_: ok sda6 is swap... but it is not letting me check the "format" option
[22:09] <WanHouse> sebsebseb: Tell me about the games you played when youre younger ?
[22:10] <WanHouse> cody_: Lol, ehm... eeh... Doh! :)
[22:10] <cody_> eitan2: May be the file system, that is fine then. I didnt set up swap, ubuntu did it cause it was already set up for some reason. Just click forward or continue
[22:10] <realize> Help?
[22:10] <Billiard> realize: you have to setup port forwarding
[22:10] <cody_> WanHouse: XD I love that game, and it runs under DOSBox ;)
[22:10] <Twim4> cody_; yes it was already installed, but when i go to system -> adminisr -> printing and want to create one pdf printer the button "forward" is grey
[22:10] <realize> yeah, I did
[22:10] <sebsebseb> WanHouse: doesn't matter it's off topic now,  however if you know of any games that  are good and work natively in  Linux,  or  in Wine, and that are free,  feel free to  pm me the names
[22:10] <mgmuscari> !vga
[22:10] <sebsebseb> WanHouse: free as in price that was
[22:10] <Billiard> realize: many dsl bridges are single port switches
[22:10] <mgmuscari> !vga-modes
[22:11] <cody_> Twim4: Then do this: System 00> Administration --> Printer, make sure the PDF printer is enabled (right click it, click enabled if it was not)
[22:11] <Billiard> realize: set up port forwarding on the dsl mdoem too?
[22:11] <nodgedodge> Billiard: my problem was that: i installed ubuntu 8.04 on my computer(some time ago) parallel to windows and after 2 times booting or so, my computer wouldnt load the bootmanager any more and boot with windows directly. so my problem is, that i would like to access the files in my ubuntu home folder, but i cant because i m not the owner(im using the ubuntu 9.04 live cd right now)
[22:11] <realize> I set it the dsl router to forward to the wireless routers ip and then the wireless router would forward to the servers ip
[22:11] <realize> I'm really confuzed since I got it working at one point
[22:11] <sebsebseb> cody_: same to you,  what I said to WanHouse
[22:12] <Twim4> cody_; i havent any printers there, have to create it, but i cant
[22:12] <came0> How do I load a module in apache2?  I have mod_wsgi.so installed but I cant figure out how to load it in apache2?
[22:12] <Snicksie> hi, got a weird problem. i can't use alt-tab, super-tab and mouseclick
[22:12] <Billiard> came0 create a link in mods-enabled linking to the file in mods-available
[22:12] <WanHouse> sebsebseb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Linux_games / http://icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php / http://www.linuxgames.com
[22:12] <coz_> Snicksie,  do you by chance have compiz running with the wallpaper plugin?
[22:13] <dios_mio> Snicksie: compiz problems?
[22:13] <ichat> came0:  -  nano /etc/apache2/httpd.conf     (i i r c )
[22:13] <sebsebseb> WanHouse: ok thanks :)
[22:13] <came0> Billard:  its not in mods-available
[22:13] <Snicksie> dios_mio and coz_ i didn't change anything in my computer
[22:13] <Billiard> nodgedodge: you should be able to use sudo in the live cd i think
[22:13] <coz_> Snicksie,   mm when did this start happening?
[22:13] <came0> Billard:  and when I install it its a .so file.. not ,load or .conff
[22:13]  * realize starts pulling out lumps of hair!
[22:13] <Snicksie> coz_, few minutes ago, just stopped one useless process
[22:14] <coz_> Snicksie,  did it happen after restarting x?
[22:14] <WanHouse> Games: http://games.linux.sk/index.php?group=&sort=&count=5&pos=2
[22:14] <Twim4> cody_; oke, i reinstalled that, but on the test it sais that its faild
[22:14] <WanHouse> Hit next at the next sign
[22:14] <Joshua^^> 1st time installing ubuntu 9.04 and have a prob.
[22:14] <coz_> Snicksie,   what was the process you stopped?
[22:14] <Snicksie> to be exactly, it was whatpulse; coz_ no, i just woke up from sleep, stopped the process  whatpulse, thereafter it didn't react anymore, suppose that's the problem
[22:14] <eitan2> cody_: what is the difference between a primary partition and a logical partition?
[22:14] <Billiard> realize: your server and router have static ip's or are setup to receive the same ip?
[22:15] <WanHouse> sebsebseb: Its important to also have fun.
[22:15] <nodgedodge> Billiard: ok, thanks ill try that
[22:15] <Joshua^^> Have LiveCD and I get to the install screen then
[22:15] <Billiard> eitan you can only have 4 primary patitions, windows can only boot from a primary
[22:15] <Snicksie> coz_, isn't there anyway to start a terminal without clicking or using alt-tab?
[22:15] <Joshua^^> select install and nothing happens.
[22:15] <realize> well I've got a subnet ending in 192.168.0.X
[22:15] <quentusrex> Anyone know how to install a previous kernel image onto ubuntu?
[22:15] <coz_> Snicksie, ok I want you to restart x  ther proper way    dont do anything till you read this...first  ctrl+alt+F1  then log in then   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[22:15] <quentusrex> I need to test if it is the kernel causing a bug
[22:16] <realize> but I forward the ports with dsl router to ip 192.168.1.47
[22:16] <coz_> quentusrex,  when you log in does      grub give you the options of another kernel?
[22:16] <Billiard> quentusrex: sudo apt-get install linux-image-xxxxx
[22:16] <Snicksie> coz_, don't think that will be the problem, i wanna try to kill whatpulse first, because i don't wanna loose my programs (didn't save everything)
[22:16] <Joshua^^> cd light is on (CD is spinning). The screen is still on the install screen.
[22:16] <coz_> Snicksie,   oh ok
[22:16] <realize> dsl router > wifi router 192.168.1.47 > 192.168.0.10
[22:17] <coz_> Snicksie,  what is this whatpulse  thing?
[22:18] <Snicksie> coz_, it counts keystrokes and mousestrokes, so i suppose that's the problem. when i'd killed the process, it wouldn't be a problem i suppose, i suppos two ways to clear problem will be unstop whatpulse or taskkill it
[22:18] <coz_> Snicksie,  or uninstall it
[22:18] <realize> oh thats weird I just tried to access the the the defualt "it works" page and it didn't work
[22:18] <Snicksie> coz_, i can't click, so can't get to terminal, can't taskkill it and so on
[22:19] <coz_> Snicksie,   so you cant save anything either?
[22:19] <Snicksie> coz_, no, cause i can't use alt-tab or click or sth like that
[22:19] <coz_> Snicksie, I dont see another alterntive then but to restart x
[22:19] <bond> hi all
[22:20] <Sander1> Hey all
[22:20] <Snicksie> weird problem however coz_, won't it be possible by the way to kill it trough ctrl-alt-f1?
[22:20] <black> hi
[22:20] <bond> how i can deactivate my capslock bytton? :)
[22:20] <swabedor> hi everyone!
[22:20] <realize> ARGGG! it works
[22:20] <bond> u*
[22:20] <coz_> Snicksie,  well that is certainly possible     you can try sudo killall whatpulse
[22:20] <Snicksie> that's what i'd like to do coz_ :)
[22:20] <realize> the server wasn't connected to router!!!
[22:20] <Snicksie> hopefully be right back :)
[22:20] <Sander1> Any1 knows how i can downlaad and install DDO ?
[22:21] <coz_> Snicksie,  if that works then just hit ctrl+alt+F7 Ibelieve
[22:21] <sebsebseb>  
[22:21] <Sander1> on LInux
[22:21]  * realize slaps himself with floppy fish
[22:21] <swabedor> can anyone help me?
[22:21] <axisys> anyone can help me with my wifi? i get these Oct 16 17:09:01 ghar-iqbala kernel: [ 6356.904173] usb 3-1: USB disconnect, address 7usb related messages when turn off and on the wifi radio button.. very odd!
[22:21] <sebsebseb> !ask |  swabedor
[22:21] <axisys> Oct 16 17:09:08 ghar-iqbala kernel: [ 6363.976230] usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 8
[22:21] <axisys> Oct 16 17:09:08 ghar-iqbala kernel: [ 6364.142593] usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[22:21] <coz_> swabedor,  wah is the problem ?
[22:21] <axisys> oops!
[22:21] <swabedor> i get this "Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds.  If you have not logged out yourself, this could mean that there is some installation problem or that you may be out of diskspace.  Try logging in with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix this problem."
[22:21] <swabedor> oh ok sorry
[22:21] <Snicksie> coz_, still doesn't work i suppose, but perhaps have to do it w/out sudo, i'll see
[22:21] <bond> people! )
[22:21] <coz_> swabedor,  did you stop the system or restart x  just after login?
[22:22] <bond> help me too :)
[22:22] <coz_> Snicksie,  try it
[22:22] <swabedor> nope
[22:22] <axisys> any idea why I get these error messages http://pastebin.com/f26a1000d when turn off/on my wifi radio button.. this is my new laptop hp 6730b w/ jaunty
[22:22] <sebsebseb> !ask | bond
[22:22] <bond> sebsebseb ...
[22:22] <bond> see ^^^^
[22:22] <coz_> swabedor,  ok  either restart the system or restart x properly with ctlr+alt+F1  then login then   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[22:22] <sebsebseb> bond: no since I just re joined
[22:22] <Snicksie> coz_, i already did yet, however whatpulse still exists, isn't there a command to un-stop a program?
[22:22] <dmpjk> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/beta/ubuntu-9.10-beta-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[22:23] <bond> sebsebseb how i can deactivate capslockin GNOME? :)
[22:23] <dmpjk> please seed
[22:23] <Sander1> How can i download and install DDO (exe.)
[22:23] <Sander1> ?
[22:23] <sebsebseb> !karmic |  dmpjk
[22:23] <swabedor> k thanks
[22:23] <Sander1> it is a game DDO
[22:23] <coz_> Snicksie,   off hand I cant think of another way however  you might be able to uninstall whatpulse via the console
[22:23] <coz_> Snicksie,  if you still have the source package or you installed with deb package
[22:23] <Sander1> dungeon & dragon :P
[22:23] <sebsebseb> !wine | Sander1
[22:24] <bond> sebsebseb any idea?
[22:24] <Sander1> i HVa e install WIne
[22:24] <Sander1> but i cant download it in WIne
[22:24] <Snicksie> coz_, it's not an install at all, just a run-at-once program. i'm already trying to google for it
[22:24] <sebsebseb> bond: I coudn't see what you asked since I had to re join here
[22:24] <iceroot> Sander1: donwload the exe with firefox and run the exe with wine
[22:24] <sebsebseb> bond: plus it probably won't be in the public channel log yet also
[22:25] <tundrayeti311> Does anyone know of a program or nautilius option that would let me right click in a folder and do a "Open terminal at this location" type of thing?
[22:25] <Sander1> okej i wil try :P
[22:25] <gOLDfeesh> is there a reason as to why I can't use bitpim with my phone? I don't know if it's a USB / udev issue but lsusb works and finds my phone
[22:25] <Sander1> ow and another question
[22:25] <Sander1> i have music if i play a cd
[22:25] <bj0rn2> firefox UI doesn't use gnome system font settings.. (afaik) anyone know if this has been fixed in karmic or if there is a workaround?
[22:25] <Sander1> but if i listening some music on the internet i dont have musci
[22:26] <Sander1> music
[22:26] <Sander1> (sound)
[22:27] <iceroot> Sander1: only no sound with flash? or any apps? like hearing mp3, watching dvd movies and so on
[22:27] <wilbefast> Help! I killed alsa :o
[22:28] <wilbefast> now I have no sound
[22:28] <tonii> relog
[22:28] <iceroot> wilbefast: killed like killall alsa? or killed like configed to death?
[22:28] <coz_> wilbefast,   sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart   maybe
[22:28] <wilbefast> iceroot - I tried to update it: http://www.stchman.com/alsa_update.html
[22:28] <Billiard> gOLDfeesh: if its a permissions issue you could try sudo
[22:29] <wilbefast> but the script did something nasty :S
[22:29] <Sander1> I only havnt sound on youtube
[22:29] <iceroot> Sander1: so only no sound with flash
[22:29] <iceroot> !flash | Sander1
[22:29] <wilbefast> I need to figure out how to reinstall the whole thing only trying to reinstall the packages with Synaptic does nothing :(
[22:29] <coz_> Sander1,  open a terminal   type    alsamixer  and see if any slider is off or muted
[22:30] <Sander1> okej
[22:30] <iceroot> wilbefast: dpkg-reconfigure packagename
[22:30] <Sander1> thnx
[22:30] <iceroot> wilbefast: sudo dpkg-reconfigure packagename
[22:30] <coz_> Sander1,  what this working before?
[22:30] <KristianDK> Hello! Is it possible to disable "ls" in /home?
[22:30] <wilbefast> right, which one to reinstall...
[22:30] <iceroot> KristianDK: why?
[22:30] <Billiard> KristianDK: for other users?
[22:31] <pepperjack> KristianDK: chmod 700 $HOME
[22:31] <KristianDK> Billiard,  yes-  for normal users :)
[22:31] <iceroot> KristianDK: and what about dir?
[22:31] <KristianDK> pepperjack, then the users cant access their folders, right? :S
[22:31] <iceroot> KristianDK: or vi /home/ tab tab?
[22:31] <wilbefast> btw: "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory"
[22:31] <pepperjack> KristianDK: no $HOME will be like /home/KristianDK.  I wasnt screwing with you..this time
[22:32] <pepperjack> KristianDK: basically makes it readable only for the owner
[22:32] <KristianDK> pepperjack, nice :) but will it prevent showing the other users in /home/ ?
[22:32] <wilbefast> iceroot: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base" didn't do a whole lot, should I reboot again?
[22:33] <iceroot> KristianDK: cat /etc/passwd  will show you other users
[22:33] <pepperjack> KristianDK: no.  try this 1) touch testfile   2) ls -l   3) chmod 700 testfile  4) ls -l
[22:33] <iceroot> KristianDK: you can only force them only to use ther own home with chroot
[22:33] <pepperjack> KristianDK: note on the second ls that you do not have r--   on the left but for the very left column (owner)
[22:33] <iceroot> KristianDK: or to see other users
[22:33] <Sander1> but i wanna downloa DDO (dungeon and dragons) and install it
[22:33] <iceroot> Sander1: then download it
[22:34] <wilbefast> :'(
[22:34] <bazhang> Sander1, is this a commercial game or a free one
[22:34] <KristianDK> pepperjack, i'll just play around with it
[22:34] <KristianDK> iceroot, why so negative? ;)
[22:34] <Sander1> http://www.ddo.com/ddosupport/download-ddo
[22:34] <carter> If anyone can help: for reasons unknown, gnome stopped working after reboot.  I get only a black screen and cannot ctl-alt-F1 into terminal.  Cannot get it to work with safe graphics mode.  I have nvidia cards, but changed to "nv" driver in xorg.conf with no success.  Tried to dpkg-reconfigure xserver with no success.  Tried to re-install ubuntu desktop (no dice).  Have RTFMd and STFWd without joy.  Any suggestions?  Thanks in advanc
[22:34] <Sander1> a free one
[22:34] <Sander1> i guess
[22:34] <iceroot> KristianDK: because you cant deny access to other homes or to see other users :)
[22:35] <iceroot> KristianDK: without chroot
[22:35] <wilbefast> I just need to wipe the slate clean and start again - reinstall seems to do nothing whatsoever
[22:35] <Sander1> i cant download it because i dont know how with ububtu
[22:35] <wilbefast> maybe I should uninstall and then reinstall manually
[22:35] <black> hi all
[22:35] <Snicksie> coz_, got it fixed :D killed it by kill -cont processid which i found with ps -u name
[22:35] <Sander1> :P
[22:35] <iceroot> Sander1: use firefox like in windows
[22:35] <Sander1> how...?
[22:35] <coz_> Snicksie,  very cool :)
[22:35] <Sander1> :)
[22:35] <iceroot> Sander1: typing the url into firefox?
[22:36] <bazhang> Sander1, click the first link, then submit the necessary registration information
[22:36] <KristianDK> iceroot, but i guess if i let my users run in chroot, they will have root priveleges, right?
[22:36] <iceroot> KristianDK: no
[22:36] <wilbefast> :(
[22:36] <iceroot> KristianDK: chroot = changedroot  not root-access
[22:37] <MyNameIsRetro> Hi, I'm having issues with preseeding the console-setup package on Hardy Heron: I did a "debconf-get-selections >preseed.txt" on my source system, then a "debconf-set-selections <preseed.txt" on my target system Since I ended up with a U.S. keyboard setting after installation, I repeated "debconf-set-selections <preseed.txt" and did a "dpkg-reconfigure console-setup". That didn't help, however. What's worse, 
[22:37] <iceroot> !chroot
[22:37] <wilbefast> guys, I really need help with this - I can't remove alsa without removing Ubuntu Desktop which sounds like a reasonably drastic thing to be doing
[22:37] <Sander1> i have done the registration
[22:37] <KristianDK> nice :) is it possible to use this chroot so that the users get it, when they connect via SSH?
[22:37] <wilbefast> just because I have no sound
[22:38] <iceroot> KristianDK: but just life with it that others can use ls on /home
[22:38] <iceroot> KristianDK: yes
[22:38] <bazhang> wilbefast, ubuntu-desktop package is just a metapackage, it can be safely removed
[22:38] <Sander1> but i downlad it and he saves it in download
[22:38] <mgv2> skype downloaded just in their website?
[22:38] <Sander1> and then ?
[22:38] <Sander1> what do i need to do then :P
[22:38] <wilbefast> okay then...
[22:38] <iceroot> Sander1: click the exe
[22:38] <Sander1> ?
[22:39] <KristianDK> iceroot, do you know something like a tutorial for setting this up?
[22:39] <iceroot> Sander1: everything like in windows
[22:39] <bazhang> Sander1, configure wine then run it
[22:39] <iceroot> KristianDK: jailproject is a good projekt for that. have a look at google for it, dont have any links
[22:39] <trism> Sander1: if you read the entry for ddo in the wine appdb, there is more stuff you need to do to properly run and play the game on linux
[22:39] <Turbolinux> Hello everyone. I am planning to buy a Toshiba netbook computer. Is it compatible with Ubuntu?
[22:39] <hvgotcodes> when connected to my network wirelessly it takes  a ton of time to download anything -- is there any way to see if some config is messed up?
[22:39] <wilbefast> whoa... okay then...
[22:40] <iceroot> Turbolinux: there are many toshiba netbook computers out there
[22:40] <Sander1> like ?
[22:40] <arthurjohnson> Turbolinux: It should be, what model are you looking to pick up?
[22:40] <bazhang> Sander1, check the appdb
[22:40] <iceroot> !appdb | Sander1
[22:40] <trism> Sander1: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=2910
[22:40] <trism> Sander1: like, go read it, too long to type here
[22:40] <FiReSTaRT> hvgotcodes: that should not be an issue.. it could be that your provider is throttling... bell canada, rogers and comcast are some of the regular culprits in north america
[22:41] <FiReSTaRT> hvgotcodes: verizon could be doing it too, especially if it's p2p
[22:41] <Sander1> sure thnx all :P
[22:41] <Sander1> i will read it
[22:41] <hvgotcodes> FiReSTaRT, no its just eh wireless connection
[22:41] <wilbefast> I hope I'm not in the processing of deleting my IDE... :S
[22:41] <hvgotcodes> it takes it about a minute to load gmail
[22:41] <wilbefast> I mean ... DE
[22:41] <mgv2> why does totem gets closed slow as other programs do/?
[22:42] <FiReSTaRT> hvgotcodes: could be something to do with your router... my ubuntu box is squeezing everything my link has to offer
[22:42] <Turbolinux> iceroot and arthurjohnson, the model what I want is NB200 or another model in this series.
[22:42] <FiReSTaRT> anyways i'm going offline.. l8r and good luck :0
[22:42] <wilbefast> Still no sound
[22:42] <puff> I'm trying to get started wtih pidgin and googletalk.
[22:42] <wilbefast> still getting alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[22:42] <hvgotcodes> FiReSTaRT, is there way to check to see if its on hte ubuntu end -- i was messing with jaunty backports when this happened
[22:42] <puff> It appears to be connected, but when I send a message I get a 404.
[22:42] <wilbefast> gah :-O
[22:42] <puff> I've never used an IM client before, so I may be missing something obvious.
[22:43] <hvgotcodes> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1440.900/1609.659/1778.419/168.764 ms, pipe 2
[22:43] <hvgotcodes> i mean, look at those times
[22:43] <wilbefast> this is really really bad
[22:43] <wilbefast> and I'm talking to myself
[22:43] <bigtom21485> help i cant get my amd64 sound drivers to work
[22:43] <eitan2> cody_: thank you.... I think that's all I needed for now
[22:43] <wilbefast> going to try restarting
[22:43] <ircleuser> hello
[22:43] <pistyman> omg i am stupid
[22:43] <mgv2> does anyone uses skype? is it safe by meaning of simple hacker resistent?
[22:43] <FiReSTaRT> hvgotcodes: just try downloading from the same source via a wifi connection on a windows box.. if it's significantly faster you know it's an ubuntu issue
[22:43] <wilbefast> like anyone cares :(
[22:43] <FiReSTaRT> but i doubt it
[22:43] <ircleuser> can someone help me for a minute
[22:43] <FiReSTaRT> k im outta here
[22:43] <FiReSTaRT> l8ah
[22:43] <FloodBot3> FiReSTaRT: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:43] <iceroot> Turbolinux: google says everything is working out of the box but not the wifi
[22:44]  * cxo has an Oh-oh
[22:44] <iceroot> Turbolinux: maybe have a look ath the ubuntu-forums
[22:44] <ircleuser> I keep downloading ubuntu and i believe it's giving me the windows iso
[22:44] <pistyman> http://linux.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=linux&cdn=compute&tm=66&f=00&su=p284.9.336.ip_p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=1&zu=http%3A//icculus.org/neverball/
[22:44] <ircleuser> i want the mac iso
[22:44] <pistyman> how do i install this game?!
[22:44] <iceroot> ircleuser: what?
[22:44] <FiReSTaRT> wtf.. FloodBot3 on crack :P
[22:44] <hvgotcodes> anyone else on how to check to make sure my networking is configured properly?
[22:44] <bazhang> ircleuser, did you have an ubuntu support issue
[22:44] <Billiard> ircleuser: there is no mac or windows iso, just an iso
[22:45] <ircleuser> oh
[22:45] <ircleuser> virtuabox doesn't seem to recognize the iso
[22:45] <ircleuser> it won't let me select it
[22:45] <iceroot> ircleuser: but there are isos for ppc (old macs), x86, x86_64 and maybe IA
[22:45] <dios_mio> ubuntu firefox 3.5 is messed up in its right click menus!!!
[22:45] <bazhang> ircleuser, what is the host
[22:45] <nodgedodge> Billiard: Hi, I tried "kdesudo mv foo bar" but the terminal just tells me: "failed to preserve ownership for 'foo': Operation not permitted"
[22:45] <matteo1990> hi, I have a lg 42 inch tv with RGB in and an Amilo 1505 laptop wit ubuntu 9.04. If i connect them i can see the tv on the screen manager but i get no image on the tv... Anyone can help me?
[22:45] <ircleuser> osx snow loepard
[22:46] <iceroot> nodgedodge: sudo mv foo bar
[22:46] <arthurjohnson> Turbolinux: I sent you a msg on what I found, but here it is for the channel: http://is.gd/4mXYG
[22:46] <cxo> dios_mio, i have to click on the shirtiko (or however its called) icon like 10 times before it opens
[22:46] <bazhang> ircleuser, sounds like a corrupt iso check the md5
[22:46] <iceroot> kdesudo is for kde-apps, gksudo for gnome-apps
[22:46] <bazhang> !md5 | ircleuser
[22:46] <dios_mio> cxo.. its a mess... one time it showed me all the possible right click menus added up together in one huge menu... and another time it showed me the right click menu for links for just about anything (images, highlted text)
[22:46] <wilbefast> nope - still no sound
[22:47] <wilbefast> seriously, nobody's is going to help me out?
[22:47] <dios_mio> wilbefast: did you try alsaconf ?
[22:47] <wilbefast> *nobody is
[22:47] <cxo> dios_mio, i suggest if you really want the extra +0.5, get the generic tarball from the mozilla website and use that instead of the one from the ubuntu repo
[22:47] <realize> hi, I have a server that I would like to access when Im not home. I was able to set it up with port forwarding so now I can test the port. So far it all works. The only problem is the wan ip changes because of the dsl router and the I can't reach the server if I'm outside of the home network
[22:47] <iceroot> wilbefast: nobody cant help you
[22:47] <dios_mio> cxo: , good idea
[22:47] <wilbefast> iceroot - that's encouraging
[22:47] <iceroot> wilbefast: you have manualy instaled something which will break the system
[22:47] <hvgotcodes> how would i fix ridiculously slow wireless networking?  other computers on the network have no issues
[22:47] <iceroot> wilbefast: noone knows what you have done
[22:48] <realize> I also don't know if the wan IP is the ip that I can access the server on. Is it?
[22:48] <wilbefast> iceroot - then you wipe everything and start again
[22:48] <Turbolinux> What manufancturer and model is best for using netbook computer for Linux?
[22:48] <wilbefast> no rocket science
[22:48] <snappo> realize: dyndns?
[22:48] <puff> hvgotcodes: Try rebooting?
[22:48] <wilbefast> I just can't figure out how
[22:48] <matteo1990> hi, I have a lg 42 inch tv with RGB in and an Amilo 1505 laptop wit ubuntu 9.04. If i connect them i can see the tv on the screen manager but i get no image on the tv... Anyone can help me?
[22:48] <wilbefast> dios_mio trying alsa_conf...
[22:48] <realize> I have torrent flux up and running on the server but I have no idea how I can access when I'm not on the home network
[22:48] <puff> matteo1990: Often, laptops have some special key combination to turn on the video-out.
[22:48] <dios_mio> wilbefast: alsaconf
[22:49] <puff> matteo1990: That's the case with my thinkpad, for example.
[22:49] <wilbefast> yeah that one
[22:49] <puff> matteo1990: Or you may need to close the lid to get video out on.
[22:49]  * benpro bye all
[22:49] <Mene-Mene> Hello, when scrolling we pages I oftentimes use the scroll button, but in Ubuntu whenever I use a single click of the mouse wheel it scrolls a massive number of lines. How do I control the sensitivity of the mouse wheel?
[22:50] <wilbefast> dios_mio : I think iceroot may have a point - something seriously wrong in here
[22:50] <dios_mio> wilbefast: , just try another distro man
[22:50] <wise> Hello... The enter button on my keyboard doesn't work... I'm using xmodmap -e "keycode 62 = KP_Enter", and it kets my Rshift work as enter what is fine... but I want that command to run on startup
[22:50] <wilbefast> modinfo: could not open /lib/modules/2.6.28-15-generic/kernel/sound/core/snd.ko:
[22:51] <wilbefast> dios_mio: this one worked fine, until I ran and script and royally screwed it over
[22:51] <pistyman> who will help me..
[22:51] <wilbefast> does ubuntu not have any method for recovering?
[22:51] <zaoul> wilbefast: yes
[22:51] <zaoul> wilbefast: just boot off the cd
[22:52] <hvgotcodes> what should i see when i type route?
[22:52] <pistyman> who can help me to install this game?
[22:52] <wise> does anybody know how to set an auto command on startup which will effect all users before log-in??
[22:52] <cxo> pistyman, apt-get install neverball
[22:52] <wilbefast> Zaoul - hmmm: good idea, I have a usb...
[22:52] <zaoul> hvgotcodes: a routing table
[22:53] <lord_of_computi1> I have a video card problem with the Ubuntu, anyone?
[22:53] <zaoul> pistyman: JUST ASK
[22:53] <zaoul> can we put in the topic JUST ASK plz?
[22:53] <hvgotcodes> zaoul, gee thanx -- what about, what can be in there that would slow down my wireless
[22:53] <cxo> he asked way back
[22:53] <hvgotcodes> ?
[22:53] <cxo> you guys didnt notice
[22:53] <cxo> he wants to install neverball
[22:54] <wilbefast> right, I'm going to flash-boot and (hopefully) not lose everything
[22:54] <pistyman> i asked dude
[22:54] <pistyman> nobody answers
[22:54] <wilbefast> back ups first
[22:54] <zaoul> hvgotcodes: do a tracepath google.com
[22:54] <pistyman> http://linux.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ&zTi=1&sdn=linux&cdn=compute&tm=66&f=00&su=p284.9.336.ip_p504.1.336.ip_&tt=2&bt=0&bts=1&zu=http%3A//icculus.org/neverball/
[22:54] <pistyman> here is the game
[22:54] <wilbefast> what do you need to install?
[22:54] <pistyman> i donwloaded is and it doesnt work
[22:54] <pistyman> i cant install the mofo
[22:54] <zaoul> hvgotcodes: or wait.. not google
[22:54] <cxo> pistyman, apt-get install neverball
[22:54] <KnifeySpooney> Hey, I recently converted my brother to Ubuntu. He likes it but he has one major gripe -- a few of his Java games which play in fullscreen do not display correctly when in fullscreen. The gnome-panels are still present when in Java's fullscreen. Is there any way to hide the panels when games like Runescape and kickabout are in fullscreen?
[22:54] <lord_of_computi1> SiS760 and linux. any solution till date, guys?
[22:55] <zaoul> hvgotcodes: do tracepath myspace.com
[22:55] <hvgotcodes> zaoul, i am currently plugged in so it will be fast
[22:55] <Billiard> pistyman: install that game from the package manager
[22:55] <wilbefast> pistyman or application > add/remove > search for "nverball"
[22:55] <pistyman> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[22:55] <pistyman> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[22:55] <zaoul> hvgotcodes: well your best bet would be to trace first and see where the bottleneck 'could' be.. you are sure its a routing issue?
[22:55] <cxo> I'm doing a 9.04 update-manager -d to 9.10 beta and its stuck on post-installation-trigger-tex-common and its gone black and white on me
[22:55] <hvgotcodes> zaoul, what am i looking for
[22:56] <RainyLithuanian> I wish to complain
[22:56] <hvgotcodes> zaoul, yes i am pretty sure it is ubuntu related
[22:56] <erUSUL> cxo: ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:56] <zaoul> hvgotcodes: you have a basic mode - router/access point -- laptop setup?
[22:56] <hvgotcodes> zaoul, other boxes on this network are fine
[22:56] <zaoul> hvgotcodes: modem
[22:56] <hvgotcodes> zaggynl_, fios
[22:56] <pistyman> about what? )
[22:56] <cxo> RainyLithuanian, Wishes are 1c each
[22:56] <hvgotcodes> zaoul, fios
[22:56] <steven_> Ok, I'm real new to Ubuntu. The problem I'm having is last night I did an update through the update manager and now my streaming audio willnot work I'm currently running 9.04 64-bit.
[22:56] <pistyman> lol i was in lithuania )
[22:57] <RainyLithuanian> pistyman, I am lithuanian, but now in cambridge
[22:57] <pistyman> lol really?
[22:57] <pistyman> how the heck did you manage that?
[22:57] <RainyLithuanian> well, i wonder, maybe my host gives that away
[22:57] <zaoul> hvgotcodes:  You generally want something like this in there default         10.11.0.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[22:57] <Wally> Greetings
[22:57] <RainyLithuanian> pistyman, manage what?
[22:58] <pistyman> to get into cambridge
[22:58] <hvgotcodes> zaoul, http://paste.ubuntu.com/294997/
[22:58] <wilbefast> zaoul - will I lose all my files if I repair from a usb?
[22:58] <pistyman> if you foreign
[22:58] <Wally> Hi Wally2
[22:58] <hvgotcodes> that is my route table when i wasnt plugged in
[22:58] <wilbefast> what should I be backing up?
[22:58] <RainyLithuanian> pistyman, international olympiads in physics/maths
[22:58] <RainyLithuanian> do help
[22:58] <pistyman> wow )
[22:58] <Wally> might I suggest you change your nick Wally, Wally1 and Wally2
[22:58] <pistyman> brainy guy
[22:58] <zaoul> hvgotcodes: looks fine
[22:58] <Wally> Wally2 is fine I think
[22:59] <pistyman> well when i was there i just got fully wasted with the russian community )
[22:59] <hvgotcodes> three wlan0 entries is fine?
[22:59] <RainyLithuanian> pistyman, I could have guessed that
[22:59] <bazhang> !ot | pistyman RainyLithuanian
[22:59] <zaoul> hvgotcodes: yeah
[22:59] <hvgotcodes> zaoul, well what else could it be?  i know next to nothing about networking...
[23:00] <pistyman> yeah.. godo holiday..
[23:00] <pistyman> good-
[23:00] <zaoul> hvgotcodes: what chan you on? ... iwlist wlan0 frequency
[23:00] <preecher> in ubuntu how can i update pidgen so it has cam support
[23:00] <KnifeySpooney> Hey, I recently converted my brother to Ubuntu. He likes it but he has one major gripe -- a few of his Java games which play in fullscreen do not display correctly when in fullscreen. The gnome-panels are still present when in Java's fullscreen. Is there any way to hide the panels when games like Runescape and kickabout are in fullscreen?
[23:00] <hvgotcodes> zaoul, 6
[23:00] <RainyLithuanian> ok, well as for ubuntu support, to make my external monitor work, I do have to manually change virtual display resolution in xorg.conf, which is annoying, since If I want to pivot, I have to significantly rise it and then video card gets somehow overcharged with work
[23:00] <pistyman> chicks there are hot but belrus has better pussy
[23:01] <bazhang> pistyman, that is not appropriate for here. Please stop NOW
[23:01] <pistyman> ) i doubt there are any women in here
[23:01] <zaoul> hvgotcodes: that should be the best one, you could try others. Has it always been fast and this just happened recently?
[23:01] <hvgotcodes> zaoul, just recently
[23:02] <hvgotcodes> i had some backport repos enabled, which i disabled, but that might have messed it up
[23:02] <preecher> is there a command to use in terminal to update pidgen
[23:02] <frog> hi, is there something like global spell checker? i mean one for many(all?) applications ?
[23:03] <zaoul> hvgotcodes:  paste me up the iwconfig wlan0
[23:03] <bazhang> pistyman, stay on topic and follow the code of conduct
[23:03] <pistyman> but i'll stop since nobody is interested
[23:03] <bazhang> !coc > pistyman
[23:04] <pistyman> okok i got it.. geez
[23:04]  * Wally pats bazhang 
[23:04] <steven_> Is anyone willing to help a new Ubuntu user?
[23:04] <hvgotcodes> zaoul, http://paste.ubuntu.com/295002/
[23:04] <Billiard> steven_: with what?
[23:05] <violet523> whats a good openssh client?
[23:05] <pistyman> well i still cant install my game
[23:05] <steven_> After an update last night I lost the ability to run streaming audio
[23:05] <bigtom21485> (!)
[23:05] <bazhang> pistyman, sure you can; sudo apt-get install neverball
[23:05] <RainyLithuanian> ok, so can anyone explain me how virtual resolution is used by the machine?
[23:05] <puff> violet523: openssh?
[23:05] <violet523> puff: like a secure telnet clint?
[23:05] <pistyman> WOOO!
[23:05] <puff> violet523: Yeah, openssh is a good open ssh client :-)
[23:06] <puff> violet523: I'm not sure what you're asking.
[23:06] <RainyLithuanian> cause it seems like the machine is emulating whole virtual resulotion at once and then chopping some parts into different screens
[23:06] <puff> violet523: Open a gnome terminal window, type "ssh username@hostname" and hit enter.
[23:06] <RainyLithuanian> and if you disable monitor, then it is not disabled virtually
[23:06] <RainyLithuanian> or at least does not affect performance
[23:06] <violet523> puff: i thought that was its name bu it doesn't seemed to be installed on this box... ah thats must be it
[23:07] <zaoul> hvgotcodes: what is your base for slow net? www?
[23:07] <mikobuntu> preecher ,no command to just update pidgin, you will prob have to install the latest source from here http://www.pidgin.im/
[23:07] <puff> steven_: I sympathize;  probably part of why you're not getting any answers is that those sorts of problems are a pain to sort out.
[23:07] <pistyman> no offence to anybody.. but why use ubuntu when windows is so much better?
[23:07] <zaoul> hvgotcodes: firefox?
[23:07] <puff> violet523: Odd.
[23:07] <zaoul> pistyman: what?
[23:07] <hvgotcodes> zaoul, firefox, ping, chromium
[23:07] <bazhang> pistyman, last warning
[23:07] <pistyman> i said no offence
[23:07] <steven_> How do I reverse the update?
[23:07] <zaoul> pistyman: ever heard of package management?
[23:07] <hvgotcodes> zaoul, apt-get was geting 25 bytes a second
[23:07] <zaoul> pistyman: package management is the determining factor
[23:07] <pistyman> no i havnt heard of it
[23:07] <zaoul> pistyman: apt-get?
[23:08] <puff> violet523: openssh-client should already be installed.
[23:08] <violet523> puff: oh i forgot to setup the server, i think thats why the connection was refused. thank you for still helpsin
[23:08] <Arelis> I'm on a Mac Mini with an Intel GMA 950 video card. It gives rather poor perfomance, much poorer than it did on Mac OS X. What are to correct drivers?
[23:08] <Wally> Reinstall mac O SX?
[23:08] <Guest34776> hii am new with ubuntu
[23:08] <RainyLithuanian> pistyman, because some modelling programs are specifically designed for linux, then because of stability, beter multi-user enviroment, because of communism
[23:08] <puff> violet523: You're welcome.
[23:08] <Arelis> Wally, I still have it, it's a dual-boot :)
[23:08] <Wally> xD
[23:08] <pistyman> communism??
[23:08] <Wally> wouldn't it work better in a VM?
[23:08] <bazhang> RainyLithuanian, that is not helpful
[23:09] <bazhang> !intel | Arelis
[23:09] <zaoul> hvgotcodes: You try any other channels? the noise level is quite high
[23:09] <puff> pistyman: There are a number of reasons to prefer touse linux, starting with the fact that it doesn't crash nearly as much.
[23:09] <RainyLithuanian> bazhang, well, I just expressed package manager idea as communism
[23:09] <RainyLithuanian> since that basically are isomorphic
[23:09] <hvgotcodes> zaoul, but why would it start all of a sudden?
[23:09] <puff> pistyman:  And it's not nearly as much of a resource hog.
[23:09] <Guest34776> ALguno de ustedes Habla espanol
[23:09] <Wally> oh right... you guys use TRIGGERS.
[23:09] <hvgotcodes> zaoul, and not affect the other computer
[23:09] <bazhang> Guest34776, #ubuntu-es por espanol
[23:10] <zaoul> hvgotcodes: you have another wireless computer?
[23:10] <hvgotcodes> zaoul, yes
[23:10] <Guest34776> thanks
[23:10] <puff> pistyman: Additionally, some people don't like being told not to look under the hood.  The ubuntu car dosn't come iwth the hood welded shut.
[23:10] <hvgotcodes> zaoul, windows box upstairs, connected wirelessly
[23:10] <zaoul> hvgotcodes: are the iwconfig outputs the same when they are next to each other?
[23:10] <Wally> gee guys cheer up.
[23:10] <puff> pistyman: Finally, Microsoft and similar companies have a tendency to encroach upon their customers' rights.  The Linux world is a counter-tendency.
[23:10] <hvgotcodes> zaoul, would windows have iwconfig?
[23:10]  * Wally offers CAKE!
[23:10] <violet523> alright now that ive installed opensshd so hopefully when i try for lke the eightyith time to get this geforce 5200 to work properly with 3d support
[23:11] <zaoul> hvgotcodes:  har my bad.. uhh
[23:11] <bazhang> Wally, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:11] <zaoul> hvgotcodes: im looking at the bitrate, signal level and noise level
[23:11] <Wally> pfft.
[23:11] <Wally> The internet, is serious business
[23:11] <zaoul> hvgotcodes: deff a pro since your at 1Mb/s it should say 54 if you are on G
[23:11] <zaoul> prob
[23:11] <puff> pistyman: And finally, a great deal of the internet was invented on unix and later linux, because it supports sophisticated technical development better.
[23:12] <hvgotcodes> zaoul, i think i messed something up with the backports
[23:12] <zaoul> hvgotcodes:  anything in dmesg?
[23:12] <mavity> o/
[23:12] <mavity> hello
[23:12] <zaoul> hvgotcodes: what sort of card? Maybe you have the wrong module for it?
[23:13] <zaoul> hvgotcodes: I would start looking into the drivers of the card, and making sure the signal/noise levels are up to par
[23:13] <hvgotcodes> zaoul, again, it was working like a champ for months
[23:13] <hvgotcodes> i see a lot of wlan0 output but no errors
[23:13] <mavity> does wine work well with windows games?
[23:13] <dagb> anyone here using a BenQ G2400W with HDMI? I have an issue with DPMS over HDMI, which intel blames on the monitor.
[23:13] <bazhang> mavity, check the appdb for your particular game
[23:14] <zaoul> mavity: check winehq.org and the winedb
[23:14] <bazhang> !appdb > mavity
[23:14] <hvgotcodes> zaoul, http://paste.ubuntu.com/295007/
[23:15] <zaoul> hvgotcodes: you try any other channels?
[23:15] <zaoul> hvgotcodes: other theory is a third party interference
[23:15] <mavity> do i just type !appdb in the shell prompt?
[23:15] <zaoul> no you go to www.winehq.org
[23:16] <hvgotcodes> zaoul, thanx for the help, will try other channels later, need to go
[23:16] <zaoul> me too
[23:16] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org visit that site mavity
[23:16] <zaoul> peace
[23:16] <mavity> oh bazhang comfused me
[23:16] <wise> Does anybody know how to run a command "xmodmap - e "keycode 62 = KP_Enter""  on startup BEFORE login?
[23:16] <gOLDfeesh> Anyone here have bitpim working with USB? I can't get it to work.  there's no support channel and I know that there's SOME people here use it .
[23:17] <mavity> i just downloaded wine from the database but i dont see it on my gui applications lists
[23:17] <unique> hello, im trying to "mount -t auto" my partition but it would mount.. any ideas what i should do?
[23:18] <phr_> hmm, i think my disk is having problems, is there some place other than dmesg where error messages would appear?
[23:18] <Billiard> unique: what is the error?
[23:18] <vlt> unique: What does `vol_id /your/block/device` say?
[23:19] <_hey_> seems like this is the most social channel in freenode
[23:19] <William-Ubuntu> hi, i want to change the number of the file listed in places -> recent documents ?
[23:19] <William-Ubuntu> how can i do it?
[23:19] <unique> Billiard: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock etc..
[23:19] <AmyTek> hi, need help with pppd
[23:19] <vlt> phr_: No. If it isn't in dmesg it won't be in /var/log/syslog either
[23:19] <olvap> how could i list all the actions for every controller?
[23:19] <_hey_> what kind of help, AmyTek?
[23:19] <Billiard> unique: what type of filesystem is it?
[23:20] <AmyTek> I have the need to start ppd at boot and close it when restart
[23:20] <unique> Billiard ext3
[23:20] <AmyTek> I have a stupid modem that don't reset at reboot
[23:20] <phr_> is there a way to tell how much disk activity i'm doing?  basically it just took 30 minutes to cat a 4gb file to /dev/null
[23:20] <_hey_> so where's the problem?
[23:20] <Arelis> bazhang, Okay, so enabling UXA would make it faster but it's really risky?
[23:20] <Billiard> unique: does it work when you specify the fstype?
[23:20] <AmyTek> I tryed adding ppd in etc/rc.local
[23:20] <vlt> olvap: ask in #rubyonrails
[23:21] <olvap> ok
[23:21] <LaireTM> Hello, i search a way to mount a ftp folder
[23:21] <AmyTek> but when restart it don't reconnect
[23:21] <_hey_> phr, didn't you try to cp it
[23:21] <_hey_> to /dev/null
[23:21] <bazhang> Arelis, not sure how risky, but somewhat; it seems to be addressed in the next release in two weeks time
[23:21] <vlt> phr_: `vmstat 1` for example
[23:21] <erUSUL> LaireTM: Places>Connect to Server
[23:21] <unique> Billiard: like -t ext3?
[23:21] <girlsname> Should my Mini 10v be able to playback 480p videos on Hulu?
[23:21] <phr_> vlt, hmm, nice low numbers
[23:21] <Billiard> unique: yes
[23:21] <LaireTM> erUSUL: not a connection, i want mount it
[23:22] <phr_> _hey_ i used cat rather than cp.  should i use cp?
[23:22] <_hey_> yup
[23:22] <_hey_> cp is nice
[23:22] <unique> Billiard: it doesnt
[23:22] <mavity> this is going to sound like a very newb question.. but where are these programs that i install off of the database getting installed?
[23:22] <phr_> of course the file will be in cache now, unless i reboot
[23:22] <erUSUL> LaireTM: a mount point will be created in ~/.gvfs/
[23:22] <Arelis> bazhang, Okay. I guess i'll turn off compiz, then, for now.
[23:22] <vlt> phr_: no, you want cat
[23:22] <Billiard> unique: same error? what is the complete command you are using?
[23:22] <phr_> and when i use cat on another drive it's 10x faster
[23:22] <_hey_> nice
[23:22] <unique> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /media/drive
[23:22] <_hey_> did you try cp?
[23:23] <phr_> trying cp now
[23:23] <_hey_> oh cool
[23:23] <AmyTek> maybe I have to delete /proc/net/atm/cxacru:0 ?
[23:23] <phr_> vmstat 1 is showing "bi" of 3000-4000 does that mean 1k blocks/sec ?
[23:23] <phr_> that is consistent with the 4MB/s i saw earlier
[23:23] <Billiard> unique: this is a valid ext3 partition, did it work before, is it formatted?
[23:23] <Arelis> !intel
[23:23] <vlt> mavity: most of the executable binaries go to /usr/bin, then there are lib files in /var/lib or /usr/share ... You can list the files of a package with `dpkg -L <pkgname>`
[23:24] <unique> Billiard: it was working before just fine
[23:24] <mavity> thanks
[23:24]  * _hey_ is not still sure what blocks mean 
[23:24] <vlt> mavity: But you don't need to care for that. When you want to remove a pkg later the pkg manager (apt or adept or ...) does this for you.
[23:24] <_hey_> 'cause i'm sure that kernel has 4k blocks
[23:24] <LaireTM> erUSUL : and how i mount it?
[23:24] <_hey_> while disk activity functions have 1k blocks
[23:24] <mavity> yeah im just wondering because i downloaded wine but im not seeing it in my apps list
[23:25] <_hey_> blocks are quite individual
[23:25] <erUSUL> LaireTM: i told you Go to PLaces>Connect to Server enter the url pass if needed etc
[23:25] <gOLDfeesh> So no one here uses bitpim?
[23:25] <Billiard> unique: you could try fsck, idk
[23:25] <_hey_> fsck is cool
[23:25] <_hey_> you could fsck anything
[23:26] <paulsidney_> Please help.  I am having an problem with my sound card.  I have 9.04 running on a hp dv-4 1120us.  The problem is that my sound plays but loops into broken static.  Even on startup the ubuntu drums play repeatedly for about a minute at the login screen.  The rest of my sounds are indecipherable slush.  I have tried upgrading to the ASLA but it wont unpack or compile the files.  This is a clean install to an unpartitione
[23:26] <_hey_> that moves
[23:26] <paulsidney_> d HD (previously Vista 64)  I have tried everything I know to do and have gotten nowhere for two strait days.
[23:26] <Billiard> gOLDfeesh: i messaged you before, does it work with sudo, is it a permissions issue
[23:26] <unique> Billiard: like fsck -fy //dev/sdb1
[23:27] <gOLDfeesh> Billiard, I was told not to run it as sudo. I tried it with sudo and it didn't seem to work. I'm trying to remove all files contained with "bitpim" and then reinstalling
[23:27] <fbianconi> _hey_: each filesystem has it's own block size, and they are an arbitrary (usualy 2^n bits) amount of continum data managed as an unit
[23:27] <AmyTek> some advice for me?
[23:27] <LaireTM> erUSUL: But what I try dont work on this way: I want to mount the ftp folder, and giv other computer over the netork access to this folder over samba
[23:27] <_hey_> fbianconi, cool
[23:27] <harjot_> are there any logs which contsain file usage such as when this file was deleted or added etc..?
[23:28] <vlt> phr_: bi and bo is in blocks/s. What does hdparm say about dma mode on that drive?
[23:28] <_hey_> ... why am i even reading this
[23:28] <harjot_> are there any logs which contsain file usage such as when this file was deleted or added etc..?
[23:28] <erUSUL> !info culrfpfs | LaireTM
[23:29] <erUSUL> !info curlftpfs | LaireTM
[23:29] <Billiard> unique: you could try just checking it first, im not sure on all the fsck options, check the man page
[23:29] <denniscollective> I was running 9/10 beta, I ran update manager and it restarted without my intervention during the upgrade, when it rebooted my system was unusable, ithere are some udevadm messages about not being able to do things with udev unconfigured, it says can't access /dev/mem and then it says disk doesn not exist, then it boots to busy box
[23:29] <denniscollective> im on the restore cd right now
[23:29] <dajhorn> harjot_: Deleted files are usually gone.  The ctime property on a file indicates when it was first created.
[23:29] <erUSUL> LaireTM: but i suspect the whole set up will be as slow as a snail
[23:29] <LaireTM> ubotto: when i mount with curlftp, i dont cant edit files on the ftp server
[23:29] <harjot_> not deletedx but things like file writing
[23:30] <dajhorn> harjot_:  The last change is the mtime.
[23:30] <violet523> failure again with the nvidia drivers.... im using 9.04 should i upgrade?
[23:30] <harjot_> as i left my laptop on today and something has made my hd go from aprrox 15gb to one.1gb
[23:30] <harjot_> so i want to find out what  has been happening
[23:31] <grendal_prime> anybody recommend a good backup system
[23:31] <erUSUL> LaireTM: ubottu is a bot
[23:31] <The_Doctor> harjot_:  Have you looked into your log files? Just a thought.
[23:31] <grendal_prime> ive been dinking around with bacula for aweek now..and i just cant seem to find a decent front end app for building backups.
[23:31] <harjot_> which one?
[23:31] <dajhorn> harjot_: Check /var, /var/tmp, /var/log first.
[23:31] <LaireTM> erUSUL: i work with this line in the fstab:
[23:31] <LaireTM> curlftpfs#v115191:oetzi@ug-team.de /media/ftp_markus fuse rw,allow_other,noauto,user 0 0
[23:31] <The_Doctor> harjot_: I would look at all.
[23:31] <harjot_> ok
[23:31] <vlt> grendal_prime: Really depends on your needs. BackupPC is fine, maybe rdiff-backup is enough ...
[23:31] <harjot_> ok
[23:31] <violet523> >_>
[23:32] <violet523> posting login infor not best idea?
[23:32] <grendal_prime> needs to have a decent scheduling interface and job manager interface.
[23:32] <grendal_prime> these ones for bacula suck and straight up break stuff.
[23:33] <erUSUL> LaireTM: i do not use it. so i dunno
[23:33] <harjot_> which file would aid me [there are soooooo many]
[23:33] <The_Doctor> grendal_prime:  I heard something about rsync (spelling?) for backup.
[23:33] <girlsname> Should my Mini 10v be able to playback 480p videos on Hulu because when I try its very stuttery and unwatchable.
[23:33] <vlt> grendal_prime: Then have a look at BackupPC
[23:33] <theoo> how to make the ubuntu terminal every time i start it to be logged in as root user?
[23:33] <erUSUL> !root | theoo
[23:33] <Jimbo> hello there, quick question.....................
[23:34] <mavity> so basically i installed wine, i see it in the bin but it isnt on my app menu how it was before because the old one i removed with the 'main menu' program.  now i reinstalled it and cant get it back on my menu
[23:34] <mavity> nevermind
[23:34] <mavity> ignore me
[23:34] <violet523> wow, is tat the main difference between ubuntu and debian?
[23:34] <mavity> i added it back
[23:34] <violet523> the sudo part
[23:34] <grendal_prime> The_Doctor: ya i currently use rsync for alot of things..i need soemthing more centralized.
[23:34] <perlsyntax_> Where can i find _ssl for python?
[23:34] <_LaurE_> Hi??
[23:34] <vlt> violet523: No, you can have sudo on Debian too ;-)
[23:34] <grendal_prime> i was hoping for something that used rsync for the transport protocol
[23:35] <Jimbo> i began a partition resize (being performed on boot) and looked like iot was going to take all day, so foolishly aborted. Now all my files wont work and are basically corrupt. Is there any way to rescue these files or have they had it?
[23:35] <perlsyntax_> i hope someone knows.
[23:35] <grendal_prime> its very ....well...fast as hell
[23:35] <violet523> vlt: but its not sudoish out of box
[23:35] <theoo> erUSUL, i know what sudo is for :) but when i start the terminal i want sudo to be automatically typed
[23:35] <_LaurE_> Hola?
[23:35] <mavity> so i can add wine back to my list but now the subfolders are missing.. grrl
[23:35] <Jimbo> hola!
[23:35] <The_Doctor> grendal_prime:  My backup is copy and paste to my external drive.
[23:35] <erUSUL> !es | _LaurE_
[23:35] <Jimbo> anyone?
[23:36] <vlt> grendal_prime: BackupPC can be configured to use rsync (I think)
[23:36] <erUSUL> theoo: gnome-terminal -e "sudo -i" ??
[23:36] <perlsyntax_> hi
[23:36] <matteo1990> i tried to change the resolution wth sceen manager on my amilo pi 1505 and now i have no more the old resolution  in the possible selection(1270/..)(a 16:10), it was great... Any tips?
[23:36] <matteo1990> i tried to change the resolution wth sceen manager on my amilo pi 1505 and now i have no more the old resolution  in the possible selections(1270/..)(a 16:10), it was great... Any tips?
[23:36] <erUSUL> !undelete | Jimbo
[23:36] <Jimbo> erUSUL is that a linux command aye?
[23:37] <_LaurE_> Ubottu ooouu ok... but this chanel where is?? uk??
[23:37] <Jimbo> this particu;ar partition is ntfs
[23:37] <bazhang> _LaurE_, /join #ubuntu-es
[23:37] <erUSUL> Jimbo: undelete ? no is an ubottu factoid
[23:37] <grendal_prime> vlt thanks man where were you a week ago
[23:37] <Jimbo> ubotto factoid?
[23:38] <vlt> grendal_prime: In Cologne ;-)
[23:38] <erUSUL> _LaurE_: escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" /sin comillas) dale enter
[23:38] <bazhang> Jimbo, you need to read the links
[23:38] <erUSUL> !bot
[23:38] <Jimbo> ahhhhh
[23:38] <girlsname> Should my Mini 10v be able to playback 480p videos on Hulu on Ubuntu because when I try its very stuttery and unwatchable.
[23:39] <Sonja> how is support for silverlight in FF on ubunutu ?
[23:39] <datz> Hi, I have sound issues whenever I have a media player open, as well as the brower(firefox), seems either one or the other gets volume, but not both. Is there a way around this?
[23:39] <_LaurE_> ErUSUL i know these but i want practise my bad english ^^
[23:39] <erUSUL> Sonja: try the moonlight plugin based on mono (search for its homepage)
[23:40] <erUSUL> _LaurE_: ok, no problem. Wellcome :)
[23:40] <Sonja> erUSUL does it work well? or is it still buggy?
[23:40] <The_Doctor> datz: with pulse audio, you should be able set voume for each app separately.
[23:40] <erUSUL> Sonja: i did not test it extensibily but is spected to not be 100% compatible with the MS one
[23:41] <_LaurE_> ErUSUL ok ;) thanks but you are spanihs?
[23:41] <datz> The_Doctor, ok..I'll see, but right now, say, volume for brower only works after closing both brower, and media player, then opening one.
[23:41] <Turbolinux> Which packages are needed to install for using Dial-Up Internet Connection with Ubuntu
[23:41] <Turbolinux> ?
[23:41] <The_Doctor> datz: That is something I read. I would have to do a google search to find out more.
[23:41] <datz> humm, I'll take a look.
[23:41] <vlt> Turbolinux: wvdial
[23:42] <erUSUL> _LaurE_: yes; from Galicia :) but we have to stick to the topic of the channel. You can join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat
[23:42] <The_Doctor> !dial up | ubuto
[23:43] <_LaurE_> ErUSUL guauuu!! your english is very well!!
[23:43] <erUSUL> _LaurE_: years of irc training ;P
[23:43] <factran> Hello : Where can I found a boot.img.gz for xubuntu ?
[23:44] <night1ne> What's the terminal command for changing a user password?
[23:44] <datz> The_Doctor, looks like it might be a problem with theAdobe flash player
[23:44] <vlt> night1ne: `passwd`
[23:44] <The_Doctor> datz: Good luck.
[23:44] <datz> The_Doctor, I need to reload it, would you happen to know the best way about doing that?
[23:45] <mavity> this is hard to explain.  before when i had wine installed it had subfolders on the gui like "uninstall wine" and "Browse Programs" and "Accessories".  Now it just says "Wine" on my app list but thats it.  and when I click it nothing happens
[23:45] <night1ne> so passwd...?
[23:45] <vlt> night1ne: yes
[23:45] <night1ne> Maybe uninstall then reinstall wine, mavity?
[23:45] <night1ne> Okay, thanks.
[23:45] <The_Doctor> datz: Do you use command line or package manager. Go there, uninstall and then reinstall.
[23:45] <night1ne> What about for different user accounts?
[23:45] <datz> ok, sounds like a plan, thanks
[23:45] <erUSUL> night1ne: just "passwd" if its for your password. if you are suing sudo to change someone elses pass you type "sudo passwd loginname"
[23:45] <_LaurE_> ErUSUL lol my english is very bad, my teacher speak very well and he is angry with me because i don't undersyand his
[23:45] <vlt> night1ne: `passwd username`
[23:46] <vlt> night1ne: read `man passwd`
[23:46] <night1ne> So, passwd croak guest1
[23:46] <night1ne> Ah, okay.
[23:46] <_LaurE_> He*
[23:46] <erUSUL> _LaurE_: :)
[23:46] <bb1> If I'm listening to music in X11 and switch to another virtual terminal (with ctrl-alt-f#) the music will stop playing. Is there anyway to keep my music playing when I'm in another VT?
[23:46] <girlsname> Should my Mini 10v be able to playback 480p videos on Hulu on Ubuntu because when I try its very stuttery and unwatchable.
[23:47] <mgv2> im trying to recored something in skype with the sound test but it seems nothing is heard - maybe the microphone is in a very low volume which i cant correct from alsa - what should i do?
[23:47] <The_Doctor> girlsname: That is a frequent complaing about Hulu.
[23:47] <hsarci> anyone here use terminal server client?
[23:48] <mavity> i uninstalled and reinstalled it.  now it's completely gone
[23:48] <phr_> my slow transfers only happen for THESE SPECIFIC FILES
[23:48] <girlsname> The_Doctor but the Atom processor in it should be able to in theory?
[23:48] <The_Doctor> mgv2: Have you checked the audio settings to see if you have the correct device?
[23:48] <zopiac> What are the main advantages/disadvantes of Empathy over Pidgin?
[23:48] <The_Doctor> girlsname: How do videos in Youtube play?
[23:48] <girlsname> zopiac video and audio chat in Empathy
[23:48] <zopiac> oh awesome
[23:49] <erUSUL> zopiac: not really the topic here i'm afraid
[23:49] <girlsname> The_Doctor havent checked a "HQ" or "HD" one but Ill check.
[23:49] <zopiac> erUSUL: well im wondering if its a good idea whether to replace ubuntu's default of Pidgin with Empathy, and am getting some background info
[23:50] <dragon> Please do not fire a factoid at my next statement.
[23:50] <dragon> Has anyone ever executed a girl?
[23:50] <night1ne> Ah, okay.
[23:50] <bazhang> dragon, that is not appropriate here please desist now
[23:50] <mgv2> The_Doctor, yes but what should i do there?
[23:50] <night1ne> I mean..um
[23:50] <IdleOne> dragon: have you?
[23:51] <night1ne> Why the hell would I appreciate a girl.
[23:51] <paulsidney_> Check ASLA mic volume is zero by default
[23:51] <IdleOne> !ot > dragon
[23:51] <night1ne> I mean, execute.
[23:51] <dragon> bazhang, IdleOne: http://code.google.com/p/girl/
[23:51] <night1ne> Wait, it's the same thing.
[23:51] <The_Doctor> mgv2: Keep trying different ones until one, hopefully, works.
[23:51] <dragon> IdleOne: told you not to do that.
[23:51] <lightpriest> hello, is this the place to ask questions about packaging?
[23:51]  * erUSUL raises his "Do not feed the troll" sign
[23:51] <night1ne> ..
[23:51] <IdleOne> dragon: told you to follow the rules
[23:51] <dragon> It was an on-topic question, but never mind.
[23:51] <night1ne> Nope. UPS is :p
[23:51] <mgv2> The_Doctor, and if not :)?
[23:51] <vlt> !anyone | hsarci
[23:52] <The_Doctor> mgv2: I don't know.
[23:52] <IdleOne> dragon: if so you should have phrased it properly
[23:52] <adioxio> How do I join the gnome irc? :)
[23:52] <The_Doctor> mgv2: But I found I have always had to go throught the list to find one that would work for me.
[23:52] <erUSUL> dragon: no it was not ontopic; you carefully crafted the question to provoke the channel. Pure trolling
[23:52] <joebodo_> !gnome
[23:52] <The_Doctor> adioxio: /join #gnome
[23:52] <paulsidney_> Please help.  I am having an problem with my sound card.  I have 9.04 running on a hp dv-4 1120us.  The problem is that my sound plays but loops into broken static.  Even on startup the ubuntu drums play repeatedly for about a minute at the login screen.  The rest of my sounds are indecipherable slush.  I have tried upgrading to the ASLA but it wont unpack or compile the files.  This is a clean install to an unpartitione
[23:52] <paulsidney_> d HD (previously Vista 64)  I have tried everything I know to do and have gotten nowhere for two strait days.
[23:53] <mgv2> The_Doctor, what field is for the microphone?
[23:53] <girlsname> The_Doctor yea looks like youtube is fine, but is the Hulu problem just a Linux Flash thing?
[23:53] <mgv2> The_Doctor, should i reset something or go to skype right after?
[23:53] <The_Doctor> mgv2: I don't have it on this machine so I can't check it out.
[23:54] <Ziber> Is there any way to allow root login only by SSH keys but not by passwords?
[23:54] <lightpriest> Ziber, yes
[23:54] <The_Doctor> mgv2: I think it remembers the last setting.
[23:54] <Ziber> How?
[23:54] <theoo> erUSUL, gnome-terminal -e "sudo -i" just like this but i don't want to be prompted for the password.. i want automatically to login as root
[23:54] <trism> girlsname: even with flash 10, the linux version is still quite a bit slower than the windows version, although I have no problems watching the 480 videos in hulu
[23:54] <zulfi> how do i get the pluges for my mozilla?
[23:55] <bazhang> zulfi, which ones
[23:55] <girlsname> Oh I spoke too soon HD on youtube does in fact not work. But what Im really asking is if this a shortcoming of my Atom CPU or Linux Flash on the whole.
[23:55] <mgv2> The_Doctor, how do i test?
[23:55] <erUSUL> theoo: you are asking for trouble imho. but you can make sudo not ask pass there are plenty of info on the net on how to do it
[23:55] <tuffax1> can i ask the question again about package sharing?
[23:55] <The_Doctor> mgv2: Use the test call. You should be able to hear yourself and the response.
[23:55] <gOLDfeesh> Anyone have success with Jaunty and Bitpim?
[23:56] <donna> hello room
[23:56] <zulfi> i dont no i just started this ubuntu and i need the pluges and i dont no how to get one of them
[23:56] <lightpriest> Ziber: there's a "PasswordAuthentication" directive in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, but I think it's globally for all users
[23:56] <mgv2> The_Doctor, im testing - thanks
[23:56] <bazhang> zulfi, flash?
[23:56] <crypt-0> i have a webcam problem
[23:56] <bazhang> zulfi, install the package ubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:56] <crypt-0> it wors with cheese, but mplayer and ffmpeg just get garbage from it, it is a logtech
[23:56] <zulfi> were do i find that
[23:56] <Guest78261> why are my speakers on different settings on ubuntu
[23:56] <vlt> Ziber: You could disable root's password: `passwd -l`
[23:56] <The_Doctor> |webcam
[23:57] <erUSUL> zulfi: Aplications>Add Remove
[23:57] <The_Doctor> !webcam
[23:57] <zulfi> ohh
[23:57] <zulfi> ok
[23:57] <bazhang> zulfi, open synaptic package manager
[23:57] <erUSUL> !software | zulfi
[23:57] <zulfi> ok
[23:57] <Ziber> vlt: I'd still be able to sudo tho?
[23:58] <vlt> Ziber: Yes
[23:58] <adioxio> So im running 9.10 and I can't get eclipse to work without crashing every minute with a jdk error. Is there anyway to fix this?
[23:58] <bazhang> adioxio, #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[23:58] <hsarci> whats the keyboard shorcut to discconect a terminal server client connection?
[23:58] <marxiano> nas
[23:58] <vlt> hsarci: What client?
[23:59] <jerknextdoor> what's the best way to start trouble shooting why my laptop somewhat randomly shuts down?  i'm running 9.04 (problem started in 8.10) on a thinkpad r51.
[23:59] <Ziber> sweet, thanks
[23:59] <vlt> hsarci: For rdesktop you could leave fullscreen with Ctrl+Alt+Return
[23:59] <mgv2> The_Doctor, nothing changes
[23:59] <The_Doctor> mgv2: Sorry. Tried.
[23:59] <mavity> this wine thing is aggravating.  why when i uninstall and reinstall it not install how it did the first time?  the only way to access it now is through the terminal