[00:55] <verterok> file sharing servers are up and running again!
[01:56] <wgrant> Can I share notes with others?
[02:07] <jblount> wgrant: Not yet, but I think you could be the first to submit a bug that you can't! :)
[02:07] <jblount> wgrant: The same thing goes for contacts FWIW
[02:08] <wgrant> jblount: Well, contacts don't seem to work through the web UI.
[02:08] <wgrant> And I'm glad you cannot yet share notes.
[02:08] <wgrant> I have a bug to file, but it's not that they should be shared.
[02:09] <wgrant> Is ubuntuone-servers the new ubunet?
[02:09] <jblount> wgrant: Yeah, all the web servery bits.
[02:20] <guestabo> pessoal como faço para adicionar meu computador ao ubuntu one?
[02:29] <wgrant> Argh wtf.
[02:39] <wgrant> Sigh.
[02:49] <wgrant> jblount: Feel like looking at me two bugs?
[02:49] <wgrant> You probably want to.
[03:08] <jblount> wgrant: I'd be happy to, which ones?
[03:09] <wgrant> jblount: mmmm, you wouldn't be happy to. Bug #452707, bug #452689
[03:10] <jblount> wgrant: Yikes, these both seem quite important. I fear that I'm not the best person to triage them, but I can point statik at them so they can be dealt with as quickly as possible.
[03:10] <jblount> wgrant: Thanks very much for reporting them though, I appreciate the effort.
[03:11] <wgrant> jblount: The latter isn't really important yet.
[03:12] <jblount> wgrant: Not until we start sharing notes, right? (I haven't heard even whispers of this yet, so it could be really far off or right around the corner)
[03:13] <wgrant> Right.
[03:13] <wgrant> But anyway, enough has been said.
[03:22] <wgrant> Thanks statik.
[03:23] <statik> wgrant: it will take a few minutes to land the branch and roll it out. the fix is pushing up to launchpad now. thanks for reporting it.
[03:23] <wgrant> statik: But the other one is not quite so easily fixable.
[03:24]  * spm spots a rollout in his immediate future
[03:24]  * jamesh looks at the second
[03:24] <statik> feedparser sanitization maybe?
[03:25]  * jblount marvels at spm's eagle eyes
[03:25] <spm> jblount: it's a knack
[03:25] <jamesh> yeah.  That or some other whitelist based parser
[03:25] <wgrant> Good response time, I will give you that.
[03:26] <jamesh> blacklists suck
[03:26] <wgrant> But, um, how the fuck did either of those get through?
[03:27] <statik> my ignorance
[03:33] <wgrant> You know.
[03:34] <wgrant> It gets worse.
[03:34] <wgrant> I think
[03:34]  * wgrant tests..........
[03:35] <wgrant> Thankfully not at the moment, but it is very dangerous.
[03:36] <statik> wgrant: if you are ever interested in auditing the server code i would do my best to get you access
[03:38] <wgrant> (see the comment on bug #452707 for may latest concern)
[03:40] <jamesh> wgrant: thank you for reporting the bugs.
[03:47] <wgrant> Apologies for the nastiness. I've found all too many holes in LP.
[04:01] <statik> wgrant: yes, thanks for reporting these
[06:24] <wgrant> statik: Thanks for fixing that quickly.
[06:24] <statik> wgrant: np. we're in the middle of rolling it out now
[06:25] <statik> had to patch django to support HTTP-only, but jamesh took care of that
[08:33] <tiz> aquarius, dobey: Thanks I'll let you know how it works out :)
[08:56] <aquarius> tiz, cool :)
[09:02] <Bossmanbeta> I installed UbuntuOne on UBuntu 9.04, but I cannot connect to it ... how would I go about troubleshooting that?
[09:04] <vds1> Bossmanbeta: what did you do exactly and what do you mean with 'cannot connect'?
[09:05] <Bossmanbeta> I've clicked connect in the nautilus window as well as the tray icon in GNome, it simply won't connect. The only way I can add files is to use the UbuntuOne web gui
[09:05] <Bossmanbeta> I wasn't sure where the log files for UbuntuOne were kept exactly.
[09:05] <Bossmanbeta> In the nautilus window, when I click "connect" -- it just has a grey button "connecting" but never does.....
[09:06] <Bossmanbeta> the tray icon remains with a small red X in the lower right of the UbuntuOne icon
[09:08] <Bossmanbeta> perhaps the log files will give me a glimpse... would you know where they're kept & what they're called?
[09:08] <vds1> Bossmanbeta: ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log
[09:09] <vds1> Bossmanbeta: make sure you have the most update packages
[09:09] <Bossmanbeta> I just installed it yesterday...
[09:09] <wgrant> Possibly bug #451670
[09:11] <Bossmanbeta> hmm
[09:11] <Bossmanbeta> the log says something about cannot get token
[09:11] <Bossmanbeta>  File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/main.py", line 338, in get_access_token
[09:11] <vds1> Bossmanbeta: if you use the nightly builds, there's been an update tonight
[09:11] <Bossmanbeta>     raise NoAccessToken("No access token found.")
[09:11] <vds1> Bossmanbeta: have you add your computer to the list of allowed ones?
[09:12] <Bossmanbeta> i believe so
[09:12] <Bossmanbeta> where would I confirm that
[09:13] <vds1> Bossmanbeta: https://one.ubuntu.com/account/machines/ for the moment it's not very readable I'm afraid
[09:13] <vds1> Bossmanbeta: but at least you'll see if you have at least one
[09:13] <vds1> in any case you may want to re-add it
[09:14] <Bossmanbeta> i see nmy computer hostname yes... then followed with (random hash characters)
[09:14] <Bossmanbeta> no access token found implies the computer was not added properly?
[09:15] <Bossmanbeta> ...once I remove a machine, i don't readily see a link to add a machine
[09:16] <vds1> Bossmanbeta: let me find it for you
[09:16] <Bossmanbeta> odd, the link to add a machine isn't readily visible
[09:19] <wgrant> There is no link, because you must do it from the machine.
[09:19] <wgrant> Using the applet.
[09:19] <Bossmanbeta> hmm
[09:19] <Bossmanbeta> this is acatch-22 from hell
[09:19] <Bossmanbeta> I cannot connect with the applet
[09:20] <Bossmanbeta> and now that i've removed myself, I can't re-add myself I suppose now
[09:20] <aquarius> Bossmanbeta, the best thing to do here is to kill the applet and then re-start it; at that point it should ask you to add your machine again, and then it will work. Same thing happened to me
[09:20] <aquarius> Bossmanbeta, from a terminal window, do "killall ubuntuone-client-applet"
[09:20] <aquarius> then start the applet again from Applications > Internet > Ubuntu One
[09:21] <aquarius> it should then pop up your browser asking you to add this machine
[09:21] <Bossmanbeta> hmm
[09:21] <Bossmanbeta> I killed it, re-rean it .. nothing happens
[09:21] <Bossmanbeta> the tray icon appears.. with a red x
[09:22] <Bossmanbeta> and my machine remains un-readded
[09:22] <Bossmanbeta> this client failed on 2 of my 9.10 machines
[09:22] <aquarius> Bossmanbeta, and a new tab has not opened in Firefox?
[09:22] <Bossmanbeta> as well as this 9.04 machine
[09:22] <Bossmanbeta> no aquarius
[09:23] <aquarius> Bossmanbeta, OK, it's possible you have an old token rather than no token
[09:23] <aquarius> Bossmanbeta, try this
[09:23] <aquarius> Bossmanbeta, kill the applet again (killall ubuntuone-client-applet in a Terminal)
[09:23] <aquarius> then open Applications > Accessories > Passwords and Encryption Keys
[09:23] <Bossmanbeta> I am getting the same error
[09:23] <Bossmanbeta>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/main.py", line 338, in get_access_token
[09:23] <Bossmanbeta>     raise NoAccessToken("No access token found.")
[09:24] <aquarius> Expand the login section
[09:24] <aquarius> and look for a line with UbuntuOne token for https://ubuntuone.com
[09:24] <aquarius> is there one there?
[09:24] <Bossmanbeta> under the PASSWORDS tab... there is nothing for ubuntuone
[09:25] <Bossmanbeta> all I have is twitter, adobe air and gwibber
[09:26] <Bossmanbeta> aquarius: do i have to add one here for ubuntuone? How would I ?
[09:26] <aquarius> Bossmanbeta, no, the applet adds it for you
[09:26] <Bossmanbeta> hmm it hasn't done so here.
[09:27] <aquarius> try running the applet from the command line (in a terminal, do "ubuntuone-client-applet")
[09:27] <Bossmanbeta> i got some output
[09:27] <Bossmanbeta> the last line: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoServer: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-KV93XozCMV: Connection refused
[09:28] <aquarius> er!
[09:28] <aquarius> you can't talk to D-Bus.
[09:28] <Bossmanbeta> it returned to the command prompt as well
[09:28] <aquarius> OK, that might explain why the applet is not letting you authorise your computer!
[09:28] <Bossmanbeta> :)
[09:28] <Bossmanbeta> why is it trying to do this
[09:29] <aquarius> Bossmanbeta, the applet uses D-Bus to send a message saying "I don't have authorisation details for this computer, please get them for me"
[09:29] <aquarius> but that message never gets there because you can't talk to D-Bus. That's weird. I've never seen that before :)
[09:30] <Bossmanbeta> aquarius: here is the full output when I ran from cmd line:
[09:30] <Bossmanbeta> http://pastebin.com/d2ddc5dda
[09:31] <aquarius> Bossmanbeta, are you logged in as root?
[09:31] <Bossmanbeta> no
[09:31] <Bossmanbeta> I shouldn't need to sudo that client command though
[09:31] <aquarius> agreed completely
[09:32] <Bossmanbeta> I installed this yesterday... so I should have the most recent version
[09:32] <aquarius> I'm just trying to think of reasons why you can't talk to d-bus
[09:32] <aquarius> and sudoing the command is one reason
[09:32] <aquarius> you're not ssh'ed in from another computer or similar either, right? :)
[09:32] <Bossmanbeta> no
[09:33] <aquarius> ok, indulge me: sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[09:33] <Bossmanbeta> ok
[09:33] <aquarius> then try running ubuntuone-client-applet again
[09:33] <aquarius> (from the command line)
[09:36] <wgrant> Isn't the session, not system, bus the problem?
[09:36] <aquarius> yes.
[09:37] <aquarius> wgrant, I'm not sure whether the system init scripts restart the session bus as well
[09:37] <Bossmanbeta> hmm
[09:37] <aquarius> but I don't know a way to directly restart the session bus other than logging out and back in again
[09:37] <aquarius> wgrant, open to suggestions here :)
[09:37] <aquarius> Bossmanbeta, ?
[09:37] <Bossmanbeta> well that killed my gnome session as I thoughtit would
[09:37] <wgrant> Check for a dbus-daemon running with --session, maybe?
[09:37] <aquarius> oh. oops. :)
[09:37] <Bossmanbeta> (I am screen'ed in here on irc)
[09:37] <Bossmanbeta> that's why I didn't disconnect :)
[09:38] <wgrant> Right, restarting dbus will make X very unhappy.
[09:38] <aquarius> Bossmanbeta, clever :)
[09:38] <Bossmanbeta> the ubuntuone client auto-restarted on login
[09:38] <Bossmanbeta> still have the red X
[09:38] <aquarius> on the other hand, if it killed your session, that should restart the d-bus session bus :)
[09:38] <Bossmanbeta> I will run it from command line
[09:39] <Bossmanbeta> same thing
[09:39] <Bossmanbeta> last line: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoServer: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-KV93XozCMV: Connection refused
[09:39] <aquarius> Bossmanbeta, OK. That, to me, sounds like you have a D-Bus problem and the Ubuntu One applet is just an unfortunate casualty of that problem
[09:40] <Bossmanbeta> my system's been running fine though...
[09:40] <Bossmanbeta> no problems
[09:40] <Bossmanbeta> I could do a full reboot
[09:40] <wgrant> ps aux | grep dbus-daemon
[09:41] <aquarius> let's see if you have d-bus running: ps axu | grep dbus
[09:41] <aquarius> heh, wgrant faster than me :)
[09:41] <Bossmanbeta> 103      14650  0.0  0.0   3180  1464 ?        Ss   04:34   0:00 /bin/dbus-daemon --system
[09:41] <Bossmanbeta> j     15168  0.0  0.0   3196  1560 ?        Ss   04:34   0:00 //bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 6 --print-address 9 --session
[09:41] <Bossmanbeta> j     15979  0.0  0.0   3340   816 pts/3    S+   04:40   0:00 grep dbus-daemon
[09:41] <wgrant> Hm. So you do have a session bus.
[09:41] <wgrant> That's a bit sad.
[09:41] <aquarius> set | grep DBUS
[09:42] <Bossmanbeta> ...ok I'll gie, what's a session bus :)
[09:42] <aquarius> Bossmanbeta, there are two D-Bus buses, the system bus and the session bus -- they're the things that run D-Bus and make it work
[09:42] <Bossmanbeta> DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-KV93XozCMV,guid=c5b41f559dcc9cb35e613e784ac9622d
[09:42] <aquarius> Bossmanbeta, the system bus is run by root and there's only one of them
[09:42] <aquarius> the session bus is run by you as part of your session
[09:43] <wgrant> Does 'dbus-monitor' work?
[09:43] <Bossmanbeta> Failed to open connection to session message bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-KV93XozCMV: Connection refused
[09:44] <aquarius> good call. I forgot about dbus-monitor. I was trying to think of things that used d-bus :)
[09:44] <Bossmanbeta> I suppose my dbus is supposed to be accepting these connectings
[09:44] <aquarius> Bossmanbeta, OK, yeah, your problem is D-Bus. A reboot might fix this, unless wgrant has better suggestions?
[09:44] <wgrant> aquarius: Well, I admit I discovered it with dbus<TAB><TAB>
[09:44] <wgrant> A logout and in should have fixed it.
[09:44] <wgrant> So.. reboot!
[09:44] <Bossmanbeta> I dont mind rebooting
[09:45] <Bossmanbeta> but it gives me that MS feeling, ya know?
[09:45] <Bossmanbeta> :D
[09:45] <aquarius> that's why I've been avoiding suggesting it :)
[09:45] <Bossmanbeta> I know ... I figured :)
[09:45] <Bossmanbeta> ok brb
[09:45] <aquarius> but d-bus not running suggests your session is deeply sick ;)
[09:45] <Bossmanbeta> well let's see
[09:45] <aquarius> wgrant, cheers for the help there :)
[09:45] <Bossmanbeta> uptime:  04:45:35 up 711 days,  5:42,  7 users,  load average: 0.25, 0.29, 0.41
[09:46] <Bossmanbeta> that might be why
[09:46] <Bossmanbeta> eh brb
[09:46] <aquarius> no kernel upgrades for 711 days ;)
[09:47] <Bossmanbeta> back in 3
[09:47] <wgrant> I think that makes two local privilege escalation vulnerabilities.
[09:49] <aquarius> :-)
[09:49] <wgrant> Although hopefully not any more XSSes. I will go hunting for more of those tomorrow.
[09:51] <wgrant> Is the rollout still not done?
[09:52] <Bossmanbeta> ok i get a new error
[09:53] <Bossmanbeta> http://pastebin.com/d7f18407
[09:53] <aquarius> aha, yes. We know about this one.
[09:53] <aquarius> Can you try apt-get install python-ssl
[09:53] <aquarius> ?
[09:53] <Bossmanbeta> ok
[09:53] <aquarius> and see if that fixes it?
[09:53] <Bossmanbeta> sure thing
[09:53] <aquarius> er, python-openssl
[09:54] <Bossmanbeta> couldn't find the package
[09:54] <Bossmanbeta> ah
[09:54] <Bossmanbeta> it's already there and the newest
[09:55] <wgrant> The bug I referenced earlier has a workaround.
[09:55] <wgrant> I think.
[09:55] <wgrant> Maybe that was only in here.
[09:55] <Bossmanbeta> aquarius: I seem to already have python-openssl
[09:56] <aquarius> OK, then you are suffering from https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/451670
[09:56] <aquarius> please mark that bug as also affecting you
[09:56] <Bossmanbeta> ...sucks to be me
[09:56] <Bossmanbeta> should I report it?
[09:57] <aquarius> yeah; it's because the Python in jaunty doesn't have the SSL stuff that we need
[09:57] <aquarius> on that bug page, there's "Does this bug affect you?"; if you click that, you can say "yes it does"
[09:58] <Bossmanbeta> where's tha tlink
[09:58] <aquarius> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/451670
[09:58] <Bossmanbeta> i don't see the "does this affect u" link
[09:59] <wgrant> Are you logged in?
[09:59] <wgrant> It should be in green, under the assignee.
[10:00] <Bossmanbeta> hmm I just see :  *Also affects project  * Also affects distribution  * Nominate for release
[10:00] <Bossmanbeta> oh crap
[10:00] <Bossmanbeta> not logge din
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[10:00] <Bossmanbeta> ok clicked
[10:00] <Bossmanbeta> sorry :)
[10:01] <aquarius> wgrant, kudos for interrobang use, incidentally.
[10:01] <Bossmanbeta> I suppose everyone with Jaunty has this problem?
[10:01] <wgrant> Bossmanbeta: Right.
[10:01] <Bossmanbeta> wow
[10:01] <wgrant> aquarius: Where did I use one? In the bug?
[10:01] <Bossmanbeta> pretty big bug then
[10:02] <Bossmanbeta> I plan to move to karmic ... but I'd prefer to wait till the official release
[10:03] <aquarius> wgrant, yep, in the notes XSS bug. Good catch, by the way; I covered strings, but forgot about people deliberately crafting a malicious XML note with HTML handlers in it.
[10:04] <wgrant> aquarius: I presume there are lots of others around :(
[10:04] <wgrant> I mean, I found those two in my first 10 minutes...
[10:04] <aquarius> wgrant, not in the notes section. I don't know about the other stuff; I'm primarily desktop things at the moment...
[10:04] <Bossmanbeta> I a,lso notice there's about ABOUT in the applet icon menu
[10:04] <wgrant> Ah.
[10:04] <Bossmanbeta> err.. there's NO "about"
[10:05] <aquarius> wgrant, one of the bugs that we're fixing is that we're over-escaping the notes at the moment :)
[10:05] <aquarius> Bossmanbeta, yeah. I don't know whether there should be one
[10:05] <wgrant> aquarius: Particularly the titles, I noticed.
[10:05] <aquarius> wgrant, indeed.
[10:05] <aquarius> wgrant, I was a bit, er, overenthusiastic with the escaping, there :)
[10:05] <wgrant> There are also problems in filename escaping ,but nothing too horrific.
[10:05] <Bossmanbeta> aquarius: I would think there should be one ... especially if someone needs support... how would they check what version they had
[10:06] <aquarius> Bossmanbeta, that would be a useful request, if you'd like to file a bug about it
[10:06] <Bossmanbeta> or I suppose you'd say just apt-get the latest.. then start support
[10:07] <Bossmanbeta> though I wouldn't call that a bug to file.. I suppose technically, it's a feature request :)
[10:09] <Bossmanbeta> will ubuntuone be in the repos for apt-get updating?
[10:09] <Bossmanbeta> oh I see it's there nm
[10:35] <Ng> being the bearer of little brain, I'm finding myself unable to find a button to save a note when I create it via the website
[10:37] <aquarius> Ng, yep. Notes are autosaved, at the moment, but we'll be going back to explicit save
[10:37] <aquarius> precisely because it's confusing people, like it's confused you. ;)
[10:37] <Ng> hah
[10:37] <Ng> even new notes?
[10:37] <aquarius> yep
[10:37] <aquarius> you have to wait a little bit before it notices, though
[10:37]  * Ng dons a suspicious look
[10:38] <aquarius> mt will be pleased that you were confused by this, since he was right and I was wrong :P
[10:39] <aquarius> do I take it from your suspicious look that you don't believe me? :)
[10:39] <wgrant> That had me very confused this afternoon too.
[10:40] <wgrant> I also couldn't see a raw edit button, so had to resort to disabling JS for my nefarious purposes. Is that deliberately missing?
[10:42] <aquarius> this is why we're removing autosave. :)
[10:42] <Ng> good good :)
[10:42] <aquarius> that's what I get for trying to be clever, I suppose. :)
[10:42] <Ng> aquarius: well I just don't believe you because I wrote a new note and it didn't get saved, but maybe I didn't have it open for very long
[10:43] <aquarius> Ng, yeah, keep it open for a bit longer. (And observe that I have already said that we're removing this :))
[10:43] <aquarius> wgrant, "raw edit button"?
[10:43] <Ng> aquarius: I'm happy to wait for the new hotness :)
[10:43] <Ng> I did also manage to tickle an "Internal Server Error", but there was no pretty launchpad-style Oops
[10:44] <aquarius> Ng, ooo. Please report that. that's not supposed to happen.
[10:44] <Ng> now I have to figure out how I did that
[10:45] <wgrant> aquarius: I normally expect obstructive WYSIWYG editors to have a button to transform them back into a textarea.
[10:45] <wgrant> But that might not be so important for this one when I'm not trying to exploit it.
[10:46]  * aquarius chuckles. Yep. This does not, because it's roughly emulating the Tomboy interface, which also doesn't allow you to edit the note's XML.
[10:46] <wgrant> Ah.
[10:47] <aquarius> that's why I made it autosave, too, but it's more important to be consistent with the way the rest of the website works than it is to be consistent with Tomboy.
[10:48] <Ng> aquarius: least useful bug report ever I'm afraid, but bug #452920 filed nonetheless
[10:48] <Ng> hmm
[10:48] <Ng> I suspect I filed that on completely the wrong thing too
[10:49] <aquarius> filed on the correct thing
[10:49] <aquarius> totally frigging useless bug report, but I appreciate it anyway ;-)
[10:49]  * aquarius grins
[10:49] <Ng> aquarius: autosave wouldn't be so bad if it said it was doing it and had a specific button to force it. It's just confusing because it's inconsistent with other web applications
[10:49] <Ng> I'm all for edits I make being remembered when I'm too stupid to press the save button ;)
[10:50] <aquarius> aha, now I made that case and was denied. But we're planning to re-add that again in the future ;)
[12:30] <rachaelb> hi all... !!! i'm back !!!! :) lol
[12:30] <rachaelb> ok the latest updates last night killed ubuntuone again
[12:31] <rachaelb> i don't think the applet client is very happy with updates
[12:31] <rachaelb> this time i/m left with a ubuntuone key but no entry in the file
[12:31] <rachaelb> can you tell me what the command line was again to kill the program and restart it?
[12:31] <rachaelb> thanks
[12:33] <rachaelb> aquarius ??? help please!
[12:33] <aquarius> rachaelb, heya. There were some problems with the appservers yesterday -- I got the same thing
[12:33] <rachaelb> its not just me!!!!!
[12:33] <aquarius> rachaelb, to kill the applet, from a terminal, do "killall ubuntuone-client-applet"
[12:33] <rachaelb> makes a change
[12:34] <aquarius> rachaelb, then restart it from the command line, with "ubuntuone-client-applet"
[12:34] <rachaelb> thanks! ive written that down so i dont have to bug you again
[12:34] <rachaelb> i was trying "kill" as a command but that only works for processes
[12:34] <rachaelb> forgot the "all" bit on the end lol
[12:35] <rachaelb> thanks for your help... have a truly fab day
[12:35] <aquarius> no problem. Enjoy yourself. :)
[13:48] <diverse_izzue> hey all. i had a functioning ubuntu one yesterday. today, it cannot login, and syncdaemon-exceptions says: hunzikea@AlexT60:~$ cat .cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log
[13:48] <diverse_izzue> 2009-10-16 14:47:15,377 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.DBus - ERROR - Can't get the auth token
[13:48] <diverse_izzue> Traceback (most recent call last):
[13:48] <diverse_izzue>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/dbus_interface.py", line 1073, in connect
[13:48] <diverse_izzue>     access_token = self.main.get_access_token()
[13:48] <diverse_izzue>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/main.py", line 298, in get_access_token
[13:48] <diverse_izzue>     return self.oauth_client.get_access_token()
[13:48] <diverse_izzue>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ubuntuone/syncdaemon/main.py", line 338, in get_access_token
[13:48] <diverse_izzue>     raise NoAccessToken("No access token found.")
[13:49] <diverse_izzue> NoAccessToken: No access token found. indeed in seahorse i cannot find a stored key for ubuntu one. why did it disappear?
[13:49] <diverse_izzue> sorry for the paste, accident
[13:50] <aquarius> diverse_izzue, something went strange overnight
[13:50] <aquarius> diverse_izzue, from a terminal, "killall ubuntuone-client-applet", then re-run Ubuntu One, and it should ask you to reauthorise
[13:57] <diverse_izzue> aquarius, worked
[13:57] <aquarius> diverse_izzue, excellent.
[13:57] <diverse_izzue> so where did something go wrong? on my machine or on your servers?
[13:58] <aquarius> on the servers, I think, or more that something went a bit wrong on the servers and the client didn't cope with it seamlessly. People are sorting that out
[13:59] <diverse_izzue> aquarius, good to know, thx
[14:11] <Chipaca> killall ubuntuone-syncdaemon too
[14:11] <Chipaca> otherwise the new applet will pick up the old syncdaemon :)
[14:12] <Chipaca> because they talk over dbus, and dbus is all "oh, I already *have* one of those, here!"
[14:12] <Chipaca> and you're like "no, dude, I want a new one!" and dbus is "no way, dude, this one is, like, totally the one you want"
[14:14] <aquarius> heh. wisdom from chipaca. :)
[14:20] <leonel-vaio> hello ..
[14:20] <leonel-vaio> Just upgraded a jaunty desktop and  ubuntuone cant connect .
[14:20] <leonel-vaio> NoAccessToken: No access token found.
[14:20] <leonel-vaio> 1.0.0+r255-0ubuntu1~ppa1~jaunty
[14:21] <leonel-vaio> but I have another jaunty save ubuntuoneclient version and works fine
[14:21] <leonel-vaio> any hint where to look ?
[14:22] <jblount> rodrigo_: Hi! I deleted all my Tomboy notes in the webui, and I want that change propigated down to my computer. I've waited a while, but it doesn't seem to be happening. Any hints?
[14:23] <nimh> hey leonel-vaio: have you restarted the ubuntuone-client-applet ?
[14:24] <leonel-vaio> nimh: yes  and killall  all the ubuntuone processes  then restarted again
[14:24] <leonel-vaio> nimh: same result
[14:25] <jblount> leonel-vaio: Do you see the applet icon in your panel? Can you right click on it and select connect?
[14:25] <nimh> seen anything suspicious in ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-exceptions.log ?
[14:25] <jblount> leonel-vaio: Actually, I think it's left click
[14:26] <leonel-vaio> jblount: selected connect  same result
[14:26] <leonel-vaio> ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.DBus - ERROR - Can't get the auth token
[14:27] <aquarius> jblount, can you kill the client applet and then run it from the command line to see the output?
[14:27] <leonel-vaio> even  as if I where on windows  rebooted and same result
[14:27] <jblount> aquarius: "the client applet" == tomboy.exe?
[14:27] <leonel-vaio> AttributeError: HTTPSConnection instance has no attribute '_tunnel_host'
[14:27] <aquarius> leonel-vaio, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/451670
[14:28] <aquarius> jblount, sorry, that was directed at leonel-vaio :)
[14:28] <dobey> grr python :)
[14:28] <leonel-vaio> aquarius: thanks
[14:28] <aquarius> leonel-vaio, yeah, it's a known bug with Python's support for SSL in jaunty. Can you tag that bug as "this also affects me" so we know how many people have a problem with it?
[14:30] <leonel-vaio> aquarius: tagged and commented ..   Thank you.
[14:31] <leonel-vaio> aquarius: the funny thing is that  this  jaunty has the error and  another jaunty works  perfect.
[14:31] <aquarius> leonel-vaio, the earlier jaunty is, I suspect, running an earlier version of the code, which used pycurl
[14:32] <leonel-vaio> aquarius: both are with  1.0.0+r255-0ubuntu1~ppa1~jaunty
[14:33] <aquarius> ?
[14:33] <aquarius> ok then I don't know why
[14:33] <aquarius> don't look too hard at the other computer or it might break. :)
[14:33] <aquarius> dobey, ??
[14:33] <leonel-vaio> hahaha
[14:33] <leonel-vaio> thank you .
[14:34] <dobey> yes?
[14:34] <aquarius> why would it work on some jaunty machines if they're both running the same version of the codebase?
[14:34] <nimh> what about the versions of python? are they moving at all?
[14:38] <dobey> aquarius: Python is fickle? how am i supposed to know that? :)
[14:39] <dobey> compare the python versions
[14:39]  * dobey tries on his jaunty machine
[14:56] <rodrigo_> jblount: you need to 'sync notes' on tomboy, it doesn't sync automatically, not until next version of tomboy
[14:57] <jblount> rodrigo_: Hmm, is there a button to push somewhere?
[14:58] <dobey> jblount: you need a ticket to ride
[14:59] <jblount> heh
[14:59] <rodrigo_> jblount: if you've got tomboy on the system tray, there's an item on the right-click menu
[14:59] <rodrigo_> jblount: if not, on each note, there's a plugins button, with a menu and a 'sync notes' item
[15:01] <jblount> MEETING BEGINS
[15:01] <jblount> Desktop+! Let's meet! Say "me" if you'd like to repined with your status in the form of TODO / DONE / BLOCKED
[15:01] <jblount> dobey
[15:01] <jblount> CardinalFang
[15:01] <jblount> statik
[15:01] <jblount> urbanape
[15:01] <jblount> teknico
[15:01] <jblount> rodrigo_
[15:01] <jblount> vds
[15:01] <jblount> aquarius
[15:02] <jblount> me
[15:02] <teknico> me
[15:02] <rodrigo_> me
[15:02] <urbanape> me
[15:02] <CardinalFang> me
[15:02] <dobey> me
[15:03] <CardinalFang> aquarius is away until Tuesday.
[15:03] <vds> me
[15:03] <CardinalFang> jblount, !!
[15:03] <jblount> aha
[15:03] <jblount> DONE: /contacts/ design 80%, a few calls and sorted confusion
[15:03] <jblount> TODO: copy changes! get lp:~jdobrien/ubuntuone-servers/auth-n-subscribe landed with some tweaks, last 20% of /contacts, lots of /files/ bugs to sort, celebrate bosses day
[15:03] <jblount> BLOCKED: Nope
[15:03] <jblount> teknico: tag
[15:03] <teknico> DONE: landed branch to put contact edit form sections in their place (#439090); landed urbanape's client-side code for the contacts web ui (#439093); started adjusting form field display for the contacts edit form (#439090)
[15:03] <teknico> TODO: finish adjusting form field display for the contacts edit form (#439090)
[15:03] <teknico> BLOCK: none
[15:03] <teknico> next: rodrigo_
[15:04] <rodrigo_> • DONE: More XML<->HTML tomboy notes conversion fixes
[15:04] <rodrigo_> • TODO: Talk to Ara about writing mago tests for evo-couchdb. Conflict resolver tool in pair tool. Look at becoming a MOTU (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers). openSUSE/Fedora packaging with aquarius. API documentation for couchdb-glib. Make sandy's snowy test suite work with our server (http://git.gnome.org/cgit/snowy/tree/api/tests.py). Discuss with jdo and aquarius about oauth token per app, not per machine?
[15:04] <rodrigo_> • BLOCKED: no
[15:04] <rodrigo_> go urbanape go!
[15:04] <urbanape> DONE: Landed two branches that dealt with client side javascript for the contacts/ UI #439093 (not quite done, I don't think)
[15:04] <urbanape> TODO: Work with teknico and jblount to finish it.
[15:04] <urbanape> BLOCK: None
[15:04] <urbanape> CardinalFang: Your lead
[15:04] <CardinalFang> DONE: debugged replication problems.
[15:04] <CardinalFang> TODO: make desktopcouch and couchdb packages.
[15:04] <CardinalFang> BLOCKED: couchdb or apache proxy or ssl
[15:04] <CardinalFang> vds, please.
[15:05] <vds> DONE:code review, fixed issues on proposed branch for couchdb compaction #449402
[15:05] <vds> TODO: land the branch
[15:05] <vds> BLOCKED: Nope
[15:05] <vds> that's it I guess
[15:05] <dobey> harumph
[15:05] <dobey> fine
[15:06] <dobey> ☺ DONE: Client/protocol stable-1-0 branches, Split out ubuntuone-ppa packaging to separate branch
[15:06] <dobey> ☹ TODO: 1.0.2 release for couple karmic fixes. Find/fix more bugs.
[15:06] <dobey> ☹ BLCK: None.
[15:07] <jblount> EOM? More like EMO! amirite?
[15:07] <CardinalFang> surely.
[15:08]  * CardinalFang high-fives jblount.
[15:08] <urbanape> it's funny. written down, sad trombone looks a lot like a weepy emo kid.
[15:08] <urbanape> wah wah wah
[15:14] <dobey> heh
[15:16] <jblount> Scale of 1 (that is the dumbest thing ever) to 10 (SOOOO COOL ZOMG) - Rebel Alliance tattoo
[15:16] <jblount> ??
[15:17] <dobey> ok, so i get the _tunnel_host error too
[15:17] <dobey> blah
[15:17] <dobey> jblount: let me find a nice video for you to watch about tattoos
[15:18] <dobey> jblount: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2pSt2gACrc
[15:22] <jblount> dobey: :D
[15:29] <dobey> oh, the one guy is gone who had the HTTPSConnection issue
[15:33] <nimh> how much of a starwars fan are you jblount?
[15:34] <nimh> because I'd in general give that a five
[15:34] <nimh> but if you're like a super starwars dude and train to obtain the force every night and everyone knows you're *that* starwars guy, then it'd creep up a bit
[15:36] <dobey> i'd give it a 0
[15:36] <jblount> nimh: I'd say I'm a 7 in the way of Star Wars fandom.
[15:36] <jblount> Enthusiastic, but not weird.
[15:39]  * dobey ponders what to get for lunch today
[15:40] <dobey> jblount: i think when you get a tattoo, that qualifies as a crossover from enthusiastic, to weird
[15:43] <nimh> nah mang, I've got a few tats of things I really dig on, it ain't so weird
[15:43] <nimh> but what happens if you want to turn to the dark side?
[15:44] <dobey> of course it's not weird *to you* :)
[15:44] <jblount> nimh: Hmm. Good point. There is the option of having both sides, but that seems like cop out.
[15:44] <nimh> ha ha, sure it ain't weird to me, but I do get compliments on them
[15:44] <dobey> jblount: are you going to get an autobot tat too?
[15:44] <nimh> personally I tend to stay away from pop culture things
[15:47] <dobey> do you have a tatoo of λ ?
[15:47] <nimh> putty doesn't like whatever that character is
[15:47] <dobey> lambda
[15:48] <nimh> recursive tattoos?
[15:48] <nimh> I may be a bit of a geek, but not that geeky
[15:48] <dobey> no it's a greek character
[15:51] <nimh> yeah, I know what it is, used for all manner of things, wavelength of radio waves being the one that springs to mind first
[15:51] <dobey> political uprising against the combine
[15:53] <nimh> I'm being opressed by the combine now?!
[15:53] <nimh> (what's a combine, apart from a harvester?)
[15:54] <dobey> nimh: the alien race that takes over the planet in Half-Life
[15:57] <nimh> ha ha, awesome, it's been like 10 years since I played that
[16:14] <jml> dobey, statik told me that you had some cool stuff you've written that uses Launchpad APIs.
[16:14] <jml> dobey, can I tempt you to join the lpx project?
[16:14] <dobey> jml: yep
[16:14] <dobey> jml: i'll poke at doing that again as soon as i have a little time to look at it
[16:15] <jml> dobey, cool, thanks :)
[16:18] <verterok> jml: oh, hal knows a thing or two about the lp api, and it's twisted ;)
[16:18] <Claudinux> how can I configure ubuntuone to can see my contact of evolution? In web page i have Page Not Found (404) Unfortunately, the page you've requested has not been found.
[16:22] <dobey> Claudinux: i think that's not entirely ready/working yet, but the hackers are working to get it usable :)
[16:23] <Claudinux> ok, thanks dobey ;)
[16:23] <joshuahoover> fyi...jaunty users having problems connecting with the latest client release are very likely experiencing problems related to bug 451670 you can check by running: ubuntuone-client-applet from a terminal session...if you see something like "no HTTPSConnection._tunnel_host", it's that bug
[16:27] <dobey> oh man
[16:28] <dobey> sadly enough, i actually wish i was in boston on monday
[16:28] <dobey> free Boondock Saints II screening
[16:28] <nimh> you know how I know it's friday evening?  I get a load of work shoved at me.  Without fail.
[16:29] <dobey> only thing i'm gonna get shoved at me this evening is bourbon
[16:32] <nimh> There's a party at my place tonight, but I'm on a no-alcohol kick this month
[16:33] <jblount> Daft Punk is playing at my house.
[16:34] <nimh> Those robot dudes are cool
[16:39] <jblount> nimh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3NqGGDO-3E
[18:41] <Misiak> hey ppl.. will anybody help me with some issues with ubuntuone?
[18:44] <dobey> just ask your questions and if anyone can answer, they will :)
[18:44] <jblount> (Sometimes even if they can't)
[18:44] <Misiak> I thought that, only bots are here :-)
[18:46] <Misiak> ok so.. how to add my computer to ubuntu one account? I followed manual, but it doesn't work somehow
[18:47] <jblount> Misiak: Do you see an icon in your panel? Can you clock on that and select connect?
[18:47] <dobey> Misiak: are you on jaunty?
[18:48] <Misiak> I am still on 9.04 and I see icon.. I've tried to click there and then click to connect, but nothing happened
[18:48] <dobey> what version of the client do you have installed?
[18:49] <Misiak> ii  python-ubuntuone-client                    1.0.1+r257-0ubuntu1~ppa1~jaunty           Ubuntu One client Python libraries
[18:49] <Misiak> ii  python-ubuntuone-storageprotocol           1.0.0+r72-0ubuntu1~ppa1~jaunty            Python library for Ubuntu One file storage a
[18:49] <Misiak> ii  ubuntuone-client                           1.0.1+r257-0ubuntu1~ppa1~jaunty           Ubuntu One client
[18:49] <Misiak> ii  ubuntuone-client-gnome                     1.0.1+r257-0ubuntu1~ppa1~jaunty           Ubuntu One client GNOME integration
[18:49] <Misiak> ii  ubuntuone-ppa-beta                         2009.05.14-0ubuntu1                       GPG keys and sources for the Ubuntu One pack
[18:49] <Misiak> sorry for flooding :)
[18:51] <dobey> ok
[18:53] <dobey> you are experiencing a known bug. we're going to try and get it fixed asap, but it might take a few days. sorry for the inconvenience.
[18:53] <Misiak> I am glad, that I am not the one :-)
[18:54] <dobey> nope. anyone on jaunty is going to see it, unless they've already got a valid authorization on the client :)
[18:55] <Misiak> ok another question.. in the web interface.. clicking on the "Sharing" and I would like to stop sharing... after click on "Stop Sharing" it looks like I clicked on the inactive button and share for friend is still active
[18:56] <Misiak> It was working for couple of days and suddenly I couldn't connect, I've tried to reinstall packages.. nothing happend.. so I came here
[18:56] <jblount> Misiak: The "Stop sharing" button is broken right now, javascript heroes of might and magic we'll be working on it soonish.
[18:57] <Misiak> OK gyus, thanks for help and answers anyway ;-)
[18:58] <jblount> Misiak: :)
[18:58] <Misiak> bye all ;-)
[19:17] <sagensand> On my Karmic system my Shared With Me folder is locked. When I drop a file on it I get error Permission Denied, Is it suppose to be locked?
[19:18] <dobey> "Shared with Me" contains other folders which you may or may not write to (depending on what permissions the person sharing with you allowed)
[19:19] <dobey> putting a file directly under "Shared with Me" wouldn't really do anything
[19:19] <dobey> what is it you wish to do with that file?
[19:19] <sagensand> I understand you drop a file in it and it automatically uploads it for you
[19:20] <dobey> in the "Ubuntu One" folder it will yes
[19:20] <dobey> "Shared with Me" is a special folder where folders shared *to* you by others will appear
[19:20] <sagensand> I see now
[19:21] <sagensand> I have logged in and uploaded to the server
[19:21] <sagensand> So Shared with Me is for viewing
[19:22] <sagensand> Concept wise I think this is suppose to work like Xmarks which stores my bookmarks on a server
[19:23] <Pablo_ubuntu> Hello
[19:23] <sagensand> I have green check marks on everything. I would think that only files that are uploaded to the server should have the green check mark on just those files. File>Properties>Emblems tab says that emblem is synchronized
[19:23] <Pablo_ubuntu> anybody know if ubuntu one work well now?
[19:23] <dobey> sagensand: well, that would be the bindwood firefox extension we have which stores bookmarks in a local couchdb, which can be paired and synchronized to the ubuntuone server (and back to other computers of your own) (or just across the network to other computers of your own)
[19:24] <dobey> sagensand: there was an update to fix the green check marks
[19:24] <Pablo_ubuntu> anybody know if do ubuntu one work well now?
[19:24] <dobey> sagensand: Updating to the 1.0.1 package in karmic, and logging out and back in will resolve that issue
[19:25] <dobey> Pablo_ubuntu: works well in what sense? do you have a specific issue you're wondering about being addressed?
[19:26] <sagensand> don't know what 1.0.1 is I got 2.6.31-13
[19:26] <Pablo_ubuntu> sorry dobey, my inglesh is very poor
[19:27] <sagensand> you mean ubuntu one version, let me check
[19:27] <dobey> sagensand: ubuntuone-client-gnome version
[19:30] <Pablo_ubuntu> ubuntu one service is work fine now, THANK
[19:30] <Pablo_ubuntu> !thanks
[19:30] <sagensand> In Synaptic it says I have 1.0.0  do I check that package for upgrade to get the new version
[19:30] <dobey> heh
[19:31] <dobey> sagensand: yep
[19:32] <octodur> im having problems at the login promt for ubuntuone and launchpad. I sign in with username and right password but i just get returned to the same page again
[19:35] <dobey> joshuahoover: ping. help a brutha out :)
[19:35] <joshuahoover> octodur: unfortunately, this is a known issue (bug 446020)...the good news is we appear to have a fix and will roll that out on the server on our next server rollout which i think will be on monday...apologies for the hassle
[19:37] <octodur> ahh i see, i saw a update 6 minutes ago and thought maybe this was resolved then but oke cool then i know =)
[19:38] <sagensand> RMB on ubuntuone-client and Mark for Upgrade is grayed out
[19:38] <Nik1> hmmm, i thought i was the only one having these problems
[19:38] <dobey> sagensand: i don't use synaptic myself. if you run update-manager, and click "Refresh" on there, you should see some updates
[19:38] <joshuahoover> Nik1: same problem?
[19:38] <Nik1> i even unistalled and re-installed the app but no luck
[19:38] <Nik1> yup :(
[19:38] <tyabux> either I'm completely stupid, or Ubuntu One is _far_ from being ready for the average user. Is this supposed to be useful at all at this time?
[19:39] <joshuahoover> tyabux: what issues are you seeing?
[19:39] <octodur> joshuahoover: actually i could almost solve it, i went in to sign up for the ubuntuone account, and got to my page but i cant upload
[19:39] <octodur> Page Not Found (404)
[19:39] <octodur> Unfortunately, the page you've requested has not been found.
[19:39] <octodur> wasnt able to do this before =)
[19:39] <Nik1> my computer doesn't even show up under the my account page
[19:40] <tyabux> joshuahoover, well. I have an icon which has menu with an option to connect. I select that option, but nothing happens at all. Sometimes it connects automatically though, but I have no idea why. And when it does connect and it sais it's online, it doesn't sync any files.
[19:40] <Nik1> oh well, it is a free service so we'll just have to wait till a fix is ready and hopefully this will sort out all the problems we're having :)
[19:40] <tyabux> joshuahoover, except once, I was able to sync a 2KB file, out of a directory with about ten files and five folders or something.
[19:41] <sagensand> Im dnloading 140megs
[19:41] <joshuahoover> tyabux: karmic or jaunty?
[19:42] <jcastro> joshuahoover: stickes handled
[19:42] <joshuahoover> jcastro: thanks!
[19:42] <tyabux> joshuahoover, Karmic. I didn't think Ubuntu One was included in Jaunty?
[19:42] <jcastro> tyabux: there was a beta ppa
[19:42] <dobey> it's not included in jaunty
[19:42] <joshuahoover> tyabux: you can install it there
[19:42] <dobey> but we have builds for jaunty
[19:43] <joshuahoover> tyabux: do you have the latest version of u1? all karmic updates applied
[19:43] <joshuahoover> Nik1: ok, and your client never connects?
[19:43] <tyabux> joshuahoover, yes.
[19:44] <Nik1> joshuahoover nope, never connects. it's been like that for two or three days actually
[19:44] <joshuahoover> tyabux: do you have an ubuntu one token in applications->accessories->passwords and encryption keys?
[19:44] <joshuahoover> Nik1: karmic?
[19:44] <Nik1> jaunty
[19:45] <joshuahoover> Nik1: do you have the latest version of the client by any chance?
[19:45] <Nik1> and i installed it via wubi
[19:45] <Nik1> yes, i do and i applied the latest update earlier today
[19:46] <dobey> yeah
[19:46] <joshuahoover> Nik1: ok, have you ever connected successfully to ubuntu one previously?
[19:46] <tyabux> joshuahoover, no, not that I can see.
[19:46] <Nik1> yes, up until now i've only had problems connecting once in the past after an update for the linux headers
[19:46] <joshuahoover> tyabux: ok, what should (keyword there) happen is when you launch the client it should open a browser window, you login, add your computer to your account, and then the client connects
[19:47] <Nik1> but that was sorted after the next u1 update
[19:47] <joshuahoover> Nik1: same thing i asked tyabux, do you have an ubuntu one token in applications->accessories->passwords and encryption keys?
[19:47] <Nik1> it's been slightly temperamental but nothing serious
[19:47] <tyabux> joshuahoover, I have added this computer before. Several times. The first time, it received some gobbledigook-name of random characters, the other time it received the correct hostname.
[19:48] <Nik1> no, i don't
[19:48] <Nik1> how can i add it please?
[19:48] <joshuahoover> Nik1: nothing shows in the passwords tab for ubuntu one?
[19:48] <Nik1> there is no u1 tab...
[19:49] <joshuahoover> tyabux: right, but for some reason you don't have an ubuntu one token from the sounds of it, which you need to connect your computer to the service (to your account)
[19:49] <Nik1> i've tried to do that but according to the instructions on the u1 website, this is done after you installed the app
[19:49] <joshuahoover> Nik1: no, there is a passwords tab and then maybe a "passwords: login" with an arrow you click on to see what passwords are there
[19:50] <Nik1> the passwords tab is there and there is an entry for passwords:login but no arrow in sight
[19:50] <tyabux> joshuahoover, I restarted the applet, and now a webpage offering to sign me in appeared. Is that supposed to happen each time I login to my desktop?
[19:50] <joshuahoover> Nik1: if you run this command in a terminal session, can you tell me what you get? ubuntuone-client-applet
[19:51] <joshuahoover> tyabux: that will happen when your computer doesn't have an ubuntu one token, which you don't have for some reason
[19:51] <Nik1> Ubuntu One client applet already running, quitting
[19:51] <Nik1> /usr/bin/ubuntuone-client-preferences:354: GtkWarning: Error parsing gtk-icon-sizes string:
[19:51] <Nik1> 	'panel-menu=24,24
[19:51] <Nik1> panel=20,20
[19:51] <Nik1> gtk-button=18,18
[19:51] <Nik1> gtk-large-toolbar=24,24'
[19:51] <Nik1>   dialog.show()
[19:51] <Nik1> oops
[19:51] <Nik1> sorry about that
[19:52] <joshuahoover> Nik1: need to know if you see some sort of stacktrace with "httpsconnection._tunnel_host" towards the end
[19:52] <tyabux> joshuahoover, oh, ok. Well, now I'm logged in. It sais my folder is empty though, which means the files I updated the last time have been deleted, I suppose?
[19:52] <Nik1> it is set to connect on start (automatically) and only show the icon when updating
[19:52] <joshuahoover> tyabux: you have no files listed in the web ui?
[19:52] <Nik1> no joshuahoover, i don't see anything like that on the terminal
[19:52] <tyabux> joshuahoover, I do now, after clicking around and refreshing the page a few times...
[19:52] <joshuahoover> Nik1: try quitting the client and then running: ubuntuone-client-applet
[19:52] <Nik1> ok
[19:53] <joshuahoover> tyabux: hmmm...may have just been loading the page still...ajax thing maybe
[19:53] <tyabux> joshuahoover, perhaps. I'm on a fairly slow hspa link, but then it should give the user some hint.
[19:54] <joshuahoover> tyabux: ok, good, so now you can test if everything is working well by maybe putting a small text file in your ~/Ubuntu One folder...you should get notification that it's updating and then been updated on the server
[19:54] <Nik1> this is the last output from the terminal:
[19:54] <Nik1> AttributeError: HTTPSConnection instance has no attribute '_tunnel_host'
[19:54] <joshuahoover> Nik1: you are, unfortunately, experiencing this problem: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-users/msg00275.html
[19:55] <joshuahoover> Nik1: dobey and others are looking into a fix for this issue, but in the mean time, i'm afraid to say you won't be able to connect to the ubuntu one service...many apologies for the hassles
[19:55] <Nik1> ok, no worries joshua
[19:55] <Nik1> i'll just wait for a fix :)
[19:55] <tyabux> joshuahoover, is it supposed to sync automatically, or must I do that manually?
[19:55] <Nik1> thank you very much for your help! :D
[19:55] <joshuahoover> tyabux: it should sync automatically
[19:55] <joshuahoover> Nik1: you're quite welcome...thank you for being patient and helping me troubleshoot the issue with you...really appreciate it!
[19:56] <Nik1> no problems mate, it's always a pleasure to talk to helpful ppl from the community
[19:56] <joshuahoover> tyabux: you should get a notification (in the normal ubuntu notification area - upper right of screen) noting that the file is transferring and then another when it's done
[19:56] <Nik1> have a good day/night everyone!
[19:56] <sagensand> rebooting
[19:57] <tyabux> joshuahoover, when it gets a green check in Nautilus, does that mean it's sync'ed, or must I watch for the notification or check the webui to check if it has been uploaded?
[19:58] <joshuahoover> tyabux: it should be synced...you can check the web ui to verify...but you should've seen a notification as well
[19:58] <dobey> it's supposed to mean it is synced
[19:58] <dobey> but i'd suggest checking the web ui (beta warning) :)
[19:59] <tyabux> joshuahoover, heh, I've been waiting for five minutes. I can't sit here and stare at the screen until it maybe gets synced! :)
[19:59] <joshuahoover> tyabux: right, if you check the web ui, it should show up there if it synced successfully
[20:00] <tyabux> joshuahoover, It's not.
[20:00] <joshuahoover> tyabux: ok, i think we should get a bug report filed for this
[20:01] <joshuahoover> tyabux: if you right-click on the client and select "report a problem" that will initiate a bug report and attach some log files
[20:01] <tyabux> joshuahoover, actually, it was. I just had to move away from the page and then back.
[20:01] <tyabux> joshuahoover, I didn't receive any notifications though.
[20:02] <joshuahoover> tyabux: oh, ok...not sure why you didn't see the notifications...you do normally see notifications, correct? i'm thinking for things like instant messaging and other apps that use the message notification thing in ubuntu
[20:08] <tyabux> and I get error 404 on my Contacts page..
[20:08] <tyabux> should this really be included in karmic by default?
[20:10] <tyabux> joshuahoover, yes.
[20:15] <joshuahoover> tyabux: contacts is not quite ready...we hope to have that rolled out monday...sorry for the issues there
[20:17] <tyabux> oh, no need to apologize. I think the service seems quite nice. I'm just a tad sceptical about it being included by default in less than two weeks. It's difficult to imagine that it could be stable and well tested in such a short time.
[20:19] <joshuahoover> tyabux: the file service has been tested for a long time...notes has been tested for a little while...contacts not so much...we'll need to be clear about where each of these is at...the client parts of it are tested quite a bit for all those, but the server side hasn't been as much...so it's a situation where things like the web ui may need more testing, but we can get changes out very quickly there...i want to stress that the cli
[20:21] <tyabux> "that the cl"?
[20:21] <popey> is there a document somewhere that says how you sync tomboy notes? or is it not generally available yet?
[20:23] <jcastro> popey: one sec
[20:23] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Tutorials
[20:24] <tyabux> joshuahoover, hmm. I just rebooted, and when I did so and wanted to connect to u1 again, I was sent to that page again.
[20:24] <joshuahoover> tyabux: that should not happen
[20:25] <tyabux> beautiful :)
[20:26] <tyabux> that's one of the phrases you do _not_ want to hear in computing: "that should not happen", "Woops" and "I have some bad news" :)
[20:30] <joshuahoover> tyabux: heh...can you file a bug to help track down the issues?
[20:30] <popey> jcastro: hmm, its asking me (again) to authorize this computer
[20:31] <popey> and has "None" written in the hostname field
[20:31] <jcastro> I had to auth mine twice
[20:31] <popey> ok
[20:31] <jcastro> once for file syncing and once for notes
[20:31] <jcastro> I dunno about the None part though
[20:32] <joshuahoover> popey: yes, i think the "None" part is a bug that needs to be captured...i've seen it at least once but didn't have time to go back and reproduce
[20:33] <popey> :( tomboy lockup now
[20:33]  * popey starts again
[20:34] <popey> nope, its stuck in a loop authorizing over again
[20:35] <popey> ok, worked this time
[22:03] <sageNsand> In Karmic I got U1 ver1.0.1 and a test text file on the server. It says it hasn't it was last modified 2 days ago (the day I uploaded it). I've made alot of changes to it. The cloud icon in the Notification Area always says Disconnected if thats any help. I've never seen anything saying updating or a scroll bar or icon swirling either. What am I suppose to see when I know its updating the file on the server?
[22:03] <dobey> sageNsand: click on the applet and choose "connect" ?
[22:04] <sageNsand> Thats never worked
[22:04] <sageNsand> Nothing happens
[22:05] <dobey> please right click on the applet and choose "report a problem" and follow through the process to file a bug report
[22:06] <sageNsand> so thats what makes it update huh. Thanks dobey I'll make a report
[22:06] <dobey> well, if it's disconnected, it's not going to updated anything :)
[22:07] <sageNsand> manual update...i see
[22:16] <j0nr> hiya, I just installed the client on a reinstalled machine and I can't get it to connect
[22:16] <dobey> ubuntu 9.04?
[22:17] <j0nr> yeah
[22:18] <joshuahoover> j0nr: please see https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-users/msg00275.html for more info
[22:18] <j0nr> oh ok, thats answers it then :)
[22:19] <joshuahoover> j0nr: we're working on getting it fixed
[22:19] <j0nr> cool