| cprofitt | FYI -- the article I wrote is up -- http://www.thesmartbean.com/magazine/home-schooling/introducing-your-child-to-linux/ | 00:19 |
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| LaserJock | home schooling, eh? | 00:24 |
| LaserJock | I've wondered how much Edubuntu could contribute outside of say the US | 00:24 |
| cprofitt | LaserJock, yes... they focus on home schooling but are read by others as well. | 00:24 |
| cprofitt | I got zareason included | 00:25 |
| LaserJock | ah, cool | 00:27 |
| LaserJock | I don't really know them much but we had a few emails regarding installation of Edubuntu | 00:27 |
| LaserJock | they wanted a DVD too | 00:28 |
| LaserJock | cprofitt: is Linux popular for home schoolers? | 00:28 |
| cprofitt | LaserJock, not sure... but they approached me to do the article | 00:28 |
| cprofitt | so maybe | 00:28 |
| cprofitt | it is definitely a good fit at home | 00:29 |
| LaserJock | it would | 00:29 |
| LaserJock | although often times you're also using online coursework apps | 00:29 |
| LaserJock | which might be tough to use on a Linux machine | 00:29 |
| * LaserJock thinks back | 00:31 | |
| LaserJock | waaaaay back in the day I did some online math courses | 00:31 |
| LaserJock | that's actually where I first learned about IRC | 00:31 |
| LaserJock | that'd be getting close to 15 years ago | 00:32 |
| * cprofitt nods | 00:33 | |
| cprofitt | online course offerings are getting more Linux friendly | 00:34 |
| cprofitt | many schools use Moodle or Sakai | 00:34 |
| LaserJock | later we had this cool app with a whiteboard, chat, and voice | 00:35 |
| LaserJock | I remember it was the coolest ever on a dial-up modem | 00:35 |
| jbicha | LaserJock: almost 6 hours later, my PPA build completed, and the PPA worked fine, it pulled in postgreqsl and set it up before setting up moodle | 00:36 |
| LaserJock | but we had to squeeze everything we could out of our 28.8 to get it to work | 00:36 |
| LaserJock | jbicha: what about mysql? | 00:36 |
| LaserJock | jbicha: can you select mysql instead of postgresql? | 00:36 |
| cprofitt | I remember pre -28.8 dial-up | 00:36 |
| cprofitt | actually played one of the first MMOGs over a modem | 00:37 |
| jbicha | LaserJock: let me check to make sure | 00:37 |
| * LaserJock suddenly feels very old | 00:38 | |
| cprofitt | LaserJock, older than 42? | 00:39 |
| LaserJock | I feel it anyway ;-) | 00:40 |
| cprofitt | this is the MMO I played -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shadow_of_Yserbius | 00:40 |
| cprofitt | it was back in 1993 | 00:40 |
| LaserJock | I guess it's part of being done with school | 00:41 |
| cprofitt | I got it right before they released Fates of Twinion | 00:41 |
| cprofitt | it is... | 00:41 |
| LaserJock | I was sort of in "school" mode for 11 years | 00:41 |
| cprofitt | one of the markers | 00:41 |
| cprofitt | then you hit another when you have children | 00:41 |
| LaserJock | and now that I'm doing "real life" I feel like I lost a decade :-) | 00:41 |
| cprofitt | did you get a Masters or ? | 00:41 |
| LaserJock | PhD | 00:41 |
| cprofitt | sounded like it when you said 11 years... what in? | 00:42 |
| LaserJock | Chemistry | 00:43 |
| cprofitt | I am debating going back for a Masters... working in a K-12 tends to increase the value of holding a Masters degree or higher | 00:43 |
| LaserJock | Physical Chemistry to be a bit more exact | 00:43 |
| cprofitt | its just hard to go back... | 00:43 |
| cprofitt | Nice... | 00:43 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 00:43 |
| LaserJock | that's some of why I just pushed through | 00:43 |
| cprofitt | Chemistry was interesting for me in HS | 00:43 |
| LaserJock | never even had a summer off in 11 years | 00:43 |
| cprofitt | Our teacher had a heart attack and the long term sub was a social studies teacher | 00:44 |
| LaserJock | uhhhh | 00:44 |
| LaserJock | poor sub | 00:44 |
| cprofitt | yeah... | 00:44 |
| cprofitt | it was amazing any of us passed our regents exams | 00:44 |
| jbicha | LaserJock: yes, if you use the command "sudo aptitude install moodle mysql-server php5-mysql" then it will automatically pull-in & setup mysql & not pgsql | 00:44 |
| jbicha | my patch is at bug 440098 | 00:45 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 440098 in postgresql "Edubuntu d-i fails when using postgresql as backend" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/440098 | 00:45 |
| LaserJock | hmm | 00:45 |
| LaserJock | I'm still uneasy about doing this in moodle | 00:46 |
| cprofitt | doing what in Moodle? | 00:46 |
| LaserJock | we're trying to make it easy to install | 00:47 |
| LaserJock | but the problem has always been the choice of database | 00:47 |
| LaserJock | Debian would like to keep flexibility, so they won't lock into either postgresql or mysql | 00:47 |
| jbicha | LaserJock: I don't have the pre-depends superstition, but the program won't run without a database | 00:47 |
| cprofitt | LaserJock, I can see the quandary | 00:48 |
| LaserJock | but it's been a couple year battle to get moodle to have a decent install | 00:48 |
| jbicha | LaserJock: if they don't want to be locked in, then they shouldn't preconfigure the database like the package is right now | 00:48 |
| LaserJock | they want to give the user an easy choice :-) | 00:48 |
| LaserJock | but yeah, it's not easy | 00:48 |
| LaserJock | jbicha: we need to check how this will effect upgrades | 00:49 |
| LaserJock | so for instance, what happens when a Jaunty user with mysql upgrades | 00:49 |
| LaserJock | if it was just Edubuntu's package I wouldn't have any problem | 00:50 |
| LaserJock | but I hate messing around with packages that are widely used | 00:50 |
| jbicha | LaserJock: if someone has an alternate database they can file a bug and we can add that to the pre-recommends pipe, as it was mysql or pgsql were recommended & thus 1 was installed by default anyway | 00:53 |
| jbicha | LaserJock: my mysql/moodle update was successful (there is a message not a warning that "There is already a database named moodle. Error - You must create your PostgreSQL database manually." but that message shows up on every upgrade) | 00:56 |
| LaserJock | jbicha: it didn't install postgresql? | 00:58 |
| jbicha | no | 00:58 |
| jbicha | LaserJock: yeah, there are a few things I don't like about the current moodle setup (like that message) that maybe I'll get to when Lucid devel starts up | 00:59 |
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| LaserJock | dang, Valencia has a edu distro based on Ubuntu | 01:28 |
| LaserJock | those crazy Spaniards | 01:29 |
| jbicha | join #lliurex | 01:47 |
| jbicha | oops, that channel doesn't exist | 01:47 |
| sbalneav | Evening all | 05:15 |
| alkisg | Hi sbalneav | 05:18 |
| jbicha | LaserJock: are you still pondering the pre-depends issue? | 19:16 |
| zzzzac1 | Hey, I'm curios. Do the earlier versions have applications 9.04 does not? | 19:25 |
| kunnu531 | Hi, I am new to this channel and I need some help | 20:37 |
| kunnu531 | I have hardy 8.04 version | 20:37 |
| kunnu531 | and when ever I log into KDE session I get an error client-error-bad-request CUPS server error | 20:37 |
| kunnu531 | And this doesn't happen in Gnome | 20:38 |
| kunnu531 | any ideas or suggestions please | 20:39 |
| kunnu531 | And this doesn't happen in Gnome | 20:46 |
| LaserJock | jbicha: yeah | 21:46 |
| LaserJock | kunnu531: you might try #kubuntu | 21:47 |
| LaserJock | kunnu531: or maybe #ltsp if you're using an LTSP server | 21:47 |
| * LaserJock is walking the dog and will be back in a bit | 21:48 | |
| Dreamwalker | hi | 22:31 |
| Dreamwalker | I'm an ubuntu user ... but also a student | 22:31 |
| Dreamwalker | what is de difrence between ubuntu and edubuntu? | 22:32 |
| Dreamwalker | ?? | 22:33 |
| Dreamwalker | anyone on? | 22:33 |
| sbalneav | Dreamwalker: Edubuntu = Ubuntu + Edu apps + LTSP | 23:14 |
| ties | can someone help me i cannot open exe files and idk how to conver them | 23:26 |
| ties | connert* | 23:26 |
| ties | convert* sorry | 23:26 |
| sbalneav | Run windows programs, you mean? | 23:27 |
| ties | yes | 23:28 |
| sbalneav | There's no "conversion" from exe to Linux. You can try installing the program called "Wine" which is the windows emulator. | 23:28 |
| sbalneav | But many programs don't work correctly, or at all, under wine. | 23:29 |
| ties | were do i install wine | 23:29 |
| sbalneav | You can find it in the Synaptic Package Manager. | 23:29 |
| sbalneav | Under the System -> Administration menu. | 23:30 |
| ties | thank you very much... if this does not work is there a way to download windows xp for free? | 23:32 |
| sbalneav | As far as I know, it's a commercial program you have to buy to legally use. | 23:33 |
| sbalneav | I don't use it, and don't have it. | 23:33 |
| sbalneav | The last Microsoft operating system I used was Windows 98, so I'm a little out of touch on that subject. | 23:34 |
| ties | ok thank you my computer that had Xp got a virus and thanks to ubuntu i fixed it but all of my files are for xp | 23:34 |
| ties | were can i get ubuntu programs | 23:35 |
| sbalneav | The Synaptic Package Manager has thousands of programs available that you can legally download for free. | 23:36 |
| sbalneav | It's your first, best bet. | 23:36 |
| ties | ok i will use that then do u know if there is a Nintendo 64 emulator? | 23:37 |
| sbalneav | Search in Synaptic for "nintendo". There's a bunch of hits for emulators. | 23:42 |
| ties_ | ok thank you | 23:43 |
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