[00:01] <ccheney> cjwatson: thanks
[00:06] <jdong> why doesn't /dev/fd exist on this new Karmic install... :-/
[00:07] <jdong> that is supposed to be a symlink to /proc/self/fd, no?
[00:08] <jdong> symlinking worked (tm)
[00:17] <xxtjaxx> Hi I'm trying to add my key to the keyserver but currently it seems like it doesnt work with gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-keys any help would be great
[00:22] <xxtjaxx> Can somebody help me get my keys on the keyserver?
[00:23] <xxtjaxx> Ah now it works for got to add the key name when sending my key sorry for bothering you guys
[01:50] <slangasek> ok... why is upgrading udev hanging?
[02:02] <slangasek> unpleasant things to see output by your initramfs:
[02:02] <slangasek> udevadm trigger is not permitted while udev is unconfigured.
[02:25] <jdong> is the /dev/fd symlink nonexistent for anyone other than me on Karmic?
[02:25] <TheMuso> jdong: I have it
[02:25] <TheMuso> amd64 here
[02:25] <jdong> just fresh installed a Karmic image today and *cough* (converted it to btrfs... don't look here)...
[02:26] <TheMuso> ext4
[02:26] <maco> i have it amd64 and ext4 as well
[02:26] <jdong> I'll blame it most possibly on my crackpot config then :)
[02:26] <jdong> and work up the un-laziness to boot up the karmic daily sometime $soon
[02:48] <lamont> so why is it that my karmic laptop now prefers wlan0 over eth0?
[03:11]  * lamont runs apport-collect, and decides that, no, he won't give it complete control over his launchpad account.  at least not tonight
[04:26] <ccheney> doko_: done with the upload to chinstrap
[04:51] <jdstrand> kirkland: ok good, then I'm not crazy
[04:52] <slangasek> jdstrand: surely that's orthogonal ;)
[04:55] <jdstrand> slangasek: heh. you always keep me honest :P
[08:26] <YokoZar> Found a nasty problem in current karmic -- apparently my / partition is filling up continuously because the log file is way too huge.  /var/log/syslog.1 is 600 something megabytes at the moment
[08:26] <ebroder> What are the chances of syncing kerberos-configs from Debian at this point? The version in Ubuntu still includes a krb4-config
[09:16] <mattn> morning - current karmic daily live-cd isn't able to enter X with my mobile nvidia card
[09:16] <mattn> is that a known issue?
[09:19] <mattn> erm - sorry, not nvidia -wrong notebook. it's an ati mobility radeon x600
[09:20] <mattn> getting a stacktrace from somewhere in libglx.so (GLXInitExtension)
[10:20] <xxtjaxx> Hi whats the ubuntzu equivalent to debians unstable?
[10:22] <joaopinto> xxtjaxx, ubuntu uses a different model, the current dev version is ubuntu karmic
[10:23] <xxtjaxx> ok tahnks
[10:54] <xxtjaxx> hi i get this failure when dputting my stuff to launchpad http://pastebin.ca/1624753. Why could this be?
[10:58] <siretart> xxtjaxx: don't upload binaries, lp accepts sources only
[10:59] <xxtjaxx> aha
[11:01] <xxtjaxx> Thansk
[11:02] <xxtjaxx> hmm still cant write it
[11:04] <siretart> xxtjaxx: the .upload file is not supposed to be uploaeded. the .changes file is the important one
[11:05] <xxtjaxx> yeahbut it didnt write the file for some reason
[11:06] <xxtjaxx> what section do you have for kde apps about multimedia
[13:08] <pitti> ScottK: it looks a bit confusing that you called it twice?
[13:08] <pitti> ScottK: but otherwise the events get picked up, so it's not a low-level kernel problem
[13:53] <geser> bdrung: re eclipse build: my guess it's because of the common-install-indep target
[13:53] <geser> the amd64 build complains about missing files in /usr/share. the missing files are the images moving in this target from /usr/lib/ to /usr/share
[13:54] <bdrung> geser: yes. your hint was sufficent
[13:54] <bdrung> thx for that
[13:54] <geser> and this target isn't called on amd64 (and others)
[13:54] <bdrung> geser: i have fixed in in the git repo and testing it now. will upload -0ubuntu4 soon.
[15:41] <siretart> does kubuntu also use pulseaudio by default?
[15:50] <dtchen> no
[16:03] <ScottK> pitti: I did call it twice just so I could remember which was the lid open and which was the lid close.
[16:04] <ScottK> pitti: Any suggestions on which packages I should look for changes in (I don't know a lot about this part of the system)?
[16:08] <dtchen> ScottK: mind uploading a FTBFS fix for whois for me, please? http://pastebin.com/dc948ea6
[16:09] <ScottK> dtchen: Heading off to do some stuff.  Ping me in a couple of hours if no one else got it in the meantime.
[16:09] <dtchen> ScottK: sure thing, thanks
[16:25] <mbiebl> Hi, this might be a bit OT, but what's the best way to fully automatically deploy Ubuntu 9.10 on Desktops/Workstations?
[16:25] <mbiebl> I started reading into FAI until I noticed that it had been removed for karmic
[16:30] <chrisccoulson> kees - i left this screensaver test cycling all night on my jaunty machine, without a single crash
[16:31] <chrisccoulson> so i think that the issue only seems to have affected karmic
[16:31] <siretart> mbiebl: depends on what you mean with 'the best way'. AFAIUI you have 3 options: 'd-i preseeding', 'kickstart' and 'fix FAI for karmic' :-)
[16:34] <mbiebl> siretart: could I use the sid packages on karmic? Are there alternatives to FAI that you know of?
[16:35] <azeem> mbiebl: 17:31 < siretart> mbiebl: depends on what you mean with 'the best way'. AFAIUI you have 3 options: 'd-i preseeding', 'kickstart'
[16:36] <mbiebl> siretart: what I need is, deployment over the net, installing a custom set of packages, push configuration to the client (like e.g. the hostname) or the config for libpam-mount
[16:37] <siretart> mbiebl: the biggest problem with fai in ubuntu is the kernel. we always had big trouble with unionfs over NFS. AFAIUI nobody has tried karmic's kernel yet, though.
[16:37] <mbiebl> and setting up the user
[16:37] <siretart> sounds pretty much doable with d-i preseeding
[16:39] <mbiebl> siretart: got a good howto somewhere, otherwise I'd just start investigating in that direction myself
[16:39] <siretart> if you want to use FAI, you could setup an FAI server under debian, and use an ubuntu karmic bast.tar.gz. that *should* work
[16:39] <siretart> d-i preseeding is documented in the d-i manual
[16:40] <mbiebl> siretart: ok, thanks
[18:53] <ccheney> slangasek: ping
[18:53] <ccheney> slangasek: aiui doko uploaded OOo sometime this morning after testing it, i think its being held by the freeze though
[18:54] <ScottK> ccheney: It is
[18:54] <ccheney> ScottK: ok
[19:20] <EvanCarroll> I think i found an issue in karmic with my Atheros driver being software switched off, not responding to Fn+<F5> the thinkpad key sequence.
[19:20] <EvanCarroll> right-click enable driver also doesn't work
[19:20] <EvanCarroll> I've fixed this problem through the new rfkill interface, to turn it on
[19:22] <EvanCarroll> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/395358
[19:22] <EvanCarroll> nevermind found the report
[20:24] <dotblank> Hi there I just installed my updated remastered livecd on my laptop and and im speechless. I love you guys.. This is just incredible. NEVER have I seen such an awesome release
[20:26] <cjwatson> it's nice to get praise for a change; obviously we normally only hear about it when things are going wrong. Thanks!
[20:26] <jdong> dotblank: indeed, thanks for the kind words :)
[20:27] <dotblank> I mean this is amazing... everything works out of the box.. nothing wrong... its just plain awesome
[20:28] <dotblank> Now only if adobe could be as awesome as you guys are.... and get 64 bit flash proper
[20:28] <jdong> heh
[20:29] <jdong> flash is a bit of a 64-bit headache right now in Karmic
[20:29] <cyberix_> Is the operation of Ubuntu installer explained somewhere?
[20:29] <jdong> I'd guess somewhere in ubiquity's source
[20:29] <cyberix_> Is first boot somehow different from later reboots?
[20:30] <dotblank> well the flash 10 pre release is ok
[20:31] <jdong> it segfaults firefox pretty often for me
[20:35] <dotblank> OMG
[20:35] <dotblank> OMG!
[20:35] <dotblank> I just installed cheese and my webcam is upside up.. its always been upside down even in vista
[20:37] <cyberix_> dotblank: Maybe it is upside down?
[20:39] <dotblank> cyberix_, well its built into my laptop but in 9.04 and in vista it played back the camera upside down.. the only fix was using cheese's v flip option but it was annoying because its not system wide so it did not help with skype or any other program. I spent 2 months trying to fix and never found a solution
[20:39] <cyberix_> dotblank: I'm talking about the physical object
[20:40] <dotblank> yea its inside my laptop monitor
[20:40] <dotblank> I cant flip it
[20:40] <dotblank> without flipping my laptop
[20:41] <cyberix_> The folks assembling your laptop probably installed it upside down then
[20:42] <dotblank> yup
[20:43] <dotblank> but then why does it work now
[20:43] <jdong> haha two bugs make a fix.
[20:48] <AdamSchackart> dotblank: like i said yesterday, flip your laptop and video output upside down
[20:48] <AdamSchackart> typing will be extremely awkward, but you gotta do what you gotta do amirite?
[20:50] <dotblank> AdamSchackart, but its fixed now... just how... how did it know!
[21:08] <cyberix_> I need to find out why direct rendering does not work.
[21:08] <cyberix_> It works, if I run Karmic from live cd
[21:08] <cyberix_> so it cannot be a software bug unless someone broke it since beta was released
[21:09] <cyberix_> I have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[21:09] <cyberix_> so it cannot be that
[21:09] <cyberix_> So
[21:10] <cyberix_> I did not have this graphics card when I originally installed Ubuntu
[21:10] <cyberix_> Is the installation different for different hardware?
[21:11] <cyberix_> Is there a guide for steps to be taken after swapping your graphics adapter to another model?
[21:33] <tormod> cyberix_, wrong channel, I can help you in #ubuntu-x
[22:32] <slangasek> ccheney: yes, and binutils is still in the queue, so OOo shouldn't be accepted just yet
[23:13] <Laney> am I likely to get a sync of ndesk-dbus through now? fixes 377672 which causes crashes
[23:21] <Laney> I'll just request it
[23:51] <ccheney> slangasek: ok thanks :)