[02:28] <bazhang> bruenig is still banned?
[03:25] <bazhang> maco, :)
[04:59] <ubot3> In ubot3, songliang said: what is you name??
[05:28] <bazhang> nightshade is suggesting some wildly inappropriate methods for getting hw id
[06:27] <bazhang> he seems to outright trolling in -ot now
[06:29] <mneptok> he threatened to "hack the channel" and take it over earlier.
[06:29] <mneptok> (in #u)
[06:29] <bazhang> I caught the tail end of that; now he is recommending some nasty stuff in -ot
[06:29] <mneptok> he was displeased that ops were not as fast to respond as he wants
[08:14] <MenZa> !currentissues
[08:14] <MenZa> :\
[09:17] <elky> mneptok, i missed most of that i imagine...
[09:17] <mneptok> i warned him a few times about off-topicness and such
[09:18] <mneptok> the language was the last straw. but just a kick.
[09:18] <elky> the nick is familiar to me, so...
[10:16] <Xcell> as we all know.. ##politics is and has been out of control.. that being said. please re-alocate control to the proper control as that it can be controlled. I realize  that it is difficult to be controlled through subjugated  authority as being said.     that being said.. please allocate proper authority so as that it mightbe authoritized properly.. the present authority is and has not been authorative in both nature and morale.. id like to see.. me
[10:16] <Xcell> as well as any one allocated to be capable  to be able to such tasks.. subsequently  swooly is not and has not been willfully up to the task.please update all tasks to me and or allocated persons.... please check logs for further informations
[10:17] <Xcell> thank you for your time and efforts
[10:18] <Xcell> yes.. its a crappy room.. bu t its a time saver. and has assets
[10:19] <Xcell> im sorry to post such nonsense  but i have the muscle to make this room .. being you folks give me the allocation.
[10:20] <Xcell> just give me the go ahead.. and ill make this room work.. thank you.
[10:20] <Xcell> trust me.
[10:20] <Xcell> I dont play games.
[10:20] <Xcell> nuff said.
[10:21] <Xcell> ill make this room an asset
[10:21] <Xcell> I dont play
[10:22] <Xcell> I believe in conformity.. the right way\
[10:23] <Xcell> its about time freenode made its game right
[10:23] <Xcell> rock on people..
[10:23] <Xcell> I (can) make the room work.. just give me the chance
[10:24] <Xcell> of cource allot of people say this
[10:24] <Xcell> just do it
[10:24] <Xcell> im out.. u know me.. mail me.  im out
[10:37] <Xcell> I guess everyone is out
[10:39] <Xcell> look folks.. im like you.. to tell the truth.. but lets be plain.. some can and some willfully cant.. lets giggy with it.
[10:39] <tsimpson> Xcell: we don't have anything to do with ##politics
[10:39] <tsimpson> and you are struggling to make sense
[10:40] <Xcell> tsimpson-  tell me.. if i have to ill make an exceptional monetary inception.. lets consolidate this situation.. thanks.
[10:41] <tsimpson> as I said, we have nothing to do with it, so consolidation in this particular instance or instances similar to will be unable to be done in this way
[10:42] <Xcell> its not about opinionb.. as politics has it.. and im sorry its got this far.. pretty sad as it goes.. im sorry to havs to complain
[10:42] <Xcell> opinion**
[10:43] <Xcell> im so sorry
[10:43] <tsimpson> if you have issue with one of the channels outside of the authority for the Ubuntu community please take it to the appropriate authorities. namely those responsible for the specific channel or those for the network
[10:43] <tsimpson> ie: #freenode
[10:43] <Xcell> and thpse would be?
[10:43] <Xcell> those
[10:44] <tsimpson> best place to ask is in #freenode
[10:44] <Xcell> please dont brush me off.. who might that be?
[10:52] <tsimpson> Xcell: if you have no further issues here, we have a policy of no idling, which means that we would like you to /part
[10:54] <bazhang> weird
[10:56] <tsimpson> can't be sure, but I'm guessing they speak a quite "elaborate" language, which does not translate well to english
[10:57] <tsimpson> though I was unsure if they were just trying to confuse
[10:58] <bazhang> he seems to think this channel had something to do with ##politics, judging by his comments in #freenode
[11:07] <MenZa> bazhang: And judging by his language, his homepage is Google Translate
[11:13] <gnomefreak> what are we doing with xcell?
[11:14] <gnomefreak> i saw a little bit of the convo
[11:14] <MenZa> I'm sure he has no bad intentions, he's just fairly disruptive.
[11:15] <gnomefreak> maybe try asking him to join here and go through it again since im guessing he didnt understand the warning
[11:15] <gnomefreak> ?
[11:16] <MenZa> I think his understanding of English is fairly... broken.
[11:16] <MenZa> mneptok: heh
[11:16] <MenZa> mneptok: 71-84-35-31.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com
[11:16] <MenZa> mtpk!
[11:23] <MenZa> Might I suggest a forward, Amaranth?
[11:23] <MenZa> Seems to be a person with no clue how IRC works
[11:23] <Amaranth> MenZa: a forward here?
[11:23] <MenZa> Yes
[11:24] <Amaranth> I think it's just a spammer but sure, why not
[11:24] <MenZa> Judging by the nickchanges and such, I think it's someone who wants to use the name 'Mira', has no clue how IRC works, and doesn't speak English very well
[11:24] <MenZa> As 'Miia' is a Finnish name, and kotinet.fi is a Finnish ISP, perhaps someone with a bit of Finn-fu can talk to them.
[11:25] <MenZa> (all IIRC/AFAIK)
[11:42] <bazhang> nice quit message
[11:43] <elky> another +f candidate
[11:44] <bazhang> Mira, hi
[11:52] <bazhang> miia, hello
[11:56] <gnomefreak> are you kidding! he just annoying now
[11:56] <elky> who the what the?
[11:56] <bazhang> xcell
[11:56] <gnomefreak> yeah him with the nicki changes
[11:57] <gnomefreak> s/nicki/nick
[11:57] <bazhang> miia/mira?
[11:57] <Mira> cat
[11:58] <gnomefreak> bazhang: the 2nd one
[11:58] <gnomefreak> Guest98739: please stop changeing your nick
[11:58] <bazhang> gnomefreak, they seem to be the same judging from the ip address
[11:58] <elky> topyli, can you try talk to mira when she returns?
[11:59] <gnomefreak> bazhang: ah ok i missed that
[11:59] <nalioth> gnomefreak: perhaps you should suggest they choose a nick that's not being auto-enforced?
[12:00] <gnomefreak> auto-enforced like a script?
[12:00] <tsimpson> with nickserv
[12:00] <bazhang> xyz is now known as guestabc
[12:00] <bazhang> err 1234
[12:03] <topyli> elky: i will ask what's going on
[12:03] <topyli> btw what *is* going on? :)
[12:04] <gnomefreak> nick changes if not anything else
[12:04] <topyli> ok i'll try to help with the identity crisis
[12:17] <nalioth> gnomefreak: /msg nickserv help set enforce
[12:25] <gnomefreak> nalioth: thanks looking
[15:32] <MenZa> elky: re #css: chaos reigns everywhere but #ubuntu-*
[15:34] <MenZa> sometimes I think freenode is turning into efnet.
[15:38] <MenZa> mm, trolling.
[15:38] <elky> MenZa, #css is especially foul these days. used to be ##php that was that awful, but they grew up
[15:38] <MenZa> they did? wow.
[15:38] <MenZa> maybe I should join that channel again.
[15:38] <MenZa> but yes, #css is horrid.
[15:38] <elky> ymmv, of course.
[15:38] <MenZa> ##linguistics is a pretty scary place too.
[15:53] <gnomefreak> didnt the bot used to be able to do a !lastseen $NICK?
[15:54] <gnomefreak> !seen nekosolteradyne
[15:54] <gnomefreak> ok neither work
[15:57] <gnomefreak> ok going back to being away need to get things done. please see #kubuntu-offtopic for more info on the seen command
[16:44] <miia> m,
[17:26] <tsimpson> gnomefreak: !seen hasn't existed since before ubottu, it wasn't in the code I took over
[17:42] <gnomefreak> tsimpson: ok thanks
[17:42]  * gnomefreak out
[18:42] <bazhang> Xcell, hi
[18:43] <KB1JWQ> wilker is trolling.
[18:43] <KB1JWQ> in #ubuntu
[18:45] <Xcell> bazhang-  why was i penalized for protocal.. in telling someone to google an app?.. im a simple man here to help your organization.. im confused as ive seen it done time after time to not consume the rooms critical resources and to confirm to the client how to learn search methods.. please know i am only a simple helper.. thanks
[18:45] <bazhang> KB1JWQ, cheers :)
[18:45] <bazhang> Xcell, just google it is not a solution. Period.
[18:47] <Xcell> we both know this.. but to help folks to learn and to not take up the rooms volunteers critical time.. some simple solutions adhere to a ggoogle solution.. agreed?
[18:47] <bazhang> no.
[18:47] <Xcell> then im confused
[18:48] <bazhang> if you wish to find a ubuntuforums link for them then you may do so.
[18:48] <bazhang> users *know* about google.
[18:49] <bazhang> the point of the resource is to help people, not re-direct them to google.
[18:50] <Xcell> bazhang-  i love helping folks learn.. and some times instead of baby sitting a known simple situation. a simple solution is a google search.. pardon me for being wrong.. trust me.. im not in any way fighting protocal.. im only trying to help simplify the solutions and to eliviate fustrations to the ubuntu solution.
[18:51] <Xcell> my apologizes
[18:51] <Xcell> I only know from fustrations in the ubuntu solutions came from google.. and yes.. it is difficult to new comers
[18:52] <Xcell> but the difficulty comes from difficulty.. this is the learning curve from learner ship
[18:53] <bazhang> they have google already. they may not the requisite skills to use it however.
[18:55] <Xcell> agreed.. but this is a known philosophy.. searching a known solution usually gives an answer.. why not give them the ability to search and then give a solution.. time after time ive seen ops give the last term as a solution.. am i out of place?.. and why.. being i am a convenient helper
[18:56] <bazhang> Xcell, please refrain from giving any advice if it consists only of 'google it'
[18:56] <bazhang> !google
[18:56] <bazhang> ^^
[18:57] <Xcell> ok
[18:57] <bazhang> thanks very much.
[18:58] <Xcell> i will refrain from helping in any way.. being that i feel threatened for a ban.. thank you for your time and efforts
[18:58] <bazhang> if google it is your only way; that is your choice however.
[18:59] <Xcell> i feel threatened.. that is my personal position.
[18:59] <bazhang> Xcell, thanks for joining to discuss this.
[19:00] <Xcell> am i free to ferther help?
[19:02] <Xcell> via the question. from experience.. we both know who is able.
[19:02] <Xcell> lets be frank.. can i feel free to help?
[19:03] <bazhang> Xcell, did you understand what I said about Google it as advice?
[19:03] <Xcell> i am a retired electronic engineer.. i am well capable.. and yes.
[19:04] <bazhang> great
[19:04] <Xcell> then can i count on given mistakes in company protocol?
[19:05] <bazhang> some folks dont have the technical skills to find solutions ; that is why we need to find the most helpful links for them, either via the wiki, help pages , or google.
[19:05] <Xcell> neither of are perfect.. this is why i ask
[19:05] <bazhang> and I thank you for joining.
[19:06] <Xcell> i need assurance of a no ban for my personal implimentations for solutions in protocol
[19:08] <Xcell> im not ur enemy
[19:08] <Xcell> so.. ill continue
[19:08] <bazhang> Xcell, no one threatened you with a ban to my knowledge; I just asked you to come here when you indicated you wished to discuss this issue via PM; I felt it better to have a clear and transparent discussion about channel policy wrt google as a solution
[19:08] <Xcell> and thanks
[19:08] <bazhang> thanks to you.
[19:08] <Xcell> ok
[19:23] <bazhang> !no bugs is <reply> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[19:23] <bazhang> !bugs
[19:26] <roni-riku> Hi
[19:26] <Seeker`> hi
[19:26] <bazhang> mira/miaa?
[20:06] <bazhang> miia, hi
[20:07] <miia> hi
[20:08] <miia> how are you
[20:08] <bazhang> miia, you are forwarded here from #ubuntu
[20:09] <bazhang> miia, you and mire and roni-riku were in the channel earlier, correct?
[20:10] <bazhang> err mira
[20:13] <miia> you speak finnish
[20:14] <maco> aw our Miia isn't here. they could Finn together
[20:14] <maco> er...speak Finn
[20:15] <bazhang> toplyi does
[20:16] <miia> no
[20:19] <bazhang> miia, you mira and roni-riku were in #ubuntu earlier, and now forwarded here
[20:20] <miia> mira is fi.vehkat
[20:21] <bazhang> and suomihullu is roni-riku?
[20:22] <miia> yes kyllä
[20:23] <miia> where are you from?
[20:24] <bazhang> kolme olit toimivat typerä # ubuntu aiemmin, ja ehdotti mennä # ubuntu-fi, mutta pitää vaihdat kutsumanimet eikä kuunnella pyyntöjä lopettaa.
[20:25] <bazhang> Onko selvä?
[20:25] <miia> bazhang
[20:25] <bazhang> Onko selvä? miia ?
[20:26] <miia> siistä
[20:26] <miia> ????
[20:27] <bazhang> do you understand?
[20:28] <miia> eikö me enää jutella voidaan mennä ubontuun
[20:29] <bazhang> Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[20:30] <bazhang> # ubuntu on Englanti tukea vain
[20:31] <miia> hi maco
[20:32] <bazhang> well that is the best that I and google translate can offer
[20:32] <miia> where are you from?
[20:34] <bazhang> as miia does not wish to acknowledge what was said, I think we should wait before removing the ban forward til toplyi has a chance to speak with her
[20:38] <miia> finnis please
[20:39] <bazhang> miia, see above ^^
[20:39] <miia> no no no no no
[20:42] <miia> samthing
[21:04] <miia> how old are you
[21:04] <miia> bazhang
[21:11] <Seeker`> is that really relevant?
[21:15] <miia> no
[22:03] <maco> interesting
[22:09] <Pricey> msg'ing