| jayferd | ping | 00:23 |
|---|---|---|
| jayferd | can anybody help me with an install question? | 00:25 |
| jayferd | ...anyone? | 00:27 |
| jayferd | i promise it's interesting | 00:30 |
| === rr72_ is now known as rr72 | ||
| jayferd | okay so here's my situation: http://paste.ubuntu.com/295047/ | 01:06 |
| jayferd | easier-to-read version: http://paste.ubuntu.com/295055/ | 01:08 |
| jayferd | basically, is it possible to do an install from a partition on the main hdd? | 01:12 |
| Balsaque | hey pete i'm installing xubuntu | 07:08 |
| Balsaque | _Pete_ the xubuntu seems to be going right in my dimension... | 07:18 |
| Balsaque | wow half in at 15 minutes | 07:22 |
| Balsaque | 95% at 24 minutes...wow | 07:26 |
| Balsaque | well _Pete_ilike the desktop better-and she went in under22 minutes | 07:31 |
| _Pete_ | Balsaque: ? | 07:47 |
| Balsaque | i am on 2 puters at once | 07:47 |
| Balsaque | plus th g4 lapper just installed xubu | 07:48 |
| Balsaque | but need a fliipin connector to go online | 07:48 |
| Balsaque | unless i do i lil surgery on this 8200 over here...noticed it has a 10/100 on her | 07:50 |
| Balsaque | _Pete_ are you on xubuntu jaunty? | 07:54 |
| _Pete_ | Balsaque: not any more | 07:59 |
| Balsaque | _Pete_what are you using | 07:59 |
| _Pete_ | kde3 | 07:59 |
| _Pete_ | = my favourite | 07:59 |
| Balsaque | never heard of that one? | 08:00 |
| Balsaque | is that kubuntu | 08:00 |
| _Pete_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_3 | 08:00 |
| _Pete_ | currently kubuntu = kde4 | 08:01 |
| _Pete_ | I dont like kde4 at all | 08:01 |
| Balsaque | cross platform.. | 08:03 |
| Balsaque | so what made you chooes it over the bazillions out there | 08:03 |
| Balsaque | choose* | 08:04 |
| _Pete_ | simple: it works (as I want) | 08:04 |
| Balsaque | does it have terminal? | 08:04 |
| _Pete_ | of coz | 08:05 |
| Balsaque | i saw the big clock on it looked a lil like puppy mixed with vista home premium too me | 08:06 |
| _Pete_ | http://quadcore.homeunix.net/~petria/tmp/kde3.jpg | 08:06 |
| Balsaque | that was me on there! | 08:07 |
| Balsaque | i like the system monitor on the side cool | 08:07 |
| Balsaque | there are so many of these...i cant decide which one ilike | 08:07 |
| _Pete_ | it is gkrellm | 08:07 |
| _Pete_ | .. apt-get install gkrellm | 08:08 |
| Balsaque | i loaded onw with xp pro sp3, i ubuntu 904 i xubu and 3 more to go | 08:08 |
| Balsaque | i want all 7 to be different | 08:08 |
| Balsaque | plus one leopard forgot the g4 | 08:08 |
| Balsaque | then that ole 400mgz i have been usin willget puppy or something really lightweight | 08:09 |
| Balsaque | it coughs a lil on ubun | 08:09 |
| Balsaque | like this linux stuff because i really despise anti virus software and i dont use any on my ubuntu | 08:12 |
| Balsaque | as i click thru the xubu it really seems just like ubuntu...but if its quicker ill like it better | 08:13 |
| Balsaque | says intel R pentium R 4 cpu 2.4ghz 49.2 disk space 496.9 memory (weird numbers-not what my invoice says?) | 08:16 |
| Balsaque | says xubuntu used up 1.7 | 08:16 |
| Balsaque | hmmm....60gig hd minus 1.7 + 49.2 ???thats some weird math | 08:17 |
| Balsaque | opps meant 60-1.7=49.2? | 08:17 |
| Balsaque | how can xubuntu take only 1.7...but drop my disk space from 60 down to 49.2 | 08:18 |
| _Pete_ | what's the point? | 08:25 |
| _Pete_ | just use it if works | 08:25 |
| _Pete_ | wondering (stupid) number is not going to get you anywhere | 08:25 |
| Balsaque | when you put a OS in a mchine that uses 1.7 of the disk, how do you get down to 49.2....there is no point, i am asking you if you know why, if you don't then i really don't care. | 08:27 |
| _Pete_ | I dont | 08:28 |
| _Pete_ | because of this: | 08:28 |
| _Pete_ | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on | 08:28 |
| _Pete_ | /dev/mapper/vg0-root 1.2T 699G 460G 61% / | 08:28 |
| Balsaque | allelulah | 08:30 |
| _Pete_ | and coz this happens to be raid0 with 4 sata-drivers | 08:31 |
| _Pete_ | it's also fast | 08:31 |
| Balsaque | well since i can't leave well enoough alone i am going to get real stupid and start taking parts of one computer so i can get this lil xubu on the internet... | 08:33 |
| _Pete_ | good luck | 08:33 |
| Balsaque | from what i can see you just reach in there grab the flippin ehternet 10/100 and rip er out straight up! | 08:34 |
| Balsaque | no swrews at all | 08:35 |
| Balsaque | is out and it didnt break yet | 08:36 |
| Balsaque | just wont go in the new one dmmmmit | 08:49 |
| sabat | My WindowManager seems to have disabled itself somehow. and everytime I reboot it runs Krusader. | 08:49 |
| sabat | I'm not sure what happened here. | 08:50 |
| sabat | any ideas on how to get my wm back? | 08:50 |
| Balsaque | i wish i could help you i have no idea what you are talking about | 08:56 |
| Balsaque | new ti linux myself | 08:56 |
| Balsaque | done... | 08:59 |
| homebrewcider | Hi, I'm wondering if someone can help me. I have a server running xubuntu 8.10. It has a 40g HDD, and a 1 TB HDD, which must be formatted in FAT32 (for a PVR). I have it mounted where I want it (media/data) but only root can read/write to it. I would like to get it user RWable. In my main PC I have a FAT32 formatted drive, but the options on fstab don't seem to get the server 1 tb user RWable. Can anyone help please? | 09:10 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | wow this is really reallly really fast | 09:30 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | hey _techie_ i just pulled off major flippin surgery-where the heck were ya | 09:31 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | gues i can wipe out balsaque....hang on | 09:32 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | this is way too cool...time for a cold one | 09:36 |
| _Techie_ | what did ya do? | 09:39 |
| _Techie_ | dangit, this is why i wish i had my bouncer online | 09:40 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | i took the ethernet out of the 8200 and tossed it in one of the 8250's because the 8250's only have what looks to be an rj45 plug hole and i installed xubu and threw it in where the old 400mgz dell was | 09:41 |
| _Techie_ | wait, a standard adsl internet router uses rj45 | 09:42 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | i duuno thats why i took the ethernet out of the 8200 never saw that other type maybe it would of worked looks a lil bigger so i just used a oart that looked like the thing in the back of my old timer | 09:43 |
| _Pete_ | _Techie_: yo | 09:43 |
| _Techie_ | yo pete, howzit | 09:43 |
| _Pete_ | trying to wake up | 09:43 |
| _Techie_ | haha | 09:43 |
| _Pete_ | am here | 09:43 |
| _Pete_ | _Techie_: do you want ircproxy ? | 09:44 |
| _Techie_ | hey bal, can you pastebin me the output of lspci please | 09:44 |
| _Pete_ | I am currently using bitlbee | 09:44 |
| _Techie_ | yeah, i had one set up on my australian server but thats offline while its tranferred | 09:44 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | no friggen clue howto do it | 09:44 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | what out put? | 09:45 |
| _Techie_ | all of it | 09:45 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | what is it? what for? | 09:45 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | is that the driver page | 09:45 |
| _Techie_ | it gives me the output of your devices | 09:45 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | so go to terminal and type that | 09:45 |
| _Techie_ | yeah | 09:46 |
| _Techie_ | if you want me to get you a command to auto do it i can | 09:46 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | what is that | 09:46 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | hang on do i type sudo 1st | 09:46 |
| _Techie_ | lspci | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us | 09:47 |
| _Techie_ | if it needed sudo i would have asked | 09:47 |
| _Pete_ | _Techie_: cool, your skillz do amaze me :) | 09:47 |
| _Techie_ | lol, i didnt write that command | 09:48 |
| _Techie_ | but i do understand how it works | 09:49 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | i don't have any skills... | 09:49 |
| _Techie_ | oh yeah, i had a question about bitlbee, is it able to keep 2 users connnected to the same account in sync? | 09:49 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | ok its ready now tell me what the f it is | 09:49 |
| _Techie_ | lspci lists all pci devices | 09:50 |
| _Pete_ | _Techie_: only tried with one MSN, but I guess yes | 09:50 |
| _Techie_ | the other alternative is ZNC, that comes with the ability to use plugin modules | 09:51 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | gonna have to instal curl | 09:51 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | and it tells me how | 09:51 |
| _Techie_ | yeah, sudo apt-get install curl | 09:51 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | what is it in a nutbag...i mean nut shell | 09:52 |
| _Techie_ | pete, ever done any work with sendmail servers? | 09:52 |
| _Pete_ | _Techie_: no | 09:52 |
| _Techie_ | which part do you want me to explain bal? | 09:52 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | not everything just what is curl | 09:53 |
| _Techie_ | curl is a way of sending data using GET and POST | 09:54 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | i mean dont i know my pci's when i put it in there were none except the vi card | 09:54 |
| _Pete_ | _Techie_: you know nc is better? | 09:54 |
| _Techie_ | huh, nc... sorry if i seem to be lacking concentration, im at a mates place watching a movie | 09:55 |
| _Techie_ | what is nc? | 09:55 |
| _Pete_ | wrong move | 09:55 |
| _Pete_ | put them to learn linux instead | 09:56 |
| _Techie_ | they are linux folks | 09:56 |
| _Techie_ | they are the people who got me started | 09:56 |
| _Pete_ | NC(1) BSD General Commands Manual NC(1) | 09:56 |
| _Pete_ | NAME nc - arbitrary TCP and UDP connections and listens | 09:56 |
| _Pete_ | man nc | 09:56 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | this one is ten time 50 times faster than my old timer | 09:56 |
| _Pete_ | very powerfull tool | 09:56 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | when i called dell they sad it has a good vid card too nvidia | 09:57 |
| _Techie_ | yeah, thats why im getting you to output lspci | 09:57 |
| _Techie_ | coz i reckon you could probably run compiz quite happily | 09:57 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | what will i do with compiz...hear that name all the time | 09:58 |
| _Pete_ | Balsaq_Xubu: you should think otherwise | 09:58 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | i gotta mess with t for awhile ist i wonder if it will elet me play youtube vids | 09:58 |
| _Pete_ | Balsaq_Xubu: like -> what would I like to do= | 09:58 |
| _Pete_ | when you know that | 09:58 |
| _Pete_ | then you can seek best tools for that | 09:58 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | prfound...thank you Pete! | 09:59 |
| _Pete_ | if you, like you try to, do otherwise around | 09:59 |
| _Pete_ | it's pointless | 09:59 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | oh i will just figuring some things out here all new | 09:59 |
| _Pete_ | then again, what is your point? | 10:00 |
| _Techie_ | brb | 10:01 |
| _Pete_ | obiviously you have one | 10:01 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | still not sure what you are asking me but whatever it is i am sure you put a lot of thoought into it | 10:02 |
| _Pete_ | but Balsaq_Xubu can you say what iti is? | 10:02 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | i don't recall trying to make a point just now | 10:02 |
| _Pete_ | ok | 10:02 |
| _Pete_ | maybe I am trying to be realistic again | 10:02 |
| _Pete_ | but since is part of my job, hard to not do so | 10:03 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | ok now i see what you mean pete: ist decide what i want the puter to do...then pick out the best downloads | 10:05 |
| _Pete_ | something like that | 10:05 |
| _Pete_ | you should know how to use it | 10:06 |
| _Pete_ | not how it can use you | 10:06 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | my main goals are: online videos, speed, speed, speed, email , word processing and so far that is it | 10:06 |
| _Techie_ | the second one is already achieved | 10:06 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | but its so fast now i guess forget the speed | 10:06 |
| _Pete_ | well spoken on computers | 10:06 |
| _Pete_ | best way to achive those is money | 10:06 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | ive never seen speed like this | 10:06 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | i returned a quad core w/ 6g ram and vista and it wasnt as fast | 10:07 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | you'll have to excuse my exuberance | 10:07 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | this thing is from 2003 | 10:08 |
| _Pete_ | you are looking back | 10:09 |
| _Pete_ | I am looking forward | 10:09 |
| _Pete_ | I dont care what was 2003 | 10:09 |
| _Pete_ | but are very intresting to see like +5 years from now | 10:09 |
| _Pete_ | are/am | 10:10 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | i wnt a new one but the new quad vista computer was so cheap it really turned me off maybe you have had better luck with the new ones | 10:10 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | maybe the i7 will be good | 10:10 |
| _Pete_ | there's no luck needed | 10:11 |
| _Pete_ | only money | 10:11 |
| _Techie_ | or skill | 10:11 |
| _Pete_ | yes | 10:11 |
| _Pete_ | with later you get first | 10:11 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | pete maybe you can cut me am loan | 10:11 |
| _Pete_ | Balsaq_Xubu: no thanks | 10:12 |
| _Techie_ | so pete, what do you actually do for a job anyway? | 10:12 |
| _Pete_ | I code programs for n900 | 10:14 |
| _Techie_ | sweet | 10:14 |
| _Pete_ | http://www.linkedin.com/pub/petri-airio/5/960/540 | 10:15 |
| _Pete_ | like this | 10:15 |
| _Techie_ | cool | 10:17 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | Pete are you part of the ubuntu staff | 10:18 |
| _Pete_ | Balsaq_Xubu: no | 10:18 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | you seem to prefer this channel or do you frequent others | 10:19 |
| _Pete_ | as said | 10:19 |
| _Pete_ | I like xfce | 10:19 |
| _Pete_ | but more I like old kde3.xx | 10:20 |
| _Pete_ | but more likely I like my current job | 10:20 |
| _Pete_ | where everything you come with is hitech-very-new | 10:20 |
| _Pete_ | Balsaq_Xubu: so your thinking of how to put some old-dated comp to work is quite irrelevant for me | 10:21 |
| _Techie_ | quite relevant to me though, its what i do | 10:22 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | Pete: you have made that clear so put some earplugs in if i meantion the age of my computer what can i say | 10:22 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | i like the new ones toobut they kinda lost me there when they just kept growwing the footprint of th OS | 10:23 |
| _Pete_ | I had have access to computers like | 10:23 |
| _Pete_ | 64cpus & many gigas mem | 10:23 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | its like they want you to but a loaded computer and 3 years later its seem like junk again | 10:23 |
| _Pete_ | but after all | 10:24 |
| _Pete_ | it doesnt really matter | 10:24 |
| _Pete_ | Balsaq_Xubu: well that is known fact | 10:24 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | so you seem so well versed incomputers but when iwas installing a few people came in with soemquestions and i noticed you remained silent | 10:25 |
| _Pete_ | Balsaq_Xubu: it is mostly coz I dont understand your english | 10:26 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | so Techie did you check shpping rates? | 10:32 |
| Balsaq_Xubu | BRB | 10:33 |
| _Techie_ | on the whole box it would be killer | 10:33 |
| _Techie_ | welcome back bal | 10:38 |
| Balsaq | _Techie_ it wont play the online vids says i need flash..wich is best: yum for linux, tar.gz for linux, rpm for linux, deb for ubuntu 8.04+ ?? | 10:39 |
| Balsaq | i suppose i can experimant | 10:40 |
| _Techie_ | you will want the .deb | 10:41 |
| Balsaq | but i am on xubuntu 904 now | 10:41 |
| Balsaq | ok thanks doing it | 10:41 |
| Balsaq | do i want to open or save | 10:43 |
| _Techie_ | save | 10:43 |
| _Techie_ | then open it | 10:43 |
| Balsaq | ok | 10:44 |
| Balsaq | hmmm wil have to study says dpendency not satisfiable | 10:49 |
| Balsaq | prolly casue they want 512 ram and even though i have it xubu says i have 496? | 10:49 |
| Balsaq | i have all the other requirements and more | 10:49 |
| Balsaq | i am going to put it up to 1g ram soon | 10:49 |
| Balsaq | maybe 2 | 10:49 |
| Balsaq | either that or they want ubuntu | 10:50 |
| Balsaq | no biggie ill figure it out | 10:50 |
| Balsaq | brb | 10:53 |
| Balsaq | _Techie_it loks like i have to do terminal sudo command i found on adobe... | 11:09 |
| _Techie_ | kk | 11:09 |
| Balsaq | the about restricted...ever do it | 11:09 |
| Balsaq | whats the command to make sure there is no flash in here now Techie | 11:10 |
| Balsaq | frsh install really cant be here huh | 11:10 |
| _Techie_ | if you havent installled flash, then theres no flash | 11:10 |
| Balsaq | ok and i guess we all assume that the built in choices are not the way too gi huh | 11:11 |
| Balsaq | gi=go | 11:11 |
| Balsaq | can you play the vids Techie? | 11:15 |
| Balsaq | the terminal command from adobe didnt work | 11:15 |
| Balsaq | _techie_ do you know the terminal command to see what i did install | 11:21 |
| janhouse | where do I put xfce themes? | 11:27 |
| knome | janhouse, ~/.themes or /usr/share/themes | 11:30 |
| janhouse | thx :) | 11:30 |
| janhouse | can I use themes from gnome? | 11:30 |
| knome | depends on if you mean icon themes or window decoration themes | 11:34 |
| knome | or gtk themes | 11:34 |
| Balsaq | anyone here know how to instal flash | 11:39 |
| knome | sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ? | 11:40 |
| Balsaq | thanks knome will try now | 11:41 |
| Balsaq | says cant find the package | 11:44 |
| Balsaq | do i need to go insynaptic and find it first knome | 11:44 |
| Balsaq | or add remove? ill look i guess lost | 11:45 |
| knome | you have to enable multiverse -repositories | 11:45 |
| knome | you can do that in for example, synaptic | 11:47 |
| Balsaq | ok | 11:48 |
| Balsaq | i just installed xubu and now i see they want me to do the updates,,,this may be why i am having trouble? | 11:50 |
| Balsaq | whaddya think knome | 11:50 |
| Balsaq | may as well take em and then see what happens | 11:51 |
| nic1 | hello..does xubuntu support skype? | 12:03 |
| _Techie_ | yes, there is a version available | 12:03 |
| nic1 | _Techie_, can you please tel me that version? | 12:03 |
| nic1 | i am trying to install but getting stuck with errors | 12:04 |
| _Techie_ | do you want 32bit or 64bit? | 12:04 |
| _Techie_ | http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-32 for 32bit | 12:05 |
| _Techie_ | http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-64 for 64bit | 12:05 |
| nic1 | 32 bit | 12:06 |
| _Techie_ | then the first link is for you | 12:07 |
| nic1 | i downloaded it, wen i tried to install, it tells check the permissions | 12:08 |
| _Techie_ | when installing applications you need to use your sudo password | 12:09 |
| nic1 | i dint install with apt-get right? | 12:09 |
| _Techie_ | nope | 12:09 |
| nic1 | i am actually using xfce session, not xdesktop exactly | 12:09 |
| _Techie_ | doesnt make a difference | 12:10 |
| nic1 | kind of confused, can yu please tel me lil clear | 12:10 |
| nic1 | ok | 12:10 |
| _Techie_ | follow this link http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-32 | 12:10 |
| _Techie_ | it will ask you if you want to save a file | 12:10 |
| _Techie_ | save it | 12:10 |
| _Techie_ | run that file | 12:10 |
| nic1 | i saved it, when i tried to run install the package i am getting error | 12:11 |
| _Techie_ | what error | 12:11 |
| nic1 | package might be corrupted or you do not have permissions | 12:11 |
| _Techie_ | it should prompt you for your password for sudo | 12:12 |
| nic1 | i am not getting you | 12:12 |
| _Techie_ | okay, other alternative... im not sure on syntax but try | 12:13 |
| _Techie_ | sudo apt-get install /path/to/file | 12:13 |
| nic1 | both are different right? install the package is through GUI, and the other one is in the terminal.. | 12:13 |
| nic1 | ok | 12:13 |
| nic1 | sudo apt-get install /home/username/skype-ubuntu-intrepid_2.1.0.47-1_i386.deb , i ran this, file exists inthat location, but it tells package does not exist | 12:14 |
| _Techie_ | im getting comfused here | 12:15 |
| _Techie_ | confused* | 12:15 |
| _Techie_ | when running from the CLI it says the file does not exist | 12:16 |
| _Techie_ | and when running from GUI, it doesnt ask you for your password and return invalid permissions | 12:16 |
| nic1 | yes | 12:16 |
| _Techie_ | thats wack | 12:17 |
| _Techie_ | my laptop has xfce and even that asks for my password | 12:17 |
| _Techie_ | anyway, i need to get some sleep, its past midnight | 12:19 |
| janhouse | how can I make xfce's network manager manage my eth0? | 12:23 |
| janhouse | I have fresh xubuntu install | 12:23 |
| janhouse | I have to write sudo ifconfig eth0 up and then sudo dhclient to make internet work | 12:24 |
| _Techie_ | it should manage it automatically | 12:24 |
| janhouse | well, it doesn't | 12:24 |
| janhouse | xubuntu jaunty | 12:24 |
| _Techie_ | it should appear in the drop down menu on the top bar | 12:24 |
| janhouse | it doesn't | 12:24 |
| janhouse | any ideas? | 12:24 |
| _Techie_ | nope, but you could use a script to manage it | 12:25 |
| _Techie_ | anyway, goodnight #xubuntu ill see you in the morning | 12:28 |
| janhouse | it had something in /etc/network/interfaces | 12:28 |
| janhouse | I commented it out and will se what happens | 12:28 |
| janhouse | on gnome you had to do it to make network-manager manage it | 12:29 |
| Balsaq | ficed it thank youknome plays all the online vids peret and got all the sound on...now i know how to help someone do it...it was the updates holding me back and the that sudo command just forced it | 12:29 |
| Balsaq | ficed=fixed | 12:29 |
| knome | Balsaq, okay. | 12:29 |
| Balsaq | unreal | 12:30 |
| Balsaq | i gotta master the terminal..the terminal just took control and forced it | 12:30 |
| Balsaq | knome you are the man.... | 12:31 |
| knome | Balsaq, ;) | 12:32 |
| knome | Balsaq, thanks | 12:32 |
| Balsaq | i owe you | 12:32 |
| Balsaq | where can i buy the book of terminal commands? | 12:35 |
| Balsaq | we have barnes and noble here | 12:35 |
| knome | Balsaq, i suppose you could get some *really* cheap ones from amazon.* | 12:36 |
| Balsaq | well for this i would spend the xtra bucks if i knew there was a book that really covered it well | 12:36 |
| knome | well, tbh, the best way is to read from internet | 12:37 |
| knome | manual pages etc. cover the commands really well, and they could change from time to time | 12:37 |
| Balsaq | ok, i could print the pages and make my own | 12:37 |
| Balsaq | i really want to nail it | 12:37 |
| Balsaq | when i typed that non free thing the thing just lit up | 12:37 |
| knome | http://www.amazon.com/Linux-System-Commands-Patrick-Volkerding/dp/0764546694/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1255779471&sr=1-19 | 12:38 |
| knome | "24 used from $0.35" | 12:38 |
| Balsaq | wow ill have to see which one includes all of it | 12:40 |
| knome | http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=ubuntu+command+line&x=0&y=0 <- these also | 12:40 |
| Balsaq | id do a used if it had all of it of course maybe the write up new ones all the time | 12:40 |
| knome | might be a bit more expensive, but they are newer and cover ubuntu, apparently | 12:40 |
| Balsaq | yeah ill get the good one if it has more | 12:42 |
| Balsaq | until you master terminal its like drowning | 12:42 |
| knome | i think the latter will cover *buntu* better | 12:42 |
| Balsaq | tell me is buntu style linuc considered the best or most modern? | 12:43 |
| Balsaq | i just started a week or 2 ago | 12:43 |
| Balsaq | i am hooked | 12:43 |
| knome | mmh, well it has the lowest learning curve, i think | 12:43 |
| Balsaq | so its linux for dummies | 12:43 |
| knome | a bit maybe | 12:43 |
| knome | ubuntu is based on debian, so they have a lot in common | 12:43 |
| Balsaq | see i have a puppy linux disc too i am getting ready to learn...that prolly hard vore huh? | 12:44 |
| Balsaq | prolly have too hook up everything with terminal on that one | 12:45 |
| knome | well puppy is harder, yeah | 12:49 |
| knome | lunch, bbl -> | 12:49 |
| Balsaq | ok thanks again | 12:49 |
| janhouse | how can I drag shortcuts to programs from menu to panel? | 13:29 |
| janhouse | seems like it is impossible | 13:29 |
| knome | janhouse, you can't in xfce | 13:32 |
| nikolam | janhouse, you can use quicklauncher in panel to star applications | 13:32 |
| janhouse | ok | 13:32 |
| janhouse | and where can I manage startup apps? | 13:32 |
| janhouse | I want to run compiz on startup | 13:32 |
| janhouse | and skype | 13:32 |
| nikolam | right click on lanel, you can add launcher for bigger icon | 13:32 |
| nikolam | you could put them on .bashrc file in home dir Or open settings manager and select autostarted applications | 13:34 |
| nikolam | then click add and add them janhouse | 13:35 |
| janhouse | cool, thx :) | 13:38 |
| janhouse | Can I enable compiz in settings manager? | 13:38 |
| janhouse | or I have to run compiz --replace | 13:38 |
| janhouse | and is there some task manager like on gnome where I can see what programs are running and have options to kill them | 13:40 |
| janhouse | with gui | 13:40 |
| nikolam | janhouse, you can continue to use system monitor from gnome | 13:41 |
| janhouse | ok, thx | 13:41 |
| nikolam | as a metter a fact, with using xfapplet xfce applet, you can also continue to use even gnome applets inside xfce | 13:42 |
| nikolam | package is named gnome-system monitor | 13:42 |
| nikolam | as here with me, compositing is turned on in settings manager> window manager tweaks> compositor | 13:43 |
| janhouse | wait | 13:43 |
| janhouse | how can I add gnome panel applets to xfce panel? | 13:43 |
| nikolam | after that you turn compiz on (i don`t turn it on regular basis so I would need to look for that) | 13:43 |
| nikolam | you just add xfapplet applet to xfce panel | 13:44 |
| nikolam | and from there you just choose installed gnome applets :) | 13:44 |
| nikolam | (previously installed with synaptic, of course) | 13:44 |
| janhouse | nikolam, window manager tweaks is empty for me | 13:50 |
| nikolam | janhouse, what version you installed? | 13:52 |
| nikolam | of xubuntu? | 13:52 |
| janhouse | jaunty | 13:53 |
| nikolam | i am on hardy 8.04/LTS | 14:02 |
| nikolam | janhouse, we have great wiki, btw, wiki.ubuntu.com | 14:04 |
| nikolam | also ubuntuforums.com is plce fith tons of answers :) | 14:04 |
| nikolam | ubuntuforums.org , sorry :) | 14:05 |
| skavicious | Hello guys! | 15:12 |
| skavicious | HOlaaaaa! hellooo! how are ya!? | 15:13 |
| nikolam | skavicious, nice, and you? :) | 15:18 |
| janhouse | ok, great | 15:22 |
| janhouse | now it works good enough | 15:22 |
| janhouse | only sad thing is that xfce main menu is kind of slow | 15:22 |
| janhouse | it should keep the contents of it in ram or something | 15:23 |
| janhouse | on machine with 254mb ram and pentium 4 processor it is kind of slow | 15:23 |
| nikolam | janhouse, i know, menu is slow a bit | 15:24 |
| nikolam | janhouse, also it was leaking memory in previous versiond, i think now that is fixed | 15:25 |
| nikolam | janhouse, check out its memory usage after few days of uptime with no logout | 15:25 |
| nikolam | janhouse, i think you can set that application menu is invoked with right click on desktop, that way it is there only when needed etc | 15:26 |
| likemindead | RAM's cheap. I'd up the RAM to _at least_ 512MB, janhouse. | 15:26 |
| janhouse | it is not my computer. I am installing it for friends. | 15:26 |
| janhouse | yes, I will tell them to buy more ram. | 15:27 |
| nikolam | yes, more cheap ram is best upgrade | 15:27 |
| janhouse | Some time ago I used pentium 2 computer with slackware and xfce | 15:27 |
| janhouse | had ~128mb ram | 15:27 |
| janhouse | it was sooo slow but I had fun learning to use linux :) | 15:28 |
| janhouse | this year I got rid of MS WIndows. Feel happy now :D | 15:29 |
| likemindead | I haven't used Windoze /at all/ in 2+ years now. :-) | 15:31 |
| baudsmk | I just installed Xubuntu Karmic and many of the applications dont work. For example, users-admin | 15:47 |
| baudsmk | I get the error: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 | 15:47 |
| baudsmk | @baudsmoke:/usr/bin$ users-admin | 15:47 |
| baudsmk | No protocol specified | 15:47 |
| baudsmk | (users-admin:3015): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 | 15:47 |
| likemindead | I'm sure it'll be sorted out by Oct 29th, baudsmk, when the official final release is. | 15:50 |
| likemindead | Did you submint a bug report? | 15:50 |
| likemindead | !bug | 15:50 |
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| baudsmk | If I have Windows XP and Xubuntu installed on the same hard disk but different partitions can Xubuntu access the Windows XP partition? | 15:52 |
| baudsmk | nm, I figured it out | 15:55 |
| baudsmk | sudo mount /dev/sda1 ./test | 15:55 |
| likemindead | !ntfs | 15:56 |
| ubottu | To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE | 15:56 |
| baudsmk | I would like to access my cell phone via USB | 15:58 |
| baudsmk | it has a FAT file system | 15:58 |
| baudsmk | !NTFS-3g | 16:00 |
| ubottu | ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions | 16:00 |
| baudsmk | Nothing in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ works | 16:04 |
| mhall119 | I need some XFCE help | 16:16 |
| mhall119 | is anyone in here familiar with the way Xubuntu starts XFCE? | 16:16 |
| Arty | Hi | 16:20 |
| Arty | I installed XFCE on my Ubuntu a few months ag | 16:20 |
| Arty | and it screwed up my login screen | 16:20 |
| Arty | now in login preferences, I can't change the theme of the login screen | 16:20 |
| Arty | does anybody know what is wrong? | 16:21 |
| Arty | The option to change the theme isn't there. | 16:21 |
| baudsmk | I am guessing something with gdm | 16:21 |
| Arty | It's not in gdmsetup | 16:21 |
| Arty | it's -supposed- to be apparently, but now it isn't | 16:22 |
| mhall119 | is the option there, just disabled? | 16:22 |
| Arty | Well | 16:22 |
| Arty | In the window "Login Window Preferences" | 16:22 |
| Arty | and I click on the "Local" tab | 16:22 |
| Arty | and there's nothing about themes, but in the screenshots I see they are. | 16:23 |
| Arty | it's just Style, Background, Behaviour, logo, Menu Bar, and Welcome Message | 16:23 |
| Arty | nothing else. | 16:24 |
| Arty | Oh, nevermind | 16:24 |
| Arty | Figured it out, feel so stupid now | 16:24 |
| Arty | it's because i had the "Plain" style selected, not the "Themed" style | 16:25 |
| sco | hello? | 16:29 |
| baudsmk | hello | 16:29 |
| sco | hi | 16:29 |
| sco | i am a new xubuntu user. i came here for help | 16:29 |
| baudsmk | ok. | 16:30 |
| sco | i have installed the latest xubuntu stable version on my laptop | 16:30 |
| sco | all the hardware seems to be supported, but my volume wheel does not control the volume | 16:31 |
| sco | my laptop is a toshiba satellite a300 | 16:31 |
| baudsmk | Your volume wheel needs software | 16:31 |
| baudsmk | give me a minute | 16:31 |
| sco | thank you | 16:31 |
| sco | are you still here, baudsmk? | 16:40 |
| baudsmk | YES | 16:40 |
| baudsmk | sorry, I thought you were in a diff channel | 16:40 |
| baudsmk | lol | 16:40 |
| sco | no worries. what can i do to fix this problem? | 16:41 |
| baudsmk | it will require some searching around on the web for the hot key support. Does your mute button work? ...other keys? | 16:42 |
| baudsmk | !bug | 16:42 |
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| sco | according to the keybaord, pressing FN + ESC toggles mute | 16:43 |
| sco | but when i press it, nothing happens | 16:43 |
| sco | let me try my other hotkeys | 16:43 |
| sco | none of my FN hotkeys work | 16:44 |
| sco | they all work fine in windows. i guess windows came with the right software | 16:45 |
| baudsmk | some of the hotkeys can be changed. For example I set my Windows_Key+D to show my desktop. That was easy. I forget the packages to install to do more elaborate shortcut keys | 16:45 |
| sco | how do i make WIN + D do show desktop? i miss that feature too | 16:46 |
| sco | right now i'm searching for toshiba linux hotkey support. thanks for your help so far. i guess i just didn't know what to look for | 16:47 |
| baudsmk | Im looking for it again, hang on | 16:48 |
| knome | sco, see Application -> Settings -> Keyboard -> Application Shortcuts | 16:48 |
| baudsmk | settings editor is another place to look | 16:48 |
| baudsmk | under keyboard-shortcuts | 16:48 |
| baudsmk | I think they call the Windows Key "<super>" | 16:49 |
| knome | yes, because the key is not a "windows" key in all keyboards, and imo shouldn't be in any kb | 16:49 |
| baudsmk | Under Settings --> Window Manager | 16:51 |
| sco | i am in Settings > Window Manager | 16:52 |
| sco | in the Keyboard tab there is a line that says "Show Desktop <ctrl><alt>D" | 16:52 |
| sco | well, i don't know how to changef it to "<super>D", but at least now i know there is another shortcut for it | 16:54 |
| baudsmk | not in my settings. Must be because I am using Karmic Koala I just installed it | 16:54 |
| baudsmk | double click it then press the keys you want to change it to | 16:55 |
| baudsmk | setting the keyboard is confusing | 16:56 |
| baudsmk | so many choices | 16:56 |
| baudsmk | too many keyboard tabs in difference places | 16:56 |
| sco | yeah, lol | 16:56 |
| sco | double-clicking the option doesn't seem to let me change it | 16:56 |
| sco | double clicking the line displays a wee window that tells me the mane of the shortcut and the keyboard command, but doesn't let me edit it | 16:57 |
| sco | it does let me 'clear' the shortcut, though. weird | 16:58 |
| baudsmk | in that wee window just type | 16:58 |
| sco | aha! | 16:58 |
| baudsmk | it is listening for you to set the key combination | 16:58 |
| sco | okay, it's set to "<super>d" now | 16:58 |
| sco | thanks, it works | 16:58 |
| sco | that window is confusing though. maybe it should explain itself better | 16:59 |
| baudsmk | I noticed even sudo /usr/bin/xfce4-settings-editor doesnt let you edit the settings lol | 16:59 |
| baudsmk | oh, I can Edit but not Add | 16:59 |
| sco | about the hotkey problem btw, i found something that might work | 17:00 |
| sco | some software called FnFX | 17:00 |
| sco | hasn't been updated since 2004, though | 17:01 |
| sco | and i have to install it manually, from source :( | 17:01 |
| baudsmk | did you install the programs hotkeys, hotkey-setup, and/or autokeys in the package manager? | 17:01 |
| sco | not unless they were preinstalled | 17:01 |
| baudsmk | install fnfxd from the package manager | 17:02 |
| sco | is that the one in Applications > System > Synaptic Package Manager? | 17:03 |
| baudsmk | yes | 17:03 |
| baudsmk | that is your all-in-one software super wizard with god like power | 17:04 |
| sco | hahaha | 17:04 |
| sco | i'm starting to warm to how linux manages its software | 17:04 |
| sco | windows equivalent of a package manager is only good for removing apps | 17:05 |
| sco | okay, fnfxd is installed | 17:05 |
| sco | but my mute key still does not work, or my volume wheel | 17:05 |
| baudsmk | it uninstalls the software that you must pay for. Not a good thing or you wouldnt have paid for it | 17:05 |
| baudsmk | lo | 17:05 |
| baudsmk | sco, is it working yet? | 17:07 |
| sco | hello? | 17:12 |
| baudsmk | hello | 17:13 |
| baudsmk | I have an idea for you, create a new shortcut key command and when it listens move the volume wheel | 17:13 |
| sco | lol, my laptop crashed so unceremoniously | 17:13 |
| sco | the suspend hotkey does work. my laptop suspended, but when i tried to revive it, it froze with a black screen and the music was looping | 17:14 |
| sco | but apparently not all the hotkeys work. so let's try your new idea | 17:14 |
| baudsmk | aumix -v -2 works the lower the volume | 17:14 |
| baudsmk | sudo apt-get install aumix | 17:15 |
| sco | sweet, every time i type that in the console, the volume lowers itself | 17:15 |
| sco | i think aumix is already installed | 17:15 |
| sco | what is the increase volume command? | 17:15 |
| baudsmk | +2 | 17:16 |
| sco | so -v is for volume and +-n is increment/decrement by n | 17:16 |
| baudsmk | yah, let me know if that works for you | 17:16 |
| sco | well, both the commands certainly work, but how do i bind them to something that is simple to use? | 17:17 |
| sco | what you said earlier?: "I have an idea for you, create a new shortcut key command and when it listens move the volume wheel" | 17:17 |
| sco | i will try that | 17:18 |
| baudsmk | after you attempt that I will attempt a sleep mode | 17:19 |
| sco | okay | 17:19 |
| baudsmk | I wnat to know if that works for you | 17:19 |
| sco | i will let you know if the volume wheel thingy works. i do it in the keyboard shortcuts menu item, right? | 17:19 |
| sco | yay! my volume wheel works now! | 17:20 |
| sco | thank you | 17:20 |
| sco | hang on, i am going to write a note for myself to remind how to do this | 17:21 |
| sco | okay, written up | 17:29 |
| sco | now you were going to help me set up the sleep button? | 17:29 |
| sco | thank you for the help i got here. i realise that baudsmk isn't here anymore, but i thank him anyway | 17:42 |
| sco | bye | 17:44 |
| rrmm | Does gigolo work for other people in 9.10? Mine will not open a file explorer, it tells me that the protocol is unsupported iirc, sorry not on my laptop right now. | 17:54 |
| rrmm | bbl on laptop to discuss this issue later :-D | 17:57 |
| slow-motion | hi | 19:31 |
| pingo- | hi | 20:22 |
| kunnu531 | Hi, I am new to this channel and I need some help | 20:46 |
| kunnu531 | I have hardy 8.04 version | 20:46 |
| kunnu531 | and when ever I log into KDE session I get an error client-error-bad-request CUPS server error | 20:46 |
| kunnu531 | And this doesn't happen in Gnome | 20:47 |
| Sysi | ask #kubuntu | 20:47 |
| kunnu531 | any ideas or suggestions please | 20:47 |
| kunnu531 | ok thank you | 20:47 |
| Sysi | here we know about xfce | 20:47 |
| kunnu531 | got you if I have any issues with NX can I ping in this channel ? | 20:48 |
| _Pete_ | kunnu531: NX ? what is that? | 20:48 |
| Sysi | ask here, someone give ansver if anyone are present who know about that | 20:49 |
| kunnu531 | It's an software used for connecting to linux machine from MAC or Windows | 20:49 |
| kunnu531 | It's an Graphical interface | 20:50 |
| kunnu531 | software | 20:50 |
| _Pete_ | so, what is your problem? | 20:50 |
| kunnu531 | I use this software for connecting to my linux machine from windows | 20:50 |
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| Alex001 | Hi. I little new to Ubuntu/xubuntu. Could you please tell me the major difference between the two, if both have installed the Compiz-Fusion (which seems quite nice)? | 23:09 |
| Sysi | i didn't get compiz to work with xfwm, i need to install emerald | 23:10 |
| slow-motion | n8 | 23:10 |
| Sysi | there are some effects available on xubuntu by default. but if you want compiz and have power to run that, get ubuntu | 23:11 |
| Alex001 | Otherwise? Any super-good-reason too choose xubuntu? | 23:11 |
| Alex001 | compared with ubuntu. | 23:12 |
| Sysi | if you like xfce, or you have little of RAM | 23:12 |
| Sysi | i just like xfce, i have gnome and kde also and this is the right for me | 23:13 |
| baudsmoke | I also use Xubuntu but I tried kde and I dont like it | 23:14 |
| baudsmoke | and I dont like Dolphin file manager | 23:14 |
| Alex001 | On my wifes computer I installed the 8.04 xubuntu a long time ago. And the other day I just played around - installed compiz, activated hardware acceleration, installed a package with all necessary stuff for flash/sound etc. And I was amazed at not having any problems. | 23:14 |
| Alex001 | So I was thinking about installing Ubuntu/Xubuntu on my machine too. (I have the W2008Srv. right now.) | 23:15 |
| Sysi | i had compiz but then i noticed it's not nice and put it off | 23:15 |
| Sysi | opacity is enough for me | 23:15 |
| Alex001 | But. I read somewhere about speedincrease with xubuntu, compared to ubuntu. | 23:15 |
| Sysi | login is faster | 23:15 |
| Alex001 | So the only difference is the window-manager? | 23:16 |
| Sysi | but if you're interested, install all desktop enviroments and see which you like the most | 23:16 |
| baudsmoke | Anyone know of a tool to convert avi to mp4 etc?? | 23:16 |
| Alex001 | Sysi: Install all, and then take them away? I don't wan't any rubbish left behind. | 23:17 |
| Sysi | it's still better than wondering and speculating | 23:17 |
| Sysi | i can't tell what you like | 23:18 |
| Alex001 | Sysi: "but if you want compiz and have power to run that, get ubuntu". Did you write that because you didn't get compiz to work, or is there another reason? | 23:18 |
| baudsmoke | I am almost certain xfce will be your choice and 9.10 Karic Koala makes is really nice | 23:18 |
| baudsmoke | the derivitives are updated more often | 23:19 |
| Sysi | compix integrates better with gnome | 23:19 |
| Sysi | and it comes by default | 23:19 |
| Alex001 | Sysi: Ah, okay. | 23:19 |
| baudsmoke | Xubuntu and Kubuntu have more updates and more bug fixes | 23:19 |
| * Sysi ♥ xfce | 23:20 | |
| Alex001 | baudsmoke: The "derivitives"? | 23:20 |
| Alex001 | hehehe | 23:20 |
| Alex001 | baudsmoke: You mean gnome/kde/etc? | 23:20 |
| Sysi | everything but gnome? | 23:21 |
| baudsmoke | I mean Xubuntu and Kubuntu are derivatives of Ubuntu | 23:21 |
| Alex001 | Okay. Seems like 9.10 with xfce in two weeks then. | 23:21 |
| Alex001 | baudsmoke: So they are updated more often? (!) | 23:22 |
| Alex001 | Seems strange | 23:22 |
| Alex001 | . | 23:22 |
| Sysi | i usually get daily build couple days before | 23:22 |
| Sysi | there won't be lot of updates still | 23:22 |
| Alex001 | Any other differences? Or good reasons for Xubuntu? | 23:22 |
| baudsmoke | right. Software updates will come in quicker. I suppose it is because the Ubuntu people are busy making the main distro | 23:23 |
| baudsmoke | http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/derivatives | 23:23 |
| Sysi | i think it's stupid that xubu and kubu are separated from main distro | 23:24 |
| Sysi | any other distro don't that | 23:24 |
| Sysi | * dont do | 23:24 |
| Sysi | sorry it's bit late here, i'm may not on my sharpest | 23:25 |
| baudsmoke | no doubt. Kubu is not even a recognized distro only has status of "supported" | 23:26 |
| baudsmoke | prolly because it sucks | 23:27 |
| baudsmoke | Have you tried Linux Mint yet? I have no blank cdr's but I want to try it out. | 23:27 |
| Sysi | usb-stick ♥ | 23:27 |
| baudsmoke | I dont have. | 23:28 |
| baudsmoke | I tryed it install Xubuntu into Windows had it would not let me login with my password. | 23:28 |
| Sysi | wubi? that's evil | 23:28 |
| Sysi | lots of problems with that | 23:29 |
| baudsmoke | I also tried VirtualBox but I removed it I think I just had the video card memory at 4mb, I just have increased it to 30mb | 23:29 |
| baudsmoke | I'l try again this time In Linux | 23:31 |
| baudsmoke | I wanted to try FreeBSD | 23:31 |
| Sysi | i first try even half of hundreds of different linuxes :P | 23:32 |
| Alex001 | Is there any difference in the programs being installed with Xubu? | 23:33 |
| Sysi | there are some differences | 23:33 |
| Alex001 | If it's two different "companies"/communities doing ubuntu and xubuntu there should be more differences then the w-managers. | 23:33 |
| Sysi | xchat is by default but rhythmbox is replaced by some listen | 23:34 |
| Alex001 | Or maybe I got the idea of Xubu/ubu wrong? | 23:34 |
| baudsmoke | and gedit, kedit, and mousepad | 23:34 |
| Alex001 | aha. | 23:34 |
| Sysi | that's just what i said about nameing | 23:34 |
| Alex001 | Did any of you see the article about the engineer at IBM who made a computer with Ubuntu start in 5 secs.? | 23:35 |
| Sysi | xubuntu could/should be more lightweight but it's not very much currently | 23:35 |
| Alex001 | Sysi: Naming. Got your point! | 23:35 |
| Alex001 | Ah, ok. | 23:35 |
| Sysi | bad english exists also.. | 23:36 |
| baudsmoke | I just noticed there is an xedit program and it rocks | 23:36 |
| Sysi | i often use nano | 23:36 |
| Alex001 | About the 5 sec boot. I was wondering how to really speed up the process. That article didn't say much about how to do it - but then, maybe IBM did some experimenting and doesn't want to tell how to do it. | 23:37 |
| Sysi | that's about how you measure it | 23:37 |
| Sysi | i've seen 6secs on bootchart with default ubuntu | 23:37 |
| baudsmoke | maybe just stripped it to the bones floppy disk size | 23:37 |
| Alex001 | bootchart? | 23:38 |
| Alex001 | Hmm... I understood it was with a w-manager running. I could be wrong. | 23:38 |
| Alex001 | (I once installed a Pentium 4 with Win98. It booted around 30-35 secs. So it should be possible, if one leaves out the "junk". Then, maybe, the "junk" are necessare applications for security and the alike.) | 23:40 |
| baudsmoke | Windows 95 boots in 5 secs | 23:40 |
| Alex001 | Sysi: Whats bootchart? | 23:40 |
| Alex001 | Hehe. That's really nice! | 23:41 |
| baudsmoke | I used to run Windows 95 on a 75mhz Pentium 1 with 8-16mb of ram | 23:41 |
| Sysi | bootchart is program to measure boot time | 23:42 |
| Sysi | it's on repositories | 23:42 |
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