[00:23] ping [00:25] can anybody help me with an install question? [00:27] ...anyone? [00:30] i promise it's interesting === rr72_ is now known as rr72 [01:06] okay so here's my situation: http://paste.ubuntu.com/295047/ [01:08] easier-to-read version: http://paste.ubuntu.com/295055/ [01:12] basically, is it possible to do an install from a partition on the main hdd? [07:08] hey pete i'm installing xubuntu [07:18] _Pete_ the xubuntu seems to be going right in my dimension... [07:22] wow half in at 15 minutes [07:26] 95% at 24 minutes...wow [07:31] well _Pete_ilike the desktop better-and she went in under22 minutes [07:47] <_Pete_> Balsaque: ? [07:47] i am on 2 puters at once [07:48] plus th g4 lapper just installed xubu [07:48] but need a fliipin connector to go online [07:50] unless i do i lil surgery on this 8200 over here...noticed it has a 10/100 on her [07:54] _Pete_ are you on xubuntu jaunty? [07:59] <_Pete_> Balsaque: not any more [07:59] _Pete_what are you using [07:59] <_Pete_> kde3 [07:59] <_Pete_> = my favourite [08:00] never heard of that one? [08:00] is that kubuntu [08:00] <_Pete_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_3 [08:01] <_Pete_> currently kubuntu = kde4 [08:01] <_Pete_> I dont like kde4 at all [08:03] cross platform.. [08:03] so what made you chooes it over the bazillions out there [08:04] choose* [08:04] <_Pete_> simple: it works (as I want) [08:04] does it have terminal? [08:05] <_Pete_> of coz [08:06] i saw the big clock on it looked a lil like puppy mixed with vista home premium too me [08:06] <_Pete_> http://quadcore.homeunix.net/~petria/tmp/kde3.jpg [08:07] that was me on there! [08:07] i like the system monitor on the side cool [08:07] there are so many of these...i cant decide which one ilike [08:07] <_Pete_> it is gkrellm [08:08] <_Pete_> .. apt-get install gkrellm [08:08] i loaded onw with xp pro sp3, i ubuntu 904 i xubu and 3 more to go [08:08] i want all 7 to be different [08:08] plus one leopard forgot the g4 [08:09] then that ole 400mgz i have been usin willget puppy or something really lightweight [08:09] it coughs a lil on ubun [08:12] like this linux stuff because i really despise anti virus software and i dont use any on my ubuntu [08:13] as i click thru the xubu it really seems just like ubuntu...but if its quicker ill like it better [08:16] says intel R pentium R 4 cpu 2.4ghz 49.2 disk space 496.9 memory (weird numbers-not what my invoice says?) [08:16] says xubuntu used up 1.7 [08:17] hmmm....60gig hd minus 1.7 + 49.2 ???thats some weird math [08:17] opps meant 60-1.7=49.2? [08:18] how can xubuntu take only 1.7...but drop my disk space from 60 down to 49.2 [08:25] <_Pete_> what's the point? [08:25] <_Pete_> just use it if works [08:25] <_Pete_> wondering (stupid) number is not going to get you anywhere [08:27] when you put a OS in a mchine that uses 1.7 of the disk, how do you get down to 49.2....there is no point, i am asking you if you know why, if you don't then i really don't care. [08:28] <_Pete_> I dont [08:28] <_Pete_> because of this: [08:28] <_Pete_> Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on [08:28] <_Pete_> /dev/mapper/vg0-root 1.2T 699G 460G 61% / [08:30] allelulah [08:31] <_Pete_> and coz this happens to be raid0 with 4 sata-drivers [08:31] <_Pete_> it's also fast [08:33] well since i can't leave well enoough alone i am going to get real stupid and start taking parts of one computer so i can get this lil xubu on the internet... [08:33] <_Pete_> good luck [08:34] from what i can see you just reach in there grab the flippin ehternet 10/100 and rip er out straight up! [08:35] no swrews at all [08:36] is out and it didnt break yet [08:49] just wont go in the new one dmmmmit [08:49] My WindowManager seems to have disabled itself somehow. and everytime I reboot it runs Krusader. [08:50] I'm not sure what happened here. [08:50] any ideas on how to get my wm back? [08:56] i wish i could help you i have no idea what you are talking about [08:56] new ti linux myself [08:59] done... [09:10] Hi, I'm wondering if someone can help me. I have a server running xubuntu 8.10. It has a 40g HDD, and a 1 TB HDD, which must be formatted in FAT32 (for a PVR). I have it mounted where I want it (media/data) but only root can read/write to it. I would like to get it user RWable. In my main PC I have a FAT32 formatted drive, but the options on fstab don't seem to get the server 1 tb user RWable. Can anyone help please? [09:30] wow this is really reallly really fast [09:31] hey _techie_ i just pulled off major flippin surgery-where the heck were ya [09:32] gues i can wipe out balsaque....hang on [09:36] this is way too cool...time for a cold one [09:39] <_Techie_> what did ya do? [09:40] <_Techie_> dangit, this is why i wish i had my bouncer online [09:41] i took the ethernet out of the 8200 and tossed it in one of the 8250's because the 8250's only have what looks to be an rj45 plug hole and i installed xubu and threw it in where the old 400mgz dell was [09:42] <_Techie_> wait, a standard adsl internet router uses rj45 [09:43] i duuno thats why i took the ethernet out of the 8200 never saw that other type maybe it would of worked looks a lil bigger so i just used a oart that looked like the thing in the back of my old timer [09:43] <_Pete_> _Techie_: yo [09:43] <_Techie_> yo pete, howzit [09:43] <_Pete_> trying to wake up [09:43] <_Techie_> haha [09:43] <_Pete_> am here [09:44] <_Pete_> _Techie_: do you want ircproxy ? [09:44] <_Techie_> hey bal, can you pastebin me the output of lspci please [09:44] <_Pete_> I am currently using bitlbee [09:44] <_Techie_> yeah, i had one set up on my australian server but thats offline while its tranferred [09:44] no friggen clue howto do it [09:45] what out put? [09:45] <_Techie_> all of it [09:45] what is it? what for? [09:45] is that the driver page [09:45] <_Techie_> it gives me the output of your devices [09:45] so go to terminal and type that [09:46] <_Techie_> yeah [09:46] <_Techie_> if you want me to get you a command to auto do it i can [09:46] what is that [09:46] hang on do i type sudo 1st [09:47] <_Techie_> lspci | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us [09:47] <_Techie_> if it needed sudo i would have asked [09:47] <_Pete_> _Techie_: cool, your skillz do amaze me :) [09:48] <_Techie_> lol, i didnt write that command [09:49] <_Techie_> but i do understand how it works [09:49] i don't have any skills... [09:49] <_Techie_> oh yeah, i had a question about bitlbee, is it able to keep 2 users connnected to the same account in sync? [09:49] ok its ready now tell me what the f it is [09:50] <_Techie_> lspci lists all pci devices [09:50] <_Pete_> _Techie_: only tried with one MSN, but I guess yes [09:51] <_Techie_> the other alternative is ZNC, that comes with the ability to use plugin modules [09:51] gonna have to instal curl [09:51] and it tells me how [09:51] <_Techie_> yeah, sudo apt-get install curl [09:52] what is it in a nutbag...i mean nut shell [09:52] <_Techie_> pete, ever done any work with sendmail servers? [09:52] <_Pete_> _Techie_: no [09:52] <_Techie_> which part do you want me to explain bal? [09:53] not everything just what is curl [09:54] <_Techie_> curl is a way of sending data using GET and POST [09:54] i mean dont i know my pci's when i put it in there were none except the vi card [09:54] <_Pete_> _Techie_: you know nc is better? [09:55] <_Techie_> huh, nc... sorry if i seem to be lacking concentration, im at a mates place watching a movie [09:55] <_Techie_> what is nc? [09:55] <_Pete_> wrong move [09:56] <_Pete_> put them to learn linux instead [09:56] <_Techie_> they are linux folks [09:56] <_Techie_> they are the people who got me started [09:56] <_Pete_> NC(1) BSD General Commands Manual NC(1) [09:56] <_Pete_> NAME nc - arbitrary TCP and UDP connections and listens [09:56] <_Pete_> man nc [09:56] this one is ten time 50 times faster than my old timer [09:56] <_Pete_> very powerfull tool [09:57] when i called dell they sad it has a good vid card too nvidia [09:57] <_Techie_> yeah, thats why im getting you to output lspci [09:57] <_Techie_> coz i reckon you could probably run compiz quite happily [09:58] what will i do with compiz...hear that name all the time [09:58] <_Pete_> Balsaq_Xubu: you should think otherwise [09:58] i gotta mess with t for awhile ist i wonder if it will elet me play youtube vids [09:58] <_Pete_> Balsaq_Xubu: like -> what would I like to do= [09:58] <_Pete_> when you know that [09:58] <_Pete_> then you can seek best tools for that [09:59] prfound...thank you Pete! [09:59] <_Pete_> if you, like you try to, do otherwise around [09:59] <_Pete_> it's pointless [09:59] oh i will just figuring some things out here all new [10:00] <_Pete_> then again, what is your point? [10:01] <_Techie_> brb [10:01] <_Pete_> obiviously you have one [10:02] still not sure what you are asking me but whatever it is i am sure you put a lot of thoought into it [10:02] <_Pete_> but Balsaq_Xubu can you say what iti is? [10:02] i don't recall trying to make a point just now [10:02] <_Pete_> ok [10:02] <_Pete_> maybe I am trying to be realistic again [10:03] <_Pete_> but since is part of my job, hard to not do so [10:05] ok now i see what you mean pete: ist decide what i want the puter to do...then pick out the best downloads [10:05] <_Pete_> something like that [10:06] <_Pete_> you should know how to use it [10:06] <_Pete_> not how it can use you [10:06] my main goals are: online videos, speed, speed, speed, email , word processing and so far that is it [10:06] <_Techie_> the second one is already achieved [10:06] but its so fast now i guess forget the speed [10:06] <_Pete_> well spoken on computers [10:06] <_Pete_> best way to achive those is money [10:06] ive never seen speed like this [10:07] i returned a quad core w/ 6g ram and vista and it wasnt as fast [10:07] you'll have to excuse my exuberance [10:08] this thing is from 2003 [10:09] <_Pete_> you are looking back [10:09] <_Pete_> I am looking forward [10:09] <_Pete_> I dont care what was 2003 [10:09] <_Pete_> but are very intresting to see like +5 years from now [10:10] <_Pete_> are/am [10:10] i wnt a new one but the new quad vista computer was so cheap it really turned me off maybe you have had better luck with the new ones [10:10] maybe the i7 will be good [10:11] <_Pete_> there's no luck needed [10:11] <_Pete_> only money [10:11] <_Techie_> or skill [10:11] <_Pete_> yes [10:11] <_Pete_> with later you get first [10:11] pete maybe you can cut me am loan [10:12] <_Pete_> Balsaq_Xubu: no thanks [10:12] <_Techie_> so pete, what do you actually do for a job anyway? [10:14] <_Pete_> I code programs for n900 [10:14] <_Techie_> sweet [10:15] <_Pete_> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/petri-airio/5/960/540 [10:15] <_Pete_> like this [10:17] <_Techie_> cool [10:18] Pete are you part of the ubuntu staff [10:18] <_Pete_> Balsaq_Xubu: no [10:19] you seem to prefer this channel or do you frequent others [10:19] <_Pete_> as said [10:19] <_Pete_> I like xfce [10:20] <_Pete_> but more I like old kde3.xx [10:20] <_Pete_> but more likely I like my current job [10:20] <_Pete_> where everything you come with is hitech-very-new [10:21] <_Pete_> Balsaq_Xubu: so your thinking of how to put some old-dated comp to work is quite irrelevant for me [10:22] <_Techie_> quite relevant to me though, its what i do [10:22] Pete: you have made that clear so put some earplugs in if i meantion the age of my computer what can i say [10:23] i like the new ones toobut they kinda lost me there when they just kept growwing the footprint of th OS [10:23] <_Pete_> I had have access to computers like [10:23] <_Pete_> 64cpus & many gigas mem [10:23] its like they want you to but a loaded computer and 3 years later its seem like junk again [10:24] <_Pete_> but after all [10:24] <_Pete_> it doesnt really matter [10:24] <_Pete_> Balsaq_Xubu: well that is known fact [10:25] so you seem so well versed incomputers but when iwas installing a few people came in with soemquestions and i noticed you remained silent [10:26] <_Pete_> Balsaq_Xubu: it is mostly coz I dont understand your english [10:32] so Techie did you check shpping rates? [10:33] BRB [10:33] <_Techie_> on the whole box it would be killer [10:38] <_Techie_> welcome back bal [10:39] _Techie_ it wont play the online vids says i need flash..wich is best: yum for linux, tar.gz for linux, rpm for linux, deb for ubuntu 8.04+ ?? [10:40] i suppose i can experimant [10:41] <_Techie_> you will want the .deb [10:41] but i am on xubuntu 904 now [10:41] ok thanks doing it [10:43] do i want to open or save [10:43] <_Techie_> save [10:43] <_Techie_> then open it [10:44] ok [10:49] hmmm wil have to study says dpendency not satisfiable [10:49] prolly casue they want 512 ram and even though i have it xubu says i have 496? [10:49] i have all the other requirements and more [10:49] i am going to put it up to 1g ram soon [10:49] maybe 2 [10:50] either that or they want ubuntu [10:50] no biggie ill figure it out [10:53] brb [11:09] _Techie_it loks like i have to do terminal sudo command i found on adobe... [11:09] <_Techie_> kk [11:09] the about restricted...ever do it [11:10] whats the command to make sure there is no flash in here now Techie [11:10] frsh install really cant be here huh [11:10] <_Techie_> if you havent installled flash, then theres no flash [11:11] ok and i guess we all assume that the built in choices are not the way too gi huh [11:11] gi=go [11:15] can you play the vids Techie? [11:15] the terminal command from adobe didnt work [11:21] _techie_ do you know the terminal command to see what i did install [11:27] where do I put xfce themes? [11:30] janhouse, ~/.themes or /usr/share/themes [11:30] thx :) [11:30] can I use themes from gnome? [11:34] depends on if you mean icon themes or window decoration themes [11:34] or gtk themes [11:39] anyone here know how to instal flash [11:40] sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ? [11:41] thanks knome will try now [11:44] says cant find the package [11:44] do i need to go insynaptic and find it first knome [11:45] or add remove? ill look i guess lost [11:45] you have to enable multiverse -repositories [11:47] you can do that in for example, synaptic [11:48] ok [11:50] i just installed xubu and now i see they want me to do the updates,,,this may be why i am having trouble? [11:50] whaddya think knome [11:51] may as well take em and then see what happens [12:03] hello..does xubuntu support skype? [12:03] <_Techie_> yes, there is a version available [12:03] _Techie_, can you please tel me that version? [12:04] i am trying to install but getting stuck with errors [12:04] <_Techie_> do you want 32bit or 64bit? [12:05] <_Techie_> http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-32 for 32bit [12:05] <_Techie_> http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-64 for 64bit [12:06] 32 bit [12:07] <_Techie_> then the first link is for you [12:08] i downloaded it, wen i tried to install, it tells check the permissions [12:09] <_Techie_> when installing applications you need to use your sudo password [12:09] i dint install with apt-get right? [12:09] <_Techie_> nope [12:09] i am actually using xfce session, not xdesktop exactly [12:10] <_Techie_> doesnt make a difference [12:10] kind of confused, can yu please tel me lil clear [12:10] ok [12:10] <_Techie_> follow this link http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-ubuntu-32 [12:10] <_Techie_> it will ask you if you want to save a file [12:10] <_Techie_> save it [12:10] <_Techie_> run that file [12:11] i saved it, when i tried to run install the package i am getting error [12:11] <_Techie_> what error [12:11] package might be corrupted or you do not have permissions [12:12] <_Techie_> it should prompt you for your password for sudo [12:12] i am not getting you [12:13] <_Techie_> okay, other alternative... im not sure on syntax but try [12:13] <_Techie_> sudo apt-get install /path/to/file [12:13] both are different right? install the package is through GUI, and the other one is in the terminal.. [12:13] ok [12:14] sudo apt-get install /home/username/skype-ubuntu-intrepid_2.1.0.47-1_i386.deb , i ran this, file exists inthat location, but it tells package does not exist [12:15] <_Techie_> im getting comfused here [12:15] <_Techie_> confused* [12:16] <_Techie_> when running from the CLI it says the file does not exist [12:16] <_Techie_> and when running from GUI, it doesnt ask you for your password and return invalid permissions [12:16] yes [12:17] <_Techie_> thats wack [12:17] <_Techie_> my laptop has xfce and even that asks for my password [12:19] <_Techie_> anyway, i need to get some sleep, its past midnight [12:23] how can I make xfce's network manager manage my eth0? [12:23] I have fresh xubuntu install [12:24] I have to write sudo ifconfig eth0 up and then sudo dhclient to make internet work [12:24] <_Techie_> it should manage it automatically [12:24] well, it doesn't [12:24] xubuntu jaunty [12:24] <_Techie_> it should appear in the drop down menu on the top bar [12:24] it doesn't [12:24] any ideas? [12:25] <_Techie_> nope, but you could use a script to manage it [12:28] <_Techie_> anyway, goodnight #xubuntu ill see you in the morning [12:28] it had something in /etc/network/interfaces [12:28] I commented it out and will se what happens [12:29] on gnome you had to do it to make network-manager manage it [12:29] ficed it thank youknome plays all the online vids peret and got all the sound on...now i know how to help someone do it...it was the updates holding me back and the that sudo command just forced it [12:29] ficed=fixed [12:29] Balsaq, okay. [12:30] unreal [12:30] i gotta master the terminal..the terminal just took control and forced it [12:31] knome you are the man.... [12:32] Balsaq, ;) [12:32] Balsaq, thanks [12:32] i owe you [12:35] where can i buy the book of terminal commands? [12:35] we have barnes and noble here [12:36] Balsaq, i suppose you could get some *really* cheap ones from amazon.* [12:36] well for this i would spend the xtra bucks if i knew there was a book that really covered it well [12:37] well, tbh, the best way is to read from internet [12:37] manual pages etc. cover the commands really well, and they could change from time to time [12:37] ok, i could print the pages and make my own [12:37] i really want to nail it [12:37] when i typed that non free thing the thing just lit up [12:38] http://www.amazon.com/Linux-System-Commands-Patrick-Volkerding/dp/0764546694/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1255779471&sr=1-19 [12:38] "24 used from $0.35" [12:40] wow ill have to see which one includes all of it [12:40] http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=ubuntu+command+line&x=0&y=0 <- these also [12:40] id do a used if it had all of it of course maybe the write up new ones all the time [12:40] might be a bit more expensive, but they are newer and cover ubuntu, apparently [12:42] yeah ill get the good one if it has more [12:42] until you master terminal its like drowning [12:42] i think the latter will cover *buntu* better [12:43] tell me is buntu style linuc considered the best or most modern? [12:43] i just started a week or 2 ago [12:43] i am hooked [12:43] mmh, well it has the lowest learning curve, i think [12:43] so its linux for dummies [12:43] a bit maybe [12:43] ubuntu is based on debian, so they have a lot in common [12:44] see i have a puppy linux disc too i am getting ready to learn...that prolly hard vore huh? [12:45] prolly have too hook up everything with terminal on that one [12:49] well puppy is harder, yeah [12:49] lunch, bbl -> [12:49] ok thanks again [13:29] how can I drag shortcuts to programs from menu to panel? [13:29] seems like it is impossible [13:32] janhouse, you can't in xfce [13:32] janhouse, you can use quicklauncher in panel to star applications [13:32] ok [13:32] and where can I manage startup apps? [13:32] I want to run compiz on startup [13:32] and skype [13:32] right click on lanel, you can add launcher for bigger icon [13:34] you could put them on .bashrc file in home dir Or open settings manager and select autostarted applications [13:35] then click add and add them janhouse [13:38] cool, thx :) [13:38] Can I enable compiz in settings manager? [13:38] or I have to run compiz --replace [13:40] and is there some task manager like on gnome where I can see what programs are running and have options to kill them [13:40] with gui [13:41] janhouse, you can continue to use system monitor from gnome [13:41] ok, thx [13:42] as a metter a fact, with using xfapplet xfce applet, you can also continue to use even gnome applets inside xfce [13:42] package is named gnome-system monitor [13:43] as here with me, compositing is turned on in settings manager> window manager tweaks> compositor [13:43] wait [13:43] how can I add gnome panel applets to xfce panel? [13:43] after that you turn compiz on (i don`t turn it on regular basis so I would need to look for that) [13:44] you just add xfapplet applet to xfce panel [13:44] and from there you just choose installed gnome applets :) [13:44] (previously installed with synaptic, of course) [13:50] nikolam, window manager tweaks is empty for me [13:52] janhouse, what version you installed? [13:52] of xubuntu? [13:53] jaunty [14:02] i am on hardy 8.04/LTS [14:04] janhouse, we have great wiki, btw, wiki.ubuntu.com [14:04] also ubuntuforums.com is plce fith tons of answers :) [14:05] ubuntuforums.org , sorry :) [15:12] Hello guys! [15:13] HOlaaaaa! hellooo! how are ya!? [15:18] skavicious, nice, and you? :) [15:22] ok, great [15:22] now it works good enough [15:22] only sad thing is that xfce main menu is kind of slow [15:23] it should keep the contents of it in ram or something [15:23] on machine with 254mb ram and pentium 4 processor it is kind of slow [15:24] janhouse, i know, menu is slow a bit [15:25] janhouse, also it was leaking memory in previous versiond, i think now that is fixed [15:25] janhouse, check out its memory usage after few days of uptime with no logout [15:26] janhouse, i think you can set that application menu is invoked with right click on desktop, that way it is there only when needed etc [15:26] RAM's cheap. I'd up the RAM to _at least_ 512MB, janhouse. [15:26] it is not my computer. I am installing it for friends. [15:27] yes, I will tell them to buy more ram. [15:27] yes, more cheap ram is best upgrade [15:27] Some time ago I used pentium 2 computer with slackware and xfce [15:27] had ~128mb ram [15:28] it was sooo slow but I had fun learning to use linux :) [15:29] this year I got rid of MS WIndows. Feel happy now :D [15:31] I haven't used Windoze /at all/ in 2+ years now. :-) [15:47] I just installed Xubuntu Karmic and many of the applications dont work. For example, users-admin [15:47] I get the error: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 [15:47] @baudsmoke:/usr/bin$ users-admin [15:47] No protocol specified [15:47] (users-admin:3015): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 [15:50] I'm sure it'll be sorted out by Oct 29th, baudsmk, when the official final release is. [15:50] Did you submint a bug report? [15:50] !bug [15:50] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » If that fails, you can report bugs manually at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [15:52] If I have Windows XP and Xubuntu installed on the same hard disk but different partitions can Xubuntu access the Windows XP partition? [15:55] nm, I figured it out [15:55] sudo mount /dev/sda1 ./test [15:56] !ntfs [15:56] To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [15:58] I would like to access my cell phone via USB [15:58] it has a FAT file system [16:00] !NTFS-3g [16:00] ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions [16:04] Nothing in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ works [16:16] I need some XFCE help [16:16] is anyone in here familiar with the way Xubuntu starts XFCE? [16:20] Hi [16:20] I installed XFCE on my Ubuntu a few months ag [16:20] and it screwed up my login screen [16:20] now in login preferences, I can't change the theme of the login screen [16:21] does anybody know what is wrong? [16:21] The option to change the theme isn't there. [16:21] I am guessing something with gdm [16:21] It's not in gdmsetup [16:22] it's -supposed- to be apparently, but now it isn't [16:22] is the option there, just disabled? [16:22] Well [16:22] In the window "Login Window Preferences" [16:22] and I click on the "Local" tab [16:23] and there's nothing about themes, but in the screenshots I see they are. [16:23] it's just Style, Background, Behaviour, logo, Menu Bar, and Welcome Message [16:24] nothing else. [16:24] Oh, nevermind [16:24] Figured it out, feel so stupid now [16:25] it's because i had the "Plain" style selected, not the "Themed" style [16:29] hello? [16:29] hello [16:29] hi [16:29] i am a new xubuntu user. i came here for help [16:30] ok. [16:30] i have installed the latest xubuntu stable version on my laptop [16:31] all the hardware seems to be supported, but my volume wheel does not control the volume [16:31] my laptop is a toshiba satellite a300 [16:31] Your volume wheel needs software [16:31] give me a minute [16:31] thank you [16:40] are you still here, baudsmk? [16:40] YES [16:40] sorry, I thought you were in a diff channel [16:40] lol [16:41] no worries. what can i do to fix this problem? [16:42] it will require some searching around on the web for the hot key support. Does your mute button work? ...other keys? [16:42] !bug [16:42] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » If that fails, you can report bugs manually at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [16:43] according to the keybaord, pressing FN + ESC toggles mute [16:43] but when i press it, nothing happens [16:43] let me try my other hotkeys [16:44] none of my FN hotkeys work [16:45] they all work fine in windows. i guess windows came with the right software [16:45] some of the hotkeys can be changed. For example I set my Windows_Key+D to show my desktop. That was easy. I forget the packages to install to do more elaborate shortcut keys [16:46] how do i make WIN + D do show desktop? i miss that feature too [16:47] right now i'm searching for toshiba linux hotkey support. thanks for your help so far. i guess i just didn't know what to look for [16:48] Im looking for it again, hang on [16:48] sco, see Application -> Settings -> Keyboard -> Application Shortcuts [16:48] settings editor is another place to look [16:48] under keyboard-shortcuts [16:49] I think they call the Windows Key "" [16:49] yes, because the key is not a "windows" key in all keyboards, and imo shouldn't be in any kb [16:51] Under Settings --> Window Manager [16:52] i am in Settings > Window Manager [16:52] in the Keyboard tab there is a line that says "Show Desktop D" [16:54] well, i don't know how to changef it to "D", but at least now i know there is another shortcut for it [16:54] not in my settings. Must be because I am using Karmic Koala I just installed it [16:55] double click it then press the keys you want to change it to [16:56] setting the keyboard is confusing [16:56] so many choices [16:56] too many keyboard tabs in difference places [16:56] yeah, lol [16:56] double-clicking the option doesn't seem to let me change it [16:57] double clicking the line displays a wee window that tells me the mane of the shortcut and the keyboard command, but doesn't let me edit it [16:58] it does let me 'clear' the shortcut, though. weird [16:58] in that wee window just type [16:58] aha! [16:58] it is listening for you to set the key combination [16:58] okay, it's set to "d" now [16:58] thanks, it works [16:59] that window is confusing though. maybe it should explain itself better [16:59] I noticed even sudo /usr/bin/xfce4-settings-editor doesnt let you edit the settings lol [16:59] oh, I can Edit but not Add [17:00] about the hotkey problem btw, i found something that might work [17:00] some software called FnFX [17:01] hasn't been updated since 2004, though [17:01] and i have to install it manually, from source :( [17:01] did you install the programs hotkeys, hotkey-setup, and/or autokeys in the package manager? [17:01] not unless they were preinstalled [17:02] install fnfxd from the package manager [17:03] is that the one in Applications > System > Synaptic Package Manager? [17:03] yes [17:04] that is your all-in-one software super wizard with god like power [17:04] hahaha [17:04] i'm starting to warm to how linux manages its software [17:05] windows equivalent of a package manager is only good for removing apps [17:05] okay, fnfxd is installed [17:05] but my mute key still does not work, or my volume wheel [17:05] it uninstalls the software that you must pay for. Not a good thing or you wouldnt have paid for it [17:05] lo [17:07] sco, is it working yet? [17:12] hello? [17:13] hello [17:13] I have an idea for you, create a new shortcut key command and when it listens move the volume wheel [17:13] lol, my laptop crashed so unceremoniously [17:14] the suspend hotkey does work. my laptop suspended, but when i tried to revive it, it froze with a black screen and the music was looping [17:14] but apparently not all the hotkeys work. so let's try your new idea [17:14] aumix -v -2 works the lower the volume [17:15] sudo apt-get install aumix [17:15] sweet, every time i type that in the console, the volume lowers itself [17:15] i think aumix is already installed [17:15] what is the increase volume command? [17:16] +2 [17:16] so -v is for volume and +-n is increment/decrement by n [17:16] yah, let me know if that works for you [17:17] well, both the commands certainly work, but how do i bind them to something that is simple to use? [17:17] what you said earlier?: "I have an idea for you, create a new shortcut key command and when it listens move the volume wheel" [17:18] i will try that [17:19] after you attempt that I will attempt a sleep mode [17:19] okay [17:19]