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ScottKOK.  I give.06:34
ScottKKPackageKit recommends installing an 'advanced' package manager like synaptic or aptitude to fix broken packages (apt-get -f install was sufficient to fix this case).06:35
ScottKI think I'm just going to install synaptic on any computers I don't admin.06:35
apacheloggerlulz14:10
apacheloggerthe ubuntuone applet requires networkmanager14:10
apacheloggerI suppose that tells a lot about the gnome dev platform :P14:11
apacheloggerso, if one wants sensible ubuntuone implementation for KDE a complete reimplementation of the daemon is necessary :S14:11
* apachelogger cant even create a KDE applet because his system aint got no nm14:12
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tsimpsonapachelogger: I'd like your opinion on bug #454597 if you're here16:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 454597 in kdebindings "Qt::SystemTrayIcon::isSystemTrayAvailable() segfault" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45459716:28
tsimpsonI don't think it's a bug, as the proper Qt initialization was not done16:28
apacheloggerfrom a convenience POV it should not segfault :)16:32
apacheloggertsimpson: I'd upstream it and close the LP bug16:32
apacheloggerrdale, being obsessed with perfection, probably wants to make it not segfault16:33
tsimpsonok, that's why I was unsure16:33
apacheloggertsimpson: technically you could argue both ways, on the one hand there should be no segfault, on the other hand a proper error treatment would also just tell the developer that he did something wrong, which is quite obvious from the segfault as well16:35
apacheloggerso no matter what, the dev screwed up, the presentation is just not very nice currently :D16:35
ScottKPersonally, I think a crash is always a bug.16:36
tsimpsonwell it'd probably crash in C++ too16:36
apacheloggeryeah but it throws an error there I think16:37
apacheloggerI suppose it would crash either way, since that issue is particularly nasty and catching the error signal would do no good since the app is defunct as long as Qt was not initialized16:38
apacheloggerpossibly irb should not crash though :)16:38
tsimpsonjust segfailts here16:38
* apachelogger demands google bookmarks integration in chrome16:42
* apachelogger also still finds the arguing pro-gtk rather weird :P16:42
tsimpsonI would upstream, except bugs.kde.org is not letting me login16:47
tsimpsoneven after creating a new account...16:47
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JontheEchidnawhoa, next KDE update, all we have to do is to tell users to add: "ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa" with software-properties-kde, and that will grab the GPG key automagically17:28
ryanakcaHmmm... Anybody know if nixternal finished the feature tour for Karmic?17:37
apacheloggerdid not AFAIK17:41
apacheloggerunless he worked over hours or something17:42
JontheEchidnayeah, I didn't hear anything about that either17:42
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JontheEchidnaopenoffice update! maybe the file dialog bugs are fixed...18:41
JontheEchidnathe places pane looks a bit funky, but no more invisible text18:53
JontheEchidnacontext menu text is invisible though :(18:53
ScottKRiddell: I uploaded the kde4libs fix for Kubuntu Netbook.  It's sitting, waiting for someone from Ubuntu Release to accept it.18:59
ryanakcaapachelogger: bummer :/21:53
markeyhmm, the kubuntu repo for Chromium, does it use the original builds or self-made ones?21:59
markeyI'm asking because Chromium made a strange change since today or yesterday21:59
apacheloggerwe do not maintain a chromium repo22:00
markeyah ok22:00
markeyso it's their standard daily builds22:00
markeywhat happened is, many site now come up with german language, although explicitly configured to english22:01
markeythey must have done something to the browser ID22:01
ryanakcaHow would one fix bug 448789 ? Make k-n-d-s depend on k-n ?22:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 448789 in kubuntu-meta "Removing kubuntu-netbook doesn't remove kubuntu-netbook-default-settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44878922:14
apacheloggerXdependency22:15
apacheloggeralso22:15
apacheloggerremoving kubuntu-desktop does not remove kubuntu-default-settings does it?22:15
lex79someone can upload ktorrent 3.2.4?  upstream bugfix release22:38
lex79http://ktorrent.org/?q=node/3322:38
lex79https://edge.launchpad.net/~alessandro-ghersi/+archive/staging22:38

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