[06:34] <ScottK> OK.  I give.
[06:35] <ScottK> KPackageKit recommends installing an 'advanced' package manager like synaptic or aptitude to fix broken packages (apt-get -f install was sufficient to fix this case).
[06:35] <ScottK> I think I'm just going to install synaptic on any computers I don't admin.
[14:10] <apachelogger> lulz
[14:10] <apachelogger> the ubuntuone applet requires networkmanager
[14:11] <apachelogger> I suppose that tells a lot about the gnome dev platform :P
[14:11] <apachelogger> so, if one wants sensible ubuntuone implementation for KDE a complete reimplementation of the daemon is necessary :S
[14:12]  * apachelogger cant even create a KDE applet because his system aint got no nm
[16:28] <tsimpson> apachelogger: I'd like your opinion on bug #454597 if you're here
[16:28] <tsimpson> I don't think it's a bug, as the proper Qt initialization was not done
[16:32] <apachelogger> from a convenience POV it should not segfault :)
[16:32] <apachelogger> tsimpson: I'd upstream it and close the LP bug
[16:33] <apachelogger> rdale, being obsessed with perfection, probably wants to make it not segfault
[16:33] <tsimpson> ok, that's why I was unsure
[16:35] <apachelogger> tsimpson: technically you could argue both ways, on the one hand there should be no segfault, on the other hand a proper error treatment would also just tell the developer that he did something wrong, which is quite obvious from the segfault as well
[16:35] <apachelogger> so no matter what, the dev screwed up, the presentation is just not very nice currently :D
[16:36] <ScottK> Personally, I think a crash is always a bug.
[16:36] <tsimpson> well it'd probably crash in C++ too
[16:37] <apachelogger> yeah but it throws an error there I think
[16:38] <apachelogger> I suppose it would crash either way, since that issue is particularly nasty and catching the error signal would do no good since the app is defunct as long as Qt was not initialized
[16:38] <apachelogger> possibly irb should not crash though :)
[16:38] <tsimpson> just segfailts here
[16:42]  * apachelogger demands google bookmarks integration in chrome
[16:42]  * apachelogger also still finds the arguing pro-gtk rather weird :P
[16:47] <tsimpson> I would upstream, except bugs.kde.org is not letting me login
[16:47] <tsimpson> even after creating a new account...
[17:28] <JontheEchidna> whoa, next KDE update, all we have to do is to tell users to add: "ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa" with software-properties-kde, and that will grab the GPG key automagically
[17:37] <ryanakca> Hmmm... Anybody know if nixternal finished the feature tour for Karmic?
[17:41] <apachelogger> did not AFAIK
[17:42] <apachelogger> unless he worked over hours or something
[17:42] <JontheEchidna> yeah, I didn't hear anything about that either
[18:41] <JontheEchidna> openoffice update! maybe the file dialog bugs are fixed...
[18:53] <JontheEchidna> the places pane looks a bit funky, but no more invisible text
[18:53] <JontheEchidna> context menu text is invisible though :(
[18:59] <ScottK> Riddell: I uploaded the kde4libs fix for Kubuntu Netbook.  It's sitting, waiting for someone from Ubuntu Release to accept it.
[21:53] <ryanakca> apachelogger: bummer :/
[21:59] <markey> hmm, the kubuntu repo for Chromium, does it use the original builds or self-made ones?
[21:59] <markey> I'm asking because Chromium made a strange change since today or yesterday
[22:00] <apachelogger> we do not maintain a chromium repo
[22:00] <markey> ah ok
[22:00] <markey> so it's their standard daily builds
[22:01] <markey> what happened is, many site now come up with german language, although explicitly configured to english
[22:01] <markey> they must have done something to the browser ID
[22:14] <ryanakca> How would one fix bug 448789 ? Make k-n-d-s depend on k-n ?
[22:15] <apachelogger> Xdependency
[22:15] <apachelogger> also
[22:15] <apachelogger> removing kubuntu-desktop does not remove kubuntu-default-settings does it?
[22:38] <lex79> someone can upload ktorrent 3.2.4?  upstream bugfix release
[22:38] <lex79> http://ktorrent.org/?q=node/33
[22:38] <lex79> https://edge.launchpad.net/~alessandro-ghersi/+archive/staging