[00:01] <Darxus> Just started building.
[00:01] <Darxus> feniix: Hah.
[00:02] <Darxus> Oh, neat, all the ppas.
[00:03] <Darxus> Looks like 3,158 of them.
[04:32] <Darxus> feniix: My updated linux-bfs-bfq packages just finished building in my ppa.
[06:24] <tiger2wander> Hello everybody!
[06:25] <tiger2wander> Could you talk to me what new in Ubuntu Karmic kernel?
[06:26] <tiger2wander> My current version is: 2.6.31-14-generic #47
[08:53] <hyperair> is anyone here involved in the PM stack of the kernel?
[08:55] <hyperair> i've been trying out tuxonice for the past few days and have noted that tuxonice resumes *extremely* fast compared to uswsusp and the kernel method ubuntu uses. however, for some reason or other tuxonice won't get accepted in the mainline kernel.
[08:55] <hyperair> something i've noted however is that while tuxonice appears to take less time, it's mostly because uswsusp and the kernel method take ages to swap out stuff after resuming
[08:55] <hyperair> as in, it resumes for ~half a minute, and then it swaps out for another two to three minutes.
[08:57] <hyperair> so anyway, something i was thinking about was that if more pages are copied out of the swap during the resuming process instead of allowing it to all be swapped out later, it'd end up faster.
[08:58] <hyperair> or we could just have the tuxonice patch applied onto the ubuntu kernel and use that instead, since it appears to have support for usplash and works really fast (we're trying to get ubuntu to work faster after all)
[09:32] <AceLan> hyperair: hihi, I also using the tuxonice patch on karmic kernel, it's really good
[09:33] <hyperair> i was hesitant while i didn't compile kernels, but as long as i'm using PHC, i'll have to continue compiling kernels so i figured i might as well test out tuxonice =p
[09:34] <AceLan> hyperair: I have a tuxonice branch, if you would like to keep up with karmic, you can try to use my branch # http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=acelan/ubuntu-karmic.git;a=summary
[09:34] <hyperair> nah, i'm following the zen kernel
[09:34] <hyperair> but thanks anyway =)
[09:35] <hyperair> but i think it'd be really beneficial to ubuntu if we used the patch in ubuntu
[09:35] <AceLan> you can raise this issue on ubuntu kernel mailing list
[09:35] <hyperair> hmm maybe i should eh
[09:35] <AceLan> so that we can discuss this further
[09:35] <hyperair> are there any discussions i should know about before doign that, though?
[09:36] <hyperair> i mean when i was having my uswsusp vs kernel method arguments with some other ubuntu developers, it seemed as if it was discussed a lot already and for some reason or other (that i still don't understand) we're using the kernel method and no other
[09:37] <AceLan> I don't know if the kernel team discuss this issue before
[09:37] <hyperair> who's in charge of PM stuff anyway?
[09:38] <hyperair> when i was still poking around, i saw a bunch of random names, but no real team working on it
[09:38] <hyperair> and when it comes to hibernating/suspending issues, there really are a lot
[09:38] <hyperair> aside from hibernating being painfully slow by default
[09:39] <AceLan> I think Tim Gardner is in charge of karmic kernel now
[09:39] <AceLan> and after karmic released, Stefan Bader will take over it
[09:40] <hyperair> the kernel or suspend/hibernate or both?
[09:40] <AceLan> everything
[09:40] <hyperair> i see
[09:40] <AceLan> but I think it's too late to add tuxonice to karmic kernel
[09:40] <hyperair> yes, i understand that.
[09:40] <AceLan> maybe lucid
[09:41] <AceLan> the 10.10
[09:41] <AceLan> 10.4
[09:41] <AceLan> :p
[09:41] <hyperair> so there is a possibility then
[09:41] <hyperair> 10.04
[09:41] <AceLan> yes
[09:41] <AceLan> reise this issue early has more chance to add it
[09:41] <hyperair> alright
[09:42] <hyperair> if someone could raise it at some UDS or other it'd be awesome
[09:42] <hyperair> and since i'm at the other end of the world, i don't exactly feel up to dropping by uds
[09:42] <AceLan> please send an email to kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com , I'll followup add some comment
[09:43] <hyperair> sure
[09:43] <AceLan> I'll attend UDS and maybe make an demo to kernel team
[09:43] <hyperair> cool!
[09:43] <AceLan> but my English is not so good
[09:43] <hyperair> hmm
[09:44] <AceLan> so... I don't know if I could make enough attention
[09:46] <hyperair> it's worth a try imo
[09:46] <hyperair> =p
[09:46] <AceLan> sure, I'll try it
[09:49]  * AceLan &
[09:59] <hyperair> heh
[09:59] <hyperair> AceLan: i've just posted