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UnixDawghello any devs here00:25
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panni_hey, i want to integrate ubuntu server 9.04 CD into ultimate boot disk 5 beta (ubcd). works pretty well using syslinux or grub4dos using install/vmlinuz and install/initrd.gz. problem is, when i burn the ubuntu server installation disk i get a menu with "install" "recover os" etc. how can i get that into my custom DVD?01:11
UnixDawg9.04 has treadiung issues I would wait01:28
UnixDawgtill they fix them01:28
panni_thats not exactly related to my question, but thanks :D01:29
uvirtbot`New bug: #453180 in samba (main) "PC authenticating causes Samba crash" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45318002:56
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iarpHey, someone was helping me earlier today with my LVM problem, they sent me a link to howtoforge.com03:32
iarpit was on expanding a partition, i'm having trouble expanding the partition on the main volumegroup03:33
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Sakunixgot an ubuntu server that will not boot. when i boot it the fonts on the terminal are massive and I can't read the messages. can someone help05:20
coronaasmy old roomate left me his 9.04 ubuntu server. i Tried running >sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade . after completion i ran >sudo shutdown -r now. upon bootup the server hangs at acpi controller saying "unknown flash type"05:22
coronaasmy old roomate left me his 9.04 ubuntu server. i Tried running >sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade . after completion i ran >sudo shutdown -r now. upon bootup the server hangs at acpi controller saying "unknown flash type"06:03
coronaaseverything ive read is about this error occurring after flashing the Bios which i wasnt doing so im confused what went wrong.06:03
coronaasI tried reinstalling ubuntu and an still getting the same error06:03
coronaasone thing of note the boot drive was a 20 gig HDD with 2 400gb drives in a raid 5 format. I can view the raid when repartitioning the drive but i cant find the 20gig boot disc06:03
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coronaasmy old roomate left me his 9.04 ubuntu server. i Tried running >sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade . after completion i ran >sudo shutdown -r now. upon bootup the server hangs at acpi controller saying "unknown flash type"06:41
coronaaseverything ive read is about this error occurring after flashing the Bios which i wasnt doing so im confused what went wrong.06:41
coronaasI tried reinstalling ubuntu and an still getting the same error06:41
coronaasone thing of note the boot drive was a 20 gig HDD with 2 400gb drives in a raid 5 format. I can view the raid when repartitioning the drive but i cant find the 20gig boot disc06:41
VotingI have a server, actually a virtual node on linode, and I want to be able to run twm or something slim and login using vnc (or some other screen sharing system). We happen to be real smart java programmers here but REAL DUMB systems admins. Anyone around can help us do this? Is this the right room to ask about this? … Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb06:45
MTecknologyVoting: why do you want to run a display manager on linode?07:05
MTecknologycoronaas: don't use raid07:06
MTecknologycoronaas: hardware raid causes many issues - see if not using it makes things work07:07
Votingbecause we like to debug using eclipse, etc. running on that machine, MTecknology.07:07
VotingMTecknology: also the machine this programmer has doesn't run the right OS to develop this software, etc. and until I get him a better machine, the linode is what we have.07:07
MTecknologyI thought eclipse was cross platform07:08
MTecknologyyou should be able to just install gdm and gnome, ssh with X forwarding, then enable remote login and have him use a live cd to log into the system07:09
Votinghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=686479 and … http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=835165 are examples of the problems we are having.07:09
VotingMTecknology: let me see if I understand your idea. The java swing program we are debugging would run where?07:11
MTecknologyserver07:11
MTecknologykeep in mind the linode will suffer from it07:12
VotingMTecknology: and we would be seeing the UI on the programmer's local machine because he is running an x-server?07:12
MTecknologyyou could also ask #linode on irc.oftc.net07:12
Votingthey supply support there?07:12
MTecknologyya07:12
VotingCOOL!07:12
VotingI'll check that out also! thanks!07:13
Votingbrb07:13
coronaasHey MT the rig was running fine when my roomate was using it and fine before I ran the update07:14
MTecknologyjust a suggestion07:16
MTecknologyonce this kernel compiles it's nap time07:17
coronaasill try it out thanks but i dont think its the raid specifically causing the problems07:21
MTecknologycoronaas: I've seen issues from raid controlers, ide contollers, etc.. that's just one specific thing I know caused many issues in the past for me07:23
CCXhi07:44
CCXcan anyone please help with BIND setup07:45
CCXi have setup bind for 1 domain. its working, now i want to point my other domain to use the dns i just setup07:46
pipedream 08:05
ghhhello08:43
teo350hola10:19
teo350como istalar una tarjeta de red en server jaunty 9.010:19
uvirtbot`New bug: #454519 in eucalyptus (main) "Public IP addresses should be assignable by DHCP" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45451910:26
stashi, anybody using apt-mirror tool?10:29
Sakarahaving some trouble still with my terminal on my ubuntu server anyone have any idea11:25
uvirtbot`New bug: #446263 in junit (multiverse) "sync request (unstable -> main) for getting maven built , FFe granted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44626313:41
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uvirtbot`New bug: #454734 in samba (main) "While adding printer, samba printers don't show in smb browser" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45473416:41
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Family_Hi17:22
Family_noob here17:22
Family_anyone know can ubuntu server 9.04 be installed trough harddrive?17:23
Family_helloo17:24
Family_am i using this thing right..17:24
azteechFamily_, have you already downloaded the ISO to your harddrive?17:24
Family_yes sir17:24
azteechand have you burned it to cd?17:25
Family_thats not the problem17:25
Family_I want to install it from the harddricve17:25
azteechyou running linux already?17:25
Family_no, windows17:26
azteechthen you will need to burn it to cd, and install it from there,17:26
azteechthat is unless you are running a windows virtual system .. then you might. but that is beyond me.17:27
Family_and i cant manage it without running linux at the first place?17:29
Family_u cant install it from harddrive17:30
azteechyou need to burn it to cd, to boot into the linux os, that is where everything is done from (partitioning, setting up what server software you want to run, all the config files, etc.17:30
azteechnope, you can't ... sorry.17:31
Family_does that mean ubuntu server distro only, or all distros cant be done so17:32
azteechall server distro's have to be installed fresh .... maybe this will help to explain .... https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/serverguide.pdf17:33
Family_ok, thanks17:34
azteechyou are most welcome.17:34
azteechgood luck. if you have more questions feel free to ask away.17:34
panni_hey, i'm trying to boot "ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso" from grub and isolinux. it works well using kernel=/install/vmlinuz and initrd=/install/initrd.gz but then on boot it instantly loads the installer, not the splash menu which gets loaded if you pop in the CD directly. does anyone know how to tell the bootloader to load the original splash?17:57
tramseiI have a problem on Ubuntu with dhcpd3 not starting on boot.  i installed sysv-rc-conf and it says that it's setup to run on runlevels 2,3,4,5 but it doesn't appear to be running when i start the system.  any idea why this could be?18:01
seljeis it possible to chance the screen resolution in Gnome, when im in command line?18:02
tramseiAnyone?18:03
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Family_Im supposed to do my thesis on Linux server use18:16
Family_I have zero experience using linux and 2 months time18:16
Family_how hard can it be?18:16
tramsei_?18:19
Family_no, im really asking. is it really hard?18:21
Family_installing/using ubuntu server18:21
Family_wow, everything ive heard about the enthusiastic linux community is true18:28
russlarFamily_: no, it's just that there's nobody in this channel right now18:30
Family_youre here?18:31
russlarthe question isn't how easy/hard is it to use linux as a server, it's what can you do with linux as a server18:31
russlaras for you're issue of 0 experience and two months time, I suggest you grab a copy of virtualbox from sun.com18:32
russlarand install various linuxes to your heart's content18:32
russlari recomment centos, as the majority of real-world enterprise linux servers are red hat, and centos is a rebuild of red hat's source binaries18:33
tramsei_I have a problem on Ubuntu with dhcpd3 not starting on boot.  i installed sysv-rc-conf and it says that it's setup to run on runlevels 2,3,4,5 but it doesn't appear to be running when i start the system.  any idea why this could be?18:33
russlartramsei_: anything in teh logs?18:34
tramsei_ls -l /etc/rc?.d/*dhcp3-server produces18:34
tramsei_http://pastebin.com/m6c648c7918:34
russlarright, look at the system logs18:34
russlarthere's a reaason it's not starting18:34
russlarFamily_: most commly, linux can be used as a web server18:35
russlarand ftp18:35
russlarand various specialized apps18:36
Family_be that the case, im writing about all the deployments that are available for it18:36
Family_DNS18:36
Family_print18:36
Family_...18:36
russlardhcp18:36
russlaryour topic ex extremely open-ended18:36
russlarlike I suggested, get yourself a copy of virtualbox, install centos, and set up a bunch of services on it18:37
Family_thats not included in the package list?18:37
Family_why, whats so great about Centos18:37
russlarFamily_: read my comment earlier18:37
russlar[13:33] <russlar> i recomment centos, as the majority of real-world enterprise linux servers are red hat, and centos is a rebuild of red hat's source binaries18:38
seljehi mates... a question: is there any way to chance the desktop screen resolution in command line?18:38
russlarselje: xrandr is the cmd you want18:38
seljerusslar: can't open display?18:39
Family_does it have a GUI18:39
russlarFamily_: centos? yes. it uses gnome and/or kde 3.518:41
Family_Which version of centos is meant for server, centos server?18:42
russlarFamily_: centos doesn't work that way18:43
Family_Oh man18:43
russlarthere is only centos18:43
russlarno server-specific version version, no desktop-specific version18:44
russlarlinux is a networked os, capable of being both desktoip and server18:44
russlarunlike windows, which is a standalone OS that is network capable18:45
russlarand needs a server-specific version18:45
russlarthe only difference between ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server is the installer, and server doesn't have a GUI18:45
russlarthat's it18:45
Family_so how are the services deployed in comparison to windows where u just click on what you want18:45
russlaryou install the packages you want18:46
russlaryum install httpd18:46
russlaryou edit the config files18:46
russlaryou start the service18:46
Family_jsut like any other program, say games?18:46
russlarservice httpd start18:46
russlarno18:46
Family_okok18:46
russlarserver serices are 90% configured from command line18:47
Family_are they hard to learn? :(18:47
russlarno really18:47
russlarthere are example configs in most config files18:47
Family_why dosent ubuntu server have a gui, its just way more harder??18:48
russlarbecause it doesn't need a gui18:48
russlarback in the day, servers didn't have GUIs18:48
Family_o, so just because a car dosent need a doors u take them off...18:48
russlareverythign was done in command line18:48
russlarno......18:48
russlara car needs doors18:48
russlarit doesn't need a fancy paint job18:49
russlarthe paint job makes it look nicer, but it doesn't help the car rin any better18:49
Family_it might18:49
Family_!18:49
russlara GUI for linux is simply a fancy paint job18:49
Family_i see18:50
russlarubuntu server doesn't need the gui for anything, so the devs leave it off the instaler disc, so they can back more software on it instead18:51
Family_how do you think i should narraw down my thesis on linux18:52
Family_only write about dns, filem, print, DHCP18:52
Family_web maybe18:53
russlarhow long does it need to be?18:53
Family_its jsut a high school paper18:53
Family_not really important18:53
Family_but id like to do kinda well18:54
russlarahh....18:54
russlarof course18:54
russlaryou could do a compare/contrast of linux vs windows18:54
russlaryou could do a how-to of how to set up apache18:55
russlar(though that one might get heavy)18:55
russlaryeah, where you're jsut starting out with linux, I think a compare/contrast of linux vs windows might be a good choice18:56
Family_yeah18:57
Family_i have to go now, thanks for all the advice18:58
Family_!18:58
spenserI've been up to thinking abit and I came up with a pretty neat idea on how canonical could monetize on cloud services.18:58
russlarnp18:58
spenserThere could be a system in place where canonical controls the advertising and billing services and each ubuntu cloud cluster could opt-in to have clients from this network added to there machine.18:59
spenserby machine i mean cloud18:59
spenserIf prices were fair this could be a big opportunity to monetize on essentially a distributed cloud architecture.19:00
russlarspenser: kind of a thin-clients in teh sky?19:01
spenseryes, kind of but let me make a quick example.19:01
spenserSay, company X needs y amount of capacity in there cloud based data center.  They know that using this capacity is a worst case scenario but it needs to be there all the time.19:03
russlaremergency disaster-recovery storage?19:04
spenserThe company sets up a deal with an a canonical and that says "Hey we have this much space that we will not always need you can use this to place VM's on our network for a price of 15$ per unit"19:05
spenserThis way canonical does not need to own a massive data center and can farm it out to hundereds of different clients19:06
spenseriono thats the idea so far19:07
russlarfarm out the cloud storage to folks with excess space...19:07
russlarhmmm....19:08
spenserstorage and processing power19:08
spenserboth could be done19:08
russlarthey's need a reserve data center to deal with a "run on the cloud" scenario19:08
russlarif the companies suddenly need the space they've farmed out19:08
spenserin theory yes, but if you have a big enough distributed cloud then you can pretty much guarentee that a percentage of service will be available19:09
spenserI got to go, but if anyone finds this interesting I hope it happens some day.19:11
seljehi...i used MS home Server before..what distro is best to the same things (file sharing via network/file sharing via internet)19:16
bogeyd6selje http://www.ubuntuhomeserver.org/19:21
seljebogeyd6: having trouble with ubuntu at the moment :-p maybe you can help me?19:23
bogeyd6kk19:23
seljebogeyd6: i installed a driver for my ati graphic card, and the next time im going to log in, i can't see the display19:24
seljebogeyd6: how do i edit the screen resolution?19:24
bogeyd6uhm19:27
bogeyd6which is it19:27
bogeyd6you cant see the display or it isnt big enough19:27
seljei can see the display, but its not readable19:28
bogeyd6selje go to rescue mode nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf scroll down to device look for driver entry, change all to ves. then cntrl +x , y, reboot.19:29
bogeyd6OHHHH19:29
bogeyd6to change resolution?19:29
seljeyes...19:30
bogeyd6http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8397319:30
seljethink it is the resolution who is messed up19:30
bogeyd6that should solve your problewm19:30
seljehmmm..not working..but thx for tips19:37
cemcgoogle.com20:15
cemcsorry20:15
UnixDawghey guys20:23
UnixDawgcan some one help me with these php modules20:23
UnixDawgphp5-xml php5-json php5-xmlwriter php5-xmlreader php5-posix php5-iconv php5-hash php5-simplexml php5-pcre php5-filter php5-dom php5-session php5-spl20:24
bogeyd6Can anyone explain to me what "dd bs=512 if=/dev/sdc(80gb) of=/dev/sdb(500gb) conv=noerror,sync" and why it keeps going after 80gb when the drive is 80gb?20:37
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gary0hi, i was hoping someone could help a first-time linux user better understand how volume ecryption works.23:43
gary0i have a hardware RAID5. i want to encrypt it and use XFS.23:44
gary0i've looked around, and found tutorials that tell me to (during the installer) select 'physical volume for encryption' and then after that, create the XFS partition.23:44
gary0now, i know i can increase the XFS partition.. but when i add a new drive to the RAID, can i add that free to the encrypted partition for XFS to have access to it?23:46
gary0that free space*23:46
gary0i guess a better way of phrasing it would be, can i add the free space on the physical drive to the free space on the encrypted partition, which i can then use to grow the existing XFS partition?23:50
JanCI don't think I can answer your question definitely, but I guess you're talkign about LUKS encryption?23:52
JanCand why do you want to use XFS?23:52
gary0i'm guessing that LUKS is what ubuntu server's installer uses to partition the drives, since that's the only encryption i've seen mentioned on google with regards to ubuntu.23:53
gary0and the RAID is going to have large files.23:53
gary0after reading around about the file systems available, i decided that XFS seems like the best to work with large files.23:54
gary0the installer let's you manually partition your drives.23:55
gary0i have a standalone drive that i'm going to install to, and the RAID to act as file storage.23:55
gary0i wanted to use encryption, but i23:55
gary0i've had trouble finding info on assigning the free space on the physical RAID to the existing encrypted volume.23:56
gary0without encryption, it should be easy... just grow the XFS partition to use the newly available space.  but with encryption, i'd need to add the free space to the encrypted partition before i can add grow XFS.23:57
JanChm, I never did anything like that, you might want to hang around until someone with experience wakes up  ツ23:58
gary0i might be grasping all this completely wrong.23:58
gary0if so, that'd be good to know too.23:59
JanCXFS is mostly useful for *huge* files AFAIK23:59
gary0what would you consider huge?23:59
JanClike uncompressed HD video  ;)23:59

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