[00:25] <UnixDawg> hello any devs here
[01:11] <panni_> hey, i want to integrate ubuntu server 9.04 CD into ultimate boot disk 5 beta (ubcd). works pretty well using syslinux or grub4dos using install/vmlinuz and install/initrd.gz. problem is, when i burn the ubuntu server installation disk i get a menu with "install" "recover os" etc. how can i get that into my custom DVD?
[01:28] <UnixDawg> 9.04 has treadiung issues I would wait
[01:28] <UnixDawg> till they fix them
[01:29] <panni_> thats not exactly related to my question, but thanks :D
[02:56] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #453180 in samba (main) "PC authenticating causes Samba crash" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/453180
[03:32] <iarp> Hey, someone was helping me earlier today with my LVM problem, they sent me a link to howtoforge.com
[03:33] <iarp> it was on expanding a partition, i'm having trouble expanding the partition on the main volumegroup
[05:20] <Sakunix> got an ubuntu server that will not boot. when i boot it the fonts on the terminal are massive and I can't read the messages. can someone help
[05:22] <coronaas> my old roomate left me his 9.04 ubuntu server. i Tried running >sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade . after completion i ran >sudo shutdown -r now. upon bootup the server hangs at acpi controller saying "unknown flash type"
[06:03] <coronaas> my old roomate left me his 9.04 ubuntu server. i Tried running >sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade . after completion i ran >sudo shutdown -r now. upon bootup the server hangs at acpi controller saying "unknown flash type"
[06:03] <coronaas> everything ive read is about this error occurring after flashing the Bios which i wasnt doing so im confused what went wrong.
[06:03] <coronaas> I tried reinstalling ubuntu and an still getting the same error
[06:03] <coronaas> one thing of note the boot drive was a 20 gig HDD with 2 400gb drives in a raid 5 format. I can view the raid when repartitioning the drive but i cant find the 20gig boot disc
[06:41] <coronaas> my old roomate left me his 9.04 ubuntu server. i Tried running >sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade . after completion i ran >sudo shutdown -r now. upon bootup the server hangs at acpi controller saying "unknown flash type"
[06:41] <coronaas> everything ive read is about this error occurring after flashing the Bios which i wasnt doing so im confused what went wrong.
[06:41] <coronaas> I tried reinstalling ubuntu and an still getting the same error
[06:41] <coronaas> one thing of note the boot drive was a 20 gig HDD with 2 400gb drives in a raid 5 format. I can view the raid when repartitioning the drive but i cant find the 20gig boot disc
[06:45] <Voting> I have a server, actually a virtual node on linode, and I want to be able to run twm or something slim and login using vnc (or some other screen sharing system). We happen to be real smart java programmers here but REAL DUMB systems admins. Anyone around can help us do this? Is this the right room to ask about this? … Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
[07:05] <MTecknology> Voting: why do you want to run a display manager on linode?
[07:06] <MTecknology> coronaas: don't use raid
[07:07] <MTecknology> coronaas: hardware raid causes many issues - see if not using it makes things work
[07:07] <Voting> because we like to debug using eclipse, etc. running on that machine, MTecknology.
[07:07] <Voting> MTecknology: also the machine this programmer has doesn't run the right OS to develop this software, etc. and until I get him a better machine, the linode is what we have.
[07:08] <MTecknology> I thought eclipse was cross platform
[07:09] <MTecknology> you should be able to just install gdm and gnome, ssh with X forwarding, then enable remote login and have him use a live cd to log into the system
[07:09] <Voting>  … http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=686479 and … http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=835165 are examples of the problems we are having.
[07:11] <Voting> MTecknology: let me see if I understand your idea. The java swing program we are debugging would run where?
[07:11] <MTecknology> server
[07:12] <MTecknology> keep in mind the linode will suffer from it
[07:12] <Voting> MTecknology: and we would be seeing the UI on the programmer's local machine because he is running an x-server?
[07:12] <MTecknology> you could also ask #linode on irc.oftc.net
[07:12] <Voting> they supply support there?
[07:12] <MTecknology> ya
[07:12] <Voting> COOL!
[07:13] <Voting> I'll check that out also! thanks!
[07:13] <Voting> brb
[07:14] <coronaas> Hey MT the rig was running fine when my roomate was using it and fine before I ran the update
[07:16] <MTecknology> just a suggestion
[07:17] <MTecknology> once this kernel compiles it's nap time
[07:21] <coronaas> ill try it out thanks but i dont think its the raid specifically causing the problems
[07:23] <MTecknology> coronaas: I've seen issues from raid controlers, ide contollers, etc.. that's just one specific thing I know caused many issues in the past for me
[07:44] <CCX> hi
[07:45] <CCX> can anyone please help with BIND setup
[07:46] <CCX> i have setup bind for 1 domain. its working, now i want to point my other domain to use the dns i just setup
[08:05] <pipedream>  
[08:43] <ghh> hello
[10:19] <teo350> hola
[10:19] <teo350> como istalar una tarjeta de red en server jaunty 9.0
[10:26] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #454519 in eucalyptus (main) "Public IP addresses should be assignable by DHCP" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/454519
[10:29] <stas> hi, anybody using apt-mirror tool?
[11:25] <Sakara> having some trouble still with my terminal on my ubuntu server anyone have any idea
[13:41] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #446263 in junit (multiverse) "sync request (unstable -> main) for getting maven built , FFe granted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/446263
[16:41] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #454734 in samba (main) "While adding printer, samba printers don't show in smb browser" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/454734
[17:22] <Family_> Hi
[17:22] <Family_> noob here
[17:23] <Family_> anyone know can ubuntu server 9.04 be installed trough harddrive?
[17:24] <Family_> helloo
[17:24] <Family_> am i using this thing right..
[17:24] <azteech> Family_, have you already downloaded the ISO to your harddrive?
[17:24] <Family_> yes sir
[17:25] <azteech> and have you burned it to cd?
[17:25] <Family_> thats not the problem
[17:25] <Family_> I want to install it from the harddricve
[17:25] <azteech> you running linux already?
[17:26] <Family_> no, windows
[17:26] <azteech> then you will need to burn it to cd, and install it from there,
[17:27] <azteech> that is unless you are running a windows virtual system .. then you might. but that is beyond me.
[17:29] <Family_> and i cant manage it without running linux at the first place?
[17:30] <Family_> u cant install it from harddrive
[17:30] <azteech> you need to burn it to cd, to boot into the linux os, that is where everything is done from (partitioning, setting up what server software you want to run, all the config files, etc.
[17:31] <azteech> nope, you can't ... sorry.
[17:32] <Family_> does that mean ubuntu server distro only, or all distros cant be done so
[17:33] <azteech> all server distro's have to be installed fresh .... maybe this will help to explain .... https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/serverguide.pdf
[17:34] <Family_> ok, thanks
[17:34] <azteech> you are most welcome.
[17:34] <azteech> good luck. if you have more questions feel free to ask away.
[17:57] <panni_> hey, i'm trying to boot "ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso" from grub and isolinux. it works well using kernel=/install/vmlinuz and initrd=/install/initrd.gz but then on boot it instantly loads the installer, not the splash menu which gets loaded if you pop in the CD directly. does anyone know how to tell the bootloader to load the original splash?
[18:01] <tramsei> I have a problem on Ubuntu with dhcpd3 not starting on boot.  i installed sysv-rc-conf and it says that it's setup to run on runlevels 2,3,4,5 but it doesn't appear to be running when i start the system.  any idea why this could be?
[18:02] <selje> is it possible to chance the screen resolution in Gnome, when im in command line?
[18:03] <tramsei> Anyone?
[18:16] <Family_> Im supposed to do my thesis on Linux server use
[18:16] <Family_> I have zero experience using linux and 2 months time
[18:16] <Family_> how hard can it be?
[18:19] <tramsei_> ?
[18:21] <Family_> no, im really asking. is it really hard?
[18:21] <Family_> installing/using ubuntu server
[18:28] <Family_> wow, everything ive heard about the enthusiastic linux community is true
[18:30] <russlar> Family_: no, it's just that there's nobody in this channel right now
[18:31] <Family_> youre here?
[18:31] <russlar> the question isn't how easy/hard is it to use linux as a server, it's what can you do with linux as a server
[18:32] <russlar> as for you're issue of 0 experience and two months time, I suggest you grab a copy of virtualbox from sun.com
[18:32] <russlar> and install various linuxes to your heart's content
[18:33] <russlar> i recomment centos, as the majority of real-world enterprise linux servers are red hat, and centos is a rebuild of red hat's source binaries
[18:33] <tramsei_> I have a problem on Ubuntu with dhcpd3 not starting on boot.  i installed sysv-rc-conf and it says that it's setup to run on runlevels 2,3,4,5 but it doesn't appear to be running when i start the system.  any idea why this could be?
[18:34] <russlar> tramsei_: anything in teh logs?
[18:34] <tramsei_> ls -l /etc/rc?.d/*dhcp3-server produces
[18:34] <tramsei_> http://pastebin.com/m6c648c79
[18:34] <russlar> right, look at the system logs
[18:34] <russlar> there's a reaason it's not starting
[18:35] <russlar> Family_: most commly, linux can be used as a web server
[18:35] <russlar> and ftp
[18:36] <russlar> and various specialized apps
[18:36] <Family_> be that the case, im writing about all the deployments that are available for it
[18:36] <Family_> DNS
[18:36] <Family_> print
[18:36] <Family_> ...
[18:36] <russlar> dhcp
[18:36] <russlar> your topic ex extremely open-ended
[18:37] <russlar> like I suggested, get yourself a copy of virtualbox, install centos, and set up a bunch of services on it
[18:37] <Family_> thats not included in the package list?
[18:37] <Family_> why, whats so great about Centos
[18:37] <russlar> Family_: read my comment earlier
[18:38] <russlar> [13:33] <russlar> i recomment centos, as the majority of real-world enterprise linux servers are red hat, and centos is a rebuild of red hat's source binaries
[18:38] <selje> hi mates... a question: is there any way to chance the desktop screen resolution in command line?
[18:38] <russlar> selje: xrandr is the cmd you want
[18:39] <selje> russlar: can't open display?
[18:39] <Family_> does it have a GUI
[18:41] <russlar> Family_: centos? yes. it uses gnome and/or kde 3.5
[18:42] <Family_> Which version of centos is meant for server, centos server?
[18:43] <russlar> Family_: centos doesn't work that way
[18:43] <Family_> Oh man
[18:43] <russlar> there is only centos
[18:44] <russlar> no server-specific version version, no desktop-specific version
[18:44] <russlar> linux is a networked os, capable of being both desktoip and server
[18:45] <russlar> unlike windows, which is a standalone OS that is network capable
[18:45] <russlar> and needs a server-specific version
[18:45] <russlar> the only difference between ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server is the installer, and server doesn't have a GUI
[18:45] <russlar> that's it
[18:45] <Family_> so how are the services deployed in comparison to windows where u just click on what you want
[18:46] <russlar> you install the packages you want
[18:46] <russlar> yum install httpd
[18:46] <russlar> you edit the config files
[18:46] <russlar> you start the service
[18:46] <Family_> jsut like any other program, say games?
[18:46] <russlar> service httpd start
[18:46] <russlar> no
[18:46] <Family_> okok
[18:47] <russlar> server serices are 90% configured from command line
[18:47] <Family_> are they hard to learn? :(
[18:47] <russlar> no really
[18:47] <russlar> there are example configs in most config files
[18:48] <Family_> why dosent ubuntu server have a gui, its just way more harder??
[18:48] <russlar> because it doesn't need a gui
[18:48] <russlar> back in the day, servers didn't have GUIs
[18:48] <Family_> o, so just because a car dosent need a doors u take them off...
[18:48] <russlar> everythign was done in command line
[18:48] <russlar> no......
[18:48] <russlar> a car needs doors
[18:49] <russlar> it doesn't need a fancy paint job
[18:49] <russlar> the paint job makes it look nicer, but it doesn't help the car rin any better
[18:49] <Family_> it might
[18:49] <Family_> !
[18:49] <russlar> a GUI for linux is simply a fancy paint job
[18:50] <Family_> i see
[18:51] <russlar> ubuntu server doesn't need the gui for anything, so the devs leave it off the instaler disc, so they can back more software on it instead
[18:52] <Family_> how do you think i should narraw down my thesis on linux
[18:52] <Family_> only write about dns, filem, print, DHCP
[18:53] <Family_> web maybe
[18:53] <russlar> how long does it need to be?
[18:53] <Family_> its jsut a high school paper
[18:53] <Family_> not really important
[18:54] <Family_> but id like to do kinda well
[18:54] <russlar> ahh....
[18:54] <russlar> of course
[18:54] <russlar> you could do a compare/contrast of linux vs windows
[18:55] <russlar> you could do a how-to of how to set up apache
[18:55] <russlar> (though that one might get heavy)
[18:56] <russlar> yeah, where you're jsut starting out with linux, I think a compare/contrast of linux vs windows might be a good choice
[18:57] <Family_> yeah
[18:58] <Family_> i have to go now, thanks for all the advice
[18:58] <Family_> !
[18:58] <spenser> I've been up to thinking abit and I came up with a pretty neat idea on how canonical could monetize on cloud services.
[18:58] <russlar> np
[18:59] <spenser> There could be a system in place where canonical controls the advertising and billing services and each ubuntu cloud cluster could opt-in to have clients from this network added to there machine.
[18:59] <spenser> by machine i mean cloud
[19:00] <spenser> If prices were fair this could be a big opportunity to monetize on essentially a distributed cloud architecture.
[19:01] <russlar> spenser: kind of a thin-clients in teh sky?
[19:01] <spenser> yes, kind of but let me make a quick example.
[19:03] <spenser> Say, company X needs y amount of capacity in there cloud based data center.  They know that using this capacity is a worst case scenario but it needs to be there all the time.
[19:04] <russlar> emergency disaster-recovery storage?
[19:05] <spenser> The company sets up a deal with an a canonical and that says "Hey we have this much space that we will not always need you can use this to place VM's on our network for a price of 15$ per unit"
[19:06] <spenser> This way canonical does not need to own a massive data center and can farm it out to hundereds of different clients
[19:07] <spenser> iono thats the idea so far
[19:07] <russlar> farm out the cloud storage to folks with excess space...
[19:08] <russlar> hmmm....
[19:08] <spenser> storage and processing power
[19:08] <spenser> both could be done
[19:08] <russlar> they's need a reserve data center to deal with a "run on the cloud" scenario
[19:08] <russlar> if the companies suddenly need the space they've farmed out
[19:09] <spenser> in theory yes, but if you have a big enough distributed cloud then you can pretty much guarentee that a percentage of service will be available
[19:11] <spenser> I got to go, but if anyone finds this interesting I hope it happens some day.
[19:16] <selje> hi...i used MS home Server before..what distro is best to the same things (file sharing via network/file sharing via internet)
[19:21] <bogeyd6> selje http://www.ubuntuhomeserver.org/
[19:23] <selje> bogeyd6: having trouble with ubuntu at the moment :-p maybe you can help me?
[19:23] <bogeyd6> kk
[19:24] <selje> bogeyd6: i installed a driver for my ati graphic card, and the next time im going to log in, i can't see the display
[19:24] <selje> bogeyd6: how do i edit the screen resolution?
[19:27] <bogeyd6> uhm
[19:27] <bogeyd6> which is it
[19:27] <bogeyd6> you cant see the display or it isnt big enough
[19:28] <selje> i can see the display, but its not readable
[19:29] <bogeyd6> selje go to rescue mode nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf scroll down to device look for driver entry, change all to ves. then cntrl +x , y, reboot.
[19:29] <bogeyd6> OHHHH
[19:29] <bogeyd6> to change resolution?
[19:30] <selje> yes...
[19:30] <bogeyd6> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[19:30] <selje> think it is the resolution who is messed up
[19:30] <bogeyd6> that should solve your problewm
[19:37] <selje> hmmm..not working..but thx for tips
[20:15] <cemc> google.com
[20:15] <cemc> sorry
[20:23] <UnixDawg> hey guys
[20:23] <UnixDawg> can some one help me with these php modules
[20:24] <UnixDawg> php5-xml php5-json php5-xmlwriter php5-xmlreader php5-posix php5-iconv php5-hash php5-simplexml php5-pcre php5-filter php5-dom php5-session php5-spl
[20:37] <bogeyd6> Can anyone explain to me what "dd bs=512 if=/dev/sdc(80gb) of=/dev/sdb(500gb) conv=noerror,sync" and why it keeps going after 80gb when the drive is 80gb?
[23:43] <gary0> hi, i was hoping someone could help a first-time linux user better understand how volume ecryption works.
[23:44] <gary0> i have a hardware RAID5. i want to encrypt it and use XFS.
[23:44] <gary0> i've looked around, and found tutorials that tell me to (during the installer) select 'physical volume for encryption' and then after that, create the XFS partition.
[23:46] <gary0> now, i know i can increase the XFS partition.. but when i add a new drive to the RAID, can i add that free to the encrypted partition for XFS to have access to it?
[23:46] <gary0> that free space*
[23:50] <gary0> i guess a better way of phrasing it would be, can i add the free space on the physical drive to the free space on the encrypted partition, which i can then use to grow the existing XFS partition?
[23:52] <JanC> I don't think I can answer your question definitely, but I guess you're talkign about LUKS encryption?
[23:52] <JanC> and why do you want to use XFS?
[23:53] <gary0> i'm guessing that LUKS is what ubuntu server's installer uses to partition the drives, since that's the only encryption i've seen mentioned on google with regards to ubuntu.
[23:53] <gary0> and the RAID is going to have large files.
[23:54] <gary0> after reading around about the file systems available, i decided that XFS seems like the best to work with large files.
[23:55] <gary0> the installer let's you manually partition your drives.
[23:55] <gary0> i have a standalone drive that i'm going to install to, and the RAID to act as file storage.
[23:55] <gary0> i wanted to use encryption, but i
[23:56] <gary0> i've had trouble finding info on assigning the free space on the physical RAID to the existing encrypted volume.
[23:57] <gary0> without encryption, it should be easy... just grow the XFS partition to use the newly available space.  but with encryption, i'd need to add the free space to the encrypted partition before i can add grow XFS.
[23:58] <JanC> hm, I never did anything like that, you might want to hang around until someone with experience wakes up  ツ
[23:58] <gary0> i might be grasping all this completely wrong.
[23:59] <gary0> if so, that'd be good to know too.
[23:59] <JanC> XFS is mostly useful for *huge* files AFAIK
[23:59] <gary0> what would you consider huge?
[23:59] <JanC> like uncompressed HD video  ;)