[01:09] <Nivex> /etc/iscsi/iscsi.initramfs does NOT exist
[01:11] <cjwatson> Nivex: are you looking on the filesystem, or in the initramfs (e.g. at a busybox prompt)?
[01:11] <CIA-33> clock-setup: cjwatson * r212 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.98ubuntu3
[01:28] <cjwatson> Nivex: (I suspect the former, but just checking.)
[01:29] <cjwatson> Nivex: I think debugging this may require another test installation, unfortunately. Can you do that? If so, what you'll need to do is:
[01:29] <cjwatson> Nivex: 1) run through the installer until you get to the hostname prompt
[01:29] <cjwatson> Nivex: 2) switch to tty2, start a shell, and run 'nano /lib/partman/finish.d/70iscsi_settings'
[01:30] <cjwatson> Nivex: 3) insert a line reading just 'set -x' somewhere near the top, preferably between '#! /bin/sh' and '# Install iSCSI packages ...'
[01:31] <cjwatson> Nivex: 4) complete installation, and attach /var/log/installer/syslog again to your bug
[01:31] <cjwatson> Nivex: I have to go to bed now, so will check back in the morning
[01:31] <cjwatson> thanks in advance!
[01:41] <Nivex> nuts, I just realized I'm not gonna be able to do another install run until at least Tuesday night :(
[01:52] <CIA-33> ubiquity: shtylman * r3530 trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Fixed India timezone map (LP: #453009)
[03:51] <Nivex> oh who am I kidding?  I don't need sleep :)
[03:51]  * Nivex fires up the install
[04:02] <Nivex> cjwatson: that file didn't exist at that point, I had to move on an extra step to the Timezone dialog
[04:13] <Nivex> *sigh* I really need to watch where I have iSCSI things mounted from
[04:27] <Nivex> thank goodness for squid
[04:27] <Nivex> alrighty, bug updated with debug info
[04:28] <Nivex> now I'm off to bed :)
[09:04] <davmor2> cjwatson: if you find a fix for wubi and you need it testing fire up a respin and give me a ping and I'll get on it pronto :)
[09:20] <CIA-33> partman-iscsi: cjwatson * r32 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog finish.d/iscsi_settings): Fix root mount point detection (LP: #454998).
[09:24] <CIA-33> partman-iscsi: cjwatson * r33 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 6
[09:52] <evand> shtylman: thanks for the timezone fix.
[10:53] <CIA-33> usb-creator: evand * r236 trunk/ (debian/changelog usbcreator/backends/devicekit/backend.py):
[10:53] <CIA-33> usb-creator: Properly mount the device when the user requests to open it in a
[10:53] <CIA-33> usb-creator: file manager (LP: #455199).
[11:32] <ogra> ogra@babbage2:~$ ls -l /dev/tty* |grep ogra
[11:32] <ogra> crw------- 1 ogra tty    4,  1 2009-10-19 12:26 /dev/tty1
[11:32] <ogra> crw------- 1 ogra tty    4,  2 2009-10-19 12:31 /dev/tty2
[11:32] <ogra> how can that happen ?
[11:32] <ogra> (it's a fresh install, completely untouched yet)
[11:32] <ogra> the rest of the ttys are root,tty owned
[11:37] <cjwatson> ogra: are you logged in on those ttys?
[11:38] <ogra> oh, yes i think i was
[11:38] <cjwatson> ttys are chowned to you when you log in
[11:38] <ogra> oh, is that new or did i just never notice ?
[11:39] <cjwatson> been that way as long as I've been using Linux
[11:39] <ogra> in any case i get mknod errors from console-setup ... i just ran into this when i was checking where they come from
[11:39] <cjwatson> what errors exactly?
[11:40] <ogra> "device exists"
[11:40] <ogra> with the tty name
[11:40] <ogra> its the mknod call from the init-top script i think
[11:41] <cjwatson> that's guarded with a [ -c ] test though
[11:41] <ogra> yeah, i saw that
[11:41] <cjwatson> you sure it's from console-setup code?
[11:41] <ogra> but it's the only mknod i can find in /etc/init or /usr/share/initramfs-tools that could be related
[11:42] <cjwatson> a transcript would be nice
[11:42] <ogra> unless there is a udev rule that calls mknod
[11:45] <ogra> "mknod: /dev/tty5: File exists" is the exact error msg this boot
[11:45] <ogra> smells racy
[11:45] <ogra> (the numbers vary and it doesnt happen each boot)
[11:46] <cjwatson> it's always possible to race with udev's default device creation
[11:46] <cjwatson> it'll be harmless though - errors from that script are ignored
[11:47] <cjwatson> so I'd file a bug and move on if I were you :)
[11:47] <ogra> indeed its harmless but given there was some effort to not have messages during boot i thought i'd take a look :)
[12:10] <tjaalton> karmic fails to boot after a fresh preseeded install, mounting devpts fails and dmesg shows "devpts: called with bogus options"
[12:10] <tjaalton> ideas about that one?
[12:11] <cjwatson> is it listed in /etc/fstab?
[12:11] <cjwatson> (I'd expect not)
[12:11] <cjwatson> sounds like a mountall bug anyway
[12:11] <tjaalton> hmm
[12:12] <tjaalton> looks like my passwd/group are broken, and that's a local bug ;)
[12:12] <cjwatson> ./src/mountall.c:242:   { "/dev/pts",                 NULL,        FALSE, "devpts",      "noexec,nosuid,gid=tty,mode=0620", NULL         },
[12:12] <cjwatson> ah
[12:12] <tjaalton> yeah, no tty group available, so..
[12:13] <tjaalton> that said, a friend of mine said that a fresh install added "vga=799" option for the kernel
[12:13] <tjaalton> and filed a bug about it
[12:13] <cjwatson> I've already commented on that bug ...
[12:13] <cjwatson> am waiting for more info back from him
[12:14] <tjaalton> ah good
[12:15] <tjaalton> so I see.. yeah it's pretty strange
[12:15] <davmor2> evand, cjwatson: should the bar on resize move off of 0%?  on resize the disc activity is manic but nothing register on the bar
[12:15] <cjwatson> ideally it *ought* to, but that bug has been open since about 4.10 ;-)
[12:15] <evand> heh
[12:16] <cjwatson> we normally use an external tool for resizing rather than part of libparted, and so at the moment we have no way to get progress information back from it
[12:19] <davmor2> ah okay
[12:20] <davmor2> cjwatson: out of interest why don't you use libparted?
[12:20] <cjwatson> libparted clones and hacks filesystem implementation code
[12:21] <cjwatson> this was fine for a while, but it doesn't work with many more modern filesystem configurations (e.g. ext* with the resize_inode feature, which has been enabled by default for years), and it's hideously difficult to update
[12:21] <cjwatson> so basically we can't use it 'cos it's busted :)
[12:28] <davmor2> cjwatson: that sounds fair :)
[13:18] <lool> evand: Thanks for chasing the APT popup bug on moblin cds~
[13:18] <lool> *CDs!
[13:18] <evand> sure thing
[13:19] <evand> waiting to hear back from mvo
[13:19] <evand> on whether its an apt bug or not
[13:21] <lool> evand: Would it help if we included empty Packages.gz fils?
[13:21] <lool> files
[13:21] <evand> lool: that would work around the bug, yes
[13:21] <evand> I believe so, anyway
[13:22] <evand> that's where apt is getting choked up
[13:22] <lool> I guess it doesn't like the Relesae file not signing *anything*
[13:22] <evand> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/296733/ fixes it, but I'm not sure if it's correct
[13:22] <evand> indeed
[13:23] <lool> evand: I think I prefer fixing it in APT, but I certainly don't mind adding the workaround now
[13:23] <lool> I'll look into it
[13:24] <evand> thanks
[13:25] <ogra> evand, hmm, somehow my armel SD cards created with usb-creator dont boot :(
[13:25] <ogra> it boots fine if i just use dd
[13:25] <evand> interesting.  This is using disk images, I take it?
[13:26] <ogra> yep
[13:26] <ogra> usb-creator offered me the device as well as the existing partition as target, i chose the device
[13:27] <evand> ogra: can you pastebin your ~/.usbcreator.log?
[13:28] <ogra>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/296795/
[13:33] <evand> ogra: can you also pastebin the output of `devkit-disks --dump`?
[13:33] <evand> thanks
[13:34] <ogra> will do after the install is done (the SD is in use now)
[13:35] <evand> sure thing, thanks
[13:57] <evand> cjwatson: was about to mark bug 40627 as fix released, but realized it was assigned to you.  I've tried to reproduce this in Karmic and cannot reproduce it (as expected).  Do you mind if I close it?
[13:59] <cjwatson> it's only assigned to me because I fixed it but then somebody reopened it
[13:59] <cjwatson> if it isn't reproducible, go ahead and close it, I don't mind
[13:59] <evand> sure thing, thanks
[13:59] <cjwatson> it seemed to be specific to nvidia (?) - did you check that?
[13:59] <cjwatson> not that I care that much :)
[14:00] <evand> indeed
[14:44] <ogra> evand, http://paste.ubuntu.com/296852/
[15:04] <ara> cjwatson, hello
[15:04] <ara> cjwatson, is this bug supposed to be fixed in the latest iso images?
[15:04] <ara> cjwatson, https://bugs.launchpad.net/language-selector/+bug/434173
[15:07] <cjwatson> should be. of course not everything will be installed since it won't all be on the CD
[15:07] <cjwatson> but it should install what it can
[15:09] <ara> cjwatson, is Spanish complete on the CD?
[15:09] <ara> cjwatson, nevertheless, shouldn't be this installed using the internet connection if I had one
[15:10] <cjwatson> no language is *complete* on the CD, not even English. gimp-help-common is enormous.
[15:10] <davmor2> shtylman, evand: on a ubiquity install on OEM why does the option for use password and unencrypt drive appear?
[15:10] <cjwatson> ara: maybe
[15:10] <cjwatson> ara: happy to look at logs
[15:10] <dpm> ara, IIRC, the Spanish language packs were on the CD
[15:10] <cjwatson> dpm: language packs != language support packages
[15:10] <cjwatson> please don't confuse the issue :)
[15:11] <dpm> cjwatson, yes, that's why I said language packs :)
[15:11] <cjwatson> dpm: the bug above has nothing to do with language packs
[15:11] <evand> davmor2: in oem-config or in ubiquity?
[15:12] <davmor2> evand: in ubiquity
[15:12] <dpm> cjwatson, I see, yes. It was probably my forwarding ara the bug. Ara, what's exactly the problem you are seeing?
[15:12] <davmor2> evand: during the install for oem-user not oem-config
[15:12] <dpm> I meant it was probably my fault
[15:13] <evand> hrm, good point.  It's a bit silly to have there.
[15:13] <evand> Please file a bug
[15:13] <cjwatson> dpm: well, I'd like to dig into it (modulo the seven billion other things I need to do ...) as this is new code and it could be wrong
[15:14] <ara> dpm, some packages are missing and I don't know if they need to be installed by default
[15:14] <ara> dpm, list of packages:
[15:15] <ara> http://paste.ubuntu.com/296874/
[15:15] <cjwatson> ara: I need the installer syslog, I think
[15:17] <ara> cjwatson, sure thing
[15:17] <ara> cjwatson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/296877/
[15:18] <cjwatson> oh, alternate CD
[15:18] <cjwatson> please do say that up-front :)
[15:19] <ara> cjwatson, oops :)
[15:20] <ara> cjwatson, I am running alternate cd and some language packages are not be installed, should I be worried? :)
[15:21] <davmor2> evand: want it assigning to you?
[15:21] <evand> davmor2: sure
[15:22] <davmor2> evand: Bug 455479
[15:24] <cjwatson> ara: could I see /etc/apt/sources.list too?
[15:24] <cjwatson> it appears not to have downloaded index files from archive.ubuntu.com at any point
[15:25] <cjwatson> ara: you didn't hit Cancel when it was configuring apt, did you?
[15:25] <ara> cjwatson, I didn't
[15:25] <evand> davmor2: thanks
[15:25] <davmor2> evand: np's
[15:27] <ara> cjwatson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/296886/
[15:28] <cjwatson> hmm, that *looks* fine
[15:28] <cjwatson> so why is it not doing apt-get update from it?!
[15:31] <davmor2> evand: Kubuntu oem-config is setting usa keyboard on Lang=English timezone=uk
[15:40] <CIA-33> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3531 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/check-kernels scripts/install.py):
[15:40] <CIA-33> ubiquity: Install -generic-pae kernels if necessary; this requires some custom
[15:40] <CIA-33> ubiquity: hacks since -generic-pae isn't in the live filesystem (LP: #413135).
[15:40] <CIA-33> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3532 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py): Don't do kernel installation/removal in oem-config.
[15:42] <davmor2> evand: also user details page is full of yellow /!\  warnings
[15:42] <evand> davmor2: looking into it now.
[15:44] <davmor2> evand: I'm assuming it's only because they have been detected as being empty.
[15:45] <evand> cjwatson: thoughts on whether we should move forward with my proposed patch on bug 364617 or not would be appreciated whenever you have a free moment.
[15:49] <cjwatson> evand: does it have any effect on the initial layout - i.e. will it prevent the window from starting out within (say) 800x600?
[15:50] <evand> cjwatson: no, not from my limited testing nor from my understanding of the code.
[15:51] <cjwatson> so it just means that you can resize wider but not narrower again?
[15:52] <evand> correct
[15:52] <evand> because it will set the size request to be the width of the current allocation
[15:53] <cjwatson> seems a bit weird but not that bad
[16:02] <evand> okay, I'll commit it then.  Hopefully the extended layout branch of GTK will land in Lucid, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
[16:07] <CIA-33> ubiquity: evand * r3533 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py):
[16:07] <CIA-33> ubiquity: Wrap the format warning label while working around GTK+ label layout
[16:07] <CIA-33> ubiquity: problems (LP: #364617).
[16:10] <cjwatson> ara: I can't reproduce this; I wonder if you had a transient network problem
[16:10] <ara> cjwatson, I'll try again myself
[16:11] <cjwatson> in fact, yes, you did
[16:11] <cjwatson> it has quite a short timeout because people complain otherwise
[16:11] <cjwatson> 10 seconds
[16:11] <cjwatson> so if it doesn't get a response from es.archive.ubuntu.com within 10 seconds, it'll give up and assume you'll sort it out later
[16:11] <cjwatson> there's a 10-second pause in your log around the right time
[16:12] <cjwatson> ara: did you get a desktop notification telling you about the incomplete language support?
[16:12] <ara> cjwatson, no, only when I went to language support menu and updated the index
[16:13] <cjwatson> huh, that's a bit odd
[16:13] <cjwatson> oh, of course, it didn't even realise that it was incomplete
[16:14] <cjwatson> I think it's best to consider this a known gotcha for karmic; I'm not sure we can do anything about this in the time available without causing some other bug to pop up elsewhere
[16:14] <ara> cjwatson, ok. I will keep testing
[16:15] <cjwatson> for lucid I'm pretty tempted to whack that timeout back up, since we now have working cancellation at that point
[16:15] <cjwatson> I could be persuaded to increase it for karmic if this affects lots of people, maybe
[16:16] <cjwatson> I find it hard to judge
[16:45] <bdmurray> cjwatson: where does bug 453261 belong?
[16:47] <cjwatson> bdmurray: probably usplash
[16:48] <cjwatson> bdmurray: can't reproduce it here though
[16:49] <cjwatson> I get the Ubuntu logo and "Checking integrity, this may take some time" as expected
[16:49] <cjwatson> then "Check finished: no errors found" "Press any key to reboot your system"
[16:49] <bdmurray> I'll test again then
[16:53] <bdmurray> cjwatson: hmm, well it does seem fixed
[17:05] <davmor2> evand, cjwatson: serious issue on kubuntu you can't move the slider on auto resize ubiquity crashes just getting the info
[17:15] <davmor2> evand, cjwatson: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/syslog
[17:29] <iamfuzz> hello all, I'm trying to customize a live CD
[17:29] <iamfuzz> from what I understand the default livecd user is ubuntu
[17:29] <iamfuzz> I would like to pre-populate some things in /home/ubuntu but it doesn't appear that user is created until boot time
[17:30] <cjwatson> right
[17:30] <iamfuzz> is there a way to do it properly?
[17:30] <iamfuzz> i.e. if I manually create the ubuntu user, will that dork casper up
[17:30] <iamfuzz> ?
[17:30] <cjwatson> yes, don't do that
[17:31] <cjwatson> either edit /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper-bottom/10adduser, or create a new script that runs after that following the same style, that adds your stuff at boot time
[17:32] <cjwatson> in either case, run update-initramfs -u and copy the resulting /boot/initrd.img-* to /casper/initrd.gz on the CD (I think there's advice on this in the standard live CD customisation docs)
[17:32] <iamfuzz> thx colin, I'll give it a go
[17:44] <iamfuzz> cjwatson, does /etc/skel funtionality still work for the ubuntu user?
[17:47] <davmor2> evand: bug 455580
[17:49] <evand> davmor2: added to my list
[17:50] <evand> ogra: do you happen to know what the magic runes are to boot these disk images with qemu-system-arm?
[17:51] <davmor2> evand: he keeps them in his pocket so no-one else can play ;)
[17:51] <evand> :)
[17:58] <cjwatson> iamfuzz: I think so, although if you customise that in the live filesystem, beware that it'll apply to any user created during installation too
[18:46] <davmor2> meh
[18:47] <davmor2> evand: while your at it the clicky buttons for format in manual don't click
[18:47] <evand> davmor2: clicky buttons?
[18:48] <davmor2> checkbox that the word I couldn't think of
[18:48] <superm1> haha "clicky buttons"  i thought all buttons were "clicky" :)
[18:49] <davmor2> superm1: just couldn't think of the name
[19:28] <davmor2> evand: bug 455653
[20:01] <cjwatson> typical, when I try to reproduce the wubi bug, I can't. I'll try again after karate training I guess
[20:02] <davmor2> cjwatson: :D
[20:13] <Nivex> am I correct in inferring that the default task is ubuntu-desktop, even on network installs, unless otherwise specified?
[21:29] <NCommander> cjwatson, ping, when are you planning to upload ubiquity 2.0.1? (I have the partman-uboot changes done, but I need to do one more round of testing since I found a last minute big that I fixed)
[22:49] <cjwatson> NCommander: before I go to bed tonight
[22:49] <cjwatson> Nivex: only on CDs; netboot installs prompt
[22:53] <NCommander> cjwatson, can you look at merging https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/455713? (the ubiquity branch is still pushing)
[22:59] <NCommander> cjwatson, I need to run for class, but I'll be back in ~2-3 hours I hope
[23:04] <cjwatson> I'll be in bed before that
[23:04] <cjwatson> I'll look at the bug, thanks
[23:06] <CIA-33> partman-auto: cjwatson * r306 ubuntu/ (4 files in 2 dirs): merge lp:~mcasadevall/partman-auto/use-uboot-on-dove
[23:07] <CIA-33> partman-auto: cjwatson * r307 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 89ubuntu2
[23:08] <cjwatson> NCommander: "elif fs in ('uboot'):" can't have been tested
[23:08] <cjwatson> you need == 'uboot' or in ('uboot',) otherwise that test means "is fs any of 'u', 'b', 'o', or 't'"
[23:09] <cjwatson> nevertheless, the rest looks OK, but I think I might need to add some more bits
[23:09] <CIA-33> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3534 ubiquity/ (5 files in 4 dirs): merge lp:~mcasadevall/ubiquity/use-uboot-on-dove
[23:09] <CIA-33> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3535 ubiquity/ubiquity/components/partman.py: fix test
[23:10] <CIA-33> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3536 ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/kde_ui.py: list uboot in on_partition_edit_use_combo_changed too
[23:13] <CIA-33> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3537 ubiquity/ubiquity/components/partman.py: handle partman-uboot/mountpoint
[23:58] <TheMuso> c/