ScottKjames_w: It looks like you've been keeping qbzr up to date.  Are you up for packaging their new upstream release (fixes a critical bug)?01:11
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macoany kde cdbs ninjas around?03:18
macoJontheEchidna: im trying to fix a FTBFS. so far ive found that "debian/rules build" works dandy. "debian/rules binary", however, deletes *.cpp then whines because it cant find the code. all thats in rules in includes for debhelper.mk and kde.mk ... any idea what's up?03:24
JontheEchidnawhat package?03:24
macoJontheEchidna: ^03:27
JontheEchidnaergh, forgot about that one. I re-upped darkroom for a library transition and it failed03:27
JontheEchidnahmm, the best I can think, maybe something in the translation-stripper code is deleting the file for some reason03:29
JontheEchidnaperhaps a corner case bug in the translation cdbs code03:29
JontheEchidnaThat's the only place where I know that the cdbs rules actually delete anything03:30
macoi dont think i have the translation stripper package installed in my pbuilder03:31
JontheEchidnakde.mk does it's own thing for translation handling in order to work with binarypkgmangler, so it gets run even when binarypkgmangler isn't installed03:32
macoso you think kde.mk deletes .cpp files?03:33
JontheEchidnatry setting KUBUNTU_NO_DELETE_POT=true in debian/rules03:33
dtchensuperm1: any possibility you could install alsa-utils_1.0.20-2ubuntu3 from LP librarian and use the procedure in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/352732/comments/63, please?03:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 352732 in pulseaudio "[jaunty] Sound muted after boot" [Undecided,Confirmed]03:33
JontheEchidnareally it should only be deleting .pot files, but it could be misbehaving03:33
dtchensuperm1: I can't reproduce the symptom at all, but you and others seem to be able to03:33
macoJontheEchidna: i did echo "KUBUNTU_NO_DELETE_POT=true" >> debian/rules and then debian/rules binary and it still deleted teh cpps03:35
JontheEchidnameh :(03:36
maco(there are no editors installed in pbuilder AFAICT)03:36
* JontheEchidna has a hook that installs nano un-permanently upon build failure03:36
wgrantmaco: There aren't any editors, but you can vim from outside.03:36
macoi had to pick a very WTF build failure, didnt i?03:37
dtchenI'd much rather deal with FTBFS than angry users and angry upstreams.03:38
macohaha good point. your side of the room is full of grrrr right now03:38
* JontheEchidna wonders if cmake.mk would suffice in darkroom's case03:38
macos/kde/cmake/ ?03:40
macow/ sed on rules?03:40
* maco tries03:40
macothat...appears to have worked!03:45
JontheEchidnathen that definitely means something in kde.mk is borked03:46
JontheEchidnaor more likely one of kde.mk's included .mk files03:46
JontheEchidnaI wonder if it would work if you unincluded kubuntu.mk in kde.mk03:47
* JontheEchidna will play around with it a bit03:47
JontheEchidnaif it is, I will add it to my list of "things I do fixing our rosetta compat that keep me from doing better things"03:48
lex79JontheEchidna: btw it's KUBUNTU_NO_DELETE_POT=1 and not =true, does it the same thing?03:51
JontheEchidnalex79: hmm, maybe it should be 1, not sure03:51
lex79yes it's =1, but I'm wondering if you set =true, it's the same03:52
JontheEchidnanot sure03:52
JontheEchidnathe fact that we have to have such a workaround is bullcrap in the first place03:53
JontheEchidna(where a universe package requires the .pot to build and doesn't have a Messages.sh around to generate a fresh .pot)03:53
lex79uhm yes03:54
JontheEchidnajust more proof of the unmaintainability of kubuntu's translation stack at the moment [/rant]03:59
JontheEchidnaha, it is kubuntu translation stuff causing the failure04:21
* JontheEchidna officially adds this to the list of "things I do fixing our rosetta compat that keep me from doing better things"04:21
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macoJontheEchidna: lovely. well guess what? the program doesnt work after its compiled ANYWAY05:17
JontheEchidnacould be a consequence of not using kde.mk05:17
maconah bug 38198605:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 381986 in darkroom "No images displayed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38198605:18
macofor me, it does that bug, then it crashes on an assert05:18
macoalso, the svn date attached to the package is in DDMMYYYY order so it wont sort right -_05:19
superm1dtchen, no my problem appears to be different.  my volumes weren't getting muted, they just weren't being stored at all (most likely due to a problem that FLAG stuff)06:34
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wrapsterwhat is the use of dirs in the debian directory?08:52
hyperairup to the packager08:53
hyperairgenerally they are temporary directories to make install files into before packing them off into debs08:53
hyperairor debian/patches for patches08:53
hyperairor some other custom directories for other things08:53
wrapsterok ...no harm in removing it though right? supposing i dont require it08:54
hyperairwhat directory, and what's in it exactly?09:01
LaneyI think he means debian/dirs09:01
Laneyit's for creating empty directories in your package09:01
* hyperair headdesks09:02
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YokoZarBah, new upstream release of spring-engine today that breaks multiplayer sync unless you update...10:30
YokoZarGuess I may be able to sneak it in to karmic10:30
LucidFoxSo, what happened to ffmpeg?11:00
LucidFoxThe -unstripped packages have been removed, correct?11:00
ScottKYokoZar: FFe for fixing a game is generally easy.11:33
dtchensuperm1: well, your symptom was different, but the root cause for both yours and the others lies in alsa-utils12:00
dtchensuperm1: it's probably best to just revert the initscript to the version in 1.0.20-2ubuntu312:01
joaopintothere is also an warzone upgrade breaking network compatibility12:33
ScottKjoaopinto: Getting an FFe for that should be easy.13:46
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JontheEchidnamaco: I got darkroom to build with kde.mk, mind if I upload? The problem was that quilt.mk wasn't being included, so our FTBFS patch that was already there wasn't being applied.14:52
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JontheEchidnamm, maybe it should be removed from the archive. It really doesn't work14:58
RhondaHi. My brother wants to install ubuntu on his new laptop and I want to burn the CD for him. I need it tonight so I can't wait for the next RC or such. Is the beta linked from the main page the best option, or shall I fetch a daily build?15:02
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bddebianHeya gang15:54
sistpoty|workhi bddebian16:05
sebnerhuhu sistpoty|work bddebian16:07
sistpoty|workhi sebner16:07
bddebianHeya sistpoty|work, sebner16:08
sebnersistpoty|work: it seems we need to stick with a backport for nexuiz :(16:09
sistpoty|worksebner: looks like it :/16:09
sebnersistpoty|work: I made fuddl some pressure 2 days ago but the only progress was the update to 2.5.2 and breakage for -data xD16:10
CarlFKwhy doesn't the python package include python binary?  http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/all/python/filelist16:13
JontheEchidnaCarlFK: that's all kept in the python=<versionnumber> package that the python package depends on16:14
JontheEchidna!info python hardy16:14
ubottupython (source: python-defaults): An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.5.2-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 137 kB, installed size 600 kB16:14
JontheEchidnayeah, that depends on the python-2.5 package which has the binary16:15
JontheEchidnaoh, actually the binary is in python-minimal16:15
CarlFKpython-minimal not have readline ?16:16
* JontheEchidna doesn't know what readline is16:17
CarlFKapparently it is what makes back-arrow move the cursor back16:17
joaopintosebner, can't you just file an FFe for nexuiz ?16:17
JontheEchidnaah, a function16:17
CarlFKas opposed to >>> ^[[D16:18
sebnerjoaopinto: Debian version isn't ready and I refuse to upload anything else16:18
joaopintosebner, so you prefer to keep a non working version :)16:18
sebnerjoaopinto: why non-working?16:19
joaopintosebner, wasn't the network protocol changed ?16:20
sebnersistpoty|work: do you know something about that?16:20
zuldholbach: i need your mad skillz16:20
dholbachzul: my mad skills?16:21
zuldholbach: yeah can you translate this for me https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nis/+bug/307167/comments/2 ;)16:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 307167 in nis "NIS with LTSP" [Low,Incomplete]16:21
sebnerjoaopinto: didn't found any corresponding bug report. Besides I'm wondering what's with all the PPA versions. I doubt they are really correct when DM has such problem with it (e.g Upstream checksums on the files etc )16:23
dholbachzul: "ok unfortunately I need to reply in German now. the problem is that NIS users can authenticate to a ltsp client but can't use usb sticks or any usb devices. it doesn't matter if it's ldm or gdm. in my opinion this is about group permissions. entries in the NSSWITCH file were not made use of. I tried lots of different howtos they all didn't work out"16:26
ghostcubegerman is a mad skill rofl16:27
ghostcubehavent known this til now16:27
ghostcubefirefox 3.5.4 drives me nuts16:27
zuldholbach: merci beacoup16:27
dholbachde rien16:27
sistpoty|worksebner: no, but it wouldn't surprise me too much if nexuiz changed the network protocol16:28
ghostcubethe game ?16:29
CarlFKhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/python-minimal says "See /usr/share/doc/python-minimal/README.Debian for a list of the modules contained in this package. "  that file does not have the list16:29
sebnersistpoty|work: I have 2.5.1 installed now though but I don't think so. I only read about improving the protocol so downloads work faster now16:29
CarlFKanyone know where the list is?16:30
ghostcubehttp://www.getdeb.net/changes.php?id=4236  would be mentioned here so far if anything happened in the game proto16:30
sistpoty|worksebner: you'll need to test it then :P16:30
sebnersistpoty|work: heh true but I only have 1mbit currently :(16:30
ghostcube Totally rewritten Client/Server communication to cut the bandwidth16:30
ghostcube       usage in half16:30
CarlFKfound it: /usr/share/doc/python2.6-minimal/README.Debian16:31
ghostcubeso sebner i think they have done anything in the proto thingy16:31
joaopintoopen source games tend to change the protocol on each realease :P16:32
ghostcubehi joaopinto heh16:32
sebnerghostcube: the question is if it's still compatible with version 2.4.x which we have in ubuntu, I think so16:32
ghostcubesebner: ehm havent played it a long time16:32
ghostcubemay joaopinto knows it16:32
sebnersistpoty|work: do you have karmic version installed right no? We need a deep test :P :P :P16:33
joaopintonah, I am not an FPS player, I have just tested the latest version, it works16:33
sistpoty|worksebner: sorry, no gaming at work for me :(16:33
joaopintoevent he single player, which was broken due to the checksum validation16:33
sebnerjoaopinto: ack16:33
sebnerjoaopinto: did you fix it (playdeb has 2.5.2 now right)16:34
joaopintoyes, it was packaged when it was released, there have been no failure reports until now16:34
sebnerjoaopinto: what did you do about the checksum problem?16:35
joaopintosebner, after reading a svn commit on the debian games team just dropped the changes to default.cfg, I believe it was that, it was c_korn doing the package I think16:36
sebnerjoaopinto: ah I think the main problem is that Debian/Ubuntu package removes the "Upgrade to foox.y" messages and that requires file editing which violates the checksums etc16:37
joaopintooh, the upgrade check16:38
joaopintoI am not that familiar with the package :|16:38
ghostcubesebner: c_korn is the package guru16:38
sebnerghostcube: well "guru" is a really strong word ;)16:39
sistpoty|workif I read it correctly, the problem was(is?) that the compiled binary didn't match the precompiled sources, due to a makefile missing16:39
ghostcubefor me he is :D16:39
ghostcubeiam really weak in packaging16:39
sebnersistpoty|work: yeah something like that + upgrad message16:39
* sistpoty|work didn't read commit mails in detail :P16:39
sorensiretart: Why are we disabling AAlib in mplayer nowadays?16:43
sorensiretart: Argh, because Debian does it.16:45
sorensiretart: bug #45553516:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 455535 in mplayer "AAlib output disabled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45553516:47
sorensiretart: I'm hesitant to just go and fix it. mplayer is a scary package :)16:48
superm1dtchen, yes the init script from ubuntu3 does DTRT too16:55
superm1(just reverted to it to test)16:55
wrapsterim trying to compile libnspr to support 64bit and running into issues.. http://pastie.org/660729 ..Platform is 64bit enabled..17:12
wrapsterIts not purely ubuntu but since its with regard to packaging im raising my query here.. sorry if im wrong..!!17:12
sistpoty|workwrapster: I guess looking at configure.ac/.in for the failing test might be useful17:14
wrapstersistpoty|work: one more doubt.. for compiling this pkg should i first ensure that all the dependecies are in 64bi17:16
wrapsterthen go ahead and try building this.17:16
sistpoty|workwrapster: no idea, really. I assume you need at least the libs it build-depends on in 64 bit, *shrug*17:17
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zookoFolks, have any MOTU been considering trying to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plexus-container-default/+bug/417164 in Karmic?18:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 417164 in maven2 "latest plexus packages breaks Maven" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:03
zookoI try not to use Java, but this does look like a significant problem for a significant fraction of potential Karmic users.18:03
MagicFabI am new to the sync'ing process, specially past feature freeze. I am wondering if anyone could provide information on how likely it is to get a featurefreeze exception for this one:18:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 426402 in monit "New version available in Debian. Upgrade for Karmic?" [Undecided,New]18:04
MagicFabWe've added missing information now. Can anyone take a quick look and tell me if anything else is missing ? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/monit/+bug/42640218:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 426402 in monit "New version available in Debian. Upgrade for Karmic?" [Undecided,New]18:15
zookoMagicFab: I'm not an MOTU, just a random kibitzer, but it looks like the update of monit will go into 10.04.18:16
zooko"Declined for Karmic by Brian Murray18:16
iulianzooko: I believe doko looks after that bug.18:18
iulianMagicFab: Looking.18:18
MagicFabzooko, I am asking Brian if this was just "incomplete ->  declined" or actually "even if complete info was provide -> declined"18:19
james_whe declined the nomination as this presumably isn't a release critical bug18:23
james_wif we can release karmic with the current version without the sky falling then it's not release critical18:24
james_wit doesn't mean that it can't happen for karmic18:24
james_wthe terminology is a tad confusing though18:24
MagicFabright, apparently upstream doesn't know about the process and missed our dates. they release came out just ~10 days after our freezes18:24
iulianMagicFab: OK, as far as I can see there are loads of bugs fixed.  Could you please attach the ChangeLog to the bug report?18:25
MagicFabiulian, a colleague just attached it AFAIK. Do you require the full Debian changelog ?18:26
iulianI'd like the upstream ChangeLog.18:26
iulianAre there any packages that depend on monit?18:27
iulian(I cannot check myself atm)18:28
MagicFabiulian, no reverse depends, no18:28
MagicFabiulian, upstream log is at http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/m/monit/monit_5.0.3-3/changelog - is it ok if I just add that link to the bug report ? (sorry, I've never done this)18:29
james_w^ that's what you need18:30
iulianIndeed, thanks james_w.18:30
MagicFabjames_w, tx.18:30
MagicFabiulian, OK, added all changes since 4.10 to the report.18:32
fabrice_spHi. I've received an email saying that the upload of mandos (a sync request) failed with a "duplicate key value violates unique constraint "person__account__key"" error. What can I do to fix it?18:34
iulianMagicFab: Thanks.  Have you done any testing with it?18:39
MagicFabiulian, personnally no. I am inquiring because we have a 24/7 customer asking for it, presumably they have.18:41
randomactionfabrice_sp: sounds like bug 408528 (AFAIK, as a workaround, it should be reuploaded by a different person)18:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 408528 in soyuz "Packages build but fail to upload due to email address issue" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40852818:41
fabrice_sprandomaction, it's a sync request, so it has been uploaded by an archive admin18:42
fabrice_spshould have been fixed on the 15th...18:44
iulianMagicFab: OK, that's good.18:45
iulianMagicFab: +1 from me.18:45
randomactionfabrice_sp: The error message is mentioned here: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/09/23/%23launchpad.txt18:45
MagicFabiulian, willing & able to test should we have to.18:46
iulianMagicFab: You'll now need a second and final ack from another release member.18:53
iulianI've just subscribed motu-release.18:54
randomactionHow do I enable pkgstriptranslations in pbuilder? Is installing pkgbinarymangler sufficient?19:02
chrisccoulsonrandomaction - i think you need to configure it to strip the translations too (i'm sure it doesn't do it by default)19:03
chrisccoulsoni can't remember off the top of my head though, as it's been a while since i set it up19:03
randomactionchrisccoulson: thanks, I'll try to find and read the docs19:04
chrisccoulsonrandomaction - the settings are in /etc/pkgbinarymangler19:04
chrisccoulsoni think they're quite self-explanatory19:04
randomactiongreat, thanks19:05
quentusrexI need help handling configs19:07
quentusrexI have separated the configs into their own package,19:07
quentusrexbut I need a way to handle when the file has been edited...19:07
quentusrexrather than just replacing the config files on disk.19:07
MagicFabiulian, Thank you.19:13
dpmrandomaction, I think you've probably figured it out, but you can find more info on pkgbinarymangler here as well -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Internationalisation#Verifying translation uploads19:26
randomactiondpm: thanks, maybe the pbuilder instructions page should include a bit about pkgbinarymangler as well (I'm working on a case where a package fails to build and default setup of pbuilder didn't catch it)19:30
dpmgood point. I'll mention it to dholbach tomorrow.19:31
macoya know, he's actually in the channel right now...19:31
dholbachdpm: if anybody wants to add it, add it19:31
dholbachdoesn't need to block on me :)19:32
dpmdholbach, sure, I just wanted to at least let you know, I'll go for it :)19:34
* dholbach hugs dpm19:35
* dpm hugs back19:35
* zooko hugs everyone. Except for the people who didn't want that.19:37
hyperairit depends. what gender are you of? ;-)19:38
schmichaelhi, i'm working on improving the packaging of mongodb and was wondering where to learn about packages that create new system users19:39
schmichaeltried looking at postgres's source package with no luck19:40
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fabrice_spScottK, is your ack in Bug #425640 also valid for 2.41-1? (you gave it for 2.36-1)20:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 425640 in get-iplayer "Please sync get-iplayer 2.41-1 from Debian" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42564020:16
ScottKfabrice_sp: Sure, whatever works20:16
fabrice_spthanks :-)20:16
micahgphpmyadmin requires a new package from debian...20:41
micahgdidn't notice that before20:41
qnixIn debian directory, files "*.files" are deprecated ? It's "*.install" now?20:47
Zhenechbasically yes20:48
Zhenechsyntax is bit different IIRC20:48
qnixI see that the ".dirs" file is in the .install too.20:50
schmichaelcan anyone point me in the right direction to learn about how to make a package create a new user?20:50
micahgScottK: the new phpmyadmin requires a new package to be imported from debian, is it too late?20:50
* schmichael is working on packaging mongodb20:50
Zhenechqnix, .dirs is mostly unneeded anyways, but its not deprecated afaik20:52
qnixZhenech: ok, will remove them anyway20:53
joaopintomicahg, are you concerned about the security vuln on phpmyadmin ?20:56
joaopintoI remember someone was working on it...20:56
micahgwell, it was uploaded20:57
micahgand I was given "credit" for it, but there was a new point release since I requested the sync20:57
micahgdebian modified the package to have a new dependency20:57
micahgand that version was imported20:57
micahgso now the package is broken20:57
joaopintoerm, a sync request without being checked ?20:59
siretartsoren: what's scary about mplayer? - IMO the most scary thing is the fact that it is maintained in git :-)20:59
micahgno, when I made the request it was fine, it was when a newer version than I requested was imported21:00
siretartsoren: regarding aalib, feel free to fix and upload, I can import it then to our packaging branch then21:01
keesmoto-release: hi!  I have policycoreutils waiting for a push -- this fixes a bug pointed out by Tresys.  afaict, it is not seeded on any ISO, so it should be okay to push.21:11
ScottKkees: Bug fix only stuff that's unseeded is good for upload without approval21:26
keesScottK: I've uploaded it -- I figured it just needed a manual push,.21:27
ScottKlooking even21:27
ScottKkees: Accepted21:30
keesScottK: cool, thanks.  I'll have another one in a second (setools, bug 455719)21:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 455719 in setools "lacks module version 10 support" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45571921:33
ScottKOK.  Ping me and I'll accept it21:33
micahgScottK: what can I do about phpmyadmin requiring a new package?21:46
ScottKmicahg: Does the new version fix any critical bugs?21:47
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micahgScottK: someone already uploaded it in my name21:47
micahgit was for a security fix21:47
micahgbut it was a newer version than I originally requested21:48
micahgso now the package is broken21:48
ScottKmicahg: OK.  I guess do an FFe for the new package explaining it.21:48
micahgok, do I use the request sync tool?21:48
ari-tczewubuntu-universe-sponsors: please upload bug-fix package, bug #45574421:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 455744 in tinyproxy "[FFe] New upstream bug-fix release 1.6.5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45574421:49
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ajmitchfrom the look of the phpmyadmin changelog, the new package is one that phpmyadmin was bundling anyway21:51
micahgyeah, they had their own version of the library21:53
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ajmitchI guess requestsync would work, just make sure you put in an explanation & subscribe motu-release21:54
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micahgdoes requestsync send an e-mail?21:58
* micahg figured out how to read a man page :P21:59
micahgScottK: do you need the bug #, or was subscribing motu-release enough?22:10
ScottKSubscribing motu-release is enough22:11
micahgok, thanks ScottK22:11
keesScottK: ping, setools ready for pushing.  thanks!22:17
ScottKkees: Done22:19
keesScottK: cool22:19
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AlanBellHi all23:00
AlanBellI have added a fullscreen mode to gwibber23:00
AlanBellso that it can be used at conferences and suchlike on a projector23:00
AlanBellcan someone point me at some documentation on how I can contribute this feature back?23:01
jcastroAlanBell: is the branch on launchpad?23:02
jcastrothat would be very useful!23:02
jcastro(fullscreen I mean)23:03
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