hads4GB/hr sounds about right. It depends on the source.00:01
puffWell, yeah,I'm sure HD will take more.00:05
wolfspiritdoes anyone know where to find the frequency id of a channel?  I'm trying to add a channel manually since one channel didn't come through on the scan.  I have the xmlid and other info, I just need the frequency00:26
hipitihopJust thought I should mention (the other day I also mentioned that some recording were being missed altogether) this morning I had the Brazilian F1 GP scheduled to be recorded @ 2:45am finishing @ 5:00am and it only recorded last 19 minutes. Recorded details screen said 2:4503:32
hipitihopmythbackend.log shows no recording activity @ 2:45..... only thing I can see is a fair few "Reschedule requested for id -1." every 5 minutes or so, no idea what those are.03:43
hipitihopanyone know what this is about ? "[mpeg2video @ 0x7f501685f820]ac-tex damaged at 26 32"  ...."2009-10-19 00:16:37.587 [mpeg2video @ 0x7f501685f820]Warning MVs not available"03:44
puffEvening, I'm having a bit of a problem with mythbuntu.03:45
puffIt boots up, goes into X, starts booting up mythv, then the screen goes blank.03:45
foxbuntuhipitihop, seems like an encoder failure (i.e. tuner)03:45
puffOh, hey fox, ltns..03:45
foxbuntupuff, blank... or black?03:46
pufffoxbuntu: So I poked around for a bit and finally decided to reinstall from scratch.03:46
foxbuntupuff, ok03:46
puffBlank; the monitor goes into no-video-being-received mode, the poewr button turns orange.  ctrl-alt-shift-f1 brings up a console.03:46
foxbuntupuff, I know I talked to you, but I dont recall for what03:46
puffYou helped me add the 1TB drive.03:46
foxbuntuoh right03:46
puffAn explanation just occurred tome... I shut it down the other night, somehow, I don't recall how (we were running around like madmen getting ready for a party).03:47
puffBut I reember being surprised when the mythtv startup screen reappeared on the monitor before shutting down.03:47
foxbuntupuff, what video card are you using?03:47
puffWhich leads me to suspect maybe it's working just fine, but it's going into video-to-the-TV mode.03:47
puffDangit, I knew this at one point.03:48
puffLemme check dmesg.03:48
puffIt was a fairly decent one a few years ago, came iwth on-board video out.03:48
foxbuntupuff, lspci | grep video03:49
puffI'm mainly using this to play video, right now, still shopping for a cablecard (planning to get the HD Home Run, I think).03:49
puffHm, no output.03:49
foxbuntupuff, actually make that: lspci | grep V03:49
foxbuntupuff, yeah, the HDHR is very nice03:50
puffnvidia nv43 geforce 6600 rev a203:50
foxbuntuah ok03:50
hipitihopanyone know what ""Reschedule requested for id -1." is in mythbackend.log ?03:50
foxbuntupuff, did you select the nvidia driver or the open source driver on install?03:51
puffOne thing, will the HD come with a remote or will I have to get that separately?03:51
puffI'm pretty sure I selected the nvidia driver.03:51
foxbuntuhipitihop, Im not sure, but have you tried googling around for it?03:51
* hipitihop blushes and scrambles off to google03:52
foxbuntuhipitihop, also, asking over and over the same question in IRC is impolite, ask and wait for an answer03:52
foxbuntupuff, sudo lsmod | grep nvidia | pastebinit03:53
hipitihopfoxbuntu: acknowledged. Just wasn't sure if it was lost amongst the main question. sorry.03:53
pufffoxbuntu: So, should I reinstall with the open source driver?03:53
puffnvidia 7233756 3003:53
foxbuntuhipitihop, np, just an FYI, some people will get upset over that kind of thing03:54
puffAnd agpgart 42696 2 nvidia,intel_agp.03:54
foxbuntupuff, oh right, no internet03:54
foxbuntupuff, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep [EE]03:56
puffLotsa text :-).03:56
puffLoooks like it's the NVIDIA TV Encoder.03:57
foxbuntupuff, can you copy/paste it to pastebin?03:57
Zinnwhen pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.03:57
puffNo, still no net on that box.03:57
foxbuntuare you doing this one the console or ssh?03:57
foxbuntupuff, move to ssh03:58
puffCan't get in via ssh through the airgap firewall.03:58
foxbuntuyou dont have another device on the same network?03:58
puffI really need to find that spool of cat5 cable and run a line down here.03:58
puffThe device isn't on a nework at all.03:58
puffThe mythbox is un-networked, until I can find 50' of cat5 cable.03:59
foxbuntuwell without seeing the log I am really unsure what to tell you03:59
puffWhat were you trying to ascertain?03:59
foxbuntupuff, can you move it to a location to get it connection for now?03:59
foxbuntupuff, m really just in discovery mode atm04:00
puffAh, okay.04:00
puffWell one thing I can test without disassembling it and carting it upstairs is just reconnecting the s-video out cable to the TV and seeing if it's sending signal to the TV.04:00
puffIt would shut off video out ot the monitor in that case, right?04:00
hadshipitihop: The error you posted "[mpeg2video @ 0x7f501685f820]ac-tex damaged a" is bad reception or something corrupting the recording04:01
foxbuntupuff, did you select TV out in the install?04:01
puffI'm not sure I remember seeing a screen where you select that.04:02
puffI remember selecting s-video out, though.04:02
foxbuntupuff, its on the same one as the video driver select04:03
foxbuntuthat will do it04:03
foxbuntuyeah, you Xorg is configured to move over to s-vid then04:03
puffYup, that's what it's doing.04:04
puffOkay, so the next step is to make sure it knows about the terabyte drive.04:04
foxbuntuwell then its not an error04:04
puffI was kinda hoping that it would spot the extra drive on bootup and offer to use it as well.04:04
foxbuntuso we need to setup that drive again eh?04:05
foxbuntubye puff04:06
puffI was just about to say, fortunately I have the notes from last week still in my irc client buffer.04:06
puffThen my irc client died :-(.04:06
foxbuntupuff, I suggest BIP for you04:08
foxbuntupuff, thats a story for another day, and frankly might be a good topic for my next blog post04:08
pufffoxbuntu: Now, /etc/fstab shows three UUIDs, one ext3 for / on /dev/sda1, one xfs for /var/lib on /dev/sda6, and one for swap on /dev/sda5.04:08
foxbuntupuff, its an IRC proxy so you are always connected and everything gets logged04:09
foxbuntupuff, you can google it04:09
foxbuntupuff, are the UUIDs all the same?04:10
puffFunny you should mention that... yeah, I have an auto-log. Cool.04:10
puffNo, the UUId ar eall unique.04:10
puffdf -h does not show the 1TB drive, though.04:10
foxbuntuthats fine04:11
foxbuntuthats what I would expect04:11
BlueSteelhey guys, I have a question related to mythtv (since upgrading from intrepid -> jaunty) my combined FE+BE is now pausing during livetv every few minutes, and it has to take another 5-10 seconds to start playing again04:11
pufffdisk -l does show it.04:11
foxbuntupuff, ls /dev/sd*04:11
BlueSteelI think the issue is filesystem/disk related, does anyone know what steps to verify this and fix it?04:11
ZinnMythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.04:11
hadsBlueSteel: ^04:12
BlueSteelok, i'll ssh in and try that04:12
hipitihophads: so is that likely to be just something minor and intermittent ? this is an over the air digital tuner, so occasional audio or signal based glitches are not uncommon04:12
foxbuntupuff, sounds like all we need to do is mount it04:12
BlueSteelyes it's DVB-T, I live in australia04:12
puffGot sda, da1, sda2, sda5, sda6, sdb, sdb1.04:12
puffAdd it to /etc/fstab?04:13
puffAnd mount it?04:13
hipitihophads: I assume it is just reporting that and any activity especially recording, is likely to just continue as normal ?04:13
foxbuntupuff, need to make a spot to mount it04:13
foxbuntupuff, sudo mkdir /mythtv.04:13
foxbuntuno .04:13
puffWhat's a "natural" spot for bulk data to live in mythtv?04:13
hadsNaughty foxbuntu04:13
hadsPut it under /mnt or /srv or something04:14
foxbuntuhads, yes, I personally chose doing this for a reason04:14
foxbuntuhads, I have several drives in each of my machines and use th SGs04:14
puffAny preferences?04:14
foxbuntuhads, so each drive gets mounted into /mythtv/store[n]04:14
hadshipitihop: It should continue as normal I believe04:15
puffokay, created.04:15
puffNow add to /etc/fstab?04:15
foxbuntupuff, yup04:15
hadsfoxbuntu: /srv/mythtv/store[n] or /mnt/ or something. Top level is naughty.04:15
BlueSteeloh btw, the whole system system on my TV box (FE+BE on same box) is ext3, could this be causing issues? many people seem to be running JFS or some other filesystem for their mythtv recordings / temporary recordings04:15
foxbuntuhads, I know...but I like naaaaaughty04:15
puffFrom my log:  /dev/sda1       /mythtv/ ext3    defaults       0       004:15
foxbuntupuff, you got t04:15
foxbuntupuff, actually04:15
hadsMake the last 0 a 2 also04:16
foxbuntuhads, why is that?04:16
* foxbuntu is not 100% with fstab04:16
hadsThat way if it's a dirty filsystem it will get fsck at boot.04:16
puffCool, mounts with no errors.04:16
foxbuntupuff, cool04:17
foxbuntuhads, ah alright04:17
hadsfoxbuntu: / entry should be 1 then all others > 104:17
hadsUnless you want no check then 004:17
puffOkay, so now I have to tell mythtv about the disk, right?04:17
foxbuntuhads, for me, I would want no check...but thats me04:17
foxbuntupuff, yup04:18
foxbuntupuff, mythtv-setup04:18
hadsfoxbuntu: No check is fine, it just means it won't mount if it's dirty.04:18
foxbuntupuff, then its Storage Directories04:18
puffWell, mythtv is already running X on the svideo-out UI.04:18
foxbuntuhads, yeah...I am ok with that for my system...most might not04:18
foxbuntupuff, then use ESC to close out of it04:18
hadsBlueSteel: ext3 is okay, there are other choices but ext still works.04:19
foxbuntupuff, then in the Applications > System > MythTV Backend Setup04:19
hadsfoxbuntu: Yeah, the only problem in some situations if it doesn't mount and the user doesn't notice then a recording can fill up / and make bad things happen.04:19
foxbuntuhads, agreed04:20
foxbuntuhads, I will besure to tell users 2 from now on :)04:20
foxbuntu(or higher)04:20
hadsAnd... no top level weird directories :)04:20
foxbuntuhads, lmao04:20
puffWhoops, I was off mucking with mythtv and didn'tsee what you said.  I ended up opening a terminal in the s-video out screen and running mythtv-setup.   Is tha tokay?04:20
puffThis would be easier if I could use the keyboard while seeing the screen :-).04:21
foxbuntuhads, I will have all users uninstall xfce, install irssi and watching TV matrix style, does that work for you?04:21
puffI really need to rearrange stuff here.04:21
foxbuntupuff, no close them both out then open mythtv-setup back up04:21
puffClose "both"?04:21
foxbuntupuff, from what I read you left mythfrontend open?04:22
puffI exited out of the mythtv UI, but it was still sending X to the Svideo out.04:22
foxbuntuoh ok04:22
foxbuntuthen you are fine04:22
foxbuntumy misread04:22
puffI think at tht point I was on the x desktop.04:22
puffAt least it more or less acted like the X desktop.04:22
foxbuntupuff, well its Xfce on X server04:23
hipitihophey BlueSteel, where are you based ? I'm on Sunshine Coast, QLD ... have you got grabber setup and which are you using ?04:24
puffOkay, so now storage directories, it's listing default, hitatch (the 1TB), create live TV group, create db backup group, create new group.04:24
foxbuntupuff, now you know where it is, here is what I generally do....04:25
foxbuntupuff, I create a directory structure like /mythtv/store0/recordings/  livetv/ db_backups/ ect ect04:25
puffright, create that at the shell or through this menu?04:26
foxbuntupuff, then you just add those paths to the Storage Groups that already exist04:26
puffAre there any storage groups that already exist?  default?04:26
foxbuntupuff, you can add them in there first if you like, but it will complain04:26
foxbuntupuff, default is the recordings04:26
puffSo, a) create the directory structure with mkdir04:26
foxbuntupuff, and *add* it is key so it will use both drives04:27
puffb) select Storage Directories, then [create new group]?04:27
puffI don't see an option labeled add.04:27
foxbuntupuff, edit the existing groups04:27
foxbuntupuff, then you will see an option to add an entry04:28
foxbuntu...inside the existing groups04:28
puffI don't see an edit option.04:28
foxbuntujust highlight and hit enter04:28
puffI have at the top, 1. general 2. capture cards, 3. video sources, 4. input connections, 5. channel editor, 6 storage directories.04:28
foxbuntuhighlight default04:29
foxbuntuht enter on default04:29
puffWhen I select storage directories, I see a title at the top, Storage Groups, then default, hitatchi, create livetv group],04:29
puffAh-hah, /var/lib/mythtvrecordings and (add new directory)04:30
foxbuntuadd new :)04:30
foxbuntuthere you have it figured out04:30
puffSo, 1) create the directories iwth mkdir, 2) add them here..04:30
foxbuntuI know that menu is less than intuitive04:30
puffWhat's store0 about?  Just chunking them up?04:30
foxbuntupuff, no need to actually do that, just habit for me04:30
puffOkayOkay, so just mkdir /mythth/recordings04:31
foxbuntupuff, also: sudo chown mythtv:mythtv -R /mythtv/04:31
puffWhat's db_backups about?04:31
foxbuntupuff, sorry, thats a later version of mythtv04:31
foxbuntupuff, there are many more Storage Groups in the next version of mythtv04:32
foxbuntuonly create the directories need for the groups you already have04:32
puffOkay, added.04:36
foxbuntuthen you should be set04:37
foxbuntuit will handle putting the data where there is free space04:37
puffcreated /mnt/mythtv/recordings, chown -R mythtv.mythtv, went to UI and added new directory.04:37
foxbuntupuff, is your 1TB mounted to /mnt/mythtv ?04:37
puffSo, now I just copy the media files over from the old drive onto the terabyte drive?04:37
puffAnd it's in /etc/fstab so it should automatically mount in the future.04:38
puffYes it's mounted.04:38
foxbuntuI mean what media files?04:38
puffOh, I have a bunch of movies such.04:38
foxbuntuold recordings? dvds/videos/music?04:38
puffmovies and such.04:39
puffWe were using them with a mac mini and a svideo out adapter dongle and vlc.04:39
foxbuntuwell you have a few options04:39
foxbuntugo create a Storage Group (which I suggest)04:39
foxbuntuor just create a directory04:39
puffI created a storage group, I thought.04:39
foxbuntuyou did04:40
foxbuntufor recordings04:40
foxbuntuyou need one for videos04:40
puffSo create another one for directly uploaded media..04:40
foxbuntuso same steps again04:40
foxbuntubut this time create your own SG then add the directory to it04:41
hads0.22 Storate groups are cool.04:41
foxbuntuhads, indeed they are04:41
puffSo, mkdir, chown, then esc back out of default and make a new group, enter that group, add the new directoryd?.04:41
foxbuntuhads, you will be coming all the way to UDS right?04:42
hadsToo far away for me. Where is it this year anyway?04:43
foxbuntuDallas, TX, US04:43
puffOkay, added the new group and added the directory04:43
foxbuntupuff, alright, now you will have to configure that in the mythtv UI04:44
puffOkay, so exit out of myth-tv setup, then run mythtv again?04:45
foxbuntupuff, Utils/Settings > Settings > Media > General04:45
foxbuntupuff, yup04:45
hadsOdd, I've never seen a splitter stop working before.04:47
foxbuntuhads, RG6?04:48
hadsJust a standard splitter with F-Connectors.04:48
hadsSuddenly stopped working.04:49
hadsReplaced it with another and everything is fine.04:49
foxbuntuhads, is it grounded or no?04:49
pufffoxbuntu: Hm, it says "Cannot create a file /mnt/mythtv/videos//.test - directory is not writable?"04:52
puffAnd the same thing for /mnt/mythtv/recordings//.test and then a duplicate error message /mnt/mythtv/videos//test04:53
hadsThat kinda says it all doens't it?04:53
puffAlso, I'm not sure I actually did this, but I noticed that there was a storage diretory under the hitatchi storage group, named /mnt/mythtv/videos04:53
puffhads: Does it?04:53
foxbuntuhads, one thing I have run into is static build up, if you pull the source side out from the wall/ant/whatever and touch the copper to ground it out and plug it back in, it sometime will fix it04:54
puffI edited the directories and saw there were trailing backslashes, deleted them and clicked okay.04:54
karatekickzI borked my mythbuntu box trying to update to .22 can someone help me w a course of action to fix it?04:54
hadsWhatever it is, I'm assuming the backend, can't write to that directory. You need to check the ownership and permissions.04:54
hadsfoxbuntu: This one is broken broken, I've moved it to a different place and tried it there too.04:55
hadskaratekickz: You need to state what borked is.04:55
foxbuntuhads, ah...04:55
puffThey all belong to user mythtv, group mythtv, but they're not group-writable.  I guess I should chmod g+w?04:55
karatekickzI tried to update via a repo that I dont think is compatible with mythbuntu04:56
foxbuntupuff, try this sudo chmod 775 -R /mnt/mythtv04:56
karatekickzso I think I need to do a complete un install re install04:56
puffShould I remove the hitatchi storage group?04:56
hadspuff: If you were following foxbuntu's advice then didn't you put them in /mythtv rather than under /mnt?04:56
hadsOr did that get changed.04:56
foxbuntupuff, naw04:56
puffhads: He suggested /mnt/mythtv04:56
hadsOh okay.04:57
puffOkay, so did chmod -R g+w /mnt/mythtv, now they're all group writable.04:57
puffDo they need to be group executable, too?04:57
karatekickzused these instructions http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/40229404:57
hadskaratekickz: You can uninstall through any of the package managers.04:57
hadsThen fix your sources, update the package lists and reinstall.04:57
karatekickzyeah I know04:58
hadsBeware that if you updated the mythtv version without a database backup then you won't be able to downgrade.04:58
hadsThe only way is up.04:58
karatekickzno worries04:58
karatekickzI figured this was the process...04:58
puffOkay,no complaints this time when exiting, though it wants me to fill the daatabase, etc.04:58
puffAnd now I run myth frontend?04:59
karatekickzso sort the package manager by repos04:59
foxbuntupuff, yup04:59
karatekickzthen uninstall all of them?04:59
karatekickzcould I have added a mythbuntu repos source?04:59
karatekickzI just tried to install the mythbuntu-repos.deb file05:00
puffWait,d o I have to start mythtv backend?05:00
foxbuntupuff, no it does it all on its own05:01
puff Okay.  Utils/Settings/Media/General05:01
puffI'm there.05:02
puffDoes mythtv/ubuntu come with screen capture support?05:02
foxbuntuyou should see the directories for videos and so on05:02
puffE.g. can I run through this again, sometime, and take snapshots for a tutorial?05:02
foxbuntupuff, print screen should do it05:02
puffHm, I think that's under media settings.05:03
karatekickzremoving all packages atm... can I add a testing repo for .22?05:03
puffI selected general and it has a, screen about dataabses, then another one, then about audio... exited back out to the menu that contained general, ait also had media.05:03
foxbuntupuff, there are two settings menus05:03
foxbuntupuff, as in from top menu its Settings > Settings > Media > General05:04
puffUtilities / Setup => Music Tools, Video Manager, Edit Keys, Setup, Mythbuntu Logs05:04
karatekickzoh... looks like I already did w that .deb file05:04
foxbuntupuff, sorry, setup05:04
puffSelect setup => General, Appearance, Screen Setup Wizards, TV settings, Media Settings, Info Center Settings, Mythbuntu.05:05
puffSelect General and i get stuff about database.05:05
puffSelect Media and I get stuff about directories.05:05
foxbuntuthats the one05:05
puffThe second? Media?05:05
foxbuntuIm doing this al off memory since I am using my myth boxen05:05
puffMyth boxen?05:05
* foxbuntu is clear as mud tonight05:06
hadsWhat are you setting up?05:06
puffMedia gives me Music SEttings, Videos Settings, images Settings, Archive Files Settings.05:06
foxbuntuhads, he just needs to setup his videos directory in mythfrontend05:06
puffhads: I added a 1 TB drive to my freshly installed mythbuntu box.05:06
foxbuntupuff, videos settings05:06
hadsIf you're using 0.22 and have setup the mythvideo storage groups that's all you need to do. Or are we talking 0.2105:06
foxbuntuhads .2105:06
puffVideo Settings => General Settings, Player Settings, File Types, Rip Settings.05:07
hadsOh, okay then :)05:07
puffYeesh, maybe I shoulda downlaoded a newer version.05:07
hadsAll this storage groups talk confused me.05:07
foxbuntupuff, General05:07
foxbuntupuff, its not released yet05:07
puffOkay, Directories that hold videos:  /va/lib/mythtv/videos05:08
foxbuntupuff, its safer for you at this point as a newish user05:08
puffDirectories that holds movie posters, Default View.05:08
foxbuntupuff, change the videos one to the directory you created05:08
foxbuntupuff, then you can just dump you videos in there05:08
karatekickzI have everything from the borked repos uninstalled....05:08
karatekickzI have entries for the weeklys... from the .deb I installed mythbunto.org05:09
puffSo will tihs entirely side-step the 250GB drive?05:09
karatekickzbut no listings of packages05:09
karatekickzI didnt reboot yet05:09
foxbuntupuff, yes, for videos05:09
puffOkay, cool.05:10
puffThen it can use the 250 for recordings.05:10
karatekickzailed to fetch http://US.weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu/trunk-0.22/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found05:10
karatekickzSome index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.05:10
puffkaratekickz:  USe a pastebin.05:10
hadsURLs should be lower case.05:10
karatekickzsorry man05:10
foxbuntupuff, 2 lines is ok05:10
puffOkay, so now it should be all good, I just plug in the portable drive and copy my media files across under /mnt/mythtv/videos?05:11
hadskaratekickz: You're using Jaunty?05:11
puffkaratekickz: 's cool, just don't want you to get into trouble.05:11
hadsI'd just upgrade to karmic if it were me.05:11
karatekickzmy thinks05:11
pufffoxbuntu: And will it matter if I the videos I'm copying over are in subdirectories?05:11
foxbuntupuff, nope05:11
pufffoxbuntu: e.g. I'll have /mnt/mythtv/videos/movie1, /mnt/mythtv/videos/movie2, etc?05:12
karatekickzI had no idea btw there was a weekly build thing going on... that would have saved me 3 hours ... now that I borked it doing it from some other repo05:12
puffAnd then they'll just show up in the mythtv Video Manager interface?05:12
foxbuntupuff, yup05:13
hadsIf you're wanting to use 0.22 then karmic will be stable enough for you.05:13
karatekickzso should the repos installer have an icon? or does it do it via the package/update manager?05:13
pufffoxbuntu: Yay!05:13
foxbuntupuff, sounds like you have reached your goal05:14
pufffoxbuntu: Commencing to do some mighty disk-to-disk copying.... back in an hour or two to try it oy and let you know how it's all worked out.05:14
foxbuntupuff, sounds great...gl05:14
karatekickzalright so myth is totally removed my from my mythbuntu ATM05:15
foxbuntukaratekickz, great..now you have a buntu05:15
Casper0082karatekickz:  I had issues using the US.weeklybuilds.  I edited my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list and removed US. from weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org05:15
karatekickzI have repos in my package manager to the .22   can I use that to install myth wo reinstalling .21? installing05:15
karatekickzTY CASPER05:15
Casper0082I was then able to apt-get update05:16
karatekickztrying now05:16
karatekickzthere they are !05:17
karatekickzits one thing after another05:17
karatekickzthey need to fix the .deb file me thinks??>?05:17
Casper0082Not sure.  Might be that the US mirror is down05:17
karatekickzwhen you refreshed were all of the packages preselcted for install for you?05:18
Casper0082Well, since you removed them, you need to manually select them05:19
karatekickzthey appear to be select05:19
Casper0082Oh.  Okay :)05:20
karatekickznow it says I have a broken package05:20
karatekickzmy package isnt broken it just hasnt been tested for awhile! <rimshot>05:20
karatekickzis there any known issues with the nvidia 172 drivers btw?05:24
karatekickzand myth05:24
Casper0082Did you fix your broken package issue?05:26
karatekickzin the process of installing now05:27
karatekickzman I had no clue there was a weekly repo05:28
Casper0082I'm not sure about the nvidia drivers.  Been using 180.05:28
karatekickzthis would have saved me so much time05:28
karatekickzI always have issues with vid drivers... tried to install the 190's from 172 and no dice05:29
karatekickzgonna reboot brb thx for the help so far05:33
karatekickzwell it seems to be working... missing the icons ... and a couple skin graphics though05:39
karatekickzwish I would not have borked it though cause likely I am going to run into problems down the road that are over my n00b head05:40
karatekickzI used to have an icon for a window based configuration program... what is that called again?05:41
Casper0082mythbuntu-control-centre or mythtv-setup?05:45
karatekickzman this should have been so easy05:48
karatekickznow I dont even know where im at05:48
karatekickzany idea why I am missing icons? and a couple skin graphics?05:48
karatekickzjust found the mythbuntu control... and am installing05:49
karatekickzalright cool got that back thx to you... now the only problem is the missing icons and why05:51
Casper0082Not sure what you mean by missing icons05:51
karatekickzsorry my linux lingo is n00b but the icon that represents myth in the launcher05:52
Casper0082Did you try add/remove? :)05:53
karatekickztrying to change now in the main menu.... it has it pointing to some blank .png file mythtv_logo.png05:53
karatekickzcan you check the path of your icon in the Main Menu under preferences?05:55
karatekickzI am using gnome though05:55
karatekickzu prolly are using xfce05:55
karatekickzcould anyone tell me the path of the launcher icons for myth?05:59
karatekickzfigured it out06:01
karatekickzit was using icons from an old .21 theme06:01
karatekickznever updated06:01
karatekickzthis is so weird... when I go to install some .22 themes... it says I need to install the whole app others.. its fine thoughts?06:06
karatekickzuninstall the whole app that is06:07
karatekickzim out for now thx for  the help all!06:19
daniel32708Hello!  Is there another alternative to Schedulesdirect.org... free?07:21
superm1you can use EIT data for some OTA stations07:24
superm1but it's usually only 1-2 days out07:24
superm1schedules direct is fairly inexpensive for a year's service07:24
daniel32708thing is I aint in the US07:25
superm1Canada or elsewhere?07:26
superm1in canada you can still use schedules direct.  elsewhere, xmltv provides data for some areas07:26
daniel32708Costa Rica, Central America07:26
daniel32708ill try xmltv07:27
daniel32708thx man07:29
kaelesok, I upgraded my backend to .22,  its telling me the client only recognizes protocol version 50 and the server uses version 40  in the backend setup... any clue ? I checked the apt-cache policy and the mythtv backend is at version .22 build 2251711:21
kaelesim not sure what client it means, I'm only trying to get into the backend setup11:24
hadsSomething is still old or hasn't been restarted.11:30
kaelesi rebooted the machine, but I seem to be having some issues getting the db update11:40
hadsYou need to run mythtv-setup or mythbackend to do the update.11:41
hadsmythfrontend won't do it11:42
kaeleswhen I run mythtv-setup it breaks11:46
kaelesthats when I get the error about the client version11:47
kaelesi haven't even touched a machine that has a frontend on it yet11:47
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kaelesok, got the db working but the backend setup is only showing options 1. 3. and 5. is mythtv .22 supposed to be missing options in the backend setup?12:16
hipitihopI've noticed occasional errors in mythbackend.log related to deleting certain recordings. "Error deleting '/var/lib/mythtv/recordings/1088_20091014120000.mpg' could not open eno: Permission denied (13)" When I look at those files, the owner is 0 and -rw-r--r-- instead of like others with owenr of 104 and -rw-rw-rw. Anyone know what causes those files to have wrong owner/permissions ?13:00
tmktmythexport expert here today?14:18
rhpot1991tmkt: yepper14:18
rhpot1991I forget where we left off so you will have to remind me what you were checking last14:19
tmktso put debug on14:20
tmktand it can't seem to find the proper executable14:20
rhpot1991tmkt: is that all from the same log, or multiple logs?14:22
tmktmytbackend..and mythexport14:22
rhpot1991tmkt: ok can you modify it and put what came from where14:22
rhpot1991and then pastebin your /etc/mythtv/mythexport configs14:23
tmktsure thing14:23
rhpot1991also I have a meeting in a few so I'll ping you when I'm back14:23
TimReichhartnow if I install mythbuntu can I still play videos lets say I download one off the net can I still play it on mythbuntu20:17
gandalfcomewhat window manager does mythbuntu use.21:03
gandalfcomeIt seems to be the xfce one but I have trouble finding the network plugin21:18
superm1gandalfcome, in the taskbar network manager is running21:28
gandalfcomesuperm1: thanks21:37
P0luxDoes somebody know if there is a project to do a "Emuzed Angel USB TV Tuner" driver for mythbuntu ?22:22
mrandP0lux: I've gotta run, but I don't think so.  Nor in the Linux community at large.22:31
P0luxok, and is it a place where I can make the suggestion ?22:31
P0luxI think I'm just gonna buy one compatible22:36
P0luxthank you !22:36
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