[00:01] 4GB/hr sounds about right. It depends on the source. [00:05] Well, yeah,I'm sure HD will take more. [00:26] does anyone know where to find the frequency id of a channel? I'm trying to add a channel manually since one channel didn't come through on the scan. I have the xmlid and other info, I just need the frequency [03:32] Just thought I should mention (the other day I also mentioned that some recording were being missed altogether) this morning I had the Brazilian F1 GP scheduled to be recorded @ 2:45am finishing @ 5:00am and it only recorded last 19 minutes. Recorded details screen said 2:45 [03:43] mythbackend.log shows no recording activity @ 2:45..... only thing I can see is a fair few "Reschedule requested for id -1." every 5 minutes or so, no idea what those are. [03:44] anyone know what this is about ? "[mpeg2video @ 0x7f501685f820]ac-tex damaged at 26 32" ...."2009-10-19 00:16:37.587 [mpeg2video @ 0x7f501685f820]Warning MVs not available" [03:45] Evening, I'm having a bit of a problem with mythbuntu. [03:45] It boots up, goes into X, starts booting up mythv, then the screen goes blank. [03:45] hipitihop, seems like an encoder failure (i.e. tuner) [03:45] Oh, hey fox, ltns.. [03:46] puff, blank... or black? [03:46] foxbuntu: So I poked around for a bit and finally decided to reinstall from scratch. [03:46] puff, ok [03:46] Blank; the monitor goes into no-video-being-received mode, the poewr button turns orange. ctrl-alt-shift-f1 brings up a console. [03:46] puff, I know I talked to you, but I dont recall for what [03:46] You helped me add the 1TB drive. [03:46] oh right [03:46] ok [03:47] An explanation just occurred tome... I shut it down the other night, somehow, I don't recall how (we were running around like madmen getting ready for a party). [03:47] But I reember being surprised when the mythtv startup screen reappeared on the monitor before shutting down. [03:47] puff, what video card are you using? [03:47] Which leads me to suspect maybe it's working just fine, but it's going into video-to-the-TV mode. [03:48] Dangit, I knew this at one point. [03:48] Lemme check dmesg. [03:48] It was a fairly decent one a few years ago, came iwth on-board video out. [03:49] puff, lspci | grep video [03:49] I'm mainly using this to play video, right now, still shopping for a cablecard (planning to get the HD Home Run, I think). [03:49] Hm, no output. [03:49] puff, actually make that: lspci | grep V [03:50] puff, yeah, the HDHR is very nice [03:50] nvidia nv43 geforce 6600 rev a2 [03:50] ah ok [03:50] anyone know what ""Reschedule requested for id -1." is in mythbackend.log ? [03:51] puff, did you select the nvidia driver or the open source driver on install? [03:51] One thing, will the HD come with a remote or will I have to get that separately? [03:51] I'm pretty sure I selected the nvidia driver. [03:51] hipitihop, Im not sure, but have you tried googling around for it? [03:52] * hipitihop blushes and scrambles off to google [03:52] hipitihop, also, asking over and over the same question in IRC is impolite, ask and wait for an answer [03:53] puff, sudo lsmod | grep nvidia | pastebinit [03:53] foxbuntu: acknowledged. Just wasn't sure if it was lost amongst the main question. sorry. [03:53] foxbuntu: So, should I reinstall with the open source driver? [03:53] nvidia 7233756 30 [03:54] hipitihop, np, just an FYI, some people will get upset over that kind of thing [03:54] And agpgart 42696 2 nvidia,intel_agp. [03:54] puff, oh right, no internet [03:56] puff, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep [EE] [03:56] Lotsa text :-). [03:57] Loooks like it's the NVIDIA TV Encoder. [03:57] puff, can you copy/paste it to pastebin? [03:57] !pastebin [03:57] when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel. Then please post the link in the channel. [03:57] No, still no net on that box. [03:57] are you doing this one the console or ssh? [03:57] on* [03:58] console. [03:58] puff, move to ssh [03:58] Can't get in via ssh through the airgap firewall. [03:58] you dont have another device on the same network? [03:58] I really need to find that spool of cat5 cable and run a line down here. [03:58] The device isn't on a nework at all. [03:59] oh [03:59] The mythbox is un-networked, until I can find 50' of cat5 cable. [03:59] well without seeing the log I am really unsure what to tell you [03:59] What were you trying to ascertain? [03:59] puff, can you move it to a location to get it connection for now? [04:00] puff, m really just in discovery mode atm [04:00] Ah, okay. [04:00] Well one thing I can test without disassembling it and carting it upstairs is just reconnecting the s-video out cable to the TV and seeing if it's sending signal to the TV. [04:00] It would shut off video out ot the monitor in that case, right? [04:01] shoul [04:01] d [04:01] hipitihop: The error you posted "[mpeg2video @ 0x7f501685f820]ac-tex damaged a" is bad reception or something corrupting the recording [04:01] puff, did you select TV out in the install? [04:02] I'm not sure I remember seeing a screen where you select that. [04:02] I remember selecting s-video out, though. [04:03] puff, its on the same one as the video driver select [04:03] ah [04:03] that will do it [04:03] yeah, you Xorg is configured to move over to s-vid then [04:04] Yup, that's what it's doing. [04:04] ah [04:04] Okay, so the next step is to make sure it knows about the terabyte drive. [04:04] well then its not an error [04:04] ok [04:04] I was kinda hoping that it would spot the extra drive on bootup and offer to use it as well. [04:05] neg [04:05] so we need to setup that drive again eh? [04:06] bye puff [04:06] ;) [04:06] Dangit [04:06] I was just about to say, fortunately I have the notes from last week still in my irc client buffer. [04:06] Then my irc client died :-(. [04:08] whoops [04:08] puff, I suggest BIP for you [04:08] puff, thats a story for another day, and frankly might be a good topic for my next blog post [04:08] foxbuntu: Now, /etc/fstab shows three UUIDs, one ext3 for / on /dev/sda1, one xfs for /var/lib on /dev/sda6, and one for swap on /dev/sda5. [04:09] BIP? [04:09] puff, its an IRC proxy so you are always connected and everything gets logged [04:09] puff, you can google it [04:09] hm. [04:10] puff, are the UUIDs all the same? [04:10] Funny you should mention that... yeah, I have an auto-log. Cool. [04:10] No, the UUId ar eall unique. [04:10] ok [04:10] df -h does not show the 1TB drive, though. [04:10] ok [04:11] thats fine [04:11] thats what I would expect [04:11] hey guys, I have a question related to mythtv (since upgrading from intrepid -> jaunty) my combined FE+BE is now pausing during livetv every few minutes, and it has to take another 5-10 seconds to start playing again [04:11] fdisk -l does show it. [04:11] puff, ls /dev/sd* [04:11] I think the issue is filesystem/disk related, does anyone know what steps to verify this and fix it? [04:11] !logs [04:11] MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/ You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin. [04:12] BlueSteel: ^ [04:12] ok, i'll ssh in and try that [04:12] hads: so is that likely to be just something minor and intermittent ? this is an over the air digital tuner, so occasional audio or signal based glitches are not uncommon [04:12] correct [04:12] puff, sounds like all we need to do is mount it [04:12] yes it's DVB-T, I live in australia [04:12] Got sda, da1, sda2, sda5, sda6, sdb, sdb1. [04:13] Add it to /etc/fstab? [04:13] And mount it? [04:13] hads: I assume it is just reporting that and any activity especially recording, is likely to just continue as normal ? [04:13] puff, need to make a spot to mount it [04:13] puff, sudo mkdir /mythtv. [04:13] whoops [04:13] no . [04:13] What's a "natural" spot for bulk data to live in mythtv? [04:13] Naughty foxbuntu [04:14] Put it under /mnt or /srv or something [04:14] hads, yes, I personally chose doing this for a reason [04:14] hads, I have several drives in each of my machines and use th SGs [04:14] Any preferences? [04:14] hads, so each drive gets mounted into /mythtv/store[n] [04:15] hipitihop: It should continue as normal I believe [04:15] okay, created. [04:15] Now add to /etc/fstab? [04:15] puff, yup [04:15] foxbuntu: /srv/mythtv/store[n] or /mnt/ or something. Top level is naughty. [04:15] oh btw, the whole system system on my TV box (FE+BE on same box) is ext3, could this be causing issues? many people seem to be running JFS or some other filesystem for their mythtv recordings / temporary recordings [04:15] hads, I know...but I like naaaaaughty [04:15] From my log: /dev/sda1 /mythtv/ ext3 defaults 0 0 [04:15] puff, you got t [04:15] puff, actually [04:16] /dev/sdb1* [04:16] Make the last 0 a 2 also [04:16] hads, why is that? [04:16] * foxbuntu is not 100% with fstab [04:16] That way if it's a dirty filsystem it will get fsck at boot. [04:16] Cool, mounts with no errors. [04:17] puff, cool [04:17] hads, ah alright [04:17] foxbuntu: / entry should be 1 then all others > 1 [04:17] Unless you want no check then 0 [04:17] Okay, so now I have to tell mythtv about the disk, right? [04:17] hads, for me, I would want no check...but thats me [04:18] puff, yup [04:18] puff, mythtv-setup [04:18] foxbuntu: No check is fine, it just means it won't mount if it's dirty. [04:18] puff, then its Storage Directories [04:18] Well, mythtv is already running X on the svideo-out UI. [04:18] hads, yeah...I am ok with that for my system...most might not [04:18] puff, then use ESC to close out of it [04:19] BlueSteel: ext3 is okay, there are other choices but ext still works. [04:19] puff, then in the Applications > System > MythTV Backend Setup [04:19] foxbuntu: Yeah, the only problem in some situations if it doesn't mount and the user doesn't notice then a recording can fill up / and make bad things happen. [04:20] hads, agreed [04:20] hads, I will besure to tell users 2 from now on :) [04:20] (or higher) [04:20] And... no top level weird directories :) [04:20] hads, lmao [04:20] Whoops, I was off mucking with mythtv and didn'tsee what you said. I ended up opening a terminal in the s-video out screen and running mythtv-setup. Is tha tokay? [04:21] This would be easier if I could use the keyboard while seeing the screen :-). [04:21] hads, I will have all users uninstall xfce, install irssi and watching TV matrix style, does that work for you? [04:21] I really need to rearrange stuff here. [04:21] lol [04:21] puff, no close them both out then open mythtv-setup back up [04:21] Close "both"? [04:22] puff, from what I read you left mythfrontend open? [04:22] I exited out of the mythtv UI, but it was still sending X to the Svideo out. [04:22] oh ok [04:22] then you are fine [04:22] my misread [04:22] I think at tht point I was on the x desktop. [04:22] At least it more or less acted like the X desktop. [04:23] puff, well its Xfce on X server [04:24] hey BlueSteel, where are you based ? I'm on Sunshine Coast, QLD ... have you got grabber setup and which are you using ? [04:24] Okay, so now storage directories, it's listing default, hitatch (the 1TB), create live TV group, create db backup group, create new group. [04:25] puff, now you know where it is, here is what I generally do.... [04:25] puff, I create a directory structure like /mythtv/store0/recordings/ livetv/ db_backups/ ect ect [04:26] right, create that at the shell or through this menu? [04:26] puff, then you just add those paths to the Storage Groups that already exist [04:26] Are there any storage groups that already exist? default? [04:26] puff, you can add them in there first if you like, but it will complain [04:26] puff, default is the recordings [04:26] So, a) create the directory structure with mkdir [04:27] puff, and *add* it is key so it will use both drives [04:27] b) select Storage Directories, then [create new group]? [04:27] I don't see an option labeled add. [04:27] puff, edit the existing groups [04:28] puff, then you will see an option to add an entry [04:28] ...inside the existing groups [04:28] I don't see an edit option. [04:28] just highlight and hit enter [04:28] I have at the top, 1. general 2. capture cards, 3. video sources, 4. input connections, 5. channel editor, 6 storage directories. [04:29] 6 [04:29] highlight default [04:29] ht enter on default [04:29] When I select storage directories, I see a title at the top, Storage Groups, then default, hitatchi, create livetv group], [04:29] Okw7. [04:30] Ah-hah, /var/lib/mythtvrecordings and (add new directory) [04:30] add new :) [04:30] there you have it figured out [04:30] So, 1) create the directories iwth mkdir, 2) add them here.. [04:30] I know that menu is less than intuitive [04:30] What's store0 about? Just chunking them up? [04:30] puff, no need to actually do that, just habit for me [04:31] OkayOkay, so just mkdir /mythth/recordings [04:31] puff, also: sudo chown mythtv:mythtv -R /mythtv/ [04:31] What's db_backups about? [04:31] puff, sorry, thats a later version of mythtv [04:32] puff, there are many more Storage Groups in the next version of mythtv [04:32] only create the directories need for the groups you already have [04:33] Okay. [04:36] Okay, added. [04:36] ok [04:37] then you should be set [04:37] it will handle putting the data where there is free space [04:37] created /mnt/mythtv/recordings, chown -R mythtv.mythtv, went to UI and added new directory. [04:37] puff, is your 1TB mounted to /mnt/mythtv ? [04:37] So, now I just copy the media files over from the old drive onto the terabyte drive? [04:37] Yes. [04:38] ok [04:38] what? [04:38] And it's in /etc/fstab so it should automatically mount in the future. [04:38] Yes it's mounted. [04:38] I mean what media files? [04:38] Oh, I have a bunch of movies such. [04:38] old recordings? dvds/videos/music? [04:38] oh [04:39] movies and such. [04:39] We were using them with a mac mini and a svideo out adapter dongle and vlc. [04:39] well you have a few options [04:39] go create a Storage Group (which I suggest) [04:39] or just create a directory [04:39] I created a storage group, I thought. [04:40] you did [04:40] for recordings [04:40] Ah. [04:40] you need one for videos [04:40] So create another one for directly uploaded media.. [04:40] Okay. [04:40] so same steps again [04:41] but this time create your own SG then add the directory to it [04:41] 0.22 Storate groups are cool. [04:41] hads, indeed they are [04:41] So, mkdir, chown, then esc back out of default and make a new group, enter that group, add the new directoryd?. [04:42] yup [04:42] hads, you will be coming all the way to UDS right? [04:43] ;) [04:43] Too far away for me. Where is it this year anyway? [04:43] Dallas, TX, US [04:43] Okay, added the new group and added the directory [04:44] puff, alright, now you will have to configure that in the mythtv UI [04:45] Okay, so exit out of myth-tv setup, then run mythtv again? [04:45] puff, Utils/Settings > Settings > Media > General [04:45] puff, yup [04:47] Odd, I've never seen a splitter stop working before. [04:48] hads, RG6? [04:48] Just a standard splitter with F-Connectors. [04:49] Suddenly stopped working. [04:49] Replaced it with another and everything is fine. [04:49] hads, is it grounded or no? [04:49] Na [04:52] foxbuntu: Hm, it says "Cannot create a file /mnt/mythtv/videos//.test - directory is not writable?" [04:53] And the same thing for /mnt/mythtv/recordings//.test and then a duplicate error message /mnt/mythtv/videos//test [04:53] That kinda says it all doens't it? [04:53] Also, I'm not sure I actually did this, but I noticed that there was a storage diretory under the hitatchi storage group, named /mnt/mythtv/videos [04:53] hads: Does it? [04:54] hads, one thing I have run into is static build up, if you pull the source side out from the wall/ant/whatever and touch the copper to ground it out and plug it back in, it sometime will fix it [04:54] I edited the directories and saw there were trailing backslashes, deleted them and clicked okay. [04:54] I borked my mythbuntu box trying to update to .22 can someone help me w a course of action to fix it? [04:54] Whatever it is, I'm assuming the backend, can't write to that directory. You need to check the ownership and permissions. [04:55] foxbuntu: This one is broken broken, I've moved it to a different place and tried it there too. [04:55] karatekickz: You need to state what borked is. [04:55] hads, ah... [04:55] They all belong to user mythtv, group mythtv, but they're not group-writable. I guess I should chmod g+w? [04:56] I tried to update via a repo that I dont think is compatible with mythbuntu [04:56] puff, try this sudo chmod 775 -R /mnt/mythtv [04:56] so I think I need to do a complete un install re install [04:56] Should I remove the hitatchi storage group? [04:56] puff: If you were following foxbuntu's advice then didn't you put them in /mythtv rather than under /mnt? [04:56] Or did that get changed. [04:56] puff, naw [04:56] hads: He suggested /mnt/mythtv [04:57] Oh okay. [04:57] Okay, so did chmod -R g+w /mnt/mythtv, now they're all group writable. [04:57] Do they need to be group executable, too? [04:57] used these instructions http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/402294 [04:57] karatekickz: You can uninstall through any of the package managers. [04:57] Then fix your sources, update the package lists and reinstall. [04:58] yeah I know [04:58] Beware that if you updated the mythtv version without a database backup then you won't be able to downgrade. [04:58] The only way is up. [04:58] no worries [04:58] I figured this was the process... [04:58] Okay,no complaints this time when exiting, though it wants me to fill the daatabase, etc. [04:59] And now I run myth frontend? [04:59] so sort the package manager by repos [04:59] puff, yup [04:59] then uninstall all of them? [04:59] could I have added a mythbuntu repos source? [05:00] I just tried to install the mythbuntu-repos.deb file [05:00] Wait,d o I have to start mythtv backend? [05:01] puff, no it does it all on its own [05:01] Okay. Utils/Settings/Media/General [05:02] yup [05:02] I'm there. [05:02] Does mythtv/ubuntu come with screen capture support? [05:02] you should see the directories for videos and so on [05:02] E.g. can I run through this again, sometime, and take snapshots for a tutorial? [05:02] puff, print screen should do it [05:03] Hm, I think that's under media settings. [05:03] removing all packages atm... can I add a testing repo for .22? [05:03] I selected general and it has a, screen about dataabses, then another one, then about audio... exited back out to the menu that contained general, ait also had media. [05:03] puff, there are two settings menus [05:04] puff, as in from top menu its Settings > Settings > Media > General [05:04] Utilities / Setup => Music Tools, Video Manager, Edit Keys, Setup, Mythbuntu Logs [05:04] oh... looks like I already did w that .deb file [05:04] puff, sorry, setup [05:05] Select setup => General, Appearance, Screen Setup Wizards, TV settings, Media Settings, Info Center Settings, Mythbuntu. [05:05] Select General and i get stuff about database. [05:05] Select Media and I get stuff about directories. [05:05] thats the one [05:05] The second? Media? [05:05] Im doing this al off memory since I am using my myth boxen [05:05] yes [05:05] Myth boxen? [05:06] * foxbuntu is clear as mud tonight [05:06] What are you setting up? [05:06] Media gives me Music SEttings, Videos Settings, images Settings, Archive Files Settings. [05:06] hads, he just needs to setup his videos directory in mythfrontend [05:06] hads: I added a 1 TB drive to my freshly installed mythbuntu box. [05:06] puff, videos settings [05:06] If you're using 0.22 and have setup the mythvideo storage groups that's all you need to do. Or are we talking 0.21 [05:06] hads .21 [05:07] Video Settings => General Settings, Player Settings, File Types, Rip Settings. [05:07] Oh, okay then :) [05:07] Yeesh, maybe I shoulda downlaoded a newer version. [05:07] All this storage groups talk confused me. [05:07] puff, General [05:07] puff, its not released yet [05:08] Okay, Directories that hold videos: /va/lib/mythtv/videos [05:08] puff, its safer for you at this point as a newish user [05:08] Directories that holds movie posters, Default View. [05:08] puff, change the videos one to the directory you created [05:08] puff, then you can just dump you videos in there [05:08] I have everything from the borked repos uninstalled.... [05:09] I have entries for the weeklys... from the .deb I installed mythbunto.org [05:09] So will tihs entirely side-step the 250GB drive? [05:09] but no listings of packages [05:09] I didnt reboot yet [05:09] puff, yes, for videos [05:10] Okay, cool. [05:10] Then it can use the 250 for recordings. [05:10] ailed to fetch http://US.weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu/trunk-0.22/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found [05:10] Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. [05:10] thoughts? [05:10] karatekickz: USe a pastebin. [05:10] http://pastebin.com [05:10] URLs should be lower case. [05:10] sorry man [05:10] puff, 2 lines is ok [05:11] Okay, so now it should be all good, I just plug in the portable drive and copy my media files across under /mnt/mythtv/videos? [05:11] karatekickz: You're using Jaunty? [05:11] karatekickz: 's cool, just don't want you to get into trouble. [05:11] I'd just upgrade to karmic if it were me. [05:11] my thinks [05:11] foxbuntu: And will it matter if I the videos I'm copying over are in subdirectories? [05:11] puff, nope [05:12] foxbuntu: e.g. I'll have /mnt/mythtv/videos/movie1, /mnt/mythtv/videos/movie2, etc? [05:12] I had no idea btw there was a weekly build thing going on... that would have saved me 3 hours ... now that I borked it doing it from some other repo [05:12] GROAN [05:12] And then they'll just show up in the mythtv Video Manager interface? [05:13] puff, yup [05:13] If you're wanting to use 0.22 then karmic will be stable enough for you. [05:13] so should the repos installer have an icon? or does it do it via the package/update manager? [05:13] foxbuntu: Yay! [05:14] puff, sounds like you have reached your goal [05:14] foxbuntu: Commencing to do some mighty disk-to-disk copying.... back in an hour or two to try it oy and let you know how it's all worked out. [05:14] puff, sounds great...gl [05:15] alright so myth is totally removed my from my mythbuntu ATM [05:15] karatekickz, great..now you have a buntu [05:15] karatekickz: I had issues using the US.weeklybuilds. I edited my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list and removed US. from weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org [05:15] I have repos in my package manager to the .22 can I use that to install myth wo reinstalling .21? installing [05:15] TY CASPER [05:16] I was then able to apt-get update [05:16] np. [05:16] BOOYAH! [05:16] trying now [05:17] there they are ! [05:17]