[00:01] <hads> 4GB/hr sounds about right. It depends on the source.
[00:05] <puff> Well, yeah,I'm sure HD will take more.
[00:26] <wolfspirit> does anyone know where to find the frequency id of a channel?  I'm trying to add a channel manually since one channel didn't come through on the scan.  I have the xmlid and other info, I just need the frequency
[03:32] <hipitihop> Just thought I should mention (the other day I also mentioned that some recording were being missed altogether) this morning I had the Brazilian F1 GP scheduled to be recorded @ 2:45am finishing @ 5:00am and it only recorded last 19 minutes. Recorded details screen said 2:45
[03:43] <hipitihop> mythbackend.log shows no recording activity @ 2:45..... only thing I can see is a fair few "Reschedule requested for id -1." every 5 minutes or so, no idea what those are.
[03:44] <hipitihop> anyone know what this is about ? "[mpeg2video @ 0x7f501685f820]ac-tex damaged at 26 32"  ...."2009-10-19 00:16:37.587 [mpeg2video @ 0x7f501685f820]Warning MVs not available"
[03:45] <puff> Evening, I'm having a bit of a problem with mythbuntu.
[03:45] <puff> It boots up, goes into X, starts booting up mythv, then the screen goes blank.
[03:45] <foxbuntu> hipitihop, seems like an encoder failure (i.e. tuner)
[03:45] <puff> Oh, hey fox, ltns..
[03:46] <foxbuntu> puff, blank... or black?
[03:46] <puff> foxbuntu: So I poked around for a bit and finally decided to reinstall from scratch.
[03:46] <foxbuntu> puff, ok
[03:46] <puff> Blank; the monitor goes into no-video-being-received mode, the poewr button turns orange.  ctrl-alt-shift-f1 brings up a console.
[03:46] <foxbuntu> puff, I know I talked to you, but I dont recall for what
[03:46] <puff> You helped me add the 1TB drive.
[03:46] <foxbuntu> oh right
[03:46] <foxbuntu> ok
[03:47] <puff> An explanation just occurred tome... I shut it down the other night, somehow, I don't recall how (we were running around like madmen getting ready for a party).
[03:47] <puff> But I reember being surprised when the mythtv startup screen reappeared on the monitor before shutting down.
[03:47] <foxbuntu> puff, what video card are you using?
[03:47] <puff> Which leads me to suspect maybe it's working just fine, but it's going into video-to-the-TV mode.
[03:48] <puff> Dangit, I knew this at one point.
[03:48] <puff> Lemme check dmesg.
[03:48] <puff> It was a fairly decent one a few years ago, came iwth on-board video out.
[03:49] <foxbuntu> puff, lspci | grep video
[03:49] <puff> I'm mainly using this to play video, right now, still shopping for a cablecard (planning to get the HD Home Run, I think).
[03:49] <puff> Hm, no output.
[03:49] <foxbuntu> puff, actually make that: lspci | grep V
[03:50] <foxbuntu> puff, yeah, the HDHR is very nice
[03:50] <puff> nvidia nv43 geforce 6600 rev a2
[03:50] <foxbuntu> ah ok
[03:50] <hipitihop> anyone know what ""Reschedule requested for id -1." is in mythbackend.log ?
[03:51] <foxbuntu> puff, did you select the nvidia driver or the open source driver on install?
[03:51] <puff> One thing, will the HD come with a remote or will I have to get that separately?
[03:51] <puff> I'm pretty sure I selected the nvidia driver.
[03:51] <foxbuntu> hipitihop, Im not sure, but have you tried googling around for it?
[03:52]  * hipitihop blushes and scrambles off to google
[03:52] <foxbuntu> hipitihop, also, asking over and over the same question in IRC is impolite, ask and wait for an answer
[03:53] <foxbuntu> puff, sudo lsmod | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[03:53] <hipitihop> foxbuntu: acknowledged. Just wasn't sure if it was lost amongst the main question. sorry.
[03:53] <puff> foxbuntu: So, should I reinstall with the open source driver?
[03:53] <puff> nvidia 7233756 30
[03:54] <foxbuntu> hipitihop, np, just an FYI, some people will get upset over that kind of thing
[03:54] <puff> And agpgart 42696 2 nvidia,intel_agp.
[03:54] <foxbuntu> puff, oh right, no internet
[03:56] <foxbuntu> puff, cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep [EE]
[03:56] <puff> Lotsa text :-).
[03:57] <puff> Loooks like it's the NVIDIA TV Encoder.
[03:57] <foxbuntu> puff, can you copy/paste it to pastebin?
[03:57] <foxbuntu> !pastebin
[03:57] <Zinn> when pasting more than 5 lines of data please use http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com so you don't flood the channel.  Then please post the link in the channel.
[03:57] <puff> No, still no net on that box.
[03:57] <foxbuntu> are you doing this one the console or ssh?
[03:57] <foxbuntu> on*
[03:58] <puff> console.
[03:58] <foxbuntu> puff, move to ssh
[03:58] <puff> Can't get in via ssh through the airgap firewall.
[03:58] <foxbuntu> you dont have another device on the same network?
[03:58] <puff> I really need to find that spool of cat5 cable and run a line down here.
[03:58] <puff> The device isn't on a nework at all.
[03:59] <foxbuntu> oh
[03:59] <puff> The mythbox is un-networked, until I can find 50' of cat5 cable.
[03:59] <foxbuntu> well without seeing the log I am really unsure what to tell you
[03:59] <puff> What were you trying to ascertain?
[03:59] <foxbuntu> puff, can you move it to a location to get it connection for now?
[04:00] <foxbuntu> puff, m really just in discovery mode atm
[04:00] <puff> Ah, okay.
[04:00] <puff> Well one thing I can test without disassembling it and carting it upstairs is just reconnecting the s-video out cable to the TV and seeing if it's sending signal to the TV.
[04:00] <puff> It would shut off video out ot the monitor in that case, right?
[04:01] <foxbuntu> shoul
[04:01] <foxbuntu> d
[04:01] <hads> hipitihop: The error you posted "[mpeg2video @ 0x7f501685f820]ac-tex damaged a" is bad reception or something corrupting the recording
[04:01] <foxbuntu> puff, did you select TV out in the install?
[04:02] <puff> I'm not sure I remember seeing a screen where you select that.
[04:02] <puff> I remember selecting s-video out, though.
[04:03] <foxbuntu> puff, its on the same one as the video driver select
[04:03] <foxbuntu> ah
[04:03] <foxbuntu> that will do it
[04:03] <foxbuntu> yeah, you Xorg is configured to move over to s-vid then
[04:04] <puff> Yup, that's what it's doing.
[04:04] <foxbuntu> ah
[04:04] <puff> Okay, so the next step is to make sure it knows about the terabyte drive.
[04:04] <foxbuntu> well then its not an error
[04:04] <foxbuntu> ok
[04:04] <puff> I was kinda hoping that it would spot the extra drive on bootup and offer to use it as well.
[04:05] <foxbuntu> neg
[04:05] <foxbuntu> so we need to setup that drive again eh?
[04:06] <foxbuntu> bye puff
[04:06] <foxbuntu> ;)
[04:06] <puff> Dangit
[04:06] <puff> I was just about to say, fortunately I have the notes from last week still in my irc client buffer.
[04:06] <puff> Then my irc client died :-(.
[04:08] <foxbuntu> whoops
[04:08] <foxbuntu> puff, I suggest BIP for you
[04:08] <foxbuntu> puff, thats a story for another day, and frankly might be a good topic for my next blog post
[04:08] <puff> foxbuntu: Now, /etc/fstab shows three UUIDs, one ext3 for / on /dev/sda1, one xfs for /var/lib on /dev/sda6, and one for swap on /dev/sda5.
[04:09] <puff> BIP?
[04:09] <foxbuntu> puff, its an IRC proxy so you are always connected and everything gets logged
[04:09] <foxbuntu> puff, you can google it
[04:09] <puff> hm.
[04:10] <foxbuntu> puff, are the UUIDs all the same?
[04:10] <puff> Funny you should mention that... yeah, I have an auto-log. Cool.
[04:10] <puff> No, the UUId ar eall unique.
[04:10] <foxbuntu> ok
[04:10] <puff> df -h does not show the 1TB drive, though.
[04:10] <foxbuntu> ok
[04:11] <foxbuntu> thats fine
[04:11] <foxbuntu> thats what I would expect
[04:11] <BlueSteel> hey guys, I have a question related to mythtv (since upgrading from intrepid -> jaunty) my combined FE+BE is now pausing during livetv every few minutes, and it has to take another 5-10 seconds to start playing again
[04:11] <puff> fdisk -l does show it.
[04:11] <foxbuntu> puff, ls /dev/sd*
[04:11] <BlueSteel> I think the issue is filesystem/disk related, does anyone know what steps to verify this and fix it?
[04:11] <hads> !logs
[04:11] <Zinn> MythTV logs are stored in /var/log/mythtv/   You can use mythbuntu-log-grabber from the Applications menu to automatically post the most relevant logs to our pastebin.
[04:12] <hads> BlueSteel: ^
[04:12] <BlueSteel> ok, i'll ssh in and try that
[04:12] <hipitihop> hads: so is that likely to be just something minor and intermittent ? this is an over the air digital tuner, so occasional audio or signal based glitches are not uncommon
[04:12] <hads> correct
[04:12] <foxbuntu> puff, sounds like all we need to do is mount it
[04:12] <BlueSteel> yes it's DVB-T, I live in australia
[04:12] <puff> Got sda, da1, sda2, sda5, sda6, sdb, sdb1.
[04:13] <puff> Add it to /etc/fstab?
[04:13] <puff> And mount it?
[04:13] <hipitihop> hads: I assume it is just reporting that and any activity especially recording, is likely to just continue as normal ?
[04:13] <foxbuntu> puff, need to make a spot to mount it
[04:13] <foxbuntu> puff, sudo mkdir /mythtv.
[04:13] <foxbuntu> whoops
[04:13] <foxbuntu> no .
[04:13] <puff> What's a "natural" spot for bulk data to live in mythtv?
[04:13] <hads> Naughty foxbuntu
[04:14] <hads> Put it under /mnt or /srv or something
[04:14] <foxbuntu> hads, yes, I personally chose doing this for a reason
[04:14] <foxbuntu> hads, I have several drives in each of my machines and use th SGs
[04:14] <puff> Any preferences?
[04:14] <foxbuntu> hads, so each drive gets mounted into /mythtv/store[n]
[04:15] <hads> hipitihop: It should continue as normal I believe
[04:15] <puff> okay, created.
[04:15] <puff> Now add to /etc/fstab?
[04:15] <foxbuntu> puff, yup
[04:15] <hads> foxbuntu: /srv/mythtv/store[n] or /mnt/ or something. Top level is naughty.
[04:15] <BlueSteel> oh btw, the whole system system on my TV box (FE+BE on same box) is ext3, could this be causing issues? many people seem to be running JFS or some other filesystem for their mythtv recordings / temporary recordings
[04:15] <foxbuntu> hads, I know...but I like naaaaaughty
[04:15] <puff> From my log:  /dev/sda1       /mythtv/ ext3    defaults       0       0
[04:15] <foxbuntu> puff, you got t
[04:15] <foxbuntu> puff, actually
[04:16] <foxbuntu> /dev/sdb1*
[04:16] <hads> Make the last 0 a 2 also
[04:16] <foxbuntu> hads, why is that?
[04:16]  * foxbuntu is not 100% with fstab
[04:16] <hads> That way if it's a dirty filsystem it will get fsck at boot.
[04:16] <puff> Cool, mounts with no errors.
[04:17] <foxbuntu> puff, cool
[04:17] <foxbuntu> hads, ah alright
[04:17] <hads> foxbuntu: / entry should be 1 then all others > 1
[04:17] <hads> Unless you want no check then 0
[04:17] <puff> Okay, so now I have to tell mythtv about the disk, right?
[04:17] <foxbuntu> hads, for me, I would want no check...but thats me
[04:18] <foxbuntu> puff, yup
[04:18] <foxbuntu> puff, mythtv-setup
[04:18] <hads> foxbuntu: No check is fine, it just means it won't mount if it's dirty.
[04:18] <foxbuntu> puff, then its Storage Directories
[04:18] <puff> Well, mythtv is already running X on the svideo-out UI.
[04:18] <foxbuntu> hads, yeah...I am ok with that for my system...most might not
[04:18] <foxbuntu> puff, then use ESC to close out of it
[04:19] <hads> BlueSteel: ext3 is okay, there are other choices but ext still works.
[04:19] <foxbuntu> puff, then in the Applications > System > MythTV Backend Setup
[04:19] <hads> foxbuntu: Yeah, the only problem in some situations if it doesn't mount and the user doesn't notice then a recording can fill up / and make bad things happen.
[04:20] <foxbuntu> hads, agreed
[04:20] <foxbuntu> hads, I will besure to tell users 2 from now on :)
[04:20] <foxbuntu> (or higher)
[04:20] <hads> And... no top level weird directories :)
[04:20] <foxbuntu> hads, lmao
[04:20] <puff> Whoops, I was off mucking with mythtv and didn'tsee what you said.  I ended up opening a terminal in the s-video out screen and running mythtv-setup.   Is tha tokay?
[04:21] <puff> This would be easier if I could use the keyboard while seeing the screen :-).
[04:21] <foxbuntu> hads, I will have all users uninstall xfce, install irssi and watching TV matrix style, does that work for you?
[04:21] <puff> I really need to rearrange stuff here.
[04:21] <foxbuntu> lol
[04:21] <foxbuntu> puff, no close them both out then open mythtv-setup back up
[04:21] <puff> Close "both"?
[04:22] <foxbuntu> puff, from what I read you left mythfrontend open?
[04:22] <puff> I exited out of the mythtv UI, but it was still sending X to the Svideo out.
[04:22] <foxbuntu> oh ok
[04:22] <foxbuntu> then you are fine
[04:22] <foxbuntu> my misread
[04:22] <puff> I think at tht point I was on the x desktop.
[04:22] <puff> At least it more or less acted like the X desktop.
[04:23] <foxbuntu> puff, well its Xfce on X server
[04:24] <hipitihop> hey BlueSteel, where are you based ? I'm on Sunshine Coast, QLD ... have you got grabber setup and which are you using ?
[04:24] <puff> Okay, so now storage directories, it's listing default, hitatch (the 1TB), create live TV group, create db backup group, create new group.
[04:25] <foxbuntu> puff, now you know where it is, here is what I generally do....
[04:25] <foxbuntu> puff, I create a directory structure like /mythtv/store0/recordings/  livetv/ db_backups/ ect ect
[04:26] <puff> right, create that at the shell or through this menu?
[04:26] <foxbuntu> puff, then you just add those paths to the Storage Groups that already exist
[04:26] <puff> Are there any storage groups that already exist?  default?
[04:26] <foxbuntu> puff, you can add them in there first if you like, but it will complain
[04:26] <foxbuntu> puff, default is the recordings
[04:26] <puff> So, a) create the directory structure with mkdir
[04:27] <foxbuntu> puff, and *add* it is key so it will use both drives
[04:27] <puff> b) select Storage Directories, then [create new group]?
[04:27] <puff> I don't see an option labeled add.
[04:27] <foxbuntu> puff, edit the existing groups
[04:28] <foxbuntu> puff, then you will see an option to add an entry
[04:28] <foxbuntu> ...inside the existing groups
[04:28] <puff> I don't see an edit option.
[04:28] <foxbuntu> just highlight and hit enter
[04:28] <puff> I have at the top, 1. general 2. capture cards, 3. video sources, 4. input connections, 5. channel editor, 6 storage directories.
[04:29] <foxbuntu> 6
[04:29] <foxbuntu> highlight default
[04:29] <foxbuntu> ht enter on default
[04:29] <puff> When I select storage directories, I see a title at the top, Storage Groups, then default, hitatchi, create livetv group],
[04:29] <puff> Okw7.
[04:30] <puff> Ah-hah, /var/lib/mythtvrecordings and (add new directory)
[04:30] <foxbuntu> add new :)
[04:30] <foxbuntu> there you have it figured out
[04:30] <puff> So, 1) create the directories iwth mkdir, 2) add them here..
[04:30] <foxbuntu> I know that menu is less than intuitive
[04:30] <puff> What's store0 about?  Just chunking them up?
[04:30] <foxbuntu> puff, no need to actually do that, just habit for me
[04:31] <puff> OkayOkay, so just mkdir /mythth/recordings
[04:31] <foxbuntu> puff, also: sudo chown mythtv:mythtv -R /mythtv/
[04:31] <puff> What's db_backups about?
[04:31] <foxbuntu> puff, sorry, thats a later version of mythtv
[04:32] <foxbuntu> puff, there are many more Storage Groups in the next version of mythtv
[04:32] <foxbuntu> only create the directories need for the groups you already have
[04:33] <puff> Okay.
[04:36] <puff> Okay, added.
[04:36] <foxbuntu> ok
[04:37] <foxbuntu> then you should be set
[04:37] <foxbuntu> it will handle putting the data where there is free space
[04:37] <puff> created /mnt/mythtv/recordings, chown -R mythtv.mythtv, went to UI and added new directory.
[04:37] <foxbuntu> puff, is your 1TB mounted to /mnt/mythtv ?
[04:37] <puff> So, now I just copy the media files over from the old drive onto the terabyte drive?
[04:37] <puff> Yes.
[04:38] <foxbuntu> ok
[04:38] <foxbuntu> what?
[04:38] <puff> And it's in /etc/fstab so it should automatically mount in the future.
[04:38] <puff> Yes it's mounted.
[04:38] <foxbuntu> I mean what media files?
[04:38] <puff> Oh, I have a bunch of movies such.
[04:38] <foxbuntu> old recordings? dvds/videos/music?
[04:38] <foxbuntu> oh
[04:39] <puff> movies and such.
[04:39] <puff> We were using them with a mac mini and a svideo out adapter dongle and vlc.
[04:39] <foxbuntu> well you have a few options
[04:39] <foxbuntu> go create a Storage Group (which I suggest)
[04:39] <foxbuntu> or just create a directory
[04:39] <puff> I created a storage group, I thought.
[04:40] <foxbuntu> you did
[04:40] <foxbuntu> for recordings
[04:40] <puff> Ah.
[04:40] <foxbuntu> you need one for videos
[04:40] <puff> So create another one for directly uploaded media..
[04:40] <puff> Okay.
[04:40] <foxbuntu> so same steps again
[04:41] <foxbuntu> but this time create your own SG then add the directory to it
[04:41] <hads> 0.22 Storate groups are cool.
[04:41] <foxbuntu> hads, indeed they are
[04:41] <puff> So, mkdir, chown, then esc back out of default and make a new group, enter that group, add the new directoryd?.
[04:42] <foxbuntu> yup
[04:42] <foxbuntu> hads, you will be coming all the way to UDS right?
[04:43] <foxbuntu> ;)
[04:43] <hads> Too far away for me. Where is it this year anyway?
[04:43] <foxbuntu> Dallas, TX, US
[04:43] <puff> Okay, added the new group and added the directory
[04:44] <foxbuntu> puff, alright, now you will have to configure that in the mythtv UI
[04:45] <puff> Okay, so exit out of myth-tv setup, then run mythtv again?
[04:45] <foxbuntu> puff, Utils/Settings > Settings > Media > General
[04:45] <foxbuntu> puff, yup
[04:47] <hads> Odd, I've never seen a splitter stop working before.
[04:48] <foxbuntu> hads, RG6?
[04:48] <hads> Just a standard splitter with F-Connectors.
[04:49] <hads> Suddenly stopped working.
[04:49] <hads> Replaced it with another and everything is fine.
[04:49] <foxbuntu> hads, is it grounded or no?
[04:49] <hads> Na
[04:52] <puff> foxbuntu: Hm, it says "Cannot create a file /mnt/mythtv/videos//.test - directory is not writable?"
[04:53] <puff> And the same thing for /mnt/mythtv/recordings//.test and then a duplicate error message /mnt/mythtv/videos//test
[04:53] <hads> That kinda says it all doens't it?
[04:53] <puff> Also, I'm not sure I actually did this, but I noticed that there was a storage diretory under the hitatchi storage group, named /mnt/mythtv/videos
[04:53] <puff> hads: Does it?
[04:54] <foxbuntu> hads, one thing I have run into is static build up, if you pull the source side out from the wall/ant/whatever and touch the copper to ground it out and plug it back in, it sometime will fix it
[04:54] <puff> I edited the directories and saw there were trailing backslashes, deleted them and clicked okay.
[04:54] <karatekickz> I borked my mythbuntu box trying to update to .22 can someone help me w a course of action to fix it?
[04:54] <hads> Whatever it is, I'm assuming the backend, can't write to that directory. You need to check the ownership and permissions.
[04:55] <hads> foxbuntu: This one is broken broken, I've moved it to a different place and tried it there too.
[04:55] <hads> karatekickz: You need to state what borked is.
[04:55] <foxbuntu> hads, ah...
[04:55] <puff> They all belong to user mythtv, group mythtv, but they're not group-writable.  I guess I should chmod g+w?
[04:56] <karatekickz> I tried to update via a repo that I dont think is compatible with mythbuntu
[04:56] <foxbuntu> puff, try this sudo chmod 775 -R /mnt/mythtv
[04:56] <karatekickz> so I think I need to do a complete un install re install
[04:56] <puff> Should I remove the hitatchi storage group?
[04:56] <hads> puff: If you were following foxbuntu's advice then didn't you put them in /mythtv rather than under /mnt?
[04:56] <hads> Or did that get changed.
[04:56] <foxbuntu> puff, naw
[04:56] <puff> hads: He suggested /mnt/mythtv
[04:57] <hads> Oh okay.
[04:57] <puff> Okay, so did chmod -R g+w /mnt/mythtv, now they're all group writable.
[04:57] <puff> Do they need to be group executable, too?
[04:57] <karatekickz> used these instructions http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/402294
[04:57] <hads> karatekickz: You can uninstall through any of the package managers.
[04:57] <hads> Then fix your sources, update the package lists and reinstall.
[04:58] <karatekickz> yeah I know
[04:58] <hads> Beware that if you updated the mythtv version without a database backup then you won't be able to downgrade.
[04:58] <hads> The only way is up.
[04:58] <karatekickz> no worries
[04:58] <karatekickz> I figured this was the process...
[04:58] <puff> Okay,no complaints this time when exiting, though it wants me to fill the daatabase, etc.
[04:59] <puff> And now I run myth frontend?
[04:59] <karatekickz> so sort the package manager by repos
[04:59] <foxbuntu> puff, yup
[04:59] <karatekickz> then uninstall all of them?
[04:59] <karatekickz> could I have added a mythbuntu repos source?
[05:00] <karatekickz> I just tried to install the mythbuntu-repos.deb file
[05:00] <puff> Wait,d o I have to start mythtv backend?
[05:01] <foxbuntu> puff, no it does it all on its own
[05:01] <puff>  Okay.  Utils/Settings/Media/General
[05:02] <foxbuntu> yup
[05:02] <puff> I'm there.
[05:02] <puff> Does mythtv/ubuntu come with screen capture support?
[05:02] <foxbuntu> you should see the directories for videos and so on
[05:02] <puff> E.g. can I run through this again, sometime, and take snapshots for a tutorial?
[05:02] <foxbuntu> puff, print screen should do it
[05:03] <puff> Hm, I think that's under media settings.
[05:03] <karatekickz> removing all packages atm... can I add a testing repo for .22?
[05:03] <puff> I selected general and it has a, screen about dataabses, then another one, then about audio... exited back out to the menu that contained general, ait also had media.
[05:03] <foxbuntu> puff, there are two settings menus
[05:04] <foxbuntu> puff, as in from top menu its Settings > Settings > Media > General
[05:04] <puff> Utilities / Setup => Music Tools, Video Manager, Edit Keys, Setup, Mythbuntu Logs
[05:04] <karatekickz> oh... looks like I already did w that .deb file
[05:04] <foxbuntu> puff, sorry, setup
[05:05] <puff> Select setup => General, Appearance, Screen Setup Wizards, TV settings, Media Settings, Info Center Settings, Mythbuntu.
[05:05] <puff> Select General and i get stuff about database.
[05:05] <puff> Select Media and I get stuff about directories.
[05:05] <foxbuntu> thats the one
[05:05] <puff> The second? Media?
[05:05] <foxbuntu> Im doing this al off memory since I am using my myth boxen
[05:05] <foxbuntu> yes
[05:05] <puff> Myth boxen?
[05:06]  * foxbuntu is clear as mud tonight
[05:06] <hads> What are you setting up?
[05:06] <puff> Media gives me Music SEttings, Videos Settings, images Settings, Archive Files Settings.
[05:06] <foxbuntu> hads, he just needs to setup his videos directory in mythfrontend
[05:06] <puff> hads: I added a 1 TB drive to my freshly installed mythbuntu box.
[05:06] <foxbuntu> puff, videos settings
[05:06] <hads> If you're using 0.22 and have setup the mythvideo storage groups that's all you need to do. Or are we talking 0.21
[05:06] <foxbuntu> hads .21
[05:07] <puff> Video Settings => General Settings, Player Settings, File Types, Rip Settings.
[05:07] <hads> Oh, okay then :)
[05:07] <puff> Yeesh, maybe I shoulda downlaoded a newer version.
[05:07] <hads> All this storage groups talk confused me.
[05:07] <foxbuntu> puff, General
[05:07] <foxbuntu> puff, its not released yet
[05:08] <puff> Okay, Directories that hold videos:  /va/lib/mythtv/videos
[05:08] <foxbuntu> puff, its safer for you at this point as a newish user
[05:08] <puff> Directories that holds movie posters, Default View.
[05:08] <foxbuntu> puff, change the videos one to the directory you created
[05:08] <foxbuntu> puff, then you can just dump you videos in there
[05:08] <karatekickz> I have everything from the borked repos uninstalled....
[05:09] <karatekickz> I have entries for the weeklys... from the .deb I installed mythbunto.org
[05:09] <puff> So will tihs entirely side-step the 250GB drive?
[05:09] <karatekickz> but no listings of packages
[05:09] <karatekickz> I didnt reboot yet
[05:09] <foxbuntu> puff, yes, for videos
[05:10] <puff> Okay, cool.
[05:10] <puff> Then it can use the 250 for recordings.
[05:10] <karatekickz> ailed to fetch http://US.weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org/mythbuntu/trunk-0.22/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found
[05:10] <karatekickz> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:10] <karatekickz> thoughts?
[05:10] <puff> karatekickz:  USe a pastebin.
[05:10] <puff> http://pastebin.com
[05:10] <hads> URLs should be lower case.
[05:10] <karatekickz> sorry man
[05:10] <foxbuntu> puff, 2 lines is ok
[05:11] <puff> Okay, so now it should be all good, I just plug in the portable drive and copy my media files across under /mnt/mythtv/videos?
[05:11] <hads> karatekickz: You're using Jaunty?
[05:11] <puff> karatekickz: 's cool, just don't want you to get into trouble.
[05:11] <hads> I'd just upgrade to karmic if it were me.
[05:11] <karatekickz> my thinks
[05:11] <puff> foxbuntu: And will it matter if I the videos I'm copying over are in subdirectories?
[05:11] <foxbuntu> puff, nope
[05:12] <puff> foxbuntu: e.g. I'll have /mnt/mythtv/videos/movie1, /mnt/mythtv/videos/movie2, etc?
[05:12] <karatekickz> I had no idea btw there was a weekly build thing going on... that would have saved me 3 hours ... now that I borked it doing it from some other repo
[05:12] <karatekickz> GROAN
[05:12] <puff> And then they'll just show up in the mythtv Video Manager interface?
[05:13] <foxbuntu> puff, yup
[05:13] <hads> If you're wanting to use 0.22 then karmic will be stable enough for you.
[05:13] <karatekickz> so should the repos installer have an icon? or does it do it via the package/update manager?
[05:13] <puff> foxbuntu: Yay!
[05:14] <foxbuntu> puff, sounds like you have reached your goal
[05:14] <puff> foxbuntu: Commencing to do some mighty disk-to-disk copying.... back in an hour or two to try it oy and let you know how it's all worked out.
[05:14] <foxbuntu> puff, sounds great...gl
[05:15] <karatekickz> alright so myth is totally removed my from my mythbuntu ATM
[05:15] <foxbuntu> karatekickz, great..now you have a buntu
[05:15] <Casper0082> karatekickz:  I had issues using the US.weeklybuilds.  I edited my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list and removed US. from weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org
[05:15] <karatekickz> I have repos in my package manager to the .22   can I use that to install myth wo reinstalling .21? installing
[05:15] <karatekickz> TY CASPER
[05:16] <Casper0082> I was then able to apt-get update
[05:16] <Casper0082> np.
[05:16] <karatekickz> BOOYAH!
[05:16] <karatekickz> trying now
[05:17] <karatekickz> there they are !
[05:17] <karatekickz> its one thing after another
[05:17] <karatekickz> they need to fix the .deb file me thinks??>?
[05:17] <Casper0082> Not sure.  Might be that the US mirror is down
[05:18] <karatekickz> when you refreshed were all of the packages preselcted for install for you?
[05:19] <Casper0082> Well, since you removed them, you need to manually select them
[05:19] <karatekickz> they appear to be select
[05:20] <Casper0082> Oh.  Okay :)
[05:20] <karatekickz> now it says I have a broken package
[05:20] <karatekickz> my package isnt broken it just hasnt been tested for awhile! <rimshot>
[05:24] <karatekickz> is there any known issues with the nvidia 172 drivers btw?
[05:24] <karatekickz> and myth
[05:26] <Casper0082> Did you fix your broken package issue?
[05:27] <karatekickz> hehe
[05:27] <karatekickz> in the process of installing now
[05:28] <karatekickz> man I had no clue there was a weekly repo
[05:28] <Casper0082> I'm not sure about the nvidia drivers.  Been using 180.
[05:28] <karatekickz> this would have saved me so much time
[05:29] <karatekickz> I always have issues with vid drivers... tried to install the 190's from 172 and no dice
[05:33] <karatekickz> gonna reboot brb thx for the help so far
[05:39] <karatekickz> well it seems to be working... missing the icons ... and a couple skin graphics though
[05:40] <karatekickz> wish I would not have borked it though cause likely I am going to run into problems down the road that are over my n00b head
[05:41] <karatekickz> I used to have an icon for a window based configuration program... what is that called again?
[05:45] <Casper0082> mythbuntu-control-centre or mythtv-setup?
[05:48] <karatekickz> GROAN
[05:48] <karatekickz> man this should have been so easy
[05:48] <karatekickz> now I dont even know where im at
[05:48] <karatekickz> any idea why I am missing icons? and a couple skin graphics?
[05:49] <karatekickz> just found the mythbuntu control... and am installing
[05:51] <karatekickz> alright cool got that back thx to you... now the only problem is the missing icons and why
[05:51] <Casper0082> Not sure what you mean by missing icons
[05:52] <karatekickz> sorry my linux lingo is n00b but the icon that represents myth in the launcher
[05:53] <Casper0082> Did you try add/remove? :)
[05:53] <karatekickz> trying to change now in the main menu.... it has it pointing to some blank .png file mythtv_logo.png
[05:53] <karatekickz> weird
[05:55] <karatekickz> can you check the path of your icon in the Main Menu under preferences?
[05:55] <karatekickz> I am using gnome though
[05:55] <karatekickz> u prolly are using xfce
[05:59] <karatekickz> could anyone tell me the path of the launcher icons for myth?
[06:01] <karatekickz> figured it out
[06:01] <karatekickz> it was using icons from an old .21 theme
[06:01] <karatekickz> never updated
[06:06] <karatekickz> this is so weird... when I go to install some .22 themes... it says I need to install the whole app others.. its fine thoughts?
[06:07] <karatekickz> uninstall the whole app that is
[06:19] <karatekickz> im out for now thx for  the help all!
[07:21] <daniel32708> Hello!  Is there another alternative to Schedulesdirect.org... free?
[07:24] <superm1> you can use EIT data for some OTA stations
[07:24] <superm1> but it's usually only 1-2 days out
[07:24] <superm1> schedules direct is fairly inexpensive for a year's service
[07:25] <daniel32708> yeah
[07:25] <daniel32708> thing is I aint in the US
[07:26] <superm1> Canada or elsewhere?
[07:26] <superm1> in canada you can still use schedules direct.  elsewhere, xmltv provides data for some areas
[07:26] <daniel32708> Costa Rica, Central America
[07:27] <daniel32708> ill try xmltv
[07:29] <daniel32708> thx man
[11:21] <kaeles> ok, I upgraded my backend to .22,  its telling me the client only recognizes protocol version 50 and the server uses version 40  in the backend setup... any clue ? I checked the apt-cache policy and the mythtv backend is at version .22 build 22517
[11:24] <kaeles> im not sure what client it means, I'm only trying to get into the backend setup
[11:30] <hads> Something is still old or hasn't been restarted.
[11:40] <kaeles> i rebooted the machine, but I seem to be having some issues getting the db update
[11:41] <hads> You need to run mythtv-setup or mythbackend to do the update.
[11:42] <hads> mythfrontend won't do it
[11:46] <kaeles> right
[11:46] <kaeles> when I run mythtv-setup it breaks
[11:47] <kaeles> thats when I get the error about the client version
[11:47] <kaeles> i haven't even touched a machine that has a frontend on it yet
[11:54] <hads> Bye
[12:16] <kaeles> ok, got the db working but the backend setup is only showing options 1. 3. and 5. is mythtv .22 supposed to be missing options in the backend setup?
[13:00] <hipitihop> I've noticed occasional errors in mythbackend.log related to deleting certain recordings. "Error deleting '/var/lib/mythtv/recordings/1088_20091014120000.mpg' could not open eno: Permission denied (13)" When I look at those files, the owner is 0 and -rw-r--r-- instead of like others with owenr of 104 and -rw-rw-rw. Anyone know what causes those files to have wrong owner/permissions ?
[14:18] <tmkt> mythexport expert here today?
[14:18] <rhpot1991> tmkt: yepper
[14:19] <rhpot1991> I forget where we left off so you will have to remind me what you were checking last
[14:19] <tmkt> ok...great..
[14:20] <tmkt> so put debug on
[14:20] <tmkt> and it can't seem to find the proper executable
[14:20] <tmkt> http://pastebin.ca/1629658
[14:22] <rhpot1991> tmkt: is that all from the same log, or multiple logs?
[14:22] <tmkt> mytbackend..and mythexport
[14:22] <rhpot1991> tmkt: ok can you modify it and put what came from where
[14:23] <rhpot1991> and then pastebin your /etc/mythtv/mythexport configs
[14:23] <tmkt> sure thing
[14:23] <rhpot1991> also I have a meeting in a few so I'll ping you when I'm back
[14:24] <tmkt> k
[20:17] <TimReichhart> now if I install mythbuntu can I still play videos lets say I download one off the net can I still play it on mythbuntu
[21:03] <gandalfcome> what window manager does mythbuntu use.
[21:18] <gandalfcome> It seems to be the xfce one but I have trouble finding the network plugin
[21:28] <superm1> gandalfcome, in the taskbar network manager is running
[21:37] <gandalfcome> superm1: thanks
[22:22] <P0lux> Does somebody know if there is a project to do a "Emuzed Angel USB TV Tuner" driver for mythbuntu ?
[22:31] <mrand> P0lux: I've gotta run, but I don't think so.  Nor in the Linux community at large.
[22:31] <P0lux> ok, and is it a place where I can make the suggestion ?
[22:36] <P0lux> I think I'm just gonna buy one compatible
[22:36] <P0lux> thank you !