| * MenZa mumbles something incomprehensible. | 00:22 | |
| MenZa | !helpercookie is <alias> !cookie | 00:32 |
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| ubottu | In #ubuntu-ops, MenZa said: !helpercookie is <alias> !cookie | 00:32 |
| Flannel | !helpersnack | MenZa | 02:26 |
| ubottu | MenZa: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! | 02:26 |
| * nalioth steals all the cookies | 02:27 | |
| mneptok | !ops | #ubuntu: Channel ban list is full | 08:24 |
| ubottu | #ubuntu: Channel ban list is full: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia! | 08:24 |
| ubottu | mneptok called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (#ubuntu: Channel ban list is full) | 08:24 |
| KB1JWQ | That's not good. | 08:30 |
| jussi01 | KB1JWQ: happens from time to time, mostly because of the floodbots. | 08:31 |
| KB1JWQ | Ahhh. | 08:31 |
| jussi01 | but also because ops forget to remove bans. | 08:31 |
| KB1JWQ | What's the solution, age it out? | 08:31 |
| jussi01 | we clean it from time to time, myrtti has a great script which identifies who owns the bans | 08:32 |
| Myrtti | http://paste.ubuntu.com/296653/ | 08:32 |
| KB1JWQ | Wasn't aware it was possible to ascertain who set chanserv bans... | 08:32 |
| jussi01 | Myrtti: thanks | 08:32 |
| Myrtti | HTH, HAND | 08:32 |
| KB1JWQ | And speak of the devil. | 08:32 |
| jussi01 | KB1JWQ: I asked her for it :) | 08:33 |
| KB1JWQ | Wow, I have an entry? How'd I screw that one up? | 08:34 |
| KB1JWQ | Sorry about that. | 08:34 |
| jussi01 | KB1JWQ: hehe | 08:37 |
| * jussi01 wonders who vox is... | 08:37 | |
| * jussi01 looks | 08:37 | |
| jussi01 | oh, a staffer. | 08:38 |
| jussi01 | KB1JWQ: perhaps you can get the staffers to look at their bans there and see if still appropriate? | 08:38 |
| KB1JWQ | I'll mention it. | 08:39 |
| KB1JWQ | jussi01: Pung the relevant staffers, but ikonia needs to get with the program. :-) | 08:41 |
| jussi01 | KB1JWQ: what makes you say that? | 08:42 |
| KB1JWQ | jussi01: Next to floodbots and chanserv, s/he's the most prolific. | 08:43 |
| KB1JWQ | Staffers have maybe 15 between 'em. | 08:43 |
| jussi01 | KB1JWQ: err, there are several people with similar amounts.... | 08:45 |
| KB1JWQ | jussi01: I 'spose. Are some of these persistent abusers, or would a mass clearing of the banlist work? | 08:46 |
| jussi01 | KB1JWQ: some are persistant. we dont generally "mass clear" things without looking closely. | 08:47 |
| KB1JWQ | My approach would potentially be to "clear it all, and then watch carefully for people who need to be re-banned," but I may be naive regarding this. :-) | 08:48 |
| * jussi01 hugs KB1JWQ. | 08:48 | |
| * KB1JWQ goes "squee!" | 08:49 | |
| KB1JWQ | But probably 90% or more of those issues are long gone I'd figure. I'd rather have to reban someone than not be able to ban someone who sorely needs it. | 08:50 |
| jussi01 | KB1JWQ: yeah, true. however, theres also an acountability thing here. ops need to be responsible for their bans - and so while I agree the process needs to be updated, I dont think a mass unban is on the cards. | 08:51 |
| KB1JWQ | Ahhh... | 08:52 |
| KB1JWQ | I 'spose there's no mechanism to disallow permanent bans and require a timeperiod be givn (that defaults to a day, week, or whatever)... | 08:52 |
| jussi01 | KB1JWQ: sorry, I got to run, maybe some others can talk further... | 08:56 |
| elky | the problem with those is that the user will usually come back none the wiser as to what they did wrong in the first plac | 08:56 |
| elky | place* | 08:56 |
| KB1JWQ | elky: Right, but I had a ban set that I've removed. If the user came forward with "Why did you ban me," my answer would be "lolwhut?" | 08:58 |
| elky | which means they're likely to just do the same thing again | 09:00 |
| mneptok | wildcard nick!ident bans with raw IPs would be my forst choice for removal | 09:04 |
| mneptok | *first | 09:04 |
| KB1JWQ | mneptok: yeah, I'd agree. Although really, I'd say anything older than a week is likely eligible for "sod it, welcome back." | 09:05 |
| KB1JWQ | Ideally users can reform. | 09:05 |
| mneptok | KB1JWQ: can i live in your little fantasy? seems more pleasant than this "reality" gig. | 09:06 |
| elky | mneptok, it's the koolaid. | 09:12 |
| mneptok | it's easy to sing "all we are saying is give peace a chance" when you have an o: line in your pocket :P | 09:14 |
| topyli | it's all we are saying, man! | 09:30 |
| jussi01 | !java-#kubuntu | 11:44 |
| ubottu | To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper | 11:44 |
| jussi01 | thoughts on whether we still need the dapper part? | 11:44 |
| topyli | kubuntu dapper is dead isn't it? | 11:58 |
| === niko is now known as Guest44249 | ||
| === [NikO] is now known as niko | ||
| jussi01 | !no, java-#kubuntu is <reply>To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. | 13:29 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that jussi01 | 13:29 |
| ikonia | eyeballs on Guest76209 | 13:49 |
| Pici | jussi01: Why do we need a separate factoid for kubuntu java? | 13:56 |
| jpds | Why are we suggesting the usage of Sun's Java when it's been removed from the archive? | 13:58 |
| jussi01 | !info sun-java6-jre karmic | 13:59 |
| ubottu | sun-java6-jre (source: sun-java6): Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-15-1 (karmic), package size 6270 kB, installed size 14360 kB (Only available for all amd64 i386 lpia ia64) | 13:59 |
| jussi01 | jpds: come again? | 13:59 |
| jpds | jussi01: ...soonish. | 13:59 |
| jpds | Considering Sun are dropping support for it next month. | 14:00 |
| jussi01 | o.O | 14:00 |
| jussi01 | !forget java-#kubuntu | 14:00 |
| ubottu | I'll forget that, jussi01 | 14:00 |
| jussi01 | !java | 14:00 |
| ubottu | To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository | 14:00 |
| jpds | jussi01: http://www.outflux.net/blog/archives/2009/09/12/uninstall-sun-java6/ | 14:01 |
| jussi01 | jpds: given my girlfriends bank only accepts sun-java, I wonder how thatlly be dealt with... | 14:02 |
| Tm_T | jussi01: see sampopankki.fi now... | 14:02 |
| jussi01 | Tm_T: The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading. :/ | 14:03 |
| Tm_T | well, the whole site is "down" so I wouldn't worry about java right now (;) | 14:04 |
| jussi01 | heh | 14:04 |
| Gary | tidied my ban, was it only one? | 14:14 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu+1, Dr_Willis said: !nvidia is the factoid | 14:15 |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| genii | shore-doodles? | 18:49 |
| Pici | poodle mixes | 18:50 |
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