[00:00] yep. [00:00] that's what it's for =) [00:01] right :-) [00:01] i've got a hardware RAID card with 4 drives, and room for 4 more. i wanna store my uncompressed HD on here so i can access it via OpenVPN from work. [00:02] but i'm not good with deleting, so i'll prob need to add drives over time to the full 8. [00:02] do you also use LVM? [00:03] LUKS doesn't partition drives, it formats them [00:03] i didn't think i'd need to, since this will be the only partition on the RAID array. [00:03] You might be getting confused between LUKS and LVM [00:03] i encrypted the standalone drive, too, and used LVM to cut it up into a few ext3 partitions for some VMs. [00:04] I think LVM is what you would need to be able to enlarge "logical disks" [00:04] yeah, LVM let's you resize live partitions dynamically. [00:04] but since i'm only going to have the one partition on the RAID, i don't *think* i need it. [00:05] the only think that made me pause was when i realized that i wasn't sure if i could add more free space to the encrypted partition. [00:07] linux's handling of partitions is new to me... with windows, it's all much simpler. =P [00:07] gary0: it's not simpler, you just have less options ;) [00:07] exactly. [00:08] i mean, if i just drop encryption and format the drive as XFS, i can add new free space to the XFS partition. [00:09] I'm not an LVM expert, but I think you'd want to use it for the purpose you're describing [00:09] maybe. [00:09] i first heard of LVM 2 days ago, when i started researching all this. [00:10] windows has something like LVM too, it's just less powerful ;) [00:10] and on linux/unix, people like to put things into layers [00:11] i noticed. [00:11] in the installer, i took the standalone drive and set it as a 'physical volume for encryption' [00:12] which crated a new drive. [00:12] then i took that and created an LVM group in that. [00:12] then in the group i created the actual partitions. [00:12] it certainly makes sense. [00:13] once you get used to it [00:13] and i'm pretty sure i found info on how to add another physical drive to the encrypted volume... which i can then include in the VG, and then in the VPs [00:14] but i couldn't find anything on adding existing free space on the existing physical drive. [00:14] or maybe i did and just didn't know that i'd found what i was looking for. [00:14] except that currently your data on the RAID isn't inside a LVM layer? [00:14] well i don't have any data on the RAID yet, even. [00:14] i'm still at the installation screen =P [00:14] oh, in that case [00:15] not sure about the installation screen [00:15] right now, i've partitioned the system drive... and i was about to partition the RAID when this worry came up. [00:15] ubuntu server's automated installer that comes on the CD [00:15] well, the CD image on the site. [00:16] I'd certainly make sure you use LVM in that case, if not possible during the install, then afterwards (or set up from the live CD before) [00:16] http://kuparinen.org/martti/comp/ubuntu/en/cryptolvm.html [00:17] that's the guide i found for setting up an encrypted partition. [00:17] i guess using LVM doesn't hurt regardless of anything. [00:17] it adds a layer, but as long as i can figure it out, it's not an issue. [00:19] every layer slows things down a very little bit, but if you want encryption, that slows things down a lot... ;-) [00:20] well since i'm gonna be accessing this over the LAN, even with jumbo frames i won't get transfer rates higher than 60-70MB/s [00:20] so the access time isn't an issue. [00:21] transer rates != access times, but whatever ;-) [00:21] however, i was hoping to also use the server (Phenom II x2) to do transcoding and run a few VMs, so if encryption increases the cpu usage a lot, that will definitely affect me. [00:23] i just meant that i can't imagine 4 drives in a RAID5, even with a slowdown due to on-the-fly encrypt/decryption, dropping below the 70MB/s read throughput. [00:23] unless you meant slow things down as in the system itself... [00:28] gary0: that's exactly the sort of thing only you can determine; every layer slows things down, and encryption slows things down considerably, but if the slow-down is acceptable for your purpose, that's okay! ツ [00:29] it's a cost/benefit decision [00:30] i have no idea how much of an effect it'll have. [00:30] i guess i'll have to try and see. [00:30] can i remove the encryption once it's in? [00:30] or would i need to back up the data and repartition everything from scratch? [00:31] last option, I fear [00:32] if you have spare diskspace, you can move things around of course [00:33] I doubt encryption would be an issue though [00:36] i guess we'll see.. thanks for the help =) [02:15] hi all - just wondering if anyone is running 9.10 beta with a apache/mysql setup up thats in production yet? [02:27] Why would anyone with any sanity run a beta OS on a production server? :) [02:36] jmarsden, the high adoption of Windows on servers (and even desktops) shows how people are tolerant with system failures. === eBolorama is now known as _eB [03:07] ebox users? [03:12] New bug: #285439 in backuppc (main) "backuppc does not play nicely with updatedb" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/285439 [03:30] hello, some know any tool with i can read what is the distro of any server? [03:30] I'm trying with nmap [03:31] sudo nmap -O 200.30.138.227 [03:39] DKcross, nmap is about the best you can get, since that information is (for good reason) not explicitly reported by remote hosts [03:40] properly configured firewalls further obscure the information [03:40] qman__, thanks, my dude is for one reason.... i have hosting server, but i'm not sure what distro use... [03:40] DKcross, if you have shell access, check /etc/issue [03:40] is linux but i don't know if centOS or redhat..i'm no sure [03:40] and uname -a [03:41] centOS and redhat are quite similar [03:41] qman__, Linux pikachu 2.6.29.6-aufs2-grsec-v1.4-i686-opt #10 SMP Sat Oct 3 10:27:32 PDT 2009 i686 GNU/Linux [03:42] this line is about uname -a [03:42] yeah [03:42] probably a custom kernel, I don't know of any distros code-named pikachu [03:42] cat /etc/issue, if it's there [03:42] might tell you [03:43] yes! [03:43] is debian server [03:43] [pikachu]$ cat /etc/issue [03:43] Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 \n \l [03:44] nice [03:44] personally, I really dislike redhat and derivatives [03:44] :o [03:44] what is your favorite o prefere? [03:45] ubuntu, naturally [03:45] but I like the debian way far better than the redhat way [03:45] I'll even take BSD over redhat [03:46] good [03:46] what about open suse like server? [03:46] yes i know is similar to red hat.. because is a derivatives.. [03:47] I've actually never used suse [03:47] ohh ok. [03:47] I've only used redhat 9, fedora, RHEL and centOS [03:47] didn't much like any of them [03:48] RPM systems [03:51] I much prefer apt/dpkg to yum and rpm, and I like the way debian does init scripts and conf files over redhat's tools [03:52] and just a number of other bits about how the systems are configured [03:58] qman__, +1 [03:58] :D [06:58] does Ubuntu offer a system I can run locally that let's me build my own private cloud supporting EC2 apis? i want to be able to migrate back&forth between my own cloud and EC2. [07:37] proteusguy: Take a look at Eucalyptus in Karmic. [07:47] Hellow, does ubuntu fully run cloud computing? what can i do using ubuntu cloud? === gamla_ko1san is now known as gamla_kossan [08:05] erichammand: this is what i've heard of but does it let me migrate my environment between my local cloud & ec2? [08:13] sommer: thanks for writing the ubuntu server guide :-) [09:02] New bug: #454521 in eucalyptus (main) "Eucalyptus installer should skip range-of-public-ip's question in favour of DHCP" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/454521 [09:02] New bug: #454540 in eucalyptus (main) "DHCP requests for public IPs should use DHCP options" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/454540 [09:16] New bug: #455246 in eucalyptus (main) "Unnecessary depend on "ecj" adds too many packages to server CD" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/455246 [10:27] Hi. Am trying to automate installation of a package from repository. It asks three questions with debconf style. I know I can pre define these answers with debconf-set-selections. problem is, I don't know the string to set with debconf-set-selections. How can I find out what the package are questioning about? I guess it's in the source package and debian directory? [10:29] oh, found it. debconf-get-selections.. Okay. That was not so hard ;) [10:33] ttx: I have finished testing/updating UECInstall, should we proceed doing the switch with UEC? [10:34] that is on help.ubuntu.com/community/ of course [10:36] nijaba: can't look right now, but that seems like a good idea, if the right pointers are present [10:36] ttx: right pointers? [10:37] The "UEC" doc should stay to cover multi-component install ? [10:37] (granted, it needs some fixes right now) [10:38] maybe rename UEC -> UECmanualinstall and UECinstall -> UEC ? [10:42] hi [10:42] anyone know if the keyserver.ubuntu.com is down? [10:43] been trying to get a gpg key for about an hour or so and still not able to [10:44] ttx: renaming to UEC/PackageInstall [10:45] ttx: pointer is already in place [10:45] nijaba: ok, cool [10:47] acalvo: I've had problems as well. Try another one instead. [10:47] acalvo: Like subkeys.pgp.net or something. [10:52] ttx: done [10:56] soren: thanks === diehaai is now known as thefish [11:18] * soren lucnhes [11:18] ..and lunches [11:19] <_ruben> sounds like a plan [11:26] * nijaba lunches and goes get a haircut :P [11:44] hi all [11:45] people, how I change in clock time of BRT to BRST? [11:53] J_P: You don't. It happens automatically. [11:54] soren: yes, if as configured corectaly when was intalled. So agaim, how I change the timezone? [11:55] J_P: You don't. [11:55] It happens automatically. [11:55] soren: here not happen [11:55] You don't have to manually take care changing anything when daylight savings time kicks in. [11:55] soren: here not happen [11:55] J_P: What does "date" say? [11:56] soren: Seg Out 19 07:55:54 BRT 2009 [11:57] soren: in other machine I have right clock: Seg Out 19 08:56:40 BRST 2009 [11:57] J_P: Which version of tzdata do you have installed? [11:57] soren: I don't know, where I see? [11:57] dpkg -l tzdata [11:58] soren: ii tzdata 2007e-0ubuntu0.7.04 Time Zone and Daylight Saving Time Data [11:58] You're running Feisty? [11:59] soren: yes, feisty = 7.04 [11:59] Feisty has not been supported for almost a year. [12:00] That's your problem. [12:00] soren: yes, I know [12:00] soren: is a joke, I need updagrade just because tzdata is not upgrade [12:00] Your tzdata version does not have correct information about when Brazil has daylight savings. [12:00] What? [12:01] soren: yes, But I can update just tzdata, and not entire distribuition right [12:01] J_P: Feisty is not supported anymore. At all. [12:01] soren: ok, thanks [12:01] You're likely vulnerable to a whole bunch of security problems. [12:01] You really, /REALLY/ should upgrade. [12:01] But yes, you can probably grab tzdata from a later ubuntu version and install that. [12:02] But you really, really, really should upgrade ASAP. [12:02] soren: ASAP? [12:02] As Soon As Possible. [12:02] ahh ok [12:02] Like... Right now. [12:02] Yesterday, if you can. [12:03] soren: I a server, is more complicated.. [12:03] soren: because this , Now I just use ONLY LTS in servers [12:03] The version of tzdata you have is not even the most current one for Feisty. [12:05] http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tzdata/tzdata_2008g-0ubuntu0.7.04_all.deb [12:05] Try installing that one and see if it fixes it. [12:05] J_P: ..but you should still upgrade. [12:06] soren: ok [12:27] soren: I just copy /etc/locatime from 8.04 to 7.04 and works :-) [12:29] soren: but I will upgrade it.. :-) [12:36] How could I get a file from a package without installing the entire package [12:36] For example just the init.d script [13:00] morning [13:22] mornings :) [13:36] Hello all. Would this be the correct please to ask someone to follow up on a sponsorship request for bug 341256? [13:36] Launchpad bug 341256 in unattended-upgrades "RFE: unattended-upgrades should identify host." [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/341256 [13:36] That one :-) [13:36] morning any of the server devs here [13:36] Ah, cool. Any takers? :-) [13:36] I need help with some php mods I am not fimding in the repos [13:37] php5-xml php5-json php5-xmlwriter php5-xmlreader php5-posix php5-iconv php5-hash php5-simplexml php5-pcre php5-filter php5-dom php5-session php5-spl [13:37] UnixDawg: apt-cache search [13:37] is what I usually do to find packages [13:37] I did they are not there [13:37] or use aptitude [13:38] thats the issue [13:38] UnixDawg: I'd do apt-cache search php xml [13:39] hello [13:39] dont find them and I need them [13:40] I would like to run a file server. could someone help me please? [13:40] use nfs or samba [13:40] greenkernel1: take a look at the ubuntu community help about samba [13:40] your chooice [13:41] I'm not using ubuntu server edition currently. I'm using desktop version. but, I like to add a software to help my machine runs like a server. [13:42] is that possible? [13:42] UnixDawg: did you take a look at php5-cli? it includes several packages [13:42] yes [13:42] greenkernel1: in fact is easier if you're using the desktop version [13:42] I have it installed [13:42] just create a folder [13:42] and check share permissions [13:42] that'd run as a file server [13:43] okay .. what software should i install? [13:43] but looking in the/usr/lib/php 1/2 the modules are not listed in the extensions.ini [13:43] greenkernel1: nothing, just try to do that and it'd tell you what needs to be installed [13:44] try to do what? sorry .. I'm quite new to networking. [13:44] greenkernel1: just create a folder and try to share it [13:44] it will pop-up a dialog about options [13:44] share with who? [13:44] share across the network [13:44] none of these php mods show up [13:44] php5-xml php5-json php5-xmlwriter php5-xmlreader php5-posix php5-iconv php5-hash php5-simplexml php5-pcre php5-filter php5-dom php5-session php5-spl [13:45] none of them show up in the repo list or in the php modules dir [13:45] they are missing [13:46] okay .. I think I need to tell you what I want to do exactly first. I want to share my files with my friends. [13:46] ttx: have you seen the likewise open evenlog bug? bug 454164 [13:46] across the network or across the internet? [13:46] Launchpad bug 454164 in likewise-open5 "likewise-open5-eventlog doesn't properly install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/454164 [13:46] greenkernel1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba [13:46] and I don't want to upload my files to another server like hosting services. [13:46] anyone have a LAMP installed in Karmic? if so what is the result from ... php -r 'var_dump(function_exists("gzopen"));' [13:46] zul: yes, I saw that. I need to look into it [13:46] across the internet. [13:47] well this makes deb unuseable for the project [13:47] this sucks [13:47] to many pkgs missing [13:47] greenkernel1: ok then, you'll need to install a ftp server [13:47] ttx: just making sure [13:47] UnixDawg: look http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/php5-cgi [13:48] I've already installed vsftpd and tested .. it didn't work for me. [13:48] this modules are already in this package: bcmath bz2 calendar ctype date dba dom exif filter ftp gettext hash iconv json libxml mbstring mime_magic openssl pcre posix Reflection session shmop SimpleXML soap sockets SPL standard sysvmsg sysvsem sysvshm tokenizer wddx xml xmlreader xmlwriter zip zlib. [13:48] greenkernel1: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html [13:49] I have installed all the php5 libs that are in the repo and still the modules/extensions I have klisted do not show up [13:50] I just want to share my files to others (no write access to my drive). some people said it's better to run a http server. [13:50] is that right? [13:50] greenkernel1: ftp means file transfer protocol, so I'd point to use FTP instead of HTTP [13:51] and before we discuss further, some people said I'm behind a NAT. is it possible to run a ftp server for me? [13:51] so deb lacks alot of the php extensions [13:52] O well [13:52] greenkernel1: it is, if you have access to the policies of your router and you can map the port 21 to your machine (or any other port you want to use) === felimwhiteley_ is now known as felimwhiteley [13:53] root@ubuntupbx:/usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs# ls curl.so mysqli.so pdo_mysql.so pdo_sqlite.so tidy.so mcrypt.so mysql.so pdo_odbc.so sqlite3.so xmlrpc.so mhash.so odbc.so pdo.so sqlite.so xsl.so [13:53] I think I don't have access to change the policies of the router. [13:53] how could I check if I have access to the router? [13:53] is all the php extensions that are installed [13:53] php5-xml php5-json php5-xmlwriter php5-xmlreader php5-posix php5-iconv php5-hash php5-simplexml php5-pcre php5-filter php5-dom php5-session php5-spl are missing [13:54] and I have looked for them [13:54] UnixDawg: why don't you try to create a test file with the modules you need and see if they're already there? [13:54] and with out these extensions the php app wont work [13:55] greenkernel1: you should know the IP of your router, and the user/password to access the router configuration [13:55] I am a bsd person trying to learn deb server . I dont know how to make pkgs on deb [13:55] okay .. how could I find the IP of the router? [13:55] there not there [13:55] UnixDawg: I don't think you'll need to create deb packages... [13:55] they would be listed in the extensions dir if they where [13:56] New bug: #454263 in backuppc (main) "Update of backuppc (server) crashed on update (dup-of: 445154)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/454263 [13:56] installed [13:56] How could I get a single file from a package without installing the entire package first? [13:56] Bilge: 'apt-get source foo' [13:57] cd /usr/src [13:57] Does source mean source code only or would it include package maintainer's files such as init.d scripts [13:57] greenkernel1: Run "route" and look at the default route's IP [13:57] Bilge: everything needed to build the package [13:58] Bilge: what package and what file are you after? [13:58] znc as it happens [13:58] init.d script [13:58] Does it make any difference? [13:58] UnixDawg: from what I can see, almost all your packages are or inside the -cli, -cgi or standalone (like -dom or -json) [13:58] well I would need a .deb for each module so I can install them on other servers when we build [13:58] smoser: re:"Low" : will be fixed, but not in karmic [13:58] right. [13:59] okay .. this is my route result >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/296819/ .. can you take a look please? [13:59] greenkernel1: ifconfig should tell you more about your network [13:59] Bilge: i'm curious [13:59] Bilge: what release? [13:59] greenkernel1: should be 10.64.64.64 [13:59] oh, and one other poke i forgot to put in that response... "if your product claims itself as 'EC2 compatible cloud'" then bugs like "this doesn't act like EC2" are kind of important, ttx [13:59] I have searched the system for the extensions they dont exist [14:00] okay .. how should I connect to that address? [14:00] so there for it means they where not installed [14:00] so they are not in any deb pkg [14:00] smoser: yes, I just wasn't sure how common it was to crawl the metadata service like this [14:00] pmatulis: 8.04 [14:00] probably not too common. admittedly. [14:00] UnixDawg: I wouldn't say that [14:00] UnixDawg: check the forums, the community, google... [14:00] greenkernel1: Try browsing to it in a web browser - http://10.64.64.64/ [14:01] jdstrand: ping about bug #453453 (libvirt and pulsearmor) can that be closed now since the fix 453329 has been uploaded? [14:01] Launchpad bug 453453 in libvirt "libvirt sometimes hangs when using pulseaudio" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/453453 [14:02] I can't connect to that address >> the connection was reset. [14:03] greenkernel1: Are you at home or on a bigger network managed by someone else? [14:03] I'm at home. [14:03] New bug: #455293 in eucalyptus (main) "UEC management interface still has Eucalyptus as title" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/455293 [14:03] but, I'm using a mobile broadband. [14:03] I have been I am not finding them anywehere [14:04] I have spent 4 days searching for answers and very little true help [14:04] greenkernel1: Is it Telstra (Aus)? [14:04] with these php extensions [14:04] no .. it's StarHub (Singapore). [14:04] pmatulis: I don't think it has any init.d script > http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/amd64/znc/filelist [14:05] is there any love for Bug 439407 [14:05] Launchpad bug 439407 in zlib "Abort class-pclzip.php : Missing zlib extensions" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/439407 [14:05] greenkernel1: OK, well with Telstra the way they have it set up is all the mobile users join a massive "LAN", with a private IP address (10.x.x.x). This makes it impossible for you to run a server on that connection and have it accessible from the outside. [14:06] 10.64.64.64 would be a machine managed by your ISP [14:06] I have inet addr: 10.xx.xx.xx.xx when using ifconfig. [14:06] does that mean I can't run a server? [14:07] That doesn't mean anything [14:09] Bilge: yeah, i was looking at the same [14:09] Bilge: interesting problem, let me know how you make out [14:09] some people said 10.xx.xx.xx is a private network and usually behind a NAT. that machine could not run as a server. is it true? [14:09] I have search the repos and the full system for the extensions [14:09] they are not installed and they are not in the repos [14:09] UnixDawg: post in the forums, mailing lists [14:10] so with ot them it makes ubuntu useless for our project [14:10] 10.64.64.64 could be an externally accessible server, but your computer will not be thanks to your ISP's configuration [14:10] greenkernel1: as long as you set up port forwarding in your router it will work... [14:11] He doesn't have a router - it's wireless [14:11] yes .. i have no router. [14:11] Oh! ok... [14:11] forget I spoke! ;) [14:11] You'd need a land connection with a static IP [14:12] is there any solution to switch my current network to be a static one? [14:12] No [14:12] Guest76209: or a DynDNS (or similar service) to forward your IP ... [14:12] pmatulis: it's not a problem, I've written init.d scripts before, I just thought I'd save myself some time, but all I did was waste it instead [14:13] VK7HSE: Won't work, he's only joining a bigger LAN which is using a 10.x.x.x gateway, which is managed by his ISP [14:13] Bilge: by problem I meant finding the script online or otherwise [14:13] That means I can't run a server with my current network? [14:13] pmatulis: I assume it doesn't exist [14:14] greenkernel1: Correct [14:14] pmatulis: http://doomclaw.de/index.php/2009/08/18/run-znc-at-boot-with-an-init-script/ [14:14] Guest76209: I was referring to your comment "You'd need a land connection with a static IP" [14:14] Oh [14:15] I don't have a fixed IP (from ISP) but I use DynDNS instead! ;) [14:16] So, no one is able to connect to me directly? [14:16] I manage a company's network as part of my work... and their ISP stopped their landline ADSL connection and said they couldn't supply it any more. They told them they can run servers on their wireless product (3 year contract), which they can't. I had to move their mailserver offsite and now I can't even remotely managed their network. [14:17] Correct [14:17] are there daily ISO updates? where can I get them? [14:17] Guest76209: was that a Telstra suggestion? [14:17] Yes [14:18] Gahh! typical... maybe have a look at Internode they are very good for business plans... [14:18] can you connect to me directly if you know my IP address? [14:18] Their ADSL started dropping out. They reconnected it multiple times but it kept dropping out almost immediately. Then they said they can't do it, despite them having used it for years before. [14:18] aubre: for karmic? [14:19] greenkernel1: No [14:19] pmatulis: yes, I was wanting to test the latest UEC CD install [14:19] aubre: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ [14:19] grazi [14:19] Internode wouldn't work either. They're right on the edge of the exchange reach [14:19] okay .. you can't connect to me .. but, can I connect to you if I know your IP address? [14:20] Yep [14:20] ham .. I can connect to you .. but why can't you connect to me? [14:21] Because when you connect out your ISP's router remembers that you sent a request. When it gets a response for that request it sends it back to you. [14:21] If I try to connect to you, I reach your ISP's router and it doesn't know who I actually want to connect to, so it won't work that way. [14:23] you have my IP address to connect with, right? [14:23] No [14:24] If you went to www.whatismyip.com it would tell you the external IP of your ISP's router [14:24] Another user on your ISP's mobile service would get the same IP [14:25] And your computer's IP is a private address (starts with 10.x.x.x), so I can't connect to it [14:25] so how does our ISP's router know what the IP address of my machine is? [14:26] You connect to it when you turn on your wireless device [14:26] can you connect to me using that device's address? [14:26] No, it's a private address [14:27] private address means one way traffic .. outgoing only? [14:28] Sort of [14:28] There are a few IP ranges which are officially private addresses and shouldn't be assigned publically [14:28] One is the 10.x.x.x range [14:28] My own network could use a 10.x.x.x range [14:29] And if your public IP was 10.1.2.3, how would my computer know whether I mean 10.1.2.3 in my own network, or the public address? [14:30] Answer: it wouldn't, which is why private addresses aren't allowed to be assigned publically [14:31] can you assign your machine that 10.1.2.3 is not your network but, another private network? [14:31] No [14:32] Would be nice if you could though [14:32] ttx: soren: still get "EC2 responded with an error for DescribeInstances" in ElasticFox connecting to a 1.6 clc... [14:33] nijaba: euca version ? [14:33] To connect to a specific machine in a different network you'd connect to their external address (router) on a port, say port 80 which is web traffic [14:33] Then your router forwards port 80 to a machine in the network, which is configured in the router [14:34] ttx: 1.6~bzr931-0ubuntu3 [14:34] But your ISP manages their router and they won't configure a port forward just for one user [14:34] nijaba: that one should be alright [14:35] nijaba: Neil Soman upstream has been testing this, maybe he could give some insight [14:35] okay ... so, there is no way to connect to me directly? [14:35] ttx: is he in #eucalyptus? what nick? [14:36] nijaba: no clue, you can use email though [14:36] greenkernel1: Correct, unless you got a different type of internet connection such as landline ADSL [14:36] I have to go to bed [14:36] Bye [14:37] ttx: ok, I will [14:37] bye Guest76209 [14:37] have a good dream. [14:37]