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| jbuncher | Has anyone been affected by Bug #449888? | 04:01 |
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| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 449888 in network-manager-applet "[karmic] network manager gnome does not remember wpa enterprise hidden network passwords over reboot, need to re-create network profile each time." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/449888 | 04:01 |
| jjesse | yes but just updated my system and not haaving that problem | 04:01 |
| jbuncher | jjesse, what are you running? | 04:05 |
| jjesse | jbuncher: dell mini 9 w/ the broadcom driver | 04:05 |
| jjesse | i was having some problems with WPA enterprise and WPA regular and now after updates it seems to be better | 04:06 |
| jbuncher | jjesse, I meant what release, but that's my fault for not clarifying. | 04:06 |
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| thekorn | good morning | 07:50 |
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| shankhs | hi i just joined the ubuntu bug squad... and waiting for a mentor any suggestions? | 08:18 |
| micahg | have you read the wiki page on how to triage yet, shankhs? | 08:21 |
| shankhs | micahg: ya i read the process of triaging? | 09:19 |
| shankhs | anybody online? | 09:24 |
| shankhs | \quit | 09:45 |
| maxb | hggdh: (rather delayed) pong | 09:46 |
| d3xter | hey guys | 10:06 |
| d3xter | my laptop hotkeys doesnt work under 9.10, should i file a bug against hal or devicekit-power? | 10:06 |
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| dns53 | bulletproof x does not seem to work, where should i file a bug? | 13:13 |
| joaopinto | dns53, is that related to /etc/gdm/failsafeXServer ? | 13:15 |
| dns53 | yes, bullet proof x is suppose to be a feature that has been in the last few releases where it will try and start x, if that fails it will start x with fail-safe options | 13:17 |
| joaopinto | x11-common might be a good option | 13:17 |
| dns53 | in my case i did not have the nvidia kernel driver in my system (got broken somehow) and x would crash because it could not use the proprietary drivers | 13:17 |
| joaopinto | there have been some major changes to the boot process, X is started earlier, I am not sure bulletproof was covered | 13:19 |
| dns53 | yeah it does not seem to be | 13:19 |
| dns53 | is there a way of attaching specific log files with apport instead of the previous one? | 13:24 |
| dns53 | is there a manual process to file bugs, the log files sent i need is from 2 reboots ago not the previous log file | 13:43 |
| joaopinto | dns53, ubuntu-bug should redirect you to the link for the bug report | 13:43 |
| dns53 | yes but i will have log files where everything is working, so can i remove them when filing the bug? | 13:44 |
| joaopinto | yes | 13:48 |
| joaopinto | well, or at least attach the relevant ones | 13:48 |
| d3xter | my laptop hotkeys doesnt work under 9.10, should i file a bug against hal or devicekit-power? | 15:13 |
| joaopinto | d3xter, there is something on the release notes about hal being dropped and how it would affect hotkeys setups | 15:16 |
| d3xter | joaopinto: ok, thx | 15:17 |
| bddebian | Boo | 15:20 |
| d3xter | joaopinto: in the technicaloverview it says, that laptop hotkeys has been moved to devicekit-power/disks or udev | 15:23 |
| hggdh | maxb: re. bug 394808 -- I do not have the issue when running info GIT | 15:53 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 394808 in texinfo "info reader now chokes on tab characters in info files" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/394808 | 15:54 |
| maxb | hggdh: That is excellent news | 15:54 |
| maxb | I was attempting to debug recently, but got rather lost | 15:54 |
| hggdh | maxb: the problem now is finding what fixed it... the version we ship is the last official version, and it is from 2008 | 15:54 |
| hggdh | there are a lot of commits in between :-( | 15:55 |
| maxb | We could go the other way and try to find out what broke it | 15:55 |
| hggdh | yes, git bisect could help | 15:55 |
| hggdh | or one of the 7 patches we ship with it | 15:56 |
| hggdh | and I specially wonder about ./patches/fix-direntry | 15:58 |
| maxb | hggdh: It's not in series | 15:59 |
| hggdh | duh. Should have looked at it :-( | 16:00 |
| hggdh | well, it *may* be one to look at, or search on git... | 16:00 |
| maxb | It seems unlikely - surely the makeinfo code isn't involved in display? | 16:01 |
| hggdh | no, it is not -- it worked on GIT, without re-gen. So it has to be something on display/window | 16:03 |
| * maxb sets some bisecting going, then | 16:07 | |
| hggdh | and I will have a look at changes to window.c | 16:09 |
| shankhs | i am new to ubuntu bugs help reqd please! | 16:18 |
| shankhs | dont know where to start there are lots of bugs which one to go for first? | 16:18 |
| hggdh | shankhs: please read the topic -- it points to some very good links | 16:26 |
| hggdh | shankhs: see, for starters, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | 16:27 |
| shankhs | hggdh: I have read that one and I have joined the bugsquad but if you can help me to chose any package to begin with , i will really be grateful. I am programming in c and c++ for 3 years now. | 16:32 |
| hggdh | shankhs: the easiest way is try to find a package you are familiar with -- like something you use. Then start looking at bugs for this package | 16:33 |
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| hggdh | shankhs: please keep in mind that this is *triaging*, not (necessarily) fixing | 16:33 |
| shankhs | hggdh: there are thousands of apps and their bugs reported can you suggest any app which is written in C so that its easy to understand and debug for a beginner like me. | 16:49 |
| hggdh | shankhs: what do you run (Gnome, XFCE, KDE), and what version (Ubuntu 9.04, 8.10, etc)? | 16:50 |
| hggdh | also, please keep in mind that *before* a bug can be fixed, it must be verified to be a real bug | 16:54 |
| maxb | hggdh: Bisection results: breakage introduced by the series of 4 changesets beginning with 45badbea, which really represent a single logical changeset. | 16:56 |
| hggdh | so before 4.1.3 | 16:57 |
| * maxb commences bisection for the fix | 16:58 | |
| shankhs | hggdh: i use Gnome ubuntu 9.04 | 16:59 |
| hggdh | maxb, I am sort of worried -- there are many updates to gnulib in between... | 16:59 |
| hggdh | shankhs: are you familiar with Gnome programming? | 16:59 |
| shankhs | GTK yeah a bit (never developed a huge application using GTK) | 17:00 |
| shankhs | hggdh: only small ones | 17:00 |
| shankhs | hggdh: fo fun | 17:01 |
| hggdh | shankhs: please first get familiar with the bug work process -- see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/KnowledgeBase | 17:02 |
| hggdh | shankhs: then look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures, and try one of the packages there | 17:03 |
| hggdh | if you do not feel comfortable with one, move to another | 17:04 |
| * hggdh booted up a Windows box that has been one year down -- amazing number of HUGE patches to be applied | 17:04 | |
| shankhs | hggdh: thanx for the help | 17:05 |
| hggdh | shankhs: we will be here, so please ask if you have doubts | 17:05 |
| shankhs | hggdh: yeah thanx once again | 17:05 |
| Abhlash | hi | 17:33 |
| Abhlash | every one busy | 17:33 |
| Abhlash | ? | 17:33 |
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| Abhlash | I think i got a bug in the koala beta 9.10, I am not sure how to report that | 17:37 |
| Abhlash | can any one please help me | 17:37 |
| hggdh | Abhlash: what happens? | 17:40 |
| hggdh | and patience helps ;-) | 17:40 |
| Abhlash | I have enabled the root user in my system, and | 17:41 |
| Abhlash | suppose I use the switch user and then again login as a normal user | 17:41 |
| Abhlash | then as the normal user I am trying to shutdown the system | 17:42 |
| Abhlash | ubuntu tells me that to do that I mus enter the admin password, as some one is already in the system | 17:42 |
| hggdh | so? | 17:42 |
| Abhlash | now I am pressing the cancel button instead of entering the password | 17:43 |
| Abhlash | what i can see is i am back in my root desk | 17:43 |
| Abhlash | did I confuse you on this? | 17:43 |
| hggdh | not really. Just a bit. BUT... | 17:43 |
| hggdh | (1) you should *never* *ever* log in to X under root; | 17:44 |
| Abhlash | yes I know that | 17:44 |
| Abhlash | but we can definitely use it, I dont want to type in sudo before every command that I execute | 17:44 |
| hggdh | (2) so you (1) logged in as root; (2) switched over to a new login, and logged in as a normal user; (3) tried to shutdown; | 17:45 |
| Abhlash | yes, exactly | 17:45 |
| hggdh | (4) cancelled the authentication (due to another user logged in);l (5) was thrown back into the first login | 17:45 |
| hggdh | correct? | 17:45 |
| Abhlash | yes.. exactly | 17:46 |
| hggdh | Abhlash: just a comment -- and I am a very experienced *IX person: login as root is bad. Really bad. You do not need it. | 17:46 |
| hggdh | Abhlash: back to your issue. Please create a new user account -- call it test, for example --; try again your scenario without root (using the new user account and your user account | 17:47 |
| Abhlash | ok.. I will disable it .. :) (experience always counts) | 17:47 |
| Abhlash | ok.. I will try and get back.. | 17:47 |
| hggdh | and, anyway, you can always 'sudo -i'... | 17:47 |
| Abhlash | I will be back hggdh, I am trying what you have said now | 17:50 |
| hggdh | k | 17:52 |
| Abhlash | Hi Hggdh | 17:52 |
| hggdh | I am here | 17:52 |
| Abhlash | Me just tried it, now I know why I was being logged into the root user :) | 17:53 |
| Abhlash | I will disable root right now :P | 17:53 |
| hggdh | Abhlash: what you mean by 'disable root right now'? | 17:54 |
| Abhlash | hmm I will disable my root login and use normal user | 17:54 |
| Abhlash | login to work | 17:54 |
| hggdh | all you need is *NOT USE IT* | 17:55 |
| shankhs | hggdh: the scenario given by Abhlash isn't bug! why? | 17:55 |
| shankhs | please i am a noob here | 17:55 |
| hggdh | shankhs: I do not know if it is a bug or not, not yet. cancelling the dialog should not drop to the previous session | 17:55 |
| hggdh | I just wanted to know if being root had anything to do with it | 17:56 |
| Abhlash | I think its x who plays the trick | 17:56 |
| hggdh | probably, yes | 17:56 |
| Abhlash | In X root user can never lock his screen, its some security issue(I am not sure why it do not allow..) but it will not allows | 17:56 |
| shankhs | Abhlash: I think X does not allow lock screen being root because root login is supposed to be in case of high emergency | 17:59 |
| Abhlash | Yup , I guess you are correct.. | 17:59 |
| shankhs | Abhlash: and X advises to get out of root login as soon as i possible. | 17:59 |
| Abhlash | yah, I had been always using the root login.. I will not use it further.. | 18:00 |
| hggdh | this warning is due to the fact that it is a big security issue | 18:00 |
| shankhs | Abhlash: Probhibiting lock screen in root login is X's way of telling "get the hell out of here as soon as possible" ;) | 18:00 |
| hggdh | one important point in having normal user accounts is to minimise the risk of an user error impacting the whole system | 18:01 |
| Abhlash | I am the only user, thas why I was using the root login.. | 18:01 |
| Abhlash | any way.. so we guess that this one is not a bug? | 18:01 |
| hggdh | Abhlash: still shounds weird | 18:02 |
| shankhs | Abhlash: i think it is | 18:02 |
| hggdh | s/sho/so/ | 18:02 |
| hggdh | so it is worth opening a bug on it. Describe what happened, and your tests | 18:02 |
| Abhlash | yah.. I tried to do it.. But i cant add a new bug in launchpad.. | 18:03 |
| shankhs | hggdh: pretty interesting one and I am sure this is going to attract a lot of moral lectures | 18:03 |
| Abhlash | I cant find the exact links | 18:03 |
| Abhlash | to report the bug | 18:03 |
| hggdh | oh yes. :-) | 18:03 |
| shankhs | Abhlash: do you have a LP account | 18:03 |
| Abhlash | yes shanks I do have one | 18:03 |
| shankhs | go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ | 18:05 |
| shankhs | and please search if anyone has filed similar bug | 18:05 |
| Abhlash | thanks doing it now :) | 18:06 |
| shankhs | Abhlash: use apport to get system information and I think xorg conf file can also be helpful | 18:08 |
| Abhlash | ;) | 18:08 |
| maxb | hggdh: I have isolated the fix :-) | 18:27 |
| Omar87 | mzz, Hi | 19:21 |
| Omar87 | mzz, can you help me? | 19:21 |
| Omar87 | mzz, I just want to know how to disable kms. | 19:22 |
| hggdh | maxb: could you add a blurb on what you found, beefing up the debdiff? | 19:24 |
| maxb | ? | 19:25 |
| hggdh | on the texinfo bug, I mean | 19:25 |
| maxb | Yes, but I'm not sure what to say other than: Basic programming bug - fixed upstream - cherrypicked. | 19:25 |
| hggdh | :-) ah well. Good enough, then | 19:26 |
| Omar87 | maxb, I have a problem with Karmic, it keeps crashing and logging out. | 19:26 |
| Omar87 | maxb, I asked for help here days ago and they told me it has to do with my Radeon card. | 19:27 |
| hggdh | maxb: I subscribed the main sponsors | 19:27 |
| Omar87 | So the solution was to either install kernel version 2.6.32 or to disable something called radeon-kms (et. al). | 19:28 |
| Omar87 | Can you help me please? | 19:29 |
| d3xter | hey guys | 19:46 |
| d3xter | can someone look through my feature-request and maybe confirm it? :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-applet/+bug/456394 | 19:49 |
| ubot4 | d3xter: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out | 19:49 |
| hggdh | d3xter: the best place for this feature request would be http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ | 19:51 |
| d3xter | hggdh: oh ok, then i will post it there :) | 19:52 |
| hggdh | d3xter: thank you | 19:52 |
| d3xter | hggdh: is it possible to mark this bug as invalid? | 19:58 |
| hggdh | d3xter: yes, you yourself can do it (or I can do it, as you prefer) | 19:58 |
| d3xter | hggdh: oh well, i found it thanks :) | 19:59 |
| hggdh | d3xter: welcome | 19:59 |
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| del_diablo | Anybody reported any bugs the last few hours? | 20:52 |
| Pici | I'm sure many people have. | 20:53 |
| del_diablo | K | 20:53 |
| del_diablo | then its my net | 20:53 |
| jarnos | There are many bugs titled "WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.31/kernel/power/suspend_test.c:52 suspend_test_finish+0x80/0x90()" although search does not find them. | 21:03 |
| jarnos | This finds some: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=WARNING+52+suspend_test_finish&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package= | 21:10 |
| zorael | Is it impossible to add to the packages a launchpad bug affects without confirming that it's been registered upstream? I get to a page that asks me to enter the upstream bug URL, and upstream bug contact, or a choice saying "I just know it's known upstream" | 21:35 |
| zorael | an* | 21:35 |
| micahg | hggdh: is a package not being able to be installed a critical bug? | 21:35 |
| hggdh | micahg: no, unless it is a critical package | 21:35 |
| micahg | ok | 21:35 |
| hggdh | zorael: can you please re-state your question? I am not sure I follow | 21:36 |
| zorael | hggdh: I have a launchpad bug (415023) that also affects kdebase-workspace, so I want to add that to the packages/projects the bug affects. But when I click "also affects projects" and go through the wizard, I come to a page that assumes the bug is known upstream ("enter URL of upstream bug" / "enter upstream bug contact" / "I just know it's known upstream"), but I don't know if it's known upstream. I can't find it on the upstream | 21:38 |
| zorael | bug tracker. | 21:38 |
| hggdh | bug 415023 | 21:38 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 415023 in gnome-power-manager "brightness is broken on MSI WIND U100" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/415023 | 21:38 |
| micahg | zorael: most likely just a langauge issue | 21:39 |
| zorael | micahg: English though ; / | 21:39 |
| micahg | you should select the last one | 21:39 |
| zorael | micahg: roger | 21:39 |
| micahg | and it'll open the upstream task | 21:39 |
| micahg | zorael: you can file a bug for LP | 21:39 |
| hggdh | zorael -- "also affects distribution" | 21:39 |
| micahg | zorael: https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/ | 21:39 |
| hggdh | "also affects package" is for upstream, "also affects distribution/packages" is for local | 21:40 |
| micahg | but hggdh is right, you want to select distro, not project | 21:40 |
| zorael | hggdh, micahg: doh, I added it as a project; should I remove it? | 21:40 |
| hggdh | but it is really confusing... | 21:41 |
| hggdh | zorael: you cannot remove it. I marked it invalid (and you can also do the same, BTW) | 21:42 |
| zorael | hggdh: I see it, thanks :3 | 21:42 |
| hggdh | welcome. Thank you for helping out | 21:42 |
| BUGabundo | boas noites | 22:29 |
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