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pleia2cprofitt, Vantrax, doctormo, bodhi_zazen: meeting?00:01
doctormoyes00:01
cprofittyes00:01
Vantraxtied up at work sorry00:09
cprofittVantrax, we are in meeting... if you are not...00:14
Vantraxsorry I wasnt able to participate that much00:40
cprofittNo problem Vantrax00:41
cprofittwelcome BiosElement00:41
BiosElementHey cprofitt00:41
doctormoBiosElement: You just missed a meeting00:42
swoodyhello BiosElement :)00:42
BiosElementAye, I noticed. I've been down with a cold so I hadn't checked my mail like I usually do.00:42
pleia2aladdin++00:42
* pleia2 hugs BiosElement 00:42
pleia2hope you feel better!00:42
swoodyBiosElement, that stinks, sounds like a few people have come down with a bug :(00:43
BiosElementAhh, I think I'm through the worst of it now. Hopefully I'll be able to spend more time working soon. >.>00:43
swoodygood to hear :)00:43
BiosElementWell, and it also probably doesn't help that I've installed kubuntu as my current primary and am toying with it >.>00:48
doctormoI here H1N1 is going around00:49
swoodydoctormo, indeed, a girl from the city my fiancee works in died from H1N1 just the other week :(00:50
Vantraxaway at a meeting now00:51
cprofittBiosElement, one important part of the meeting is that you and doctormo will be working on finalizing the process of creating courses using asciidoc, bzr and Moodle00:53
cprofittand creating an on-line course to covert that process with contributors00:53
cprofittwith a target date of January00:53
cprofittsince you were not there I think it is fair to ask if you feel that is a reasonable time frame for completing that work00:54
cprofittalso BiosElement I am slowly creating an example Moodle course -- http://learn.ufbt.net/course/view.php?id=800:56
cprofittI added you as a non-editing teacher for that course BiosElement00:57
cprofittso you can use it to assist with developing the process00:57
cprofittBiosElement, just checking -- are you here?01:01
cprofittdoctormo, did you get the link to the course too?01:03
doctormocprofitt: I did01:03
cprofittk01:03
cprofittcool...01:04
cprofittI am not done, but you can see the progress...01:04
doctormoSorry if I have a high ping, disney films will do that.01:04
pleia2hehe01:04
* pleia2 looooves disney movies too01:04
BiosElementcprofitt: I'm around now. Ahh, I think that should be resonabe.01:27
cprofittCool.01:27
* cprofitt smiles01:27
* doctormo loves the irony of Disney, teaching kids to be nobel but as a company lacking virtue.01:32
* pleia2 just doesn't pay attention to the company01:33
cprofittwow... first time I have heard a person say Disney lacks virtue01:35
cprofittI know Steve Jobs is involved... and he is hellspawn, but what else has Disney done wrong?01:35
swoodyJobs in involved with Disney?01:36
swoodydamn :(01:36
cprofittYeah he owns a major portion of it I believe01:36
pleia2pixar01:36
pleia2he's the co-founder01:37
pleia2no, owner01:37
swoodywell that stinks :/01:37
doctormocprofitt: Support of infinate extentions to copyright despite every work being borrowed or stolen, an almost obsesive protection of "ip" and they kicked a guy out of Disney land because he looked like Santa (and they claimed Santa is a disney charicter), see timber the white lion for an interesting story.01:37
pleia2but he sold pixar to disney in 2006, so isn't really involved anymore afaik01:37
swoodynow I can't buy a lot of good movies :(01:37
swoodywell I retract my previous statement :)01:38
pleia2hehe01:38
pleia2amusing that debian names their releases after a movie made by steve jobs' company though01:38
doctormoPut simply, disney legal have social no morals. Very good business, very bad neighbours.01:38
swoodyhaha, yeah that is pretty funny01:38
doctormopleia2: Well only one, toy story.01:38
cprofittI thought the sale of Pixar to Disney was done partly in 'stock'01:39
pleia2doctormo: yeah, that's why I said "a movie"01:39
pleia2:)01:39
cprofittwhich is why Jobs owns Disney01:39
pleia2cprofitt: you might be right01:39
pleia2I didn't keep track of the details01:39
cprofitthttp://corporate.disney.go.com/corporate/bios/steve_jobs.html01:39
pleia2I am just excited about the princess and the frog!01:39
cprofittIn October 2005, Bob Iger replaced Eisner at Disney, and Iger quickly worked to patch up relations with Jobs and Pixar. On January 24, 2006, Jobs and Iger announced that Disney had agreed to purchase Pixar in an all-stock transaction worth $7.4 billion. Once the deal closed, Jobs became The Walt Disney Company's largest single shareholder with approximately 7% of the company's stock.01:40
pleia2ah, I see :)01:41
cprofittSorry... I am way to detail oriented01:41
swoodydangit again :(01:41
pleia2hehe01:41
cprofittit helps as a sysadmin, but gets in the way of friendly conversation01:41
swoodyI'm on an emotional-Disney-rollercoaster here :)01:42
* swoody officially founds the GNU Animation Studio01:42
cprofittJobs likely gets free rides when he goes to the park01:42
swoodyit will be FLOSS Disney-esque movies :)01:42
pleia2cprofitt: hehe01:42
cprofittswoody -- http://download.blender.org/peach/trailer/trailer_1080p.ogg01:43
doctormopleia2: I'll watch it, their films are always well produced.01:43
swoodycprofitt, haha, or at least a 10% off coupon for the gift shop ;)01:43
pleia2doctormo: yeah, and this one has been on the drawing board for *years*01:43
cprofittswoody or  a little less bandwidth intense - http://download.blender.org/peach/trailer/trailer_400p.ogg01:43
swoodycprofitt, that looks amazing :)01:44
swoodyI never knew about that!01:44
doctormoswoody: I hope you have a few million dollars kicking about to fund animated feature films :-D01:44
cprofittswoody -- for the full movie -- http://www.vimeo.com/108453701:45
cprofittstill not real long, but it shows what open source can do01:45
swoodydoctormo, oh I just might... I just might ;)01:45
swoodyno, really I don't :(01:45
pleia2cprofitt: aah, that's so cute01:45
cprofittI use Blender in some of my presentations...01:46
cprofittto get people off the idea that "Open Source" can not match proprietary software01:46
swoodythe animation quality rivals that of any professional movie01:46
cprofittI also use Firefox too...01:46
cprofittI got a huge laugh out of using Firefox at EdTech Day 200901:46
swoodyI truly hope that they come out with a full-length feature film, I would be ecstatic :D01:47
cprofittyeah... they could come out with a full-feature...01:47
cprofittand charge theaters for it01:47
swoodyI would completely support it :)01:48
swoodyand honestly, as long as it has the story-line to back it up, I don't think kids or parents would hesitate seeing it01:48
cprofittpleia2, thanks for commenting on my blog01:50
pleia2cprofitt: of course :)01:50
cprofittI am glad you did not find it offensive...01:51
pleia2I kinda vote "troll" for the commenter who thought it was01:52
doctormocprofitt: Hey I also commented.01:53
pleia2I am not sure how serious they were, but it kinda made the folks who actually do have legitimate complaints about things in the community/industry look bad01:53
cprofittYes, you did doctormo01:53
cprofittpleia's comments carry with it the opinion of a female though01:54
cprofittwhich has a greater impact in this particular subject01:54
doctormocprofitt: It does, although from my perspective from a class society, there is a tendancy to think of the poor in a similar way. One story.02:02
doctormohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Ihs241zeg02:04
swoodydoctormo, great link by the way :)03:16
swoodyI think I just fell in love with TED03:16
pleia2ted is great03:19
VantraxTED is good03:20
swoodyindeed :)03:20
swoodyyou two sound like you're trying to brainwash someone ;)03:20
swoody'TED is the way...'03:21
pleia2lol03:21
Vantraxhttp://www.ted.com/talks/sam_martin_builds_a_room_of_his_own.html03:21
Vantraxman spaces:P03:21
swoodyjust finished : http://www.ted.com/talks/yochai_benkler_on_the_new_open_source_economics.html03:21
swoodyand I hope to god he's right :)03:21
swoodyVantrax, I like that one :)03:26
swoodyand I happen to have a full-size unfinished basement... hmm...03:26
Vantraxlol03:27
Vantraxthat is one of the best ones around03:32
VantraxIm thinking about what I could do with min03:32
Vantraxmien03:32
Vantraxmine03:32
doctormoI downloaded about 300 ted talks using miro and I'll go through them one at a time04:46
Sajjad68hello all, how can i  see subtitles in movies? (ubuntu)17:36
swoodySajjad68, well I'm not too sure about this myself, but #ubuntu-learning isn't an official support channel, so you're probably not going to get an answer here :)17:41
Saj0577hey guys swoody where you at the meeting last nihgt?17:43
swoodySaj0577, hello, and yes I was :)17:43
Saj0577swoody: what was said? as i was not  able to make it cos as you know mondyas not normally that good for me :(17:44
* swoody facepalms...17:44
swoodyI forgot to set logging for all my channels in xchat :/17:45
swoodySaj0577, well, we're all agreeing to be kinder and put in effort to be more civil to one-another...17:46
swoody2) doctormo and bioselement have set a date of January for them to finish the guide for how to create written work for the UCLP...17:47
Saj0577k17:47
swoody3) doctormo and pleia like Disney movies ;)17:47
pleia2Saj0577: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/10/20/%23ubuntu-meeting.html17:47
swoodyah, thank you pleia2 :)17:48
pleia24) swoody doesn't like disney because of steve jobs17:48
Saj0577pleia2: thanks :D17:48
pleia2sure thing :)17:48
swoodyheh, true enough :)17:48
Saj0577got a question is anyone around to answer it cos if there isnt i wont bother asking lol17:53
swoodywell, ask Saj0577 :)17:54
Saj0577dont think you can answer it but will fire away17:54
swoodyit's np if I can't someone else will be able to answer it :)17:55
Saj0577on the UCLP is it possible as part of a test that i ask people to input a variable(password as such) into a text box and the correct answer is different per user?17:55
pleia2not really17:55
pleia2of our three release formats (live, irc and moodle) only moodle supports "tests"17:56
pleia2and I don't think it has such a things, all questions are static afaik17:56
Saj0577pleia2: okays, just as part of one of my lessons i had an idea, but im sure i can change it, or just do the same answer and if people want to cheat then let them get on with it lol17:56
doctormo_Saj0577: But there is no reason whyt there can not be a script as a test, there are existing curses based things that do that.17:58
Saj0577doctormo_: so you think with a bit of work I/the team, can implement it, because I think it would largely help with some of my lessons and the way i planning on teaching them.just helps me make them interactive17:59
doctormo_Saj0577: It would be helpful, but I don't think much needs programming, there are quiz libs already available.18:11
doctormo_I think18:11
=== doctormo_ is now known as doctormo
Saj0577doctormo: okays. thanks.18:13
Saj0577pleia2: still around?19:24
pleia2Saj0577: sort of (am at work, responses might be slow)19:24
Saj0577i trying to log back in on UCLP and it saying i need to register again if use my openid and i did not set a password for my username, or if i did i forgot it cos my normal ubuntu ones dont work19:25
pleia2looking at users now, hmm19:27
Saj0577i defo on there as saj0577 as cproffit edited my rights so can create courses etc19:27
pleia2I'm afraid moodle is not my forte19:29
pleia2ther eis a Saji N user19:29
Saj0577nah thats not me19:29
pleia2what's your email?19:29
Saj0577mine is saj0577   mu serid is 57 i think19:29
Saj0577saj0577@gmail.com  (or googlemail.com)19:30
pleia2ah, I see19:30
Saj0577userid**19:30
pleia2what does it do when you try to log in with launchpad.net/~saj0577 ?19:31
pleia2as openid19:31
Saj0577asks me to register again19:31
pleia2strange, it has https://launchpad.net/~saj0577 listed as an openid19:32
Saj0577il try again19:32
Saj0577it says i need to confirm my login to complete registration. :S19:34
Saj0577pleia2: sorted it i think 2ticks19:34
Saj0577yeah fixed all sorted :)19:36
pleia2good :)19:42
=== iainbuclaw is now known as mehasjustaboutgi
=== mehasjustaboutgi is now known as iainbuclaw
Saj0577for students to take courses do they already have to be a LP member?20:34
pleia2for moodle? it supports openid but it's not required20:36
Saj0577okay cheers. question answered :)20:37
charlymshi21:29
doctormohi charlyms21:30
charlymshi doctormo21:31
doctormocharlyms: Are you interested in learning materials?21:31
charlymssure21:33
charlymswhat kind of?21:34
ZachK_doctormo, hey man..how's it going?21:34
charlymsgreat21:35
=== paultag_ is now known as paultag
doctormoZachK_: Hey there22:54
ZachK_doctormo, yes22:54
doctormoZachK_: How are you?22:55
ZachK_doctormo, i'm ok23:37
doctormoZachK_: Good to hear, are you willing and able to get involved with educational courses?23:42

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