[00:01] <pleia2> cprofitt, Vantrax, doctormo, bodhi_zazen: meeting?
[00:01] <doctormo> yes
[00:01] <cprofitt> yes
[00:09] <Vantrax> tied up at work sorry
[00:14] <cprofitt> Vantrax, we are in meeting... if you are not...
[00:40] <Vantrax> sorry I wasnt able to participate that much
[00:41] <cprofitt> No problem Vantrax
[00:41] <cprofitt> welcome BiosElement
[00:41] <BiosElement> Hey cprofitt
[00:42] <doctormo> BiosElement: You just missed a meeting
[00:42] <swoody> hello BiosElement :)
[00:42] <BiosElement> Aye, I noticed. I've been down with a cold so I hadn't checked my mail like I usually do.
[00:42] <pleia2> aladdin++
[00:42]  * pleia2 hugs BiosElement 
[00:42] <pleia2> hope you feel better!
[00:43] <swoody> BiosElement, that stinks, sounds like a few people have come down with a bug :(
[00:43] <BiosElement> Ahh, I think I'm through the worst of it now. Hopefully I'll be able to spend more time working soon. >.>
[00:43] <swoody> good to hear :)
[00:48] <BiosElement> Well, and it also probably doesn't help that I've installed kubuntu as my current primary and am toying with it >.>
[00:49] <doctormo> I here H1N1 is going around
[00:50] <swoody> doctormo, indeed, a girl from the city my fiancee works in died from H1N1 just the other week :(
[00:51] <Vantrax> away at a meeting now
[00:53] <cprofitt> BiosElement, one important part of the meeting is that you and doctormo will be working on finalizing the process of creating courses using asciidoc, bzr and Moodle
[00:53] <cprofitt> and creating an on-line course to covert that process with contributors
[00:53] <cprofitt> with a target date of January
[00:54] <cprofitt> since you were not there I think it is fair to ask if you feel that is a reasonable time frame for completing that work
[00:56] <cprofitt> also BiosElement I am slowly creating an example Moodle course -- http://learn.ufbt.net/course/view.php?id=8
[00:57] <cprofitt> I added you as a non-editing teacher for that course BiosElement
[00:57] <cprofitt> so you can use it to assist with developing the process
[01:01] <cprofitt> BiosElement, just checking -- are you here?
[01:03] <cprofitt> doctormo, did you get the link to the course too?
[01:03] <doctormo> cprofitt: I did
[01:03] <cprofitt> k
[01:04] <cprofitt> cool...
[01:04] <cprofitt> I am not done, but you can see the progress...
[01:04] <doctormo> Sorry if I have a high ping, disney films will do that.
[01:04] <pleia2> hehe
[01:04]  * pleia2 looooves disney movies too
[01:27] <BiosElement> cprofitt: I'm around now. Ahh, I think that should be resonabe.
[01:27] <cprofitt> Cool.
[01:27]  * cprofitt smiles
[01:32]  * doctormo loves the irony of Disney, teaching kids to be nobel but as a company lacking virtue.
[01:33]  * pleia2 just doesn't pay attention to the company
[01:35] <cprofitt> wow... first time I have heard a person say Disney lacks virtue
[01:35] <cprofitt> I know Steve Jobs is involved... and he is hellspawn, but what else has Disney done wrong?
[01:36] <swoody> Jobs in involved with Disney?
[01:36] <swoody> damn :(
[01:36] <cprofitt> Yeah he owns a major portion of it I believe
[01:36] <pleia2> pixar
[01:37] <pleia2> he's the co-founder
[01:37] <pleia2> no, owner
[01:37] <swoody> well that stinks :/
[01:37] <doctormo> cprofitt: Support of infinate extentions to copyright despite every work being borrowed or stolen, an almost obsesive protection of "ip" and they kicked a guy out of Disney land because he looked like Santa (and they claimed Santa is a disney charicter), see timber the white lion for an interesting story.
[01:37] <pleia2> but he sold pixar to disney in 2006, so isn't really involved anymore afaik
[01:37] <swoody> now I can't buy a lot of good movies :(
[01:38] <swoody> well I retract my previous statement :)
[01:38] <pleia2> hehe
[01:38] <pleia2> amusing that debian names their releases after a movie made by steve jobs' company though
[01:38] <doctormo> Put simply, disney legal have social no morals. Very good business, very bad neighbours.
[01:38] <swoody> haha, yeah that is pretty funny
[01:38] <doctormo> pleia2: Well only one, toy story.
[01:39] <cprofitt> I thought the sale of Pixar to Disney was done partly in 'stock'
[01:39] <pleia2> doctormo: yeah, that's why I said "a movie"
[01:39] <pleia2> :)
[01:39] <cprofitt> which is why Jobs owns Disney
[01:39] <pleia2> cprofitt: you might be right
[01:39] <pleia2> I didn't keep track of the details
[01:39] <cprofitt> http://corporate.disney.go.com/corporate/bios/steve_jobs.html
[01:39] <pleia2> I am just excited about the princess and the frog!
[01:40] <cprofitt> In October 2005, Bob Iger replaced Eisner at Disney, and Iger quickly worked to patch up relations with Jobs and Pixar. On January 24, 2006, Jobs and Iger announced that Disney had agreed to purchase Pixar in an all-stock transaction worth $7.4 billion. Once the deal closed, Jobs became The Walt Disney Company's largest single shareholder with approximately 7% of the company's stock.
[01:41] <pleia2> ah, I see :)
[01:41] <cprofitt> Sorry... I am way to detail oriented
[01:41] <swoody> dangit again :(
[01:41] <pleia2> hehe
[01:41] <cprofitt> it helps as a sysadmin, but gets in the way of friendly conversation
[01:42] <swoody> I'm on an emotional-Disney-rollercoaster here :)
[01:42]  * swoody officially founds the GNU Animation Studio
[01:42] <cprofitt> Jobs likely gets free rides when he goes to the park
[01:42] <swoody> it will be FLOSS Disney-esque movies :)
[01:42] <pleia2> cprofitt: hehe
[01:43] <cprofitt> swoody -- http://download.blender.org/peach/trailer/trailer_1080p.ogg
[01:43] <doctormo> pleia2: I'll watch it, their films are always well produced.
[01:43] <swoody> cprofitt, haha, or at least a 10% off coupon for the gift shop ;)
[01:43] <pleia2> doctormo: yeah, and this one has been on the drawing board for *years*
[01:43] <cprofitt> swoody or  a little less bandwidth intense - http://download.blender.org/peach/trailer/trailer_400p.ogg
[01:44] <swoody> cprofitt, that looks amazing :)
[01:44] <swoody> I never knew about that!
[01:44] <doctormo> swoody: I hope you have a few million dollars kicking about to fund animated feature films :-D
[01:45] <cprofitt> swoody -- for the full movie -- http://www.vimeo.com/1084537
[01:45] <cprofitt> still not real long, but it shows what open source can do
[01:45] <swoody> doctormo, oh I just might... I just might ;)
[01:45] <swoody> no, really I don't :(
[01:45] <pleia2> cprofitt: aah, that's so cute
[01:46] <cprofitt> I use Blender in some of my presentations...
[01:46] <cprofitt> to get people off the idea that "Open Source" can not match proprietary software
[01:46] <swoody> the animation quality rivals that of any professional movie
[01:46] <cprofitt> I also use Firefox too...
[01:46] <cprofitt> I got a huge laugh out of using Firefox at EdTech Day 2009
[01:47] <swoody> I truly hope that they come out with a full-length feature film, I would be ecstatic :D
[01:47] <cprofitt> yeah... they could come out with a full-feature...
[01:47] <cprofitt> and charge theaters for it
[01:48] <swoody> I would completely support it :)
[01:48] <swoody> and honestly, as long as it has the story-line to back it up, I don't think kids or parents would hesitate seeing it
[01:50] <cprofitt> pleia2, thanks for commenting on my blog
[01:50] <pleia2> cprofitt: of course :)
[01:51] <cprofitt> I am glad you did not find it offensive...
[01:52] <pleia2> I kinda vote "troll" for the commenter who thought it was
[01:53] <doctormo> cprofitt: Hey I also commented.
[01:53] <pleia2> I am not sure how serious they were, but it kinda made the folks who actually do have legitimate complaints about things in the community/industry look bad
[01:53] <cprofitt> Yes, you did doctormo
[01:54] <cprofitt> pleia's comments carry with it the opinion of a female though
[01:54] <cprofitt> which has a greater impact in this particular subject
[02:02] <doctormo> cprofitt: It does, although from my perspective from a class society, there is a tendancy to think of the poor in a similar way. One story.
[02:04] <doctormo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Ihs241zeg
[03:16] <swoody> doctormo, great link by the way :)
[03:16] <swoody> I think I just fell in love with TED
[03:19] <pleia2> ted is great
[03:20] <Vantrax> TED is good
[03:20] <swoody> indeed :)
[03:20] <swoody> you two sound like you're trying to brainwash someone ;)
[03:21] <swoody> 'TED is the way...'
[03:21] <pleia2> lol
[03:21] <Vantrax> http://www.ted.com/talks/sam_martin_builds_a_room_of_his_own.html
[03:21] <Vantrax> man spaces:P
[03:21] <swoody> just finished : http://www.ted.com/talks/yochai_benkler_on_the_new_open_source_economics.html
[03:21] <swoody> and I hope to god he's right :)
[03:26] <swoody> Vantrax, I like that one :)
[03:26] <swoody> and I happen to have a full-size unfinished basement... hmm...
[03:27] <Vantrax> lol
[03:32] <Vantrax> that is one of the best ones around
[03:32] <Vantrax> Im thinking about what I could do with min
[03:32] <Vantrax> mien
[03:32] <Vantrax> mine
[04:46] <doctormo> I downloaded about 300 ted talks using miro and I'll go through them one at a time
[17:36] <Sajjad68> hello all, how can i  see subtitles in movies? (ubuntu)
[17:41] <swoody> Sajjad68, well I'm not too sure about this myself, but #ubuntu-learning isn't an official support channel, so you're probably not going to get an answer here :)
[17:43] <Saj0577> hey guys swoody where you at the meeting last nihgt?
[17:43] <swoody> Saj0577, hello, and yes I was :)
[17:44] <Saj0577> swoody: what was said? as i was not  able to make it cos as you know mondyas not normally that good for me :(
[17:44]  * swoody facepalms...
[17:45] <swoody> I forgot to set logging for all my channels in xchat :/
[17:46] <swoody> Saj0577, well, we're all agreeing to be kinder and put in effort to be more civil to one-another...
[17:47] <swoody> 2) doctormo and bioselement have set a date of January for them to finish the guide for how to create written work for the UCLP...
[17:47] <Saj0577> k
[17:47] <swoody> 3) doctormo and pleia like Disney movies ;)
[17:47] <pleia2> Saj0577: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/10/20/%23ubuntu-meeting.html
[17:48] <swoody> ah, thank you pleia2 :)
[17:48] <pleia2> 4) swoody doesn't like disney because of steve jobs
[17:48] <Saj0577> pleia2: thanks :D
[17:48] <pleia2> sure thing :)
[17:48] <swoody> heh, true enough :)
[17:53] <Saj0577> got a question is anyone around to answer it cos if there isnt i wont bother asking lol
[17:54] <swoody> well, ask Saj0577 :)
[17:54] <Saj0577> dont think you can answer it but will fire away
[17:55] <swoody> it's np if I can't someone else will be able to answer it :)
[17:55] <Saj0577> on the UCLP is it possible as part of a test that i ask people to input a variable(password as such) into a text box and the correct answer is different per user?
[17:55] <pleia2> not really
[17:56] <pleia2> of our three release formats (live, irc and moodle) only moodle supports "tests"
[17:56] <pleia2> and I don't think it has such a things, all questions are static afaik
[17:56] <Saj0577> pleia2: okays, just as part of one of my lessons i had an idea, but im sure i can change it, or just do the same answer and if people want to cheat then let them get on with it lol
[17:58] <doctormo_> Saj0577: But there is no reason whyt there can not be a script as a test, there are existing curses based things that do that.
[17:59] <Saj0577> doctormo_: so you think with a bit of work I/the team, can implement it, because I think it would largely help with some of my lessons and the way i planning on teaching them.just helps me make them interactive
[18:11] <doctormo_> Saj0577: It would be helpful, but I don't think much needs programming, there are quiz libs already available.
[18:11] <doctormo_> I think
[18:13] <Saj0577> doctormo: okays. thanks.
[19:24] <Saj0577> pleia2: still around?
[19:24] <pleia2> Saj0577: sort of (am at work, responses might be slow)
[19:25] <Saj0577> i trying to log back in on UCLP and it saying i need to register again if use my openid and i did not set a password for my username, or if i did i forgot it cos my normal ubuntu ones dont work
[19:27] <pleia2> looking at users now, hmm
[19:27] <Saj0577> i defo on there as saj0577 as cproffit edited my rights so can create courses etc
[19:29] <pleia2> I'm afraid moodle is not my forte
[19:29] <pleia2> ther eis a Saji N user
[19:29] <Saj0577> nah thats not me
[19:29] <pleia2> what's your email?
[19:29] <Saj0577> mine is saj0577   mu serid is 57 i think
[19:30] <Saj0577> saj0577@gmail.com  (or googlemail.com)
[19:30] <pleia2> ah, I see
[19:30] <Saj0577> userid**
[19:31] <pleia2> what does it do when you try to log in with launchpad.net/~saj0577 ?
[19:31] <pleia2> as openid
[19:31] <Saj0577> asks me to register again
[19:32] <pleia2> strange, it has https://launchpad.net/~saj0577 listed as an openid
[19:32] <Saj0577> il try again
[19:34] <Saj0577> it says i need to confirm my login to complete registration. :S
[19:34] <Saj0577> pleia2: sorted it i think 2ticks
[19:36] <Saj0577> yeah fixed all sorted :)
[19:42] <pleia2> good :)
[20:34] <Saj0577> for students to take courses do they already have to be a LP member?
[20:36] <pleia2> for moodle? it supports openid but it's not required
[20:37] <Saj0577> okay cheers. question answered :)
[21:29] <charlyms> hi
[21:30] <doctormo> hi charlyms
[21:31] <charlyms> hi doctormo
[21:31] <doctormo> charlyms: Are you interested in learning materials?
[21:33] <charlyms> sure
[21:34] <charlyms> what kind of?
[21:34] <ZachK_> doctormo, hey man..how's it going?
[21:35] <charlyms> great
[22:54] <doctormo> ZachK_: Hey there
[22:54] <ZachK_> doctormo, yes
[22:55] <doctormo> ZachK_: How are you?
[23:37] <ZachK_> doctormo, i'm ok
[23:42] <doctormo> ZachK_: Good to hear, are you willing and able to get involved with educational courses?