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hipitihopanyone using shepherd grabber successfully ?00:27
tmktwhat is that00:32
hadsAustralian perl grabber thingy00:33
hadsIs there a setting that would affect the font size of the mythvideo bookmark popup? My old frontend has an unreadably small font but other frontends don't.00:54
tmktfor movies?01:05
resno_is there a way to get the command center without install mythbunutu? like an installable program under ubunutu?01:41
mrandresno_, mythbuntu-control-centre package is installable on any ubuntu install.01:46
resno_mrand: ok. thanks!01:57
hipitihopa general question regarding grabbers, are they necessary in context of digital only channels which provide their own epg ? or what is the benefit02:15
foxbuntuhipitihop, depends on the reliability of EPG data, also grabbers generally provide more data in advance, i.e. Schedules Direct in the US provides 14 days at a time03:23
* hads agrees03:27
hadsWe get now/next EIT and 7 days via grabber03:28
foxbuntuhads, I think I might have just had a stroke, I noticed you agreed with me03:34
hadsheh03:49
hadsHave I been a bit negative? I don't want to come across like some of the people in #mythtv-users :)03:51
kaelesdoes 9.10 not support being a diskless server any longer, there is no option in the MCC for it03:53
hadsIs there not? mythbuntu-diskless-server is still a package at any rate so you could install it manually.03:55
kaelesok I'll just try that03:56
hadsltsp-build-client, ltsp-update-image and ltsp-update-kernels are the command you want to use after that.03:57
hadsOne of the mythbuntu guys may be able to tell you how to do it easier.03:58
kaelesyea, I've used ltsp in a openmosix cluster once, so that part isn't too bad, I just like the ease of clicking :P03:58
kaelesthanks03:59
hadsCOol04:00
kaelesgotten in such a bad habit of using root under debian sudo always throws me off :P04:00
kaeleswhen i have some time away from school and work i plan on trying to write a dvd::rip plugin for mythbuntu so that if you have diskless clients, it uses them all in cluster mode, since I have 4 boxes around the house (1 is a roomies too though :P)04:02
kaeleserr mythtv in general even04:03
MythBorkstupid question, is the AMD64 build of 0.22 mythbuntu 64bit native?04:46
MythBorkI've always used the 32 bit version in the past because I thought myth itself was still 32 bit, so being on a 64 bit system would actually slow it down04:46
hipitihopfoxbuntu: & hads: I see, thanks. Currently mythbuntu gets around 8 days from normal digital channel epg's auto magically (no idea how that works yet) but backend always reports "Last mythfilldatabase run started on 2009-10-20 12:04 and ended on 2009-10-20 12:04. mythfilldatabase ran, but did not insert any new data into the Guide for 1 of 1 sources. This can indicate a potential grabber failure. There's guide data until 2009-10-29 05:00 (9 days).05:01
hipitihop" not sure if I should try and debug05:02
neoneddyI'm having trouble getting my files to list (ls) from an Airdisk share, using a cifs mount, I cna browse the fileds if I know what they are, however ls shows nothing05:20
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HrymWHats the special with Mythbuntu? :z14:16
AliCharlesHi, When my system, Mythbuntu 9.04 (upgraded from previous version) restarts I see a page of black and white vertical lines where the Mythbuntu logo should be. Now while this doesn't affect my system performance me in any way I would like to know what is causing this graphic crash. Any ideas?15:53
superm1AliCharles, it's a bug with nvidia drivers interacting with usplash16:05
superm1it's fixed in 9.10 with a new usplash16:05
AliCharlesOK great thanks very much for your help.16:09
Alex3nderhi i need help setting up ivtv drivers and firmware perhaps or something to get my tv tuner card working... here are the logs and details of dmesg and lspci16:11
Alex3nderhttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/8640816:11
Alex3nderI am using ubuntu 9.10 btw...16:11
AliCharlesI have one other query, When I rip some dvds on the native myth ripper in perfect format the file length doesn't seem to be  completed recognised so when I try and search the dvd for a position it just stops at the incorrectly set marker.  I can watch the film to the end without searching with no issues. any ideas?  Myth 9.0416:15
orificium!auto-builds17:47
ZinnSorry I don't know about auto-builds17:47
orificium!autobuilds17:47
ZinnAuto builds are available for MythTV 0.21 (Stable) and MythTV Trunk 0.22 (Unstable, use at your own RISK) for Hardy (0.21 only), Intrepid, Jaunty, and Karmic (0.22 and 0.23-trunk).  See http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds for more info.17:47
orificiumSomething wrong with repos again?  Update Manager complaining about partial upgrade.17:47
tgm4883orificium, shouldn't be, whats it trying to hold back17:51
tgm4883and what repo are you trying to use17:51
orificiumfrom the autobuilds package - trunk ppa17:53
tmktanyone have issues with the LCD?17:58
tmktmy lcd is working17:58
tmktbut the only lcd ionfo i'm getting from mythlcdserver is the time17:58
tgm4883orificium, I can't help now, but the packages are all built18:00
orificiumsorry, I was having issues ssh/vnc into my box18:01
orificiumI was going to check to see which packages18:01
orificiummythtv mythtv-backend mythtv-common mythtv-database mythtv-frontend18:02
orificium  mythtv-themes mythtv-transcode-utils18:02
orificiummy box has been running 16 days. maybe I should give it a reboot18:03
tgm4883orificium, dont' go through with it, but what does it want to do if you do a dist-upgrade18:13
oobe<oobe> j19:26
oobe--- #flood :Cannot send to channel19:26
oobelol19:26
oobeover abuse19:26
orificiumtgm4883: that works19:34
orificiumtgm4883: why is there a difference between upgarde and dist-pgrade?19:34
orificiumpardon the typos19:34
orificiumit's removing some old themes is about all now19:35
tgm4883orificium, as much as I appreciate people testing development releases, if you don't know the differences between an upgrade and a dist-upgrade I'm not sure you should be running development releases19:36
tgm4883no offense19:36
orificiumgotta start learning sometime19:36
tgm4883the main difference being, doing a dist-upgrade will install new packages19:36
orificiumwhich is why I ask.19:36
tgm4883fair enough19:37
tgm4883so likely what happened, is there was a new dependency from one of those packages19:37
tgm4883doing a dist-upgrade will install that new dependency19:37
orificiumI ask because most of the time, update manager handles the new builds fine19:37
hadsThere's a lot of attitude in the mythtv community.21:41
hadsThankfully it's not really around these parts.21:42
tgm4883hads, how so?21:57
hadsI was hanging out in #mythtv-users which I haven't done for a while. There's quite an elitist attitude from some people.22:03
tgm4883hads, devs?22:03
tgm4883I mean, I can act more elitist if you want22:03
tgm4883my mythbox is bigger than your mythbox22:04
hadsYes, some devs.22:04
hadsNot ubuntu devs though22:04
ToeBeemy mythbox has *4* cores!22:04
ToeBeetoo bad it can't put them to good use and record in HD :(22:08
tgm4883ToeBee, record in HD, isn't most HD recording already compressed?22:08
ToeBee<insert DRM rant here>22:08
tgm4883ie, not cpu intensive?22:08
tgm4883ah yea, DRM :/22:08
tgm4883ToeBee, I think foxbuntu has you beat there as well, IIRC, he has dual quad cores22:09
mrandWe can snub HD.  Would that make us elitist?22:09
tgm4883ToeBee, no HD-PVR?22:09
ToeBeeiirc haupage announced a cablecard tuner that would work in non OEM PCs... but I think it will only work in windows 722:10
ToeBeeI have a tuner card that can do digital but all the digital HD channels I would want to record are encrypted22:11
tgm4883ah22:11
* tgm4883 does OTA22:11
tgm4883iirc, cablecards are under some strict restrictions22:12
ToeBeeyes22:12
tgm4883but I thought I heard a lot of that was lifted recently22:12
ToeBeeyes... for windows 7. I'm guessing they won't let linux in on the secret22:12
tgm4883well cable cards had support in XP as well22:13
ToeBeehttp://www.ehomeupgrade.com/2009/09/09/windows-7-end-users-can-now-add-cablecard-tuners-to-their-pcs/22:13
ToeBeeI thought only for OEM equipment though22:13
tgm4883like that means much22:14
* tgm4883 looks at all the OEM licenses of XP you could buy22:14
ToeBeeno, like they somehow checked some BIOS strings to verify that you were running an approved device. There was a hack around it but it required a specific chipset22:15
tgm4883iirc foxbuntu found a company that produces a cablecard tuner that had a linux dev kit22:15
tgm4883you would have to bug him about that though22:15
ToeBeehmm22:17
ToeBeemight look into that. Of course then I still have to pay my cable company a $200 cablecard "installation fee" plus I think $5/month22:18
tgm4883installation fee? fight that22:19
tgm4883it literally plugs into your TV?22:19
ToeBeeI think they have to enter some code and they require that to be done by a tech22:19
tgm4883cancel?22:20
tgm4883you could always go hulu ;)22:20
ToeBeeI'm seriously considering it22:20
ToeBeesave myself $75/month22:20
tgm4883do it22:20
tgm4883they will waive fees like crazy to keep you around22:20
ToeBeenow I just need boxee to release a 64 bit build!22:20
tgm4883or roll with the hulu desktop?22:21
ToeBeeor that22:21
tgm4883thats how I do it22:21
tgm4883have a link from my frontend22:21
ourtvhmmm, is there a link already telling me how to put boxee on the mythtv menu in karmic?22:21
ToeBeeboxee is nice because it does more than just hulu22:21
tgm4883boxee is crap because it doesn't support 64-bit machines22:22
ToeBeeheh well yes...22:22
tgm4883if it did, i'd write a plugin for MCC that would install boxee and configure a link for it22:22
ToeBeeourtv: I think I used this back on Jaunty: http://forum.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=424822:22
tgm4883but I won't do that until it supports 64-bit22:22
ToeBeethat'd be hot22:22
ToeBeeI believe the beta will support 64 bit... whenever that is released22:23
tgm4883we will see22:23
tgm4883oh, and it's closed source22:23
tgm4883I don't like that about it either22:23
tgm4883it's been a while since I ranted on boxee22:23
ToeBeejust the flash and hulu parts I think22:23
ToeBeewell I guess most of the rest are xbmc22:24
ToeBees/are/is/22:24
tgm4883yea, the parts that are open source are the parts they had to legally open source22:24
ourtvToeBee, when i upgraded the link i set up using that link disappeared and it looks to me like those instructions won't work for karmic22:24
tgm4883ourtv, the link?22:24
ourtvtgm4883, i meant the link in mythtv to fireup boxee from it's main menu.  poor choice to use link for both.22:25
tgm4883ah22:25
tgm4883ourtv, I'm at work, so don't have the time to hold your hand, but read that link above and look for the part where you add it to your menu22:26
tgm4883that part should be the same22:26
ourtvtgm4883, i'll see if i can muddle through22:32
ourtvi don't really think it's the same at all.22:53
ToeBeeI might give it a shot tonight after I get home23:01

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