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KaiForcetook his ball and went home00:00
lotus1231i dont need wisdome.. i got my own.. i need some hel with this new ubuntu env which is not same as version 7. so well never mind00:00
IdleOneGingerKid: change your pass and use the server window in the future :)00:00
t0slol00:00
GingerKidIdle, I realized my mistake.00:00
superdomelook guys if ubuntoo gonna be so great, how cum windows 7 is gunna be butter?00:00
bitmonkyou clearly lack wisdom as to how to solve this problem on your own.  you can get upset with me, or you could scream at the otherwise silence on your question. ;)00:00
GingerKidHow do I change it?00:00
bitmonksuperdome: you're right.  go and be happy.00:00
IdleOneGingerKid: /msg nickserv help00:00
superdomeasking a questin bitmonk00:01
t0sif i have a 64bit processor but only 3gb memory is it best to stick with 32bit or use 64bit ubuntu?00:01
IdleOnesuperdome: ask in ##windows00:01
bitmonksuperdome: honestly, i would say this: windows is half acceptable about one out of every seven years.  in that year they usually gain a lot of support of tech minded folks, then, you are screwed, and you have absolutely no ability to improve upon their failures.  if canonical mess up, you can rebuild the deb. ;)00:01
superdomeno such version of windows IdleOne00:01
KaiForcesuperdome:  both will handle 3GB fine00:01
KaiForcesorry t0s00:02
xadartHi, I'm having problems installing ubuntu. I get anywhere from 20% to 55% and it crashes. Has anyone heard of this problem?00:02
GingerKidOkay, so basically I'm unable to manually eject DVDs recently. I have to do it from my desktop because the button on the drive doesn't do anything. I'm also unable to rip DVDs. Can someone help?00:02
superdomebitmok, what is canonical00:02
t0sok thanks KaiForce00:02
IdleOne!ot00:02
bitmonkthe people who make ubuntu, superdome ;)00:02
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!00:02
bitmonkwell, the company - there are surely people helping that aren't part of the company..00:02
KaiForceGingerKid that is a hardware problem, straighten a paperclip and poke it in that tiny hole in the front of your drive to manually open it00:03
macosuperdome: canonical is the company that funds ubuntu development and sells support contracts for ubuntu00:03
superdomepeople heping 4 free bitmonk?00:03
macosuperdome: and negotiate with hardware vendors like dell & hp to get ubuntu on their hardware00:03
bitmonk(and employs a lot of developers that do stuff not already done for them by debian)00:03
bitmonk(and maybe some debian people?)00:03
resno_i am looking to do a network boot to a diskless computer. i want to use pxe, is there a way to setup a usb drive to initiate the connection?00:03
macoi'm pretty sure the majority of ubuntu developers do not work for canonical00:04
bitmonkresno_: pxe is done by your bios, you shouldn't need a usb system for it..00:04
GingerKidKaiForce, your suggestion doesn't work.00:04
bitmonkbios or network adapter, often one and same ish these days..00:04
superdomehow do they ern $ maco00:04
macosuperdome, bitmonk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers this is how one becomes an ubuntu developer. as you can see, it is open to the public00:04
WanHousebitmonk: thats Ubuntu ?00:04
KaiForceGingerKid:  more info than "doesn't work" might help me understand you00:04
bitmonki simply meant, a lot of people responsible obviously i slightly overspoke..00:04
superdomemaco, so cud i be 1?00:05
GingerKidI put the paperclip in and it still doesn't eject.00:05
GingerKidHowever, if I simply eject from the desktop, it ejects.00:05
resno_bitmonk: well, i am trying to get it setup. i know i have to configure the server to handle dhcp, currently I have a router to do it, and am not sure if I want to reconfigure the network.00:05
KaiForcedo you feel any resistance on the paperclip?00:05
macosuperdome: canonical earns money selling tech support contracts. of course you could become a developer!  i'm applying for developer status next month00:05
GingerKidOh, great.00:05
GingerKidI screwed something up.00:05
macosuperdome: if youre wondering how devs earn money... well, day jobs :) ubuntu is what i do in my spare time00:05
bitmonkresno_: you should be careful about using pxe on a widespread network.  in the past, when i've seen it used, it was a private provisioning network connected only to some switches on build stations..00:05
superdomemaco, what if im a developer & i don even know it?00:05
bitmonkyou set up at a build station, pxe boot to install, then plug into the real network.00:06
WanHousebitmonk: There are way many more outside coders that do their thing. I just got unemployed, maybe i can code some after christmas eve or later on the next year ?00:06
macosuperdome: just check out that wiki page00:06
resno_bitmonk: this is a closed network. i plan to setup myth on it, so the computer in the living room is quiter00:06
nerdy_kidcan only access my ftp server through sftp have been trying for months to fix this please help00:06
bitmonkif a home network you dont need to be so advanced, for sure, but you will need to reconfigure it to use dhcp to use pxe.. there is no static pxe configuration i know off..00:06
bitmonkof..00:07
KaiForcenerdy_kid:  can you re-explain your issue?00:07
resno_bitmonk: i should deactivate my routers dhcp and configure the "server" to do it?00:07
nerdy_kidKiaForce thanks for helping, i set up an ftp server (wu-ftpd) and i can only access it (from outside LAN) via the sftp client instead of the ftp client like i need00:08
KaiForcewhat do you mean from outside LAN?  from the internet?00:09
JoshuaP0x1what do you guys use to interface with your iPod? I want to DL podcasts and have them dynamically update and show up in my podcast folder on my iPod00:09
nerdy_kidKiaForce yes, from LAN i can use an ftp client to access the server, from the Internet i can only use an sftp client. i hope im not being vague...00:10
KaiForcewhat kind of firewall do you have?  what is your LAN network #?00:10
bitmonkresno_: perhaps, sure, that should work fine..00:10
KaiForceis the server plugged directly into the internet and has a public IP?00:10
bitmonkconsider buying a cheap switch and a second nic for the server, to segment your network, so your dhcp doesn't die when you service your server, so you can run dhcp out of the router for normal use, and on another subnet or a segment for the pxe stuff..00:11
bitmonkthere are many ways you can do it..00:11
nerdy_kidKiaForce i use ubuntu default firewall (ufw) which is off.  My routers firewall is configured to allow ftp access to my server.00:12
KaiForceok, so you port forwarded the FTP port to your server, and you can't connect to FTP from the internet - correct?00:12
nerdy_kidKiaForce correct00:13
speed_Hello everyone00:13
speed_i was wondering if anyone here could help me with webcamstudo00:13
resno_!hi | speed_00:13
ubottuspeed_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!00:13
speed_if any of you have experience with it00:13
KaiForcenerdy_kid:  likely case is that your ISP blocks port 21.  move your port forward to another port and try that.00:13
KaiForceif your firewall lets you DNAT from one port to another, otherwise you'll need to move ftp to another port on your server00:14
nerdy_kidKiaForce ok, thank you very much will try that00:14
KaiForcesorry to hear you've been beating your head against the wall on this one if it just the ISP playing games00:15
KaiForcemany will also block 25 outbound to prevent hijacked machines from spamming...00:15
nerdy_kidKiaForce yea, ill be ticked if thats why lol noone has been able to help me00:15
rdehlerlooking for a guide on how to get my system working with both ati and nvidia drivers, can someone point me in the right direction ?00:16
KaiForceyes right over there (points to internet)00:16
rdehler=\00:16
nerdy_kidKiaForce thanks a huge bunch :D youve been very helpful :)00:16
KaiForcenerdy_kid good luck00:16
speed_nvidia AND ati?00:16
rdehlercorrect00:16
speed_that doesn't make any sense00:16
rdehleri have onboard ATI and an nvidia pcie card, want to utilize all output00:16
speed_you can only have 1 primary video drivers00:17
speed_driver **00:17
rdehlerk, fine00:17
rdehleri can't even get the 3rd display to show though00:17
speed_sorry :(00:17
rdehleri'd settle for VESA00:17
ranohi00:17
speed_okay i've gotta go.00:18
speed_GL00:18
nightshadewhats up?00:19
Random832anyone know how to make the keyboard work properly with Xephyr?00:19
Random832geez i'm so lagged00:19
nightshadeno if\deas, compadre00:19
resno_bitmonk: is it possible to netboot wirelessly?00:20
nightshade*ideas00:20
enforce1resno_:  Its not a good idea, even if you could00:20
nightshadeyeah, somebody could hack you by mitm.00:20
resno_enforce1: why do you say its not a good idea?00:20
nightshademan in the middle attack00:21
resno_ah, i see00:21
maestrojedI am trying to troubleshoot apache. I have been asked to run "httpd -s" but I can't figure out where or how to do this on my Ubuntu install. I am trying "sudo /usr/sbin/apache2 -S". I get "apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}"00:21
nightshadeI just invented a new instrument.00:21
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nightshadetwo metal rings you put on your fingers, and clack them.00:22
othmanho to add a command at start up (like mount)00:22
buddhaim new to linux and i have ubuntu now but cant get audio to work what should i do?00:22
resno_buddha: are you using a laptop or desktop?00:22
nightshadeI think in inittab (/etc/inittab if it's like fedora)00:22
buddhadesk00:22
reubenright i got a question, thinking about buying a dell latitude e6400, heard about the wifi problems, just wandering if anyone knows when it comes to customising it, if you can choose a diff wireless card type, and would it solve the problem00:23
bitmonkresno_: it should be, but i wouldn't recommend to run a netboot install wirelessly00:23
dan1357 test00:23
resno_buddha: in terminal type alsamixer and make sure the volume is not muted00:23
nightshadenever heard of it.  is it a gaming laptop?00:23
reubennightshade: na buisness one from dell, using it for mainly web programming, but needs to be light for uni00:24
nightshadeI've heard that gaming laptops (especially dells) tend to have trouble with linux.  Just rumors tho.00:24
buddharesno: i dont think it is but i dont really know exactly00:24
nightshadenot really sure what to tell u dude, but best of luck  maybe these dudes know something more than I.00:25
kellyoi para todos00:25
reubeni know my mate has problems with his dell, because of broadcom wifi or summit00:25
nightshadesi?00:26
IdleOne!es | kelly00:26
ubottukelly: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.00:26
nightshadeoh, sorry00:27
nightshadethought somebody spoke espanol.00:27
kellyvc ta falando para me falar em espanhol ou ingle??00:27
enforce1Man in the middle attack be damned, wireless is slower than hell.00:28
enforce1No one likes slow netbooting00:28
nightshadekelly: native es ingles, mas yo habla un poco de espanol.00:28
etohello guys how would you partition00:28
enforce1use the gui!! :)00:28
nightshadecfdisk00:29
etoi wanted to know about sizes00:29
etoi have 160 gb drive00:29
enforce1Need more information!!00:29
kellynao sei00:29
enforce1Just swap and install?00:29
etoand i want as much as possible for home00:29
enforce1just use the wizard, it does a pretty bang up job00:29
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etoto have it on special partition00:29
nightshadeits really big already, doncha think?00:29
etolike how much is needed for system and programs00:30
jerknextdoori have an older laptop (thinkpad r51) that only has 756mb ram and i just realized that i dont thik 9.04 is using any of my swap.  what is the best way for me to check this and to fix the problem?00:30
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jribeto: depends on you.  I'd say 10-20gb is plenty00:30
enforce1For just a system disk, i think 20-30 gigs would leave plenty of space00:30
enforce1or what jrib said00:30
enforce1Its up to you.00:30
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jribeto: my / is 13gb for reference00:30
jribenforce1: 13gb used00:30
nightshadeis listening to the who.  rockin' out with my generation!00:30
enforce1oh00:31
jribargh, eto: 13gb used00:31
enforce1mines quit a bit larger, but it handles a lot of stuff for the hosue :)00:31
etonightfrog: enforce1 okay can i specify what partition will be home?00:31
jerknextdooreto:  my / is ~10gb and i rarely feel the crunch.00:31
reubenanyone recommend a light powerfull ish laptop which runs linux smoothly00:32
enforce1eto: you can. It gives you the option. If you're uncomfortable with it, make sure to use the LiveCD installer... should give you a bit more hand holding :)00:32
nightshadehow do I figure how big my hard drive is w/o opening?  (dont wanna mess w/ laptop)00:32
enforce1nightshade: Not sure what you mean. Not turning on the laptop?00:32
etookay i found it wish me luck00:32
enforce1eto: GL eto :-D00:32
nightshadei mean not opening up my laptop to look at the HD label, but using software00:33
nightshadeis kentucky from kentucky?00:34
RadicalRHm.00:34
RadicalRIs nightshade from night?00:35
nightshadeI'm from kentucky.00:35
RadicalRAH.00:35
RadicalRI see.00:35
nightshaderadicalR, lol...00:35
RadicalRI'm hoping someone can help with an issue I'm having.00:35
RadicalRhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1292669&highlight=windows+-read+ntfs <- my computer did this.00:35
nightshadewhat's up, rad?00:35
Jay_Matthewsbartle doo?00:35
fcuk112_how can i get a mouse-clickable alt-tab window?00:36
nightshadewhat's the problem, radicalR?00:36
RadicalRAlright.00:36
RadicalRI had two disks set up00:36
RadicalR1 OS and 1 Data00:36
RadicalRSo in case OS freaks out, I don't lose any data.00:37
jrib!enter | RadicalR00:37
ubottuRadicalR: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!00:37
RadicalRAh. Thanks.00:37
smithscan someone help with Host key verification failed00:37
nightshaderadicalR o...k...00:37
jribsmiths: maybe, but most likely only if you give some context...00:37
nightshaderadicalR: so, whats the problem?00:38
RadicalRAnyways, I had to boot into ubuntu and do a forced mount on that HD to access it. However, upon reboot back into Windows, it doesn't recognize it.00:38
smithsI had to reinstall my new server software ubuntu J and now when I try to connect with desktop ssh it gives me Host key verification failed00:38
jribRadicalR: what filesystem?00:38
Random832so does anyone know how to figure out why i can't resume from hibernate00:38
RadicalRSorry, I was typing. Chkdsk reads it fine and xubuntu can access the disk. NTFS.00:38
smithsI was connected in the past and ip has not cheanged00:38
jribRadicalR: why would you force mount...?00:38
nicatronTgHerro, can anyone help with wifi on Ubuntu server 8.04 LTS?00:38
Random832ever since i resized my swap drive (to make it bigger because i sometimes couldn't hibernate before if i had too much stuff open)00:38
RadicalRWell, I couldn't get the blasted thing up and I need access to it.00:38
nightshadejrib: maybe unrecognized FS00:39
jribRadicalR: there are warnings attached to forcing an ntfs partition to mount00:39
jribiirc the man page00:39
RadicalRHm. Well, I suppose it's a lesson learned. I'll just start backing up00:39
WafflesDrHey, I just manually installed eclipse, and now I am trying to get the link working so I can type eclipse from the command line and have it load. If I type "whereis eclipse" it points to /usr/local/lib/eclipse. I have it as a link to the actual file, but it doesn't work. Any suggestions?00:40
smithsWhen I connect using terminal in desktop I get Warning: the RSA host key for 'ttsmith.dyndns.org' differs from the key for the IP address '216.110.244.50'00:40
smithsOffending key for IP in /home/smiths/.ssh/known_hosts:200:40
smithsMatching host key in /home/smiths/.ssh/known_hosts:300:40
smithsAre you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)  but if I say yes can connect00:40
FloodBot1smiths: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.00:40
jribWafflesDr: "doesn't work"?00:40
smithswhen I try to use places connect to server it gives me host key fail00:40
RadicalRAlthough, this is the first time I mounted a NTFS partition and had this happen to me. So it struck to me rather odd that it would happen like that.00:41
WafflesDrjrib, when I type eclipse it comes back eclipse: command not found00:41
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RebelZerosmiths, open the known_hosts file and remove the offending entries, lines 2 and 3. when you reinstalled the server os, it was given new RSA keys.00:41
ClaygI've been out of it for a while.  Do people not listen to podcasts on ipods anymore? I can't seem to find a way to download podcasts, only listen to them on the computer00:42
jribWafflesDr: what do you mean by "I have it as a link to the actual file"?00:42
nightshade[musical note] Join together with the band! [musical note]00:42
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RadicalRBacking up these files are going to be fun. There goes the rest of my night.00:42
RebelZerosmiths, since the new RSA keys don't match the old ones, SSH is letting you know it's not quite the same server00:42
nicatronTgHere's my problem: I just installed Ubuntu 8.04 (server edition) on a basically blnd box, but I need to get it on the network. I got the driver running using ndiswrapper, tested it, it responds to iwconfig, and I can scan networks, but I'm not sure how to actually connect. The other thing is wpa, do I need to manually install the wpa_supplicant? Is there a decent tutorial on wpa wifi in a server install? It's been around a year00:43
nicatronTgand a half from the time I last dealt with console only wifi configuration.00:43
smithsthat is the file on my client pc right00:43
smithsI have deleted line 2 but it never mentioned line 3 in the forum post00:43
RebelZerosmiths, correct... one line was set to the IP while the other was set for the host name, you'll need to delete both00:44
WafflesDrjrib, I first used ln to make a link to the file, but when that wasn't working I opened two Nautilus windows in sudo and drug the eclipse file over, then use "Link Here". I did this to the desktop and I can double click it and it runs fine.00:44
jribRadicalR: what I said is just my guess.  I have no idea if you can somehow recover00:44
jribWafflesDr: dragged it where?00:44
WafflesDrjrib, I dragged it to /usr/local/lib00:44
jribWafflesDr: /usr/local/lib isn't in the default path...00:44
RadicalRWell, I did mention that xubuntu can read it fine.00:45
WafflesDrjrib, when I do whereis eclipse it returns /usr/local/lib/eclipse00:45
RadicalRSo I'm thinking something went wrong with the MBR. But I don't feel like messing with that.00:45
smithswhat is the command for terminal when I do searches for known_host I cannt find the file00:45
jribRadicalR: you might try ##windows too00:45
enforce1RadicalR: ugh, MBR mucking isn't fun00:45
nicatronTgRadicalR, try the ultimate GRUB boot disk00:45
RebelZerosmiths, at the terminal just type: gksudo gedit ~/.ssh/known_hosts00:45
RebelZerosmiths, my bad00:46
RebelZerosmiths, you don't need gksudo00:46
jribWafflesDr: use /usr/local/bin00:46
RebelZerosmiths, at the terminal just type: gedit ~/.ssh/known_hosts00:46
WafflesDrjrib, how do I change it?00:46
smithsgoing to try it now00:46
jribWafflesDr: delete the symlink you made and make a new one00:46
nightshadeRadicalR: apt-get install fdisk.  It's like cfdisk, but it's got more features (maybe it comes with ubuntu, but I haven't had much chance to fool with it.) and I remember there was something there that fixes the mbr.00:46
apersondoes anyone have any guides suggestions regarding how to setup netbooting?00:47
nightshadeit does come with fedora00:47
jribWafflesDr: make sure you type "hash -r" after doing so before testing "eclipse"00:47
serp__hi. when does clojure make it into ubuntu?00:47
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nightshadeserp_, what?00:47
* jrib doubts it's an mbr issue00:47
nicatronTgAnyone able to help or what?00:47
WafflesDrjrib, alright let me try it out. Thanks.00:47
serp__nightshade: it seems clojure is not in the ubuntu repositories00:48
nutterpccould someone pls message me the entry for ppa.launchpad, redid my system last night and forgot to save it (sources.list00:48
nightshadehold it, what's clojure?00:48
jribnutterpc: there's no such animal00:48
nutterpcdamnit, lol00:48
smithswere would I find that ~/.ssh/known_hosts when looking through gui00:49
jribnutterpc: there are several ppa's and if you visit one's page on launchpad it lists the apt line00:49
serp__nightshade: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clojure00:49
nightshadebrb reading00:49
nicatronTgHere's my problem: I just installed Ubuntu 8.04 (server edition) on a basically blnd box, but I need to get it on the network. I got the driver running using ndiswrapper, tested it, it responds to iwconfig, and I can scan networks, but I'm not sure how to actually connect. The other thing is wpa, do I need to manually install the wpa_supplicant? Is there a decent tutorial on wpa wifi in a server install?00:49
nutterpcahhh k, one tic then00:49
jribsmiths: ~ means /home/USERNAME00:49
jodeWhat is a good vnc client?00:49
jribsmiths: view -> show hidden files since .ssh is hidden00:49
ClaygI've been out of it for a while.  Do people not listen to podcasts on ipods anymore? I can't seem to find a way to download podcasts, only listen to them on the computer00:50
WafflesDrjrib, remaking it worked. I'm not sure if I used the -s command last time. Thanks for the help.00:50
nightshadehttp://riddell.us/tutorial/clojure/clojure.html00:50
stephansgpg: keyserver timed out00:50
stephansgpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error00:50
gletobAnyone else always have problems adding keys from the Launchpad PPAs00:51
awmcclainDoes cron recursively search cron.daily? If I put a symlink into a directory with a bunch of scripts I want to run, would it run them?00:51
nicatronTgHere's my problem: I just installed Ubuntu 8.04 (server edition) on a basically blnd box, but I need to get it on the network. I got the driver running using ndiswrapper, tested it, it responds to iwconfig, and I can scan networks, but I'm not sure how to actually connect. The other thing is wpa, do I need to manually install the wpa_supplicant? Is there a decent tutorial on wpa wifi in a server install?00:51
stephansFYI Ubuntu key servers are not working.00:51
nightshadeserp: http://riddell.us/tutorial/clojure/clojure.html00:51
smithsthanks00:51
gletobThat sucks00:51
serpeh?00:51
gletobWhy?00:51
serp__nightshade: sure... but I'd rather see it in the official repository =)00:51
serp__saves me the trouble of maintaining it00:51
gletobThey having issues?00:51
nightshadesorry serp, didn't know there were two of you00:51
serptoo many serps00:52
serp__serp: grr *bite*00:52
serp:)00:52
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nicatronTgAnyone?00:52
nightshadeserp__: /nick [new nick]  it'll be less confusing00:53
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nightshadekeyboardknight, that's even more catchy!00:53
nightshadenice00:53
keyboardknight:)00:54
keyboardknightso how do packages come to live in the ubuntu repositories?00:54
gletobkeyboardknight, You've got to find the Nexus point. duh00:54
GregoryCkeyboardknight:, in a joking sense: "when two compilers love each other..."00:55
nicatronTgSo nobody can help?00:55
nicatronTgMk00:56
nicatronTgWell00:56
nicatronTgCya00:56
nicatronTg#unhelpful00:56
FloodBot1nicatronTg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.00:56
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hey_joei have i seemed to have deleted the /etc/opt/IDEALX folder with some default samba configs needed to setup ldap... how do i apt-get remove/install smbldap-tools to reinvent this directory and its fellows?00:56
Random832i can't resume from hibernate ever since i resized my swap drive, can anyone help me?00:57
hey_joeRandom832, mkswap?00:58
smithsi deleted lines 2 and 3 and it still gives me The authenticity of host 'ttsmith.dyndns.org (216.110.244.50)' can't be established.00:58
smithsRSA key fingerprint is 42:0a:f6:d2:c9:71:c4:34:ec:62:96:e5:f1:d5:14:43.00:58
smithsAre you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)?00:58
KB1JWQRight.  So say "Yes"00:58
KB1JWQThen it'll stop asking.00:58
hey_joesmiths, what are we trying to do here? openvpn/cached rsa keys?00:58
Random832@hey_joe, the swap drive works fine when i'm running - it even hibernates to it fine. it won't resume properly00:59
hey_joeRandom832, have you tried re issuing the mkswap command?00:59
Random832huh? what would that accomplish00:59
smiths ssh administrator@******00:59
Random832the swap drive itself is fine. it's active _now_ and the space shows up00:59
hey_joeperhaps something important on the swap drive was delete...00:59
hey_joeand maybe just operating it as a swap is not enough.. in fact recreating the swap structure on the partition/drive?01:00
Random832that doesn't make sense01:00
Random832but the fact that it _shows up_ as the proper amount of swap space, means that the swap structure _is_ there01:00
hey_joemaybe the restore point is kept on the swap drive in an area only access (or perhaps lost after resize)?01:00
hey_joeRandom832, under what assumption?01:00
smithsif I say yes in terminal I can connect but I can no longer connect using connect to server in places01:00
Random832mkswap was run by gparted, i saw the log. running it again isn't going to do anything01:00
hey_joeexcellent..01:01
hey_joethen that answers the first question.01:01
hey_joeso what does your swap have to do with it not resuming?01:01
nightshadehey joe, what's up?01:01
Random832um... do you not know how hibernating works on linux?01:01
Random832the swap drive is where stuff gets stored01:01
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Random832now, it _hibernates_ fine which is the weird thing... it just doesn't resume properly01:01
nightshadethe swap drive is used as virtual ram.01:02
Random832the uuid did change after i resized it, but i fixed it in fstab01:02
nightshadeie. it gets erased every time the computer restarts01:02
nightshadeam I right?01:02
Random832@nightshade, um, i JUST explained this01:02
nightshadeoh01:02
nightshadesorry01:03
Random832when the computer is _hibernating_, the kernel is supposed to pick up that fact when it restarts and load stuff off the swap drive01:03
hey_joeomg.01:03
smithscan I just delete all lines in known_host01:03
nightshadeoooohhh...01:03
hey_joeRandom832, this is impossible to diagnose without knowing your hardware set.01:04
nightshadeis that the end of today's lesson, Random832-sensei?01:04
hey_joesimply asking this question is like asking why we have thumbs.01:04
nightshadelol01:04
hey_joewhat does the LOG say?01:04
Random832i don't even know what to look for in the log01:05
hey_joeah01:05
Random832it's not a hardware thing - it was working before and my hardware hasn't changed.01:05
hey_joei would start with the time of the said hibernate call01:05
hey_joeright, however not knowing your hardware kinda limits things as well..01:06
hey_joedoes it happen all the time, or only after short/long periods of time?01:06
hey_joehave you made any bios changes?01:07
Random832all the time and no01:07
hey_joechanged the uid and update-initramfs -u?01:07
CrOnOshi any one have tryed karmic ? live cd ask for passwd to mount drives any ideas?01:07
smithsthanks for the help I needed to delete all the lines in known_host01:08
smithsall is well01:08
hey_joeCrOnOs, most likely a sudo action, which would require the stock users password..01:08
nightshadeoh, ubottu...01:09
hey_joeCrOnOs, usually not a root password, hence the sudo action01:09
hey_joeRandom832, that fix it?01:09
nightshadebring me lemonade...01:09
nightshadeand... THE WRATH OF BONG!!!01:09
smithsnow could someone help me with my raid config?01:09
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hey_joesmiths... whats up?01:10
CrOnOsmm ok i try that then01:10
hey_joemdadm?01:10
Random832um, i don't know, as i obviously haven't tried that (since i'd have disconnected from irc to hibernate)01:10
nightshadebring me your finest herb so that I may smoke it01:10
smithsmd0 : active raid1 sdb1[1] sda1[0]01:10
Random832i'm looking at that update-initramfs01:10
smiths      976759936 blocks [2/2] [UU]01:10
smithsI went through setup in a turtorial it is just for storage and the lonely raid in system01:10
hey_joesmiths, looks like a raid 1, with 2 disks... seems to be working..01:11
hey_joeneed to mount it, and create a filesystem01:11
smithsnot sure if it mounted01:11
smithsthat is it I had problems there01:11
smithsthe command that was in the tutort didnt work01:11
nightange1hey im having trouble logging into yahoo on pidgin can some one help01:11
hey_joedo a "df" command01:11
hey_joeand see if you have a /dev/md something listed01:11
nightshadeweed's so damn expensive, dude.  I neez money.01:11
nightshade* needz01:12
hey_joeif not add this to bottom of /etc/fstab >> /dev/md0 /mount_folder auto defaults 0 301:12
smithsjust do sudo df?01:12
hey_joesmiths, yep01:12
smithsunused devices: <none>01:12
smithsadministrator@ubuntu:~$ sudo df01:12
smithsFilesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on01:12
smiths/dev/sdc1             18833072    999916  16876488   6% /01:12
smithstmpfs                  1030904         0   1030904   0% /lib/init/rw01:12
FloodBot1smiths: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.01:12
smithsvarrun                 1030904        76   1030828   1% /var/run01:12
nightshadesmiths: Could you send me a check in the mail for $20?  I'll pay you back.  scout's honor.01:13
hey_joeomg.01:13
hey_joei guess we will never know01:13
smithslol what is with the flood01:13
hey_joedont paste here.01:13
smithsLOL01:13
FFForeverdo u guys have anything that will run on 64mb of ram?01:13
nightshadeFFForever: DOS?01:14
smithshey joe01:14
smithsyou still interested in helping01:14
hey_joesmiths, add this line to /etc/fstab >> /dev/md0 /mount_folder auto defaults 0 301:14
hey_joeand then type "sudo mount -a"01:15
Blueytrying to find if there is a 64 bit version of 9.10 Beta - this didn't seem to have it:  http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/beta01:15
hey_joeyou might have to use "sudo pico /etc/fstab" to edit the file.. or more unix friendly "sudo vi /etc/fstab"01:15
hey_joehttp://bfish.xaedalus.net/2006/11/software-raid-5-in-ubuntu-with-mdadm/ >> best how-to out there...01:15
hey_joeskip to the line that reads "sudo echo "DEVICE partitions" > /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf" and go from there.. its like 3 commands from that point..01:16
smithsI have been using vi01:16
jrib!karmic | Bluey01:16
hey_joebest of luck01:16
ubottuBluey: Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 29th, 2009 - Karmic is BETA and MAY break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+101:16
nightshadeDOS will fit anywhere.01:16
Blueyjrib: that doesn't tell me if it's 64 bit - but thanks.01:16
nightshade[whispers to FFForever] anywhere...01:16
nightange1im trying to log in to yahoo on pidgin and having problems doing so can some one help01:16
jribBluey: it does tell you that the proper place to ask your question is not here01:16
smithsthanks I have to put the kid to bed then I will try that out :)01:17
Miles__How can I install a program through a tarball in Ubuntu?01:17
the_dark_warrioI'm writing a document in OpenOffice and when I export to pdf the images get poor quality, although in OpenOffice they are OK. Any hints?01:17
Blueyalrighty then01:17
jodeHow do I connect to a VNC server that is not on a local network?01:17
voxnightange1: yahoo has changed their servers - only the yahoo instant messenger works currently, but a fix is being worked on01:18
jimmy51_homeI just added a second monitor to my machine.  I see I can enable it as Separate X Screen or TwinView.01:18
jimmy51_homewhich should I do, and why?01:18
nightange1well that would explain it01:18
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nightange1would i b able to use yahoo IM on ubuntu01:18
voxnightange1: depends if yahoo make a linux version01:19
nightange1so only way to know is to DL and find out eh??01:19
Random832you can connect to it with pidgin even if there's no official client though01:19
JPSmanwhat sort of technique can I do to find/locate files that are only 4 characters long?01:19
JPSmanis there some regular expression magic I dont know about?01:20
jribJPSman: the name or the contents?01:20
JPSmanname01:20
nightange1well tell that to my IM here cause its not conecting01:20
crazy2k[  533.830024] usb 4-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110 <---- Does anyone know what these errors mean?01:20
jribJPSman: .... I guess?01:20
crazy2k(full dmesg output here: http://pastebin.com.ar/5412)01:20
voxRandom832: no, you cant anymore.01:21
jribJPSman: tere's proper syntax of course but you'd have to figure out the right escaping which isn't worth it in this case01:21
Random832@vox, eh?01:21
Random832since when?01:21
voxRandom832: 4 days ago?01:21
voxRandom832: the ONLY client that will connect is the official yahoo messenger.01:22
resno_is it possible to dual netboot?01:22
GregoryCand Trillian, in windows01:22
Random832i don't think there's an up to date official one for linux - there's an ancient one from like five years ago01:22
voxGregoryC: trillian has stopped working aswell01:22
voxas has bitlbee and all the others01:23
jribJPSman: if you want to use find, you would just do ???? with -name01:23
carteris this where i go to for system help?01:23
GregoryCasof now, it shows i'm connected to two yahoo useraccounts01:23
voxGregoryC: serious?01:23
GregoryCyes01:24
voxo_O01:24
voxdidnt work for me an hour ago01:24
jribcarter: it is, just ask your question01:24
GregoryCbut i'm beta testing Trillian Astra01:24
voxthat's probably why01:24
nightange1whats that01:24
GregoryCworks great, lots of improvements01:24
JPSmanjrib: its "finding" all of the files, I just want to find the ones that are only 4 long.  is 'proper escaping' the characters necessary for this?01:25
nightange1trillian astra??01:25
Miles__How can I install a program through a tarball in Ubuntu?01:25
jribJPSman: I gave you two ways.  What exactly are you typing?01:25
jribMiles__: same way as any other distro.  But what are you installing?01:25
GregoryCnightange1: it's a next-gen multiprotocol im/irc/chat client for windows01:25
Miles__Tucan Manager, jrib.01:25
Miles__And I'm new to Linux.01:26
nightange1so it wot work on a lunix based system01:26
nightange1wont***01:26
WanHouseDo you want to know what kills the Swine/Bird/Cat/AnyFlu virus ? iTS Salt :)01:26
WanHouseOr Rhino01:26
JPSmanjrib: well, im using the search for files program, and I tried ???? in the name contains field, but thats finding all files01:26
jodeCan anyone here tell me how to connect to connect to a VNC server not on a local network?01:27
jribMiles__: it's in the repositories in karmic it seems, but getdeb.net also has a deb...01:27
GregoryCnightange1: not unless you had great experience with wine, or with virtualization01:27
jribjode: what *exactly* are you typing?01:27
jribargh01:27
WanHouseRhino Flu beeing the most comon flu kiling atleast a few thousand people that dont feel so good in each country.01:27
WanHousekilling (ehm)01:28
jribJPSman: I have no idea how that program works.  Use 'find' on the command line01:28
voxnightange1: i'd imagined it'll be fixed in the next week or so01:28
nightange1i have wine but im new to the Linux  world and im still in my treaing wheels01:28
jodejrib: I am trying to connect to a remote desktop that is not on a local network01:28
nightange1training***01:28
JPSmanjrib: ok, thank you01:28
jribjode: I meant to send that message to someone else01:28
nightange1ok here is anouther question that i have01:29
nightange1how do you start your own IRC01:29
nightshadeI have a question!01:29
carteri cant get the postgressql server started wont on boot or man on any kernal version what can i do?01:29
MoonE ae pessoal01:29
Miles__nightshade, It's like hosting any other server.01:30
MoonTem brasileiro aqui?01:30
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GregoryCnightange1: do you mean irc client, or create a new room?01:30
MoonAcho que não...01:30
jrib!br | Moon01:30
ubottuMoon: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.01:30
nightshadeis weed more expensive or less expensive in mexico/general middle america?01:30
MoonFui01:30
christopherhow do I kill a process in "Uninterruptable sleep"?01:30
nightange1like some where that a buch of my buddies from games can chat while playing so that we have real time messaging01:31
nightshademoon!  Es weed mas o menos expensivo en mexico?01:31
cartermust be in the wrong place01:31
nightange1so idk i just think an empty channel/ room01:32
CocoabeanI have 1 actual interface on my Ubuntu machine. I have 4 vlans and an untagged default vlan, all of which are specified to use DHCP in /etc/network/interfaces. The problem is, i end up with multiple default gateways, one for each DHCP server that gives me one for the respective VLAN interface. What is the most graceful way to take care of this?01:33
nightshademoon, que es el precio del una diez-sack?01:34
GregoryCnightange1, i'm sure you can find tutorials on the commands and uses for irc on many websites, you just need to do the search. trust me, it's all there01:34
nightshadeen mexico01:35
mgv2how can i fix a microphone of a laptop that works very low to the point of not hearing anything?01:36
matu_Hi, please tell me what i need to do to put my /usr partition to my SD CARD and to get it working.01:39
The2morrowManmgv2, A lot of laptop microphones exhibit that behavior. You have to set its recording level to maximum, and then apply a boost of between 10 and 40 db - couldn't tell you how to do that in linux, I'm afraid.01:39
matu_is anyone able to get it working ?01:40
coz_matu_,   I just arrived...get what working ?01:40
matu_<matu_> Hi, please tell me what i need to do to put my /usr partition to my SD CARD and to get it working.01:40
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matu_using Mandriva it directly works but freeze the boot system using ubuntu...01:41
The2morrowManIs Ubuntu 9.10 supposed to bring anything really nifty to the server arena, besides cloud computing integration?01:41
The2morrowManmatu_, Why would you throw /usr on an SD card?01:42
matu_even the netbook remix is unable to install /usr to an sd card and get a proper boot01:42
shawn_With a dual display if I configure it for two x screens is there any way to make it so I can drag windows from one screen to the next?01:42
matu_because it is incomparably faster...01:42
coz_matu_,   well I am not sure but I did find this    http://gkahla.net/blog/2009/02/13/sd-card-for-usr-on-dell-mini9/01:42
The2morrowManmatu_, Just curious, what file system did you use?01:43
nightange1GregoryC: oh come on you man your gonna make me do  all the work when :P01:43
christopherhow do I kill a process with status D "uninterruptible sleep"?01:44
nooneelsehello everybody, my ALT button is not working on ubuntu só I can't alternate between windows, even it's already set up on keyboard shortcuts, what this could be ?01:44
coz_nooneelse,  kde or gnome01:44
nightange1mean**01:44
nooneelsecoz_, gnome01:45
matu_thanks a lot i will give it a try tomorrow01:45
matu_ext4 without the journal mod disabled from about 6months01:45
coz_nooneelse,  did this happen after updating ?01:45
matu_The2morrowMan,01:45
GregoryCnightange1: well, i never had need to create my own room, so i don't know01:45
matu_it is still working without any problem if it is what you want to know01:46
coz_nooneelse,   you might want to go into system/preferences/keyboard   let me find link01:46
coz_nooneelse,    http://www.zolved.com/synapse/view_content/28017/Fix_your_right_Alt_key_in_Ubuntu    see if that helps01:46
The2morrowManmatu_, At least you disabled the journal. :) That was my main point.01:46
matu_ed01:46
matu_thank you bye bye01:46
matu_no i did not01:46
The2morrowManmatu_, Oh. Well, then you're going to fry your SD card. ext4 doesn't take into account the wear-levelling required to utilize flash media safely.01:47
matu_without the journal mod disabled... i want to know with the ext4 journal mod enable01:47
matu_sorry01:47
matu_argh sorry i am tired >_<01:47
nooneelsecoz_, it happened after i've installed compiz_manager01:47
matu_i meant using ext4 journal01:47
The2morrowManmatu_, Okay, you currently have ext4 journalled on the SD card?01:48
nooneelsecoz_, and it's not the right-alt it's the lef-alt01:48
matu_raelly i dont care because i paid my 8GB ultra fast sd card 20$ 6months ago01:48
Wolvenhavenis there a virtualbox channel? I can't find one in the channel listings01:49
IdleOne#vbox ??01:49
The2morrowManmatu_, Okay, well, have fun buying new hardware because you don't care. My assistance ends now.01:49
Wolvenhaventhanks01:50
m0r0nCan anyone offer me guidance on installing Ubuntu on a flash drive?01:51
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squisherhi, does anyone know if ubuntu disables ctrl-alt-backspace in X? If so, what's the best way to enable it again?01:51
nooneelsecoz_, I solved right now changing the effects from normal -> extra -> normal01:51
coz_nooneelse,  cool01:52
nooneelsemaybe some compiz plugin had disabled when I installed it01:52
IdleOne!usb | Arsin01:53
ubottuArsin: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent01:53
ArsinI want to be able to read the files within Ubuntu in windows, say I don't boot into Ubuntu, and go into windows or mac, I want to be able to read everything without adding anything to the PC/Mac01:53
Arsinm0r0n = arsin01:53
mgv2the2morrowman- ok thanks - in windows it was the same01:54
Wolvenhavenarsin, make an ntfs partition, and mount it in ubuntu, windows will see it as well and it can be your "shared" folder01:54
ArsinWolvenhaven: So I can't write Ubuntu on ntsf?01:54
Wolvenhavenubuntu can mount and r/w ntfs01:54
ArsinWolvenhaven: I mean, I can't install Ubuntu on NTSF01:55
Wolvenhavenor you can just mount your existing windows partition in ubuntu and do it the same way01:55
mgv2how do i set mic boost and mic level?01:55
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IdleOneArsin: maybe you are looking for wubi01:56
IdleOne!wubi | Arsin01:56
ubottuArsin: Wubi is an Ubuntu installer for Windows users that allows you to install and uninstall Ubuntu like a Windows application, in a simple and safe way. http://wubi-installer.org/support.php for troubleshooting. Please file bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug.01:56
Wolvenhaventhe only way i know of is to mount the windows partition in ubuntu01:56
ArsinIdleOne: Ya, I know about that, but I don't want to install anything on the PC's01:56
lluaall my desktop icons disappeared01:56
lluai can see them in the filee browser01:57
ArsinWIdleOne: What I'd like to accomplish is, write Ubuntu on all sectors of my flash drive, boot whenever I want from it, but also whenever I go to other peoples houses and I want to access my files on Ubuntu without installing anything on their PC01:57
ArsinWolvenhaven: Is that possible? Or are partitions my only option?01:58
IdleOneArsin: then look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent01:58
IdleOneArsin: that uses the usb stick without installing anything to the pc. provided the pc can boot from usb.01:58
altavatarI booted a new kernel (auto-update). Then one of my raid devices was gone.  I was able to resolve this by doing an mdadmn -Es > /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf && mdadm -As; but, shouldn't the boot procss do something similar itself?01:59
IpSe_DiXiThi, ubuntu's freaking out at boot "dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxx-xxx-xxx-x-xxx does not exist dropping to a shell" if i wait few minutes and type "exit" in this shell the system starts and it all works ok as usual, but one of my ext3 hard drives disappeared, ubuntu just does not see it, anywhere! checked menu.lst and fstab the uuids are the same, plus tried to mount this ext3 disappeared one manually but it says about it as well it doesnt exist... h02:01
IpSe_DiXiTelp!02:01
binraptWhen I try to use XChat with an SSL server it says: "unable to generate local ssl certificate" - what is this problem caused by?02:01
binraptDo I need to configure SSL for Ubuntu first? Using 9.04 with updates02:02
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Cocoabeanaltavatar: i think this is due to a module not being configured to automatically load in the new kernel02:03
rickasaurusthe problem with ubuntu is it works great as long as I don't want to do anything off the beaten path02:03
ArsinIdleOne: Say I were to partiton, how much spaces does Ubuntu take?02:03
rickasaurussometimes I miss knowing how my computer worked like when I ran gentoo02:03
binraptErr, sorry, "unable to get local issuer certificate"02:03
IdleOneArsin: on the pc installed it uses 3-4 GB.02:04
ArsinIdleOne: Is that with whatever programs comes with it, or is that just the base of Ubuntu02:04
IdleOneArsin: but you need I suggest minimum 10GB to allow speca for your files and updates. not sure how it works on usb02:04
IdleOneArsin: that is the default install02:05
IdleOneArsin: obviously the larger the usb drive the better02:06
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ArsinIdleOne:  Hm.. I guess I'll wait till 9.1 so whatever updates are in there are maybe a bit less space consuming, I have a 16gb but I want at least 5 in the windows and I want the programs I have currently on it too. Thanks for your help02:07
mgv2how do i set mic boost and mic level?02:07
mgv2how do i able to search and download edonkey?02:07
sblunixmgv2: Settings/Prefrences>>Control Panel>>Audio02:07
sub2k1Simple question: If I install Ubuntu 9.10 tonight, when the final version is released, will my system will update itself to the final build?02:08
sblunixsub2k1: yes02:08
Guest65732hi02:08
sub2k1lol cool.  I'm tired of waiting and i wanna play with it now.02:08
sblunixsub2k1: It's not a bad idea at all, considering the servers will be very slow on release day02:08
sblunixmgv2: Programs>>Add/Remove Programs>>eDonkey02:08
mgv2sblunix, i dont see an option to adjust the settings of level02:09
sub2k1sblunix: I've heard many great things about this upcoming release.  Are you using it right now?02:09
sblunixsub2k1: No, but I do plan on installing it within the next 24 hours, If you want to hear some feedback from the community, join channel #ubuntu+1 (the Ubuntu 9.10 support channel)02:09
mgv2i cant install amule because another program preventing it02:10
sub2k1sblunix, thank you very much02:10
sblunixmgv2: which program?02:10
sblunixsub2k1: no problem :)02:10
christopherhow do I kill a process with state code D "Uninterruptible sleep"?02:10
mgv2sblunix, i couldnt find a way to change the microphone level in the sound pard of the preferences02:10
sblunixchristopher: hold on one second whle I look that up02:11
mgv2sblunix, it doesnt tells which program02:11
sblunixmgv2: I'm sorry, I'm not very skilled when it comes to audiocards etc... why don't you try making a post on the forum?02:11
sblunix!forum02:11
ubottuThe Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.02:11
mgv2sblunix, people dont answer in the forum and i prefer the chat02:12
mgv2sblunix, here is better02:12
MrShroomhello! how stable is 9.10 beta atm? if i download it will i lose my actual files?02:12
sblunixmgv2: I'm sorry to hear that, no one here is very active right now, so joining #ubuntu-beginners-help might have more support02:12
sblunixchristopher: do you know the name of the process you want to kill?02:12
iarpchristopher: "kill -9 <pid>" not work?02:12
sblunixchristopher: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/kill-a-process-by-process-name-from-ubuntu-command-line/02:13
mgv2i didnt knew about it sblunix02:13
MrShroomchristopher: what do u want to kill?02:13
christopher1000     17946  6.5 20.0 728824 201104 ?       D    Oct18 113:15 /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.14/firefox02:13
sblunixchristopher02:14
sblunixin terminal02:14
christopheri can't start firefox because of this sleeping process02:14
sblunixsudo kill -9 firefox02:14
MrShroomchristopher: on therminal type xkill and then click on the window you want to close02:14
christopher134christopher@sousedstvi:~$ sudo kill -9 firefox02:14
christopherERROR: garbage process ID "firefox".02:14
iarpis a restart of the machine too long or?02:15
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MrShroomchristopher: is firefox still visual? i mean can u see the window02:15
sblunixMrShroom: 9.10 is fairly stable as it is a RC... You will lose all data you do not have backed up if you are doing a fresh install. If upgrading, I would still recommend backing up all your data. You may find more in-depth answers at #ubuntu+1 (The Ubuntu 9.10 support IRC channel)02:15
christopherMrShroom: no02:15
MrShroomchristopher: then what is the problem?02:16
sblunixchristopher: run the "System Monitor"02:16
ArsinHow do I delete a user02:16
MrShroomsblunix: how probable is to lose your date when upgrading?02:16
ArsinNevermind02:17
sblunixNot very probably, but it all depends on your hardware/knowhow/installed files/stability of previous and new version of Ubuntu02:17
sblunixNot very probable*02:17
sblunix!beginners | sblunix02:17
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about beginners02:17
christophersblinux: System Monitor gives a warning when I try to end the firefox process: Ending a process may destroy data, break the session or introduce a security risk. Only unresponding processes should be ended.02:18
MrShroomsblunix: then when the official release is out i will just have to update my ssystem instead of redownloading it right?02:18
christopherI click "end process" anyway02:18
christopherbut nothing happens to the process02:18
sblunixMrShroom: correct, but updating your system will be close to the equivalent of redownloading it, it will try to leave your home partition intact, but it's not garaunteed02:19
enforce1Is anyone aware of a sun virtual machine download of ubuntu?02:19
Flannel!java | enforce102:19
ubottuenforce1: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository02:19
enforce1No, not java, persay02:20
sblunix!factoid02:20
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots02:20
enforce1Sun makes a virtual machine application for OSX, similar to Parallels02:20
Flannelenforce1: you mean Virtual Box?02:20
enforce1Flannel:02:20
enforce1Flannel: Yeah02:20
Flannel!vbox | enforce102:21
ubottuenforce1: virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from the package 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox02:21
ubuntuse_69hello geeks02:21
mankashHow to merge avi files ?02:22
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MrShroomsblunix: would it be any problem if i have my hd partitoned with windosw?02:22
sblunixMrShroom: if just updating, no02:23
MrShroomsblunix: if i want to upgrade to 9.1?02:23
fcuk112_mankash: http://www.ubuntuhowtos.com/howtos/merge_avi_files_with_mencoder02:24
sblunixMrShroom: if you want to upgrade to 9.10 on the release date then it shouldn't be a problem02:24
sblunixif doing a fresh install02:24
sblunixit shouldn't be a problem if your careful with your partitioning02:24
sblunix!partitions02:24
ubottuFor help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap02:24
etohello can somebody explai to me why the fsck rythmbox is starting when i click on Documents or home folder?02:24
MrShroomsblunix: i mean if i upgrade now to 9.1 beta02:25
Merc|I am the 1400th  person on the ubuntu chat!02:25
Merc|ubuntu!02:25
sblunixMerc| the 1363d02:25
Merc|sblunix: :P When I was joining the channel...that is02:26
MrShroom!channels02:26
ubottuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines02:26
haven489hey all02:26
enforce1hey02:27
XStatikCan someone please tell me something gnu02:27
haven489i have a problem i have an old Linux laptop that is giving me trouble02:27
MrShroomsblunix: would there be any problem i i want to upgrade now to 9.10 beta with my hd partitioned?02:27
MrShroomif*02:27
haven489im trying to boot from an img of Debian02:27
DigitalKiwiXStatik: linux is GNU02:27
DigitalKiwijk ;D02:27
haven489and it give me a hash error "unable to determin hash02:27
haven489any thoughts?02:28
NiteSnowXStatik, no GNU is not unix :P02:28
sblunixMrShroom: not as long as you leave your windows partition untouched, and only partition over the old installation02:28
xrandrhey got  a question. the nvidia driver is seeing my lcd tv as a CRT monitor. How do i tell it that it is a LCD TV ?'02:28
DigitalKiwiXStatik: coreutils02:28
MrShroomxrandr: did u use the button 'detect displays'?02:29
haven489this is the lap top i have02:29
xrandrMrShroom, yes02:29
snuffy47I started to install a raid 1 with mdadm and had problems and nwo would like to delete all tracess and start over any help02:29
haven489http://tech2.in.com/media/images/2008/May/img_64061_olpc-microsoft.jpg02:29
DigitalKiwihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_GNU_packages XStatik02:29
etosomebody?02:29
MrShroomxrandr: is your tv displaying your computer image?02:30
xrandrxrandr, im using it right now. its just seeing it as a crt, so when i switch to the 1920x1200 resolution, it shows it, but the color is off, and everything looks really messed up02:30
altavatarI booted a new kernel (auto-update). Then one of my raid devices was gone.  I was able to resolve this by doing an mdadmn -Es > /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf && mdadm -As; but, shouldn't the boot procss do something similar itself? Someone suggested that the module isn't loaded in the new kernel (but the kernel is loading the other 2 raid devices that were configured previously - it's just not loading the new dev until 02:31
MrShroomxrandr: 1920x1200is a lot for a tv screen, when i use my lcd screen i use 1360x76802:31
xrandrif i use the dvi port of my graphics card it sees it as DFP-002:32
xrandrbut it looks horrible02:32
xrandrthe fonts arent displayed right02:32
squidlyanyone unable to start up firefox-3.5 with an error saying it's already running?02:32
MrShroomxrandr: which port r u using then?02:32
xrandrthe VGA port02:32
xrandrwhich is the one i want02:32
xrandrit worked in ubuntu 8.0402:33
xrandrstopped working in 9.0402:33
MrShroomxrandr: is your tv full hd or hd ready?02:33
MoTectuxracer runs slow at 3200x2400.. :(02:33
xrandrxrandr, not entirely sure. It's an Olevia 23" tv02:33
haven489so no one is going to help me fine!02:33
xrandrMrShroom, i meant02:34
MrShroomxrandr: it should be hd ready, mhhh i think you're trying to use a very high resolution on your tv02:34
MoTechow can an OLPC be an 'old laptop'?02:34
MrShroomxrandr: try using 1360x76802:35
sblunix!unr is <reply> Ubuntu Netbook Remix (UNR) is a 'remix' of the standard Ubuntu Desktop release to enable it to work better on devices with small screens, such as netbooks.  For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR and for support please ask your question at https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/netbook-remix .02:35
xrandrMrShroom, yeah, i can use that resolution. Infact, im on a 1600x1200 resolution now. I did get it to work in 8.04 though02:36
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MrShroomxrandr: xrandr and 1600x1200 looks crappy?02:37
Merc|ubuntu02:37
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xrandrMrShroom, no it does not. 1920x1200 or 1920x1280 does. And that is the desired resolution02:37
MoTecMy niece used to call me every two weeks or so to clean off spyware off of her netbook when it had windows.  I installed UNR and now she hasn't called for two months.   I'm sad :(  I miss talking with her.02:38
kiaasI believe I have found a bug, but with what I am unsure. but every keypress is making the computer beep, like I've hit backspace too many times or something.02:38
ramseizehello i have a question hoping that you would help me answer, i dont have any idea about server administration, and im planning to buy a vps , which os should i choose ubuntu or centos, im quite familiar with ubuntu as it is what im using for my desktop, but its different when you talk about server side, which is easy to configure cent os or ubuntu server?02:39
xrandrOption"TVStandard""NTSC-M"  i wonder if i put that in, it'll be happy02:39
MrShroomxrandr: mhhh, try lowering the refresh rate02:39
sblunix!server02:40
ubottuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 8.04. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/index.html - Use the #ubuntu-server channel for support02:40
* skuld takes a number and waits in line02:40
xrandrMrShroom, nvidia-settings doesn't give me that option to02:40
MoTecubottu: ebox makes administration trivial02:40
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:40
MoTecramseize: ebox makes administration trivial02:40
MoTecand f-you ebottu02:40
sblunix!server > ramseize02:40
ubotturamseize, please see my private message02:40
koppeGoing to mount external HDD read-only as root.  FS is way past time for automatic-check, how do I prevent it from being checked?  (Yes, I know I ought to, but I can't.)02:41
erkules_moin, how are the future plans of ubuntu and openvz. In 9.04 ubuntu dropped the "support" of an openvz-kernel.02:41
skuldI just installed Ubuntu Server 9.04 today.  I noticed that very frequently, the Remote Server locks up the server.  Does anybody know of a fix for this?02:41
xrandrMrShroom, it's not that big of a deal. i can live with 1600x120002:41
* erkules_ knows that debiankernels with openvzsupport exists :)02:41
sblunix!server | skuld02:41
ubottuskuld: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 8.04. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/index.html - Use the #ubuntu-server channel for support02:41
Merc|ubottu commands02:41
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal02:41
skuldokay, thank you! :)02:41
shaunoramseize: between the two distros, you're most likely going to have more success with whichever you're already more familiar with02:41
ramseizedoes anybody know of a good vps that is very cheap, i just need it for educational purposes02:42
krishnawhat is vps02:43
MoTecvps=virtual private server...02:43
sblunixkrishna: Virtual Private Server?02:43
MoTecaka a shell account02:43
krishnais this vps for any computing purpose02:44
fcuk112_sorry offtopic, for learning japanese #nihongo exists, is there something similar for learning chinese?02:44
MoTec #nihao ?02:44
fcuk112_no users there...02:45
sblunixback02:45
MoTecyeah.. i made it up, lol02:45
fcuk112_lol02:45
MoTecit means hello/goodbye, tho02:45
solexious|netbkis there an rss reader that will also use the new osd notifications?02:45
kiaasnihongo is the japanese word for japanese language.02:45
sblunix.google learn chinese irc02:46
m0r0nIf I don't know where a file is, how do I preform a search?02:46
Mystichttp://www.chinese-forums.com/showthread.php?t=7597 (Chinese IRC or other chat)02:46
sblunix!google02:46
MoTecm0r0n: locate filename02:46
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.02:46
m0r0nMoTec: Thanks a lot02:47
krishnam0r0n:locate filename02:47
MeXTuXI want to install Ubuntu and the processor is an Intel (R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @3.00 GHz. Which version do I need? i386 or AMD64??02:47
MoTecm0r0n: might need to install that package... here are some alternatives:  http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfinding.html02:47
fcuk112_Mystic: thanks.02:48
MoTecMeXTuX: either02:48
m0r0nMoTec: It worked02:48
krishnamextux: you can go for ubuntu 9.0402:48
okdudegg02:48
krishnamextux: if u want u can install ubuntu ultimate02:49
MoTecgg? is this cs?02:49
preecherhow do i see device manager or its equivlent in ubuntu 9.0402:49
m0r0nWhen you delete something on root, does it do a permanent delete or does it actually have a trashbin?02:49
sblunixm0r0n: actually has a trash bin02:49
m0r0nsblunix: Where is it located?02:49
sblunixm0r0n: enter "gksudu nautilus" in your terminal (without quotes) and there should be a link02:50
krishnamextux: just order the cd as per ur requirements u will get the cd for free02:50
MeXTuXI entered lshw on a console. What does "width" mean?? It has a value of 64 bits02:50
sblunix!amd64 | MeXTuX02:50
ubottuMeXTuX: AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/3jkole and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64 for more information.02:50
ZykoticK9m0r0n, if you deleted it in terminal - there is no trashbin02:50
m0r0nsblunix: You mean gksu? gksudu nautilus is not found02:51
m0r0nZykoticK9: I went in, gksu nautilus and deleted it there02:51
sblunix@m0r0n yes, I meant gksu, sorry about that02:51
ZykoticK9m0r0n, it's gksudo...02:51
m0r0nsblunix: Ya I'm here, but I don't see it02:51
wippoSaturn02:51
c4ptm0r0n: gksudo02:51
preecherdoes ubuntu 9.04 have a "device manager" equivlent02:51
ZykoticK9preecher, honestly - not really...02:52
slimindiem0r0n, in redhat at least trash stuff goes into ~/.Trash02:52
okdudegg02:52
m0r0nc4pt: ZykoticK9:  gksu does the same, anywho where is the trash?02:52
preecherthen is they a way i can see what devices i have i need to kno what kinda harddrive i have as in sata or eide02:52
c4ptm0r0n: if you did rm -rf its permantly gone02:52
krishnapreecher: you don't have like that but in system-> administration u can find hardware devices configuration02:53
m0r0nc4pt: rm -rf?02:53
slimindiem0r0n, so if you're root it would be in /root/.Trash02:53
krishnapreecher: for usb sticks manually u have to change the permissions of the user02:53
slimindiem0r0n, try doing 'ls -latrh' on your user directory in the terminal02:53
m0r0nslimindie: "Could not find "/root/.Trash""02:54
maslohello i need help really02:54
sblunixhello maslo, what can I help you with02:54
krishnapreecher: as far as i know type fdisk -l in ur terminal it will give u hda or sda if sda it is sata but i dont know abt eide02:54
maslohow can one regenerate folder links in national language other than english?02:54
Xialeide shows up the same way, krishna.02:55
realiif i use cd2usb i will get a fully live ubuntu on usb ? ..02:55
sblunix:\02:55
krishnak...02:55
slimindiem0r0n, it's almost certainly under /root somewhere, and probably starts with a '.' (making it hidden in nautilus). you'll have to do it from the terminal02:55
preecherthanks\02:55
masloi installed with slovak then swithched to english now when i switched back to slovak it's all wrong, in english02:55
krishnawhat is eide i dont know anything abt it02:55
* Xial spent a half hour yesterday getting his other IDE drives recognized in xubuntu, since they weren't mounted.02:55
maslosblunix:  do you have a clue?02:56
sblunixmaslo: no idea, may I direct you to the forums?02:56
sblunix!forum | maslo02:56
ubottumaslo: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.02:56
Xialkrishna, eide, later renamed pata to add confusion to the world of acronyms, is the older hard drive style that uses a ribbon cable that's fairly wide, compared to the serial ata cable.02:56
masloanyone else?02:57
krishnareali : in ubuntu u have usb startup disk creater a graphical tools that creates a bootable usb stick02:57
Jordan_Umaslo: Try asking in #ubuntu-cz02:57
maslook thanks i am goonana do that02:58
krishnaxial: k.. i came to know then wt is for hda02:58
krishnais there any channel for web applications02:59
jrock2004What web application03:00
krishnajava based web applications03:00
realcoolguylooking to find lots of scattered files with somewhat similar names and gather them all into one file... I'm not seeing an easy way to scan through all subdirectories with the mv command either...03:01
jrock2004Have you tried #java03:01
sblunixrealcoolguy, doesn't nautilus have a search feature?03:01
krishnai didn't03:01
jrock2004That is where I would start03:02
krishna#java03:02
slimindierealcoolguy, have you tried using find?03:02
realcoolguysblunix: Not a bad idea... slimindie: I think this is what i was thinking of, hitting man pages03:02
krishnarealcoolguy: just u see www.swecha.net may u can find a shell program that resolves ur problem03:03
krishnarealcoolguy: one of friend wrote shell program for ur problem03:03
krishna#java not working03:04
realcoolguykrishna: awesome, I'll look through, and thanks again... (gotta dig out my really thick book with linux commands again I guess.)03:04
krishnarealcoolguy: if u didn't find i will post the code on www.swatantra.co.nr by tomorrow03:05
realcoolguykrishna: I think I can figure this out, but thanks again for the offer.03:06
sblunixrealcoolguy: wouldn't that thick book be called google?03:06
evanescentcups doesn't seem to be detecting my USB printer, any ideas?03:06
realcoolguysblunix: :P  I like dusty paper.03:06
XialOk. I've got an interesting one that #xubuntu seems to be asleep for. I'm using only a keyboard on this system. I enabled an accessibility feature that allows my number pad to emulate a mouse. If I leave the machine idle for 10, 15 minutes or so, the number pad acts like a number pad again.03:07
sblunixrealcoolguy: says the linux uner03:07
evanescentif I direct it to look manually, where do I say it is. LP port?03:07
XialHowever, if I can dig my way back to that accessibility feature, it says the feature is on. Is there something I'm just missing here?03:07
krishnak... i m leaving have a nice day03:08
realcoolguyXial: Are there power saving features enabled? see if you can move the power saving feature time around and if it matches your problem or not.03:08
XialUnless there's one that kills the keyboard that I'm not aware of, all my power saving settings are set to disabled -- would suck to have the screen fading out in the middle of a movie. :)03:09
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evanescenthow do I direct cups to a usb printer03:10
evanescentit's not detecting my printer, which i know is supported in linux03:11
realcoolguyXial: Is there any physical problem that could possibly causing an interruption of the device (unplugging it just even momentarily?)03:11
acad4does anyone know why when i left click on the speaker in the top right corner i can't control the volume? if i right click and select open volume control the master volume does adjust the volume.03:11
Jeruvyevanescent: did you add the printer to cups?03:12
evanescentJeruvy, I went to add a new printer, and it searched for it, but found nothing03:12
evanescentI don't know what port to say it's on because USB is not an option (parallel, serial, network, etc are)03:12
CaleWhat is the preferred directory in which to put custom HAL configuration files? If I just stick things in /etc/hal/fdi/policy will it work? (Frankly I find the new config system rather confusing relative to xorg.conf ;)03:12
Jeruvyevanescent: try unplugging it and plugging it in again.03:13
evanescentnothing...03:13
Xialrealcoolguy, unless the motherboard on this machine is shot (minor possibility of this being true), none that I can think of.03:13
acad4evanescent: the best thing to do in GNU/Linux is get a printer from a company that actually supports GNU/Linux 100%.  you can't go wrong with any HP printer. they provide quality open source drivers for everything they sell these days.03:13
evanescentopenprinter.org says this pritner works 'perfect' so Ia ssume its supported03:14
evanescentits one I already have of course03:14
Jeruvyevanescent: try to re-add it after plugging it in again.  Is it plugged in directly to the machine?03:14
Poincare1I have a modem question03:14
evanescent*openprinting03:14
Poincare1I'm trying to use efax03:14
realcoolguyevanescent: which printer is it again?03:14
evanescentits plugged in right to the machine. Ill try searching again but I thought I tried this03:14
acad4evanscent: thinkpenguin.com if you want to buy from a company that supports gnu/linux - plus you get technical support on ubuntu if you need it- or another linux os.03:14
evanescentcanon pixma MX30003:14
usr13Anyone know how to boot Ubuntu 8.04 with lilo?03:14
evanescenthttp://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_MX30003:14
MeXTuXDoes anybody know about a free alternative to Flash??  :o03:14
evanescentk. same thing. when I go to add a new printer it just searches for a bit and then asks me where the printer is03:15
Poincare1And i'm a 100 % sure that i have cups set up right, but e fax doesn't work :(. The problem is, I have the dell linux drivers installed but I don't know what tty my modem is on. How can I find out?03:15
XialIsn't Gnash a free alternative to flash, though reliability is questionable at best? :)03:15
Poincare1anyone?03:15
Poincare1is anyone willing to help me?03:15
Poincare1anyone at all?03:16
Poincare1I just want to find out my tty of my modem03:16
XialPoincare1, May need to slow your roll with a can of Drank. People need a moment to think about an answer for it, after all. :)03:16
Poincare1okay xial03:16
jeeves_Mosswhat does "Agent admitted failure to sign using the key." mean?  I'm trying to pre share keys for SSH03:16
Jeruvyevanescent: have you tried to follow thru with this?  I assume you have the drivers installed already?03:17
XialI don't know the answer, personally, but of the thousand-plus people here, someone may have an answer.03:17
evanescentI didn't install anything that didn't come with cups. I thought the driver it mention there would03:17
evanescentI did install cups03:17
usr13!lilo03:17
ubottulilo is an alternative [Li]nux Boot[Lo]ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.03:17
Poincare1I installed cups03:17
Poincare1I did03:17
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RoastedQUESTION - I have 2 drives I want to rsync. My source drive (my samba network drive) has 3 shares on it, owned by jason:pam, jason:curt, jason:tyler. Inside the files are owned by the users accordingly. tyler:tyler, pam:pam, curt:curt, with jason being a member of each "user" group (meaning I'm a member of tyler, curt, pam, so I can access their files anyway). When I rsync -a their stuff to my 2nd drive, the owner of the files goes f03:17
Roastedrom pam:pam to jason:pam. Why doesn't it transfer owner?03:17
XialRoasted, I know nothing about rsync, but I'd fairly assume that the owner of the file gets changed to the person that ran the command.03:18
mycertpoyo03:18
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navapRoasted: Have you tried -o?03:19
Roastednavap - no, I use -a, which includes -o03:20
Roastednavap - -a is the same as -rlptgoD03:20
BilliardRoasted: running rysnc as super user?03:20
jeeves_Mosswhat does "Agent admitted failure to sign using the key." mean?  I'm trying to pre share keys for SSH03:20
evanescentcups-driver-gutenprint  is already installed evidently03:20
Roastedbilliard - I could do that, certainly. I just was under the impression rsync doesnt need root access to run as long as I am the owner. Which, I own /media/storage and /media/storagebackup, so when I rsync from storage to storagebackup, I thought it would take the files/folders inside "as is" with their owners intact isnce I owned the root folders they were getting dropped into.03:21
XialPoincare1, while it's not entirely related, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G/Probing might help you in finding out which TTY your modem is on, by the way.03:21
BilliardRoasted: i believe noone can change the owner of a file but root03:21
sblunixBilliard: untrue03:22
XialI just had to find the article. Years ago, when I was using a pantech ev-do card, I had to do that dance to find the card, and find the TTY it was on.03:22
Roastedsblunix - root + the actual user who owns it...03:22
evanescentstill not detecting... :(03:22
XialHope it helps, Poincare1 . Now I need to rescue the fish from the oven. :)03:22
sblunixroasted: :)03:22
sblunixbilliard + roasted: root + all users w/ permission to change file permissions...03:23
Roastedsblunix - which would be the answer to my question... I guess I cant rsync files from storage to storagebackup under "pam" being the owner when Im logged in as jason03:23
sblunixRoasted: do you know "pam"'s password?03:23
Roastedsblunix - oh yes, I set up their samba accounts on my system.03:23
Roastedsblunix - I just dont know if its worth tacking on to my script though. I just wanted to make sure my setup was working correctly.03:24
sblunixi only heard the first bit of your question03:24
sblunixSo, what are you trying to do?03:24
Billiardsblunix: i am unable to change the owner of any files, only the group, without sudo03:24
sblunixif you have to just run a "sudo" or "gksu" + command then enter root/pam's pass03:24
evanescentfor a usb printer, what kind of device should I tell cups it is03:24
sblunixoh yeah, Billiard: I'm afraid that's a safety feature of Ubuntu's03:25
sblunixAll important commands in terminal require a sudo, even if owner is logged in03:25
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Roastedsblunix - I guess its not a real big deal, because if storage goes down and I pull my backup from storagebackup, all I have to do are run 3 commands to have them EXACTLY the way they were before... which is simply, sudo chown -R pam:pam pam, curt:curt curt, tyler:tyler tyler... then my backup would be in 100% fu nctional condition to the original.03:26
evanescentdude, weak. my wife plugged the usb cable into the modem port on the printer...03:26
pistyman1does anybody know how to get drivers for my wifi card?03:26
evanescenti spent hours tryin to fix this03:26
sblunix!forums | evanescent03:27
ubottuevanescent: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.03:27
evanescentit works now.03:27
Roastedsblunix - It was more about making sure my script was working perfectly as it should be. I mean it makes sense that -o requires root priviledges unless I'm the owner. I guess me being in the group "pam" with "7" rights means nothing cause, an owner is an owner, while group is on a different level, even if the permissions are 775 for owner/group. I guess I still dont have full reign even if Im in the group with 7 powers :P03:27
webbb82cccan anyone please take a look at this and see if they can figure out what went wrong  http://pastebin.com/m153ada2903:27
sblunix!FAQ | pistyman103:27
ubottupistyman1: A list of common questions and answers about Ubuntu: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions - Official documentation: http://help.ubuntu.com - IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage03:27
applemanwhat kind of careers are offered in the Linux field in Local Areas?03:27
applemanI can be a desktop sweeper03:28
applemandoes surfboard stand swing03:28
sblunixwebbb82: what are you trying to do?03:28
webbb82compile the raptor menu03:28
webbb82from this   http://www.raptor-menu.org/download03:29
applemanI don't even have a recycling bin on this03:29
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ubuntukdkdkd03:30
applemanlater doods03:30
sblunixwebbb82: well on line 46 of your CMakeLists.txt file there is the command "NEPOMUK_ADD_ONTOLOGY_CLASSES" and Cmake has no idea what to do with that03:30
webbb82sblunix, whaty should i do with it03:31
DaZ!find nepomukontologyloader.so03:32
ubottuFile nepomukontologyloader.so found in kdebase-runtime, kdebase-runtime-dbg03:32
MoTecoh, for friggin' sure!03:32
MoTecgetting UNR to remember your wireless password without the keyring nonsense is as easy as checking 'for all users' checkbox.03:32
DaZ!find ontology.h03:32
ubottuFile ontology.h found in kdelibs5-dev03:32
DaZwebbb82:03:32
sblunixhey03:33
sblunixwebbb82: try asking your question on #raptor03:33
webbb82ubottu, should i install those then try again?03:33
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:33
preecheris they be a way i can dload ubuntu to flash drive with having to burn the iso to a cd first03:33
DaZwebbb82: yes [;03:33
preecheri meant without havin to burn the cd iso03:33
sblunixpreecher: yes they be a way03:33
Xialpreecher, you probably can mount the ISO using a number of virtual CD-ROM utilities on multiple platforms.03:34
sblunixpreecher: please hold for one second while I pull up the information you're requesting03:34
preechersblunix,  ok thx03:34
webbb82DaZ, ok ill givr it a try03:34
webbb82thanks03:34
sblunixpreecher: are you wanting to download Ubuntu 9.10 or Ubuntu 9.04?03:36
preecherit no matter with me03:36
preecheri use 9.04 now03:36
sblunixok 9.10 is in beta still, it gets officially released in about 10 or 9 days03:36
sblunixbut I'll go ahead and hook you up with that03:37
pingyafor some reason empathy IM client has started showing my own jabber account in my contact list (i can even open a chat window with myself)  does anyone know how to hide my account from showing?03:37
preecherthen 9.04 i no want a beta03:37
sblunixWell then03:37
sblunixpreecher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles03:38
preecherthank u03:38
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jimmy51_homea box asking for my password just popped up03:38
jimmy51_homeit's trying to run:  /usr/share/apport/apport-qt.  is that safe to do?03:38
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webbb82DaZ,  now i get this error http://pastebin.com/m57cfe2b803:38
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sblunixjimmy51_home: what activity are you trying to do?03:38
webbb82sblinux03:39
jimmy51_homei'm not sure.  i had been running updates but there was an error03:39
jimmy51_homevirtual box was running while trying to update03:39
epaphushello, i installed ubuntu in a HD in one box.. and switched the HD another box.. and now the NIC isnt recognized .. it says unable to configure. If i load the 9.04 live cd then it does work. Why would install not work if I installed the generic kernel03:39
sblunixwebbb82: you need NepomukAddOntologyClasses03:39
webbb82i just installed that one kdelibs dpkg thing03:40
sblunixjimmy51_home: if you're running updates then yes, that's safe to do, it's not an error, it's just a security check03:40
DaZ!find NepomukAddOntologyClasses.cmake03:40
ubottuPackage/file NepomukAddOntologyClasses.cmake does not exist in jaunty03:40
sblunix!find NepomukAddOntologyClasses03:40
ubottuPackage/file NepomukAddOntologyClasses does not exist in jaunty03:40
DaZout of luck [;03:41
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webbb82i was told kdelibs took its place but i think i got it installed as well03:41
Kevin1a I have been using the wifi at Old Chicago near my work for a while now.  It recently stopped working.  I still connect to the access point, but none of my applications are able to access the internet.  I have tried this using both Ubuntu and Windows 7.  My phone still seems to connect fine.  Is it possible that I have somehow been blocked?  What are the most common ways of blocking users?  Could it be a problem with my settings in linux03:41
Kevin1athat are effecting not just the linux partition.03:41
epaphusanybody?03:41
webbb82what if i take that out of the cmake list03:41
DaZwebbb82: you don't need debug packages03:41
DaZbecause you're not debugging :f03:42
sblunix!unr03:42
ubottuUbuntu Netbook Remix is a slightly altered version of Ubuntu, optimised for small screens. For more information, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR - support in #ubuntu03:42
webbb82i dunno im just getting frustrated03:42
shane2peruKevin1a: you been busted, and blocked. :)03:42
Kevin1aI'm not sure.  It's a public network so that would surprise me?  Is there a way to test this theory without asking?03:43
frogzooKevin1a: this chan won't help you illegally leech bandwidth...03:43
Wicked!java03:43
ubottuTo install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository03:43
Wicked!help03:43
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)03:43
Wicked!info03:43
ubottuRetrieve information on a package: !info <package>03:43
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ubottuSearch factoids for term: !search <term>03:44
frogzooWicked: pm the bot so you don't spam the chan03:44
Wickedhmm. thought it gave a link to a web frontend for the bot :|03:44
frogzoo!ubottu03:45
Kevin1afrogzoo: I don't see whats illegal about it.  There is a wifi symbol on the door.  They want people to use it.  I just want to make sure it's not my settings03:45
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:45
gpledhow can i add a pdf printer to 9.04?03:45
Wickedawesome thanks :)03:45
XialLooks like the solution to my issue is going to be 'buy a mouse for the media center box' :(03:45
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downwriter1hello...I am wondering if anyone has used an old tower computer to make a ubuntu server03:46
frogzoodownwriter1: the form factor makes no difference03:46
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EtherI think he just means he has an old tower to use03:46
downwriter1yes Ether03:47
Etherwhat specs03:47
downwriter1obviously I am new to this03:47
DaZdownwriter1: how old? :f03:47
Wickedubuntu runs on a vast array of hardware03:47
Etherxubunutu is nice on REAL old machines03:48
Wickedhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements03:48
DaZtty is the best on old machines.03:48
downwriter1hmmm I think it is 99/0003:48
Wickedlooks like it needs 300mhz+ cpu and 64mb's of ram for a desktop03:48
downwriter1I need to do the spec work03:48
EtherI got an old inspiron 3500 rocking like 128MB ram runs it decent03:48
preecherwhat is tty03:49
epaphusAnybody know why I cannot install  ubuntu on a box and then close the HD so itcan be used on other boxes? Iam having trouble for it to recognize hardware.. such as the NIC... the livecd for 9.10 does run fine and always recgonizes everything.. is it possible that one install is somehow tied with the hardware it was installed at?03:49
DaZ... :f03:49
Wickedanything 300mhz+ and 64mb+ of ram...and it will run03:49
downwriter1but you can't use it for the server edition?03:49
Wickeddownwriter1, well the server version is without x...so id say it would be the same or less for a server03:50
downwriter1ok03:50
downwriter1thank you03:50
Wickedfor the absolute minimum its saying intel pentium 486 cpu or better and 32mb's of ram...with 300mb's of disk space.03:51
Wickedbut thats absolute bare minimum...03:51
downwriter1yeah03:51
downwriter1hmmm I have a few old towers, I suppose I could swap in some hardware03:51
frogzooubuntu publishes a min spec, and I believe 256Meg RAM is a min...03:51
frogzoofor desktop anyhow03:52
DaZhe doesn't need x on a server ;f03:52
NavyWifeI need some help installing an older version of Wine, before I bang my head right through the wall.03:52
SenesenceWhere can I find the mounting rules for usb devices?03:52
frogzooDaZ: no indeed03:52
Wickedi ran ubuntu server on a old p3 755mhz and i think 64 or 128mb's of ram...on a 8 gig hdd...ran good for a home server.03:52
downwriter1my idea was to run a server on the tower and run the desktop on my laptop03:52
DaZNavyWife: playonlinux can do it  <:03:52
NavyWifePlease and thank you. I will look that up03:52
Wickedyea playonlinux is pretty sweet03:52
NavyWife:)03:52
Wicked!playonlinux03:53
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about playonlinux03:53
Wicked:(03:53
sblunix!wine03:53
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu03:53
XialI know I got Ubuntu to run on a Lat CPx H500GT (500 MHz processor, 256 MB RAM) a couple of years ago.  At that time, I had to use the alternate install disc, because it couldn't run the live CD and the installer at the same time.03:53
JJman6_I am running Ubuntu servers.  and i have changed the host & domain names of the machines.  but when i ssh into them now i no l onger get the nifty stats after login that i used too.  How can i get those back!03:53
WickedXial, ah yea. good you brought that up. iirc i had the same issue03:54
SenesenceThe permissions of my USB device cannot be determined; anyone have any idea how to fix it?03:54
WickedJJman6_, edit the /etc/motd?03:54
WickedSenesence, mount it with a different umask maby?03:54
Wickedthough might wanna look into it more before mucking around03:55
SenesenceWicked: Where can I find the default mounting rules for usb devices?03:55
JJman6_Wicked: ok what am i editing.  it has all the info in there already taht it used too.  but it didn't show that when i logged in again03:55
XialAnyhow. I have delicious fish and chips to eat and movies to watch. If I helped anyone, glad to help. For those who helped me, thank you very much. Good night. :)03:55
crunchbanghi03:55
WickedSenesence, i really am not sure.03:56
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WickedJJman6_, hmm not really sure man.03:56
stonbahi everyone03:56
Senesencehi03:56
WickedJJman6_, i normally change my motd anyways03:56
crohakonHello03:56
JJman6_This file is obviosly dynamically generated anyway.  as the information is changed somehow upon every login03:57
SenesenceAnyone know anything about SELinux?03:57
stonbaCrunchbang and ubuntu are basicly same thing right?03:57
DaZstonba: it's basically still linu03:57
DaZx :f03:57
stonbaso same rules apply right?'03:57
D_ReaL_PuNiShEr??03:58
stonbafor linux and crunchbang?03:58
DaZlolwut03:58
DaZi guess :f03:58
stonbaI know that it is debian based.03:58
Wicked!motd03:58
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about motd03:58
irishhawk81Anyone know if Linux will or has support for X4650 Lexmark printer?03:58
SenesenceEnabling SELinux relabeled all my files, so I think that's why my USB devices not have undetermined permissions (mount in read-only)03:58
BilliardJJman6_: /etc/update-motd.d/ is where the motd is updated03:58
WickedJJman6_, you can try the ubuntu server channel too. iirc its #ubuntu-server03:58
JJman6_ok i'll check those out Billiard & Wicked03:59
firdau5irishhawk81> Anyone know if Linux will or has support for X4650 Lexmark printer? <--- the problem is, Lexmark itself didnt support linux03:59
crohakonDoes ubuntu make for a good server?03:59
shawn_crohakon I use the server edition yes03:59
firdau5irishhawk81, I advice you to survey on shoppers web site03:59
histocrohakon: yes there is a server edition03:59
irishhawk81Okay thanks Firdau5 wasn't sure if someone got into programming and came up with thier own03:59
DaZserver edition doesn't mean it's good :f04:00
firdau5irishhawk81, shoppers on printers side04:00
irishhawk81Thanks04:00
shawn_When using two seperate X screens on dual displays how can I make it so Docky runs out of my other screen?04:00
firdau5welcome04:00
crohakonI know there is a server edition... I asked if it was a good.04:00
SenesenceAny USB gurus here?04:00
histo!best | crohakon04:00
ubottucrohakon: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.04:00
shawn_crohakon, And I said yes I use it and I like it04:00
comfnumbIs there anywhere on IRC to go for Linux/Ubuntu/Wine gaming questions?04:01
DaZcomfnumb: #winehq?04:01
histocomfnumb: there is #winehq and #ubuntu is the official ubuntu support channel04:01
crohakonThats all I wanted to know. I am installing it right now anyway. If I like it I will recommend it to the guy I work for because he wants to move our website onto a local server instead of out sourcing. lol04:01
histocomfnumb: what else could you need.04:01
NavyWifeokay, I dl and installed playonlinux. It downloaded the current version of wine. I have the 1.1.17.tar.bz2 package of the wine I need installed. How do I install that one. My stupid game won't play on 1.1.04:01
NavyWife3104:01
shawn_crohakon I suggest 8.04 Server Edition though04:02
NavyWifeSorry. Been dealing with this for 12 hours. Tired of it :)04:02
histocrohakon: i've been running one 24/7 for quite sometime. I don't even know what the uptime is but its high.04:02
Senesence*Needs USB help.04:02
histoNavyWife: what is playonlinux?04:02
crohakonWell, good. I will setup and see what I think. Any advice or is it all fairly standard?04:02
comfnumbhisto: im trying to play an online game and no servers are listed to connect to04:03
SenesenceWhere are the USB mount rules; my USB devices are mounting in read-only mode.04:03
NavyWifeA more user friendly way to use Wine, from the website. I've not run it before tonight.04:03
histocrohakon: fairly sstraight forward.04:03
NavyWifeI just want my EQ204:03
JJman6_any recommendations on using ext3 vs ext4 for servers?  Is ext4 stable enough to be used in a production environment?04:03
histocomfnumb: does the machine have internet access and what game are you trying to get to work?04:03
crohakonDoes the server edition have a gui by default or is it all console?04:03
russlarcrohakon: all console04:03
tehbautI have an issue where all my newly installed apps are no longer adding themselves to the main menu after I moved it to the bottom panel. Anyone know why that might be?04:03
histoNavyWife: Do you need to install wine from source? Can't you just use the version from the repos?04:03
russlarcrohakon: you can install the gui with apt-get04:04
comfnumbhisto: yes on internet, on it right now, and im trying to run Day Of Defeat04:04
histocomfnumb: hrm.. maybe firewall issue?04:04
NavyWifeHisto: I have no clue. I am an Ubuntu/linux baby04:04
crohakonNah, I am up for the no console challenge. It will help me learn more.04:04
histoNavyWife: I'm confused can you clearify what you want to do again?04:04
crohakonThough, I might be asking a few questions.... =)04:05
NavyWifeHisto: I have a DL of the wine tar.bz2 I need to install (1.1.17) and I have no clue how to run the code to get it to install. I am in need of the emulator to run EverQuest2. Have used 1.1.31 Wine in the past, but EQ2 crashes on this release04:05
comfnumbhisto: well there arent any settings to adjust within the game... does ubuntu have its own firewall controls? or do i control it elsewhere?04:06
histoNavyWife: ahh what version is availble in the repos? try apt-cache showpkg wine04:06
NavyWifeHisto: Let me try that.04:06
histocomfnumb: if you've installed a firewall it does. Also you could be behind a router/modem thats giving you issues.04:07
tehbautAnyone have any clues why apps no longer put shortcuts in the main menu after I customized the menu?04:07
histoNavyWife: if its not the specific version you need I would suggest downloading the .deb from the wine site for the version you need. If you have a .deb you can just double click and install it.  You downloaded the source version the tar.gz04:08
NavyWifeHisto: Is this what I am looking for?04:08
NavyWifeReverse Depends:04:08
NavyWife  playonlinux,wine04:08
NavyWife  wine-gecko,wine04:08
NavyWife  wine-dev,wine 1.1.31~winehq0~ubuntu~9.04-0ubuntu104:08
NavyWife  wine-gecko,wine04:08
FloodBot1NavyWife: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.04:08
histoNavyWife: yeah it wants to install 1.1.3104:08
NavyWifeHisto: The deb site is erroring out, on both this machine and a windows machine04:09
histoNavyWife: which is wierd did you add the wine repos to your sources.list?04:09
NavyWifeHisto: Um, no clue? <-- TOTALLY new to Linux by about a month04:09
histoNavyWife: because 1.1.31 isn't in the repos for 9.0404:09
histo!info wine04:09
ubottuwine (source: wine): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-0ubuntu6 (jaunty), package size 7329 kB, installed size 54508 kB04:09
NavyWifeHisto: Event not found?04:10
axisysis there a way to install using ubuntu directly from internet.. i dont want to burn a new CD every six months.. i guess one option would be PXE and point to ISO on another disk.. but what if my laptop is the only computer available? i am looking for a default boot iso that can be used for every ubuntu release.. so it will get the network layer and then let me pick the ubunut iso release .. and will work for ubuntu release ..04:10
histoNavyWife: see 1.0.1-0 is in the repository.  Hrm... System > Administration > Software Sources see if you have any third party repositories enabled.04:10
axisyss/install using ubuntu/install ubuntu/04:10
histo!install > axisys04:10
ubottuaxisys, please see my private message04:10
DaZaxisys: you can use a pendrive04:10
DaZaxisys: or dist-uprade which usually kills ubuntu04:10
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Flannelaxisys: How about booting from a USB?04:11
NavyWifeHisto: Wine HQ is listed under Third Party Software04:11
IdleOneNavyWife: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb will install the development version04:11
axisysDaz, Flannel: booting from USB would work..04:11
NavyWifeIdleOne: I need 1.1.17. Game crashes on 1.1.31 and deb site times out04:11
crohakonscanning the mirror....04:11
axisyshisto: i have toruble getting pm.. i have issue with my irssi..04:12
histoNavyWife: will your game work with 1.0.104:12
axisys!install04:12
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate04:12
Flannelaxisys: You can use a recent version of Ubuntu (including a liveCD) to turn an arbitrary iso into a USB installer/live environment04:12
NavyWifeHisto: Um.... Yes04:12
axisysFlannel: i dont want to keep burning CD04:12
NavyWifeHisto: Anything over .9404:12
DaZaxisys: unetbootin04:13
histoNavyWife: but not 1.1.31 right?04:13
NavyWifeHisto: Correct04:13
axisysDaZ: hmm04:13
NavyWifeHisto: Crashes after zone load04:13
histoNavyWife: okay un check the wine HQ repository. Then update the database.04:13
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histoNavyWife: then open a terminal and run the following commands. sudo aptitude purge wine && sudo aptitude install wine04:14
SenesenceWhere can I find the USB mount rules?04:14
histoNavyWife: it should then remove whatever version of wine you have now and install 1.0.1 from the official ubuntu repos.04:14
NavyWifeHisto: Unchecked, updating.04:14
crohakonWhat is LAMP server?04:16
axisysDaZ: wow! unetbootin is awesome..04:16
Flannelcrohakon: Linux Apache MySQL PHP (or some variation thereof)04:16
NavyWifeHisto: E Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?04:16
DaZ[;04:16
crohakonSo it just gives websites hosted on the box the ability to use php?04:17
NavyWifeHisto: What now?04:17
histoNavyWife: when did you get that error?04:17
Flannelcrohakon: And MySQL, sure.04:17
DaZcrohakon: it doesn't have to be php04:17
DaZit can be python04:17
NavyWifeHisto: At the end of the purge? i think. I agreed to remove04:17
histoNavyWife: okay is software sources still open? Or update manager?04:17
crohakonSo what is the PostgreSQL database? Just a different alternative to MySQL? Or something entirely different?04:17
histoNavyWife: Make sure those are closed first then do the purge.04:18
DaZalternative ;f04:18
Flannelcrohakon: Yeah, you can use postgres instead of mysql, it's just another choice of DB04:18
hugoshiI just upgraded to karmic koala, and my screen no longer shows advanced features, I wanted to reconfigure the screen package, but when I do sudo dpkg-reconfigure screen, I get "This is not dpkg install-info anymore, but GNU install-info04:18
hugoshi"04:18
crohakonMySql it is04:18
Flannelhugoshi: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic support, thanks04:18
hugoshioh thanks04:18
matthew1so the new ubuntu is around the corner. if I do the update (from 9.04) will that reset my themes, settings etc?04:19
GreyWarethere are 1300 people in this channel04:19
takamarouAnyone know what to do about the pulseaudio memory leak bug in 9.10?04:19
histomatthew1: your settings will stay.04:19
crohakonits a good channel..04:19
NavyWifeHisto: Trying that now. Thought it was all closed04:19
slangocan HFS+ be mounted in Ubuntu?04:19
histo!karmic > takamarou04:19
ubottutakamarou, please see my private message04:19
histoNavyWife: yeah you typically get that error when more than one process is trying to install packages.04:19
DaZslango: imo yes04:19
DaZslango: try and tell us :f04:20
matthew1histo...so my borders, menus, background and conky will stay the same?04:20
NavyWifeHisto: Okay, done. Now will try to reinstall04:20
histoNavyWife: did you install the 1.0.1 from the repos?04:20
slangoDaZ: in your opinion? excuse me if I'm a little bit hesitant based on how you put that.04:20
NavyWifeHisto: Was just going to run the sudo to install now04:20
histomatthew1: Yes that stuff is all in your ~. Shouldn't touch anyting in your home04:20
axisysanyone help me fig out why multitouch does not work on my touchpad.. i am using ubuntu 9.04 on hp 6730b .. it used to work fine on my old laptop hp nc622004:20
Flannelslango: I don't believe so.04:20
histoNavyWife: well do sudo apt-cache showpkg wine  and make sure its the old versiont hat its seeing now.04:21
matthew1histo, fantastic thanks.04:21
DaZslango: if it's not fully supported it'd be read-only anyway04:21
axisysby multitouch i meant two finger tap04:21
NavyWifeHisto: It's reinstalling 1.1.31 good grief04:21
takamarouhisto, unfortunately, I did not choose to install 9.10.  I did a sudo aptitude full-upgrade, and was surprised with a beta version of 9.10.   Have you heard any solutions to the bug?04:21
russlarDaZ, slango: it'll mount read-write is you have the right packages installed04:21
histoNavyWife: well remove that. Make sure the third party repos are removed. Then sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude showpkg wine     it should show 1.0.104:22
histotakamarou: ask in #ubuntu+104:22
russlarslango: you'll want hfsprogs, hfsplus and hfsutils04:22
histoNavyWife: brb in a minute04:22
NavyWifeHisto: Thank you. I am trying to get this to work04:22
slangorusslar: is HFS+ an open file system?04:22
russlarslango: mostly04:23
slangothat is... is it safe to use often in Linux?04:23
]RandoM[i think this is isp related.. but now when i connect to irc the server says my hostname is too long and uses my IP instead.04:23
russlari don't think hfs is same to use anywhere, even on mac04:23
russlarbut I have used it04:23
slangorusslar: fair enough04:23
russlarbut those packages I listed will let you mount and make hfs+ filesysstems04:24
tehbautis Karmic stablizing fairly quickly?04:25
d0htemhopefully04:25
d0htemkarmic was @#!%!@# last time i used it04:25
BoxMagnetcan someone help me, can't get samba to work between 2 ubuntu boxes. for the life of me I have checked the settings 100 times.04:25
d0htembut its ok ill use jaunty forever04:25
tehbautI ran the first beta, but forgot why I stopped using it04:26
michaelhowardI thought the beta version would have some show stoppers in it. now i dont see why they didnt just release this as final? works perfect.04:26
Kaiusd0htem: Me too. Karmic. Bleh.04:26
histoNavyWife: okay what version is it showing now04:26
d0htemKaius: :D04:26
d0htemKaius: +104:26
NavyWifeHisto: 1.1.3104:26
tehbautlong live Lucid :D04:26
NavyWifeHisto: After the purge04:26
d0htemlol04:26
sebsebsebdougl:   Kaius   make sure you clean install the final of Karmic, otherwise yes it won't be that great04:26
histoNavyWife: did you run sudo aptitude update  ?04:26
sebsebsebdougl: wrong one04:26
sebsebsebd0htem: see above04:26
NavyWifeHisto: Um....04:26
NavyWifeHisto: Am now04:26
WanHousetehbaut: Slimey bitchman04:27
BoxMagnetcan someone help me, can't get samba to work between 2 ubuntu boxes. for the life of me I have checked the settings 100 times.04:27
Kaiussebsebseb: I'm waiting for it. I'll dl it again on the 29th or whatever.04:27
histoNavyWife: k then check the version with apt-cache showpkg wine04:27
BilliardBoxMagnet: can they ping eachother04:27
tehbautWanHouse: that bad, eh?04:27
sebsebsebKaius: Do a clean install :)  Ext4 by default and Grub 2 for clean installs04:27
BoxMagnetBilliard, yea, i can ssh in and remote desktop04:27
BoxMagnetBilliard, and it worked yesterday ...04:27
sebsebsebKaius: also the download servers will be packed on that day04:27
NavyWifeHisto: Waiting...04:27
Kaiussebsebseb: I'll wait. I'm happy with Jaunty in the meantime.04:28
d0htemsebsebseb: ?04:28
d0htemsee above what?04:28
WanHousetehbaut: Yeah, the windows morons that always try to priv us. Lady with alot of cats / ray charles :)04:28
sebsebsebd0htem: see when I messaged  Kaius04:28
WanHouseYOU SHOULD HAVE LEFT US AT THE LATAIR !!!04:29
WanHouseALTAIR04:29
BoxMagnetaltar.04:29
FlannelWanHouse: Please keep this channel ontopic.04:29
WanHouseDamn wimen :)04:29
NavyWifeHisto: Trying again04:29
d0htemsebsebseb: of course i did04:29
d0htemd0htem: it was really buggy and it complained about my broken ass hd04:29
d0htemwhich was nice but seriously got on my nerves04:29
sebsebsebd0htem: oh you mean it wanted to disk check on every boot up?04:30
d0htemno04:30
d0htemgave me hd health warning after sign in04:30
sebsebsebd0htem: ok well maybe there is something wrong with your hard drive04:30
d0htemoh yeah definetly but even though it was REALLY buggy04:30
histoNavyWife: could be that you have the 1.1.31 package in your archives.  You may have to sudo aptitude purge wine && sudo aptitude clean04:30
d0htemgrub2 looks awesome though!04:30
BoxMagnetcan someone help me, can't get samba to work between 2 ubuntu boxes. for the life of me I have checked the settings 100 times. http://pastebin.com/m569bc42f04:31
pistymanhas anybody else had this problem:04:31
pistymani go to display preferences and the window pops up, but it is it blank and the whole computer slows down until i force quit it, and one cpu is running at 100% the whole time04:31
sebsebsebd0htem: it looks the same to me04:31
tehbautFlannel: I thought he was talking about Karmic (since that's all I was talking about, and he replied to me)04:31
histoNavyWife: then you should be able to sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install wine04:31
tehbautheh04:31
NavyWifeHisto: Running sudo aptitude clean now04:31
histoNavyWife: That will delete all the cahced packages then you can sudo aptitude update and you should see the old version.04:32
Johannes[iPhone]Hi04:32
NavyWifeHisto: AH HA!04:33
progesteronequestion: On Window, we used to install program under c:/programs. How about on Ubuntu?04:33
NavyWifeHisto: Take THAT Linux04:33
BoxMagnetprogesterone, /usr/bin04:33
progesteroneBoxMagnet Thanks04:33
BoxMagnetprogesterone, thats for the executable files only.04:33
BoxMagnetprogesterone, configurations go in /etc/04:34
histoNavyWife: I take it you can install the old version of wine now?04:34
progesteroneBoxMagnet ok ... Thanks buddy04:34
BoxMagnetcan someone help me, can't get samba to work between 2 ubuntu boxes. for the life of me I have checked the settings 100 times. http://pastebin.com/m569bc42f04:34
NavyWifeHisto: It installed!04:34
sebsebsebprogesterone: add/remove, synaptic, or the command line04:34
histoNavyWife: cool. Sorry I forgot about the apt cache04:34
NavyWifeHisto: I think you may be my hero of the day!04:34
crohakonSo... how do I see what is running from console04:35
BoxMagnetcrohakon, top04:35
NavyWifeHisto: Going to attempt my game now. May be back04:35
m0r0nMy cd isn't reading, anyone know any how to fix this?04:35
sebsebsebprogesterone: the actsaul program files for programs, you don't noramlley need to know where those go,   user data though goes in hidden .folders in home, and if you remove for example .mozilla or move it, and re open FIrefox, it's like you just installed Firefox for a first time04:35
BoxMagnetNavyWife, what game?04:35
Billiardm0r0n: windex?04:35
NavyWifeBoxMagnet: EQ204:35
histoNavyWife: k good luck04:35
NavyWife :D04:36
m0r0nBilliard: The CD is clean.04:36
NavyWifehisto: Thanks again04:36
BoxMagneteq2 not familliar, i just setup starcraft today for something to do lol.04:36
histoNavyWife: np04:36
NavyWifeAhhh04:36
Billiardm0r0n: does the cd work in other machines?04:36
NavyWifeGreat game, EXCEPT on Linux I am learning04:36
DaZnew sc2 battle report is out04:36
DaZbtw :f04:36
m0r0nBilliard: Yes sir.04:36
BoxMagnetanyone who knows samba around!?04:37
Billiardm0r0n: what happens when trying to read on non working machine?04:37
histoNavyWife: you ahve to remember you are trying to ram a square peg in a round hole.04:37
histo!ask | BoxMagnet04:37
ubottuBoxMagnet: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)04:37
NavyWifeHisto: Isn't THAT the truth04:37
BoxMagnethisto, I did ask it a few times with a link to the pastebin04:37
crohakonWhat is a good ftp client for gnome?04:37
BoxMagnetcan someone help me, can't get samba to work between 2 ubuntu boxes. for the life of me I have checked the settings 100 times. http://pastebin.com/m569bc42f04:37
progesteronesebsebseb Thanks04:37
m0r0nBilliard: Non-working machine? the disk drive just blinks green and then stops, in Ubuntu but not windows, windows it appears to be fine04:38
sebsebsebprogesterone: np04:38
histoBoxMagnet: sry didn't see you asking. I'm unable to browse to links though to see your pastebin right now. I'm in cli while memtesting a machien i'm working on.04:38
sebsebsebprogesterone: sudo apt-get install program that's how simple it is to do using the termianl for most04:38
Billiardm0r0n: do any discs work in your ubuntu?04:38
histoBoxMagnet: what is the problem with it?  You can see the other machine in Places > Network04:38
BoxMagnethisto, no, only network, but it used to show up and I have changed no settings to my knowledge04:39
m0r0nBilliard: None04:39
BoxMagnethisto, i can ssh in and remote desktop ...04:39
histoBoxMagnet: what about trying to browse to the IP or connect to the server via IP?04:39
BoxMagnethisto, how do i go about that?04:39
m0r0nBilliard: However, it was working before, the lastest tweak I did was delete Eclipse and Netbeans04:40
crohakonWhat is a good gui ftp client? Filezilla will not install for somereason, I guess because it will not run on 64 bit?04:40
Freddy_007Anyone have experience getting Tomcat to work with Apache2 ?04:40
BoxMagnethisto, ok, it says failed to receive share list from server04:40
histoBoxMagnet: I believeyou can connect to server via the Places menu if not try under Appolications > Internet  There should be a connect to server option. Or you can open nautilus and enter the //theip04:40
m0r0nBilliard: Odd, or maybe not, after I closed GParted it started to work, thanks anyways04:40
Billiardm0r0n: ok04:41
histoBoxMagnet: are you sure samba is running on the machine? /etc/init.d/samba status04:41
BoxMagneton the server?04:41
histoBoxMagnet: yes sudo /etc/init.d/samba status04:41
Bossmanbetahow do you force ubuntuone to sync with the cloud? No one's answering in #ubuntuone. I tried disconnecting/re-connecting, doesn't seem to work and I've added files I don't see in the web interface.04:41
BoxMagnethisto, ok, ill be shocked its not running why the heck is that04:41
pistymanok i worked it out04:41
BoxMagnethisto, i know how to (re)start it.04:41
epaphusHello, how do I disable umass in the kernel of ubuntu?04:42
epaphususb support that is04:42
histoBoxMagnet: k make sure its running and listening. You can see if its listening with netstat04:42
WanHouseReminds me, Im supposed to ask if i can get rid of some nice because of a booring factor or something04:42
BoxMagnetepaphus, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf04:42
axisys!automate04:42
ubottuWays to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning04:42
horntest04:42
tehbautis it possible to get a list of all commands/apps?04:43
WanHousedike04:43
hornhi,everybody04:43
crohakonNo one is willing to recommend a gui ftp client? =(04:43
histoBoxMagnet: netstat -ta should show smtp04:43
Bossmanbetacrohakon, filezilla04:43
histoBoxMagnet: sry04:43
tehbautI swear I've installed some toolbox app but I can't figure out how to access it04:43
crohakonubuntu will not allow filezilla to install because it says it will not run on x6404:43
crohakonotherwise, yes, I would use filezilla04:43
BoxMagnethisto, yes?04:44
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Freddy_007Anyone have experience getting Tomcat to work with Apache2 ?04:44
_MrsApple_hello, i dl a couple of reaallly short clips and they didnt show up on my desk top. where can i find them, and also the screen that shows how far along they were downloaded?04:44
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crohakonthough it is odd... filezilla installed and worked just fine on opensuse x64.... *innocent expression*04:44
m0r0nWindows reads FAT32 right?04:44
senuphow can i tell my default gateway04:44
pistymanwhen i try to install the driver from here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx it doesnt work. it says it cant detect the characer coding04:44
Billiardm0r0n: yes04:44
BoxMagnetm0r0n, yes..04:44
othmanright04:44
Bossmanbetacrohakon, https://www.ohloh.net/projects/filezilla/download?filename=FileZilla_3.2.8.1_x86_64-linux-gnu.tar.bz204:44
crohakonoh, that is helpful. Thank you bossmanbeta. =)04:45
Billiardm0r0n: most flash drives are formatted fat3204:45
histoBoxMagnet: scratch that i'm not sure if you are going to see it listening on 13904:45
Bossmanbetasure crohakon04:45
m0r0nI formatted my flash drive to FAT32, now with the USB creater thing, it's not letting me install on it04:45
Bossmanbetahow do you force ubuntuone to sync with the cloud? No one's answering in #ubuntuone. I tried disconnecting/re-connecting, doesn't seem to work and I've added files I don't see in the web interface.04:45
Billiardm0r0n: install what?04:45
hornwhois billiard04:45
BoxMagnethisto, it was there, i just restarted samba04:45
histoBoxMagnet: did that help at all?04:45
m0r0nBilliard: Ubuntu04:46
Billiardm0r0n: dont install ubuntu on fat3204:46
BoxMagnethisto, no.04:46
hornquit04:46
m0r0nBilliard: I made a ext3 partition, but the installer saw only the fat3204:46
Bossmanbetacrohakon, also here: http://www.getdeb.net/app/FileZilla for the .deb's04:46
epaphusBoxMagnet, is it necessary to restart after editing the blacklist?04:46
falseruneshelp with alsa-base.conf04:47
crohakonwhat is a deb?04:47
BoxMagnetepaphus, use sudo rmmod modname04:47
Billiardm0r0n: fat32 has no permissions, im not sure if ubuntu will even let you install to it04:47
BoxMagnetepaphus, rmod04:47
Bossmanbetacrohakon, auto install for ubuntu -- no make config04:47
falserunesI want my /dev/dsp1 to output to /dev/dsp004:47
BoxMagnetepaphus, ok sorry it is rmmod04:47
othmanhow to run 32 bit software in ubuntu 64 ?04:47
falserunesdoes anyone know how to configure that04:47
crohakonoh nice. You are most helpful bossmanbeta.04:47
Bossmanbetasure crohakon -- cheers04:48
crohakonWait... is ubuntu based on debian?04:48
falserunesthanks for the help ahead of time04:48
Billiardothman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47479004:48
Bossmanbetacrohakon, yes04:48
othmanthx04:48
BoxMagnethisto, any ideas04:49
mb_again_!debian04:49
ubottuUbuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!04:49
histoBoxMagnet: i'll let you know once I get a gui up to take a look at your paste bin04:49
crohakonWow... I have come back to my roots and did not even know it. The first linux dist I ever poked around in was debian. I remember ordering the CD's when I was like 16. lol Nice.04:49
BoxMagnethisto, ok04:49
histoBoxMagnet: firewall issue maybe?04:49
ezzieyguywufI have a question for any scipy users: is there a way to solve equations in scipy like the solve() function in my ti-89? on the ti-89 I can input an equation with any number of variables and solve in terms of that variabl.04:49
BoxMagnethisto, sorry forgot about your situation.04:49
Bossmanbetacrohakon, welcome back.04:49
Billiardezzieyguywuf: qalc does this i know04:50
Bossmanbetacrohakon, .deb's are li ke .RPM's04:50
Bossmanbeta(fyi)04:50
ezzieyguywufBilliard: i'll google it04:50
BoxMagnethisto, need i open ports on router?04:50
Billiardezzieyguywuf: its in the repos, just apt-get install qalc04:50
ezzieyguywufBilliard: is it a python module?04:51
Bossmanbetahow do you force ubuntuone to sync with the cloud? No one's answering in #ubuntuone. I tried disconnecting/re-connecting, doesn't seem to work and I've added files I don't see in the web interface.04:51
Billiardezzieyguywuf: no its a standalone program04:51
ezzieyguywufBilliard: I'll check it out04:51
Billiardezzieyguywuf: there is a gui version qalculate04:51
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tehbautis it possible to allow a 5 char root password?04:52
russlartehbaut: possible: yes04:52
russlartehbaut: a good idea? no04:53
sebsebsebtehbaut: recommended though, nope04:53
crohakonftp default port is 21, yes?04:53
BoxMagnetyes04:53
sebsebseb!noroot |  tehbaut04:53
navapcrohakon: Yes04:53
ubottutehbaut: We do not support having a root password set. See !root and !wfm for more information.04:53
tehbautI know, I know04:53
mb_again_ezzieyguywuf: it looks like solving is a proposal for enhancement in scipy at the moment see http://www.scipy.org/SolversProposal?highlight=(solver)04:53
russlar!wfm ?04:53
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about wfm ?04:53
tehbautI was told to enable it for vmware04:53
russlar!wfm04:53
ubottuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/04:53
crohakonSo, with ubuntu server edition... is an ftp server installed by default or must I install it post install?04:53
ezzieyguywufmb_again_: I've been told to check out sympy. currently doing that...04:53
sebsebsebcrohakon: #ubuntu-server for help with it04:54
russlarcrohakon: if you didn't select it in the installer, no04:54
Freddy_007crohakon: I think you need to select it during install04:54
crohakonI did not see it in the installer =( Okay, I will go elsewhere with my questions. hehe04:54
bastid_raZorcrohakon: the server plus the desktop come with a command line ftp.. it is called scp04:54
sebsebsebcrohakon: well you can get help in here as well I guess04:54
BoxMagnetwill ubuntu run much better on a PCI sata controller+sataII drive, than a normal IDE drive04:56
* histo Hates bad ram been banging my head against the wall for a while on this one.04:57
histoBoxMagnet: it will have faster read/write times to the drive and data transfers04:58
BoxMagnethisto, how long does memtest take?04:58
histoBoxMagnet: for ever04:58
histoBoxMagnet: Now I just have to figure out which stick it is.04:58
BoxMagnethisto, good, i have a nice promise sataII controller+WD caviar 320gb 16mb sataII on the way04:59
BoxMagnetfor my older media server.04:59
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histoBoxMagnet: a lot faster than ide04:59
histoBoxMagnet: you can find stats online for speed ratings of sata compaired to ide etc...04:59
epaphusIs there anyway I can get ubuntu to rescan my NIC, or is that done upon kernel boot?04:59
histoepaphus: what do you mean look for an ip again?05:00
BoxMagnethisto, as long as the controller is bootable I will be happy, I hear ubuntu 9,04 supports it out of the box, but if i cant use it as the main drive then im real disapointed. thats why I went with an expensive controller05:00
russlarepaphus: do you just want a different ip?05:00
epaphushisto, russlar no.. its not onfiguring the device.. for some weird reason05:00
histoepaphus: does it see the device?  lspci05:00
BoxMagnetepaphus, if you want a dif ip from the isp etc. you need to change the mac of the nic if i remember correctly.05:00
russlarepaphus: hmmm.... wired?05:00
progesteronequestion: is JRE or JDK pre-installed on Ubuntu?05:00
lilzeusIm confused, I have 2 ubuntu machines on home network, both have samba installed, I have shared a folder on one, how do I access it from the other?05:01
histoepaphus: and has it ever worked?05:01
Freddy_007progesterone: don't think so05:01
thiebaudeprogesterone,java isn't default on ubuntu05:01
BoxMagnetlilzeus, i wish i knew.05:01
histolilzeus: Places > Network  Or you can mount the share05:01
thiebaudeyou have to install it05:01
progesteroneFreddy_007 thiebaude Thanks05:01
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thiebaudeprogesterone, np05:01
lilzeushisto: the share does not show up in Places > Network05:02
lilzeusBoxMagnet: I think you probably DO know05:02
histolilzeus: he's having the same problem.05:02
lilzeus;)05:02
BoxMagnetlilzeus, nope, mine does not work05:02
BoxMagnetworked yesterday though05:02
histomine just works05:02
BoxMagnetg4u ;-)05:02
histoBoxMagnet: did you install any updates?05:02
BoxMagnethisto, nope.05:03
BoxMagnetbeen working on the other machine05:03
lilzeusBoxMagnet: I know you are better at this stuff than me, figured you were being sarcastic, no disrespect :)05:03
histoBoxMagnet: thats just odd. Something had to have changed.05:03
histolilzeus: how did you create your share?05:03
BoxMagnetlilzeus, haha, dude im happy to help i do know the answers to alot of stuff because i have a photographic memory.05:03
epaphushisto, if I use the 9.04 live cd it does. and this is the 9.04 kernel05:03
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BoxMagnetlilzeus, what are you using to configure samba05:04
lilzeushisto: right clicked on folder, Sharing Options05:04
histoepaphus: what tyep of network card is it?05:04
lilzeusBoxMagnet: I modified the smb.conf file...so I guess gedit?05:04
russlarepaphus: take a look at /etc/udev/70-persistent-net.rules05:04
russlarepaphus: make sure it's listed in there05:04
histolilzeus: try installing smbtree  see if you can see the share with that05:05
BoxMagnetlilzeus, open a pm i think i figured it out05:05
BoxMagnethaha!05:05
histoBoxMagnet: what was your issue?05:05
lilzeusI made the workgroup the same name as the workgroup name my windows machines are using MSHOME05:05
speedHello everyone05:05
BoxMagnetusershare owner only = false05:05
speedwould anyone be able to help me with ATI xpress 200m drivers?05:05
histoBoxMagnet: that should be the default05:06
BoxMagnetgreat05:06
BoxMagnetit worked like two times. now its broken again!05:06
lilzeushisto: all I see in Nework is "Windows Network" and when I click on that it says05:07
BoxMagnetwhen I try to right click share + add share I get this. 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: share name /home/pete contains invalid characters (any of %<>*?|/\+=;:",)05:07
histoBoxMagnet: I don't even have that line in my smb.conf05:07
BoxMagnetwhat the hell05:07
histoBoxMagnet: is there a spacke or wierd character in your ~?05:08
BoxMagnethisto, no, if i change it to something else, i get this... 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot share path /home/pete/storage as we are restricted to only sharing directories we own.05:08
BoxMagnetAsk the administrator to add the line "usershare owner only = false"05:08
BoxMagnetto the [global] section of the smb.conf to allow this05:08
histolilzeus: try connecting directly to the ip from windows05:08
histoBoxMagnet: Whats your security line set to?05:09
BoxMagnetuser05:09
histoBoxMagnet: do you want it to prompt you?05:09
pitputhow do I add a sound adjusting icon on my panel?05:09
BoxMagnethisto, no.05:09
histoBoxMagnet: you could try changing it to share instead of user.05:09
linden940i need some help...05:10
BoxMagnethisto, ok05:10
lilzeushisto: I just want two ubuntu machines to talk to each other...file sharing-wise05:10
linden940i am pulling my hair05:10
thiebaudepitput, right click panel, add to panel05:10
linden940can anyone here help me plez?05:10
jony123my screen seems very dim athlough its connected to the powe apadter05:10
Etheronly on linux machine?05:11
pitputthiebaude, i'm using 9.10 and i don't see it when i right click and press add to panel05:11
histolilzeus: try connnecting to it via ip05:11
Ethercould be a backlight out if it always does it05:11
lilzeushisto: in both machines, the smb.conf file has the workgroup set to MSHOME05:11
histopitput: 9.10 support is in #ubuntu+105:11
BoxMagnethisto, did not work05:11
neoneddyAnyone ever had cifs or smbfs shares mount fine, but not display files?05:11
thiebaudepitput, drag and drop sound from the menu to the panel, i just did it05:11
Billiardlinden940: what is the problem05:11
thiebaudein 9.1005:11
histoBoxMagnet: make sure the share is public = yes and guest ok = yes   You can also force user and force group so that the file permissions don't get all goofy when someone writes to it.05:12
lilzeushisto: I lied, one of them was set to WORKGROUP05:12
BoxMagnethisto, ok will try05:12
histoBoxMagnet: also make sure you share name doesn't have some goofy space or something int he smb.conf05:12
speedokay right now i'm installing Envy; Is there any recommendations for using it to get ATI drivers setup?05:13
histolilzeus: that could be an issue also smbtree will show you a graphical map of the network in cli05:13
lilzeusI modified the smb.conf so that it says MSHOME now...is restart sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart?05:13
epaphusrusslar, is it normal that i have 4 entires in there?05:13
histo!envy | speed05:13
ubottuspeed: EnvyNG is a program to install newer version of nVidia or ATi drivers, it can be found in !Universe as "envyng-gtk" (for Gtk/Gnome) or "envyng-qt" (for Qt/KDE). It is NOT a supported method to install video drivers; please only use it if standard methods fail and at your own risk - See also !BinaryDriver05:13
shawn_shawn_ > !list05:13
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histospeed: NOT a supported method (key words)05:13
BoxMagnethisto, share modes = yes for my share05:13
BoxMagnet?05:13
histobox?05:14
pshr_hey any idea on how to convert a html (URL given) to convert all the links in it to form a single file like chm, for eg i have http://c-faq.com/~scs/cgi-bin/faqcat.cgi how to convert that into a single compilation05:14
neoneddyI should clarify, this only happens with my Apple AirDisk share from the Airport Extreme05:14
neoneddyworked fine, before I installed 9.04 fresh05:14
speedthanks histo05:14
neoneddyupgraded to 9.10 still no dice05:14
BoxMagnethisto, ?05:15
lilzeusBoxMagnet or histo: is restart for samba 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart' ?05:15
BoxMagnetyes05:15
shawn_!list05:15
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network). If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »05:15
shawn_What does !list even do I heard a channel say not to use it?05:15
histoBoxMagnet: I don't understand what you meant by share modes = yes05:16
lilzeuswell, this machine the samba restart went fine, the other one had errors05:16
russlarepaphus: do you have 4 network cards?05:16
BoxMagnethisto, its in smb.conf under one of my shares05:16
histoshawn_: in some filesharing channels it would list all the bots that are serving05:16
shawn_histo Oh never been to a filesharing channel05:16
histoBoxMagnet: don't have it in mine.05:16
epaphusrusslar, i onlyhave 105:17
BoxMagnethisto, ok..05:17
histoBoxMagnet: I wish I could paste my share no way to copy and paste in cli that i'm using though.05:17
bastid_raZorhisto: can you install pastebinit from where you are?05:17
russlarepaphus: try regenerating that file05:18
russlarsudo /lib/udev/write_net_rules05:18
lilzeus-webok guys, this is me on the other ubuntu machine05:18
pitputhow do I add a sound adjusting icon on my panel?05:19
epaphusrusslar, the output is that is missing $INTERFACE05:19
pitputthe ubuntu +1 isn't smart enough to solve my problem05:20
russlar!spam05:20
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about spam05:20
thiebaudepitput, drag and drop sound from your menu to the panel05:20
russlarepaphus: try rebooting, then05:20
russlarepaphus: other than that, I have no idea05:20
lilzeusnow when I double click the Windows Network, nothing shows up05:20
lilzeuswtf05:21
histobastid_raZor: yes thats an option05:21
einand_now knowlage, empathy is the worst irc client ever made ;)05:21
einand_new05:21
thiebaudeeinand_, it seems incomplete05:22
jordo2323Everytime I start Tomboy nothing happens and when I try to add the tomboy icon to a panel nothing happens either.  Any ideas?05:22
histoBoxMagnet: http://pastebinit.com/fd2403dd is my smb.conf05:22
einand_thiebaude: more ugly05:22
einand_thiebaude: there is noway to se who sais what05:23
thiebaudeeinand_, i stick with xchat or pidgin05:23
thiebaudeeinand_, i cant even set it up05:23
einand_thiebaude: i prefere irssi, but i will try this for a while05:23
BouquetI have 3 root partitions and a separate '/home' partition.  I did 'dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sda3 bs=10M' to copy my production partition to sda3 to test the upgrade.  I fixed /etc/fstab to set /=/dev/sda3, booted into it, and am ready to test the 9.10 upgrade process.  My /dev/sda1 production partition should be safe, right?05:23
histoBoxMagnet: ignore the last line with the guest ok = yes Idon't think that is needed.05:23
lilzeus-webSorry, 'www.pastebinit.com' does not exist or is not available.05:23
BoxMagnetyep.05:24
macolilzeus-web: pastebin.ca pastebin.com paste.ubuntu.com <-- these all exist05:24
histok let me change the program hold up05:24
histoBoxMagnet: paste.ubuntu.com/29730105:25
lilzeus-webhisto: the machine where I am sharing the folder, now displays Windows Network, and 2 shares05:25
histolilzeus-web: do you have samba installed on the other machine?05:26
lilzeus-webmaco: I was just listing the results when I clicked on histo's link :)05:26
epaphusHello, how can I upgrade ubuntu from the terminal?05:26
jordo2323Everytime I start Tomboy nothing happens and when I try to add the tomboy icon to a panel nothing happens either.  Any ideas?05:26
lilzeus-webhisto: yes of course, both machines have samba05:26
Flannelepaphus: From what version to what version?05:26
datzhi, how can I see if there are updates for a package?05:26
datzthrough terminal05:27
lilzeushisto: I am on the other machine now05:27
histodatz: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude showpkg <packagename>05:27
datzthanks05:27
Flanneldatz: For a specific package? `apt-cache policy package` is one way05:27
jony123Is there a way to incress screen brightness while plugged in?05:27
datzpackage "subersion"05:27
lilzeushisto: Places>Network only shows Windows Network05:27
histodatz: you could check the version against the one that is installed with dpkg -l | grep <package name>  or listen to flannels way05:27
macolilzeus-web: ah ok. i thought someone mentioned the pastebinit package and you were looking for a matching website05:27
datzoops subversion*05:27
epaphusFlannel, within.. just the packages.. for 9.1005:28
histolilzeus: yeah it should show that way then inside of there will be your workgroup.05:28
datzok05:28
histolilzeus: install smbtree on the machine that you have the share and run that.05:28
Flannelepaphus: What?  You want to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10?05:28
lilzeushisto: Unable to mount location05:28
progesteronequestion: What's 'll' command-equivalent on Ubuntu terminal?05:28
lilzeushisto: Failed to retrieve share list from server05:28
histoepaphus: in #ubuntu+1 is support for 9.1005:28
histolilzeus: when you run smbtree?05:29
lilzeushisto: on the machine sharing the folder, everything shows up fine05:29
lilzeushisto: on this machine is where I cannot access the other05:29
datzDoes this mean there is no later version: Installed: 1.4.6dfsg1-2ubuntu1.1 Candidate: 1.4.6dfsg1-2ubuntu1.105:29
Bouquetaw screw it, I'll just hit the big red button.05:30
Flanneldatz: Have you done apt-get update recently?05:30
histolilzeus: make sure you have samba-common on the machine that you can't access the other.05:30
thiebaudeepaphus, update-manager -d05:30
datzyes05:30
datzlet me try again05:30
Flanneldatz: It means that as of your last apt-get update there's no newer version05:30
datzok, so manually update?05:30
datzscreen -r irssi05:31
datzoops05:31
histodatz: sudo apt-get update then run the command again05:31
lilzeushisto: yep, samba-common appears to be on here05:31
* histo fingers crossed 90% pass with the bad stick removed hopefully memtest05:31
epaphusthiebaude, thanks.. i didnt explain myself well.05:31
thiebaudeepaphus, np05:32
BoxMagnethisto, ok, now it says its already registered05:32
BoxMagnetwhen i try to open the share05:32
BoxMagneti used ur smb.conf, edited of course.05:32
BoxMagnetand i added my self and samba quest account05:32
datzhisto, same thing...looks like I need later version though. svn: This client is too old to work with working copy05:32
BoxMagnetto my group05:32
* eclipse75 hugs BoxMagnet05:32
BoxMagneteclipse75, lol05:33
BoxMagneti think im going to kill my self soon05:33
BoxMagnetall i want to do is  watch a movie05:33
BoxMagnetarg05:33
histoBoxMagnet: you don't need users and guests with my smb.conf it just works and won't prompt for user pass when you connect.05:33
epaphusHey guys, i installed icewm ... but I need a login screen for it (instead of GDM) .. what can i use?05:33
Flanneldatz: There's an updated version (1.5.1) in hardy-backports05:33
datzthanks05:34
BoxMagnethisto, well it says already registered05:34
histoBoxMagnet: I really need my gui back to check but it will be a while perhaps someone else can help.  Thats just wierd. I don't get what is going on with you and lilzeus05:34
datzFlannel, do I have to add a repo?05:34
ZykoticK9epaphus, xdm - but it looks like it's from the 70s :(05:34
lilzeushisto: when I double click Windows Network from this machine, it is empty05:34
* datz looks05:34
BoxMagnetme too05:34
Flanneldatz: You need to enable backports, which could be seen as adding a repo.  I urge you not to enable -backports permanently, but just add it, update, install subversion, then remove it (don't upgrade)05:35
lilzeusthe other machine(the one sharing the folder) everything shows up fine05:35
Animagladius_Night.05:35
lilzeusgoing to try something05:36
lilzeusattempting to share a folder on THIS machine, and see if the other can see it05:36
datzFlannel, ok...I'm only on command line here...any tutorials?05:36
Flanneldatz: Yeah, it's easy.  Let me find one.05:36
datzthanks05:36
BoxMagnetok05:37
sam2hello I need some information on ubuntu......05:37
lilzeusarrrggg05:37
navap!ask | sam2 05:37
ubottusam2 : Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)05:37
epaphusZykoticK9, is that the only option? xdm and gdm?=05:37
Flanneldatz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine05:37
ZykoticK9epaphus, or kdm05:37
thiebaudesam2, what info?05:37
sam2I've been using fedora all these years , now I'm planning to shift to ubuntu..... I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS05:38
lilzeusnow when I double click Windows Network, it opens and I see the workgroup(MSHOME), but when I double click that, I get that same 'unable to mount' error05:38
datzFlannel, thanks05:38
sam2Will yum update work in ubuntu???05:38
thiebaudesam2, what is your questions to the channel?05:38
thiebaudesam2, no05:38
sam2Will yum update work in ubuntu???05:38
linden940anyone that would call them selfs a pro with the xorg.conf?05:38
Flannelsam2: No, Ubuntu uses apt instead of rpm, but there's an equivalent command05:38
Billiardsam2: in ubuntu you will use apt-get update05:39
lilzeus-webso weird05:39
linden940anyone that would call them self a pro with xorg.conf? if so plez help me out here05:39
lilzeus-webthis machine can see its own shares05:39
sam2ohhh.... k.... now after I install ubuntu, how to install KDE ??05:39
Flannel!anyone | lilzeus-web05:39
ubottulilzeus-web: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?05:39
lilzeus-webthe other cannot05:39
Flanneler,05:39
Flannel!anyone | linden94005:39
ubottulinden940: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?05:39
Flannelsam2: You'll be better off installing Kubuntu (assuming you just want KDE) instead of switching afterwards05:40
Flannelsam2: If you want both KDE and Gnome, just install the kubuntu-desktop package05:40
lilzeus-webI am going to restart the other machine, see if that helps05:40
datzFlannel, uncomment this? #deb https://edge.launchpad.net/~kklimonda/+archive/backports hardy main05:41
histoBoxMagnet: I just booted a livecd and I can connect to my share with that smb.conf on my server05:41
sam2Yes I actually want both kde and gnome....05:41
Flanneldatz: No.  You want deb http://[your regular archive URL]/ubuntu hardy-backports main restricted universe multiverse05:41
lilzeus-weblilzeus will be back05:41
lilzeus-web:)05:41
linden940can anyone help me mod the xorg.conf...i could use some help05:41
BoxMagnetlilzeus-web,05:41
sam2so after i install ubuntu how to get the kde??05:41
Flannelsam2: Alright, then it's as easy as installing "kubuntu-desktop"05:41
BoxMagnetgot ur problem solved buddy05:41
lilzeus-webreally?05:42
histolinden940: whats the problem?05:42
DaZlinden940: protip: ask exactly what you want to do :f05:42
linden940when i reboot my pc my res is real low05:42
histolinden940: what type of video card do you have?05:42
ZykoticK9linden940, are you able to pastebin your current xorg file - and tell the channel what you want changed.05:42
thiebaude!synaptic | sam205:42
ubottusam2: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto05:42
linden940so from all the reading i have been doing and as far as i have gotin i have been told that if i can mod the xorg.conf it would fix my promble05:42
linden940nvidia05:43
sam2should i give his command sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop ???05:43
BoxMagnetlilzeus-web, pm05:43
datzFlannel, humm, not seeing it, I guess I should find one to add?05:43
Flanneldatz: What package manager are you using?05:43
thiebaudelinden940, which nvidia?05:43
Billiardsam2: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:43
linden940not sure05:43
linden940lol05:43
histoBoxMagnet: Now i'm writing to it with out a problem05:43
linden940i 4got looking it up05:44
thiebaudelinden940, what problem are you having?05:44
datzFlannel, using gome..ubuntu 8.04  default one I guess05:44
datzgnome*05:44
histolinden940: lspci | grep VGA should show you the chipset05:44
sam2ohhh cool05:44
thiebaudelinden940, i have nvidia 8400 gs05:44
BoxMagnethisto, im using ssh now05:44
linden940when i reboot my pc the res is very small and i cant see anything05:44
lilzeus-webweird05:44
Flanneldatz: Alright, lets just drop to the command line since it'll be easier to help you.  Close whatever you're looking at (package manager), and then do this in a terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:44
sam2how to get the nvidia drivers ..... i ususlly face a hell lot of problem in fedora05:44
lilzeus-webthis machine can see its own shares, the other cannot see its own shares05:44
thiebaudelinden940, System-administration-hardware drivers05:44
datzFlannel, I'm using only command line05:44
epaphusIf X can be used with a client to connect to a remote X server.. is there a limit then to have 20 LAN users run everything remotely? (like firefox and office) what are the limitations?05:45
histolinden940: install the restricted drivers as thiebaude suggested05:45
Flanneldatz: Oh, wait.  hah, wrong question, sorry.05:45
Billiardsam2: its very easy in ubuntu, there will be a popup that 3rd party drivers are availiable05:45
thiebaudelinden940, then let ubuntu search for the drivers and pick the recommended one05:45
datzFlannel, yea, don't want kubuntu. :)05:45
linden940its nvidia accelerated graphics driver ver 18005:45
datznp05:45
Flanneldatz: You're looking for backports?  Yeah, ok, what are some of your other deb https://[url] stuff stuff URLs?  archive.ubuntu.com?  cc.archive.ubuntu.com?05:45
linden940i did that05:45
linden940it wont work05:45
thiebaudelinden940, i used 180 in 9.04 but now 185 in 9.1005:45
histoepaphus: you would be limited by the resources on the server ex: if it can't handle running 20 instances of firefox locally its not going to with forwarding X05:46
linden940i have the recommended one on05:46
sam2wow.... thanks Billiard..... hopin to have a nice time with ububtu.... will start right away05:46
thiebaudelinden940, what did it say?05:46
BoxMagnetlilzeus-web, open a pm with me05:46
BoxMagneti got an idea for you05:46
sam2thanks all for your support05:46
epaphushisto, firefox would run in the remote server.. right?05:46
thiebaudelinden940, gksudo nvidia-settings05:46
linden940well i am useing the 18005:46
linden940and it wont work05:46
datzFlannel: http://pastebin.com/m3460f5a305:46
histoepaphus: yeah then it would just forward X over ssh05:46
epaphushisto, what actually needs installed in the local machine for this?05:46
thiebaudelinden940, can you do that in a terminal?05:47
blenderpcQuestion: Best App for managing music and working with Ipod05:47
Flanneldatz: Add this: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-backports main restricted universe multiverse05:47
histoepaphus: you'll still need atleast a minimal X server on the local machine then you could forward the apps05:47
histoepaphus: google X forwarding05:47
Flanneldatz: then save, update, install subversion, and then comment that line out.05:47
histoepaphus: someone else may know a more modern way like a thin client if thats what you are trying to do?05:48
datzFlannel, ok thanks05:48
thiebaudelinden940, do you have nvidia-settings?05:48
linden940yea05:48
linden940its up05:48
thiebaudelinden940, choose you resolution , hit apply and then save to X configuration05:49
datzFlannel, great, thanks working. :)05:49
linden940i have done the save to x configuration and it still wont work05:49
epaphushisto, right.. but thin clients would be based on this... wouldnt it?05:49
Roastedquestion - if I CD into a directory in terminal that I own, why can't I run chmod 775 *.* for all files within the directory? I know I could run chmod -R 775 /media/storage, but if I want /media/storage to have 770, and all contents inside to have 775, that means I have to run chmod -R 775 /media/storage, then chmod 770 /media/storage to get the perms I want. Why cant I run it with *.* in a directory?05:49
linden940when i reboot its back 2 bein small05:49
thiebaudelinden940, it then save to xorg.conf05:49
linden940i did that05:49
thiebaudelinden940, your doing something wrong05:49
linden940let me reboot...let me see if it works now..05:49
thiebaudeok05:49
mb_again_roasted: are you trying to change permissions on read only media?05:50
linden940i have been doing this for like 5+hrs05:50
BilliardRoasted: you can whats the error?05:50
thiebaudelinden940, wow, too long, nvidia is great with ubuntu05:50
histoepaphus: no looks liek the way is with LTSP search on help.ubuntu.com for ltsp i'm reading about it now it sounds like what you want.05:50
Roastedmb_again - No. I just like to have certain permissions on the mount point, and certain permissions on all files inside.05:50
Roastedbilliard - it just says no file or directory.05:50
linden940lol its not working good 4 me05:50
linden940ok i will be back in a sec05:50
wizzo50Hi, is there a program to run to save your data here on Ubuntu as a backup and then reinstall on another computer for Windows 7?05:50
thiebaudeok05:50
BilliardRoasted:  are your files in the form *.*05:50
Roastedbilliard - I'm CD'd into the directory, so when I run chmod 775 *.* I figured it would just apply to all contents of the folder.05:50
ZykoticK9Roasted, don't use "*.*" in unix!  that would mean ONLY files with an extension!  just use * for everything05:50
RoastedBilliard - I was assuming *.* was the wildcard, including ALL files.05:50
BilliardRoasted:  * is all file05:51
Roastedzykotick9 - so if I run chmod  775 * wi thin /media/storage, all files within storage would get 775 perms?05:51
Roasteddamnit I need to stay away from windows :P I use *.* a lot in windows.05:51
histoepaphus: with LTSP the clients don't need any local storage05:51
ZykoticK9Roasted, not sure about your specific problem just pointing out the *.* problem05:51
datzFlannel, lol...still too old. :P05:51
Roastedzykotick9 - worked with chmod 775 *05:52
Roastedbilliard, mb_again, zykotick9 - thanks!05:52
datzFlannel, install manually?05:52
Billiardnp05:52
jessehow can i install vmware surver?05:53
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wizzo50Is there a program to run to save your data here on Ubuntu as a backup and then reinstall on another computer for Windows 7?05:53
epaphushisto, right..i think thats about the entire difference.. or does the kernel actually load in the RAM of the client vrs the X frowarding loads EVERYTHING from network.. right?05:54
Guest49024how can i install VMware server?05:54
linden940same damm thing05:54
linden940i had the small screen again05:54
Flanneldatz: Still too old?  What version of subversion are you dealing with on the server?05:55
thiebaudelinden940, and you said 180 drivers are installed05:55
linden940yes they r05:55
Guest49024i have no ideo...05:55
Guest49024idea05:55
datzFlannel, just asked someone to see if they could check out the same project, they could with 1.4.205:55
thiebaudelinden940, and you did gksudo nvidia-settings05:55
wizzo50How can I backup my data on here to save when I reinstall ubuntu with Windows?05:55
datzFlannel, must be some other problem05:55
linden940yes05:55
Flanneldatz: You're trying to read a directory that's already under version control?05:56
histoepaphus: Both can accomplish the same thing with X forwarding you will need a X environment on the clients. With LTSP you don't need anything on the clients other than a boot disk to connect tot he LTSP server05:56
Guest49024how can i install vmware server?05:56
Flanneldatz: As in, someone checked it out, and now you're trying to use it from the disk?05:56
thiebaudelinden940, i dont know05:56
linden940yea...thats y i have been doing this for hrs now05:56
linden940lol05:56
mb_again_!vmware05:56
ubottuVMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware05:56
Guest49024how can i install vm-ware server?05:56
epaphushisto, right.. but then again.. the part iam interested is that the kernel gets loaded in the RAM entirely.. would this be right?05:56
histowizzo50: do you have somewhere to put your data? like an extra drive or thumb drive etc..?05:56
thiebaudelinden940, you on 9.04?05:56
datzFlannel, they were able to check out the same source with an older client05:57
Guest49024what ,an../05:57
ZykoticK9linden940, in a terminal run "gksudo nvidia-settings" make your changes - then click the save to xorg button -- reboot and it will be saved :)05:57
linden940yea05:57
Flanneldatz: right, what are you trying to do?05:57
wizzo50Yea05:57
datzFlannel "svn update sharelin"05:57
thiebaudeZykoticK9, he did05:57
linden940zyk i have done just that a sec again05:57
Ma5t3rw1ttHey everyone05:57
wizzo50histo: yes05:57
histoepaphus: I don't think LTSP is forwarding the kernel to ram. Its running on the server I believe. But don't quote me i've never used it.05:57
linden940i have done that like 100times05:57
histowizzo50: then just copy the files from your /home/wizzo50 and that will be everything.05:57
Flanneldatz: Try checking out to a new folder05:57
datzFlannel: svn: This client is too old to work with working copy 'sharelin'.05:57
thiebaude!envy05:58
ubottuEnvyNG is a program to install newer version of nVidia or ATi drivers, it can be found in !Universe as "envyng-gtk" (for Gtk/Gnome) or "envyng-qt" (for Qt/KDE). It is NOT a supported method to install video drivers; please only use it if standard methods fail and at your own risk - See also !BinaryDriver05:58
datzyea, I tried updating another project, that worked..05:58
wizzo50histo: ok05:58
wizzo50histo: thanks05:58
linden940this the "preview" of the code being saved05:58
linden940Section "Monitor"05:58
linden940    Identifier     "Monitor0"05:58
linden940    VendorName     "Unknown"05:58
linden940    ModelName      "LPL"05:58
linden940    HorizSync       30.0 - 75.005:58
FloodBot1linden940: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.05:58
linden940so...what do u think?05:59
histoepaphus: the easiest way to explain it is its like terminal services05:59
neoneddyAny Samba Ninjas present ?06:00
datzFlannel, yea, just rm dir and checking out fresh06:01
epaphushisto, thank you.. this is just what i need and ive been searching for weeks06:01
histoepaphus: looks like they are working to make it easier to set up with each release06:02
epaphusi hope its stable though :)06:02
thiebaudelinden940, i'am puzzled about your problem and have no other options to try06:02
dotjsdhello channel06:02
linden940thanks06:03
c0l2ehow can I disable Switch User when I log-out ??06:03
thiebaudelinden940, np06:03
linden940do u think the 9.10 would fix it?06:03
thiebaudelinden940, i dont know06:03
eltewDoes anyone know how I can map my windows key to open up the Panel menu?  I'm unable to do it unless I use it in combination with another key.06:03
thiebaudelinden940, you'll have the 185 drivers in 9.1006:03
linden940yea06:04
thiebaudeinstead of 18006:04
linden940is there a ez way 2 update 2 9.10 now?06:04
linden940*with out doing the iso thing*06:04
thiebaudelinden940, update-manager -d06:04
histoepaphus: there saying it is06:04
linden940ty06:04
thiebaudenp06:05
thiebaudelinden940, burning the alternate cd didn't take long for me at all06:05
linden940upgradeing now06:05
thiebaudeok06:05
linden940hope that fixs it06:05
thiebaudelinden940, good luck with it06:06
linden940thiebaude are u useing amd or intel?06:06
thiebaudelinden940, amd dual core opteron 16506:06
thiebaudeyea, amd06:06
linden940then u r the same as me06:06
thiebaudeit should work for you06:06
linden940hmmm i wounder y it dos not work 4 me but it dos 4 u06:06
thiebaudelinden940, i had no problems at all, and i did a fresh install06:07
linden940well i went from the 8.something 2 this 9.0406:07
linden940maybe that was part of it?06:07
thiebaudelinden940, i burned ti alternate cd because it has less then 700 mb06:08
linden940*i had the 8.10 cd...just used that when my pc crashed with windows06:08
thiebaudethe06:08
bobbob1016I'm trying to recreate a mdadm array on a different PC, and it says "device or resource busy" on each drive, and it can't create it because of that, any ideas?06:08
linden940hmm06:08
* raid0 back06:09
linden940wb06:09
linden940so how is the 9.10?06:10
thiebaudelinden940, its nice06:10
thiebaudeand wobbly windows,lol06:10
linden940lol06:10
linden940i like that06:10
linden940it looks cool an dif06:10
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DegotHi, all. I have several folders and i want to give several users read/write access to these folders. how can i make this?06:11
* thiebaude goes away06:11
SeaPhorDegot, are these folders in 1 parent directory?06:12
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DegotSeaPhor, yes, but there are also another folders... problem not in structure....06:13
accidhmm06:14
accidim installing ubuntu via virtual pc, when i get to the main screen it does not lalow me to click enter to select INSTALL UBUNTU06:14
BilliardDegot: change the group of the directories give group rw permissions on the dir, add users to the group06:14
Billiardaccid: you clicked on the virtual pc window to capture the keyboard?06:15
ramkeyis this the place for newbs to ask questions?06:15
DegotSeaPhor, problem is... if i create group with r/w access and will make chown grpname:grpname then chmod g+w folder.... then, if one of user will create file in this folder, will be able others to change/delete this file ?06:16
BilliardDegot: not if you set the sticky bit06:16
SeaPhorDegot, then you create a group, make these users members of that group, chown that parent dir with -R user:newgroup aand then chmod  it with the rights u choose,,, 770 or whatever,,,,06:16
ramkeyi got a question... how do I as the primary admin user write a text file to root/etc/udev?06:16
DegotBilliard: can you give me info about stricky bit?   link or something06:17
SeaPhorDegot, yes06:17
BilliardDegot: wiki: chmod +t dir   then only the dir owner, root, or file owner can delete06:17
infid_degot sticky bit is mostly for directories, so other users can't rm stuff if they dont own it06:17
ramkeyanyone know how to write a text file to the root?06:17
infid_degot like how the /tmp behaves06:17
navapramkey: `sudo touch file`06:18
DegotAll , thank you...i`ll read wiki about this ))06:19
ramkeynavap, file being my file name?06:19
navapYes, if you want to edit it you could do `sudo nano file` instead.06:19
ramkeyCould not save the file /etc/udev/rules.d/60-happuage-pvr2usb.rules.06:21
ramkeyarghhh06:21
tehbautin gedit, the drag n' drop scrolling is a bit too sensitive for my tastes06:21
tehbautis it possible to customize the sensitivity on that?06:22
Billiardramkey: what command did you use06:25
ramkeysudo touch06:25
Billiardramkey: then what06:25
ramkeyi have a simple udev file i want to place so my usb tv card will work in mythtv06:25
ramkeyi already have the text file written and saved on desktop of admin user06:25
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ramkeyi can not however, get it to save in the root/etc/udev directory06:26
Billiardramkey: you can just move it into the rules.d directory06:26
ramkeyit won't let me06:26
ramkeyand i don't know why06:26
linden940damm i been up a long time06:26
Billiarduse sudo06:26
ramkeythanks billaird06:29
ramkeyBilliard06:29
settntrenzI've got ubuntu running on my ps3 but cannot get sound to work. I'm using HDMI out of ps3 into a yamaha receiver. Sound works out of native ps3. Please see some output http://pastebin.com/d1b912f50 I've tried using asoundconf to select both PS3 and Pulse and messed with the volume control applet and alsamixer to make sure its not muted06:32
settntrenzAny idea's what to try next?06:32
matydmy kids got to my desktop today and somehow got the system tray widget spanned out across the whole panel at the bottom of the screen and i can not for the life of me figure out how to resize it down. as it stands right now, i can see any apps i have open because that is taking up the whole panel06:34
matydany advice?06:34
Billiardramkey: np06:34
StumpieI want to build a mini ITX system for my dad, so he can watch youtube, and recive and send his email from his television. is Ubuntu compatible with this kind of graphics card and motherboard?06:34
Stumpiehttp://www.ewiz.com/desc.php?name=MB-ION-A-U06:34
matydrunning kubuntu btw06:34
ramkeywhere is the better location to put firmware drivers in Ubuntu? /lib/firmware ?06:37
settntrenzStumpie: I see the board has HDMI. You may find yourself in a similar debacle as I am right now with ps3 (no sound out of HDMI)06:37
Stumpiethankyou settntrenz  :)06:37
xenoterracidedoes ubuntu or canonical have any kind of page for people who are thinking of upgrading? why it's different? why it's better than the alternatives?06:38
tmahow can i run a check disk on a memory stick formated with fat32?06:38
Stumpietma, i think QTparted does scans for fat 16 and fat3206:39
tmaStumpie,  qtparted?06:39
Stumpie!qtparted06:40
ubottuQtParted is a !Qt/!KDE !GUI partitioning program. Use !Adept !KPackageKit or !Synaptic to install or type « sudo apt-get install qtparted » in a console. - QtParted is no longer available in Jaunty (9.04) and up, see !PartitionManager06:40
Stumpiebummer :(06:40
navap!partitionmanager06:40
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:40
tmaStumpie, oh, i'm on gnome ... gparted does it too, but i think it doesnt work too god with fat32 partitions06:40
navap!PartitionManager06:40
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:40
tmaStumpie, was thinking of something like dosfsck06:42
Stumpiechkdsk06:42
Stumpiesorry, that probably does not work either06:42
DigitalKiwilol eeebuntu is moving to debian? epic06:42
ramkeyhey, supernewb question ... is there a shortcut kkey to get to terminal?06:42
tmaStumpie, well .... thx anyway06:43
Stumpiejust wait, someone else might know06:43
kupadfsck06:44
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matydnone of the applications i'm running is showing up in my panel06:46
RaskHey guys... easy question about partitioning.  :)  Any advantage to putting the swap partition in front of the root partition, or should one do it the other way round?06:47
navapPreferably I think they should be on different drives. If they're on the same drive it shouldn't matter which is before the other.06:48
RaskWell, let me fill in some more details... I'm trying to do software RAID 1.06:49
RaskDo both drives need a swap partition, or how does that work?06:49
FlannelRask: swap is just used instead of RAM, so you only need one06:50
FlannelRask: Oh06:50
FlannelRask: yeah, I believe both drives need one, because they're mirrored.  But you should have twice the swap?  They certainly don't need to be backed up.  I'm going to back out of this conversation now, since I have no idea what I'm talking about.06:51
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Stumpie!mini ITX06:52
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about mini ITX06:52
RaskHm.  I've never gone through this process before, perhaps I basically pretend like my primary drive is my only drive, then set the second one up to mirror it...06:52
navapRaiding the swap doesn't make sense to me either, at least not in a raid 1. If it were a raid 5 or something like that then it might make sense. I'm not sure though.06:52
francispereira_.06:53
jony123How to i reload fonts06:53
jony123?06:53
matt___i am needing help with the panel in my gui, kids got to it today while i was at work and now i can't see the applications i'm running on it and the widgets take up the whole panel.06:55
matt___how can i fix this in kubuntu?06:55
* matt___ is a newb 06:55
Blueymatt___: I know how to fix gnome but not kde - sorry06:55
ashutoshhi any cvs browsing utility in ubuntu?06:55
matt___so i tried a restart and now identd isnt working heh06:55
matt___thnx anyway bluey06:56
Blueymatt___: I've had problems with identd - I solved it by going to nullident06:56
matt___i'll install that thnx bluey06:57
anoehi all, how are u doing06:57
Blueymatt___: hang on I've a link on how to do it..06:57
matt___k06:57
Blueymatt___: try this:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=11506:57
Stumpieanyone know of a company making mini-itx systems with Ubuntu on them?06:58
KruyKazehi ubuntuers! is it safe to buy any bleutooth dongle or will i run into compatibility issues?06:58
Stumpiedepends on the dongle KruyKaze06:58
Stumpiewhat brand, and model?06:58
KruyKazeis there a list of compatible dongles?06:58
matt___k will give it a look bluey06:58
Stumpie!comaptible list06:59
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about comaptible list06:59
KruyKazehttp://www.dinodirect.com/Small-USB-2-0-Bluetooth-Dongle-Adapter-for-PC-Notebook-Laptop-Grey.html06:59
RaskStumpie:  logicsupply.com might.06:59
Stumpiethanks rask :D06:59
Bluey!hcl | stumpie06:59
ubottustumpie: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection06:59
Raskhttp://www.logicsupply.com/categories/ubuntu_linux_systems  In fact, they do.  :O06:59
settntrenzKruyKaze: I bought a rocketfish dongle and it worked06:59
KruyKazei was looking for the smallest possible07:00
settntrenzKruyKaze: its super small usb dongle07:00
KruyKazelike on the link i posted07:00
RaskStumpie:  Logic Supply, in my experience, has perhaps not quite the lowest prices ever, but they have excellent, knowledgable support07:00
settntrenzKruyKaze: so small its a pain to remove actually07:00
KruyKazelol07:00
KruyKazethat's good07:00
settntrenzKruyKaze: its almost flush when installed07:00
RaskStumpie:  Had a DC board fail in a case probably six months after I bought it originally, they shipped a replacement out to me no charge07:00
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KruyKazerocket fish?07:00
BlueyKruyKaze: not recommended to folks with arthritis..07:01
settntrenzyeah, let me see if I can find link07:01
KruyKaze:D thanks07:01
Stumpieawesome rask, i want to make a settop box for my dad to watch internet TV, and get email07:01
settntrenzhttp://www.rocketfishproducts.com/p-125-rocketfish-micro-bluetooth-21-edr-usb-adapter.aspx07:01
Stumpiewould be nice with a hard disk and DVD burner too :D07:01
anoegot a question. I am using an asus EEE 901 notebook with ubuntu studio (last version) over ubuntu 9.04. My lcd screen is 1024x600. My problem is, ardour GTK2 uses windows bigger than my resolution size. I've tried to include a virtual 1280 1024 and modes "1024x600" "1200x1024" in xorg.conf, ad xrandr -q list 1200x1024 as a correcto mode, but when using xrandr -s 1200x1024 it says not  available mode. I would like to have a virtual s07:01
anoecreenn bigger than my real screen, and then moving around with the mouse (like old liinux distros)07:01
KruyKazeawesome07:02
KruyKazehow much is it?07:02
settntrenzanoe: I know its possible (my co-worker has that on his eee) but thats all the help I'll be since I really dislike that mode I've never configured07:02
settntrenzKruyKaze: Bestbuy had it for like twenty something bucks07:03
settntrenzKruyKaze: it was in the cell phone section07:03
Crayboffalright i've got a shell account in another timezone, what's the command to change it to EST?07:03
KruyKazeis 2.0 good enough for a headset?07:03
BlueyCrayboff: technically we are still on daylight saving time till nov 107:04
settntrenzKruyKaze: not sure, used mine for kb/mouse07:04
CrayboffBluey: uhh what?07:05
settntrenzKruyKaze: USB 2 should be fast enough for even ulaw voice convos07:06
KruyKazesweet thanks alot07:06
tstebut~pastebin07:06
settntrenzso, who knows how to make my ps3 HDMI audio work? no sound for my home theatre system kind of defeats the purpose.07:07
Blueysettntrenz: we're a ubuntu help channel (hence #ubuntu) maybe try --- #ps3 ?07:07
settntrenzBluey: joe@ps3buntu:~$ uname -a07:08
settntrenzLinux ps3buntu 2.6.28-6-powerpc64-smp #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 09:59:41 UTC 2009 ppc64 GNU/Linux07:08
Blueysettntrenz: you want to change the host name?07:08
settntrenzBluey: no. I want my audio to work07:09
Flannelsettntrenz: try #ubuntu-ps307:09
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settntrenzFlannel: nice! thanks I was wondering if there was a dedicated channel07:09
tstebutHello07:09
cewkihgjhjhjhujj07:09
tstebutHas anybody already installed an oracle database here ?07:09
tstebut(I mean on ubuntu)07:10
settntrenzFlannel: 5 ppl in there :( ::hoping for quality over quantity::07:10
* Bluey doesn't know anyone that has done oracle - except for maybe the seti folks07:11
narutohi07:11
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settntrenztstebut: Sorry can't help. I've only installed 10g Express on CentOS and that was via RPM07:11
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tstebutSo is there a way to install RPM packages ??07:13
Blueytstebut: on ubuntu -- yes07:13
Blueytstebut: i don't honestly remember what I did though.....07:13
tstebuthah07:13
n8tuseralien07:13
fantomasHi. How to change parameters of connection when connecting using "Connect to server"? For example, I want to change mask, uid, etc when mouting via SSH or FTP07:13
Blueyn8tuser: tht's it!07:13
tstebutwhat is alien07:13
Bluey!alien07:14
ubottuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous and unsupported)07:14
BellinXFelonhow can i prevent attacks on my computer by hackers and unwanted people07:14
Blueytstebut: I remember I had to do that with the light scribe package iirc07:14
darthanubisBellinXFelon, could you be more vague?07:15
BlueyBellinXFelon: edit hosts.deny to deny all entries07:15
tstebuthmmmm07:15
duckx0ri have ubuntu netbook remix installed on one of my netbooks and it worked fine for a while, but now for some reason it doesn't load the panel upon startup or the window manager (i.e. windows don't have any decorations and I can't move, resize, etc). How can I fix this?07:15
darthanubisBellinXFelon, turn it off07:15
BellinXFelondarthanubis : specifically, how can I enable my firewall07:15
darthanubisunhook from the web and lock in closet07:15
histo!firewall | BellinXFelon07:16
ubottuBellinXFelon: Ubuntu, like any other linux  distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Uncomplicated_Firewall_ufw), or 'iptables' (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo). GUI applications such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist07:16
darthanubis!firewall | BellinXFelon07:16
phantomcircuitthe libtorrent-rasterbar-dev package is broken07:16
phantomcircuithttp://pastebin.com/m2c3dd09407:16
Bluey"My!  People come and go so quickly here."07:18
alabdGood day everyone , What are best    mental games for ubuntu ?07:19
darthanubis!best07:19
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.07:19
nimrodcant print from acroread07:19
Blueynimrod: just acroread?  have you tried other apps?07:20
TheKroevery time I "save and quit" firefox, it seems to quit cleanly, but outputs "segmentation fault".  any idea on how i can trace what's causing that?07:21
BlueyTheKro: what version?07:22
TheKroBluey: 3.0.1407:22
BlueyTheKro: you might want to upgrade to ff 3.507:22
nimrodyep!i can print from document viewer07:22
Blueynimrod:  kewl!07:23
nimrodthanks!07:23
TheKroBluey: i'm still on jaunty, with recommended package versions.  last time I tried 3.5 it was a disaster.07:23
darthanubislol 3.5 a disaster?07:23
darthanubisthat is just not believable07:23
BlueyTheKro: :-/ I've had some problems with 3.5 - but not a disaster...07:24
nimrodwill try that.was just wondering if i had to install something for it to print,or maybe it was just my printer.07:24
Blueynimrod:  I use document viewer and I've had no problems with it...07:24
nimrodme too07:25
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TheKroi couldn't exit it at all without killing the process07:25
Blueynimrod: and I've a ghetto printer....07:25
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BlueyTheKro: why are you using an older version of ubuntu?07:25
TheKroolder? karmic isn't released yet, AFAIK07:26
nimrodghetto printer?07:27
nimrodlol07:27
BlueyTheKro: I don't know names just version numbers --07:27
TheKrowell, i've got 9.0407:27
TheKrowhich is the "current" version, to my knowledge07:27
Blueynimrod:  an hp psc-1315 - about 7 years old now...07:27
BellinXFelonwhat else can i do to secure my computer besides activate my firewall?07:28
BlueyTheKro: okay my bad07:28
BlueyBellinXFelon: lock down hosts.deny --07:28
BellinXFelonbluey : how do i do that07:28
BellinXFelonBluey : how do I do that07:28
BlueyBellinXFelon: I have this line in my hosts.deny --07:29
BlueyBellinXFelon: ALL:ALL EXCEPT LOCA07:29
Blueyoops  ALL:ALL EXCEPT LOCAL07:29
SpiceManBellinXFelon: man hosts_access07:29
nimrodwas not even in the IT..far.07:29
BellinXFelonBluey : I am new to linux, how can i open the file to edit07:29
SpiceManBellinXFelon: you want to read the manual before editing stuff07:30
SpiceManBellinXFelon: or you're going to need to reinstall linux over and over :P07:30
BlueyBellinXFelon: first make a backup copy of the file -- sudo cp /etc/hosts.deny hosts.deny.org (or something you will remember)07:30
histoAnyway to see if the installer is doing anything?  Its sitting at "Setting up parittioner" Scanning disks 47% just stuck there07:31
jasonmchristoshello, would someone please tell me why autocomplete of email addreses is not working in ubuntu jaunty under evolution?07:31
macojasonmchristos: do you have it enabled for your address books? (i havent used evo in almost a year so i dont know where that setting is anymore, sorry)07:31
Blueyjasonmchristos: sorry I use thunderbird - don't know...07:32
jasonmchristosmaco: yes it is enabled marked07:32
jasonmchristosmaco: do you use thunderbird aswell?07:32
BellinXFelonBluey : ok07:32
macojasonmchristos: no, i use kmail07:32
macojasonmchristos: well really, all of kontact... kmail, kaddressbook, korganizer...07:33
jasonmchristosi se07:33
BlueyBellinXFelon: next gksudo /etc/hosts.deny then add that line -- ALL:ALL EXCEPT LOCAL07:33
BlueyBellinXFelon: that's easier then using nano --07:33
jasonmchristosdoes anyone know why ubuntu comes default with evolution instead of tbird07:33
BellinXFelonBluey : done07:33
BlueyBellinXFelon: save and exit07:34
BellinXFelonBluey : how do I save07:34
BellinXFelonBluey : restart?07:34
BlueyBellinXFelon: NO07:34
BlueyBellinXFelon: just file and save07:34
StumpieI was about to pay for a usenet account, then I realized, perhaps I could set up a usenet server, and log in for free with ubuntu? Can I make a Usenet server? TIA07:34
wrapsterwhere will the 64bit libs be present? /usr/lib/amd64 ?07:35
wrapsteris it the only location or anywhere else ?07:35
BlueyBellinXFelon: think NOTEPAD07:35
BellinXFelonBluey : thank you07:35
BellinXFelonBluey : it had me install save07:36
BlueyBellinXFelon: you control who access your machine through hosts.allow07:36
BlueyBellinXFelon: what?07:36
fantomasHow to cofigure Nautilus and specifically its Connect to server feature?07:36
BlueyBellinXFelon: it's just like notepad in windows - file/save07:36
spaghettiStumpie: Yes, you can make what you call a "Usenet server"07:36
BellinXFelonBluey : ALL : ALL EXCEPT LOCAL07:36
BellinXFelonoops07:36
BellinXFelonThe program 'save' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:07:37
BellinXFelonsudo apt-get install atfs07:37
BlueyBellinXFelon: you put that in the file yes?07:37
BellinXFelonBluey : yes07:37
fufuQ: the install updates screen that comes up when OS starts.. why is it that there are so many updates all the time? if i update today.. i know im going to get more tomorrow. and some of those files are 5mb 8mb.. I dont even have a lot of programs on my computer..so whats up with the updates?07:37
BellinXFelonBluey : in terminal07:37
BlueyBellinXFelon: i've never heard of atfs07:37
BlueyBellinXFelon: private message ok?07:37
BellinXFelonBluey : yea sure07:37
Billiardfufu: are you using the beta?07:38
fufuare those updates legit?07:38
fufui dont know07:38
fufuhow do i check07:38
Rebelstarhello ppl, i need some help. i installed ubuntu 9.04..everything was working fine, i wanted root access, so i modified some file based on a suggestion in some forum and i restarted the system to find that the audio is not working. what can i do ?07:38
fufu Ubuntu 9.0407:38
fufu                - the Jaunty Jackalope - released in April 2009.07:38
fufu07:38
fufuthats what i have...07:38
Billiardfufu: thats the latest release, you get updates when programs are updated is thats just how it is07:39
astridHello, I need a bit of help with fluxbox startup scripting07:40
fufuhow much updates do you get though? I understand updates but sometimes I wander if the programs are legit.. because some of the files are so big07:40
Angel-SLHey.07:40
Rebelstarhello ppl, i need some help. i installed ubuntu 9.04..everything was working fine, i wanted root access, so i modified some file based on a suggestion in some forum and i restarted the system to find that the audio is not working. what can i do ?07:40
BilliardRebelstar: change taht file back07:40
fufuAnd these updates have names that no-one can understand..07:41
Rebelstari did that07:41
BilliardRebelstar: what file07:41
Rebelstarbut still it is not working07:41
Angel-SLhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/297323/ How to fix?07:41
Billiardfufu: names like what?07:41
ActionParsnipRebelstar: you dont NEED root access, you have sudoi and gksudo. Did you not read those on your forums too?07:41
Angel-SLRebelstar: sudo passwd07:41
Angel-SLset the password07:41
Angel-SLand su up.07:41
Angel-SL:|07:41
FloodBot1Angel-SL: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.07:41
Rebelstarit was not in this forum07:41
Rebelstarit was a blog07:41
ActionParsnip!root | Rebelstar07:41
ubottuRebelstar: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo07:41
fufulib files07:41
ActionParsnipRebelstar: i'd reinstall and stay off root07:42
Rebelstaris there no other way07:42
fufuBilliard: ok check this out. I open my update manager and there is 115MB of checked updates..07:42
ActionParsnipif you can't undo what you did and its a fresh install i'd say cut your losses07:43
fufuHow is that normal?07:43
BilliardRebelstar: what file did you change that made you lose audio07:43
Billiardfufu: what are the updates for?07:43
fufuThe heading of the updates is "important security updates"07:44
Rebelstari did this07:44
Rebelstar       Login as Root on Ubuntu 9.04 August 12, 2009 in LInux,  Ubuntu | Tags: access root, login as root, login ubuntu, root, root access, root login ubuntu, root ubuntu   Basically in all linux OS we can access root for login. But in ubuntu by default that option is not enabled. if you want to have root login then you have to do some hack on ubuntu OS   Just follow the below step for login as root. And do everything as you want   . S07:44
Rebelstarsorry07:44
narutoghina07:44
fufua lot of the files start with lib*07:44
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Angel-SLhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/297323/ How to fix?07:44
Guest11562dd07:44
BilliardRebelstar: what file did you change07:45
ElijahCMenifeefufu, Depends on what all is being updated the used diskspace afterwards can either go up or down based on the size difference of the new packages, you make have to download 200meg but after appling the removal of the old versions may gain you a net 10meg of additional space.07:45
Rebelstar sudo gedit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf07:45
Rebelstargdm.conf07:45
astridI tried the #fluxbox but nobody is there. I added to the startup script in .fluxbox a few lines to restart alsa and set the volumes to unmute, but it doesn't seem to have any effect.07:45
Rebelstarset  AllowRoot=false to true07:45
ElijahCMenifeeRebelstar, please use pastbin or provide link to url07:46
JabberWalkieRebelstar: enabling the root user is not supported on this channel07:46
Rebelstarhttp://saeed05.wordpress.com/2009/08/12/login-as-root-on-ubuntu-9-04/07:46
Rebelstarhere it is07:46
BilliardRebelstar: that shouldnt affect audio07:46
ActionParsnipRebelstar: have you noticed how all ubuntu guides contain the word sudo ?07:46
Rebelstaryes07:46
BilliardRebelstar: i wouldnt log in as root though07:46
Rebelstarafter this istarted using sudo07:46
ActionParsnipRebelstar: do you know what that is?07:46
astridRebelstar: Have you noticed that everyone is telling you not to log in as root? Wow. It's quite incredible.07:46
Rebelstarto get ownership07:46
BilliardRebelstar: did you change something while logged in as root07:47
ActionParsnipRebelstar: its the entire reason you never need root, the account is actually disabled by default07:47
ActionParsnipRebelstar: sudo gives you the equivelant power of root without needing the account07:47
ramkeyanyone know how to fix the ATi HD4650 driver problem?07:47
Rebelstarsorry i dint know that wheni changed it for the first time07:47
ActionParsnipRebelstar: so you now never need root07:47
Rebelstarsudo should be fine now07:47
Angel-SLErm, anyone? > http://paste.ubuntu.com/297323/ how to fix?07:48
Rebelstarbut audio is the problem..i need it back07:48
ActionParsnipRebelstar: it is and always will be but you will never need to log in as root, o even touch the account07:48
Rebelstar:(07:48
ElijahCMenifeeWell ActionParsnip I would never say never, I do have a legitamate reason for root login(never no when ldap is going to go down with no actaul local users...)07:48
BilliardRebelstar: what did you change while logged in as root?07:48
fufuOk it shows 80MB of "Important security Updates" i will install all of them and restart my comp..i will see if it gives me more "Security updates"07:48
Rebelstarwell infact i could not login as root after following that step,,,so i restared07:49
Rebelstarthe system07:49
ActionParsnipRebelstar: if you run: sudo lshw -C sound07:49
Rebelstarand audio was out07:49
ActionParsnipRebelstar: will tell you the sound chip, you can then set it up as if it never worked07:49
fufulibicu38, libglib2.0-0 libglib2.0-data.. hows  a regular user suppose to understand that..07:49
ActionParsnipElijahCMenifee: i'd say, use sudo -s     gives a root shell, there is no need for root07:50
Rebelstari got this07:50
Rebelstarsudo lshw -C sound07:50
ActionParsnipRebelstar: use a pastebin07:50
ActionParsnip!paste07:50
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com (or !pastebinit for CLI) | For pasting !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin Please give us the URLs for your posts!07:50
Rebelstar description: Audio device07:50
Rebelstar       product: 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller07:50
Rebelstar       vendor: Intel Corporation07:50
Rebelstar       physical id: 1b07:50
Rebelstar       bus info: pci@0000:00:1b.007:50
Rebelstar       version: 0307:50
FloodBot1Rebelstar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.07:50
ElijahCMenifeeActionParsnip, not if there is no local user, and user credentials are on the LDAP server that just when belly up, its either root or hope you hace live-Cd handy...07:50
ramkeydid ATI/AMD stop support of linux drivers?07:51
ActionParsnipElijahCMenifee: true but very specific. I'd at least have 1 user on each system07:51
ramkeydid ati/amd stop supporting linux drivers?07:51
ActionParsnipRebelstar: i told you to use a pastebin07:51
ElijahCMenifeeActionParsnip, I do have one user on every system (root ;0) but I have been sysadmining for a long long time...07:52
Rebelstarsorry ,using for the first time..sorry07:52
Rebelstarhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/297325/07:52
ActionParsnipElijahCMenifee: i'd have a non root account instad which can sudo, but thats just m07:52
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ElijahCMenifeeActionParsnip, Depending on the problem single user boot as root can be very useful, system requires a root user even if by default it was disabled.07:54
ElijahCMenifeeActionParsnip, Emergency backdoor access for production servers is very useful.07:54
Blueybackdoor conjures up the wrong images....07:55
Rebelstar ActionParsnip, pls find the output i got in http://paste.ubuntu.com/297325/07:55
ActionParsnipElijahCMenifee: ok but for a desktop user who has just installed?07:55
ActionParsnipRebelstar: yeah i read it, just web searching07:56
X2daYfDaBYcAhow can I get mkv support in vlc07:57
ActionParsnip!codecs | X2daYfDaBYcA07:57
ubottuX2daYfDaBYcA: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:57
ElijahCMenifeeActionParsnip, In complete agreement with you there only needed as specific circumstances(i did say never say never....) , as I have said been sysadmining long time and have been bitten by a disabled root account for emergency hardware/software repair07:57
Blueyokay off for awhile - but I did enjoy this:  http://www.bash.org/?90583307:57
ActionParsnipElijahCMenifee: how can we modprobe "HDA Intel" ?07:58
ActionParsnipElijahCMenifee: as it has a space07:58
ActionParsnipthink i got it07:59
ElijahCMenifeeActionParsnip, I would rename the file to HDA_Intel07:59
ActionParsnipRebelstar: try this:07:59
ActionParsnipRebelstar: sudo rmmod snd_hda_intel; sleep 2; sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel07:59
ActionParsnipElijahCMenifee: appears it has a different real module name08:00
RebelstarActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/297326/, i get error08:01
ElijahCMenifeeActionParsnip, On my local box(karmic) their is a snd-hda-intel.ko available08:01
icarus-chow to request a new IP from dhcp?  (or can i?)08:01
kusanagi_is there anyway to force whatever is using swap memory to use regular memory?08:01
ElijahCMenifeeActionParsnip, Note the - not the _08:02
ActionParsnipicarus-c: sudo dhclient <interface name>08:02
narutohi08:02
ActionParsnipkusanagi_: you can set swappiness higher and lower, higher = more swap space used, lower = system tries to keep processes in ram08:03
icarus-cActionParsnip: would that really change a new IP?08:03
ActionParsnipkusanagi_: otherwise the kernel will analyse the activities and swap what is needed08:03
ActionParsnipicarus-c: you would request a new IP, weather or not its different or the same is up to the dhcp server08:04
kusanagi_ActionParsnip, my comp is going really slow lately (dunno why) but i noticed im using 20% of swap and the regular ram memory is only at 60%... could that be it?08:04
ActionParsnipkusanagi_: possibly, how much ram do you have?08:04
kusanagi_2Gb08:04
ActionParsnipthats loads, my most powerful pc has that08:04
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zirodaykusanagi_: are you running a VM of any sort?08:05
kusanagi_ziroday, no08:05
kusanagi_can i send watever is in swap to ram?08:05
zirodaykusanagi_: can you pastebin the output of free -m please08:05
ActionParsnipkusanagi_: run: gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf08:05
zirodaykusanagi_: also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#Performance%20tuning%20with%20%27%27swappiness%27%2708:06
ActionParsnipkusanagi_: search for vm.swappiness        and change it to vm.swappiness=1008:06
ActionParsnipkusanagi_: you can then save the file and run: sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=10    to save having to reboot08:06
kusanagi_http://pastebin.com/d2aa4a9d108:06
mneptokkusanagi_: or run "sudo swapoff -a"08:07
zirodaykusanagi_: hardly any of your swap is used, I doubt that's the reason for your computer being slow08:07
ActionParsnipkusanagi_: you can run: top     to see whats using most cpu08:07
kusanagi_firefox without a doubt08:07
mneptokkusanagi_: or install htop, which is a bit more featureful08:08
ActionParsnipyep, firefox is garbage08:08
kusanagi_but ive used ff with more tabs than i currently have and it wasnt this slow08:08
ActionParsnipfirefox uses more cou that: yes > /dev/null08:08
kusanagi_maybe a tab is leaking or sumthing?08:08
mneptokkusanagi_: do you have Flash content being displayed?08:09
kusanagi_only 1 video08:09
kusanagi_and its a 10 min youtube video08:09
ActionParsnipkusanagi_: i'd try the swappiness thing, you have a lot of ram to fly at so you should be ok08:09
mneptokkusanagi_: that's enough. Adobe's Flash implementation for Linux leaves a lot to be desired.08:09
kusanagi_:/ can a tab be leaking and causing all this?08:10
ActionParsnipi wish adobe would get smart and open up flash08:10
kusanagi_ActionParsnip, we all do08:10
mneptokkusanagi_: get rid of the Flash08:10
mneptokkusanagi_: i'll wager that's it08:10
RebelstarActionParsnip: it says ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use08:10
ActionParsnipkusanagi_: also reduce plugins and skins too, they take up ram too08:10
ActionParsnipRebelstar: hmm08:11
kusanagi_i restarted ff and its ok now08:11
kusanagi_i guess i wont be able to detect what was it now08:11
kusanagi_but in a few hours is gonna be again slow08:11
ActionParsnipRebelstar: thats the module (and sub modules that help it) that give you sound08:11
mneptokkusanagi_: open *only* that video08:11
kusanagi_ive been like this for 2 days08:11
ActionParsnipRebelstar: maybe your card needs so extra options08:11
kusanagi_thanks guys :D08:12
RebelstarActionParsnip: one more thing, when i say audio is out,there is still buzz sound08:12
skxI am trying to compile and install kydpdict but running into a problem I can't debug (at the end of the log, obviously) http://pastebin.com/d46f24249, any idea?08:12
ActionParsnipRebelstar: are the sliders cranked high?08:12
Rebelstaryes08:12
ActionParsnipRebelstar: for volume08:12
indushello folks08:12
Rebelstaryes08:12
kusanagi_btw, when is a going to run flash smoothly on linux? :(08:12
skxkusanagi_, never, flash sux08:13
indusprobably when 11 comes out08:13
ActionParsnipkusanagi_: ask adobe, they hold the key08:13
kusanagi_skx, we are doom then08:13
kusanagi_coz everthing is flash08:13
ActionParsnipor java08:13
skxI don't feel doomed nor compelled to watch hd movies in flash08:13
skxanyway, I am trying to compile and install kydpdict but running into a problem I can't debug (at the end of the log, obviously) http://pastebin.com/d46f24249, any ideas? :)08:13
ActionParsnipfirefox 3.7 makes it use less but its flakier than colin the lepper08:14
mneptokActionParsnip: Adobe opening Flash will not help much08:15
mneptokActionParsnip: the code is beyond crufty, and has significant amounts of ASM08:15
ActionParsnipmneptok: but it surely can be analysed and made nicer08:15
kusanagi_ActionParsnip, can we like buy it the patent and make it free?08:15
kusanagi_cant*08:15
zirodayI'm sure donating (time. money, cookies) to the gnash project would help08:15
ActionParsnipmneptok: mozilla did it with the code for nutscrape08:15
mneptokActionParsnip: how many skilled ASM coders do you know? how many of them want to work on AV crap in their free time?08:16
mneptokActionParsnip: Netscape was not ASM08:16
ActionParsnipmneptok: its was a joke, none really but i get your point08:16
RebelstarActionParsnip::shall i reinstall ubuntu08:16
ActionParsnipmneptok: it is a step in the right direction though08:16
mneptokC-variant coders are cheap and plentiful. ASM ... not so much.08:16
ActionParsnipRebelstar: i would if no one else can advise. I'm not so good at sound card stuff08:17
RebelstarActionParsnip:thanks a lot for ur help08:17
ActionParsnipRebelstar: np man08:17
kusanagi_Rebelstar, i dont know what sound issues did u have08:17
kusanagi_but im gonna tell what gave the sound back08:17
jabagaweeoh no, my zipfile is corrupt because it has 50GB of extra data in it08:18
kusanagi_rm ~/.pulse*08:18
jabagaweeincidentally, it should contain a 50GB file, that i really really need08:18
jabagaweehow can i get it out?08:18
xim_how can i modify the contents of a text (config) file automatically from a shell script?08:18
kusanagi_jabagawee, what kind of file is in the zip?08:18
jabagaweeit was the Documents/ folder of an old computer08:19
jabagaweewith a truecrypt archive08:19
xim_is there a shell command which finds lines of text and replaces them?08:19
jabagaweethat i basically dumped everything in08:19
Rebelstarkusanagi: i http://paste.ubuntu.com/297329/08:19
Billiardxim_: sed08:19
Rebelstarkusanagi: iget that msg08:19
jabagaweeexact error: http://pastebin.com/m50494a08:19
xim_Billiard: thx08:19
necromnicondoes anyone know of a good Usenet download program that supports video streaming?08:20
kusanagi_jabagawee,  :S if its encripted i dont know if thats possible08:20
jabagaweekusanagi_, the zipfile isn't encrypted. but there's a tc archive inside the zip08:20
FinnishAny kdenlive users around? I can't render to ogg today, but yesterday it was possible?08:20
jabagaweeand it's of ridiculous importance to get that truecrypt folder out08:20
zirodayFinnish: tried running it through the terminal and spotting any error messages printed to it?08:20
kusanagi_yeah jabagawee but the file inside is encrypted.... that means u cant recover any part of anything08:20
skxxim_, depending on what you want to do http://www.liamdelahunty.com/tips/linux_search_and_replace_multiple_files.php08:20
jabagaweekusanagi_, can't we just assume that it's a giant 50GB blob of binary data08:21
jabagaweeand extract it?08:21
jabagaweei have my password and such, that's no issue08:21
jabagaweebut the zip around it is corrupt08:22
freetimehi , i have a problem when i do /etc/init.d/networck restart i get th no mount to host08:22
freetimehow to slove this08:22
kusanagi_jabagawee,  :S well, sorry i have no idea.... but id say i have lost it if it were mine08:23
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jabagaweekusanagi_, wait, what's the issue that's stopping recovery? if my zipfile were corrupted with a 50GB txt file in it, would that make a difference?08:23
ActionParsnipfreetime: so the error is: "No mount to host" ?08:24
kusanagi_yeah... u cant recover that file08:24
Yuttadhammohey there, I have a problem with Ubuntu Server 9.04... when I run netstat -lu  it gives: netstat: no support for `AF INET (udp)' on this system.  How do I add UDP support?08:24
ActionParsnipfreetime: is that right?08:25
freetimeo sory no route to host08:25
ActionParsnipo kthats cool08:25
kusanagi_jabagawee, i mean, i am no expert, but if something is missing u cant recover that file08:25
kusanagi_dont give up coz im no expert08:25
kusanagi_but...08:25
ActionParsnipfreetime: if you run: cat /etc/hostname; cat /etc/hosts08:25
ActionParsnipfreetime: is your hostname in the hosts file to resolve to 127.0.0.1  ?08:26
freetimeno08:26
ActionParsnipfreetime: does it say:   127.0.0.1     localhost08:27
ActionParsnipfreetime: and: 127.0.1.1     <your hostname>08:27
freetimeyes08:27
ActionParsnipfreetime: ok can you ping your router's ip?08:28
freetimeno i can't it ping08:28
XaifasHey i used "gconftool-2 –type bool –set /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop false" to turn my desktop off so i can use a screen saver as wallpaper but now i can't seem to manage to turn it back on, any ideas?08:28
ActionParsnipfreetime: if you set a suitable static IP address for the interface can you ping?08:28
jasonmchristosActionParsnip: is always in here giving solid support u would think he was bieng pais08:29
freetimemy ip adress i can ping but other no08:29
NerikoI've got an issue.08:29
NerikoIt needs fixin'08:29
ActionParsnipjasonmchristos: i wish ;)08:29
Xaifas"gconftool-2 -s /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop -t bool true && nautilus" seems to get it back but its only runing while the terminal is runing .. if i close terminal its not working again08:29
pshr_how to remove default applications that a particular file is opening with, previously i did .chm file to open with nautilus and now when ever i open .chm file it defaults to nautilus giving me a error ?08:30
ActionParsnipfreetime: if you set an ip address that is appropriate for your LAN as well as the router IP for the default gateway, can you ping then08:30
NerikoI had two different 'buntu distros; I deleted one, and now I need to resize the other to occupy the whole hard drive. How08:30
ActionParsnippshr_: right click the file _> select open with then select other. You can now choose the app and tell the system to remember the association08:31
NerikoHow the hell do I do this.08:31
BilliardNeriko: gparted can resize partitions08:31
NerikoHiya Billiard. This is nightone08:31
freetimeno i cant;t it ping08:32
BilliardNeriko: k08:32
ActionParsnipfreetime: is it wired or wireless?08:32
freetimeis wired08:32
NerikoUmm, I deleted the other partition, so can I still resize the partition while I'm on it?08:32
pshr_ActionParsnip, there is no option to check  remember the app, it just opens up with chmviewer thats all08:32
freetimecable i check08:32
ActionParsnip!defaulapp08:32
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about defaulapp08:32
ActionParsnipfreetime: try a different port on the router too08:33
ActionParsnipfreetime: also try a diferent cable as that may be bad08:33
pshr_ActionParsnip, got it :)08:33
ActionParsnippshr_: good lad08:33
BilliardNeriko: probably not, use a live cd or a gparted cd08:33
tasdawgGday all how can make a virtual serial port? send a 'file' to it and have another program pick it up and read it? Please in need of real help08:34
NerikoSo how do i resize it using a the live cd?08:34
pshr_Is there an Ovi suite (Nokia) for Linux, its turning out to be only reason why i am still having dual boots of XP and Ubuntu08:34
NerikoI did it once upon a time. No clue how I did it though.08:34
ActionParsnipNeriko: boot to live cd, run: gksudo gparted    and you can resize as you wish there08:34
tasdawgpshr_ obex GUI, sync as well08:35
ActionParsnipNeriko: make sure your backs are recent just in case08:35
Nerikohmm.08:35
Nerikook08:35
necromnicondoes anyone know of a good Usenet download program that supports video streaming?08:36
tasdawganyone know about pty and tty simulating ??08:36
BodsdaHi, I have installed a lamp server and unziped phpbb3 but when I browse to localhost/phpBB3/install/index.php it attempts to download the file instead of displaying it. What am I doing wrong?08:36
necromniconor a video player that supports rar files08:36
tasdawgBadsda: RealRipper08:36
BilliardBodsda: install/enable php08:36
Bodsdatasdawg:08:36
Bodsdatasdawg: huh?08:36
tasdawgsorry necromanicon08:36
Shurickhi all08:37
tasdawgBadsda: check your config file, you might have php files set as a comment(by default it will only display html, htmls)08:38
BodsdaBilliard: ah, I had php5-common but not php5 -- my bad, ty08:38
ActionParsnipnecromnicon: you can open the rar and double click the content, it will be opened to temp whil it is played08:38
necromniconActionParsnip: cool thanks08:38
tasdawgNoone knows about ttyS* or ptyt* ???? simulating a serial port?08:39
fufui downloaded an installation file, it opened in archive manager. How do I install it?08:39
tasdawgfufu: make it exec08:40
Shuricksmall question regarding acer notebook with wifi atheros 2425 chipset: is there any solution to fight with pure net performance and constant reconnects to AP?08:40
tasdawgfufu: chmod +x installfile && ./installfile08:40
fufuwhat does the installfile look lke>?08:41
infid_can i permanently mount a windows/samba public folder, so i don't have to enter a password to access it all the time?08:41
fufudoes it end with .sh?08:41
tasdawgfufu: the name of the file u downloaded08:41
tasdawga install file (bin) can be blah.bin, blah.sh, blah08:41
tasdawginfid_: yes you Network map it (make a hard link(your file manager should have the option)08:42
infid_tasdawg: by rightclicking on the folder and choosing 'make link'?08:44
fufushould i install programs on /opt folder?08:44
infid_fufu 3rd party stuff maybe08:45
fufui wannt to install komodo08:45
fufuedit08:45
NukeadorHi08:46
Blueyhello08:46
NukeadorI'm having problems when installing snort 2.8, it's unable to detect that eth0 is a valid interface. I get an error telling me that it isn't.08:46
infid_fufu are you sure i dont need to list it in /etc/fstab?08:48
fufuuh.. i already installed it in /opt folder08:49
fufuwill other users see my opt folder?08:49
fufui want them to use the program also08:50
infid_others have read perms by default on /opt08:50
infid_and execute08:50
fufuok good08:50
infid_what's a decent gui browser for ubuntu that's in the normal repos besides firefox08:52
Blueyinfid_: well firefox is a browser not a gui08:52
infid_it's a gui based browser, as opposted to a text browser08:52
Blueyinfid_: other browsers would be stuph like opera or konqueror08:52
infid_i'll try konq, i dont think opera would be in the public repos since it's proprietary08:53
Blueyinfid_: oh you were thinking lynx forgot that08:53
fufuwhat does this mean "Once the installer has finished, add Komodo to your   PATH :  Add Komodo/bin to your PATH directly:       export PATH=<installdir>/bin:$PATH "08:53
abhifxinfid_, try seamonkey or opera08:53
d9500infid_: midori and arora are both gui browsers. not sure about midori, but arora uses the qt toolkit, so it will also install some qt libraries when you install it (worth noting if you want to use gtk only apps)08:53
ActionParsnip!browser | infid_08:54
ubottuinfid_: Browsers available for Ubuntu: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), w3m (terminal-based), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), edbrowse (command-line), Opera (Qt, proprietary)08:54
Blueywell I can get opera from the repos08:54
fufudo i just type "export PATH=<installdir>/bin:$PATH" into the terminal?08:54
ActionParsnipinfid_: theres chromium too08:54
Blueytrue08:54
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infid_is that like linux's version of google chrome08:54
Blueyinfid_: yes08:55
ActionParsnipinfid_: its not bad, doesnt do quakelive though so its not for me08:55
Blueyi think the flock browser is also avail. for linux let me check08:56
tstebutHello I got a problem , look , if  I do simple "id" as oracle, get : uid=1001(oracle) gid=1003(oinstall) groupes=0(root),4(adm),1003(oinstall),1004(dba)08:56
samushkaim having trouble compiling an application, getting the error msg: No package 'qtwebkit-sharp' found08:56
tstebutBut if I do a "id oracle" as any, get : uid=1001(oracle) gid=1003(oinstall) groupes=1003(oinstall),4(adm),1004(dba)08:56
tstebutWhy do I get root as secondary group on case 1 ?08:56
Blueyyup - http://www.flock.com/08:56
ActionParsnipinfid_: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main08:56
tstebuthello08:56
tstebutHI ?08:57
tstebutSorry I've been disconnected08:57
ActionParsnipinfid_: you will need to work out the import of the GPG key08:57
Blueytstebut: sup?08:57
tstebutDoes anybody answered to my question ?08:57
tstebutIf  I do simple "id" as oracle, get : uid=1001(oracle) gid=1003(oinstall) groupes=0(root),4(adm),1003(oinstall),1004(dba)08:57
tstebutBut if I do a "id oracle" as any, get : uid=1001(oracle) gid=1003(oinstall) groupes=1003(oinstall),4(adm),1004(dba)08:57
tstebutWhy do I get root as secondary group on case 1 ?08:57
* Bluey is not the oracle guy - sorry....08:57
tstebutNo but its about user/group thing08:57
ActionParsnipinfid_: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5   the key08:58
tstebutThe question is08:58
tstebutWhy the .... do I get root as secondary group on case 1 ?08:58
fufuawesome i installed my first program and configured the path SWEETTT thnks mods08:58
nooneelsetstebut, you're talking about what ?08:59
Esnaquehi08:59
Esnaquecan you check your gnome clock and set show seconds08:59
Esnaque?08:59
Esnaquetime goes by so slowly09:00
Esnaqueor seconds are skkiped09:00
Esnaqueit seems a general problem09:00
tstebutCase 1 : I do simple "id" as oracle, get : uid=1001(oracle) gid=1003(oinstall) groupes=0(root),4(adm),1003(oinstall),1004(dba)09:01
Mannaney guys, i have just installed ubuntu desktop 9.04 (for the 10th time) and i was wondering if there is anyway i can save its current state (something like Windows Xp System Restore). i want to be able to 'rollback' to a previous restore point just in case i mess up anything because i am new to linux09:01
Esnaquecould anyone check the option "Show seconds" in gnome clock?? Something is going wrong.09:02
icerootif i create a file in /etc/cron.d/  will cron automaticly detect the new job? so that i just can put file with the string 5 * * * * * sh test.sh   in it?09:02
Esnaqueanda y q os den09:03
Jonathan_GlamHi, I keep getting the following error whilst trying to update: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 632D16BB0C713DA6W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 632D16BB0C713DA609:03
Jonathan_GlamHow can I fix this error. Happening when loading packages in Add/Remove and in other things09:04
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fufuwhats the command for deleting a non-empty directory?09:05
historm -rf09:06
histofufu: ^^^^^^^^^^09:06
tstebutCase 2 :  I do a "id oracle" as any, get : uid=1001(oracle) gid=1003(oinstall) groupes=1003(oinstall),4(adm),1004(dba)09:07
tstebutResult is not the same, what could explain this (it's all about user/group on Ubuntu)09:07
tstebutWell forget about oracle....it's an example....what I want is to remove group root from user oracle ....(!)...09:07
fufuthe rm -rf worked09:07
fufuthanks histo09:07
tstebutSorry I was disconnecter...again....09:07
tstebutDid someone answered to my question ?09:08
ActionParsnip!gpgerr09:08
ubottuGetting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <key> && gpg --export --armor <key> | sudo apt-key add - »09:08
ActionParsnipjonathan_glam: see above, the <key> is the last 8 characters in the output of the code you get in your error09:08
Jonathan_Glamok thanks ActionParsnip09:09
ActionParsnipJonathan_Glam: you can also get the big key file from the same page you got the ppa from but this achieves the same end09:09
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Jonathan_GlamActionParsnip worked. Wonderful, thanks!09:11
X2daYfDaBYcAI am having trouble with pulseaudio playback, how can i fix it09:12
krautmoin09:12
X2daYfDaBYcAwhen i try to play a matroska video file, there is no sound due to something wrong with pulseaudio09:13
ActionParsnipJonathan_Glam: np bro, same with all gpg errors, could script it ;)09:13
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ActionParsnipJonathan_Glam: instead of a code put $1, you can then send the script the code to get the key for :D09:13
d3xterhey guys09:13
l314i'm looking to install fluxbox09:17
tkmmaxi197309:17
rskl314: sudo apt-get install fluxbox in a terminal does09:18
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l314rsk, thank you i was trying get-apt09:18
l314lol09:18
WackyHyenahelo09:18
preecheri use ubuntu 9.04 if i wait to the release date for stable 9.10 can i just update to it or do it be a whole new install09:19
MenZaYou can just update it, preecher09:19
preecherthx09:20
MenZapreecher: The day it's released, a nice little button will show up in update-manager saying "New release available"09:20
fcuk112_what's so good about fluxbox?09:20
WackyHyenais it possible to see a list of recently added applications for ubuntu? like a list of brand new applications that were recently released?09:20
WackyHyenai want to see what new things I can use09:20
rskWackyHyena: using 9.04 ?09:21
WackyHyenano, 9.1009:21
rskthen use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic09:21
rskalso #ubuntu+1 for karmic discussion09:21
de_amore_imahi'm use ubuntu 8.04, can I update to 9.10,..09:23
l314rsk: and its sudo apt-get install xfce09:23
rskde_amore_imah: yes09:23
rskde_amore_imah: update to 8.10 then 9.04 then to 9.1009:23
de_amore_imahwOw,..  but,I'm affraid make my ubuntu demage,...09:23
rskde_amore_imah: then don't do it09:24
de_amore_imah??????09:24
rsk????09:24
alabdIs there any download manager for ubuntu that if internet has been disconnected we can continue it next time ?09:24
rskwhy should you be afraid09:24
de_amore_imahhah? mean?09:24
kranhello09:24
rskalabd: use wget with the -c option for resume09:24
rskkran hi09:25
l314is it sudo apt-get install xfce09:25
rskfor installing fluxbox?09:25
rskno that installs xfce09:25
ActionParsnipsudo apt-get install xfce409:26
de_amore_imahhow size for update it until to fix 9.10???09:26
l314yes thats what i want i want both thank you09:26
ActionParsniprsk: for fluxbox its: sudo apt-get install fluxbox09:26
rskde_amore_imah: hm a few gigabytes09:26
rskActionParsnip: what?09:26
de_amore_imah2GB?09:26
rskde_amore_imah: probably more09:26
de_amore_imahenough,..09:26
Jonathan_GlamHi, I was wondering. Is there a thing that is similar to Cairodock, but only pops up when I click something, say Alt-Tab. Kind of like in this thing at 0.55seconds in: http://www.break.com/index/it-guy-vs-dumb-employees.html:09:26
ActionParsniprsk: its the command to run to install fluxbox09:26
de_amore_imahhhahhh,...    :'(09:27
rsksure, but why would you say that to me09:27
Jonathan_Glamis there a way to get that to work?09:27
l314ActionParsnip: i was asking rsk09:27
ActionParsnipl314: sorry, just read what i put then ;)09:28
l314ActionParsnip: ya i was trying to do it but didn't realize that it was xfce 409:28
ActionParsnipl314: xfce4 will give you just the desktop and you will run your gnome apps, if you install xubuntu-desktop you will get some lighter alternatives to the gnome apps you run09:28
l314ActionParsnip: ya i was trying to do it but didn't realize that it was xfce409:28
WackyHyenaif I got a powerful gaming computer, would it be a good idea to put ubuntu on it or should I just keep windows on it?09:29
ActionParsnipWackyHyena: its not an issue of power, its what suits your needs09:29
l314ActionParsnip: thank you what is the command to start a gui program via terminal09:29
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ActionParsnipl314: just type its name, it will run09:30
WackyHyenawell, I just don't want ubuntu using only half of the resources of a powerful PC09:30
preecherdid i see that other peoples answer correct--i can install xbuntu desktop only an keep ubuntu progs and everthing else09:30
ActionParsnipl314: make sure you add a & at the end of the command09:30
vanillaskyI've been running 6.04 AMD64 desktop for several months without problem, and today, I've been having issues with lockups which I thought were HDD related (tested good), and now I have no sound09:30
l314ActionParsnip: sorry haven't used ubuntu since 5.10 when it first came out09:31
ActionParsnipWackyHyena: it will use as much as it needs to run, it will use the resources well09:31
rskWackyHyena: put ubuntu on it if you want ubuntu, put windows on it if you want windows. pretty easy question.09:31
MenZaWackyHyena: I just bought a machine with an i7 920, a GTX 285 and 6 gigs of RAM. I dualboot.09:31
vanillaskyI did try the liveCD, and I have working sound under the liveCD09:31
Flannelvanillasky: 6.06 isn't supported anymore.  You ought to upgrade to 8.04 (which is a direct upgrade)09:31
fcuk112_MenZa: wow that's a beast!09:31
rskno that's a computer.09:31
vanillaskysorry, fatfingered it, 9.0409:31
ActionParsnipfcuk112_: you'd like some of my sql servers then ;)09:31
fcuk112_hehe09:31
rska beast is unreleased hardware that you have under control09:32
rsk=)09:32
WackyHyenalike ubuntu doesn't use directx functionality of my video card, or is that not correct?09:32
rskanyone can buy commodity hardware :p09:32
* frogzoo mumbles something about ActionParsnip yoking thoroughbreds to ploughs...09:32
rskWackyHyena: no it dosen't. it can use openGL instead.09:33
Jonathan_GlamIs there any program that allows me to have a quick launch bar that only pops up when I click a set key, and it doesn't reduce my screen size like cairo dock?09:33
ActionParsnipWackyHyena: directx is a microsoft product so no09:33
frogzooActionParsnip: oh sql servers, nvm, for some reason was thinking ms sql09:33
WackyHyenaopengl works worse on my card than directx09:33
ActionParsnipwakejagr: but wine allows an abstraction for it so stuff that uses it may run09:33
rskWackyHyena: in windows, right?09:33
WackyHyenano, in ubuntu09:34
rskhow can you know09:34
rskthere's no dx for ubuntu09:34
papulwhen's karmic realising?09:34
rsk!karmic | papul09:34
ubottupapul: Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 29th, 2009 - Karmic is BETA and MAY break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+109:34
frogzoo!koala09:34
WackyHyenalike in nexuiz, it's really really slow with all settings down, and half life at full settings is still fast09:34
darkking_Hi all! Can anyone help me about "dm_mod" , "dm_mirror", "dm_snapshot" modules?09:34
WackyHyenanexuiz being on linux and half life 2 being on windows09:34
vanillaskyWhat would cause my sound to stop working for no reason like that?  There were no updates or changes to the software that I know of.09:34
ActionParsnipWackyHyena: installed and configured video drivers?09:34
WackyHyenayes09:35
rskWackyHyena: how does nexiuz run in windows?09:35
darkking_anyone?09:36
rskWackyHyena: it's kinda bad comparing peformance with 2 different games09:36
darkking_nobody?09:36
WackyHyenaopenarena runs good in windows and bad in linux with same exact settings09:36
Catalinhello all09:36
rskWackyHyena: have you confirmed you have drivers working well?09:36
WackyHyenahow do I know?09:37
tehbautanyone know of a decent screenshot app/utility for ubuntu (not firefox-only) that supports scrolling windows/regions?09:37
ActionParsnipWackyHyena: logged a bug to the devs?09:37
vanillaskyI was going to just fresh install, but I checked the site and noticed that Karmic is due in 9 days, so I figured I'd wait until then for a fresh install09:37
Catalincan someone assist me please with a small problem?09:37
rsk!ask | Catalin09:37
ubottuCatalin: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)09:37
sun`If i download ubuntu 9.10 beta.. will it be upgraded on 29th OCt?09:37
rsksun`: yes09:37
ActionParsniptehbaut: gnome has one under graphics or it may be under accessories09:37
ActionParsnipsun`: yes they use the same repos so you will upgrade seamlessly09:37
Catalinany ideea where i should find strong dc or dc++09:37
ActionParsnip!ot | Catalin09:38
Catalini want to install in Ubuntu 9.0409:38
ubottuCatalin: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!09:38
tehbautActionParsnip: out of the box? it doesn't support scrolling regions tho...09:38
zcat[1]birthday?09:38
ActionParsniptehbaut: ah, i see09:38
rskCatalin: there's no good direct connect client for ubuntu, but try microdc.09:38
ActionParsnip!dc09:38
ubottuDirect Connect clients: linuxdcpp, dcgui (GTK), Valknut, dc-qt (Qt), rccp (terminal-based) - See also !P2P09:38
tehbautActionParsnip: to be honest, I'm looking for a SnagIt replacement for linux09:39
rskaren't valknut and family like really bad?09:39
Catalinmicrodc is the same thing like strong ?09:39
rskno09:39
tehbautActionParsnip: only better, as SnagIt couldn't seem to scroll all regions successfully09:39
rskmicrodc = microdc strong = strong09:39
tehbautmost, but not all09:39
ActionParsniptehbaut: i use snaggit on my work laptop, ive not used or heard of scrolling regions09:40
vanillaskygot it working, now to figure out my freezing issue09:40
vanillaskythanks09:40
Catalinand with this program i can connect to my fav hubs?09:40
rsk2006-10-29: microdc is no longer in development. wops09:40
rskCatalin: yes09:40
tehbautActionParsnip: you must not have it set to scroll then?09:40
Catalin<rsk> 2006-10-29: microdc is no longer in development. wops09:40
Catalin:((09:40
rskhaven't used dc since 2005 maybe09:41
ActionParsniptehbaut: i just press ctrl + print screen and draw a square round what I need09:41
tehbautbasically, it's suppose to scroll any scrollable control of any window and piece multiple screenshots of that region back together09:41
WackyHyenahow would I know if I have my video driver installed properly?09:41
Catalinrsk, a few minutes in private it will upset you?09:41
tehbautkinda like page-dn, capture, page-dn, capture... build09:41
rskCatalin: yes09:41
linnyanyone had any problems with transmission freezing up the pc, i have a feeling it has something to do with HT on my p4 cpu , does ubuntu "offically" support HT09:42
rskWackyHyena: you should get good peformance in games09:42
CatalinYes means that i can do that?09:42
tehbautActionParsnip: it's an awesome feature when it works (and it does for a majority of scrollable regions)09:42
rskit means dont private message me, i don't know you09:42
ActionParsnipWackyHyena: if you can run 3D its installed, 3D stuff simply wont start without the right driver09:42
Catalinok rsk , sorry09:43
rskActionParsnip: you sure? ati/radeon driver can run 3 stuff09:43
rsk3d*09:43
Catalinso, can you name another client like dc for me?09:43
ActionParsniptehbaut: i've only used it for small regions, I can do the same without and mspaint to isolate what i need09:43
rsk10:38 < ActionParsnip> !dc09:43
rsk10:38 < ubottu> Direct Connect clients: linuxdcpp, dcgui (GTK), Valknut, dc-qt (Qt), rccp (terminal-based) - See also !P2P09:43
tehbauthmmm, I thought FireFox was supposed to be uncrashable on ubuntu? :P09:43
ActionParsniprsk: sure, the drivers just arent great09:43
rsktehbaut: not really09:43
ActionParsnip!dc | Catalin09:43
ubottuCatalin: Direct Connect clients: linuxdcpp, dcgui (GTK), Valknut, dc-qt (Qt), rccp (terminal-based) - See also !P2P09:43
WackyHyenaenabling blur in compiz slows everything way down, and sometimes messes up the screen so I have to restart Xorg09:44
tehbautActionParsnip: well saving time sure is a beautiful thing :)09:44
rskWackyHyena: disable compiz when running games09:44
ActionParsniptehbaut: i'm at work now09:44
tehbautyou should try it some time :D09:44
ActionParsniptehbaut: i have time09:44
tehbautheh09:44
Catalinthank you guys09:44
ActionParsnipWackyHyena: ati under linux is pretty poor due to ati not wanting to support ati but they are getting better09:45
ActionParsnipWackyHyena: nvidia cards are very supported09:45
WackyHyenarsk, i'm trying to make compiz make my titlebars slightly blurred like in vista, but that slows down the whole system, even when not running anything else, it's an intel 945GM card09:45
rskWackyHyena: you were saying before you had an ATI card09:46
rskWackyHyena: stop confusing me09:46
WackyHyenai did?09:46
* WackyHyena checks09:46
ActionParsnipWackyHyena: i thought you said you had a powerful gaming pc?09:46
ActionParsnipwith an onboard intel graphics card??09:47
rskWackyHyena: intel has a opensource driver that works fairly well09:47
rskWackyHyena: but the windows one is closed source with some magic linux dosen't have09:47
WackyHyenai'm going to buy one soon and I want to know if ubuntu would take advantage of it's power, like supporting all the cores and things like that09:48
rskbut it's getter better for every day basicly in linux09:48
rskWackyHyena: Yes it will if you buy nvidia GPU, cpu dosen't matter.09:48
MenZaWackyHyena: It certainly can.09:48
linnyActionParsnip: hes prolly repeating what they told him at pc world :S09:48
ActionParsniplinny: thats what i thought, i love pc world, its fun to baffle them09:48
linny:)09:48
frosty840Hi, I'm trying to follow this guide to grub error 22 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 . I'm booting from a live USB. I get to the second line of the instruction, to run "find /boot/grub/?stage1" and am getting error 15: File not found returned. The thing is, the stage1 file is there, in /boot/grub/. Any ideas?09:49
ActionParsniplinny: ask them about the cas latency of the ram in their systems, that always gets them scrathing their heads09:49
WackyHyenai hope I can delete my windows partition soon if wine gets good enough to run my games :D09:49
linnyActionParsnip: nah im not silly enough to buy things from pc world09:50
ActionParsnipWackyHyena: you could09:50
tehbautis there a trick to undo changes made to settings in a dialog box?09:50
ActionParsniplinny: me neither, i just use it as an entertainment centre09:50
linnyif i ever need to waste 70 pounds or so on some bloated anti-virus i know where to go09:50
WackyHyenaanti-viruses are useless, even in windows (to me)09:51
tehbautI guess I'm somewhat used to the [save] [apply] [cancel] workflow implemented by windows09:51
ActionParsnipWackyHyena: in windows they are advised due to poor user modelling09:51
WackyHyenaI wonder if there's any video editor that handles mesh distortions, seems like it's only an idea in linux09:53
ActionParsnipwonder away, you'll never know unless you ask or research09:54
rskWackyHyena: http://www.blender.org/features-gallery/features/09:55
tehbautis there a better weather widget for gnome panels than the one included by default?09:55
rsktehbaut: what do you mean by better?09:55
WackyHyenablender is for 3d animation though09:55
tehbautwell, I was hoping for something more widgety when you click to get the forcast an such09:56
tehbautrather than a tabbed window with plain text09:56
rskuse awn or such09:56
tehbautsomething perhaps that pops up when you click, and allows you to interact with it, but clicking away makes it vanish09:57
ActionParsniptehbaut: there may be some desklet that gives it09:57
lyhana8hi, I try to commit a personnal projet to a svn repository but I got this error : containing working copy admin area is missing09:57
lyhana8the folder doesn't exist in the repository so I couldn't check him out09:58
tehbautis there a good resource for desklets on the web?09:58
tehbautor just the desklets site itself09:58
accidi just installed ubunto on a vm, what are some cool plugins i can get ?10:00
kbmaniachave migrated to ubuntu but still get the xubuntu 'loading' screen, how to change ?10:00
rskaccid: please give a cool example, so i know what you want10:00
ActionParsniptehbaut: http://www.gdesklets.de/10:01
accidrsk - interface wise10:01
ActionParsnip!bootsplash10:01
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash10:01
ActionParsnip!splash10:01
ubottuTo change the Gnome splash screen, use gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.10:01
rskaccid: what do you think is cool in a interface?10:01
accidhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Fbk52Mk1w10:01
kbmaniacmany thanks10:01
accidthat is10:01
accidi like the widgets10:02
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rskaccid: do install the prgoram in the youtube vid then?10:02
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rskaccid: there's countless plugins for compiz10:02
tehbautthanks ActionParsnip, this AWN app is interesting too10:02
ActionParsniptehbaut: sounds like you found something then :)10:03
tehbautwonder if it can be made to act similar to the win7 superbar, which I think behaves pretty decently10:03
ActionParsnipaccid: you will need to install compizconfig-settings-manager10:04
acciddoing so now accid10:04
Solar_FlareHi ^^10:04
accidActionParsnip10:04
Solar_Flarecan i somehow save my changes to the ubuntu live-cd?10:04
ActionParsnipaccid: i'm not sure how vmware gives any sort of 3D acceleration which compiz needs10:04
rskSolar_Flare: no10:05
accidrsk10:05
rskaccid10:05
ActionParsnipSolar_Flare: you can put the live cd home on a usb to store settings10:05
accidi may just install ubuntu on its own partition10:06
rskand how does that relate to me?10:06
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accidyes rsk ?10:06
ruby_on_tailshello10:06
||David||bleh10:06
Solar_FlareActionParsnip Ive got it on a usb drive, how do I set it to store changes there?10:06
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ActionParsnipSolar_Flare: if the livecd is on the usb as well then any chnages will be automatically stored10:07
ActionParsnipSolar_Flare: you can even update the packages10:07
Solar_Flarewow...10:07
ruby_on_tailshello10:07
Solar_Flareubuntu astonishes me every day more and more...10:07
Solar_Flare ^^10:07
Solar_Flarethanks.10:07
Solar_Flarecu10:07
ActionParsnipSolar_Flare: np10:07
FloodBot1Solar_Flare: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.10:07
Jonathan_GlamIs there a simple .deb installation for Gnome Do Docky?10:08
|DarkStar|holy...this place is almost as big as dalnet or somewhere old10:08
Jonathan_GlamBecause I installed Gnome do... but i can't seem to get the dock working10:08
accidrsk10:08
rskaccid10:08
accid=]10:08
ruby_on_tailsis it possible to make a bash script which can clean my desktop every Sunday ?10:08
accidi have a few silly questions10:08
ActionParsnipruby_on_tails: sure, the desktop is just a folder ~/Desktop10:09
accidcan one OS remote desktop into another OS ?10:09
ActionParsnipruby_on_tails: so you can have a script to empty that folder10:09
rskJonathan_Glam: http://do.davebsd.com/download.shtml and click on ubuntu?10:09
voxaccid: sure10:09
rskaccid: yes10:09
ActionParsnipaccid: sure can10:09
ruby_on_tailsno no not empty ActionParsnip :P10:09
ActionParsnipruby_on_tails: whatever you want, it will be done in that folder10:09
accidRSK, which program do i need to remote from xp to ubuntu ?10:09
rskaccid: none10:10
d9500accid: you mean vnc or rdp (to windows)? both can be done from ubuntu, but unless the machines are on the same lan, you probably need a vpn tunnel between them.10:10
Jonathan_Glamrsk, how do I install it from the ppa?  https://launchpad.net/~do-core/+archive/ppa10:10
accidthere is one here called krdc10:10
rskJonathan_Glam: read the instructions10:10
ActionParsnipruby_on_tails: write the script to do whatever then have it running every sunday10:10
ruby_on_tailsfor example if I am working on 4 projects which have their folders in var/www/ can a script put the lazy files downloaded/copied on the desktop in the respective folders in var/www each Sunday10:10
ruby_on_tailsaah k10:10
FloodBot1ruby_on_tails: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.10:10
ActionParsnipaccid: or if you want basic control you can use ssh and have a command line interface which is much faster10:10
slawek#lubin10:10
ruby_on_tailswho coded FloodBot1 ?10:11
ActionParsnipruby_on_tails: i'd bet jussi10:11
MenZaruby_on_tails: Ask in #ubuntu-bots for these types of questions.10:11
ruby_on_tailsActionParsnip: can this thing be done on windows os ?10:11
ruby_on_tailsDOS scripts maybe ?10:11
ActionParsnipruby_on_tails: not sure, ask in ##windows10:11
ruby_on_tailshmm.. ok10:12
zirodayruby_on_tails: floodbot was created by LjL` and I'm guessing in perl, but could very well be wrong10:12
zirodayruby_on_tails: and IIRC its not open source, but #ubuntu-bots is the best place to ask10:13
tehbautfor some reason, I'm now unable to select certain apps to install from the Jaunty Add/Remove Apps listing10:13
ruby_on_tailsziroday: what's IIRC ?10:13
zirodayruby_on_tails: if I recall corrrectly :)10:13
zirodaytehbaut: like?10:14
ruby_on_tailsoh k10:14
tehbautziroday: RAR, Avant Window Navigator10:14
ruby_on_tailsI just want to tell the coder to improve the logic, the bot shouts 3 out of 5 times on me when I am here10:14
MenZaruby_on_tails: Again, #ubuntu-bots :)10:14
tehbautziroday: looks like it's actually only an issue when I've done a search10:14
ruby_on_tails1 sec10:15
zirodaytehbaut: hmm, try doing 'sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator' in a terminal10:15
MenZaalternative, ruby_on_tails - https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots10:15
ruby_on_tailsdone10:15
tehbautziroday: I take that back, still not able to select RAR10:15
ruby_on_tailstold at #ubuntu-bots10:15
david__help, i uninstalled an app and it still is in the menu button under office..10:15
tehbautis that because I installed 7zip?10:15
d9500david: you just want to get rid of the entry in the menu?10:16
|DarkStar|david_ ...right click on the menu and go to "Edit Menu"10:16
ActionParsnipd9500: then run alacarte and remove it10:16
d9500DarkStar beat me to it.10:17
|DarkStar|yay10:17
|DarkStar|I'm somewhat useful10:17
* david__ runs alacarte10:17
david__yay, it worked, thanks alot ActionParsnip =D10:17
d9500Actually, |DarkStar| your method was quicker than mine. I was going to suggest System-->Prefes-->Main Menu. So thx for the tip.10:17
ActionParsnipdavid__: np man10:18
|DarkStar|d9500, np10:18
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ActionParsnipdavid__: you can also create entrys there too (for example for your home made scripts010:18
cowgardenhi, how to see the remaining space on a CD/DVD in the burning utility?10:18
|DarkStar|what's alacarte, btw?10:18
Jonathan_Glamrsk, got in updated thanks. How would I install compositing? I tried before a while back, but completely failed. Is there a guide you could link me to?10:18
ActionParsnip!info alacarte | |DarkStar|10:19
Trancehi all10:19
ubottu|DarkStar|: alacarte (source: alacarte): easy GNOME menu editing tool. In component main, is optional. Version 0.11.10-0ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 55 kB, installed size 1240 kB10:19
|DarkStar|cool ty10:19
TranceI have a problem with sound in beta10:19
rskJonathan_Glam: no idea10:19
ActionParsnip!9.10 | Trance10:19
ubottuTrance: Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 29th, 2009 - Karmic is BETA and MAY break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+110:19
|DarkStar|my main laptop crapped out so I'm on my netbook now :(10:20
TranceActionParsnip: ok thanks10:20
|DarkStar|works good, now that I'm using it hehe10:20
Jonathan_Glamrsk, k :(10:20
cowgardennobody burning CDs with nautilus?10:20
fcuk112_cowgarden: i use k3b.10:20
cowgardenfcuk112_, if that one shows me what I need.. I'll give it a try10:20
engrshahryar_hello to all10:20
engrshahryar_anyone worked with LBS?10:21
engrshahryar_i need a small help10:21
|DarkStar|cowgarden, I used to use k3b but it wasn't working with my dvd-rw...so I bought nero (ducks for backlash)10:21
ActionParsnipjonathan_glam: you need to install video drivers first, then you can switch on compiz and have compositing10:21
engrshahryar_location based services? anyone used it in thier app? plz help10:21
cowgarden|DarkStar|, there is a linux nero?10:21
|DarkStar|cowgarden, yessir10:21
|DarkStar|costs money, though10:21
Jonathan_Glamactionparsnip: last time I tried to install Compiz it stuffed up and I had to re-install/repair Ubuntu via LiveCD10:22
|DarkStar|I'd use it as a last resort, though, like I had to...k3b didn't work for me10:22
Jonathan_Glamactionparsnip: i'm looking at: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/03/31/enable-metacity-compositing-in-gnome-222/10:22
cowgarden|DarkStar|, supporting linux makes them deserve some money :)10:22
rskJonathan_Glam: it should be installed already if you are using 9.04, that link is old.10:22
|DarkStar|cowgarden, I agree...10:22
Jonathan_Glamrsk, I am yes10:22
Jonathan_Glamrsk, but I'm still getting that on Gnome Do10:23
cowgardenfcuk112_, woa, loads of kde libs :)10:23
ActionParsnipjonathan_glam; tombuntu is usually pretty good10:23
|DarkStar|cowgarden, I was pretty happy with it10:23
zaoul1gimmie muh monie10:23
fcuk112_cowgarden: yes, its a KDE app.10:23
ActionParsnip!burning | cowgarden10:23
ubottucowgarden: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, brasero, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto10:23
ActionParsnipnero for linux seems awfully silly when there are all those apps you can use for free10:23
|DarkStar|kinda like how some game companies like 2Dboy deserve money for supporting linux10:23
cowgardenActionParsnip, thanks, now I have k3b :)10:23
david__um.. i want to learn lots about linux etc any tips on how to do that fast?10:24
rskdavid__: do things with it10:24
|DarkStar|ActionParsnip, what if none work but a commercial app does?10:24
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zirodaydavid__: and use the wiki10:24
fcuk112_david__: read some books.10:24
cowgardendavid__, maybe just try to tweak your system?10:24
ActionParsnip|DarkStar|: then you have some crazy issue10:24
zaoul1david__: if you want to learn 'Linux' dont use ubuntu10:24
david__rsk: what "things" do i do?10:24
rskdavid__: things you want, that gives best results10:24
david__zaoul1: i was thinking about debian but i dont know if the difference is that huge..10:24
ActionParsnip|DarkStar|: i'd look at settings and try a million different combinations before paying for an app10:25
zaoul1david__: you are right, they both use apt-get so it would be the same10:25
|DarkStar|ActionParsnip, which a commercial program solves...so...? Don't get me wrong, I'd like to use K3b but at the time it didn't detect the drive10:25
Jonathan_Glamrsk, wonderful it worked that link10:25
Jonathan_Glamactionparsnip worked, thanks man!10:25
ActionParsnipjonathan_glam: sweet nice one10:25
|DarkStar|ActionParsnip, not everyone has the time, or the knowledge to do that. Some, like myself, are just impatient and want stuff to work.10:25
david__zaoul1:  could use freebsd then...10:25
zaoul1david__: you said you wanted to learn Linux ..10:26
cowgardenfcuk112_, how do I select multiple files in K3b?10:26
ActionParsnip|DarkStar|: then your wallet will take a hit10:26
alan__lol i need help desperately, amsn disappeared from systray, and its not in system processes, but its still on, how do i access it?10:26
david__zaoul1: as long as i learn something im happy, any OS recomendations for learning?10:26
cowgardenfcuk112_, folders i ment, they keep opening on single klick10:26
zaoul1david__: Gentoo10:26
rskdavid__: LFS10:26
zaoul1rsk: oh dont make the guy commit suicide10:27
alan__david__: crunchbang!10:27
|DarkStar|ActionParsnip, a small hit, true. Not anything in the order of paying for a MS Windows license, though. I don't see the problem.10:27
ActionParsnipdavid__: +1 for gentoo10:27
rsk-1 for gentoo10:27
zaoul1we prob need to stop now the topic nazis  will show up soon10:27
alan__Crunchbang is pretty easy to use, and its faster than ubuntu10:27
fcuk112_cowgarden: are you trying to burn a dvd?10:27
cowgardenfcuk112_, yes10:27
ActionParsnip|DarkStar|: true true, i'd rather try and get the open solutions going but if the paid for one gets you sorted then its no bad thing10:28
zaoul1alan__: we want to learn Linux not xyz distribution10:28
|DarkStar|There's room for commercial apps in linux10:28
fcuk112_cowgarden: just select new data dvd project and drag files into the window.10:28
david__so.. what do i do gentoo or lfs?10:28
indusis ubuntu 9.10rc out10:28
rskindus: no10:28
zaoul1david__: I would setup ubuntu and then install virtualbox and give a whirl at whatever you feel like10:28
indusrsk: delayed?10:28
cowgardenfcuk112_, wanted to use the build in browser, but thats a simple workarround :) thx...10:28
alan__Does anyone know how to open a list of all running applications?10:28
rskindus: afaik it won't be a RC.10:28
ActionParsnip|DarkStar|: definately, there already is too: penumbra, cedega and crossoveroffice are also commercial10:28
zaoul1david__: in the virtual env10:28
ActionParsnipalan__: ps -ef | less10:28
rskdavid__: if you want to learn linux get LFS, gentoo is more for having a usable system and good practices10:29
|DarkStar|ActionParsnip, I used that method for getting DVDs to play...I won't spend a single dime to play DVDs I already own and should be able to play10:29
ActionParsnip|DarkStar|: the demo of penumbra is great :D10:29
zaoul1system -- administration -- system monitor10:29
|DarkStar|ActionParsnip, yeah it is...actually I played Doom 3 in Linux...good game10:29
Tm_T|DarkStar|: ActionParsnip: ...10:29
|DarkStar|ActionParsnip, and 2D Boy's World of Goo...not a bad game either10:29
zaoul1id say LFS is outdated, gentoo you can do the same thing without having to solve all the deps yourself, drive yourself crazy10:30
djtigerwolfhow do i get amarok to play mp3 files i already added restricted files10:30
|DarkStar|there are some great commercial linux games out there10:30
arandI have a wireless network which only leases for ~300 seconds, meaning that network manager drops the connection constantly, are there any settings in NM to mitigate this?10:30
zaoul1gentoo you do everything manually anywya.. partition, bootloader, kernel10:30
ActionParsnip|DarkStar|: totally, some are magnificent10:30
Tm_Tzaoul1: ActionParsnip |DarkStar| please, topic10:31
rskzaoul1: he wants to learn linux, LFS isn't outdated for that.10:31
WackyHyenaare there any audio editors available that use something like keyframes?10:31
ActionParsniparand: use static IP10:31
ActionParsniparand: change your dhcp lease time to something realistic10:31
zaoul1and there they are10:31
zaoul1im outie10:31
acts_as_rubyisthello all, anyone here used Openmeetings ever?10:31
ActionParsnipTm_T: gotcha10:31
david__then that settles it, il run gentoo first, then lfs later(lfs sounds harder so il learn stuff in gentoo first)10:31
ActionParsnipdavid__: gentoo will teach you much10:32
|DarkStar|david__, I'd run slackware first if I were you710:32
|DarkStar|-710:32
ActionParsnipdavid__: grab the handbook and the minimal CD and away you go10:32
acts_as_rubyistmy first linux install was gentoo from stage 1 tarballs10:32
acts_as_rubyistcan you even do that anymore?10:32
* david__ starts getting confused..10:33
david__slackware, gentoo, lfs...10:33
ActionParsnipacts_as_rubyist: you can but its not supported, stage3 is more accepted10:33
acts_as_rubyisttotally, that was a long time ago10:34
jussi01!ot10:34
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!10:34
Tm_Tdavid__: acts_as_rubyist and others, if your conversation isn't Ubuntu support related, please use our lovely #ubuntu-offtopic channel, thanks (:10:34
acts_as_rubyistok. So has anyone gotten Openmeetings to run under ubunutu?10:35
WackyHyenawhat's openmeetings10:35
hsarci_whenever i try to open a folder from "places" i get a error saying "No application is registered as handling this file"? any ideas???10:35
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acts_as_rubyistsorry, back now10:35
zirodayhsarci_: what version of ubuntu?10:35
horsieanyone know how accurate the release schedule for 9.10 is?10:36
hsarci_ziroday, karmic...i asked in +1 but no one responded10:36
acts_as_rubyistlooking for some install help for this Openmeetings RC510:36
ActionParsnip!9.10 | horsie10:36
ubottuhorsie: Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 29th, 2009 - Karmic is BETA and MAY break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+110:36
acts_as_rubyistit's supported for debian variants, but I'm having a heck of a time putting openmeetings on my ubuntu box10:36
WackyHyenadoes anyone use JACK in ubuntu? i can' seem to get ardour and other jack based applications to run10:36
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horsieta - is the date close to garunteed or a target? or is it released at that stage regardless10:37
zirodayhsarci_: one sec10:37
tehbautAWN seems a tad buggy10:37
hsarci_ziroday, thanks10:37
ActionParsniphorsie: ask in #ubuntu+1   karmic isnt discussed here10:38
horsiek - thanks10:38
arandI have a wireless network which only leases for ~300 seconds, meaning that network manager drops the connection constantly (I presume this is the reason). Currently I'm forced to use ifupdown (+wpa_client) and "watch -n 200 sudo dhclient wlan0" To access the network, which works just as it should. Any way to get this working in NM?10:38
ActionParsniparand: why the short lease?10:39
arandActionParsnip: Not my network, have no idea, it's normally configured using a client application (SecureW2) on windows...10:40
|DarkStar|arand, are you using a wireless router connected to your cable? adsl? and if so, can you connect to it directly and access it's web config page?10:40
peehi, currently I'm reading in a magazine, that when I create a virtual-hosts file in /etc/apache2/sites-available, so I should link from /etc/apache2/sites-enabled. but how looks »the link« like in practise? I have the skript for the virtual-host file, but I don't know nothing about the »linking«. :-)10:40
arandClarification: I have no possibility configure the network/DHCP, this is a wireless access point at a university.10:41
fcuk112_pee: man ln10:41
zirodayhsarci_:     * Right click a folder, go to Properties -> Open With, and change it back to Nautilus. There's a bug where if a folder is opened in an application, it automatically associates folders with that application on your system.10:41
venilHi everyone, i created usb drive with ubuntu on it with persistence enabled, so i can save files - however if i make changes to /etc/resolv.conf(and possibly other system files) - its reset on reboot, is there a way to fix this so i can persistently make changes to it.10:42
peefcuk112_: thx.10:42
hsarci_ziroday, right click within nautilus?? becasue i cant rightclick from the "places" menu10:42
arand|DarkStar|: I can't configure it see^10:43
FiReSTaRThsarci_: so open one of the "places" and that'll open nautilus.. then right click on any folder and open the properties10:43
zirodayhsarci_: any folder will do10:43
hsarci_*sigh* im in nautilus, ive right clicked on a folder...and theres no place to change what application it opens with10:44
zirodayhsarci_: did you go to properties?10:44
hsarci_ziroday, nvm, its not in properties10:44
venilanyone?10:45
zirodayhsarci_: woops its been moved since that was pasted10:45
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hsarci_ziroday, thanks a lot...works now :)10:45
ActionParsniparand: use a static ip10:45
erUSULhsarci_: it is in Properties>Open with tab10:45
ActionParsnipvenil: network manager will change that file10:46
hsarci_erUSUL, no its not...not on karmic at least...10:46
FiReSTaRThsarci_: or jaunty10:46
erUSULhsarci_: if you are in karmic you are asking in the wrong channel10:46
FiReSTaRThsarci_: i checked in jaunty, same deal10:46
ActionParsnipvenil: so you can use staic IP and disable network manager10:46
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erUSULFiReSTaRT: i am in karmic and the tab is there10:46
erUSUL!karmic | hsarci_10:46
ubottuhsarci_: Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 29th, 2009 - Karmic is BETA and MAY break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+110:46
FiReSTaRTerUSUL:  i'm curious about this for jaunty10:46
ActionParsnipvenil: or you can add the dns servers in network manager somewhere maybe10:46
erUSULFiReSTaRT: jaunty* sorry10:46
hsarci_erUSUL, you are god of ubuntu, thanks for clarifying this as i had no idea what im doing and i would be lost without you10:46
venilActionParsnip: where exactly?10:46
nearsthi ppl10:47
ActionParsnipvenil: i dont use the app, it has no benefit to me so i remove it10:47
FiReSTaRTerUSUL: i'm in jaunty but i don't have an open with tab for a folder10:47
venilActionParsnip: so how do i configure to use static ip?10:47
nearstlook /etc/network/interface10:47
arandActionParsnip: hmm, that's an idea... *testing10:47
FiReSTaRTerUSUL: basic emblems permissions notes share10:48
erUSULFiReSTaRT: folder? the folder pen with the file manager (nautilus). it makes no sense imho to change that to anything else10:48
venilnearst: it will be reset after reboot, no persistance for this file10:48
erUSULFiReSTaRT: what would you change that to ? anuther filemanager?10:48
ActionParsnipvenil: i set it in /etc/network/interfaces as nearst uggested. here is a guide: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/10:48
FiReSTaRTerUSUL: exactly :)10:48
ActionParsnipvenil: you can then disable the thing from loading at startup using bum10:48
* erUSUL :S10:48
venilActionParsnip: wont it be reset, same as  resolv.conf ?10:49
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nearstvenil: ifconfig inet bla bla will lost when reboot... not in config10:49
hoitis there a users sidebar or something in this xchat10:49
i3azabdoes anyone knows how to install "build-essential" form the .tar.gz file ?10:49
nearstvenil: yeah... keep in resolv.conf for dnsname10:49
FiReSTaRTerUSUL: nautilus is adequate, but i'd like to check out a few other options before i wipe my machine and install jaunty+1 :P10:49
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ActionParsnipvenil: no, it supercedes all network settings too, if you disable network manager, you can add any name servers you wish in resolv.conf and they will not get removed10:50
erUSULFiReSTaRT: so you want to pen everything with nautilus except for one folder (or a few) that you want to open with dolphin? konqueror? roxfiler? ... people are crazy10:50
meaniefaceFiReSTaRT: why not just use thunar?10:50
FiReSTaRTmeanieface: i might10:50
venilActionParsnip:  ah, i see, ok10:50
nearstbetter open a folder in shell :) .. thats true linux10:50
ActionParsnipvenil: personally, I think the network manager overwriting the resolv.cof file is rude10:50
meaniefaceFiReSTaRT: lightweight and acts just as well as nautilus10:50
venilActionParsnip: can i disable it from startup, but keep it if i need to run in later?10:51
FiReSTaRTerUSUL: i've used "open with" to change the default app across the board since preferred applications doesn't work every time10:51
nearstany idea about good virtualization ?10:52
hsarci_the settings in gconf for power manager that refer to time....what unit of measurement do they use???? for example it says "spindown time ac: 600" that means 600 whats?10:52
FiReSTaRTmeanieface: ideally i'd like a cross b/w nautilus and win commander.. i'll check thunar out and whatever else is out there.. currently away from home so i don't have too much time to screw around with the system10:52
ActionParsnipvenil: sure: sudo apt-get install bum; gksudo bum    then disable and stop network manager10:52
FiReSTaRTnearst: virtual box (giyf)10:52
meaniefaceFiReSTaRT: sounds good10:53
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peeI have ln -s /etc/apache2/sites-available/netzor.local.conf in my 000-default file at /etc/apache2/sites-enabled before </VirtualHost>. at the apache2-restart I get the message: Syntax error on line 41 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default:10:53
peeInvalid command 'ln', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration10:53
nearstFiReSTaRT: im know that... im talking about kvm10:53
FiReSTaRTspeaking of which i gotta go translate a job proposal, so i'm outta here.. have a good one guys :)10:53
nearstpee: u got defines in vhost.conf10:54
peenearst: I should define the link there, yeah?10:54
nearstno... in apache.conf / httpd.conf10:55
nearstedit that file pee10:55
tehbautis there some way to make it so that when I'm dragging selections inside of a textbox, they don't change if I drag above or below the box, only left/right of the initial click10:56
peenearst: in which folder are they? I was searching with sudo find / -name for them and I couldn't find anything.10:56
erUSULpee: ln is in coreutils and should be installed?10:56
tehbautthat is reaaaally annoying (that it changes the selection when I accidentally drag above/below the textbox)10:56
napster_123i've installed svn through apt-get ... where can i find the conf files ?10:57
peeerUSUL: puh.. I was searching in synaptic for any with »ln«, without success.10:57
nearstfind / -name apt.conf10:58
erUSULpee: given that coreutils have cp mv and a lot of other core utils of any sane unix system i'm amazed that you do not have that installed10:58
nathan7Hi, I have a realtek that is working *great* when I unload 8139cp and reload 8139too - but it loads 8139cp in initramfs. How do I stop that?10:59
nearstnathan crate initramfs again or unload that modules11:00
nathan7Hmm.11:00
|DarkStar|dangit11:00
nathan7I have it blacklisted.11:00
nathan7And I ran update-initramfs -u11:00
|DarkStar|any programmer canucks in here? i.e. canadians?11:00
peeerUSUL: mv and cp are working well. thats my httpd.conf (from the apache2-folder - dunno why sudo find / -name wasn't finding it): http://bin.cakephp.org/view/74496366611:00
nathan7Caek.11:00
nearstpee: better with su - command11:01
* nathan7 generates fresh initramfs11:01
hoitxchat is shit11:01
peebut now apache2 is alerting that: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/197370008511:01
erUSULnathan7: /etc/initramfs-tools/modules ??11:01
erUSUL!blacklist | nathan711:02
ubottunathan7: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »11:02
nearsterUSUL: your bot work like a charm11:02
alabde.g is there any strategy/RPG game without wrath and war ?11:03
erUSULnearst: is not mine :) i only know a few factoids ;)11:03
nathan7erUSUL: Oh, thanks11:03
nearsterUSUL: better for help people out there..11:03
ActionParsnipalabd: pokemon siler / gold / pearl / whatever11:03
nearstalabd: solitair also RPG game in your mind11:04
nathan7erUSUL: Nvm, it worked11:04
erUSUL!yay | nathan711:04
ubottunathan7: Glad you made it! :-)11:04
nathan7Recreating the initramfs that is11:04
r3zahey guys , i have a problem , when i was to create iso from my package with aptoncd its close program automatically right on 87% , how can i fix this ?11:04
nearst!yay | erUSUL11:05
ubottuerUSUL: Glad you made it! :-)11:05
nathan7!yay > /dev/null11:05
r3zahey guys , i have a problem , when i was to create iso from my package with aptoncd its close program automatically right on 87% , how can i fix this ?11:06
nathan7Hmm11:06
nathan7r3za: Try running it from the terminal11:07
nathan7r3za: Maybe you can see the error message11:07
r3zanathan : HOW can i do that ?11:08
karl0shelou moto11:08
nic1how to install and run xdeskop on ubuntu?11:08
rsknic1: install it, then runt it.11:09
r3zanathan7:  ok , got it11:09
rskrun*11:09
karl0sgood luck11:09
meaniefacelmao11:09
nic1rsk, what are the commands?11:09
JNSamuel..11:09
rsknic1: it dosen't say in the manual?11:09
karl0srtfm11:09
nathan7nic1: xdeskop?11:09
nathan7I think you mean desktop?11:09
alabdActionParsnip: siler is another game ?11:09
nic1nathan7, yes11:10
nathan7What specific one?11:10
nic1xfce11:10
karl0sapt-get install xdeskop11:11
nathan7http://www.x-desktop.org/ that?11:11
nathan7nic1: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop11:11
nic1karl0s, with xdesktop, will i be able to run xfce command?11:11
alabdActionParsnip: nearst which of them you introduced are non-online ?11:11
nathan7nic1: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop11:11
karl0smaybe11:11
meaniefacexfce isn't a command11:12
karl0ssudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop11:12
tehbautwow, AWN is really quite buggy11:12
nathan7tehbaut: Indeed.11:13
ArkoldThosif you don't want to fill your menu wit many things, just install xfdesktop411:13
alabde.g is there any strategy/RPG game without wrath and war and relate to brain ?11:13
tehbautnathan7: any better apps out there that are similar?11:13
alabde.g is there any strategy/RPG game without wrath and war and relate to brain ? an non-online11:13
nic1i ran sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop11:13
nic1now how can i start x desktop instead of gnome?11:14
meaniefacenic1: are you using gdm?11:14
rsklougout of gnome, pick xfce instead11:14
rskand login11:14
nic1meanieface, yes11:14
meaniefacenic1: just do what rsk said logout and pick xfce from the dropdown11:14
nic1ok11:15
ActionParsnipalabd: silver i meant11:15
alabde.g is there any strategy/RPG game without wrath and war and relate to brain ? an non-online ? ActionParsnip11:15
ActionParsnipalabd: its a pokemon game so no one dies, they just faint11:16
tehbautwell, the weather app for AWN really is spot-on11:16
tehbautjust what I was looking for11:16
tehbautis it available for use with the standard gnome panels or other docks though?11:16
alabdActionParsnip: except that pokemon11:17
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frosty840Hi, I'm booting off a usb stick because mygrub has gone unexpectedly screwy. I'd like to reinstall ubuntu onto the partition it's currently installed on. How do I find out what partition my ubuntu is installed on? I've got sda1-4 here in the installer, and the information doesn't make sense, and I don't trust it. :/11:17
meaniefacefrosty840: type in df11:18
ActionParsnipalabd: sailor moon11:18
nic1anyone here knows awesome window manager?11:19
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alabdActionParsnip:  is it thinking game?11:19
erUSULfrosty840: mount thepartitions of the hards disk and see what is inside ?11:19
ActionParsnipalabd: its alla bout farming11:19
frosty840The partitions are named, but I don't know how to connect them to these "sda" entries11:20
hsarci_why is it that when i specificy a port when trying to telnet to a specific address it always defaults to address:port/telnet instead of address:port???11:20
ActionParsniphsarci_: i think you need to use: telnet server -p portnumb11:22
ActionParsniphsarci_: or simply: telnet server port11:23
ActionParsniphsarci_: no need for the colon11:23
Seether1sdoes ubuntu have good support for wireless routers?11:23
Seether1susb recievers etc?11:24
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hsarciActionParsnip, thanks11:24
ActionParsnipSeether1s: depends on the chip inside the device11:26
ActionParsnipSeether1s: the router is moot as it will obey ISO standards11:27
Seether1sd link 63511:27
ActionParsnipSeether1s: means nothing11:27
ActionParsnipSeether1s: can you give the output of: lsusb11:27
ActionParsnipSeether1s: one line will identify the device11:27
ActionParsnipSeether1s: dlink 635 is the router as well whci doesnt interest us, as soon as you get your wireless usb workig it will work with ANY router11:29
user_#linux-novatos11:30
mud_bat1I have a primary and extended partition /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2.  The extended partition contains 5 logical drives /dev/sda5 through /dev/sda9.  Windows XP is installed on /dev/sda1 and Vista is on /dev/sda5.  I'm having trouble with the grub entries booting into the two windows.  I assume that winxp would be on (hd0,0) and vista would be on (hd0,4) or just counting the partitions it would be the 3rd partition so I tried (hd0,2).  What 11:30
mud_bat1perhaps I'm trying to reinvent the wheel and all I need to do is type grub> setup?11:31
tehbautis there a shortcut to the process monitor?11:32
ActionParsniptehbaut: could make a shortcut to it on your desktop11:33
ActionParsniptehbaut: some people assign ctrl+alt+del to it like in windows11:33
tehbautI meant a keyboard shortcut, like ctrl+shift+escape11:33
ActionParsnip!grub | mud_bat111:33
ubottumud_bat1: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto11:33
user_neptuno irc-hispano.org11:33
alabdActionParsnip:  farming or sx ?11:34
ActionParsnipalabd: sx?11:34
tavastiis there any command-line tool for disabling services? update-rc.d is not upstart compatible?11:36
alabde.g is there any strategy/RPG game without wrath and war and relate to brain ? an non-online ? ActionParsnip except  that pokemon11:37
alabdand silar moon11:37
ActionParsniptehbaut: http://www.ghacks.net/2009/06/09/linux-tips-modify-ctrl-alt-del-behavior/11:38
tehbautthanks :)11:38
meaniefacealabd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62145811:39
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tehbautok, I installed FF3.5 from the Synaptic App Manager and FF is still showing up as v211:40
LiMatiacan anyone please help me out here?11:41
rsktehbaut: try this11:41
erUSUL!ask | LiMatia11:41
ubottuLiMatia: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)11:41
rsktehbaut: run firefox-3.5 in a terminal11:41
fcuk112_tehbaut: cd /usr/bin; sudo rm firefox; sudo ln -s firefox-3.5 firefox.11:42
LiMatiai updated the laptops manager and when i tried to play videos online i could't11:42
kosmicwhy am, i getting choppy sound11:42
kosmicoss. pulse, alsa11:43
kosmicall choppyp11:43
pshr_!oss | kosmic11:43
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about oss11:43
pshr_!sound | kosmic11:43
ubottukosmic: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP311:43
kosmicwhy is alsa not default in ubuntu11:43
alabdmeanieface: see there is need game without war and wrath and not to be online and to be thinking game11:43
rskkosmic: alsa is default in ubuntu11:44
meaniefacealabd: thinking game as of how?11:45
LiMatiai can11:45
meaniefacealabd: like puzzles or RTS style?11:45
kosmicrsk, is that a new setting11:45
kosmicpulseaudio was default in earlier versions11:45
alabdwhat is RTS  meanieface ?11:46
tehbautbtw, is it possible to get gnome-terminal to remember its window position or size?11:46
rskkosmic: no every release of ubuntu has had alsa as default11:46
rskkosmic: pulseaudio is ontop of alsa11:46
user_hola11:46
LiMatiaI mean i can't seem to play videos online, can anyone please tell me what's wrong?11:46
GIR7590Hey, I recently installed SDL via apt-get, but whenever I try to compile something, it doesn't seem to see the libraries, and it always says "error: <sdl header file> : No such file or directory" (Replacing <sdl header file> with an actual header filename obvoisly)...11:46
kosmicrsk,  ohb11:46
meaniefacealabd: real time strategy11:46
GIR7590Any thoughts?11:46
kosmicrsk, so wht else can be ontop of alsa11:46
OSGUIAnonymouswow this room is so busy11:46
kosmicalsa on alsa?11:46
rskkosmic: jack, esd11:46
rskkosmic: probaly moer things11:46
alabdmeanieface: yes but without war and wrath11:46
GIR7590Anyone?11:47
rskGIR7590: you need the -dev packages11:47
meaniefacealabd: that's kinda tough considering RTS is pretty much about war and stuff11:48
rskGIR7590: regular packages don't contain headers11:48
joaopintoGIR7590, you need the libsdl DEV packages11:48
GIR7590like sdl-mixer<version>-dev Right?11:48
rskmaybe, not sure11:48
speedHello everyone11:48
GIR7590Hm, I think that may be my problem with some sections of SDL, but I installed the dev for mixer, and it still didn't detect it... Is there a full bundle for the -dev apckages?11:49
GIR7590packages*11:49
babakhi11:53
GIR7590Hey11:53
n2diyGIR7590: if your having dependiecy problems with your package manager, it could be a bug, and should be checked, and, or reportede11:53
legend2440GIR7590: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=115420811:54
GIR7590Thanks, I'll check that out.11:54
babakwhen i type this command   ‫‪hg clone http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/s2-liplianin‬‬  this output appear  bash: ‫‪hg: command not found  what is problem?11:54
n2diybabak: your not sudo?11:55
thijs_Ever since i installed some ati catalyst drivers my 8.10 installation won't load any program, because that leads to direct crash. How do i remove them ?11:55
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babakn2diy: yes i use sudo11:56
johannI am trying to install xubuntu on an old Toshiba. I need to generate custom xorg.conf file through the live CD. I can't install first and modify later since the normal installation ends in a black screen. Anyone have an idea of how to modify the live CD?11:56
n2diybabak: are you sure hg is installed? What is hg?11:56
Ademancan anyone explain to me how the gnome menu system works? where is the "structural" information for your menu kept? and I assume that there's a "master" copy of this which is used for new accounts.11:57
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Ademann2diy: hg is mercurial, a source control system like git or less so, svn or cvs11:57
babakn2diy: when i type hg this appear http://pastebin.com/m534847b511:58
Ademanbabak: what are you trying to do?11:58
babakAdeman: i want use this command  hg clone http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/s2-liplianin‬‬11:59
hylmananyone tried karmic moblin remix yet?11:59
erUSUL!karmic | hylman12:00
ubottuhylman: Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 29th, 2009 - Karmic is BETA and MAY break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+112:00
n2diybabak: the only "problem" I see, is you are logged in as root, why?12:00
Ademanbabak: then just run that command as it is, what exactly isn't working?12:00
Martin_vWHello, update-manager on my karmic notebooks hangs after having entered the password. I see in htop that update-manager has a subprocess gksu, and gksu has a sudo subprocess in turn. If I strace this sudo process, it prints only one line "restart_syscall" and hangs. Any ideas on what's going on here?12:00
hylmanI thought karmic moblin = ubuntu moblin remix 9.1012:01
Martin_vW*notebook12:01
Martin_vWMy main karmic machine is not affected.12:01
hylmanI tried it couple weeks ago, but it was still buggy... just wondering if this has been stable ever since12:01
babakn2diy: plese see this  http://pastebin.com/m6979dac012:02
AdemanMartin_vW: you may want to go to #ubuntu+112:02
estananyone experience printing stopping to work in openoffice with some recent update? it works from gedit/firefox et.c.12:02
charnelI installed Vim-Gnome and cannot use it in graphical mode when I type vim.gnome I see the standart Vim in conseol12:02
Ademanestan: it doesn't print on tuesday :-p12:02
MenZacharnel: Try "gvim"12:03
GIR7590I think I found my problem, looks like there isn't just a universal repo for all versions of Ubuntu, I am currently using Hardy Heron, and it isn't updating SDL to the extent that is needed by the source I am trying to compile, does anyone know if (If possible) I could update my repos so they use a newer version of Ubuntu's repos?12:03
estani've tried restarting cups and the printer, and /var/log/cups/* doesn't show anything special.12:03
estanAdeman: :)12:03
babakAdeman: when i type that command this error show http://pastebin.com/m6979dac012:03
icerootis it allowed to use 00 in cron instead of 0? something like 00 23 * * * sh foo.sh12:03
charnelMenZa: Solved thank you12:03
GIR7590I would upgrade, but I really don't feel like partitioning, or restarting from scratch on this system...12:03
MenZacharnel: Welcome.12:03
estanAdeman: dude you weren't kidding?!12:04
estani don't have a brother printer though, it's a HP laserjet.12:04
Ademanbabak: look at your command, there are two things &#8236;&#8236; at the end of your command, those weren't in the command you showed me, and they look like they shouldn't be there, try removing them when you run the command12:04
Ademanestan: haha yeah i was mostly joking, it's such an embarassing bug i'm sure it's fixed by now12:04
estanAdeman: well it's tuesday and it's worked before..12:05
GIR7590Any ideas anyone? :\12:05
AdemanGIR7590: what are you trying to build? and you can always do a dist-upgrade, but I've successfully added newer repositories, installed newer packages (from jaunty into my intrepid install) then disabled the newer repos12:06
AdemanGIR7590: also it seems terribly risky, so i'm not saying "do it" but just that it worked for me ;-)12:06
thijs_Ever since i installed some ati catalyst drivers my 8.10 installation won't load any program, because that leads to direct crash. How do i remove them ?12:06
GIR7590I am trying to build a little program called EDuke32, it requires newer SDL libraries than what I currently have...12:06
AdemanGIR7590: hah, i was building that a while ago12:07
c4ptmgolisch: ive spent the last 4 or 5 or 6 hrs editing the edid hex with a calculator and the wiki entries for what the byte positions means nothing works at all and i have observed i can only do twin view successfully when using ¨nv¨ instead of ¨nvidia¨ for the driver so i guess this meanings i am basically screwed to get compiz working and other stuff etc etc etc12:07
AdemanGIR7590: even when it did build for me it got stuck in an infinite loop soon after starting12:07
hylmanso nobody tried ubuntu moblin remix yet12:07
c4ptmgolisch: :( :(12:07
AdemanGIR7590: er, that was after i fixed one error in the source code to make it not segfault :-/ lol12:08
GIR7590Ademan: Sounds like you had fun. :o12:08
rskGIR7590: looked at? http://wiki.eduke32.com/wiki/Building_EDuke32_on_Linux12:08
GIR7590Yeah.12:08
rapha1hi!12:08
c4ptmgolisch: no matter what the hell i do with the ¨nvidia¨ driver it forces into 1280x1024 where as the `nv` driver just works.12:08
rskGIR7590: gotten in contact with upstream?12:08
GIR7590But my problem is with SDL, not nessecarilly EDUke32.12:08
GIR7590upstream?12:09
rskupstream = people who play with eduke32 source12:09
rapha1how can you create a ubuntu USB drive with a persistent home dir?12:09
GIR7590Oh, yeah...12:09
AdemanGIR7590: how do you know you need a newer version of SDL? it's been pretty stagnant, SDL 2.0 got permanently put on hold12:09
deepblue69ukCan anyone tell me the best way to backup your installed packages?12:09
rskdeepblue69uk: what's the intention of the backup?12:10
deepblue69ukI'm using Xubuntu and Linux Mint12:10
legend2440thijs_: in terminal try aticonfig --help i think there is a uninstall switch12:10
rapha1can you hear me?12:10
rskrapha1: no12:10
rapha1what a stupid answer12:10
deepblue69ukso I don't have to download them again if I need to re-install.12:10
GIR7590Ademan: http://pastebin.com/d2125aac712:10
GIR7590It was pretty obvious. :o12:10
rskdeepblue69uk: put then on whatever media then. dosen't matter.12:10
deepblue69uk:P12:10
rskthem*12:10
GIR7590I missed it, and assumed other problems12:10
rapha1i just want to know if anybody can help me what to search for on google to get usb disk with ubuntu and persistent home directory?12:11
aMuleAduGuest824hi guys12:11
deepblue69ukok....where are they located though...cos I always forget.12:11
aMuleAduGuest824i need help12:11
aMuleAduGuest824i'm a new users of ubuntu s.o.12:11
Mitalhey guys... i am getting some problem in automake... can anybody help me..12:11
aMuleAduGuest824can anyone help me12:11
AdemanGIR7590: that's confusing to me, first it says it doesn't have SDL_mixer.h then it says it's too old... forgive me for asking but you *do* have libsdl1.2-mixer-dev installed right? (package name not quite accurate)12:11
hylmananybody can help me with compiling source... autoconf returns the following error message: "configure.ac:4: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE12:11
hylman      If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.12:11
hylman      See the Autoconf documentation"12:11
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AdemanMital: everyone has problems with automake12:12
rskhylman: what's the application?12:12
GIR7590Ademan: Yes I do.12:12
rsker... Mital12:12
hylmanconnman12:12
Heckeli'm trying to install skype on ubuntu with console12:12
n2diydeepblue69uk: we are on a similiar mission, I'm running xubuntu, too. The best solution I have, is to create a "synaptic_list" file, every time  I run synaptic, I open the file, make my changes, save to the file, and then apply the changes. It won't back up your system, but all your synaptic additions are in one place.12:12
MitalAdeman: yeah... its not generating the .in files12:12
hsarciis virtual box beteter than wine????12:12
Heckel but the system doesn't find it12:13
thijs_legend2440, no there's no uninstall option12:13
hylmanit only has configure.ac, so I'm using autoconf... but with no luck12:13
GIR7590Ademan: I installed them just recently... I guess that's not the problem huh?12:13
indusHeckel: sudo dpkg -i skype12:13
erUSULhylman: do you have build-essential installed ?12:13
Heckelthank's12:13
meaniefacerapha1: you mean something like this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=109788812:13
indusHeckel: thats probably because skype is on the desktop12:13
* rapha1 reads12:13
indusHeckel: in a terminal do cd Desktop then try command12:13
rskhsarci: they are different things.12:13
MitalAdeman: not generating Makefile.in files and not even giving any error12:13
AdemanGIR7590: hrm, i wonder how they've decided SDL_mixer is too old... anyways if you're feeling brave you can change your repositories to point to intrepid and update your SDL dev files, and then change your repositories back12:13
rskhsarci: what do you want vbox or wine for?12:13
rapha1meanieface: w/o the truecrypt, but yeah! - thanks for the link!12:14
Heckelit doesn't work that12:14
meaniefacerapha1: no prob12:14
hylmanerUSUL: I'm not running it in my ubuntu box... but moblin instead...12:14
deepblue69uka virtualised Windows install will offer better compatibility I would think12:14
Heckeli wrote sudo dpkg -i skype but makes error ask for in stall12:14
AdemanMital: huh... is this for some Makefile.am and such that you've written?12:14
GIR7590Ademan: How do you do that? I've played around with the repos a bit before, and I had to fix them the first time around. :o12:14
Heckelindus can i open a pvt chat room with u12:14
indusHeckel: type sudo dpkg -i press tab after typing skype12:14
deepblue69ukHowever, you'd need a pretty fast machine to make up for the lack of speed in a virtual machine12:14
hsarcirsk, ive got applications that need to interface with my serial port that dont work with wine12:15
deepblue69ukSo with Wine, you'd get the best performance12:15
indusHeckel: no :) thats reserved for women only12:15
Heckelok12:15
kosmicsound is still choppy sometimes12:15
indusHeckel: is skype on your desktop?12:16
AdemanGIR7590: basically replace every 'hardy' in /etc/apt/sources.list with 'intrepid' but again it's a bit risky i guess (i dunno, worked for me, but i don't want to say "it'll definitely work")12:16
r3zanathan7: hey , r u there , i got this error when i use command ( APTONCD ) : http://pastebin.com/d404d3f9712:16
kosmicit wasnt like this on my previous buntu nstall12:16
kosmicisntall12:16
indusHeckel: in linux, you can autocomplete package name with tab12:16
rskhsarci: how do they fail?12:16
indus!tab12:16
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.12:16
GIR7590Ademan: Thanks, I'll try that... I'll first back up stuff though. :p12:16
Heckeland can anyone help me with the webcam and the monitor mic of my acer doesn't work with ubuntu12:16
AdemanGIR7590: definitely! good luck...12:16
hsarcirsk, it just doesn't work....it doesn't see the device12:16
rskhsarci: then virtualbox won't help12:17
nathan7r3za: Hmm'12:17
marcus__ufw12:17
AdemanGIR7590: also any reason why you don't just upgrade to intrepid altogether?12:17
rskhsarci: virtualbox nor wine provies configuration that makes the underlying system work12:17
Heckelif i download the site version of skype for linux is it ok12:17
AdemanGIR7590: it'd probably be less risky12:17
hsarcirsk, ok thanks12:17
rskhsarci: you need to fix it in linux before you can use it in wine or vbox12:17
nathan7r3za: Strange, very strange.12:17
dreamydoens anyone knows this error ? from transmission -- fproblem connecting to tracker -- http error 404 not found12:17
r3zanathan7: that mean i have a lot of file ?12:18
nathan7r3za: Sec, lemme fetch aptoncd12:18
meaniefacedreamy: a stale torrent maybe?12:19
dreamymeanieface:  ive tryed several.. different sorts of files (torrents)12:19
dreamybut whats .. stale ?12:20
nathan7dreamy: No seeders.12:20
meaniefacedreamy: not active anymore per se12:20
MitalAdeman: yeah... I am using configure.in ... and added macro AC_OUTPUT(Makefile bin/Makefile) do I need to specify anything else ?12:20
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dreamyok12:20
r3zanathan7: what ? sorry i cant understand english well ..12:20
dreamyhowever ive tryed several files.//12:20
nathan7r3za: I'm researching for you.,12:20
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r3zanathan7: wow , thanks12:20
dreamyand on my other PC... here aside me.. i started downloading the file12:20
meaniefacedreamy: how are you downloading the torrents?12:21
AdemanMital: honestly i always avoided autotools like the plague, so much that I actually wrote my own build system... you might have better luck getting help in another channel (not sure which though)  but before you do, have you considered trying out scons or cmake?12:21
dreamyjust clicking on the dialog boxes. and using transmission12:21
nathan7r3za: I think you need something after -l12:21
nathan7r3za:        -l, --cache-dir=PATH12:21
GIR7590Ademan: It worked! Now I have fully functiional intrepid repos... \o/12:21
nathan7r3za:               Uses PATH as apt cache dir (instead of /var/cache/apt/archives12:21
GIR7590Now to work on EDuke32.12:22
AdemanGIR7590: nice! good luck12:22
meaniefacedreamy: but i mean from the net, are you downloading them to your comp first12:22
meaniefacedreamy: or are you just letting transmission open them from the web browser12:22
r3zanathan7: no , i move all package from /var/cache/apt/archives to other folder ..12:22
dreamyyes.. from a web page12:22
meaniefacedreamy: download the torrent file12:22
nathan7r3za: -What is /media/Other/Linux/Package/last/archives?12:22
MitalAdeman: I have not tried scons ... not a python freak... but do u think its easier to learn those tools than writing in makefiles ?12:22
meaniefacedreamy: then open it12:22
nathan7r3za: Is it a file12:22
nathan7r3za: or a directory?12:23
GIR7590Ademan: I now have 728 updates. :p12:23
dreamyk ill try it :)12:23
r3zanathan7: directory12:23
kosmicrsk, okay, you want to hear how i solved the choppy sound issue12:23
dreamyty12:23
rsknope :p12:23
kosmici ran `modeprobe -r ath5k`12:23
kosmicath5k is broken r something12:23
kosmic`ath5k phy0: noise floor calibration time out (2412MHz)`12:24
kosmicthat shows up all the time in dmesh12:24
kosmicdmesg12:24
dreamymeanieface: it worked12:24
nathan7r3za: aptoncd -l /media/Other/Linux/Package/last/archives?12:24
nathan7r3za: =)12:24
meaniefacedreamy: i had that problem before12:25
dreamyk12:25
kosmicwhere is the ubuntu dev channel12:25
marcus`hi, i have a creative xfi (i know i know) with 9.04 and i had to manually compile the latest alsa drivers from source to get sound... my problem is it doesn't seem to play well with pulseaudio. for instance i installed ventrilo in wine and set it all up but the only way i could use mic was completely removing pulseaudio from system, my question is are there any workarounds to this?12:25
r3zanathan7: -p no -l12:25
n2diykosmic: #ubuntu-kernel?12:25
r3zanathan7: i write this : reza@Reza-PC:~$ aptoncd -p /media/Other/Linux/Package/Last/archives -l12:25
kosmiclet me try that12:25
AdemanMital: CMake and SCons are both very nice, and autotools are very old and crappy.  However autotools is more widespread, but honestly these days unless you want to deploy to hpux, you're fine with scons or cmake12:26
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hsarciis there a good partition manager available that can handle resizing well?12:27
n2diyhsarci: gparted.12:28
hsarcithanks12:28
shawn_How can I get gmail to work with IMAP?12:29
marcus`shawn12:29
marcus`what client?12:29
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shawn_marcus`, Thunderbird12:30
marcus`sec12:30
marcus`first make sure you enabled IMAP In your gmail settings: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=7769512:31
marcus`then do this: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=7766212:31
marcus`probably have to use the edit menu instead of tools since that is for windows but it's the same process ;p12:31
marcus`hi all, i have a creative xfi (i know i know) with 9.04 and i had to manually compile the latest alsa drivers from source to get sound... my problem is it doesn't seem to play well with pulseaudio. for instance i installed ventrilo in wine and set it all up but the only way i could use mic was completely removing pulseaudio from system, my question is are there any workarounds to this?12:32
KriSztiANguys plz a little halp!12:32
KriSztiANhow can i config my ubuntu?12:33
meaniefacemarcus`: have you tried putting pulseaudio on the backburner?12:33
dreamymeanieface: but theres not particular reazon for it to stop working.. for no purpose?12:33
KriSztiANit doesnt see my NIC12:33
shawn_KriSztiAN, Config it for what?12:33
KriSztiANand i dont haven a IP adress12:33
tehbautarg, FF 3.5 keeps crashing and it still has the minefield icon! wt..?12:33
meaniefacedreamy: i don't really use transmission i use rtorrent, so i download the torrents anyway12:33
rezdKriSztiAN, more information is needed.12:33
shawn_KriSztiAN, In the terminal type lspci.,.. Is it showing there?12:33
dreamymeanieface: ok ;)12:34
rezdWhich network are you try to connect to, internal LAN or Internet?12:34
shawn_KriSztiAN, lspci -a12:34
marcus`meanieface how do i do that?12:34
meaniefacemarcus`: hold on12:34
marcus`thanks12:34
tehbautwhy is FF 3.5 running as shiretoko?12:34
shawn_KriSztiAN, Did you just install this card?12:34
KriSztiANa lots of Wmvare thigs12:34
krzd_hi, i have got some problem with usb_modeswitch and my UMTS stick, wich I really need. If anyone can help, please find the error message with more detailed problem description on http://paste.frubar.net/11261 . Thanks in advance12:35
meaniefacemarcus`: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/ubuntu-904-jaunty-keeping-the-beast-pulseaudio-at-bay/12:35
KriSztiANi dont know... this is a copied wmware thing12:35
meaniefacemarcus`: this does work as i had to do it to get some progs to work12:35
mohan1Hi friends Can we do voice chat with kopete?12:36
shawn_KriSztiAN, I cant help if you dont give more information... Does the network adapter display in lspci?12:36
marcus`meanieface: do you know if this will also work in karmic?12:36
marcus`because i tried karmic beta12:36
meaniefacemarcus`: no im sorry, i haven't installed karmic12:36
marcus`and it seems t ouse pulseaudio for everything12:36
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marcus`ok, thanks12:36
KriSztiANyeah i think so12:36
nic1what is the file where i can check what possible sessions i have to choose from during my login?12:37
r3zanathan7: how do i fix this?12:37
indusmohan1: no12:38
indusmohan1: use skype12:38
mohan1thank you12:38
indusmohan1: webcam is supported in kopete12:38
mohan1okay.12:38
Flasbang73is there a specific channel for karmic or can i get help here?12:38
shawn_KriSztiAN, Did you just install this card or what?12:39
krzd_Flasbank73: join #ubuntu+112:39
meaniefaceFlasbang73: #ubuntu+112:39
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indusFlasbang73: #ubuntu+112:39
TheKroI'm having trouble with rsync: it keeps transferring the whole directory structure (25Gigs), isntead of just the files that have changed12:39
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KriSztiANi dont know... ijust start the ubuntu server... and the "install aptitude mc" dont work12:40
shawn_Alright you may need to configure your network settings then12:40
n2diyFlasbang73, Curious, where in Pa are you? I'm in Carbon County.12:40
meaniefaceKriSztiAN: what are you trying to do?12:40
TheKroCommand I'm executing is: "sudo rsync -av --delete --exclude-from '/home/skroon/misc/personal/backups/mania-spider-excludes.txt' /home/skroon/ mania_bak/linux/"12:40
shawn_KriSztiAN, type this "sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces"12:40
KriSztiANthe teacher said it has a hard thing to do12:40
TheKro./mania_bak/linux is on a Windows samba share12:40
gamerx!ot | gamerx12:40
ubottugamerx, please see my private message12:41
nic1what is the file where i can check what possible sessions i have to choose from during my login?12:41
rezdKriSztiAN: it seems you are running Ubuntu from a VMWare virtual machine, is that correct?12:41
KriSztiAN<meanieface> is just want to install some programs12:41
KriSztiANyes it is12:41
n2diy! boot12:41
ubottuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto12:41
nic1where can i see session manager?12:41
shawn_rezd, Oh he is? My mistake >.>12:41
shawn_KriSztiAN, Sorry I didnt realise you were doing this from a Virtual Machien12:42
shawn_KriSztiAN, I was reading wrong12:42
rezd/msg shawn_ he is not very clear. :-)12:42
n2diynicl, see the message from ubottu?12:42
shawn_rezd, :)12:42
mo0nykitHi! I forgot to compile uvcvideo for my custom kernel. Now I can't use my webcam. How do I compile a particular module (and other needed drivers) so I can then load it using modprobe?12:42
meaniefaceKriSztiAN: what programs you want midnight commander?12:42
meaniefaceKriSztiAN: i'm sorry i haven't been following everything but i saw mc12:43
KriSztiANlisten ... i just trying to install MC and it seems i dont have a NIC12:44
KriSztiANall this in wmvare12:44
iceroothow to print the contet from all vars which are starting with backup? something like echo $backup*12:44
tehbautdidn't ubuntu 8.xx support the win+D combo to show the desktop?12:45
n2diy! pipes | iceroot12:45
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pipes12:45
meaniefaceKriSztiAN: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-512978.html12:46
meaniefaceKriSztiAN: that should help you12:46
n2diy! redirection | iceroot12:46
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about redirection12:46
rezdOh dear I am using Empathy to test and it doesn't let me do some things.12:46
icerootn2diy: you have a direct anwser? maybe an example?12:46
* rezd sticks foot in mouth12:47
n2diyiceroot, no, I'm fishing, with out much luck!12:47
KriSztiANthx i fixed12:47
KriSztiANi jsut configure my wirtal NIC card in wmvare12:47
meaniefaceKriSztiAN: nice12:48
n2diyiceroot, but piping, and/or redirection should get you started?12:48
icerootn2diy: hm piping? something like cat foo | grep bar?12:49
n2diyiceroot, not sure, might be more like cat foo > grep bar?12:50
icerootn2diy: no12:50
resno_hey guys, i am installing karmac koala and id say, its looking more polished then ever before!12:52
resno_actaully, karmic12:52
n2diyiceroot, ok, try researching output redirection, I think that is what you'r looking for?12:52
rh2 hey all , im about to throw my laptop through the window so please don't let me do it i need to change spell checker from english to spanish to correct grammar mistakes and can't do it tools/options/writing aids i change it to spanish and nothing why ??12:52
icerootn2diy: i dont think so, i am just searching for wildcards for var-names12:52
icerootn2diy: or regex12:53
rh2oppenoffice 3.0.112:53
n2diyiceroot, ok, I thought you where trying to save the results to a file?12:53
albasheers1hi i am using ubuntu 8.10 ,  I have  inserted edubuntu   addon cd 9.04, after that add /remove application started then I removed that cd now I am getting this  whenever I treid to update "not all updates can be installed " how to fix this12:53
zirodayrh2: one sec12:53
icerootn2diy: no12:54
roflparrot_how can i tell whether an alternate installer is server or desktop edition?12:54
meaniefacealbasheers1: type in sudo apt-get autoremove12:54
iceroothow to use grep to find all matching for backup/ but not for foo_backup/   something like grep backup/  but only matching all strings STARTING with backup12:55
nic1how to create an init script on ubuntu?12:55
n2diyroflparrot_: does the help menu tell you?12:55
gartralhow do i tell what's making my hdd crazy?12:55
Gneanic1: model it after the skeleton file12:55
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indusroflparrot_: the name of the iso might unless u changed name12:55
Hajexpython 2.5  in my system (ubuntu garrdy 8.04) couldnt detect package each time I write (import) error message is displayed (no module ) .. even Tkinter12:56
Hajex.. where is the problem?12:56
zirodayrh2: select all the text, Tools > Language > For Selection > Spanish12:56
n2diygartral: run "top" in a terminal.12:56
albasheers1meanieface: it is saying  0 upgraded 0 removed12:56
nic1Gnea, what is modeling and what is skeleton file?12:56
roflparrot_sorry n2diy I mean from the download page http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/12:56
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meaniefacealbasheers1: try sudo apt-get purge12:56
Gneanic1: do you know where initscripts are kept?12:56
nic1in /etc/12:56
roflparrot_they say either desktop, server, or alternate12:56
rh2fu...g AAA thank you !12:56
icerootGnea: /etc/init.d/12:56
Gneanic1: they are?12:56
nic1yeah12:56
roflparrot_I want alternate Desktop12:56
albasheers1meanieface: same thing12:56
Gneanic1: I disagree.12:57
meaniefacealbasheers1: hmm12:57
luisthey.. im trying to configure my NIS client, but im still missing something... im supposed to use the login from anoter machine.... id luist recognizes this login (its not created locally, but mounted - nfs) but i cant really login directly using it... can anyone help me?12:57
rh2ziroday: 10x beers12:57
zirodayrh2: have fun12:57
Gneanic1: [06:56] <iceroot> Gnea: /etc/init.d/12:57
rh2ziroday: thanks12:57
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n2diyroflparrot_: scroll down half a page, the servers are there.12:58
Gneanic1: so you should read the skeleton file there, for starters12:58
lesshasteI am trying to play http://mfile.akamai.com/15525/wmv/webcast.ucdavis.edu/Engineering/2007/ECS/ECS222A/ECS222A_10-1-07.asx . Firefox very nicely asks if it can look for suitable plugins and then fails to find one12:58
nic1Gnea, ok so if i need to add anything to init, then i need to place the script here??12:58
lesshastewhat should I do?12:58
roflparrot_mmmm and up the top are the desktops12:58
Gneanic1: well, you need to make sure the script is written correctly. the skeleton file is your key.12:58
roflparrot_and then there's alternate...12:59
albasheers1 i am using ubuntu 8.10 ,  I have  inserted edubuntu   addon cd 9.04, after that add /remove application started then I removed that cd now I am getting this  whenever I treid to update "not all updates can be installed " how to fix this12:59
zirodaylesshaste: I would recommend downloading the file and then attempting to play it with VLC or something similar12:59
lesshastedo I need the bad and ugly gstreamer plugins?12:59
zirodayalbasheers1: in a terminal do sudo aptitude full-upgrade12:59
Gneanic1: from there, you need to make it so the system knows to run it on bootup and shutdown using the update-rc.d command12:59
lesshastethe exact error message is The requested plugins are:12:59
lesshasteMicrosoft Media Server (MMS) protocol source12:59
nic1ok..what does this comment line mean? # /etc/rc.d/slim: start/stop slim13:00
icerootnic1: its a comment13:00
icerootnic1: because of the #13:00
albasheers1ziroday: will this command upgrade my ubuntu to 9.0413:00
zirodaylesshaste: I have a feeling you'll find you can only use a windows machine to play that file, but give it a try with VLC13:00
Gneanic1: it's a comment, it doesn't get executed13:00
zirodayalbasheers1: possibly, by mixing repositories you can seriously break your machine13:01
nic1that's a comment but y did they tell the path, /etc/rc.d......??13:01
luisthow can i make a route permanent? I added it with: route add -net 192.168.10.0/24 gw 192.168.0.113:01
Gneanic1: probably a really old comment13:02
albasheers1ziroday:I don't want to upgrade my ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 , is there any other way13:02
lesshasteziroday, hmm13:02
bazhangalbasheers1, you just want to edubuntu to intrepid?13:02
zirodayalbasheers1: no, this is what happens when you mix different version of ubuntu repositories13:02
Gnea!upgrade | albasheers113:02
ubottualbasheers1: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading13:02
nic1it's explaining i need to place the script in some rc.d in etc..but there are many rcX.d13:02
bazhangalbasheers1, add edubuntu to intrepid?13:02
nic1in whichone do i need top ut?13:03
Gneanic1: again, this is what update-rc.d is for13:03
zirodaybazhang: no, he's installed stuff from the jaunty edubuntu cd onto his intrepid install, and now apt is complaining13:03
Gneanic1: the script only goes in /etc/init.d/13:03
bazhangziroday, thanks13:03
Gneanic1: the rcX.d/ directories get symlinked to init.d/13:03
roflparrot_If I choose ubuntu-9.10-beta-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent, am i going to get a server edition?13:04
nic1Gnea, thank you13:04
marcus`no rofl13:04
roflparrot_excellent13:04
nic1one more questio, with what name do i need to create the script?13:04
roflparrot_because I downloaded that one, but at the time it was obvious what i was getting13:04
meaniefacealbasheers1: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+question/6169213:04
Gneanic1: depends what it's for13:04
nic1i mean, is that upto me? or same as the package i installed? it's a display manager13:05
rezdroflparrot: you should get the alternate iso used for text installs and adding RAID or LVM.13:05
Gneanic1: it should reflect what it's running13:05
ActionParsniproflparrot_: no, just the laternate desktop installer13:05
joaopinto!karmic | roflparrot_13:05
ubotturoflparrot_: Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 29th, 2009 - Karmic is BETA and MAY break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+113:05
roflparrot_cool. I have the alternate server installer already. I just wanted to make sure I didn't get it again. i ahvea  data limit13:06
ActionParsniproflparrot_: then use the net installer, you will instal the OS from the repos, saves having to install a snapshot then upgrade from the repos13:07
nic1gnea, what is the significance of init.d contents?13:07
tamei have copied a .ttf to every folder in my system imaginable (~/.fonts, /usr/share/fonts, /usr/share/fonts/some_directory, /usr/share/fonts/truetype etc..) and run fc-cache -vf but STILL, they do not show up in open office. WHAT GIVES?13:07
roflparrot_ActionParsnip: I have a 3g modem, which would be a pain to configure to do that without a desktop13:08
Gneanic1: I don't understand your question...13:08
Gnea!init | nic113:08
ubottunic1: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto13:08
rezdrofl_: AFAIAA, there are three type of ISO images (excluding remix and processor variations): server, desktop and alternative13:08
ActionParsniproflparrot_: it'll use less data which you said is a premium13:08
marcus`does anyone know if there are any repercussions to installing ubuntustudio audio video grapics meta packages inside regular ubuntu? i think it also installs the realtime kernel, so.. im wondering if this would break my system13:08
roflparrot_yeah... it'd use pretty much no data13:08
roflparrot_anyway thanks for you help13:09
ActionParsnipmarcus`: could try it, you can always remove it if its bad13:09
marcus`heh, i dunno, i'm kinda not wanting to try stuff atm, just want to know if anyone did it successfully13:10
n2diyroflparrot_, the command line is your friend, don't shun it.13:10
bazhangmarcus`, you want the whole ubuntustudio suite? ubuntustudio-desktop is the package then13:10
Theexpertscannot install ubuntu 8.04 because of an initramfs error/problem. can any one help :?13:11
marcus`well from what i understand that'll turn my ubuntu into ubuntustudio basically13:11
marcus`i just want the choice to use the rt kernel with the packages available in studio13:11
n2diyTheexperts: sounds like a bad CD burn?13:11
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psycho_oreosis there a way to specify gtkpod to not use xmms as xmms no longer exist?13:11
bazhangmarcus`, you can boot into gnome and use the apps, better most likely with the -rt kernel depending on your needs13:11
frogzoomarcus`: I thought the stock kernel was as near as damn rt as is13:12
marcus`yeah the audio metapackage selects the rt kernel afaik13:12
meaniefaceTheexperts: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76715413:12
Theexpertsn2diy: no its image file i want to install in VMWare i used this image file more than 5 times13:12
iceroothow to get all set variables with a command?13:12
marcus`im not really sure about that stuff frog13:12
frogzooiceroot: env13:12
Gneaiceroot: set13:12
marcus`ive only really been using linux for a couple months now13:12
c4ptmgolisch: :(13:13
marcus`i learn fast but, heh.13:13
icerootfrogzoo: thx13:13
sancsengohi13:13
frogzoocheers13:13
icerootGnea: i like the output from env more :)13:13
Gneaiceroot: ah, I see13:13
n2diyTheexperts: ok, there is no standard for writing and reading CDs, so what worked on one machine might not work on another.13:13
meaniefacen2diy: why wouldn't it?13:14
meowmintxanyone know if ubuntu 10 is full release yet13:14
nic1Gnea, i actually copied the init script for one display manager, will i  be able to see that displace manager during login session now?13:14
Theexpertsok13:14
marcus`meowmintx,  not yet13:14
marcus`it's still beta13:14
rsk!karmic | meowmintx13:14
ubottumeowmintx: Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 29th, 2009 - Karmic is BETA and MAY break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+113:14
n2diyTheexperts: ok, there is no standard.13:14
Gneanic1: okay, so did you edit it?13:15
nic1Gnea, yes i have created slim script in init.d13:15
icerootn2diy: there is no cd-Standard?13:15
Theexpertsn2diy: what i have to do13:15
meowmintxok i see that there are a few different downloads of ubuntu 913:15
icerootn2diy: look at the ISO-definition13:15
nic1and rebooting the machine, will be able to see new display manager during login sessions??13:15
DegotHi,ALL.. I have 2nd level domain and PC with public IP and BIND9 (Ubuntu 9.04 amd64)... I want that 3rd level domains (www.domain.com , test.domain.com) will be located at BIND9... How to configure BIND?13:15
rskmeowmintx: yes there is 9.04 and 9.10 BETA.13:15
Gneanic1: okay, now you need to use the update-rc.d command to remove gdm or whatever the current dm is, and use update-rc.d again to allow slim to be the dm13:16
meowmintxno i mean ubuntu 9 alternitave, ubuntu 9 desktop etc13:16
n2diyiceroot: I'd like to, can you point me to it?13:16
meowmintxwhat the differance13:16
bulan_lucuhi13:16
exodus_msproblem with 9.04 64bit. I boot up system, cpu(s) running ~60% with no apps running and the top gnome-panel is blinking on and off13:16
ActionParsnipmeowmintx: those have always been around, in the previos releases13:16
icerootn2diy: google13:16
rskmeowmintx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation%20using%20the%20Alternate%20CD13:17
meaniefacelol13:17
icerootn2diy: also, iso-defintions are not free (as in free bear)13:17
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rskmeowmintx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall13:17
meowmintxi'm new what the differnce13:17
c4ptActionParsnip: yo13:17
icerootn2diy: but of course there is a standard (called red-book for e.g.)13:17
rskmeowmintx: look at thoose links13:17
nic1Gnea, update-rc.d is asking me for an option13:17
Gneanic1: so follow the directions13:17
n2diyiceroot: ok, I thought you had it handy, and I'm not interested in free bears! :)13:17
meaniefacen2diy: if he said it worked 5 times before wouldn't that be the machines fault and not the cd?13:17
nic1Gnea, what directions?13:18
Gneanic1: it asks you for an option. see what the option is for and how to use it.13:18
emmanueldhello, I currently have a problem while trying to setup my wired network connection up on my freshly installed Ubuntu 9.10 beta - NetworkManageris crashing, and as a consequence refure to 1) set up the connection 2) remember the settings I put13:18
emmanuelddid someone has the same issue ?13:18
ActionParsnip!9.10 | emmanueld13:18
ubottuemmanueld: Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 29th, 2009 - Karmic is BETA and MAY break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+113:18
Dr_Willisnic1:  as a quick and dirty way - you could just start slim from rc.local :)13:18
n2diymeanieface: no, I have CDs that work/verify on one machine, and fail on another, it is a PITA13:18
meaniefacen2diy: but what im saying is, i think thats a hardware issue not a cd issue13:19
GneaDr_Willis: why attempt to undo that which is mostly already done? :)13:19
icerootn2diy: that is because of a bad burner/reader13:20
icerootn2diy: but nothing about cd-standard13:20
david__help, every time I try to dual screen on ubuntu 9.10 it crashes13:20
n2diymeanieface: could be, put the CD burner in the target box, and see if it can read the CD there?13:20
meaniefaceiceroot: exactly13:20
nic1Dr_Willis, what is rc.local?13:20
exodus_msI've tried metacity --replace but the top panel is still blinking on and off and system is still running ~60%. I have also disabled devilspie and conky13:20
icerootmeanieface: yes, of course13:20
ActionParsnip!9.10 | david__13:20
ubottudavid__: Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 29th, 2009 - Karmic is BETA and MAY break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+113:20
meaniefacen2diy: im not having the issue13:20
david__ActionParsnip: i know=P13:21
nic1Gnea, i will post my init script in pastebin, can you please tell me what update-rc command do i need to run exactly?13:21
n2diymeanieface: but, you are trying to help.13:21
psycho_oreosis there a way to specify gtkpod to not use xmms as xmms no longer exist? I've tried to start xmms2d but even at that is no dice and this also includes symlinking /usr/bin/xmms to /usr/bin/xmms213:21
Gneanic1: typing:  man update-rc.d  will tell you what the options are for13:21
meowmintxok so as i underatand things for most purposes desktop is the best13:21
meaniefacen2diy: yes, but i'm trying to correct you when you told him it could be a bad cd13:21
meaniefacen2diy: when he said he had gotten it to work 5 times before13:21
ActionParsnipdavid__: then why ask in her eif you know?13:21
meowmintxalternitave is if somehow you cant install the desktop13:21
tameWhy won't the fonts I installed show up in open office?13:22
Dr_Willisnic1:  /etc/rc.local ran as the last script from the init process.13:22
andypiperoh... doesn't OO.org have some separate font process? it always used to...13:23
meowmintxi do wish there was just one cd that could install to both i386 and amd64 comps13:23
n2diymeanieface: no, I said it could be the CD isn't being read by the current CD reader. There is no standard for CDs like there where for floppies, or hard disks. What is the CHS for a CD?13:23
andypiperhaven't they sorted that out yet? *sigh*13:23
meaniefacen2diy: if there wasn't a standard i think there'd be alot more problems out there13:23
joaopintomeowmintx, that is not tecnhically possible due to the CD size13:23
meowmintxwell dvd then13:24
meaniefacen2diy: it's fine, i see what you are trying to say but i don't agree with the statement13:24
icerootn2diy: can you please stop posting incorrect informations? of course there is a cd-standard. ask the ISO13:24
erUSULmeowmintx: a 1.4 GiB CD ? you need double the space ;)13:24
ActionParsnipmeowmintx: you can make one with a menu system and both images13:24
ActionParsnipitd be a dvd13:24
* erUSUL nods13:24
tehbautok, I'm trying to install something and it says to cd to the dir containing the source... ok, done13:24
nic1Gnea, i went through the man page but not quiet clear13:24
n2diyiceroot, where is the standard, besides google?13:24
tehbautnow it says to run ./configure13:24
tehbautcan't do it13:24
joaopintomeanieface, that can be done, just research and build it yourself, is not a commonly requested option :)13:25
boscopcan I do 1000 recursion levels?13:25
tehbaut"no such file or directory"13:25
tehbautso how do I install this thing?13:25
meaniefacejoaopinto: what the heck are you talkin about13:25
joaopintoboscop, you mean in the directory structure ?13:25
icerootn2diy: at ISO13:25
Gneanic1: it gives numerous examples...13:25
ActionParsniptehbaut: read the readme and install files13:25
n2diymeanieface: what I find surprising is there are less issues with Cds!?13:25
joaopintoopas was for meowmintx13:25
icerootn2diy: international standard organisation13:25
boscopjoaopinto: no, on the stack13:25
ActionParsniptehbaut: not everything uses configure either13:25
tehbautActionParsnip: I am, it's not working like it says it should13:25
meaniefacejoaopinto: haha no prob13:25
tehbautActionParsnip: why would it tell me to run it if it doesn't need me to13:26
joaopintoboscop, that depends on the stack size and how many data is being pushed at each recursion13:26
ActionParsniptehbaut: is there an autogen file, some apps have one of thse you need to run first13:26
boscopjoaopinto: how can I find out how big the stack is?13:26
ActionParsniptehbaut: can you link me to the tar.gz and i'll see where you have to compile from13:26
meaniefacen2diy: i'm not sure what you are gettin at but i don't think i can explain it anymore13:27
boscopjoaopinto: I just push one int13:27
boscopas argument13:27
joaopintoboscop, I believe it's 2^32 bytes, on a 32 bits system, if you have that much RAM :)13:28
Gneanic1: the first example is usually the one that works13:28
tehbautActionParsnip: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/download.php?content=97866&id=1&tan=2517514213:28
tehbaut==> TaskDock13:28
meowmintxover one hour to download an iso shesh13:28
joaopintoboscop, alsdo depends on ulimit -s13:29
joaopintostack size              (kbytes, -s) 819213:29
joaopinto:P13:29
n2diymeanieface: Ok I googled it, ISO 9660, and there are a half a dozen "standards".13:29
boscopjoaopinto: 819213:29
boscopyea13:29
joaopintoboscop, ulimit -s unlimited13:29
boscopjoaopinto: but there are already functions on the stack from the OS13:30
meaniefacen2diy: ok so you are tellin me if i burn something and it works on 10 machines but there are 3 machines that the cd doesn't work on that its the cd's fault?13:30
meowmintxtorrent seems better for download13:30
bliiphi! how can i check what graphic driver I'm using?13:30
frogzoomeanieface: there's type 1 & type 2 cd formats, and older cds can't read the type 213:31
n2diymeanieface: or the readers fault, or a combination of both?13:31
Dr_Willismeowmintx:  depends on the # shareing the torrent. might be fast... might be slow.13:31
frogzoomeanieface: for a cookie, I bet the 3 machines are older..13:31
ActionParsniptehbaut: there is no configure script there so I'd head straight to make13:31
meaniefacefrogzoo: then wouldn't that be a HARDWARE issue?13:31
frogzoomeanieface: nooo13:32
ActionParsniptehbaut: make sure you have all the -dev dependancies so you can compile it13:32
nic1Gnea, i was trying starting from the second one, first one ran but with a warning saying update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/slim missing LSB information, how serious is this warning?13:32
meowmintxtorrent is working faster than mirror13:32
frogzoomeanieface: well, maybe13:32
meaniefacefrogzoo: ok his words were, "cd's don't have standards"13:32
frogzoomeowmintx: as is usual13:32
Hajexis there any tool to detect problem in system ?13:33
frogzoomeanieface: reburn for type 1 format & see how you go13:33
n2diyHajex: log files, /var/log13:33
Gneanic1: not sure13:33
meaniefacefrogzoo: i'm not having the issue13:33
frogzooright, I'll shut up then13:33
Hajexn2diy thanks13:33
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joaopintoboscop, right, I told you the max, not the max for your own use :P13:34
psycho_oreosanyone used gtkpod?13:35
meowmintxeven if torrent iso takes along time to download are they fairly stable13:36
ActionParsnipmeowmintx: torrenting also gives extra error checking to the data13:36
Hajexn2diy .. I have problem with python and yesterday it makes the system crached and not work till I reinstall python and gnome .. I wnat to know how can I find the source of this problem13:36
ActionParsnipmeowmintx: but you should still md5 test the file13:36
lobitohi13:38
nic1Gnea how can i start the new display manager now? i dont see that in login session now?13:38
M4K4V3l1hi everyone13:38
n2diyHajex:note the time of the crash, and check your log files to see what happened at that time. It is a PITA looking through all the files, but that is the only way I know how to do it.13:38
BoxMagnetnic1, startx13:39
Gneanic1: you need to make sure the init script is written right13:39
GneaBoxMagnet: startx bypasses the dm13:39
BoxMagnetdm?13:39
M4K4V3l1I got a problem in nfs.. the error message : mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 172.16.50.52:/home/amine13:39
GneaBoxMagnet: display manager13:39
Hajexok.. thanks n2diy13:39
BoxMagnetoh....13:40
nic1Gnea, i just copied the init script so it wil be fine13:40
Gneanic1: you said it has an LSB error?13:40
nic1startx? wil that start new display manager?? how will startx decide which display manager needs to be started?13:40
M4K4V3l1it's a famous problem.. but I still can't resolve13:40
nic1Gnea, ya there is a LSB error, what is the error meaning actually?13:41
Gneanic1: it doesn't, ignore it13:41
Gneanic1: it means the script isn't written right13:41
ActionParsnipM4K4V3l1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255872&highlight=mounting+shares13:41
nic1oh..ok13:41
switchgirlEEEhay baby  wanna come over to myspace and twitter my yahoo till I google all over your facebook?13:41
rainiehelo13:41
M4K4V3l1ActionParsnip: thx13:41
Gnea!ot | switchgirlEEE13:41
ubottuswitchgirlEEE: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!13:41
DJones!ot | switchgirlEEE13:41
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rainiemy pigding no connect! help me...13:42
M4K4V3l1ActionParsnip: but the problem is with nfs.. not samba13:42
nic1Gnea, script i just copied it exaclty..can't we able to know what is the error exactly?13:43
Gnearainie: please try #pidgin13:43
BoxMagnetActionParsnip, might i recommend mounting via SSH ?13:43
AnirbanHazraIs there any official Twitter channel for Ubuntu ?13:43
rezdrainie: what are you try to connect to MSN, Yahoo?13:43
Gneanic1: you said you would pastebin the script. you did not.13:43
meowmintxif anyone wants to get a ubuntu with a 5sec boot with only 100mb ram check this out. http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=3455413:43
zeeblehey, is there a ubuntu netinstall iso?13:43
Gneanic1: and, like I said, you have to edit the script, you can't just copy it and hope that a rename will make it work - it doesn't work like that13:43
IdleOne!minimal | zeeble13:43
ubottuzeeble: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD13:43
meowmintxthen tweek tweek tweek13:43
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IdleOne!ot > meowmintx13:44
ubottumeowmintx, please see my private message13:44
zeebledamnit. the screen was scrolling so fast it was difficult to copy that link13:44
zeeblethanks IdleOne13:44
nic1i created a file and printed all the lines looking at original13:44
meowmintxwhat this is relevent its on topic.13:45
rezdAre there any guides from moving from CentOS/Fedora/Red Hat to Ubuntu?13:45
Gneameowmintx: wrong.13:45
JacobThey room13:45
JacobTmy computer does weird thigns13:45
rezdJacobT: so does mine. :-)13:45
icerootwhat is * (everything) in regex? like abcd  = a*d  so its matched because everything between a and d is allowed13:45
JacobTfor one it artifacts a lot ont eh RT hand side of the LCD13:45
Gneaiceroot: [a-d]13:45
JacobTthe icons in my toolbars will all the sudden squish together13:46
JacobTif the screen saver comes on and i type in the password it takes 2 minuts for it to actully log back in13:46
Slaveryyyhello gud evning, i have a problem, my cd-rom is broken. can i install ubuntu if will save it through my hardisk? and run it install13:46
Slaveryyy?13:46
icerootGnea: ok  bad example   12abcdfheuisnd75   = 12*7513:46
AnirbanHazraIs there any official Twitter channel for Ubuntu ?13:46
JacobTand if i use the update manager or add remove software it locks up an stays grey13:46
meowmintxubottu: told me my poste about a 5sec boot ubuntu was oftopic darn bot13:46
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:46
Gneaiceroot: not sure, try #regex?13:47
rezdAnirbanHazra: not exactly what you asked, but there is Facebook group.13:47
Slaveryyyhello gud evning, i have a problem, my cd-rom is broken. can i install ubuntu if will save it through my hardisk? and run it install13:47
rainiepigding don't connect to yahoo? Can you help me?13:47
Slaveryyyhey anybody can help me?13:48
IdleOnemeowmintx: it's about linuxmint not ubuntu. that os offtopic13:48
Gnearainie: use the correct username/password13:48
IdleOneis*13:48
rezdrainie: best try the channel, #pidgin13:48
Slaveryyy?13:48
GneaSlaveryyy: what is 'gud'?13:48
Slaveryyyhello good evning, i have a problem, my cd-rom is broken. can i install ubuntu if will save it through my hardisk? and run it install13:49
Gnea!usb | Slaveryyy13:49
ubottuSlaveryyy: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent13:49
tootHi. I think I have an IRQ conflict. Here is my output of /proc/interrupts http://paste.ubuntu.com/297449/ please have a look and verify with me. I think it may explain why I am having video-related system freezes, it looks like i have a conflict between nvidia and ehci_hcd:usb113:49
TheexpertsHi, every one i am using VMware  in xp i installed ubuntu 9.04 in vmware. how can i transfer files xp to ubuntu 9.04 ?13:49
nic1http://paste.ubuntu.com/297451/13:49
rainiecan't connect to yahoo! id and pass ..ok!13:49
Gneatoot: try booting with this option:  pci=routeirq13:49
rainiesolias?13:50
nic1Gnea, i pastedbin the script, can you please check if you can see any mistakes in the script?13:50
meowmintxwell read the poste its not about linuxmint. just cause its hpsted on that site from a lontime user shesh.13:50
jribmeowmintx: are you answering or asking a support question?13:50
tootGnea, how do I go about doing that13:50
meowmintxIdleOne: have you actually read the post yourself13:50
Gneanic1: okay - you need to make a copy of the skeleton file and edit THAT so that it will launch slim13:51
tootGnea, and to finish the thought, how would i set it permanently13:51
Slaveryyyubottu: can i use a ipod?13:51
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:51
meowmintxjrib: giving you info on how to get a ubuntu with 5sec boot for 100mb ram if you dont want to knpoe suit your self13:51
Gneatoot: it's part of the kernel line, you can find it in the grub configuration file13:51
ieiHello, in "Keyboard Preferences" Layout Options I have selected "Right Win key switches layout while pressed" but it does not seem to change to the second language I added.. Is there something I'm missing?13:51
TheexpertsSorry for asking again..  i am using VMware  in xp i installed ubuntu 9.04 in vmware. how can i transfer files xp to ubuntu 9.04 ?13:52
IdleOnemeowmintx: ok it's about ubuntu. still offtopic. this channel is for support13:52
industoot: you add it to grub menu list13:52
nic1oh13:52
Slaveryyyubottu: can i use a ipod?13:52
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:52
denndaHow do you start a graphical app over ssh again, so that it pops up on the remote machine?13:52
industhough iam not sure what it will do13:52
indusSlaveryyy: what is the question13:52
Slaveryyyhello good evning, i have a problem, my cd-rom is broken. can i install ubuntu if will save it through my hardisk? and run it install13:52
meowmintxand ppl here would not like that sort of info13:52
indusSlaveryyy: ubott is a robot13:52
jribmeowmintx: I appreciate the info but that's not really helpful in this channel unless someone specifically asks about it.  A better approach would be to create a nice wiki page with the directions made specific to Ubuntu and then create a thread on the ubuntu forums about it so anyone interested can try it out13:52
prince_jammysdennda: look into the -X and -Y options.13:52
TheexpertsHi, every one i am using VMware  in xp i installed ubuntu 9.04 in vmware. how can i transfer files xp to ubuntu 9.04 ?13:53
Gneameowmintx: we do support here, not random info. if you want to publish it, go write a webpage or a blog.13:53
ActiemanHey guys, anyone know a GOOD site/forum for good GlobalMenu instructions ??13:53
ieiHello, in "Keyboard Preferences" Layout Options I have selected "Right Win key switches layout while pressed" but it does not seem to change to the second language I added.. Is there something I'm missing?13:53
denndaprince_jammys: you misunderstood. I do not want to forward x, but remotely start a graphical app over ssh that pops up on the machine that runs the ssh server13:54
denndai think it was something like DISPLAY::=1 or so13:54
indusSlaveryyy: no it wont work13:54
indusSlaveryyy: you can boot from usb drive13:54
n2diyiei: did you set up a keyboard switcher command?13:54
rainieplease help me!13:54
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iein2diy hmm, I dont know what do you mean by that13:55
indusSlaveryyy: understand?13:55
indusrainie: yes13:55
nic1Gnea, from the script i pasted bin, can you please tell me what are the options args? i am completely blank about scripting13:55
Gnearainie: #pidgin can help you, we don't provide specialized pidgin support13:55
iein2diy I just added a language in Selected Layouts13:55
indusrainie: what is the problem?13:55
rainiepigding don't connect to yahoo? i need to do?13:56
Gneanic1: which is why you need to make a copy of the skeleton file and edit it - it's heavily commented, so it's not rocket-science to figure out13:56
iein2diy so now I got 2 and I want a key to switch between them13:56
indusrainie: which version of ubuntu are you using?13:56
rainieyes! 9.0413:56
prince_jammysdennda: ah, sorry. i presume something like 'DISPLAY=foo appname', but don't quote me.13:56
indusrainie: have you updated your system13:56
nic1i have copied and i am trying to edit13:56
rainieyes13:56
TheexpertsSorry for asking again..  i am using VMware  in xp i installed ubuntu 9.04 in vmware. how can i transfer files xp to ubuntu 9.04 ?13:56
Gneanic1: it's a large file, you'll have to experiment before it will work right13:57
indusrainie: in yahoo settings enter username befoere the @ , dont enter full username xyz@yahoo.com only enter xyz13:57
n2diyiei: ok, go back to the keyboard setup, and look around for a "switch" usallly ctrl-alt-something, you can also install a switcher icon on your talk bar.13:57
nic1Gnea, it tells startup links for file already exist, what do i need to do?13:57
rainieyes. i'm try..... wait for me!please..!13:58
VertelTheexperts: Can't be sure, having not used VMWare, but the general solution for that problem is to give the virtual machine access to the main machine by network, and establish a shared directory on either machine you can copy files to.13:58
n2diy*talk/task13:58
BoxMagnetTheexperts, you can install ubuntu after windows an dual boot13:58
iein2diy I just realised something, ALT seems to work(switching between languages) but the Right "and" Left Win keys do not seem to work? why is that13:58
iceroothow to match with regex  backup_foo_bar but not backup_foo? so there must be 2 _13:58
sblunixWelcome to #ubuntu , how may I take your order?13:59
BoxMagnetsblunix, ill have a cheesesteak, no tomato sauce.13:59
VertelI'm looking at backup tools/options for Ubuntu. Unfortunately, I'm suffering from the tyranny of choice; anyone got specific recommendations?13:59
n2diyiei: not sure, but the switch commands are very specific, right-alt, left alt, etc...13:59
jribVertel: rsnapshot14:00
Take0nguys I have a problem.. I am connected to a ubuntu pc at home throu SSH and I want to download something on that pc but I can't I am trying with wget something (which works for me in this pc) but on the other pc through SSH it says:14:00
jribiei: fwiw left and right shift keys is what I use that works for me14:00
iein2diy ok I got it now, I selected the wrong thing I guess.. Win key switched between layout does not work dunno whats that for, but Win key changes layout works14:00
indusrainie: hello ? success?14:01
Take0nConnecting to IP:PORT... failed: No route to host.14:01
sblunixVertel: may I recommend simple back up suite?14:01
sblunixVertel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem14:01
rainieyes! i done.. don't connect..! huhuhu.... botay!14:01
sblunix!BackupYourSystem14:01
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:01
VertelHrn. Could have sworn I searched the wiki for a backup page...14:02
rainieno!14:02
agussmanThis seems really obvious, but I can't find the correct option in the manpage.  rsync fails when I attempt to copy /path/to/file to a target machine if the subdir 'to' is missing.  If I manually create the 'to' dir on the target machine, rsync works.  How do I tell rsync to create the entire dir tree?14:03
Gneanic1: it's pointing to the initscript, so just replace it14:04
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Vertelsblunix: That looks to be exactly what I'm after. Thanks!14:04
BoxMagnetrsnapshot looks interesting, not sure how to initiate a backup of a remote file system over ssh though14:04
lazahi guys14:04
Take0nanyone?14:04
sblunixVertel: No problem :) It's what I use14:04
sblunixTake0n: what was your question?14:05
lazaplease help me, my X is broken, and i have to go online under console, with wifi please help me14:05
VertelLooks like the only thing it'll miss is installed packages, and I can always re-add those as I find them missing.14:05
sblunixVertel: actually14:05
sblunixhold on one second14:05
Take0nI am to a pc at home through ssh and I am trying to download something on that pc using "wget http://83.233.243.66/favicon.ico" just to test if it works but it doesn't.14:06
sblunixVertel: http://blog.hanno-stock.de/archives/5014:06
Take0n--16:04:31--  http://83.233.243.66/favicon.ico => `favicon.ico'14:06
Take0nConnecting to 83.233.243.66:80... failed: No route to host.14:06
Take0nthis ip is my apache :P14:06
BoxMagnetTake0n, thats no the absoloute path to the file is it ?14:06
BilgeIf I make a user who is just used to download backup files from a restricted shell, should I add it as a system user (UID < 1000) or a normal user?14:06
BoxMagnetTake0n, ssh is port 22 by default.14:06
Take0nit is14:06
BoxMagnetoh ur not using ssh14:07
BoxMagnetcan you ping that pc?14:07
Spirits-Sightanyone know how to get mythzmserver to work with latest zoneminder?14:07
Take0nguys14:07
Take0nthe IP above is the IP I try to download the file from14:07
Vertelsblunix: Hrm. That could work. I just have to run it as a scheduled task every week or so.14:07
lazaplease help me, my X is broken, and i have to go online under console, with wifi14:07
sblunixVertel: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/schedule-tasks-using-gnome-schedule-a-cron-at-gui-in-ubuntu.html ;)14:08
BoxMagnetsblunix, is there a GUI backup program14:08
Coeus82hey guys, I'm in buenos aires at the moment and two days ago they moved the hour ahead by 1 (GMT-2), however ubuntu keeps automatically changing the time to what it was before (GMT-3)14:08
VertelYou're just a delightfully useful geek, aren't you? :P14:08
Take0nBoxMagnet, I can ping it14:08
sblunixBoxMagnet: It's called Simple Backup Sweet14:08
grawityTake0n: Read the error message - "no route to host"14:08
Dr_Willis!fixres14:08
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution14:08
erUSULCoeus82: there was an update of tzdata and tzdata-java two days ago14:08
meowmintxi like ubuntu its stable and userfriendly14:08
sblunixBoxMagnet http://help.ubuntu.com/BackUpYourSystem14:08
Take0nI don't know what it means.. that's why I am sking here..14:08
erUSULCoeus82: that should have fixed it14:09
VertelSeems strange that there's no default/preferred backup system in Ubuntu, but oh well. Problem solved, one way or another.14:09
BoxMagnetsblunix, in apt, i find simplebackup14:09
grawityTake0n: Also, if you can ping it, it does not mean you can access what is hosted on port 80 - it may be forwarded to a different server, and it's the router that you ping and that returns the error.14:09
BoxMagnetbut its not a gui?14:09
erUSULCoeus82: are you up to date ?14:09
sblunixBoxMagnet: https://help.ubuntu.com/BackUpYourSystem14:09
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Dr_WillisVertel:  everyones needs are different. :)14:09
sblunixBoxMagnet: Yes, it's a GUI14:09
BoxMagnetsblunix, hm, oh, its sbackup i had installed simplebackup14:09
Coeus82erUSUL, hmm.. doesn't seem to be  the case. Yes, I just upgraded. I am on Karmic btw and I just did an upgrade today14:09
BoxMagnetlol.14:09
VertelDr_Willis: Granted, but it's still an odd gap. It wouldn't be particularly hard to adopt a general purpose backup utility, without getting in the way of people installing more complex backup software.14:10
Take0nso wait.. I am connected to the pc right now.. how should I test if it actually downloads or not? I am connected to the default 22 port14:10
sblunix!9.10 | Coeus8214:10
ubottuCoeus82: Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 29th, 2009 - Karmic is BETA and MAY break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+114:10
erUSULCoeus82: ? ask in #ubuntu+1 ?14:10
Coeus82ahh14:10
BoxMagnetsblunix, sbackup does not run the program though?14:10
Coeus82ok thanks14:10
ltcabraldoes anyone know if utf8 support chinese characters?14:10
grawityltcabral: It does.14:10
ltcabralgrawity: thanks14:10
grawityltcabral: UTF8 is just a representation of Unicode; and Unicode does support more than you can imagine.14:11
erUSULCoeus82: look No es un Bug Como ya te dije en IRC14:11
VertelHuh. Simple Backup Suite doesn't preserve permissions/ownership? Strange.14:11
erUSULCoeus82: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/45316514:11
VertelOh well. Not a deal-breaker.14:11
sblunixVertel: it should :\14:11
kostas_thess1Take0n:)14:11
Take0n:)14:11
erUSULCoeus82: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/t/tzdata/tzdata_2009n-0ubuntu0.9.04.1/changelog14:11
Vertelsblunix: There's a note at the bottom of the Restore section.14:11
Vertel"Note: By default, restored files and directories are owned by root. This is because sbackup runs with root privileges."14:12
Coeus82@erUSUL: so I guess it's probably just an issue with Karmic at the moment14:12
sblunixVertel: Oh well, all I do is enter my password when it prompts me14:12
sblunixVertel: I thought i had found some workaround but I'm not sure14:12
Coeus82err.. but the link you sent me says the bug is fixed, weird14:12
VertelLike I said, not a deal breaker. I can easily re-permission my home folder.14:13
erUSULCoeus82: dunno; according to bug report seems to be fixed in al versions of ubuntu14:13
BoxMagnetVertel, If I use / for backup it will get everything yes14:14
BoxMagnetwill i then be able to copy to a new hd?14:14
sblunixVertel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync#grsync14:14
erUSULCoeus82: Karmic fixed by syncing 2009n-2 from Debian sid: <<<< this is on the comments14:14
BoxMagneterr14:14
sblunixVertel: It says theirs an option to preserve ownership :\14:14
BoxMagnetmeant to ask sblunix14:14
VertelBoxMagnet: Not sure on that count. On a standard Linux system I'd say yes, but I'm not sure on Ubuntu; there's a lot of files that only exist when the system is actually running, and I'm not sure what backing them up/restoring them would do.14:15
AviramHey guys, I wonder how I can do some effects using compiz, I've seen this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ14:15
sblunixBoxMagnet: Yes, but I don't think that's particularly necessary, doing ~/ should be fine, just backup your home folder14:15
BoxMagnetVertel, ok, im getting a new HD soon whats my best option14:15
AviramThe effect when window is minimized/closed14:15
Take0nsorry if I am a pain in the a*s but I don't understand.. the IP and port 80 was just a site I tried to download something from just to test.. It could be microsoft.com or whatsoever.. the problem is that I am not able to download anything from anywhere and I can't understand why.. :\ could someone explain to me or just point me to the right direction pls?14:15
AviramThe other effects aswell14:15
ahmedgoganany one here to help me14:16
sblunix!compiz | aviram14:17
ubottuaviram: Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz14:17
indusahmedgogan: question14:17
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sblunixahmedgogan: what is your question?14:17
Vertelsblunix: Thanks for your help. This should work out good.14:17
ahmedgogani have downloaded the latest version of ubuntu14:17
sblunixVertel: Glad I could be of assistance :) if you need anything else, my contact info is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/sblunix14:18
ahmedgoganand written on cd via infrarecorder as stated on ur website14:18
ahmedgoganbut the disc has go some error14:18
Coeus82thanks for your help erUSUL.. I'm issuing another update / upgrade command and will see if the issue is fixed on my end14:18
ubuntistaswhich is the fastest kde ? from linux mint or kubuntu?14:18
Mike_lifeguardHow can I remove a user from a (secondary) group and then get rid of the group?14:18
erUSULCoeus82: no problem14:18
ahmedgogansblunix ??14:18
indusahmedgogan:you should burn at a slower speed like 8 x14:18
sblunixubuntistas: Same speed, as always, I reccomend kubuntu14:18
erUSULMike_lifeguard: System>Admin>User and groups14:19
Mike_lifeguarderUSUL: CLI please :)14:19
indusubuntistas: i recommend suse14:19
sblunixahmedgogan: You should re-download and re-burn everything to confirm there wasn't an error in downloading or burning14:19
Coeus82indus: why?14:19
Mike_lifeguardIt is amazing how quickly I became comfortable with the CLI. I thought it'd take forever :)14:19
sblunix!kubuntu | ubuntistas14:19
ubottuubuntistas: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE14:19
indusCoeus82: kde nicer there14:19
erUSULMike_lifeguard: man deluser14:20
roshanhello everyone, I'm trying to use the Karmic Beta LiveCD but X11 refuses to start. Is it possible for me to somehow install from the command line?14:20
Mike_lifeguardright14:20
Coeus82indus: Oh, I use gnome14:20
Mike_lifeguarderUSUL: thansk14:20
Mike_lifeguard+spelling :)14:20
sblunix!karmic | roshan14:20
ubotturoshan: Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 29th, 2009 - Karmic is BETA and MAY break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+114:20
MenZaroshan: Try #ubuntu+1 - and no, you need the alternate CD for that.14:20
erUSULMike_lifeguard: deluser USER GROUP && delgroup GROUP14:20
roshanGotcha, thank you.14:20
MenZaroshan: Welcome.14:20
BoxMagnetsblunix, so that program does not keep permissions?14:20
ahmedgoganis there any one to help me ???14:20
sblunixBoxMagnet: yes it does keep permissions14:20
Mike_lifeguard!ask | ahmedgogan14:21
ubottuahmedgogan: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)14:21
sblunixyou can see the options here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync#grsync14:21
indusahmedgogan: at least 2 people gave you replies ,so why are you repeating14:21
indus!volunteers14:21
Alex3nderhi, i have a piece of PCI TV Tuner compatible with ivtv, but its not recognised as of now... i have a fresh install of ubuntu 9.10... can someone guide me as to how to install ivtv drivers and get my card recognised properly... also where can i find a guide to set this up.. and running...14:21
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about volunteers14:21
MenZaindus: !attitude, perhaps.14:21
indusAlex3nder: which tv  tuner is this? i mean brand name, also can u paste output of lspci14:22
sblunix!voulunteers14:22
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about voulunteers14:22
sblunix!attitude14:22
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines14:22
sblunixah, nice MenZa14:22
Alex3nderindus from lspci i get this info: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)14:22
MenZa!msgthebot > sblunix14:22
ubottusblunix, please see my private message14:22
indusAlex3nder: hmm connexant chip , did you try using tvtime14:23
BoxMagnetsblunix, it said the backup was started, but i see no files being made in the remote directory over ssh14:23
Alex3nderindus, but at the boot time i  get errors saying unrecognised ivtv device14:23
BoxMagnetsblunix, it did say the connection worked thouh14:23
indusAlex3nder: hmm14:23
indus!ivtv14:23
ubottuIVTV can be installed on Edgy by following the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_IVTV_Edgy14:23
indusomg old info14:23
MenZawow, that is old14:23
Alex3nderindus, i tried tvtime... but not working... also i read somewhere that tvtime doesnt support ivtv very well14:23
indusAlex3nder: yeah, iam trying to find out what ivtv is, i have a pinnac;le  tuner ,so its different i think14:24
Alex3nderindus, what is the way to get this device recognised first and get rid of the boot time error messeges14:24
kostas_thess1anyone knwos why my ubuntu says no route to host at wget,apt-get but i am connected to this over internet?14:24
indusAlex3nder: device is recognised as u saw in lspci , can i se edmesg output14:24
Alex3ndershould i install some drivers... modules etc? if so how? im a real noob when it comes to this... so please help me out14:24
yadudocmaggi_,14:25
ActionParsnipkostas_thess1: can you nslookup the ip or name14:25
yadudocmaggi_, hey14:25
indusAlex3nder: have you installed ivtv drivers?14:25
ActionParsnipkostas_thess1: can you traceroute the name / ip14:25
maggi_hey...14:25
kostas_thess1no ActionParsnip14:25
Alex3nderindus, i dunno how to14:25
maggi_yadudoc,hey...got it....14:25
kubanccan somebody helps me. when i log on to gnome i have a blank white screen14:25
indusAlex3nder: its in synaptic , install it14:25
thijs_what would be the best log file to tail for total system freezes?14:25
MenZamaggi_: hello.14:25
kostas_thess1;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached14:26
kostas_thess1that says ActionParsnip14:26
Dr_Williskubanc:  as a test - make a new user via the console - see if gnome works for new user. If it does. Then you got some gnome settings causing issues for the non-working user.14:26
albasheers1I am using ubuntu intrepid  and have inserted edubuntu 9.04  ,it autoplayed then add/remove application opened after that I removed edubuntu cd ,but  now I am getting this " not all updates  can be installed " , can anybody tell me how can I fix this ,I don't want to upgrade to ubuntu jaunty14:26
erUSULthijs_: messages or kernel.log ? better yet use multitail and watch messages kernel.log and syslog14:26
llutzthijs_: /var/Log/messages or syslog, if ever14:26
ActionParsnipkostas_thess1: if you run: route | grep default      do you get an output?14:26
thijs_thanks erUSUL and llutz14:26
bazhangalbasheers1, did you add the jaunty repos?14:26
albasheers1no14:27
kostas_thess1xmmm it says 0.0.0.014:27
bazhangalbasheers1, adding the package edubuntu-desktop from within intrepid will give it to you14:27
Coeus82When did Canonical say they were going to put synaptic pm, upgrade manager, and add/remove software all in one again? Was there a release schedule for that?14:27
kostas_thess1can i make it paste here?14:27
indusAlex3nder: but i dont think ivtv is needed separately as its inbuilt in kernel14:27
albasheers1yes14:27
kostas_thess1default dsldevice.lan 0.0.0.0 UG 100 0 0 eth014:27
Alex3nderindus, here is the demesg http://pastebin.com/m67c7140e14:27
* NetM slaps kostas_thess1 around a bit with a large trout14:28
ActionParsnipkostas_thess1: are you connected to a router?14:28
kostas_thess1:>14:28
Alex3nderindus, thats what i also read and figured out... but how to get this thingy recognised14:28
kostas_thess1ActionParsnip yes14:28
ActionParsnipkostas_thess1: http://pastebin.com/f1472bc49   something like that?14:29
albasheers1bazhang: when ya try to update it is saying me that "not all updates can be installed14:29
kostas_thess1wait to make it paste to see it14:29
indusAlex3nder: hmm if u see dmesg, i guess you should mail them this14:29
indusAlex3nder: whaht manufacturer is this?14:30
Alex3nderindus, why anything strange?14:30
kostas_thess1here is ActionParsnip http://pastebin.com/m328f114c14:30
Alex3nderindus, its Avermedia AverTV 11614:30
indusAlex3nder: ya cheap ones have trouble being recongnises14:30
indusAlex3nder: aah avermedia then ok14:30
Alex3nderis that cheap? :D14:30
Alex3nder:S14:30
indusAlex3nder: lool no i guesxs not14:31
albasheers1I am using ubuntu intrepid  and have inserted edubuntu 9.04  ,it autoplayed then add/remove application opened after that I removed edubuntu cd ,but  now I am getting this " not all updates  can be installed " , can anybody tell me how can I fix this ,I don't want to upgrade to ubuntu jaunty14:31
BoxMagnetstarted a remote backup with SimpleBackupSuite but dont see the folder being created on the remote machine14:31
BoxMagnet??14:31
Alex3nderi bought pinnacle first... but it never worked on linux... then i bought avermedia14:31
indusAlex3nder: i had a frontech model which i had to replace with pinnacle14:31
indusAlex3nder: pinnacel works good the analog one14:31
indusAlex3nder: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/ivtv/devel/4035814:32
Alex3nderindus, for my bad luck i spend 100$ on pinnacle and it never worked :S14:32
bazhangalbasheers1, what happens when you sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop (errors at paste.ubuntu.com)14:32
Alex3ndernot even on windows14:32
Alex3nderhehe14:32
pcassiano_hello everybody14:32
indusAlex3nder: which pinnavle card? HD and all that?14:32
kostas_thess1ti ActionParsnip any news?14:32
Alex3nderyeah HD Pro Stick or some thing like that...14:32
ActionParsnipkostas_thess1: you are missing the link-local that i have bu i am not sure if thats essential14:32
indusAlex3nder: ya i  have pinnacle pctv 50 i which stopped selling in usa in 2005, but i got it brand new in india :)14:33
Alex3nderanyways... indus is there anyway to get this card working...14:33
indusAlex3nder:yes u see link i sent http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/ivtv/devel/4035814:33
Aviramfor some reason, my sound stopped working14:33
Alex3nderare my dmesg and lspci replies fine???14:33
AviramAnyone got a clue?14:33
solidintroirc.lightning.net14:33
kostas_thess1xmmm i dont think that the problem ActionParsnip14:33
MenZasolidintro: Please don't advertise other services here.14:33
pcassiano_...14:34
kostas_thess1becouse at another pc i have has the same problem...14:34
solidintrooops sorry14:34
kostas_thess1i dont have the same problem*14:34
kubancDr_Willis: I created a new user, and my gnome came up, what shuld i do for the non working user, so he could be able to see his gnome ?14:34
kostas_thess1Alex3nder can you help me if you know?14:34
Alex3nderindus, in that link he mentions a patch of some sort... could you kinda explain to me in simple terminology...14:34
indusAlex3nder: i think they have linux derivers on site too14:34
kostas_thess1thanks ActionParsnip14:34
rezdGoing from lenny to Ubuntu 9.04 moved the working socket of my sound from the back to the front. :-(14:35
kostas_thess1:>14:35
Alex3nderkostas_thess1, im struggling here to get help... :D14:35
erUSULkubanc: maybe there is something in ~/.xsession-errors ?14:35
indusAlex3nder: which version of ubuntu14:35
Alex3nderindus, 9.1014:35
indusAlex3nder: huhuhu karmic :)14:36
Alex3nderits lovely14:36
indusAlex3nder: its beta14:36
indusAlex3nder: file  a bug immediate14:36
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kostas_thess1anyone knows how to fix the error no route to host??14:36
indusAlex3nder: ubuntu-bug -p linux14:36
Alex3nderok! will do...14:36
kubancerUSUL: where can in se xsession-erros ?14:36
indusAlex3nder: mention card name also14:36
PiciAlex3nder: Also Karmic support is in #ubuntu+1 , its offtopic for #ubuntu until release day.14:37
Alex3nderindus, about that link you gave me...14:37
erUSULkubanc: in your hamoe dir. ~ == $HOME == /home/yourusername14:37
ActionParsnipkostas_thess1: does the host you are seeking have an IP on the same subnet as you are on?14:37
indusAlex3nder: but wait, they have official linux drivers try those14:37
Alex3ndercan you explain to me how to apply that patch14:37
kostas_thess1yes ActionParsnip14:37
indusAlex3nder: dont worry be happy  tell me name of card again14:38
djtigerwolfteamspeek has basic sound but no audio to and from me and alas is installed14:38
kostas_thess1the only ( I think does not is the problem ) i have port forward ALL the ports from 1 to 65535 to the local machine that is get the error no route to host14:38
meowmintxwhats the wine app terminal command14:38
indusAlex3nder: forget the patch its wrong one14:38
grawitymeowmintx: 'wine'14:38
Alex3nderindus, Avermedia AverTV 11614:38
meowmintxno its not14:38
ActionParsnipkostas_thess1: so the host you seek is on your own lan?14:38
kostas_thess1no14:38
indusAlex3nder: hybrid dvb etc?14:38
kostas_thess1i work it via internet14:38
NetMi m zwo14:39
NetMoxi i work14:39
albasheers1bazhang: I don't want to install anything form edubuntu , I just inserted the edubuntu cd and when into add/remove application then removed that cd , but after removing that cd ,I saw few updates available when I tried to update it is saying "not all updates can be installed14:39
NetM;p14:39
pcassiano_hh14:39
PruneI'd like to install Pico, but its not in my Adaptic Manager and not sure how to download or install14:39
kubancarUSUL: here is my error http://paste.ubuntu.com/29750414:39
albasheers1bazhang:here is the screen short http://imagebin.org/6853514:39
PiciPrune: pico pretty much doesnt exist anymore, use nano instead.14:39
pcassianod14:39
indusAlex3nder: is this a new card?14:40
PiciPrune: In fact, pico is a symlink to nano with nano installed.14:40
pcassianoAnybody from Brazil here?14:40
ElixirI have problem with python and yesterday it makes the system crashed and not work till I reinstall python and gnome .. I want to know how can I find the source of this problem14:40
Pruneproblem with nano, nano is on the adaptic manager, I both uninstalled and installed it, no start.   don't know what problem is either.14:40
Pici!br | pcassiano14:40
ubottupcassiano: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.14:40
GneaPrune: what is the 'adaptic manager'?14:40
Alex3nderindus, no i guess its an older card... its analogue only14:40
PruneI want so bad to run nano, but can't get started.  downloaded a new nano it won't run either14:40
IdleOneGnea: I think he means Adept? maybe14:40
Alex3nderwith support for S-Video and Composite14:41
kostas_thess1any info ActionParsnip14:41
Prunesynaptic program manager - sorry - not adaptic as I said wrong14:41
GneaIdleOne: he should be precise.14:41
cghello. how can i  know what softwares i have installed ? like 'rpm -qa' in redhat14:41
erUSULcg: dpkg -l14:41
albasheers1bazhang:here is the screen short http://imagebin.org/6853514:41
Alex3nderindus... i thought an older card would be better supported and so i bought this one14:41
GneaPrune: once nano is installed, you just open a terminal and type: nano14:41
Prunecg go to System....Synaptic Program Manager14:41
pcassianoI'm not looking for portuguese help, I only ask for some brazilian here ;)14:41
indusAlex3nder: http://www.avermedia.com/AVerTV/Press/NewsDetail.aspx?Id=27114:41
Prunethanks Gnea will try immediately14:41
indusAlex3nder: have to search and see, there are ubunt udrivers also14:42
PiciPrune: nano should be installed by default. sudo apt-get install nano should reinstall it if you've removed it.14:42
erUSULcg: dpkg -l | grep '^i'14:42
Gneapcassiano: please read what ubottu told you.14:42
cgPrune: erUSUL ok. thank you14:42
Alex3nderindus, there is no mention of my card in that page...14:42
thijs_ok, so now my laptop froze up during an installation.14:43
indusAlex3nder: so i guess file a bug then, but also search the ivtv sites14:43
thijs_I multitailed the logs, but nothing strange appeared14:43
cgthe new version grep has the key words high light, i like it !14:43
thijs_would anyone like to help me with this ?14:43
nimrodWhat are the effects of crunchbang linux on hardy.14:44
Gneanimrod: we don't support crunchbag here.14:44
bazhangnimrod, please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic14:44
Alex3nderindus, sorry my pc suddenly logged me out! :D14:44
nimrodthanx!sorry guys did not know that.14:44
nimrodmy bad.14:45
PruneGoing to Applications...Accessories...Terminal, I typed "nano" and immediately a little GNU nano 2.0.9 started.  It offered some command briefs at the bottom.   I typed a little text and tried to save it, no File...Save or ...Save As commands available.  Can it start in a different interface?14:45
Alex3nderweird shit happens in beta i guess!!! :)14:45
nimrodi am a newbie.14:45
indusAlex3nder: search ivtv forums for more info14:45
ActionParsnipkostas_thess1: if the host you are connecting to is on your lan then you may need to add a name resolution in /etc/hosts. If the system is not on your network but has the same address scheme as your lan (VPN is a good example here) then you will have to change the network address of your lan so that their are 2 seperate networks14:45
erUSULPrune: crtl + O is save14:45
Alex3nderindus ok that might be a good start...14:45
Alex3nderthanks a lot indus14:45
erUSULPrune: it is in the "command briefs at the bottom"14:45
GneaPrune: nano is like pico, it's a commandline-based program. as such, it does not use a gui. ^ is the same as 'ctrl'14:45
Alex3nderi'll get back to you in a while... i'll do some digging... now...14:45
erUSULPrune: it will ask for filename14:45
nimrodmovie player frezees my laptop.i have to reboot.14:46
FiloSottilehi. a wine program launchs a videogame and returns, how to wait for game to close?14:46
indusAlex3nder: ok good luck but remember, its karmic so file a bug, some bits of the kernel might be problematic so file immediate14:46
FiloSottileit is a subprocess14:46
kostas_thess1is at the same pc14:46
cghello. any way to know something of an package i haven't installed ? like libc6-pic, what's that ?14:46
FiloSottileusing bash14:46
kostas_thess1so ActionParsnip what to add14:46
Alex3nderindus, where to file the bugs for karmic?14:47
mkcottleHello.14:47
kubancerUSUL, here is my error http://paste.ubuntu.com/29750414:47
Aviramhmm14:47
MenZa!lp | Alex3nder14:47
ubottuAlex3nder: Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/14:47
FiloSottilehi. a wine program launchs a videogame and returns, how to wait for game to close in bash?14:47
AviramSince yesterday, when I updated my ubuntu the sound has stopped working14:47
AviramAnyone has an idea14:48
Aviram?14:48
MenZaAviram: Boot an older kernel and try that.14:48
indusAlex3nder: just type ubuntu-bug -p linux in a terminal and wait and watch :)14:48
ab2qikHi Using jaunty, im trying to upgrade firefox 3.0 to 3.5. Firefox 3.0 is current running. Using add/remove tried to remove f.f.3.0 before installing 3.5 but said to use synaptic due dependencies. In synaptic, many entries exist for firefox. Do i need to uninstall all?14:48
Alex3nderMenZa, you are a really lively person aren't you? :) thanks14:48
AviramMenZa How do I do that?14:48
MenZaAlex3nder: Rather, but indus' solution is better ;)14:48
MenZaAviram: In your GRUB menu (the menu you see when you start up), you should have several kernels with the newest at the top. Try the second-newest one, i.e. the third in the list.14:49
erUSULkubanc: sorry i do not see anything critical there all look like no serious errors14:49
FiloSottilehi. a wine program launchs a videogame and returns, how to wait for game to close in bash? it is a subprocess of the launcher?14:49
thijs_ok, so now my laptop froze up during an installation of netbeans, no suspicious things appeared in logs, and this happens randomly. Would anyone be able to help me a little bit?14:49
antoine_what is wrong with the repos?14:49
mkcottle<--- new to Ubuntu. Installed on Laptop (HP dv5000) with a 'button' wireless on/off, and not a switch.  Any ideas on how to digitally turn the wireless controller on?14:49
nic1i ran diff file1 file2, i am getting error14:49
Avirammkcottle14:50
AviramPM14:50
Picinic1: What error?14:50
PruneI guess I'm going to have to live with gedit, which does work, and can save a file up to a server, which is what I want.  I was able to specify a filename for what I had just typed in nano, so I did get the file saved.  But then there were no options in pico for where to save the file, which defeated my purpose of saving it up to a server. Thank you.14:50
MenZa!pm | Aviram14:50
ubottuAviram: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.14:50
AviramMenZa, I sent him a solution14:50
Aviram:C14:50
MenZaAviram: Give him a solution here instead.14:50
MenZaSo we can all contribute from it.14:51
nic1Pici, file2 is an extra operand it says14:51
AviramOkay then, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=123620814:51
AviramIt has solutions for all HP Pavilion problems, solved mine atleast14:51
Picinic1: does either filename have spaces in it?14:51
mkcottlechecking it out, thanks Aviram.14:51
M4K4V3l1_sorry but ubuntu sucks in server's job14:51
Prunewhose application is gedit?   It seems to be operating in my ubuntu as the default editor.   Which is good becaue it has what I want and has some plug-ins I just found that I didn't know that14:51
jribM4K4V3l1_: you don't have to use it, use whatever you want14:52
ActionParsnipkostas_thess1: i'd add the name resolution to /etc/hosts to see if that makes it better14:52
MenZamkcottle: Do you need help with something, or are you simply here to rant?14:52
MenZamkcottle*14:52
PiciMenZa: psst, wrong person14:52
MenZaSorry, mkcottle :)14:52
ab2qikany help with f.f. upgrade?14:52
MenZaMy tab-fu is not good today.14:52
M4K4V3l1_jrib: yes it's true.. ubuntu is so close to Windows problem.. because they thank about the easy with the price of perfomrnance14:53
MenZaM4K4V3l1_: See the above message from ubottu.14:53
bazhangM4K4V3l1_, please continue in #ubuntu-offtopic14:53
jribM4K4V3l1_: you're free to have that opinion.  But this channel is for support, so take your rant elsewhere14:53
M4K4V3l1_jrib: I made a lot of issue here.. but no response14:54
M4K4V3l1_so what can I do more ?14:54
jribM4K4V3l1_: you aren't asking a support question now.  Maybe try to ask one?14:54
MenZa!commercial | M4K4V3l1_14:54
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about commercial14:54
MenZaHumm.14:54
ooboontooHow do i tell what video card driver I am using14:54
ooboontooAnyone?14:55
indusMenZa: :D14:55
M4K4V3l1_MenZa: zhy looking for commercial ?? the replacement can be any other linux distro.. especially Debian14:55
ActionParsnipooboontoo: sudo lshw -C display14:55
M4K4V3l1_why *14:55
indusooboontoo: lshw -c nvm14:55
kostas_thess1ActionParsnip i have it there14:55
indusActionParsnip:beat me to it14:55
MenZaM4K4V3l1_: Commercial support from Canonical is what I was attempting to get information about from the bot.14:55
ActionParsnipkostas_thess1: ok now restart networking and see how you go14:55
M4K4V3l1_jrib: maybe you wasnt here.. but you will be my last chance14:56
kostas_thess1i have make it14:56
jribMenZa: !support gets you there after a while iirc14:56
kostas_thess1and reboot all the system14:56
indus!paid14:56
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about paid14:56
kostas_thess1but nothing14:56
MenZajrib: I'll keep that in mind :)14:56
indusMenZa: www.ubuntu.com/support14:56
MenZaThat too.14:56
blackxoredwhere I can find the definition of pgp key expiration and what's useful for and guidelines for choosing dates ???14:57
kostas_thess1indus do you know any kind of help how to fix the error "no route to host?"14:57
blackxoredkoshari, route -n ?? :P or the host isn't alive ;P14:57
induskostas_thess1: sorry i dont14:57
jribblackxored: try #gnupg14:57
blackxoredjrib, thanks14:57
M4K4V3l1_jrib: my last ubuntu issue is that I can't mount a remote directory with NFS.. details : http://pastebin.com/m559250214:58
induskostas_thess1: you are in safe hands with ActionParsnip14:58
jribM4K4V3l1_: ask the channel14:58
kostas_thess1thanks indus i knjow it ;)14:58
sdwrageHey all14:58
albasheersI am using ubuntu intrepid  and have inserted edubuntu 9.04  ,it autoplayed then add/remove application opened after that I removed edubuntu cd ,but  now I am getting this " not all updates  can be installed " , can anybody tell me how can I fix this ,I don't want to upgrade to ubuntu jaunty14:58
blackxoredkostas_thess1, is the host alive/?14:59
indussdwrage: hellooo14:59
sdwragewhere is the most common place to put downloads that you need to compile?14:59
kostas_thess1blackxored yes14:59
ActionParsnipindus: you wish ;)14:59
blackxoredkostas_thess1, so it's on the same subnet?14:59
Dr_Willissdwrage:   The source code can go wherver you want it to. organize it hopw you see fit.14:59
kostas_thess1i connect to the machine over the internet14:59
kostas_thess1via putty14:59
jribM4K4V3l1_: what you pastebinned doesn't show anything wrong14:59
sdwrageDr_Willis, k... thought there may be a standard :P14:59
kostas_thess1so its alive:p15:00
mkcottleAviram, tried the command line sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-jaunty as suggested... replies with E: Couldn't find package linux-backports-modules-jaunty .15:00
blackxoredkostas_thess1, that wasn't what I asked the host you're targetting in on the same subnet as you're?15:00
M4K4V3l1_it's simple and basic configuration15:00
M4K4V3l1_ok it's in public so everybody is concerned.. thx15:00
M4K4V3l1_by the why I am using intrepid too15:00
indusalbasheers: it wont update to 9.0415:00
M4K4V3l1_jrib: that's it.. so where is the problem.. this is the question15:00
Dr_Willissdwrage:  when compiling stuff from source theres no standard. :) just common practices.. you can oranize things how ever you want. Make a Projects dir.. make a dir called Source.. or Not...15:00
kostas_thess1when you say the same subnet you say the subnet at pc and subnet at this pc i am now?15:00
jribM4K4V3l1_: what *is* the problem?15:00
indusalbasheers: just do a sudo apt-get update and it should disappear15:00
albasheersindus : I tried it , but not working15:01
blackxoredkostas_thess1, I say something like you being 192.168.100.1 and your target 192.168.100.12915:01
indusalbasheers: not working means whattt15:01
AviramInternet is online? mkcottle?15:01
blackxoredkostas_thess1, if it not then you have to check your gateway with "route -n"15:01
mkcottleno - that's the problem.  wireless digital switch isn't on15:01
dratonewhat if you try apt-cache search linux-backports-modules-jaunty ?15:01
Aviramso connect it using a cable15:01
mkcottleI can try that dratone.15:01
jribM4K4V3l1_: maybe this helps you: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/network-file-system.html15:02
kostas_thess1blackxored http://pastebin.com/m3d1a8fe915:02
albasheersindus: I am getting  " not all updates are installed15:02
indusalbasheers: in terminal?15:02
albasheersindus :http://imagebin.org/6853515:02
n-iCehehe15:02
M4K4V3l1_jrib: ok when I made this command, I got this error message : root@far-laptop:~# mount 172.16.50.52:/home/amine /mnt/home15:02
M4K4V3l1_mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 172.16.50.52:/home/amin15:02
skuldHi!  I need some help with apache15:02
skuld...maybe15:02
thiebaudelinden940, did that work last night?15:02
ooboontooNo matter what version of ubuntu I install, I am unable to change the brightness of my LCD on a common laptop (HP dv1000). Normally the fix of echo -n 90 > /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness, does not work, and the file with the brightness file in the proc tree just says <not supported>15:02
linden940yea15:02
blackxoredkostas_thess1, so you have a default gateway try a traceroute to the host15:02
M4K4V3l1_jrib: ok thanks.. I will check it15:02
linden940i am trying 2 work with my panels now...try 2 get it the way i want them15:03
albasheersindus:http://imagebin.org/6853515:03
linden940ty 4 ur help tho man15:03
thiebaudelinden940, ahh, ok15:03
thiebaudelinden940, hey, np15:03
indusalbasheers: i cant open that link15:03
skuldI configued my apache server, it works and connects on my internal IP address (192.x.x.x) but when I try to connect to any of the sites or by using the public IP (216.x.x.x) I get "unable to connect"15:03
kostas_thess1blackxored if i make traceroute to the router 192.168.2.1 make it if i will do www.google.com it doesent ....15:03
indusalbasheers: ok saw it15:03
indusalbasheers: ok just cancel it, and try later15:03
blackxoredkostas_thess1, then it's a problem with the router15:03
indusalbasheers: this is an intrepid partial upgrade not 9.0415:04
indusalbasheers: why do you worry?15:04
albasheersindus : I tried that and I even restarted the system15:04
Dr_Willisskuld:  if you are connecting to the internet via a router. You will need tos set up proper port fowarding on the router.15:04
indusalbasheers: also go to system>administration>software sources and remove cd rom15:04
linden940thiebaude, do u know of a good dock?15:04
kostas_thess1blackxored is possible the problem to be becouse i have opened all ports from 1 to 65535 to the ip of the pc15:04
albasheersindus:ok15:04
kostas_thess1is that a problem?15:04
ooboontooAnyone a bug guru? Need help with lcd brightness change15:04
skuldI thought I did that.  is there a way to check...using the terminal commands (like iptables I think it is?)15:04
apparlehow to fix this http://paste.ubuntu.com/288786/ I am trying to compile this package http://downloads.sourceforge.net/ponyprog/Pony_Prog2000-2.07c.tar.gz15:04
thiebaudelinden940, awn15:05
thiebaude!awn15:05
ubottuAvant Window Navigator is a dock-like navigation bar for  the Linux desktop that positions itself at the bottom of the screen. Homepage http://wiki.awn-project.org/ - Awn-Manager can be found in Universe from Hardy (8.04) onwards.15:05
AviramI changed kernel15:05
AviramI finally see the ALSA device15:05
Avirambut it wont make a sound15:05
Aviram:C15:05
Dr_Willisskuld:  you may of done it wrong. You could check the various port scanning sites to see if any of them show the proper ports open.15:05
rsk/home/apparle/PonyProg2000-2.07c/v/includex/v/v_defs.h:104:27: error: X11/Intrinsic.h: No such file or directory15:05
Aviramand how do I make the old kernel the default one?15:05
skuldokay, let me try that15:05
rskyou are missing headers apparle15:05
AviramMenZa15:05
apparlersk: which package should I install15:05
rski don't know15:05
thijs_Can anyone help me with random freezes in ubuntu 8.1015:06
apparlersk: I can see its somehow related to X11 but which one15:06
rskapparle: probably multiple15:06
skuldisn't there a linux command that shows me the open, listening ports?15:06
apparlersk: maybe but which one :)15:06
thijs_skuld, netstat -tulpn ?15:06
Dr_WillisAviram:  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and set teh proper # in the 'default #' line. grub starts counting at 0 for that # first entry is 0, 2md is 1 and so on.15:07
linden940brb15:07
rskapparle: i don't know15:07
meaniefaceskuld: nmap will work too15:07
thiebaudebrb15:07
skuldI see 0.0.0.0:80 under the Listen address15:08
skuldshouldn't that be my public IP instead?15:08
adaptrthat's fine15:08
Piciskuld: 0.0.0.0 means to listen on all addresses.15:08
skuldok15:09
apparlehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/297528/ This error come after fresh install15:09
Dr_Willisskuld:  those commands are not showilg that the router is or is not properly set to forward however.15:09
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Darkomencan i install an beryl window manager in ubuntu,but the problem is i have a low class computer :(15:10
indusalbasheers: so does it work?15:10
[1]sassynhi15:11
Dr_WillisDarkomen:  you can install compiz, its installed by default..   Your definition of LOW class may differ from ours.. try it and see  if it works.. or state your specs.15:11
indusDarkomen: beryl is extinct , its compiz now15:11
indusDarkomen: ya enabled default on capable systems15:11
albasheersindus: I did that again it is showing me to do partial update15:12
skuldI went to a website with a port scanner, stated that port 80 is open15:12
indusalbasheers: ya thats fine, but avoid partial upgrades, wait a day15:12
ooboontooFour days and I still cant find a resolution to my LCD brightness issue. I have a 4 year old laptop, and no one else seems to have the same problem.15:12
skuldcan anybody get to the site.... http://localexpresscl.com15:12
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albasheersindus:ok15:13
indusalbasheers: its because not all packages have been built ,some probably held back15:13
Solar_FlaresIs this the ubuntu support channel?15:13
indusalbasheers: it wont upgrade you to 9.04 dont worry15:13
Darkomenwhat a are the specific requirment in compwiz?15:13
Dr_WillisSolar_Flares:  yes.15:13
albasheersindus: thanks15:13
blackxoredkostas_thess1, no, it's outgoing traffic which is being filtered, it's hard to tell without seeing your tables, but that may be the problem15:13
Dr_WillisSolar_Flares:  thats what the topic says. :)15:13
Darkomenwhat a are the specific requirment in compwiz?15:13
kostas_thess1i think blackxored you say iptables?15:13
Solar_FlaresUbuntu bricked my windows. Is there any chance, to get it back?15:13
meaniefaceooboontoo: what is the problem with the lcd?15:13
indusDarkomen: card should support 3d15:13
meaniefaceooboontoo: it's too dark?15:13
erUSUL!details | Solar_Flares15:14
ubottuSolar_Flares: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."15:14
ooboontoomeanieface I am unable to change the brightness with the FN keys, nor can i change it with the command line15:14
indusanyone here who can help me15:14
blackxoredkostas_thess1, your router's table15:14
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meaniefaceooboontoo: hold on15:14
ooboontoomeanieface the other FN keys work, but not brightnes up/down15:14
Solar_FlaresJaunty 9.04, on partition 4, windows ulcpc xp partition 315:14
indus!who15:14
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)15:14
Solar_Flaresgives me a bluescreen after the windows logo.15:14
StaRetjiHello :) Not sure is this the right place to ask, but how do I update mesa from x-updates15:14
erUSULSolar_Flares: what does that have to do with ubuntu ?15:15
meaniefaceooboontoo: are you using hardy?15:15
Solar_FlareserUSUL: It bricked it?15:15
kostas_thess1blackxored until yesterday it works fine the downloads , etc. after opened all ports from 1 to 65535 from router to machine the problem has started15:15
indusSolar_Flares: how do you know ubuntu bricked it15:15
ooboontoomeanieface: Tried Hardy, Jaunty, and even on to Karmic, same issue, every version15:15
DarkomenInno 3D RIVA TNT2 MODEL 64/MODEL 64 PRO ->is this ok if i will run an compiz in my ubuntu?15:15
indusSolar_Flares: but anyways, what is the exact problem,15:15
indusunless its been stated already15:15
Solar_Flaresindus: it was working before i installed ubuntu, after installatiob => not working.15:16
DarkomenInno 3D RIVA TNT2 MODEL 64/MODEL 64 PRO ->is this ok if i will run an compiz in my ubuntu?15:16
meaniefaceooboontoo: not sure if this will work but you can give it a shot http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-your-laptops-brightness-function-keys-operating-properly-in-hardy.html15:16
indusSolar_Flares: so next question, what do you mean 'not working' , do u see a boot menu15:16
gbrethenubuntu jaunty - can't get sametime support for empathy?15:16
erUSULindus: when windows boots it gets a BSOD15:16
* indus patience is a virtue15:17
ooboontoomeanieface tried that already. The issue with that is the scripts are pointing to /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness, but those files dont exist15:17
Solar_Flaresindus: yeah, grub loads, selecting windows, windows startx and crashes after the... boot screen. you know, that little blue thing that goes from right to left...15:17
induserUSUL: oh ubuntu gives brown color , bsod is windows own creation :)15:17
meaniefaceooboontoo: i see, ok let me dig some more15:17
dominaihow is it that all the sudden i can not su,... says authentication failure15:17
DarkomenInno 3D RIVA TNT2 MODEL 64/MODEL 64 PRO ->is this ok if i will run an compiz in my ubuntu?15:17
DarkomenInno 3D RIVA TNT2 MODEL 64/MODEL 64 PRO ->is this ok if i will run an compiz in my ubuntu?15:17
indusSolar_Flares: reinstall windows or repair it, this has nothing to do with ubuntu15:17
ooboontoomeanieface on this laptop the files are /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/DD0(x)/brightness, and the brightness file only has <not supported>15:17
Dr_WillisDarkomen:  try it and see is the ultimate answer.. I would guess.. its going to be sluggish.15:18
indusSolar_Flares: check if in bios, plug and play O/S is set to no ,( if u have such an option that is)15:18
Solar_Flaresindus: so its like "hard men dont make backups, but cry often."15:18
ooboontoomeanieface the part that gets me, is this was a common laptop, and other users experience the ability to change the brightness level, but I cant15:18
meaniefaceooboontoo: what is the laptop brand?15:18
meaniefaceooboontoo: and model15:18
indusSolar_Flares: also, did u try pressing f 8 to acess additional boot options15:18
ooboontoomeanieface: HP paviliion dv100015:19
apparlehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/297528/ This error come after fresh install Plz help15:19
Solar_Flaresindus: nope...15:19
indusSolar_Flares: last known good configuration15:19
Solar_Flaresi will try that15:19
Solar_Flaresthanks.15:19
indusSolar_Flares: i suggest windows channel also :)15:19
meaniefaceooboontoo: haha, man i've serviced so many of those things15:19
Solar_Flareslost known good configuration ^^15:19
Solar_Flaresthanks guys15:19
indusSolar_Flares: welcome15:19
meaniefaceooboontoo: hold on im searching15:19
induserUSUL: i do believe grub might mess windows mbr15:19
induserUSUL: a faulty grub that is15:20
indushappened to me lately15:20
indusnvm15:20
indusi gtg now15:20
indusciao a tutti15:20
ooboontoomeanieface mines the special edition, but the only thing that changed with that is the case and i think a remote or something, the hw is still the same as the normal dv100015:20
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thijs_how do i upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 from CLI ? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't seem to do the trick15:20
Dr_Willis!upgrade | thijs_15:21
ubottuthijs_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading15:21
DarkomenDr_Willis: what do you mean bhy slugish15:22
Dr_WillisDarkomen:  slow.. go try it and see.15:22
daevskiCan anyone tell me why I should switch to Ubuntu Server as opposed to setting up a file server on Ubuntu desktop?15:24
ooboontoomeanieface more info to add, I know changing of the brightness is not an issue, as if i turn it on with the AC attached, its full brightness, and if I turn it on with the laptop unplugged, its to its lowest setting.15:24
ooboontoodaevski: no reason if its just a file server15:24
SPhcThello... with drive mounting on ubuntu,15:24
Dr_Willisdaevski:  i use my desktops as servers all the time. :)   The server kernelhas a few different features.. but thats about it.15:24
Dr_Willis!mount | SPhcT15:25
ubottuSPhcT: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount15:25
strikepljest tu ktos z polski  ?15:25
downstarooobontoo: your battery may not be able to power your brightness then. its normal with laptops from being overcharged to kill the battery.15:25
pqrstuvDr_Willis: What kind of server? Is it web-server?15:25
daevskioobuntoo, Dr_Willis, thanks -- thanks all I wanted to know :)15:25
strikeplalbo ktos kto mowi po polsku15:25
Dr_Willispqrstuv:  it could be,.. but its just my lan file server15:25
bazhang!pl | strikepl15:25
ubottustrikepl: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.15:25
meaniefaceooboontoo: it's not so much the lcd but the function keys im looking into15:25
daevskioobuntoo, Dr_Willis, Do you know of any tutorial I could follow to set it up?15:25
meaniefaceooboontoo:  you are right though doesn't seem that many people have this problem15:26
ooboontoomeanieface: I used the (fix hotkeys) ubuntu docs wiki, and while running the keymap, the FN keys are not being recognized by ubuntu15:26
pqrstuvDr_Willis: Samba?15:26
ooboontoomeanieface but as far as i know, there is no other way to change those keymaps15:26
ooboontoomeanieface if i could just change it to Cntl+up/down, id be fine with that, but its not built that way15:27
meaniefaceooboontoo: have you tried a different keyboard layout?15:27
ooboontoomeanieface you know.. i havent, one sec,15:27
a931bwguys15:28
a931bwi installed java15:28
a931bwon ubuntu 9.0415:28
LuciusMarehello,ubuntu is compatibile with LSB 3.1 or 3.2?15:28
a931bwbut it wont work in ff15:28
downstarff?15:28
a931bwfirefox15:28
downstarfirefox?15:28
thiebaudea931bw, did you get sun-java6-plugin?15:28
a931bw?15:29
a931bwlemme check15:29
a931bwnope15:29
downstargo to add/remove and download sun-java. thats what u need for firefox15:30
ooboontoomeanieface well the keyboard model option didnt change anything15:30
a931bwsun java runtime?15:30
meaniefaceooboontoo: ok try this15:30
downstarsun-java6-plugin i think its called.15:30
meaniefaceooboontoo: open a terminal and type xev15:30
thiebaudea931bw, or just sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin and sun-java6-jre15:30
meaniefaceooboontoo: press the function key and see what it gives you15:31
a931bwthanks guys15:31
a931bwand15:31
LuciusMarehello,ubuntu is compatibile with LSB 3.1 or 3.2?15:31
SPhcTI have specific problem with mounting windows drives...15:31
ooboontoomeanieface same as before, nothing15:31
a931bwwhich desktop meneger u will recomend?15:31
a931bw512 ram 256 mb VRAM15:31
thiebaudeLuciusMare, what is LSB?15:31
pqrstuvIs anyone here using irssi?15:32
ooboontoomeanieface but every other function key works, and xev gets the input, just not FN f7/f815:32
SPhcTneed help with forced drives mounting..15:32
meaniefaceooboontoo: ok we are getting somewhere though15:32
LuciusMarethiebaude: linux standard base15:32
a931bwguys what desktop manager to use?15:33
a931bwmy comp isnt powerfull15:33
a931bw512 ram 256 GPU15:33
applemanwhats a good link for learning unix15:33
intangira931bw: that should  easily support any of them15:33
junruhhi15:33
rskappleman: what do you want to learn about unix15:33
a931bwi need fastest15:33
applemanoh i mean like commands15:33
rska931bw: twm is pretty fast15:33
pqrstuvappleman: See the topic above.15:33
thiebaude!wm15:33
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about wm15:33
intangira931bw: i use metacity/gnome, its fast15:33
a931bwis it usable/15:33
rskappleman: commands... for dooing?15:33
a931bwTWM?15:34
rska931bw: define usaable15:34
rskyea15:34
a931bwsudo apt get twm?15:34
rskyep15:34
applemani d k i have ubuntu and I'm looking to expand my understanding of linux15:34
pqrstuv!command15:34
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about command15:34
intangira931bw: the fastest ones are really limited functionality and .. ugly in most cases15:34
pqrstuvappleman: ubuntu support15:34
Pici!usage15:34
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots15:34
thiebaudea931bw, i thought openbox was good when i used it15:34
pqrstuv!commands15:34
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal15:34
FiloSottileif i launch a program from bash, can i get the pid of a process launched by it?15:34
rskappleman: doiing things you want to do is the fastest way of learning it, at least for me.15:34
a931bwopenbox15:34
junruhI need a information about suse linux15:34
a931bwisnt it virual machine?15:34
applemani see.... im not good at reading manuals anyway15:34
sdwrageHow do you remove something that you installed through "make install"?15:34
a931bwi not need good looking i need just fast15:34
downstarfilosottile: command is ps -al15:34
Picijunruh: Try #suse15:35
thiebaudea931bw, fluxbox15:35
a931bwtring TWM15:35
applemanso whos the biggest linux guru here with the longest amount of experience?15:35
Dr_Willisflvwm :)15:35
ikoniaappleman: just ask your question, someone will answer if they know15:36
rska931bw: TWM is _very_ basic but it's the fastest you can have i think.15:36
junruhI haven't got internet15:36
applemanok ikonia15:36
thiebaude!offtopic | appleman15:36
Dr_Willisappleman:  get reading... thats the best thing to do.15:36
ubottuappleman: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!15:36
ab2qikcan the jaunty version of firefox be uninstalled and a fresh one direct from mozilla be downloaded and installed? thanks!15:36
isleshocky77Is there a way of starting a process through ssh that will stay open even after ssh is closed without using screen?15:36
applemani hate reading so does linux play halo?15:36
SPhcTi have specific problem with windows disks i need get old files but ubuntu dosnt allow me to mount..15:36
Dr_WillisSPhcT:  try the ntfs-3g command from the command line. Look for error messages.. You may need to use the 'force' option15:37
junruhappleman, please read my message15:37
FiloSottiledownstar: but i need to get the pid of the program launched by the first one15:37
a931bwi just mounted my one15:37
applemani want to download quake1 off the torrent that came with ubuntu... i am entitled to the copyrights of quake115:37
ikoniaappleman: halo is an xbox game - so no15:37
applemanits on pc too15:37
applemanwindows15:37
Dr_Willisappleman:  if you dont want to read. Stick to windows I guess...   Theres ports of quake1 for linux.15:37
FiloSottiledownstar: i launch a program that launch an other and returns, i want the pid of the socond one in bash15:37
Dr_Willis!games | appleman15:37
SPhcTDr_Willis how i can find out what drives i have pluged in?15:37
ubottuappleman: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php15:37
ab2qikpls help nn15:37
junruhhalo isa computergame!15:37
Dr_WillisSPhcT:  use the 'dmesg' command is one way15:37
ikoniaappleman: ok - so that case you'd need to try with something like wine, which can be discussed in #wine-hq15:38
bazhangjunruh, did you have an ubuntu support question15:38
ab2qikhelp needed with firefox install?15:38
junruhyes15:38
meaniefaceooboontoo: ok try typing xgamma -gamma 0.75 see what happens15:38
ooboontoomeanieface that doesnt change brightness, that just changes the gamma15:39
applemanso is ubuntu 9.04 like the best?15:39
kubancis there any solution for intel graphic card for playing movies, because when playing videos, the picture is not 100% liguid,15:39
applemanof all ubuntus15:39
SPhcTDr_Willis sdb sdb1 sdb2?15:39
Alex3ndercan anyone help me setup a tvtuner device on ubuntu karmic... the details are here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/8640815:39
a931bwdownloading linux games15:39
ooboontoomeanieface to be more specific, gamma correction15:39
a931bwwho can give me some links?15:39
FiloSottilei launch a program that launch an other and returns, i want the pid of the socond one in bash15:39
StaRetjikubanc add x-updates ppa to you apt sources list15:39
meaniefaceooboontoo: ok, go to this site http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4168042#post416804215:40
junruhi will try to open the new ubuntu server . Do you hear something about that?15:40
StaRetjiand then apt-get update and apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel15:40
kubancStaRetji, i cannot add x-updates to my ppa, bacause i had to revert to Xorg 2.4 intel drivers15:41
junruhHelp i need help from Dr. Willi15:41
meaniefaceooboontoo: i know it won't solve your function key problem but its a workaround at best15:41
sdwrageAnyone, How do you remove something that you installed through "make install"?15:41
SPhcTDr_Willis sdb, sdb1... or ata1, ata2..15:41
ooboontoomeanieface They are two seperate things though, gamma =! lcd brightness. There is a lamp on the LCD that has a brightness level, IE how much light it gives off15:41
applemani downloaded bzflag it was pretty cool... warsaw is butt slow i think theres graphic card compatibility problems with my laptop and ubuntu .. i will have to google the model of the laptop and find some sort of intel video driver catalyst to install15:41
junruhno from Dr. Willid15:41
junruhoh15:41
junruhJeah15:42
ooboontoomeanieface alot of people misconstrue brightness and gamma, they are two widely different things15:42
junruhFuck15:42
FloodBot3junruh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.15:42
bazhangjunruh, watch the language15:42
junruhFuckme15:42
Hick0rdHello, I installed ubuntu tweak few days ago, it doesnt work as it should be, and caused synaptic not to function at all, making me unable to update my pc. I tried to use all codes , such as sudo apt-get remove, --purge, and none of them worked. I tried to change the status file in usr/share/ubuntu-tweak, and the status file was found to be read only and impossible to modify. how can i get rid of ubuntu tweak and retain my pc as it was?15:42
Dr_WillisSPhcT:  drive names are /dev/sd## normally. 'ata' is proberly the kind of connection it has15:42
meaniefaceooboontoo: oh i see the backlight15:43
ooboontoomeanieface even the last post "That's not really the same thing. That's just increasing the color saturation; and not actually brightening the LCD's backlight, resulting in a significant difference in appearance."15:43
meaniefaceooboontoo: yah i just read that15:43
junruhI don't like your meaning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!15:43
Alex3nderhey Dr_Willis can you take a look at this: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/86408 please... : )15:43
StaRetjikubanc: Why?15:43
mescalhi everybody I take an old computer to make a ubuntu working station but i have a problem with the sis drivers15:44
StaRetjikubanc: Because of the performance? If you are using Jaunty it is safe to add this repo and upgrade dude15:44
mescali run on a 22" and my resolution max is 800*600 sniff15:44
mescalif i try to modify the configuration file X crash15:45
meaniefaceooboontoo: seems as after the breezy distro the function keys got messed up15:45
kubancStaRetji, bacause in 9.04 i had a white screen when i log into gnome, so i did what it said in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance, and white screen went away15:45
ooboontoomeanieface haha aye, but i dont want to go back to breezy15:45
meaniefaceooboontoo: don't blame ya15:46
StaRetjikubanc: That is history mate, and if something goes wrong you can always roll back to 2.415:46
ooboontoomeanieface i started ubuntu on breezy, oh man the headaches15:46
meaniefaceooboontoo: lol15:46
meatbunwhat country is abc.com.pl ?15:46
mescalpoland ?15:46
StaRetjikubanc: New driver is compiled few days ago, I have tested it, works great15:46
Alex3nderany v4l expertos? :D15:46
mescaleastern europe15:46
meatbunmescal, oh yeah. thx15:46
mescal:)15:47
kubancStaRetji, so everything i need to do is just update the ppa for x-updates15:47
mescalnice country and nice girls over there15:47
meatbunmescal, http://www.atm.com.pl/  <--- pool lady look like this?15:47
mescalyep15:47
StaRetjikubanc, yep, check this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113058215:47
Hick0rdAny ideas on how do I un-install ubuntu-tweak ?15:48
monkey_boy26hi15:48
mescalor like this --> http://images.google.fr/images?hl=fr&source=hp&q=poland%20girl&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi15:48
StaRetjiHick0rd apt-get remove?15:48
monkey_boy26i have a problem15:48
bazhangmescal, dont paste that here15:48
mescali know15:49
monkey_boy26i need to create a file called boot.img15:49
monkey_boy26backup of /boot15:49
kubancStaRetji, do in need to do A,B,C and D part of tutorial?15:49
Hick0rdStaRetji, doesn't work15:49
monkey_boy26how do i create it with .img extension?15:49
mescalanyone to help me with my X resoltion problem ?15:49
StaRetjikubanc, I did A and B, but A is enough, just select uxa method in xorg.conf15:49
monkey_boy26please help15:50
babakhi15:50
mescalhi15:50
StaRetjikubanc, sorry, I did A only :)15:50
babakhow solve this problem?  http://pastebin.com/m1313173d15:50
monkey_boy26i need to create a file .img15:50
Dr_WillisHick0rd:  if you installed it with the package manager system or .deb packages you can use the package manager to remove it15:50
monkey_boy26so i can mount it later in a directory15:50
monkey_boy26how do i create it?15:50
monkey_boy26.img15:51
StaRetjiHick0rd, what is exact name of the package dude15:51
mescalunder linux monkey ?15:51
kubancStaRetji, i did part A a half hour ago, and no change, was it because i didn't update my ppa for X.org?15:51
monkey_boy26yes15:51
gestaltishDoes anyone know how to enable WPA in Jaunty?15:51
Dr_Willismonkey_boy26:  what is that .img thing supposed to be anyway?15:51
monkey_boy26i have to make a backup15:51
rosenhi15:51
monkey_boy26of /boot15:51
monkey_boy26in a file called boot.img15:51
Alex3ndercan anyone help me setup ivtv for my device? details here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/8640815:51
StaRetjikubanc, most probably15:52
monkey_boy26so i can later mount this image in a folder15:52
babakhow can solve this problem?  http://pastebin.com/m1313173d15:52
Dr_Willismonkey_boy26:  you can use 'dd' to image a partition to a file.15:52
monkey_boy26i want to image just this folder: /boot15:52
StaRetjiHick0rd, sudo dpkg -P ubuntu-tweak15:52
kubancStaRetji, ok, I'll do this now, and tell you what's the status in a few minutes :)15:52
meaniefaceooboontoo: have you tried the gnome-power-manager?15:52
StaRetjikubanc, good luck, cross fingers :)15:52
ooboontoomeanieface Yeah, I set all the settings to keep the brightness at high at all times, but if i unplug the laptop and turn it on, it will set the brightness to low every time15:53
mescaldidi you try the dd command ?15:53
StaRetjikubanc, make sure it is right repo, let me copy my own, wait a sec15:53
mescalmonkaey15:53
meaniefaceooboontoo: grrr15:53
monkey_boy26yep15:53
ooboontoomeanieface I wouldnt care about being able to change the brightness at all, if it just stayed at max, because thats how i like it15:53
monkey_boy26it's not working15:53
Picibabak: Install the build-essential package: sudo apt-get install build-essential15:53
monkey_boy26cause i just want to backup /boot15:53
monkey_boy26not the whole partition15:54
StaRetjikubanc15:54
StaRetjideb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu jaunty main15:54
StaRetjideb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu jaunty main15:54
Dr_Willismonkey_boy26:  then you should just put /boot files in a archive and be done with it.15:54
Dr_Willismonkey_boy26:  not sure why you are trying todo all this...15:54
monkey_boy26it's my homework15:54
monkey_boy26:))15:54
tigahi, I have an old ext3 hard drive from a redhat machine. The boot and swap partitions are good, but the root partition doesn't get recognized as ext3. I've used dd to copy the partition to my machine. Which tools can I use to recover the data off this drive?15:54
Dr_Willismonkey_boy26:  then You should clarify the question.. you are a bit vague on specifics.15:55
monkey_boy26i need to backup /boot in a file boot.img and then mount this image in a folder15:55
kubancStaRetji, shoudl i do first update and upgrade, and restart gdm15:55
Dr_Willismonkey_boy26:  you caould make a filesystem in a file.  then copy the files over.15:55
kubancStaRetji, or should i update, upgrade, change xorg.conf and restart gmd ?15:55
monkey_boy26how do i make that?15:55
slabbehMy partitions are currently ext3, is there going to be a way for me to convert these to ext4 when 9.10 arrives.15:55
slabbeh?15:55
Dr_Willismonkey_boy26:  perhaps read your class notes.. You sould use 'dd' and 'mkfs' and mount. and 'cp'15:55
monkey_boy26that the problem15:56
monkey_boy26i can't use mkfs15:56
monkey_boy26in debian benny15:56
mescalwhere i can find the configuration files for the eggdrop irc bot bot installed with apt-get plz ?15:56
StaRetjikubanc, i wouldn't go that far, just apt-get update and apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel libdrm-intel1 should be enough, than change xorg.conf and the reboot15:56
monkey_boy26it says command not found15:56
monkey_boy26i tried installing all the packages15:56
monkey_boy26but still couldn't use mkfs15:56
Dr_Willis$ mkfs15:56
Dr_WillisUsage: mkfs [-V] [-t fstype] [fs-options] device [size]15:57
Picimonkey_boy26: If you're using debian then you should be asking in #debian15:57
thiebaudemonkey_boy26, you using debian lenny?15:57
monkey_boy26yep15:57
thiebaudewrong channel15:57
monkey_boy26sorry15:57
monkey_boy26i'm sorry15:57
thiebaudenp15:57
aguitelslabbeh, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111829515:58
Dr_WillisIbet #debian will LOVE him....15:58
skiquelhow do i turn the ubuntu font dpi stuff off15:59
Gabibre15:59
ooboontoomeanieface maybe i should disable acpi15:59
skiquelits making my applications look wierd15:59
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skiqueli just want the typical, consistent font across everything without having it resized automatically15:59
kubancStaRetji, OK, i have the picture, and now for the movie part16:00
meaniefaceooboontoo: you could try it16:00
StaRetjikubanc ;)16:00
apparlehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/297528/ This error come after fresh install Plz help16:00
thiebaudeDr_Willis, yea i remember when i first went into #debian16:01
kubancStaRetji, what can I say, i think it's OK16:01
ooboontoomeanieface wow i turned it off, still switched it to low brightness16:01
Alex3ndercan anyone help me setup a tvtuner device on ubuntu karmic... the details are here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/8640816:01
kubancStaRetji, yep, what can I say, you'r the man :D16:02
Elixira lot of package is deleted from my system .. how can I detect them ?16:02
StaRetjikubanc \o/16:02
junruhHI there.16:02
ooboontoomeanieface this is so frustrating... worst exp ive ever had in ubuntu, and ive been using it for 4 years16:02
FiloSottilehow to wait for a process to terminate in bash with its pid16:02
StaRetjikubanc, hehe, I only had to persuade ya16:03
meaniefaceooboontoo: well at this point im tryin anything try this https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuLaptopButtons16:03
StaRetjikubanc, everything else was easy16:03
rohtieHello, when i plug in a jack cable, the laptop speakers continue to sound. How do I fix this?16:03
kubancStaRetji, well, i'm just learning ubuntu and Linux, i hope one day i would be able to have the brain to help someone else, like you did to me today16:04
kubanc:D16:04
StaRetji:p16:04
junruhIch bin ein Deutscher, (I am a german) Das stimmt voll echt ! Was seit ihr für Opfer?16:04
ooboontoomeanieface wat package should i install?16:04
rohtiejunruh: Ich bin auch deutsch....16:04
SPhcTDr_Willis i have 3 hard drives pluged in but i cant find ther names can u say comand what can mount them and posoble names?16:05
meaniefaceooboontoo: hold on16:05
junruhEcht? Oida geil!Bist du auch ein Bayer?16:05
hxwxwhxhxahi all, i need some help about error " dependency is not satisfiable ". i cannot install any .deb files16:05
rohtiejunruh: Ja :D16:05
ooboontoomeanieface would rather not install KDE, but if thats my only choice, i may be a convery16:05
ooboontooconvert16:05
Pici!de | junruh16:05
ubottujunruh: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.16:05
Alex3nderIch möchte ein Esel Deutsch Schraube16:06
junruhI a16:06
hxwxwhxhxahi all, i need some help about error " dependency is not satisfiable ". i cannot install any .deb files16:06
junruhubottu: Wo?16:06
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about Wo?16:06
rohtiehxwxwhxhxa: YOu probably have to install extra libs16:06
hxwxwhxhxarohtie: explain, plz xD16:07
meaniefaceooboontoo: what do you use now?16:07
Alex3ndersorry... was kiddin' :)16:07
junruhlol16:07
Picijunruh: #ubuntu-de für deutschsprachige16:07
ooboontoomeanieface gnome16:07
SPhcTi have 3 hard drives pluged in but i cant find ther names can u say comand what can mount them and posoble names?16:07
Alex3nderim tired of cryin for help here! :S16:07
CeilWhat would make a server go unresponsive in every way besides over-heating?16:07
junruhWie kann ich den Kanal öffnen?16:07
FiloSottilehow to wait for a process to terminate in bash with its pid16:07
llutzjunruh: draufklicken oder /join #ubuntu-de tippen16:07
Alex3ndercan someone look into this.. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/8640816:08
Alex3nderplease16:08
rohtiehxwxwhxhxa: youll have to install packages which you package needs16:08
junruhJa wo draufklicken16:08
llutzjunruh: auf #ubuntu-de16:08
hxwxwhxhxarohtie: i need network-manager-pptp and network-manager-vpnc16:08
rohtieHow do i disable my speakers when my headphones are in?16:08
junruhWOO IIIIIISSSSSSTTTTT DDDDAAAAASSSSSSSSS???????16:08
PiciAlex3nder: If no one is answering, maybe no one knows. You can try looking on the forums as well.  Also, perhaps #ubuntu-mythtv can help16:08
rohtiehxwxwhxhxa: THen type sudo apt-get install network-manager-pptp network-manager-vpnc16:09
SPhcTi have 3 hard drives pluged in but i cant find ther names can u say comand what can mount them and posoble names?16:09
llutzjunruh: schrei hier nicht rum, tippe es einfach16:09
Alex3nderPici, thank you16:09
Alex3nderi will go to ubuntu-mythtv perhaps :D16:09
junruhSorry!16:09
hxwxwhxhxarohtie: i can't, because i don't have internet connection, it does not want to update anything16:09
junruhBist du ein Nigger?16:09
x_how do i mount ssh filesystem at boot  with no password prompt16:09
hxwxwhxhxarohtie: and i need to install pptp or vpnc so i can configure my vpn16:10
conb123Hiya does abyb16:10
rohtiehxwxwhxhxa: How do you use this irc then?16:10
conb123oops16:10
llutzthx pici16:10
Picillutz: yw16:10
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hxwxwhxhxarohtie: i am on other computer16:10
conb123Hiya does anyone know of a way i can convert my ext4 file system to ext3 in jaunty? Can i just change it in /etc/fstab?16:10
hxwxwhxhxarohtie: with windows |-(16:10
rohtiehxwxwhxhxa: You could download the packages you need on the computer you're on and transfer them to your other16:11
SPhcTi have 3 hard drives pluged in but i cant mount them can u say comand what can mount?16:11
ooboontoomeanieface: I am downloading Kubuntu 9.04 and gonna install it. I hope this works..16:11
flecharotasabeis como conecto oftopic?16:11
hxwxwhxhxarohtie : i tried, and when i tryed to install them, i get error "Dependency not satisfiable"16:11
Piciflecharota: /join #ubuntu-es-offtopic16:11
flecharotagracias pici16:11
rohtiehxwxwhxhxa: Then youll probably have to download their dependencies too ^^16:12
flecharota /join #ubuntu-es-offtopic16:12
ooboontoomeanieface, because this is 4 days of searching and looking through bug reports and asking for help. for something as simple as changing the backlight brightness16:12
CeilWhat would make a computer go unresponsive besides over-heating?16:12
rohtieAnyone know how to dissable speakers when headphones are plugged in?16:12
hxwxwhxhxarohtie: but i dunno what are their dependencies :(16:12
rohtiehxwxwhxhxa: They are packages needed by your package16:12
flecharota /join #ubuntu-es-offtopic16:12
jbichaHappy 5th Birthday!16:12
conb123Ceil: To many processes?16:12
meaniefaceooboontoo: i can understand your pain, it's buggin the crap outta me and it's not even my problem16:13
flecharotacomo cambio d canal plis16:13
Fenix1where can i learn bash shell use16:13
rohtiehxwxwhxhxa: It's like baking a cake. You will need multiple igrediens16:13
apparleI want to compile a package with g++ 3.4 how to16:13
hxwxwhxhxarohtie: and where i can see wich packages need my packages? loL16:13
meaniefaceooboontoo: 4 days would be way past my threshold16:13
equinox_oki couple of questions?16:13
equinox_1-why the heck after this many years, ubuntu, hasn't found a way of keeping the packages up to date..16:13
ooboontoomeanieface like i said, I wouldnt mind if it was 100% all the time, but its not even picking up its own settings, and doing whatever the hell it wants16:13
equinox_2- what the F*CK is that software center.. like... WTF?16:13
equinox_3- after all this time, still problems such as flash, and drivers..16:13
equinox_4- after all this time, still a weird Boot up, why don't they FIRE GRUB...16:13
FloodBot3equinox_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.16:13
ooboontoomeanieface I might try Arch16:13
rohtiehxwxwhxhxa: You will find out when you try to install the packages needed by your packages16:13
Alex3nderPici, that is a dead channel you gave me... btw.. how long does a usual response take on launchpad answers...??16:14
Ceilconb123: Maybe I should be more specific.  The computer is my server.  The load has never been ever .5  It is very modest hardware but it just has almost nothing to do.  I leave it on (and headless) and it sits under the desk.  Inevitably it gets completely frozen every 1 - 3 days and I have to restart it.  It's not over-heating.  Any ideas?16:14
rskequinox_: do you expect an answear or do you just want to complan?16:14
hxwxwhxhxarohtie : it does not say, dude, it is just that freaking error16:14
rohtieHow do i disable my speakers?16:14
rskcomplain*16:14
rskrohtie: unpluc the cord16:14
rskunplug. bah fin keyboard.16:14
rohtiehxwxwhxhxa: Then you're pretty fucked16:14
equinox_rsk just complain..  dont think there are answers to that16:14
PiciAlex3nder: Most channels aren't as busy as this one, and I don't use asnwers, so I'm afraid I can't answer that one.16:14
rohtiersk: They are laptop speakers16:14
hxwxwhxhxarohtie: thanks :)16:14
rskequinox_: there is, would you be intrested?16:14
Picirohtie: Please mind your language here.16:14
ruby_on_tailshello16:14
rohtiePici: Sorry16:15
equinox_sure bless me.. rsk16:15
rohtiehxwxwhxhxa: YOu should try aksing someone else. I'm still a newbie :316:15
conb123Ceil: Well how long have you had it maybe some of the components have just gone bad16:15
hxwxwhxhxarohtie: ok, thanks anyway!16:15
Alex3nderPici thanks anyway! :)16:15
jribapparle: http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/autoconf.html#Defining-Variables16:15
ruby_on_tailsI want to know about the practical uses and power of bash scripting, anyone can let me know a good reading material ?16:15
rskequinox_: packages are updated twice a year, with some exceptions. like firefox usually gets a new version when it's out. + all other packages always gets security updates.16:15
rohtiedoes anyone know how i can disable my speakers when my headphones are plugged in?16:15
prince_jammysruby_on_tails: /join #bash16:16
hxwxwhxhxahow can i solve error "Dependency not satisfied"?16:16
rskequinox_: software center is just a publicity stunt i think, but it works good i think.16:16
jribruby_on_tails: tldp.org ask #bash too16:16
hxwxwhxhxahow can i solve error "Dependency not satisfiable"?16:16
ruby_on_tailsaah k thanks16:16
rskequinox_: what problems with drivers? also flash it not ubuntu's fault it's adobe who make it.16:16
Ceilconb123: It is probably 7 or 8 years old.  I have only owned it for 2 months.  Most recently I had it up for 3 days.  I suspect (as is the pattern) if I rebooted it right now it would run fine for at least a couple hours.  What components going bad would cause a problem like this??16:16
rskequinox_: and what do you mean by weird boot?16:16
SPhcTi have 3 hard drives pluged in but i cant mount them can u say comand what can mount?16:17
hxwxwhxhxahow can i solve error "Dependency not satisfiable"?16:17
khtaamhxwxwhxhxa, have you downloaded a deb file?16:17
ZiberWhat would I do about http://zpaste.org/388 ?16:17
rohtiehxwxwhxhxa: I just thought of something. YOu could search for the package on the internet. Their dependencies are mostly there16:17
hxwxwhxhxakhtaam: yes16:17
equinox_rsk, for example, since xp, have nver been successful with dual boot..16:17
nickapaloozaCeil: most likely the HDD, possibly some RAM16:17
hxwxwhxhxarohtie: ok16:17
conb123Ceil: Well hard drives start to break enevtually16:17
jribruby_on_tails: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/using/bash is kind of interesting to go through and understand some of the complicated ones16:17
andypiperis the Ubuntu One service enabled yet? when I start the app on Karmic it sends me to a launchpad auth page, but clicking ok returns an error16:17
equinox_rsk you install and setup grub to pick up your windows partition16:17
SPhcTneed help with hard drives16:17
PiciAlex3nder : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.16:18
khtaamhxwxwhxhxa,  run: sudo dpkg -i <debfile> in i terminal16:18
SPhcThow can i mount them manualy..16:18
PiciAlex3nder: sorry, mistab16:18
mayajowoalow16:18
equinox_once you reboot, and boot back into ubunut, windows won't start any more16:18
Ceilconb123: nickapalooza:  Great!  Thanks guys! :)  I was baffled because none of my logs had any errors.  I'll try replacing those parts first.  Thanks again! :)16:18
hxwxwhxhxakhtaam: and this will install it without any questions? xD16:18
Piciandypiper: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic issues please.16:18
nickapaloozaCeil: np16:18
rskequinox_: i've never had that problem so i can't give any insight on it16:18
khtaamhxwxwhxhxa, no, but it should show the dependencys16:18
ZiberWhat would I do about http://zpaste.org/388 ?16:18
hxwxwhxhxakhtaam: haha, okay, going to try it16:19
apparlejrib: I have downloaded a source and compiling it.... and the site says use 3.4 .....so what to do16:19
jribapparle: did you read the link I gave you that answers your question?16:19
skulddoes anybody know what the terminal command is to see my iptables?16:19
SPhcTPici kac you say how mount if i get eror m unable to mount volume storge16:19
andypiperPici: thanks16:19
LuciusMareHello,when i want to print something,everything black is printed in small lines,not one big black area,but like 3 lines per inch.I have Epson stylus DX4000.16:19
jrib!iptables > skuld16:19
ubottuskuld, please see my private message16:19
PiciSPhcT: I'm not sure what you're asking.16:19
mayajowoubuntu16:20
Ceilskuld: sudo iptables -L16:20
skuldsometimes I hate mirc.  I don't see any pm's16:20
SPhcTPici so i have 3 hard drives from windows and i want save files but i cant mount one..16:20
jribskuld: use a decent client then...16:20
nickapaloozaskuld: sounds should let you know?16:20
conb123So guys do you know of any way i can convert my ext4 partition to ext3 in jaunty?16:20
equinox_rsk also another weird thing, whenver i turn off by computer, there's this screen that comes up, as if the screen was dead16:20
LuciusMareanyone,please?16:20
mugwort13Has anyone had problems with file permissions when uploading to a windows based web server?16:21
equinox_rsk it shows up like some black patches, with some yellow white.,16:21
apparlejrib: did not understand it..... and there is a package gcc-3.4 but there is not package like g++-3.416:21
equinox_rsk can't quite explain.. you know what.. will comeback with a better compiled list of the troubles and details on how to recreate them16:21
LuciusMareHello,when i want to print something,everything black is printed in small lines,not one big black area,but like 3 lines per inch.I have Epson stylus DX4000.16:21
conb123LuciusMare: have you tried replacing the ink?16:21
jribapparle: that's a pretty ridiculous claim to be honest, I'm sorry16:21
LuciusMareconb123: its new16:21
Jeruvymugwort13: its pretty common, even on ubuntu systems :)16:22
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conb123LuciusMare: So get a refund then16:22
nickapaloozaLuciusMare: sounds like the ink cartridge16:22
jribapparle: read the line that starts "For example"16:22
nickapaloozai would get a replacement16:22
SPhcTPici so i have 3 hard drives from windows and i want save files but i cant mount one..16:22
LuciusMarei would bet its driver error,it does not even send me information about cartridges.16:22
LuciusMarebut whatever16:22
jribapparle: gcc-3.4 includes g++16:22
LuciusMaregoing to try under windows,coming back in...5 mins?16:22
PiciSPhcT: Ask the channel, I'm a bit busy at the moment, sorry.16:23
nickapaloozahe asks for help but has his own ideas :/16:23
jribapparle: why don't you step back and tell us what you are compiling?16:23
SPhcTi have 3 hard drives from windows and i want save files but i cant mount one..16:23
skuldoh I see it!  it was buried in another window!  thanks!16:23
apparlejrib: ohh... actually the 'make' already looks for g++ 3.4 but I din't find the package so I asked16:23
conb123SPhcT: Which ubuntu version are you using?16:23
SPhcT8.1016:24
SPhcTconb123 8.1016:24
conb123SPhct: Try doing an fdisk -l, then find the windows partitions (ntfs or fat) then just do sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /PARTITION -o force16:25
conb123SPhcT: Sorry probably should have said you have to do sudo fdisk -l16:25
epaphusHello, is it possible to install the base (and only the base) from the alternate cd?16:26
rskequinox_: sure16:26
conb123epaphus: Yeah16:26
tavihy16:26
tavii have problems whit my print16:26
synackfindoes anyone know why linux is auto-negotiating some disks as 1.5Gbps and others at 3.0Gbps from my DAS (using sil24 module)?  The disks are all identical 2TB drives, and it's a single eSata connection16:26
epaphusconb123, but with the regular cd.. it isnt possible right? the deskptop one16:26
synackfini'm running linux software raid5 on the disks, and it's causing corruption (mdadm detects the corruption and randomly disables disks depending on which one got auto-negotiated at 1.5Gbps)16:26
SPhcTconb123 it find out sda and sdb? thats right?16:26
Piciepaphus: No. You'd need the minimal CD for that. The alternate CD does not allow you to pick what packages you want.16:26
taviprint same page that i have printed few days ago ...and not the one i want now16:27
taviany ideea?16:27
conb123epaphus: no with the live cd it is not but with the laternate you can choose the packages16:27
conb123epaphus: oh sorry thought it did my bad16:27
mikebeecham1hi guys....is there a Microsoft Publisher alternative for Ubuntu?16:28
SPhcTconb123 uhm... so under Device Boot is sda1, sda2 under another Device boot is sdb116:29
Picimikebeecham1: scribus comes to mind as a possible alternative. Its in the repos.16:29
mikebeecham1will look now Pici16:29
mikebeecham1thanks16:29
kelohippi1is inkscape the best available vector graphix program for linux?16:30
preecherdoes ubuntu 9.04 come with different window managers16:30
Picipreecher: It comes with compiz and metacity by default.  There are others in the repositories if you want to install them.16:31
preecherPici,  thx16:32
riyonukCan someone assist me in installing Arch Linux from a USB, to the same USB, while still keeping my files on there [=16:32
riyonuk*Ubuntu16:32
ruby_on_tailswhat will happen if I do kill init in my terminal ?16:36
conb123Does anyone know of a way for me to convert my ext4 partition to ext3 in jaunty?16:36
prince_jammysyou hopefully get a permission denied error.16:37
grawityruby_on_tails: If init receives SIGINT, it will act the same as if Ctrl-Alt-Del was pressed.16:37
SPhcTconb123 ntfs-3g shows some error16:37
grawityruby_on_tails: Other signals are ignored by init, AFAIK.16:37
conb123SPhct: It does? What error?16:38
preecheri found a page describing how to download other desktops such as KDE andenlightenment--if i install these will i still be able to use and have my gnome if i dont like them16:38
ruby_on_tailsbash: kill: (1) - Operation not permitted16:38
ruby_on_tailshow can I kill init ?16:38
grawityruby_on_tails: Well, you need root to kill any process that you do not own.16:38
ruby_on_tailshmm16:38
joaopintoand killing init is a very bad idea16:38
llutzwhy should one want to kill init?16:39
ruby_on_tailsfor curiosity16:39
grawityjoaopinto: I'll just let him find that out yourself.16:39
prince_jammysboredom16:39
grawityhimself*16:39
ruby_on_tailsI tried it out16:39
ruby_on_tailsnothing happened lol16:39
grawityruby_on_tails: Like I already said, init just ignores some signals.16:40
ruby_on_tailshmm16:40
SPhcTconb123 about names subtree16:40
grawityIn other words, read the damn manpage.16:40
ruby_on_tailsI thought it will do a shut down or something16:40
ruby_on_tailsgot this > http://codepad.org/2dqoj2xi16:40
conb123SPhct: Well can i see the whole thing?16:40
ruby_on_tailsjoaopinto: it can have ill effects ?16:41
ludovicprobleme de connexion wifi16:41
grawityruby_on_tails: 'kill' only takes pids, not process names.16:41
joaopintoruby_on_tails, for curiosity, you should read something about Linux processes and signals, you would learn much more and actually understand what you are trying to do16:41
SPhcTconb123 i wrote sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 -o force is this right?16:41
Otacon22UniDoes enyone knows how to log ssh access on sshd?16:41
grawityOtacon22Uni: Connections are already logged to syslog16:41
ruby_on_tailsgrawity: I did kill 1 1 was the PID for init16:41
conb123SPhcT: yep should be as long as that is an ntfs partition16:41
datzwhere is the default screenshot program?16:42
SPhcTconb123 it is on another pc..16:42
grawityruby_on_tails: And what did it say?16:42
grawitydatz: gnome-screenshot16:42
ruby_on_tailsgrawity: what I pasted just not16:42
ruby_on_tailsnow*16:42
datzHow can I make a shortcut to it?16:42
grawityruby_on_tails: That is really _not_ what it says on 'kill 1'.16:42
Otacon22Unigrawity, where exactly?16:42
Otacon22Uniwich file?16:42
mo0nykitdatz: i think it is ctrl-printscrn by default16:42
ruby_on_tailsgrawity: sudo kill 116:42
llutzOtacon22Uni: maybe you'll have to cahnge "LogLevel"16:42
llutzchange*16:43
grawityOtacon22Uni: Depends on your syslog config, but usually /var/log/auth.log16:43
Otacon22Unillutz, in sshd_conf?16:43
sandershello /server irc.undernet.org /join #programmeur16:43
sandershello /server irc.undernet.org /join #programmeur16:43
sandershello /server irc.undernet.org /join #programmeur16:43
sandershello /server irc.undernet.org /join #programmeur16:43
FloodBot3sanders: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.16:43
ruby_on_tailsI entered my pass and got that16:43
llutzOtacon22Uni: sshd_config16:43
conb123SPhcT: How can it be on another pc?16:43
grawityruby_on_tails: I have a reason to not believe you.16:43
apparlewhy there isn't g++-3.4 for intrepid and onwards16:43
joaopintoruby_on_tails, please read "man kill"16:43
ruby_on_tailsgrawity: ? well...why would I lie lol16:43
SPhcTconb123 i mean eror16:43
simon__hi16:43
datz grawity, I want to take a screenshot when rotating desktop cube.16:43
mo0nykitdatz: take a look at system --> preferences --> keyboard shortcuts. it's there16:43
conb123SPhcT: What???16:44
simon__hi people16:44
nickapaloozaHI MAN16:44
nickapaloozaHOW AREYOU16:44
simon__fine and you16:44
datzmo0nykit, well ok.. shortbut is print screen button, although it doesn work when rotating cube16:44
SPhcTconb123 i have 1 pc to internet and another what im fixing not connected16:44
nickapaloozadoing well i reckon16:44
simon__oh i see16:45
conb123SPhcT: Right so what has that got to do with it?16:45
simon__where are you from16:45
mo0nykitdatz: oh.. i haven't tried that on the cube.. in my case, doing a printscreen brings up a dialog box asking where to save your image. give it a try. maybe the dialog box comes up after you release the cube16:45
ZykoticK9datz, screenshot compiz cube -- use gnome screenshot tool and set the dely to a few seconds - then stage your cube in the few seconds before the delay runs out.  Good luck.16:46
datzmo0nykit, nope tried it16:46
datzZykoticK9, thanks16:46
flecharotax oftopic q pongo¿16:46
mo0nykitZykoticK9: thanks for the tip :)16:46
flecharotaayuda,como entro en oftopic16:48
SPhcTconb123 http://pastebin.com/m7bfe051d this message i get find on internet16:48
duffydackdont need to delay screenshot.. just push the button16:49
tryggAnyone know how I can get a graphical presentation of how much each directory takes?16:49
dan_hello16:49
dan_i have a problem, and i was wondering if anyone could help out.16:50
hetOrakeltrygg: try Baobab16:50
conb123SPhcT: That is just the help message you get if you type the command wrong16:50
grawitydan_: If you just ask your question, probably.16:50
BoxMagnetSPhcT, lol16:50
SPhcTconb123 i wrote "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 -o force"16:50
BoxMagnetSPhcT, sudo mount /dev/hdx /mount/point16:50
trygghetOrakel: I think it's just what I'm looking for. Thanks.16:50
BoxMagnetSPhcT, sudo mount ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /mount/point16:51
dan_okay.  i tried installing the desktop version of Ubuntu.  it shows the Ubuntu logo, a line travels across the screen under the logo, then everything goes blank.16:51
isaac_Alsa update wont work. I've clicked on everything and it wont compile.....16:51
duffydackdatz, prntscrn button doesnt work for you while rotating cube?  does for me.16:51
dan_my cdrom still reads the cd, but no video.16:51
HajuuHey guys, is there a dedicated channel for ubuntu cloud server distro?16:51
dan_i have 2 Radeon X1950 cards.16:51
BoxMagnetdan_, what happens when you hit ctrl+alt+backspace16:52
SPhcTBoxMagnet do i need -o force?16:52
BoxMagnetdan_, you might need to take 1 out till its configured16:52
dan_well i've never tried that.  is that a standard solution for video problems?16:52
BoxMagnetSPhcT, i never used it but what does -o do?16:52
HajuuCtrl+alt+backspace restarts X16:52
Hajuuthats all16:52
dan_okay, take one out.16:52
BoxMagnetdan_, pretty sure. could be wrong?16:52
dan_oh i see.16:52
BoxMagnet!dualvideo16:52
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about dualvideo16:53
isaac_Alsa update wont work. I've clicked on everything and it wont compile.....16:53
SPhcTBoxMagnet denied because ntfs is in use...16:53
BoxMagnetdan_, ubuntu is probably confused lol16:53
HajuuHey guys, is there a dedicated channel for ubuntu cloud server distro?16:53
BoxMagnetSPhcT, what are you trying to do exactly.16:53
conb123SphcT: Oh of course i forgot to mention the mount point16:53
dan_i'll try it right now, and i'll be back to let you know what happens.16:53
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conb123SphcT: Just do something like sudo mkdir /media/disk, then do sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /media/disk -o force16:54
SPhcTconb123 what is mount point?16:54
isaac_Alsa update wont work. I've clicked on everything and it wont compile.....16:54
SPhcTok16:54
BoxMagnetconb123, -o force is no longer used16:54
ZykoticK9SPhcT, don't do the "/sudo mkdir /media/disk" that's where the automounter mounts things - you don't want directories in there.  use /mnt instead.16:54
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BoxMagnetconb123,        force  This mount option is not used anymore. It was superseded by  the16:55
BoxMagnet              recover and norecover options.16:55
Hajuuso ill take you guys silence as "I've never even heard of ubuntu cloud server let alone having a seperate room" ?16:55
conb123BoxMagnet: It was oh right16:55
preecherHajuu,  there is a ubuntu server channel16:55
isaac_Alsa update wont work. I've clicked on everything and it wont compile.....16:55
PiciHajuu: #ubuntu-server16:55
ZykoticK9Hajuu, as in #ubuntu-server16:55
Hajuuthanks Pici, preecher, ZykoticK916:55
BoxMagnetisaac_, clicked? you must compile from command line16:56
SPhcThei i accesed it ty for all your help16:56
BoxMagnetisaac_, cd to source dir, ./configure && make && sudo make install16:56
SPhcTZykotick9 i run live cd so anyways for short time16:56
SPhcTconb123 ok i did it tywm16:57
ZykoticK9SPhcT, in that case - go for it - won't make a difference after you reboot then :)16:57
hetOrakelhi, i've a strange problem. wireless networking works perfectly fine, but after a boot i often have to disable en re-enable networking before it connects, onyone got a clue?16:58
prarageisaac_: try this http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2009/05/09/upgrade-alsa-1020-on-ubuntu-jaunty-904/16:58
BarthCiaooo16:59
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Sivikanyone install ubuntu on a hp mini?  I cannot get it to boot from usb17:00
ArasTalol17:00
belihi there, i have problems compiling postfix on ubuntu jaunty; mkmap_open.c:90: error: expected expression before >>static<<17:00
ArasTahey guys17:01
Barthc'e' qualcuno italiano a cui rivolgere qualche domanda17:01
Pici!it | Barth17:01
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ubottuBarth: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)17:01
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ArasTaguys ...how to share files with my XP as guest on vbox ?17:01
belii fetched sources with apt-get build-deps postfix   and get this error using make makefiles.......i want to setup some more config options...but it also fails with plain make makefiles17:01
jribArasTa: did you check out the vbox documentation?  It has pretty explicit directions17:02
ArasTajrib, nope17:02
jrib!source > beli17:02
ubottubeli, please see my private message17:02
Floydyou have to install guest additions17:02
jribArasTa: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/UserManual.html#sharedfolders17:02
Floydarasta, you have to install guest additions on your virtual machine17:03
isaac_does anyone know of a good netbook where everything just works with ubuntu?17:03
jribbeli: that should tell you the proper way to rebuild a package17:03
rskisaac_: there's some that comes with linux pre-installed, that's a good bet :p17:03
belijrib: i dit it that way17:03
ArasTaFloyd, i did install the gest additions17:03
datzZykoticK9, thanks.. "sleep 10; gnome-screenshot" worked awesome17:04
isaac_the only netbooks i've seen are dells with version 8.xx17:04
jribbeli: then you need to give the channel more details.  Pastebin exactly what you are doing (commands you run, edits you made)17:04
ArasTa=| jrib, Floyd in fact i want to ping from my ubuntu to my guest xp17:04
ArasTausing vbox17:04
ZykoticK9datz, :) glad it worked for ya - it works for me too ;)17:04
ArasTaso how to do that ?17:04
Floydthen you have to share via samba your linux folders17:04
BoxMagnethow can simple backup work in ubuntu when it copies /usr/bin but not the programs inside???????17:05
jribArasTa: I gave you specific directions to read, did you read them?17:05
belijrib: i am following the postfixvirtual tutorial....http://www.postfixvirtual.net/postfixvirtual.html17:05
ArasTajrib, i've to read all that ??17:05
jribArasTa: yeah 2 minutes worth of reading isn't going to kill you...17:06
duffydackisaac_, Ive got a dell mini 9 that works fine.. its got 9.10 NBR at the moment..17:06
ZykoticK9BoxMagnet, look into copying with recursive feature enabled.  mv does this automatically but copy (cp) does not - if that's what command you're using.  good luck.17:06
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duffydackisaac_, it came with dells ubuntu 8.0417:06
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ArasTajrib, why dont' u just give me command to use17:06
ArasTa?17:06
tkotdalguien habla español???17:06
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belijrib: i build everything under /usr/local/src   but compiling postfix fails...w/ and w/o  configure options...also with adjusted mysql lib/includes -I17:07
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ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pici17:07
Pici|v|istic`|v|eg: Please stop that.17:07
jribbeli: then you need to give the channel more details.  Pastebin exactly what you are doing (commands you run, edits you made)17:07
tkotdgracias ubottu17:07
BoxMagnetZykoticK9, no its, simple backup suite, a gui for sbackup17:07
isaac_i mean if something came with 8.xx will it run good with the latest version of ubuntu?17:07
ArasTajrib, ok17:07
BoxMagnetZykoticK9, it has a list of packages, but why not just copy the /usr/bin/files17:07
Ag0Xhello17:07
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duffydackisaac_, it was 8.04 because 8.10 was still new and 8.04 is an LTS.. dell supply their own repo and updates17:08
belijrib: i've done exactly what the tutorial says...17:08
Ag0Xneed some help monodevelop2 not stoping on breakpoints17:08
Ag0Xanyone can help me please +17:08
duffydackisaac_, and yes its fine with newer ubuntus.. Ive had 8.10, 9.04 and now 9.10 on it with no problems..17:08
Floydarasta, tell me exactly what you want to do and if i can i will help you17:08
icerootAg0X: #mono maybe17:08
jribbeli: I don't find a singe mention of dpkg or apt in the page you linked, so you are doing it wrong then.17:08
ZykoticK9BoxMagnet, sorry don't know anything about sbackup - though you'd written a simple script for backup and cp might have been giving you troubles.  hope someone else knows.17:08
Ag0Xiceroot: thanks17:08
ArasTaFloyd, i want ping from my Ubuntu to my XP ..with XP is installed on vbox17:09
belijrib: i just fetched the sources via apt-get source postfix and apt-get build-dep postfix17:09
BoxMagnetZykoticK9, i might be writing one soon......17:09
ArasTathat's all17:09
duffydackisaac_, I dont know about any other makes of netbook, this is my first... had it a while17:09
belijrib: anything else has been done like the tutorial17:09
isaac_cool well if i can't get the new alsa working right now i'll just go get one of those other laptops instead17:09
jribbeli: pastebin what *you* actually did.  I have to go though17:09
isaac_thanks all17:09
HardDisknetbook os's include easy peasy, kuki linux, crunchbang17:09
belithats what i did...fetched the sources and entered the commands from the tutorial17:10
Hajuu<isaac_> cool well if i can't get the new alsa working right now i'll just go get one of those other laptops instead17:10
Hajuuwtf kind of solution is that17:10
prarageisaac_: which version of alsa are you running?17:10
beliso why repaste it...its exactly the same17:10
BoxMagnetHardDisk, what lol17:10
HardDisk:)17:10
ZykoticK9BoxMagnet, typically /usr/bin (and /usr/local/bin/ ) aren't high priorities for backup for me personally - i'm more interested in the packages then the binaries themselves.  best of luck.17:10
HardDiskI'm just advertising ubuntu derivatives.17:10
jribbeli: well that tutorial has you compiling a bunch of things you don't need to compile.  You did that?17:10
BoxMagnetZykoticK9, will the packages run without the binaries !?17:10
isaac_im running the 1.9 something something version17:10
BoxMagnetZykoticK9, am i missing something17:10
HajuuYeah17:10
Hajuubackup packages17:11
Floydwait i will try it17:11
belijrib: sure...all under /usr/local and installed it....worked like a charme up to compiling postfix17:11
Hajuunot bin files17:11
dan_hello again.  i found another solution to the video problem.  i chose safe video mode (i should have looked a little harder the first time)17:11
isaac_i need the 1.20 version to make my mic work17:11
BoxMagnetHajuu, im using sbackup17:11
ZykoticK9BoxMagnet, if you have a DEB for a program (that's something i personally backup)17:11
Hajuuyou will have so much problems with backing up your bin files.17:11
jribbeli: well that's kind of dumb.  You're circumventing APT why?17:11
HajuuTheres no reason for it17:11
Hajuuthe packages install the binaries17:11
Hajuuplus all their requirements17:11
cowgardenHardDisk, what is Easy Peasy like nowadays? :) it became obsolet when the current ubuntu netbook remix launched17:11
HardDiskif you want to make a redistributable copy of your installation files, use Remastersys17:11
BoxMagnetthe program maintains a list of packages to install17:11
Hajuuthus the point of a package manager17:11
BoxMagnetdoes it use the internet?17:11
BoxMagnetor my actual files in the .tar.gz it made17:11
HardDiskcowgarden, mmmm it's ok..Im running UNR 9.10 now17:11
belijrib: because i want to make sure that postfix has all build inside what i need17:12
cowgardenHardDisk, any advantages for EEE users?17:12
BoxMagnetim getting a new HD soon for my server but i dont want to reconfigure it17:12
lifesenginecould someone with a perfectly working audacity music recorder please private message me?17:12
jribbeli: so why wouldn't you use APT...17:12
belijrib: and just that...not more and not less....i dont like bloated daemons17:12
HardDiskcowgarden custom kernel basically.17:12
dan_i have another problem, though.  Ubuntu doesn't seem to detect my RAID.  it wants to single out one of my mirrored hard drives for partitioning and formatting.17:12
HajuuA new hdd doesnt require a reinstall at all17:12
Hajuu:/17:12
Hajuuyou can just clone your drive17:12
Hajuueasy peasy.17:12
FloodBot3Hajuu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.17:12
BoxMagnetHajuu, can you open a PM  ??17:12
cowgardenHardDisk, so it still boots faster? the old custom kernel was slower than the current standard one17:12
jribbeli: we're not talking about the daemon, we're talking about the dependencies you compiled, like berkeleydb17:12
BoxMagneti need assistance lol17:13
belijrib: and i want to follow that tutorial...i just used apt to fetch sources...i could have also used wget or lynx....so whats wrong with it?#17:13
HardDiskuse Back in Time if you want to backup yoru /home dir etc...use Remastersys to create your custom iso installation dvd based on what you have installed on your system.17:13
HajuuI'm kind of busy sorry, but theres many many tools for it17:13
HajuuHardDisk: you might want to check out hirens boot cd17:13
Hajuuor ultimate boot cd17:13
HardDiskcowgarden yes it boots faster, also its meant as a "general" netbook os now, not just eeepc specific.17:13
ZykoticK9BoxMagnet, backup the source code then the tar.gz file - keep that17:13
Hajuuhas a copy of norton ghost on there, you can use it to very easilly clone a drive17:13
sping476is there a way to make apt-get re-install all packages?  (i have been trying to mix debian and ubuntu and ran into runtime link errors)17:13
cybershockHello all17:13
HardDiskHajuu I know hiren...its old and useless for me nowadays.17:13
BoxMagnet!backup17:13
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning17:13
HardDiski used hirencd ever since it first came out17:13
Hajuumeh its really not useless.17:13
Hajuuthe point is that its low level.17:14
HardDiski mean useless for ME17:14
Hajuuand comes with a plethora of software17:14
ZykoticK9BoxMagnet, and any config files from that program17:14
Hajuulike ghost.17:14
Hajuuwell, ghost does exactly what you need17:14
HardDiskdont need ghost anymore17:14
* beli detex hiren and ubcd are well done stuff17:14
Hajuubut if you say so17:14
duffydackclonezilla ftw17:14
Hajuucool17:14
HardDiskdd :)17:14
FloodBot3Hajuu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.17:14
BoxMagnetsupergrubdisk17:14
cowgardenHardDisk, yeah i know :) guess I'm to lazy to reinstall and the ubuntu updates delay so much with such a derivate. I'll stick to ubuntu/moblin dualboot. thx for the infos :917:14
cowgarden:)17:14
BoxMagnetis awesome too17:14
cybershockDoes anyone know how to get the default network manager to work again in ubuntu 9.04? I had wicd installed and then I removed it and now I have no network access.17:14
Hajuuthen you already know how to do it, obviously.17:14
jribbeli: anyway, I'd recommend you undo everything you did, install the depencies using apt (which you said you did anyway with apt-get build-dep), read how to properly rebuild a deb package (/msg ubottu !source), edit the source package to your needs, then rebuild the package like ubottu said to17:14
HardDiskyes17:14
BoxMagnetcan i use DD to copy the old hd to the new17:15
HardDiskyes17:15
BoxMagnetlike keep the old as master,boot it, and dd the old HD to the new17:15
HardDiskyes17:15
BoxMagnetwill it then be bootable easy peasy?17:15
ZykoticK9cybershock, for starters try running "nm-applet" from a terminal.17:15
nathan7Yes.17:15
HardDiskyes17:15
* nathan7 boces BoxMagnet 17:15
BoxMagnetboces?17:15
HardDisklol17:15
jribbeli: and then if you get errors, say exactly where and include exactly what you modified in the source package17:16
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cybershockok cool I will try that. thanks for your help17:16
BoxMagnetmy point being i just realized, with the backup. id have to install ubuntu. then run the backup program17:16
BoxMagnetthat would take forever17:16
BoxMagnetor i could just use dd17:16
Hajuuuse a live cd17:16
Hajuuinnit17:16
belijrib: i know what you think i am doing wrong...i am not going to mix up the system packages...i want all the stuff under /usr/local/src and build debian packages out of them...and tell apt-get to not touch that packages afterwards17:16
HardDiski would use a livecd, dd one hd to the other hd17:16
HardDiskvoila17:16
BoxMagnetwhy live-cd17:16
jribbeli: yeah, I think that's silly17:16
BoxMagnetso nothing mounted?17:16
jribbeli: you won't get updates from apt for any of that stuff17:17
Hajuulol well there you go, problem solved.17:17
fahadsadahid returns no such user17:17
fahadsadahUsing nss_ldap17:17
Hajuuso you dont have to install ubuntu first17:17
belijrib: i dont want uopdates17:17
Hajuulike you said, thats the pain.17:17
fahadsadahI straced it, and found it isn't contacting the server.17:17
fahadsadahIdeas?17:17
HardDiskthat's just how i prefer to do things when i clone17:17
BoxMagnetsounds like a plan guys17:17
belijrib: i dont want updates for the packages i will use for the mailer stuff17:17
HardDiskyep17:17
BoxMagnetcant wait for the new sata drive.17:17
jribbeli: then you don't even have an ubuntu question17:17
HardDiskme too17:17
BoxMagnetHardDisk, ud like it, its a WDC 320gb 16mb cache sataII 7200rpm17:17
BoxMagnetHardDisk, isnt he ur uncle?17:17
HardDiskmmmmmm sexy17:18
BoxMagnetlol.17:18
eguest039hello guys17:18
Hajuusexy? those are like, the cheapest drives available17:18
belijrib: maybe...maybe not...17:18
Hajuufor servres17:18
BoxMagnethaha, it was cheap! thats why i got it17:18
eguest039got htis small error with my start up script17:18
Hajuuservers*17:18
BoxMagnetHajuu, yea17:18
BoxMagnetits a nice drive though. good reviews from newegg17:18
HardDiskBoxmagnet its that easy dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb17:18
BoxMagnetbought it from amazon for 34 dollars.17:18
HardDisksda being your source and sdb destination17:18
cghello. can the  title bar of the windows be set transparent ?17:18
eguest039a17:18
BoxMagnetHardDisk, that copies byte for byte yes17:19
fahadsadah!compizfusion | cg17:19
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about compizfusion17:19
belijrib: i really dont think distribution, i think linux.....on #postfix someone flamed me because i am using ubuntu for source stuff....where are we?!17:19
HardDiskyes17:19
fahadsadah!compiz | cg17:19
ubottucg: Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz17:19
Hajuuyeah17:19
BoxMagnetHardDisk, perfect, then i get rid of the old ide17:19
HardDiskthen you can use gparted later on to resize17:19
BoxMagnetand throw it in the dumpster17:19
Hajuuman its hard to talk in here17:19
HardDiskwell dont throw it17:19
BoxMagnetHardDisk, i will need to resize yes17:19
Hajuuyeah dont throw it :/17:19
thijs_how to resume a crashed update from cli17:19
HardDiskgive it to anyone who can use it for parts17:19
Hajuuuse it as a media drive17:19
eguest039bin bash bad interpretor no such file or directory17:19
HardDiskuse it as a temp drive17:19
BoxMagnetHardDisk, OO i got a celeron 500mhz im going to use purely for music17:19
HardDiskuse it as a door stopper17:19
BoxMagnetthrow that drive in there17:19
Hajuulol17:19
fahadsadaheguest039: sudo aptitude install bash17:19
HardDiskwell there you go17:19
jribbeli: in any case you can't be helped if you don't pastebin exactly what you are doing.  You aren't even using anything ubuntu the way you are doing it.  You might as well just use the tar.gz and go back to postfix (all the ubuntu-specific stuff is in the debian/ folder anyway)17:19
BoxMagnetits 20g thats enough for ubuntu server +mplayer command line17:20
cgfahadsadah: any other way ?17:20
fahadsadahcg: No.17:20
HardDiskor you can make your own ubuntu mirror17:20
daevskiIs Apache all I need to start a file server?17:20
HardDiskyou need about 80gigs i think17:20
fahadsadahDoes anyone here know about NSS?17:20
fahadsadahOr LDAP?17:20
HardDiskand provide ubuntu updates to your neighborhood :)17:20
belijrib: ok you got at least my point....i dont want to use apt for the udpate stuff of the postfix mailer17:20
ZykoticK9BoxMagnet, see #ubuntu-server -- but ya - i run most of my server vm's in 8g17:20
BoxMagnetHardDisk, i do have like 10mb upload speed now from comcast.17:20
grawityfahadsadah: Wrong channel to ask.17:21
daevskiAnyone have a tutorial on making File Server on Ubuntu Desktop Edition?17:21
eguest039aptitude says bash is installed17:21
sdwragehow do you open an application through terminal without the terminal holding a dependency on that app?17:21
belijrib: but ubuntu is linux and i can install/compile sources on it, build packages like i want...thats because its linux!17:21
HardDiskapp &17:21
linny&17:21
BoxMagnetHardDisk, its a celeron 500mhz with 128mb ram. 2x64mb lol, not server material17:21
Hajuulol17:21
Hajuuthats called daemonizing it17:21
belijrib: it may not be the ubuntu way...but thats on another hand17:21
HardDiskwell yea17:21
sping476is there a way to make apt-get re-install all packages?17:21
dan_Ubuntu doesn't seem to detect my RAID.  it wants to single out one of my mirrored hard drives for partitioning and formatting.  anyone have any ideas?17:21
BoxMagnetHajuu, i like screen -d -m -S name /usr/bin/app17:22
sdwragehow do you open an application through terminal without the terminal holding a dependency on that app?17:22
HardDisksping476 i think you need to run sudo apt-get install -f17:22
Hajuuer17:22
cgpwd17:22
cgls17:22
HardDiskif you're having problems17:22
thijs_how to resume a crashed update from cli(i ran sudo do-release-upgrade), but it crashed on installing fonts. is there anyway to resume the distro upgrade? (upping from 8.10 to 9.0417:22
Hajuuit doesnt work at all like using screen.17:22
Hajuulol17:22
BoxMagnetwhat17:22
BoxMagnetwhat doesn't17:22
HardDiskhe means F217:22
Hajuudaemonizing. I was talking to HardDisk17:22
BoxMagneto17:22
HardDiskyea demons17:22
daevskisping476: you can use Package Manger (no filter) and go through the list.... marking them for re-install :-\17:22
erUSULsdwrage: nohup app &17:22
daevskisping476: Might not be ideal, but it's a way...17:22
Hajuudaemons != Demons.. At least I hope not :o17:22
erUSULdan_: bios raid ?17:22
dan_yes17:23
erUSUL!fakeraid | dan_17:23
ubottudan_: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto17:23
Hajuusping476: Not exactly. You can use dpkg17:23
erUSULdan_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto17:23
daevskiIs Apache all I need to start a file server?17:23
BoxMagnetOK so my girl was driving home and the AXLE of the car fell out17:23
Hajuusping476 I think its like, dpkg --reconfigure --force-all *17:23
preecherim using ubuntu 9.04--i just dload an install KDE desktop--is there a way when i boot up it ask me which i wanna boot to--gnome or kde? now it shows the kde splash screen but boots into gnome but under applications i have kde programs listed17:23
sping476Hajuu: dpkg is fine, too. how make i dpkg do it?17:23
grawitydaevski: Technically, Apache is a _web server_... but yes, it's enough.17:23
Hajuusping476: check out 'man dpkg', it's all in there17:23
erUSULdaevski: samba or nfs are used to serve files17:24
dan_okay, thank you guys.17:24
erUSULdaevski: apache is a web server17:24
BoxMagneterUSUL, ssh too17:24
meaniefacepreecher: if you go into gdmsetup you can turn off automatic login17:24
Hajuudaevski: yeah you can share files easilly with apache :)17:24
grawityBoxMagnet: ssh is for remote shell access - file transfers is a secondary feature.17:24
HajuuIf configured correctly17:25
daevskigrawity, ty // erUSUL: What app would I use to assign logins, etc? (Samba is installed)17:25
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Hajuulol not apache, thats for sure.17:25
erUSUL!samba | daevski17:25
ubottudaevski: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.17:25
daevskiHajuu -- what app might I use to manage logins, etc?17:25
sping476Hajuu: can you help me out with it, the man page is quite confusing to me17:25
Darkomenwhat application that can connect my friends to my computer?17:25
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preechermeanieface, is  that a terminal program17:25
Darkomenjust like a root?17:25
BoxMagnetgrawity, it works better than samba17:26
Darkomena shell17:26
datzDarkomen, ssh?17:26
grawityBoxMagnet: Wouldn't say so.17:26
BoxMagnetgrawity, much more secure too17:26
meaniefacepreecher: you can launch it from terminal yes sudo gdmsetup17:26
Darkomendatz yeaps17:26
Hajuusping476: to us all, dpkg is horrible. Thus why aptitude and stuff came along17:26
preechermeanieface, thx17:26
grawityBoxMagnet: Security is the only advantage of SFTP over samba or nfs.17:26
Hajuusping476: you could do it with aptitude or synaptic, just be careful17:26
isolatedsh33phey peeps17:26
datzDarkomen, is that what you were looking for?17:26
BoxMagnetgrawity, hm, documentation?17:26
daevskiHajuu, grawity, erUSUL -- Thanks guys17:26
Hajuusping476: go into sort by status, click installed, select all, right click, and there should be an option like reconfigure17:27
HajuuI believe17:27
damian_Hello I have a question to the developers on Ubuntu. I´am about to install the latest beta of 9.10 on my desktop PC. Will I need to reinstall my system when the full version comes out?17:27
isolatedsh33phello17:27
Darkomendatz> Darkomen, is that what you were looking for? -> yes. just like making my computer a server17:27
toefurim getting very frustrated with vdpau17:27
Darkomenthat can connect or upload/download some files with my friend17:27
datz Darkomen, ok. Install openssh-server17:28
u42phi, i could use some help with vpnc. i want to use the vpn only to access a certain ip (range would be fine too) and not route all my traffic through it. the manual says "IPSEC target network <target network/netmask>". i have the ip i want to access but no idea about the netmask. also do i have to make the last byte of the ip a 0?17:28
isolatedsh33pdoes everyone have slow internet in ubuntu?17:28
toefurhow can i get rid of it all and restart from clean17:28
meaniefaceisolatedsh33p: nope17:28
datz Darkomen, open port 22. No, use sftp for files17:28
isolatedsh33pi got slow internet connection17:28
BoxMagnetu42p, netmask probably 255.255.255.017:28
isolatedsh33pi'm not sure how to solve this17:28
isolatedsh33pT_T17:28
rskisolatedsh33p: Wlan or wired?17:28
isolatedsh33pwlan17:29
rskisolatedsh33p: right, so the driver is likely not as good as in windows.17:29
rskisolatedsh33p: what ubuntu version are you using?17:29
isolatedsh33pjaunty jackalope17:29
isolatedsh33p9.0417:29
rskok you can always try a newer driver.. um17:29
sping476Hajuu: i thought you were speaking of dpkg. as gdm freezes for me i have a shell only17:29
isolatedsh33pi solved compiz17:29
rskhttp://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.32-rc5/17:30
isolatedsh33pi'm not sure which driver17:30
rskinstall that and pick it at boot, if there's not improvement just remove it and use the old one17:30
rskisolatedsh33p: no need to worry about it, it will work without confiing17:30
ZuzOnline anyone know of a good open source customizable report platform17:30
ZuzOnlinesomething where i could make my own fields and post status between 2 offices17:30
HajuuCrystalReports.17:30
isolatedsh33pits so slow rite now that i need to go back to XP17:31
HajuuThats one of the industry standards, ZuzOnline17:31
ZuzOnlinecool17:31
isolatedsh33pmy device is atheros17:31
ZuzOnlinei could get 2 offices to post status of clients17:31
ZuzOnline?17:31
rskZuzOnline: what status do you want?17:32
Hajuu:/17:32
ZuzOnlinewe got a few law offices17:32
Hajuuthats hardly relevant.17:32
isolatedsh33p...17:32
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rsk:o17:32
ZuzOnlinesorry im used to type in small lines, give me a second and ill explain  :)17:33
* rsk get's pacman to do the dirt work on isolatedsh33p's ....'s17:33
toefuranybody know how i can remove vdpau altogether and restart from scratch without reinstalling the whole system17:33
isolatedsh33pO.o17:33
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rskwakka wakka wakka!17:33
meaniefaceisolatedsh33p: there is a secondary driver for atheros in the gnomme settings17:33
meaniefaceisolatedsh33p: since i haven't used gnome in ages, i know its int he menu somewhere in system17:34
rsksystem >administration>hardware drivers?17:34
rskor were you refering to something else17:34
ZuzOnlinewe have 3 offices and we all send files to 1 main office, this office is supposed to report to us about every part of file they receive for each client, but they pretty much just do a word doc and update the file every few days and email us... im looking for something live where i can make the fields and pw and have it on a web17:34
isolatedsh33pnothing there17:34
toefurwhere can i go to talk about vdpau?17:34
isolatedsh33pbesides fglrx17:34
rsktoefur: in what app are you trying to use vdpau?17:35
rskisolatedsh33p: try the new kernel, it's very easy17:35
toefurmplayer17:35
isolatedsh33pwhich one?17:35
isolatedsh33p9.10?17:35
toefuri know there is a compiled mplayer with vdpau...17:35
rsktoefur: pastebin _full_ output of mplayer file in #mplayer17:35
preecherive searched the gdmsetup and i am unable to locate anything that gives me a choice of what to boot into17:35
rskisolatedsh33p: no the link i gave you with few .debs17:36
epaphusHello, iam installing ubuntu base only with the minimal CD... Ive gone through all the steps .. but after It asks me if I want to install packages I hit no.. but then it downloads 136 files.. anybody know what they are?17:36
toefurhow do i do that?17:36
rsktoefur: open up a terminal17:36
ZuzOnlineso for example, Client A has the power of attorneys, birth certificates, but needs declarations, 3rd payment is done on date xx/xx/xx, process due date xx/xx/xx17:36
toefurk17:36
rskwrite mplayer nameofthefile17:36
rskcopy all output to pastebin.com17:36
rsklink the resulting link in #mplayer17:37
toefurso "write mplayer"?17:37
isolatedsh33pomg, i lost the link D:17:37
torsten_Hallo, teste das erste mal dieses Programm17:37
HajuuZuzOnline: Quit wasting time and just check out crystalreports.17:37
meaniefaceisolatedsh33p: if you go into gnome-control-center17:37
rsk!de | torsten_17:37
ubottutorsten_: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.17:37
ZuzOnlinei did17:37
ZuzOnlineits not open source17:37
ZuzOnline:(17:37
Hajuuwell, its open source.17:37
meaniefaceisolatedsh33p: and click on hardware drivers, there isn't a secondary alternate "madwifi" driver?17:37
Hajuubut its an enterprise solution17:38
Hajuufor a law firm, you want an enterprise solution17:38
Hajuuobviously.17:38
ZuzOnlinethat looks pretty awesome17:38
sven_oostenbrinkWhen trying apt-get purge package, I get this error: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal.... How do I do this? I checked man apt-get but it gives -reinstall as an option, but that doesn't work either.. how can I get rid of this package?17:38
isolatedsh33psry meanieface, i'm not in ubuntu now..17:38
ZuzOnlineyeah Hajuu you are right, the software seems like its what i need, problem is that this goes to different countries and cash is an issue as of right now17:38
torsten_Hallo17:39
isolatedsh33pi just reboot to XP since the slow internet17:39
torsten_Hier auc jemand da der deutsch spricht?17:39
isolatedsh33pand i dont know how to use src in ubuntu (^^ ")17:39
sven_oostenbrink!de | torsten_17:39
mikubuntuhola guys.  i never used bittorrent b4, but i have several clients installed on my laptop.  i am trying to download Star Wreck the Complete Saga from isohunt.com, but when i try to open the link the client doesnt do anything.  am i missing the knowledge somewhere?17:39
ubottutorsten_: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.17:39
sping476torsten_: ja, aber du bist hier im falschen chennel17:39
torsten_Ok, danke17:40
Hajuumikubuntu: Piracy is illegal.17:40
Hajuumikubuntu: I have reported your IP to the RIAA and to your ISP17:40
sven_oostenbrinkHajuu: really.. really want to start that discussion over here? :)17:40
Hajuumikubuntu: Expect a letter of cease and decist within a few days.17:40
sven_oostenbrinkHajuu: dear god...17:40
isolatedsh33pguys, how to use irc in ubuntu?17:41
Hajuuisolatedsh33p: xchat17:41
llutz!ot| Hajuu17:41
ubottuHajuu: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!17:41
Hajuuor irssi17:41
sping476Hajuu: i thought you were here to help people, wtf17:41
isolatedsh33pi don't have that i think17:41
sven_oostenbrinkisolatedsh33p: try xchat or (if you use KDE) quassel or konversation..17:41
HajuuI was answering his illegal question llutz17:41
isolatedsh33pi'm using gnome17:41
HajuuXchat then17:41
Hajuuxchat = the mirc of linux17:41
HexTasy_what was illegal?17:41
sven_oostenbrinkisolatedsh33p: xchat17:41
HexTasy_fail reading skills <--17:41
isolatedsh33pwait, google..17:42
HexTasy_oh i see it17:42
HajuuHexTasy_: "<mikubuntu> hola guys.  i never used bittorrent b4, but i have several clients installed on my laptop.  i am trying to download Star Wreck the Complete Saga"...17:42
Hajuuetc etc17:42
Hajuulol17:42
HajuuI didnt really report him17:42
Hajuuyou guys just ruined my fun17:42
Hajuuway to go.17:42
FloodBot3Hajuu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.17:42
Guest14572tengo una geforce 9400gt 1g y no consigo hacer funcionar el compiz y no se por que e instalado los driver privativos que bienen en ubuntu y nada de nada17:42
HexTasy_lol, I just didn't want to miss out on the fun17:42
isolatedsh33pits not in the package right?17:42
HexTasy_I was luling17:42
isolatedsh33pi mean xchat17:42
Hajuuerm, something very similar to xchat17:43
Hajuujust do: apt-cache search xchat17:43
sven_oostenbrinkWhen trying apt-get purge package, I get this error: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal.... How do I do this? I checked man apt-get but it gives -reinstall as an option, but that doesn't work either.. how can I get rid of this package?17:43
thiebaudeGuest14572, system-administration-hardware drivers17:43
isolatedsh33pok.. ok.. thanx..17:43
meaniefacesven_oostenbrink: sudo apt-get purge17:43
isolatedsh33pi'm goin to reboot now.. *sighs*17:43
sven_oostenbrinkmeanieface: which gives me hte error I just described...17:43
sven_oostenbrinkisolatedsh33p: don't be so sad...17:44
meaniefacesven_oostenbrink: lmao sorry man17:44
sven_oostenbrinkmeanieface: imao?17:44
sandyd80Anyone able to help...my ubuntu i broke, i get as far as a blank desktop with the mouse pointer and it seems to get stuck there, how do i go about troubleshooting this_17:44
Jenniferhello all.  My ubuntu freezes seemingly random, version 9.0417:44
JenniferI'm sitting in front of a frozen PC right now17:44
Jenniferany suggestions how to find out what the problem is?17:45
rskJennifer: find out if it's due to overheating17:45
thiebaudeJennifer, which graphics card?17:45
Jenniferrsk....sensors show cpu at 44C17:45
ZuzOnlineso hajuu, do you know of anything like that but open source?17:45
Jenniferthiebaude...good question...if i remember correctly its Nvidia17:45
erUSULJennifer: check the various log files under /var/log/ (messages syslog kernel.log )17:45
HexTasy_heh17:45
HexTasy_good thing to know17:45
thiebaudeJennifer, ok17:45
HajuuZuzOnline: you mean free, not opensource.17:45
HexTasy_ati is :X17:45
HajuuIt IS opensource.17:46
HajuuYou recieve the source when you buy it.17:46
JennifererUSUL...going to reboot and look into the logs17:46
Jenniferbrb17:46
thiebaudeJennifer, dual-boot?17:46
Jenniferthiebaude....no, clean installed ubuntu only17:46
Jennifercontrol-alt-f1 not responding17:47
thiebaudeJennifer, did you use live cd and just try ubuntu without installing to see if it works17:47
Jenniferneither is control/alt/backspace17:47
Jenniferthiebaude....intially yes17:47
sandyd80Anyone able to help...my ubuntu i broke, i get as far as a blank desktop with the mouse pointer and it seems to get stuck there, how do i go about troubleshooting this_17:47
Jenniferso thats why i installed17:47
thiebaudeJennifer, right17:48
sven_oostenbrinkCould anybody take a look at this one? How can I fix this apt-get problem I cant remove, purge, reinstall or just install the package anymore :( http://pastebin.com/m55803a4e17:48
thiebaudeJennifer, and then you went through the install process?17:48
Jenniferand the irritating thing is, when this happens it forces a chdsk17:48
Jenniferand sometimes i have to manually do it17:48
Jennifer"unclean shutdown"17:49
whatelse#test17:49
HexTasy_bad memory perhaps Jennifer?17:49
ZuzOnlineHajuu freeware is good  :)17:49
meaniefacesven_oostenbrink: dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq <yourpackagehere>17:49
JenniferHexTasy....did memtest before installing...bought them from a friend out of working PC, tested there and here...memtest8617:50
wrapsteri have a motorola phone that is not properly mounting on ubuntu...would this be the right channel to ask such ques?17:50
sven_oostenbrinkmeanieface:  wohoo! Seems to do the trick! :)17:51
meaniefacesven_oostenbrink: nice :)17:51
HexTasy_Jennifer: well if you've ran memtest for a few hours (4 or more) you'd rule out bad memory, and overheating at the same time more than likely.17:51
JenniferHexTasy...left it running overnight17:51
meaniefacewrapster: what are you trying to get it to work with?17:51
wrapstermeanieface: just as any other USB media17:52
HexTasy_my next guess is funky modules or a bad config somewhere.  all packages up to date?17:52
erUSULJennifer: when the look up happens do the leds of the keyboard start blinking ?17:52
wrapsteri can hear that connecting sound the phone makes..17:52
JenniferHextasy...as for overheating graphics...i can swap cards with an ATI17:52
JennifererUSUL...no17:52
wrapsterbut after that df -h does not show it to be mounted17:52
HexTasy_Jennifer: you're much better off with nvidia17:52
meaniefacewrapster: have you tried bitpim?17:52
HexTasy_get teh latest drivers from nvidia.com17:53
wrapstermeanieface: no17:53
JennifererUSUL...i can't do anything....keyboard locked.  Caps wont light up.  Numberlock wont light up when pressed17:53
erUSULJennifer: well we can rule out a "kernel panic" then :)17:53
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JennifererUSUL...what does that mean?17:53
JennifererUSUL...is my case worse than "kernel panic"17:53
HajuuSounds more like your classic code 102 to me; Woman using a computer.17:53
HexTasy_kernel panics don't always alert via keyboard if you don't have that enabled17:54
clearscreenhar har17:54
sven_oostenbrinkmeanieface: hint: Don't EVER do an apt-get install sun-blah-jre over ssh and then when the license question is there, you loose connection.. it made a serious mess..17:54
JenniferHajuu...sounds like you need to get out more17:54
preecheri downloaded the kde--i dont want it because it wont boot into it--can i delete the kde and not affect my gnome or do i need to do a reinstall17:54
erUSULJennifer: not likely; we can not know. Not enough info yet17:54
meaniefacesven_oostenbrink: thanks for the heads up hehe17:54
PiciHajuu: Thats is unwelcome here, please dont.17:54
HajuuJennifer: I'll tell that to the band I just spent 7 months on tour with17:54
thiebaudeHajuu, that wasn't right to say17:54
JennifererUSUL...let me pull up the logs, reboot finished17:54
Hajuukthx17:54
JennifererUSUL...kernel.log very long.17:56
preechercan i delete all the kde stuff without effecting gnome or do i need to reinstall altogether17:56
prince_jammyspreecher: yes, you don't need to reinstall17:57
erUSULJennifer: look from the end upwards. Looking for something odd17:57
mikubuntuhajuu, i am not pirating.  Star Wreck is an open source movie17:57
mikubuntuanyways, i 'saved' the torrent on my desktop, it says the file is 1.12 gb, and the icon showed up instantly on the desktop.  when i right click it gives me the option of three different clients to open with.  azureus seems to have some problem, runs a loop that says have to update the core, but it never completes, and the other one is just called 'transmission bittorrent client', and it does nothing either when i launch it.  sh17:57
meaniefacepreecher: kde is its own seperate window manager17:57
Harrison_BergeroerUSUL...ill pastebin it for you17:57
Hajuumikubuntu: Piracy is illegal.17:57
preecheri just dloaded it but it no work so i dont want it anymore17:57
HajuuDon't ask again.17:57
StaRetjiwhich service is responsible for automounting USB driver?17:57
mikubuntuhajuu, i am not pirating.  Star Wreck is an open source movie17:57
Hajuu...17:57
clearscreenHajuu:  take your trolling somewhere else17:57
HajuuNo it's not.17:57
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HajuuHuh.17:57
HajuuI'm not trolling :/17:58
FloodBot3Hajuu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.17:58
HajuuWell, I was with Jennifer17:58
mikubuntuhajuu, i am not pirating.  Star Wreck is an open source movie17:58
spineneed help with volume on x50517:58
prince_jammysopen source movie, now there's a concept17:58
Hajuuheh17:58
Hajuu...17:58
Hajuumikubuntu: No, it's not. You are pirating. Deal with it.17:58
mikubuntulook it up, and then apologize17:58
StaRetjiwhich service is responsible for automounting USB DRIVES (typo)17:58
HajuuYou look it up, and prove it to me, and maybe ill help you.17:58
Harrison_BergeroerUSUL....here is the pastebin link  http://pastebin.com/m2c6ec69117:59
gavintlgoldprince_jammys,  http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/ ?17:59
mikubuntui don't have to prove anything to you.  wtf are you.17:59
meaniefacemikubuntu: "star wreck on dvd! order now"17:59
preechermeanieface or prince_jammys do you kno how i can delete it then17:59
JennifererUSUL...you've noticed im logged in twice17:59
erUSULHajuu: Star Wrek is a free movie you can distribute17:59
prince_jammysgavintlgold: what?17:59
mikubuntuyes, and you can buy open source operating systems on disk as well17:59
Hajuubigbuckbunny isnt an opensource movie. It's a demonstration of the rendering software Blender, released with a loose licence for publicities sake.17:59
meaniefacepreecher: you should just type in sudo apt-get remove kd317:59
meaniefacepreecher: sorry kde17:59
mikubuntumaybe you've heard of that?18:00
Hajuumikubuntu: Well we will not support your piracy. Good luck with it though18:00
erUSULHarrison_Bergero: is Jennifre's kernel.log ?18:00
gavintlgoldprince_jammys, that's an open source movie18:00
clearscreenEven if Star Wreck WASNT a free movie, it's perfectly legal to download copyrighted material in the Netherlands. Piracy != Illegality18:00
Harrison_BergeroerUSUL...yes18:00
prince_jammysgavintlgold: it has source code?18:00
JennifererUSUL...ya...logged in twice18:00
JennifererUSUL...this is a windows machine18:01
HajuuUh, its not perfectly legal to download copyrighted material in Netherlands. Otherwise Piratebay wouldnt have been in court for.. well.. years.18:01
prince_jammysgavintlgold: can I compile it?18:01
Harrison_BergeroerUSUL...this ubuntu18:01
HajuuIt's just a grayzone.18:01
meaniefacemikubuntu: for the record i've never heard of an "open source movie" ever18:01
clearscreenHajuu: wrong :)18:01
HajuuProve it :)18:01
cremetortei got a question. i got a bash script. it shall be executed when i switch to batery mode ...   is there any possibility18:01
gavintlgoldprince_jammys, you can download all the blender files and textures, etc18:01
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prince_jammysah18:01
clearscreenHajuu: piratebay is considered a supplier of copyrighted material.. actually DOWNLOADING it is legal18:01
sandyd80Anyone able to help...my ubuntu i broke, i get as far as a blank desktop with the mouse pointer and it seems to get stuck there, how do i go about troubleshooting this_18:01
PiciHajuu: Please stop.  This isnt the place to discuss such things and what mikubuntu is trying to download is advertized on their site18:01
Jennifercopywrite protection???   research Law Merchant for your remedy18:01
clearscreenHajuu: sure, let me look up the legislation, do you read dutch?18:01
gavintlgoldprince_jammys, so it is "open source"18:01
Pici!offtopic18:01
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!18:01
HajuuPici: To be honest, I doubt he is trying to download that.18:02
HajuuI think he is trying to pirate software!!18:02
Hajuu:o18:02
Hajuuclearscreen: I do, as it happens18:02
PiciHajuu: I don't care. Torrents aren't inherently illegal.18:02
mikubuntumeanieface, it is the first open source movie.  but open source, it is.18:02
HajuuWell it's great that you don't care.18:02
JennifererUSUL...the temp readings without flash in firefox are 40C18:02
erUSULJennifer: Harrison_Bergero nothing in there... what about syslog or messages ?18:02
meaniefacemikubuntu: then why not just click on the download link instead?18:03
Harrison_Bergerolooking18:03
sandyd80is anyoneseeing my support requests???18:03
rezdWould the ubuntu launch party be on topic?18:03
clearscreenHajuu: then I'm sure you've heard of brein :)18:03
Hajuusure.18:03
HajuuI think everyone has.18:03
JennifererUSUL..i have syslog and syslog.0 same with kernel18:03
MenZarezd: Nope, try #ubuntu-offtopic18:03
Jenniferwhat does that mean18:03
mikubuntubecause they prefer to sell the recorded dvd set at this time, and the producer referred me to download it from a torrent18:03
sandyd80testing18:04
PiciHajuu, clearscreen: Please stay on topic. This channel is for Ubuntu support.18:04
erUSULsandyd80: can you make a gues as to how ubuntu broke. it just happened? was becouse of an upgrade? a power cut ?18:04
clearscreenhttp://anti-piracy.nl/piraterij/faq.asp - "Volgens de Auteurswet mag iedereen, zonder voorafgaande toestemming van de auteur 'voor eigen oefening, studie of gebruik' zelf een kopie maken van bv. een cd, MP3-muziekbestand of film. Deze uitzondering geldt echter niet voor computerspellen en andere software."18:04
clearscreenI'll stop now :)18:04
Harrison_BergeroerUSUL...syslog link   http://pastebin.com/d421bc1b118:04
mohan1Hey guys! In my system xorg process consuming my cpu usage as a results it's effecting my system performance.18:04
erUSULJennifer: logs are rotated so they not get to big18:04
Hajuu[01:07] <Hajuu> We are supporting Ubuntu18:04
Hajuu[01:07] <Hajuu> By preventing piracy.18:04
Hajuu[01:07] <Hajuu> One star trek at a time!18:04
Hajuuanyway18:05
HajuuIll stop too18:05
Hajuuheh18:05
FloodBot3Hajuu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.18:05
Jenniferok..that makes sense18:05
mohan1suggest me the best solution for me.18:05
Jennifersyslog is the actual log and .0 is the last log before the crash?18:05
Sajjad68hello all, how can i see movie subtitles in ubuntu?18:05
erUSULJennifer: no is the last before the log rotation took place18:06
erUSULJennifer: logrotation happens in a cron job18:06
BodsdaHi, I have installed a lamp server and unziped phpbb3 but when I browse to localhost/phpBB3/install/index.php it attempts to download the file instead of displaying it. What am I doing wrong?18:06
erUSUL!info lofrotate18:06
sandyd80erUSUL, not sure, i did do an auto-update earlier, but it didnt require a restart, not sure if this was the first reboot since then, i ran fsck and fixed the errors found, tried reverting to the previous grub, still the same, i am able to boot onto a live-udb18:06
erUSUL!info logrotate18:06
ubottuPackage lofrotate does not exist in jaunty18:06
ubottulogrotate (source: logrotate): Log rotation utility. In component main, is standard. Version 3.7.7-3ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 40 kB, installed size 176 kB18:06
mohan1Is there any solution for me.18:06
isola73dsh33pyo..18:06
isola73dsh33pi'm back..18:06
nathan7YO DOOD18:07
isola73dsh33pthat's was long.. T_T18:07
mohan1welcome back18:07
isola73dsh33pthx18:07
erUSULsandyd80: i ran fsck and fixed the errors found <<<< maybe fsck moved important files to /lost+found/ ??18:07
isola73dsh33pjust finished installed xchat.. XD18:07
Bodsdanevermind18:07
StaRetjiHow can I make ubuntu with fluxbox automount usb drivers?18:08
isola73dsh33pwhy does my wlan sends so little numberr of packets =_=18:08
sandyd80erUSUL> if this is the case am i able to recover these files and if so how do i do it?18:08
rezdsound socket output problem: I used to have my speaker connected at the back of my computer with lenny, after I installed Ubuntu 9.04 the sound only works when it is connect to the output in the front of the computer.18:09
mohan1I have one more problem with firefox consuming my cpu usage. when I am surfing flash enabled websites.18:09
erUSULsandyd80: well it all depends on how many files got moved and if there is a chance to recover...18:09
Sajjad68how can i see movie subtitles in ubuntu?18:09
JennifererUSUL...ok...im going to try and reproduce the freeze18:09
enzotibStaRetji: you can give a look at the package usbmount18:09
rezd02:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)18:09
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mikubuntupici, thank you.  so then do you mind if i get support for how to use the bittorent clients on my ubuntu?18:09
StaRetjienzotib, thx for the tip, that is enough for me, cheers...18:09
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erUSULsandyd80: once fsck moved all my /etc/ dir there but fsck do not keep the names nor the folder structure so... reinstall for me :|18:10
mikubuntuanyways, i 'saved' the torrent on my desktop, it says the file is 1.12 gb, and the icon showed up instantly on the desktop.  when i right click it gives me the option of three different clients to open with.  azureus seems to have some problem, runs a loop that says have to update the core, but it never completes, and the other one is just called 'transmission bittorrent client', and it does nothing either when i launch it.  sh18:10
Picimikubuntu: Sure, go ahead and ask. Using torrents aren't forbidden here.18:10
JenniferFullscreen youtube while using bittorrent18:10
erUSULStaRetji: like in windows. depens on the player you use18:10
Jenniferoh, and the crash lost the entire torrent...when i restarted the download started over from the beginning.....grrrr18:10
isola73dsh33pgosh, my internet is so slow18:11
isola73dsh33p>.<18:11
Distro^Junkiewhen using skype 2.0 with video I can not use any others application that uses sound... anyone know of a fix ?18:11
fission6anyone here developing using adobe flex inubuntu, i woul dlike to chat if so18:11
JennifererUSUL...what messages should i be looking for?18:11
sandyd80erUSUL> There dont seem to any files in lost and found that were created today18:11
mikubuntuthx18:11
mikubuntupici, thx18:12
erUSULJennifer: oops messages18:12
meaniefaceisola73dsh33p: did you try what i said?18:12
erUSULJennifer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel_oops18:12
meaniefaceisola73dsh33p: go into gnome-control-center, click on hardware18:12
meaniefaceisola73dsh33p: you should see another wifi driver called "madwifi" try using that one18:12
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sandyd80erUSUL> anything else i can try?18:13
isola73dsh33pnot yet..18:13
isola73dsh33pcould not find gnome-control-center18:13
Harrison_BergeroerUSUL...anything about oops in here:  http://pastebin.com/d6f5da9a618:13
meaniefaceisola73dsh33p: just type it in the terminal18:14
isola73dsh33powh.. ok..18:14
erUSULsandyd80: so /lost+found/ is no empty ?18:15
JennifererUSUL...i found no oops in the message.log18:15
sandyd80no 8 files there, created aug 24, unless the date can get screwed up somehow18:15
Jenniferdoes this mean i have a hardware issue?18:15
erUSULJennifer: yes i was looking... so we do not have any info ... :|18:15
mohan1I am feedup of ubuntu what  to do18:16
erUSULJennifer: i dunno; do you use the propietary nvidia drivers ?18:16
JennifererUSUL...no info tells us something doesnt it?  points to hardware?18:16
Jenniferlet me llook18:16
erUSULJennifer: maybe you can try i while with the nv driver (no 3d) and see if the issue appears or not18:16
JennifererUSUL...using Nvidia version 173...recommended in the list18:17
skxHello, I am using Polish keyboard layout and it has ł under both alt+w and alt+l, the alt+w combination is very error prone, can I turn it off somehow and leave just alt+l?18:17
erUSULsandyd80: can you see what are those files ? use « file filename »18:17
BlackFLAGcan anyone here answer some questions i have about downloading ubuntu?18:17
JennifererUSUL...there is also a version 9618:17
MenZa!ask | BlackFLAG18:17
ubottuBlackFLAG: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)18:17
isola73dsh33pmeanieface:done it, not such driver18:17
meaniefaceisola73dsh33p: what was in your hardware drivers?18:18
Jenniferuninstalling the driver18:18
sandyd80erUSUL> i dont understand, they are called for instance #84199818:18
GavHey, can anyone tell me why after i log into ubuntu all it does is load the wallpaper and nothing else, i get no bars, shortcuts nothing.18:19
isola73dsh33pAMD/ATI proprietary FGLRX graphics driver18:19
tryggQuick question, why am I not privilieged to mount my PSP? My users and groups say that I can access external storages.18:19
JennifererUSUL18:19
isola73dsh33pthat's the only driver it listed..18:19
Jenniferill see if that does the trick18:19
BlackFLAGok, i would like to download ubuntu. i am currently using windows vista. i dont want to lose windows applications (specifically microsoft access). i also heard that you can download ubuntu on a flash drive instead of a LiveCD and that its better to do so. is this true and how do i download it to a usb drive18:19
JennifererUSUL....the freeze happens do infrequently that its irritating..last freeze was more than 2 weeks ago18:19
grawityBlackFLAG: There isn't any difference between flash and LiveCD versions.18:20
sandyd80blackflag, use unetbootin to copy the livecd image onto your USB stick18:20
MenZa!usb | BlackFLAG (more info here)18:21
ubottuBlackFLAG (more info here): For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent18:21
BlackFLAGhow does LiveCD work? i mean do i just get a blank cd-r and go?18:21
sandyd80blackflag, use unetbootin to copy the livecd image onto your USB stick18:21
sandyd80oops, just burn the ISO file to a blank cd yes18:21
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erUSULJennifer: sandyd80 sorry been away a while18:22
BlackFLAGthanks so much everyone gonna try and dl it18:22
sandyd80np18:22
erUSULsandyd80: yes fsck usually do not know the name of the file18:23
GavGHey, can anyone help me, after i log into ubuntu it only loads wallpaper, no bars no shortcuts i cant do anything apart from CTRL+ALT+DEL to logout. It was workng18:23
Kuifje111hello all, I just installed a new PC and I want to make sure everything is all right. Thus I installed LM-Sensors to check the temperatures of the CPU! could anyone check the output for me, because there are some oddities for me. Here's the output: http://pastebin.com/d20e1749518:23
wiredfooldoes @reboot work in /etc/cron.d for anyone?18:23
wiredfoolIt works on debian, but I'm not getting any love on 9.0418:23
erUSULJennifer: really is hard to know what is happening with th3e info we have...18:23
sandyd80erUSUL> so am i screwed then or is there a way to recover these files (even though they appear to be old)18:24
erUSULsandyd80: so it jst give them a number (or probably uses the inode number)18:24
sandyd80yes all of them are just numbers (8 files total)18:25
erUSULsandyd80: without knowing what they are (looking at its contents) is hard to know18:25
fcuk112_Kuifje111: have you tried installing sensors-applet?  it allows you to create an applet in your panel that uses data from sensors.18:25
Kuifje111ok, thanks.18:26
icerootwiredfool: working fine on lenny and hardy18:26
BlackFLAGanother question. will i be able to obtain ubuntu without a blank cd to burn it on? cuz i thought i had some but i dont18:26
sdwragezomg.. guake is nice :)18:26
iceroot!usb | BlackFLAG18:26
ubottuBlackFLAG: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent18:26
sandyd80blackflag: use the USB method as described18:26
meaniefacesdwrage: guake is nice, tilda is more configurable18:26
sdwragemeanieface, Had issues with tilda18:27
meaniefacesdwrage: like what?18:27
sdwrageI resized to 90% width and it wouldnt go back18:27
wiredfooliceroot: found something related in the bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cron/+bug/30834118:27
KemperВсем привет! Русскоговорящие есть?18:27
sandyd80erUSUL> dont u think its strange that the lost and found files are not dated with todays date?18:27
sdwrageand I tried to hide it... and it wouldnt hide18:27
sdwrageafter the change18:27
sdwrageso I tried to resize it back... no go18:27
sdwrageso I just went with guake for now :)18:27
icerootwiredfool: interesting18:28
fcuk112_yea guake rocks.18:28
meaniefacesdwrage: thats odd, i used guake first, i loved it but i wanted the console to be on the bottom of the screen18:28
sdwragemeh... its no biggie... I dont mind it being up top18:28
BlackFLAGon the page u gave me it gives me instructions on how to copy ubuntu from a cd to a usb drive18:29
BlackFLAGi dont have a cd18:29
sdwragemaybe ill play with tilda some day18:29
rookieOMG18:29
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fcuk112_you can also try yakuake, but i still prefer guake.18:29
sdwrageanyone know anything about installing open source ATI Drivers?18:29
sdwragethe proprietary ones suck balls18:29
sdwragesuper slow18:30
Kemperприкольно самому с собой разговаривать!18:30
Pici!ru | Kemper18:30
ubottuKemper: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke18:30
geniehosthi all18:30
rsksdwrage: the open are installed by default afaik18:30
geniehostI have a usb-floopy how can I find the device name of that one?18:30
sdwragersk, nah... I cant get to widescreen res18:30
sdwragedo I need to get xserver-xorg-video-ati?18:31
rskyep that's the package18:31
sdwrageok I will download it once I get home18:31
sdwrageat work right now on VMWare18:31
ScuniziThe gui based "users & groups" doesn't show all the groups.. How do I see them all on CLI?18:31
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sandyd80erUSUL> so are you saying that i am screwed?!18:32
peke78hola18:32
geniehosthow can I find my usb-floppy device name?18:32
geniehostany command?18:32
KemperPici, ubottu, сенк ю )))))18:32
geniehostI am 8.0418:32
wiredfooliceroot: I can't get either of those commands to do anything, so, it's differently broken in 9.0418:33
Floydanybody knows a way to have compiz on a dual-screen?18:33
scatterphi how would i add language support for chinese to xchat so i can read/write ?18:36
Scunizigeniehost: unplug it and then open a terminal and type dmesg.. it will output a lot of stuff.. just look at the bottom lines.. then plug in the device and reissue the dmesg command again looking at the bottom of the list.. it may show up there.. also there's sudo lshw18:36
Scunizihow do I get a list of groups on my machine in terminal?18:37
fcuk112_scatterp: did you try administration -> language support?18:37
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llutzScunizi: $ cut -d":" -f 1 /etc/group18:37
fcuk112_scatterp: and use irssi :)18:37
scatterpk18:37
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grawityscatterp: Network Settings -> Edit -> Charset: UTF-818:38
Scunizillutz: thanks.. that worked.. I output it to a text file.. how come the gui groups app doesn't list them all?18:38
scatterpgrawity, thanks18:39
llutzScunizi: idk18:39
squeloshello18:39
orbisviciswhat are the default permissions on /var/log/apache/{access,error} ? I think I might have screwed them up?18:39
squelosi got a HP probook 4510s. Im running ubuntu on it (jaunty)18:39
Scunizillutz: I was actaully looking for the right group for apache to put myself into.. you'd figure it would be listed.. DOH!18:39
geniehostthanks Scunizi , it's sdh18:39
squelosand the sound does come out of the integrated speaker. I managed to make it work on debian with the 2.6.30 kernel.18:40
squelosHow should i proceed ?18:40
llutzScunizi: isn't it www-data? no clue, sorry18:40
Scunizigeniehost: np :).. probably sdh1 for the disk once mounted18:40
Scunizillutz: it is.. I just couldn't remember it and was having problems referencing it.18:41
leopestorieccomi..... ;)18:41
leopestotu mi dici quello che devo fare.... e io lo faccio... ;)18:41
leopestoprovo a dare /etc/init.d/samba restart?18:42
squelos!es18:42
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.18:42
orbisvicisgah apache2 suddenly isn't logging anything18:42
fcuk112_!it18:42
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)18:42
leopestosorry18:42
leopestowrong chan ;)18:43
leopestobye18:43
nicolashello! could anybode please tell me where i can find the config file that pppoeconf creates?18:43
lo127I have a subversion repository in /var/<repos>, how do I set the filesystem permission so that multiple users can acces it?18:44
SikEnCideive got an issue with ubuntu server18:44
Scunizinicolas: perhaps in your /home directory.. but it will be hidden.. open the file manager and CTRL+H to view hidden files18:44
bryarDoes anyone know how to burn a bootable dvd on Ubuntu?18:45
raven_hi - which folder is the audio-plugin-folder - how to install a plugin (.so-file)18:45
nicolasthank you :)18:45
rbdhi guys... we have an ubuntu 9.04 box running.... was running fine until today... but now we launch X and just about every command we start up either crashes with a segmentation fault immediately or shortly thereafter.... a strace shows that they seem to die in random locations... no pattern to it... sounds like a potential bad memory issue to me...anyone have an other opinions?18:45
SikEnCideive got server 9.04 ... everytime i change my /etc/motd file it works, untill i rebot then it gets over written could i have some help please18:45
belilo127: chmod -R o+r /path/to/folder   ...o stands for others....+r for adding read permissions,,, the -R does it recursive on all files and dirs18:46
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lo127beli, is that really how its done?18:46
belilo127: no. ask your local police officer18:47
lo127I was thinking about creating a group "subversion" an use chgrp -R subversion /path18:47
belilo127: sure its done that way....read manuals! man chmod   and man chown18:47
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lo127but that would force me to change the standard creaton group of all users to subversion, right?18:47
belilo127: no...OTHERS stands for the rest of the world18:48
belilo127: you can set perms for the user, the group and all others of the file/dir18:48
lo127beli, not sure I wan't all local users to have r+w in the repos18:49
SikEnCideive got server 9.04 ... everytime i change my /etc/motd file it works, untill i rebot then it gets over written could i have some help please18:49
Raykoid666http://424a6161.linkseer.net <-- security tutorial for SQL injection, shortened url... my blog here: http://raykoid666.blogs.linkbucks.com18:49
lo127beli anyway, if a user creates a file in the repos, what happens with the permissions18:49
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lo127it won't be 777 any more, will it?18:49
bryarI have found an ISO for Vista and I need to burn it to a DVD. I've tried Brasseo and Gnomebaker but neither one will make it bootable. Is there a command to burn it from terminal so I can burn it as a bootable disk?18:50
synackfindoes anyone here use the 8-bay DAS (TR8M-B, uses SiI 3132 chipset)?18:51
fcuk112_bryar: try k3b.18:51
sreckobbhello18:51
AviramHEy guys18:51
llutzbryar: growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso18:51
sreckobbany from Serbia18:51
sreckobb?18:51
AviramI wonder how can I find what is the path for my DVD Rom drive?18:51
GManno18:51
AviramI need it for dumping some DVD18:52
Aviramanyone? D:18:52
Aviram??18:52
llutzAviram: /dev/sr0 most likely18:52
darkc0rewhois darkc0re18:52
darkc0resorry :P18:52
Jenniferhello18:53
JennifererUSUL....so far everything is working with the 2D driver18:53
belilo127: best way is to add the local users to one group....maybe they have a common group USERS....and then adjust the group permissions to +rw  ....existing files are unchanged of permissions...new files will take user:group18:53
JennifererUSUL...this might take a couple of weeks before the next crash18:53
belilo127: why not just read the manuals? its all in there18:54
lo127beli: so the new files has to be manually changed to the correct group?18:54
bryarllutz:  "growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso" on the last part, do I have to give where the iso is located?18:54
llutzbryar: sure18:54
VockI'm having a problem with screen size on a laptop: I plugged in an external monitor and Ubuntu automatically changed the resolution on my laptop, and then when I restored it and unplugged the external monitor, the screen size has shrunk (i.e. There are two black strips on the sides of the monitor that are not being used as part of the desktop). Any ideas how to treat this?18:54
belilo127: no!18:54
bryarllutz: let me try it18:54
sreckobbgrowisofs is command ?18:54
belilo127: you dont listen....read the manual18:55
lo127beli, chill out, I will18:55
lo127beli, thanks anyway18:56
jimmy51_how can i get a dump of my DNS settings from the terminal?18:56
bryarllutz: just once for clarification the command would read; growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=/home/bryar/WindowsVistaHomePremium.iso18:57
llutzbryar: yes18:57
raven_hi - which folder is the audio-plugin-folder - how to install a plugin (.so-file)18:58
llutzjimmy51_: cat /etc/resolv.conf   should give you the list of used nameservers18:58
jimmy51_thanks18:58
sreckobbhow to install a flash plugin (.so-file)18:58
sreckobb?18:59
jimmy51_llutz: i'm dealing with two subnets here.  from a windows box on subnet A i can ping HOSTNAME of a host on subnet B and it works.  in linux i have to ping HOSTNAME.DOMAIN.COM18:59
jimmy51_is that something i can resolve easily?18:59
canthus13sreckobb: You should be able to install flash via sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras18:59
sreckobbtnh19:00
sreckobbtnx19:00
trismsreckobb: or just sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree if you want just flash19:00
canthus13sreckobb: That'll also install other nice-to-have things like dvd playback and video codecs.19:00
^mNotIntelligenthi all!19:00
`Jackhi19:01
^mNotIntelligentI'm trying to register a dll using this: regsvr32 "C:\windows\system32\quartz.dll" but it gives me this error :  Failed to load DLL C:\windows\system32\quartz.dll, any idea?19:01
^mNotIntelligent!hi | `Jack19:01
ubottu`Jack: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!19:01
`Jackanyone can tell me how do I set colors in termina ? for example to look like this : jack@Jack:~$19:01
sreckobb19:01
sreckobbthanks people19:01
Pici^mNotIntelligent: If you're doing this under wine then the best place to ask is #winehq19:01
^mNotIntelligentthanks @ Pici19:02
WanHousejimmy51_: Middle of the page: http://linux.about.com/od/lna_guide/a/gdelna46.htm19:03
llutzjimmy51_: if you have a local dns-server, it should do that.19:04
jimmy51_hmm19:04
jimmy51_i do have a DNS server.  that would probably be the way to go, right?19:04
jimmy51_then i wouldn't have to modify host.conf for every client19:04
^mNotIntelligentPici, that channel is terribly slow...seems everyone is idle... I guess I've to wait for some time.... :-(19:04
moltenbobcatjimmy51_: all you should have todo is set your dns suffix to primary  domain.com19:05
WanHousejimmy51_: No need to do that if you have pointed your /etc/resolv.conf DNS addresses to a local DNS.19:05
Kiltachquick question because its kind of important right now, on the default wireless connection manager does the icon of two black boxes (in the same place as the broadcast tower with shield that means encryption) mean an adhoc connection19:05
Kiltachpretty sure someone is trying to bait people at my library19:05
llutzjimmy51_: i needed to gove some additional options to dnsmasq running on my router, when i had a similar issue19:05
erUSULJennifer: been away a while again sorry; good luck with the testing19:05
moltenbobcatjimmy51_: it should be the top line in the resolv.conf as domain domain.com19:05
WanHousemoltenbobcat is correct.19:06
raven_how to install LADSPA-plugins - which folder is the right one? (plugin is x.so file)19:06
jimmy51_moltenbobcat: ah, that's probably the source of the problem19:06
moltenbobcatjimmy51_: yeah if that's in there it will automatically append onto any dns lookups that aren't fully qualified19:06
jimmy51_there are multiple domain names among the subnets19:06
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moltenbobcatjimmy51_: well you can only have one primary dns suffix as far as I know19:07
jimmy51_i wonder how windows is making ti work19:07
jimmy51_maybe WINS ?19:07
eb4bgrhelp about ubuntu loading19:07
knoppixwhats up19:07
babakhow can in understand my ubuntu is 32 bit or 64 bit?19:08
eb4bgrwant to load ubuntu CD into Fat-32 as live-HD mode19:08
knoppix_hello?19:08
bryarllutz: burnt properly. am going to check if it will work.19:09
mkcottleNew (today) to Ububtu.  Attempting to get broadcom driver working for wifi on dv5000 cpu.  (using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx) for guide, but having difficulty following terminal steps.19:09
* meindian523 waits19:10
WanHousejimmy51_: DNS adresses as well. They also tell in what order to search the configured DNS's.19:10
mkcottlepulled the requested files down on alternate computer and xfered them using thumbdrive.  where to 'place' them so terminal command lines work?19:11
rnk_hey all, how do I figure out which package provides a certain file?  I'm missing /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop19:11
meindian523mkcottle, .debs?19:11
mkcottleno, the .bz2 and the wl_apasta=3.130.20.0.o files19:11
* meindian523 calls whoever was helping mkcottle before19:12
mkcottleI tried to simply use the fw-cutter deb, but the cpu doesn't have alternate internet access to pull the files down automatically.19:12
jimdandyHello all! I am using ubuntu-desktop (Jaunty), and I installed samba. I have noticed my hostname is visible to networks I connect to. Is samba responsible for this?19:12
jimmy51_WanHouse: i'm confused.  My windows boxes who get their DNS from the same DNS server as my linux box are able to ping anybody without the dns suffix.  my linux box cannot.  is this reasonable, or do i have a problem?19:13
WanHousejimdandy: They can query for the samba hostname (Can be any name you like).19:14
bryarllutz: it failed to boot...19:14
llutzbryar: broken iso19:14
jimdandyWanHouse: So if I uninstalled samba, this query wouldn't return anything?19:14
whotopia\join #openwrt19:14
bryarllutz: do you know how to fix?19:14
WanHousejimdandy: stop samba and test it.19:15
llutzbryar: nope19:15
mkcottleMeindian523, they aren't on.19:15
paolozhi to all19:15
paolozanyone can tell me the name of a program wich i can create a film from photo?19:15
bryarllutz: bollocks19:15
jimdandyWanhouse: I only have one computer :-)19:15
eb4bgrwant to load Ubuntu 9.04 CD into Fat-32 as live-HD mode.  is there any way ??19:15
WanHousejimmy51_: Put in some "search domain.com" at the top of the file.19:15
jimmy51_WanHouse: in the /etc/host.conf file on the client?19:16
WanHousejimmy51_: /etc/resolv.conf19:16
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bryarllutz: will try XP and then download Nero... Option for boot there.19:16
mkcottlenew user looking for help with jaunty and broadcom wireless driver.19:17
llutzbryar: not if you burn an iso19:17
jimmy51_WanHouse: that's working.19:17
WanHousejimmy51_: Neat19:17
jimmy51_WanHouse: thanks.  i guess i'll just have to do that for every linux box here.19:18
Jeruvypaoloz: try kino19:18
jimmy51_it still seems odd that windows can do it without explicitly indicating it19:18
urthmoverhow do you magnify zoom in on the ubuntu desktop?19:18
[manas]anyone saw jimmio ?19:18
maninhohi people19:18
mkcottle:-D anyone able to help?19:18
WanHousejimmy51_: For all domains in that case. Or do every box belong to its own domain :)19:18
JoshuaLjust ask mkcottle :D19:18
maninhohow are you?19:19
bryarllutz: either way i end up with frizzbees19:19
mkcottleheh.  let me go back and copy/paste.19:19
* stat_eno saluta19:19
llutzbryar: ever heard of dvd-rw? :)19:19
jimmy51_WanHouse: three domains... production, development, and testing19:19
mkcottleNew (today) to Ububtu.  Attempting to get broadcom driver working for wifi on dv5000 cpu.  (using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx) for guide, but having difficulty following terminal steps.19:19
WanHousejimmy51_: Add those.19:19
paolozJeruvy: thanks19:19
trismmkcottle: need to be a bit more specific19:19
paolozi will try19:19
jimmy51_WanHouse: they're all working when added to resolve.conf on the clients i've done so far19:20
mkcottlepulled the requested files down on alternate computer and xfered them using thumbdrive.  where to 'place' them so terminal command lines work?19:20
bryarllutz: too pricey. and my stepmom has all of them19:20
mkcottlejaunty cpu does not have alternate internet access... so trying to get the fw-cutter.deb package set to run manually19:20
WanHousejimmy51_: alright19:20
mkcottlestill need more info?19:21
dallixhow do I install the ppc codecs in ubntu 9.04 ... I have added medibuntu to my resporitories ... but apt get install ppc codecs doesn't work ... it says here that there are ppc codecs .. http://packages.medibuntu.org/jaunty/non-free-codecs.html ... but at the bottom of the page it only lists the x86 codecs and the amd64 codecs ... how do i get ppc codecs?19:21
thiscomputeris there a way to make all actions sudo in terminal?19:21
m0RrEhey, guys.. i quick question. is it possible to clone two displays with different refresh rates? the card is nvidia 9800gtx19:21
WanHousethiscomputer: "su -"19:21
jimmy51_thiscomputer: that's dangerous, but if you really want to you can run bash as sudo i think19:22
WanHousethiscomputer: You may need to unlock the root account first with the user configurator.19:22
fission6how do i allow my login name to write to /opt19:22
jimmy51_sudo bash19:22
habanosdoes anyone know a good free voip with iax provider19:22
raven_how to install LADSPA-plugins - which folder is the right one? (plugin is x.so file)19:22
llutzthiscomputer: sudo -i19:23
thiscomputerwanhouse would su - be indifinate19:23
LjL!sudo19:23
ubottusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE)19:23
red_hello everyone19:23
mkcottleI put the wl_apasta-3.130.20.0.o on the desktop.  when I run terminal  sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apasta-3.130.20.0.o and put in the password, reply is "cannot open input file wl_apasta-3.130.20.0.o"19:23
LjLthiscomputer: "sudo -i" is recommended (in the context of doing everything via sudo being NOT recommended to begin with, of course)19:23
WanHousejimmy51_: Only ubuntu does it this way. On all other dists you can "su -". Its only insecure if somehow the administrator (You) forget to close the terminal (Not likely).19:23
axisyshow do I let users to edit files using vi and have the RCS done automatically in the background.. or what is better and simple way to keep all files managed using revision control..  ?19:24
trismmkcottle: you need to make sure you are in the desktop folder, try cd Desktop first19:24
nathan70xffb00b19:24
trismmkcottle: err cd ~/Desktop19:24
LjLthiscomputer: (being root all the time will have bad implications for your files' permissions - they may become unreadable by your user - aside from the obvious security issues)19:24
mkcottlein terminal?19:24
sahilskhey do i know how can i open password protected zip file??19:24
trismmkcottle: yes19:24
mkcottletrying it. thx trism19:24
WanHousenathan7: I see you have an abundance ;)19:24
sahilski've tried using rarcrack, but no use.19:24
llutzsahilsk: man unzip19:24
thiscomputerhmn what i really want to do is stop the other users19:24
nathan7WanHouse: ?19:25
sahilskllutz: password protected  file??19:25
dbuggerHey guys, any of you use minitube?19:25
nathan7no, megatube19:25
WanHousenathan7: ?19:25
nathan7Actually, I use an intertube19:25
WanHouse^^19:25
nathan7vv19:25
dbuggera small app to see youtube in the desktop19:26
mkcottleTrism, it gave me bash: cd: /home/crossmark/desktop: no such file or directory.19:26
dbuggerI dont kno why, it's not playing :(19:26
llutzsahilsk: -P password19:26
jerjust out of curiosity, anyone know of an equivalent way of taking an ubuntu cd iso image and putting it on a usb stick, akin to usb-creator, but something that'll run on osx? (only other laptop i have right now)19:26
trismmkcottle: ubuntu (linux in general) is case-sensitive19:26
trismmkcottle: it is a capital D19:26
mgolischits Desktop probably19:26
WanHousethiscomputer: edit the /etc/sudoers file19:26
mgolischunless you changed that19:26
mkcottleOh. retrying19:26
tarelerulzDo any of you know the package for Konqueor that gives you files size view ? Or some other way too see what files are taking up a bunch of space. My Vista don't work so I wanted to clear some space on the partition .19:27
sahilskllutz: i need to break the password of zip file.19:27
llutzsahilsk: ask in #how-to-become-1337-hackz0r19:27
sahilsklol19:27
WanHousethiscomputer: Make sure you can "su -" first or youll lock out everyone and have to rescue.19:27
llutzsahilsk: you asked to open, not to crack19:27
thiscomputerwhat i want to do for certain is stop the unprivliaged account from accessing any of the main file systems folders is there a way to do that19:27
zleaptarelerulz, you should be able to display file size in konqueror19:28
Jenniferok...good news...it crashed again...right now19:28
dallix.join #how-to-become-1337-hackz0r19:28
Jenniferthis time i do have flashing keyboard19:28
Jenniferwhat does this mean?19:28
llutzJennifer: kernel-panik19:28
prince_jammysthiscomputer: why?19:28
JennifererUSUL...you here?19:28
llutzpanic*19:28
sahilskllutz: great....my mistake...19:28
thiscomputerits a child19:28
mkcottlein desktop (I think) still got the cannot open input file wl_apasta-3.130.20.0.o response19:28
ScuniziIs there a browser based control utility for mysql that's in the repos?19:28
Jenniferlllutz....what should i do now19:28
babakhow can understand my ubuntu is 32bit or 64bit?19:28
willyhy all19:29
trismmkcottle: type pwd19:29
prince_jammysthiscomputer: regular users can't write to those files.19:29
trismmkcottle: and if you're in the corect directory, type ls and see if the file is there19:29
mkcottleit didn't ask for it this time.19:29
Jenniferi am using nonproprietary videodriver19:29
WanHousethiscomputer: Regualr users always need access to /bin/* and /usr/* etc to function (be able to login etc) why ?19:29
llutzJennifer: press ALT-SYSRQ-S/E/I/U/B19:29
Jenniferas erUSUL suggested...this time the error does give a flashing keyboard19:29
willysomeone can help me to connect an webserver to a host?19:29
willypls19:29
rmmRMMany way to speed up the visual bell in GNOME? right now, the refresh takes around a second :-/19:29
mkcottleTrism, pwd give me the response /home/crossmark/Desktop19:30
Jenniferllutz....sysrq?  is that control?19:30
WanHousewilly: ?19:30
iarpfor some reason, i have 11 apache processes running might there be a reason why? ubuntu server 9.0419:30
llutzJennifer: nope, should be on "print" key19:30
jd__Hi can anyone help with a simple audio question19:30
trismmkcottle: then you should be in the correct directory (since you said you put the files on the Desktop), is the file listed in ls?19:30
BlackFLAGi downloaded the ubuntu file to my USB flash and my external hard drive. now what do i do to run ubuntu? or to install it?19:30
Jenniferllutz...should i hold that entire combination at once?19:30
llutzJennifer: http://www.debian-administration.org/article/The_magic_sysreq_options_introduced19:30
khtaambabak, run: uname -a, if it says i686 its 32 bit19:30
thiscomputeri set up a second accont for the child but found i can still access my desktop and such through his/her i dont want that being done19:31
enderwould anyone know why I cant dual boot with ubuntu because when I try to boot to cd I get blue screen?19:31
trismmkcottle: you may have just mistyped it if it is, you can try using the tab key to autocomplete the filename19:31
mkcottletrism, retrying.19:31
llutzJennifer: it's 5 commands19:31
jd__I have changed all my audio selections to sB audigy audio is fine but on the web (youtube ect.) I get no audio can anyone direct me where these settings may be?19:32
tarelerulzzleap, I looked under view and the option it give are detail , list , columns .  On ever other version of Konqueor I had to install an extra package .19:32
vladhello! I wanna install ubuntu 9.10 on my desktop PC. Will I need to reinstall my system when the finall(stable) version is released? It´s just 10 deys but I can´t wait to use it;)19:32
rmmRMMvlad: no you don't19:32
mkcottleTrism.  that file extracted...woot.  moving on to the rest. thx.19:32
trismmkcottle: good luck19:32
Jeruvyender: a blue screen from windows?  Sounds like you system is not booting from cd/dvd.19:32
khtaamvlad, no, it will be updated to final release19:32
vladlovely, TY19:33
vladgetting it right now19:33
rmmRMMvlad: just run apt-get dist-upgrade and it wll update on the fly19:33
enderI can boot to other live cds though19:34
enderand I cant format to ntfs either if that helps19:34
jd__If anyone can help Direc me   need help with a simple audio prob19:34
Jeruvyender; did you md5 check the cd in question?19:34
Jenniferllutz...still blinking19:34
endermd5 check?19:34
Jeruvy!md5 | ender19:34
ubottuender: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows19:34
Jenniferllutz...is there a control/alt/del version for ubuntu?19:34
thiscomputerthe reason for why i want to block the children from accessing any of the main files photos ecetera19:35
llutzJennifer: won't work after a kernel-panic. sysrq is the only way (or shutting power off)19:35
Bragex9how do i completely remove firefiox from my system?19:35
ineuwhelp with ubuntu 9.10 installation needed19:36
Jenniferok....just a logic question now.  Now that im using a nonproprietary driver, still crashed BUT now i have a flashing keyboard which i didnt have before....does this suggest a bad graphics card?19:36
BodsdaCan I use samba as a file sharing solution between two Ubuntu machines?19:36
darko_hello, can i use my tomboy notes with gnote?19:36
Jeruvyineuw: please join #ubuntu+1 for help with karmic.19:36
llutzJennifer: no clue, sorry19:36
kusanagi_Jennifer, ati?19:36
Jenniferkusanagi...nvidia19:36
ineuwKarmic's kernel should be 2.6.31-14.48-generic but mine is19:36
ineuwUbuntu 2.6.27-7.16-generic19:37
kusanagi_propietary driver works pretty fine to me19:37
ineuwand this is after installation of 9.1019:37
Jenniferkusanagi...i was using the proprietary19:37
Bodsdaineuw: please, you were asked to take karmic discussions to #ubuntu+119:37
ineuwthanks19:37
kusanagi_Jennifer, there is no ctrl + alt + del ctrl + alt + f1 and the htop insted19:38
Jennifersometimes i get the strong suspicion that this is all DESIGNED to waste our collective time...am i alone with the perspective?19:38
jd__help me please I need audio for the internet I use a SB audigy card Ive change all my settings over and audio tested   everything works but no audi online where would this setting be19:38
BodsdaJennifer: what is 'this'?19:38
kusanagi_Jennifer, well, im sure u are not the only one... but quite wasting ur time...19:38
angelo-026Hello . i need help i wil install a max osx work balk on my ubuntu?19:38
mkcottleTrism - it all worked out fine - rebooted and it's online.  thank you again for your help with learning the terminal.19:38
CreapI have installed eggdrop from the repositories but need to recompile it to add a module. I have all the -src repos in my sources.list, but where is the sourcecode?19:38
darko_hello, can i use my tomboy notes with gnote?19:38
JenniferBodsda...civilization in general19:38
BodsdaJennifer: oh yeah... thats buggered19:38
rhend15Hello can somebody help me with this problem is am searching for an solution for an mac bar, with those big round buttons here is an example : http://www.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp/guide/gazou/Mac-desktop-english.jpg19:39
BodsdaCreap: try a   sudo apt-get source <packagename>19:39
kusanagi_Jennifer, and you are living in the nice side of civilization...19:39
Bodsdarhend15: you mean the application dock?19:40
Creapok thanks19:40
rhend15Yes thats what i mean,19:40
Bodsda!awn | rhend1519:40
ubotturhend15: Avant Window Navigator is a dock-like navigation bar for  the Linux desktop that positions itself at the bottom of the screen. Homepage http://wiki.awn-project.org/ - Awn-Manager can be found in Universe from Hardy (8.04) onwards.19:40
kusanagi_rhend15, gnome do bar or avant window manager19:40
rhend15Thanks i will take a look at it :)19:40
llutzJennifer: don't you have a spare graphics-card for testing (or your neighbour)?19:40
sandyd80Anyone able to help...my ubuntu i broke, i get as far as a blank desktop with the mouse pointer and it seems to get stuck there, how do i go about troubleshooting this_19:41
BodsdaCan I use samba as a file sharing solution between two Ubuntu machines?19:41
kusanagi_just buy a new one u know its compatible19:41
kusanagi_the cheapest one19:41
llutzBodsda: sure19:41
m0RrEhow can i set different refresh rates on my default screen and my 40" tv connected via hdmi19:41
Bodsdallutz: sweet19:41
Jenniferllutz...i may swap cards later tonight...i only have a box full19:42
llutzBodsda: why not nfs?19:42
GlowballAnyone in here who is using Dutch Ubuntu? No further requirements to answer my question :P19:42
thiscomputerthanx all19:42
thiscomputerbye19:42
Bodsdallutz: cause I know where the docs are for samba :)19:42
Jenniferllutz....older should be better for drivers right?  Would you suggest ati or nvidia 64-256mb cards19:42
willysomeone can help me to connect an webserver to a host?19:42
kusanagi_sandyd80, http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=gnome+default+ubuntu19:42
BodsdaJennifer: nvidia19:43
llutzJennifer: no idea what to suggest, i'm using an old 620019:43
GlowballWell, I can better ask it straight away: does anybody know how well Ubuntu is translated to Dutch? I'm thinking of using it instead of the English version, but I can't stand bad translations...19:43
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Bodsda!dutch19:43
ubottuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl19:43
Jenniferjust as an aside, has anyone figured out how to ditch civilization before we destroy ourselves?19:43
ender"dbb274edbb28019b584ec47678a16d52  WinXP.iso" is my output for an md5sum command19:43
GlowballAh, ok19:44
BodsdaGlowball: try asking in #ubuntu-nl19:44
Scunizihow do I access mysql-admin web gui?  http://localhost:<what's the port number> or another method?19:44
BodsdaJennifer: yeah, I wrote a script for that... gimme a sec19:44
Kuifje111Scunizi: 3301, maybe?19:44
llutzJennifer: let it go, nature will say: thank you for leaving19:44
ScuniziKuifje111: suprisingly, it's actually a gui with a launcher off the menu.. not browser based..19:45
ScuniziKuifje111: just found the link in the menu :)19:45
jgayso, i just lost trackpad/nub/mouse-button control on my dell d620 laptop (running karmic). Does anybody know if there is a good place to find out what *should* appear when I cat /proc/bus/input/devices19:45
Kuifje111Scunizi: all right.19:45
Garnolhi, i need to find out the wirelesslan password of a router, can you give me a hint how to get it?19:47
llutzGarnol: ask the owner19:47
ScuniziKuifje111: except it's acking for the Server Host Name.. I'm trying "localhost" but not sure .19:47
sandyd80kusanagi: so do you mean that i shoud delete all of my .gnome folders?19:47
rhend15Garnol: What kind of encryption is it ?19:47
Garnoli think its wpa19:47
Garnolor wpa219:47
rhend15Garnol: There are no way's to crack wpa, only brute forcing19:48
enderCan anyone help me, I cant seem to format any partitions to NTFS19:48
llutzGarnol: wpa - maybe aircrack, wpa2 - ask owner19:48
Garnolwpa2 is uncrackable?19:48
darkhamhow many time would take gparted to format a 4gb pendrive in ext3?19:48
pistymandoes anybody have a problem where their display preferences wont load and needs to be forced to quit?19:48
rhend15llutz: aircrack also brute force on wpa19:48
Kuifje111wpa2 is quite difficult to crack.19:48
daevskiI have Samba running and a directory shared... how can I make my files accessable by ftp client (aka make my system listen on port 21)?19:48
PanzerI have a gateway m6848 laptop.  I have installed ubuntu 9.04.  IN the install and afterward the machine is not able to find the dhcp server and when I edit the interfaces file I can't get the eth0 connection up.19:49
llutzrhend15: with chance to succeed19:49
Kuifje111daevski: install an ftp daemon.19:49
rhend15Garnol: yes it is only by brute force hacking.19:49
Garnolok, i heard of a technic to send out a disturbing signal and catching the password afterwords19:49
Garnolok19:49
rhend15llutz: indeed19:49
Kuifje111Garnol: thats basically only with WEP.19:49
Garnolhm19:49
llutzGarnol: WEP takes about 30 seconds19:49
daevskiKuifje111: ah, thanks! I knew I was missing something. Is there a common one?19:49
rhend15llutz: how do you crack web ?19:50
kusanagi_rhend15, goolge it19:50
llutzrhend15: aircrack-ng19:50
Kuifje111daevski: you mgiht want to try vsftpd.19:50
kusanagi_and its WEP19:50
jimmy51_does this mean anything to anyone here:  "You may just need to add "SSLRequireSSL" to your AuthConfig section. "  ?19:50
Garnolok19:50
rhend15llutz: is that the only thing i need because they always talk about kismet19:50
daevskiKuifje111: how does it compare to what I just found on google: pure-ftpd ?19:50
llutzrhend15: http://aircrack-ng.org/19:51
WanHousedaevski: gadmin-proftpd for comfortable servings.19:51
Kuifje111daevski: I have no experience with pure-ftpd, but vsftpd worked all right for me.19:51
rhend15llutz: Thanks19:51
daevskiKuifje111: is it GUI or cli?19:51
llutzrhend15: but it's hard to find WEP-networks today19:51
daevskiwanhouse: thank you.19:51
WanHousedaevski: gadmin-proftpd is GUI. Np19:52
Kuifje111daevski: proftpd is probably the most popular one amongst professional usage.19:52
Garnolhow long do you think will i need to crack my wpa network?19:52
kusanagi_llutz, it depends on where u live... lol here there are tons of old routers still working19:52
rhend15llutz: Yes i know, sadly enough :(19:52
llutzGarnol: ages :)19:52
Kuifje111daevski: there are probably GUIs available, but I prefer to keep it CLI.19:52
Garnolor is there any alternativ method?19:52
Kuifje111Garnol: dont try it, will possibly take years.19:52
daevskiKuifje111 / wanhouse: alright thank you both!19:52
ab2qikHelp needed with audio streaming recorder for jaunty?19:53
BluShiftHey! Has anyone used the Logitech X-540 speakers with Ubuntu? Do they work?19:53
WanHousedaevski: Np19:53
kusanagi_ab2qik, just ask19:53
Kuifje111you're welcome.19:53
mMezquitalewhat command tells you what cpu you have?19:53
llutzmMezquitale: cat /proc/cpuinfo19:53
FCalderoncat /proc/cpuinfo19:53
kusanagi_mMezquitale,  sudo apt-get sysinfo19:53
Kuifje111thats the one19:53
sandyd80kusanagi: do  you mean that i should restore the gnome panels to there default settings, the google search wasnt very clear, could you provide a link to specific info19:54
BluShiftI know they need a special driver; does this driver or an alternate work for them?19:54
fission6how do i install firefox3219:54
mMezquitalellutz, thanks, that one did it19:54
Kuifje111apt-get install firefox19:54
IlusoBUERNAS TARDES19:54
Skol__hi all. how can I figure out which gecko version am I using? is there any "about:gecko" address that I can use? I'm using Ubuntu and "Help" -> "About" didn't show me anything that I find useful19:54
IlusoUN SALUDO DESDE MARACAIBO VENEZUELA19:54
ab2qikbeen using total recorder for wins. It records shoutcat etc.. into separate tracks. Is there an equivalent for jaunty? E.g gstreamer?19:54
FCalderonIluso: no uses mayusculas, se consideran gritos19:54
Kuifje111Skol__: maybe you should join #gecko instead.19:54
llutz!es | Iluso19:54
ubottuIluso: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.19:54
IlusoALGUIEN ME AYUDA PARA INSTALAR FLASHPLAYER19:54
mMezquitalekusanagi_,  i'm on ssh, so i could only use command line19:54
IlusoEN UBUNTU+19:54
Gnea!caps | Iluso19:54
IlusoPLEASE19:54
ubottuIluso: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.19:54
FloodBot3Iluso: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.19:54
kusanagi_mMezquitale, ok :D19:55
Ilusotahnks19:55
mMezquitaleIluso, pregunta en ingles y te contestaran19:55
GneaIluso: /join #ubuntu-es19:55
Skol__Kuifje111, I don't think that you got my question... btw, thanks19:55
Ilusoalguien que me ayude con flash player19:55
sandyd80Anyone able to help...my ubuntu i broke, i get as far as a blank desktop with the mouse pointer and it seems to get stuck there, how do i go about troubleshooting this_19:55
joakimkIs there any way to have a button in my "tray" (a shortcut) which opens a set of programs? For instance, when I work, I need a Terminal window with 5 tabs (going to certain dirs, and some opening SSH connections), and let's say Firefox and Thunderbird?19:55
kusanagi_sandyd80, yeah, i had a problem similitar to what you describe... i erased all the gnome configurations stuff, then log out and log it again and everything work to normal19:55
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FCalderonsandyd80: do you have the menus on top or not even that?19:56
joakimkso I could hit "Work" button, and everything would unfold to my liking :)19:56
FCalderonjoakimk you would need to do some shell scripting, it isn't that hard19:56
sandyd80no menus, right click doesnt work, alt-f2 doesnt work19:56
* stat_eno hi to all19:56
FCalderonsandyd80: Are you using gnome or kde?19:56
Gneasandyd80: what about ctrl-alt-f1?19:57
Elixirhi .. python made problem in my system(hardy 8.04) and yesterday it crashed and not back till I reinstall python and gnome .. how can I know the source of the problem ?19:57
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sandyd80FCalderon: gnome19:57
ab2qikHey help with recording streaming audio would be great19:57
joakimkFCalderon: I was thinking there would exist some tool which "remembers" the programs running right now, and can recall them next time I hit the button. If you see what I mean :)19:57
GneaElixir: examine ~/.xsession-errors19:57
trismjoakimk: you could also use something like screen for the terminal windows (I have screen automatically open up 6 windows starting various programs and shells when it starts)19:57
WanHousejoakimk: so you mean a single button to launch many different programs ? (Local or remote via ssh) ?19:57
joakimkWanHouse: Local19:57
userhome=)19:57
sandyd80Gnea: never tried alt-f1, i'm on live-cd now19:57
FCalderonjoakimk I don't know about any tool that does that, however if you happen to find it please let me know, as that would be extremely useful here19:58
Gneasandyd80: no, not alt-f1. ctrl-alt-f119:58
kusanagi_ab2qik, just ask whats the problem19:58
sandyd80ok, no, what does that do?19:58
FCalderonsandyd80: ctrl-alt-f1 should take you to a shell (command line)19:58
joakimkFCalderon: hehe I will :)19:58
sandyd80ok, what would i do from there, if it should work?19:58
stat_enoi can't write a DVD-r ... " /dev/sr0 has been opened read-only"19:59
FCalderonjoakimk Maybe the "suspend" and "hibernate" functions would work, you can save the current program states and restore them the next time you boot up19:59
ab2qikkusanagi_: Need to record into separate tracks so a playlist is formed.19:59
ElixirGnea .. how ?19:59
GneaElixir: with a text editor or terminal pager, like less19:59
FCalderonsandy80: try running nautilus and see if that works19:59
kusanagi_ab2qik, where are you gettint the streams19:59
WanHousejoakimk: GNOME/gnome-terminal could have some open-tab options maybe. I suggest "man gnome-terminal", because its tabbable.19:59
kusanagi_from19:59
joakimkFCalderon: yea, but I don't always want this to happen. And maybe I could have a suite of shortcuts19:59
ab2qikkusanagi_: shoutcast. Im19:59
endersorry to re-post but does anyone know why I cant format to ntfs or use a windows cd?20:00
joakimkWanHouse: I see... I guess a shell script would be the easiest20:00
sandyd80ok, i go try20:00
sandyd80thanx20:00
]{LiK`Ev][L`hi there20:00
WanHousejoakimk: Yeah, thats what im thinking.20:00
]{LiK`Ev][L`I'm going to need support in a second20:00
FCalderonjoakimk but a shell script will just open those programs for you, it won't remember their last state20:00
ab2qikkusanagi_: It works in vista using total recorder. Need something similar that can do it20:00
Gnea]{LiK`Ev][L`: a second is up.20:00
ab2qikkusanagi_: that can do it in jaunty ofc.20:01
joakimkFCalderon: no... I only need the tabs to go to their respective dirs, and some to open SSH connections. Then I start working20:01
FCalderonender: a windows cd isn't ntfs formated.20:01
joakimkFCalderon: so I guess shell script is really the solution20:01
kusanagi_ab2qik, i dont really know whats the problem, a regular recorder will record stream...20:01
kusanagi_what program are you using for shoutcast20:01
Kirschhey all, i'm running ubuntu hardy server and i ran updates, now when i try and use certain programs, /dev/null is chmodded to 600, so a non-root user trying to access anything that needs it dies, i saw a launchpad bug about it but no real solution except to add an init script to change it to 666, is there a real solution yet?20:01
Gneaender: because microsoft said 'no'20:01
trism!screen | joakimk20:02
ubottujoakimk: Screen is a window manager for terminal sessions, also useful over SSH. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen20:02
FCalderonKirsch: what's wrong with having it chmoded to 666 every time you boot up?20:02
ZykoticK9ab2qik, check out streamripper - download online streams into audio files, not sure if it breaks stuff up into files though - it might20:02
KirschFCalderon: its a hack fix, why isn't it creating it on boot as 666?20:02
KirschFCalderon: i'm concerned something ELSE is wrong...20:02
ab2qikkusanagi_: Yes i have recorded with gstreamer on jaunty. But how can you build a playlist of separate tracks as you hit record and stop. Record stop, etc.20:02
enderI have two separate problems where I cant get past "starting windows" on my windows cd. Or format to NTFS using gparted20:03
ZykoticK9Kirsch, i'd ask the same question in #ubuntu-server20:03
WanHouseKirsch: sounds like Ubuntu creates it wrong. In /etc/udev... rules somewhere you can probably change it20:03
kusanagi_ab2qik, a playlist? you mean a textfile with the names of the files you want to play?20:03
Gneaender: again, microsoft said "NO!!!"20:03
Gneaender: you have to use the cd to format ntfs20:03
FCalderonender: are you trying to run a windows install CD from ubuntu?20:03
nyashHello. How to change the localhost.domainname.xxx   name of my ubuntu computer? I had already changed the localhost name in /etc/hostname, but I would like to change the domainname. How to do it?20:04
WanHouseKirsch: Then they have effectively destroyed the /dev/null shells.20:04
enderno from boot20:04
KirschWanHouse: yes, thats what the problem is20:04
falstaff|hHello, can somebody help me debug a cryptsetup problem? I try to decrypt a small encrypted filesystem in a file via loopback.... I get asked 4-5 times for my password (im absolut sure the password is correct, it works when the system is booted)20:04
ab2qikkusanagi_: Names of files that the recorder records and saves with auto generated filenames. THis forms the playlist.20:04
WanHouseKirsch: File it as a bug. A severe one at that.20:04
FCalderonender: the windows install is completely independent of ubuntu, therefore if you're having problems running the installer, maybe it's just that your hard disk is failing20:04
GneaKirsch: is this with jaunty?20:04
falstaff|hTHe problem is, there is much output between the password question, but i cant scroll within usplash... is this output somwhere logged? syslog doesnt contains it20:05
KirschGnea: no, hardy20:05
stat_enohow to mount a disk if reports an error like http://pastebin.com/m530e11e520:05
kusanagi_ab2qik, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&hs=dUK&ei=DAreSsyADYaG4QbiwtgN&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&ved=0CAYQBSgA&q=record+shoutcast+ubuntu&spell=120:06
ab2qikZykoticK9: I think i need to experiment with different recorders.20:06
WanHouseKirsch: Upgrade if you can.20:06
KirschWanHouse: its a VPS, i don't think that would be wise...20:06
WanHouseKirsch: VPS...20:06
llutzab2qik: streamtuner/streamripper20:06
GneaKirsch: if it's a vps, you should be able to clone it, upgrade and see what happens, and fall back to the original if need be20:06
falstaff|hstat_eno, what says dmesg | tail?20:06
FCalderonafk20:07
ZykoticK9stat_eno, you are trying to mount a cdrom/dvd or something?  can we see the command you are trying?20:07
WanHouseKirsch: virtual private solution ? dunno...20:07
]{LiK`Ev][L`okay who thinks they can help with this dual monitor problem20:07
Gnea!ask | ]{LiK`Ev][L`20:08
ubottu]{LiK`Ev][L`: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)20:08
nyashHello. How to change the localhostname.domainname.xxx   name of my ubuntu computer? I had already changed the localhost name in /etc/hostname, but I would like to change the domainname. How to do it?20:08
WanHouse]{LiK`Ev][L`: Learn about the Xorg server. We are not your eyes.20:08
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falstaff|hnyash, you have to alter /etc/hosts20:08
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nyashfalstaff|h: thx, will take a look20:09
stat_enofalstaff|h, http://pastebin.com/md35d7e420:09
adamdammit, my Kirsch user got stuck in IRC20:09
zak_ what command shall i use to see the usb disks plugged?20:09
trismKirsch: you should need to add a script to /etc/udev/rules.d with the line KERNEL=="null" MODE="0666"20:09
craigbass1976I'm looking to get a dell 5330dn laser working with Ubuntu.  Anyone had any luck?20:09
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trismKirsch: or fix it if it is already there with 060020:10
Guest72722trism: its already there20:10
craigbass1976zak_, lsusb works I think20:10
Guest72722<--- is now Kirsch20:10
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trismGuest72722: already there with 0600 or 066620:11
]{LiK`Ev][L`well that wasn't a very polite answer wanhouse20:11
Guest72722trism: 066620:11
Guest72722KERNEL=="null",MODE="0666"20:11
stat_enoZykoticK9, http://pastebin.com/m65c149fd20:11
WanHouse]{LiK`Ev][L`: Only you can decide what you see from the output Xorg produces, right ? And yes, its the best we can do for you.20:12
Gnea]{LiK`Ev][L`: if you're unwilling to tell us your problem, we don't have to be willing to help you solve it.20:12
frandieguez#ubuntu-motu20:12
]{LiK`Ev][L`I'll get back to you on that trying to suppress these join leave notifications first20:12
DigitalKiwimost annoying name ever.20:12
ja!help20:13
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)20:13
falstaff|hstat_eno, what are you trying to mount? is this a cd/dvd? Is it burned cd?20:13
WanHouseDigitalKiwi: I concur to some extent.20:13
ZykoticK9stat_eno, just try "sudo mount /dev/scd0 /mnt" and see if that works20:13
craigbass1976Also, has anyone ever got the faxes out of a brother MFC 3840 and into a document?  We're out of ink, but I know they're cached in the printer somewhere..20:13
DigitalKiwiimpressed the bot works with it20:13
erUSUL!hostname | nyash20:13
ubottunyash: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at System > Administration > Networking on the "General" tab20:13
ianderson45678920:14
ianderson012345678920:14
ianderson102345678920:14
crohakonAnyone know where I can find a guide that explains what each directory is used for?20:14
erUSUL!fhs | crohakon20:15
ubottucrohakon: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview20:15
crohakonThanks20:15
Sandy80dFCalderon:I pressed ctrl-alt-f1, and got command line, typed "nautilus" and received following error: "could not parse arguements, cannot open display"20:15
WanHouseI sence someone is trying to setup a flood.20:15
Kuifje111thats why we have floodbot3, dont we?20:16
fearfulI'm having problems with skype the soud in and out used to work i was able to make calls and video calls all of the sudden it doesn't work, I've tried all the settings and none work anymore any idea why?20:16
ZykoticK9Sandy80d, you actually can't start gui apps from text consoles i'm affraid - it won't work...20:16
WanHouseKuifje111: Yeah, but nothing is perfect ;)20:16
trismKirsch: do you have any udev links in /etc/rc2.d?20:17
stat_enofalstaff|h, is an empty dvd-rw20:17
Sandy80dZykoticK9: OK, I am trying to fix a broken gui (gnome) i was instructed to drop to command prompt and try opening nautilus20:17
joakimkquit/20:17
ZykoticK9stat_eno, you can't mount an empty dvdrw - you can only mount file systems20:17
Kirschok now that i have my name back20:18
fearfulSkype starts the call rings and then says problem with audio playback any ideas?20:18
ZykoticK9Sandy80d, i know - i did see that suggested too you and knew it wouldn't work :(  i don't know how to fix you gui problem - but from command line try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" then try going to ctrl+alt+f7 and see if there is a login window.  best of luck.20:18
WanHouseSandy80d: Update the dist first.20:18
stat_enoand how can i do it?20:18
Kirschi'm going to ask my question again in #ubuntu-server20:19
dmpjkstupid qeustion, but i need to get this straight. Im running a free antivirus program , Moonsecure. What does "disinfect file" mean? Does it mean that i am protecting my system by doing so, or does it mean that i am telling the AV that the file in qeustion is not a virus, and should be allowed.20:19
trismKirsch: I found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/69516, which seems to have the same problem, which seems to stem from multiple links to udev on boot, they deleted the extra one and were getting the correct permissions on /dev/null20:19
azlonhas anybody setup a sms server using a 3g modem?20:19
stat_enoZykoticK9, and how can i do it?20:19
Kirschok hang on20:19
trismKirsch: might be a better idea, good luck20:19
ZykoticK9stat_eno, do what?  mount an empty dvd - it's impossible, write something to it first :)20:19
stat_enoZykoticK9, k3b don't do it20:20
stat_enoZykoticK9, brasero don't do it20:20
Kirschtrism: for some reason, deleting that file seems weird no?20:20
daevskiftpd question: my newly created ftp server is able to retrieve LIST (directory) info when on port 21, but not on a custom port. Any thoughts on why?20:20
Kirschtrism: i don't even have that file20:20
ZykoticK9stat_eno, i'm sorry man i haven't been following you problem, just saw you say empty dvd - and you can't mount those.  good luck man.20:20
edemhello everybody.Where can i find any information on how to use image background in text console as in Mandriva and Zenwalk? Thanks in advance.20:21
trismKirsch: alright, well, I'm out of ideas20:21
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stat_enoZykoticK9, k3b doesn't burn it, why?20:21
fearfulanyone help with skype audio playback problem, it used to work fine now it doesn't20:22
ZykoticK9stat_eno, ? i have no idea man...20:22
Sandy80dZykoticK9, started GDM [OK] but ctrl-alt-f7 takes me to a blank screen, any ideas?20:22
WanHousestat_eno: Buy a new burner. Tis broken perhaps.20:23
Kirschtrism: lol thx, i appreciate the help, gonna ask server folks20:23
ZykoticK9Sandy80d, test ctrl-alt-f8 (f9 and f10) check them all20:23
manishstat_eno: k3b version?20:23
stat_enoZykoticK9, k3b says "please insert an empty dvd medium"; brasero reports many errors and stops20:24
stat_enomanish, 1.0.520:24
ZykoticK9stat_eno, perhaps the disc you are trying has already had something written on it -- try a new disc20:24
manishstat_eno: you are writting is flooded with etra data20:25
Kingsy102can someone tell me some good easy to use burning software for ubuntu? something similar to nero would be nice :)20:25
Sandy80dZykoticK9, try all f-keys, nothing happened20:25
Sandy80d*tried20:25
ZykoticK9Kingsy102, k3b is probably the closes (requires a lot of the kde library but it might be worth it)20:25
manishstat_eno: what is the size of the DVD?20:25
ZykoticK9Sandy80d, what gfx card?20:26
stat_enoZykoticK9, just buyed (1,70€) :P20:26
voraistosHi, do you know if in 9.10 the intel graphics driver will work decently ?20:26
stat_enomanish, no20:26
Kingsy102ZykoticK9 - anything that just installs nice and easy from the repos?20:26
Picivoraistos : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.20:26
Kirschtrism: boo, not getting responses in #ubuntu-server20:26
stat_enomanish, 4,7Gb20:26
Sandy80dbuilt in intel i believe (netbook intel atom)20:26
voraistosPici cheers20:26
Kingsy102i.e I am looking to just install and burn something now (DVD) very quickly20:26
ZykoticK9voraistos, 9.10 does fix some intel bugs -- runs ok on my eee 70120:26
manishstat_eno: and what is the size you are writting?20:26
Sandy80dZykoticK9, >built in intel i believe (netbook intel atom)20:27
dmpjkfearful: skype has to do with the switch to pulseaudio i think20:27
ZykoticK9Kingsy102, k3b is in the repos...  it's what i use for burning - don't really know any good alternatives20:27
stat_enomanish, 4,5Gb and i tried to burn 4Gb too20:27
trismKirsch: *shrugs*, you could always just add a chmod to rc.local, not exactly the nicest solution though20:27
Kirschtrism: thats what i'm going to do for now, i just wanted to poke around here to see if i can find out why it happened20:28
manishstat_eno: try burning lower than 3.6 G20:28
ZykoticK9Sandy80d, try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" then try "startx" in a console <- just to see what happens20:28
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fearfuldmpjk, yea thank you very much pulse worked beautifuly20:28
wilecoyte78!help20:28
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)20:28
dmpjkfearful: in the future i will not upgrade as fast, i will use qemu or virtualbox to test the latest ubuntu20:28
trismKirsch: someone else was having the same problem the other day with a VPS, wonder if it is the same host20:28
manishstat_eno: just remove 400MB data and see20:28
Kingsy102ZykoticK9 - thanks20:28
stat_enomanish, ok..20:28
Panzerok trying to install the driver for the RTL8101E getting r8101.ko no such file error20:28
Kirschtrism: its VPSLink20:28
manishstat_eno: the k3b should enable the disk20:28
Panzer9.0420:29
fearfuldmpjk, well at first it worked fine with hdw intel (0) settings, just all of the sudden didnt work, changed all to pulse and now it works fine20:29
trismKirsch: do they have prebuilt images or do you install it yourself? you might want to contact your provider about it if they are prebuilt20:29
dmpjkfearful: should you try wine and skype for windows there is the problem of wine not being able to emulate alsa very good20:30
fearfuldmpjk, thanks20:30
erUSULPanzer: those cards use r8169 afaik20:30
dmpjkfearful: i didnt give any help..20:30
stat_enosee you later20:30
Kirschtrism: they do and one of the things i recently changed was the path to the repos, it referenced a local VPSLink repository20:30
Kirschtrism: i wonder if they tamper with packages, but everything else is perfect, except this.20:30
PanzererUSUL: all the forums say r8169 is not the right driver for the card.  r8168 is the correct stuff.20:30
trismKirsch: that could be the case, i would email support about it20:31
fearfuldmpjk, well i just switched all of the to pulse because you said skype had changed to pulse20:31
Kirschtrism: they don't have suppport and they'll tell me to change it back, i honestly don't want to cause theyremove a lot of packages i needed, like perlmagick20:31
budobullSometimes when I watch eg. youtube videos. I only get sound in one of my speakers (just two stereo speakers). Using soundblaster audigy and ALSA (i think atleast...). Is this a common problem amongst newbies? Google didn't help me much.20:31
dmpjkfearful: ok, i tried to use skype at the beginning of oct, it didnt go well at all20:32
trismKirsch: ahh20:32
erUSULPanzer: some people that have problems with 8169 try with the realtek suplied (does not come with ubuntu) 8168. but anyway r8101.ko does not exist at all20:32
dmpjkfearful: maybe skype has a new update or version20:32
fearfuldmpjk,  I've had the same for a quiet a while what was wierd is that it worked one way and now the other but I guess its just weird like that20:33
dmpjkfearful: ok cu20:33
Kirschtrism: when does rc.local load?20:34
Sandy80dZykoticK9, tried "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" then "startx" in a console, get a blank screen, this time without even the mouse pointer20:34
trismKirsch: loads last I believe20:34
Kirschonly once?20:34
Kirschtrism: i use simplifymedia, dunno if u know what it is20:34
Kirschtrism:  and i wanan start that service at boot also, but it doesn't have an init script, i just need to run a command, can i put it in this file too?20:35
Sandy80dShould i try to reset my GDM settings somehow, if so how?!20:35
lstarnesKirsch: only once, immediately after the remaining init scripts20:35
Kirschlstarnes: ok great, then that should be good then, this is for a different box tho20:35
lstarnesKirsch: if it's something that doesn't run as root, you may want to put it in a crontab entry with a time of @reboot20:35
Sandy80danyone able to help me with a broken GDM?20:36
ZykoticK9Sandy80d, is you system up to date?  "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"  I'm sorry I don't have any other ideas right now.  You really need to get some sort of Xorg logs (not sure which one) it give the channel more of a hint as to what's wrong.  Best of luck to ya.20:37
monsterSandy80d: whats wrong with xorg?20:37
Kirschlstarnes: it actually needs to run as root ,s othats ok, but the crontab may be something that would work better20:38
Kirschlstarnes: i didn't know u could do @reboot in crontab20:38
Sandy80dmonster: when trying to start gnome i just get blank screen with mouse pointer20:38
monsterfrom boot?20:38
Sandy80dyes20:39
monsterdisable apci20:39
Sandy80dwhere do i do that?20:39
edem+120:39
monsterare you using a livecd?20:39
edem+i20:39
Sandy80di am writing from a different computer20:39
Kirschlstarnes: i did a quick google search, is it just @reboot <my command> casue i see al ot of stuff where people put @reboot user command20:39
Travis-42How would I use "cp" to make a copy of all of the files in the current directory and append ".bak"?20:40
wilecoyte78!help20:40
lstarneswilecoyte78: that doesn't work20:40
WanHouselstarnes: "time of @reboot" ?20:40
monsterSandy80d: are you trying to run the LIVECD that fails to load xwindows?20:40
lstarnesWanHouse: just ask your question20:40
martianlobsterhow do I do a screendump in ubuntu?20:40
monsteror is it a full install that never work?20:40
lstarnesWanHouse: sorry, that was for wilecoyte7820:40
monsterdid it work at one point?20:40
lstarnesWanHouse: I was referring to using @reboot as the time in crontab20:40
Sandy80dno i can boot livecd ok, but my ubuntu install will not boot from HDD20:40
lstarnesKirsch: it's @reboot command20:40
WanHouselstarnes: Im glad it was.20:41
ZykoticK9Travis-42, "for file in * ; do cp $file $file.bak ; done" but that won't work for files with spaces...20:41
Travis-42ZykoticK9: ah, I didn't think of doing something like that, thanks20:41
lstarnesZykoticK9: for file in *; do cp "$file" "$file.bak"; done20:41
WanHouselstarnes: This interrests me. You can write "@reboot" to have cron run the command at shutdown/reboot ?20:41
Kirschlstarnes: ok cool20:42
lstarnesWanHouse: no20:42
PanzererUSUL: getting pretty much the same error with r8168  r8168.ko does not exist20:42
lstarnesWanHouse: @reboot runs when cron starts when the system starts20:42
Sandy80dmonster: any ideas?20:42
monsterSandy80d: read this20:42
monsterhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93546120:42
WanHouselstarnes: Ah, theres no @shutdown ?20:42
lstarnesWanHouse: no20:42
monsteronce it hits the grub menu at boot20:42
monsterhit E20:42
lstarnesWanHouse: see man 5 crontab20:42
monsterto edit it20:42
erUSULPanzer: how you try to load the module ? is « sudo modprobe r8169 »20:42
HillshumKeyserver.ubuntu.com seems to be down20:42
monstertry that20:42
WanHouselstarnes: I could use that. It would be easy to shedule backups etc with that.20:43
Noggahello everyone20:43
guntbert!hi | Nogga20:43
ubottuNogga: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!20:43
NoggaI think I completely messed up my wifi by trying to set it to master mode :(20:43
PanzererUSUL: yea that works.  it will load the r8169 module.  But the card is a r8101E and does not work on the r8169 module20:43
NoggaI got a Atheros 242x card running (in my Acer Revo Atom computer...)20:44
erUSULPanzer: ok this is what it says in the driver r8169.c: RealTek 8169/8168/8101 ethernet driver.20:45
erUSULPanzer: so those chips are supported by this driver...20:45
erUSULPanzer: or at least should20:45
M-a-r-kYou've broken flash >:o20:45
Sandy80dmonster: hitting E at grub loading screen doesnt do anything20:45
wilecoyte78I am running ubuntu jaunty 9.04 kernel 2.6.28-15-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 9 10:49:34 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9460 I have dual heads on I am using an ati hd 4890 graphics card I set everything up properly but it gives me two X windows one can have the compiz cube but the other does not. What I want is to have one big desktop.20:46
Sandy80ddo you mean Esc20:46
monsterSandy80d: it should tell you to hit something to edit it20:46
monstertry again20:46
monsteryou can hit pause on the keyboard to read it20:46
PanzererUSUL: I know it SHOULD work.  But it does not.20:46
Panzersee http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4210510#post4210510 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84339820:47
HillshumIs anyone else having issues with keyserver.ubuntu.com ?20:47
guntbertHillshum: you can use nearly every other gpg keyserver as well20:47
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Sandy80dmonster: which line do i want to edit...uuid, kernel, initrd or quiet?20:48
monsterlet me check mine hold20:48
monsterSandy80d: at the end of the kernel line20:49
monstermake sure its the default one20:50
Sandy80dok thx20:50
monstertop one should be default20:50
giorgoseeeeeeeeeeee20:51
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Kirschlstarnes: i rebooted my server and i put @reboot <command> and it didn't do it20:51
Sandy80dmonster: I turned acpi off, still the same20:52
craigbass1976I'm looking to get a dell 5330dn laser working with Ubuntu, over a network.  Anyone had any luck?20:52
Icychillcan anyone help me im trying to bridge my wifi connection to my xbox360?20:53
monsterSandy80d: once you get to the screen with just the mouse20:53
monsterif you hit num lock20:53
monsterdoes the light go on and off20:53
monsterwhen you hit it a couple times20:53
giorgosvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv20:53
guntbertgiorgos:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?20:53
Sandy80di'll try...20:53
monsterok20:54
Sandy80dhis v key is stuck:)20:54
Sandy80dmonster: yeah numloack light works20:55
ccb0x45 hey... this probably isnt the right place to ask but I was wondering if anyone pretty familiar with Ldap could help me understand something...20:55
monsterSandy80d: ok do this alt+ctl+f120:55
monsterthat should give you a console screen20:55
Sandy80ddone20:55
monsterlogin20:55
ubottuError: You are not identified20:55
Sandy80dyup20:55
nsgnat the bash shell i'm trying to run 7zip as my local user (not root), but save to a folder in the root of the drive. the folder is owned by this local user with read/write permissions. 7zip says "cannot open file backup.7z.temp when i run it. wtheck gives?20:55
ccb0x45I am trying to set up the directory server in a way so I assign a temporary password and force the user to change their password at first log in, and using samba share for them to log into, but on windows for some reason it just says their password is wrong instead of opening a dialogue to change it20:55
monstercd /var/logs/20:55
monstersorry20:55
monster/var/log/20:56
ccb0x45where as if I take off the change password at first log in, they log in fine with the same password, so I know that s the problem20:56
guntbertccb0x45: #openldap    might be better suited20:56
stefano_#chiarvalle20:56
monsterXorg.0.log is the file you want to look in20:56
Sandy80di'm there20:56
Sandy80d...20:56
jacquesdupontdhey everybody20:56
jacquesdupontdi have a simple question20:56
monsterpico Xorg.0.log20:56
hsarciwhen i have no network applications open system monitor still reports that im sending/recieving about 100-200 byte/s on average....why is that????20:57
ccb0x45wow hanks guntbert20:57
ccb0x45didnt know there was that chat20:57
jacquesdupontdwhy do pulse still appears in ubuntu audio settings menu ? i did sudo apt-get --purge remove pulse*20:57
guntbertccb0x45: you are welcome :-)20:57
monsterhmm i have an idea20:57
wilecoyte78I am running ubuntu jaunty 9.04 kernel 2.6.28-15-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 9 10:49:34 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9460 I have dual heads on I am using an ati hd 4890 graphics card I set everything up properly but it gives me two X windows one can have the compiz cube but the other does not. What I want is to have one big desktop.20:57
Sandy80di got the xorg log opened not sure what i'm looking for tho20:58
monsteryeah i figured20:58
monsterclose out20:58
monsterctrl+x20:58
monsterrun this20:58
monstersudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg20:58
monsterlets see if that helps20:58
MrSchmohey how do you guy update our linux when there is a new version out. do you do the general let synaptic manager do the upgrade or you do a fresh installation everytime?20:58
Sandy80d...20:59
SikEnCideive got server 9.04 ... everytime i change my /etc/motd file it works, untill i rebot then it gets over written could i have some help please20:59
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trismMrSchmo: I usually upgrade, but I'm going to do a fresh install for karmic just because I haven't in several releases21:00
PiciSikEnCide: see the motd.tail manpage to see what the server does to create the manpage.21:00
monsterSikEnCide: from /etc/ , ls -l |grep motd21:00
monsterto see were motd is linked too21:00
monsterand edit that file21:00
WanHousetrism: Upgrade dood, tis sexxi :)21:00
SikEnCidemonster are you saying that my motd file is linked to something else ?21:01
skylar_Hey, Stupid question how can I play online videos ( youtube ect)21:01
monsterSikEnCide: yes21:01
davidm2010Hi, how do you reinstall apache if you used lamp?21:01
monsterlrwxrwxrwx  1 root root       13 2009-09-14 15:15 motd -> /var/run/motd21:02
SikEnCideyeah monster just saw that21:02
SikEnCidei also get update-motd.d21:02
monsteryou can also just rm motd21:02
monsterand then edit it local to /etc/21:03
WanHousemonster: rm -f indicates a file, hence a better solution.21:03
SikEnCidedelete teh one in /var ?21:03
MrSchmoback when i was using ubuntu 7.xx the upgrade always seem to have some bugs and some program not working. with fresh installation, it clear all of that, but its a plain to reinstallation and reconfigure you setting all the time. are grades still like that? is there any other better way to do this?21:03
tboneI have a little situation that probably is pretty easy to fix, but i haven't done it yet.  I am using karmic and am using a ppa anyway it installs updated dependency nvida 1.95 something, instead of the karmic default.  Now i goto install myth and it wont install unmet dependencies.  I tried to force mythtv-frontend but that don't work.  Suggestions21:03
Picitbone : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.21:04
monsterSikEnCide: delete the link in /etc/21:04
monsterthen just create motd and edit it21:04
monsterin /etc/21:04
bwkleinI am having a regex problem...  I only want to select commas in a file where there is not a space after the comma.  Suggestions?21:04
monsterWanHouse: true sry21:04
SikEnCidehow do i delete the link ?21:05
WanHousemonster: Np, the effect could have been the removal of an empty directory so its not evil.21:05
SikEnCiderm  "link"21:05
dx00Hello! I have just installed ubuntu 9.10 and it won´t install .deb packages... this is what I get http://img21.imageshack.us/i/skrmbildgdebigtk.png/ (not sure what it means in english) is says somethin like: dpkg could not find file identification options for...21:05
WanHousemonster: A directory with files in it could not have been removed that way.21:05
trismbwklein: match 1 comma and 1 [^ ] ?21:06
monsterSikEnCide: rm -f /etc/motd21:06
monsterpico /etc/motd21:06
monstersave file21:06
monsterdone21:06
bwkleintrism: I only want to match commas that are not followed by a space character.21:07
Sandy80dmonster: tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, didnt seem to help21:07
trismbwklein: that's what I said ,[^ ]21:07
bwkleinok sec...21:07
skylar_hey I was hoping someone would be able to tell me what i need to do in order to be able to play online videos  ( youtube etc)21:07
Flannel!flash | skylar_21:07
ubottuskylar_: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash21:07
trismbwklein: although if you're trying to insert spaces, you may need to group the second character so you can insert it in the output21:08
SikEnCideoh thnx monster the link is gone21:08
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monsterSandy80d: Sorry there not much i can do without looking at the Xorg.0.log21:08
SikEnCidelets ee if it sticks on a reboot21:08
monsterdid you recreate it?21:09
bwkleintrism: Yes, I see that you are correct...  How do I do that?21:09
skylar_Flannel, If that involves installing adobe flash from the add/remove or synaptic manager it won't let me.21:09
Sandy80di should be able to boot into livecd and look at the log?21:09
SikEnCideyeah i remade it21:09
ccmiafter trying to configure a printer on a computer cant mount pendrives in it21:09
bwkleinWith...  ,([^ ])  ?21:09
ccmi[pendrive -> usb flash memory]21:09
Flannelskylar_: It does involve installing flash (although I believe gnash will work for youtube now too).  Why won't it let you?21:09
ccminow im connected to that computer with a usb flash plugged in21:09
ccmilsusb doesnt show the pendrive21:09
SikEnCideok it stuck thnx monster21:09
ccmion the morning this was working fine21:09
FloodBot3ccmi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.21:10
bwkleinYou are right, I want to insert a space after every comma that does not have on already following it.21:10
skylar_Apparently because my computer type.21:10
skylar_ amd6421:10
trismbwklein: I think it depends on what you're using, in sed the match would be like ,([^ ]) and you would refer to it as \1 (or \2 for the second group, \3 etc)21:10
ccmiFloodBot1, fu.21:10
Flannelccmi: Please don't be rude21:10
monsternp SikEnCide21:10
bwkleinI am using TextMate on OS X.  The Find and Replace feature allows regex21:11
shentinoHow do I upgrade to a new ubuntu release from the command line?21:11
Jennifer_hello again....well my new driver seems to be working so far....i forgot to reboot last time21:11
SikEnCideare there any special settings i need ot make /etc/ssh/ssh_config to make sure i can get to it from outside my network.  I just reinstalled the box and forget is i made any changes or not21:11
shentinoI'd do it with the gui but my video card's a bit touchy21:11
Jennifer_erUSUL...are you here?21:11
Flannelshentino: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes will link to whichever specific upgrade you're doing21:11
J11Hi, I'm resizing my partitions with the live cd. I already did ntfsresize, so I could change it with fdisk. But that would leave free space before the extended partition. Does this partition have to be moved first or does recreating the partition(keeping the swap partion at the end on the same location) and resize2fs(after turning off journaling) move the inode table to the front? I used to have a good article on this but I can't find it anymore21:11
monsterSandy80d: kinda depends. youd have to mount the root volume to see if from the live cd21:11
monsterotherwise you will be looking at the one from the livecd21:11
Jennifer_but now the streaming video is not fluid....must be because the 3d is not installed21:11
bwkleintrism: I am using TextMate on OS X.  The Find and Replace feature allows regex.21:12
trismbwklein: yeah I have no idea how to do it in textmate21:12
monsterJennifer_: do you have an nvidia card?21:12
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Flannelbwklein: This is an Ubuntu support channel, you'd be better off finding an appropriate channel for your question21:12
jimmy51_can parted resize an ext3 partition without causing harm?21:12
trismbwklein: the sed command would be sed -e "s/,\([^ ]\)/, \1/g" file_name.txt21:12
dx00Hello! I have just installed ubuntu 9.10 and it won´t install .deb packages... this is what I get http://img21.imageshack.us/i/skrmbildgdebigtk.png/ (not sure what it means in english) is says somethin like: dpkg could not find file identification options for... can this error be fixed or should I reinstall the OS21:12
shentinoduh...thanks, should have RTFM :)21:12
Flanneldx00: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic support, thanks21:13
dx00ty21:13
DareDevil0es21:13
dx00#ubuntu+121:13
bwkleinFlannel: I know... I cannot connect to #regex and since Ubuntu is Linux and Awesome, I figured that someone here out of the 1500+ members would know regex.21:13
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Sandy80dmonster: but if i look in var/log/ on my HDD would it not be the right one?21:14
Flannelbwklein: Yes, we do.  Your issue isn't a regexp one, since the regexp we gave you apparently doesn't work.  Also, *especially* because this is a large channel you shouldn't stray offtopic.21:14
nyashIs someone familiar with Postfix? I am succesfully sending emails, but I would like to create 2-3 user mailboxes which I could use to store emails, and then fetch them via Mozilla Thunderbird etc. Unfortunately i got not idea where to start.21:14
bwkleinThanks trism, I am going to look at the manuals and understand grouping better.  Thank you.21:15
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guntbert!ot | nyash21:15
ubottunyash: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!21:15
nyash=(21:15
nyashokay, went a bit ot:p21:15
dermotI have downloaded all of the needed plugins for fire fox to play flash movies but for some reason it wont load the flash video. please help me21:15
Flannelnyash, guntbert: that's not offtopic21:15
bwkleinFlannel: Actually it is a regex problem and trism was very helpful and pointed me in the right direction.  But, next time more on topic.21:16
banishedHi, has anybody managed to get a pinnacle pctv 7010ix working?21:16
guntbertnyash: how is the configuration of postfix ubuntu related?21:16
Flannelguntbert: Because postfix is in Ubuntu....21:16
Flannelguntbert: Don't be rude21:16
bwkleinI will use #ubuntu-offtopic for other things next time.21:17
Flannelnyash: Are you needing three mailboxes for three users? or why do you think you need three mailboxes?21:17
guntbertFlannel: excuse me? where was I rude?21:17
Sandy80dmonster: I pasted the log file to paste.ubuntu.com/297789/21:18
AlexGEWill Ubuntu or Kubuntu work with my system and wich version shoud i take (x86/x64)?21:18
AlexGEMy sytem is:21:18
AlexGEMSI KA790 GX21:18
AlexGEAmd Phenom II X4 94021:18
AlexGEAti Radeon 485021:18
AlexGE4GB DDr2-RAM OCZ Reaper Kit21:18
FloodBot3AlexGE: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.21:18
nyashFlannel: Uhm, perhaps I expressed it in a wrong way. So far I can send email from nickname@mydomain.com. I would like to receive, store and fetch emails for nickname@mydomain.com, so actually one mailbox would suffice21:18
Flannel!postfix | nyash21:18
ubottunyash: postfix is the default !MTA and !MDA on Ubuntu. For help, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto - See also !MailServer21:18
nyashcool, ty21:19
Flannelnyash: postfix will get the mail onto your box, where are you using thunderbird?  You may need something like dovecot to talk to thunderbird once the mail's on your box21:19
Sandy80danyone one else who can figure out why gnome isnt starintg feel free to look at my xorg log:)... http://paste.ubuntu.com/297789/21:20
EukenWitam21:20
guntbert!pl | Euken21:20
ubottuEuken: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.21:20
Panzeranyone have issues with RTL8101 on 9.04 or 9.10?21:20
EukenHello21:21
AlexGEPls help me http://paste.ubuntu.com/297792/21:21
LordBurritoG'day all.  Doing a console (tty) login to an Ubuntu 6.0.1 Server install and I'm missing the bottom two lines of the output.  Help?21:21
EukenWhy we should talk here in English ?21:21
lstarnesEuken: this is an english-speaking channel21:21
nyashFlannel: I would like to postfix mailbox to be accessible from outside, via thunderbird, outlook etc. So far the only thing I had modified was the /etc/postfix/main.conf *or something similar in name* and added appropriate hostnames and domain names. Which in the end lets me send emails21:22
EukenBut ur from Poland ?21:22
nyashthe postfix*21:22
lstarnesEuken: #ubuntu-pl is polish21:22
Eukenok21:22
nt4catsSuppose I want to install a file /var/cache/foo/data-file (made up example) on my machine, and I know that this file is contained in an unknown .deb package in the ubuntu repositories.  How do I search the repositories to find the list of .deb packages that have this data file?  This is similar to how bash suggests missing packages to install for executables -- but I'm not looking for an executable here.21:22
lstarnesSandy80d: you could try moving ~/.gnome2/ and ~/.gnome/ to another location21:22
lstarnesSandy80d: or you could try removing21:22
lstarnesSandy80d: also, you might need to do something with ~/.gnome2_private/ and ~/.gnome_private/21:23
ab2qikHi,  trying to use streamripper to connect to a shoutcast stream and rip. Using Jaunty but no luck. Help!21:24
nt4catsIf this were a Redhat/Fedora/Centos box I could type "yum provides */foo/data-file" and it would answer my question.  (I'm mentioning this not to start a flamewar but to further explain what I'm trying to do)21:24
Sandy80dok, i dont appear to be able to access these folders from liveCD would i have to go to command priompt to remove these?21:24
skylar_wth some videos still won't plat21:24
Flannelnt4cats: dpkg -S /path/to/file21:24
skylar_* play21:24
iraklio_creteehello21:24
Flannelnt4cats: I think that's what you're asking anyway21:24
nt4catsFlannel: I thought that only works if the file is already installed21:24
Flannelnt4cats: It does.21:24
Flannelnt4cats: apt-file is what you want for packages not installed21:25
Sandy80dIstarnes: ok, i dont appear to be able to access these folders from liveCD would i have to go to command priompt to remove these?21:25
Flannelnt4cats: (well, I think it works for installed packages too)21:25
ab2qikTHis was typed at the terminal:  sudo  streamripper  http://www.shoutcast.com/shoutcast_player?stationid=59&Genre=Deep&ContentFlag=1&isCallInternal=&related=21:25
nt4catsFlannel: I don't have the file yet -- and I want to install it but don't know how to search for it.  I'll give apt-file a try, thanks.21:25
Flannelnyash: You need to have an IMAP/POP server on the box to serve the mail to the clients.  Dovecot is one of them21:25
Flannel!dovecot | nyash21:26
lstarnesSandy80d: you could mount your existing installation to a temporary directory in the live cd then look in your home directory there21:26
ubottunyash: IMAP and POP are protocols for fetching email. The officially-supported server in Ubuntu is Dovecot (packages "dovecot-imapd" for IMAP, and "dovecot-pop3d" for POP) - See also !MailServer for information on the SMTP protocol21:26
sven_oostenbrinkQuestion, I need information on a 10Gbit network card that also supports iSCSI.. Could I use such a card for bot iSCSI and normal traffic, or would that require an extra, other, network card?21:26
nt4catsFlannel: ... and I'm not mentioning the specific file here because I am more interested in learning to fish than I am in having you catch a fish for me ;)21:26
kyon-MTfrGood evening, I have a silly problem with a bash script I wrote... can I get some help, please ?21:26
kyon-MTfrthat script is supposed to copy a file to a destination with another file name ; the displayed cp command works when I type it separately, but fails in the script21:26
nyashFlannel: Should postfix need additional configuration, or will everything needed be handled by dovecot, including further configuration if necessary?21:26
guntbertkyon-MTfr: there is a channel #bash :)21:27
Flannelnt4cats: If it's just a rare thing, you can also use packages.ubuntu.com, which has a second textbox for looking for files in packages (basically an online apt-file) since I believe apt-file carries a significant chunk of data with it (all the files in all the packages)21:27
kyon-MTfroh. thanks, then.21:27
Billiardkyon-MTfr: you can pm me about it if you want21:27
nt4catsFlannel: outstanding!  thanks again21:27
safeI'm not able to request a key from keyserver.ubuntu.com, it just times out.21:27
safeHowever, I can ping the server.21:27
Flannelnyash: If postfix lets you recieve email to your server and send email out of it, then yeah, that's fully configured.  Then for dovecot you just point it to whereever your mail is hiding21:27
skylar_assuming i can install FF 3.5 would it be  sudo apt-get update     sudo apt-get install firefox-3.521:27
ab2qikany help with streamripper?21:27
nyashFlannel: Ok, great thanks!21:28
Flannelskylar_: Depends.  What version of Ubuntu are you on?21:28
wawer#ubuntu-pl21:28
guntbertsafe:  you can use nearly every other gpg keyserver as well21:28
skylar_newest21:28
skylar_ 9.04 I think21:28
skylar_Jaunty Jackalope.21:28
Flannelskylar_: then yeah, just install firefox-3.521:28
safeIs there some other way to get a "key"?21:29
rsksafe: it's laggy sometimes, try again21:29
zoraelCan't you add to the packages a launchpad bug affects without confirming that it's been registered upstream?21:30
ab2qikis there a way to get streamripper and kstreamer working?21:30
safeguntbert: Which one would that be? I know of none.21:30
guntbertsafe: try http://pgp.mit.edu/21:30
Flannelzorael: You'd have a better chance of getting answered in #ubuntu-bugs21:30
zoraelFlannel: ah, thanks21:30
skylar_Flannel: says the installation is done however still running version 3.0 after FF has restarted.21:32
cm__list21:32
sun`trying to install Ubuntu 9.10 beta, using a livecd.21:32
sun`it gives Input/Output error.21:32
trismskylar_: firefox-3.5 will be listed as Shiretoko on the menu for jaunty21:32
guntbert!9.10 | sun`21:33
ubottusun`: Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 29th, 2009 - Karmic is BETA and MAY break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+121:33
skylar_trism: thx21:33
sun`guntbert, but now Im facing the same problem with 9.04.21:33
sun`I have installed it on another system with same config, and it installed fine.21:34
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IspaniKabuonasera21:34
diogo_79hi21:35
diogo_79how can i make a program run with my username21:35
diogo_79i have install a program in the opt/ folder21:35
diogo_79the root is the owner and the grup21:35
diogo_79i have modified the sudores file21:36
mario-prkosI dont have audio card detected on my hp pavilion on karmic beta21:36
diogo_79but it gives permission denied when i try to execute the program21:36
kisukediogo_79: at a terminal "su (username) command"21:36
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lstarneskisuke, diogo_79: sudo is not necessary for this21:36
lstarnesdiogo_79: you may need to use sudo chmod og+x filename  on each executable file for the program21:37
lstarnesdiogo_79: that should give regular users permission to run it without needing any other priviliges21:37
kisukelstarnes: as i recall su is switch user sudo is super user do,21:37
trismkisuke: ubuntu doesn't have su setup by default21:37
axi'm tring to get a unionfs mount working, i have the kernel module loaded, and i'm doing this [as root]:  mount -t unionfs -o dirs=/media/external/alex/music-backup/=ro:/media/external/share-audio/=rw unionfs /media/external/share/audio21:38
lstarneskisuke: I know21:38
axany ideas what is up?21:38
lstarneskisuke: but I think his problem needs a different solution21:38
* kisuke facepalm21:38
axi get mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on unionfs .. ..21:39
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sblunixHi all21:39
sblunix:)21:39
mwojciechello for everyone! :)21:40
Koostiheyo21:40
stat_enohi all21:40
switchgirlEEEnight21:41
stat_enoi tried to burn my data DVD-RW but this is the debugging output of k3b http://pastebin.com/m3c7da2c821:43
jimmy51_how does /usr/sbin/sendmail know what server to send to?21:43
jimmy51_i'm configuration an application that wants to know SendmailPath (it's pre-populated), EmailFromUsername, EmailAdminUsername, EmailUserDestDomain.  it seems like that's not enough for it to know what server to send to21:44
Panzerok so how do I file a bug report.21:45
Panzer?21:45
sblunix!bugreport | Panzer21:46
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about bugreport21:46
sblunix!bug | Panzer21:46
ubottuPanzer: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots21:46
Sandy80dlstarnes, I tried removing ~/.gnome2/ and ~/.gnome/ etc but I am still anable to boot into gnome21:48
sblunix!search gnome21:48
ubottuFound: timevault, scanning, code, tar, firewall, burners, sudo, startup, apt, themes21:48
mynmyn21:48
juli4nhi everyone21:48
mynjnhdgyt5rtgvnbvjh21:48
arikrHello everyone! Got this problem: Jaunty on laptop (HP 6735b with 140 Gb hd) root partition gets filled up after a while. Tried reinstalling, tripled size of root partition. Same problem...21:49
Hillshumarikr: I have the same laptop and never had the problem21:49
lxdeuser777im using lxde now21:49
juli4ncan someone help me?? how can i to view the gkrellm on my all desktops??21:50
arikrMy partition is now 10 Gb. What can be causing this? apt problem?21:50
stat_enoquit21:51
erUSULarikr: probably something is spamming your logs until the disk fills up21:51
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erUSULarikr: find the root couse of that21:51
Sandy80danyone able to help me fix my x-org, I am close to doing a fresh install, though i want to avoid this as i have spent a lot of time setting up this install!!!21:51
Sandy80dhere's my x-org log http://paste.ubuntu.com/297789/21:51
arikrIf something is spamming my logs, how do I deal with that?21:51
juli4ncan someone help me?? how can i to view the gkrellm on my all desktops?21:53
* raid1 elloz21:54
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arikrWell, thanks erUSUL, I'll try to test your suggestion...21:55
hey_joewhenever i log into one of my servers, i get the motd and it states "8 packages can be updated. 13 updates are security updates." aside from the math simply not making since in those satements, performing "apt-get update/upgrade" shows nothing available...21:56
hey_joewhats with this?21:56
gpledanyone use puppet?21:57
OerHeksjuli4n in the configuration > general> property's>  set sticky state21:57
mario-prkosi wrote aplay -l and i didn't get no sound card listed on my laptop hp pavilion dv2940 karmic21:57
sebsebsebhi21:57
dragonI need to setup one-way sync from M$ Exchange to iCal format readable by Evolution. Ideas?21:58
carleehey_joe: are any of the upgrades held back?21:58
dahow does one get this computer to play DVDS?21:58
dragon!dvd | da21:58
juli4nOerHeks thanks ;P21:58
ubottuda: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats21:58
gpledda: vlc21:58
carleeda: install libdvdcss221:59
craigbass1976I'll announce this so that it's in the irc log file.  I can print to a dell 5330dn with a hp laserjet 4100 driver21:59
daokay thanks...21:59
hsarcidoes anyone know of an alternative to synergy that is also cross platform???21:59
resnohow do you copy a directory through terminal?21:59
craigbass1976Maybe google will find that for folks.  See you all later.22:00
kane77hi, I'm looking for some note software.. I need something simple (like tomboy) but with more features (such as images and tags) do you know of anything like that?22:00
trismresno: cp -R dir_one dir_two22:00
gpledresno: cp source destination22:00
carleehsarci: read http://ostatic.com/synergy/alternatives/122:00
resnotrism: it was the captial R i was missing!22:01
carleehsarci: i recommend tightvnc22:01
hey_joehsarci, synergy is the best i have ever used. confusing and a pain to setup sometimes, but worth the trouble22:01
hey_joetightvnc isn't a synergy replacement22:01
m0RrEdoes anyone have problem with the newest nvidia drivers?22:04
m0RrEi get some random flickering when e.g. watching a fullhd movie22:04
dragonI need to setup one-way sync from M$ Exchange to iCal format readable by Evolution. Ideas?22:05
kpettitI'm trying to get used to this new Empathy program.  Is there anyway to make new text message popup in a window rather than those bubbles?22:05
carleem0RrE: are you using the drivers that ubuntu provided, or using the drivers that you manually downloaded from the nvidia site?22:05
Take0nI have python 2.5 2.6 and 3.0 installed on my system.. how do I choose one to be default?22:05
m0RrEcarlee: provided by ubuntu, and right now i'm using nvidia-glx-190 from launchpad ppas.22:06
Take0nI am trying to install python-wxgtk2.8 but get errors and I think it's because it's reading 3.022:06
Sandy80danyone able to help me fix my x-org, I am close to doing a fresh install, though i want to avoid this as i have spent a lot of time setting up this install!!!22:06
Sandy80dhere's my x-org log http://paste.ubuntu.com/297789/22:06
RaskHey guys.  As a matter of convention, where in the filesystem would one best put a shared directory that wasn't owned by a user, per se?  Like a library of music files?22:08
carleemORrE: their beta drivers. thats why. revert back to nvidia-glx-18022:09
m0RrEcarlee: is 185 also beta?22:09
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carleenope22:09
m0RrEbecause it's the same with them22:09
SonorKajRask,  //home/user/name of music folder22:10
Guest67994question: I use Ubuntu 9.10. When I try to boot up Ubuntu, it says something about forcing a check and it has tried X # of times to mount some drive. How do I resolve this issue?22:10
carleewhat are you watching it on?22:10
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m0RrEmy 23" lcd display and 40" samsung tv22:10
m0RrEsame issue with both screens22:10
RaskSonorKaj:  But what if it wasn't really meant to be owned by any specific user, is there a more neutral place to put it?22:10
prince_jammysRask: perhaps /usr/local/share22:11
m0RrEsome random "stripe" that kinda "rolls" from the top to bottom..22:11
m0RrEcan't really describe it22:11
Raskprince_jammys: Isn't /usr supposed to be read only though?22:11
haven489does the torrent DLer in Ubuntu DL all and any type of torrent?22:11
trismRask: or maybe create a separate partition for it, and mount it on /media22:11
ageebhow is everyone? I have a quick question about the final release of 9.10.  Are all the updates that are available for the beta after initial install going to be encorporated into the final release?22:12
RaskHmm..22:12
ageebor will they stay as 'updates'22:13
carleemORrE: have you tried http://www.true-binary.com/?p=231 ? the instructions at the bottom of the page22:13
Flaccologyquestion: I use Ubuntu 9.10. When I try to boot up Ubuntu, it says something about forcing a check and it has tried X # of times to mount some drive. How do I resolve this issue?22:13
axisyshow do I let users edit files while git does the revision control in the back .. automated.. so users will only be prompted to add comment when they save and exit.. that's all .. a simple interface22:13
Tm_Tda: welcome (:22:13
m0RrEcarlee: this guy uses svideo, i'm using hdmi22:13
daI tried to instal what you said to no avail...22:14
m0RrEbut the thing is that i get it on my default monitor aswell.. very annoying22:14
erUSULaxisys: maybe a wrapper script that wraps the call to the editor and does the commit when the editor exits22:15
carleem0RrE: what happens when you disconnect the HDMI cable and restart?22:15
carleedoes the flickker still exist?22:16
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m0RrEthe random stripes rolling on the monitors only appear when for example watching a movie22:16
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seyfarthHey guys, I'm looking for a program to block certain websites from being accessed at certain times of the day. i don't control the routers, so that's out. any ideas?22:16
m0RrEand the are completly random, sometimes it takes minutes before the appear22:16
kisukei ran the ubuntu live CD and the atheros ar242x in my laptop ran the n i reboted to do some thing in windows, then rebooted to the live CD and my wireles adapter no longer workshelp please22:16
jribaxisys: there exist a few vcs scripts at vim.org22:17
m0RrEand they can sometimes disappear for minutes just to come back and keep disturbing me22:17
axisyserUSUL: well i was thinking of vim plugin do the work in the background22:17
carleewhats your vodeo card?22:17
axisysjrib: hmm.22:17
carlee*video22:17
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infidif all i want to do is permanently mount my windows share in jaunty, do i just have /etc/fstab use smbfs?22:17
jribaxisys: I'm sure #vim can give you more details about a solution too22:18
erUSULaxisys: yes there are scripts to intigrate git with emacs or vim but they are for the power user not for the "i'm dumb please commit for me" user.22:18
ZykoticK9Flaccology, try asking the same question in #ubuntu+122:18
axisysjrib: talking to #vim guys22:19
kisukecan some one help me get my ar242X wireless adapter working again on 9.0422:20
bitplexHow would I go about removing all package that I have installed leaving only the default ones that came with ubuntu?22:21
axisyserUSUL: this might help if i use rcs http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=111122:21
sebsebsebkisuke: This might be useful22:22
sebsebseb!wireless |  kisuke22:22
ubottukisuke: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs22:22
Raykoid666new Wordpress 0-day exploit! blog post about it + quick fix: http://Raykoid666.blogs.linkbucks.com22:22
jribRaykoid666: please don't do that here22:22
jribactually22:22
Raykoid666sorry22:23
Raykoid666just thought people should now22:23
jribRaykoid666: there are lots of things people should know.  This isn't the right place to tell them though.22:23
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jribRaykoid666: i thought you were some automated bot given your link which is why I kicked you22:24
bitplexAnyone?22:27
kisukesebsebseb: it worked out of the box then i restarted, went to windoze found it quit (in windoze), went back to buntu and quit there as well22:27
giannis /server eu.irc.gr /join #ubuntu22:27
ZykoticK9jrib, linking from this irc channel to money making websites such as this http://www.linkbucks.com should be discouraged anyways.22:27
BluntedBoyWonderhello room22:27
jribZykoticK9: agreed22:27
anteayaI need a driver to read a panasonic 700 mini dv camcorder for streaming from my laptop, where should I begin to look?22:28
BluntedBoyWonderI am thinking about installing VirtualBox on my 9.04.I got an ipod shuffle 3rd gen and I kinda need itunes 9 for the voice-overs. Anyone got any experience with this?22:28
jrib!vbox > BluntedBoyWonder22:28
ubottuBluntedBoyWonder, please see my private message22:28
sebsebsebkisuke: Ok wireless isn't  my area, but  maybe you got faulty wireless hardware.  It's something that came with the lap top which came with Windows?   If so it should always just work in that.22:29
bitplexHow would I go about removing all packages that I have installed leaving only the default ones that came with ubuntu?22:29
BluntedBoyWonderok22:29
ZykoticK9BluntedBoyWonder, be sure to use the PEUL version (includes USB support for VMs) of VBox - add Sun's repo22:29
sebsebsebkisuke: I assume it's a lap top22:29
BluntedBoyWonderok ZykoticK9 duly noted22:30
kisukesebsebseb: yes the ar242x has drivers included as of 9.0422:30
kisukesebsebseb: i restrted my laptop and it just quit in win and linux22:30
sdegutistesthi22:31
sdegutistestwhats up?22:31
AeganSkiesis there any change in power savings for karmic? on-demand caused heating problems on quite a few, including my hptx2000 tablet22:32
sdegutistestim sure there are..22:32
sebsebsebkisuke: Seems a bit odd why all of a sudden it woudn't work in Windows,  unless your hardware is failing I guess, but really you need someone else to help you.   You can wait here and repeate your issue,  and even try ##networking  it might be an actsaul hardware issue, hence issues with both OS's.22:32
kisukesebsebseb: thanks22:33
sebsebsebkisuke: gl22:34
max_ubuntu@all hi22:34
stinkyI dont want to pay for usenet access, can I just make a usenet server with ubuntu and log in for free? TIA for any help :)22:35
Rafayhello people22:35
stinkyhello Rafay22:36
RafayI need some help with 'LiveCD'22:36
RafayCan I ask here?22:36
Garnol9956I got a problem with the following command:sudo apt-get install cvs svn git-core mercurial: it says that svn has no installation candidat. What am i doing wrong?22:36
BilliardRafay: sure whats the prob22:36
sebsebseb!ask |  Rafay22:36
ubottuRafay: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)22:36
* xrandr is away: laying down22:37
Garnol9956i guess its about repositories22:37
Garnol9956sudo apt-get install cvs svn git-core mercurial22:37
juan__hola a todos22:37
sebsebseb!es |  juan__22:37
ubottujuan__: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.22:37
RafaySo, I downloaded the latest version of Ubuntu (9.04) which is about 689MB and I want to dual boot, so I have to burn it. So my question is, would the latest iso will fit in a 700MB disk?22:37
Garnol9956I got a problem with the following command:sudo apt-get install cvs svn git-core mercurial: it says that svn has no installation candidat. What am i doing wrong?22:37
sebsebsebRafay: yes22:38
Garnol9956yes it will22:38
ageebrafay, yes22:38
Rafay698MB*22:38
hunt577Is Sebastrian here?22:38
BilliardGarnol9956: svn isnt an available package looks like22:38
hunt577Sebastian*22:38
ageebi just did it rafay22:38
ageebliterally22:38
sebsebsebRafay: however  it might be a good idea to just wait untill 9.10 now :)  which is released not this Thursday, but the next one, October 29th22:38
bitplexHow would I go about removing all packages that I have installed leaving only the default ones that came with ubuntu? Please somebody help.22:38
hunt577I have an HP Pavilion DV7 laptop, would ubuntu be a good operating system for this computer?22:39
Rafaygood Idea22:39
RafayIn the mean time, I'm gonna try out Ubuntu for the first time on my test computer22:39
Rafay:)22:39
fnordperfecthello! is it somehow possible to allow two simultanously logged-in users run the NetworkManager applet?22:39
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ageebdoes anyone know if the updates after 9.10beta install get rolled into the final release or do they stay as 'updates' to download after install?22:40
RafayYou guys "really" sure it would fit?22:40
Zzeisshunt577: It all depends on the peripherals inside.  It *might* work fine - or you *might* have wireless card and video issues.  The video can almost always be run in a degraded mode (i.e. no accelleration).22:40
jrib!karmic | ageeb22:40
ubottuageeb: Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 29th, 2009 - Karmic is BETA and MAY break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+122:40
hunt577oh ok Zzeiss thank you22:40
ageebrafay, i downloaded 9.10beta today, burned it, and installed it22:40
Zzeisshunt577: The wireless card may or may not work at all.  Some mfgrs make really horrid wireless cards.22:40
hunt577ah22:40
ZykoticK9bitplex, i'm not really sure how that could be done - something with apt-cache policy perhaps?  what version are you using?  perhaps there is a list of default packages somewhere and you could try using a diff to compare the two file?  dunno.  good luck man.22:40
hunt577I can always try it out22:40
Zzeisshunt577: However, a suggestion?  Download a LiveCD of Ubuntu and give it a try.22:40
Rafayokay then22:40
hunt577Thank you I will do that22:41
RafayThanks for helping ageeb and others22:41
Zzeisshunt577: the LiveCD will run VERY SLOWLY compared to the hard drive.  But you can test everything.22:41
sebsebsebRafay: The LIve CD fits on a  standard 700MB CD22:41
Zzeisshunt577: If it works *at all* under the LiveCD, it will work in the full install.  :)22:41
Rafayyeah, I just bought that22:41
bitplexZykoticK9 - thank you for helping - version 8.1022:42
Rafay80 minute, right?22:42
Zzeisshunt577: Another option- do you feel comfortable with swapping your hard drive?  If so, pop in a cheap spare hard drive, and do the install.  That way, you see pretty closely how blazingly fast Ubuntu is compared to Windows.  :)22:42
hunt577One more question, should I get the Beta 9.10 Ubuntu or an existing Ubuntu?22:42
sebsebsebRafay: Before burning an ISO your meant to really md5sum check it, to make sure it's a good download22:42
sebsebseb!md5sum |  Rafay22:42
ubottuRafay: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows22:42
Zzeisshunt577: I'd go with 9.04.  Especially if you are going to swap hard drives before the install.  :)22:43
ZykoticK9bitplex, i just checked my iso collection - but i don't have a 8.10 would have done a vm for the default list but without iso can't really help out :(22:43
RafayI downloaded through the torrent provided on the site, so no need to worry about22:43
bitplexZykoticK9 - its ok, thanks for trying22:43
Rafaybut still, I will run a check to verify22:43
hunt577Zzeiss - I am just backing up all the files I want to keep on a USB thumb drive and will transfer them back on the computer once I have ubuntu installed22:43
Zzeisshunt577: Oh- and even if some thiings don't work in the liveCD or initial install, plug it in to a wired network and do a "system upgrade to newest rev".  Lots of things got to working.  :)22:43
bitplexHopefully somebody else mught have22:43
sebsebsebhunt577: just wait for 9.10, and when you got the final of it, do a nice clean install,  then  nice Ext4 by default a faster file system, and Grub 2 later version of the boot loader,  where as 9.04 Ext3 upgrades don't get that22:44
hunt577oh ok22:44
Rafayone more question, 80 Minute -> 700MB CD?22:44
sebsebsebhunt577: or put  9.04 on in the mean time22:44
hunt577Sebastian!!!!22:44
Zzeisshunt577: Another thing you might want to try is to install a _dual boot_ partition setup.  That way you can still run your Windows install of HALO.  :)22:44
hunt577I have been looking for you22:44
hunt577Do you remember me?22:44
Garnol9956how do i install software from tar.bz2?22:44
Rafayageeb?22:45
ZzeissGarnol9956: You have to unpack it with bunzip2, which is not in the default install.  :(22:45
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trismGarnol9956: you need to extract it with tar xjvf file.tar.bz2 and then follow the directions for the package22:45
ZzeissGarnol9956: so, "sudo apt-get install bunzip2", then "bunzip2 yourfilehere", then work from that result.22:45
ZykoticK9bitplex, to get a list of what is installed you can use the command "dpkg --get-selections > installed-software" if you could run the same thing on a default install you'd know what you have installed since the base setup.  good luck man.22:46
Zzeissgotta run.  This is my train stop.22:46
sebsebsebhunt577: probably22:46
Dark_Shadowyo22:46
Garnol9956ZykoticK9 i need to compile the software i think22:46
sebsebsebRafay: You didn't have to pm  me to ask for me to answer how fast the download will be,  that depends on how fast your Internet connection is, and to some extent,  where your downloading it from22:47
RafayI didn't asked for it :o22:47
ZykoticK9Garnol9956, yes typically a tar.bz2 would be source code -- perfect world -- cd into the directory and run "./configure" then "make" then "sudo make install" - but that rarely goes smoothly :)22:47
Rafayanyway22:48
RafayThanks for answering22:48
trismGarnol9956: your best bet is to read the README that comes with it, and the docs on the site you got the package from22:48
RafayI hope I'll have a good time with Ubuntu22:48
Garnol9956i know, thats why i am looking for a tutorial but i got stock22:48
Garnol9956ZykoticK9 I dont know whats wrong with this command:sudo apt-get install cvs svn git-core mercurial22:48
trismGarnol9956: and making sure you have the build-essential package installed is usually helpful22:49
Dark_Shadowi have a wifi dangle usb sagem xn-720S i'm using jaunty and ndiswrapper (windows driver) i cannot run it on monitor mode to run airodump :/ can someone helpme!!22:49
Garnol9956yep i already got this one22:49
Garnol9956but i need this package: sudo apt-get install cvs svn git-core mercurial22:49
zymmolllll22:49
zymmoll22:49
ZykoticK9Garnol9956, svn is not available in my install???22:49
trismGarnol9956: those are several version control packages22:50
ZykoticK9Garnol9956, try "sudo apt-get install cvs git-core mercurial"22:50
trismGarnol9956: and svn is in the subversion package22:50
jribZykoticK9: cvs really? heh22:50
Garnol9956trism what does this mean to me?22:50
BlackFLAGi just got ubuntu burned to a cd. i ran it and basically did the test trial and i like it. id like to install it on my computer. currently im running windows vista. what happens to vista when i install ubuntu? does it remain on my hard drive or should i move vista to an external hard drive?22:50
Garnol9956ZykoticK9 ah now it works. The official ubuntu tutorial needs a correction i think22:51
ZykoticK9jrib, it isn't for me22:51
trismGarnol9956: it means, why do you need all those version control systems installed?22:51
jribZykoticK9: ah22:51
jribZykoticK9: I misread the previous line as saying "there are several vcs", my mistake22:51
sdwrageHey guys :)22:52
jribGarnol9956: where is the official ubuntu tutorial you speak of?22:52
sdwrageI need to install some ATI drivers but don't want to settle with the default FGLRX drivers.... is there any other option?22:52
durtBlackFLAG, you will be asked what you wish to do.22:52
ZykoticK9jrib, if you need "svn" i'd try "sudo apt-get install subversion" as well < - not sure about svn/subversion really22:52
BlackFLAG:durt and do you know what those options are? i just dont want to make any decisions that are irreparable22:53
Garnol9956jrib its on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo22:53
trism!svn | ZykoticK922:53
ubottuZykoticK9: svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/22:53
SnakDoci am running karmic anyone know why i would have a little mouse showing while it boots and how to change that to default22:53
duffydackhow can I change the language of a user in ubuntu server?22:53
jribGarnol9956: it's a wiki, you can fix it!22:53
durtBlackFLAG, if you're really woried about screwing it up, do a backup first....er, can't remember what it actually says.22:53
BlackFLAGshould i backup vista as a whole on my external?22:54
jrib!karmic | SnakDoc22:54
ubottuSnakDoc: Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 29th, 2009 - Karmic is BETA and MAY break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+122:54
ZykoticK9jrib, you catch that ubottu message to me from trism?  that was for you.22:54
BlackFLAGi only backed up my music and other programs that i use alot22:54
jribZykoticK9: thanks22:54
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safeOk, I need serious help. Under the gnome menu, all my applications have disappeared, my whole configuration of gnome is wiped out.22:54
safeIs there anyway to roll back to a previous state?22:54
jribsafe: create a fresh new user and see if the problem persists22:55
sdwrageCan anyone help me with my above issue?22:55
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BilliardBlackFLAG: ive never had problems resizing partitions, but if there is power loss or something it could get corrupted22:56
jrib!anyone | sdwrage22:56
safejrib: Will try. I can't even reach the logout, etc in System.22:56
jrib!helpme | sdwrage22:56
ubottusdwrage: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?22:56
ubottusdwrage: Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience22:56
jribsafe: use tty122:56
Bhagavatbuenas tardes22:57
sdwragejrib, I asked the question22:57
BlackFLAGyeah id like to do a dual boot but i only have 71 gb free left out of my 175 gb drive C:. is that enough to partition the drive and run two OS' with system performance not being bogged?22:57
jribsdwrage: right, but you should just repeat it since most people are not going to bother looking for it and there are new people that joined that can't scroll up and read it22:58
sdwragek22:58
sdwrageI need to install some ATI drivers but don't want to settle with the default FGLRX drivers.... is there any other option?22:58
jribsdwrage: just make sure you wait 10-15 minutes between repetitions22:58
sdwragek22:59
jrib!ati > sdwrage22:59
ubottusdwrage, please see my private message22:59
jribsdwrage: see if that helps22:59
sdwragek22:59
jribk22:59
duffydackno one know how to set a users locale/language in ubuntu server?22:59
Garnol9956jrib the tutorial i sent you is very confusing22:59
jribsdwrage: set LANGUAGE I think22:59
BilliardBlackFLAG: im running ubuntu with less than 10 GB, runs fine22:59
jribsdwrage: ack ignore me.  duffydack: set the LANGUAGE environment variable22:59
Garnol9956can you tell me a easier way to follow this waytrough:http://aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=ipw394522:59
sdwragejrib, thx ill have a look23:00
duffydackjrib, do you know what that would be exactly for spanish?23:00
jribduffydack: or maybe LANG.  easy way is to change it using gdm and then check the user's environment I guess23:00
duffydackjrib, no X/GDM here23:01
duffydackjrib, just want it for ssh etc.23:01
duffydackI`m stumped, without a gui lol.23:01
ejvFirefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.23:01
ejvcan't start firefox :\23:02
ejvand it's not running, how do I stomp this bug23:02
ZykoticK9ejv, "killall -9 firefox" in a terminal23:02
jribduffydack: #ubuntu-es probably knows right away what it's called23:02
ejvfirefox: no process killed23:02
ejv[1]+  Done                    firefox23:02
ejvdidn't work :\23:03
jribduffydack: if you have no luck there, some switch to the "locale" command should list locales23:03
safeDoing a new user did it, I got all my applications and everything back to normal.23:03
safeBut I don't want to lose the configurations that are left with my old user.23:03
ZykoticK9ejv, "ps aux | grep firefox" or just try firefox-bin -- what version of ff you using?23:03
jrib!who | safe23:03
ubottusafe: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)23:03
ejvusing 3.523:03
safejrib: you. ;)23:03
ejv3679  0.0  0.0   4212   708 pts/3    S+   18:03   0:00 grep firefox23:03
ZykoticK9ejv, different name then hold a sec23:03
jribsafe: right, so now we know it's just a configuration issue.  Try renaming ~/.local/share/applications/ and ~/.config/menus/ as a start23:04
duffydackjrib, thanks.. I just dont know how to set the language variable for a user23:04
ZykoticK9ejv, "killall -9 firefox-3.5"23:04
jribduffydack: use ~/.profile23:04
ejvfirefox-3.5: no process killed23:05
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ZykoticK9ejv, then try starting firefox23:05
jribduffydack: I would set both LANGUAGE and LANG (you should read « man locale » because I am too lazy to)23:05
ejvstill doesn't work23:05
ejvlol23:05
ZykoticK9ejv, ???23:05
ejvi get the same error23:05
bob99If I have a folder with a bunch of svn-base files in it, how do I load these into a proper svn directory or create a proper file tree format out of it?23:05
ejvFirefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.23:05
bob99All the .c and .h files are out of order23:06
KnifeySpooneyIs there any way to read .SDI files from a Windows boot CD inside linux?23:06
bob99they are supposed to live in certain folders but they are all just dumped into one folder23:06
safejrib: Will do. I noticed I don't have ~/.gnome2 , gconf or gconfd left in my original users folder.23:06
Garnol9956jrib can you help me to install this source code driverhttp://aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=ipw3945 ??23:06
safeIs there any way to get it back?23:06
jribsafe: weird23:06
duffydackjrib, thanks23:06
jribGarnol9956: aircrack should be in the repositories...23:06
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jrib!away > Chybeck`Aw23:07
ubottuChybeck`Aw, please see my private message23:07
Garnol9956and whats about the specific drivers for my chipset?23:07
Garnol9956i had to look for very special drivers -- the ipw394523:07
ZykoticK9jrib, it appears to be "apt-cache search aircrack" it's not called aircrack though...23:08
jribZykoticK9: tell Garnol9956 :)23:08
Garnol9956i found it23:08
Garnol9956but still there is my question about the specific drivers i need23:09
Garnol9956i was told to have a very detailed look at chipsets23:09
jrib!enter | Garnol995623:09
ubottuGarnol9956: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!23:09
jribGarnol9956: you're sure that driver isn't in the repositories?23:09
safejrib: I know. Then it hardly seems worth the time. :(23:09
cipherzhello, anyone have experience with the asus eee 1101 (with gma 500 poulsbo)23:10
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ZykoticK9!anyone | cipherz23:10
ubottucipherz: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?23:10
jribGarnol9956: anyway, what do you have a question about on that page?23:10
safejrib: Thanks for the help anyway, will see what I can do.23:10
jribsafe: any idea what caused the files to disappear?23:11
safejrib: Uh. Now I do, it seems I ran out of hdd space.23:11
jribsafe: ah23:11
cipherzwell the reason for asking the question that way, was because i tried the easy peasy, without luck... seems like its based on ubuntu jaunty which should work, however i have some problems with package dependencies, but thinking about doing a pure ubuntu install..23:11
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safejrib: Is that a common factor? And also, is there any way to get them back?23:12
jribsafe: I haven't seen a full hard drive cause the deletion of files before, no.  I don't know how you would get them back23:13
jrib"them" = settings and stuff23:13
Garnol9956jrib i try to follow this page but i am stuck with the driver because i have to compile it. I didnt fond the ipwraw -ng driver in the repositories. The page again is: http://aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=ipw394523:13
ZykoticK9cipherz, i highly recommend using Ubuntu Desktop full version if you have the space, you can add the NBR interface to the regular desktop if you prefer it.  it's a lot more stable/polished then easy peasy.23:13
jribGarnol9956: yes, what part of that page are you stuck on?23:13
ZykoticK9cipherz, just UNR is you don't have the space ;)23:13
Garnol9956jrib its the part next to "installation"23:14
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jribGarnol9956: specifically, what don't you know how to do?23:14
jribGarnol9956: I assume you can download the driver...23:14
Garnol9956jrib the make command gives errors23:14
cipherzZykoticK9, I have 160gigs so space is not an issue, i just need it running :) ideally I'd prefer debian but seems the poulsbo drivers arent there yet, so opt'd for a quick ubuntu setup23:14
jrib!pastebin | Garnol995623:14
ubottuGarnol9956: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at  http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic23:14
ZykoticK9cipherz, cool.  hopefully it will go smoothly for ya...23:15
cipherzZykoticK9, will try a regular ubuntu23:15
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ZykoticK9cipherz, FYI eee-applet - A systray applet for Eee Pc & eeepc-acpi-scripts - Scripts to support suspend and hotkeys on the Asus Eee PC laptop23:16
cipherzZykoticK9, thanks :)23:16
Garnol9956jrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/297834/ thanks for having a look at my problems23:17
icebreakerOps..Boa noite a todos -)D23:18
icebreaker=-D23:18
jribGarnol9956: did you read the output?23:18
peewhat should I do, to give another user permissions for a programm, which is installed as root. it's unp.23:19
safejrib: I pinged out, did you say something?23:19
Garnol9956jrib the first and last lines, but i didnt find the mistake23:19
jribsafe: I haven't seen a full hard drive cause the deletion of files before, no.  I don't know how you would get them back23:19
Paulo39hi, do you now if is there possible to share a folder in Dropbox with a person who doesn't have an account yet? does she/he have to make an account to be able to access to that folder?23:19
trismGarnol9956: did you install the linux-headers package?23:19
jribGarnol9956: well I doubt the shell remark is related, but do it anyway to rule it out.  Then make sure you've installed the headers for your kernel23:20
HalitechPaulo39, there is a public share on the web interface you can share files that way I believe23:20
Garnol9956trism what are the windows headers packages?23:20
safejrib: Then I will just reformat, it was long overdue. Thanks for your help!23:20
jribsafe: seems like overkill!23:20
trismGarnol9956: linux-headers is the package that contains includes for compiling kernel modules23:21
Paulo39Halitech, yes, i know. but its a work project i have with another colleagues and i want to share files about the project just with them23:21
Garnol9956trism the command is apt-get ???23:21
safejrib: I know I can fix it, but I have all sorts of problem with my setup, it was my first ubuntu install so there's a lot of screw-ups.23:21
trismGarnol9956: sudo apt-get install linux-headers23:21
jribsafe: ah23:21
cirdan_hey all, anyone know much about the 9.10 upgrade? i did it, and now it fubar'd grub up... i've since installed grub2, and it thinks things are fine but it errors out saying the /dev/disk/by-uuid isn't present. it's not23:21
m0r0nEverytime I load aMSN my keyboard starts erasing everything and I can no longer type does this happen to anyone?23:21
HalitechPaulo39, I think they would need an account then to share safely23:21
Garnol9956jrib i tried the make=SHELL ..... same result23:22
Halitech!9.10 cirdan_23:22
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about 9.10 cirdan_23:22
cirdan_:)23:22
Halitech!9.10 | cirdan_23:22
ubottucirdan_: Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 29th, 2009 - Karmic is BETA and MAY break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+123:22
pee(00:19:07) pee: what should I do, to give another user permissions for a programm, which is installed as root. it's unp.23:22
m0r0nEverytime I load aMSN my keyboard starts erasing everything and I can no longer type does this happen to anyoneth?23:22
Paulo39Halitech, ok, thanks23:22
cirdan_ok but since it's a grub issue i thoguth i could ask here23:22
m0r0nWoops.23:22
Halitechcirdan_, 9.10 is using grub2, 9.04 uses grub so the people in #ubuntu+1 would have more info23:23
Halitechm0r0n, I cant get mine to connect today but prior to that, no issues23:23
Garnol9956trism i am told to select "one" to install -- i just try to install every?23:23
trismGarnol9956: you want the one for your current kernel23:24
trismGarnol9956: uname -a will print the info about your running kernel23:24
kandjaris there a know bug using nautilus to transfer files between different computers??? I was having issue thinking my wifi connection sux while transfering files from a remote desktop to my laptop using nautilus (transfer as low as 3Kb/s); well i rescently tried with scp and it's working like a charms (600 to 700kb/s)23:24
AiluroMy 9.04 AMD install is not working from CD, and I'd like to try a USB install to rule out a problem with my CD burner.  However, the usb-creator.exe file indicated on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick does not appear on the amd64 install CD. Is there an alternate location to find this program?23:27
thijs_Hi23:27
mrakhello23:27
HalitechAiluro, unetbootin23:27
HalitechAiluro, actually, does 9.04 have a builtin creator?23:27
AiluroHalitech, I am sorry but I do not understand the question.23:28
mrakwhen i have tried to client part of veejay i got this error23:28
mrak/usr/include/bits/fcntl2.h:51: error: call to ‘__open_missing_mode’ declared with attribute error: open with O_CREAT in second argument needs 3 arguments23:28
mrakdo you have anybody idea where is the problem and how can i fix it ?23:28
Garnol9956trism it says linux-headers-2.6.31-11-generic is already the newest version23:28
HalitechAiluro, I thought 9.04 had a built in usb disk creator23:28
thijs_question, i just upgraded my laptop from 8.10 to 9.04, but now it won't boot anymore. Can't get in to recovery mode, it hangs on loading hardware drivers23:29
thijs_What would I do about this? I would like to be able to boot my laptop again23:29
AiluroHalitech, if so I do not know where to find it.  This is the first time I have tried to install Ubuntu.  I downloaded the amd64 .iso and burned it to CD, but the installation process fails with a fatal error from modprobe.23:30
HalitechAiluro, do you have ubuntu installed now?23:30
Ailuro(For that matter, testing CD integrity fails with the same error. MemTest+ worked fine)23:30
trismGarnol9956: you may want to ask in #ubuntu+1, the latest kernel in jaunty is 2.6.28-1523:30
AiluroHalitech, I do not. I burned the CD using Roxio Easy CD Creator 5 on Windows 2000 Professional (NT5)23:31
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HalitechAiluro, ok, use unetbootin in windows to install ubuntu23:31
AiluroHalitech, the computer to which I am installing is brand new, constructed last night.23:32
HalitechAiluro, so there is no operating system on it now?23:33
Blueywhat is the channel name for ubuntu 9.10?23:33
BilliardBluey: ubuntu+1 i think23:33
AiluroHalitech, thank you.  Are there any gotchas in the Unetbootin USB creation process, or are the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick accurate? (Yes, no OS on the computer, new SATA hard drive fresh out of the bag.)23:34
Blueyi just installed 9.10 and I am having problems --23:34
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Garnol9956trism ok23:34
Garnol9956trism thnx23:34
thijs_Bluey, /j #ubuntu+123:34
Blueyahh sorry23:34
thijs_np23:35
thijs_question, i just upgraded my laptop from 8.10 to 9.04, but now it won't boot anymore. Can't get in to recovery mode, it hangs on loading hardware drivers. anyone got any tips on how to even get to a shell ?23:35
HalitechAiluro, not that I know of23:35
koshariAiluro just make sure the partition on the usb key is fat3223:36
Billiardthijs_: i would backup data and reinstall23:37
Halitechthijs_, can you boot from a live cd and run fsck on the drive?23:38
thijs_Billiard, alright... Well i tried reinstalling ten times, always does, kinda.. :P23:38
thijs_Halitech, i haven't done that yet, does that work even  ?23:39
Halitechthijs_, it should as long as you specify the correct drive23:39
thijs_oh, and yeah, i don't have a livecd atm.. :P23:39
Halitechthijs_, what kind of laptop and what kind of video card?23:40
AiluroWhile I am creating the USB installation, any hints on what "modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/modules.dep: No such file or directory" indicates?23:40
synackfinis there any way to make cp or rsync pre-allocate the files they're copying so it doesn't fragment?23:40
thijs_ati radeon mobility hd 340023:40
Halitechthijs_, did you install the ati drivers before you rebooted?23:41
thijs_ehh, no.. =/23:41
HagusDoes Action_parsnip come into this channel?23:42
Halitechthijs_, ok, then it shouldn't be an issue with the ati drivers23:42
dragonkhhi23:43
thijs_Halitech, does that mean i didn't install the ati drivers on 8.10, or after the 9.04 install?23:43
thijs_because i did install them on 8.1023:43
dragonkhI just installed ruby from source on my ubuntu server as root - but my reqular users cant use any of the gems like rake- they get permission denied - what perms do I need to set on my /usr/local/bin dir ?23:43
resno_Hagus: i believe so.23:44
Halitechthijs_, the ati drivers were better in 8.10 and below, when 9.04 introduced the new version of Xorg, things started breaking, especially for cards under the HD series23:45
Hagusresno_: I just wanted him to know that a tip he gave worked very nicely :)23:45
photonwhat's this awesome theme: http://imagebin.org/68562 ?23:45
roracle82hey guys i have this school project and i was wondering if i could use screenshots of ubuntu for the project.  it's supposed to be a user's manual for technical writing23:45
ne0futurhi all, searching for config tools for ubuntu I found ubuntu-manager ( http://ubuntu-manager.tavux.info )23:45
Gummiroracle82, what is the problem?23:45
ne0futuris it stable ? why is it not in the default sources.list ?23:46
thijs_Halitech, auch, alright, so how would i fix this? because installing 9.04 from livecd gave me the same problem23:46
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ne0futuror does ubuntu have another tool like this ?23:46
Gummiroracle82, the screenshot button is above Insert button, between F12 and scroll lock23:46
Halitechthijs_, don't use 9.0423:46
roracle82i know this, i just didn't know if it was okay to do such a thing, though i figured it was23:46
thijs_Halitech, should i try 9.10?23:46
roracle82just covering my butt is all23:47
Halitechthijs_, worth a shot23:47
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Gummiroracle82, just change the default theme, so it doesnt look this bad :D23:47
roracle82lol, right?23:47
Halitechthijs_, although 9.10 is using the newer version of Xorg so it may not work either unless the open source drivers are better23:47
HagusI was using powerpoint/impress on a desktop ubuntu9.04 to create a presentation using vista on a laptop and I needed to eliminate undesired whitespaces.23:47
thijs_Halitech, alright, will try that this weekend, got no livecds here right now, so none os to download and mount them into my cd drive23:48
roracle82haha, okay thanks guys23:48
thijs_aw..23:48
Gummiroracle82, yes but I urge you to do that23:48
HagusBy using oo3 on both desktop and laptop, the problem was resolved.23:48
thefirstdudewhy is apollon not in the repo anymore, where can I get a deb for it?23:48
* xrandr is back23:48
Andorin!ubuntu23:48
ubottuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com23:48
thijs_Halitech, I was just upgrading because 8.10 was also failing on me with random freezes all the time..23:48
sblunixHey all?23:48
annoso in 9.10 ConsoleKit still spawns masses of threads. i don't need X or dbus anyway, so are there any drawbacks when i simply uninstall consolekit?23:48
Flannelanno: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic support, thanks23:48
Hagusubuntu9.04 is a very usable and charming system.23:48
Halitechthijs_, got a copy of 8.04?23:49
Neviyabonsoir il y a des francaçais ici ?23:49
sblunix!fr | Neviya23:49
thijs_Halitech, yes, but i lent it to a friend. -.=23:49
ubottuNeviya: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr23:49
Neviyaje sais mais il n'est pas accessible23:49
annoFlannel: err. the same "problem" exists in 9.04, it isn't that karmic-specific O_O23:49
sblunixd'accord23:49
sblunixun moment s'il-vous-plait23:49
Neviyathx23:49
Halitechthijs_, I know its an older version but I would go with it, seemed the most stable to me23:49
WanHouseTesting 1 2 323:49
HalitechD-23:50
WanHouseThx, wonder though.23:50
NeviyaNeviya-nux23:50
Neviyail est partout23:50
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progesteroneHow can I bind permanently like this ... >alias 'll=ls -l' so that I don't need to do alias everytime I open terminal?23:50
thijs_Halitech, thank you for your time. This weekend i'll buy some new cds.. though pretty bad 'bout the driver issue.23:50
trismprogesterone: add it to .bashrc23:50
prince_jammysprogesterone: put it in your ~/.bashrc23:51
prince_jammysprogesterone: or uncomment it there, since it's likely there already as a comment.23:51
thijs_Halitech, you see there's someone who got it working on 9.04, but the problem is, my laptop doesn't show me a terminal, which leaves me to a dead end on the tutorial23:51
Halitechthijs_, yeah, bad timing by ati, xorg and everyone at the same time to leave old ati cards and their users out in the cold so to speak23:51
bartekHey there. I just switched my dual monitor setup from using my TV to another regular 19" LCD. Problem is, with the same setup (using Virtual in xorg.conf), the second monitor simply does not work out. It's mirrored first of all, when I tell it not to be and the resolution is a mess. I'm using an ATI card. Any recommendations on where to start on this?23:52
roracle82oh i was wondering, is 9.10 going to detect my windows 7 installation for grub?23:52
livehi everu body23:52
progesteroneprince_jammys trism There're 4 file with that names. Which one?23:52
prince_jammysprogesterone: the one in your home directory. ~/.bashrc23:52
dpandawindows 7 is releasing tomorrow, ubuntu 9.10  in next 8 days & i'm in a dual state of mind :)23:55
roracle82yeah23:55
WanHousetrism: We dislike foul play.23:55
dpandai need to buy a new computer, and i will assemble it myself, so how do i ensure to get compatible hardware23:55
Kuifje111windows 7 has been released to a small public already.23:55
progesteroneprince_jammys cool. It works. Thanks23:55
roracle82see, i have win 7 and xp on this system, but ubuntu won't detect windows 723:55
trismWanHouse: uh, what?23:56
Kuifje111you can download it already with some effort.23:56
prince_jammysprogesterone: welcome.23:56
Kuifje111dpanda: compatible with what? with each other?23:56
skylar_Quick question, one i'm sure gets asked a lot but I can't find a answer I trust enough.  I have a Nvidia Geforce graphics card, and everytime i restart I have to change the "Nvida X server settings" all over again to get my desired resolution23:56
Kuifje111dpanda: with each other is basic computer knowledge, there are probably tutorials on the net. it basically goes like this: you begin with a motherboard and from there all other parts need to be compatible with the motherboard.23:57
teofrenanyone heard of a driver for SIS771 video?23:57
dpandaKuifje111: oh sorry i did not make myself clear, ubuntu compatible hardware, you see i am thinking of going back to ubuntu instead of spending for win723:57
Halitechskylar_, funny enough I was just looking that issue up, check here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1221072&highlight=nvidia23:57
skylar_heh.23:57
snellcodedpanda: i just set up a new comp with ubuntu actually!23:57
dpandaKuifje111: so all regular processor and mobo will be good with ubuntu i guess23:58
dpandasnellcode: oh nice! share the specs please :)23:58
Kuifje111dpanda: I dont think you'll face any comaptibility problems with new hardware, but I am not 100% sure with that.23:58
ZykoticK9skylar_, are you using "gksudo nvidia-settings" when you "Save Current Configuration" - it needs root access to right to /etc/X11/xorg.conf...  good luck.23:58
Kuifje111dpanda: yes, I think so.23:58
skylar_Halitech:  He descriped the exact same problem23:58
skylar_describes *23:58
snellcodedpanda: im using core i5 on asus p7p55d pro23:58
adamsnew ubuntu is amazing23:58
adamsfound a few bugs already23:58
Halitechdpanda, most hardware should be good and only things like the video card (safe if you go Nvidia) wireless and printers may give issues23:58
dpandaKuifje111: yes coz my past experience with ubuntu was not so please due to a very incompatible cheap lenovo laptop23:59
dpandasnellcode: how much for the core523:59
Kuifje111dpanda: yeah, that is possible. as long as you do not have very rare hardware like in laptops you wont face any problems, I think.23:59
snellcodedpanda: cheap23:59

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