[00:00] <KaiForce> took his ball and went home
[00:00] <lotus1231> i dont need wisdome.. i got my own.. i need some hel with this new ubuntu env which is not same as version 7. so well never mind
[00:00] <IdleOne> GingerKid: change your pass and use the server window in the future :)
[00:00] <t0s> lol
[00:00] <GingerKid> Idle, I realized my mistake.
[00:00] <superdome> look guys if ubuntoo gonna be so great, how cum windows 7 is gunna be butter?
[00:00] <bitmonk> you clearly lack wisdom as to how to solve this problem on your own.  you can get upset with me, or you could scream at the otherwise silence on your question. ;)
[00:00] <GingerKid> How do I change it?
[00:00] <bitmonk> superdome: you're right.  go and be happy.
[00:00] <IdleOne> GingerKid: /msg nickserv help
[00:01] <superdome> asking a questin bitmonk
[00:01] <t0s> if i have a 64bit processor but only 3gb memory is it best to stick with 32bit or use 64bit ubuntu?
[00:01] <IdleOne> superdome: ask in ##windows
[00:01] <bitmonk> superdome: honestly, i would say this: windows is half acceptable about one out of every seven years.  in that year they usually gain a lot of support of tech minded folks, then, you are screwed, and you have absolutely no ability to improve upon their failures.  if canonical mess up, you can rebuild the deb. ;)
[00:01] <superdome> no such version of windows IdleOne
[00:01] <KaiForce> superdome:  both will handle 3GB fine
[00:02] <KaiForce> sorry t0s
[00:02] <xadart> Hi, I'm having problems installing ubuntu. I get anywhere from 20% to 55% and it crashes. Has anyone heard of this problem?
[00:02] <GingerKid> Okay, so basically I'm unable to manually eject DVDs recently. I have to do it from my desktop because the button on the drive doesn't do anything. I'm also unable to rip DVDs. Can someone help?
[00:02] <superdome> bitmok, what is canonical
[00:02] <t0s> ok thanks KaiForce
[00:02] <IdleOne> !ot
[00:02] <bitmonk> the people who make ubuntu, superdome ;)
[00:02] <bitmonk> well, the company - there are surely people helping that aren't part of the company..
[00:03] <KaiForce> GingerKid that is a hardware problem, straighten a paperclip and poke it in that tiny hole in the front of your drive to manually open it
[00:03] <maco> superdome: canonical is the company that funds ubuntu development and sells support contracts for ubuntu
[00:03] <superdome> people heping 4 free bitmonk?
[00:03] <maco> superdome: and negotiate with hardware vendors like dell & hp to get ubuntu on their hardware
[00:03] <bitmonk> (and employs a lot of developers that do stuff not already done for them by debian)
[00:03] <bitmonk> (and maybe some debian people?)
[00:03] <resno_> i am looking to do a network boot to a diskless computer. i want to use pxe, is there a way to setup a usb drive to initiate the connection?
[00:04] <maco> i'm pretty sure the majority of ubuntu developers do not work for canonical
[00:04] <bitmonk> resno_: pxe is done by your bios, you shouldn't need a usb system for it..
[00:04] <GingerKid> KaiForce, your suggestion doesn't work.
[00:04] <bitmonk> bios or network adapter, often one and same ish these days..
[00:04] <superdome> how do they ern $ maco
[00:04] <maco> superdome, bitmonk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers this is how one becomes an ubuntu developer. as you can see, it is open to the public
[00:04] <WanHouse> bitmonk: thats Ubuntu ?
[00:04] <KaiForce> GingerKid:  more info than "doesn't work" might help me understand you
[00:04] <bitmonk> i simply meant, a lot of people responsible obviously i slightly overspoke..
[00:05] <superdome> maco, so cud i be 1?
[00:05] <GingerKid> I put the paperclip in and it still doesn't eject.
[00:05] <GingerKid> However, if I simply eject from the desktop, it ejects.
[00:05] <resno_> bitmonk: well, i am trying to get it setup. i know i have to configure the server to handle dhcp, currently I have a router to do it, and am not sure if I want to reconfigure the network.
[00:05] <KaiForce> do you feel any resistance on the paperclip?
[00:05] <maco> superdome: canonical earns money selling tech support contracts. of course you could become a developer!  i'm applying for developer status next month
[00:05] <GingerKid> Oh, great.
[00:05] <GingerKid> I screwed something up.
[00:05] <maco> superdome: if youre wondering how devs earn money... well, day jobs :) ubuntu is what i do in my spare time
[00:05] <bitmonk> resno_: you should be careful about using pxe on a widespread network.  in the past, when i've seen it used, it was a private provisioning network connected only to some switches on build stations..
[00:05] <superdome> maco, what if im a developer & i don even know it?
[00:06] <bitmonk> you set up at a build station, pxe boot to install, then plug into the real network.
[00:06] <WanHouse> bitmonk: There are way many more outside coders that do their thing. I just got unemployed, maybe i can code some after christmas eve or later on the next year ?
[00:06] <maco> superdome: just check out that wiki page
[00:06] <resno_> bitmonk: this is a closed network. i plan to setup myth on it, so the computer in the living room is quiter
[00:06] <nerdy_kid> can only access my ftp server through sftp have been trying for months to fix this please help
[00:06] <bitmonk> if a home network you dont need to be so advanced, for sure, but you will need to reconfigure it to use dhcp to use pxe.. there is no static pxe configuration i know off..
[00:07] <bitmonk> of..
[00:07] <KaiForce> nerdy_kid:  can you re-explain your issue?
[00:07] <resno_> bitmonk: i should deactivate my routers dhcp and configure the "server" to do it?
[00:08] <nerdy_kid> KiaForce thanks for helping, i set up an ftp server (wu-ftpd) and i can only access it (from outside LAN) via the sftp client instead of the ftp client like i need
[00:09] <KaiForce> what do you mean from outside LAN?  from the internet?
[00:09] <JoshuaP0x1> what do you guys use to interface with your iPod? I want to DL podcasts and have them dynamically update and show up in my podcast folder on my iPod
[00:10] <nerdy_kid> KiaForce yes, from LAN i can use an ftp client to access the server, from the Internet i can only use an sftp client. i hope im not being vague...
[00:10] <KaiForce> what kind of firewall do you have?  what is your LAN network #?
[00:10] <bitmonk> resno_: perhaps, sure, that should work fine..
[00:10] <KaiForce> is the server plugged directly into the internet and has a public IP?
[00:11] <bitmonk> consider buying a cheap switch and a second nic for the server, to segment your network, so your dhcp doesn't die when you service your server, so you can run dhcp out of the router for normal use, and on another subnet or a segment for the pxe stuff..
[00:11] <bitmonk> there are many ways you can do it..
[00:12] <nerdy_kid> KiaForce i use ubuntu default firewall (ufw) which is off.  My routers firewall is configured to allow ftp access to my server.
[00:12] <KaiForce> ok, so you port forwarded the FTP port to your server, and you can't connect to FTP from the internet - correct?
[00:13] <nerdy_kid> KiaForce correct
[00:13] <speed_> Hello everyone
[00:13] <speed_> i was wondering if anyone here could help me with webcamstudo
[00:13] <resno_> !hi | speed_
[00:13] <speed_> if any of you have experience with it
[00:13] <KaiForce> nerdy_kid:  likely case is that your ISP blocks port 21.  move your port forward to another port and try that.
[00:14] <KaiForce> if your firewall lets you DNAT from one port to another, otherwise you'll need to move ftp to another port on your server
[00:14] <nerdy_kid> KiaForce ok, thank you very much will try that
[00:15] <KaiForce> sorry to hear you've been beating your head against the wall on this one if it just the ISP playing games
[00:15] <KaiForce> many will also block 25 outbound to prevent hijacked machines from spamming...
[00:15] <nerdy_kid> KiaForce yea, ill be ticked if thats why lol noone has been able to help me
[00:16] <rdehler> looking for a guide on how to get my system working with both ati and nvidia drivers, can someone point me in the right direction ?
[00:16] <KaiForce> yes right over there (points to internet)
[00:16] <rdehler> =\
[00:16] <nerdy_kid> KiaForce thanks a huge bunch :D youve been very helpful :)
[00:16] <KaiForce> nerdy_kid good luck
[00:16] <speed_> nvidia AND ati?
[00:16] <rdehler> correct
[00:16] <speed_> that doesn't make any sense
[00:16] <rdehler> i have onboard ATI and an nvidia pcie card, want to utilize all output
[00:17] <speed_> you can only have 1 primary video drivers
[00:17] <speed_> driver **
[00:17] <rdehler> k, fine
[00:17] <rdehler> i can't even get the 3rd display to show though
[00:17] <speed_> sorry :(
[00:17] <rdehler> i'd settle for VESA
[00:17] <rano> hi
[00:18] <speed_> okay i've gotta go.
[00:18] <speed_> GL
[00:19] <nightshade> whats up?
[00:19] <Random832> anyone know how to make the keyboard work properly with Xephyr?
[00:19] <Random832> geez i'm so lagged
[00:19] <nightshade> no if\deas, compadre
[00:20] <resno_> bitmonk: is it possible to netboot wirelessly?
[00:20] <nightshade> *ideas
[00:20] <enforce1> resno_:  Its not a good idea, even if you could
[00:20] <nightshade> yeah, somebody could hack you by mitm.
[00:20] <resno_> enforce1: why do you say its not a good idea?
[00:21] <nightshade> man in the middle attack
[00:21] <resno_> ah, i see
[00:21] <maestrojed> I am trying to troubleshoot apache. I have been asked to run "httpd -s" but I can't figure out where or how to do this on my Ubuntu install. I am trying "sudo /usr/sbin/apache2 -S". I get "apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}"
[00:21] <nightshade> I just invented a new instrument.
[00:22] <nightshade> two metal rings you put on your fingers, and clack them.
[00:22] <othman> ho to add a command at start up (like mount)
[00:22] <buddha> im new to linux and i have ubuntu now but cant get audio to work what should i do?
[00:22] <resno_> buddha: are you using a laptop or desktop?
[00:22] <nightshade> I think in inittab (/etc/inittab if it's like fedora)
[00:22] <buddha> desk
[00:23] <reuben> right i got a question, thinking about buying a dell latitude e6400, heard about the wifi problems, just wandering if anyone knows when it comes to customising it, if you can choose a diff wireless card type, and would it solve the problem
[00:23] <bitmonk> resno_: it should be, but i wouldn't recommend to run a netboot install wirelessly
[00:23] <dan1357>  test
[00:23] <resno_> buddha: in terminal type alsamixer and make sure the volume is not muted
[00:23] <nightshade> never heard of it.  is it a gaming laptop?
[00:24] <reuben> nightshade: na buisness one from dell, using it for mainly web programming, but needs to be light for uni
[00:24] <nightshade> I've heard that gaming laptops (especially dells) tend to have trouble with linux.  Just rumors tho.
[00:24] <buddha> resno: i dont think it is but i dont really know exactly
[00:25] <nightshade> not really sure what to tell u dude, but best of luck  maybe these dudes know something more than I.
[00:25] <kelly> oi para todos
[00:25] <reuben> i know my mate has problems with his dell, because of broadcom wifi or summit
[00:26] <nightshade> si?
[00:26] <IdleOne> !es | kelly
[00:27] <nightshade> oh, sorry
[00:27] <nightshade> thought somebody spoke espanol.
[00:27] <kelly> vc ta falando para me falar em espanhol ou ingle??
[00:28] <enforce1> Man in the middle attack be damned, wireless is slower than hell.
[00:28] <enforce1> No one likes slow netbooting
[00:28] <nightshade> kelly: native es ingles, mas yo habla un poco de espanol.
[00:28] <eto> hello guys how would you partition
[00:28] <enforce1> use the gui!! :)
[00:29] <nightshade> cfdisk
[00:29] <eto> i wanted to know about sizes
[00:29] <eto> i have 160 gb drive
[00:29] <enforce1> Need more information!!
[00:29] <kelly> nao sei
[00:29] <enforce1> Just swap and install?
[00:29] <eto> and i want as much as possible for home
[00:29] <enforce1> just use the wizard, it does a pretty bang up job
[00:29] <eto> to have it on special partition
[00:29] <nightshade> its really big already, doncha think?
[00:30] <eto> like how much is needed for system and programs
[00:30] <jerknextdoor> i have an older laptop (thinkpad r51) that only has 756mb ram and i just realized that i dont thik 9.04 is using any of my swap.  what is the best way for me to check this and to fix the problem?
[00:30] <jrib> eto: depends on you.  I'd say 10-20gb is plenty
[00:30] <enforce1> For just a system disk, i think 20-30 gigs would leave plenty of space
[00:30] <enforce1> or what jrib said
[00:30] <enforce1> Its up to you.
[00:30] <jrib> eto: my / is 13gb for reference
[00:30] <jrib> enforce1: 13gb used
[00:30] <nightshade> is listening to the who.  rockin' out with my generation!
[00:31] <enforce1> oh
[00:31] <jrib> argh, eto: 13gb used
[00:31] <enforce1> mines quit a bit larger, but it handles a lot of stuff for the hosue :)
[00:31] <eto> nightfrog: enforce1 okay can i specify what partition will be home?
[00:31] <jerknextdoor> eto:  my / is ~10gb and i rarely feel the crunch.
[00:32] <reuben> anyone recommend a light powerfull ish laptop which runs linux smoothly
[00:32] <enforce1> eto: you can. It gives you the option. If you're uncomfortable with it, make sure to use the LiveCD installer... should give you a bit more hand holding :)
[00:32] <nightshade> how do I figure how big my hard drive is w/o opening?  (dont wanna mess w/ laptop)
[00:32] <enforce1> nightshade: Not sure what you mean. Not turning on the laptop?
[00:32] <eto> okay i found it wish me luck
[00:32] <enforce1> eto: GL eto :-D
[00:33] <nightshade> i mean not opening up my laptop to look at the HD label, but using software
[00:34] <nightshade> is kentucky from kentucky?
[00:34] <RadicalR> Hm.
[00:35] <RadicalR> Is nightshade from night?
[00:35] <nightshade> I'm from kentucky.
[00:35] <RadicalR> AH.
[00:35] <RadicalR> I see.
[00:35] <nightshade> radicalR, lol...
[00:35] <RadicalR> I'm hoping someone can help with an issue I'm having.
[00:35] <RadicalR> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1292669&highlight=windows+-read+ntfs <- my computer did this.
[00:35] <nightshade> what's up, rad?
[00:35] <Jay_Matthews> bartle doo?
[00:36] <fcuk112_> how can i get a mouse-clickable alt-tab window?
[00:36] <nightshade> what's the problem, radicalR?
[00:36] <RadicalR> Alright.
[00:36] <RadicalR> I had two disks set up
[00:36] <RadicalR> 1 OS and 1 Data
[00:37] <RadicalR> So in case OS freaks out, I don't lose any data.
[00:37] <jrib> !enter | RadicalR
[00:37] <RadicalR> Ah. Thanks.
[00:37] <smiths> can someone help with Host key verification failed
[00:37] <nightshade> radicalR o...k...
[00:37] <jrib> smiths: maybe, but most likely only if you give some context...
[00:38] <nightshade> radicalR: so, whats the problem?
[00:38] <RadicalR> Anyways, I had to boot into ubuntu and do a forced mount on that HD to access it. However, upon reboot back into Windows, it doesn't recognize it.
[00:38] <smiths> I had to reinstall my new server software ubuntu J and now when I try to connect with desktop ssh it gives me Host key verification failed
[00:38] <jrib> RadicalR: what filesystem?
[00:38] <Random832> so does anyone know how to figure out why i can't resume from hibernate
[00:38] <RadicalR> Sorry, I was typing. Chkdsk reads it fine and xubuntu can access the disk. NTFS.
[00:38] <smiths> I was connected in the past and ip has not cheanged
[00:38] <jrib> RadicalR: why would you force mount...?
[00:38] <nicatronTg> Herro, can anyone help with wifi on Ubuntu server 8.04 LTS?
[00:38] <Random832> ever since i resized my swap drive (to make it bigger because i sometimes couldn't hibernate before if i had too much stuff open)
[00:38] <RadicalR> Well, I couldn't get the blasted thing up and I need access to it.
[00:39] <nightshade> jrib: maybe unrecognized FS
[00:39] <jrib> RadicalR: there are warnings attached to forcing an ntfs partition to mount
[00:39] <jrib> iirc the man page
[00:39] <RadicalR> Hm. Well, I suppose it's a lesson learned. I'll just start backing up
[00:40] <WafflesDr> Hey, I just manually installed eclipse, and now I am trying to get the link working so I can type eclipse from the command line and have it load. If I type "whereis eclipse" it points to /usr/local/lib/eclipse. I have it as a link to the actual file, but it doesn't work. Any suggestions?
[00:40] <smiths> When I connect using terminal in desktop I get Warning: the RSA host key for 'ttsmith.dyndns.org' differs from the key for the IP address '216.110.244.50'
[00:40] <smiths> Offending key for IP in /home/smiths/.ssh/known_hosts:2
[00:40] <smiths> Matching host key in /home/smiths/.ssh/known_hosts:3
[00:40] <smiths> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)  but if I say yes can connect
[00:40] <FloodBot1> smiths: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:40] <jrib> WafflesDr: "doesn't work"?
[00:40] <smiths> when I try to use places connect to server it gives me host key fail
[00:41] <RadicalR> Although, this is the first time I mounted a NTFS partition and had this happen to me. So it struck to me rather odd that it would happen like that.
[00:41] <WafflesDr> jrib, when I type eclipse it comes back eclipse: command not found
[00:41] <RebelZero> smiths, open the known_hosts file and remove the offending entries, lines 2 and 3. when you reinstalled the server os, it was given new RSA keys.
[00:42] <Clayg> I've been out of it for a while.  Do people not listen to podcasts on ipods anymore? I can't seem to find a way to download podcasts, only listen to them on the computer
[00:42] <jrib> WafflesDr: what do you mean by "I have it as a link to the actual file"?
[00:42] <nightshade> [musical note] Join together with the band! [musical note]
[00:42] <RadicalR> Backing up these files are going to be fun. There goes the rest of my night.
[00:42] <RebelZero> smiths, since the new RSA keys don't match the old ones, SSH is letting you know it's not quite the same server
[00:43] <nicatronTg> Here's my problem: I just installed Ubuntu 8.04 (server edition) on a basically blnd box, but I need to get it on the network. I got the driver running using ndiswrapper, tested it, it responds to iwconfig, and I can scan networks, but I'm not sure how to actually connect. The other thing is wpa, do I need to manually install the wpa_supplicant? Is there a decent tutorial on wpa wifi in a server install? It's been around a year
[00:43] <nicatronTg> and a half from the time I last dealt with console only wifi configuration.
[00:43] <smiths> that is the file on my client pc right
[00:43] <smiths> I have deleted line 2 but it never mentioned line 3 in the forum post
[00:44] <RebelZero> smiths, correct... one line was set to the IP while the other was set for the host name, you'll need to delete both
[00:44] <WafflesDr> jrib, I first used ln to make a link to the file, but when that wasn't working I opened two Nautilus windows in sudo and drug the eclipse file over, then use "Link Here". I did this to the desktop and I can double click it and it runs fine.
[00:44] <jrib> RadicalR: what I said is just my guess.  I have no idea if you can somehow recover
[00:44] <jrib> WafflesDr: dragged it where?
[00:44] <WafflesDr> jrib, I dragged it to /usr/local/lib
[00:44] <jrib> WafflesDr: /usr/local/lib isn't in the default path...
[00:45] <RadicalR> Well, I did mention that xubuntu can read it fine.
[00:45] <WafflesDr> jrib, when I do whereis eclipse it returns /usr/local/lib/eclipse
[00:45] <RadicalR> So I'm thinking something went wrong with the MBR. But I don't feel like messing with that.
[00:45] <smiths> what is the command for terminal when I do searches for known_host I cannt find the file
[00:45] <jrib> RadicalR: you might try ##windows too
[00:45] <enforce1> RadicalR: ugh, MBR mucking isn't fun
[00:45] <nicatronTg> RadicalR, try the ultimate GRUB boot disk
[00:45] <RebelZero> smiths, at the terminal just type: gksudo gedit ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[00:46] <RebelZero> smiths, my bad
[00:46] <RebelZero> smiths, you don't need gksudo
[00:46] <jrib> WafflesDr: use /usr/local/bin
[00:46] <RebelZero> smiths, at the terminal just type: gedit ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[00:46] <WafflesDr> jrib, how do I change it?
[00:46] <smiths> going to try it now
[00:46] <jrib> WafflesDr: delete the symlink you made and make a new one
[00:46] <nightshade> RadicalR: apt-get install fdisk.  It's like cfdisk, but it's got more features (maybe it comes with ubuntu, but I haven't had much chance to fool with it.) and I remember there was something there that fixes the mbr.
[00:47] <aperson> does anyone have any guides suggestions regarding how to setup netbooting?
[00:47] <nightshade> it does come with fedora
[00:47] <jrib> WafflesDr: make sure you type "hash -r" after doing so before testing "eclipse"
[00:47] <serp__> hi. when does clojure make it into ubuntu?
[00:47] <nightshade> serp_, what?
[00:47]  * jrib doubts it's an mbr issue
[00:47] <nicatronTg> Anyone able to help or what?
[00:47] <WafflesDr> jrib, alright let me try it out. Thanks.
[00:48] <serp__> nightshade: it seems clojure is not in the ubuntu repositories
[00:48] <nutterpc> could someone pls message me the entry for ppa.launchpad, redid my system last night and forgot to save it (sources.list
[00:48] <nightshade> hold it, what's clojure?
[00:48] <jrib> nutterpc: there's no such animal
[00:48] <nutterpc> damnit, lol
[00:49] <smiths> were would I find that ~/.ssh/known_hosts when looking through gui
[00:49] <jrib> nutterpc: there are several ppa's and if you visit one's page on launchpad it lists the apt line
[00:49] <serp__> nightshade: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clojure
[00:49] <nightshade> brb reading
[00:49] <nicatronTg> Here's my problem: I just installed Ubuntu 8.04 (server edition) on a basically blnd box, but I need to get it on the network. I got the driver running using ndiswrapper, tested it, it responds to iwconfig, and I can scan networks, but I'm not sure how to actually connect. The other thing is wpa, do I need to manually install the wpa_supplicant? Is there a decent tutorial on wpa wifi in a server install?
[00:49] <nutterpc> ahhh k, one tic then
[00:49] <jrib> smiths: ~ means /home/USERNAME
[00:49] <jode> What is a good vnc client?
[00:49] <jrib> smiths: view -> show hidden files since .ssh is hidden
[00:50] <Clayg> I've been out of it for a while.  Do people not listen to podcasts on ipods anymore? I can't seem to find a way to download podcasts, only listen to them on the computer
[00:50] <WafflesDr> jrib, remaking it worked. I'm not sure if I used the -s command last time. Thanks for the help.
[00:50] <nightshade> http://riddell.us/tutorial/clojure/clojure.html
[00:50] <stephans> gpg: keyserver timed out
[00:50] <stephans> gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error
[00:51] <gletob> Anyone else always have problems adding keys from the Launchpad PPAs
[00:51] <awmcclain> Does cron recursively search cron.daily? If I put a symlink into a directory with a bunch of scripts I want to run, would it run them?
[00:51] <nicatronTg> Here's my problem: I just installed Ubuntu 8.04 (server edition) on a basically blnd box, but I need to get it on the network. I got the driver running using ndiswrapper, tested it, it responds to iwconfig, and I can scan networks, but I'm not sure how to actually connect. The other thing is wpa, do I need to manually install the wpa_supplicant? Is there a decent tutorial on wpa wifi in a server install?
[00:51] <stephans> FYI Ubuntu key servers are not working.
[00:51] <nightshade> serp: http://riddell.us/tutorial/clojure/clojure.html
[00:51] <smiths> thanks
[00:51] <gletob> That sucks
[00:51] <serp> eh?
[00:51] <gletob> Why?
[00:51] <serp__> nightshade: sure... but I'd rather see it in the official repository =)
[00:51] <serp__> saves me the trouble of maintaining it
[00:51] <gletob> They having issues?
[00:51] <nightshade> sorry serp, didn't know there were two of you
[00:52] <serp> too many serps
[00:52] <serp__> serp: grr *bite*
[00:52] <serp> :)
[00:52] <nicatronTg> Anyone?
[00:53] <nightshade> serp__: /nick [new nick]  it'll be less confusing
[00:53] <nightshade> keyboardknight, that's even more catchy!
[00:53] <nightshade> nice
[00:54] <keyboardknight> :)
[00:54] <keyboardknight> so how do packages come to live in the ubuntu repositories?
[00:54] <gletob> keyboardknight, You've got to find the Nexus point. duh
[00:55] <GregoryC> keyboardknight:, in a joking sense: "when two compilers love each other..."
[00:55] <nicatronTg> So nobody can help?
[00:56] <nicatronTg> Mk
[00:56] <nicatronTg> Well
[00:56] <nicatronTg> Cya
[00:56] <nicatronTg> #unhelpful
[00:56] <FloodBot1> nicatronTg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:56] <hey_joe> i have i seemed to have deleted the /etc/opt/IDEALX folder with some default samba configs needed to setup ldap... how do i apt-get remove/install smbldap-tools to reinvent this directory and its fellows?
[00:57] <Random832> i can't resume from hibernate ever since i resized my swap drive, can anyone help me?
[00:58] <hey_joe> Random832, mkswap?
[00:58] <smiths> i deleted lines 2 and 3 and it still gives me The authenticity of host 'ttsmith.dyndns.org (216.110.244.50)' can't be established.
[00:58] <smiths> RSA key fingerprint is 42:0a:f6:d2:c9:71:c4:34:ec:62:96:e5:f1:d5:14:43.
[00:58] <smiths> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)?
[00:58] <KB1JWQ> Right.  So say "Yes"
[00:58] <KB1JWQ> Then it'll stop asking.
[00:58] <hey_joe> smiths, what are we trying to do here? openvpn/cached rsa keys?
[00:59] <Random832> @hey_joe, the swap drive works fine when i'm running - it even hibernates to it fine. it won't resume properly
[00:59] <hey_joe> Random832, have you tried re issuing the mkswap command?
[00:59] <Random832> huh? what would that accomplish
[00:59] <smiths>  ssh administrator@******
[00:59] <Random832> the swap drive itself is fine. it's active _now_ and the space shows up
[00:59] <hey_joe> perhaps something important on the swap drive was delete...
[01:00] <hey_joe> and maybe just operating it as a swap is not enough.. in fact recreating the swap structure on the partition/drive?
[01:00] <Random832> that doesn't make sense
[01:00] <Random832> but the fact that it _shows up_ as the proper amount of swap space, means that the swap structure _is_ there
[01:00] <hey_joe> maybe the restore point is kept on the swap drive in an area only access (or perhaps lost after resize)?
[01:00] <hey_joe> Random832, under what assumption?
[01:00] <smiths> if I say yes in terminal I can connect but I can no longer connect using connect to server in places
[01:00] <Random832> mkswap was run by gparted, i saw the log. running it again isn't going to do anything
[01:01] <hey_joe> excellent..
[01:01] <hey_joe> then that answers the first question.
[01:01] <hey_joe> so what does your swap have to do with it not resuming?
[01:01] <nightshade> hey joe, what's up?
[01:01] <Random832> um... do you not know how hibernating works on linux?
[01:01] <Random832> the swap drive is where stuff gets stored
[01:01] <Random832> now, it _hibernates_ fine which is the weird thing... it just doesn't resume properly
[01:02] <nightshade> the swap drive is used as virtual ram.
[01:02] <Random832> the uuid did change after i resized it, but i fixed it in fstab
[01:02] <nightshade> ie. it gets erased every time the computer restarts
[01:02] <nightshade> am I right?
[01:02] <Random832> @nightshade, um, i JUST explained this
[01:02] <nightshade> oh
[01:03] <nightshade> sorry
[01:03] <Random832> when the computer is _hibernating_, the kernel is supposed to pick up that fact when it restarts and load stuff off the swap drive
[01:03] <hey_joe> omg.
[01:03] <smiths> can I just delete all lines in known_host
[01:03] <nightshade> oooohhh...
[01:04] <hey_joe> Random832, this is impossible to diagnose without knowing your hardware set.
[01:04] <nightshade> is that the end of today's lesson, Random832-sensei?
[01:04] <hey_joe> simply asking this question is like asking why we have thumbs.
[01:04] <nightshade> lol
[01:04] <hey_joe> what does the LOG say?
[01:05] <Random832> i don't even know what to look for in the log
[01:05] <hey_joe> ah
[01:05] <Random832> it's not a hardware thing - it was working before and my hardware hasn't changed.
[01:05] <hey_joe> i would start with the time of the said hibernate call
[01:06] <hey_joe> right, however not knowing your hardware kinda limits things as well..
[01:06] <hey_joe> does it happen all the time, or only after short/long periods of time?
[01:07] <hey_joe> have you made any bios changes?
[01:07] <Random832> all the time and no
[01:07] <hey_joe> changed the uid and update-initramfs -u?
[01:07] <CrOnOs> hi any one have tryed karmic ? live cd ask for passwd to mount drives any ideas?
[01:08] <smiths> thanks for the help I needed to delete all the lines in known_host
[01:08] <smiths> all is well
[01:08] <hey_joe> CrOnOs, most likely a sudo action, which would require the stock users password..
[01:09] <nightshade> oh, ubottu...
[01:09] <hey_joe> CrOnOs, usually not a root password, hence the sudo action
[01:09] <hey_joe> Random832, that fix it?
[01:09] <nightshade> bring me lemonade...
[01:09] <nightshade> and... THE WRATH OF BONG!!!
[01:09] <smiths> now could someone help me with my raid config?
[01:10] <hey_joe> smiths... whats up?
[01:10] <CrOnOs> mm ok i try that then
[01:10] <hey_joe> mdadm?
[01:10] <Random832> um, i don't know, as i obviously haven't tried that (since i'd have disconnected from irc to hibernate)
[01:10] <nightshade> bring me your finest herb so that I may smoke it
[01:10] <smiths> md0 : active raid1 sdb1[1] sda1[0]
[01:10] <Random832> i'm looking at that update-initramfs
[01:10] <smiths>       976759936 blocks [2/2] [UU]
[01:10] <smiths> I went through setup in a turtorial it is just for storage and the lonely raid in system
[01:11] <hey_joe> smiths, looks like a raid 1, with 2 disks... seems to be working..
[01:11] <hey_joe> need to mount it, and create a filesystem
[01:11] <smiths> not sure if it mounted
[01:11] <smiths> that is it I had problems there
[01:11] <smiths> the command that was in the tutort didnt work
[01:11] <nightange1> hey im having trouble logging into yahoo on pidgin can some one help
[01:11] <hey_joe> do a "df" command
[01:11] <hey_joe> and see if you have a /dev/md something listed
[01:11] <nightshade> weed's so damn expensive, dude.  I neez money.
[01:12] <nightshade> * needz
[01:12] <hey_joe> if not add this to bottom of /etc/fstab >> /dev/md0 /mount_folder auto defaults 0 3
[01:12] <smiths> just do sudo df?
[01:12] <hey_joe> smiths, yep
[01:12] <smiths> unused devices: <none>
[01:12] <smiths> administrator@ubuntu:~$ sudo df
[01:12] <smiths> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[01:12] <smiths> /dev/sdc1             18833072    999916  16876488   6% /
[01:12] <smiths> tmpfs                  1030904         0   1030904   0% /lib/init/rw
[01:12] <FloodBot1> smiths: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:12] <smiths> varrun                 1030904        76   1030828   1% /var/run
[01:13] <nightshade> smiths: Could you send me a check in the mail for $20?  I'll pay you back.  scout's honor.
[01:13] <hey_joe> omg.
[01:13] <hey_joe> i guess we will never know
[01:13] <smiths> lol what is with the flood
[01:13] <hey_joe> dont paste here.
[01:13] <smiths> LOL
[01:13] <FFForever> do u guys have anything that will run on 64mb of ram?
[01:14] <nightshade> FFForever: DOS?
[01:14] <smiths> hey joe
[01:14] <smiths> you still interested in helping
[01:14] <hey_joe> smiths, add this line to /etc/fstab >> /dev/md0 /mount_folder auto defaults 0 3
[01:15] <hey_joe> and then type "sudo mount -a"
[01:15] <Bluey> trying to find if there is a 64 bit version of 9.10 Beta - this didn't seem to have it:  http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/beta
[01:15] <hey_joe> you might have to use "sudo pico /etc/fstab" to edit the file.. or more unix friendly "sudo vi /etc/fstab"
[01:15] <hey_joe> http://bfish.xaedalus.net/2006/11/software-raid-5-in-ubuntu-with-mdadm/ >> best how-to out there...
[01:16] <hey_joe> skip to the line that reads "sudo echo "DEVICE partitions" > /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf" and go from there.. its like 3 commands from that point..
[01:16] <smiths> I have been using vi
[01:16] <jrib> !karmic | Bluey
[01:16] <hey_joe> best of luck
[01:16] <nightshade> DOS will fit anywhere.
[01:16] <Bluey> jrib: that doesn't tell me if it's 64 bit - but thanks.
[01:16] <nightshade> [whispers to FFForever] anywhere...
[01:16] <nightange1> im trying to log in to yahoo on pidgin and having problems doing so can some one help
[01:16] <jrib> Bluey: it does tell you that the proper place to ask your question is not here
[01:17] <smiths> thanks I have to put the kid to bed then I will try that out :)
[01:17] <Miles__> How can I install a program through a tarball in Ubuntu?
[01:17] <the_dark_warrio> I'm writing a document in OpenOffice and when I export to pdf the images get poor quality, although in OpenOffice they are OK. Any hints?
[01:17] <Bluey> alrighty then
[01:17] <jode> How do I connect to a VNC server that is not on a local network?
[01:18] <vox> nightange1: yahoo has changed their servers - only the yahoo instant messenger works currently, but a fix is being worked on
[01:18] <jimmy51_home> I just added a second monitor to my machine.  I see I can enable it as Separate X Screen or TwinView.
[01:18] <jimmy51_home> which should I do, and why?
[01:18] <nightange1> well that would explain it
[01:18] <nightange1> would i b able to use yahoo IM on ubuntu
[01:19] <vox> nightange1: depends if yahoo make a linux version
[01:19] <nightange1> so only way to know is to DL and find out eh??
[01:19] <Random832> you can connect to it with pidgin even if there's no official client though
[01:19] <JPSman> what sort of technique can I do to find/locate files that are only 4 characters long?
[01:20] <JPSman> is there some regular expression magic I dont know about?
[01:20] <jrib> JPSman: the name or the contents?
[01:20] <JPSman> name
[01:20] <nightange1> well tell that to my IM here cause its not conecting
[01:20] <crazy2k> [  533.830024] usb 4-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110 <---- Does anyone know what these errors mean?
[01:20] <jrib> JPSman: .... I guess?
[01:20] <crazy2k> (full dmesg output here: http://pastebin.com.ar/5412)
[01:21] <vox> Random832: no, you cant anymore.
[01:21] <jrib> JPSman: tere's proper syntax of course but you'd have to figure out the right escaping which isn't worth it in this case
[01:21] <Random832> @vox, eh?
[01:21] <Random832> since when?
[01:21] <vox> Random832: 4 days ago?
[01:22] <vox> Random832: the ONLY client that will connect is the official yahoo messenger.
[01:22] <resno_> is it possible to dual netboot?
[01:22] <GregoryC> and Trillian, in windows
[01:22] <Random832> i don't think there's an up to date official one for linux - there's an ancient one from like five years ago
[01:22] <vox> GregoryC: trillian has stopped working aswell
[01:23] <vox> as has bitlbee and all the others
[01:23] <jrib> JPSman: if you want to use find, you would just do ???? with -name
[01:23] <carter> is this where i go to for system help?
[01:23] <GregoryC> asof now, it shows i'm connected to two yahoo useraccounts
[01:23] <vox> GregoryC: serious?
[01:24] <GregoryC> yes
[01:24] <vox> o_O
[01:24] <vox> didnt work for me an hour ago
[01:24] <jrib> carter: it is, just ask your question
[01:24] <GregoryC> but i'm beta testing Trillian Astra
[01:24] <vox> that's probably why
[01:24] <nightange1> whats that
[01:24] <GregoryC> works great, lots of improvements
[01:25] <JPSman> jrib: its "finding" all of the files, I just want to find the ones that are only 4 long.  is 'proper escaping' the characters necessary for this?
[01:25] <nightange1> trillian astra??
[01:25] <Miles__> How can I install a program through a tarball in Ubuntu?
[01:25] <jrib> JPSman: I gave you two ways.  What exactly are you typing?
[01:25] <jrib> Miles__: same way as any other distro.  But what are you installing?
[01:25] <GregoryC> nightange1: it's a next-gen multiprotocol im/irc/chat client for windows
[01:25] <Miles__> Tucan Manager, jrib.
[01:26] <Miles__> And I'm new to Linux.
[01:26] <nightange1> so it wot work on a lunix based system
[01:26] <nightange1> wont***
[01:26] <WanHouse> Do you want to know what kills the Swine/Bird/Cat/AnyFlu virus ? iTS Salt :)
[01:26] <WanHouse> Or Rhino
[01:26] <JPSman> jrib: well, im using the search for files program, and I tried ???? in the name contains field, but thats finding all files
[01:27] <jode> Can anyone here tell me how to connect to connect to a VNC server not on a local network?
[01:27] <jrib> Miles__: it's in the repositories in karmic it seems, but getdeb.net also has a deb...
[01:27] <GregoryC> nightange1: not unless you had great experience with wine, or with virtualization
[01:27] <jrib> jode: what *exactly* are you typing?
[01:27] <jrib> argh
[01:27] <WanHouse> Rhino Flu beeing the most comon flu kiling atleast a few thousand people that dont feel so good in each country.
[01:28] <WanHouse> killing (ehm)
[01:28] <jrib> JPSman: I have no idea how that program works.  Use 'find' on the command line
[01:28] <vox> nightange1: i'd imagined it'll be fixed in the next week or so
[01:28] <nightange1> i have wine but im new to the Linux  world and im still in my treaing wheels
[01:28] <jode> jrib: I am trying to connect to a remote desktop that is not on a local network
[01:28] <nightange1> training***
[01:28] <JPSman> jrib: ok, thank you
[01:28] <jrib> jode: I meant to send that message to someone else
[01:29] <nightange1> ok here is anouther question that i have
[01:29] <nightange1> how do you start your own IRC
[01:29] <nightshade> I have a question!
[01:29] <carter> i cant get the postgressql server started wont on boot or man on any kernal version what can i do?
[01:29] <Moon> E ae pessoal
[01:30] <Miles__> nightshade, It's like hosting any other server.
[01:30] <Moon> Tem brasileiro aqui?
[01:30] <GregoryC> nightange1: do you mean irc client, or create a new room?
[01:30] <Moon> Acho que não...
[01:30] <jrib> !br | Moon
[01:30] <nightshade> is weed more expensive or less expensive in mexico/general middle america?
[01:30] <Moon> Fui
[01:30] <christopher> how do I kill a process in "Uninterruptable sleep"?
[01:31] <nightange1> like some where that a buch of my buddies from games can chat while playing so that we have real time messaging
[01:31] <nightshade> moon!  Es weed mas o menos expensivo en mexico?
[01:31] <carter> must be in the wrong place
[01:32] <nightange1> so idk i just think an empty channel/ room
[01:33] <Cocoabean> I have 1 actual interface on my Ubuntu machine. I have 4 vlans and an untagged default vlan, all of which are specified to use DHCP in /etc/network/interfaces. The problem is, i end up with multiple default gateways, one for each DHCP server that gives me one for the respective VLAN interface. What is the most graceful way to take care of this?
[01:34] <nightshade> moon, que es el precio del una diez-sack?
[01:34] <GregoryC> nightange1, i'm sure you can find tutorials on the commands and uses for irc on many websites, you just need to do the search. trust me, it's all there
[01:35] <nightshade> en mexico
[01:36] <mgv2> how can i fix a microphone of a laptop that works very low to the point of not hearing anything?
[01:39] <matu_> Hi, please tell me what i need to do to put my /usr partition to my SD CARD and to get it working.
[01:39] <The2morrowMan> mgv2, A lot of laptop microphones exhibit that behavior. You have to set its recording level to maximum, and then apply a boost of between 10 and 40 db - couldn't tell you how to do that in linux, I'm afraid.
[01:40] <matu_> is anyone able to get it working ?
[01:40] <coz_> matu_,   I just arrived...get what working ?
 Hi, please tell me what i need to do to put my /usr partition to my SD CARD and to get it working.
[01:41] <matu_> using Mandriva it directly works but freeze the boot system using ubuntu...
[01:41] <The2morrowMan> Is Ubuntu 9.10 supposed to bring anything really nifty to the server arena, besides cloud computing integration?
[01:42] <The2morrowMan> matu_, Why would you throw /usr on an SD card?
[01:42] <matu_> even the netbook remix is unable to install /usr to an sd card and get a proper boot
[01:42] <shawn_> With a dual display if I configure it for two x screens is there any way to make it so I can drag windows from one screen to the next?
[01:42] <matu_> because it is incomparably faster...
[01:42] <coz_> matu_,   well I am not sure but I did find this    http://gkahla.net/blog/2009/02/13/sd-card-for-usr-on-dell-mini9/
[01:43] <The2morrowMan> matu_, Just curious, what file system did you use?
[01:43] <nightange1> ﻿GregoryC: oh come on you man your gonna make me do  all the work when :P
[01:44] <christopher> how do I kill a process with status D "uninterruptible sleep"?
[01:44] <nooneelse> hello everybody, my ALT button is not working on ubuntu só I can't alternate between windows, even it's already set up on keyboard shortcuts, what this could be ?
[01:44] <coz_> nooneelse,  kde or gnome
[01:44] <nightange1> mean**
[01:45] <nooneelse> coz_, gnome
[01:45] <matu_> thanks a lot i will give it a try tomorrow
[01:45] <matu_> ext4 without the journal mod disabled from about 6months
[01:45] <coz_> nooneelse,  did this happen after updating ?
[01:45] <matu_> The2morrowMan,
[01:45] <GregoryC> nightange1: well, i never had need to create my own room, so i don't know
[01:46] <matu_> it is still working without any problem if it is what you want to know
[01:46] <coz_> nooneelse,   you might want to go into system/preferences/keyboard   let me find link
[01:46] <coz_> nooneelse,    http://www.zolved.com/synapse/view_content/28017/Fix_your_right_Alt_key_in_Ubuntu    see if that helps
[01:46] <The2morrowMan> matu_, At least you disabled the journal. :) That was my main point.
[01:46] <matu_> ed
[01:46] <matu_> thank you bye bye
[01:46] <matu_> no i did not
[01:47] <The2morrowMan> matu_, Oh. Well, then you're going to fry your SD card. ext4 doesn't take into account the wear-levelling required to utilize flash media safely.
[01:47] <matu_> without the journal mod disabled... i want to know with the ext4 journal mod enable
[01:47] <matu_> sorry
[01:47] <matu_> argh sorry i am tired >_<
[01:47] <nooneelse> coz_, it happened after i've installed compiz_manager
[01:47] <matu_> i meant using ext4 journal
[01:48] <The2morrowMan> matu_, Okay, you currently have ext4 journalled on the SD card?
[01:48] <nooneelse> coz_, and it's not the right-alt it's the lef-alt
[01:48] <matu_> raelly i dont care because i paid my 8GB ultra fast sd card 20$ 6months ago
[01:49] <Wolvenhaven> is there a virtualbox channel? I can't find one in the channel listings
[01:49] <IdleOne> #vbox ??
[01:49] <The2morrowMan> matu_, Okay, well, have fun buying new hardware because you don't care. My assistance ends now.
[01:50] <Wolvenhaven> thanks
[01:51] <m0r0n> Can anyone offer me guidance on installing Ubuntu on a flash drive?
[01:51] <squisher> hi, does anyone know if ubuntu disables ctrl-alt-backspace in X? If so, what's the best way to enable it again?
[01:51] <nooneelse> coz_, I solved right now changing the effects from normal -> extra -> normal
[01:52] <coz_> nooneelse,  cool
[01:52] <nooneelse> maybe some compiz plugin had disabled when I installed it
[01:53] <IdleOne> !usb | Arsin
[01:53] <Arsin> I want to be able to read the files within Ubuntu in windows, say I don't boot into Ubuntu, and go into windows or mac, I want to be able to read everything without adding anything to the PC/Mac
[01:53] <Arsin> m0r0n = arsin
[01:54] <mgv2> the2morrowman- ok thanks - in windows it was the same
[01:54] <Wolvenhaven> arsin, make an ntfs partition, and mount it in ubuntu, windows will see it as well and it can be your "shared" folder
[01:54] <Arsin> Wolvenhaven: So I can't write Ubuntu on ntsf?
[01:54] <Wolvenhaven> ubuntu can mount and r/w ntfs
[01:55] <Arsin> Wolvenhaven: I mean, I can't install Ubuntu on NTSF
[01:55] <Wolvenhaven> or you can just mount your existing windows partition in ubuntu and do it the same way
[01:55] <mgv2> how do i set mic boost and mic level?
[01:56] <IdleOne> Arsin: maybe you are looking for wubi
[01:56] <IdleOne> !wubi | Arsin
[01:56] <Wolvenhaven> the only way i know of is to mount the windows partition in ubuntu
[01:56] <Arsin> IdleOne: Ya, I know about that, but I don't want to install anything on the PC's
[01:56] <llua> all my desktop icons disappeared
[01:57] <llua> i can see them in the filee browser
[01:57] <Arsin> WIdleOne: What I'd like to accomplish is, write Ubuntu on all sectors of my flash drive, boot whenever I want from it, but also whenever I go to other peoples houses and I want to access my files on Ubuntu without installing anything on their PC
[01:58] <Arsin> Wolvenhaven: Is that possible? Or are partitions my only option?
[01:58] <IdleOne> Arsin: then look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[01:58] <IdleOne> Arsin: that uses the usb stick without installing anything to the pc. provided the pc can boot from usb.
[01:59] <altavatar> I booted a new kernel (auto-update). Then one of my raid devices was gone.  I was able to resolve this by doing an mdadmn -Es > /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf && mdadm -As; but, shouldn't the boot procss do something similar itself?
[02:01] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi, ubuntu's freaking out at boot "dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxx-xxx-xxx-x-xxx does not exist dropping to a shell" if i wait few minutes and type "exit" in this shell the system starts and it all works ok as usual, but one of my ext3 hard drives disappeared, ubuntu just does not see it, anywhere! checked menu.lst and fstab the uuids are the same, plus tried to mount this ext3 disappeared one manually but it says about it as well it doesnt exist... h
[02:01] <IpSe_DiXiT> elp!
[02:01] <binrapt> When I try to use XChat with an SSL server it says: "unable to generate local ssl certificate" - what is this problem caused by?
[02:02] <binrapt> Do I need to configure SSL for Ubuntu first? Using 9.04 with updates
[02:03] <Cocoabean> altavatar: i think this is due to a module not being configured to automatically load in the new kernel
[02:03] <rickasaurus> the problem with ubuntu is it works great as long as I don't want to do anything off the beaten path
[02:03] <Arsin> IdleOne: Say I were to partiton, how much spaces does Ubuntu take?
[02:03] <rickasaurus> sometimes I miss knowing how my computer worked like when I ran gentoo
[02:03] <binrapt> Err, sorry, "unable to get local issuer certificate"
[02:04] <IdleOne> Arsin: on the pc installed it uses 3-4 GB.
[02:04] <Arsin> IdleOne: Is that with whatever programs comes with it, or is that just the base of Ubuntu
[02:04] <IdleOne> Arsin: but you need I suggest minimum 10GB to allow speca for your files and updates. not sure how it works on usb
[02:05] <IdleOne> Arsin: that is the default install
[02:06] <IdleOne> Arsin: obviously the larger the usb drive the better
[02:07] <Arsin> IdleOne:  Hm.. I guess I'll wait till 9.1 so whatever updates are in there are maybe a bit less space consuming, I have a 16gb but I want at least 5 in the windows and I want the programs I have currently on it too. Thanks for your help
[02:07] <mgv2> how do i set mic boost and mic level?
[02:07] <mgv2> how do i able to search and download edonkey?
[02:07] <sblunix> mgv2: Settings/Prefrences>>Control Panel>>Audio
[02:08] <sub2k1> Simple question: If I install Ubuntu 9.10 tonight, when the final version is released, will my system will update itself to the final build?
[02:08] <sblunix> sub2k1: yes
[02:08] <Guest65732> hi
[02:08] <sub2k1> lol cool.  I'm tired of waiting and i wanna play with it now.
[02:08] <sblunix> sub2k1: It's not a bad idea at all, considering the servers will be very slow on release day
[02:08] <sblunix> mgv2: Programs>>Add/Remove Programs>>eDonkey
[02:09] <mgv2> sblunix, i dont see an option to adjust the settings of level
[02:09] <sub2k1> sblunix: I've heard many great things about this upcoming release.  Are you using it right now?
[02:09] <sblunix> sub2k1: No, but I do plan on installing it within the next 24 hours, If you want to hear some feedback from the community, join channel #ubuntu+1 (the Ubuntu 9.10 support channel)
[02:10] <mgv2> i cant install amule because another program preventing it
[02:10] <sub2k1> sblunix, thank you very much
[02:10] <sblunix> mgv2: which program?
[02:10] <sblunix> sub2k1: no problem :)
[02:10] <christopher> how do I kill a process with state code D "Uninterruptible sleep"?
[02:10] <mgv2> sblunix, i couldnt find a way to change the microphone level in the sound pard of the preferences
[02:11] <sblunix> christopher: hold on one second whle I look that up
[02:11] <mgv2> sblunix, it doesnt tells which program
[02:11] <sblunix> mgv2: I'm sorry, I'm not very skilled when it comes to audiocards etc... why don't you try making a post on the forum?
[02:11] <sblunix> !forum
[02:12] <mgv2> sblunix, people dont answer in the forum and i prefer the chat
[02:12] <mgv2> sblunix, here is better
[02:12] <MrShroom> hello! how stable is 9.10 beta atm? if i download it will i lose my actual files?
[02:12] <sblunix> mgv2: I'm sorry to hear that, no one here is very active right now, so joining #ubuntu-beginners-help might have more support
[02:12] <sblunix> christopher: do you know the name of the process you want to kill?
[02:12] <iarp> christopher: "kill -9 <pid>" not work?
[02:13] <sblunix> christopher: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/kill-a-process-by-process-name-from-ubuntu-command-line/
[02:13] <mgv2> i didnt knew about it sblunix
[02:13] <MrShroom> christopher: what do u want to kill?
[02:13] <christopher> 1000     17946  6.5 20.0 728824 201104 ?       D    Oct18 113:15 /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.14/firefox
[02:14] <sblunix> christopher
[02:14] <sblunix> in terminal
[02:14] <christopher> i can't start firefox because of this sleeping process
[02:14] <sblunix> sudo kill -9 firefox
[02:14] <MrShroom> christopher: on therminal type xkill and then click on the window you want to close
[02:14] <christopher> 134christopher@sousedstvi:~$ sudo kill -9 firefox
[02:14] <christopher> ERROR: garbage process ID "firefox".
[02:15] <iarp> is a restart of the machine too long or?
[02:15] <MrShroom> christopher: is firefox still visual? i mean can u see the window
[02:15] <sblunix> MrShroom: 9.10 is fairly stable as it is a RC... You will lose all data you do not have backed up if you are doing a fresh install. If upgrading, I would still recommend backing up all your data. You may find more in-depth answers at #ubuntu+1 (The Ubuntu 9.10 support IRC channel)
[02:15] <christopher> MrShroom: no
[02:16] <MrShroom> christopher: then what is the problem?
[02:16] <sblunix> christopher: run the "System Monitor"
[02:16] <Arsin> How do I delete a user
[02:16] <MrShroom> sblunix: how probable is to lose your date when upgrading?
[02:17] <Arsin> Nevermind
[02:17] <sblunix> Not very probably, but it all depends on your hardware/knowhow/installed files/stability of previous and new version of Ubuntu
[02:17] <sblunix> Not very probable*
[02:17] <sblunix> !beginners | sblunix
[02:18] <christopher> sblinux: System Monitor gives a warning when I try to end the firefox process: Ending a process may destroy data, break the session or introduce a security risk. Only unresponding processes should be ended.
[02:18] <MrShroom> sblunix: then when the official release is out i will just have to update my ssystem instead of redownloading it right?
[02:18] <christopher> I click "end process" anyway
[02:18] <christopher> but nothing happens to the process
[02:19] <sblunix> MrShroom: correct, but updating your system will be close to the equivalent of redownloading it, it will try to leave your home partition intact, but it's not garaunteed
[02:19] <enforce1> Is anyone aware of a sun virtual machine download of ubuntu?
[02:19] <Flannel> !java | enforce1
[02:20] <enforce1> No, not java, persay
[02:20] <sblunix> !factoid
[02:20] <enforce1> Sun makes a virtual machine application for OSX, similar to Parallels
[02:20] <Flannel> enforce1: you mean Virtual Box?
[02:20] <enforce1> Flannel:
[02:20] <enforce1> Flannel: Yeah
[02:21] <Flannel> !vbox | enforce1
[02:21] <ubuntuse_69> hello geeks
[02:22] <mankash> How to merge avi files ?
[02:22] <MrShroom> sblunix: would it be any problem if i have my hd partitoned with windosw?
[02:23] <sblunix> MrShroom: if just updating, no
[02:23] <MrShroom> sblunix: if i want to upgrade to 9.1?
[02:24] <fcuk112_> mankash: http://www.ubuntuhowtos.com/howtos/merge_avi_files_with_mencoder
[02:24] <sblunix> MrShroom: if you want to upgrade to 9.10 on the release date then it shouldn't be a problem
[02:24] <sblunix> if doing a fresh install
[02:24] <sblunix> it shouldn't be a problem if your careful with your partitioning
[02:24] <sblunix> !partitions
[02:24] <eto> hello can somebody explai to me why the fsck rythmbox is starting when i click on Documents or home folder?
[02:25] <MrShroom> sblunix: i mean if i upgrade now to 9.1 beta
[02:25] <Merc|> I am the 1400th  person on the ubuntu chat!
[02:25] <Merc|> ubuntu!
[02:25] <sblunix> Merc| the 1363d
[02:26] <Merc|> sblunix: :P When I was joining the channel...that is
[02:26] <MrShroom> !channels
[02:26] <haven489> hey all
[02:27] <enforce1> hey
[02:27] <XStatik> Can someone please tell me something gnu
[02:27] <haven489> i have a problem i have an old Linux laptop that is giving me trouble
[02:27] <MrShroom> sblunix: would there be any problem i i want to upgrade now to 9.10 beta with my hd partitioned?
[02:27] <MrShroom> if*
[02:27] <haven489> im trying to boot from an img of Debian
[02:27] <DigitalKiwi> XStatik: linux is GNU
[02:27] <DigitalKiwi> jk ;D
[02:27] <haven489> and it give me a hash error "unable to determin hash
[02:28] <haven489> any thoughts?
[02:28] <NiteSnow> XStatik, no GNU is not unix :P
[02:28] <sblunix> MrShroom: not as long as you leave your windows partition untouched, and only partition over the old installation
[02:28] <xrandr> hey got  a question. the nvidia driver is seeing my lcd tv as a CRT monitor. How do i tell it that it is a LCD TV ?'
[02:28] <DigitalKiwi> XStatik: coreutils
[02:29] <MrShroom> xrandr: did u use the button 'detect displays'?
[02:29] <haven489> this is the lap top i have
[02:29] <xrandr> MrShroom, yes
[02:29] <snuffy47> I started to install a raid 1 with mdadm and had problems and nwo would like to delete all tracess and start over any help
[02:29] <haven489> http://tech2.in.com/media/images/2008/May/img_64061_olpc-microsoft.jpg
[02:29] <DigitalKiwi> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_GNU_packages XStatik
[02:29] <eto> somebody?
[02:30] <MrShroom> xrandr: is your tv displaying your computer image?
[02:30] <xrandr> xrandr, im using it right now. its just seeing it as a crt, so when i switch to the 1920x1200 resolution, it shows it, but the color is off, and everything looks really messed up
[02:31] <altavatar> I booted a new kernel (auto-update). Then one of my raid devices was gone.  I was able to resolve this by doing an mdadmn -Es > /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf && mdadm -As; but, shouldn't the boot procss do something similar itself? Someone suggested that the module isn't loaded in the new kernel (but the kernel is loading the other 2 raid devices that were configured previously - it's just not loading the new dev until 
[02:31] <MrShroom> xrandr: 1920x1200is a lot for a tv screen, when i use my lcd screen i use 1360x768
[02:32] <xrandr> if i use the dvi port of my graphics card it sees it as DFP-0
[02:32] <xrandr> but it looks horrible
[02:32] <xrandr> the fonts arent displayed right
[02:32] <squidly> anyone unable to start up firefox-3.5 with an error saying it's already running?
[02:32] <MrShroom> xrandr: which port r u using then?
[02:32] <xrandr> the VGA port
[02:32] <xrandr> which is the one i want
[02:33] <xrandr> it worked in ubuntu 8.04
[02:33] <xrandr> stopped working in 9.04
[02:33] <MrShroom> xrandr: is your tv full hd or hd ready?
[02:33] <MoTec> tuxracer runs slow at 3200x2400.. :(
[02:33] <xrandr> xrandr, not entirely sure. It's an Olevia 23" tv
[02:33] <haven489> so no one is going to help me fine!
[02:34] <xrandr> MrShroom, i meant
[02:34] <MrShroom> xrandr: it should be hd ready, mhhh i think you're trying to use a very high resolution on your tv
[02:34] <MoTec> how can an OLPC be an 'old laptop'?
[02:35] <MrShroom> xrandr: try using 1360x768
[02:35] <sblunix> !unr is <reply> Ubuntu Netbook Remix (UNR) is a 'remix' of the standard Ubuntu Desktop release to enable it to work better on devices with small screens, such as netbooks.  For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR and for support please ask your question at https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/netbook-remix .
[02:36] <xrandr> MrShroom, yeah, i can use that resolution. Infact, im on a 1600x1200 resolution now. I did get it to work in 8.04 though
[02:37] <MrShroom> xrandr: xrandr and 1600x1200 looks crappy?
[02:37] <Merc|> ubuntu
[02:37] <xrandr> MrShroom, no it does not. 1920x1200 or 1920x1280 does. And that is the desired resolution
[02:38] <MoTec> My niece used to call me every two weeks or so to clean off spyware off of her netbook when it had windows.  I installed UNR and now she hasn't called for two months.   I'm sad :(  I miss talking with her.
[02:38] <kiaas> I believe I have found a bug, but with what I am unsure. but every keypress is making the computer beep, like I've hit backspace too many times or something.
[02:39] <ramseize> hello i have a question hoping that you would help me answer, i dont have any idea about server administration, and im planning to buy a vps , which os should i choose ubuntu or centos, im quite familiar with ubuntu as it is what im using for my desktop, but its different when you talk about server side, which is easy to configure cent os or ubuntu server?
[02:39] <xrandr> Option	"TVStandard"			"NTSC-M"  i wonder if i put that in, it'll be happy
[02:39] <MrShroom> xrandr: mhhh, try lowering the refresh rate
[02:40] <sblunix> !server
[02:40]  * skuld takes a number and waits in line
[02:40] <xrandr> MrShroom, nvidia-settings doesn't give me that option to
[02:40] <MoTec> ubottu: ebox makes administration trivial
[02:40] <MoTec> ramseize: ebox makes administration trivial
[02:40] <MoTec> and f-you ebottu
[02:40] <sblunix> !server > ramseize
[02:41] <koppe> Going to mount external HDD read-only as root.  FS is way past time for automatic-check, how do I prevent it from being checked?  (Yes, I know I ought to, but I can't.)
[02:41] <erkules_> moin, how are the future plans of ubuntu and openvz. In 9.04 ubuntu dropped the "support" of an openvz-kernel.
[02:41] <skuld> I just installed Ubuntu Server 9.04 today.  I noticed that very frequently, the Remote Server locks up the server.  Does anybody know of a fix for this?
[02:41] <xrandr> MrShroom, it's not that big of a deal. i can live with 1600x1200
[02:41]  * erkules_ knows that debiankernels with openvzsupport exists :)
[02:41] <sblunix> !server | skuld
[02:41] <Merc|> ubottu commands
[02:41] <skuld> okay, thank you! :)
[02:41] <shauno> ramseize: between the two distros, you're most likely going to have more success with whichever you're already more familiar with
[02:42] <ramseize> does anybody know of a good vps that is very cheap, i just need it for educational purposes
[02:43] <krishna> what is vps
[02:43] <MoTec> vps=virtual private server...
[02:43] <sblunix> krishna: Virtual Private Server?
[02:43] <MoTec> aka a shell account
[02:44] <krishna> is this vps for any computing purpose
[02:44] <fcuk112_> sorry offtopic, for learning japanese #nihongo exists, is there something similar for learning chinese?
[02:44] <MoTec>  #nihao ?
[02:45] <fcuk112_> no users there...
[02:45] <sblunix> back
[02:45] <MoTec> yeah.. i made it up, lol
[02:45] <fcuk112_> lol
[02:45] <MoTec> it means hello/goodbye, tho
[02:45] <solexious|netbk> is there an rss reader that will also use the new osd notifications?
[02:45] <kiaas> nihongo is the japanese word for japanese language.
[02:46] <sblunix> .google learn chinese irc
[02:46] <m0r0n> If I don't know where a file is, how do I preform a search?
[02:46] <Mystic> http://www.chinese-forums.com/showthread.php?t=7597 (Chinese IRC or other chat)
[02:46] <sblunix> !google
[02:46] <MoTec> m0r0n: locate filename
[02:47] <m0r0n> MoTec: Thanks a lot
[02:47] <krishna> m0r0n:locate filename
[02:47] <MeXTuX> I want to install Ubuntu and the processor is an Intel (R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @3.00 GHz. Which version do I need? i386 or AMD64??
[02:47] <MoTec> m0r0n: might need to install that package... here are some alternatives:  http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfinding.html
[02:48] <fcuk112_> Mystic: thanks.
[02:48] <MoTec> MeXTuX: either
[02:48] <m0r0n> MoTec: It worked
[02:48] <krishna> mextux: you can go for ubuntu 9.04
[02:48] <okdude> gg
[02:49] <krishna> mextux: if u want u can install ubuntu ultimate
[02:49] <MoTec> gg? is this cs?
[02:49] <preecher> how do i see device manager or its equivlent in ubuntu 9.04
[02:49] <m0r0n> When you delete something on root, does it do a permanent delete or does it actually have a trashbin?
[02:49] <sblunix> m0r0n: actually has a trash bin
[02:49] <m0r0n> sblunix: Where is it located?
[02:50] <sblunix> m0r0n: enter "gksudu nautilus" in your terminal (without quotes) and there should be a link
[02:50] <krishna> mextux: just order the cd as per ur requirements u will get the cd for free
[02:50] <MeXTuX> I entered lshw on a console. What does "width" mean?? It has a value of 64 bits
[02:50] <sblunix> !amd64 | MeXTuX
[02:50] <ZykoticK9> m0r0n, if you deleted it in terminal - there is no trashbin
[02:51] <m0r0n> sblunix: You mean gksu? gksudu nautilus is not found
[02:51] <m0r0n> ZykoticK9: I went in, gksu nautilus and deleted it there
[02:51] <sblunix> @m0r0n yes, I meant gksu, sorry about that
[02:51] <ZykoticK9> m0r0n, it's gksudo...
[02:51] <m0r0n> sblunix: Ya I'm here, but I don't see it
[02:51] <wippo> Saturn
[02:51] <c4pt> m0r0n: gksudo
[02:51] <preecher> does ubuntu 9.04 have a "device manager" equivlent
[02:52] <ZykoticK9> preecher, honestly - not really...
[02:52] <slimindie> m0r0n, in redhat at least trash stuff goes into ~/.Trash
[02:52] <okdude> gg
[02:52] <m0r0n> c4pt: ZykoticK9:  gksu does the same, anywho where is the trash?
[02:52] <preecher> then is they a way i can see what devices i have i need to kno what kinda harddrive i have as in sata or eide
[02:52] <c4pt> m0r0n: if you did rm -rf its permantly gone
[02:53] <krishna> preecher: you don't have like that but in system-> administration u can find hardware devices configuration
[02:53] <m0r0n> c4pt: rm -rf?
[02:53] <slimindie> m0r0n, so if you're root it would be in /root/.Trash
[02:53] <krishna> preecher: for usb sticks manually u have to change the permissions of the user
[02:53] <slimindie> m0r0n, try doing 'ls -latrh' on your user directory in the terminal
[02:54] <m0r0n> slimindie: "Could not find "/root/.Trash""
[02:54] <maslo> hello i need help really
[02:54] <sblunix> hello maslo, what can I help you with
[02:54] <krishna> preecher: as far as i know type fdisk -l in ur terminal it will give u hda or sda if sda it is sata but i dont know abt eide
[02:54] <maslo> how can one regenerate folder links in national language other than english?
[02:55] <Xial> eide shows up the same way, krishna.
[02:55] <reali> if i use cd2usb i will get a fully live ubuntu on usb ? ..
[02:55] <sblunix> :\
[02:55] <krishna> k...
[02:55] <slimindie> m0r0n, it's almost certainly under /root somewhere, and probably starts with a '.' (making it hidden in nautilus). you'll have to do it from the terminal
[02:55] <preecher> thanks\
[02:55] <maslo> i installed with slovak then swithched to english now when i switched back to slovak it's all wrong, in english
[02:55] <krishna> what is eide i dont know anything abt it
[02:55]  * Xial spent a half hour yesterday getting his other IDE drives recognized in xubuntu, since they weren't mounted.
[02:56] <maslo> sblunix:  do you have a clue?
[02:56] <sblunix> maslo: no idea, may I direct you to the forums?
[02:56] <sblunix> !forum | maslo
[02:56] <Xial> krishna, eide, later renamed pata to add confusion to the world of acronyms, is the older hard drive style that uses a ribbon cable that's fairly wide, compared to the serial ata cable.
[02:57] <maslo> anyone else?
[02:57] <krishna> reali : in ubuntu u have usb startup disk creater a graphical tools that creates a bootable usb stick
[02:57] <Jordan_U> maslo: Try asking in #ubuntu-cz
[02:58] <maslo> ok thanks i am goonana do that
[02:58] <krishna> xial: k.. i came to know then wt is for hda
[02:59] <krishna> is there any channel for web applications
[03:00] <jrock2004> What web application
[03:00] <krishna> java based web applications
[03:01] <realcoolguy> looking to find lots of scattered files with somewhat similar names and gather them all into one file... I'm not seeing an easy way to scan through all subdirectories with the mv command either...
[03:01] <jrock2004> Have you tried #java
[03:01] <sblunix> realcoolguy, doesn't nautilus have a search feature?
[03:01] <krishna> i didn't
[03:02] <jrock2004> That is where I would start
[03:02] <krishna> #java
[03:02] <slimindie> realcoolguy, have you tried using find?
[03:02] <realcoolguy> sblunix: Not a bad idea... slimindie: I think this is what i was thinking of, hitting man pages
[03:03] <krishna> realcoolguy: just u see www.swecha.net may u can find a shell program that resolves ur problem
[03:03] <krishna> realcoolguy: one of friend wrote shell program for ur problem
[03:04] <krishna> #java not working
[03:04] <realcoolguy> krishna: awesome, I'll look through, and thanks again... (gotta dig out my really thick book with linux commands again I guess.)
[03:05] <krishna> realcoolguy: if u didn't find i will post the code on www.swatantra.co.nr by tomorrow
[03:06] <realcoolguy> krishna: I think I can figure this out, but thanks again for the offer.
[03:06] <sblunix> realcoolguy: wouldn't that thick book be called google?
[03:06] <evanescent> cups doesn't seem to be detecting my USB printer, any ideas?
[03:06] <realcoolguy> sblunix: :P  I like dusty paper.
[03:07] <Xial> Ok. I've got an interesting one that #xubuntu seems to be asleep for. I'm using only a keyboard on this system. I enabled an accessibility feature that allows my number pad to emulate a mouse. If I leave the machine idle for 10, 15 minutes or so, the number pad acts like a number pad again.
[03:07] <sblunix> realcoolguy: says the linux uner
[03:07] <evanescent> if I direct it to look manually, where do I say it is. LP port?
[03:07] <Xial> However, if I can dig my way back to that accessibility feature, it says the feature is on. Is there something I'm just missing here?
[03:08] <krishna> k... i m leaving have a nice day
[03:08] <realcoolguy> Xial: Are there power saving features enabled? see if you can move the power saving feature time around and if it matches your problem or not.
[03:09] <Xial> Unless there's one that kills the keyboard that I'm not aware of, all my power saving settings are set to disabled -- would suck to have the screen fading out in the middle of a movie. :)
[03:10] <evanescent> how do I direct cups to a usb printer
[03:11] <evanescent> it's not detecting my printer, which i know is supported in linux
[03:11] <realcoolguy> Xial: Is there any physical problem that could possibly causing an interruption of the device (unplugging it just even momentarily?)
[03:11] <acad4> does anyone know why when i left click on the speaker in the top right corner i can't control the volume? if i right click and select open volume control the master volume does adjust the volume.
[03:12] <Jeruvy> evanescent: did you add the printer to cups?
[03:12] <evanescent> Jeruvy, I went to add a new printer, and it searched for it, but found nothing
[03:12] <evanescent> I don't know what port to say it's on because USB is not an option (parallel, serial, network, etc are)
[03:12] <Cale> What is the preferred directory in which to put custom HAL configuration files? If I just stick things in /etc/hal/fdi/policy will it work? (Frankly I find the new config system rather confusing relative to xorg.conf ;)
[03:13] <Jeruvy> evanescent: try unplugging it and plugging it in again.
[03:13] <evanescent> nothing...
[03:13] <Xial> realcoolguy, unless the motherboard on this machine is shot (minor possibility of this being true), none that I can think of.
[03:13] <acad4> evanescent: the best thing to do in GNU/Linux is get a printer from a company that actually supports GNU/Linux 100%.  you can't go wrong with any HP printer. they provide quality open source drivers for everything they sell these days.
[03:14] <evanescent> openprinter.org says this pritner works 'perfect' so Ia ssume its supported
[03:14] <evanescent> its one I already have of course
[03:14] <Jeruvy> evanescent: try to re-add it after plugging it in again.  Is it plugged in directly to the machine?
[03:14] <Poincare1> I have a modem question
[03:14] <evanescent> *openprinting
[03:14] <Poincare1> I'm trying to use efax
[03:14] <realcoolguy> evanescent: which printer is it again?
[03:14] <evanescent> its plugged in right to the machine. Ill try searching again but I thought I tried this
[03:14] <acad4> evanscent: thinkpenguin.com if you want to buy from a company that supports gnu/linux - plus you get technical support on ubuntu if you need it- or another linux os.
[03:14] <evanescent> canon pixma MX300
[03:14] <usr13> Anyone know how to boot Ubuntu 8.04 with lilo?
[03:14] <evanescent> http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_MX300
[03:14] <MeXTuX> Does anybody know about a free alternative to Flash??  :o
[03:15] <evanescent> k. same thing. when I go to add a new printer it just searches for a bit and then asks me where the printer is
[03:15] <Poincare1> And i'm a 100 % sure that i have cups set up right, but e fax doesn't work :(. The problem is, I have the dell linux drivers installed but I don't know what tty my modem is on. How can I find out?
[03:15] <Xial> Isn't Gnash a free alternative to flash, though reliability is questionable at best? :)
[03:15] <Poincare1> anyone?
[03:15] <Poincare1> is anyone willing to help me?
[03:16] <Poincare1> anyone at all?
[03:16] <Poincare1> I just want to find out my tty of my modem
[03:16] <Xial> Poincare1, May need to slow your roll with a can of Drank. People need a moment to think about an answer for it, after all. :)
[03:16] <Poincare1> okay xial
[03:16] <jeeves_Moss> what does "Agent admitted failure to sign using the key." mean?  I'm trying to pre share keys for SSH
[03:17] <Jeruvy> evanescent: have you tried to follow thru with this?  I assume you have the drivers installed already?
[03:17] <Xial> I don't know the answer, personally, but of the thousand-plus people here, someone may have an answer.
[03:17] <evanescent> I didn't install anything that didn't come with cups. I thought the driver it mention there would
[03:17] <evanescent> I did install cups
[03:17] <usr13> !lilo
[03:17] <Poincare1> I installed cups
[03:17] <Poincare1> I did
[03:17] <Roasted> QUESTION - I have 2 drives I want to rsync. My source drive (my samba network drive) has 3 shares on it, owned by jason:pam, jason:curt, jason:tyler. Inside the files are owned by the users accordingly. tyler:tyler, pam:pam, curt:curt, with jason being a member of each "user" group (meaning I'm a member of tyler, curt, pam, so I can access their files anyway). When I rsync -a their stuff to my 2nd drive, the owner of the files goes f
[03:17] <Roasted> rom pam:pam to jason:pam. Why doesn't it transfer owner?
[03:18] <Xial> Roasted, I know nothing about rsync, but I'd fairly assume that the owner of the file gets changed to the person that ran the command.
[03:18] <mycert> poyo
[03:19] <navap> Roasted: Have you tried -o?
[03:20] <Roasted> navap - no, I use -a, which includes -o
[03:20] <Roasted> navap - -a is the same as -rlptgoD
[03:20] <Billiard> Roasted: running rysnc as super user?
[03:20] <jeeves_Moss> what does "Agent admitted failure to sign using the key." mean?  I'm trying to pre share keys for SSH
[03:20] <evanescent> cups-driver-gutenprint  is already installed evidently
[03:21] <Roasted> billiard - I could do that, certainly. I just was under the impression rsync doesnt need root access to run as long as I am the owner. Which, I own /media/storage and /media/storagebackup, so when I rsync from storage to storagebackup, I thought it would take the files/folders inside "as is" with their owners intact isnce I owned the root folders they were getting dropped into.
[03:21] <Xial> Poincare1, while it's not entirely related, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/Hardware/3G/Probing might help you in finding out which TTY your modem is on, by the way.
[03:21] <Billiard> Roasted: i believe noone can change the owner of a file but root
[03:22] <sblunix> Billiard: untrue
[03:22] <Xial> I just had to find the article. Years ago, when I was using a pantech ev-do card, I had to do that dance to find the card, and find the TTY it was on.
[03:22] <Roasted> sblunix - root + the actual user who owns it...
[03:22] <evanescent> still not detecting... :(
[03:22] <Xial> Hope it helps, Poincare1 . Now I need to rescue the fish from the oven. :)
[03:22] <sblunix> roasted: :)
[03:23] <sblunix> billiard + roasted: root + all users w/ permission to change file permissions...
[03:23] <Roasted> sblunix - which would be the answer to my question... I guess I cant rsync files from storage to storagebackup under "pam" being the owner when Im logged in as jason
[03:23] <sblunix> Roasted: do you know "pam"'s password?
[03:23] <Roasted> sblunix - oh yes, I set up their samba accounts on my system.
[03:24] <Roasted> sblunix - I just dont know if its worth tacking on to my script though. I just wanted to make sure my setup was working correctly.
[03:24] <sblunix> i only heard the first bit of your question
[03:24] <sblunix> So, what are you trying to do?
[03:24] <Billiard> sblunix: i am unable to change the owner of any files, only the group, without sudo
[03:24] <sblunix> if you have to just run a "sudo" or "gksu" + command then enter root/pam's pass
[03:24] <evanescent> for a usb printer, what kind of device should I tell cups it is
[03:25] <sblunix> oh yeah, Billiard: I'm afraid that's a safety feature of Ubuntu's
[03:25] <sblunix> All important commands in terminal require a sudo, even if owner is logged in
[03:26] <Roasted> sblunix - I guess its not a real big deal, because if storage goes down and I pull my backup from storagebackup, all I have to do are run 3 commands to have them EXACTLY the way they were before... which is simply, sudo chown -R pam:pam pam, curt:curt curt, tyler:tyler tyler... then my backup would be in 100% fu nctional condition to the original.
[03:26] <evanescent> dude, weak. my wife plugged the usb cable into the modem port on the printer...
[03:26] <pistyman1> does anybody know how to get drivers for my wifi card?
[03:26] <evanescent> i spent hours tryin to fix this
[03:27] <sblunix> !forums | evanescent
[03:27] <evanescent> it works now.
[03:27] <Roasted> sblunix - It was more about making sure my script was working perfectly as it should be. I mean it makes sense that -o requires root priviledges unless I'm the owner. I guess me being in the group "pam" with "7" rights means nothing cause, an owner is an owner, while group is on a different level, even if the permissions are 775 for owner/group. I guess I still dont have full reign even if Im in the group with 7 powers :P
[03:27] <webbb82> cccan anyone please take a look at this and see if they can figure out what went wrong  http://pastebin.com/m153ada29
[03:27] <sblunix> !FAQ | pistyman1
[03:27] <appleman> what kind of careers are offered in the Linux field in Local Areas?
[03:28] <appleman> I can be a desktop sweeper
[03:28] <appleman> does surfboard stand swing
[03:28] <sblunix> webbb82: what are you trying to do?
[03:28] <webbb82> compile the raptor menu
[03:29] <webbb82> from this   http://www.raptor-menu.org/download
[03:29] <appleman> I don't even have a recycling bin on this
[03:30] <ubuntu> kdkdkd
[03:30] <appleman> later doods
[03:30] <sblunix> webbb82: well on line 46 of your CMakeLists.txt file there is the command "NEPOMUK_ADD_ONTOLOGY_CLASSES" and Cmake has no idea what to do with that
[03:31] <webbb82> sblunix, whaty should i do with it
[03:32] <DaZ> !find nepomukontologyloader.so
[03:32] <MoTec> oh, for friggin' sure!
[03:32] <MoTec> getting UNR to remember your wireless password without the keyring nonsense is as easy as checking 'for all users' checkbox.
[03:32] <DaZ> !find ontology.h
[03:32] <DaZ> webbb82:
[03:33] <sblunix> hey
[03:33] <sblunix> webbb82: try asking your question on #raptor
[03:33] <webbb82> ubottu, should i install those then try again?
[03:33] <preecher> is they be a way i can dload ubuntu to flash drive with having to burn the iso to a cd first
[03:33] <DaZ> webbb82: yes [;
[03:33] <preecher> i meant without havin to burn the cd iso
[03:33] <sblunix> preecher: yes they be a way
[03:34] <Xial> preecher, you probably can mount the ISO using a number of virtual CD-ROM utilities on multiple platforms.
[03:34] <sblunix> preecher: please hold for one second while I pull up the information you're requesting
[03:34] <preecher> sblunix,  ok thx
[03:34] <webbb82> DaZ, ok ill givr it a try
[03:34] <webbb82> thanks
[03:36] <sblunix> preecher: are you wanting to download Ubuntu 9.10 or Ubuntu 9.04?
[03:36] <preecher> it no matter with me
[03:36] <preecher> i use 9.04 now
[03:36] <sblunix> ok 9.10 is in beta still, it gets officially released in about 10 or 9 days
[03:37] <sblunix> but I'll go ahead and hook you up with that
[03:37] <pingya> for some reason empathy IM client has started showing my own jabber account in my contact list (i can even open a chat window with myself)  does anyone know how to hide my account from showing?
[03:37] <preecher> then 9.04 i no want a beta
[03:37] <sblunix> Well then
[03:38] <sblunix> preecher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromImgFiles
[03:38] <preecher> thank u
[03:38] <jimmy51_home> a box asking for my password just popped up
[03:38] <jimmy51_home> it's trying to run:  /usr/share/apport/apport-qt.  is that safe to do?
[03:38] <webbb82> DaZ,  now i get this error http://pastebin.com/m57cfe2b8
[03:38] <sblunix> jimmy51_home: what activity are you trying to do?
[03:39] <webbb82> sblinux
[03:39] <jimmy51_home> i'm not sure.  i had been running updates but there was an error
[03:39] <jimmy51_home> virtual box was running while trying to update
[03:39] <epaphus> hello, i installed ubuntu in a HD in one box.. and switched the HD another box.. and now the NIC isnt recognized .. it says unable to configure. If i load the 9.04 live cd then it does work. Why would install not work if I installed the generic kernel
[03:39] <sblunix> webbb82: you need NepomukAddOntologyClasses
[03:40] <webbb82> i just installed that one kdelibs dpkg thing
[03:40] <sblunix> jimmy51_home: if you're running updates then yes, that's safe to do, it's not an error, it's just a security check
[03:40] <DaZ> !find NepomukAddOntologyClasses.cmake
[03:40] <sblunix> !find NepomukAddOntologyClasses
[03:41] <DaZ> out of luck [;
[03:41] <webbb82> i was told kdelibs took its place but i think i got it installed as well
[03:41] <Kevin1a>  I have been using the wifi at Old Chicago near my work for a while now.  It recently stopped working.  I still connect to the access point, but none of my applications are able to access the internet.  I have tried this using both Ubuntu and Windows 7.  My phone still seems to connect fine.  Is it possible that I have somehow been blocked?  What are the most common ways of blocking users?  Could it be a problem with my settings in linux
[03:41] <Kevin1a> that are effecting not just the linux partition.
[03:41] <epaphus> anybody?
[03:41] <webbb82> what if i take that out of the cmake list
[03:41] <DaZ> webbb82: you don't need debug packages
[03:42] <DaZ> because you're not debugging :f
[03:42] <sblunix> !unr
[03:42] <webbb82> i dunno im just getting frustrated
[03:42] <shane2peru> Kevin1a: you been busted, and blocked. :)
[03:43] <Kevin1a> I'm not sure.  It's a public network so that would surprise me?  Is there a way to test this theory without asking?
[03:43] <frogzoo> Kevin1a: this chan won't help you illegally leech bandwidth...
[03:43] <Wicked> !java
[03:43] <Wicked> !help
[03:43] <Wicked> !info
[03:44] <Wicked> !search
[03:44] <frogzoo> Wicked: pm the bot so you don't spam the chan
[03:44] <Wicked> hmm. thought it gave a link to a web frontend for the bot :|
[03:45] <frogzoo> !ubottu
[03:45] <Kevin1a> frogzoo: I don't see whats illegal about it.  There is a wifi symbol on the door.  They want people to use it.  I just want to make sure it's not my settings
[03:45] <gpled> how can i add a pdf printer to 9.04?
[03:45] <Wicked> awesome thanks :)
[03:45] <Xial> Looks like the solution to my issue is going to be 'buy a mouse for the media center box' :(
[03:46] <downwriter1> hello...I am wondering if anyone has used an old tower computer to make a ubuntu server
[03:46] <frogzoo> downwriter1: the form factor makes no difference
[03:46] <Ether> I think he just means he has an old tower to use
[03:47] <downwriter1> yes Ether
[03:47] <Ether> what specs
[03:47] <downwriter1> obviously I am new to this
[03:47] <DaZ> downwriter1: how old? :f
[03:47] <Wicked> ubuntu runs on a vast array of hardware
[03:48] <Ether> xubunutu is nice on REAL old machines
[03:48] <Wicked> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[03:48] <DaZ> tty is the best on old machines.
[03:48] <downwriter1> hmmm I think it is 99/00
[03:48] <Wicked> looks like it needs 300mhz+ cpu and 64mb's of ram for a desktop
[03:48] <downwriter1> I need to do the spec work
[03:48] <Ether> I got an old inspiron 3500 rocking like 128MB ram runs it decent
[03:49] <preecher> what is tty
[03:49] <epaphus> Anybody know why I cannot install  ubuntu on a box and then close the HD so itcan be used on other boxes? Iam having trouble for it to recognize hardware.. such as the NIC... the livecd for 9.10 does run fine and always recgonizes everything.. is it possible that one install is somehow tied with the hardware it was installed at?
[03:49] <DaZ> ... :f
[03:49] <Wicked> anything 300mhz+ and 64mb+ of ram...and it will run
[03:49] <downwriter1> but you can't use it for the server edition?
[03:50] <Wicked> downwriter1, well the server version is without x...so id say it would be the same or less for a server
[03:50] <downwriter1> ok
[03:50] <downwriter1> thank you
[03:51] <Wicked> for the absolute minimum its saying intel pentium 486 cpu or better and 32mb's of ram...with 300mb's of disk space.
[03:51] <Wicked> but thats absolute bare minimum...
[03:51] <downwriter1> yeah
[03:51] <downwriter1> hmmm I have a few old towers, I suppose I could swap in some hardware
[03:51] <frogzoo> ubuntu publishes a min spec, and I believe 256Meg RAM is a min...
[03:52] <frogzoo> for desktop anyhow
[03:52] <DaZ> he doesn't need x on a server ;f
[03:52] <NavyWife> I need some help installing an older version of Wine, before I bang my head right through the wall.
[03:52] <Senesence> Where can I find the mounting rules for usb devices?
[03:52] <frogzoo> DaZ: no indeed
[03:52] <Wicked> i ran ubuntu server on a old p3 755mhz and i think 64 or 128mb's of ram...on a 8 gig hdd...ran good for a home server.
[03:52] <downwriter1> my idea was to run a server on the tower and run the desktop on my laptop
[03:52] <DaZ> NavyWife: playonlinux can do it  <:
[03:52] <NavyWife> Please and thank you. I will look that up
[03:52] <Wicked> yea playonlinux is pretty sweet
[03:52] <NavyWife> :)
[03:53] <Wicked> !playonlinux
[03:53] <Wicked> :(
[03:53] <sblunix> !wine
[03:53] <Xial> I know I got Ubuntu to run on a Lat CPx H500GT (500 MHz processor, 256 MB RAM) a couple of years ago.  At that time, I had to use the alternate install disc, because it couldn't run the live CD and the installer at the same time.
[03:53] <JJman6_> I am running Ubuntu servers.  and i have changed the host & domain names of the machines.  but when i ssh into them now i no l onger get the nifty stats after login that i used too.  How can i get those back!
[03:54] <Wicked> Xial, ah yea. good you brought that up. iirc i had the same issue
[03:54] <Senesence> The permissions of my USB device cannot be determined; anyone have any idea how to fix it?
[03:54] <Wicked> JJman6_, edit the /etc/motd?
[03:54] <Wicked> Senesence, mount it with a different umask maby?
[03:55] <Wicked> though might wanna look into it more before mucking around
[03:55] <Senesence> Wicked: Where can I find the default mounting rules for usb devices?
[03:55] <JJman6_> Wicked: ok what am i editing.  it has all the info in there already taht it used too.  but it didn't show that when i logged in again
[03:55] <Xial> Anyhow. I have delicious fish and chips to eat and movies to watch. If I helped anyone, glad to help. For those who helped me, thank you very much. Good night. :)
[03:55] <crunchbang> hi
[03:56] <Wicked> Senesence, i really am not sure.
[03:56] <Wicked> JJman6_, hmm not really sure man.
[03:56] <stonba> hi everyone
[03:56] <Senesence> hi
[03:56] <Wicked> JJman6_, i normally change my motd anyways
[03:56] <crohakon> Hello
[03:57] <JJman6_> This file is obviosly dynamically generated anyway.  as the information is changed somehow upon every login
[03:57] <Senesence> Anyone know anything about SELinux?
[03:57] <stonba> Crunchbang and ubuntu are basicly same thing right?
[03:57] <DaZ> stonba: it's basically still linu
[03:57] <DaZ> x :f
[03:57] <stonba> so same rules apply right?'
[03:58] <D_ReaL_PuNiShEr> ??
[03:58] <stonba> for linux and crunchbang?
[03:58] <DaZ> lolwut
[03:58] <DaZ> i guess :f
[03:58] <stonba> I know that it is debian based.
[03:58] <Wicked> !motd
[03:58] <irishhawk81> Anyone know if Linux will or has support for X4650 Lexmark printer?
[03:58] <Senesence> Enabling SELinux relabeled all my files, so I think that's why my USB devices not have undetermined permissions (mount in read-only)
[03:58] <Billiard> JJman6_: /etc/update-motd.d/ is where the motd is updated
[03:58] <Wicked> JJman6_, you can try the ubuntu server channel too. iirc its #ubuntu-server
[03:59] <JJman6_> ok i'll check those out Billiard & Wicked
[03:59] <firdau5> irishhawk81> Anyone know if Linux will or has support for X4650 Lexmark printer? <--- the problem is, Lexmark itself didnt support linux
[03:59] <crohakon> Does ubuntu make for a good server?
[03:59] <shawn_> crohakon I use the server edition yes
[03:59] <firdau5> irishhawk81, I advice you to survey on shoppers web site
[03:59] <histo> crohakon: yes there is a server edition
[03:59] <irishhawk81> Okay thanks Firdau5 wasn't sure if someone got into programming and came up with thier own
[04:00] <DaZ> server edition doesn't mean it's good :f
[04:00] <firdau5> irishhawk81, shoppers on printers side
[04:00] <irishhawk81> Thanks
[04:00] <shawn_> When using two seperate X screens on dual displays how can I make it so Docky runs out of my other screen?
[04:00] <firdau5> welcome
[04:00] <crohakon> I know there is a server edition... I asked if it was a good.
[04:00] <Senesence> Any USB gurus here?
[04:00] <histo> !best | crohakon
[04:00] <shawn_> crohakon, And I said yes I use it and I like it
[04:01] <comfnumb> Is there anywhere on IRC to go for Linux/Ubuntu/Wine gaming questions?
[04:01] <DaZ> comfnumb: #winehq?
[04:01] <histo> comfnumb: there is #winehq and #ubuntu is the official ubuntu support channel
[04:01] <crohakon> Thats all I wanted to know. I am installing it right now anyway. If I like it I will recommend it to the guy I work for because he wants to move our website onto a local server instead of out sourcing. lol
[04:01] <histo> comfnumb: what else could you need.
[04:01] <NavyWife> okay, I dl and installed playonlinux. It downloaded the current version of wine. I have the 1.1.17.tar.bz2 package of the wine I need installed. How do I install that one. My stupid game won't play on 1.1.
[04:01] <NavyWife> 31
[04:02] <shawn_> crohakon I suggest 8.04 Server Edition though
[04:02] <NavyWife> Sorry. Been dealing with this for 12 hours. Tired of it :)
[04:02] <histo> crohakon: i've been running one 24/7 for quite sometime. I don't even know what the uptime is but its high.
[04:02] <Senesence> *Needs USB help.
[04:02] <histo> NavyWife: what is playonlinux?
[04:02] <crohakon> Well, good. I will setup and see what I think. Any advice or is it all fairly standard?
[04:03] <comfnumb> histo: im trying to play an online game and no servers are listed to connect to
[04:03] <Senesence> Where are the USB mount rules; my USB devices are mounting in read-only mode.
[04:03] <NavyWife> A more user friendly way to use Wine, from the website. I've not run it before tonight.
[04:03] <histo> crohakon: fairly sstraight forward.
[04:03] <NavyWife> I just want my EQ2
[04:03] <JJman6_> any recommendations on using ext3 vs ext4 for servers?  Is ext4 stable enough to be used in a production environment?
[04:03] <histo> comfnumb: does the machine have internet access and what game are you trying to get to work?
[04:03] <crohakon> Does the server edition have a gui by default or is it all console?
[04:03] <russlar> crohakon: all console
[04:03] <tehbaut> I have an issue where all my newly installed apps are no longer adding themselves to the main menu after I moved it to the bottom panel. Anyone know why that might be?
[04:03] <histo> NavyWife: Do you need to install wine from source? Can't you just use the version from the repos?
[04:04] <russlar> crohakon: you can install the gui with apt-get
[04:04] <comfnumb> histo: yes on internet, on it right now, and im trying to run Day Of Defeat
[04:04] <histo> comfnumb: hrm.. maybe firewall issue?
[04:04] <NavyWife> Histo: I have no clue. I am an Ubuntu/linux baby
[04:04] <crohakon> Nah, I am up for the no console challenge. It will help me learn more.
[04:04] <histo> NavyWife: I'm confused can you clearify what you want to do again?
[04:05] <crohakon> Though, I might be asking a few questions.... =)
[04:05] <NavyWife> Histo: I have a DL of the wine tar.bz2 I need to install (1.1.17) and I have no clue how to run the code to get it to install. I am in need of the emulator to run EverQuest2. Have used 1.1.31 Wine in the past, but EQ2 crashes on this release
[04:06] <comfnumb> histo: well there arent any settings to adjust within the game... does ubuntu have its own firewall controls? or do i control it elsewhere?
[04:06] <histo> NavyWife: ahh what version is availble in the repos? try apt-cache showpkg wine
[04:06] <NavyWife> Histo: Let me try that.
[04:07] <histo> comfnumb: if you've installed a firewall it does. Also you could be behind a router/modem thats giving you issues.
[04:07] <tehbaut> Anyone have any clues why apps no longer put shortcuts in the main menu after I customized the menu?
[04:08] <histo> NavyWife: if its not the specific version you need I would suggest downloading the .deb from the wine site for the version you need. If you have a .deb you can just double click and install it.  You downloaded the source version the tar.gz
[04:08] <NavyWife> Histo: Is this what I am looking for?
[04:08] <NavyWife> Reverse Depends:
[04:08] <NavyWife>   playonlinux,wine
[04:08] <NavyWife>   wine-gecko,wine
[04:08] <NavyWife>   wine-dev,wine 1.1.31~winehq0~ubuntu~9.04-0ubuntu1
[04:08] <NavyWife>   wine-gecko,wine
[04:08] <FloodBot1> NavyWife: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:08] <histo> NavyWife: yeah it wants to install 1.1.31
[04:09] <NavyWife> Histo: The deb site is erroring out, on both this machine and a windows machine
[04:09] <histo> NavyWife: which is wierd did you add the wine repos to your sources.list?
[04:09] <NavyWife> Histo: Um, no clue? <-- TOTALLY new to Linux by about a month
[04:09] <histo> NavyWife: because 1.1.31 isn't in the repos for 9.04
[04:09] <histo> !info wine
[04:10] <NavyWife> Histo: Event not found?
[04:10] <axisys> is there a way to install using ubuntu directly from internet.. i dont want to burn a new CD every six months.. i guess one option would be PXE and point to ISO on another disk.. but what if my laptop is the only computer available? i am looking for a default boot iso that can be used for every ubuntu release.. so it will get the network layer and then let me pick the ubunut iso release .. and will work for ubuntu release ..
[04:10] <histo> NavyWife: see 1.0.1-0 is in the repository.  Hrm... System > Administration > Software Sources see if you have any third party repositories enabled.
[04:10] <axisys> s/install using ubuntu/install ubuntu/
[04:10] <histo> !install > axisys
[04:10] <DaZ> axisys: you can use a pendrive
[04:10] <DaZ> axisys: or dist-uprade which usually kills ubuntu
[04:11] <Flannel> axisys: How about booting from a USB?
[04:11] <NavyWife> Histo: Wine HQ is listed under Third Party Software
[04:11] <IdleOne> NavyWife: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb will install the development version
[04:11] <axisys> Daz, Flannel: booting from USB would work..
[04:11] <NavyWife> IdleOne: I need 1.1.17. Game crashes on 1.1.31 and deb site times out
[04:11] <crohakon> scanning the mirror....
[04:12] <axisys> histo: i have toruble getting pm.. i have issue with my irssi..
[04:12] <histo> NavyWife: will your game work with 1.0.1
[04:12] <axisys> !install
[04:12] <Flannel> axisys: You can use a recent version of Ubuntu (including a liveCD) to turn an arbitrary iso into a USB installer/live environment
[04:12] <NavyWife> Histo: Um.... Yes
[04:12] <axisys> Flannel: i dont want to keep burning CD
[04:12] <NavyWife> Histo: Anything over .94
[04:13] <DaZ> axisys: unetbootin
[04:13] <histo> NavyWife: but not 1.1.31 right?
[04:13] <NavyWife> Histo: Correct
[04:13] <axisys> DaZ: hmm
[04:13] <NavyWife> Histo: Crashes after zone load
[04:13] <histo> NavyWife: okay un check the wine HQ repository. Then update the database.
[04:14] <histo> NavyWife: then open a terminal and run the following commands. sudo aptitude purge wine && sudo aptitude install wine
[04:14] <Senesence> Where can I find the USB mount rules?
[04:14] <histo> NavyWife: it should then remove whatever version of wine you have now and install 1.0.1 from the official ubuntu repos.
[04:14] <NavyWife> Histo: Unchecked, updating.
[04:16] <crohakon> What is LAMP server?
[04:16] <axisys> DaZ: wow! unetbootin is awesome..
[04:16] <Flannel> crohakon: Linux Apache MySQL PHP (or some variation thereof)
[04:16] <NavyWife> Histo: E Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?
[04:16] <DaZ> [;
[04:17] <crohakon> So it just gives websites hosted on the box the ability to use php?
[04:17] <NavyWife> Histo: What now?
[04:17] <histo> NavyWife: when did you get that error?
[04:17] <Flannel> crohakon: And MySQL, sure.
[04:17] <DaZ> crohakon: it doesn't have to be php
[04:17] <DaZ> it can be python
[04:17] <NavyWife> Histo: At the end of the purge? i think. I agreed to remove
[04:17] <histo> NavyWife: okay is software sources still open? Or update manager?
[04:17] <crohakon> So what is the PostgreSQL database? Just a different alternative to MySQL? Or something entirely different?
[04:18] <histo> NavyWife: Make sure those are closed first then do the purge.
[04:18] <DaZ> alternative ;f
[04:18] <Flannel> crohakon: Yeah, you can use postgres instead of mysql, it's just another choice of DB
[04:18] <hugoshi> I just upgraded to karmic koala, and my screen no longer shows advanced features, I wanted to reconfigure the screen package, but when I do sudo dpkg-reconfigure screen, I get "This is not dpkg install-info anymore, but GNU install-info
[04:18] <hugoshi> "
[04:18] <crohakon> MySql it is
[04:18] <Flannel> hugoshi: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic support, thanks
[04:18] <hugoshi> oh thanks
[04:19] <matthew1> so the new ubuntu is around the corner. if I do the update (from 9.04) will that reset my themes, settings etc?
[04:19] <GreyWare> there are 1300 people in this channel
[04:19] <takamarou> Anyone know what to do about the pulseaudio memory leak bug in 9.10?
[04:19] <histo> matthew1: your settings will stay.
[04:19] <crohakon> its a good channel..
[04:19] <NavyWife> Histo: Trying that now. Thought it was all closed
[04:19] <slango> can HFS+ be mounted in Ubuntu?
[04:19] <histo> !karmic > takamarou
[04:19] <histo> NavyWife: yeah you typically get that error when more than one process is trying to install packages.
[04:19] <DaZ> slango: imo yes
[04:20] <DaZ> slango: try and tell us :f
[04:20] <matthew1> histo...so my borders, menus, background and conky will stay the same?
[04:20] <NavyWife> Histo: Okay, done. Now will try to reinstall
[04:20] <histo> NavyWife: did you install the 1.0.1 from the repos?
[04:20] <slango> DaZ: in your opinion? excuse me if I'm a little bit hesitant based on how you put that.
[04:20] <NavyWife> Histo: Was just going to run the sudo to install now
[04:20] <histo> matthew1: Yes that stuff is all in your ~. Shouldn't touch anyting in your home
[04:20] <axisys> anyone help me fig out why multitouch does not work on my touchpad.. i am using ubuntu 9.04 on hp 6730b .. it used to work fine on my old laptop hp nc6220
[04:20] <Flannel> slango: I don't believe so.
[04:21] <histo> NavyWife: well do sudo apt-cache showpkg wine  and make sure its the old versiont hat its seeing now.
[04:21] <matthew1> histo, fantastic thanks.
[04:21] <DaZ> slango: if it's not fully supported it'd be read-only anyway
[04:21] <axisys> by multitouch i meant two finger tap
[04:21] <NavyWife> Histo: It's reinstalling 1.1.31 good grief
[04:21] <takamarou> histo, unfortunately, I did not choose to install 9.10.  I did a sudo aptitude full-upgrade, and was surprised with a beta version of 9.10.   Have you heard any solutions to the bug?
[04:21] <russlar> DaZ, slango: it'll mount read-write is you have the right packages installed
[04:22] <histo> NavyWife: well remove that. Make sure the third party repos are removed. Then sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude showpkg wine     it should show 1.0.1
[04:22] <histo> takamarou: ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:22] <russlar> slango: you'll want hfsprogs, hfsplus and hfsutils
[04:22] <histo> NavyWife: brb in a minute
[04:22] <NavyWife> Histo: Thank you. I am trying to get this to work
[04:22] <slango> russlar: is HFS+ an open file system?
[04:23] <russlar> slango: mostly
[04:23] <slango> that is... is it safe to use often in Linux?
[04:23] <]RandoM[> i think this is isp related.. but now when i connect to irc the server says my hostname is too long and uses my IP instead.
[04:23] <russlar> i don't think hfs is same to use anywhere, even on mac
[04:23] <russlar> but I have used it
[04:23] <slango> russlar: fair enough
[04:24] <russlar> but those packages I listed will let you mount and make hfs+ filesysstems
[04:25] <tehbaut> is Karmic stablizing fairly quickly?
[04:25] <d0htem> hopefully
[04:25] <d0htem> karmic was @#!%!@# last time i used it
[04:25] <BoxMagnet> can someone help me, can't get samba to work between 2 ubuntu boxes. for the life of me I have checked the settings 100 times.
[04:25] <d0htem> but its ok ill use jaunty forever
[04:26] <tehbaut> I ran the first beta, but forgot why I stopped using it
[04:26] <michaelhoward> I thought the beta version would have some show stoppers in it. now i dont see why they didnt just release this as final? works perfect.
[04:26] <Kaius> d0htem: Me too. Karmic. Bleh.
[04:26] <histo> NavyWife: okay what version is it showing now
[04:26] <d0htem> Kaius: :D
[04:26] <d0htem> Kaius: +1
[04:26] <NavyWife> Histo: 1.1.31
[04:26] <tehbaut> long live Lucid :D
[04:26] <NavyWife> Histo: After the purge
[04:26] <d0htem> lol
[04:26] <sebsebseb> dougl:   Kaius   make sure you clean install the final of Karmic, otherwise yes it won't be that great
[04:26] <histo> NavyWife: did you run sudo aptitude update  ?
[04:26] <sebsebseb> dougl: wrong one
[04:26] <sebsebseb> d0htem: see above
[04:26] <NavyWife> Histo: Um....
[04:26] <NavyWife> Histo: Am now
[04:27] <WanHouse> tehbaut: Slimey bitchman
[04:27] <BoxMagnet> can someone help me, can't get samba to work between 2 ubuntu boxes. for the life of me I have checked the settings 100 times.
[04:27] <Kaius> sebsebseb: I'm waiting for it. I'll dl it again on the 29th or whatever.
[04:27] <histo> NavyWife: k then check the version with apt-cache showpkg wine
[04:27] <Billiard> BoxMagnet: can they ping eachother
[04:27] <tehbaut> WanHouse: that bad, eh?
[04:27] <sebsebseb> Kaius: Do a clean install :)  Ext4 by default and Grub 2 for clean installs
[04:27] <BoxMagnet> Billiard, yea, i can ssh in and remote desktop
[04:27] <BoxMagnet> Billiard, and it worked yesterday ...
[04:27] <sebsebseb> Kaius: also the download servers will be packed on that day
[04:27] <NavyWife> Histo: Waiting...
[04:28] <Kaius> sebsebseb: I'll wait. I'm happy with Jaunty in the meantime.
[04:28] <d0htem> sebsebseb: ?
[04:28] <d0htem> see above what?
[04:28] <WanHouse> tehbaut: Yeah, the windows morons that always try to priv us. Lady with alot of cats / ray charles :)
[04:28] <sebsebseb> d0htem: see when I messaged  Kaius
[04:29] <WanHouse> YOU SHOULD HAVE LEFT US AT THE LATAIR !!!
[04:29] <WanHouse> ALTAIR
[04:29] <BoxMagnet> altar.
[04:29] <Flannel> WanHouse: Please keep this channel ontopic.
[04:29] <WanHouse> Damn wimen :)
[04:29] <NavyWife> Histo: Trying again
[04:29] <d0htem> sebsebseb: of course i did
[04:29] <d0htem> d0htem: it was really buggy and it complained about my broken ass hd
[04:29] <d0htem> which was nice but seriously got on my nerves
[04:30] <sebsebseb> d0htem: oh you mean it wanted to disk check on every boot up?
[04:30] <d0htem> no
[04:30] <d0htem> gave me hd health warning after sign in
[04:30] <sebsebseb> d0htem: ok well maybe there is something wrong with your hard drive
[04:30] <d0htem> oh yeah definetly but even though it was REALLY buggy
[04:30] <histo> NavyWife: could be that you have the 1.1.31 package in your archives.  You may have to sudo aptitude purge wine && sudo aptitude clean
[04:30] <d0htem> grub2 looks awesome though!
[04:31] <BoxMagnet> can someone help me, can't get samba to work between 2 ubuntu boxes. for the life of me I have checked the settings 100 times. http://pastebin.com/m569bc42f
[04:31] <pistyman> has anybody else had this problem:
[04:31] <pistyman> i go to display preferences and the window pops up, but it is it blank and the whole computer slows down until i force quit it, and one cpu is running at 100% the whole time
[04:31] <sebsebseb> d0htem: it looks the same to me
[04:31] <tehbaut> Flannel: I thought he was talking about Karmic (since that's all I was talking about, and he replied to me)
[04:31] <histo> NavyWife: then you should be able to sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install wine
[04:31] <tehbaut> heh
[04:31] <NavyWife> Histo: Running sudo aptitude clean now
[04:32] <histo> NavyWife: That will delete all the cahced packages then you can sudo aptitude update and you should see the old version.
[04:32] <Johannes[iPhone]> Hi
[04:33] <NavyWife> Histo: AH HA!
[04:33] <progesterone> question: On Window, we used to install program under c:/programs. How about on Ubuntu?
[04:33] <NavyWife> Histo: Take THAT Linux
[04:33] <BoxMagnet> progesterone, /usr/bin
[04:33] <progesterone> BoxMagnet Thanks
[04:33] <BoxMagnet> progesterone, thats for the executable files only.
[04:34] <BoxMagnet> progesterone, configurations go in /etc/
[04:34] <histo> NavyWife: I take it you can install the old version of wine now?
[04:34] <progesterone> BoxMagnet ok ... Thanks buddy
[04:34] <BoxMagnet> can someone help me, can't get samba to work between 2 ubuntu boxes. for the life of me I have checked the settings 100 times. http://pastebin.com/m569bc42f
[04:34] <NavyWife> Histo: It installed!
[04:34] <sebsebseb> progesterone: add/remove, synaptic, or the command line
[04:34] <histo> NavyWife: cool. Sorry I forgot about the apt cache
[04:34] <NavyWife> Histo: I think you may be my hero of the day!
[04:35] <crohakon> So... how do I see what is running from console
[04:35] <BoxMagnet> crohakon, top
[04:35] <NavyWife> Histo: Going to attempt my game now. May be back
[04:35] <m0r0n> My cd isn't reading, anyone know any how to fix this?
[04:35] <sebsebseb> progesterone: the actsaul program files for programs, you don't noramlley need to know where those go,   user data though goes in hidden .folders in home, and if you remove for example .mozilla or move it, and re open FIrefox, it's like you just installed Firefox for a first time
[04:35] <BoxMagnet> NavyWife, what game?
[04:35] <Billiard> m0r0n: windex?
[04:35] <NavyWife> BoxMagnet: EQ2
[04:35] <histo> NavyWife: k good luck
[04:36] <NavyWife>  :D
[04:36] <m0r0n> Billiard: The CD is clean.
[04:36] <NavyWife> histo: Thanks again
[04:36] <BoxMagnet> eq2 not familliar, i just setup starcraft today for something to do lol.
[04:36] <histo> NavyWife: np
[04:36] <NavyWife> Ahhh
[04:36] <Billiard> m0r0n: does the cd work in other machines?
[04:36] <NavyWife> Great game, EXCEPT on Linux I am learning
[04:36] <DaZ> new sc2 battle report is out
[04:36] <DaZ> btw :f
[04:36] <m0r0n> Billiard: Yes sir.
[04:37] <BoxMagnet> anyone who knows samba around!?
[04:37] <Billiard> m0r0n: what happens when trying to read on non working machine?
[04:37] <histo> NavyWife: you ahve to remember you are trying to ram a square peg in a round hole.
[04:37] <histo> !ask | BoxMagnet
[04:37] <NavyWife> Histo: Isn't THAT the truth
[04:37] <BoxMagnet> histo, I did ask it a few times with a link to the pastebin
[04:37] <crohakon> What is a good ftp client for gnome?
[04:37] <BoxMagnet> can someone help me, can't get samba to work between 2 ubuntu boxes. for the life of me I have checked the settings 100 times. http://pastebin.com/m569bc42f
[04:37] <progesterone> sebsebseb Thanks
[04:38] <m0r0n> Billiard: Non-working machine? the disk drive just blinks green and then stops, in Ubuntu but not windows, windows it appears to be fine
[04:38] <sebsebseb> progesterone: np
[04:38] <histo> BoxMagnet: sry didn't see you asking. I'm unable to browse to links though to see your pastebin right now. I'm in cli while memtesting a machien i'm working on.
[04:38] <sebsebseb> progesterone: sudo apt-get install program that's how simple it is to do using the termianl for most
[04:38] <Billiard> m0r0n: do any discs work in your ubuntu?
[04:38] <histo> BoxMagnet: what is the problem with it?  You can see the other machine in Places > Network
[04:39] <BoxMagnet> histo, no, only network, but it used to show up and I have changed no settings to my knowledge
[04:39] <m0r0n> Billiard: None
[04:39] <BoxMagnet> histo, i can ssh in and remote desktop ...
[04:39] <histo> BoxMagnet: what about trying to browse to the IP or connect to the server via IP?
[04:39] <BoxMagnet> histo, how do i go about that?
[04:40] <m0r0n> Billiard: However, it was working before, the lastest tweak I did was delete Eclipse and Netbeans
[04:40] <crohakon> What is a good gui ftp client? Filezilla will not install for somereason, I guess because it will not run on 64 bit?
[04:40] <Freddy_007> Anyone have experience getting Tomcat to work with Apache2 ?
[04:40] <BoxMagnet> histo, ok, it says failed to receive share list from server
[04:40] <histo> BoxMagnet: I believeyou can connect to server via the Places menu if not try under Appolications > Internet  There should be a connect to server option. Or you can open nautilus and enter the //theip
[04:40] <m0r0n> Billiard: Odd, or maybe not, after I closed GParted it started to work, thanks anyways
[04:41] <Billiard> m0r0n: ok
[04:41] <histo> BoxMagnet: are you sure samba is running on the machine? /etc/init.d/samba status
[04:41] <BoxMagnet> on the server?
[04:41] <histo> BoxMagnet: yes sudo /etc/init.d/samba status
[04:41] <Bossmanbeta> how do you force ubuntuone to sync with the cloud? No one's answering in #ubuntuone. I tried disconnecting/re-connecting, doesn't seem to work and I've added files I don't see in the web interface.
[04:41] <BoxMagnet> histo, ok, ill be shocked its not running why the heck is that
[04:41] <pistyman> ok i worked it out
[04:41] <BoxMagnet> histo, i know how to (re)start it.
[04:42] <epaphus> Hello, how do I disable umass in the kernel of ubuntu?
[04:42] <epaphus> usb support that is
[04:42] <histo> BoxMagnet: k make sure its running and listening. You can see if its listening with netstat
[04:42] <WanHouse> Reminds me, Im supposed to ask if i can get rid of some nice because of a booring factor or something
[04:42] <BoxMagnet> epaphus, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[04:42] <axisys> !automate
[04:42] <horn> test
[04:43] <tehbaut> is it possible to get a list of all commands/apps?
[04:43] <WanHouse> dike
[04:43] <horn> hi,everybody
[04:43] <crohakon> No one is willing to recommend a gui ftp client? =(
[04:43] <histo> BoxMagnet: netstat -ta should show smtp
[04:43] <Bossmanbeta> crohakon, filezilla
[04:43] <histo> BoxMagnet: sry
[04:43] <tehbaut> I swear I've installed some toolbox app but I can't figure out how to access it
[04:43] <crohakon> ubuntu will not allow filezilla to install because it says it will not run on x64
[04:43] <crohakon> otherwise, yes, I would use filezilla
[04:44] <BoxMagnet> histo, yes?
[04:44] <Freddy_007> Anyone have experience getting Tomcat to work with Apache2 ?
[04:44] <_MrsApple_> hello, i dl a couple of reaallly short clips and they didnt show up on my desk top. where can i find them, and also the screen that shows how far along they were downloaded?
[04:44] <crohakon> though it is odd... filezilla installed and worked just fine on opensuse x64.... *innocent expression*
[04:44] <m0r0n> Windows reads FAT32 right?
[04:44] <senup> how can i tell my default gateway
[04:44] <pistyman> when i try to install the driver from here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx it doesnt work. it says it cant detect the characer coding
[04:44] <Billiard> m0r0n: yes
[04:44] <BoxMagnet> m0r0n, yes..
[04:44] <othman> right
[04:44] <Bossmanbeta> crohakon, https://www.ohloh.net/projects/filezilla/download?filename=FileZilla_3.2.8.1_x86_64-linux-gnu.tar.bz2
[04:45] <crohakon> oh, that is helpful. Thank you bossmanbeta. =)
[04:45] <Billiard> m0r0n: most flash drives are formatted fat32
[04:45] <histo> BoxMagnet: scratch that i'm not sure if you are going to see it listening on 139
[04:45] <Bossmanbeta> sure crohakon
[04:45] <m0r0n> I formatted my flash drive to FAT32, now with the USB creater thing, it's not letting me install on it
[04:45] <Bossmanbeta> how do you force ubuntuone to sync with the cloud? No one's answering in #ubuntuone. I tried disconnecting/re-connecting, doesn't seem to work and I've added files I don't see in the web interface.
[04:45] <Billiard> m0r0n: install what?
[04:45] <horn> whois billiard
[04:45] <BoxMagnet> histo, it was there, i just restarted samba
[04:45] <histo> BoxMagnet: did that help at all?
[04:46] <m0r0n> Billiard: Ubuntu
[04:46] <Billiard> m0r0n: dont install ubuntu on fat32
[04:46] <BoxMagnet> histo, no.
[04:46] <horn> quit
[04:46] <m0r0n> Billiard: I made a ext3 partition, but the installer saw only the fat32
[04:46] <Bossmanbeta> crohakon, also here: http://www.getdeb.net/app/FileZilla for the .deb's
[04:46] <epaphus> BoxMagnet, is it necessary to restart after editing the blacklist?
[04:47] <falserunes> help with alsa-base.conf
[04:47] <crohakon> what is a deb?
[04:47] <BoxMagnet> epaphus, use sudo rmmod modname
[04:47] <Billiard> m0r0n: fat32 has no permissions, im not sure if ubuntu will even let you install to it
[04:47] <BoxMagnet> epaphus, rmod
[04:47] <Bossmanbeta> crohakon, auto install for ubuntu -- no make config
[04:47] <falserunes> I want my /dev/dsp1 to output to /dev/dsp0
[04:47] <BoxMagnet> epaphus, ok sorry it is rmmod
[04:47] <othman> how to run 32 bit software in ubuntu 64 ?
[04:47] <falserunes> does anyone know how to configure that
[04:47] <crohakon> oh nice. You are most helpful bossmanbeta.
[04:48] <Bossmanbeta> sure crohakon -- cheers
[04:48] <crohakon> Wait... is ubuntu based on debian?
[04:48] <falserunes> thanks for the help ahead of time
[04:48] <Billiard> othman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790
[04:48] <Bossmanbeta> crohakon, yes
[04:48] <othman> thx
[04:49] <BoxMagnet> histo, any ideas
[04:49] <mb_again_> !debian
[04:49] <histo> BoxMagnet: i'll let you know once I get a gui up to take a look at your paste bin
[04:49] <crohakon> Wow... I have come back to my roots and did not even know it. The first linux dist I ever poked around in was debian. I remember ordering the CD's when I was like 16. lol Nice.
[04:49] <BoxMagnet> histo, ok
[04:49] <histo> BoxMagnet: firewall issue maybe?
[04:49] <ezzieyguywuf> I have a question for any scipy users: is there a way to solve equations in scipy like the solve() function in my ti-89? on the ti-89 I can input an equation with any number of variables and solve in terms of that variabl.
[04:49] <BoxMagnet> histo, sorry forgot about your situation.
[04:49] <Bossmanbeta> crohakon, welcome back.
[04:50] <Billiard> ezzieyguywuf: qalc does this i know
[04:50] <Bossmanbeta> crohakon, .deb's are li ke .RPM's
[04:50] <Bossmanbeta> (fyi)
[04:50] <ezzieyguywuf> Billiard: i'll google it
[04:50] <BoxMagnet> histo, need i open ports on router?
[04:50] <Billiard> ezzieyguywuf: its in the repos, just apt-get install qalc
[04:51] <ezzieyguywuf> Billiard: is it a python module?
[04:51] <Bossmanbeta> how do you force ubuntuone to sync with the cloud? No one's answering in #ubuntuone. I tried disconnecting/re-connecting, doesn't seem to work and I've added files I don't see in the web interface.
[04:51] <Billiard> ezzieyguywuf: no its a standalone program
[04:51] <ezzieyguywuf> Billiard: I'll check it out
[04:51] <Billiard> ezzieyguywuf: there is a gui version qalculate
[04:52] <tehbaut> is it possible to allow a 5 char root password?
[04:52] <russlar> tehbaut: possible: yes
[04:53] <russlar> tehbaut: a good idea? no
[04:53] <sebsebseb> tehbaut: recommended though, nope
[04:53] <crohakon> ftp default port is 21, yes?
[04:53] <BoxMagnet> yes
[04:53] <sebsebseb> !noroot |  tehbaut
[04:53] <navap> crohakon: Yes
[04:53] <tehbaut> I know, I know
[04:53] <mb_again_> ezzieyguywuf: it looks like solving is a proposal for enhancement in scipy at the moment see http://www.scipy.org/SolversProposal?highlight=(solver)
[04:53] <russlar> !wfm ?
[04:53] <tehbaut> I was told to enable it for vmware
[04:53] <russlar> !wfm
[04:53] <crohakon> So, with ubuntu server edition... is an ftp server installed by default or must I install it post install?
[04:53] <ezzieyguywuf> mb_again_: I've been told to check out sympy. currently doing that...
[04:54] <sebsebseb> crohakon: #ubuntu-server for help with it
[04:54] <russlar> crohakon: if you didn't select it in the installer, no
[04:54] <Freddy_007> crohakon: I think you need to select it during install
[04:54] <crohakon> I did not see it in the installer =( Okay, I will go elsewhere with my questions. hehe
[04:54] <bastid_raZor> crohakon: the server plus the desktop come with a command line ftp.. it is called scp
[04:54] <sebsebseb> crohakon: well you can get help in here as well I guess
[04:56] <BoxMagnet> will ubuntu run much better on a PCI sata controller+sataII drive, than a normal IDE drive
[04:57]  * histo Hates bad ram been banging my head against the wall for a while on this one.
[04:58] <histo> BoxMagnet: it will have faster read/write times to the drive and data transfers
[04:58] <BoxMagnet> histo, how long does memtest take?
[04:58] <histo> BoxMagnet: for ever
[04:58] <histo> BoxMagnet: Now I just have to figure out which stick it is.
[04:59] <BoxMagnet> histo, good, i have a nice promise sataII controller+WD caviar 320gb 16mb sataII on the way
[04:59] <BoxMagnet> for my older media server.
[04:59] <histo> BoxMagnet: a lot faster than ide
[04:59] <histo> BoxMagnet: you can find stats online for speed ratings of sata compaired to ide etc...
[04:59] <epaphus> Is there anyway I can get ubuntu to rescan my NIC, or is that done upon kernel boot?
[05:00] <histo> epaphus: what do you mean look for an ip again?
[05:00] <BoxMagnet> histo, as long as the controller is bootable I will be happy, I hear ubuntu 9,04 supports it out of the box, but if i cant use it as the main drive then im real disapointed. thats why I went with an expensive controller
[05:00] <russlar> epaphus: do you just want a different ip?
[05:00] <epaphus> histo, russlar no.. its not onfiguring the device.. for some weird reason
[05:00] <histo> epaphus: does it see the device?  lspci
[05:00] <BoxMagnet> epaphus, if you want a dif ip from the isp etc. you need to change the mac of the nic if i remember correctly.
[05:00] <russlar> epaphus: hmmm.... wired?
[05:00] <progesterone> question: is JRE or JDK pre-installed on Ubuntu?
[05:01] <lilzeus> Im confused, I have 2 ubuntu machines on home network, both have samba installed, I have shared a folder on one, how do I access it from the other?
[05:01] <histo> epaphus: and has it ever worked?
[05:01] <Freddy_007> progesterone: don't think so
[05:01] <thiebaude> progesterone,java isn't default on ubuntu
[05:01] <BoxMagnet> lilzeus, i wish i knew.
[05:01] <histo> lilzeus: Places > Network  Or you can mount the share
[05:01] <thiebaude> you have to install it
[05:01] <progesterone> Freddy_007 thiebaude Thanks
[05:01] <thiebaude> progesterone, np
[05:02] <lilzeus> histo: the share does not show up in Places > Network
[05:02] <lilzeus> BoxMagnet: I think you probably DO know
[05:02] <histo> lilzeus: he's having the same problem.
[05:02] <lilzeus> ;)
[05:02] <BoxMagnet> lilzeus, nope, mine does not work
[05:02] <BoxMagnet> worked yesterday though
[05:02] <histo> mine just works
[05:02] <BoxMagnet> g4u ;-)
[05:02] <histo> BoxMagnet: did you install any updates?
[05:03] <BoxMagnet> histo, nope.
[05:03] <BoxMagnet> been working on the other machine
[05:03] <lilzeus> BoxMagnet: I know you are better at this stuff than me, figured you were being sarcastic, no disrespect :)
[05:03] <histo> BoxMagnet: thats just odd. Something had to have changed.
[05:03] <histo> lilzeus: how did you create your share?
[05:03] <BoxMagnet> lilzeus, haha, dude im happy to help i do know the answers to alot of stuff because i have a photographic memory.
[05:03] <epaphus> histo, if I use the 9.04 live cd it does. and this is the 9.04 kernel
[05:04] <BoxMagnet> lilzeus, what are you using to configure samba
[05:04] <lilzeus> histo: right clicked on folder, Sharing Options
[05:04] <histo> epaphus: what tyep of network card is it?
[05:04] <lilzeus> BoxMagnet: I modified the smb.conf file...so I guess gedit?
[05:04] <russlar> epaphus: take a look at /etc/udev/70-persistent-net.rules
[05:04] <russlar> epaphus: make sure it's listed in there
[05:05] <histo> lilzeus: try installing smbtree  see if you can see the share with that
[05:05] <BoxMagnet> lilzeus, open a pm i think i figured it out
[05:05] <BoxMagnet> haha!
[05:05] <histo> BoxMagnet: what was your issue?
[05:05] <lilzeus> I made the workgroup the same name as the workgroup name my windows machines are using MSHOME
[05:05] <speed> Hello everyone
[05:05] <BoxMagnet> usershare owner only = false
[05:05] <speed> would anyone be able to help me with ATI xpress 200m drivers?
[05:06] <histo> BoxMagnet: that should be the default
[05:06] <BoxMagnet> great
[05:06] <BoxMagnet> it worked like two times. now its broken again!
[05:07] <lilzeus> histo: all I see in Nework is "Windows Network" and when I click on that it says
[05:07] <BoxMagnet> when I try to right click share + add share I get this. 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: share name /home/pete contains invalid characters (any of %<>*?|/\+=;:",)
[05:07] <histo> BoxMagnet: I don't even have that line in my smb.conf
[05:07] <BoxMagnet> what the hell
[05:08] <histo> BoxMagnet: is there a spacke or wierd character in your ~?
[05:08] <BoxMagnet> histo, no, if i change it to something else, i get this... 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot share path /home/pete/storage as we are restricted to only sharing directories we own.
[05:08] <BoxMagnet> 	Ask the administrator to add the line "usershare owner only = false"
[05:08] <BoxMagnet> 	to the [global] section of the smb.conf to allow this
[05:08] <histo> lilzeus: try connecting directly to the ip from windows
[05:09] <histo> BoxMagnet: Whats your security line set to?
[05:09] <BoxMagnet> user
[05:09] <histo> BoxMagnet: do you want it to prompt you?
[05:09] <pitput> how do I add a sound adjusting icon on my panel?
[05:09] <BoxMagnet> histo, no.
[05:09] <histo> BoxMagnet: you could try changing it to share instead of user.
[05:10] <linden940> i need some help...
[05:10] <BoxMagnet> histo, ok
[05:10] <lilzeus> histo: I just want two ubuntu machines to talk to each other...file sharing-wise
[05:10] <linden940> i am pulling my hair
[05:10] <thiebaude> pitput, right click panel, add to panel
[05:10] <linden940> can anyone here help me plez?
[05:10] <jony123> my screen seems very dim athlough its connected to the powe apadter
[05:11] <Ether> only on linux machine?
[05:11] <pitput> thiebaude, i'm using 9.10 and i don't see it when i right click and press add to panel
[05:11] <histo> lilzeus: try connnecting to it via ip
[05:11] <Ether> could be a backlight out if it always does it
[05:11] <lilzeus> histo: in both machines, the smb.conf file has the workgroup set to MSHOME
[05:11] <histo> pitput: 9.10 support is in #ubuntu+1
[05:11] <BoxMagnet> histo, did not work
[05:11] <neoneddy> Anyone ever had cifs or smbfs shares mount fine, but not display files?
[05:11] <thiebaude> pitput, drag and drop sound from the menu to the panel, i just did it
[05:11] <Billiard> linden940: what is the problem
[05:11] <thiebaude> in 9.10
[05:12] <histo> BoxMagnet: make sure the share is public = yes and guest ok = yes   You can also force user and force group so that the file permissions don't get all goofy when someone writes to it.
[05:12] <lilzeus> histo: I lied, one of them was set to WORKGROUP
[05:12] <BoxMagnet> histo, ok will try
[05:12] <histo> BoxMagnet: also make sure you share name doesn't have some goofy space or something int he smb.conf
[05:13] <speed> okay right now i'm installing Envy; Is there any recommendations for using it to get ATI drivers setup?
[05:13] <histo> lilzeus: that could be an issue also smbtree will show you a graphical map of the network in cli
[05:13] <lilzeus> I modified the smb.conf so that it says MSHOME now...is restart sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart?
[05:13] <epaphus> russlar, is it normal that i have 4 entires in there?
[05:13] <histo> !envy | speed
[05:13] <shawn_> shawn_ > !list
[05:13] <histo> speed: NOT a supported method (key words)
[05:13] <BoxMagnet> histo, share modes = yes for my share
[05:13] <BoxMagnet> ?
[05:14] <histo> box?
[05:14] <pshr_> hey any idea on how to convert a html (URL given) to convert all the links in it to form a single file like chm, for eg i have http://c-faq.com/~scs/cgi-bin/faqcat.cgi how to convert that into a single compilation
[05:14] <neoneddy> I should clarify, this only happens with my Apple AirDisk share from the Airport Extreme
[05:14] <neoneddy> worked fine, before I installed 9.04 fresh
[05:14] <speed> thanks histo
[05:14] <neoneddy> upgraded to 9.10 still no dice
[05:15] <BoxMagnet> histo, ?
[05:15] <lilzeus> BoxMagnet or histo: is restart for samba 'sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart' ?
[05:15] <BoxMagnet> yes
[05:15] <shawn_> !list
[05:15] <shawn_> What does !list even do I heard a channel say not to use it?
[05:16] <histo> BoxMagnet: I don't understand what you meant by share modes = yes
[05:16] <lilzeus> well, this machine the samba restart went fine, the other one had errors
[05:16] <russlar> epaphus: do you have 4 network cards?
[05:16] <BoxMagnet> histo, its in smb.conf under one of my shares
[05:16] <histo> shawn_: in some filesharing channels it would list all the bots that are serving
[05:16] <shawn_> histo Oh never been to a filesharing channel
[05:16] <histo> BoxMagnet: don't have it in mine.
[05:17] <epaphus> russlar, i onlyhave 1
[05:17] <BoxMagnet> histo, ok..
[05:17] <histo> BoxMagnet: I wish I could paste my share no way to copy and paste in cli that i'm using though.
[05:17] <bastid_raZor> histo: can you install pastebinit from where you are?
[05:18] <russlar> epaphus: try regenerating that file
[05:18] <russlar> sudo /lib/udev/write_net_rules
[05:18] <lilzeus-web> ok guys, this is me on the other ubuntu machine
[05:19] <pitput> how do I add a sound adjusting icon on my panel?
[05:19] <epaphus> russlar, the output is that is missing $INTERFACE
[05:20] <pitput> the ubuntu +1 isn't smart enough to solve my problem
[05:20] <russlar> !spam
[05:20] <thiebaude> pitput, drag and drop sound from your menu to the panel
[05:20] <russlar> epaphus: try rebooting, then
[05:20] <russlar> epaphus: other than that, I have no idea
[05:20] <lilzeus> now when I double click the Windows Network, nothing shows up
[05:21] <lilzeus> wtf
[05:21] <histo> bastid_raZor: yes thats an option
[05:21] <einand_> now knowlage, empathy is the worst irc client ever made ;)
[05:21] <einand_> new
[05:22] <thiebaude> einand_, it seems incomplete
[05:22] <jordo2323> Everytime I start Tomboy nothing happens and when I try to add the tomboy icon to a panel nothing happens either.  Any ideas?
[05:22] <histo> BoxMagnet: http://pastebinit.com/fd2403dd is my smb.conf
[05:22] <einand_> thiebaude: more ugly
[05:23] <einand_> thiebaude: there is noway to se who sais what
[05:23] <thiebaude> einand_, i stick with xchat or pidgin
[05:23] <thiebaude> einand_, i cant even set it up
[05:23] <einand_> thiebaude: i prefere irssi, but i will try this for a while
[05:23] <Bouquet> I have 3 root partitions and a separate '/home' partition.  I did 'dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sda3 bs=10M' to copy my production partition to sda3 to test the upgrade.  I fixed /etc/fstab to set /=/dev/sda3, booted into it, and am ready to test the 9.10 upgrade process.  My /dev/sda1 production partition should be safe, right?
[05:23] <histo> BoxMagnet: ignore the last line with the guest ok = yes Idon't think that is needed.
[05:23] <lilzeus-web> Sorry, 'www.pastebinit.com' does not exist or is not available.
[05:24] <BoxMagnet> yep.
[05:24] <maco> lilzeus-web: pastebin.ca pastebin.com paste.ubuntu.com <-- these all exist
[05:24] <histo> k let me change the program hold up
[05:25] <histo> BoxMagnet: paste.ubuntu.com/297301
[05:25] <lilzeus-web> histo: the machine where I am sharing the folder, now displays Windows Network, and 2 shares
[05:26] <histo> lilzeus-web: do you have samba installed on the other machine?
[05:26] <lilzeus-web> maco: I was just listing the results when I clicked on histo's link :)
[05:26] <epaphus> Hello, how can I upgrade ubuntu from the terminal?
[05:26] <jordo2323> Everytime I start Tomboy nothing happens and when I try to add the tomboy icon to a panel nothing happens either.  Any ideas?
[05:26] <lilzeus-web> histo: yes of course, both machines have samba
[05:26] <Flannel> epaphus: From what version to what version?
[05:26] <datz> hi, how can I see if there are updates for a package?
[05:27] <datz> through terminal
[05:27] <lilzeus> histo: I am on the other machine now
[05:27] <histo> datz: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude showpkg <packagename>
[05:27] <datz> thanks
[05:27] <Flannel> datz: For a specific package? `apt-cache policy package` is one way
[05:27] <jony123> Is there a way to incress screen brightness while plugged in?
[05:27] <datz> package "subersion"
[05:27] <lilzeus> histo: Places>Network only shows Windows Network
[05:27] <histo> datz: you could check the version against the one that is installed with dpkg -l | grep <package name>  or listen to flannels way
[05:27] <maco> lilzeus-web: ah ok. i thought someone mentioned the pastebinit package and you were looking for a matching website
[05:27] <datz> oops subversion*
[05:28] <epaphus> Flannel, within.. just the packages.. for 9.10
[05:28] <histo> lilzeus: yeah it should show that way then inside of there will be your workgroup.
[05:28] <datz> ok
[05:28] <histo> lilzeus: install smbtree on the machine that you have the share and run that.
[05:28] <Flannel> epaphus: What?  You want to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10?
[05:28] <lilzeus> histo: Unable to mount location
[05:28] <progesterone> question: What's 'll' command-equivalent on Ubuntu terminal?
[05:28] <lilzeus> histo: Failed to retrieve share list from server
[05:28] <histo> epaphus: in #ubuntu+1 is support for 9.10
[05:29] <histo> lilzeus: when you run smbtree?
[05:29] <lilzeus> histo: on the machine sharing the folder, everything shows up fine
[05:29] <lilzeus> histo: on this machine is where I cannot access the other
[05:29] <datz> Does this mean there is no later version: Installed: 1.4.6dfsg1-2ubuntu1.1 Candidate: 1.4.6dfsg1-2ubuntu1.1
[05:30] <Bouquet> aw screw it, I'll just hit the big red button.
[05:30] <Flannel> datz: Have you done apt-get update recently?
[05:30] <histo> lilzeus: make sure you have samba-common on the machine that you can't access the other.
[05:30] <thiebaude> epaphus, update-manager -d
[05:30] <datz> yes
[05:30] <datz> let me try again
[05:30] <Flannel> datz: It means that as of your last apt-get update there's no newer version
[05:30] <datz> ok, so manually update?
[05:31] <datz> screen -r irssi
[05:31] <datz> oops
[05:31] <histo> datz: sudo apt-get update then run the command again
[05:31] <lilzeus> histo: yep, samba-common appears to be on here
[05:31]  * histo fingers crossed 90% pass with the bad stick removed hopefully memtest
[05:31] <epaphus> thiebaude, thanks.. i didnt explain myself well.
[05:32] <thiebaude> epaphus, np
[05:32] <BoxMagnet> histo, ok, now it says its already registered
[05:32] <BoxMagnet> when i try to open the share
[05:32] <BoxMagnet> i used ur smb.conf, edited of course.
[05:32] <BoxMagnet> and i added my self and samba quest account
[05:32] <datz> histo, same thing...looks like I need later version though. svn: This client is too old to work with working copy
[05:32] <BoxMagnet> to my group
[05:32]  * eclipse75 hugs BoxMagnet
[05:33] <BoxMagnet> eclipse75, lol
[05:33] <BoxMagnet> i think im going to kill my self soon
[05:33] <BoxMagnet> all i want to do is  watch a movie
[05:33] <BoxMagnet> arg
[05:33] <histo> BoxMagnet: you don't need users and guests with my smb.conf it just works and won't prompt for user pass when you connect.
[05:33] <epaphus> Hey guys, i installed icewm ... but I need a login screen for it (instead of GDM) .. what can i use?
[05:33] <Flannel> datz: There's an updated version (1.5.1) in hardy-backports
[05:34] <datz> thanks
[05:34] <BoxMagnet> histo, well it says already registered
[05:34] <histo> BoxMagnet: I really need my gui back to check but it will be a while perhaps someone else can help.  Thats just wierd. I don't get what is going on with you and lilzeus
[05:34] <datz> Flannel, do I have to add a repo?
[05:34] <ZykoticK9> epaphus, xdm - but it looks like it's from the 70s :(
[05:34] <lilzeus> histo: when I double click Windows Network from this machine, it is empty
[05:34]  * datz looks
[05:34] <BoxMagnet> me too
[05:35] <Flannel> datz: You need to enable backports, which could be seen as adding a repo.  I urge you not to enable -backports permanently, but just add it, update, install subversion, then remove it (don't upgrade)
[05:35] <lilzeus> the other machine(the one sharing the folder) everything shows up fine
[05:35] <Animagladius_> Night.
[05:36] <lilzeus> going to try something
[05:36] <lilzeus> attempting to share a folder on THIS machine, and see if the other can see it
[05:36] <datz> Flannel, ok...I'm only on command line here...any tutorials?
[05:36] <Flannel> datz: Yeah, it's easy.  Let me find one.
[05:36] <datz> thanks
[05:37] <BoxMagnet> ok
[05:37] <sam2> hello I need some information on ubuntu......
[05:37] <lilzeus> arrrggg
[05:37] <navap> !ask | sam2 
[05:37] <epaphus> ZykoticK9, is that the only option? xdm and gdm?=
[05:37] <Flannel> datz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[05:37] <ZykoticK9> epaphus, or kdm
[05:37] <thiebaude> sam2, what info?
[05:38] <sam2> I've been using fedora all these years , now I'm planning to shift to ubuntu..... I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS
[05:38] <lilzeus> now when I double click Windows Network, it opens and I see the workgroup(MSHOME), but when I double click that, I get that same 'unable to mount' error
[05:38] <datz> Flannel, thanks
[05:38] <sam2> Will yum update work in ubuntu???
[05:38] <thiebaude> sam2, what is your questions to the channel?
[05:38] <thiebaude> sam2, no
[05:38] <sam2> Will yum update work in ubuntu???
[05:38] <linden940> anyone that would call them selfs a pro with the xorg.conf?
[05:38] <Flannel> sam2: No, Ubuntu uses apt instead of rpm, but there's an equivalent command
[05:39] <Billiard> sam2: in ubuntu you will use apt-get update
[05:39] <lilzeus-web> so weird
[05:39] <linden940> anyone that would call them self a pro with xorg.conf? if so plez help me out here
[05:39] <lilzeus-web> this machine can see its own shares
[05:39] <sam2> ohhh.... k.... now after I install ubuntu, how to install KDE ??
[05:39] <Flannel> !anyone | lilzeus-web
[05:39] <lilzeus-web> the other cannot
[05:39] <Flannel> er,
[05:39] <Flannel> !anyone | linden940
[05:40] <Flannel> sam2: You'll be better off installing Kubuntu (assuming you just want KDE) instead of switching afterwards
[05:40] <Flannel> sam2: If you want both KDE and Gnome, just install the kubuntu-desktop package
[05:40] <lilzeus-web> I am going to restart the other machine, see if that helps
[05:41] <datz> Flannel, uncomment this? #deb https://edge.launchpad.net/~kklimonda/+archive/backports hardy main
[05:41] <histo> BoxMagnet: I just booted a livecd and I can connect to my share with that smb.conf on my server
[05:41] <sam2> Yes I actually want both kde and gnome....
[05:41] <Flannel> datz: No.  You want deb http://[your regular archive URL]/ubuntu hardy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:41] <lilzeus-web> lilzeus will be back
[05:41] <lilzeus-web> :)
[05:41] <linden940> can anyone help me mod the xorg.conf...i could use some help
[05:41] <BoxMagnet> lilzeus-web,
[05:41] <sam2> so after i install ubuntu how to get the kde??
[05:41] <Flannel> sam2: Alright, then it's as easy as installing "kubuntu-desktop"
[05:41] <BoxMagnet> got ur problem solved buddy
[05:42] <lilzeus-web> really?
[05:42] <histo> linden940: whats the problem?
[05:42] <DaZ> linden940: protip: ask exactly what you want to do :f
[05:42] <linden940> when i reboot my pc my res is real low
[05:42] <histo> linden940: what type of video card do you have?
[05:42] <ZykoticK9> linden940, are you able to pastebin your current xorg file - and tell the channel what you want changed.
[05:42] <thiebaude> !synaptic | sam2
[05:42] <linden940> so from all the reading i have been doing and as far as i have gotin i have been told that if i can mod the xorg.conf it would fix my promble
[05:43] <linden940> nvidia
[05:43] <sam2> should i give his command sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop ???
[05:43] <BoxMagnet> lilzeus-web, pm
[05:43] <datz> Flannel, humm, not seeing it, I guess I should find one to add?
[05:43] <Flannel> datz: What package manager are you using?
[05:43] <thiebaude> linden940, which nvidia?
[05:43] <Billiard> sam2: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:43] <linden940> not sure
[05:43] <linden940> lol
[05:43] <histo> BoxMagnet: Now i'm writing to it with out a problem
[05:44] <linden940> i 4got looking it up
[05:44] <thiebaude> linden940, what problem are you having?
[05:44] <datz> Flannel, using gome..ubuntu 8.04  default one I guess
[05:44] <datz> gnome*
[05:44] <histo> linden940: lspci | grep VGA should show you the chipset
[05:44] <sam2> ohhh cool
[05:44] <thiebaude> linden940, i have nvidia 8400 gs
[05:44] <BoxMagnet> histo, im using ssh now
[05:44] <linden940> when i reboot my pc the res is very small and i cant see anything
[05:44] <lilzeus-web> weird
[05:44] <Flannel> datz: Alright, lets just drop to the command line since it'll be easier to help you.  Close whatever you're looking at (package manager), and then do this in a terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:44] <sam2> how to get the nvidia drivers ..... i ususlly face a hell lot of problem in fedora
[05:44] <lilzeus-web> this machine can see its own shares, the other cannot see its own shares
[05:44] <thiebaude> linden940, System-administration-hardware drivers
[05:44] <datz> Flannel, I'm using only command line
[05:45] <epaphus> If X can be used with a client to connect to a remote X server.. is there a limit then to have 20 LAN users run everything remotely? (like firefox and office) what are the limitations?
[05:45] <histo> linden940: install the restricted drivers as thiebaude suggested
[05:45] <Flannel> datz: Oh, wait.  hah, wrong question, sorry.
[05:45] <Billiard> sam2: its very easy in ubuntu, there will be a popup that 3rd party drivers are availiable
[05:45] <thiebaude> linden940, then let ubuntu search for the drivers and pick the recommended one
[05:45] <datz> Flannel, yea, don't want kubuntu. :)
[05:45] <linden940> its nvidia accelerated graphics driver ver 180
[05:45] <datz> np
[05:45] <Flannel> datz: You're looking for backports?  Yeah, ok, what are some of your other deb https://[url] stuff stuff URLs?  archive.ubuntu.com?  cc.archive.ubuntu.com?
[05:45] <linden940> i did that
[05:45] <linden940> it wont work
[05:45] <thiebaude> linden940, i used 180 in 9.04 but now 185 in 9.10
[05:46] <histo> epaphus: you would be limited by the resources on the server ex: if it can't handle running 20 instances of firefox locally its not going to with forwarding X
[05:46] <linden940> i have the recommended one on
[05:46] <sam2> wow.... thanks Billiard..... hopin to have a nice time with ububtu.... will start right away
[05:46] <thiebaude> linden940, what did it say?
[05:46] <BoxMagnet> lilzeus-web, open a pm with me
[05:46] <BoxMagnet> i got an idea for you
[05:46] <sam2> thanks all for your support
[05:46] <epaphus> histo, firefox would run in the remote server.. right?
[05:46] <thiebaude> linden940, gksudo nvidia-settings
[05:46] <linden940> well i am useing the 180
[05:46] <linden940> and it wont work
[05:46] <datz> Flannel: http://pastebin.com/m3460f5a3
[05:46] <histo> epaphus: yeah then it would just forward X over ssh
[05:46] <epaphus> histo, what actually needs installed in the local machine for this?
[05:47] <thiebaude> linden940, can you do that in a terminal?
[05:47] <blenderpc> Question: Best App for managing music and working with Ipod
[05:47] <Flannel> datz: Add this: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:47] <histo> epaphus: you'll still need atleast a minimal X server on the local machine then you could forward the apps
[05:47] <histo> epaphus: google X forwarding
[05:47] <Flannel> datz: then save, update, install subversion, and then comment that line out.
[05:48] <histo> epaphus: someone else may know a more modern way like a thin client if thats what you are trying to do?
[05:48] <datz> Flannel, ok thanks
[05:48] <thiebaude> linden940, do you have nvidia-settings?
[05:48] <linden940> yea
[05:48] <linden940> its up
[05:49] <thiebaude> linden940, choose you resolution , hit apply and then save to X configuration
[05:49] <datz> Flannel, great, thanks working. :)
[05:49] <linden940> i have done the save to x configuration and it still wont work
[05:49] <epaphus> histo, right.. but thin clients would be based on this... wouldnt it?
[05:49] <Roasted> question - if I CD into a directory in terminal that I own, why can't I run chmod 775 *.* for all files within the directory? I know I could run chmod -R 775 /media/storage, but if I want /media/storage to have 770, and all contents inside to have 775, that means I have to run chmod -R 775 /media/storage, then chmod 770 /media/storage to get the perms I want. Why cant I run it with *.* in a directory?
[05:49] <linden940> when i reboot its back 2 bein small
[05:49] <thiebaude> linden940, it then save to xorg.conf
[05:49] <linden940> i did that
[05:49] <thiebaude> linden940, your doing something wrong
[05:49] <linden940> let me reboot...let me see if it works now..
[05:49] <thiebaude> ok
[05:50] <mb_again_> roasted: are you trying to change permissions on read only media?
[05:50] <linden940> i have been doing this for like 5+hrs
[05:50] <Billiard> Roasted: you can whats the error?
[05:50] <thiebaude> linden940, wow, too long, nvidia is great with ubuntu
[05:50] <histo> epaphus: no looks liek the way is with LTSP search on help.ubuntu.com for ltsp i'm reading about it now it sounds like what you want.
[05:50] <Roasted> mb_again - No. I just like to have certain permissions on the mount point, and certain permissions on all files inside.
[05:50] <Roasted> billiard - it just says no file or directory.
[05:50] <linden940> lol its not working good 4 me
[05:50] <linden940> ok i will be back in a sec
[05:50] <wizzo50> Hi, is there a program to run to save your data here on Ubuntu as a backup and then reinstall on another computer for Windows 7?
[05:50] <thiebaude> ok
[05:50] <Billiard> Roasted:  are your files in the form *.*
[05:50] <Roasted> billiard - I'm CD'd into the directory, so when I run chmod 775 *.* I figured it would just apply to all contents of the folder.
[05:50] <ZykoticK9> Roasted, don't use "*.*" in unix!  that would mean ONLY files with an extension!  just use * for everything
[05:50] <Roasted> Billiard - I was assuming *.* was the wildcard, including ALL files.
[05:51] <Billiard> Roasted:  * is all file
[05:51] <Roasted> zykotick9 - so if I run chmod  775 * wi thin /media/storage, all files within storage would get 775 perms?
[05:51] <Roasted> damnit I need to stay away from windows :P I use *.* a lot in windows.
[05:51] <histo> epaphus: with LTSP the clients don't need any local storage
[05:51] <ZykoticK9> Roasted, not sure about your specific problem just pointing out the *.* problem
[05:51] <datz> Flannel, lol...still too old. :P
[05:52] <Roasted> zykotick9 - worked with chmod 775 *
[05:52] <Roasted> billiard, mb_again, zykotick9 - thanks!
[05:52] <datz> Flannel, install manually?
[05:52] <Billiard> np
[05:53] <jesse> how can i install vmware surver?
[05:53] <wizzo50> Is there a program to run to save your data here on Ubuntu as a backup and then reinstall on another computer for Windows 7?
[05:54] <epaphus> histo, right..i think thats about the entire difference.. or does the kernel actually load in the RAM of the client vrs the X frowarding loads EVERYTHING from network.. right?
[05:54] <Guest49024> how can i install VMware server?
[05:54] <linden940> same damm thing
[05:54] <linden940> i had the small screen again
[05:55] <Flannel> datz: Still too old?  What version of subversion are you dealing with on the server?
[05:55] <thiebaude> linden940, and you said 180 drivers are installed
[05:55] <linden940> yes they r
[05:55] <Guest49024> i have no ideo...
[05:55] <Guest49024> idea
[05:55] <datz> Flannel, just asked someone to see if they could check out the same project, they could with 1.4.2
[05:55] <thiebaude> linden940, and you did gksudo nvidia-settings
[05:55] <wizzo50> How can I backup my data on here to save when I reinstall ubuntu with Windows?
[05:55] <datz> Flannel, must be some other problem
[05:55] <linden940> yes
[05:56] <Flannel> datz: You're trying to read a directory that's already under version control?
[05:56] <histo> epaphus: Both can accomplish the same thing with X forwarding you will need a X environment on the clients. With LTSP you don't need anything on the clients other than a boot disk to connect tot he LTSP server
[05:56] <Guest49024> how can i install vmware server?
[05:56] <Flannel> datz: As in, someone checked it out, and now you're trying to use it from the disk?
[05:56] <thiebaude> linden940, i dont know
[05:56] <linden940> yea...thats y i have been doing this for hrs now
[05:56] <linden940> lol
[05:56] <mb_again_> !vmware
[05:56] <Guest49024> how can i install vm-ware server?
[05:56] <epaphus> histo, right.. but then again.. the part iam interested is that the kernel gets loaded in the RAM entirely.. would this be right?
[05:56] <histo> wizzo50: do you have somewhere to put your data? like an extra drive or thumb drive etc..?
[05:56] <thiebaude> linden940, you on 9.04?
[05:57] <datz> Flannel, they were able to check out the same source with an older client
[05:57] <Guest49024> what ,an../
[05:57] <ZykoticK9> linden940, in a terminal run "gksudo nvidia-settings" make your changes - then click the save to xorg button -- reboot and it will be saved :)
[05:57] <linden940> yea
[05:57] <Flannel> datz: right, what are you trying to do?
[05:57] <wizzo50> Yea
[05:57] <datz> Flannel "svn update sharelin"
[05:57] <thiebaude> ZykoticK9, he did
[05:57] <linden940> zyk i have done just that a sec again
[05:57] <Ma5t3rw1tt> Hey everyone
[05:57] <wizzo50> histo: yes
[05:57] <histo> epaphus: I don't think LTSP is forwarding the kernel to ram. Its running on the server I believe. But don't quote me i've never used it.
[05:57] <linden940> i have done that like 100times
[05:57] <histo> wizzo50: then just copy the files from your /home/wizzo50 and that will be everything.
[05:57] <Flannel> datz: Try checking out to a new folder
[05:57] <datz> Flannel: svn: This client is too old to work with working copy 'sharelin'.
[05:58] <thiebaude> !envy
[05:58] <datz> yea, I tried updating another project, that worked..
[05:58] <wizzo50> histo: ok
[05:58] <wizzo50> histo: thanks
[05:58] <linden940> this the "preview" of the code being saved
[05:58] <linden940> Section "Monitor"
[05:58] <linden940>     Identifier     "Monitor0"
[05:58] <linden940>     VendorName     "Unknown"
[05:58] <linden940>     ModelName      "LPL"
[05:58] <linden940>     HorizSync       30.0 - 75.0
[05:58] <FloodBot1> linden940: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:59] <linden940> so...what do u think?
[05:59] <histo> epaphus: the easiest way to explain it is its like terminal services
[06:00] <neoneddy> Any Samba Ninjas present ?
[06:01] <datz> Flannel, yea, just rm dir and checking out fresh
[06:01] <epaphus> histo, thank you.. this is just what i need and ive been searching for weeks
[06:02] <histo> epaphus: looks like they are working to make it easier to set up with each release
[06:02] <epaphus> i hope its stable though :)
[06:02] <thiebaude> linden940, i'am puzzled about your problem and have no other options to try
[06:02] <dotjsd> hello channel
[06:03] <linden940> thanks
[06:03] <c0l2e> how can I disable Switch User when I log-out ??
[06:03] <thiebaude> linden940, np
[06:03] <linden940> do u think the 9.10 would fix it?
[06:03] <thiebaude> linden940, i dont know
[06:03] <eltew> Does anyone know how I can map my windows key to open up the Panel menu?  I'm unable to do it unless I use it in combination with another key.
[06:03] <thiebaude> linden940, you'll have the 185 drivers in 9.10
[06:04] <linden940> yea
[06:04] <thiebaude> instead of 180
[06:04] <linden940> is there a ez way 2 update 2 9.10 now?
[06:04] <linden940> *with out doing the iso thing*
[06:04] <thiebaude> linden940, update-manager -d
[06:04] <histo> epaphus: there saying it is
[06:04] <linden940> ty
[06:05] <thiebaude> np
[06:05] <thiebaude> linden940, burning the alternate cd didn't take long for me at all
[06:05] <linden940> upgradeing now
[06:05] <thiebaude> ok
[06:05] <linden940> hope that fixs it
[06:06] <thiebaude> linden940, good luck with it
[06:06] <linden940> thiebaude are u useing amd or intel?
[06:06] <thiebaude> linden940, amd dual core opteron 165
[06:06] <thiebaude> yea, amd
[06:06] <linden940> then u r the same as me
[06:06] <thiebaude> it should work for you
[06:06] <linden940> hmmm i wounder y it dos not work 4 me but it dos 4 u
[06:07] <thiebaude> linden940, i had no problems at all, and i did a fresh install
[06:07] <linden940> well i went from the 8.something 2 this 9.04
[06:07] <linden940> maybe that was part of it?
[06:08] <thiebaude> linden940, i burned ti alternate cd because it has less then 700 mb
[06:08] <linden940> *i had the 8.10 cd...just used that when my pc crashed with windows
[06:08] <thiebaude> the
[06:08] <bobbob1016> I'm trying to recreate a mdadm array on a different PC, and it says "device or resource busy" on each drive, and it can't create it because of that, any ideas?
[06:08] <linden940> hmm
[06:09]  * raid0 back
[06:09] <linden940> wb
[06:10] <linden940> so how is the 9.10?
[06:10] <thiebaude> linden940, its nice
[06:10] <thiebaude> and wobbly windows,lol
[06:10] <linden940> lol
[06:10] <linden940> i like that
[06:10] <linden940> it looks cool an dif
[06:11] <Degot> Hi, all. I have several folders and i want to give several users read/write access to these folders. how can i make this?
[06:11]  * thiebaude goes away
[06:12] <SeaPhor> Degot, are these folders in 1 parent directory?
[06:13] <Degot> SeaPhor, yes, but there are also another folders... problem not in structure....
[06:14] <accid> hmm
[06:14] <accid> im installing ubuntu via virtual pc, when i get to the main screen it does not lalow me to click enter to select INSTALL UBUNTU
[06:14] <Billiard> Degot: change the group of the directories give group rw permissions on the dir, add users to the group
[06:15] <Billiard> accid: you clicked on the virtual pc window to capture the keyboard?
[06:15] <ramkey> is this the place for newbs to ask questions?
[06:16] <Degot> SeaPhor, problem is... if i create group with r/w access and will make chown grpname:grpname then chmod g+w folder.... then, if one of user will create file in this folder, will be able others to change/delete this file ?
[06:16] <Billiard> Degot: not if you set the sticky bit
[06:16] <SeaPhor> Degot, then you create a group, make these users members of that group, chown that parent dir with -R user:newgroup aand then chmod  it with the rights u choose,,, 770 or whatever,,,,
[06:16] <ramkey> i got a question... how do I as the primary admin user write a text file to root/etc/udev?
[06:17] <Degot> Billiard: can you give me info about stricky bit?   link or something
[06:17] <SeaPhor> Degot, yes
[06:17] <Billiard> Degot: wiki: chmod +t dir   then only the dir owner, root, or file owner can delete
[06:17] <infid_> degot sticky bit is mostly for directories, so other users can't rm stuff if they dont own it
[06:17] <ramkey> anyone know how to write a text file to the root?
[06:17] <infid_> degot like how the /tmp behaves
[06:18] <navap> ramkey: `sudo touch file`
[06:19] <Degot> All , thank you...i`ll read wiki about this ))
[06:19] <ramkey> navap, file being my file name?
[06:19] <navap> Yes, if you want to edit it you could do `sudo nano file` instead.
[06:21] <ramkey> Could not save the file /etc/udev/rules.d/60-happuage-pvr2usb.rules.
[06:21] <ramkey> arghhh
[06:21] <tehbaut> in gedit, the drag n' drop scrolling is a bit too sensitive for my tastes
[06:22] <tehbaut> is it possible to customize the sensitivity on that?
[06:25] <Billiard> ramkey: what command did you use
[06:25] <ramkey> sudo touch
[06:25] <Billiard> ramkey: then what
[06:25] <ramkey> i have a simple udev file i want to place so my usb tv card will work in mythtv
[06:25] <ramkey> i already have the text file written and saved on desktop of admin user
[06:26] <ramkey> i can not however, get it to save in the root/etc/udev directory
[06:26] <Billiard> ramkey: you can just move it into the rules.d directory
[06:26] <ramkey> it won't let me
[06:26] <ramkey> and i don't know why
[06:26] <linden940> damm i been up a long time
[06:26] <Billiard> use sudo
[06:29] <ramkey> thanks billaird
[06:29] <ramkey> Billiard
[06:32] <settntrenz> I've got ubuntu running on my ps3 but cannot get sound to work. I'm using HDMI out of ps3 into a yamaha receiver. Sound works out of native ps3. Please see some output http://pastebin.com/d1b912f50 I've tried using asoundconf to select both PS3 and Pulse and messed with the volume control applet and alsamixer to make sure its not muted
[06:32] <settntrenz> Any idea's what to try next?
[06:34] <matyd> my kids got to my desktop today and somehow got the system tray widget spanned out across the whole panel at the bottom of the screen and i can not for the life of me figure out how to resize it down. as it stands right now, i can see any apps i have open because that is taking up the whole panel
[06:34] <matyd> any advice?
[06:34] <Billiard> ramkey: np
[06:34] <Stumpie> I want to build a mini ITX system for my dad, so he can watch youtube, and recive and send his email from his television. is Ubuntu compatible with this kind of graphics card and motherboard?
[06:34] <Stumpie> http://www.ewiz.com/desc.php?name=MB-ION-A-U
[06:34] <matyd> running kubuntu btw
[06:37] <ramkey> where is the better location to put firmware drivers in Ubuntu? /lib/firmware ?
[06:37] <settntrenz> Stumpie: I see the board has HDMI. You may find yourself in a similar debacle as I am right now with ps3 (no sound out of HDMI)
[06:37] <Stumpie> thankyou settntrenz  :)
[06:38] <xenoterracide> does ubuntu or canonical have any kind of page for people who are thinking of upgrading? why it's different? why it's better than the alternatives?
[06:38] <tma> how can i run a check disk on a memory stick formated with fat32?
[06:39] <Stumpie> tma, i think QTparted does scans for fat 16 and fat32
[06:39] <tma> Stumpie,  qtparted?
[06:40] <Stumpie> !qtparted
[06:40] <Stumpie> bummer :(
[06:40] <navap> !partitionmanager
[06:40] <tma> Stumpie, oh, i'm on gnome ... gparted does it too, but i think it doesnt work too god with fat32 partitions
[06:40] <navap> !PartitionManager
[06:42] <tma> Stumpie, was thinking of something like dosfsck
[06:42] <Stumpie> chkdsk
[06:42] <Stumpie> sorry, that probably does not work either
[06:42] <DigitalKiwi> lol eeebuntu is moving to debian? epic
[06:42] <ramkey> hey, supernewb question ... is there a shortcut kkey to get to terminal?
[06:43] <tma> Stumpie, well .... thx anyway
[06:43] <Stumpie> just wait, someone else might know
[06:44] <kupad> fsck
[06:46] <matyd> none of the applications i'm running is showing up in my panel
[06:47] <Rask> Hey guys... easy question about partitioning.  :)  Any advantage to putting the swap partition in front of the root partition, or should one do it the other way round?
[06:48] <navap> Preferably I think they should be on different drives. If they're on the same drive it shouldn't matter which is before the other.
[06:49] <Rask> Well, let me fill in some more details... I'm trying to do software RAID 1.
[06:49] <Rask> Do both drives need a swap partition, or how does that work?
[06:50] <Flannel> Rask: swap is just used instead of RAM, so you only need one
[06:50] <Flannel> Rask: Oh
[06:51] <Flannel> Rask: yeah, I believe both drives need one, because they're mirrored.  But you should have twice the swap?  They certainly don't need to be backed up.  I'm going to back out of this conversation now, since I have no idea what I'm talking about.
[06:52] <Stumpie> !mini ITX
[06:52] <Rask> Hm.  I've never gone through this process before, perhaps I basically pretend like my primary drive is my only drive, then set the second one up to mirror it...
[06:52] <navap> Raiding the swap doesn't make sense to me either, at least not in a raid 1. If it were a raid 5 or something like that then it might make sense. I'm not sure though.
[06:53] <francispereira_> .
[06:53] <jony123> How to i reload fonts
[06:53] <jony123> ?
[06:55] <matt___> i am needing help with the panel in my gui, kids got to it today while i was at work and now i can't see the applications i'm running on it and the widgets take up the whole panel.
[06:55] <matt___> how can i fix this in kubuntu?
[06:55]  * matt___ is a newb 
[06:55] <Bluey> matt___: I know how to fix gnome but not kde - sorry
[06:55] <ashutosh> hi any cvs browsing utility in ubuntu?
[06:55] <matt___> so i tried a restart and now identd isnt working heh
[06:56] <matt___> thnx anyway bluey
[06:56] <Bluey> matt___: I've had problems with identd - I solved it by going to nullident
[06:57] <matt___> i'll install that thnx bluey
[06:57] <anoe> hi all, how are u doing
[06:57] <Bluey> matt___: hang on I've a link on how to do it..
[06:57] <matt___> k
[06:57] <Bluey> matt___: try this:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=115
[06:58] <Stumpie> anyone know of a company making mini-itx systems with Ubuntu on them?
[06:58] <KruyKaze> hi ubuntuers! is it safe to buy any bleutooth dongle or will i run into compatibility issues?
[06:58] <Stumpie> depends on the dongle KruyKaze
[06:58] <Stumpie> what brand, and model?
[06:58] <KruyKaze> is there a list of compatible dongles?
[06:58] <matt___> k will give it a look bluey
[06:59] <Stumpie> !comaptible list
[06:59] <KruyKaze> http://www.dinodirect.com/Small-USB-2-0-Bluetooth-Dongle-Adapter-for-PC-Notebook-Laptop-Grey.html
[06:59] <Rask> Stumpie:  logicsupply.com might.
[06:59] <Stumpie> thanks rask :D
[06:59] <Bluey> !hcl | stumpie
[06:59] <Rask> http://www.logicsupply.com/categories/ubuntu_linux_systems  In fact, they do.  :O
[06:59] <settntrenz> KruyKaze: I bought a rocketfish dongle and it worked
[07:00] <KruyKaze> i was looking for the smallest possible
[07:00] <settntrenz> KruyKaze: its super small usb dongle
[07:00] <KruyKaze> like on the link i posted
[07:00] <Rask> Stumpie:  Logic Supply, in my experience, has perhaps not quite the lowest prices ever, but they have excellent, knowledgable support
[07:00] <settntrenz> KruyKaze: so small its a pain to remove actually
[07:00] <KruyKaze> lol
[07:00] <KruyKaze> that's good
[07:00] <settntrenz> KruyKaze: its almost flush when installed
[07:00] <Rask> Stumpie:  Had a DC board fail in a case probably six months after I bought it originally, they shipped a replacement out to me no charge
[07:00] <KruyKaze> rocket fish?
[07:01] <Bluey> KruyKaze: not recommended to folks with arthritis..
[07:01] <settntrenz> yeah, let me see if I can find link
[07:01] <KruyKaze> :D thanks
[07:01] <Stumpie> awesome rask, i want to make a settop box for my dad to watch internet TV, and get email
[07:01] <settntrenz> http://www.rocketfishproducts.com/p-125-rocketfish-micro-bluetooth-21-edr-usb-adapter.aspx
[07:01] <Stumpie> would be nice with a hard disk and DVD burner too :D
[07:01] <anoe> got a question. I am using an asus EEE 901 notebook with ubuntu studio (last version) over ubuntu 9.04. My lcd screen is 1024x600. My problem is, ardour GTK2 uses windows bigger than my resolution size. I've tried to include a virtual 1280 1024 and modes "1024x600" "1200x1024" in xorg.conf, ad xrandr -q list 1200x1024 as a correcto mode, but when using xrandr -s 1200x1024 it says not  available mode. I would like to have a virtual s
[07:01] <anoe> creenn bigger than my real screen, and then moving around with the mouse (like old liinux distros)
[07:02] <KruyKaze> awesome
[07:02] <KruyKaze> how much is it?
[07:02] <settntrenz> anoe: I know its possible (my co-worker has that on his eee) but thats all the help I'll be since I really dislike that mode I've never configured
[07:03] <settntrenz> KruyKaze: Bestbuy had it for like twenty something bucks
[07:03] <settntrenz> KruyKaze: it was in the cell phone section
[07:03] <Crayboff> alright i've got a shell account in another timezone, what's the command to change it to EST?
[07:03] <KruyKaze> is 2.0 good enough for a headset?
[07:04] <Bluey> Crayboff: technically we are still on daylight saving time till nov 1
[07:04] <settntrenz> KruyKaze: not sure, used mine for kb/mouse
[07:05] <Crayboff> Bluey: uhh what?
[07:06] <settntrenz> KruyKaze: USB 2 should be fast enough for even ulaw voice convos
[07:06] <KruyKaze> sweet thanks alot
[07:06] <tstebut> ~pastebin
[07:07] <settntrenz> so, who knows how to make my ps3 HDMI audio work? no sound for my home theatre system kind of defeats the purpose.
[07:07] <Bluey> settntrenz: we're a ubuntu help channel (hence #ubuntu) maybe try --- #ps3 ?
[07:08] <settntrenz> Bluey: joe@ps3buntu:~$ uname -a
[07:08] <settntrenz> Linux ps3buntu 2.6.28-6-powerpc64-smp #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 09:59:41 UTC 2009 ppc64 GNU/Linux
[07:08] <Bluey> settntrenz: you want to change the host name?
[07:09] <settntrenz> Bluey: no. I want my audio to work
[07:09] <Flannel> settntrenz: try #ubuntu-ps3
[07:09] <settntrenz> Flannel: nice! thanks I was wondering if there was a dedicated channel
[07:09] <tstebut> Hello
[07:09] <cew> kihgjhjhjhujj
[07:09] <tstebut> Has anybody already installed an oracle database here ?
[07:10] <tstebut> (I mean on ubuntu)
[07:10] <settntrenz> Flannel: 5 ppl in there :( ::hoping for quality over quantity::
[07:11]  * Bluey doesn't know anyone that has done oracle - except for maybe the seti folks
[07:11] <naruto> hi
[07:11] <settntrenz> tstebut: Sorry can't help. I've only installed 10g Express on CentOS and that was via RPM
[07:13] <tstebut> So is there a way to install RPM packages ??
[07:13] <Bluey> tstebut: on ubuntu -- yes
[07:13] <Bluey> tstebut: i don't honestly remember what I did though.....
[07:13] <tstebut> hah
[07:13] <n8tuser> alien
[07:13] <fantomas> Hi. How to change parameters of connection when connecting using "Connect to server"? For example, I want to change mask, uid, etc when mouting via SSH or FTP
[07:13] <Bluey> n8tuser: tht's it!
[07:13] <tstebut> what is alien
[07:14] <Bluey> !alien
[07:14] <BellinXFelon> how can i prevent attacks on my computer by hackers and unwanted people
[07:14] <Bluey> tstebut: I remember I had to do that with the light scribe package iirc
[07:15] <darthanubis> BellinXFelon, could you be more vague?
[07:15] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: edit hosts.deny to deny all entries
[07:15] <tstebut> hmmmm
[07:15] <duckx0r> i have ubuntu netbook remix installed on one of my netbooks and it worked fine for a while, but now for some reason it doesn't load the panel upon startup or the window manager (i.e. windows don't have any decorations and I can't move, resize, etc). How can I fix this?
[07:15] <darthanubis> BellinXFelon, turn it off
[07:15] <BellinXFelon> darthanubis : specifically, how can I enable my firewall
[07:15] <darthanubis> unhook from the web and lock in closet
[07:16] <histo> !firewall | BellinXFelon
[07:16] <darthanubis> !firewall | BellinXFelon
[07:16] <phantomcircuit> the libtorrent-rasterbar-dev package is broken
[07:16] <phantomcircuit> http://pastebin.com/m2c3dd094
[07:18] <Bluey> "My!  People come and go so quickly here."
[07:19] <alabd> Good day everyone , What are best    mental games for ubuntu ?
[07:19] <darthanubis> !best
[07:19] <nimrod> cant print from acroread
[07:20] <Bluey> nimrod: just acroread?  have you tried other apps?
[07:21] <TheKro> every time I "save and quit" firefox, it seems to quit cleanly, but outputs "segmentation fault".  any idea on how i can trace what's causing that?
[07:22] <Bluey> TheKro: what version?
[07:22] <TheKro> Bluey: 3.0.14
[07:22] <Bluey> TheKro: you might want to upgrade to ff 3.5
[07:22] <nimrod> yep!i can print from document viewer
[07:23] <Bluey> nimrod:  kewl!
[07:23] <nimrod> thanks!
[07:23] <TheKro> Bluey: i'm still on jaunty, with recommended package versions.  last time I tried 3.5 it was a disaster.
[07:23] <darthanubis> lol 3.5 a disaster?
[07:23] <darthanubis> that is just not believable
[07:24] <Bluey> TheKro: :-/ I've had some problems with 3.5 - but not a disaster...
[07:24] <nimrod> will try that.was just wondering if i had to install something for it to print,or maybe it was just my printer.
[07:24] <Bluey> nimrod:  I use document viewer and I've had no problems with it...
[07:25] <nimrod> me too
[07:25] <TheKro> i couldn't exit it at all without killing the process
[07:25] <Bluey> nimrod: and I've a ghetto printer....
[07:25] <Bluey> TheKro: why are you using an older version of ubuntu?
[07:26] <TheKro> older? karmic isn't released yet, AFAIK
[07:27] <nimrod> ghetto printer?
[07:27] <nimrod> lol
[07:27] <Bluey> TheKro: I don't know names just version numbers --
[07:27] <TheKro> well, i've got 9.04
[07:27] <TheKro> which is the "current" version, to my knowledge
[07:27] <Bluey> nimrod:  an hp psc-1315 - about 7 years old now...
[07:28] <BellinXFelon> what else can i do to secure my computer besides activate my firewall?
[07:28] <Bluey> TheKro: okay my bad
[07:28] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: lock down hosts.deny --
[07:28] <BellinXFelon> bluey : how do i do that
[07:28] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : how do I do that
[07:29] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: I have this line in my hosts.deny --
[07:29] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: ALL	:	ALL EXCEPT LOCA
[07:29] <Bluey> oops  ALL	:	ALL EXCEPT LOCAL
[07:29] <SpiceMan> BellinXFelon: man hosts_access
[07:29] <nimrod> was not even in the IT..far.
[07:29] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : I am new to linux, how can i open the file to edit
[07:30] <SpiceMan> BellinXFelon: you want to read the manual before editing stuff
[07:30] <SpiceMan> BellinXFelon: or you're going to need to reinstall linux over and over :P
[07:30] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: first make a backup copy of the file -- sudo cp /etc/hosts.deny hosts.deny.org (or something you will remember)
[07:31] <histo> Anyway to see if the installer is doing anything?  Its sitting at "Setting up parittioner" Scanning disks 47% just stuck there
[07:31] <jasonmchristos> hello, would someone please tell me why autocomplete of email addreses is not working in ubuntu jaunty under evolution?
[07:31] <maco> jasonmchristos: do you have it enabled for your address books? (i havent used evo in almost a year so i dont know where that setting is anymore, sorry)
[07:32] <Bluey> jasonmchristos: sorry I use thunderbird - don't know...
[07:32] <jasonmchristos> maco: yes it is enabled marked
[07:32] <jasonmchristos> maco: do you use thunderbird aswell?
[07:32] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : ok
[07:32] <maco> jasonmchristos: no, i use kmail
[07:33] <maco> jasonmchristos: well really, all of kontact... kmail, kaddressbook, korganizer...
[07:33] <jasonmchristos> i se
[07:33] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: next gksudo /etc/hosts.deny then add that line -- ALL	:	ALL EXCEPT LOCAL
[07:33] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: that's easier then using nano --
[07:33] <jasonmchristos> does anyone know why ubuntu comes default with evolution instead of tbird
[07:33] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : done
[07:34] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: save and exit
[07:34] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : how do I save
[07:34] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : restart?
[07:34] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: NO
[07:34] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: just file and save
[07:34] <Stumpie> I was about to pay for a usenet account, then I realized, perhaps I could set up a usenet server, and log in for free with ubuntu? Can I make a Usenet server? TIA
[07:35] <wrapster> where will the 64bit libs be present? /usr/lib/amd64 ?
[07:35] <wrapster> is it the only location or anywhere else ?
[07:35] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: think NOTEPAD
[07:35] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : thank you
[07:36] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : it had me install save
[07:36] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: you control who access your machine through hosts.allow
[07:36] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: what?
[07:36] <fantomas> How to cofigure Nautilus and specifically its Connect to server feature?
[07:36] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: it's just like notepad in windows - file/save
[07:36] <spaghetti> Stumpie: Yes, you can make what you call a "Usenet server"
[07:36] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : ALL : ALL EXCEPT LOCAL
[07:36] <BellinXFelon> oops
[07:37] <BellinXFelon> The program 'save' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[07:37] <BellinXFelon> sudo apt-get install atfs
[07:37] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: you put that in the file yes?
[07:37] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : yes
[07:37] <fufu> Q: the install updates screen that comes up when OS starts.. why is it that there are so many updates all the time? if i update today.. i know im going to get more tomorrow. and some of those files are 5mb 8mb.. I dont even have a lot of programs on my computer..so whats up with the updates?
[07:37] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : in terminal
[07:37] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: i've never heard of atfs
[07:37] <Bluey> BellinXFelon: private message ok?
[07:37] <BellinXFelon> Bluey : yea sure
[07:38] <Billiard> fufu: are you using the beta?
[07:38] <fufu> are those updates legit?
[07:38] <fufu> i dont know
[07:38] <fufu> how do i check
[07:38] <Rebelstar> hello ppl, i need some help. i installed ubuntu 9.04..everything was working fine, i wanted root access, so i modified some file based on a suggestion in some forum and i restarted the system to find that the audio is not working. what can i do ?
[07:38] <fufu>  Ubuntu 9.04
[07:38] <fufu>                 - the Jaunty Jackalope - released in April 2009.
[07:38] <fufu> 				
[07:38] <fufu> thats what i have...
[07:39] <Billiard> fufu: thats the latest release, you get updates when programs are updated is thats just how it is
[07:40] <astrid> Hello, I need a bit of help with fluxbox startup scripting
[07:40] <fufu> how much updates do you get though? I understand updates but sometimes I wander if the programs are legit.. because some of the files are so big
[07:40] <Angel-SL> Hey.
[07:40] <Rebelstar> hello ppl, i need some help. i installed ubuntu 9.04..everything was working fine, i wanted root access, so i modified some file based on a suggestion in some forum and i restarted the system to find that the audio is not working. what can i do ?
[07:40] <Billiard> Rebelstar: change taht file back
[07:41] <fufu> And these updates have names that no-one can understand..
[07:41] <Rebelstar> i did that
[07:41] <Billiard> Rebelstar: what file
[07:41] <Rebelstar> but still it is not working
[07:41] <Angel-SL> http://paste.ubuntu.com/297323/ How to fix?
[07:41] <Billiard> fufu: names like what?
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: you dont NEED root access, you have sudoi and gksudo. Did you not read those on your forums too?
[07:41] <Angel-SL> Rebelstar: sudo passwd
[07:41] <Angel-SL> set the password
[07:41] <Angel-SL> and su up.
[07:41] <Angel-SL> :|
[07:41] <FloodBot1> Angel-SL: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:41] <Rebelstar> it was not in this forum
[07:41] <Rebelstar> it was a blog
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> !root | Rebelstar
[07:41] <fufu> lib files
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: i'd reinstall and stay off root
[07:42] <Rebelstar> is there no other way
[07:42] <fufu> Billiard: ok check this out. I open my update manager and there is 115MB of checked updates..
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> if you can't undo what you did and its a fresh install i'd say cut your losses
[07:43] <fufu> How is that normal?
[07:43] <Billiard> Rebelstar: what file did you change that made you lose audio
[07:43] <Billiard> fufu: what are the updates for?
[07:44] <fufu> The heading of the updates is "important security updates"
[07:44] <Rebelstar> i did this
[07:44] <Rebelstar>      	 		 			Login as Root on Ubuntu 9.04 			August 12, 2009 in LInux,  Ubuntu | Tags: access root, login as root, login ubuntu, root, root access, root login ubuntu, root ubuntu			 		 		 			Basically in all linux OS we can access root for login. But in ubuntu by default that option is not enabled. if you want to have root login then you have to do some hack on ubuntu OS   Just follow the below step for login as root. And do everything as you want   . S
[07:44] <Rebelstar> sorry
[07:44] <naruto> ghina
[07:44] <fufu> a lot of the files start with lib*
[07:44] <Angel-SL> http://paste.ubuntu.com/297323/ How to fix?
[07:44] <Guest11562> dd
[07:45] <Billiard> Rebelstar: what file did you change
[07:45] <ElijahCMenifee> fufu, Depends on what all is being updated the used diskspace afterwards can either go up or down based on the size difference of the new packages, you make have to download 200meg but after appling the removal of the old versions may gain you a net 10meg of additional space.
[07:45] <Rebelstar>  sudo gedit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[07:45] <Rebelstar> gdm.conf
[07:45] <astrid> I tried the #fluxbox but nobody is there. I added to the startup script in .fluxbox a few lines to restart alsa and set the volumes to unmute, but it doesn't seem to have any effect.
[07:45] <Rebelstar> set  AllowRoot=false to true
[07:46] <ElijahCMenifee> Rebelstar, please use pastbin or provide link to url
[07:46] <JabberWalkie> Rebelstar: enabling the root user is not supported on this channel
[07:46] <Rebelstar> http://saeed05.wordpress.com/2009/08/12/login-as-root-on-ubuntu-9-04/
[07:46] <Rebelstar> here it is
[07:46] <Billiard> Rebelstar: that shouldnt affect audio
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: have you noticed how all ubuntu guides contain the word sudo ?
[07:46] <Rebelstar> yes
[07:46] <Billiard> Rebelstar: i wouldnt log in as root though
[07:46] <Rebelstar> after this istarted using sudo
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: do you know what that is?
[07:46] <astrid> Rebelstar: Have you noticed that everyone is telling you not to log in as root? Wow. It's quite incredible.
[07:46] <Rebelstar> to get ownership
[07:47] <Billiard> Rebelstar: did you change something while logged in as root
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: its the entire reason you never need root, the account is actually disabled by default
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: sudo gives you the equivelant power of root without needing the account
[07:47] <ramkey> anyone know how to fix the ATi HD4650 driver problem?
[07:47] <Rebelstar> sorry i dint know that wheni changed it for the first time
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: so you now never need root
[07:47] <Rebelstar> sudo should be fine now
[07:48] <Angel-SL> Erm, anyone? > http://paste.ubuntu.com/297323/ how to fix?
[07:48] <Rebelstar> but audio is the problem..i need it back
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: it is and always will be but you will never need to log in as root, o even touch the account
[07:48] <Rebelstar> :(
[07:48] <ElijahCMenifee> Well ActionParsnip I would never say never, I do have a legitamate reason for root login(never no when ldap is going to go down with no actaul local users...)
[07:48] <Billiard> Rebelstar: what did you change while logged in as root?
[07:48] <fufu> Ok it shows 80MB of "Important security Updates" i will install all of them and restart my comp..i will see if it gives me more "Security updates"
[07:49] <Rebelstar> well infact i could not login as root after following that step,,,so i restared
[07:49] <Rebelstar> the system
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: if you run: sudo lshw -C sound
[07:49] <Rebelstar> and audio was out
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: will tell you the sound chip, you can then set it up as if it never worked
[07:49] <fufu> libicu38, libglib2.0-0 libglib2.0-data.. hows  a regular user suppose to understand that..
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> ElijahCMenifee: i'd say, use sudo -s     gives a root shell, there is no need for root
[07:50] <Rebelstar> i got this
[07:50] <Rebelstar> sudo lshw -C sound
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: use a pastebin
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[07:50] <Rebelstar>  description: Audio device
[07:50] <Rebelstar>        product: 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
[07:50] <Rebelstar>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[07:50] <Rebelstar>        physical id: 1b
[07:50] <Rebelstar>        bus info: pci@0000:00:1b.0
[07:50] <Rebelstar>        version: 03
[07:50] <FloodBot1> Rebelstar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:50] <ElijahCMenifee> ActionParsnip, not if there is no local user, and user credentials are on the LDAP server that just when belly up, its either root or hope you hace live-Cd handy...
[07:51] <ramkey> did ATI/AMD stop support of linux drivers?
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> ElijahCMenifee: true but very specific. I'd at least have 1 user on each system
[07:51] <ramkey> did ati/amd stop supporting linux drivers?
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: i told you to use a pastebin
[07:52] <ElijahCMenifee> ActionParsnip, I do have one user on every system (root ;0) but I have been sysadmining for a long long time...
[07:52] <Rebelstar> sorry ,using for the first time..sorry
[07:52] <Rebelstar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/297325/
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> ElijahCMenifee: i'd have a non root account instad which can sudo, but thats just m
[07:54] <ElijahCMenifee> ActionParsnip, Depending on the problem single user boot as root can be very useful, system requires a root user even if by default it was disabled.
[07:54] <ElijahCMenifee> ActionParsnip, Emergency backdoor access for production servers is very useful.
[07:55] <Bluey> backdoor conjures up the wrong images....
[07:55] <Rebelstar>  ActionParsnip, pls find the output i got in http://paste.ubuntu.com/297325/
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> ElijahCMenifee: ok but for a desktop user who has just installed?
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: yeah i read it, just web searching
[07:57] <X2daYfDaBYcA> how can I get mkv support in vlc
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> !codecs | X2daYfDaBYcA
[07:57] <ElijahCMenifee> ActionParsnip, In complete agreement with you there only needed as specific circumstances(i did say never say never....) , as I have said been sysadmining long time and have been bitten by a disabled root account for emergency hardware/software repair
[07:57] <Bluey> okay off for awhile - but I did enjoy this:  http://www.bash.org/?905833
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> ElijahCMenifee: how can we modprobe "HDA Intel" ?
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> ElijahCMenifee: as it has a space
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> think i got it
[07:59] <ElijahCMenifee> ActionParsnip, I would rename the file to HDA_Intel
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: try this:
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: sudo rmmod snd_hda_intel; sleep 2; sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> ElijahCMenifee: appears it has a different real module name
[08:01] <Rebelstar> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/297326/, i get error
[08:01] <ElijahCMenifee> ActionParsnip, On my local box(karmic) their is a snd-hda-intel.ko available
[08:01] <icarus-c> how to request a new IP from dhcp?  (or can i?)
[08:01] <kusanagi_> is there anyway to force whatever is using swap memory to use regular memory?
[08:02] <ElijahCMenifee> ActionParsnip, Note the - not the _
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> icarus-c: sudo dhclient <interface name>
[08:02] <naruto> hi
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> kusanagi_: you can set swappiness higher and lower, higher = more swap space used, lower = system tries to keep processes in ram
[08:03] <icarus-c> ActionParsnip: would that really change a new IP?
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> kusanagi_: otherwise the kernel will analyse the activities and swap what is needed
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> icarus-c: you would request a new IP, weather or not its different or the same is up to the dhcp server
[08:04] <kusanagi_> ActionParsnip, my comp is going really slow lately (dunno why) but i noticed im using 20% of swap and the regular ram memory is only at 60%... could that be it?
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> kusanagi_: possibly, how much ram do you have?
[08:04] <kusanagi_> 2Gb
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> thats loads, my most powerful pc has that
[08:05] <ziroday> kusanagi_: are you running a VM of any sort?
[08:05] <kusanagi_> ziroday, no
[08:05] <kusanagi_> can i send watever is in swap to ram?
[08:05] <ziroday> kusanagi_: can you pastebin the output of free -m please
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> kusanagi_: run: gksudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf
[08:06] <ziroday> kusanagi_: also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#Performance%20tuning%20with%20%27%27swappiness%27%27
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> kusanagi_: search for vm.swappiness        and change it to vm.swappiness=10
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> kusanagi_: you can then save the file and run: sudo sysctl vm.swappiness=10    to save having to reboot
[08:06] <kusanagi_> http://pastebin.com/d2aa4a9d1
[08:07] <mneptok> kusanagi_: or run "sudo swapoff -a"
[08:07] <ziroday> kusanagi_: hardly any of your swap is used, I doubt that's the reason for your computer being slow
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> kusanagi_: you can run: top     to see whats using most cpu
[08:07] <kusanagi_> firefox without a doubt
[08:08] <mneptok> kusanagi_: or install htop, which is a bit more featureful
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> yep, firefox is garbage
[08:08] <kusanagi_> but ive used ff with more tabs than i currently have and it wasnt this slow
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> firefox uses more cou that: yes > /dev/null
[08:08] <kusanagi_> maybe a tab is leaking or sumthing?
[08:09] <mneptok> kusanagi_: do you have Flash content being displayed?
[08:09] <kusanagi_> only 1 video
[08:09] <kusanagi_> and its a 10 min youtube video
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> kusanagi_: i'd try the swappiness thing, you have a lot of ram to fly at so you should be ok
[08:09] <mneptok> kusanagi_: that's enough. Adobe's Flash implementation for Linux leaves a lot to be desired.
[08:10] <kusanagi_> :/ can a tab be leaking and causing all this?
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> i wish adobe would get smart and open up flash
[08:10] <kusanagi_> ActionParsnip, we all do
[08:10] <mneptok> kusanagi_: get rid of the Flash
[08:10] <mneptok> kusanagi_: i'll wager that's it
[08:10] <Rebelstar> ActionParsnip: it says ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> kusanagi_: also reduce plugins and skins too, they take up ram too
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: hmm
[08:11] <kusanagi_> i restarted ff and its ok now
[08:11] <kusanagi_> i guess i wont be able to detect what was it now
[08:11] <kusanagi_> but in a few hours is gonna be again slow
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: thats the module (and sub modules that help it) that give you sound
[08:11] <mneptok> kusanagi_: open *only* that video
[08:11] <kusanagi_> ive been like this for 2 days
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: maybe your card needs so extra options
[08:12] <kusanagi_> thanks guys :D
[08:12] <Rebelstar> ActionParsnip: one more thing, when i say audio is out,there is still buzz sound
[08:12] <skx> I am trying to compile and install kydpdict but running into a problem I can't debug (at the end of the log, obviously) http://pastebin.com/d46f24249, any idea?
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: are the sliders cranked high?
[08:12] <Rebelstar> yes
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: for volume
[08:12] <indus> hello folks
[08:12] <Rebelstar> yes
[08:12] <kusanagi_> btw, when is a going to run flash smoothly on linux? :(
[08:13] <skx> kusanagi_, never, flash sux
[08:13] <indus> probably when 11 comes out
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> kusanagi_: ask adobe, they hold the key
[08:13] <kusanagi_> skx, we are doom then
[08:13] <kusanagi_> coz everthing is flash
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> or java
[08:13] <skx> I don't feel doomed nor compelled to watch hd movies in flash
[08:13] <skx> anyway, I am trying to compile and install kydpdict but running into a problem I can't debug (at the end of the log, obviously) http://pastebin.com/d46f24249, any ideas? :)
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> firefox 3.7 makes it use less but its flakier than colin the lepper
[08:15] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: Adobe opening Flash will not help much
[08:15] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: the code is beyond crufty, and has significant amounts of ASM
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: but it surely can be analysed and made nicer
[08:15] <kusanagi_> ActionParsnip, can we like buy it the patent and make it free?
[08:15] <kusanagi_> cant*
[08:15] <ziroday> I'm sure donating (time. money, cookies) to the gnash project would help
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: mozilla did it with the code for nutscrape
[08:16] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: how many skilled ASM coders do you know? how many of them want to work on AV crap in their free time?
[08:16] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: Netscape was not ASM
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: its was a joke, none really but i get your point
[08:16] <Rebelstar> ActionParsnip::shall i reinstall ubuntu
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> mneptok: it is a step in the right direction though
[08:16] <mneptok> C-variant coders are cheap and plentiful. ASM ... not so much.
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: i would if no one else can advise. I'm not so good at sound card stuff
[08:17] <Rebelstar> ActionParsnip:thanks a lot for ur help
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Rebelstar: np man
[08:17] <kusanagi_> Rebelstar, i dont know what sound issues did u have
[08:17] <kusanagi_> but im gonna tell what gave the sound back
[08:18] <jabagawee> oh no, my zipfile is corrupt because it has 50GB of extra data in it
[08:18] <kusanagi_> rm ~/.pulse*
[08:18] <jabagawee> incidentally, it should contain a 50GB file, that i really really need
[08:18] <jabagawee> how can i get it out?
[08:18] <xim_> how can i modify the contents of a text (config) file automatically from a shell script?
[08:18] <kusanagi_> jabagawee, what kind of file is in the zip?
[08:19] <jabagawee> it was the Documents/ folder of an old computer
[08:19] <jabagawee> with a truecrypt archive
[08:19] <xim_> is there a shell command which finds lines of text and replaces them?
[08:19] <jabagawee> that i basically dumped everything in
[08:19] <Rebelstar> kusanagi: i http://paste.ubuntu.com/297329/
[08:19] <Billiard> xim_: sed
[08:19] <Rebelstar> kusanagi: iget that msg
[08:19] <jabagawee> exact error: http://pastebin.com/m50494a
[08:19] <xim_> Billiard: thx
[08:20] <necromnicon> does anyone know of a good Usenet download program that supports video streaming?
[08:20] <kusanagi_> jabagawee,  :S if its encripted i dont know if thats possible
[08:20] <jabagawee> kusanagi_, the zipfile isn't encrypted. but there's a tc archive inside the zip
[08:20] <Finnish> Any kdenlive users around? I can't render to ogg today, but yesterday it was possible?
[08:20] <jabagawee> and it's of ridiculous importance to get that truecrypt folder out
[08:20] <ziroday> Finnish: tried running it through the terminal and spotting any error messages printed to it?
[08:20] <kusanagi_> yeah jabagawee but the file inside is encrypted.... that means u cant recover any part of anything
[08:20] <skx> xim_, depending on what you want to do http://www.liamdelahunty.com/tips/linux_search_and_replace_multiple_files.php
[08:21] <jabagawee> kusanagi_, can't we just assume that it's a giant 50GB blob of binary data
[08:21] <jabagawee> and extract it?
[08:21] <jabagawee> i have my password and such, that's no issue
[08:22] <jabagawee> but the zip around it is corrupt
[08:22] <freetime> hi , i have a problem when i do /etc/init.d/networck restart i get th no mount to host
[08:22] <freetime> how to slove this
[08:23] <kusanagi_> jabagawee,  :S well, sorry i have no idea.... but id say i have lost it if it were mine
[08:23] <jabagawee> kusanagi_, wait, what's the issue that's stopping recovery? if my zipfile were corrupted with a 50GB txt file in it, would that make a difference?
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> freetime: so the error is: "No mount to host" ?
[08:24] <kusanagi_> yeah... u cant recover that file
[08:24] <Yuttadhammo> hey there, I have a problem with Ubuntu Server 9.04... when I run netstat -lu  it gives: netstat: no support for `AF INET (udp)' on this system.  How do I add UDP support?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> freetime: is that right?
[08:25] <freetime> o sory no route to host
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> o kthats cool
[08:25] <kusanagi_> jabagawee, i mean, i am no expert, but if something is missing u cant recover that file
[08:25] <kusanagi_> dont give up coz im no expert
[08:25] <kusanagi_> but...
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> freetime: if you run: cat /etc/hostname; cat /etc/hosts
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> freetime: is your hostname in the hosts file to resolve to 127.0.0.1  ?
[08:26] <freetime> no
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> freetime: does it say:   127.0.0.1     localhost
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> freetime: and: 127.0.1.1     <your hostname>
[08:27] <freetime> yes
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> freetime: ok can you ping your router's ip?
[08:28] <freetime> no i can't it ping
[08:28] <Xaifas> Hey i used "gconftool-2 –type bool –set /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop false" to turn my desktop off so i can use a screen saver as wallpaper but now i can't seem to manage to turn it back on, any ideas?
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> freetime: if you set a suitable static IP address for the interface can you ping?
[08:29] <jasonmchristos> ActionParsnip: is always in here giving solid support u would think he was bieng pais
[08:29] <freetime> my ip adress i can ping but other no
[08:29] <Neriko> I've got an issue.
[08:29] <Neriko> It needs fixin'
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> jasonmchristos: i wish ;)
[08:29] <Xaifas> "gconftool-2 -s /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop -t bool true && nautilus" seems to get it back but its only runing while the terminal is runing .. if i close terminal its not working again
[08:30] <pshr_> how to remove default applications that a particular file is opening with, previously i did .chm file to open with nautilus and now when ever i open .chm file it defaults to nautilus giving me a error ?
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> freetime: if you set an ip address that is appropriate for your LAN as well as the router IP for the default gateway, can you ping then
[08:30] <Neriko> I had two different 'buntu distros; I deleted one, and now I need to resize the other to occupy the whole hard drive. How
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> pshr_: right click the file _> select open with then select other. You can now choose the app and tell the system to remember the association
[08:31] <Neriko> How the hell do I do this.
[08:31] <Billiard> Neriko: gparted can resize partitions
[08:31] <Neriko> Hiya Billiard. This is nightone
[08:32] <freetime> no i cant;t it ping
[08:32] <Billiard> Neriko: k
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> freetime: is it wired or wireless?
[08:32] <freetime> is wired
[08:32] <Neriko> Umm, I deleted the other partition, so can I still resize the partition while I'm on it?
[08:32] <pshr_> ActionParsnip, there is no option to check  remember the app, it just opens up with chmviewer thats all
[08:32] <freetime> cable i check
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> !defaulapp
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> freetime: try a different port on the router too
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> freetime: also try a diferent cable as that may be bad
[08:33] <pshr_> ActionParsnip, got it :)
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> pshr_: good lad
[08:33] <Billiard> Neriko: probably not, use a live cd or a gparted cd
[08:34] <tasdawg> Gday all how can make a virtual serial port? send a 'file' to it and have another program pick it up and read it? Please in need of real help
[08:34] <Neriko> So how do i resize it using a the live cd?
[08:34] <pshr_> Is there an Ovi suite (Nokia) for Linux, its turning out to be only reason why i am still having dual boots of XP and Ubuntu
[08:34] <Neriko> I did it once upon a time. No clue how I did it though.
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> Neriko: boot to live cd, run: gksudo gparted    and you can resize as you wish there
[08:35] <tasdawg> pshr_ obex GUI, sync as well
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Neriko: make sure your backs are recent just in case
[08:35] <Neriko> hmm.
[08:35] <Neriko> ok
[08:36] <necromnicon> does anyone know of a good Usenet download program that supports video streaming?
[08:36] <tasdawg> anyone know about pty and tty simulating ??
[08:36] <Bodsda> Hi, I have installed a lamp server and unziped phpbb3 but when I browse to localhost/phpBB3/install/index.php it attempts to download the file instead of displaying it. What am I doing wrong?
[08:36] <necromnicon> or a video player that supports rar files
[08:36] <tasdawg> Badsda: RealRipper
[08:36] <Billiard> Bodsda: install/enable php
[08:36] <Bodsda> tasdawg:
[08:36] <Bodsda> tasdawg: huh?
[08:36] <tasdawg> sorry necromanicon
[08:37] <Shurick> hi all
[08:38] <tasdawg> Badsda: check your config file, you might have php files set as a comment(by default it will only display html, htmls)
[08:38] <Bodsda> Billiard: ah, I had php5-common but not php5 -- my bad, ty
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> necromnicon: you can open the rar and double click the content, it will be opened to temp whil it is played
[08:38] <necromnicon> ActionParsnip: cool thanks
[08:39] <tasdawg> Noone knows about ttyS* or ptyt* ???? simulating a serial port?
[08:39] <fufu> i downloaded an installation file, it opened in archive manager. How do I install it?
[08:40] <tasdawg> fufu: make it exec
[08:40] <Shurick> small question regarding acer notebook with wifi atheros 2425 chipset: is there any solution to fight with pure net performance and constant reconnects to AP?
[08:40] <tasdawg> fufu: chmod +x installfile && ./installfile
[08:41] <fufu> what does the installfile look lke>?
[08:41] <infid_> can i permanently mount a windows/samba public folder, so i don't have to enter a password to access it all the time?
[08:41] <fufu> does it end with .sh?
[08:41] <tasdawg> fufu: the name of the file u downloaded
[08:41] <tasdawg> a install file (bin) can be blah.bin, blah.sh, blah
[08:42] <tasdawg> infid_: yes you Network map it (make a hard link(your file manager should have the option)
[08:44] <infid_> tasdawg: by rightclicking on the folder and choosing 'make link'?
[08:44] <fufu> should i install programs on /opt folder?
[08:45] <infid_> fufu 3rd party stuff maybe
[08:45] <fufu> i wannt to install komodo
[08:45] <fufu> edit
[08:46] <Nukeador> Hi
[08:46] <Bluey> hello
[08:46] <Nukeador> I'm having problems when installing snort 2.8, it's unable to detect that eth0 is a valid interface. I get an error telling me that it isn't.
[08:48] <infid_> fufu are you sure i dont need to list it in /etc/fstab?
[08:49] <fufu> uh.. i already installed it in /opt folder
[08:49] <fufu> will other users see my opt folder?
[08:50] <fufu> i want them to use the program also
[08:50] <infid_> others have read perms by default on /opt
[08:50] <infid_> and execute
[08:50] <fufu> ok good
[08:52] <infid_> what's a decent gui browser for ubuntu that's in the normal repos besides firefox
[08:52] <Bluey> infid_: well firefox is a browser not a gui
[08:52] <infid_> it's a gui based browser, as opposted to a text browser
[08:52] <Bluey> infid_: other browsers would be stuph like opera or konqueror
[08:53] <infid_> i'll try konq, i dont think opera would be in the public repos since it's proprietary
[08:53] <Bluey> infid_: oh you were thinking lynx forgot that
[08:53] <fufu> what does this mean "Once the installer has finished, add Komodo to your   PATH :  Add Komodo/bin to your PATH directly:       export PATH=<installdir>/bin:$PATH "
[08:53] <abhifx> infid_, try seamonkey or opera
[08:53] <d9500> infid_: midori and arora are both gui browsers. not sure about midori, but arora uses the qt toolkit, so it will also install some qt libraries when you install it (worth noting if you want to use gtk only apps)
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> !browser | infid_
[08:54] <Bluey> well I can get opera from the repos
[08:54] <fufu> do i just type "export PATH=<installdir>/bin:$PATH" into the terminal?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> infid_: theres chromium too
[08:54] <Bluey> true
[08:54] <infid_> is that like linux's version of google chrome
[08:55] <Bluey> infid_: yes
[08:55] <ActionParsnip> infid_: its not bad, doesnt do quakelive though so its not for me
[08:56] <Bluey> i think the flock browser is also avail. for linux let me check
[08:56] <tstebut> Hello I got a problem , look , if  I do simple "id" as oracle, get : uid=1001(oracle) gid=1003(oinstall) groupes=0(root),4(adm),1003(oinstall),1004(dba)
[08:56] <samushka> im having trouble compiling an application, getting the error msg: No package 'qtwebkit-sharp' found
[08:56] <tstebut> But if I do a "id oracle" as any, get : uid=1001(oracle) gid=1003(oinstall) groupes=1003(oinstall),4(adm),1004(dba)
[08:56] <tstebut> Why do I get root as secondary group on case 1 ?
[08:56] <Bluey> yup - http://www.flock.com/
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> infid_: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[08:56] <tstebut> hello
[08:57] <tstebut> HI ?
[08:57] <tstebut> Sorry I've been disconnected
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> infid_: you will need to work out the import of the GPG key
[08:57] <Bluey> tstebut: sup?
[08:57] <tstebut> Does anybody answered to my question ?
[08:57] <tstebut> If  I do simple "id" as oracle, get : uid=1001(oracle) gid=1003(oinstall) groupes=0(root),4(adm),1003(oinstall),1004(dba)
[08:57] <tstebut> But if I do a "id oracle" as any, get : uid=1001(oracle) gid=1003(oinstall) groupes=1003(oinstall),4(adm),1004(dba)
[08:57] <tstebut> Why do I get root as secondary group on case 1 ?
[08:57]  * Bluey is not the oracle guy - sorry....
[08:57] <tstebut> No but its about user/group thing
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> infid_: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5   the key
[08:58] <tstebut> The question is
[08:58] <tstebut> Why the .... do I get root as secondary group on case 1 ?
[08:58] <fufu> awesome i installed my first program and configured the path SWEETTT thnks mods
[08:59] <nooneelse> tstebut, you're talking about what ?
[08:59] <Esnaque> hi
[08:59] <Esnaque> can you check your gnome clock and set show seconds
[08:59] <Esnaque> ?
[09:00] <Esnaque> time goes by so slowly
[09:00] <Esnaque> or seconds are skkiped
[09:00] <Esnaque> it seems a general problem
[09:01] <tstebut> Case 1 : I do simple "id" as oracle, get : uid=1001(oracle) gid=1003(oinstall) groupes=0(root),4(adm),1003(oinstall),1004(dba)
[09:01] <Mannan> ey guys, i have just installed ubuntu desktop 9.04 (for the 10th time) and i was wondering if there is anyway i can save its current state (something like Windows Xp System Restore). i want to be able to 'rollback' to a previous restore point just in case i mess up anything because i am new to linux
[09:02] <Esnaque> could anyone check the option "Show seconds" in gnome clock?? Something is going wrong.
[09:02] <iceroot> if i create a file in /etc/cron.d/  will cron automaticly detect the new job? so that i just can put file with the string 5 * * * * * sh test.sh   in it?
[09:03] <Esnaque> anda y q os den
[09:03] <Jonathan_Glam> Hi, I keep getting the following error whilst trying to update: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 632D16BB0C713DA6W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 632D16BB0C713DA6
[09:04] <Jonathan_Glam> How can I fix this error. Happening when loading packages in Add/Remove and in other things
[09:05] <fufu> whats the command for deleting a non-empty directory?
[09:06] <histo> rm -rf
[09:06] <histo> fufu: ^^^^^^^^^^
[09:07] <tstebut> Case 2 :  I do a "id oracle" as any, get : uid=1001(oracle) gid=1003(oinstall) groupes=1003(oinstall),4(adm),1004(dba)
[09:07] <tstebut> Result is not the same, what could explain this (it's all about user/group on Ubuntu)
[09:07] <tstebut> Well forget about oracle....it's an example....what I want is to remove group root from user oracle ....(!)...
[09:07] <fufu> the rm -rf worked
[09:07] <fufu> thanks histo
[09:07] <tstebut> Sorry I was disconnecter...again....
[09:08] <tstebut> Did someone answered to my question ?
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> !gpgerr
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> jonathan_glam: see above, the <key> is the last 8 characters in the output of the code you get in your error
[09:09] <Jonathan_Glam> ok thanks ActionParsnip
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Jonathan_Glam: you can also get the big key file from the same page you got the ppa from but this achieves the same end
[09:11] <Jonathan_Glam> ActionParsnip worked. Wonderful, thanks!
[09:12] <X2daYfDaBYcA> I am having trouble with pulseaudio playback, how can i fix it
[09:12] <kraut> moin
[09:13] <X2daYfDaBYcA> when i try to play a matroska video file, there is no sound due to something wrong with pulseaudio
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Jonathan_Glam: np bro, same with all gpg errors, could script it ;)
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> Jonathan_Glam: instead of a code put $1, you can then send the script the code to get the key for :D
[09:13] <d3xter> hey guys
[09:17] <l314> i'm looking to install fluxbox
[09:17] <tkm> maxi1973
[09:18] <rsk> l314: sudo apt-get install fluxbox in a terminal does
[09:18] <l314> rsk, thank you i was trying get-apt
[09:18] <l314> lol
[09:18] <WackyHyena> helo
[09:19] <preecher> i use ubuntu 9.04 if i wait to the release date for stable 9.10 can i just update to it or do it be a whole new install
[09:19] <MenZa> You can just update it, preecher
[09:20] <preecher> thx
[09:20] <MenZa> preecher: The day it's released, a nice little button will show up in update-manager saying "New release available"
[09:20] <fcuk112_> what's so good about fluxbox?
[09:20] <WackyHyena> is it possible to see a list of recently added applications for ubuntu? like a list of brand new applications that were recently released?
[09:20] <WackyHyena> i want to see what new things I can use
[09:21] <rsk> WackyHyena: using 9.04 ?
[09:21] <WackyHyena> no, 9.10
[09:21] <rsk> then use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic
[09:21] <rsk> also #ubuntu+1 for karmic discussion
[09:23] <de_amore_imah> i'm use ubuntu 8.04, can I update to 9.10,..
[09:23] <l314> rsk: and its sudo apt-get install xfce
[09:23] <rsk> de_amore_imah: yes
[09:23] <rsk> de_amore_imah: update to 8.10 then 9.04 then to 9.10
[09:23] <de_amore_imah> wOw,..  but,I'm affraid make my ubuntu demage,...
[09:24] <rsk> de_amore_imah: then don't do it
[09:24] <de_amore_imah> ??????
[09:24] <rsk> ????
[09:24] <alabd> Is there any download manager for ubuntu that if internet has been disconnected we can continue it next time ?
[09:24] <rsk> why should you be afraid
[09:24] <de_amore_imah> hah? mean?
[09:24] <kran> hello
[09:24] <rsk> alabd: use wget with the -c option for resume
[09:25] <rsk> kran hi
[09:25] <l314> is it sudo apt-get install xfce
[09:25] <rsk> for installing fluxbox?
[09:25] <rsk> no that installs xfce
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-get install xfce4
[09:26] <de_amore_imah> how size for update it until to fix 9.10???
[09:26] <l314> yes thats what i want i want both thank you
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> rsk: for fluxbox its: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[09:26] <rsk> de_amore_imah: hm a few gigabytes
[09:26] <rsk> ActionParsnip: what?
[09:26] <de_amore_imah> 2GB?
[09:26] <rsk> de_amore_imah: probably more
[09:26] <de_amore_imah> enough,..
[09:26] <Jonathan_Glam> Hi, I was wondering. Is there a thing that is similar to Cairodock, but only pops up when I click something, say Alt-Tab. Kind of like in this thing at 0.55seconds in: http://www.break.com/index/it-guy-vs-dumb-employees.html:
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> rsk: its the command to run to install fluxbox
[09:27] <de_amore_imah> hhahhh,...    :'(
[09:27] <rsk> sure, but why would you say that to me
[09:27] <Jonathan_Glam> is there a way to get that to work?
[09:27] <l314> ActionParsnip: i was asking rsk
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> l314: sorry, just read what i put then ;)
[09:28] <l314> ActionParsnip: ya i was trying to do it but didn't realize that it was xfce 4
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> l314: xfce4 will give you just the desktop and you will run your gnome apps, if you install xubuntu-desktop you will get some lighter alternatives to the gnome apps you run
[09:28] <l314> ActionParsnip: ya i was trying to do it but didn't realize that it was xfce4
[09:29] <WackyHyena> if I got a powerful gaming computer, would it be a good idea to put ubuntu on it or should I just keep windows on it?
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> WackyHyena: its not an issue of power, its what suits your needs
[09:29] <l314> ActionParsnip: thank you what is the command to start a gui program via terminal
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> l314: just type its name, it will run
[09:30] <WackyHyena> well, I just don't want ubuntu using only half of the resources of a powerful PC
[09:30] <preecher> did i see that other peoples answer correct--i can install xbuntu desktop only an keep ubuntu progs and everthing else
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> l314: make sure you add a & at the end of the command
[09:30] <vanillasky> I've been running 6.04 AMD64 desktop for several months without problem, and today, I've been having issues with lockups which I thought were HDD related (tested good), and now I have no sound
[09:31] <l314> ActionParsnip: sorry haven't used ubuntu since 5.10 when it first came out
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> WackyHyena: it will use as much as it needs to run, it will use the resources well
[09:31] <rsk> WackyHyena: put ubuntu on it if you want ubuntu, put windows on it if you want windows. pretty easy question.
[09:31] <MenZa> WackyHyena: I just bought a machine with an i7 920, a GTX 285 and 6 gigs of RAM. I dualboot.
[09:31] <vanillasky> I did try the liveCD, and I have working sound under the liveCD
[09:31] <Flannel> vanillasky: 6.06 isn't supported anymore.  You ought to upgrade to 8.04 (which is a direct upgrade)
[09:31] <fcuk112_> MenZa: wow that's a beast!
[09:31] <rsk> no that's a computer.
[09:31] <vanillasky> sorry, fatfingered it, 9.04
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> fcuk112_: you'd like some of my sql servers then ;)
[09:31] <fcuk112_> hehe
[09:32] <rsk> a beast is unreleased hardware that you have under control
[09:32] <rsk> =)
[09:32] <WackyHyena> like ubuntu doesn't use directx functionality of my video card, or is that not correct?
[09:32] <rsk> anyone can buy commodity hardware :p
[09:32]  * frogzoo mumbles something about ActionParsnip yoking thoroughbreds to ploughs...
[09:33] <rsk> WackyHyena: no it dosen't. it can use openGL instead.
[09:33] <Jonathan_Glam> Is there any program that allows me to have a quick launch bar that only pops up when I click a set key, and it doesn't reduce my screen size like cairo dock?
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> WackyHyena: directx is a microsoft product so no
[09:33] <frogzoo> ActionParsnip: oh sql servers, nvm, for some reason was thinking ms sql
[09:33] <WackyHyena> opengl works worse on my card than directx
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> wakejagr: but wine allows an abstraction for it so stuff that uses it may run
[09:33] <rsk> WackyHyena: in windows, right?
[09:34] <WackyHyena> no, in ubuntu
[09:34] <rsk> how can you know
[09:34] <rsk> there's no dx for ubuntu
[09:34] <papul> when's karmic realising?
[09:34] <rsk> !karmic | papul
[09:34] <frogzoo> !koala
[09:34] <WackyHyena> like in nexuiz, it's really really slow with all settings down, and half life at full settings is still fast
[09:34] <darkking_> Hi all! Can anyone help me about "dm_mod" , "dm_mirror", "dm_snapshot" modules?
[09:34] <WackyHyena> nexuiz being on linux and half life 2 being on windows
[09:34] <vanillasky> What would cause my sound to stop working for no reason like that?  There were no updates or changes to the software that I know of.
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> WackyHyena: installed and configured video drivers?
[09:35] <WackyHyena> yes
[09:35] <rsk> WackyHyena: how does nexiuz run in windows?
[09:36] <darkking_> anyone?
[09:36] <rsk> WackyHyena: it's kinda bad comparing peformance with 2 different games
[09:36] <darkking_> nobody?
[09:36] <WackyHyena> openarena runs good in windows and bad in linux with same exact settings
[09:36] <Catalin> hello all
[09:36] <rsk> WackyHyena: have you confirmed you have drivers working well?
[09:37] <WackyHyena> how do I know?
[09:37] <tehbaut> anyone know of a decent screenshot app/utility for ubuntu (not firefox-only) that supports scrolling windows/regions?
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> WackyHyena: logged a bug to the devs?
[09:37] <vanillasky> I was going to just fresh install, but I checked the site and noticed that Karmic is due in 9 days, so I figured I'd wait until then for a fresh install
[09:37] <Catalin> can someone assist me please with a small problem?
[09:37] <rsk> !ask | Catalin
[09:37] <sun`> If i download ubuntu 9.10 beta.. will it be upgraded on 29th OCt?
[09:37] <rsk> sun`: yes
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: gnome has one under graphics or it may be under accessories
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> sun`: yes they use the same repos so you will upgrade seamlessly
[09:37] <Catalin> any ideea where i should find strong dc or dc++
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> !ot | Catalin
[09:38] <Catalin> i want to install in Ubuntu 9.04
[09:38] <tehbaut> ActionParsnip: out of the box? it doesn't support scrolling regions tho...
[09:38] <zcat[1]> birthday?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: ah, i see
[09:38] <rsk> Catalin: there's no good direct connect client for ubuntu, but try microdc.
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> !dc
[09:39] <tehbaut> ActionParsnip: to be honest, I'm looking for a SnagIt replacement for linux
[09:39] <rsk> aren't valknut and family like really bad?
[09:39] <Catalin> microdc is the same thing like strong ?
[09:39] <rsk> no
[09:39] <tehbaut> ActionParsnip: only better, as SnagIt couldn't seem to scroll all regions successfully
[09:39] <rsk> microdc = microdc strong = strong
[09:39] <tehbaut> most, but not all
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: i use snaggit on my work laptop, ive not used or heard of scrolling regions
[09:40] <vanillasky> got it working, now to figure out my freezing issue
[09:40] <vanillasky> thanks
[09:40] <Catalin> and with this program i can connect to my fav hubs?
[09:40] <rsk> 2006-10-29: microdc is no longer in development. wops
[09:40] <rsk> Catalin: yes
[09:40] <tehbaut> ActionParsnip: you must not have it set to scroll then?
 2006-10-29: microdc is no longer in development. wops
[09:40] <Catalin> :((
[09:41] <rsk> haven't used dc since 2005 maybe
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: i just press ctrl + print screen and draw a square round what I need
[09:41] <tehbaut> basically, it's suppose to scroll any scrollable control of any window and piece multiple screenshots of that region back together
[09:41] <WackyHyena> how would I know if I have my video driver installed properly?
[09:41] <Catalin> rsk, a few minutes in private it will upset you?
[09:41] <tehbaut> kinda like page-dn, capture, page-dn, capture... build
[09:41] <rsk> Catalin: yes
[09:42] <linny> anyone had any problems with transmission freezing up the pc, i have a feeling it has something to do with HT on my p4 cpu , does ubuntu "offically" support HT
[09:42] <rsk> WackyHyena: you should get good peformance in games
[09:42] <Catalin> Yes means that i can do that?
[09:42] <tehbaut> ActionParsnip: it's an awesome feature when it works (and it does for a majority of scrollable regions)
[09:42] <rsk> it means dont private message me, i don't know you
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> WackyHyena: if you can run 3D its installed, 3D stuff simply wont start without the right driver
[09:43] <Catalin> ok rsk , sorry
[09:43] <rsk> ActionParsnip: you sure? ati/radeon driver can run 3 stuff
[09:43] <rsk> 3d*
[09:43] <Catalin> so, can you name another client like dc for me?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: i've only used it for small regions, I can do the same without and mspaint to isolate what i need
[09:43] <rsk> 10:38 < ActionParsnip> !dc
[09:43] <rsk> 10:38 < ubottu> Direct Connect clients: linuxdcpp, dcgui (GTK), Valknut, dc-qt (Qt), rccp (terminal-based) - See also !P2P
[09:43] <tehbaut> hmmm, I thought FireFox was supposed to be uncrashable on ubuntu? :P
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> rsk: sure, the drivers just arent great
[09:43] <rsk> tehbaut: not really
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> !dc | Catalin
[09:44] <WackyHyena> enabling blur in compiz slows everything way down, and sometimes messes up the screen so I have to restart Xorg
[09:44] <tehbaut> ActionParsnip: well saving time sure is a beautiful thing :)
[09:44] <rsk> WackyHyena: disable compiz when running games
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: i'm at work now
[09:44] <tehbaut> you should try it some time :D
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: i have time
[09:44] <tehbaut> heh
[09:44] <Catalin> thank you guys
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> WackyHyena: ati under linux is pretty poor due to ati not wanting to support ati but they are getting better
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> WackyHyena: nvidia cards are very supported
[09:45] <WackyHyena> rsk, i'm trying to make compiz make my titlebars slightly blurred like in vista, but that slows down the whole system, even when not running anything else, it's an intel 945GM card
[09:46] <rsk> WackyHyena: you were saying before you had an ATI card
[09:46] <rsk> WackyHyena: stop confusing me
[09:46] <WackyHyena> i did?
[09:46]  * WackyHyena checks
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> WackyHyena: i thought you said you had a powerful gaming pc?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> with an onboard intel graphics card??
[09:47] <rsk> WackyHyena: intel has a opensource driver that works fairly well
[09:47] <rsk> WackyHyena: but the windows one is closed source with some magic linux dosen't have
[09:48] <WackyHyena> i'm going to buy one soon and I want to know if ubuntu would take advantage of it's power, like supporting all the cores and things like that
[09:48] <rsk> but it's getter better for every day basicly in linux
[09:48] <rsk> WackyHyena: Yes it will if you buy nvidia GPU, cpu dosen't matter.
[09:48] <MenZa> WackyHyena: It certainly can.
[09:48] <linny> ActionParsnip: hes prolly repeating what they told him at pc world :S
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> linny: thats what i thought, i love pc world, its fun to baffle them
[09:48] <linny> :)
[09:49] <frosty840> Hi, I'm trying to follow this guide to grub error 22 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 . I'm booting from a live USB. I get to the second line of the instruction, to run "find /boot/grub/?stage1" and am getting error 15: File not found returned. The thing is, the stage1 file is there, in /boot/grub/. Any ideas?
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> linny: ask them about the cas latency of the ram in their systems, that always gets them scrathing their heads
[09:49] <WackyHyena> i hope I can delete my windows partition soon if wine gets good enough to run my games :D
[09:50] <linny> ActionParsnip: nah im not silly enough to buy things from pc world
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> WackyHyena: you could
[09:50] <tehbaut> is there a trick to undo changes made to settings in a dialog box?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> linny: me neither, i just use it as an entertainment centre
[09:50] <linny> if i ever need to waste 70 pounds or so on some bloated anti-virus i know where to go
[09:51] <WackyHyena> anti-viruses are useless, even in windows (to me)
[09:51] <tehbaut> I guess I'm somewhat used to the [save] [apply] [cancel] workflow implemented by windows
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> WackyHyena: in windows they are advised due to poor user modelling
[09:53] <WackyHyena> I wonder if there's any video editor that handles mesh distortions, seems like it's only an idea in linux
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> wonder away, you'll never know unless you ask or research
[09:55] <rsk> WackyHyena: http://www.blender.org/features-gallery/features/
[09:55] <tehbaut> is there a better weather widget for gnome panels than the one included by default?
[09:55] <rsk> tehbaut: what do you mean by better?
[09:55] <WackyHyena> blender is for 3d animation though
[09:56] <tehbaut> well, I was hoping for something more widgety when you click to get the forcast an such
[09:56] <tehbaut> rather than a tabbed window with plain text
[09:56] <rsk> use awn or such
[09:57] <tehbaut> something perhaps that pops up when you click, and allows you to interact with it, but clicking away makes it vanish
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: there may be some desklet that gives it
[09:57] <lyhana8> hi, I try to commit a personnal projet to a svn repository but I got this error : containing working copy admin area is missing
[09:58] <lyhana8> the folder doesn't exist in the repository so I couldn't check him out
[09:58] <tehbaut> is there a good resource for desklets on the web?
[09:58] <tehbaut> or just the desklets site itself
[10:00] <accid> i just installed ubunto on a vm, what are some cool plugins i can get ?
[10:00] <kbmaniac> have migrated to ubuntu but still get the xubuntu 'loading' screen, how to change ?
[10:00] <rsk> accid: please give a cool example, so i know what you want
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: http://www.gdesklets.de/
[10:01] <accid> rsk - interface wise
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> !bootsplash
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> !splash
[10:01] <rsk> accid: what do you think is cool in a interface?
[10:01] <accid> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Fbk52Mk1w
[10:01] <kbmaniac> many thanks
[10:01] <accid> that is
[10:02] <accid> i like the widgets
[10:02] <rsk> accid: do install the prgoram in the youtube vid then?
[10:02] <rsk> accid: there's countless plugins for compiz
[10:02] <tehbaut> thanks ActionParsnip, this AWN app is interesting too
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: sounds like you found something then :)
[10:03] <tehbaut> wonder if it can be made to act similar to the win7 superbar, which I think behaves pretty decently
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> accid: you will need to install compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:04] <accid> doing so now accid
[10:04] <Solar_Flare> Hi ^^
[10:04] <accid> ActionParsnip
[10:04] <Solar_Flare> can i somehow save my changes to the ubuntu live-cd?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> accid: i'm not sure how vmware gives any sort of 3D acceleration which compiz needs
[10:05] <rsk> Solar_Flare: no
[10:05] <accid> rsk
[10:05] <rsk> accid
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> Solar_Flare: you can put the live cd home on a usb to store settings
[10:06] <accid> i may just install ubuntu on its own partition
[10:06] <rsk> and how does that relate to me?
[10:06] <accid> yes rsk ?
[10:06] <ruby_on_tails> hello
[10:06] <||David||> bleh
[10:06] <Solar_Flare> ActionParsnip Ive got it on a usb drive, how do I set it to store changes there?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Solar_Flare: if the livecd is on the usb as well then any chnages will be automatically stored
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Solar_Flare: you can even update the packages
[10:07] <Solar_Flare> wow...
[10:07] <ruby_on_tails> hello
[10:07] <Solar_Flare> ubuntu astonishes me every day more and more...
[10:07] <Solar_Flare>  ^^
[10:07] <Solar_Flare> thanks.
[10:07] <Solar_Flare> cu
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Solar_Flare: np
[10:07] <FloodBot1> Solar_Flare: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:08] <Jonathan_Glam> Is there a simple .deb installation for Gnome Do Docky?
[10:08] <|DarkStar|> holy...this place is almost as big as dalnet or somewhere old
[10:08] <Jonathan_Glam> Because I installed Gnome do... but i can't seem to get the dock working
[10:08] <accid> rsk
[10:08] <rsk> accid
[10:08] <accid> =]
[10:08] <ruby_on_tails> is it possible to make a bash script which can clean my desktop every Sunday ?
[10:08] <accid> i have a few silly questions
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> ruby_on_tails: sure, the desktop is just a folder ~/Desktop
[10:09] <accid> can one OS remote desktop into another OS ?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> ruby_on_tails: so you can have a script to empty that folder
[10:09] <rsk> Jonathan_Glam: http://do.davebsd.com/download.shtml and click on ubuntu?
[10:09] <vox> accid: sure
[10:09] <rsk> accid: yes
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> accid: sure can
[10:09] <ruby_on_tails> no no not empty ActionParsnip :P
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> ruby_on_tails: whatever you want, it will be done in that folder
[10:09] <accid> RSK, which program do i need to remote from xp to ubuntu ?
[10:10] <rsk> accid: none
[10:10] <d9500> accid: you mean vnc or rdp (to windows)? both can be done from ubuntu, but unless the machines are on the same lan, you probably need a vpn tunnel between them.
[10:10] <Jonathan_Glam> rsk, how do I install it from the ppa?  https://launchpad.net/~do-core/+archive/ppa
[10:10] <accid> there is one here called krdc
[10:10] <rsk> Jonathan_Glam: read the instructions
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> ruby_on_tails: write the script to do whatever then have it running every sunday
[10:10] <ruby_on_tails> for example if I am working on 4 projects which have their folders in var/www/ can a script put the lazy files downloaded/copied on the desktop in the respective folders in var/www each Sunday
[10:10] <ruby_on_tails> aah k
[10:10] <FloodBot1> ruby_on_tails: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> accid: or if you want basic control you can use ssh and have a command line interface which is much faster
[10:10] <slawek> #lubin
[10:11] <ruby_on_tails> who coded FloodBot1 ?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> ruby_on_tails: i'd bet jussi
[10:11] <MenZa> ruby_on_tails: Ask in #ubuntu-bots for these types of questions.
[10:11] <ruby_on_tails> ActionParsnip: can this thing be done on windows os ?
[10:11] <ruby_on_tails> DOS scripts maybe ?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> ruby_on_tails: not sure, ask in ##windows
[10:12] <ruby_on_tails> hmm.. ok
[10:12] <ziroday> ruby_on_tails: floodbot was created by LjL` and I'm guessing in perl, but could very well be wrong
[10:13] <ziroday> ruby_on_tails: and IIRC its not open source, but #ubuntu-bots is the best place to ask
[10:13] <tehbaut> for some reason, I'm now unable to select certain apps to install from the Jaunty Add/Remove Apps listing
[10:13] <ruby_on_tails> ziroday: what's IIRC ?
[10:13] <ziroday> ruby_on_tails: if I recall corrrectly :)
[10:14] <ziroday> tehbaut: like?
[10:14] <ruby_on_tails> oh k
[10:14] <tehbaut> ziroday: RAR, Avant Window Navigator
[10:14] <ruby_on_tails> I just want to tell the coder to improve the logic, the bot shouts 3 out of 5 times on me when I am here
[10:14] <MenZa> ruby_on_tails: Again, #ubuntu-bots :)
[10:14] <tehbaut> ziroday: looks like it's actually only an issue when I've done a search
[10:15] <ruby_on_tails> 1 sec
[10:15] <ziroday> tehbaut: hmm, try doing 'sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator' in a terminal
[10:15] <MenZa> alternative, ruby_on_tails - https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[10:15] <ruby_on_tails> done
[10:15] <tehbaut> ziroday: I take that back, still not able to select RAR
[10:15] <ruby_on_tails> told at #ubuntu-bots
[10:15] <david__> help, i uninstalled an app and it still is in the menu button under office..
[10:15] <tehbaut> is that because I installed 7zip?
[10:16] <d9500> david: you just want to get rid of the entry in the menu?
[10:16] <|DarkStar|> david_ ...right click on the menu and go to "Edit Menu"
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> d9500: then run alacarte and remove it
[10:17] <d9500> DarkStar beat me to it.
[10:17] <|DarkStar|> yay
[10:17] <|DarkStar|> I'm somewhat useful
[10:17]  * david__ runs alacarte
[10:17] <david__> yay, it worked, thanks alot ActionParsnip =D
[10:17] <d9500> Actually, |DarkStar| your method was quicker than mine. I was going to suggest System-->Prefes-->Main Menu. So thx for the tip.
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> david__: np man
[10:18] <|DarkStar|> d9500, np
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> david__: you can also create entrys there too (for example for your home made scripts0
[10:18] <cowgarden> hi, how to see the remaining space on a CD/DVD in the burning utility?
[10:18] <|DarkStar|> what's alacarte, btw?
[10:18] <Jonathan_Glam> rsk, got in updated thanks. How would I install compositing? I tried before a while back, but completely failed. Is there a guide you could link me to?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> !info alacarte | |DarkStar|
[10:19] <Trance> hi all
[10:19] <|DarkStar|> cool ty
[10:19] <Trance> I have a problem with sound in beta
[10:19] <rsk> Jonathan_Glam: no idea
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> !9.10 | Trance
[10:20] <|DarkStar|> my main laptop crapped out so I'm on my netbook now :(
[10:20] <Trance> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[10:20] <|DarkStar|> works good, now that I'm using it hehe
[10:20] <Jonathan_Glam> rsk, k :(
[10:20] <cowgarden> nobody burning CDs with nautilus?
[10:20] <fcuk112_> cowgarden: i use k3b.
[10:20] <cowgarden> fcuk112_, if that one shows me what I need.. I'll give it a try
[10:20] <engrshahryar_> hello to all
[10:21] <engrshahryar_> anyone worked with LBS?
[10:21] <engrshahryar_> i need a small help
[10:21] <|DarkStar|> cowgarden, I used to use k3b but it wasn't working with my dvd-rw...so I bought nero (ducks for backlash)
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> jonathan_glam: you need to install video drivers first, then you can switch on compiz and have compositing
[10:21] <engrshahryar_> location based services? anyone used it in thier app? plz help
[10:21] <cowgarden> |DarkStar|, there is a linux nero?
[10:21] <|DarkStar|> cowgarden, yessir
[10:21] <|DarkStar|> costs money, though
[10:22] <Jonathan_Glam> actionparsnip: last time I tried to install Compiz it stuffed up and I had to re-install/repair Ubuntu via LiveCD
[10:22] <|DarkStar|> I'd use it as a last resort, though, like I had to...k3b didn't work for me
[10:22] <Jonathan_Glam> actionparsnip: i'm looking at: http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/03/31/enable-metacity-compositing-in-gnome-222/
[10:22] <cowgarden> |DarkStar|, supporting linux makes them deserve some money :)
[10:22] <rsk> Jonathan_Glam: it should be installed already if you are using 9.04, that link is old.
[10:22] <|DarkStar|> cowgarden, I agree...
[10:22] <Jonathan_Glam> rsk, I am yes
[10:23] <Jonathan_Glam> rsk, but I'm still getting that on Gnome Do
[10:23] <cowgarden> fcuk112_, woa, loads of kde libs :)
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> jonathan_glam; tombuntu is usually pretty good
[10:23] <|DarkStar|> cowgarden, I was pretty happy with it
[10:23] <zaoul1> gimmie muh monie
[10:23] <fcuk112_> cowgarden: yes, its a KDE app.
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> !burning | cowgarden
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> nero for linux seems awfully silly when there are all those apps you can use for free
[10:23] <|DarkStar|> kinda like how some game companies like 2Dboy deserve money for supporting linux
[10:23] <cowgarden> ActionParsnip, thanks, now I have k3b :)
[10:24] <david__> um.. i want to learn lots about linux etc any tips on how to do that fast?
[10:24] <rsk> david__: do things with it
[10:24] <|DarkStar|> ActionParsnip, what if none work but a commercial app does?
[10:24] <ziroday> david__: and use the wiki
[10:24] <fcuk112_> david__: read some books.
[10:24] <cowgarden> david__, maybe just try to tweak your system?
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> |DarkStar|: then you have some crazy issue
[10:24] <zaoul1> david__: if you want to learn 'Linux' dont use ubuntu
[10:24] <david__> rsk: what "things" do i do?
[10:24] <rsk> david__: things you want, that gives best results
[10:24] <david__> zaoul1: i was thinking about debian but i dont know if the difference is that huge..
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> |DarkStar|: i'd look at settings and try a million different combinations before paying for an app
[10:25] <zaoul1> david__: you are right, they both use apt-get so it would be the same
[10:25] <|DarkStar|> ActionParsnip, which a commercial program solves...so...? Don't get me wrong, I'd like to use K3b but at the time it didn't detect the drive
[10:25] <Jonathan_Glam> rsk, wonderful it worked that link
[10:25] <Jonathan_Glam> actionparsnip worked, thanks man!
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> jonathan_glam: sweet nice one
[10:25] <|DarkStar|> ActionParsnip, not everyone has the time, or the knowledge to do that. Some, like myself, are just impatient and want stuff to work.
[10:25] <david__> zaoul1:  could use freebsd then...
[10:26] <zaoul1> david__: you said you wanted to learn Linux ..
[10:26] <cowgarden> fcuk112_, how do I select multiple files in K3b?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> |DarkStar|: then your wallet will take a hit
[10:26] <alan__> lol i need help desperately, amsn disappeared from systray, and its not in system processes, but its still on, how do i access it?
[10:26] <david__> zaoul1: as long as i learn something im happy, any OS recomendations for learning?
[10:26] <cowgarden> fcuk112_, folders i ment, they keep opening on single klick
[10:26] <zaoul1> david__: Gentoo
[10:26] <rsk> david__: LFS
[10:27] <zaoul1> rsk: oh dont make the guy commit suicide
[10:27] <alan__> david__: crunchbang!
[10:27] <|DarkStar|> ActionParsnip, a small hit, true. Not anything in the order of paying for a MS Windows license, though. I don't see the problem.
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> david__: +1 for gentoo
[10:27] <rsk> -1 for gentoo
[10:27] <zaoul1> we prob need to stop now the topic nazis  will show up soon
[10:27] <alan__> Crunchbang is pretty easy to use, and its faster than ubuntu
[10:27] <fcuk112_> cowgarden: are you trying to burn a dvd?
[10:27] <cowgarden> fcuk112_, yes
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> |DarkStar|: true true, i'd rather try and get the open solutions going but if the paid for one gets you sorted then its no bad thing
[10:28] <zaoul1> alan__: we want to learn Linux not xyz distribution
[10:28] <|DarkStar|> There's room for commercial apps in linux
[10:28] <fcuk112_> cowgarden: just select new data dvd project and drag files into the window.
[10:28] <david__> so.. what do i do gentoo or lfs?
[10:28] <indus> is ubuntu 9.10rc out
[10:28] <rsk> indus: no
[10:28] <zaoul1> david__: I would setup ubuntu and then install virtualbox and give a whirl at whatever you feel like
[10:28] <indus> rsk: delayed?
[10:28] <cowgarden> fcuk112_, wanted to use the build in browser, but thats a simple workarround :) thx...
[10:28] <alan__> Does anyone know how to open a list of all running applications?
[10:28] <rsk> indus: afaik it won't be a RC.
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> |DarkStar|: definately, there already is too: penumbra, cedega and crossoveroffice are also commercial
[10:28] <zaoul1> david__: in the virtual env
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> alan__: ps -ef | less
[10:29] <rsk> david__: if you want to learn linux get LFS, gentoo is more for having a usable system and good practices
[10:29] <|DarkStar|> ActionParsnip, I used that method for getting DVDs to play...I won't spend a single dime to play DVDs I already own and should be able to play
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> |DarkStar|: the demo of penumbra is great :D
[10:29] <zaoul1> system -- administration -- system monitor
[10:29] <|DarkStar|> ActionParsnip, yeah it is...actually I played Doom 3 in Linux...good game
[10:29] <Tm_T> |DarkStar|: ActionParsnip: ...
[10:29] <|DarkStar|> ActionParsnip, and 2D Boy's World of Goo...not a bad game either
[10:30] <zaoul1> id say LFS is outdated, gentoo you can do the same thing without having to solve all the deps yourself, drive yourself crazy
[10:30] <djtigerwolf> how do i get amarok to play mp3 files i already added restricted files
[10:30] <|DarkStar|> there are some great commercial linux games out there
[10:30] <arand> I have a wireless network which only leases for ~300 seconds, meaning that network manager drops the connection constantly, are there any settings in NM to mitigate this?
[10:30] <zaoul1> gentoo you do everything manually anywya.. partition, bootloader, kernel
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> |DarkStar|: totally, some are magnificent
[10:31] <Tm_T> zaoul1: ActionParsnip |DarkStar| please, topic
[10:31] <rsk> zaoul1: he wants to learn linux, LFS isn't outdated for that.
[10:31] <WackyHyena> are there any audio editors available that use something like keyframes?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> arand: use static IP
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> arand: change your dhcp lease time to something realistic
[10:31] <zaoul1> and there they are
[10:31] <zaoul1> im outie
[10:31] <acts_as_rubyist> hello all, anyone here used Openmeetings ever?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> Tm_T: gotcha
[10:31] <david__> then that settles it, il run gentoo first, then lfs later(lfs sounds harder so il learn stuff in gentoo first)
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> david__: gentoo will teach you much
[10:32] <|DarkStar|> david__, I'd run slackware first if I were you7
[10:32] <|DarkStar|> -7
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> david__: grab the handbook and the minimal CD and away you go
[10:32] <acts_as_rubyist> my first linux install was gentoo from stage 1 tarballs
[10:32] <acts_as_rubyist> can you even do that anymore?
[10:33]  * david__ starts getting confused..
[10:33] <david__> slackware, gentoo, lfs...
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> acts_as_rubyist: you can but its not supported, stage3 is more accepted
[10:34] <acts_as_rubyist> totally, that was a long time ago
[10:34] <jussi01> !ot
[10:34] <Tm_T> david__: acts_as_rubyist and others, if your conversation isn't Ubuntu support related, please use our lovely #ubuntu-offtopic channel, thanks (:
[10:35] <acts_as_rubyist> ok. So has anyone gotten Openmeetings to run under ubunutu?
[10:35] <WackyHyena> what's openmeetings
[10:35] <hsarci_> whenever i try to open a folder from "places" i get a error saying "No application is registered as handling this file"? any ideas???
[10:35] <acts_as_rubyist> sorry, back now
[10:35] <ziroday> hsarci_: what version of ubuntu?
[10:36] <horsie> anyone know how accurate the release schedule for 9.10 is?
[10:36] <hsarci_> ziroday, karmic...i asked in +1 but no one responded
[10:36] <acts_as_rubyist> looking for some install help for this Openmeetings RC5
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> !9.10 | horsie
[10:36] <acts_as_rubyist> it's supported for debian variants, but I'm having a heck of a time putting openmeetings on my ubuntu box
[10:36] <WackyHyena> does anyone use JACK in ubuntu? i can' seem to get ardour and other jack based applications to run
[10:37] <horsie> ta - is the date close to garunteed or a target? or is it released at that stage regardless
[10:37] <ziroday> hsarci_: one sec
[10:37] <tehbaut> AWN seems a tad buggy
[10:37] <hsarci_> ziroday, thanks
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> horsie: ask in #ubuntu+1   karmic isnt discussed here
[10:38] <horsie> k - thanks
[10:38] <arand> I have a wireless network which only leases for ~300 seconds, meaning that network manager drops the connection constantly (I presume this is the reason). Currently I'm forced to use ifupdown (+wpa_client) and "watch -n 200 sudo dhclient wlan0" To access the network, which works just as it should. Any way to get this working in NM?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> arand: why the short lease?
[10:40] <arand> ActionParsnip: Not my network, have no idea, it's normally configured using a client application (SecureW2) on windows...
[10:40] <|DarkStar|> arand, are you using a wireless router connected to your cable? adsl? and if so, can you connect to it directly and access it's web config page?
[10:40] <pee> hi, currently I'm reading in a magazine, that when I create a virtual-hosts file in /etc/apache2/sites-available, so I should link from /etc/apache2/sites-enabled. but how looks »the link« like in practise? I have the skript for the virtual-host file, but I don't know nothing about the »linking«. :-)
[10:41] <arand> Clarification: I have no possibility configure the network/DHCP, this is a wireless access point at a university.
[10:41] <fcuk112_> pee: man ln
[10:41] <ziroday> hsarci_:     * Right click a folder, go to Properties -> Open With, and change it back to Nautilus. There's a bug where if a folder is opened in an application, it automatically associates folders with that application on your system.
[10:42] <venil> Hi everyone, i created usb drive with ubuntu on it with persistence enabled, so i can save files - however if i make changes to /etc/resolv.conf(and possibly other system files) - its reset on reboot, is there a way to fix this so i can persistently make changes to it.
[10:42] <pee> fcuk112_: thx.
[10:42] <hsarci_> ziroday, right click within nautilus?? becasue i cant rightclick from the "places" menu
[10:43] <arand> |DarkStar|: I can't configure it see^
[10:43] <FiReSTaRT> hsarci_: so open one of the "places" and that'll open nautilus.. then right click on any folder and open the properties
[10:43] <ziroday> hsarci_: any folder will do
[10:44] <hsarci_> *sigh* im in nautilus, ive right clicked on a folder...and theres no place to change what application it opens with
[10:44] <ziroday> hsarci_: did you go to properties?
[10:44] <hsarci_> ziroday, nvm, its not in properties
[10:45] <venil> anyone?
[10:45] <ziroday> hsarci_: woops its been moved since that was pasted
[10:45] <hsarci_> ziroday, thanks a lot...works now :)
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> arand: use a static ip
[10:45] <erUSUL> hsarci_: it is in Properties>Open with tab
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> venil: network manager will change that file
[10:46] <hsarci_> erUSUL, no its not...not on karmic at least...
[10:46] <FiReSTaRT> hsarci_: or jaunty
[10:46] <erUSUL> hsarci_: if you are in karmic you are asking in the wrong channel
[10:46] <FiReSTaRT> hsarci_: i checked in jaunty, same deal
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> venil: so you can use staic IP and disable network manager
[10:46] <erUSUL> FiReSTaRT: i am in karmic and the tab is there
[10:46] <erUSUL> !karmic | hsarci_
[10:46] <FiReSTaRT> erUSUL:  i'm curious about this for jaunty
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> venil: or you can add the dns servers in network manager somewhere maybe
[10:46] <erUSUL> FiReSTaRT: jaunty* sorry
[10:46] <hsarci_> erUSUL, you are god of ubuntu, thanks for clarifying this as i had no idea what im doing and i would be lost without you
[10:46] <venil> ActionParsnip: where exactly?
[10:47] <nearst> hi ppl
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> venil: i dont use the app, it has no benefit to me so i remove it
[10:47] <FiReSTaRT> erUSUL: i'm in jaunty but i don't have an open with tab for a folder
[10:47] <venil> ActionParsnip: so how do i configure to use static ip?
[10:47] <nearst> look /etc/network/interface
[10:47] <arand> ActionParsnip: hmm, that's an idea... *testing
[10:48] <FiReSTaRT> erUSUL: basic emblems permissions notes share
[10:48] <erUSUL> FiReSTaRT: folder? the folder pen with the file manager (nautilus). it makes no sense imho to change that to anything else
[10:48] <venil> nearst: it will be reset after reboot, no persistance for this file
[10:48] <erUSUL> FiReSTaRT: what would you change that to ? anuther filemanager?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> venil: i set it in /etc/network/interfaces as nearst uggested. here is a guide: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[10:48] <FiReSTaRT> erUSUL: exactly :)
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> venil: you can then disable the thing from loading at startup using bum
[10:48]  * erUSUL :S
[10:49] <venil> ActionParsnip: wont it be reset, same as  resolv.conf ?
[10:49] <nearst> venil: ifconfig inet bla bla will lost when reboot... not in config
[10:49] <hoit> is there a users sidebar or something in this xchat
[10:49] <i3azab> does anyone knows how to install "build-essential" form the .tar.gz file ?
[10:49] <nearst> venil: yeah... keep in resolv.conf for dnsname
[10:49] <FiReSTaRT> erUSUL: nautilus is adequate, but i'd like to check out a few other options before i wipe my machine and install jaunty+1 :P
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> venil: no, it supercedes all network settings too, if you disable network manager, you can add any name servers you wish in resolv.conf and they will not get removed
[10:50] <erUSUL> FiReSTaRT: so you want to pen everything with nautilus except for one folder (or a few) that you want to open with dolphin? konqueror? roxfiler? ... people are crazy
[10:50] <meanieface> FiReSTaRT: why not just use thunar?
[10:50] <FiReSTaRT> meanieface: i might
[10:50] <venil> ActionParsnip:  ah, i see, ok
[10:50] <nearst> better open a folder in shell :) .. thats true linux
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> venil: personally, I think the network manager overwriting the resolv.cof file is rude
[10:50] <meanieface> FiReSTaRT: lightweight and acts just as well as nautilus
[10:51] <venil> ActionParsnip: can i disable it from startup, but keep it if i need to run in later?
[10:51] <FiReSTaRT> erUSUL: i've used "open with" to change the default app across the board since preferred applications doesn't work every time
[10:52] <nearst> any idea about good virtualization ?
[10:52] <hsarci_> the settings in gconf for power manager that refer to time....what unit of measurement do they use???? for example it says "spindown time ac: 600" that means 600 whats?
[10:52] <FiReSTaRT> meanieface: ideally i'd like a cross b/w nautilus and win commander.. i'll check thunar out and whatever else is out there.. currently away from home so i don't have too much time to screw around with the system
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> venil: sure: sudo apt-get install bum; gksudo bum    then disable and stop network manager
[10:52] <FiReSTaRT> nearst: virtual box (giyf)
[10:53] <meanieface> FiReSTaRT: sounds good
[10:53] <pee> I have ln -s /etc/apache2/sites-available/netzor.local.conf in my 000-default file at /etc/apache2/sites-enabled before </VirtualHost>. at the apache2-restart I get the message: Syntax error on line 41 of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default:
[10:53] <pee> Invalid command 'ln', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration
[10:53] <nearst> FiReSTaRT: im know that... im talking about kvm
[10:53] <FiReSTaRT> speaking of which i gotta go translate a job proposal, so i'm outta here.. have a good one guys :)
[10:54] <nearst> pee: u got defines in vhost.conf
[10:54] <pee> nearst: I should define the link there, yeah?
[10:55] <nearst> no... in apache.conf / httpd.conf
[10:55] <nearst> edit that file pee
[10:56] <tehbaut> is there some way to make it so that when I'm dragging selections inside of a textbox, they don't change if I drag above or below the box, only left/right of the initial click
[10:56] <pee> nearst: in which folder are they? I was searching with sudo find / -name for them and I couldn't find anything.
[10:56] <erUSUL> pee: ln is in coreutils and should be installed?
[10:56] <tehbaut> that is reaaaally annoying (that it changes the selection when I accidentally drag above/below the textbox)
[10:57] <napster_123> i've installed svn through apt-get ... where can i find the conf files ?
[10:57] <pee> erUSUL: puh.. I was searching in synaptic for any with »ln«, without success.
[10:58] <nearst> find / -name apt.conf
[10:58] <erUSUL> pee: given that coreutils have cp mv and a lot of other core utils of any sane unix system i'm amazed that you do not have that installed
[10:59] <nathan7> Hi, I have a realtek that is working *great* when I unload 8139cp and reload 8139too - but it loads 8139cp in initramfs. How do I stop that?
[11:00] <nearst> nathan crate initramfs again or unload that modules
[11:00] <nathan7> Hmm.
[11:00] <|DarkStar|> dangit
[11:00] <nathan7> I have it blacklisted.
[11:00] <nathan7> And I ran update-initramfs -u
[11:00] <|DarkStar|> any programmer canucks in here? i.e. canadians?
[11:00] <pee> erUSUL: mv and cp are working well. thats my httpd.conf (from the apache2-folder - dunno why sudo find / -name wasn't finding it): http://bin.cakephp.org/view/744963666
[11:00] <nathan7> Caek.
[11:01] <nearst> pee: better with su - command
[11:01]  * nathan7 generates fresh initramfs
[11:01] <hoit> xchat is shit
[11:01] <pee> but now apache2 is alerting that: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1973700085
[11:01] <erUSUL> nathan7: /etc/initramfs-tools/modules ??
[11:02] <erUSUL> !blacklist | nathan7
[11:02] <nearst> erUSUL: your bot work like a charm
[11:03] <alabd> e.g is there any strategy/RPG game without wrath and war ?
[11:03] <erUSUL> nearst: is not mine :) i only know a few factoids ;)
[11:03] <nathan7> erUSUL: Oh, thanks
[11:03] <nearst> erUSUL: better for help people out there..
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> alabd: pokemon siler / gold / pearl / whatever
[11:04] <nearst> alabd: solitair also RPG game in your mind
[11:04] <nathan7> erUSUL: Nvm, it worked
[11:04] <erUSUL> !yay | nathan7
[11:04] <nathan7> Recreating the initramfs that is
[11:04] <r3za> hey guys , i have a problem , when i was to create iso from my package with aptoncd its close program automatically right on 87% , how can i fix this ?
[11:05] <nearst> !yay | erUSUL
[11:05] <nathan7> !yay > /dev/null
[11:06] <r3za> hey guys , i have a problem , when i was to create iso from my package with aptoncd its close program automatically right on 87% , how can i fix this ?
[11:06] <nathan7> Hmm
[11:07] <nathan7> r3za: Try running it from the terminal
[11:07] <nathan7> r3za: Maybe you can see the error message
[11:08] <r3za> nathan : HOW can i do that ?
[11:08] <karl0s> helou moto
[11:08] <nic1> how to install and run xdeskop on ubuntu?
[11:09] <rsk> nic1: install it, then runt it.
[11:09] <r3za> nathan7:  ok , got it
[11:09] <rsk> run*
[11:09] <karl0s> good luck
[11:09] <meanieface> lmao
[11:09] <nic1> rsk, what are the commands?
[11:09] <JNSamuel> ..
[11:09] <rsk> nic1: it dosen't say in the manual?
[11:09] <karl0s> rtfm
[11:09] <nathan7> nic1: xdeskop?
[11:09] <nathan7> I think you mean desktop?
[11:09] <alabd> ActionParsnip: siler is another game ?
[11:10] <nic1> nathan7, yes
[11:10] <nathan7> What specific one?
[11:10] <nic1> xfce
[11:11] <karl0s> apt-get install xdeskop
[11:11] <nathan7> http://www.x-desktop.org/ that?
[11:11] <nathan7> nic1: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:11] <nic1> karl0s, with xdesktop, will i be able to run xfce command?
[11:11] <alabd> ActionParsnip: nearst which of them you introduced are non-online ?
[11:11] <nathan7> nic1: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:11] <karl0s> maybe
[11:12] <meanieface> xfce isn't a command
[11:12] <karl0s> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:12] <tehbaut> wow, AWN is really quite buggy
[11:13] <nathan7> tehbaut: Indeed.
[11:13] <ArkoldThos> if you don't want to fill your menu wit many things, just install xfdesktop4
[11:13] <alabd> e.g is there any strategy/RPG game without wrath and war and relate to brain ?
[11:13] <tehbaut> nathan7: any better apps out there that are similar?
[11:13] <alabd> e.g is there any strategy/RPG game without wrath and war and relate to brain ? an non-online
[11:13] <nic1> i ran sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:14] <nic1> now how can i start x desktop instead of gnome?
[11:14] <meanieface> nic1: are you using gdm?
[11:14] <rsk> lougout of gnome, pick xfce instead
[11:14] <rsk> and login
[11:14] <nic1> meanieface, yes
[11:14] <meanieface> nic1: just do what rsk said logout and pick xfce from the dropdown
[11:15] <nic1> ok
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> alabd: silver i meant
[11:15] <alabd> e.g is there any strategy/RPG game without wrath and war and relate to brain ? an non-online ? ActionParsnip
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> alabd: its a pokemon game so no one dies, they just faint
[11:16] <tehbaut> well, the weather app for AWN really is spot-on
[11:16] <tehbaut> just what I was looking for
[11:16] <tehbaut> is it available for use with the standard gnome panels or other docks though?
[11:17] <alabd> ActionParsnip: except that pokemon
[11:17] <frosty840> Hi, I'm booting off a usb stick because mygrub has gone unexpectedly screwy. I'd like to reinstall ubuntu onto the partition it's currently installed on. How do I find out what partition my ubuntu is installed on? I've got sda1-4 here in the installer, and the information doesn't make sense, and I don't trust it. :/
[11:18] <meanieface> frosty840: type in df
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> alabd: sailor moon
[11:19] <nic1> anyone here knows awesome window manager?
[11:19] <alabd> ActionParsnip:  is it thinking game?
[11:19] <erUSUL> frosty840: mount thepartitions of the hards disk and see what is inside ?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> alabd: its alla bout farming
[11:20] <frosty840> The partitions are named, but I don't know how to connect them to these "sda" entries
[11:20] <hsarci_> why is it that when i specificy a port when trying to telnet to a specific address it always defaults to address:port/telnet instead of address:port???
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> hsarci_: i think you need to use: telnet server -p portnumb
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> hsarci_: or simply: telnet server port
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> hsarci_: no need for the colon
[11:23] <Seether1s> does ubuntu have good support for wireless routers?
[11:24] <Seether1s> usb recievers etc?
[11:24] <hsarci> ActionParsnip, thanks
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Seether1s: depends on the chip inside the device
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Seether1s: the router is moot as it will obey ISO standards
[11:27] <Seether1s> d link 635
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Seether1s: means nothing
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Seether1s: can you give the output of: lsusb
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> Seether1s: one line will identify the device
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> Seether1s: dlink 635 is the router as well whci doesnt interest us, as soon as you get your wireless usb workig it will work with ANY router
[11:30] <user_> #linux-novatos
[11:30] <mud_bat1> I have a primary and extended partition /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2.  The extended partition contains 5 logical drives /dev/sda5 through /dev/sda9.  Windows XP is installed on /dev/sda1 and Vista is on /dev/sda5.  I'm having trouble with the grub entries booting into the two windows.  I assume that winxp would be on (hd0,0) and vista would be on (hd0,4) or just counting the partitions it would be the 3rd partition so I tried (hd0,2).  What 
[11:31] <mud_bat1> perhaps I'm trying to reinvent the wheel and all I need to do is type grub> setup?
[11:32] <tehbaut> is there a shortcut to the process monitor?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: could make a shortcut to it on your desktop
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: some people assign ctrl+alt+del to it like in windows
[11:33] <tehbaut> I meant a keyboard shortcut, like ctrl+shift+escape
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> !grub | mud_bat1
[11:33] <user_> neptuno irc-hispano.org
[11:34] <alabd> ActionParsnip:  farming or sx ?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> alabd: sx?
[11:36] <tavasti> is there any command-line tool for disabling services? update-rc.d is not upstart compatible?
[11:37] <alabd> e.g is there any strategy/RPG game without wrath and war and relate to brain ? an non-online ? ActionParsnip except  that pokemon
[11:37] <alabd> and silar moon
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: http://www.ghacks.net/2009/06/09/linux-tips-modify-ctrl-alt-del-behavior/
[11:38] <tehbaut> thanks :)
[11:39] <meanieface> alabd: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=621458
[11:40] <tehbaut> ok, I installed FF3.5 from the Synaptic App Manager and FF is still showing up as v2
[11:41] <LiMatia> can anyone please help me out here?
[11:41] <rsk> tehbaut: try this
[11:41] <erUSUL> !ask | LiMatia
[11:41] <rsk> tehbaut: run firefox-3.5 in a terminal
[11:42] <fcuk112_> tehbaut: cd /usr/bin; sudo rm firefox; sudo ln -s firefox-3.5 firefox.
[11:42] <LiMatia> i updated the laptops manager and when i tried to play videos online i could't
[11:42] <kosmic> why am, i getting choppy sound
[11:43] <kosmic> oss. pulse, alsa
[11:43] <kosmic> all choppyp
[11:43] <pshr_> !oss | kosmic
[11:43] <pshr_> !sound | kosmic
[11:43] <kosmic> why is alsa not default in ubuntu
[11:43] <alabd> meanieface: see there is need game without war and wrath and not to be online and to be thinking game
[11:44] <rsk> kosmic: alsa is default in ubuntu
[11:45] <meanieface> alabd: thinking game as of how?
[11:45] <LiMatia> i can
[11:45] <meanieface> alabd: like puzzles or RTS style?
[11:45] <kosmic> rsk, is that a new setting
[11:45] <kosmic> pulseaudio was default in earlier versions
[11:46] <alabd> what is RTS  meanieface ?
[11:46] <tehbaut> btw, is it possible to get gnome-terminal to remember its window position or size?
[11:46] <rsk> kosmic: no every release of ubuntu has had alsa as default
[11:46] <rsk> kosmic: pulseaudio is ontop of alsa
[11:46] <user_> hola
[11:46] <LiMatia> I mean i can't seem to play videos online, can anyone please tell me what's wrong?
[11:46] <GIR7590> Hey, I recently installed SDL via apt-get, but whenever I try to compile something, it doesn't seem to see the libraries, and it always says "error: <sdl header file> : No such file or directory" (Replacing <sdl header file> with an actual header filename obvoisly)...
[11:46] <kosmic> rsk,  ohb
[11:46] <meanieface> alabd: real time strategy
[11:46] <GIR7590> Any thoughts?
[11:46] <kosmic> rsk, so wht else can be ontop of alsa
[11:46] <OSGUIAnonymous> wow this room is so busy
[11:46] <kosmic> alsa on alsa?
[11:46] <rsk> kosmic: jack, esd
[11:46] <rsk> kosmic: probaly moer things
[11:46] <alabd> meanieface: yes but without war and wrath
[11:47] <GIR7590> Anyone?
[11:47] <rsk> GIR7590: you need the -dev packages
[11:48] <meanieface> alabd: that's kinda tough considering RTS is pretty much about war and stuff
[11:48] <rsk> GIR7590: regular packages don't contain headers
[11:48] <joaopinto> GIR7590, you need the libsdl DEV packages
[11:48] <GIR7590> like sdl-mixer<version>-dev Right?
[11:48] <rsk> maybe, not sure
[11:48] <speed> Hello everyone
[11:49] <GIR7590> Hm, I think that may be my problem with some sections of SDL, but I installed the dev for mixer, and it still didn't detect it... Is there a full bundle for the -dev apckages?
[11:49] <GIR7590> packages*
[11:53] <babak> hi
[11:53] <GIR7590> Hey
[11:53] <n2diy> GIR7590: if your having dependiecy problems with your package manager, it could be a bug, and should be checked, and, or reportede
[11:54] <legend2440> GIR7590: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1154208
[11:54] <GIR7590> Thanks, I'll check that out.
[11:54] <babak> when i type this command   ‫‪hg clone http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/s2-liplianin‬‬  this output appear  bash: ‫‪hg: command not found  what is problem?
[11:55] <n2diy> babak: your not sudo?
[11:55] <thijs_> Ever since i installed some ati catalyst drivers my 8.10 installation won't load any program, because that leads to direct crash. How do i remove them ?
[11:56] <babak> n2diy: yes i use sudo
[11:56] <johann> I am trying to install xubuntu on an old Toshiba. I need to generate custom xorg.conf file through the live CD. I can't install first and modify later since the normal installation ends in a black screen. Anyone have an idea of how to modify the live CD?
[11:56] <n2diy> babak: are you sure hg is installed? What is hg?
[11:57] <Ademan> can anyone explain to me how the gnome menu system works? where is the "structural" information for your menu kept? and I assume that there's a "master" copy of this which is used for new accounts.
[11:57] <Ademan> n2diy: hg is mercurial, a source control system like git or less so, svn or cvs
[11:58] <babak> n2diy: when i type hg this appear http://pastebin.com/m534847b5
[11:58] <Ademan> babak: what are you trying to do?
[11:59] <babak> Ademan: i want use this command  hg clone http://mercurial.intuxication.org/hg/s2-liplianin‬‬
[11:59] <hylman> anyone tried karmic moblin remix yet?
[12:00] <erUSUL> !karmic | hylman
[12:00] <n2diy> babak: the only "problem" I see, is you are logged in as root, why?
[12:00] <Ademan> babak: then just run that command as it is, what exactly isn't working?
[12:00] <Martin_vW> Hello, update-manager on my karmic notebooks hangs after having entered the password. I see in htop that update-manager has a subprocess gksu, and gksu has a sudo subprocess in turn. If I strace this sudo process, it prints only one line "restart_syscall" and hangs. Any ideas on what's going on here?
[12:01] <hylman> I thought karmic moblin = ubuntu moblin remix 9.10
[12:01] <Martin_vW> *notebook
[12:01] <Martin_vW> My main karmic machine is not affected.
[12:01] <hylman> I tried it couple weeks ago, but it was still buggy... just wondering if this has been stable ever since
[12:02] <babak> n2diy: plese see this  http://pastebin.com/m6979dac0
[12:02] <Ademan> Martin_vW: you may want to go to #ubuntu+1
[12:02] <estan> anyone experience printing stopping to work in openoffice with some recent update? it works from gedit/firefox et.c.
[12:02] <charnel> I installed Vim-Gnome and cannot use it in graphical mode when I type vim.gnome I see the standart Vim in conseol
[12:02] <Ademan> estan: it doesn't print on tuesday :-p
[12:03] <MenZa> charnel: Try "gvim"
[12:03] <GIR7590> I think I found my problem, looks like there isn't just a universal repo for all versions of Ubuntu, I am currently using Hardy Heron, and it isn't updating SDL to the extent that is needed by the source I am trying to compile, does anyone know if (If possible) I could update my repos so they use a newer version of Ubuntu's repos?
[12:03] <estan> i've tried restarting cups and the printer, and /var/log/cups/* doesn't show anything special.
[12:03] <estan> Ademan: :)
[12:03] <babak> Ademan: when i type that command this error show http://pastebin.com/m6979dac0
[12:03] <iceroot> is it allowed to use 00 in cron instead of 0? something like 00 23 * * * sh foo.sh
[12:03] <charnel> MenZa: Solved thank you
[12:03] <GIR7590> I would upgrade, but I really don't feel like partitioning, or restarting from scratch on this system...
[12:03] <MenZa> charnel: Welcome.
[12:04] <estan> Ademan: dude you weren't kidding?!
[12:04] <estan> i don't have a brother printer though, it's a HP laserjet.
[12:04] <Ademan> babak: look at your command, there are two things &#8236;&#8236; at the end of your command, those weren't in the command you showed me, and they look like they shouldn't be there, try removing them when you run the command
[12:04] <Ademan> estan: haha yeah i was mostly joking, it's such an embarassing bug i'm sure it's fixed by now
[12:05] <estan> Ademan: well it's tuesday and it's worked before..
[12:05] <GIR7590> Any ideas anyone? :\
[12:06] <Ademan> GIR7590: what are you trying to build? and you can always do a dist-upgrade, but I've successfully added newer repositories, installed newer packages (from jaunty into my intrepid install) then disabled the newer repos
[12:06] <Ademan> GIR7590: also it seems terribly risky, so i'm not saying "do it" but just that it worked for me ;-)
[12:06] <thijs_> Ever since i installed some ati catalyst drivers my 8.10 installation won't load any program, because that leads to direct crash. How do i remove them ?
[12:06] <GIR7590> I am trying to build a little program called EDuke32, it requires newer SDL libraries than what I currently have...
[12:07] <Ademan> GIR7590: hah, i was building that a while ago
[12:07] <c4pt> mgolisch: ive spent the last 4 or 5 or 6 hrs editing the edid hex with a calculator and the wiki entries for what the byte positions means nothing works at all and i have observed i can only do twin view successfully when using ¨nv¨ instead of ¨nvidia¨ for the driver so i guess this meanings i am basically screwed to get compiz working and other stuff etc etc etc
[12:07] <Ademan> GIR7590: even when it did build for me it got stuck in an infinite loop soon after starting
[12:07] <hylman> so nobody tried ubuntu moblin remix yet
[12:07] <c4pt> mgolisch: :( :(
[12:08] <Ademan> GIR7590: er, that was after i fixed one error in the source code to make it not segfault :-/ lol
[12:08] <GIR7590> Ademan: Sounds like you had fun. :o
[12:08] <rsk> GIR7590: looked at? http://wiki.eduke32.com/wiki/Building_EDuke32_on_Linux
[12:08] <GIR7590> Yeah.
[12:08] <rapha1> hi!
[12:08] <c4pt> mgolisch: no matter what the hell i do with the ¨nvidia¨ driver it forces into 1280x1024 where as the `nv` driver just works.
[12:08] <rsk> GIR7590: gotten in contact with upstream?
[12:08] <GIR7590> But my problem is with SDL, not nessecarilly EDUke32.
[12:09] <GIR7590> upstream?
[12:09] <rsk> upstream = people who play with eduke32 source
[12:09] <rapha1> how can you create a ubuntu USB drive with a persistent home dir?
[12:09] <GIR7590> Oh, yeah...
[12:09] <Ademan> GIR7590: how do you know you need a newer version of SDL? it's been pretty stagnant, SDL 2.0 got permanently put on hold
[12:09] <deepblue69uk> Can anyone tell me the best way to backup your installed packages?
[12:10] <rsk> deepblue69uk: what's the intention of the backup?
[12:10] <deepblue69uk> I'm using Xubuntu and Linux Mint
[12:10] <legend2440> thijs_: in terminal try aticonfig --help i think there is a uninstall switch
[12:10] <rapha1> can you hear me?
[12:10] <rsk> rapha1: no
[12:10] <rapha1> what a stupid answer
[12:10] <deepblue69uk> so I don't have to download them again if I need to re-install.
[12:10] <GIR7590> Ademan: http://pastebin.com/d2125aac7
[12:10] <GIR7590> It was pretty obvious. :o
[12:10] <rsk> deepblue69uk: put then on whatever media then. dosen't matter.
[12:10] <deepblue69uk> :P
[12:10] <rsk> them*
[12:10] <GIR7590> I missed it, and assumed other problems
[12:11] <rapha1> i just want to know if anybody can help me what to search for on google to get usb disk with ubuntu and persistent home directory?
[12:11] <aMuleAduGuest824> hi guys
[12:11] <deepblue69uk> ok....where are they located though...cos I always forget.
[12:11] <aMuleAduGuest824> i need help
[12:11] <aMuleAduGuest824> i'm a new users of ubuntu s.o.
[12:11] <Mital> hey guys... i am getting some problem in automake... can anybody help me..
[12:11] <aMuleAduGuest824> can anyone help me
[12:11] <Ademan> GIR7590: that's confusing to me, first it says it doesn't have SDL_mixer.h then it says it's too old... forgive me for asking but you *do* have libsdl1.2-mixer-dev installed right? (package name not quite accurate)
[12:11] <hylman> anybody can help me with compiling source... autoconf returns the following error message: "configure.ac:4: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE
[12:11] <hylman>       If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
[12:11] <hylman>       See the Autoconf documentation"
[12:12] <Ademan> Mital: everyone has problems with automake
[12:12] <rsk> hylman: what's the application?
[12:12] <GIR7590> Ademan: Yes I do.
[12:12] <rsk> er... Mital
[12:12] <hylman> connman
[12:12] <Heckel> i'm trying to install skype on ubuntu with console
[12:12] <n2diy> deepblue69uk: we are on a similiar mission, I'm running xubuntu, too. The best solution I have, is to create a "synaptic_list" file, every time  I run synaptic, I open the file, make my changes, save to the file, and then apply the changes. It won't back up your system, but all your synaptic additions are in one place.
[12:12] <Mital> Ademan: yeah... its not generating the .in files
[12:12] <hsarci> is virtual box beteter than wine????
[12:13] <Heckel>  but the system doesn't find it
[12:13] <thijs_> legend2440, no there's no uninstall option
[12:13] <hylman> it only has configure.ac, so I'm using autoconf... but with no luck
[12:13] <GIR7590> Ademan: I installed them just recently... I guess that's not the problem huh?
[12:13] <indus> Heckel: sudo dpkg -i skype
[12:13] <erUSUL> hylman: do you have build-essential installed ?
[12:13] <Heckel> thank's
[12:13] <meanieface> rapha1: you mean something like this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1097888
[12:13] <indus> Heckel: thats probably because skype is on the desktop
[12:13]  * rapha1 reads
[12:13] <indus> Heckel: in a terminal do cd Desktop then try command
[12:13] <rsk> hsarci: they are different things.
[12:13] <Mital> Ademan: not generating Makefile.in files and not even giving any error
[12:13] <Ademan> GIR7590: hrm, i wonder how they've decided SDL_mixer is too old... anyways if you're feeling brave you can change your repositories to point to intrepid and update your SDL dev files, and then change your repositories back
[12:13] <rsk> hsarci: what do you want vbox or wine for?
[12:14] <rapha1> meanieface: w/o the truecrypt, but yeah! - thanks for the link!
[12:14] <Heckel> it doesn't work that
[12:14] <meanieface> rapha1: no prob
[12:14] <hylman> erUSUL: I'm not running it in my ubuntu box... but moblin instead...
[12:14] <deepblue69uk> a virtualised Windows install will offer better compatibility I would think
[12:14] <Heckel> i wrote sudo dpkg -i skype but makes error ask for in stall
[12:14] <Ademan> Mital: huh... is this for some Makefile.am and such that you've written?
[12:14] <GIR7590> Ademan: How do you do that? I've played around with the repos a bit before, and I had to fix them the first time around. :o
[12:14] <Heckel> indus can i open a pvt chat room with u
[12:14] <indus> Heckel: type sudo dpkg -i press tab after typing skype
[12:14] <deepblue69uk> However, you'd need a pretty fast machine to make up for the lack of speed in a virtual machine
[12:15] <hsarci> rsk, ive got applications that need to interface with my serial port that dont work with wine
[12:15] <deepblue69uk> So with Wine, you'd get the best performance
[12:15] <indus> Heckel: no :) thats reserved for women only
[12:15] <Heckel> ok
[12:15] <kosmic> sound is still choppy sometimes
[12:16] <indus> Heckel: is skype on your desktop?
[12:16] <Ademan> GIR7590: basically replace every 'hardy' in /etc/apt/sources.list with 'intrepid' but again it's a bit risky i guess (i dunno, worked for me, but i don't want to say "it'll definitely work")
[12:16] <r3za> nathan7: hey , r u there , i got this error when i use command ( APTONCD ) : http://pastebin.com/d404d3f97
[12:16] <kosmic> it wasnt like this on my previous buntu nstall
[12:16] <kosmic> isntall
[12:16] <indus> Heckel: in linux, you can autocomplete package name with tab
[12:16] <rsk> hsarci: how do they fail?
[12:16] <indus> !tab
[12:16] <GIR7590> Ademan: Thanks, I'll try that... I'll first back up stuff though. :p
[12:16] <Heckel> and can anyone help me with the webcam and the monitor mic of my acer doesn't work with ubuntu
[12:16] <Ademan> GIR7590: definitely! good luck...
[12:16] <hsarci> rsk, it just doesn't work....it doesn't see the device
[12:17] <rsk> hsarci: then virtualbox won't help
[12:17] <nathan7> r3za: Hmm'
[12:17] <marcus__> ufw
[12:17] <Ademan> GIR7590: also any reason why you don't just upgrade to intrepid altogether?
[12:17] <rsk> hsarci: virtualbox nor wine provies configuration that makes the underlying system work
[12:17] <Heckel> if i download the site version of skype for linux is it ok
[12:17] <Ademan> GIR7590: it'd probably be less risky
[12:17] <hsarci> rsk, ok thanks
[12:17] <rsk> hsarci: you need to fix it in linux before you can use it in wine or vbox
[12:17] <nathan7> r3za: Strange, very strange.
[12:17] <dreamy> doens anyone knows this error ? from transmission -- fproblem connecting to tracker -- http error 404 not found
[12:18] <r3za> nathan7: that mean i have a lot of file ?
[12:18] <nathan7> r3za: Sec, lemme fetch aptoncd
[12:19] <meanieface> dreamy: a stale torrent maybe?
[12:19] <dreamy> meanieface:  ive tryed several.. different sorts of files (torrents)
[12:20] <dreamy> but whats .. stale ?
[12:20] <nathan7> dreamy: No seeders.
[12:20] <meanieface> dreamy: not active anymore per se
[12:20] <Mital> Ademan: yeah... I am using configure.in ... and added macro AC_OUTPUT(Makefile bin/Makefile) do I need to specify anything else ?
[12:20] <dreamy> ok
[12:20] <r3za> nathan7: what ? sorry i cant understand english well ..
[12:20] <dreamy> however ive tryed several files.//
[12:20] <nathan7> r3za: I'm researching for you.,
[12:20] <r3za> nathan7: wow , thanks
[12:20] <dreamy> and on my other PC... here aside me.. i started downloading the file
[12:21] <meanieface> dreamy: how are you downloading the torrents?
[12:21] <Ademan> Mital: honestly i always avoided autotools like the plague, so much that I actually wrote my own build system... you might have better luck getting help in another channel (not sure which though)  but before you do, have you considered trying out scons or cmake?
[12:21] <dreamy> just clicking on the dialog boxes. and using transmission
[12:21] <nathan7> r3za: I think you need something after -l
[12:21] <nathan7> r3za:        -l, --cache-dir=PATH
[12:21] <GIR7590> Ademan: It worked! Now I have fully functiional intrepid repos... \o/
[12:21] <nathan7> r3za:               Uses PATH as apt cache dir (instead of /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:22] <GIR7590> Now to work on EDuke32.
[12:22] <Ademan> GIR7590: nice! good luck
[12:22] <meanieface> dreamy: but i mean from the net, are you downloading them to your comp first
[12:22] <meanieface> dreamy: or are you just letting transmission open them from the web browser
[12:22] <r3za> nathan7: no , i move all package from /var/cache/apt/archives to other folder ..
[12:22] <dreamy> yes.. from a web page
[12:22] <meanieface> dreamy: download the torrent file
[12:22] <nathan7> r3za: -What is /media/Other/Linux/Package/last/archives?
[12:22] <Mital> Ademan: I have not tried scons ... not a python freak... but do u think its easier to learn those tools than writing in makefiles ?
[12:22] <meanieface> dreamy: then open it
[12:22] <nathan7> r3za: Is it a file
[12:23] <nathan7> r3za: or a directory?
[12:23] <GIR7590> Ademan: I now have 728 updates. :p
[12:23] <dreamy> k ill try it :)
[12:23] <r3za> nathan7: directory
[12:23] <kosmic> rsk, okay, you want to hear how i solved the choppy sound issue
[12:23] <dreamy> ty
[12:23] <rsk> nope :p
[12:23] <kosmic> i ran `modeprobe -r ath5k`
[12:23] <kosmic> ath5k is broken r something
[12:24] <kosmic> `ath5k phy0: noise floor calibration time out (2412MHz)`
[12:24] <kosmic> that shows up all the time in dmesh
[12:24] <kosmic> dmesg
[12:24] <dreamy> meanieface: it worked
[12:24] <nathan7> r3za: aptoncd -l /media/Other/Linux/Package/last/archives?
[12:24] <nathan7> r3za: =)
[12:25] <meanieface> dreamy: i had that problem before
[12:25] <dreamy> k
[12:25] <kosmic> where is the ubuntu dev channel
[12:25] <marcus`> hi, i have a creative xfi (i know i know) with 9.04 and i had to manually compile the latest alsa drivers from source to get sound... my problem is it doesn't seem to play well with pulseaudio. for instance i installed ventrilo in wine and set it all up but the only way i could use mic was completely removing pulseaudio from system, my question is are there any workarounds to this?
[12:25] <r3za> nathan7: -p no -l
[12:25] <n2diy> kosmic: #ubuntu-kernel?
[12:25] <r3za> nathan7: i write this : reza@Reza-PC:~$ aptoncd -p /media/Other/Linux/Package/Last/archives -l
[12:25] <kosmic> let me try that
[12:26] <Ademan> Mital: CMake and SCons are both very nice, and autotools are very old and crappy.  However autotools is more widespread, but honestly these days unless you want to deploy to hpux, you're fine with scons or cmake
[12:27] <hsarci> is there a good partition manager available that can handle resizing well?
[12:28] <n2diy> hsarci: gparted.
[12:28] <hsarci> thanks
[12:29] <shawn_> How can I get gmail to work with IMAP?
[12:29] <marcus`> shawn
[12:29] <marcus`> what client?
[12:30] <shawn_> marcus`, Thunderbird
[12:30] <marcus`> sec
[12:31] <marcus`> first make sure you enabled IMAP In your gmail settings: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=77695
[12:31] <marcus`> then do this: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=77662
[12:31] <marcus`> probably have to use the edit menu instead of tools since that is for windows but it's the same process ;p
[12:32] <marcus`> hi all, i have a creative xfi (i know i know) with 9.04 and i had to manually compile the latest alsa drivers from source to get sound... my problem is it doesn't seem to play well with pulseaudio. for instance i installed ventrilo in wine and set it all up but the only way i could use mic was completely removing pulseaudio from system, my question is are there any workarounds to this?
[12:32] <KriSztiAN> guys plz a little halp!
[12:33] <KriSztiAN> how can i config my ubuntu?
[12:33] <meanieface> marcus`: have you tried putting pulseaudio on the backburner?
[12:33] <dreamy> meanieface: but theres not particular reazon for it to stop working.. for no purpose?
[12:33] <KriSztiAN> it doesnt see my NIC
[12:33] <shawn_> KriSztiAN, Config it for what?
[12:33] <KriSztiAN> and i dont haven a IP adress
[12:33] <tehbaut> arg, FF 3.5 keeps crashing and it still has the minefield icon! wt..?
[12:33] <meanieface> dreamy: i don't really use transmission i use rtorrent, so i download the torrents anyway
[12:33] <rezd> KriSztiAN, more information is needed.
[12:33] <shawn_> KriSztiAN, In the terminal type lspci.,.. Is it showing there?
[12:34] <dreamy> meanieface: ok ;)
[12:34] <rezd> Which network are you try to connect to, internal LAN or Internet?
[12:34] <shawn_> KriSztiAN, lspci -a
[12:34] <marcus`> meanieface how do i do that?
[12:34] <meanieface> marcus`: hold on
[12:34] <marcus`> thanks
[12:34] <tehbaut> why is FF 3.5 running as shiretoko?
[12:34] <shawn_> KriSztiAN, Did you just install this card?
[12:34] <KriSztiAN> a lots of Wmvare thigs
[12:35] <krzd_> hi, i have got some problem with usb_modeswitch and my UMTS stick, wich I really need. If anyone can help, please find the error message with more detailed problem description on http://paste.frubar.net/11261 . Thanks in advance
[12:35] <meanieface> marcus`: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/ubuntu-904-jaunty-keeping-the-beast-pulseaudio-at-bay/
[12:35] <KriSztiAN> i dont know... this is a copied wmware thing
[12:35] <meanieface> marcus`: this does work as i had to do it to get some progs to work
[12:36] <mohan1> Hi friends Can we do voice chat with kopete?
[12:36] <shawn_> KriSztiAN, I cant help if you dont give more information... Does the network adapter display in lspci?
[12:36] <marcus`> meanieface: do you know if this will also work in karmic?
[12:36] <marcus`> because i tried karmic beta
[12:36] <meanieface> marcus`: no im sorry, i haven't installed karmic
[12:36] <marcus`> and it seems t ouse pulseaudio for everything
[12:36] <marcus`> ok, thanks
[12:36] <KriSztiAN> yeah i think so
[12:37] <nic1> what is the file where i can check what possible sessions i have to choose from during my login?
[12:37] <r3za> nathan7: how do i fix this?
[12:38] <indus> mohan1: no
[12:38] <indus> mohan1: use skype
[12:38] <mohan1> thank you
[12:38] <indus> mohan1: webcam is supported in kopete
[12:38] <mohan1> okay.
[12:38] <Flasbang73> is there a specific channel for karmic or can i get help here?
[12:39] <shawn_> KriSztiAN, Did you just install this card or what?
[12:39] <krzd_> Flasbank73: join #ubuntu+1
[12:39] <meanieface> Flasbang73: #ubuntu+1
[12:39] <indus> Flasbang73: #ubuntu+1
[12:39] <TheKro> I'm having trouble with rsync: it keeps transferring the whole directory structure (25Gigs), isntead of just the files that have changed
[12:40] <KriSztiAN> i dont know... ijust start the ubuntu server... and the "install aptitude mc" dont work
[12:40] <shawn_> Alright you may need to configure your network settings then
[12:40] <n2diy> Flasbang73, Curious, where in Pa are you? I'm in Carbon County.
[12:40] <meanieface> KriSztiAN: what are you trying to do?
[12:40] <TheKro> Command I'm executing is: "sudo rsync -av --delete --exclude-from '/home/skroon/misc/personal/backups/mania-spider-excludes.txt' /home/skroon/ mania_bak/linux/"
[12:40] <shawn_> KriSztiAN, type this "sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces"
[12:40] <KriSztiAN> the teacher said it has a hard thing to do
[12:40] <TheKro> ./mania_bak/linux is on a Windows samba share
[12:40] <gamerx> !ot | gamerx
[12:41] <nic1> what is the file where i can check what possible sessions i have to choose from during my login?
[12:41] <rezd> KriSztiAN: it seems you are running Ubuntu from a VMWare virtual machine, is that correct?
 is just want to install some programs
[12:41] <KriSztiAN> yes it is
[12:41] <n2diy> ! boot
[12:41] <nic1> where can i see session manager?
[12:41] <shawn_> rezd, Oh he is? My mistake >.>
[12:42] <shawn_> KriSztiAN, Sorry I didnt realise you were doing this from a Virtual Machien
[12:42] <shawn_> KriSztiAN, I was reading wrong
[12:42] <rezd> /msg shawn_ he is not very clear. :-)
[12:42] <n2diy> nicl, see the message from ubottu?
[12:42] <shawn_> rezd, :)
[12:42] <mo0nykit> Hi! I forgot to compile uvcvideo for my custom kernel. Now I can't use my webcam. How do I compile a particular module (and other needed drivers) so I can then load it using modprobe?
[12:42] <meanieface> KriSztiAN: what programs you want midnight commander?
[12:43] <meanieface> KriSztiAN: i'm sorry i haven't been following everything but i saw mc
[12:44] <KriSztiAN> listen ... i just trying to install MC and it seems i dont have a NIC
[12:44] <KriSztiAN> all this in wmvare
[12:44] <iceroot> how to print the contet from all vars which are starting with backup? something like echo $backup*
[12:45] <tehbaut> didn't ubuntu 8.xx support the win+D combo to show the desktop?
[12:45] <n2diy> ! pipes | iceroot
[12:46] <meanieface> KriSztiAN: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-512978.html
[12:46] <meanieface> KriSztiAN: that should help you
[12:46] <n2diy> ! redirection | iceroot
[12:46] <rezd> Oh dear I am using Empathy to test and it doesn't let me do some things.
[12:46] <iceroot> n2diy: you have a direct anwser? maybe an example?
[12:47]  * rezd sticks foot in mouth
[12:47] <n2diy> iceroot, no, I'm fishing, with out much luck!
[12:47] <KriSztiAN> thx i fixed
[12:47] <KriSztiAN> i jsut configure my wirtal NIC card in wmvare
[12:48] <meanieface> KriSztiAN: nice
[12:48] <n2diy> iceroot, but piping, and/or redirection should get you started?
[12:49] <iceroot> n2diy: hm piping? something like cat foo | grep bar?
[12:50] <n2diy> iceroot, not sure, might be more like cat foo > grep bar?
[12:50] <iceroot> n2diy: no
[12:52] <resno_> hey guys, i am installing karmac koala and id say, its looking more polished then ever before!
[12:52] <resno_> actaully, karmic
[12:52] <n2diy> iceroot, ok, try researching output redirection, I think that is what you'r looking for?
[12:52] <rh2>  hey all , im about to throw my laptop through the window so please don't let me do it i need to change spell checker from english to spanish to correct grammar mistakes and can't do it tools/options/writing aids i change it to spanish and nothing why ??
[12:52] <iceroot> n2diy: i dont think so, i am just searching for wildcards for var-names
[12:53] <iceroot> n2diy: or regex
[12:53] <rh2> oppenoffice 3.0.1
[12:53] <n2diy> iceroot, ok, I thought you where trying to save the results to a file?
[12:53] <albasheers1> hi i am using ubuntu 8.10 ,  I have  inserted edubuntu   addon cd 9.04, after that add /remove application started then I removed that cd now I am getting this  whenever I treid to update "not all updates can be installed " how to fix this
[12:53] <ziroday> rh2: one sec
[12:54] <iceroot> n2diy: no
[12:54] <roflparrot_> how can i tell whether an alternate installer is server or desktop edition?
[12:54] <meanieface> albasheers1: type in sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:55] <iceroot> how to use grep to find all matching for backup/ but not for foo_backup/   something like grep backup/  but only matching all strings STARTING with backup
[12:55] <nic1> how to create an init script on ubuntu?
[12:55] <n2diy> roflparrot_: does the help menu tell you?
[12:55] <gartral> how do i tell what's making my hdd crazy?
[12:55] <Gnea> nic1: model it after the skeleton file
[12:55] <indus> roflparrot_: the name of the iso might unless u changed name
[12:56] <Hajex> python 2.5  in my system (ubuntu garrdy 8.04) couldnt detect package each time I write (import) error message is displayed (no module ) .. even Tkinter
[12:56] <Hajex> .. where is the problem?
[12:56] <ziroday> rh2: select all the text, Tools > Language > For Selection > Spanish
[12:56] <n2diy> gartral: run "top" in a terminal.
[12:56] <albasheers1> meanieface: it is saying  0 upgraded 0 removed
[12:56] <nic1> Gnea, what is modeling and what is skeleton file?
[12:56] <roflparrot_> sorry n2diy I mean from the download page http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[12:56] <meanieface> albasheers1: try sudo apt-get purge
[12:56] <Gnea> nic1: do you know where initscripts are kept?
[12:56] <nic1> in /etc/
[12:56] <roflparrot_> they say either desktop, server, or alternate
[12:56] <rh2> fu...g AAA thank you !
[12:56] <iceroot> Gnea: /etc/init.d/
[12:56] <Gnea> nic1: they are?
[12:56] <nic1> yeah
[12:56] <roflparrot_> I want alternate Desktop
[12:56] <albasheers1> meanieface: same thing
[12:57] <Gnea> nic1: I disagree.
[12:57] <meanieface> albasheers1: hmm
[12:57] <luist> hey.. im trying to configure my NIS client, but im still missing something... im supposed to use the login from anoter machine.... id luist recognizes this login (its not created locally, but mounted - nfs) but i cant really login directly using it... can anyone help me?
[12:57] <rh2> ziroday: 10x beers
[12:57] <ziroday> rh2: have fun
[12:57] <Gnea> nic1: [06:56] <iceroot> Gnea: /etc/init.d/
[12:57] <rh2> ziroday: thanks
[12:58] <n2diy> roflparrot_: scroll down half a page, the servers are there.
[12:58] <Gnea> nic1: so you should read the skeleton file there, for starters
[12:58] <lesshaste> I am trying to play http://mfile.akamai.com/15525/wmv/webcast.ucdavis.edu/Engineering/2007/ECS/ECS222A/ECS222A_10-1-07.asx . Firefox very nicely asks if it can look for suitable plugins and then fails to find one
[12:58] <nic1> Gnea, ok so if i need to add anything to init, then i need to place the script here??
[12:58] <lesshaste> what should I do?
[12:58] <roflparrot_> mmmm and up the top are the desktops
[12:58] <Gnea> nic1: well, you need to make sure the script is written correctly. the skeleton file is your key.
[12:59] <roflparrot_> and then there's alternate...
[12:59] <albasheers1>  i am using ubuntu 8.10 ,  I have  inserted edubuntu   addon cd 9.04, after that add /remove application started then I removed that cd now I am getting this  whenever I treid to update "not all updates can be installed " how to fix this
[12:59] <ziroday> lesshaste: I would recommend downloading the file and then attempting to play it with VLC or something similar
[12:59] <lesshaste> do I need the bad and ugly gstreamer plugins?
[12:59] <ziroday> albasheers1: in a terminal do sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[12:59] <Gnea> nic1: from there, you need to make it so the system knows to run it on bootup and shutdown using the update-rc.d command
[12:59] <lesshaste> the exact error message is The requested plugins are:
[12:59] <lesshaste> Microsoft Media Server (MMS) protocol source
[13:00] <nic1> ok..what does this comment line mean? # /etc/rc.d/slim: start/stop slim
[13:00] <iceroot> nic1: its a comment
[13:00] <iceroot> nic1: because of the #
[13:00] <albasheers1> ziroday: will this command upgrade my ubuntu to 9.04
[13:00] <ziroday> lesshaste: I have a feeling you'll find you can only use a windows machine to play that file, but give it a try with VLC
[13:00] <Gnea> nic1: it's a comment, it doesn't get executed
[13:01] <ziroday> albasheers1: possibly, by mixing repositories you can seriously break your machine
[13:01] <nic1> that's a comment but y did they tell the path, /etc/rc.d......??
[13:01] <luist> how can i make a route permanent? I added it with: route add -net 192.168.10.0/24 gw 192.168.0.1
[13:02] <Gnea> nic1: probably a really old comment
[13:02] <albasheers1> ziroday:I don't want to upgrade my ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 , is there any other way
[13:02] <lesshaste> ziroday, hmm
[13:02] <bazhang> albasheers1, you just want to edubuntu to intrepid?
[13:02] <ziroday> albasheers1: no, this is what happens when you mix different version of ubuntu repositories
[13:02] <Gnea> !upgrade | albasheers1
[13:02] <nic1> it's explaining i need to place the script in some rc.d in etc..but there are many rcX.d
[13:02] <bazhang> albasheers1, add edubuntu to intrepid?
[13:03] <nic1> in whichone do i need top ut?
[13:03] <Gnea> nic1: again, this is what update-rc.d is for
[13:03] <ziroday> bazhang: no, he's installed stuff from the jaunty edubuntu cd onto his intrepid install, and now apt is complaining
[13:03] <Gnea> nic1: the script only goes in /etc/init.d/
[13:03] <bazhang> ziroday, thanks
[13:03] <Gnea> nic1: the rcX.d/ directories get symlinked to init.d/
[13:04] <roflparrot_> If I choose ubuntu-9.10-beta-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent, am i going to get a server edition?
[13:04] <nic1> Gnea, thank you
[13:04] <marcus`> no rofl
[13:04] <roflparrot_> excellent
[13:04] <nic1> one more questio, with what name do i need to create the script?
[13:04] <roflparrot_> because I downloaded that one, but at the time it was obvious what i was getting
[13:04] <meanieface> albasheers1: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+question/61692
[13:04] <Gnea> nic1: depends what it's for
[13:05] <nic1> i mean, is that upto me? or same as the package i installed? it's a display manager
[13:05] <rezd> roflparrot: you should get the alternate iso used for text installs and adding RAID or LVM.
[13:05] <Gnea> nic1: it should reflect what it's running
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> roflparrot_: no, just the laternate desktop installer
[13:05] <joaopinto> !karmic | roflparrot_
[13:06] <roflparrot_> cool. I have the alternate server installer already. I just wanted to make sure I didn't get it again. i ahvea  data limit
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> roflparrot_: then use the net installer, you will instal the OS from the repos, saves having to install a snapshot then upgrade from the repos
[13:07] <nic1> gnea, what is the significance of init.d contents?
[13:07] <tame> i have copied a .ttf to every folder in my system imaginable (~/.fonts, /usr/share/fonts, /usr/share/fonts/some_directory, /usr/share/fonts/truetype etc..) and run fc-cache -vf but STILL, they do not show up in open office. WHAT GIVES?
[13:08] <roflparrot_> ActionParsnip: I have a 3g modem, which would be a pain to configure to do that without a desktop
[13:08] <Gnea> nic1: I don't understand your question...
[13:08] <Gnea> !init | nic1
[13:08] <rezd> rofl_: AFAIAA, there are three type of ISO images (excluding remix and processor variations): server, desktop and alternative
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> roflparrot_: it'll use less data which you said is a premium
[13:08] <marcus`> does anyone know if there are any repercussions to installing ubuntustudio audio video grapics meta packages inside regular ubuntu? i think it also installs the realtime kernel, so.. im wondering if this would break my system
[13:08] <roflparrot_> yeah... it'd use pretty much no data
[13:09] <roflparrot_> anyway thanks for you help
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> marcus`: could try it, you can always remove it if its bad
[13:10] <marcus`> heh, i dunno, i'm kinda not wanting to try stuff atm, just want to know if anyone did it successfully
[13:10] <n2diy> roflparrot_, the command line is your friend, don't shun it.
[13:10] <bazhang> marcus`, you want the whole ubuntustudio suite? ubuntustudio-desktop is the package then
[13:11] <Theexperts> cannot install ubuntu 8.04 because of an initramfs error/problem. can any one help :?
[13:11] <marcus`> well from what i understand that'll turn my ubuntu into ubuntustudio basically
[13:11] <marcus`> i just want the choice to use the rt kernel with the packages available in studio
[13:11] <n2diy> Theexperts: sounds like a bad CD burn?
[13:11] <psycho_oreos> is there a way to specify gtkpod to not use xmms as xmms no longer exist?
[13:11] <bazhang> marcus`, you can boot into gnome and use the apps, better most likely with the -rt kernel depending on your needs
[13:12] <frogzoo> marcus`: I thought the stock kernel was as near as damn rt as is
[13:12] <marcus`> yeah the audio metapackage selects the rt kernel afaik
[13:12] <meanieface> Theexperts: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=767154
[13:12] <Theexperts> n2diy: no its image file i want to install in VMWare i used this image file more than 5 times
[13:12] <iceroot> how to get all set variables with a command?
[13:12] <marcus`> im not really sure about that stuff frog
[13:12] <frogzoo> iceroot: env
[13:12] <Gnea> iceroot: set
[13:12] <marcus`> ive only really been using linux for a couple months now
[13:13] <c4pt> mgolisch: :(
[13:13] <marcus`> i learn fast but, heh.
[13:13] <iceroot> frogzoo: thx
[13:13] <sancsengo> hi
[13:13] <frogzoo> cheers
[13:13] <iceroot> Gnea: i like the output from env more :)
[13:13] <Gnea> iceroot: ah, I see
[13:13] <n2diy> Theexperts: ok, there is no standard for writing and reading CDs, so what worked on one machine might not work on another.
[13:14] <meanieface> n2diy: why wouldn't it?
[13:14] <meowmintx> anyone know if ubuntu 10 is full release yet
[13:14] <nic1> Gnea, i actually copied the init script for one display manager, will i  be able to see that displace manager during login session now?
[13:14] <Theexperts> ok
[13:14] <marcus`> meowmintx,  not yet
[13:14] <marcus`> it's still beta
[13:14] <rsk> !karmic | meowmintx
[13:14] <n2diy> Theexperts: ok, there is no standard.
[13:15] <Gnea> nic1: okay, so did you edit it?
[13:15] <nic1> Gnea, yes i have created slim script in init.d
[13:15] <iceroot> n2diy: there is no cd-Standard?
[13:15] <Theexperts> n2diy: what i have to do
[13:15] <meowmintx> ok i see that there are a few different downloads of ubuntu 9
[13:15] <iceroot> n2diy: look at the ISO-definition
[13:15] <nic1> and rebooting the machine, will be able to see new display manager during login sessions??
[13:15] <Degot> Hi,ALL.. I have 2nd level domain and PC with public IP and BIND9 (Ubuntu 9.04 amd64)... I want that 3rd level domains (www.domain.com , test.domain.com) will be located at BIND9... How to configure BIND?
[13:15] <rsk> meowmintx: yes there is 9.04 and 9.10 BETA.
[13:16] <Gnea> nic1: okay, now you need to use the update-rc.d command to remove gdm or whatever the current dm is, and use update-rc.d again to allow slim to be the dm
[13:16] <meowmintx> no i mean ubuntu 9 alternitave, ubuntu 9 desktop etc
[13:16] <n2diy> iceroot: I'd like to, can you point me to it?
[13:16] <meowmintx> what the differance
[13:16] <bulan_lucu> hi
[13:16] <exodus_ms> problem with 9.04 64bit. I boot up system, cpu(s) running ~60% with no apps running and the top gnome-panel is blinking on and off
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> meowmintx: those have always been around, in the previos releases
[13:16] <iceroot> n2diy: google
[13:17] <rsk> meowmintx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation%20using%20the%20Alternate%20CD
[13:17] <meanieface> lol
[13:17] <iceroot> n2diy: also, iso-defintions are not free (as in free bear)
[13:17] <rsk> meowmintx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicalInstall
[13:17] <meowmintx> i'm new what the differnce
[13:17] <c4pt> ActionParsnip: yo
[13:17] <iceroot> n2diy: but of course there is a standard (called red-book for e.g.)
[13:17] <rsk> meowmintx: look at thoose links
[13:17] <nic1> Gnea, update-rc.d is asking me for an option
[13:17] <Gnea> nic1: so follow the directions
[13:17] <n2diy> iceroot: ok, I thought you had it handy, and I'm not interested in free bears! :)
[13:17] <meanieface> n2diy: if he said it worked 5 times before wouldn't that be the machines fault and not the cd?
[13:18] <nic1> Gnea, what directions?
[13:18] <Gnea> nic1: it asks you for an option. see what the option is for and how to use it.
[13:18] <emmanueld> hello, I currently have a problem while trying to setup my wired network connection up on my freshly installed Ubuntu 9.10 beta - NetworkManageris crashing, and as a consequence refure to 1) set up the connection 2) remember the settings I put
[13:18] <emmanueld> did someone has the same issue ?
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> !9.10 | emmanueld
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> nic1:  as a quick and dirty way - you could just start slim from rc.local :)
[13:18] <n2diy> meanieface: no, I have CDs that work/verify on one machine, and fail on another, it is a PITA
[13:19] <meanieface> n2diy: but what im saying is, i think thats a hardware issue not a cd issue
[13:19] <Gnea> Dr_Willis: why attempt to undo that which is mostly already done? :)
[13:20] <iceroot> n2diy: that is because of a bad burner/reader
[13:20] <iceroot> n2diy: but nothing about cd-standard
[13:20] <david__> help, every time I try to dual screen on ubuntu 9.10 it crashes
[13:20] <n2diy> meanieface: could be, put the CD burner in the target box, and see if it can read the CD there?
[13:20] <meanieface> iceroot: exactly
[13:20] <nic1> Dr_Willis, what is rc.local?
[13:20] <exodus_ms> I've tried metacity --replace but the top panel is still blinking on and off and system is still running ~60%. I have also disabled devilspie and conky
[13:20] <iceroot> meanieface: yes, of course
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> !9.10 | david__
[13:20] <meanieface> n2diy: im not having the issue
[13:21] <david__> ActionParsnip: i know=P
[13:21] <nic1> Gnea, i will post my init script in pastebin, can you please tell me what update-rc command do i need to run exactly?
[13:21] <n2diy> meanieface: but, you are trying to help.
[13:21] <psycho_oreos> is there a way to specify gtkpod to not use xmms as xmms no longer exist? I've tried to start xmms2d but even at that is no dice and this also includes symlinking /usr/bin/xmms to /usr/bin/xmms2
[13:21] <Gnea> nic1: typing:  man update-rc.d  will tell you what the options are for
[13:21] <meowmintx> ok so as i underatand things for most purposes desktop is the best
[13:21] <meanieface> n2diy: yes, but i'm trying to correct you when you told him it could be a bad cd
[13:21] <meanieface> n2diy: when he said he had gotten it to work 5 times before
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> david__: then why ask in her eif you know?
[13:21] <meowmintx> alternitave is if somehow you cant install the desktop
[13:22] <tame> Why won't the fonts I installed show up in open office?
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> nic1:  /etc/rc.local ran as the last script from the init process.
[13:23] <andypiper> oh... doesn't OO.org have some separate font process? it always used to...
[13:23] <meowmintx> i do wish there was just one cd that could install to both i386 and amd64 comps
[13:23] <n2diy> meanieface: no, I said it could be the CD isn't being read by the current CD reader. There is no standard for CDs like there where for floppies, or hard disks. What is the CHS for a CD?
[13:23] <andypiper> haven't they sorted that out yet? *sigh*
[13:23] <meanieface> n2diy: if there wasn't a standard i think there'd be alot more problems out there
[13:23] <joaopinto> meowmintx, that is not tecnhically possible due to the CD size
[13:24] <meowmintx> well dvd then
[13:24] <meanieface> n2diy: it's fine, i see what you are trying to say but i don't agree with the statement
[13:24] <iceroot> n2diy: can you please stop posting incorrect informations? of course there is a cd-standard. ask the ISO
[13:24] <erUSUL> meowmintx: a 1.4 GiB CD ? you need double the space ;)
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> meowmintx: you can make one with a menu system and both images
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> itd be a dvd
[13:24]  * erUSUL nods
[13:24] <tehbaut> ok, I'm trying to install something and it says to cd to the dir containing the source... ok, done
[13:24] <nic1> Gnea, i went through the man page but not quiet clear
[13:24] <n2diy> iceroot, where is the standard, besides google?
[13:24] <tehbaut> now it says to run ./configure
[13:24] <tehbaut> can't do it
[13:25] <joaopinto> meanieface, that can be done, just research and build it yourself, is not a commonly requested option :)
[13:25] <boscop> can I do 1000 recursion levels?
[13:25] <tehbaut> "no such file or directory"
[13:25] <tehbaut> so how do I install this thing?
[13:25] <meanieface> joaopinto: what the heck are you talkin about
[13:25] <joaopinto> boscop, you mean in the directory structure ?
[13:25] <iceroot> n2diy: at ISO
[13:25] <Gnea> nic1: it gives numerous examples...
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: read the readme and install files
[13:25] <n2diy> meanieface: what I find surprising is there are less issues with Cds!?
[13:25] <joaopinto> opas was for meowmintx
[13:25] <iceroot> n2diy: international standard organisation
[13:25] <boscop> joaopinto: no, on the stack
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: not everything uses configure either
[13:25] <tehbaut> ActionParsnip: I am, it's not working like it says it should
[13:25] <meanieface> joaopinto: haha no prob
[13:26] <tehbaut> ActionParsnip: why would it tell me to run it if it doesn't need me to
[13:26] <joaopinto> boscop, that depends on the stack size and how many data is being pushed at each recursion
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: is there an autogen file, some apps have one of thse you need to run first
[13:26] <boscop> joaopinto: how can I find out how big the stack is?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: can you link me to the tar.gz and i'll see where you have to compile from
[13:27] <meanieface> n2diy: i'm not sure what you are gettin at but i don't think i can explain it anymore
[13:27] <boscop> joaopinto: I just push one int
[13:27] <boscop> as argument
[13:28] <joaopinto> boscop, I believe it's 2^32 bytes, on a 32 bits system, if you have that much RAM :)
[13:28] <Gnea> nic1: the first example is usually the one that works
[13:28] <tehbaut> ActionParsnip: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/download.php?content=97866&id=1&tan=25175142
[13:28] <tehbaut> ==> TaskDock
[13:28] <meowmintx> over one hour to download an iso shesh
[13:29] <joaopinto> boscop, alsdo depends on ulimit -s
[13:29] <joaopinto> stack size              (kbytes, -s) 8192
[13:29] <joaopinto> :P
[13:29] <n2diy> meanieface: Ok I googled it, ISO 9660, and there are a half a dozen "standards".
[13:29] <boscop> joaopinto: 8192
[13:29] <boscop> yea
[13:29] <joaopinto> boscop, ulimit -s unlimited
[13:30] <boscop> joaopinto: but there are already functions on the stack from the OS
[13:30] <meanieface> n2diy: ok so you are tellin me if i burn something and it works on 10 machines but there are 3 machines that the cd doesn't work on that its the cd's fault?
[13:30] <meowmintx> torrent seems better for download
[13:30] <bliip> hi! how can i check what graphic driver I'm using?
[13:31] <frogzoo> meanieface: there's type 1 & type 2 cd formats, and older cds can't read the type 2
[13:31] <n2diy> meanieface: or the readers fault, or a combination of both?
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> meowmintx:  depends on the # shareing the torrent. might be fast... might be slow.
[13:31] <frogzoo> meanieface: for a cookie, I bet the 3 machines are older..
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: there is no configure script there so I'd head straight to make
[13:31] <meanieface> frogzoo: then wouldn't that be a HARDWARE issue?
[13:32] <frogzoo> meanieface: nooo
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> tehbaut: make sure you have all the -dev dependancies so you can compile it
[13:32] <nic1> Gnea, i was trying starting from the second one, first one ran but with a warning saying update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/slim missing LSB information, how serious is this warning?
[13:32] <meowmintx> torrent is working faster than mirror
[13:32] <frogzoo> meanieface: well, maybe
[13:32] <meanieface> frogzoo: ok his words were, "cd's don't have standards"
[13:32] <frogzoo> meowmintx: as is usual
[13:33] <Hajex> is there any tool to detect problem in system ?
[13:33] <frogzoo> meanieface: reburn for type 1 format & see how you go
[13:33] <n2diy> Hajex: log files, /var/log
[13:33] <Gnea> nic1: not sure
[13:33] <meanieface> frogzoo: i'm not having the issue
[13:33] <frogzoo> right, I'll shut up then
[13:33] <Hajex> n2diy thanks
[13:34] <joaopinto> boscop, right, I told you the max, not the max for your own use :P
[13:35] <psycho_oreos> anyone used gtkpod?
[13:36] <meowmintx> even if torrent iso takes along time to download are they fairly stable
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> meowmintx: torrenting also gives extra error checking to the data
[13:36] <Hajex> n2diy .. I have problem with python and yesterday it makes the system crached and not work till I reinstall python and gnome .. I wnat to know how can I find the source of this problem
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> meowmintx: but you should still md5 test the file
[13:38] <lobito> hi
[13:38] <nic1> Gnea how can i start the new display manager now? i dont see that in login session now?
[13:38] <M4K4V3l1> hi everyone
[13:38] <n2diy> Hajex:note the time of the crash, and check your log files to see what happened at that time. It is a PITA looking through all the files, but that is the only way I know how to do it.
[13:39] <BoxMagnet> nic1, startx
[13:39] <Gnea> nic1: you need to make sure the init script is written right
[13:39] <Gnea> BoxMagnet: startx bypasses the dm
[13:39] <BoxMagnet> dm?
[13:39] <M4K4V3l1> I got a problem in nfs.. the error message : mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 172.16.50.52:/home/amine
[13:39] <Gnea> BoxMagnet: display manager
[13:39] <Hajex> ok.. thanks n2diy
[13:40] <BoxMagnet> oh....
[13:40] <nic1> Gnea, i just copied the init script so it wil be fine
[13:40] <Gnea> nic1: you said it has an LSB error?
[13:40] <nic1> startx? wil that start new display manager?? how will startx decide which display manager needs to be started?
[13:40] <M4K4V3l1> it's a famous problem.. but I still can't resolve
[13:41] <nic1> Gnea, ya there is a LSB error, what is the error meaning actually?
[13:41] <Gnea> nic1: it doesn't, ignore it
[13:41] <Gnea> nic1: it means the script isn't written right
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> M4K4V3l1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255872&highlight=mounting+shares
[13:41] <nic1> oh..ok
[13:41] <switchgirlEEE> hay baby  wanna come over to myspace and twitter my yahoo till I google all over your facebook?
[13:41] <rainie> helo
[13:41] <M4K4V3l1> ActionParsnip: thx
[13:41] <Gnea> !ot | switchgirlEEE
[13:41] <DJones> !ot | switchgirlEEE
[13:42] <rainie> my pigding no connect! help me...
[13:42] <M4K4V3l1> ActionParsnip: but the problem is with nfs.. not samba
[13:43] <nic1> Gnea, script i just copied it exaclty..can't we able to know what is the error exactly?
[13:43] <Gnea> rainie: please try #pidgin
[13:43] <BoxMagnet> ActionParsnip, might i recommend mounting via SSH ?
[13:43] <AnirbanHazra> Is there any official Twitter channel for Ubuntu ?
[13:43] <rezd> rainie: what are you try to connect to MSN, Yahoo?
[13:43] <Gnea> nic1: you said you would pastebin the script. you did not.
[13:43] <meowmintx> if anyone wants to get a ubuntu with a 5sec boot with only 100mb ram check this out. http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=34554
[13:43] <zeeble> hey, is there a ubuntu netinstall iso?
[13:43] <Gnea> nic1: and, like I said, you have to edit the script, you can't just copy it and hope that a rename will make it work - it doesn't work like that
[13:43] <IdleOne> !minimal | zeeble
[13:43] <meowmintx> then tweek tweek tweek
[13:44] <IdleOne> !ot > meowmintx
[13:44] <zeeble> damnit. the screen was scrolling so fast it was difficult to copy that link
[13:44] <zeeble> thanks IdleOne
[13:44] <nic1> i created a file and printed all the lines looking at original
[13:45] <meowmintx> what this is relevent its on topic.
[13:45] <rezd> Are there any guides from moving from CentOS/Fedora/Red Hat to Ubuntu?
[13:45] <Gnea> meowmintx: wrong.
[13:45] <JacobT> hey room
[13:45] <JacobT> my computer does weird thigns
[13:45] <rezd> JacobT: so does mine. :-)
[13:45] <iceroot> what is * (everything) in regex? like abcd  = a*d  so its matched because everything between a and d is allowed
[13:45] <JacobT> for one it artifacts a lot ont eh RT hand side of the LCD
[13:45] <Gnea> iceroot: [a-d]
[13:46] <JacobT> the icons in my toolbars will all the sudden squish together
[13:46] <JacobT> if the screen saver comes on and i type in the password it takes 2 minuts for it to actully log back in
[13:46] <Slaveryyy> hello gud evning, i have a problem, my cd-rom is broken. can i install ubuntu if will save it through my hardisk? and run it install
[13:46] <Slaveryyy> ?
[13:46] <iceroot> Gnea: ok  bad example   12abcdfheuisnd75   = 12*75
[13:46] <AnirbanHazra> Is there any official Twitter channel for Ubuntu ?
[13:46] <JacobT> and if i use the update manager or add remove software it locks up an stays grey
[13:46] <meowmintx> ubottu: told me my poste about a 5sec boot ubuntu was oftopic darn bot
[13:47] <Gnea> iceroot: not sure, try #regex?
[13:47] <rezd> AnirbanHazra: not exactly what you asked, but there is Facebook group.
[13:47] <Slaveryyy> hello gud evning, i have a problem, my cd-rom is broken. can i install ubuntu if will save it through my hardisk? and run it install
[13:47] <rainie> pigding don't connect to yahoo? Can you help me?
[13:48] <Slaveryyy> hey anybody can help me?
[13:48] <IdleOne> meowmintx: it's about linuxmint not ubuntu. that os offtopic
[13:48] <Gnea> rainie: use the correct username/password
[13:48] <IdleOne> is*
[13:48] <rezd> rainie: best try the channel, #pidgin
[13:48] <Slaveryyy> ?
[13:48] <Gnea> Slaveryyy: what is 'gud'?
[13:49] <Slaveryyy> hello good evning, i have a problem, my cd-rom is broken. can i install ubuntu if will save it through my hardisk? and run it install
[13:49] <Gnea> !usb | Slaveryyy
[13:49] <toot> Hi. I think I have an IRQ conflict. Here is my output of /proc/interrupts http://paste.ubuntu.com/297449/ please have a look and verify with me. I think it may explain why I am having video-related system freezes, it looks like i have a conflict between nvidia and ehci_hcd:usb1
[13:49] <Theexperts> Hi, every one i am using VMware  in xp i installed ubuntu 9.04 in vmware. how can i transfer files xp to ubuntu 9.04 ?
[13:49] <nic1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/297451/
[13:49] <rainie> can't connect to yahoo! id and pass ..ok!
[13:49] <Gnea> toot: try booting with this option:  pci=routeirq
[13:50] <rainie> solias?
[13:50] <nic1> Gnea, i pastedbin the script, can you please check if you can see any mistakes in the script?
[13:50] <meowmintx> well read the poste its not about linuxmint. just cause its hpsted on that site from a lontime user shesh.
[13:50] <jrib> meowmintx: are you answering or asking a support question?
[13:50] <toot> Gnea, how do I go about doing that
[13:50] <meowmintx> IdleOne: have you actually read the post yourself
[13:51] <Gnea> nic1: okay - you need to make a copy of the skeleton file and edit THAT so that it will launch slim
[13:51] <toot> Gnea, and to finish the thought, how would i set it permanently
[13:51] <Slaveryyy> ubottu: can i use a ipod?
[13:51] <meowmintx> jrib: giving you info on how to get a ubuntu with 5sec boot for 100mb ram if you dont want to knpoe suit your self
[13:51] <Gnea> toot: it's part of the kernel line, you can find it in the grub configuration file
[13:51] <iei> Hello, in "Keyboard Preferences" Layout Options I have selected "Right Win key switches layout while pressed" but it does not seem to change to the second language I added.. Is there something I'm missing?
[13:52] <Theexperts> Sorry for asking again..  i am using VMware  in xp i installed ubuntu 9.04 in vmware. how can i transfer files xp to ubuntu 9.04 ?
[13:52] <IdleOne> meowmintx: ok it's about ubuntu. still offtopic. this channel is for support
[13:52] <indus> toot: you add it to grub menu list
[13:52] <nic1> oh
[13:52] <Slaveryyy> ubottu: can i use a ipod?
[13:52] <dennda> How do you start a graphical app over ssh again, so that it pops up on the remote machine?
[13:52] <indus> though iam not sure what it will do
[13:52] <indus> Slaveryyy: what is the question
[13:52] <Slaveryyy> hello good evning, i have a problem, my cd-rom is broken. can i install ubuntu if will save it through my hardisk? and run it install
[13:52] <meowmintx> and ppl here would not like that sort of info
[13:52] <indus> Slaveryyy: ubott is a robot
[13:52] <jrib> meowmintx: I appreciate the info but that's not really helpful in this channel unless someone specifically asks about it.  A better approach would be to create a nice wiki page with the directions made specific to Ubuntu and then create a thread on the ubuntu forums about it so anyone interested can try it out
[13:52] <prince_jammys> dennda: look into the -X and -Y options.
[13:53] <Theexperts> Hi, every one i am using VMware  in xp i installed ubuntu 9.04 in vmware. how can i transfer files xp to ubuntu 9.04 ?
[13:53] <Gnea> meowmintx: we do support here, not random info. if you want to publish it, go write a webpage or a blog.
[13:53] <Actieman> Hey guys, anyone know a GOOD site/forum for good GlobalMenu instructions ??
[13:53] <iei> Hello, in "Keyboard Preferences" Layout Options I have selected "Right Win key switches layout while pressed" but it does not seem to change to the second language I added.. Is there something I'm missing?
[13:54] <dennda> prince_jammys: you misunderstood. I do not want to forward x, but remotely start a graphical app over ssh that pops up on the machine that runs the ssh server
[13:54] <dennda> i think it was something like DISPLAY::=1 or so
[13:54] <indus> Slaveryyy: no it wont work
[13:54] <indus> Slaveryyy: you can boot from usb drive
[13:54] <n2diy> iei: did you set up a keyboard switcher command?
[13:54] <rainie> please help me!
[13:55] <iei> n2diy hmm, I dont know what do you mean by that
[13:55] <indus> Slaveryyy: understand?
[13:55] <indus> rainie: yes
[13:55] <nic1> Gnea, from the script i pasted bin, can you please tell me what are the options args? i am completely blank about scripting
[13:55] <Gnea> rainie: #pidgin can help you, we don't provide specialized pidgin support
[13:55] <iei> n2diy I just added a language in Selected Layouts
[13:55] <indus> rainie: what is the problem?
[13:56] <rainie> pigding don't connect to yahoo? i need to do?
[13:56] <Gnea> nic1: which is why you need to make a copy of the skeleton file and edit it - it's heavily commented, so it's not rocket-science to figure out
[13:56] <iei> n2diy so now I got 2 and I want a key to switch between them
[13:56] <indus> rainie: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[13:56] <rainie> yes! 9.04
[13:56] <prince_jammys> dennda: ah, sorry. i presume something like 'DISPLAY=foo appname', but don't quote me.
[13:56] <indus> rainie: have you updated your system
[13:56] <nic1> i have copied and i am trying to edit
[13:56] <rainie> yes
[13:56] <Theexperts> Sorry for asking again..  i am using VMware  in xp i installed ubuntu 9.04 in vmware. how can i transfer files xp to ubuntu 9.04 ?
[13:57] <Gnea> nic1: it's a large file, you'll have to experiment before it will work right
[13:57] <indus> rainie: in yahoo settings enter username befoere the @ , dont enter full username xyz@yahoo.com only enter xyz
[13:57] <n2diy> iei: ok, go back to the keyboard setup, and look around for a "switch" usallly ctrl-alt-something, you can also install a switcher icon on your talk bar.
[13:57] <nic1> Gnea, it tells startup links for file already exist, what do i need to do?
[13:58] <rainie> yes. i'm try..... wait for me!please..!
[13:58] <Vertel> Theexperts: Can't be sure, having not used VMWare, but the general solution for that problem is to give the virtual machine access to the main machine by network, and establish a shared directory on either machine you can copy files to.
[13:58] <n2diy> *talk/task
[13:58] <BoxMagnet> Theexperts, you can install ubuntu after windows an dual boot
[13:58] <iei> n2diy I just realised something, ALT seems to work(switching between languages) but the Right "and" Left Win keys do not seem to work? why is that
[13:58] <iceroot> how to match with regex  backup_foo_bar but not backup_foo? so there must be 2 _
[13:59] <sblunix> Welcome to #ubuntu , how may I take your order?
[13:59] <BoxMagnet> sblunix, ill have a cheesesteak, no tomato sauce.
[13:59] <Vertel> I'm looking at backup tools/options for Ubuntu. Unfortunately, I'm suffering from the tyranny of choice; anyone got specific recommendations?
[13:59] <n2diy> iei: not sure, but the switch commands are very specific, right-alt, left alt, etc...
[14:00] <jrib> Vertel: rsnapshot
[14:00] <Take0n> guys I have a problem.. I am connected to a ubuntu pc at home throu SSH and I want to download something on that pc but I can't I am trying with wget something (which works for me in this pc) but on the other pc through SSH it says:
[14:00] <jrib> iei: fwiw left and right shift keys is what I use that works for me
[14:00] <iei> n2diy ok I got it now, I selected the wrong thing I guess.. Win key switched between layout does not work dunno whats that for, but Win key changes layout works
[14:01] <indus> rainie: hello ? success?
[14:01] <Take0n> Connecting to IP:PORT... failed: No route to host.
[14:01] <sblunix> Vertel: may I recommend simple back up suite?
[14:01] <sblunix> Vertel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[14:01] <rainie> yes! i done.. don't connect..! huhuhu.... botay!
[14:01] <sblunix> !BackupYourSystem
[14:02] <Vertel> Hrn. Could have sworn I searched the wiki for a backup page...
[14:02] <rainie> no!
[14:03] <agussman> This seems really obvious, but I can't find the correct option in the manpage.  rsync fails when I attempt to copy /path/to/file to a target machine if the subdir 'to' is missing.  If I manually create the 'to' dir on the target machine, rsync works.  How do I tell rsync to create the entire dir tree?
[14:04] <Gnea> nic1: it's pointing to the initscript, so just replace it
[14:04] <Vertel> sblunix: That looks to be exactly what I'm after. Thanks!
[14:04] <BoxMagnet> rsnapshot looks interesting, not sure how to initiate a backup of a remote file system over ssh though
[14:04] <laza> hi guys
[14:04] <Take0n> anyone?
[14:04] <sblunix> Vertel: No problem :) It's what I use
[14:05] <sblunix> Take0n: what was your question?
[14:05] <laza> please help me, my X is broken, and i have to go online under console, with wifi please help me
[14:05] <Vertel> Looks like the only thing it'll miss is installed packages, and I can always re-add those as I find them missing.
[14:05] <sblunix> Vertel: actually
[14:05] <sblunix> hold on one second
[14:06] <Take0n> I am to a pc at home through ssh and I am trying to download something on that pc using "wget http://83.233.243.66/favicon.ico" just to test if it works but it doesn't.
[14:06] <sblunix> Vertel: http://blog.hanno-stock.de/archives/50
[14:06] <Take0n> --16:04:31--  http://83.233.243.66/favicon.ico => `favicon.ico'
[14:06] <Take0n> Connecting to 83.233.243.66:80... failed: No route to host.
[14:06] <Take0n> this ip is my apache :P
[14:06] <BoxMagnet> Take0n, thats no the absoloute path to the file is it ?
[14:06] <Bilge> If I make a user who is just used to download backup files from a restricted shell, should I add it as a system user (UID < 1000) or a normal user?
[14:06] <BoxMagnet> Take0n, ssh is port 22 by default.
[14:06] <Take0n> it is
[14:07] <BoxMagnet> oh ur not using ssh
[14:07] <BoxMagnet> can you ping that pc?
[14:07] <Spirits-Sight> anyone know how to get mythzmserver to work with latest zoneminder?
[14:07] <Take0n> guys
[14:07] <Take0n> the IP above is the IP I try to download the file from
[14:07] <Vertel> sblunix: Hrm. That could work. I just have to run it as a scheduled task every week or so.
[14:07] <laza> please help me, my X is broken, and i have to go online under console, with wifi
[14:08] <sblunix> Vertel: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/schedule-tasks-using-gnome-schedule-a-cron-at-gui-in-ubuntu.html ;)
[14:08] <BoxMagnet> sblunix, is there a GUI backup program
[14:08] <Coeus82> hey guys, I'm in buenos aires at the moment and two days ago they moved the hour ahead by 1 (GMT-2), however ubuntu keeps automatically changing the time to what it was before (GMT-3)
[14:08] <Vertel> You're just a delightfully useful geek, aren't you? :P
[14:08] <Take0n> BoxMagnet, I can ping it
[14:08] <sblunix> BoxMagnet: It's called Simple Backup Sweet
[14:08] <grawity> Take0n: Read the error message - "no route to host"
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> !fixres
[14:08] <erUSUL> Coeus82: there was an update of tzdata and tzdata-java two days ago
[14:08] <meowmintx> i like ubuntu its stable and userfriendly
[14:08] <sblunix> BoxMagnet http://help.ubuntu.com/BackUpYourSystem
[14:08] <Take0n> I don't know what it means.. that's why I am sking here..
[14:09] <erUSUL> Coeus82: that should have fixed it
[14:09] <Vertel> Seems strange that there's no default/preferred backup system in Ubuntu, but oh well. Problem solved, one way or another.
[14:09] <BoxMagnet> sblunix, in apt, i find simplebackup
[14:09] <grawity> Take0n: Also, if you can ping it, it does not mean you can access what is hosted on port 80 - it may be forwarded to a different server, and it's the router that you ping and that returns the error.
[14:09] <BoxMagnet> but its not a gui?
[14:09] <erUSUL> Coeus82: are you up to date ?
[14:09] <sblunix> BoxMagnet: https://help.ubuntu.com/BackUpYourSystem
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> Vertel:  everyones needs are different. :)
[14:09] <sblunix> BoxMagnet: Yes, it's a GUI
[14:09] <BoxMagnet> sblunix, hm, oh, its sbackup i had installed simplebackup
[14:09] <Coeus82> erUSUL, hmm.. doesn't seem to be  the case. Yes, I just upgraded. I am on Karmic btw and I just did an upgrade today
[14:09] <BoxMagnet> lol.
[14:10] <Vertel> Dr_Willis: Granted, but it's still an odd gap. It wouldn't be particularly hard to adopt a general purpose backup utility, without getting in the way of people installing more complex backup software.
[14:10] <Take0n> so wait.. I am connected to the pc right now.. how should I test if it actually downloads or not? I am connected to the default 22 port
[14:10] <sblunix> !9.10 | Coeus82
[14:10] <erUSUL> Coeus82: ? ask in #ubuntu+1 ?
[14:10] <Coeus82> ahh
[14:10] <BoxMagnet> sblunix, sbackup does not run the program though?
[14:10] <Coeus82> ok thanks
[14:10] <ltcabral> does anyone know if utf8 support chinese characters?
[14:10] <grawity> ltcabral: It does.
[14:10] <ltcabral> grawity: thanks
[14:11] <grawity> ltcabral: UTF8 is just a representation of Unicode; and Unicode does support more than you can imagine.
[14:11] <erUSUL> Coeus82: look No es un Bug Como ya te dije en IRC
[14:11] <Vertel> Huh. Simple Backup Suite doesn't preserve permissions/ownership? Strange.
[14:11] <erUSUL> Coeus82: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/453165
[14:11] <Vertel> Oh well. Not a deal-breaker.
[14:11] <sblunix> Vertel: it should :\
[14:11] <kostas_thess1> Take0n:)
[14:11] <Take0n> :)
[14:11] <erUSUL> Coeus82: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/t/tzdata/tzdata_2009n-0ubuntu0.9.04.1/changelog
[14:11] <Vertel> sblunix: There's a note at the bottom of the Restore section.
[14:12] <Vertel> "Note: By default, restored files and directories are owned by root. This is because sbackup runs with root privileges."
[14:12] <Coeus82> @erUSUL: so I guess it's probably just an issue with Karmic at the moment
[14:12] <sblunix> Vertel: Oh well, all I do is enter my password when it prompts me
[14:12] <sblunix> Vertel: I thought i had found some workaround but I'm not sure
[14:12] <Coeus82> err.. but the link you sent me says the bug is fixed, weird
[14:13] <Vertel> Like I said, not a deal breaker. I can easily re-permission my home folder.
[14:13] <erUSUL> Coeus82: dunno; according to bug report seems to be fixed in al versions of ubuntu
[14:14] <BoxMagnet> Vertel, If I use / for backup it will get everything yes
[14:14] <BoxMagnet> will i then be able to copy to a new hd?
[14:14] <sblunix> Vertel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync#grsync
[14:14] <erUSUL> Coeus82: Karmic fixed by syncing 2009n-2 from Debian sid: <<<< this is on the comments
[14:14] <BoxMagnet> err
[14:14] <sblunix> Vertel: It says theirs an option to preserve ownership :\
[14:14] <BoxMagnet> meant to ask sblunix
[14:15] <Vertel> BoxMagnet: Not sure on that count. On a standard Linux system I'd say yes, but I'm not sure on Ubuntu; there's a lot of files that only exist when the system is actually running, and I'm not sure what backing them up/restoring them would do.
[14:15] <Aviram> Hey guys, I wonder how I can do some effects using compiz, I've seen this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ
[14:15] <sblunix> BoxMagnet: Yes, but I don't think that's particularly necessary, doing ~/ should be fine, just backup your home folder
[14:15] <BoxMagnet> Vertel, ok, im getting a new HD soon whats my best option
[14:15] <Aviram> The effect when window is minimized/closed
[14:15] <Take0n> sorry if I am a pain in the a*s but I don't understand.. the IP and port 80 was just a site I tried to download something from just to test.. It could be microsoft.com or whatsoever.. the problem is that I am not able to download anything from anywhere and I can't understand why.. :\ could someone explain to me or just point me to the right direction pls?
[14:15] <Aviram> The other effects aswell
[14:16] <ahmedgogan> any one here to help me
[14:17] <sblunix> !compiz | aviram
[14:17] <indus> ahmedgogan: question
[14:17] <sblunix> ahmedgogan: what is your question?
[14:17] <Vertel> sblunix: Thanks for your help. This should work out good.
[14:17] <ahmedgogan> i have downloaded the latest version of ubuntu
[14:18] <sblunix> Vertel: Glad I could be of assistance :) if you need anything else, my contact info is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/sblunix
[14:18] <ahmedgogan> and written on cd via infrarecorder as stated on ur website
[14:18] <ahmedgogan> but the disc has go some error
[14:18] <Coeus82> thanks for your help erUSUL.. I'm issuing another update / upgrade command and will see if the issue is fixed on my end
[14:18] <ubuntistas> which is the fastest kde ? from linux mint or kubuntu?
[14:18] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I remove a user from a (secondary) group and then get rid of the group?
[14:18] <erUSUL> Coeus82: no problem
[14:18] <ahmedgogan> sblunix ??
[14:18] <indus> ahmedgogan:you should burn at a slower speed like 8 x
[14:18] <sblunix> ubuntistas: Same speed, as always, I reccomend kubuntu
[14:19] <erUSUL> Mike_lifeguard: System>Admin>User and groups
[14:19] <Mike_lifeguard> erUSUL: CLI please :)
[14:19] <indus> ubuntistas: i recommend suse
[14:19] <sblunix> ahmedgogan: You should re-download and re-burn everything to confirm there wasn't an error in downloading or burning
[14:19] <Coeus82> indus: why?
[14:19] <Mike_lifeguard> It is amazing how quickly I became comfortable with the CLI. I thought it'd take forever :)
[14:19] <sblunix> !kubuntu | ubuntistas
[14:19] <indus> Coeus82: kde nicer there
[14:20] <erUSUL> Mike_lifeguard: man deluser
[14:20] <roshan> hello everyone, I'm trying to use the Karmic Beta LiveCD but X11 refuses to start. Is it possible for me to somehow install from the command line?
[14:20] <Mike_lifeguard> right
[14:20] <Coeus82> indus: Oh, I use gnome
[14:20] <Mike_lifeguard> erUSUL: thansk
[14:20] <Mike_lifeguard> +spelling :)
[14:20] <sblunix> !karmic | roshan
[14:20] <MenZa> roshan: Try #ubuntu+1 - and no, you need the alternate CD for that.
[14:20] <erUSUL> Mike_lifeguard: deluser USER GROUP && delgroup GROUP
[14:20] <roshan> Gotcha, thank you.
[14:20] <MenZa> roshan: Welcome.
[14:20] <BoxMagnet> sblunix, so that program does not keep permissions?
[14:20] <ahmedgogan> is there any one to help me ???
[14:20] <sblunix> BoxMagnet: yes it does keep permissions
[14:21] <Mike_lifeguard> !ask | ahmedgogan
[14:21] <sblunix> you can see the options here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync#grsync
[14:21] <indus> ahmedgogan: at least 2 people gave you replies ,so why are you repeating
[14:21] <indus> !volunteers
[14:21] <Alex3nder> hi, i have a piece of PCI TV Tuner compatible with ivtv, but its not recognised as of now... i have a fresh install of ubuntu 9.10... can someone guide me as to how to install ivtv drivers and get my card recognised properly... also where can i find a guide to set this up.. and running...
[14:21] <MenZa> indus: !attitude, perhaps.
[14:22] <indus> Alex3nder: which tv  tuner is this? i mean brand name, also can u paste output of lspci
[14:22] <sblunix> !voulunteers
[14:22] <sblunix> !attitude
[14:22] <sblunix> ah, nice MenZa
[14:22] <Alex3nder> indus from lspci i get this info: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
[14:22] <MenZa> !msgthebot > sblunix
[14:23] <indus> Alex3nder: hmm connexant chip , did you try using tvtime
[14:23] <BoxMagnet> sblunix, it said the backup was started, but i see no files being made in the remote directory over ssh
[14:23] <Alex3nder> indus, but at the boot time i  get errors saying unrecognised ivtv device
[14:23] <BoxMagnet> sblunix, it did say the connection worked thouh
[14:23] <indus> Alex3nder: hmm
[14:23] <indus> !ivtv
[14:23] <indus> omg old info
[14:23] <MenZa> wow, that is old
[14:23] <Alex3nder> indus, i tried tvtime... but not working... also i read somewhere that tvtime doesnt support ivtv very well
[14:24] <indus> Alex3nder: yeah, iam trying to find out what ivtv is, i have a pinnac;le  tuner ,so its different i think
[14:24] <Alex3nder> indus, what is the way to get this device recognised first and get rid of the boot time error messeges
[14:24] <kostas_thess1> anyone knwos why my ubuntu says no route to host at wget,apt-get but i am connected to this over internet?
[14:24] <indus> Alex3nder: device is recognised as u saw in lspci , can i se edmesg output
[14:24] <Alex3nder> should i install some drivers... modules etc? if so how? im a real noob when it comes to this... so please help me out
[14:25] <yadudoc> maggi_,
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> kostas_thess1: can you nslookup the ip or name
[14:25] <yadudoc> maggi_, hey
[14:25] <indus> Alex3nder: have you installed ivtv drivers?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> kostas_thess1: can you traceroute the name / ip
[14:25] <maggi_> hey...
[14:25] <kostas_thess1> no ActionParsnip
[14:25] <Alex3nder> indus, i dunno how to
[14:25] <maggi_> yadudoc,hey...got it....
[14:25] <kubanc> can somebody helps me. when i log on to gnome i have a blank white screen
[14:25] <indus> Alex3nder: its in synaptic , install it
[14:25] <thijs_> what would be the best log file to tail for total system freezes?
[14:25] <MenZa> maggi_: hello.
[14:26] <kostas_thess1> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[14:26] <kostas_thess1> that says ActionParsnip
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> kubanc:  as a test - make a new user via the console - see if gnome works for new user. If it does. Then you got some gnome settings causing issues for the non-working user.
[14:26] <albasheers1> I am using ubuntu intrepid  and have inserted edubuntu 9.04  ,it autoplayed then add/remove application opened after that I removed edubuntu cd ,but  now I am getting this " not all updates  can be installed " , can anybody tell me how can I fix this ,I don't want to upgrade to ubuntu jaunty
[14:26] <erUSUL> thijs_: messages or kernel.log ? better yet use multitail and watch messages kernel.log and syslog
[14:26] <llutz> thijs_: /var/Log/messages or syslog, if ever
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> kostas_thess1: if you run: route | grep default      do you get an output?
[14:26] <thijs_> thanks erUSUL and llutz
[14:26] <bazhang> albasheers1, did you add the jaunty repos?
[14:27] <albasheers1> no
[14:27] <kostas_thess1> xmmm it says 0.0.0.0
[14:27] <bazhang> albasheers1, adding the package edubuntu-desktop from within intrepid will give it to you
[14:27] <Coeus82> When did Canonical say they were going to put synaptic pm, upgrade manager, and add/remove software all in one again? Was there a release schedule for that?
[14:27] <kostas_thess1> can i make it paste here?
[14:27] <indus> Alex3nder: but i dont think ivtv is needed separately as its inbuilt in kernel
[14:27] <albasheers1> yes
[14:27] <kostas_thess1> default dsldevice.lan 0.0.0.0 UG 100 0 0 eth0
[14:27] <Alex3nder> indus, here is the demesg http://pastebin.com/m67c7140e
[14:28]  * NetM slaps kostas_thess1 around a bit with a large trout
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> kostas_thess1: are you connected to a router?
[14:28] <kostas_thess1> :>
[14:28] <Alex3nder> indus, thats what i also read and figured out... but how to get this thingy recognised
[14:28] <kostas_thess1> ActionParsnip yes
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> kostas_thess1: http://pastebin.com/f1472bc49   something like that?
[14:29] <albasheers1> bazhang: when ya try to update it is saying me that "not all updates can be installed
[14:29] <kostas_thess1> wait to make it paste to see it
[14:29] <indus> Alex3nder: hmm if u see dmesg, i guess you should mail them this
[14:30] <indus> Alex3nder: whaht manufacturer is this?
[14:30] <Alex3nder> indus, why anything strange?
[14:30] <kostas_thess1> here is ActionParsnip http://pastebin.com/m328f114c
[14:30] <Alex3nder> indus, its Avermedia AverTV 116
[14:30] <indus> Alex3nder: ya cheap ones have trouble being recongnises
[14:30] <indus> Alex3nder: aah avermedia then ok
[14:30] <Alex3nder> is that cheap? :D
[14:30] <Alex3nder> :S
[14:31] <indus> Alex3nder: lool no i guesxs not
[14:31] <albasheers1> I am using ubuntu intrepid  and have inserted edubuntu 9.04  ,it autoplayed then add/remove application opened after that I removed edubuntu cd ,but  now I am getting this " not all updates  can be installed " , can anybody tell me how can I fix this ,I don't want to upgrade to ubuntu jaunty
[14:31] <BoxMagnet> started a remote backup with SimpleBackupSuite but dont see the folder being created on the remote machine
[14:31] <BoxMagnet> ??
[14:31] <Alex3nder> i bought pinnacle first... but it never worked on linux... then i bought avermedia
[14:31] <indus> Alex3nder: i had a frontech model which i had to replace with pinnacle
[14:31] <indus> Alex3nder: pinnacel works good the analog one
[14:32] <indus> Alex3nder: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/ivtv/devel/40358
[14:32] <Alex3nder> indus, for my bad luck i spend 100$ on pinnacle and it never worked :S
[14:32] <bazhang> albasheers1, what happens when you sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop (errors at paste.ubuntu.com)
[14:32] <Alex3nder> not even on windows
[14:32] <Alex3nder> hehe
[14:32] <pcassiano_> hello everybody
[14:32] <indus> Alex3nder: which pinnavle card? HD and all that?
[14:32] <kostas_thess1> ti ActionParsnip any news?
[14:32] <Alex3nder> yeah HD Pro Stick or some thing like that...
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> kostas_thess1: you are missing the link-local that i have bu i am not sure if thats essential
[14:33] <indus> Alex3nder: ya i  have pinnacle pctv 50 i which stopped selling in usa in 2005, but i got it brand new in india :)
[14:33] <Alex3nder> anyways... indus is there anyway to get this card working...
[14:33] <indus> Alex3nder:yes u see link i sent http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/ivtv/devel/40358
[14:33] <Aviram> for some reason, my sound stopped working
[14:33] <Alex3nder> are my dmesg and lspci replies fine???
[14:33] <Aviram> Anyone got a clue?
[14:33] <solidintro> irc.lightning.net
[14:33] <kostas_thess1> xmmm i dont think that the problem ActionParsnip
[14:33] <MenZa> solidintro: Please don't advertise other services here.
[14:34] <pcassiano_> ...
[14:34] <kostas_thess1> becouse at another pc i have has the same problem...
[14:34] <solidintro> oops sorry
[14:34] <kostas_thess1> i dont have the same problem*
[14:34] <kubanc> Dr_Willis: I created a new user, and my gnome came up, what shuld i do for the non working user, so he could be able to see his gnome ?
[14:34] <kostas_thess1> Alex3nder can you help me if you know?
[14:34] <Alex3nder> indus, in that link he mentions a patch of some sort... could you kinda explain to me in simple terminology...
[14:34] <indus> Alex3nder: i think they have linux derivers on site too
[14:34] <kostas_thess1> thanks ActionParsnip
[14:35] <rezd> Going from lenny to Ubuntu 9.04 moved the working socket of my sound from the back to the front. :-(
[14:35] <kostas_thess1> :>
[14:35] <Alex3nder> kostas_thess1, im struggling here to get help... :D
[14:35] <erUSUL> kubanc: maybe there is something in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[14:35] <indus> Alex3nder: which version of ubuntu
[14:35] <Alex3nder> indus, 9.10
[14:36] <indus> Alex3nder: huhuhu karmic :)
[14:36] <Alex3nder> its lovely
[14:36] <indus> Alex3nder: its beta
[14:36] <indus> Alex3nder: file  a bug immediate
[14:36] <kostas_thess1> anyone knows how to fix the error no route to host??
[14:36] <indus> Alex3nder: ubuntu-bug -p linux
[14:36] <Alex3nder> ok! will do...
[14:36] <kubanc> erUSUL: where can in se xsession-erros ?
[14:36] <indus> Alex3nder: mention card name also
[14:37] <Pici> Alex3nder: Also Karmic support is in #ubuntu+1 , its offtopic for #ubuntu until release day.
[14:37] <Alex3nder> indus, about that link you gave me...
[14:37] <erUSUL> kubanc: in your hamoe dir. ~ == $HOME == /home/yourusername
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> kostas_thess1: does the host you are seeking have an IP on the same subnet as you are on?
[14:37] <indus> Alex3nder: but wait, they have official linux drivers try those
[14:37] <Alex3nder> can you explain to me how to apply that patch
[14:37] <kostas_thess1> yes ActionParsnip
[14:38] <indus> Alex3nder: dont worry be happy  tell me name of card again
[14:38] <djtigerwolf> teamspeek has basic sound but no audio to and from me and alas is installed
[14:38] <kostas_thess1> the only ( I think does not is the problem ) i have port forward ALL the ports from 1 to 65535 to the local machine that is get the error no route to host
[14:38] <meowmintx> whats the wine app terminal command
[14:38] <indus> Alex3nder: forget the patch its wrong one
[14:38] <grawity> meowmintx: 'wine'
[14:38] <Alex3nder> indus, Avermedia AverTV 116
[14:38] <meowmintx> no its not
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> kostas_thess1: so the host you seek is on your own lan?
[14:38] <kostas_thess1> no
[14:38] <indus> Alex3nder: hybrid dvb etc?
[14:38] <kostas_thess1> i work it via internet
[14:39] <NetM> i m zwo
[14:39] <NetM> oxi i work
[14:39] <albasheers1> bazhang: I don't want to install anything form edubuntu , I just inserted the edubuntu cd and when into add/remove application then removed that cd , but after removing that cd ,I saw few updates available when I tried to update it is saying "not all updates can be installed
[14:39] <NetM> ;p
[14:39] <pcassiano_> hh
[14:39] <Prune> I'd like to install Pico, but its not in my Adaptic Manager and not sure how to download or install
[14:39] <kubanc> arUSUL: here is my error http://paste.ubuntu.com/297504
[14:39] <albasheers1> bazhang:here is the screen short http://imagebin.org/68535
[14:39] <Pici> Prune: pico pretty much doesnt exist anymore, use nano instead.
[14:39] <pcassiano> d
[14:40] <indus> Alex3nder: is this a new card?
[14:40] <Pici> Prune: In fact, pico is a symlink to nano with nano installed.
[14:40] <pcassiano> Anybody from Brazil here?
[14:40] <Elixir> I have problem with python and yesterday it makes the system crashed and not work till I reinstall python and gnome .. I want to know how can I find the source of this problem
[14:40] <Prune> problem with nano, nano is on the adaptic manager, I both uninstalled and installed it, no start.   don't know what problem is either.
[14:40] <Pici> !br | pcassiano
[14:40] <Gnea> Prune: what is the 'adaptic manager'?
[14:40] <Alex3nder> indus, no i guess its an older card... its analogue only
[14:40] <Prune> I want so bad to run nano, but can't get started.  downloaded a new nano it won't run either
[14:40] <IdleOne> Gnea: I think he means Adept? maybe
[14:41] <Alex3nder> with support for S-Video and Composite
[14:41] <kostas_thess1> any info ActionParsnip
[14:41] <Prune> synaptic program manager - sorry - not adaptic as I said wrong
[14:41] <Gnea> IdleOne: he should be precise.
[14:41] <cg> hello. how can i  know what softwares i have installed ? like 'rpm -qa' in redhat
[14:41] <erUSUL> cg: dpkg -l
[14:41] <albasheers1> bazhang:here is the screen short http://imagebin.org/68535
[14:41] <Alex3nder> indus... i thought an older card would be better supported and so i bought this one
[14:41] <Gnea> Prune: once nano is installed, you just open a terminal and type: nano
[14:41] <Prune> cg go to System....Synaptic Program Manager
[14:41] <pcassiano> I'm not looking for portuguese help, I only ask for some brazilian here ;)
[14:41] <indus> Alex3nder: http://www.avermedia.com/AVerTV/Press/NewsDetail.aspx?Id=271
[14:41] <Prune> thanks Gnea will try immediately
[14:42] <indus> Alex3nder: have to search and see, there are ubunt udrivers also
[14:42] <Pici> Prune: nano should be installed by default. sudo apt-get install nano should reinstall it if you've removed it.
[14:42] <erUSUL> cg: dpkg -l | grep '^i'
[14:42] <Gnea> pcassiano: please read what ubottu told you.
[14:42] <cg> Prune: erUSUL ok. thank you
[14:42] <Alex3nder> indus, there is no mention of my card in that page...
[14:43] <thijs_> ok, so now my laptop froze up during an installation.
[14:43] <indus> Alex3nder: so i guess file a bug then, but also search the ivtv sites
[14:43] <thijs_> I multitailed the logs, but nothing strange appeared
[14:43] <cg> the new version grep has the key words high light, i like it !
[14:43] <thijs_> would anyone like to help me with this ?
[14:44] <nimrod> What are the effects of crunchbang linux on hardy.
[14:44] <Gnea> nimrod: we don't support crunchbag here.
[14:44] <bazhang> nimrod, please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:44] <Alex3nder> indus, sorry my pc suddenly logged me out! :D
[14:44] <nimrod> thanx!sorry guys did not know that.
[14:45] <nimrod> my bad.
[14:45] <Prune> Going to Applications...Accessories...Terminal, I typed "nano" and immediately a little GNU nano 2.0.9 started.  It offered some command briefs at the bottom.   I typed a little text and tried to save it, no File...Save or ...Save As commands available.  Can it start in a different interface?
[14:45] <Alex3nder> weird shit happens in beta i guess!!! :)
[14:45] <nimrod> i am a newbie.
[14:45] <indus> Alex3nder: search ivtv forums for more info
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> kostas_thess1: if the host you are connecting to is on your lan then you may need to add a name resolution in /etc/hosts. If the system is not on your network but has the same address scheme as your lan (VPN is a good example here) then you will have to change the network address of your lan so that their are 2 seperate networks
[14:45] <erUSUL> Prune: crtl + O is save
[14:45] <Alex3nder> indus ok that might be a good start...
[14:45] <Alex3nder> thanks a lot indus
[14:45] <erUSUL> Prune: it is in the "command briefs at the bottom"
[14:45] <Gnea> Prune: nano is like pico, it's a commandline-based program. as such, it does not use a gui. ^ is the same as 'ctrl'
[14:45] <Alex3nder> i'll get back to you in a while... i'll do some digging... now...
[14:45] <erUSUL> Prune: it will ask for filename
[14:46] <nimrod> movie player frezees my laptop.i have to reboot.
[14:46] <FiloSottile> hi. a wine program launchs a videogame and returns, how to wait for game to close?
[14:46] <indus> Alex3nder: ok good luck but remember, its karmic so file a bug, some bits of the kernel might be problematic so file immediate
[14:46] <FiloSottile> it is a subprocess
[14:46] <kostas_thess1> is at the same pc
[14:46] <cg> hello. any way to know something of an package i haven't installed ? like libc6-pic, what's that ?
[14:46] <FiloSottile> using bash
[14:46] <kostas_thess1> so ActionParsnip what to add
[14:47] <Alex3nder> indus, where to file the bugs for karmic?
[14:47] <mkcottle> Hello.
[14:47] <kubanc> erUSUL, here is my error http://paste.ubuntu.com/297504
[14:47] <Aviram> hmm
[14:47] <MenZa> !lp | Alex3nder
[14:47] <FiloSottile> hi. a wine program launchs a videogame and returns, how to wait for game to close in bash?
[14:47] <Aviram> Since yesterday, when I updated my ubuntu the sound has stopped working
[14:48] <Aviram> Anyone has an idea
[14:48] <Aviram> ?
[14:48] <MenZa> Aviram: Boot an older kernel and try that.
[14:48] <indus> Alex3nder: just type ubuntu-bug -p linux in a terminal and wait and watch :)
[14:48] <ab2qik> Hi Using jaunty, im trying to upgrade firefox 3.0 to 3.5. Firefox 3.0 is current running. Using add/remove tried to remove f.f.3.0 before installing 3.5 but said to use synaptic due dependencies. In synaptic, many entries exist for firefox. Do i need to uninstall all?
[14:48] <Alex3nder> MenZa, you are a really lively person aren't you? :) thanks
[14:48] <Aviram> MenZa How do I do that?
[14:48] <MenZa> Alex3nder: Rather, but indus' solution is better ;)
[14:49] <MenZa> Aviram: In your GRUB menu (the menu you see when you start up), you should have several kernels with the newest at the top. Try the second-newest one, i.e. the third in the list.
[14:49] <erUSUL> kubanc: sorry i do not see anything critical there all look like no serious errors
[14:49] <FiloSottile> hi. a wine program launchs a videogame and returns, how to wait for game to close in bash? it is a subprocess of the launcher?
[14:49] <thijs_> ok, so now my laptop froze up during an installation of netbeans, no suspicious things appeared in logs, and this happens randomly. Would anyone be able to help me a little bit?
[14:49] <antoine_> what is wrong with the repos?
[14:49] <mkcottle> <--- new to Ubuntu. Installed on Laptop (HP dv5000) with a 'button' wireless on/off, and not a switch.  Any ideas on how to digitally turn the wireless controller on?
[14:49] <nic1> i ran diff file1 file2, i am getting error
[14:50] <Aviram> mkcottle
[14:50] <Aviram> PM
[14:50] <Pici> nic1: What error?
[14:50] <Prune> I guess I'm going to have to live with gedit, which does work, and can save a file up to a server, which is what I want.  I was able to specify a filename for what I had just typed in nano, so I did get the file saved.  But then there were no options in pico for where to save the file, which defeated my purpose of saving it up to a server. Thank you.
[14:50] <MenZa> !pm | Aviram
[14:50] <Aviram> MenZa, I sent him a solution
[14:50] <Aviram> :C
[14:50] <MenZa> Aviram: Give him a solution here instead.
[14:51] <MenZa> So we can all contribute from it.
[14:51] <nic1> Pici, file2 is an extra operand it says
[14:51] <Aviram> Okay then, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1236208
[14:51] <Aviram> It has solutions for all HP Pavilion problems, solved mine atleast
[14:51] <Pici> nic1: does either filename have spaces in it?
[14:51] <mkcottle> checking it out, thanks Aviram.
[14:51] <M4K4V3l1_> sorry but ubuntu sucks in server's job
[14:51] <Prune> whose application is gedit?   It seems to be operating in my ubuntu as the default editor.   Which is good becaue it has what I want and has some plug-ins I just found that I didn't know that
[14:52] <jrib> M4K4V3l1_: you don't have to use it, use whatever you want
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> kostas_thess1: i'd add the name resolution to /etc/hosts to see if that makes it better
[14:52] <MenZa> mkcottle: Do you need help with something, or are you simply here to rant?
[14:52] <MenZa> mkcottle*
[14:52] <Pici> MenZa: psst, wrong person
[14:52] <MenZa> Sorry, mkcottle :)
[14:52] <ab2qik> any help with f.f. upgrade?
[14:52] <MenZa> My tab-fu is not good today.
[14:53] <M4K4V3l1_> jrib: yes it's true.. ubuntu is so close to Windows problem.. because they thank about the easy with the price of perfomrnance
[14:53] <MenZa> M4K4V3l1_: See the above message from ubottu.
[14:53] <bazhang> M4K4V3l1_, please continue in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:53] <jrib> M4K4V3l1_: you're free to have that opinion.  But this channel is for support, so take your rant elsewhere
[14:54] <M4K4V3l1_> jrib: I made a lot of issue here.. but no response
[14:54] <M4K4V3l1_> so what can I do more ?
[14:54] <jrib> M4K4V3l1_: you aren't asking a support question now.  Maybe try to ask one?
[14:54] <MenZa> !commercial | M4K4V3l1_
[14:54] <MenZa> Humm.
[14:54] <ooboontoo> How do i tell what video card driver I am using
[14:55] <ooboontoo> Anyone?
[14:55] <indus> MenZa: :D
[14:55] <M4K4V3l1_> MenZa: zhy looking for commercial ?? the replacement can be any other linux distro.. especially Debian
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> ooboontoo: sudo lshw -C display
[14:55] <M4K4V3l1_> why *
[14:55] <indus> ooboontoo: lshw -c nvm
[14:55] <kostas_thess1> ActionParsnip i have it there
[14:55] <indus> ActionParsnip:beat me to it
[14:55] <MenZa> M4K4V3l1_: Commercial support from Canonical is what I was attempting to get information about from the bot.
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> kostas_thess1: ok now restart networking and see how you go
[14:56] <M4K4V3l1_> jrib: maybe you wasnt here.. but you will be my last chance
[14:56] <kostas_thess1> i have make it
[14:56] <jrib> MenZa: !support gets you there after a while iirc
[14:56] <kostas_thess1> and reboot all the system
[14:56] <indus> !paid
[14:56] <kostas_thess1> but nothing
[14:56] <MenZa> jrib: I'll keep that in mind :)
[14:56] <indus> MenZa: www.ubuntu.com/support
[14:56] <MenZa> That too.
[14:57] <blackxored> where I can find the definition of pgp key expiration and what's useful for and guidelines for choosing dates ???
[14:57] <kostas_thess1> indus do you know any kind of help how to fix the error "no route to host?"
[14:57] <blackxored> koshari, route -n ?? :P or the host isn't alive ;P
[14:57] <indus> kostas_thess1: sorry i dont
[14:57] <jrib> blackxored: try #gnupg
[14:57] <blackxored> jrib, thanks
[14:58] <M4K4V3l1_> jrib: my last ubuntu issue is that I can't mount a remote directory with NFS.. details : http://pastebin.com/m5592502
[14:58] <indus> kostas_thess1: you are in safe hands with ActionParsnip
[14:58] <jrib> M4K4V3l1_: ask the channel
[14:58] <kostas_thess1> thanks indus i knjow it ;)
[14:58] <sdwrage> Hey all
[14:58] <albasheers> I am using ubuntu intrepid  and have inserted edubuntu 9.04  ,it autoplayed then add/remove application opened after that I removed edubuntu cd ,but  now I am getting this " not all updates  can be installed " , can anybody tell me how can I fix this ,I don't want to upgrade to ubuntu jaunty
[14:59] <blackxored> kostas_thess1, is the host alive/?
[14:59] <indus> sdwrage: hellooo
[14:59] <sdwrage> where is the most common place to put downloads that you need to compile?
[14:59] <kostas_thess1> blackxored yes
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> indus: you wish ;)
[14:59] <blackxored> kostas_thess1, so it's on the same subnet?
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> sdwrage:   The source code can go wherver you want it to. organize it hopw you see fit.
[14:59] <kostas_thess1> i connect to the machine over the internet
[14:59] <kostas_thess1> via putty
[14:59] <jrib> M4K4V3l1_: what you pastebinned doesn't show anything wrong
[14:59] <sdwrage> Dr_Willis, k... thought there may be a standard :P
[15:00] <kostas_thess1> so its alive:p
[15:00] <mkcottle> Aviram, tried the command line sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-jaunty as suggested... replies with E: Couldn't find package linux-backports-modules-jaunty .
[15:00] <blackxored> kostas_thess1, that wasn't what I asked the host you're targetting in on the same subnet as you're?
[15:00] <M4K4V3l1_> it's simple and basic configuration
[15:00] <M4K4V3l1_> ok it's in public so everybody is concerned.. thx
[15:00] <M4K4V3l1_> by the why I am using intrepid too
[15:00] <indus> albasheers: it wont update to 9.04
[15:00] <M4K4V3l1_> jrib: that's it.. so where is the problem.. this is the question
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> sdwrage:  when compiling stuff from source theres no standard. :) just common practices.. you can oranize things how ever you want. Make a Projects dir.. make a dir called Source.. or Not...
[15:00] <kostas_thess1> when you say the same subnet you say the subnet at pc and subnet at this pc i am now?
[15:00] <jrib> M4K4V3l1_: what *is* the problem?
[15:00] <indus> albasheers: just do a sudo apt-get update and it should disappear
[15:01] <albasheers> indus : I tried it , but not working
[15:01] <blackxored> kostas_thess1, I say something like you being 192.168.100.1 and your target 192.168.100.129
[15:01] <indus> albasheers: not working means whattt
[15:01] <Aviram> Internet is online? mkcottle?
[15:01] <blackxored> kostas_thess1, if it not then you have to check your gateway with "route -n"
[15:01] <mkcottle> no - that's the problem.  wireless digital switch isn't on
[15:01] <dratone> what if you try apt-cache search linux-backports-modules-jaunty ?
[15:01] <Aviram> so connect it using a cable
[15:01] <mkcottle> I can try that dratone.
[15:02] <jrib> M4K4V3l1_: maybe this helps you: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/network-file-system.html
[15:02] <kostas_thess1> blackxored http://pastebin.com/m3d1a8fe9
[15:02] <albasheers> indus: I am getting  " not all updates are installed
[15:02] <indus> albasheers: in terminal?
[15:02] <albasheers> indus :http://imagebin.org/68535
[15:02] <n-iCe> hehe
[15:02] <M4K4V3l1_> jrib: ok when I made this command, I got this error message : root@far-laptop:~# mount 172.16.50.52:/home/amine /mnt/home
[15:02] <M4K4V3l1_> mount.nfs: access denied by server while mounting 172.16.50.52:/home/amin
[15:02] <skuld> Hi!  I need some help with apache
[15:02] <skuld> ...maybe
[15:02] <thiebaude> linden940, did that work last night?
[15:02] <ooboontoo> No matter what version of ubuntu I install, I am unable to change the brightness of my LCD on a common laptop (HP dv1000). Normally the fix of echo -n 90 > /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness, does not work, and the file with the brightness file in the proc tree just says <not supported>
[15:02] <linden940> yea
[15:02] <blackxored> kostas_thess1, so you have a default gateway try a traceroute to the host
[15:02] <M4K4V3l1_> jrib: ok thanks.. I will check it
[15:03] <linden940> i am trying 2 work with my panels now...try 2 get it the way i want them
[15:03] <albasheers> indus:http://imagebin.org/68535
[15:03] <linden940> ty 4 ur help tho man
[15:03] <thiebaude> linden940, ahh, ok
[15:03] <thiebaude> linden940, hey, np
[15:03] <indus> albasheers: i cant open that link
[15:03] <skuld> I configued my apache server, it works and connects on my internal IP address (192.x.x.x) but when I try to connect to any of the sites or by using the public IP (216.x.x.x) I get "unable to connect"
[15:03] <kostas_thess1> blackxored if i make traceroute to the router 192.168.2.1 make it if i will do www.google.com it doesent ....
[15:03] <indus> albasheers: ok saw it
[15:03] <indus> albasheers: ok just cancel it, and try later
[15:03] <blackxored> kostas_thess1, then it's a problem with the router
[15:04] <indus> albasheers: this is an intrepid partial upgrade not 9.04
[15:04] <indus> albasheers: why do you worry?
[15:04] <albasheers> indus : I tried that and I even restarted the system
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> skuld:  if you are connecting to the internet via a router. You will need tos set up proper port fowarding on the router.
[15:04] <indus> albasheers: also go to system>administration>software sources and remove cd rom
[15:04] <linden940> thiebaude, do u know of a good dock?
[15:04] <kostas_thess1> blackxored is possible the problem to be becouse i have opened all ports from 1 to 65535 to the ip of the pc
[15:04] <albasheers> indus:ok
[15:04] <kostas_thess1> is that a problem?
[15:04] <ooboontoo> Anyone a bug guru? Need help with lcd brightness change
[15:04] <skuld> I thought I did that.  is there a way to check...using the terminal commands (like iptables I think it is?)
[15:04] <apparle> how to fix this http://paste.ubuntu.com/288786/ I am trying to compile this package http://downloads.sourceforge.net/ponyprog/Pony_Prog2000-2.07c.tar.gz
[15:05] <thiebaude> linden940, awn
[15:05] <thiebaude> !awn
[15:05] <Aviram> I changed kernel
[15:05] <Aviram> I finally see the ALSA device
[15:05] <Aviram> but it wont make a sound
[15:05] <Aviram> :C
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> skuld:  you may of done it wrong. You could check the various port scanning sites to see if any of them show the proper ports open.
[15:05] <rsk> /home/apparle/PonyProg2000-2.07c/v/includex/v/v_defs.h:104:27: error: X11/Intrinsic.h: No such file or directory
[15:05] <Aviram> and how do I make the old kernel the default one?
[15:05] <skuld> okay, let me try that
[15:05] <rsk> you are missing headers apparle
[15:05] <Aviram> MenZa
[15:05] <apparle> rsk: which package should I install
[15:05] <rsk> i don't know
[15:06] <thijs_> Can anyone help me with random freezes in ubuntu 8.10
[15:06] <apparle> rsk: I can see its somehow related to X11 but which one
[15:06] <rsk> apparle: probably multiple
[15:06] <skuld> isn't there a linux command that shows me the open, listening ports?
[15:06] <apparle> rsk: maybe but which one :)
[15:06] <thijs_> skuld, netstat -tulpn ?
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> Aviram:  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and set teh proper # in the 'default #' line. grub starts counting at 0 for that # first entry is 0, 2md is 1 and so on.
[15:07] <linden940> brb
[15:07] <rsk> apparle: i don't know
[15:07] <meanieface> skuld: nmap will work too
[15:07] <thiebaude> brb
[15:08] <skuld> I see 0.0.0.0:80 under the Listen address
[15:08] <skuld> shouldn't that be my public IP instead?
[15:08] <adaptr> that's fine
[15:08] <Pici> skuld: 0.0.0.0 means to listen on all addresses.
[15:09] <skuld> ok
[15:09] <apparle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/297528/ This error come after fresh install
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> skuld:  those commands are not showilg that the router is or is not properly set to forward however.
[15:10] <Darkomen> can i install an beryl window manager in ubuntu,but the problem is i have a low class computer :(
[15:10] <indus> albasheers: so does it work?
[15:11] <[1]sassyn> hi
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> Darkomen:  you can install compiz, its installed by default..   Your definition of LOW class may differ from ours.. try it and see  if it works.. or state your specs.
[15:11] <indus> Darkomen: beryl is extinct , its compiz now
[15:11] <indus> Darkomen: ya enabled default on capable systems
[15:12] <albasheers> indus: I did that again it is showing me to do partial update
[15:12] <skuld> I went to a website with a port scanner, stated that port 80 is open
[15:12] <indus> albasheers: ya thats fine, but avoid partial upgrades, wait a day
[15:12] <ooboontoo> Four days and I still cant find a resolution to my LCD brightness issue. I have a 4 year old laptop, and no one else seems to have the same problem.
[15:12] <skuld> can anybody get to the site.... http://localexpresscl.com
[15:13] <albasheers> indus:ok
[15:13] <indus> albasheers: its because not all packages have been built ,some probably held back
[15:13] <Solar_Flares> Is this the ubuntu support channel?
[15:13] <indus> albasheers: it wont upgrade you to 9.04 dont worry
[15:13] <Darkomen> what a are the specific requirment in compwiz?
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> Solar_Flares:  yes.
[15:13] <albasheers> indus: thanks
[15:13] <blackxored> kostas_thess1, no, it's outgoing traffic which is being filtered, it's hard to tell without seeing your tables, but that may be the problem
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> Solar_Flares:  thats what the topic says. :)
[15:13] <Darkomen> what a are the specific requirment in compwiz?
[15:13] <kostas_thess1> i think blackxored you say iptables?
[15:13] <Solar_Flares> Ubuntu bricked my windows. Is there any chance, to get it back?
[15:13] <meanieface> ooboontoo: what is the problem with the lcd?
[15:13] <indus> Darkomen: card should support 3d
[15:13] <meanieface> ooboontoo: it's too dark?
[15:14] <erUSUL> !details | Solar_Flares
[15:14] <ooboontoo> meanieface I am unable to change the brightness with the FN keys, nor can i change it with the command line
[15:14] <indus> anyone here who can help me
[15:14] <blackxored> kostas_thess1, your router's table
[15:14] <meanieface> ooboontoo: hold on
[15:14] <ooboontoo> meanieface the other FN keys work, but not brightnes up/down
[15:14] <Solar_Flares> Jaunty 9.04, on partition 4, windows ulcpc xp partition 3
[15:14] <indus> !who
[15:14] <Solar_Flares> gives me a bluescreen after the windows logo.
[15:14] <StaRetji> Hello :) Not sure is this the right place to ask, but how do I update mesa from x-updates
[15:15] <erUSUL> Solar_Flares: what does that have to do with ubuntu ?
[15:15] <meanieface> ooboontoo: are you using hardy?
[15:15] <Solar_Flares> erUSUL: It bricked it?
[15:15] <kostas_thess1> blackxored until yesterday it works fine the downloads , etc. after opened all ports from 1 to 65535 from router to machine the problem has started
[15:15] <indus> Solar_Flares: how do you know ubuntu bricked it
[15:15] <ooboontoo> meanieface: Tried Hardy, Jaunty, and even on to Karmic, same issue, every version
[15:15] <Darkomen> Inno 3D RIVA TNT2 MODEL 64/MODEL 64 PRO ->is this ok if i will run an compiz in my ubuntu?
[15:15] <indus> Solar_Flares: but anyways, what is the exact problem,
[15:15] <indus> unless its been stated already
[15:16] <Solar_Flares> indus: it was working before i installed ubuntu, after installatiob => not working.
[15:16] <Darkomen> Inno 3D RIVA TNT2 MODEL 64/MODEL 64 PRO ->is this ok if i will run an compiz in my ubuntu?
[15:16] <meanieface> ooboontoo: not sure if this will work but you can give it a shot http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-your-laptops-brightness-function-keys-operating-properly-in-hardy.html
[15:16] <indus> Solar_Flares: so next question, what do you mean 'not working' , do u see a boot menu
[15:16] <gbrethen> ubuntu jaunty - can't get sametime support for empathy?
[15:16] <erUSUL> indus: when windows boots it gets a BSOD
[15:17]  * indus patience is a virtue
[15:17] <ooboontoo> meanieface tried that already. The issue with that is the scripts are pointing to /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness, but those files dont exist
[15:17] <Solar_Flares> indus: yeah, grub loads, selecting windows, windows startx and crashes after the... boot screen. you know, that little blue thing that goes from right to left...
[15:17] <indus> erUSUL: oh ubuntu gives brown color , bsod is windows own creation :)
[15:17] <meanieface> ooboontoo: i see, ok let me dig some more
[15:17] <dominai> how is it that all the sudden i can not su,... says authentication failure
[15:17] <Darkomen> Inno 3D RIVA TNT2 MODEL 64/MODEL 64 PRO ->is this ok if i will run an compiz in my ubuntu?
[15:17] <Darkomen> Inno 3D RIVA TNT2 MODEL 64/MODEL 64 PRO ->is this ok if i will run an compiz in my ubuntu?
[15:17] <indus> Solar_Flares: reinstall windows or repair it, this has nothing to do with ubuntu
[15:17] <ooboontoo> meanieface on this laptop the files are /proc/acpi/video/GFX0/DD0(x)/brightness, and the brightness file only has <not supported>
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> Darkomen:  try it and see is the ultimate answer.. I would guess.. its going to be sluggish.
[15:18] <indus> Solar_Flares: check if in bios, plug and play O/S is set to no ,( if u have such an option that is)
[15:18] <Solar_Flares> indus: so its like "hard men dont make backups, but cry often."
[15:18] <ooboontoo> meanieface the part that gets me, is this was a common laptop, and other users experience the ability to change the brightness level, but I cant
[15:18] <meanieface> ooboontoo: what is the laptop brand?
[15:18] <meanieface> ooboontoo: and model
[15:18] <indus> Solar_Flares: also, did u try pressing f 8 to acess additional boot options
[15:19] <ooboontoo> meanieface: HP paviliion dv1000
[15:19] <apparle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/297528/ This error come after fresh install Plz help
[15:19] <Solar_Flares> indus: nope...
[15:19] <indus> Solar_Flares: last known good configuration
[15:19] <Solar_Flares> i will try that
[15:19] <Solar_Flares> thanks.
[15:19] <indus> Solar_Flares: i suggest windows channel also :)
[15:19] <meanieface> ooboontoo: haha, man i've serviced so many of those things
[15:19] <Solar_Flares> lost known good configuration ^^
[15:19] <Solar_Flares> thanks guys
[15:19] <indus> Solar_Flares: welcome
[15:19] <meanieface> ooboontoo: hold on im searching
[15:19] <indus> erUSUL: i do believe grub might mess windows mbr
[15:20] <indus> erUSUL: a faulty grub that is
[15:20] <indus> happened to me lately
[15:20] <indus> nvm
[15:20] <indus> i gtg now
[15:20] <indus> ciao a tutti
[15:20] <ooboontoo> meanieface mines the special edition, but the only thing that changed with that is the case and i think a remote or something, the hw is still the same as the normal dv1000
[15:20] <thijs_> how do i upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 from CLI ? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't seem to do the trick
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade | thijs_
[15:22] <Darkomen> Dr_Willis: what do you mean bhy slugish
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> Darkomen:  slow.. go try it and see.
[15:24] <daevski> Can anyone tell me why I should switch to Ubuntu Server as opposed to setting up a file server on Ubuntu desktop?
[15:24] <ooboontoo> meanieface more info to add, I know changing of the brightness is not an issue, as if i turn it on with the AC attached, its full brightness, and if I turn it on with the laptop unplugged, its to its lowest setting.
[15:24] <ooboontoo> daevski: no reason if its just a file server
[15:24] <SPhcT> hello... with drive mounting on ubuntu,
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> daevski:  i use my desktops as servers all the time. :)   The server kernelhas a few different features.. but thats about it.
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> !mount | SPhcT
[15:25] <strikepl> jest tu ktos z polski  ?
[15:25] <downstar> ooobontoo: your battery may not be able to power your brightness then. its normal with laptops from being overcharged to kill the battery.
[15:25] <pqrstuv> Dr_Willis: What kind of server? Is it web-server?
[15:25] <daevski> oobuntoo, Dr_Willis, thanks -- thanks all I wanted to know :)
[15:25] <strikepl> albo ktos kto mowi po polsku
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> pqrstuv:  it could be,.. but its just my lan file server
[15:25] <bazhang> !pl | strikepl
[15:25] <meanieface> ooboontoo: it's not so much the lcd but the function keys im looking into
[15:25] <daevski> oobuntoo, Dr_Willis, Do you know of any tutorial I could follow to set it up?
[15:26] <meanieface> ooboontoo:  you are right though doesn't seem that many people have this problem
[15:26] <ooboontoo> meanieface: I used the (fix hotkeys) ubuntu docs wiki, and while running the keymap, the FN keys are not being recognized by ubuntu
[15:26] <pqrstuv> Dr_Willis: Samba?
[15:26] <ooboontoo> meanieface but as far as i know, there is no other way to change those keymaps
[15:27] <ooboontoo> meanieface if i could just change it to Cntl+up/down, id be fine with that, but its not built that way
[15:27] <meanieface> ooboontoo: have you tried a different keyboard layout?
[15:27] <ooboontoo> meanieface you know.. i havent, one sec,
[15:28] <a931bw> guys
[15:28] <a931bw> i installed java
[15:28] <a931bw> on ubuntu 9.04
[15:28] <LuciusMare> hello,ubuntu is compatibile with LSB 3.1 or 3.2?
[15:28] <a931bw> but it wont work in ff
[15:28] <downstar> ff?
[15:28] <a931bw> firefox
[15:28] <downstar> firefox?
[15:28] <thiebaude> a931bw, did you get sun-java6-plugin?
[15:29] <a931bw> ?
[15:29] <a931bw> lemme check
[15:29] <a931bw> nope
[15:30] <downstar> go to add/remove and download sun-java. thats what u need for firefox
[15:30] <ooboontoo> meanieface well the keyboard model option didnt change anything
[15:30] <a931bw> sun java runtime?
[15:30] <meanieface> ooboontoo: ok try this
[15:30] <downstar> sun-java6-plugin i think its called.
[15:30] <meanieface> ooboontoo: open a terminal and type xev
[15:30] <thiebaude> a931bw, or just sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin and sun-java6-jre
[15:31] <meanieface> ooboontoo: press the function key and see what it gives you
[15:31] <a931bw> thanks guys
[15:31] <a931bw> and
[15:31] <LuciusMare> hello,ubuntu is compatibile with LSB 3.1 or 3.2?
[15:31] <SPhcT> I have specific problem with mounting windows drives...
[15:31] <ooboontoo> meanieface same as before, nothing
[15:31] <a931bw> which desktop meneger u will recomend?
[15:31] <a931bw> 512 ram 256 mb VRAM
[15:31] <thiebaude> LuciusMare, what is LSB?
[15:32] <pqrstuv> Is anyone here using irssi?
[15:32] <ooboontoo> meanieface but every other function key works, and xev gets the input, just not FN f7/f8
[15:32] <SPhcT> need help with forced drives mounting..
[15:32] <meanieface> ooboontoo: ok we are getting somewhere though
[15:32] <LuciusMare> thiebaude: linux standard base
[15:33] <a931bw> guys what desktop manager to use?
[15:33] <a931bw> my comp isnt powerfull
[15:33] <a931bw> 512 ram 256 GPU
[15:33] <appleman> whats a good link for learning unix
[15:33] <intangir> a931bw: that should  easily support any of them
[15:33] <junruh> hi
[15:33] <rsk> appleman: what do you want to learn about unix
[15:33] <a931bw> i need fastest
[15:33] <appleman> oh i mean like commands
[15:33] <rsk> a931bw: twm is pretty fast
[15:33] <pqrstuv> appleman: See the topic above.
[15:33] <thiebaude> !wm
[15:33] <intangir> a931bw: i use metacity/gnome, its fast
[15:33] <a931bw> is it usable/
[15:33] <rsk> appleman: commands... for dooing?
[15:34] <a931bw> TWM?
[15:34] <rsk> a931bw: define usaable
[15:34] <rsk> yea
[15:34] <a931bw> sudo apt get twm?
[15:34] <rsk> yep
[15:34] <appleman> i d k i have ubuntu and I'm looking to expand my understanding of linux
[15:34] <pqrstuv> !command
[15:34] <intangir> a931bw: the fastest ones are really limited functionality and .. ugly in most cases
[15:34] <pqrstuv> appleman: ubuntu support
[15:34] <Pici> !usage
[15:34] <thiebaude> a931bw, i thought openbox was good when i used it
[15:34] <pqrstuv> !commands
[15:34] <FiloSottile> if i launch a program from bash, can i get the pid of a process launched by it?
[15:34] <rsk> appleman: doiing things you want to do is the fastest way of learning it, at least for me.
[15:34] <a931bw> openbox
[15:34] <junruh> I need a information about suse linux
[15:34] <a931bw> isnt it virual machine?
[15:34] <appleman> i see.... im not good at reading manuals anyway
[15:34] <sdwrage> How do you remove something that you installed through "make install"?
[15:34] <a931bw> i not need good looking i need just fast
[15:34] <downstar> filosottile: command is ps -al
[15:35] <Pici> junruh: Try #suse
[15:35] <thiebaude> a931bw, fluxbox
[15:35] <a931bw> tring TWM
[15:35] <appleman> so whos the biggest linux guru here with the longest amount of experience?
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> flvwm :)
[15:36] <ikonia> appleman: just ask your question, someone will answer if they know
[15:36] <rsk> a931bw: TWM is _very_ basic but it's the fastest you can have i think.
[15:36] <junruh> I haven't got internet
[15:36] <appleman> ok ikonia
[15:36] <thiebaude> !offtopic | appleman
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> appleman:  get reading... thats the best thing to do.
[15:36] <ab2qik> can the jaunty version of firefox be uninstalled and a fresh one direct from mozilla be downloaded and installed? thanks!
[15:36] <isleshocky77> Is there a way of starting a process through ssh that will stay open even after ssh is closed without using screen?
[15:36] <appleman> i hate reading so does linux play halo?
[15:36] <SPhcT> i have specific problem with windows disks i need get old files but ubuntu dosnt allow me to mount..
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> SPhcT:  try the ntfs-3g command from the command line. Look for error messages.. You may need to use the 'force' option
[15:37] <junruh> appleman, please read my message
[15:37] <FiloSottile> downstar: but i need to get the pid of the program launched by the first one
[15:37] <a931bw> i just mounted my one
[15:37] <appleman> i want to download quake1 off the torrent that came with ubuntu... i am entitled to the copyrights of quake1
[15:37] <ikonia> appleman: halo is an xbox game - so no
[15:37] <appleman> its on pc too
[15:37] <appleman> windows
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> appleman:  if you dont want to read. Stick to windows I guess...   Theres ports of quake1 for linux.
[15:37] <FiloSottile> downstar: i launch a program that launch an other and returns, i want the pid of the socond one in bash
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> !games | appleman
[15:37] <SPhcT> Dr_Willis how i can find out what drives i have pluged in?
[15:37] <ab2qik> pls help nn
[15:37] <junruh> halo isa computergame!
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> SPhcT:  use the 'dmesg' command is one way
[15:38] <ikonia> appleman: ok - so that case you'd need to try with something like wine, which can be discussed in #wine-hq
[15:38] <bazhang> junruh, did you have an ubuntu support question
[15:38] <ab2qik> help needed with firefox install?
[15:38] <junruh> yes
[15:38] <meanieface> ooboontoo: ok try typing xgamma -gamma 0.75 see what happens
[15:39] <ooboontoo> meanieface that doesnt change brightness, that just changes the gamma
[15:39] <appleman> so is ubuntu 9.04 like the best?
[15:39] <kubanc> is there any solution for intel graphic card for playing movies, because when playing videos, the picture is not 100% liguid,
[15:39] <appleman> of all ubuntus
[15:39] <SPhcT> Dr_Willis sdb sdb1 sdb2?
[15:39] <Alex3nder> can anyone help me setup a tvtuner device on ubuntu karmic... the details are here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/86408
[15:39] <a931bw> downloading linux games
[15:39] <ooboontoo> meanieface to be more specific, gamma correction
[15:39] <a931bw> who can give me some links?
[15:39] <FiloSottile> i launch a program that launch an other and returns, i want the pid of the socond one in bash
[15:39] <StaRetji> kubanc add x-updates ppa to you apt sources list
[15:40] <meanieface> ooboontoo: ok, go to this site http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4168042#post4168042
[15:40] <junruh> i will try to open the new ubuntu server . Do you hear something about that?
[15:40] <StaRetji> and then apt-get update and apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[15:41] <kubanc> StaRetji, i cannot add x-updates to my ppa, bacause i had to revert to Xorg 2.4 intel drivers
[15:41] <junruh> Help i need help from Dr. Willi
[15:41] <meanieface> ooboontoo: i know it won't solve your function key problem but its a workaround at best
[15:41] <sdwrage> Anyone, How do you remove something that you installed through "make install"?
[15:41] <SPhcT> Dr_Willis sdb, sdb1... or ata1, ata2..
[15:41] <ooboontoo> meanieface They are two seperate things though, gamma =! lcd brightness. There is a lamp on the LCD that has a brightness level, IE how much light it gives off
[15:41] <appleman> i downloaded bzflag it was pretty cool... warsaw is butt slow i think theres graphic card compatibility problems with my laptop and ubuntu .. i will have to google the model of the laptop and find some sort of intel video driver catalyst to install
[15:41] <junruh> no from Dr. Willid
[15:41] <junruh> oh
[15:42] <junruh> Jeah
[15:42] <ooboontoo> meanieface alot of people misconstrue brightness and gamma, they are two widely different things
[15:42] <junruh> Fuck
[15:42] <FloodBot3> junruh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:42] <bazhang> junruh, watch the language
[15:42] <junruh> Fuckme
[15:42] <Hick0rd> Hello, I installed ubuntu tweak few days ago, it doesnt work as it should be, and caused synaptic not to function at all, making me unable to update my pc. I tried to use all codes , such as sudo apt-get remove, --purge, and none of them worked. I tried to change the status file in usr/share/ubuntu-tweak, and the status file was found to be read only and impossible to modify. how can i get rid of ubuntu tweak and retain my pc as it was?
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> SPhcT:  drive names are /dev/sd## normally. 'ata' is proberly the kind of connection it has
[15:43] <meanieface> ooboontoo: oh i see the backlight
[15:43] <ooboontoo> meanieface even the last post "That's not really the same thing. That's just increasing the color saturation; and not actually brightening the LCD's backlight, resulting in a significant difference in appearance."
[15:43] <meanieface> ooboontoo: yah i just read that
[15:43] <junruh> I don't like your meaning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:43] <Alex3nder> hey Dr_Willis can you take a look at this: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/86408 please... : )
[15:43] <StaRetji> kubanc: Why?
[15:44] <mescal> hi everybody I take an old computer to make a ubuntu working station but i have a problem with the sis drivers
[15:44] <StaRetji> kubanc: Because of the performance? If you are using Jaunty it is safe to add this repo and upgrade dude
[15:44] <mescal> i run on a 22" and my resolution max is 800*600 sniff
[15:45] <mescal> if i try to modify the configuration file X crash
[15:45] <meanieface> ooboontoo: seems as after the breezy distro the function keys got messed up
[15:45] <kubanc> StaRetji, bacause in 9.04 i had a white screen when i log into gnome, so i did what it said in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance, and white screen went away
[15:45] <ooboontoo> meanieface haha aye, but i dont want to go back to breezy
[15:46] <meanieface> ooboontoo: don't blame ya
[15:46] <StaRetji> kubanc: That is history mate, and if something goes wrong you can always roll back to 2.4
[15:46] <ooboontoo> meanieface i started ubuntu on breezy, oh man the headaches
[15:46] <meanieface> ooboontoo: lol
[15:46] <meatbun> what country is abc.com.pl ?
[15:46] <mescal> poland ?
[15:46] <StaRetji> kubanc: New driver is compiled few days ago, I have tested it, works great
[15:46] <Alex3nder> any v4l expertos? :D
[15:46] <mescal> eastern europe
[15:46] <meatbun> mescal, oh yeah. thx
[15:47] <mescal> :)
[15:47] <kubanc> StaRetji, so everything i need to do is just update the ppa for x-updates
[15:47] <mescal> nice country and nice girls over there
[15:47] <meatbun> mescal, http://www.atm.com.pl/  <--- pool lady look like this?
[15:47] <mescal> yep
[15:47] <StaRetji> kubanc, yep, check this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582
[15:48] <Hick0rd> Any ideas on how do I un-install ubuntu-tweak ?
[15:48] <monkey_boy26> hi
[15:48] <mescal> or like this --> http://images.google.fr/images?hl=fr&source=hp&q=poland%20girl&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
[15:48] <StaRetji> Hick0rd apt-get remove?
[15:48] <monkey_boy26> i have a problem
[15:48] <bazhang> mescal, dont paste that here
[15:49] <mescal> i know
[15:49] <monkey_boy26> i need to create a file called boot.img
[15:49] <monkey_boy26> backup of /boot
[15:49] <kubanc> StaRetji, do in need to do A,B,C and D part of tutorial?
[15:49] <Hick0rd> StaRetji, doesn't work
[15:49] <monkey_boy26> how do i create it with .img extension?
[15:49] <mescal> anyone to help me with my X resoltion problem ?
[15:49] <StaRetji> kubanc, I did A and B, but A is enough, just select uxa method in xorg.conf
[15:50] <monkey_boy26> please help
[15:50] <babak> hi
[15:50] <mescal> hi
[15:50] <StaRetji> kubanc, sorry, I did A only :)
[15:50] <babak> how solve this problem?  http://pastebin.com/m1313173d
[15:50] <monkey_boy26> i need to create a file .img
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> Hick0rd:  if you installed it with the package manager system or .deb packages you can use the package manager to remove it
[15:50] <monkey_boy26> so i can mount it later in a directory
[15:50] <monkey_boy26> how do i create it?
[15:51] <monkey_boy26> .img
[15:51] <StaRetji> Hick0rd, what is exact name of the package dude
[15:51] <mescal> under linux monkey ?
[15:51] <kubanc> StaRetji, i did part A a half hour ago, and no change, was it because i didn't update my ppa for X.org?
[15:51] <monkey_boy26> yes
[15:51] <gestaltish> Does anyone know how to enable WPA in Jaunty?
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> monkey_boy26:  what is that .img thing supposed to be anyway?
[15:51] <monkey_boy26> i have to make a backup
[15:51] <rosen> hi
[15:51] <monkey_boy26> of /boot
[15:51] <monkey_boy26> in a file called boot.img
[15:51] <Alex3nder> can anyone help me setup ivtv for my device? details here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/86408
[15:52] <StaRetji> kubanc, most probably
[15:52] <monkey_boy26> so i can later mount this image in a folder
[15:52] <babak> how can solve this problem?  http://pastebin.com/m1313173d
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> monkey_boy26:  you can use 'dd' to image a partition to a file.
[15:52] <monkey_boy26> i want to image just this folder: /boot
[15:52] <StaRetji> Hick0rd, sudo dpkg -P ubuntu-tweak
[15:52] <kubanc> StaRetji, ok, I'll do this now, and tell you what's the status in a few minutes :)
[15:52] <meanieface> ooboontoo: have you tried the gnome-power-manager?
[15:52] <StaRetji> kubanc, good luck, cross fingers :)
[15:53] <ooboontoo> meanieface Yeah, I set all the settings to keep the brightness at high at all times, but if i unplug the laptop and turn it on, it will set the brightness to low every time
[15:53] <mescal> didi you try the dd command ?
[15:53] <StaRetji> kubanc, make sure it is right repo, let me copy my own, wait a sec
[15:53] <mescal> monkaey
[15:53] <meanieface> ooboontoo: grrr
[15:53] <monkey_boy26> yep
[15:53] <ooboontoo> meanieface I wouldnt care about being able to change the brightness at all, if it just stayed at max, because thats how i like it
[15:53] <monkey_boy26> it's not working
[15:53] <Pici> babak: Install the build-essential package: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:53] <monkey_boy26> cause i just want to backup /boot
[15:54] <monkey_boy26> not the whole partition
[15:54] <StaRetji> kubanc
[15:54] <StaRetji> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu jaunty main
[15:54] <StaRetji> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu jaunty main
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> monkey_boy26:  then you should just put /boot files in a archive and be done with it.
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> monkey_boy26:  not sure why you are trying todo all this...
[15:54] <monkey_boy26> it's my homework
[15:54] <monkey_boy26> :))
[15:54] <tiga> hi, I have an old ext3 hard drive from a redhat machine. The boot and swap partitions are good, but the root partition doesn't get recognized as ext3. I've used dd to copy the partition to my machine. Which tools can I use to recover the data off this drive?
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> monkey_boy26:  then You should clarify the question.. you are a bit vague on specifics.
[15:55] <monkey_boy26> i need to backup /boot in a file boot.img and then mount this image in a folder
[15:55] <kubanc> StaRetji, shoudl i do first update and upgrade, and restart gdm
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> monkey_boy26:  you caould make a filesystem in a file.  then copy the files over.
[15:55] <kubanc> StaRetji, or should i update, upgrade, change xorg.conf and restart gmd ?
[15:55] <monkey_boy26> how do i make that?
[15:55] <slabbeh> My partitions are currently ext3, is there going to be a way for me to convert these to ext4 when 9.10 arrives.
[15:55] <slabbeh> ?
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> monkey_boy26:  perhaps read your class notes.. You sould use 'dd' and 'mkfs' and mount. and 'cp'
[15:56] <monkey_boy26> that the problem
[15:56] <monkey_boy26> i can't use mkfs
[15:56] <monkey_boy26> in debian benny
[15:56] <mescal> where i can find the configuration files for the eggdrop irc bot bot installed with apt-get plz ?
[15:56] <StaRetji> kubanc, i wouldn't go that far, just apt-get update and apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel libdrm-intel1 should be enough, than change xorg.conf and the reboot
[15:56] <monkey_boy26> it says command not found
[15:56] <monkey_boy26> i tried installing all the packages
[15:56] <monkey_boy26> but still couldn't use mkfs
[15:56] <Dr_Willis> $ mkfs
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> Usage: mkfs [-V] [-t fstype] [fs-options] device [size]
[15:57] <Pici> monkey_boy26: If you're using debian then you should be asking in #debian
[15:57] <thiebaude> monkey_boy26, you using debian lenny?
[15:57] <monkey_boy26> yep
[15:57] <thiebaude> wrong channel
[15:57] <monkey_boy26> sorry
[15:57] <monkey_boy26> i'm sorry
[15:57] <thiebaude> np
[15:58] <aguitel> slabbeh, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1118295
[15:58] <Dr_Willis> Ibet #debian will LOVE him....
[15:59] <skiquel> how do i turn the ubuntu font dpi stuff off
[15:59] <Gabib> re
[15:59] <ooboontoo> meanieface maybe i should disable acpi
[15:59] <skiquel> its making my applications look wierd
[15:59] <skiquel> i just want the typical, consistent font across everything without having it resized automatically
[16:00] <kubanc> StaRetji, OK, i have the picture, and now for the movie part
[16:00] <meanieface> ooboontoo: you could try it
[16:00] <StaRetji> kubanc ;)
[16:00] <apparle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/297528/ This error come after fresh install Plz help
[16:01] <thiebaude> Dr_Willis, yea i remember when i first went into #debian
[16:01] <kubanc> StaRetji, what can I say, i think it's OK
[16:01] <ooboontoo> meanieface wow i turned it off, still switched it to low brightness
[16:01] <Alex3nder> can anyone help me setup a tvtuner device on ubuntu karmic... the details are here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/86408
[16:02] <kubanc> StaRetji, yep, what can I say, you'r the man :D
[16:02] <Elixir> a lot of package is deleted from my system .. how can I detect them ?
[16:02] <StaRetji> kubanc \o/
[16:02] <junruh> HI there.
[16:02] <ooboontoo> meanieface this is so frustrating... worst exp ive ever had in ubuntu, and ive been using it for 4 years
[16:02] <FiloSottile> how to wait for a process to terminate in bash with its pid
[16:03] <StaRetji> kubanc, hehe, I only had to persuade ya
[16:03] <meanieface> ooboontoo: well at this point im tryin anything try this https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuLaptopButtons
[16:03] <StaRetji> kubanc, everything else was easy
[16:03] <rohtie> Hello, when i plug in a jack cable, the laptop speakers continue to sound. How do I fix this?
[16:04] <kubanc> StaRetji, well, i'm just learning ubuntu and Linux, i hope one day i would be able to have the brain to help someone else, like you did to me today
[16:04] <kubanc> :D
[16:04] <StaRetji> :p
[16:04] <junruh> Ich bin ein Deutscher, (I am a german) Das stimmt voll echt ! Was seit ihr für Opfer?
[16:04] <ooboontoo> meanieface wat package should i install?
[16:04] <rohtie> junruh: Ich bin auch deutsch....
[16:05] <SPhcT> Dr_Willis i have 3 hard drives pluged in but i cant find ther names can u say comand what can mount them and posoble names?
[16:05] <meanieface> ooboontoo: hold on
[16:05] <junruh> Echt? Oida geil!Bist du auch ein Bayer?
[16:05] <hxwxwhxhxa> hi all, i need some help about error " dependency is not satisfiable ". i cannot install any .deb files
[16:05] <rohtie> junruh: Ja :D
[16:05] <ooboontoo> meanieface would rather not install KDE, but if thats my only choice, i may be a convery
[16:05] <ooboontoo> convert
[16:05] <Pici> !de | junruh
[16:06] <Alex3nder> Ich möchte ein Esel Deutsch Schraube
[16:06] <junruh> I a
[16:06] <hxwxwhxhxa> hi all, i need some help about error " dependency is not satisfiable ". i cannot install any .deb files
[16:06] <junruh> ubottu: Wo?
[16:06] <rohtie> hxwxwhxhxa: YOu probably have to install extra libs
[16:07] <hxwxwhxhxa> rohtie: explain, plz xD
[16:07] <meanieface> ooboontoo: what do you use now?
[16:07] <Alex3nder> sorry... was kiddin' :)
[16:07] <junruh> lol
[16:07] <Pici> junruh: #ubuntu-de für deutschsprachige
[16:07] <ooboontoo> meanieface gnome
[16:07] <SPhcT> i have 3 hard drives pluged in but i cant find ther names can u say comand what can mount them and posoble names?
[16:07] <Alex3nder> im tired of cryin for help here! :S
[16:07] <Ceil> What would make a server go unresponsive in every way besides over-heating?
[16:07] <junruh> Wie kann ich den Kanal öffnen?
[16:07] <FiloSottile> how to wait for a process to terminate in bash with its pid
[16:07] <llutz> junruh: draufklicken oder /join #ubuntu-de tippen
[16:08] <Alex3nder> can someone look into this.. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/86408
[16:08] <Alex3nder> please
[16:08] <rohtie> hxwxwhxhxa: youll have to install packages which you package needs
[16:08] <junruh> Ja wo draufklicken
[16:08] <llutz> junruh: auf #ubuntu-de
[16:08] <hxwxwhxhxa> rohtie: i need network-manager-pptp and network-manager-vpnc
[16:08] <rohtie> How do i disable my speakers when my headphones are in?
[16:08] <junruh> WOO IIIIIISSSSSSTTTTT DDDDAAAAASSSSSSSSS???????
[16:08] <Pici> Alex3nder: If no one is answering, maybe no one knows. You can try looking on the forums as well.  Also, perhaps #ubuntu-mythtv can help
[16:09] <rohtie> hxwxwhxhxa: THen type sudo apt-get install network-manager-pptp network-manager-vpnc
[16:09] <SPhcT> i have 3 hard drives pluged in but i cant find ther names can u say comand what can mount them and posoble names?
[16:09] <llutz> junruh: schrei hier nicht rum, tippe es einfach
[16:09] <Alex3nder> Pici, thank you
[16:09] <Alex3nder> i will go to ubuntu-mythtv perhaps :D
[16:09] <junruh> Sorry!
[16:09] <hxwxwhxhxa> rohtie: i can't, because i don't have internet connection, it does not want to update anything
[16:09] <junruh> Bist du ein Nigger?
[16:09] <x_> how do i mount ssh filesystem at boot  with no password prompt
[16:10] <hxwxwhxhxa> rohtie: and i need to install pptp or vpnc so i can configure my vpn
[16:10] <conb123> Hiya does abyb
[16:10] <rohtie> hxwxwhxhxa: How do you use this irc then?
[16:10] <conb123> oops
[16:10] <llutz> thx pici
[16:10] <Pici> llutz: yw
[16:10] <hxwxwhxhxa> rohtie: i am on other computer
[16:10] <conb123> Hiya does anyone know of a way i can convert my ext4 file system to ext3 in jaunty? Can i just change it in /etc/fstab?
[16:10] <hxwxwhxhxa> rohtie: with windows |-(
[16:11] <rohtie> hxwxwhxhxa: You could download the packages you need on the computer you're on and transfer them to your other
[16:11] <SPhcT> i have 3 hard drives pluged in but i cant mount them can u say comand what can mount?
[16:11] <ooboontoo> meanieface: I am downloading Kubuntu 9.04 and gonna install it. I hope this works..
[16:11] <flecharota> sabeis como conecto oftopic?
[16:11] <hxwxwhxhxa> rohtie : i tried, and when i tryed to install them, i get error "Dependency not satisfiable"
[16:11] <Pici> flecharota: /join #ubuntu-es-offtopic
[16:11] <flecharota> gracias pici
[16:12] <rohtie> hxwxwhxhxa: Then youll probably have to download their dependencies too ^^
[16:12] <flecharota>  /join #ubuntu-es-offtopic
[16:12] <ooboontoo> meanieface, because this is 4 days of searching and looking through bug reports and asking for help. for something as simple as changing the backlight brightness
[16:12] <Ceil> What would make a computer go unresponsive besides over-heating?
[16:12] <rohtie> Anyone know how to dissable speakers when headphones are plugged in?
[16:12] <hxwxwhxhxa> rohtie: but i dunno what are their dependencies :(
[16:12] <rohtie> hxwxwhxhxa: They are packages needed by your package
[16:12] <flecharota>  /join #ubuntu-es-offtopic
[16:12] <jbicha> Happy 5th Birthday!
[16:12] <conb123> Ceil: To many processes?
[16:13] <meanieface> ooboontoo: i can understand your pain, it's buggin the crap outta me and it's not even my problem
[16:13] <flecharota> como cambio d canal plis
[16:13] <Fenix1> where can i learn bash shell use
[16:13] <rohtie> hxwxwhxhxa: It's like baking a cake. You will need multiple igrediens
[16:13] <apparle> I want to compile a package with g++ 3.4 how to
[16:13] <hxwxwhxhxa> rohtie: and where i can see wich packages need my packages? loL
[16:13] <meanieface> ooboontoo: 4 days would be way past my threshold
[16:13] <equinox_> oki couple of questions?
[16:13] <equinox_> 1-why the heck after this many years, ubuntu, hasn't found a way of keeping the packages up to date..
[16:13] <ooboontoo> meanieface like i said, I wouldnt mind if it was 100% all the time, but its not even picking up its own settings, and doing whatever the hell it wants
[16:13] <equinox_> 2- what the F*CK is that software center.. like... WTF?
[16:13] <equinox_> 3- after all this time, still problems such as flash, and drivers..
[16:13] <equinox_> 4- after all this time, still a weird Boot up, why don't they FIRE GRUB...
[16:13] <FloodBot3> equinox_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:13] <ooboontoo> meanieface I might try Arch
[16:13] <rohtie> hxwxwhxhxa: You will find out when you try to install the packages needed by your packages
[16:14] <Alex3nder> Pici, that is a dead channel you gave me... btw.. how long does a usual response take on launchpad answers...??
[16:14] <Ceil> conb123: Maybe I should be more specific.  The computer is my server.  The load has never been ever .5  It is very modest hardware but it just has almost nothing to do.  I leave it on (and headless) and it sits under the desk.  Inevitably it gets completely frozen every 1 - 3 days and I have to restart it.  It's not over-heating.  Any ideas?
[16:14] <rsk> equinox_: do you expect an answear or do you just want to complan?
[16:14] <hxwxwhxhxa> rohtie : it does not say, dude, it is just that freaking error
[16:14] <rohtie> How do i disable my speakers?
[16:14] <rsk> complain*
[16:14] <rsk> rohtie: unpluc the cord
[16:14] <rsk> unplug. bah fin keyboard.
[16:14] <rohtie> hxwxwhxhxa: Then you're pretty fucked
[16:14] <equinox_> rsk just complain..  dont think there are answers to that
[16:14] <Pici> Alex3nder: Most channels aren't as busy as this one, and I don't use asnwers, so I'm afraid I can't answer that one.
[16:14] <rohtie> rsk: They are laptop speakers
[16:14] <hxwxwhxhxa> rohtie: thanks :)
[16:14] <rsk> equinox_: there is, would you be intrested?
[16:14] <Pici> rohtie: Please mind your language here.
[16:14] <ruby_on_tails> hello
[16:15] <rohtie> Pici: Sorry
[16:15] <equinox_> sure bless me.. rsk
[16:15] <rohtie> hxwxwhxhxa: YOu should try aksing someone else. I'm still a newbie :3
[16:15] <conb123> Ceil: Well how long have you had it maybe some of the components have just gone bad
[16:15] <hxwxwhxhxa> rohtie: ok, thanks anyway!
[16:15] <Alex3nder> Pici thanks anyway! :)
[16:15] <jrib> apparle: http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/autoconf.html#Defining-Variables
[16:15] <ruby_on_tails> I want to know about the practical uses and power of bash scripting, anyone can let me know a good reading material ?
[16:15] <rsk> equinox_: packages are updated twice a year, with some exceptions. like firefox usually gets a new version when it's out. + all other packages always gets security updates.
[16:15] <rohtie> does anyone know how i can disable my speakers when my headphones are plugged in?
[16:16] <prince_jammys> ruby_on_tails: /join #bash
[16:16] <hxwxwhxhxa> how can i solve error "Dependency not satisfied"?
[16:16] <rsk> equinox_: software center is just a publicity stunt i think, but it works good i think.
[16:16] <jrib> ruby_on_tails: tldp.org ask #bash too
[16:16] <hxwxwhxhxa> how can i solve error "Dependency not satisfiable"?
[16:16] <ruby_on_tails> aah k thanks
[16:16] <rsk> equinox_: what problems with drivers? also flash it not ubuntu's fault it's adobe who make it.
[16:16] <Ceil> conb123: It is probably 7 or 8 years old.  I have only owned it for 2 months.  Most recently I had it up for 3 days.  I suspect (as is the pattern) if I rebooted it right now it would run fine for at least a couple hours.  What components going bad would cause a problem like this??
[16:16] <rsk> equinox_: and what do you mean by weird boot?
[16:17] <SPhcT> i have 3 hard drives pluged in but i cant mount them can u say comand what can mount?
[16:17] <hxwxwhxhxa> how can i solve error "Dependency not satisfiable"?
[16:17] <khtaam> hxwxwhxhxa, have you downloaded a deb file?
[16:17] <Ziber> What would I do about http://zpaste.org/388 ?
[16:17] <rohtie> hxwxwhxhxa: I just thought of something. YOu could search for the package on the internet. Their dependencies are mostly there
[16:17] <hxwxwhxhxa> khtaam: yes
[16:17] <equinox_> rsk, for example, since xp, have nver been successful with dual boot..
[16:17] <nickapalooza> Ceil: most likely the HDD, possibly some RAM
[16:17] <hxwxwhxhxa> rohtie: ok
[16:17] <conb123> Ceil: Well hard drives start to break enevtually
[16:17] <jrib> ruby_on_tails: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/using/bash is kind of interesting to go through and understand some of the complicated ones
[16:17] <andypiper> is the Ubuntu One service enabled yet? when I start the app on Karmic it sends me to a launchpad auth page, but clicking ok returns an error
[16:17] <equinox_> rsk you install and setup grub to pick up your windows partition
[16:17] <SPhcT> need help with hard drives
[16:18] <Pici> Alex3nder : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[16:18] <khtaam> hxwxwhxhxa,  run: sudo dpkg -i <debfile> in i terminal
[16:18] <SPhcT> how can i mount them manualy..
[16:18] <Pici> Alex3nder: sorry, mistab
[16:18] <mayajowo> alow
[16:18] <equinox_> once you reboot, and boot back into ubunut, windows won't start any more
[16:18] <Ceil> conb123: nickapalooza:  Great!  Thanks guys! :)  I was baffled because none of my logs had any errors.  I'll try replacing those parts first.  Thanks again! :)
[16:18] <hxwxwhxhxa> khtaam: and this will install it without any questions? xD
[16:18] <Pici> andypiper: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic issues please.
[16:18] <nickapalooza> Ceil: np
[16:18] <rsk> equinox_: i've never had that problem so i can't give any insight on it
[16:18] <khtaam> hxwxwhxhxa, no, but it should show the dependencys
[16:18] <Ziber> What would I do about http://zpaste.org/388 ?
[16:19] <hxwxwhxhxa> khtaam: haha, okay, going to try it
[16:19] <apparle> jrib: I have downloaded a source and compiling it.... and the site says use 3.4 .....so what to do
[16:19] <jrib> apparle: did you read the link I gave you that answers your question?
[16:19] <skuld> does anybody know what the terminal command is to see my iptables?
[16:19] <SPhcT> Pici kac you say how mount if i get eror m unable to mount volume storge
[16:19] <andypiper> Pici: thanks
[16:19] <LuciusMare> Hello,when i want to print something,everything black is printed in small lines,not one big black area,but like 3 lines per inch.I have Epson stylus DX4000.
[16:19] <jrib> !iptables > skuld
[16:19] <Pici> SPhcT: I'm not sure what you're asking.
[16:20] <mayajowo> ubuntu
[16:20] <Ceil> skuld: sudo iptables -L
[16:20] <skuld> sometimes I hate mirc.  I don't see any pm's
[16:20] <SPhcT> Pici so i have 3 hard drives from windows and i want save files but i cant mount one..
[16:20] <jrib> skuld: use a decent client then...
[16:20] <nickapalooza> skuld: sounds should let you know?
[16:20] <conb123> So guys do you know of any way i can convert my ext4 partition to ext3 in jaunty?
[16:20] <equinox_> rsk also another weird thing, whenver i turn off by computer, there's this screen that comes up, as if the screen was dead
[16:20] <LuciusMare> anyone,please?
[16:21] <mugwort13> Has anyone had problems with file permissions when uploading to a windows based web server?
[16:21] <equinox_> rsk it shows up like some black patches, with some yellow white.,
[16:21] <apparle> jrib: did not understand it..... and there is a package gcc-3.4 but there is not package like g++-3.4
[16:21] <equinox_> rsk can't quite explain.. you know what.. will comeback with a better compiled list of the troubles and details on how to recreate them
[16:21] <LuciusMare> Hello,when i want to print something,everything black is printed in small lines,not one big black area,but like 3 lines per inch.I have Epson stylus DX4000.
[16:21] <conb123> LuciusMare: have you tried replacing the ink?
[16:21] <jrib> apparle: that's a pretty ridiculous claim to be honest, I'm sorry
[16:21] <LuciusMare> conb123: its new
[16:22] <Jeruvy> mugwort13: its pretty common, even on ubuntu systems :)
[16:22] <conb123> LuciusMare: So get a refund then
[16:22] <nickapalooza> LuciusMare: sounds like the ink cartridge
[16:22] <jrib> apparle: read the line that starts "For example"
[16:22] <nickapalooza> i would get a replacement
[16:22] <SPhcT> Pici so i have 3 hard drives from windows and i want save files but i cant mount one..
[16:22] <LuciusMare> i would bet its driver error,it does not even send me information about cartridges.
[16:22] <LuciusMare> but whatever
[16:22] <jrib> apparle: gcc-3.4 includes g++
[16:22] <LuciusMare> going to try under windows,coming back in...5 mins?
[16:23] <Pici> SPhcT: Ask the channel, I'm a bit busy at the moment, sorry.
[16:23] <nickapalooza> he asks for help but has his own ideas :/
[16:23] <jrib> apparle: why don't you step back and tell us what you are compiling?
[16:23] <SPhcT> i have 3 hard drives from windows and i want save files but i cant mount one..
[16:23] <skuld> oh I see it!  it was buried in another window!  thanks!
[16:23] <apparle> jrib: ohh... actually the 'make' already looks for g++ 3.4 but I din't find the package so I asked
[16:23] <conb123> SPhcT: Which ubuntu version are you using?
[16:24] <SPhcT> 8.10
[16:24] <SPhcT> conb123 8.10
[16:25] <conb123> SPhct: Try doing an fdisk -l, then find the windows partitions (ntfs or fat) then just do sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /PARTITION -o force
[16:25] <conb123> SPhcT: Sorry probably should have said you have to do sudo fdisk -l
[16:26] <epaphus> Hello, is it possible to install the base (and only the base) from the alternate cd?
[16:26] <rsk> equinox_: sure
[16:26] <conb123> epaphus: Yeah
[16:26] <tavi> hy
[16:26] <tavi> i have problems whit my print
[16:26] <synackfin> does anyone know why linux is auto-negotiating some disks as 1.5Gbps and others at 3.0Gbps from my DAS (using sil24 module)?  The disks are all identical 2TB drives, and it's a single eSata connection
[16:26] <epaphus> conb123, but with the regular cd.. it isnt possible right? the deskptop one
[16:26] <synackfin> i'm running linux software raid5 on the disks, and it's causing corruption (mdadm detects the corruption and randomly disables disks depending on which one got auto-negotiated at 1.5Gbps)
[16:26] <SPhcT> conb123 it find out sda and sdb? thats right?
[16:26] <Pici> epaphus: No. You'd need the minimal CD for that. The alternate CD does not allow you to pick what packages you want.
[16:27] <tavi> print same page that i have printed few days ago ...and not the one i want now
[16:27] <tavi> any ideea?
[16:27] <conb123> epaphus: no with the live cd it is not but with the laternate you can choose the packages
[16:27] <conb123> epaphus: oh sorry thought it did my bad
[16:28] <mikebeecham1> hi guys....is there a Microsoft Publisher alternative for Ubuntu?
[16:29] <SPhcT> conb123 uhm... so under Device Boot is sda1, sda2 under another Device boot is sdb1
[16:29] <Pici> mikebeecham1: scribus comes to mind as a possible alternative. Its in the repos.
[16:29] <mikebeecham1> will look now Pici
[16:29] <mikebeecham1> thanks
[16:30] <kelohippi1> is inkscape the best available vector graphix program for linux?
[16:30] <preecher> does ubuntu 9.04 come with different window managers
[16:31] <Pici> preecher: It comes with compiz and metacity by default.  There are others in the repositories if you want to install them.
[16:32] <preecher> Pici,  thx
[16:32] <riyonuk> Can someone assist me in installing Arch Linux from a USB, to the same USB, while still keeping my files on there [=
[16:32] <riyonuk> *Ubuntu
[16:36] <ruby_on_tails> what will happen if I do kill init in my terminal ?
[16:36] <conb123> Does anyone know of a way for me to convert my ext4 partition to ext3 in jaunty?
[16:37] <prince_jammys> you hopefully get a permission denied error.
[16:37] <grawity> ruby_on_tails: If init receives SIGINT, it will act the same as if Ctrl-Alt-Del was pressed.
[16:37] <SPhcT> conb123 ntfs-3g shows some error
[16:37] <grawity> ruby_on_tails: Other signals are ignored by init, AFAIK.
[16:38] <conb123> SPhct: It does? What error?
[16:38] <preecher> i found a page describing how to download other desktops such as KDE andenlightenment--if i install these will i still be able to use and have my gnome if i dont like them
[16:38] <ruby_on_tails> bash: kill: (1) - Operation not permitted
[16:38] <ruby_on_tails> how can I kill init ?
[16:38] <grawity> ruby_on_tails: Well, you need root to kill any process that you do not own.
[16:38] <ruby_on_tails> hmm
[16:38] <joaopinto> and killing init is a very bad idea
[16:39] <llutz> why should one want to kill init?
[16:39] <ruby_on_tails> for curiosity
[16:39] <grawity> joaopinto: I'll just let him find that out yourself.
[16:39] <prince_jammys> boredom
[16:39] <grawity> himself*
[16:39] <ruby_on_tails> I tried it out
[16:39] <ruby_on_tails> nothing happened lol
[16:40] <grawity> ruby_on_tails: Like I already said, init just ignores some signals.
[16:40] <ruby_on_tails> hmm
[16:40] <SPhcT> conb123 about names subtree
[16:40] <grawity> In other words, read the damn manpage.
[16:40] <ruby_on_tails> I thought it will do a shut down or something
[16:40] <ruby_on_tails> got this > http://codepad.org/2dqoj2xi
[16:40] <conb123> SPhct: Well can i see the whole thing?
[16:41] <ruby_on_tails> joaopinto: it can have ill effects ?
[16:41] <ludovic> probleme de connexion wifi
[16:41] <grawity> ruby_on_tails: 'kill' only takes pids, not process names.
[16:41] <joaopinto> ruby_on_tails, for curiosity, you should read something about Linux processes and signals, you would learn much more and actually understand what you are trying to do
[16:41] <SPhcT> conb123 i wrote sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 -o force is this right?
[16:41] <Otacon22Uni> Does enyone knows how to log ssh access on sshd?
[16:41] <grawity> Otacon22Uni: Connections are already logged to syslog
[16:41] <ruby_on_tails> grawity: I did kill 1 1 was the PID for init
[16:41] <conb123> SPhcT: yep should be as long as that is an ntfs partition
[16:42] <datz> where is the default screenshot program?
[16:42] <SPhcT> conb123 it is on another pc..
[16:42] <grawity> ruby_on_tails: And what did it say?
[16:42] <grawity> datz: gnome-screenshot
[16:42] <ruby_on_tails> grawity: what I pasted just not
[16:42] <ruby_on_tails> now*
[16:42] <datz> How can I make a shortcut to it?
[16:42] <grawity> ruby_on_tails: That is really _not_ what it says on 'kill 1'.
[16:42] <Otacon22Uni> grawity, where exactly?
[16:42] <Otacon22Uni> wich file?
[16:42] <mo0nykit> datz: i think it is ctrl-printscrn by default
[16:42] <ruby_on_tails> grawity: sudo kill 1
[16:42] <llutz> Otacon22Uni: maybe you'll have to cahnge "LogLevel"
[16:43] <llutz> change*
[16:43] <grawity> Otacon22Uni: Depends on your syslog config, but usually /var/log/auth.log
[16:43] <Otacon22Uni> llutz, in sshd_conf?
[16:43] <sanders> hello /server irc.undernet.org /join #programmeur
[16:43] <sanders> hello /server irc.undernet.org /join #programmeur
[16:43] <sanders> hello /server irc.undernet.org /join #programmeur
[16:43] <sanders> hello /server irc.undernet.org /join #programmeur
[16:43] <FloodBot3> sanders: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:43] <ruby_on_tails> I entered my pass and got that
[16:43] <llutz> Otacon22Uni: sshd_config
[16:43] <conb123> SPhcT: How can it be on another pc?
[16:43] <grawity> ruby_on_tails: I have a reason to not believe you.
[16:43] <apparle> why there isn't g++-3.4 for intrepid and onwards
[16:43] <joaopinto> ruby_on_tails, please read "man kill"
[16:43] <ruby_on_tails> grawity: ? well...why would I lie lol
[16:43] <SPhcT> conb123 i mean eror
[16:43] <simon__> hi
[16:43] <datz>  grawity, I want to take a screenshot when rotating desktop cube.
[16:43] <mo0nykit> datz: take a look at system --> preferences --> keyboard shortcuts. it's there
[16:44] <conb123> SPhcT: What???
[16:44] <simon__> hi people
[16:44] <nickapalooza> HI MAN
[16:44] <nickapalooza> HOW AREYOU
[16:44] <simon__> fine and you
[16:44] <datz> mo0nykit, well ok.. shortbut is print screen button, although it doesn work when rotating cube
[16:44] <SPhcT> conb123 i have 1 pc to internet and another what im fixing not connected
[16:44] <nickapalooza> doing well i reckon
[16:45] <simon__> oh i see
[16:45] <conb123> SPhcT: Right so what has that got to do with it?
[16:45] <simon__> where are you from
[16:45] <mo0nykit> datz: oh.. i haven't tried that on the cube.. in my case, doing a printscreen brings up a dialog box asking where to save your image. give it a try. maybe the dialog box comes up after you release the cube
[16:46] <ZykoticK9> datz, screenshot compiz cube -- use gnome screenshot tool and set the dely to a few seconds - then stage your cube in the few seconds before the delay runs out.  Good luck.
[16:46] <datz> mo0nykit, nope tried it
[16:46] <datz> ZykoticK9, thanks
[16:46] <flecharota> x oftopic q pongo¿
[16:46] <mo0nykit> ZykoticK9: thanks for the tip :)
[16:48] <flecharota> ayuda,como entro en oftopic
[16:48] <SPhcT> conb123 http://pastebin.com/m7bfe051d this message i get find on internet
[16:49] <duffydack> dont need to delay screenshot.. just push the button
[16:49] <trygg> Anyone know how I can get a graphical presentation of how much each directory takes?
[16:49] <dan_> hello
[16:50] <dan_> i have a problem, and i was wondering if anyone could help out.
[16:50] <hetOrakel> trygg: try Baobab
[16:50] <conb123> SPhcT: That is just the help message you get if you type the command wrong
[16:50] <grawity> dan_: If you just ask your question, probably.
[16:50] <BoxMagnet> SPhcT, lol
[16:50] <SPhcT> conb123 i wrote "sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 -o force"
[16:50] <BoxMagnet> SPhcT, sudo mount /dev/hdx /mount/point
[16:50] <trygg> hetOrakel: I think it's just what I'm looking for. Thanks.
[16:51] <BoxMagnet> SPhcT, sudo mount ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /mount/point
[16:51] <dan_> okay.  i tried installing the desktop version of Ubuntu.  it shows the Ubuntu logo, a line travels across the screen under the logo, then everything goes blank.
[16:51] <isaac_> Alsa update wont work. I've clicked on everything and it wont compile.....
[16:51] <duffydack> datz, prntscrn button doesnt work for you while rotating cube?  does for me.
[16:51] <dan_> my cdrom still reads the cd, but no video.
[16:51] <Hajuu> Hey guys, is there a dedicated channel for ubuntu cloud server distro?
[16:51] <dan_> i have 2 Radeon X1950 cards.
[16:52] <BoxMagnet> dan_, what happens when you hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[16:52] <SPhcT> BoxMagnet do i need -o force?
[16:52] <BoxMagnet> dan_, you might need to take 1 out till its configured
[16:52] <dan_> well i've never tried that.  is that a standard solution for video problems?
[16:52] <BoxMagnet> SPhcT, i never used it but what does -o do?
[16:52] <Hajuu> Ctrl+alt+backspace restarts X
[16:52] <Hajuu> thats all
[16:52] <dan_> okay, take one out.
[16:52] <BoxMagnet> dan_, pretty sure. could be wrong?
[16:52] <dan_> oh i see.
[16:52] <BoxMagnet> !dualvideo
[16:53] <isaac_> Alsa update wont work. I've clicked on everything and it wont compile.....
[16:53] <SPhcT> BoxMagnet denied because ntfs is in use...
[16:53] <BoxMagnet> dan_, ubuntu is probably confused lol
[16:53] <Hajuu> Hey guys, is there a dedicated channel for ubuntu cloud server distro?
[16:53] <BoxMagnet> SPhcT, what are you trying to do exactly.
[16:53] <conb123> SphcT: Oh of course i forgot to mention the mount point
[16:53] <dan_> i'll try it right now, and i'll be back to let you know what happens.
[16:54] <conb123> SphcT: Just do something like sudo mkdir /media/disk, then do sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /media/disk -o force
[16:54] <SPhcT> conb123 what is mount point?
[16:54] <isaac_> Alsa update wont work. I've clicked on everything and it wont compile.....
[16:54] <SPhcT> ok
[16:54] <BoxMagnet> conb123, -o force is no longer used
[16:54] <ZykoticK9> SPhcT, don't do the "/sudo mkdir /media/disk" that's where the automounter mounts things - you don't want directories in there.  use /mnt instead.
[16:55] <BoxMagnet> conb123,        force  This mount option is not used anymore. It was superseded by  the
[16:55] <BoxMagnet>               recover and norecover options.
[16:55] <Hajuu> so ill take you guys silence as "I've never even heard of ubuntu cloud server let alone having a seperate room" ?
[16:55] <conb123> BoxMagnet: It was oh right
[16:55] <preecher> Hajuu,  there is a ubuntu server channel
[16:55] <isaac_> Alsa update wont work. I've clicked on everything and it wont compile.....
[16:55] <Pici> Hajuu: #ubuntu-server
[16:55] <ZykoticK9> Hajuu, as in #ubuntu-server
[16:55] <Hajuu> thanks Pici, preecher, ZykoticK9
[16:56] <BoxMagnet> isaac_, clicked? you must compile from command line
[16:56] <SPhcT> hei i accesed it ty for all your help
[16:56] <BoxMagnet> isaac_, cd to source dir, ./configure && make && sudo make install
[16:56] <SPhcT> Zykotick9 i run live cd so anyways for short time
[16:57] <SPhcT> conb123 ok i did it tywm
[16:57] <ZykoticK9> SPhcT, in that case - go for it - won't make a difference after you reboot then :)
[16:58] <hetOrakel> hi, i've a strange problem. wireless networking works perfectly fine, but after a boot i often have to disable en re-enable networking before it connects, onyone got a clue?
[16:58] <prarage> isaac_: try this http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2009/05/09/upgrade-alsa-1020-on-ubuntu-jaunty-904/
[16:59] <Barth> Ciaooo
[17:00] <Barth> !list
[17:00] <ArasTa> clear
[17:00] <Sivik> anyone install ubuntu on a hp mini?  I cannot get it to boot from usb
[17:00] <ArasTa> lol
[17:00] <beli> hi there, i have problems compiling postfix on ubuntu jaunty; mkmap_open.c:90: error: expected expression before >>static<<
[17:01] <ArasTa> hey guys
[17:01] <Barth> c'e' qualcuno italiano a cui rivolgere qualche domanda
[17:01] <Pici> !it | Barth
[17:01] <jrib> !it | Barth
[17:01] <Barth> tnks
[17:01] <ArasTa> guys ...how to share files with my XP as guest on vbox ?
[17:01] <beli> i fetched sources with apt-get build-deps postfix   and get this error using make makefiles.......i want to setup some more config options...but it also fails with plain make makefiles
[17:02] <jrib> ArasTa: did you check out the vbox documentation?  It has pretty explicit directions
[17:02] <ArasTa> jrib, nope
[17:02] <jrib> !source > beli
[17:02] <Floyd> you have to install guest additions
[17:02] <jrib> ArasTa: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/UserManual.html#sharedfolders
[17:03] <Floyd> arasta, you have to install guest additions on your virtual machine
[17:03] <isaac_> does anyone know of a good netbook where everything just works with ubuntu?
[17:03] <jrib> beli: that should tell you the proper way to rebuild a package
[17:03] <rsk> isaac_: there's some that comes with linux pre-installed, that's a good bet :p
[17:03] <beli> jrib: i dit it that way
[17:03] <ArasTa> Floyd, i did install the gest additions
[17:04] <datz> ZykoticK9, thanks.. "sleep 10; gnome-screenshot" worked awesome
[17:04] <isaac_> the only netbooks i've seen are dells with version 8.xx
[17:04] <jrib> beli: then you need to give the channel more details.  Pastebin exactly what you are doing (commands you run, edits you made)
[17:04] <ArasTa> =| jrib, Floyd in fact i want to ping from my ubuntu to my guest xp
[17:04] <ArasTa> using vbox
[17:04] <ZykoticK9> datz, :) glad it worked for ya - it works for me too ;)
[17:04] <ArasTa> so how to do that ?
[17:04] <Floyd> then you have to share via samba your linux folders
[17:05] <BoxMagnet> how can simple backup work in ubuntu when it copies /usr/bin but not the programs inside???????
[17:05] <jrib> ArasTa: I gave you specific directions to read, did you read them?
[17:05] <beli> jrib: i am following the postfixvirtual tutorial....http://www.postfixvirtual.net/postfixvirtual.html
[17:05] <ArasTa> jrib, i've to read all that ??
[17:06] <jrib> ArasTa: yeah 2 minutes worth of reading isn't going to kill you...
[17:06] <duffydack> isaac_, Ive got a dell mini 9 that works fine.. its got 9.10 NBR at the moment..
[17:06] <ZykoticK9> BoxMagnet, look into copying with recursive feature enabled.  mv does this automatically but copy (cp) does not - if that's what command you're using.  good luck.
[17:06] <|v|istic`|v|eg> Hello
[17:06] <tkotd> hello!!
[17:06] <duffydack> isaac_, it came with dells ubuntu 8.04
[17:06] <|v|istic`|v|eg> !sex
[17:06] <ArasTa> jrib, why dont' u just give me command to use
[17:06] <ArasTa> ?
[17:06] <tkotd> alguien habla español???
[17:06] <jrib> ArasTa: because I would just be copying and pasting what I linked you to.
[17:06] <|v|istic`|v|eg> !freenode
[17:06] <|v|istic`|v|eg> !appeals
[17:06] <Pici> !msgthebot | |v|istic`|v|eg
[17:06] <Pici> !es | tkotd
[17:07] <beli> jrib: i build everything under /usr/local/src   but compiling postfix fails...w/ and w/o  configure options...also with adjusted mysql lib/includes -I
[17:07] <|v|istic`|v|eg> !pici
[17:07] <Pici> |v|istic`|v|eg: Please stop that.
[17:07] <jrib> beli: then you need to give the channel more details.  Pastebin exactly what you are doing (commands you run, edits you made)
[17:07] <tkotd> gracias ubottu
[17:07] <BoxMagnet> ZykoticK9, no its, simple backup suite, a gui for sbackup
[17:07] <isaac_> i mean if something came with 8.xx will it run good with the latest version of ubuntu?
[17:07] <ArasTa> jrib, ok
[17:07] <BoxMagnet> ZykoticK9, it has a list of packages, but why not just copy the /usr/bin/files
[17:07] <Ag0X> hello
[17:08] <duffydack> isaac_, it was 8.04 because 8.10 was still new and 8.04 is an LTS.. dell supply their own repo and updates
[17:08] <beli> jrib: i've done exactly what the tutorial says...
[17:08] <Ag0X> need some help monodevelop2 not stoping on breakpoints
[17:08] <Ag0X> anyone can help me please +
[17:08] <duffydack> isaac_, and yes its fine with newer ubuntus.. Ive had 8.10, 9.04 and now 9.10 on it with no problems..
[17:08] <Floyd> arasta, tell me exactly what you want to do and if i can i will help you
[17:08] <iceroot> Ag0X: #mono maybe
[17:08] <jrib> beli: I don't find a singe mention of dpkg or apt in the page you linked, so you are doing it wrong then.
[17:08] <ZykoticK9> BoxMagnet, sorry don't know anything about sbackup - though you'd written a simple script for backup and cp might have been giving you troubles.  hope someone else knows.
[17:08] <Ag0X> iceroot: thanks
[17:09] <ArasTa> Floyd, i want ping from my Ubuntu to my XP ..with XP is installed on vbox
[17:09] <beli> jrib: i just fetched the sources via apt-get source postfix and apt-get build-dep postfix
[17:09] <BoxMagnet> ZykoticK9, i might be writing one soon......
[17:09] <ArasTa> that's all
[17:09] <duffydack> isaac_, I dont know about any other makes of netbook, this is my first... had it a while
[17:09] <beli> jrib: anything else has been done like the tutorial
[17:09] <isaac_> cool well if i can't get the new alsa working right now i'll just go get one of those other laptops instead
[17:09] <jrib> beli: pastebin what *you* actually did.  I have to go though
[17:09] <isaac_> thanks all
[17:09] <HardDisk> netbook os's include easy peasy, kuki linux, crunchbang
[17:10] <beli> thats what i did...fetched the sources and entered the commands from the tutorial
 cool well if i can't get the new alsa working right now i'll just go get one of those other laptops instead
[17:10] <Hajuu> wtf kind of solution is that
[17:10] <prarage> isaac_: which version of alsa are you running?
[17:10] <beli> so why repaste it...its exactly the same
[17:10] <BoxMagnet> HardDisk, what lol
[17:10] <HardDisk> :)
[17:10] <ZykoticK9> BoxMagnet, typically /usr/bin (and /usr/local/bin/ ) aren't high priorities for backup for me personally - i'm more interested in the packages then the binaries themselves.  best of luck.
[17:10] <HardDisk> I'm just advertising ubuntu derivatives.
[17:10] <jrib> beli: well that tutorial has you compiling a bunch of things you don't need to compile.  You did that?
[17:10] <BoxMagnet> ZykoticK9, will the packages run without the binaries !?
[17:10] <isaac_> im running the 1.9 something something version
[17:10] <BoxMagnet> ZykoticK9, am i missing something
[17:10] <Hajuu> Yeah
[17:11] <Hajuu> backup packages
[17:11] <Floyd> wait i will try it
[17:11] <beli> jrib: sure...all under /usr/local and installed it....worked like a charme up to compiling postfix
[17:11] <Hajuu> not bin files
[17:11] <dan_> hello again.  i found another solution to the video problem.  i chose safe video mode (i should have looked a little harder the first time)
[17:11] <isaac_> i need the 1.20 version to make my mic work
[17:11] <BoxMagnet> Hajuu, im using sbackup
[17:11] <ZykoticK9> BoxMagnet, if you have a DEB for a program (that's something i personally backup)
[17:11] <Hajuu> you will have so much problems with backing up your bin files.
[17:11] <jrib> beli: well that's kind of dumb.  You're circumventing APT why?
[17:11] <Hajuu> Theres no reason for it
[17:11] <Hajuu> the packages install the binaries
[17:11] <Hajuu> plus all their requirements
[17:11] <cowgarden> HardDisk, what is Easy Peasy like nowadays? :) it became obsolet when the current ubuntu netbook remix launched
[17:11] <HardDisk> if you want to make a redistributable copy of your installation files, use Remastersys
[17:11] <BoxMagnet> the program maintains a list of packages to install
[17:11] <Hajuu> thus the point of a package manager
[17:11] <BoxMagnet> does it use the internet?
[17:11] <BoxMagnet> or my actual files in the .tar.gz it made
[17:11] <HardDisk> cowgarden, mmmm it's ok..Im running UNR 9.10 now
[17:12] <beli> jrib: because i want to make sure that postfix has all build inside what i need
[17:12] <cowgarden> HardDisk, any advantages for EEE users?
[17:12] <BoxMagnet> im getting a new HD soon for my server but i dont want to reconfigure it
[17:12] <lifesengine> could someone with a perfectly working audacity music recorder please private message me?
[17:12] <jrib> beli: so why wouldn't you use APT...
[17:12] <beli> jrib: and just that...not more and not less....i dont like bloated daemons
[17:12] <HardDisk> cowgarden custom kernel basically.
[17:12] <dan_> i have another problem, though.  Ubuntu doesn't seem to detect my RAID.  it wants to single out one of my mirrored hard drives for partitioning and formatting.
[17:12] <Hajuu> A new hdd doesnt require a reinstall at all
[17:12] <Hajuu> :/
[17:12] <Hajuu> you can just clone your drive
[17:12] <Hajuu> easy peasy.
[17:12] <FloodBot3> Hajuu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:12] <BoxMagnet> Hajuu, can you open a PM  ??
[17:12] <cowgarden> HardDisk, so it still boots faster? the old custom kernel was slower than the current standard one
[17:12] <jrib> beli: we're not talking about the daemon, we're talking about the dependencies you compiled, like berkeleydb
[17:13] <BoxMagnet> i need assistance lol
[17:13] <beli> jrib: and i want to follow that tutorial...i just used apt to fetch sources...i could have also used wget or lynx....so whats wrong with it?#
[17:13] <HardDisk> use Back in Time if you want to backup yoru /home dir etc...use Remastersys to create your custom iso installation dvd based on what you have installed on your system.
[17:13] <Hajuu> I'm kind of busy sorry, but theres many many tools for it
[17:13] <Hajuu> HardDisk: you might want to check out hirens boot cd
[17:13] <Hajuu> or ultimate boot cd
[17:13] <HardDisk> cowgarden yes it boots faster, also its meant as a "general" netbook os now, not just eeepc specific.
[17:13] <ZykoticK9> BoxMagnet, backup the source code then the tar.gz file - keep that
[17:13] <Hajuu> has a copy of norton ghost on there, you can use it to very easilly clone a drive
[17:13] <sping476> is there a way to make apt-get re-install all packages?  (i have been trying to mix debian and ubuntu and ran into runtime link errors)
[17:13] <cybershock> Hello all
[17:13] <HardDisk> Hajuu I know hiren...its old and useless for me nowadays.
[17:13] <BoxMagnet> !backup
[17:13] <HardDisk> i used hirencd ever since it first came out
[17:13] <Hajuu> meh its really not useless.
[17:14] <Hajuu> the point is that its low level.
[17:14] <HardDisk> i mean useless for ME
[17:14] <Hajuu> and comes with a plethora of software
[17:14] <ZykoticK9> BoxMagnet, and any config files from that program
[17:14] <Hajuu> like ghost.
[17:14] <Hajuu> well, ghost does exactly what you need
[17:14] <HardDisk> dont need ghost anymore
[17:14]  * beli detex hiren and ubcd are well done stuff
[17:14] <Hajuu> but if you say so
[17:14] <duffydack> clonezilla ftw
[17:14] <Hajuu> cool
[17:14] <HardDisk> dd :)
[17:14] <FloodBot3> Hajuu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:14] <BoxMagnet> supergrubdisk
[17:14] <cowgarden> HardDisk, yeah i know :) guess I'm to lazy to reinstall and the ubuntu updates delay so much with such a derivate. I'll stick to ubuntu/moblin dualboot. thx for the infos :9
[17:14] <cowgarden> :)
[17:14] <BoxMagnet> is awesome too
[17:14] <cybershock> Does anyone know how to get the default network manager to work again in ubuntu 9.04? I had wicd installed and then I removed it and now I have no network access.
[17:14] <Hajuu> then you already know how to do it, obviously.
[17:14] <jrib> beli: anyway, I'd recommend you undo everything you did, install the depencies using apt (which you said you did anyway with apt-get build-dep), read how to properly rebuild a deb package (/msg ubottu !source), edit the source package to your needs, then rebuild the package like ubottu said to
[17:14] <HardDisk> yes
[17:15] <BoxMagnet> can i use DD to copy the old hd to the new
[17:15] <HardDisk> yes
[17:15] <BoxMagnet> like keep the old as master,boot it, and dd the old HD to the new
[17:15] <HardDisk> yes
[17:15] <BoxMagnet> will it then be bootable easy peasy?
[17:15] <ZykoticK9> cybershock, for starters try running "nm-applet" from a terminal.
[17:15] <nathan7> Yes.
[17:15] <HardDisk> yes
[17:15]  * nathan7 boces BoxMagnet 
[17:15] <BoxMagnet> boces?
[17:15] <HardDisk> lol
[17:16] <jrib> beli: and then if you get errors, say exactly where and include exactly what you modified in the source package
[17:16] <cybershock> ok cool I will try that. thanks for your help
[17:16] <BoxMagnet> my point being i just realized, with the backup. id have to install ubuntu. then run the backup program
[17:16] <BoxMagnet> that would take forever
[17:16] <BoxMagnet> or i could just use dd
[17:16] <Hajuu> use a live cd
[17:16] <Hajuu> innit
[17:16] <beli> jrib: i know what you think i am doing wrong...i am not going to mix up the system packages...i want all the stuff under /usr/local/src and build debian packages out of them...and tell apt-get to not touch that packages afterwards
[17:16] <HardDisk> i would use a livecd, dd one hd to the other hd
[17:16] <HardDisk> voila
[17:16] <BoxMagnet> why live-cd
[17:16] <jrib> beli: yeah, I think that's silly
[17:16] <BoxMagnet> so nothing mounted?
[17:17] <jrib> beli: you won't get updates from apt for any of that stuff
[17:17] <Hajuu> lol well there you go, problem solved.
[17:17] <fahadsadah> id returns no such user
[17:17] <fahadsadah> Using nss_ldap
[17:17] <Hajuu> so you dont have to install ubuntu first
[17:17] <beli> jrib: i dont want uopdates
[17:17] <Hajuu> like you said, thats the pain.
[17:17] <fahadsadah> I straced it, and found it isn't contacting the server.
[17:17] <fahadsadah> Ideas?
[17:17] <HardDisk> that's just how i prefer to do things when i clone
[17:17] <BoxMagnet> sounds like a plan guys
[17:17] <beli> jrib: i dont want updates for the packages i will use for the mailer stuff
[17:17] <HardDisk> yep
[17:17] <BoxMagnet> cant wait for the new sata drive.
[17:17] <jrib> beli: then you don't even have an ubuntu question
[17:17] <HardDisk> me too
[17:17] <BoxMagnet> HardDisk, ud like it, its a WDC 320gb 16mb cache sataII 7200rpm
[17:17] <BoxMagnet> HardDisk, isnt he ur uncle?
[17:18] <HardDisk> mmmmmm sexy
[17:18] <BoxMagnet> lol.
[17:18] <eguest039> hello guys
[17:18] <Hajuu> sexy? those are like, the cheapest drives available
[17:18] <beli> jrib: maybe...maybe not...
[17:18] <Hajuu> for servres
[17:18] <BoxMagnet> haha, it was cheap! thats why i got it
[17:18] <eguest039> got htis small error with my start up script
[17:18] <Hajuu> servers*
[17:18] <BoxMagnet> Hajuu, yea
[17:18] <BoxMagnet> its a nice drive though. good reviews from newegg
[17:18] <HardDisk> Boxmagnet its that easy dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb
[17:18] <BoxMagnet> bought it from amazon for 34 dollars.
[17:18] <HardDisk> sda being your source and sdb destination
[17:18] <cg> hello. can the  title bar of the windows be set transparent ?
[17:18] <eguest039> a
[17:19] <BoxMagnet> HardDisk, that copies byte for byte yes
[17:19] <fahadsadah> !compizfusion | cg
[17:19] <beli> jrib: i really dont think distribution, i think linux.....on #postfix someone flamed me because i am using ubuntu for source stuff....where are we?!
[17:19] <HardDisk> yes
[17:19] <fahadsadah> !compiz | cg
[17:19] <Hajuu> yeah
[17:19] <BoxMagnet> HardDisk, perfect, then i get rid of the old ide
[17:19] <HardDisk> then you can use gparted later on to resize
[17:19] <BoxMagnet> and throw it in the dumpster
[17:19] <Hajuu> man its hard to talk in here
[17:19] <HardDisk> well dont throw it
[17:19] <BoxMagnet> HardDisk, i will need to resize yes
[17:19] <Hajuu> yeah dont throw it :/
[17:19] <thijs_> how to resume a crashed update from cli
[17:19] <HardDisk> give it to anyone who can use it for parts
[17:19] <Hajuu> use it as a media drive
[17:19] <eguest039> bin bash bad interpretor no such file or directory
[17:19] <HardDisk> use it as a temp drive
[17:19] <BoxMagnet> HardDisk, OO i got a celeron 500mhz im going to use purely for music
[17:19] <HardDisk> use it as a door stopper
[17:19] <BoxMagnet> throw that drive in there
[17:19] <Hajuu> lol
[17:19] <fahadsadah> eguest039: sudo aptitude install bash
[17:19] <HardDisk> well there you go
[17:19] <jrib> beli: in any case you can't be helped if you don't pastebin exactly what you are doing.  You aren't even using anything ubuntu the way you are doing it.  You might as well just use the tar.gz and go back to postfix (all the ubuntu-specific stuff is in the debian/ folder anyway)
[17:20] <BoxMagnet> its 20g thats enough for ubuntu server +mplayer command line
[17:20] <cg> fahadsadah: any other way ?
[17:20] <fahadsadah> cg: No.
[17:20] <HardDisk> or you can make your own ubuntu mirror
[17:20] <daevski> Is Apache all I need to start a file server?
[17:20] <HardDisk> you need about 80gigs i think
[17:20] <fahadsadah> Does anyone here know about NSS?
[17:20] <fahadsadah> Or LDAP?
[17:20] <HardDisk> and provide ubuntu updates to your neighborhood :)
[17:20] <beli> jrib: ok you got at least my point....i dont want to use apt for the udpate stuff of the postfix mailer
[17:20] <ZykoticK9> BoxMagnet, see #ubuntu-server -- but ya - i run most of my server vm's in 8g
[17:20] <BoxMagnet> HardDisk, i do have like 10mb upload speed now from comcast.
[17:21] <grawity> fahadsadah: Wrong channel to ask.
[17:21] <daevski> Anyone have a tutorial on making File Server on Ubuntu Desktop Edition?
[17:21] <eguest039> aptitude says bash is installed
[17:21] <sdwrage> how do you open an application through terminal without the terminal holding a dependency on that app?
[17:21] <beli> jrib: but ubuntu is linux and i can install/compile sources on it, build packages like i want...thats because its linux!
[17:21] <HardDisk> app &
[17:21] <linny> &
[17:21] <BoxMagnet> HardDisk, its a celeron 500mhz with 128mb ram. 2x64mb lol, not server material
[17:21] <Hajuu> lol
[17:21] <Hajuu> thats called daemonizing it
[17:21] <beli> jrib: it may not be the ubuntu way...but thats on another hand
[17:21] <HardDisk> well yea
[17:21] <sping476> is there a way to make apt-get re-install all packages?
[17:21] <dan_> Ubuntu doesn't seem to detect my RAID.  it wants to single out one of my mirrored hard drives for partitioning and formatting.  anyone have any ideas?
[17:22] <BoxMagnet> Hajuu, i like screen -d -m -S name /usr/bin/app
[17:22] <sdwrage> how do you open an application through terminal without the terminal holding a dependency on that app?
[17:22] <HardDisk> sping476 i think you need to run sudo apt-get install -f
[17:22] <Hajuu> er
[17:22] <cg> pwd
[17:22] <cg> ls
[17:22] <HardDisk> if you're having problems
[17:22] <thijs_> how to resume a crashed update from cli(i ran sudo do-release-upgrade), but it crashed on installing fonts. is there anyway to resume the distro upgrade? (upping from 8.10 to 9.04
[17:22] <Hajuu> it doesnt work at all like using screen.
[17:22] <Hajuu> lol
[17:22] <BoxMagnet> what
[17:22] <BoxMagnet> what doesn't
[17:22] <HardDisk> he means F2
[17:22] <Hajuu> daemonizing. I was talking to HardDisk
[17:22] <BoxMagnet> o
[17:22] <HardDisk> yea demons
[17:22] <daevski> sping476: you can use Package Manger (no filter) and go through the list.... marking them for re-install :-\
[17:22] <erUSUL> sdwrage: nohup app &
[17:22] <daevski> sping476: Might not be ideal, but it's a way...
[17:22] <Hajuu> daemons != Demons.. At least I hope not :o
[17:22] <erUSUL> dan_: bios raid ?
[17:23] <dan_> yes
[17:23] <erUSUL> !fakeraid | dan_
[17:23] <Hajuu> sping476: Not exactly. You can use dpkg
[17:23] <erUSUL> dan_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[17:23] <daevski> Is Apache all I need to start a file server?
[17:23] <BoxMagnet> OK so my girl was driving home and the AXLE of the car fell out
[17:23] <Hajuu> sping476 I think its like, dpkg --reconfigure --force-all *
[17:23] <preecher> im using ubuntu 9.04--i just dload an install KDE desktop--is there a way when i boot up it ask me which i wanna boot to--gnome or kde? now it shows the kde splash screen but boots into gnome but under applications i have kde programs listed
[17:23] <sping476> Hajuu: dpkg is fine, too. how make i dpkg do it?
[17:23] <grawity> daevski: Technically, Apache is a _web server_... but yes, it's enough.
[17:23] <Hajuu> sping476: check out 'man dpkg', it's all in there
[17:24] <erUSUL> daevski: samba or nfs are used to serve files
[17:24] <dan_> okay, thank you guys.
[17:24] <erUSUL> daevski: apache is a web server
[17:24] <BoxMagnet> erUSUL, ssh too
[17:24] <meanieface> preecher: if you go into gdmsetup you can turn off automatic login
[17:24] <Hajuu> daevski: yeah you can share files easilly with apache :)
[17:24] <grawity> BoxMagnet: ssh is for remote shell access - file transfers is a secondary feature.
[17:25] <Hajuu> If configured correctly
[17:25] <daevski> grawity, ty // erUSUL: What app would I use to assign logins, etc? (Samba is installed)
[17:25] <Hajuu> lol not apache, thats for sure.
[17:25] <erUSUL> !samba | daevski
[17:25] <daevski> Hajuu -- what app might I use to manage logins, etc?
[17:25] <sping476> Hajuu: can you help me out with it, the man page is quite confusing to me
[17:25] <Darkomen> what application that can connect my friends to my computer?
[17:25] <preecher> meanieface, is  that a terminal program
[17:25] <Darkomen> just like a root?
[17:26] <BoxMagnet> grawity, it works better than samba
[17:26] <Darkomen> a shell
[17:26] <datz> Darkomen, ssh?
[17:26] <grawity> BoxMagnet: Wouldn't say so.
[17:26] <BoxMagnet> grawity, much more secure too
[17:26] <meanieface> preecher: you can launch it from terminal yes sudo gdmsetup
[17:26] <Darkomen> datz yeaps
[17:26] <Hajuu> sping476: to us all, dpkg is horrible. Thus why aptitude and stuff came along
[17:26] <preecher> meanieface, thx
[17:26] <grawity> BoxMagnet: Security is the only advantage of SFTP over samba or nfs.
[17:26] <Hajuu> sping476: you could do it with aptitude or synaptic, just be careful
[17:26] <isolatedsh33p> hey peeps
[17:26] <datz> Darkomen, is that what you were looking for?
[17:26] <BoxMagnet> grawity, hm, documentation?
[17:26] <daevski> Hajuu, grawity, erUSUL -- Thanks guys
[17:27] <Hajuu> sping476: go into sort by status, click installed, select all, right click, and there should be an option like reconfigure
[17:27] <Hajuu> I believe
[17:27] <damian_> Hello I have a question to the developers on Ubuntu. I´am about to install the latest beta of 9.10 on my desktop PC. Will I need to reinstall my system when the full version comes out?
[17:27] <isolatedsh33p> hello
[17:27] <Darkomen> datz> Darkomen, is that what you were looking for? -> yes. just like making my computer a server
[17:27] <toefur> im getting very frustrated with vdpau
[17:27] <Darkomen> that can connect or upload/download some files with my friend
[17:28] <datz>  Darkomen, ok. Install openssh-server
[17:28] <u42p> hi, i could use some help with vpnc. i want to use the vpn only to access a certain ip (range would be fine too) and not route all my traffic through it. the manual says "IPSEC target network <target network/netmask>". i have the ip i want to access but no idea about the netmask. also do i have to make the last byte of the ip a 0?
[17:28] <isolatedsh33p> does everyone have slow internet in ubuntu?
[17:28] <toefur> how can i get rid of it all and restart from clean
[17:28] <meanieface> isolatedsh33p: nope
[17:28] <datz>  Darkomen, open port 22. No, use sftp for files
[17:28] <isolatedsh33p> i got slow internet connection
[17:28] <BoxMagnet> u42p, netmask probably 255.255.255.0
[17:28] <isolatedsh33p> i'm not sure how to solve this
[17:28] <isolatedsh33p> T_T
[17:28] <rsk> isolatedsh33p: Wlan or wired?
[17:29] <isolatedsh33p> wlan
[17:29] <rsk> isolatedsh33p: right, so the driver is likely not as good as in windows.
[17:29] <rsk> isolatedsh33p: what ubuntu version are you using?
[17:29] <isolatedsh33p> jaunty jackalope
[17:29] <isolatedsh33p> 9.04
[17:29] <rsk> ok you can always try a newer driver.. um
[17:29] <sping476> Hajuu: i thought you were speaking of dpkg. as gdm freezes for me i have a shell only
[17:29] <isolatedsh33p> i solved compiz
[17:30] <rsk> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.32-rc5/
[17:30] <isolatedsh33p> i'm not sure which driver
[17:30] <rsk> install that and pick it at boot, if there's not improvement just remove it and use the old one
[17:30] <rsk> isolatedsh33p: no need to worry about it, it will work without confiing
[17:30] <ZuzOnline>  anyone know of a good open source customizable report platform
[17:30] <ZuzOnline> something where i could make my own fields and post status between 2 offices
[17:30] <Hajuu> CrystalReports.
[17:31] <isolatedsh33p> its so slow rite now that i need to go back to XP
[17:31] <Hajuu> Thats one of the industry standards, ZuzOnline
[17:31] <ZuzOnline> cool
[17:31] <isolatedsh33p> my device is atheros
[17:31] <ZuzOnline> i could get 2 offices to post status of clients
[17:31] <ZuzOnline> ?
[17:32] <rsk> ZuzOnline: what status do you want?
[17:32] <Hajuu> :/
[17:32] <ZuzOnline> we got a few law offices
[17:32] <Hajuu> thats hardly relevant.
[17:32] <isolatedsh33p> ...
[17:32] <rsk> :o
[17:33] <ZuzOnline> sorry im used to type in small lines, give me a second and ill explain  :)
[17:33]  * rsk get's pacman to do the dirt work on isolatedsh33p's ....'s
[17:33] <toefur> anybody know how i can remove vdpau altogether and restart from scratch without reinstalling the whole system
[17:33] <isolatedsh33p> O.o
[17:33] <rsk> wakka wakka wakka!
[17:33] <meanieface> isolatedsh33p: there is a secondary driver for atheros in the gnomme settings
[17:34] <meanieface> isolatedsh33p: since i haven't used gnome in ages, i know its int he menu somewhere in system
[17:34] <rsk> system >administration>hardware drivers?
[17:34] <rsk> or were you refering to something else
[17:34] <ZuzOnline> we have 3 offices and we all send files to 1 main office, this office is supposed to report to us about every part of file they receive for each client, but they pretty much just do a word doc and update the file every few days and email us... im looking for something live where i can make the fields and pw and have it on a web
[17:34] <isolatedsh33p> nothing there
[17:34] <toefur> where can i go to talk about vdpau?
[17:34] <isolatedsh33p> besides fglrx
[17:35] <rsk> toefur: in what app are you trying to use vdpau?
[17:35] <rsk> isolatedsh33p: try the new kernel, it's very easy
[17:35] <toefur> mplayer
[17:35] <isolatedsh33p> which one?
[17:35] <isolatedsh33p> 9.10?
[17:35] <toefur> i know there is a compiled mplayer with vdpau...
[17:35] <rsk> toefur: pastebin _full_ output of mplayer file in #mplayer
[17:35] <preecher> ive searched the gdmsetup and i am unable to locate anything that gives me a choice of what to boot into
[17:36] <rsk> isolatedsh33p: no the link i gave you with few .debs
[17:36] <epaphus> Hello, iam installing ubuntu base only with the minimal CD... Ive gone through all the steps .. but after It asks me if I want to install packages I hit no.. but then it downloads 136 files.. anybody know what they are?
[17:36] <toefur> how do i do that?
[17:36] <rsk> toefur: open up a terminal
[17:36] <ZuzOnline> so for example, Client A has the power of attorneys, birth certificates, but needs declarations, 3rd payment is done on date xx/xx/xx, process due date xx/xx/xx
[17:36] <toefur> k
[17:36] <rsk> write mplayer nameofthefile
[17:36] <rsk> copy all output to pastebin.com
[17:37] <rsk> link the resulting link in #mplayer
[17:37] <toefur> so "write mplayer"?
[17:37] <isolatedsh33p> omg, i lost the link D:
[17:37] <torsten_> Hallo, teste das erste mal dieses Programm
[17:37] <Hajuu> ZuzOnline: Quit wasting time and just check out crystalreports.
[17:37] <meanieface> isolatedsh33p: if you go into gnome-control-center
[17:37] <rsk> !de | torsten_
[17:37] <ZuzOnline> i did
[17:37] <ZuzOnline> its not open source
[17:37] <ZuzOnline> :(
[17:37] <Hajuu> well, its open source.
[17:37] <meanieface> isolatedsh33p: and click on hardware drivers, there isn't a secondary alternate "madwifi" driver?
[17:38] <Hajuu> but its an enterprise solution
[17:38] <Hajuu> for a law firm, you want an enterprise solution
[17:38] <Hajuu> obviously.
[17:38] <ZuzOnline> that looks pretty awesome
[17:38] <sven_oostenbrink> When trying apt-get purge package, I get this error: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal.... How do I do this? I checked man apt-get but it gives -reinstall as an option, but that doesn't work either.. how can I get rid of this package?
[17:38] <isolatedsh33p> sry meanieface, i'm not in ubuntu now..
[17:38] <ZuzOnline> yeah Hajuu you are right, the software seems like its what i need, problem is that this goes to different countries and cash is an issue as of right now
[17:39] <torsten_> Hallo
[17:39] <isolatedsh33p> i just reboot to XP since the slow internet
[17:39] <torsten_> Hier auc jemand da der deutsch spricht?
[17:39] <isolatedsh33p> and i dont know how to use src in ubuntu (^^ ")
[17:39] <sven_oostenbrink> !de | torsten_
[17:39] <mikubuntu> hola guys.  i never used bittorrent b4, but i have several clients installed on my laptop.  i am trying to download Star Wreck the Complete Saga from isohunt.com, but when i try to open the link the client doesnt do anything.  am i missing the knowledge somewhere?
[17:39] <sping476> torsten_: ja, aber du bist hier im falschen chennel
[17:40] <torsten_> Ok, danke
[17:40] <Hajuu> mikubuntu: Piracy is illegal.
[17:40] <Hajuu> mikubuntu: I have reported your IP to the RIAA and to your ISP
[17:40] <sven_oostenbrink> Hajuu: really.. really want to start that discussion over here? :)
[17:40] <Hajuu> mikubuntu: Expect a letter of cease and decist within a few days.
[17:40] <sven_oostenbrink> Hajuu: dear god...
[17:41] <isolatedsh33p> guys, how to use irc in ubuntu?
[17:41] <Hajuu> isolatedsh33p: xchat
[17:41] <llutz> !ot| Hajuu
[17:41] <Hajuu> or irssi
[17:41] <sping476> Hajuu: i thought you were here to help people, wtf
[17:41] <isolatedsh33p> i don't have that i think
[17:41] <sven_oostenbrink> isolatedsh33p: try xchat or (if you use KDE) quassel or konversation..
[17:41] <Hajuu> I was answering his illegal question llutz
[17:41] <isolatedsh33p> i'm using gnome
[17:41] <Hajuu> Xchat then
[17:41] <Hajuu> xchat = the mirc of linux
[17:41] <HexTasy_> what was illegal?
[17:41] <sven_oostenbrink> isolatedsh33p: xchat
[17:41] <HexTasy_> fail reading skills <--
[17:42] <isolatedsh33p> wait, google..
[17:42] <HexTasy_> oh i see it
[17:42] <Hajuu> HexTasy_: "<mikubuntu> hola guys.  i never used bittorrent b4, but i have several clients installed on my laptop.  i am trying to download Star Wreck the Complete Saga"...
[17:42] <Hajuu> etc etc
[17:42] <Hajuu> lol
[17:42] <Hajuu> I didnt really report him
[17:42] <Hajuu> you guys just ruined my fun
[17:42] <Hajuu> way to go.
[17:42] <FloodBot3> Hajuu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:42] <Guest14572> tengo una geforce 9400gt 1g y no consigo hacer funcionar el compiz y no se por que e instalado los driver privativos que bienen en ubuntu y nada de nada
[17:42] <HexTasy_> lol, I just didn't want to miss out on the fun
[17:42] <isolatedsh33p> its not in the package right?
[17:42] <HexTasy_> I was luling
[17:42] <isolatedsh33p> i mean xchat
[17:43] <Hajuu> erm, something very similar to xchat
[17:43] <Hajuu> just do: apt-cache search xchat
[17:43] <sven_oostenbrink> When trying apt-get purge package, I get this error: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal.... How do I do this? I checked man apt-get but it gives -reinstall as an option, but that doesn't work either.. how can I get rid of this package?
[17:43] <thiebaude> Guest14572, system-administration-hardware drivers
[17:43] <isolatedsh33p> ok.. ok.. thanx..
[17:43] <meanieface> sven_oostenbrink: sudo apt-get purge
[17:43] <isolatedsh33p> i'm goin to reboot now.. *sighs*
[17:43] <sven_oostenbrink> meanieface: which gives me hte error I just described...
[17:44] <sven_oostenbrink> isolatedsh33p: don't be so sad...
[17:44] <meanieface> sven_oostenbrink: lmao sorry man
[17:44] <sven_oostenbrink> meanieface: imao?
[17:44] <sandyd80> Anyone able to help...my ubuntu i broke, i get as far as a blank desktop with the mouse pointer and it seems to get stuck there, how do i go about troubleshooting this_
[17:44] <Jennifer> hello all.  My ubuntu freezes seemingly random, version 9.04
[17:44] <Jennifer> I'm sitting in front of a frozen PC right now
[17:45] <Jennifer> any suggestions how to find out what the problem is?
[17:45] <rsk> Jennifer: find out if it's due to overheating
[17:45] <thiebaude> Jennifer, which graphics card?
[17:45] <Jennifer> rsk....sensors show cpu at 44C
[17:45] <ZuzOnline> so hajuu, do you know of anything like that but open source?
[17:45] <Jennifer> thiebaude...good question...if i remember correctly its Nvidia
[17:45] <erUSUL> Jennifer: check the various log files under /var/log/ (messages syslog kernel.log )
[17:45] <HexTasy_> heh
[17:45] <HexTasy_> good thing to know
[17:45] <thiebaude> Jennifer, ok
[17:45] <Hajuu> ZuzOnline: you mean free, not opensource.
[17:45] <HexTasy_> ati is :X
[17:46] <Hajuu> It IS opensource.
[17:46] <Hajuu> You recieve the source when you buy it.
[17:46] <Jennifer> erUSUL...going to reboot and look into the logs
[17:46] <Jennifer> brb
[17:46] <thiebaude> Jennifer, dual-boot?
[17:46] <Jennifer> thiebaude....no, clean installed ubuntu only
[17:47] <Jennifer> control-alt-f1 not responding
[17:47] <thiebaude> Jennifer, did you use live cd and just try ubuntu without installing to see if it works
[17:47] <Jennifer> neither is control/alt/backspace
[17:47] <Jennifer> thiebaude....intially yes
[17:47] <sandyd80> Anyone able to help...my ubuntu i broke, i get as far as a blank desktop with the mouse pointer and it seems to get stuck there, how do i go about troubleshooting this_
[17:47] <Jennifer> so thats why i installed
[17:48] <thiebaude> Jennifer, right
[17:48] <sven_oostenbrink> Could anybody take a look at this one? How can I fix this apt-get problem I cant remove, purge, reinstall or just install the package anymore :( http://pastebin.com/m55803a4e
[17:48] <thiebaude> Jennifer, and then you went through the install process?
[17:48] <Jennifer> and the irritating thing is, when this happens it forces a chdsk
[17:48] <Jennifer> and sometimes i have to manually do it
[17:49] <Jennifer> "unclean shutdown"
[17:49] <whatelse> #test
[17:49] <HexTasy_> bad memory perhaps Jennifer?
[17:49] <ZuzOnline> Hajuu freeware is good  :)
[17:49] <meanieface> sven_oostenbrink: dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq <yourpackagehere>
[17:50] <Jennifer> HexTasy....did memtest before installing...bought them from a friend out of working PC, tested there and here...memtest86
[17:50] <wrapster> i have a motorola phone that is not properly mounting on ubuntu...would this be the right channel to ask such ques?
[17:51] <sven_oostenbrink> meanieface:  wohoo! Seems to do the trick! :)
[17:51] <meanieface> sven_oostenbrink: nice :)
[17:51] <HexTasy_> Jennifer: well if you've ran memtest for a few hours (4 or more) you'd rule out bad memory, and overheating at the same time more than likely.
[17:51] <Jennifer> HexTasy...left it running overnight
[17:51] <meanieface> wrapster: what are you trying to get it to work with?
[17:52] <wrapster> meanieface: just as any other USB media
[17:52] <HexTasy_> my next guess is funky modules or a bad config somewhere.  all packages up to date?
[17:52] <erUSUL> Jennifer: when the look up happens do the leds of the keyboard start blinking ?
[17:52] <wrapster> i can hear that connecting sound the phone makes..
[17:52] <Jennifer> Hextasy...as for overheating graphics...i can swap cards with an ATI
[17:52] <Jennifer> erUSUL...no
[17:52] <wrapster> but after that df -h does not show it to be mounted
[17:52] <HexTasy_> Jennifer: you're much better off with nvidia
[17:52] <meanieface> wrapster: have you tried bitpim?
[17:53] <HexTasy_> get teh latest drivers from nvidia.com
[17:53] <wrapster> meanieface: no
[17:53] <Jennifer> erUSUL...i can't do anything....keyboard locked.  Caps wont light up.  Numberlock wont light up when pressed
[17:53] <erUSUL> Jennifer: well we can rule out a "kernel panic" then :)
[17:53] <Jennifer> erUSUL...what does that mean?
[17:53] <Jennifer> erUSUL...is my case worse than "kernel panic"
[17:53] <Hajuu> Sounds more like your classic code 102 to me; Woman using a computer.
[17:54] <HexTasy_> kernel panics don't always alert via keyboard if you don't have that enabled
[17:54] <clearscreen> har har
[17:54] <sven_oostenbrink> meanieface: hint: Don't EVER do an apt-get install sun-blah-jre over ssh and then when the license question is there, you loose connection.. it made a serious mess..
[17:54] <Jennifer> Hajuu...sounds like you need to get out more
[17:54] <preecher> i downloaded the kde--i dont want it because it wont boot into it--can i delete the kde and not affect my gnome or do i need to do a reinstall
[17:54] <erUSUL> Jennifer: not likely; we can not know. Not enough info yet
[17:54] <meanieface> sven_oostenbrink: thanks for the heads up hehe
[17:54] <Pici> Hajuu: Thats is unwelcome here, please dont.
[17:54] <Hajuu> Jennifer: I'll tell that to the band I just spent 7 months on tour with
[17:54] <thiebaude> Hajuu, that wasn't right to say
[17:54] <Jennifer> erUSUL...let me pull up the logs, reboot finished
[17:54] <Hajuu> kthx
[17:56] <Jennifer> erUSUL...kernel.log very long.
[17:56] <preecher> can i delete all the kde stuff without effecting gnome or do i need to reinstall altogether
[17:57] <prince_jammys> preecher: yes, you don't need to reinstall
[17:57] <erUSUL> Jennifer: look from the end upwards. Looking for something odd
[17:57] <mikubuntu> hajuu, i am not pirating.  Star Wreck is an open source movie
[17:57] <mikubuntu> anyways, i 'saved' the torrent on my desktop, it says the file is 1.12 gb, and the icon showed up instantly on the desktop.  when i right click it gives me the option of three different clients to open with.  azureus seems to have some problem, runs a loop that says have to update the core, but it never completes, and the other one is just called 'transmission bittorrent client', and it does nothing either when i launch it.  sh
[17:57] <meanieface> preecher: kde is its own seperate window manager
[17:57] <Harrison_Bergero> erUSUL...ill pastebin it for you
[17:57] <Hajuu> mikubuntu: Piracy is illegal.
[17:57] <preecher> i just dloaded it but it no work so i dont want it anymore
[17:57] <Hajuu> Don't ask again.
[17:57] <StaRetji> which service is responsible for automounting USB driver?
[17:57] <mikubuntu> hajuu, i am not pirating.  Star Wreck is an open source movie
[17:57] <Hajuu> ...
[17:57] <clearscreen> Hajuu:  take your trolling somewhere else
[17:57] <Hajuu> No it's not.
[17:57] <Hajuu> Huh.
[17:58] <Hajuu> I'm not trolling :/
[17:58] <FloodBot3> Hajuu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:58] <Hajuu> Well, I was with Jennifer
[17:58] <mikubuntu> hajuu, i am not pirating.  Star Wreck is an open source movie
[17:58] <spine> need help with volume on x505
[17:58] <prince_jammys> open source movie, now there's a concept
[17:58] <Hajuu> heh
[17:58] <Hajuu> ...
[17:58] <Hajuu> mikubuntu: No, it's not. You are pirating. Deal with it.
[17:58] <mikubuntu> look it up, and then apologize
[17:58] <StaRetji> which service is responsible for automounting USB DRIVES (typo)
[17:58] <Hajuu> You look it up, and prove it to me, and maybe ill help you.
[17:59] <Harrison_Bergero> erUSUL....here is the pastebin link  http://pastebin.com/m2c6ec691
[17:59] <gavintlgold> prince_jammys,  http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/ ?
[17:59] <mikubuntu> i don't have to prove anything to you.  wtf are you.
[17:59] <meanieface> mikubuntu: "star wreck on dvd! order now"
[17:59] <preecher> meanieface or prince_jammys do you kno how i can delete it then
[17:59] <Jennifer> erUSUL...you've noticed im logged in twice
[17:59] <erUSUL> Hajuu: Star Wrek is a free movie you can distribute
[17:59] <prince_jammys> gavintlgold: what?
[17:59] <mikubuntu> yes, and you can buy open source operating systems on disk as well
[17:59] <Hajuu> bigbuckbunny isnt an opensource movie. It's a demonstration of the rendering software Blender, released with a loose licence for publicities sake.
[17:59] <meanieface> preecher: you should just type in sudo apt-get remove kd3
[17:59] <meanieface> preecher: sorry kde
[18:00] <mikubuntu> maybe you've heard of that?
[18:00] <Hajuu> mikubuntu: Well we will not support your piracy. Good luck with it though
[18:00] <erUSUL> Harrison_Bergero: is Jennifre's kernel.log ?
[18:00] <gavintlgold> prince_jammys, that's an open source movie
[18:00] <clearscreen> Even if Star Wreck WASNT a free movie, it's perfectly legal to download copyrighted material in the Netherlands. Piracy != Illegality
[18:00] <Harrison_Bergero> erUSUL...yes
[18:00] <prince_jammys> gavintlgold: it has source code?
[18:00] <Jennifer> erUSUL...ya...logged in twice
[18:01] <Jennifer> erUSUL...this is a windows machine
[18:01] <Hajuu> Uh, its not perfectly legal to download copyrighted material in Netherlands. Otherwise Piratebay wouldnt have been in court for.. well.. years.
[18:01] <prince_jammys> gavintlgold: can I compile it?
[18:01] <Harrison_Bergero> erUSUL...this ubuntu
[18:01] <Hajuu> It's just a grayzone.
[18:01] <meanieface> mikubuntu: for the record i've never heard of an "open source movie" ever
[18:01] <clearscreen> Hajuu: wrong :)
[18:01] <Hajuu> Prove it :)
[18:01] <cremetorte> i got a question. i got a bash script. it shall be executed when i switch to batery mode ...   is there any possibility
[18:01] <gavintlgold> prince_jammys, you can download all the blender files and textures, etc
[18:01] <prince_jammys> ah
[18:01] <clearscreen> Hajuu: piratebay is considered a supplier of copyrighted material.. actually DOWNLOADING it is legal
[18:01] <sandyd80> Anyone able to help...my ubuntu i broke, i get as far as a blank desktop with the mouse pointer and it seems to get stuck there, how do i go about troubleshooting this_
[18:01] <Pici> Hajuu: Please stop.  This isnt the place to discuss such things and what mikubuntu is trying to download is advertized on their site
[18:01] <Jennifer> copywrite protection???   research Law Merchant for your remedy
[18:01] <clearscreen> Hajuu: sure, let me look up the legislation, do you read dutch?
[18:01] <gavintlgold> prince_jammys, so it is "open source"
[18:01] <Pici> !offtopic
[18:02] <Hajuu> Pici: To be honest, I doubt he is trying to download that.
[18:02] <Hajuu> I think he is trying to pirate software!!
[18:02] <Hajuu> :o
[18:02] <Hajuu> clearscreen: I do, as it happens
[18:02] <Pici> Hajuu: I don't care. Torrents aren't inherently illegal.
[18:02] <mikubuntu> meanieface, it is the first open source movie.  but open source, it is.
[18:02] <Hajuu> Well it's great that you don't care.
[18:02] <Jennifer> erUSUL...the temp readings without flash in firefox are 40C
[18:02] <erUSUL> Jennifer: Harrison_Bergero nothing in there... what about syslog or messages ?
[18:03] <meanieface> mikubuntu: then why not just click on the download link instead?
[18:03] <Harrison_Bergero> looking
[18:03] <sandyd80> is anyoneseeing my support requests???
[18:03] <rezd> Would the ubuntu launch party be on topic?
[18:03] <clearscreen> Hajuu: then I'm sure you've heard of brein :)
[18:03] <Hajuu> sure.
[18:03] <Hajuu> I think everyone has.
[18:03] <Jennifer> erUSUL..i have syslog and syslog.0 same with kernel
[18:03] <MenZa> rezd: Nope, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:03] <Jennifer> what does that mean
[18:03] <mikubuntu> because they prefer to sell the recorded dvd set at this time, and the producer referred me to download it from a torrent
[18:04] <sandyd80> testing
[18:04] <Pici> Hajuu, clearscreen: Please stay on topic. This channel is for Ubuntu support.
[18:04] <erUSUL> sandyd80: can you make a gues as to how ubuntu broke. it just happened? was becouse of an upgrade? a power cut ?
[18:04] <clearscreen> http://anti-piracy.nl/piraterij/faq.asp - "Volgens de Auteurswet mag iedereen, zonder voorafgaande toestemming van de auteur 'voor eigen oefening, studie of gebruik' zelf een kopie maken van bv. een cd, MP3-muziekbestand of film. Deze uitzondering geldt echter niet voor computerspellen en andere software."
[18:04] <clearscreen> I'll stop now :)
[18:04] <Harrison_Bergero> erUSUL...syslog link   http://pastebin.com/d421bc1b1
[18:04] <mohan1> Hey guys! In my system xorg process consuming my cpu usage as a results it's effecting my system performance.
[18:04] <erUSUL> Jennifer: logs are rotated so they not get to big
[18:04] <Hajuu> [01:07] <Hajuu> We are supporting Ubuntu
[18:04] <Hajuu> [01:07] <Hajuu> By preventing piracy.
[18:04] <Hajuu> [01:07] <Hajuu> One star trek at a time!
[18:05] <Hajuu> anyway
[18:05] <Hajuu> Ill stop too
[18:05] <Hajuu> heh
[18:05] <FloodBot3> Hajuu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:05] <Jennifer> ok..that makes sense
[18:05] <mohan1> suggest me the best solution for me.
[18:05] <Jennifer> syslog is the actual log and .0 is the last log before the crash?
[18:05] <Sajjad68> hello all, how can i see movie subtitles in ubuntu?
[18:06] <erUSUL> Jennifer: no is the last before the log rotation took place
[18:06] <erUSUL> Jennifer: logrotation happens in a cron job
[18:06] <Bodsda> Hi, I have installed a lamp server and unziped phpbb3 but when I browse to localhost/phpBB3/install/index.php it attempts to download the file instead of displaying it. What am I doing wrong?
[18:06] <erUSUL> !info lofrotate
[18:06] <sandyd80> erUSUL, not sure, i did do an auto-update earlier, but it didnt require a restart, not sure if this was the first reboot since then, i ran fsck and fixed the errors found, tried reverting to the previous grub, still the same, i am able to boot onto a live-udb
[18:06] <erUSUL> !info logrotate
[18:06] <mohan1> Is there any solution for me.
[18:06] <isola73dsh33p> yo..
[18:06] <isola73dsh33p> i'm back..
[18:07] <nathan7> YO DOOD
[18:07] <isola73dsh33p> that's was long.. T_T
[18:07] <mohan1> welcome back
[18:07] <isola73dsh33p> thx
[18:07] <erUSUL> sandyd80: i ran fsck and fixed the errors found <<<< maybe fsck moved important files to /lost+found/ ??
[18:07] <isola73dsh33p> just finished installed xchat.. XD
[18:07] <Bodsda> nevermind
[18:08] <StaRetji> How can I make ubuntu with fluxbox automount usb drivers?
[18:08] <isola73dsh33p> why does my wlan sends so little numberr of packets =_=
[18:08] <sandyd80> erUSUL> if this is the case am i able to recover these files and if so how do i do it?
[18:09] <rezd> sound socket output problem: I used to have my speaker connected at the back of my computer with lenny, after I installed Ubuntu 9.04 the sound only works when it is connect to the output in the front of the computer.
[18:09] <mohan1> I have one more problem with firefox consuming my cpu usage. when I am surfing flash enabled websites.
[18:09] <erUSUL> sandyd80: well it all depends on how many files got moved and if there is a chance to recover...
[18:09] <Sajjad68> how can i see movie subtitles in ubuntu?
[18:09] <Jennifer> erUSUL...ok...im going to try and reproduce the freeze
[18:09] <enzotib> StaRetji: you can give a look at the package usbmount
[18:09] <rezd> 02:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
[18:09] <mikubuntu> pici, thank you.  so then do you mind if i get support for how to use the bittorent clients on my ubuntu?
[18:09] <StaRetji> enzotib, thx for the tip, that is enough for me, cheers...
[18:10] <erUSUL> sandyd80: once fsck moved all my /etc/ dir there but fsck do not keep the names nor the folder structure so... reinstall for me :|
[18:10] <mikubuntu> anyways, i 'saved' the torrent on my desktop, it says the file is 1.12 gb, and the icon showed up instantly on the desktop.  when i right click it gives me the option of three different clients to open with.  azureus seems to have some problem, runs a loop that says have to update the core, but it never completes, and the other one is just called 'transmission bittorrent client', and it does nothing either when i launch it.  sh
[18:10] <Pici> mikubuntu: Sure, go ahead and ask. Using torrents aren't forbidden here.
[18:10] <Jennifer> Fullscreen youtube while using bittorrent
[18:10] <erUSUL> StaRetji: like in windows. depens on the player you use
[18:10] <Jennifer> oh, and the crash lost the entire torrent...when i restarted the download started over from the beginning.....grrrr
[18:11] <isola73dsh33p> gosh, my internet is so slow
[18:11] <isola73dsh33p> >.<
[18:11] <Distro^Junkie> when using skype 2.0 with video I can not use any others application that uses sound... anyone know of a fix ?
[18:11] <fission6> anyone here developing using adobe flex inubuntu, i woul dlike to chat if so
[18:11] <Jennifer> erUSUL...what messages should i be looking for?
[18:11] <sandyd80> erUSUL> There dont seem to any files in lost and found that were created today
[18:11] <mikubuntu> thx
[18:12] <mikubuntu> pici, thx
[18:12] <erUSUL> Jennifer: oops messages
[18:12] <meanieface> isola73dsh33p: did you try what i said?
[18:12] <erUSUL> Jennifer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel_oops
[18:12] <meanieface> isola73dsh33p: go into gnome-control-center, click on hardware
[18:12] <meanieface> isola73dsh33p: you should see another wifi driver called "madwifi" try using that one
[18:13] <sandyd80> erUSUL> anything else i can try?
[18:13] <isola73dsh33p> not yet..
[18:13] <isola73dsh33p> could not find gnome-control-center
[18:13] <Harrison_Bergero> erUSUL...anything about oops in here:  http://pastebin.com/d6f5da9a6
[18:14] <meanieface> isola73dsh33p: just type it in the terminal
[18:14] <isola73dsh33p> owh.. ok..
[18:15] <erUSUL> sandyd80: so /lost+found/ is no empty ?
[18:15] <Jennifer> erUSUL...i found no oops in the message.log
[18:15] <sandyd80> no 8 files there, created aug 24, unless the date can get screwed up somehow
[18:15] <Jennifer> does this mean i have a hardware issue?
[18:15] <erUSUL> Jennifer: yes i was looking... so we do not have any info ... :|
[18:16] <mohan1> I am feedup of ubuntu what  to do
[18:16] <erUSUL> Jennifer: i dunno; do you use the propietary nvidia drivers ?
[18:16] <Jennifer> erUSUL...no info tells us something doesnt it?  points to hardware?
[18:16] <Jennifer> let me llook
[18:16] <erUSUL> Jennifer: maybe you can try i while with the nv driver (no 3d) and see if the issue appears or not
[18:17] <Jennifer> erUSUL...using Nvidia version 173...recommended in the list
[18:17] <skx> Hello, I am using Polish keyboard layout and it has ł under both alt+w and alt+l, the alt+w combination is very error prone, can I turn it off somehow and leave just alt+l?
[18:17] <erUSUL> sandyd80: can you see what are those files ? use « file filename »
[18:17] <BlackFLAG> can anyone here answer some questions i have about downloading ubuntu?
[18:17] <Jennifer> erUSUL...there is also a version 96
[18:17] <MenZa> !ask | BlackFLAG
[18:17] <isola73dsh33p> meanieface:done it, not such driver
[18:18] <meanieface> isola73dsh33p: what was in your hardware drivers?
[18:18] <Jennifer> uninstalling the driver
[18:18] <sandyd80> erUSUL> i dont understand, they are called for instance #841998
[18:19] <Gav> Hey, can anyone tell me why after i log into ubuntu all it does is load the wallpaper and nothing else, i get no bars, shortcuts nothing.
[18:19] <isola73dsh33p> AMD/ATI proprietary FGLRX graphics driver
[18:19] <trygg> Quick question, why am I not privilieged to mount my PSP? My users and groups say that I can access external storages.
[18:19] <Jennifer> erUSUL
[18:19] <isola73dsh33p> that's the only driver it listed..
[18:19] <Jennifer> ill see if that does the trick
[18:19] <BlackFLAG> ok, i would like to download ubuntu. i am currently using windows vista. i dont want to lose windows applications (specifically microsoft access). i also heard that you can download ubuntu on a flash drive instead of a LiveCD and that its better to do so. is this true and how do i download it to a usb drive
[18:19] <Jennifer> erUSUL....the freeze happens do infrequently that its irritating..last freeze was more than 2 weeks ago
[18:20] <grawity> BlackFLAG: There isn't any difference between flash and LiveCD versions.
[18:20] <sandyd80> blackflag, use unetbootin to copy the livecd image onto your USB stick
[18:21] <MenZa> !usb | BlackFLAG (more info here)
[18:21] <BlackFLAG> how does LiveCD work? i mean do i just get a blank cd-r and go?
[18:21] <sandyd80> blackflag, use unetbootin to copy the livecd image onto your USB stick
[18:21] <sandyd80> oops, just burn the ISO file to a blank cd yes
[18:22] <erUSUL> Jennifer: sandyd80 sorry been away a while
[18:22] <BlackFLAG> thanks so much everyone gonna try and dl it
[18:22] <sandyd80> np
[18:23] <erUSUL> sandyd80: yes fsck usually do not know the name of the file
[18:23] <GavG> Hey, can anyone help me, after i log into ubuntu it only loads wallpaper, no bars no shortcuts i cant do anything apart from CTRL+ALT+DEL to logout. It was workng
[18:23] <Kuifje111> hello all, I just installed a new PC and I want to make sure everything is all right. Thus I installed LM-Sensors to check the temperatures of the CPU! could anyone check the output for me, because there are some oddities for me. Here's the output: http://pastebin.com/d20e17495
[18:23] <wiredfool> does @reboot work in /etc/cron.d for anyone?
[18:23] <wiredfool> It works on debian, but I'm not getting any love on 9.04
[18:23] <erUSUL> Jennifer: really is hard to know what is happening with th3e info we have...
[18:24] <sandyd80> erUSUL> so am i screwed then or is there a way to recover these files (even though they appear to be old)
[18:24] <erUSUL> sandyd80: so it jst give them a number (or probably uses the inode number)
[18:25] <sandyd80> yes all of them are just numbers (8 files total)
[18:25] <erUSUL> sandyd80: without knowing what they are (looking at its contents) is hard to know
[18:25] <fcuk112_> Kuifje111: have you tried installing sensors-applet?  it allows you to create an applet in your panel that uses data from sensors.
[18:26] <Kuifje111> ok, thanks.
[18:26] <iceroot> wiredfool: working fine on lenny and hardy
[18:26] <BlackFLAG> another question. will i be able to obtain ubuntu without a blank cd to burn it on? cuz i thought i had some but i dont
[18:26] <sdwrage> zomg.. guake is nice :)
[18:26] <iceroot> !usb | BlackFLAG
[18:26] <sandyd80> blackflag: use the USB method as described
[18:26] <meanieface> sdwrage: guake is nice, tilda is more configurable
[18:27] <sdwrage> meanieface, Had issues with tilda
[18:27] <meanieface> sdwrage: like what?
[18:27] <sdwrage> I resized to 90% width and it wouldnt go back
[18:27] <wiredfool> iceroot: found something related in the bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cron/+bug/308341
[18:27] <Kemper> Всем привет! Русскоговорящие есть?
[18:27] <sandyd80> erUSUL> dont u think its strange that the lost and found files are not dated with todays date?
[18:27] <sdwrage> and I tried to hide it... and it wouldnt hide
[18:27] <sdwrage> after the change
[18:27] <sdwrage> so I tried to resize it back... no go
[18:27] <sdwrage> so I just went with guake for now :)
[18:28] <iceroot> wiredfool: interesting
[18:28] <fcuk112_> yea guake rocks.
[18:28] <meanieface> sdwrage: thats odd, i used guake first, i loved it but i wanted the console to be on the bottom of the screen
[18:28] <sdwrage> meh... its no biggie... I dont mind it being up top
[18:29] <BlackFLAG> on the page u gave me it gives me instructions on how to copy ubuntu from a cd to a usb drive
[18:29] <BlackFLAG> i dont have a cd
[18:29] <sdwrage> maybe ill play with tilda some day
[18:29] <rookie> OMG
[18:29] <fcuk112_> you can also try yakuake, but i still prefer guake.
[18:29] <sdwrage> anyone know anything about installing open source ATI Drivers?
[18:29] <sdwrage> the proprietary ones suck balls
[18:30] <sdwrage> super slow
[18:30] <Kemper> прикольно самому с собой разговаривать!
[18:30] <Pici> !ru | Kemper
[18:30] <geniehost> hi all
[18:30] <rsk> sdwrage: the open are installed by default afaik
[18:30] <geniehost> I have a usb-floopy how can I find the device name of that one?
[18:30] <sdwrage> rsk, nah... I cant get to widescreen res
[18:31] <sdwrage> do I need to get xserver-xorg-video-ati?
[18:31] <rsk> yep that's the package
[18:31] <sdwrage> ok I will download it once I get home
[18:31] <sdwrage> at work right now on VMWare
[18:31] <Scunizi> The gui based "users & groups" doesn't show all the groups.. How do I see them all on CLI?
[18:32] <sandyd80> erUSUL> so are you saying that i am screwed?!
[18:32] <peke78> hola
[18:32] <geniehost> how can I find my usb-floppy device name?
[18:32] <geniehost> any command?
[18:32] <Kemper> Pici, ubottu, сенк ю )))))
[18:32] <geniehost> I am 8.04
[18:33] <wiredfool> iceroot: I can't get either of those commands to do anything, so, it's differently broken in 9.04
[18:33] <Floyd> anybody knows a way to have compiz on a dual-screen?
[18:36] <scatterp> hi how would i add language support for chinese to xchat so i can read/write ?
[18:36] <Scunizi> geniehost: unplug it and then open a terminal and type dmesg.. it will output a lot of stuff.. just look at the bottom lines.. then plug in the device and reissue the dmesg command again looking at the bottom of the list.. it may show up there.. also there's sudo lshw
[18:37] <Scunizi> how do I get a list of groups on my machine in terminal?
[18:37] <fcuk112_> scatterp: did you try administration -> language support?
[18:37] <llutz> Scunizi: $ cut -d":" -f 1 /etc/group
[18:37] <fcuk112_> scatterp: and use irssi :)
[18:37] <scatterp> k
[18:38] <grawity> scatterp: Network Settings -> Edit -> Charset: UTF-8
[18:38] <Scunizi> llutz: thanks.. that worked.. I output it to a text file.. how come the gui groups app doesn't list them all?
[18:39] <scatterp> grawity, thanks
[18:39] <llutz> Scunizi: idk
[18:39] <squelos> hello
[18:39] <orbisvicis> what are the default permissions on /var/log/apache/{access,error} ? I think I might have screwed them up?
[18:39] <squelos> i got a HP probook 4510s. Im running ubuntu on it (jaunty)
[18:39] <Scunizi> llutz: I was actaully looking for the right group for apache to put myself into.. you'd figure it would be listed.. DOH!
[18:39] <geniehost> thanks Scunizi , it's sdh
[18:40] <squelos> and the sound does come out of the integrated speaker. I managed to make it work on debian with the 2.6.30 kernel.
[18:40] <squelos> How should i proceed ?
[18:40] <llutz> Scunizi: isn't it www-data? no clue, sorry
[18:40] <Scunizi> geniehost: np :).. probably sdh1 for the disk once mounted
[18:41] <Scunizi> llutz: it is.. I just couldn't remember it and was having problems referencing it.
[18:41] <leopesto> rieccomi..... ;)
[18:41] <leopesto> tu mi dici quello che devo fare.... e io lo faccio... ;)
[18:42] <leopesto> provo a dare /etc/init.d/samba restart?
[18:42] <squelos> !es
[18:42] <orbisvicis> gah apache2 suddenly isn't logging anything
[18:42] <fcuk112_> !it
[18:42] <leopesto> sorry
[18:43] <leopesto> wrong chan ;)
[18:43] <leopesto> bye
[18:43] <nicolas> hello! could anybode please tell me where i can find the config file that pppoeconf creates?
[18:44] <lo127> I have a subversion repository in /var/<repos>, how do I set the filesystem permission so that multiple users can acces it?
[18:44] <SikEnCide> ive got an issue with ubuntu server
[18:44] <Scunizi> nicolas: perhaps in your /home directory.. but it will be hidden.. open the file manager and CTRL+H to view hidden files
[18:45] <bryar> Does anyone know how to burn a bootable dvd on Ubuntu?
[18:45] <raven_> hi - which folder is the audio-plugin-folder - how to install a plugin (.so-file)
[18:45] <nicolas> thank you :)
[18:45] <rbd> hi guys... we have an ubuntu 9.04 box running.... was running fine until today... but now we launch X and just about every command we start up either crashes with a segmentation fault immediately or shortly thereafter.... a strace shows that they seem to die in random locations... no pattern to it... sounds like a potential bad memory issue to me...anyone have an other opinions?
[18:45] <SikEnCide> ive got server 9.04 ... everytime i change my /etc/motd file it works, untill i rebot then it gets over written could i have some help please
[18:46] <beli> lo127: chmod -R o+r /path/to/folder   ...o stands for others....+r for adding read permissions,,, the -R does it recursive on all files and dirs
[18:46] <lo127> beli, is that really how its done?
[18:47] <beli> lo127: no. ask your local police officer
[18:47] <lo127> I was thinking about creating a group "subversion" an use chgrp -R subversion /path
[18:47] <beli> lo127: sure its done that way....read manuals! man chmod   and man chown
[18:47] <lo127> but that would force me to change the standard creaton group of all users to subversion, right?
[18:48] <beli> lo127: no...OTHERS stands for the rest of the world
[18:48] <beli> lo127: you can set perms for the user, the group and all others of the file/dir
[18:49] <lo127> beli, not sure I wan't all local users to have r+w in the repos
[18:49] <SikEnCide> ive got server 9.04 ... everytime i change my /etc/motd file it works, untill i rebot then it gets over written could i have some help please
[18:49] <Raykoid666> http://424a6161.linkseer.net <-- security tutorial for SQL injection, shortened url... my blog here: http://raykoid666.blogs.linkbucks.com
[18:49] <lo127> beli anyway, if a user creates a file in the repos, what happens with the permissions
[18:49] <lo127> it won't be 777 any more, will it?
[18:50] <bryar> I have found an ISO for Vista and I need to burn it to a DVD. I've tried Brasseo and Gnomebaker but neither one will make it bootable. Is there a command to burn it from terminal so I can burn it as a bootable disk?
[18:51] <synackfin> does anyone here use the 8-bay DAS (TR8M-B, uses SiI 3132 chipset)?
[18:51] <fcuk112_> bryar: try k3b.
[18:51] <sreckobb> hello
[18:51] <Aviram> HEy guys
[18:51] <llutz> bryar: growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso
[18:51] <sreckobb> any from Serbia
[18:51] <sreckobb> ?
[18:51] <Aviram> I wonder how can I find what is the path for my DVD Rom drive?
[18:51] <GMan> no
[18:52] <Aviram> I need it for dumping some DVD
[18:52] <Aviram> anyone? D:
[18:52] <Aviram> ??
[18:52] <llutz> Aviram: /dev/sr0 most likely
[18:52] <darkc0re> whois darkc0re
[18:52] <darkc0re> sorry :P
[18:53] <Jennifer> hello
[18:53] <Jennifer> erUSUL....so far everything is working with the 2D driver
[18:53] <beli> lo127: best way is to add the local users to one group....maybe they have a common group USERS....and then adjust the group permissions to +rw  ....existing files are unchanged of permissions...new files will take user:group
[18:53] <Jennifer> erUSUL...this might take a couple of weeks before the next crash
[18:54] <beli> lo127: why not just read the manuals? its all in there
[18:54] <lo127> beli: so the new files has to be manually changed to the correct group?
[18:54] <bryar> llutz:  "growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso" on the last part, do I have to give where the iso is located?
[18:54] <llutz> bryar: sure
[18:54] <Vock> I'm having a problem with screen size on a laptop: I plugged in an external monitor and Ubuntu automatically changed the resolution on my laptop, and then when I restored it and unplugged the external monitor, the screen size has shrunk (i.e. There are two black strips on the sides of the monitor that are not being used as part of the desktop). Any ideas how to treat this?
[18:54] <beli> lo127: no!
[18:54] <bryar> llutz: let me try it
[18:54] <sreckobb> growisofs is command ?
[18:55] <beli> lo127: you dont listen....read the manual
[18:55] <lo127> beli, chill out, I will
[18:56] <lo127> beli, thanks anyway
[18:56] <jimmy51_> how can i get a dump of my DNS settings from the terminal?
[18:57] <bryar> llutz: just once for clarification the command would read; growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=/home/bryar/WindowsVistaHomePremium.iso
[18:57] <llutz> bryar: yes
[18:58] <raven_> hi - which folder is the audio-plugin-folder - how to install a plugin (.so-file)
[18:58] <llutz> jimmy51_: cat /etc/resolv.conf   should give you the list of used nameservers
[18:58] <jimmy51_> thanks
[18:58] <sreckobb> how to install a flash plugin (.so-file)
[18:59] <sreckobb> ?
[18:59] <jimmy51_> llutz: i'm dealing with two subnets here.  from a windows box on subnet A i can ping HOSTNAME of a host on subnet B and it works.  in linux i have to ping HOSTNAME.DOMAIN.COM
[18:59] <jimmy51_> is that something i can resolve easily?
[18:59] <canthus13> sreckobb: You should be able to install flash via sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:00] <sreckobb> tnh
[19:00] <sreckobb> tnx
[19:00] <trism> sreckobb: or just sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree if you want just flash
[19:00] <canthus13> sreckobb: That'll also install other nice-to-have things like dvd playback and video codecs.
[19:00] <^mNotIntelligent> hi all!
[19:01] <`Jack> hi
[19:01] <^mNotIntelligent> I'm trying to register a dll using this: regsvr32 "C:\windows\system32\quartz.dll" but it gives me this error :  Failed to load DLL C:\windows\system32\quartz.dll, any idea?
[19:01] <^mNotIntelligent> !hi | `Jack
[19:01] <`Jack> anyone can tell me how do I set colors in termina ? for example to look like this : jack@Jack:~$
[19:01] <sreckobb> 	
[19:01] <sreckobb> thanks people
[19:01] <Pici> ^mNotIntelligent: If you're doing this under wine then the best place to ask is #winehq
[19:02] <^mNotIntelligent> thanks @ Pici
[19:03] <WanHouse> jimmy51_: Middle of the page: http://linux.about.com/od/lna_guide/a/gdelna46.htm
[19:04] <llutz> jimmy51_: if you have a local dns-server, it should do that.
[19:04] <jimmy51_> hmm
[19:04] <jimmy51_> i do have a DNS server.  that would probably be the way to go, right?
[19:04] <jimmy51_> then i wouldn't have to modify host.conf for every client
[19:04] <^mNotIntelligent> Pici, that channel is terribly slow...seems everyone is idle... I guess I've to wait for some time.... :-(
[19:05] <moltenbobcat> jimmy51_: all you should have todo is set your dns suffix to primary  domain.com
[19:05] <WanHouse> jimmy51_: No need to do that if you have pointed your /etc/resolv.conf DNS addresses to a local DNS.
[19:05] <Kiltach> quick question because its kind of important right now, on the default wireless connection manager does the icon of two black boxes (in the same place as the broadcast tower with shield that means encryption) mean an adhoc connection
[19:05] <Kiltach> pretty sure someone is trying to bait people at my library
[19:05] <llutz> jimmy51_: i needed to gove some additional options to dnsmasq running on my router, when i had a similar issue
[19:05] <erUSUL> Jennifer: been away a while again sorry; good luck with the testing
[19:05] <moltenbobcat> jimmy51_: it should be the top line in the resolv.conf as domain domain.com
[19:06] <WanHouse> moltenbobcat is correct.
[19:06] <raven_> how to install LADSPA-plugins - which folder is the right one? (plugin is x.so file)
[19:06] <jimmy51_> moltenbobcat: ah, that's probably the source of the problem
[19:06] <moltenbobcat> jimmy51_: yeah if that's in there it will automatically append onto any dns lookups that aren't fully qualified
[19:06] <jimmy51_> there are multiple domain names among the subnets
[19:07] <moltenbobcat> jimmy51_: well you can only have one primary dns suffix as far as I know
[19:07] <jimmy51_> i wonder how windows is making ti work
[19:07] <jimmy51_> maybe WINS ?
[19:07] <eb4bgr> help about ubuntu loading
[19:07] <knoppix> whats up
[19:08] <babak> how can in understand my ubuntu is 32 bit or 64 bit?
[19:08] <eb4bgr> want to load ubuntu CD into Fat-32 as live-HD mode
[19:08] <knoppix_> hello?
[19:09] <bryar> llutz: burnt properly. am going to check if it will work.
[19:09] <mkcottle> New (today) to Ububtu.  Attempting to get broadcom driver working for wifi on dv5000 cpu.  (using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx) for guide, but having difficulty following terminal steps.
[19:10]  * meindian523 waits
[19:10] <WanHouse> jimmy51_: DNS adresses as well. They also tell in what order to search the configured DNS's.
[19:11] <mkcottle> pulled the requested files down on alternate computer and xfered them using thumbdrive.  where to 'place' them so terminal command lines work?
[19:11] <rnk_> hey all, how do I figure out which package provides a certain file?  I'm missing /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop
[19:11] <meindian523> mkcottle, .debs?
[19:11] <mkcottle> no, the .bz2 and the wl_apasta=3.130.20.0.o files
[19:12]  * meindian523 calls whoever was helping mkcottle before
[19:12] <mkcottle> I tried to simply use the fw-cutter deb, but the cpu doesn't have alternate internet access to pull the files down automatically.
[19:12] <jimdandy> Hello all! I am using ubuntu-desktop (Jaunty), and I installed samba. I have noticed my hostname is visible to networks I connect to. Is samba responsible for this?
[19:13] <jimmy51_> WanHouse: i'm confused.  My windows boxes who get their DNS from the same DNS server as my linux box are able to ping anybody without the dns suffix.  my linux box cannot.  is this reasonable, or do i have a problem?
[19:14] <WanHouse> jimdandy: They can query for the samba hostname (Can be any name you like).
[19:14] <bryar> llutz: it failed to boot...
[19:14] <llutz> bryar: broken iso
[19:14] <jimdandy> WanHouse: So if I uninstalled samba, this query wouldn't return anything?
[19:14] <whotopia> \join #openwrt
[19:14] <bryar> llutz: do you know how to fix?
[19:15] <WanHouse> jimdandy: stop samba and test it.
[19:15] <llutz> bryar: nope
[19:15] <mkcottle> Meindian523, they aren't on.
[19:15] <paoloz> hi to all
[19:15] <paoloz> anyone can tell me the name of a program wich i can create a film from photo?
[19:15] <bryar> llutz: bollocks
[19:15] <jimdandy> Wanhouse: I only have one computer :-)
[19:15] <eb4bgr> want to load Ubuntu 9.04 CD into Fat-32 as live-HD mode.  is there any way ??
[19:15] <WanHouse> jimmy51_: Put in some "search domain.com" at the top of the file.
[19:16] <jimmy51_> WanHouse: in the /etc/host.conf file on the client?
[19:16] <WanHouse> jimmy51_: /etc/resolv.conf
[19:16] <bryar> llutz: will try XP and then download Nero... Option for boot there.
[19:17] <mkcottle> new user looking for help with jaunty and broadcom wireless driver.
[19:17] <llutz> bryar: not if you burn an iso
[19:17] <jimmy51_> WanHouse: that's working.
[19:17] <WanHouse> jimmy51_: Neat
[19:18] <jimmy51_> WanHouse: thanks.  i guess i'll just have to do that for every linux box here.
[19:18] <Jeruvy> paoloz: try kino
[19:18] <jimmy51_> it still seems odd that windows can do it without explicitly indicating it
[19:18] <urthmover> how do you magnify zoom in on the ubuntu desktop?
[19:18] <[manas]> anyone saw jimmio ?
[19:18] <maninho> hi people
[19:18] <mkcottle> :-D anyone able to help?
[19:18] <WanHouse> jimmy51_: For all domains in that case. Or do every box belong to its own domain :)
[19:18] <JoshuaL> just ask mkcottle :D
[19:19] <maninho> how are you?
[19:19] <bryar> llutz: either way i end up with frizzbees
[19:19] <mkcottle> heh.  let me go back and copy/paste.
[19:19]  * stat_eno saluta
[19:19] <llutz> bryar: ever heard of dvd-rw? :)
[19:19] <jimmy51_> WanHouse: three domains... production, development, and testing
[19:19] <mkcottle> New (today) to Ububtu.  Attempting to get broadcom driver working for wifi on dv5000 cpu.  (using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx) for guide, but having difficulty following terminal steps.
[19:19] <WanHouse> jimmy51_: Add those.
[19:19] <paoloz> Jeruvy: thanks
[19:19] <trism> mkcottle: need to be a bit more specific
[19:19] <paoloz> i will try
[19:20] <jimmy51_> WanHouse: they're all working when added to resolve.conf on the clients i've done so far
[19:20] <mkcottle> pulled the requested files down on alternate computer and xfered them using thumbdrive.  where to 'place' them so terminal command lines work?
[19:20] <bryar> llutz: too pricey. and my stepmom has all of them
[19:20] <mkcottle> jaunty cpu does not have alternate internet access... so trying to get the fw-cutter.deb package set to run manually
[19:20] <WanHouse> jimmy51_: alright
[19:21] <mkcottle> still need more info?
[19:21] <dallix> how do I install the ppc codecs in ubntu 9.04 ... I have added medibuntu to my resporitories ... but apt get install ppc codecs doesn't work ... it says here that there are ppc codecs .. http://packages.medibuntu.org/jaunty/non-free-codecs.html ... but at the bottom of the page it only lists the x86 codecs and the amd64 codecs ... how do i get ppc codecs?
[19:21] <thiscomputer> is there a way to make all actions sudo in terminal?
[19:21] <m0RrE> hey, guys.. i quick question. is it possible to clone two displays with different refresh rates? the card is nvidia 9800gtx
[19:21] <WanHouse> thiscomputer: "su -"
[19:22] <jimmy51_> thiscomputer: that's dangerous, but if you really want to you can run bash as sudo i think
[19:22] <WanHouse> thiscomputer: You may need to unlock the root account first with the user configurator.
[19:22] <fission6> how do i allow my login name to write to /opt
[19:22] <jimmy51_> sudo bash
[19:22] <habanos> does anyone know a good free voip with iax provider
[19:22] <raven_> how to install LADSPA-plugins - which folder is the right one? (plugin is x.so file)
[19:23] <llutz> thiscomputer: sudo -i
[19:23] <thiscomputer> wanhouse would su - be indifinate
[19:23] <LjL> !sudo
[19:23] <red_> hello everyone
[19:23] <mkcottle> I put the wl_apasta-3.130.20.0.o on the desktop.  when I run terminal  sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apasta-3.130.20.0.o and put in the password, reply is "cannot open input file wl_apasta-3.130.20.0.o"
[19:23] <LjL> thiscomputer: "sudo -i" is recommended (in the context of doing everything via sudo being NOT recommended to begin with, of course)
[19:23] <WanHouse> jimmy51_: Only ubuntu does it this way. On all other dists you can "su -". Its only insecure if somehow the administrator (You) forget to close the terminal (Not likely).
[19:24] <axisys> how do I let users to edit files using vi and have the RCS done automatically in the background.. or what is better and simple way to keep all files managed using revision control..  ?
[19:24] <trism> mkcottle: you need to make sure you are in the desktop folder, try cd Desktop first
[19:24] <nathan7> 0xffb00b
[19:24] <trism> mkcottle: err cd ~/Desktop
[19:24] <LjL> thiscomputer: (being root all the time will have bad implications for your files' permissions - they may become unreadable by your user - aside from the obvious security issues)
[19:24] <mkcottle> in terminal?
[19:24] <sahilsk> hey do i know how can i open password protected zip file??
[19:24] <trism> mkcottle: yes
[19:24] <mkcottle> trying it. thx trism
[19:24] <WanHouse> nathan7: I see you have an abundance ;)
[19:24] <sahilsk> i've tried using rarcrack, but no use.
[19:24] <llutz> sahilsk: man unzip
[19:24] <thiscomputer> hmn what i really want to do is stop the other users
[19:25] <nathan7> WanHouse: ?
[19:25] <sahilsk> llutz: password protected  file??
[19:25] <dbugger> Hey guys, any of you use minitube?
[19:25] <nathan7> no, megatube
[19:25] <WanHouse> nathan7: ?
[19:25] <nathan7> Actually, I use an intertube
[19:25] <WanHouse> ^^
[19:25] <nathan7> vv
[19:26] <dbugger> a small app to see youtube in the desktop
[19:26] <mkcottle> Trism, it gave me bash: cd: /home/crossmark/desktop: no such file or directory.
[19:26] <dbugger> I dont kno why, it's not playing :(
[19:26] <llutz> sahilsk: -P password
[19:26] <jer> just out of curiosity, anyone know of an equivalent way of taking an ubuntu cd iso image and putting it on a usb stick, akin to usb-creator, but something that'll run on osx? (only other laptop i have right now)
[19:26] <trism> mkcottle: ubuntu (linux in general) is case-sensitive
[19:26] <trism> mkcottle: it is a capital D
[19:26] <mgolisch> its Desktop probably
[19:26] <WanHouse> thiscomputer: edit the /etc/sudoers file
[19:26] <mgolisch> unless you changed that
[19:26] <mkcottle> Oh. retrying
[19:27] <tarelerulz> Do any of you know the package for Konqueor that gives you files size view ? Or some other way too see what files are taking up a bunch of space. My Vista don't work so I wanted to clear some space on the partition .
[19:27] <sahilsk> llutz: i need to break the password of zip file.
[19:27] <llutz> sahilsk: ask in #how-to-become-1337-hackz0r
[19:27] <sahilsk> lol
[19:27] <WanHouse> thiscomputer: Make sure you can "su -" first or youll lock out everyone and have to rescue.
[19:27] <llutz> sahilsk: you asked to open, not to crack
[19:27] <thiscomputer> what i want to do for certain is stop the unprivliaged account from accessing any of the main file systems folders is there a way to do that
[19:28] <zleap> tarelerulz, you should be able to display file size in konqueror
[19:28] <Jennifer> ok...good news...it crashed again...right now
[19:28] <dallix> .join #how-to-become-1337-hackz0r
[19:28] <Jennifer> this time i do have flashing keyboard
[19:28] <Jennifer> what does this mean?
[19:28] <llutz> Jennifer: kernel-panik
[19:28] <prince_jammys> thiscomputer: why?
[19:28] <Jennifer> erUSUL...you here?
[19:28] <llutz> panic*
[19:28] <sahilsk> llutz: great....my mistake...
[19:28] <thiscomputer> its a child
[19:28] <mkcottle> in desktop (I think) still got the cannot open input file wl_apasta-3.130.20.0.o response
[19:28] <Scunizi> Is there a browser based control utility for mysql that's in the repos?
[19:28] <Jennifer> lllutz....what should i do now
[19:28] <babak> how can understand my ubuntu is 32bit or 64bit?
[19:29] <willy> hy all
[19:29] <trism> mkcottle: type pwd
[19:29] <prince_jammys> thiscomputer: regular users can't write to those files.
[19:29] <trism> mkcottle: and if you're in the corect directory, type ls and see if the file is there
[19:29] <mkcottle> it didn't ask for it this time.
[19:29] <Jennifer> i am using nonproprietary videodriver
[19:29] <WanHouse> thiscomputer: Regualr users always need access to /bin/* and /usr/* etc to function (be able to login etc) why ?
[19:29] <llutz> Jennifer: press ALT-SYSRQ-S/E/I/U/B
[19:29] <Jennifer> as erUSUL suggested...this time the error does give a flashing keyboard
[19:29] <willy> someone can help me to connect an webserver to a host?
[19:29] <willy> pls
[19:29] <rmmRMM> any way to speed up the visual bell in GNOME? right now, the refresh takes around a second :-/
[19:30] <mkcottle> Trism, pwd give me the response /home/crossmark/Desktop
[19:30] <Jennifer> llutz....sysrq?  is that control?
[19:30] <WanHouse> willy: ?
[19:30] <iarp> for some reason, i have 11 apache processes running might there be a reason why? ubuntu server 9.04
[19:30] <llutz> Jennifer: nope, should be on "print" key
[19:30] <jd__> Hi can anyone help with a simple audio question
[19:30] <trism> mkcottle: then you should be in the correct directory (since you said you put the files on the Desktop), is the file listed in ls?
[19:30] <BlackFLAG> i downloaded the ubuntu file to my USB flash and my external hard drive. now what do i do to run ubuntu? or to install it?
[19:30] <Jennifer> llutz...should i hold that entire combination at once?
[19:30] <llutz> Jennifer: http://www.debian-administration.org/article/The_magic_sysreq_options_introduced
[19:30] <khtaam> babak, run: uname -a, if it says i686 its 32 bit
[19:31] <thiscomputer> i set up a second accont for the child but found i can still access my desktop and such through his/her i dont want that being done
[19:31] <ender> would anyone know why I cant dual boot with ubuntu because when I try to boot to cd I get blue screen?
[19:31] <trism> mkcottle: you may have just mistyped it if it is, you can try using the tab key to autocomplete the filename
[19:31] <mkcottle> trism, retrying.
[19:31] <llutz> Jennifer: it's 5 commands
[19:32] <jd__> I have changed all my audio selections to sB audigy audio is fine but on the web (youtube ect.) I get no audio can anyone direct me where these settings may be?
[19:32] <tarelerulz> zleap, I looked under view and the option it give are detail , list , columns .  On ever other version of Konqueor I had to install an extra package .
[19:32] <vlad> hello! I wanna install ubuntu 9.10 on my desktop PC. Will I need to reinstall my system when the finall(stable) version is released? It´s just 10 deys but I can´t wait to use it;)
[19:32] <rmmRMM> vlad: no you don't
[19:32] <mkcottle> Trism.  that file extracted...woot.  moving on to the rest. thx.
[19:32] <trism> mkcottle: good luck
[19:32] <Jeruvy> ender: a blue screen from windows?  Sounds like you system is not booting from cd/dvd.
[19:32] <khtaam> vlad, no, it will be updated to final release
[19:33] <vlad> lovely, TY
[19:33] <vlad> getting it right now
[19:33] <rmmRMM> vlad: just run apt-get dist-upgrade and it wll update on the fly
[19:34] <ender> I can boot to other live cds though
[19:34] <ender> and I cant format to ntfs either if that helps
[19:34] <jd__> If anyone can help Direc me   need help with a simple audio prob
[19:34] <Jeruvy> ender; did you md5 check the cd in question?
[19:34] <Jennifer> llutz...still blinking
[19:34] <ender> md5 check?
[19:34] <Jeruvy> !md5 | ender
[19:34] <Jennifer> llutz...is there a control/alt/del version for ubuntu?
[19:35] <thiscomputer> the reason for why i want to block the children from accessing any of the main files photos ecetera
[19:35] <llutz> Jennifer: won't work after a kernel-panic. sysrq is the only way (or shutting power off)
[19:35] <Bragex9> how do i completely remove firefiox from my system?
[19:36] <ineuw> help with ubuntu 9.10 installation needed
[19:36] <Jennifer> ok....just a logic question now.  Now that im using a nonproprietary driver, still crashed BUT now i have a flashing keyboard which i didnt have before....does this suggest a bad graphics card?
[19:36] <Bodsda> Can I use samba as a file sharing solution between two Ubuntu machines?
[19:36] <darko_> hello, can i use my tomboy notes with gnote?
[19:36] <Jeruvy> ineuw: please join #ubuntu+1 for help with karmic.
[19:36] <llutz> Jennifer: no clue, sorry
[19:36] <kusanagi_> Jennifer, ati?
[19:36] <Jennifer> kusanagi...nvidia
[19:36] <ineuw> Karmic's kernel should be 2.6.31-14.48-generic but mine is
[19:37] <ineuw> Ubuntu 2.6.27-7.16-generic
[19:37] <kusanagi_> propietary driver works pretty fine to me
[19:37] <ineuw> and this is after installation of 9.10
[19:37] <Jennifer> kusanagi...i was using the proprietary
[19:37] <Bodsda> ineuw: please, you were asked to take karmic discussions to #ubuntu+1
[19:37] <ineuw> thanks
[19:38] <kusanagi_> Jennifer, there is no ctrl + alt + del ctrl + alt + f1 and the htop insted
[19:38] <Jennifer> sometimes i get the strong suspicion that this is all DESIGNED to waste our collective time...am i alone with the perspective?
[19:38] <jd__> help me please I need audio for the internet I use a SB audigy card Ive change all my settings over and audio tested   everything works but no audi online where would this setting be
[19:38] <Bodsda> Jennifer: what is 'this'?
[19:38] <kusanagi_> Jennifer, well, im sure u are not the only one... but quite wasting ur time...
[19:38] <angelo-026> Hello . i need help i wil install a max osx work balk on my ubuntu?
[19:38] <mkcottle> Trism - it all worked out fine - rebooted and it's online.  thank you again for your help with learning the terminal.
[19:38] <Creap> I have installed eggdrop from the repositories but need to recompile it to add a module. I have all the -src repos in my sources.list, but where is the sourcecode?
[19:38] <darko_> hello, can i use my tomboy notes with gnote?
[19:38] <Jennifer> Bodsda...civilization in general
[19:38] <Bodsda> Jennifer: oh yeah... thats buggered
[19:39] <rhend15> Hello can somebody help me with this problem is am searching for an solution for an mac bar, with those big round buttons here is an example : http://www.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp/guide/gazou/Mac-desktop-english.jpg
[19:39] <Bodsda> Creap: try a   sudo apt-get source <packagename>
[19:39] <kusanagi_> Jennifer, and you are living in the nice side of civilization...
[19:40] <Bodsda> rhend15: you mean the application dock?
[19:40] <Creap> ok thanks
[19:40] <rhend15> Yes thats what i mean,
[19:40] <Bodsda> !awn | rhend15
[19:40] <kusanagi_> rhend15, gnome do bar or avant window manager
[19:40] <rhend15> Thanks i will take a look at it :)
[19:40] <llutz> Jennifer: don't you have a spare graphics-card for testing (or your neighbour)?
[19:41] <sandyd80> Anyone able to help...my ubuntu i broke, i get as far as a blank desktop with the mouse pointer and it seems to get stuck there, how do i go about troubleshooting this_
[19:41] <Bodsda> Can I use samba as a file sharing solution between two Ubuntu machines?
[19:41] <kusanagi_> just buy a new one u know its compatible
[19:41] <kusanagi_> the cheapest one
[19:41] <llutz> Bodsda: sure
[19:41] <m0RrE> how can i set different refresh rates on my default screen and my 40" tv connected via hdmi
[19:41] <Bodsda> llutz: sweet
[19:42] <Jennifer> llutz...i may swap cards later tonight...i only have a box full
[19:42] <llutz> Bodsda: why not nfs?
[19:42] <Glowball> Anyone in here who is using Dutch Ubuntu? No further requirements to answer my question :P
[19:42] <thiscomputer> thanx all
[19:42] <thiscomputer> bye
[19:42] <Bodsda> llutz: cause I know where the docs are for samba :)
[19:42] <Jennifer> llutz....older should be better for drivers right?  Would you suggest ati or nvidia 64-256mb cards
[19:42] <willy> someone can help me to connect an webserver to a host?
[19:42] <kusanagi_> sandyd80, http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=gnome+default+ubuntu
[19:43] <Bodsda> Jennifer: nvidia
[19:43] <llutz> Jennifer: no idea what to suggest, i'm using an old 6200
[19:43] <Glowball> Well, I can better ask it straight away: does anybody know how well Ubuntu is translated to Dutch? I'm thinking of using it instead of the English version, but I can't stand bad translations...
[19:43] <Bodsda> !dutch
[19:43] <Jennifer> just as an aside, has anyone figured out how to ditch civilization before we destroy ourselves?
[19:43] <ender> "dbb274edbb28019b584ec47678a16d52  WinXP.iso" is my output for an md5sum command
[19:44] <Glowball> Ah, ok
[19:44] <Bodsda> Glowball: try asking in #ubuntu-nl
[19:44] <Scunizi> how do I access mysql-admin web gui?  http://localhost:<what's the port number> or another method?
[19:44] <Bodsda> Jennifer: yeah, I wrote a script for that... gimme a sec
[19:44] <Kuifje111> Scunizi: 3301, maybe?
[19:44] <llutz> Jennifer: let it go, nature will say: thank you for leaving
[19:45] <Scunizi> Kuifje111: suprisingly, it's actually a gui with a launcher off the menu.. not browser based..
[19:45] <Scunizi> Kuifje111: just found the link in the menu :)
[19:45] <jgay> so, i just lost trackpad/nub/mouse-button control on my dell d620 laptop (running karmic). Does anybody know if there is a good place to find out what *should* appear when I cat /proc/bus/input/devices
[19:45] <Kuifje111> Scunizi: all right.
[19:47] <Garnol> hi, i need to find out the wirelesslan password of a router, can you give me a hint how to get it?
[19:47] <llutz> Garnol: ask the owner
[19:47] <Scunizi> Kuifje111: except it's acking for the Server Host Name.. I'm trying "localhost" but not sure .
[19:47] <sandyd80> kusanagi: so do you mean that i shoud delete all of my .gnome folders?
[19:47] <rhend15> Garnol: What kind of encryption is it ?
[19:47] <Garnol> i think its wpa
[19:47] <Garnol> or wpa2
[19:48] <rhend15> Garnol: There are no way's to crack wpa, only brute forcing
[19:48] <ender> Can anyone help me, I cant seem to format any partitions to NTFS
[19:48] <llutz> Garnol: wpa - maybe aircrack, wpa2 - ask owner
[19:48] <Garnol> wpa2 is uncrackable?
[19:48] <darkham> how many time would take gparted to format a 4gb pendrive in ext3?
[19:48] <pistyman> does anybody have a problem where their display preferences wont load and needs to be forced to quit?
[19:48] <rhend15> llutz: aircrack also brute force on wpa
[19:48] <Kuifje111> wpa2 is quite difficult to crack.
[19:48] <daevski> I have Samba running and a directory shared... how can I make my files accessable by ftp client (aka make my system listen on port 21)?
[19:49] <Panzer> I have a gateway m6848 laptop.  I have installed ubuntu 9.04.  IN the install and afterward the machine is not able to find the dhcp server and when I edit the interfaces file I can't get the eth0 connection up.
[19:49] <llutz> rhend15: with chance to succeed
[19:49] <Kuifje111> daevski: install an ftp daemon.
[19:49] <rhend15> Garnol: yes it is only by brute force hacking.
[19:49] <Garnol> ok, i heard of a technic to send out a disturbing signal and catching the password afterwords
[19:49] <Garnol> ok
[19:49] <rhend15> llutz: indeed
[19:49] <Kuifje111> Garnol: thats basically only with WEP.
[19:49] <Garnol> hm
[19:49] <llutz> Garnol: WEP takes about 30 seconds
[19:49] <daevski> Kuifje111: ah, thanks! I knew I was missing something. Is there a common one?
[19:50] <rhend15> llutz: how do you crack web ?
[19:50] <kusanagi_> rhend15, goolge it
[19:50] <llutz> rhend15: aircrack-ng
[19:50] <Kuifje111> daevski: you mgiht want to try vsftpd.
[19:50] <kusanagi_> and its WEP
[19:50] <jimmy51_> does this mean anything to anyone here:  "You may just need to add "SSLRequireSSL" to your AuthConfig section. "  ?
[19:50] <Garnol> ok
[19:50] <rhend15> llutz: is that the only thing i need because they always talk about kismet
[19:50] <daevski> Kuifje111: how does it compare to what I just found on google: pure-ftpd ?
[19:51] <llutz> rhend15: http://aircrack-ng.org/
[19:51] <WanHouse> daevski: gadmin-proftpd for comfortable servings.
[19:51] <Kuifje111> daevski: I have no experience with pure-ftpd, but vsftpd worked all right for me.
[19:51] <rhend15> llutz: Thanks
[19:51] <daevski> Kuifje111: is it GUI or cli?
[19:51] <llutz> rhend15: but it's hard to find WEP-networks today
[19:51] <daevski> wanhouse: thank you.
[19:52] <WanHouse> daevski: gadmin-proftpd is GUI. Np
[19:52] <Kuifje111> daevski: proftpd is probably the most popular one amongst professional usage.
[19:52] <Garnol> how long do you think will i need to crack my wpa network?
[19:52] <kusanagi_> llutz, it depends on where u live... lol here there are tons of old routers still working
[19:52] <rhend15> llutz: Yes i know, sadly enough :(
[19:52] <llutz> Garnol: ages :)
[19:52] <Kuifje111> daevski: there are probably GUIs available, but I prefer to keep it CLI.
[19:52] <Garnol> or is there any alternativ method?
[19:52] <Kuifje111> Garnol: dont try it, will possibly take years.
[19:52] <daevski> Kuifje111 / wanhouse: alright thank you both!
[19:53] <ab2qik> Help needed with audio streaming recorder for jaunty?
[19:53] <BluShift> Hey! Has anyone used the Logitech X-540 speakers with Ubuntu? Do they work?
[19:53] <WanHouse> daevski: Np
[19:53] <kusanagi_> ab2qik, just ask
[19:53] <Kuifje111> you're welcome.
[19:53] <mMezquitale> what command tells you what cpu you have?
[19:53] <llutz> mMezquitale: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[19:53] <FCalderon> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[19:53] <kusanagi_> mMezquitale,  sudo apt-get sysinfo
[19:53] <Kuifje111> thats the one
[19:54] <sandyd80> kusanagi: do  you mean that i should restore the gnome panels to there default settings, the google search wasnt very clear, could you provide a link to specific info
[19:54] <BluShift> I know they need a special driver; does this driver or an alternate work for them?
[19:54] <fission6> how do i install firefox32
[19:54] <mMezquitale> llutz, thanks, that one did it
[19:54] <Kuifje111> apt-get install firefox
[19:54] <Iluso> BUERNAS TARDES
[19:54] <Skol__> hi all. how can I figure out which gecko version am I using? is there any "about:gecko" address that I can use? I'm using Ubuntu and "Help" -> "About" didn't show me anything that I find useful
[19:54] <Iluso> UN SALUDO DESDE MARACAIBO VENEZUELA
[19:54] <ab2qik> been using total recorder for wins. It records shoutcat etc.. into separate tracks. Is there an equivalent for jaunty? E.g gstreamer?
[19:54] <FCalderon> Iluso: no uses mayusculas, se consideran gritos
[19:54] <Kuifje111> Skol__: maybe you should join #gecko instead.
[19:54] <llutz> !es | Iluso
[19:54] <Iluso> ALGUIEN ME AYUDA PARA INSTALAR FLASHPLAYER
[19:54] <mMezquitale> kusanagi_,  i'm on ssh, so i could only use command line
[19:54] <Iluso> EN UBUNTU+
[19:54] <Gnea> !caps | Iluso
[19:54] <Iluso> PLEASE
[19:54] <FloodBot3> Iluso: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:55] <kusanagi_> mMezquitale, ok :D
[19:55] <Iluso> tahnks
[19:55] <mMezquitale> Iluso, pregunta en ingles y te contestaran
[19:55] <Gnea> Iluso: /join #ubuntu-es
[19:55] <Skol__> Kuifje111, I don't think that you got my question... btw, thanks
[19:55] <Iluso> alguien que me ayude con flash player
[19:55] <sandyd80> Anyone able to help...my ubuntu i broke, i get as far as a blank desktop with the mouse pointer and it seems to get stuck there, how do i go about troubleshooting this_
[19:55] <joakimk> Is there any way to have a button in my "tray" (a shortcut) which opens a set of programs? For instance, when I work, I need a Terminal window with 5 tabs (going to certain dirs, and some opening SSH connections), and let's say Firefox and Thunderbird?
[19:55] <kusanagi_> sandyd80, yeah, i had a problem similitar to what you describe... i erased all the gnome configurations stuff, then log out and log it again and everything work to normal
[19:56] <FCalderon> sandyd80: do you have the menus on top or not even that?
[19:56] <joakimk> so I could hit "Work" button, and everything would unfold to my liking :)
[19:56] <FCalderon> joakimk you would need to do some shell scripting, it isn't that hard
[19:56] <sandyd80> no menus, right click doesnt work, alt-f2 doesnt work
[19:56]  * stat_eno hi to all
[19:56] <FCalderon> sandyd80: Are you using gnome or kde?
[19:57] <Gnea> sandyd80: what about ctrl-alt-f1?
[19:57] <Elixir> hi .. python made problem in my system(hardy 8.04) and yesterday it crashed and not back till I reinstall python and gnome .. how can I know the source of the problem ?
[19:57] <sandyd80> FCalderon: gnome
[19:57] <ab2qik> Hey help with recording streaming audio would be great
[19:57] <joakimk> FCalderon: I was thinking there would exist some tool which "remembers" the programs running right now, and can recall them next time I hit the button. If you see what I mean :)
[19:57] <Gnea> Elixir: examine ~/.xsession-errors
[19:57] <trism> joakimk: you could also use something like screen for the terminal windows (I have screen automatically open up 6 windows starting various programs and shells when it starts)
[19:57] <WanHouse> joakimk: so you mean a single button to launch many different programs ? (Local or remote via ssh) ?
[19:57] <joakimk> WanHouse: Local
[19:57] <userhome> =)
[19:57] <sandyd80> Gnea: never tried alt-f1, i'm on live-cd now
[19:58] <FCalderon> joakimk I don't know about any tool that does that, however if you happen to find it please let me know, as that would be extremely useful here
[19:58] <Gnea> sandyd80: no, not alt-f1. ctrl-alt-f1
[19:58] <kusanagi_> ab2qik, just ask whats the problem
[19:58] <sandyd80> ok, no, what does that do?
[19:58] <FCalderon> sandyd80: ctrl-alt-f1 should take you to a shell (command line)
[19:58] <joakimk> FCalderon: hehe I will :)
[19:58] <sandyd80> ok, what would i do from there, if it should work?
[19:59] <stat_eno> i can't write a DVD-r ... " /dev/sr0 has been opened read-only"
[19:59] <FCalderon> joakimk Maybe the "suspend" and "hibernate" functions would work, you can save the current program states and restore them the next time you boot up
[19:59] <ab2qik> kusanagi_: Need to record into separate tracks so a playlist is formed.
[19:59] <Elixir> Gnea .. how ?
[19:59] <Gnea> Elixir: with a text editor or terminal pager, like less
[19:59] <FCalderon> sandy80: try running nautilus and see if that works
[19:59] <kusanagi_> ab2qik, where are you gettint the streams
[19:59] <WanHouse> joakimk: GNOME/gnome-terminal could have some open-tab options maybe. I suggest "man gnome-terminal", because its tabbable.
[19:59] <kusanagi_> from
[19:59] <joakimk> FCalderon: yea, but I don't always want this to happen. And maybe I could have a suite of shortcuts
[19:59] <ab2qik> kusanagi_: shoutcast. Im
[20:00] <ender> sorry to re-post but does anyone know why I cant format to ntfs or use a windows cd?
[20:00] <joakimk> WanHouse: I see... I guess a shell script would be the easiest
[20:00] <sandyd80> ok, i go try
[20:00] <sandyd80> thanx
[20:00] <]{LiK`Ev][L`> hi there
[20:00] <WanHouse> joakimk: Yeah, thats what im thinking.
[20:00] <]{LiK`Ev][L`> I'm going to need support in a second
[20:00] <FCalderon> joakimk but a shell script will just open those programs for you, it won't remember their last state
[20:00] <ab2qik> kusanagi_: It works in vista using total recorder. Need something similar that can do it
[20:00] <Gnea> ]{LiK`Ev][L`: a second is up.
[20:01] <ab2qik> kusanagi_: that can do it in jaunty ofc.
[20:01] <joakimk> FCalderon: no... I only need the tabs to go to their respective dirs, and some to open SSH connections. Then I start working
[20:01] <FCalderon> ender: a windows cd isn't ntfs formated.
[20:01] <joakimk> FCalderon: so I guess shell script is really the solution
[20:01] <kusanagi_> ab2qik, i dont really know whats the problem, a regular recorder will record stream...
[20:01] <kusanagi_> what program are you using for shoutcast
[20:01] <Kirsch> hey all, i'm running ubuntu hardy server and i ran updates, now when i try and use certain programs, /dev/null is chmodded to 600, so a non-root user trying to access anything that needs it dies, i saw a launchpad bug about it but no real solution except to add an init script to change it to 666, is there a real solution yet?
[20:01] <Gnea> ender: because microsoft said 'no'
[20:02] <trism> !screen | joakimk
[20:02] <FCalderon> Kirsch: what's wrong with having it chmoded to 666 every time you boot up?
[20:02] <ZykoticK9> ab2qik, check out streamripper - download online streams into audio files, not sure if it breaks stuff up into files though - it might
[20:02] <Kirsch> FCalderon: its a hack fix, why isn't it creating it on boot as 666?
[20:02] <Kirsch> FCalderon: i'm concerned something ELSE is wrong...
[20:02] <ab2qik> kusanagi_: Yes i have recorded with gstreamer on jaunty. But how can you build a playlist of separate tracks as you hit record and stop. Record stop, etc.
[20:03] <ender> I have two separate problems where I cant get past "starting windows" on my windows cd. Or format to NTFS using gparted
[20:03] <ZykoticK9> Kirsch, i'd ask the same question in #ubuntu-server
[20:03] <WanHouse> Kirsch: sounds like Ubuntu creates it wrong. In /etc/udev... rules somewhere you can probably change it
[20:03] <kusanagi_> ab2qik, a playlist? you mean a textfile with the names of the files you want to play?
[20:03] <Gnea> ender: again, microsoft said "NO!!!"
[20:03] <Gnea> ender: you have to use the cd to format ntfs
[20:03] <FCalderon> ender: are you trying to run a windows install CD from ubuntu?
[20:04] <nyash> Hello. How to change the localhost.domainname.xxx   name of my ubuntu computer? I had already changed the localhost name in /etc/hostname, but I would like to change the domainname. How to do it?
[20:04] <WanHouse> Kirsch: Then they have effectively destroyed the /dev/null shells.
[20:04] <ender> no from boot
[20:04] <Kirsch> WanHouse: yes, thats what the problem is
[20:04] <falstaff|h> Hello, can somebody help me debug a cryptsetup problem? I try to decrypt a small encrypted filesystem in a file via loopback.... I get asked 4-5 times for my password (im absolut sure the password is correct, it works when the system is booted)
[20:04] <ab2qik> kusanagi_: Names of files that the recorder records and saves with auto generated filenames. THis forms the playlist.
[20:04] <WanHouse> Kirsch: File it as a bug. A severe one at that.
[20:04] <FCalderon> ender: the windows install is completely independent of ubuntu, therefore if you're having problems running the installer, maybe it's just that your hard disk is failing
[20:04] <Gnea> Kirsch: is this with jaunty?
[20:05] <falstaff|h> THe problem is, there is much output between the password question, but i cant scroll within usplash... is this output somwhere logged? syslog doesnt contains it
[20:05] <Kirsch> Gnea: no, hardy
[20:05] <stat_eno> how to mount a disk if reports an error like http://pastebin.com/m530e11e5
[20:06] <kusanagi_> ab2qik, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&hs=dUK&ei=DAreSsyADYaG4QbiwtgN&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&ved=0CAYQBSgA&q=record+shoutcast+ubuntu&spell=1
[20:06] <ab2qik> ZykoticK9: I think i need to experiment with different recorders.
[20:06] <WanHouse> Kirsch: Upgrade if you can.
[20:06] <Kirsch> WanHouse: its a VPS, i don't think that would be wise...
[20:06] <WanHouse> Kirsch: VPS...
[20:06] <llutz> ab2qik: streamtuner/streamripper
[20:06] <Gnea> Kirsch: if it's a vps, you should be able to clone it, upgrade and see what happens, and fall back to the original if need be
[20:06] <falstaff|h> stat_eno, what says dmesg | tail?
[20:07] <FCalderon> afk
[20:07] <ZykoticK9> stat_eno, you are trying to mount a cdrom/dvd or something?  can we see the command you are trying?
[20:07] <WanHouse> Kirsch: virtual private solution ? dunno...
[20:07] <]{LiK`Ev][L`> okay who thinks they can help with this dual monitor problem
[20:08] <Gnea> !ask | ]{LiK`Ev][L`
[20:08] <nyash> Hello. How to change the localhostname.domainname.xxx   name of my ubuntu computer? I had already changed the localhost name in /etc/hostname, but I would like to change the domainname. How to do it?
[20:08] <WanHouse> ]{LiK`Ev][L`: Learn about the Xorg server. We are not your eyes.
[20:08] <falstaff|h> nyash, you have to alter /etc/hosts
[20:09] <nyash> falstaff|h: thx, will take a look
[20:09] <stat_eno> falstaff|h, http://pastebin.com/md35d7e4
[20:09] <adam> dammit, my Kirsch user got stuck in IRC
[20:09] <zak_>  what command shall i use to see the usb disks plugged?
[20:09] <trism> Kirsch: you should need to add a script to /etc/udev/rules.d with the line KERNEL=="null" MODE="0666"
[20:09] <craigbass1976> I'm looking to get a dell 5330dn laser working with Ubuntu.  Anyone had any luck?
[20:10] <trism> Kirsch: or fix it if it is already there with 0600
[20:10] <Guest72722> trism: its already there
[20:10] <craigbass1976> zak_, lsusb works I think
[20:10] <Guest72722> <--- is now Kirsch
[20:11] <trism> Guest72722: already there with 0600 or 0666
[20:11] <]{LiK`Ev][L`> well that wasn't a very polite answer wanhouse
[20:11] <Guest72722> trism: 0666
[20:11] <Guest72722> KERNEL=="null",MODE="0666"
[20:11] <stat_eno> ZykoticK9, http://pastebin.com/m65c149fd
[20:12] <WanHouse> ]{LiK`Ev][L`: Only you can decide what you see from the output Xorg produces, right ? And yes, its the best we can do for you.
[20:12] <Gnea> ]{LiK`Ev][L`: if you're unwilling to tell us your problem, we don't have to be willing to help you solve it.
[20:12] <frandieguez> #ubuntu-motu
[20:12] <]{LiK`Ev][L`> I'll get back to you on that trying to suppress these join leave notifications first
[20:12] <DigitalKiwi> most annoying name ever.
[20:13] <ja> !help
[20:13] <falstaff|h> stat_eno, what are you trying to mount? is this a cd/dvd? Is it burned cd?
[20:13] <WanHouse> DigitalKiwi: I concur to some extent.
[20:13] <ZykoticK9> stat_eno, just try "sudo mount /dev/scd0 /mnt" and see if that works
[20:13] <craigbass1976> Also, has anyone ever got the faxes out of a brother MFC 3840 and into a document?  We're out of ink, but I know they're cached in the printer somewhere..
[20:13] <DigitalKiwi> impressed the bot works with it
[20:13] <erUSUL> !hostname | nyash
[20:14] <ianderson> 456789
[20:14] <ianderson> 0123456789
[20:14] <ianderson> 1023456789
[20:14] <crohakon> Anyone know where I can find a guide that explains what each directory is used for?
[20:15] <erUSUL> !fhs | crohakon
[20:15] <crohakon> Thanks
[20:15] <Sandy80d> FCalderon:I pressed ctrl-alt-f1, and got command line, typed "nautilus" and received following error: "could not parse arguements, cannot open display"
[20:15] <WanHouse> I sence someone is trying to setup a flood.
[20:16] <Kuifje111> thats why we have floodbot3, dont we?
[20:16] <fearful> I'm having problems with skype the soud in and out used to work i was able to make calls and video calls all of the sudden it doesn't work, I've tried all the settings and none work anymore any idea why?
[20:16] <ZykoticK9> Sandy80d, you actually can't start gui apps from text consoles i'm affraid - it won't work...
[20:16] <WanHouse> Kuifje111: Yeah, but nothing is perfect ;)
[20:17] <trism> Kirsch: do you have any udev links in /etc/rc2.d?
[20:17] <stat_eno> falstaff|h, is an empty dvd-rw
[20:17] <Sandy80d> ZykoticK9: OK, I am trying to fix a broken gui (gnome) i was instructed to drop to command prompt and try opening nautilus
[20:17] <joakimk> quit/
[20:17] <ZykoticK9> stat_eno, you can't mount an empty dvdrw - you can only mount file systems
[20:18] <Kirsch> ok now that i have my name back
[20:18] <fearful> Skype starts the call rings and then says problem with audio playback any ideas?
[20:18] <ZykoticK9> Sandy80d, i know - i did see that suggested too you and knew it wouldn't work :(  i don't know how to fix you gui problem - but from command line try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" then try going to ctrl+alt+f7 and see if there is a login window.  best of luck.
[20:18] <WanHouse> Sandy80d: Update the dist first.
[20:18] <stat_eno> and how can i do it?
[20:19] <Kirsch> i'm going to ask my question again in #ubuntu-server
[20:19] <dmpjk> stupid qeustion, but i need to get this straight. Im running a free antivirus program , Moonsecure. What does "disinfect file" mean? Does it mean that i am protecting my system by doing so, or does it mean that i am telling the AV that the file in qeustion is not a virus, and should be allowed.
[20:19] <trism> Kirsch: I found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/69516, which seems to have the same problem, which seems to stem from multiple links to udev on boot, they deleted the extra one and were getting the correct permissions on /dev/null
[20:19] <azlon> has anybody setup a sms server using a 3g modem?
[20:19] <stat_eno> ZykoticK9, and how can i do it?
[20:19] <Kirsch> ok hang on
[20:19] <trism> Kirsch: might be a better idea, good luck
[20:19] <ZykoticK9> stat_eno, do what?  mount an empty dvd - it's impossible, write something to it first :)
[20:20] <stat_eno> ZykoticK9, k3b don't do it
[20:20] <stat_eno> ZykoticK9, brasero don't do it
[20:20] <Kirsch> trism: for some reason, deleting that file seems weird no?
[20:20] <daevski> ftpd question: my newly created ftp server is able to retrieve LIST (directory) info when on port 21, but not on a custom port. Any thoughts on why?
[20:20] <Kirsch> trism: i don't even have that file
[20:20] <ZykoticK9> stat_eno, i'm sorry man i haven't been following you problem, just saw you say empty dvd - and you can't mount those.  good luck man.
[20:21] <edem> hello everybody.Where can i find any information on how to use image background in text console as in Mandriva and Zenwalk? Thanks in advance.
[20:21] <trism> Kirsch: alright, well, I'm out of ideas
[20:21] <stat_eno> ZykoticK9, k3b doesn't burn it, why?
[20:22] <fearful> anyone help with skype audio playback problem, it used to work fine now it doesn't
[20:22] <ZykoticK9> stat_eno, ? i have no idea man...
[20:22] <Sandy80d> ZykoticK9, started GDM [OK] but ctrl-alt-f7 takes me to a blank screen, any ideas?
[20:23] <WanHouse> stat_eno: Buy a new burner. Tis broken perhaps.
[20:23] <Kirsch> trism: lol thx, i appreciate the help, gonna ask server folks
[20:23] <ZykoticK9> Sandy80d, test ctrl-alt-f8 (f9 and f10) check them all
[20:23] <manish> stat_eno: k3b version?
[20:24] <stat_eno> ZykoticK9, k3b says "please insert an empty dvd medium"; brasero reports many errors and stops
[20:24] <stat_eno> manish, 1.0.5
[20:24] <ZykoticK9> stat_eno, perhaps the disc you are trying has already had something written on it -- try a new disc
[20:25] <manish> stat_eno: you are writting is flooded with etra data
[20:25] <Kingsy102> can someone tell me some good easy to use burning software for ubuntu? something similar to nero would be nice :)
[20:25] <Sandy80d> ZykoticK9, try all f-keys, nothing happened
[20:25] <Sandy80d> *tried
[20:25] <ZykoticK9> Kingsy102, k3b is probably the closes (requires a lot of the kde library but it might be worth it)
[20:25] <manish> stat_eno: what is the size of the DVD?
[20:26] <ZykoticK9> Sandy80d, what gfx card?
[20:26] <stat_eno> ZykoticK9, just buyed (1,70€) :P
[20:26] <voraistos> Hi, do you know if in 9.10 the intel graphics driver will work decently ?
[20:26] <stat_eno> manish, no
[20:26] <Kingsy102> ZykoticK9 - anything that just installs nice and easy from the repos?
[20:26] <Pici> voraistos : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[20:26] <Kirsch> trism: boo, not getting responses in #ubuntu-server
[20:26] <stat_eno> manish, 4,7Gb
[20:26] <Sandy80d> built in intel i believe (netbook intel atom)
[20:26] <voraistos> Pici cheers
[20:26] <Kingsy102> i.e I am looking to just install and burn something now (DVD) very quickly
[20:26] <ZykoticK9> voraistos, 9.10 does fix some intel bugs -- runs ok on my eee 701
[20:26] <manish> stat_eno: and what is the size you are writting?
[20:27] <Sandy80d> ZykoticK9, >	built in intel i believe (netbook intel atom)	
[20:27] <dmpjk> fearful: skype has to do with the switch to pulseaudio i think
[20:27] <ZykoticK9> Kingsy102, k3b is in the repos...  it's what i use for burning - don't really know any good alternatives
[20:27] <stat_eno> manish, 4,5Gb and i tried to burn 4Gb too
[20:27] <trism> Kirsch: *shrugs*, you could always just add a chmod to rc.local, not exactly the nicest solution though
[20:28] <Kirsch> trism: thats what i'm going to do for now, i just wanted to poke around here to see if i can find out why it happened
[20:28] <manish> stat_eno: try burning lower than 3.6 G
[20:28] <ZykoticK9> Sandy80d, try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" then try "startx" in a console <- just to see what happens
[20:28] <fearful> dmpjk, yea thank you very much pulse worked beautifuly
[20:28] <wilecoyte78> !help
[20:28] <dmpjk> fearful: in the future i will not upgrade as fast, i will use qemu or virtualbox to test the latest ubuntu
[20:28] <trism> Kirsch: someone else was having the same problem the other day with a VPS, wonder if it is the same host
[20:28] <manish> stat_eno: just remove 400MB data and see
[20:28] <Kingsy102> ZykoticK9 - thanks
[20:28] <stat_eno> manish, ok..
[20:28] <Panzer> ok trying to install the driver for the RTL8101E getting r8101.ko no such file error
[20:28] <Kirsch> trism: its VPSLink
[20:28] <manish> stat_eno: the k3b should enable the disk
[20:29] <Panzer> 9.04
[20:29] <fearful> dmpjk, well at first it worked fine with hdw intel (0) settings, just all of the sudden didnt work, changed all to pulse and now it works fine
[20:29] <trism> Kirsch: do they have prebuilt images or do you install it yourself? you might want to contact your provider about it if they are prebuilt
[20:30] <dmpjk> fearful: should you try wine and skype for windows there is the problem of wine not being able to emulate alsa very good
[20:30] <fearful> dmpjk, thanks
[20:30] <erUSUL> Panzer: those cards use r8169 afaik
[20:30] <dmpjk> fearful: i didnt give any help..
[20:30] <stat_eno> see you later
[20:30] <Kirsch> trism: they do and one of the things i recently changed was the path to the repos, it referenced a local VPSLink repository
[20:30] <Kirsch> trism: i wonder if they tamper with packages, but everything else is perfect, except this.
[20:30] <Panzer> erUSUL: all the forums say r8169 is not the right driver for the card.  r8168 is the correct stuff.
[20:31] <trism> Kirsch: that could be the case, i would email support about it
[20:31] <fearful> dmpjk, well i just switched all of the to pulse because you said skype had changed to pulse
[20:31] <Kirsch> trism: they don't have suppport and they'll tell me to change it back, i honestly don't want to cause theyremove a lot of packages i needed, like perlmagick
[20:31] <budobull> Sometimes when I watch eg. youtube videos. I only get sound in one of my speakers (just two stereo speakers). Using soundblaster audigy and ALSA (i think atleast...). Is this a common problem amongst newbies? Google didn't help me much.
[20:32] <dmpjk> fearful: ok, i tried to use skype at the beginning of oct, it didnt go well at all
[20:32] <trism> Kirsch: ahh
[20:32] <erUSUL> Panzer: some people that have problems with 8169 try with the realtek suplied (does not come with ubuntu) 8168. but anyway r8101.ko does not exist at all
[20:32] <dmpjk> fearful: maybe skype has a new update or version
[20:33] <fearful> dmpjk,  I've had the same for a quiet a while what was wierd is that it worked one way and now the other but I guess its just weird like that
[20:33] <dmpjk> fearful: ok cu
[20:34] <Kirsch> trism: when does rc.local load?
[20:34] <Sandy80d> ZykoticK9, tried "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" then "startx" in a console, get a blank screen, this time without even the mouse pointer
[20:34] <trism> Kirsch: loads last I believe
[20:34] <Kirsch> only once?
[20:34] <Kirsch> trism: i use simplifymedia, dunno if u know what it is
[20:35] <Kirsch> trism:  and i wanan start that service at boot also, but it doesn't have an init script, i just need to run a command, can i put it in this file too?
[20:35] <Sandy80d> Should i try to reset my GDM settings somehow, if so how?!
[20:35] <lstarnes> Kirsch: only once, immediately after the remaining init scripts
[20:35] <Kirsch> lstarnes: ok great, then that should be good then, this is for a different box tho
[20:35] <lstarnes> Kirsch: if it's something that doesn't run as root, you may want to put it in a crontab entry with a time of @reboot
[20:36] <Sandy80d> anyone able to help me with a broken GDM?
[20:37] <ZykoticK9> Sandy80d, is you system up to date?  "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"  I'm sorry I don't have any other ideas right now.  You really need to get some sort of Xorg logs (not sure which one) it give the channel more of a hint as to what's wrong.  Best of luck to ya.
[20:37] <monster> Sandy80d: whats wrong with xorg?
[20:38] <Kirsch> lstarnes: it actually needs to run as root ,s othats ok, but the crontab may be something that would work better
[20:38] <Kirsch> lstarnes: i didn't know u could do @reboot in crontab
[20:38] <Sandy80d> monster: when trying to start gnome i just get blank screen with mouse pointer
[20:38] <monster> from boot?
[20:39] <Sandy80d> yes
[20:39] <monster> disable apci
[20:39] <Sandy80d> where do i do that?
[20:39] <edem> +1
[20:39] <monster> are you using a livecd?
[20:39] <edem> +i
[20:39] <Sandy80d> i am writing from a different computer
[20:39] <Kirsch> lstarnes: i did a quick google search, is it just @reboot <my command> casue i see al ot of stuff where people put @reboot user command
[20:40] <Travis-42> How would I use "cp" to make a copy of all of the files in the current directory and append ".bak"?
[20:40] <wilecoyte78> !help
[20:40] <lstarnes> wilecoyte78: that doesn't work
[20:40] <WanHouse> lstarnes: "time of @reboot" ?
[20:40] <monster> Sandy80d: are you trying to run the LIVECD that fails to load xwindows?
[20:40] <lstarnes> WanHouse: just ask your question
[20:40] <martianlobster> how do I do a screendump in ubuntu?
[20:40] <monster> or is it a full install that never work?
[20:40] <lstarnes> WanHouse: sorry, that was for wilecoyte78
[20:40] <monster> did it work at one point?
[20:40] <lstarnes> WanHouse: I was referring to using @reboot as the time in crontab
[20:40] <Sandy80d> no i can boot livecd ok, but my ubuntu install will not boot from HDD
[20:40] <lstarnes> Kirsch: it's @reboot command
[20:41] <WanHouse> lstarnes: Im glad it was.
[20:41] <ZykoticK9> Travis-42, "for file in * ; do cp $file $file.bak ; done" but that won't work for files with spaces...
[20:41] <Travis-42> ZykoticK9: ah, I didn't think of doing something like that, thanks
[20:41] <lstarnes> ZykoticK9: for file in *; do cp "$file" "$file.bak"; done
[20:41] <WanHouse> lstarnes: This interrests me. You can write "@reboot" to have cron run the command at shutdown/reboot ?
[20:42] <Kirsch> lstarnes: ok cool
[20:42] <lstarnes> WanHouse: no
[20:42] <Panzer> erUSUL: getting pretty much the same error with r8168  r8168.ko does not exist
[20:42] <lstarnes> WanHouse: @reboot runs when cron starts when the system starts
[20:42] <Sandy80d> monster: any ideas?
[20:42] <monster> Sandy80d: read this
[20:42] <monster> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=935461
[20:42] <WanHouse> lstarnes: Ah, theres no @shutdown ?
[20:42] <lstarnes> WanHouse: no
[20:42] <monster> once it hits the grub menu at boot
[20:42] <monster> hit E
[20:42] <lstarnes> WanHouse: see man 5 crontab
[20:42] <monster> to edit it
[20:42] <erUSUL> Panzer: how you try to load the module ? is « sudo modprobe r8169 »
[20:42] <Hillshum> Keyserver.ubuntu.com seems to be down
[20:42] <monster> try that
[20:43] <WanHouse> lstarnes: I could use that. It would be easy to shedule backups etc with that.
[20:43] <Nogga> hello everyone
[20:43] <guntbert> !hi | Nogga
[20:43] <Nogga> I think I completely messed up my wifi by trying to set it to master mode :(
[20:43] <Panzer> erUSUL: yea that works.  it will load the r8169 module.  But the card is a r8101E and does not work on the r8169 module
[20:44] <Nogga> I got a Atheros 242x card running (in my Acer Revo Atom computer...)
[20:45] <erUSUL> Panzer: ok this is what it says in the driver r8169.c: RealTek 8169/8168/8101 ethernet driver.
[20:45] <erUSUL> Panzer: so those chips are supported by this driver...
[20:45] <erUSUL> Panzer: or at least should
[20:45] <M-a-r-k> You've broken flash >:o
[20:45] <Sandy80d> monster: hitting E at grub loading screen doesnt do anything
[20:46] <wilecoyte78> I am running ubuntu jaunty 9.04 kernel 2.6.28-15-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 9 10:49:34 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9460 I have dual heads on I am using an ati hd 4890 graphics card I set everything up properly but it gives me two X windows one can have the compiz cube but the other does not. What I want is to have one big desktop.
[20:46] <Sandy80d> do you mean Esc
[20:46] <monster> Sandy80d: it should tell you to hit something to edit it
[20:46] <monster> try again
[20:46] <monster> you can hit pause on the keyboard to read it
[20:46] <Panzer> erUSUL: I know it SHOULD work.  But it does not.
[20:47] <Panzer> see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4210510#post4210510 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843398
[20:47] <Hillshum> Is anyone else having issues with keyserver.ubuntu.com ?
[20:47] <guntbert> Hillshum: you can use nearly every other gpg keyserver as well
[20:48] <Sandy80d> monster: which line do i want to edit...uuid, kernel, initrd or quiet?
[20:48] <monster> let me check mine hold
[20:49] <monster> Sandy80d: at the end of the kernel line
[20:50] <monster> make sure its the default one
[20:50] <Sandy80d> ok thx
[20:50] <monster> top one should be default
[20:51] <giorgos> eeeeeeeeeeee
[20:51] <Kirsch> lstarnes: i rebooted my server and i put @reboot <command> and it didn't do it
[20:52] <Sandy80d> monster: I turned acpi off, still the same
[20:52] <craigbass1976> I'm looking to get a dell 5330dn laser working with Ubuntu, over a network.  Anyone had any luck?
[20:53] <Icychill> can anyone help me im trying to bridge my wifi connection to my xbox360?
[20:53] <monster> Sandy80d: once you get to the screen with just the mouse
[20:53] <monster> if you hit num lock
[20:53] <monster> does the light go on and off
[20:53] <monster> when you hit it a couple times
[20:53] <giorgos> vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
[20:53] <guntbert> giorgos:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:53] <Sandy80d> i'll try...
[20:54] <monster> ok
[20:54] <Sandy80d> his v key is stuck:)
[20:55] <Sandy80d> monster: yeah numloack light works
[20:55] <ccb0x45>  hey... this probably isnt the right place to ask but I was wondering if anyone pretty familiar with Ldap could help me understand something...
[20:55] <monster> Sandy80d: ok do this alt+ctl+f1
[20:55] <monster> that should give you a console screen
[20:55] <Sandy80d> done
[20:55] <monster> login
[20:55] <Sandy80d> yup
[20:55] <nsgn> at the bash shell i'm trying to run 7zip as my local user (not root), but save to a folder in the root of the drive. the folder is owned by this local user with read/write permissions. 7zip says "cannot open file backup.7z.temp when i run it. wtheck gives?
[20:55] <ccb0x45> I am trying to set up the directory server in a way so I assign a temporary password and force the user to change their password at first log in, and using samba share for them to log into, but on windows for some reason it just says their password is wrong instead of opening a dialogue to change it
[20:55] <monster> cd /var/logs/
[20:55] <monster> sorry
[20:56] <monster> /var/log/
[20:56] <ccb0x45> where as if I take off the change password at first log in, they log in fine with the same password, so I know that s the problem
[20:56] <guntbert> ccb0x45: #openldap    might be better suited
[20:56] <stefano_> #chiarvalle
[20:56] <monster> Xorg.0.log is the file you want to look in
[20:56] <Sandy80d> i'm there
[20:56] <Sandy80d> ...
[20:56] <jacquesdupontd> hey everybody
[20:56] <jacquesdupontd> i have a simple question
[20:56] <monster> pico Xorg.0.log
[20:57] <hsarci> when i have no network applications open system monitor still reports that im sending/recieving about 100-200 byte/s on average....why is that????
[20:57] <ccb0x45> wow hanks guntbert
[20:57] <ccb0x45> didnt know there was that chat
[20:57] <jacquesdupontd> why do pulse still appears in ubuntu audio settings menu ? i did sudo apt-get --purge remove pulse*
[20:57] <guntbert> ccb0x45: you are welcome :-)
[20:57] <monster> hmm i have an idea
[20:57] <wilecoyte78> I am running ubuntu jaunty 9.04 kernel 2.6.28-15-generic #52-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 9 10:49:34 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9460 I have dual heads on I am using an ati hd 4890 graphics card I set everything up properly but it gives me two X windows one can have the compiz cube but the other does not. What I want is to have one big desktop.
[20:58] <Sandy80d> i got the xorg log opened not sure what i'm looking for tho
[20:58] <monster> yeah i figured
[20:58] <monster> close out
[20:58] <monster> ctrl+x
[20:58] <monster> run this
[20:58] <monster> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:58] <monster> lets see if that helps
[20:58] <MrSchmo> hey how do you guy update our linux when there is a new version out. do you do the general let synaptic manager do the upgrade or you do a fresh installation everytime?
[20:59] <Sandy80d> ...
[20:59] <SikEnCide> ive got server 9.04 ... everytime i change my /etc/motd file it works, untill i rebot then it gets over written could i have some help please
[21:00] <trism> MrSchmo: I usually upgrade, but I'm going to do a fresh install for karmic just because I haven't in several releases
[21:00] <Pici> SikEnCide: see the motd.tail manpage to see what the server does to create the manpage.
[21:00] <monster> SikEnCide: from /etc/ , ls -l |grep motd
[21:00] <monster> to see were motd is linked too
[21:00] <monster> and edit that file
[21:00] <WanHouse> trism: Upgrade dood, tis sexxi :)
[21:01] <SikEnCide> monster are you saying that my motd file is linked to something else ?
[21:01] <skylar_> Hey, Stupid question how can I play online videos ( youtube ect)
[21:01] <monster> SikEnCide: yes
[21:01] <davidm2010> Hi, how do you reinstall apache if you used lamp?
[21:02] <monster> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root       13 2009-09-14 15:15 motd -> /var/run/motd
[21:02] <SikEnCide> yeah monster just saw that
[21:02] <SikEnCide> i also get update-motd.d
[21:02] <monster> you can also just rm motd
[21:03] <monster> and then edit it local to /etc/
[21:03] <WanHouse> monster: rm -f indicates a file, hence a better solution.
[21:03] <SikEnCide> delete teh one in /var ?
[21:03] <MrSchmo> back when i was using ubuntu 7.xx the upgrade always seem to have some bugs and some program not working. with fresh installation, it clear all of that, but its a plain to reinstallation and reconfigure you setting all the time. are grades still like that? is there any other better way to do this?
[21:03] <tbone> I have a little situation that probably is pretty easy to fix, but i haven't done it yet.  I am using karmic and am using a ppa anyway it installs updated dependency nvida 1.95 something, instead of the karmic default.  Now i goto install myth and it wont install unmet dependencies.  I tried to force mythtv-frontend but that don't work.  Suggestions
[21:04] <Pici> tbone : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[21:04] <monster> SikEnCide: delete the link in /etc/
[21:04] <monster> then just create motd and edit it
[21:04] <monster> in /etc/
[21:04] <bwklein> I am having a regex problem...  I only want to select commas in a file where there is not a space after the comma.  Suggestions?
[21:04] <monster> WanHouse: true sry
[21:05] <SikEnCide> how do i delete the link ?
[21:05] <WanHouse> monster: Np, the effect could have been the removal of an empty directory so its not evil.
[21:05] <SikEnCide> rm  "link"
[21:05] <dx00> Hello! I have just installed ubuntu 9.10 and it won´t install .deb packages... this is what I get http://img21.imageshack.us/i/skrmbildgdebigtk.png/ (not sure what it means in english) is says somethin like: dpkg could not find file identification options for...
[21:05] <WanHouse> monster: A directory with files in it could not have been removed that way.
[21:06] <trism> bwklein: match 1 comma and 1 [^ ] ?
[21:06] <monster> SikEnCide: rm -f /etc/motd
[21:06] <monster> pico /etc/motd
[21:06] <monster> save file
[21:06] <monster> done
[21:07] <bwklein> trism: I only want to match commas that are not followed by a space character.
[21:07] <Sandy80d> monster: tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, didnt seem to help
[21:07] <trism> bwklein: that's what I said ,[^ ]
[21:07] <bwklein> ok sec...
[21:07] <skylar_> hey I was hoping someone would be able to tell me what i need to do in order to be able to play online videos  ( youtube etc)
[21:07] <Flannel> !flash | skylar_
[21:08] <trism> bwklein: although if you're trying to insert spaces, you may need to group the second character so you can insert it in the output
[21:08] <SikEnCide> oh thnx monster the link is gone
[21:08] <monster> Sandy80d: Sorry there not much i can do without looking at the Xorg.0.log
[21:08] <SikEnCide> lets ee if it sticks on a reboot
[21:09] <monster> did you recreate it?
[21:09] <bwklein> trism: Yes, I see that you are correct...  How do I do that?
[21:09] <skylar_> Flannel, If that involves installing adobe flash from the add/remove or synaptic manager it won't let me.
[21:09] <Sandy80d> i should be able to boot into livecd and look at the log?
[21:09] <SikEnCide> yeah i remade it
[21:09] <ccmi> after trying to configure a printer on a computer cant mount pendrives in it
[21:09] <bwklein> With...  ,([^ ])  ?
[21:09] <ccmi> [pendrive -> usb flash memory]
[21:09] <Flannel> skylar_: It does involve installing flash (although I believe gnash will work for youtube now too).  Why won't it let you?
[21:09] <ccmi> now im connected to that computer with a usb flash plugged in
[21:09] <ccmi> lsusb doesnt show the pendrive
[21:09] <SikEnCide> ok it stuck thnx monster
[21:09] <ccmi> on the morning this was working fine
[21:10] <FloodBot3> ccmi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:10] <bwklein> You are right, I want to insert a space after every comma that does not have on already following it.
[21:10] <skylar_> Apparently because my computer type.
[21:10] <skylar_>  amd64
[21:10] <trism> bwklein: I think it depends on what you're using, in sed the match would be like ,([^ ]) and you would refer to it as \1 (or \2 for the second group, \3 etc)
[21:10] <ccmi> FloodBot1, fu.
[21:10] <Flannel> ccmi: Please don't be rude
[21:10] <monster> np SikEnCide
[21:11] <bwklein> I am using TextMate on OS X.  The Find and Replace feature allows regex
[21:11] <shentino> How do I upgrade to a new ubuntu release from the command line?
[21:11] <Jennifer_> hello again....well my new driver seems to be working so far....i forgot to reboot last time
[21:11] <SikEnCide> are there any special settings i need ot make /etc/ssh/ssh_config to make sure i can get to it from outside my network.  I just reinstalled the box and forget is i made any changes or not
[21:11] <shentino> I'd do it with the gui but my video card's a bit touchy
[21:11] <Jennifer_> erUSUL...are you here?
[21:11] <Flannel> shentino: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes will link to whichever specific upgrade you're doing
[21:11] <J11> Hi, I'm resizing my partitions with the live cd. I already did ntfsresize, so I could change it with fdisk. But that would leave free space before the extended partition. Does this partition have to be moved first or does recreating the partition(keeping the swap partion at the end on the same location) and resize2fs(after turning off journaling) move the inode table to the front? I used to have a good article on this but I can't find it anymore
[21:11] <monster> Sandy80d: kinda depends. youd have to mount the root volume to see if from the live cd
[21:11] <monster> otherwise you will be looking at the one from the livecd
[21:11] <Jennifer_> but now the streaming video is not fluid....must be because the 3d is not installed
[21:12] <bwklein> trism: I am using TextMate on OS X.  The Find and Replace feature allows regex.
[21:12] <trism> bwklein: yeah I have no idea how to do it in textmate
[21:12] <monster> Jennifer_: do you have an nvidia card?
[21:12] <Flannel> bwklein: This is an Ubuntu support channel, you'd be better off finding an appropriate channel for your question
[21:12] <jimmy51_> can parted resize an ext3 partition without causing harm?
[21:12] <trism> bwklein: the sed command would be sed -e "s/,\([^ ]\)/, \1/g" file_name.txt
[21:12] <dx00> Hello! I have just installed ubuntu 9.10 and it won´t install .deb packages... this is what I get http://img21.imageshack.us/i/skrmbildgdebigtk.png/ (not sure what it means in english) is says somethin like: dpkg could not find file identification options for... can this error be fixed or should I reinstall the OS
[21:12] <shentino> duh...thanks, should have RTFM :)
[21:13] <Flannel> dx00: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic support, thanks
[21:13] <dx00> ty
[21:13] <DareDevil0> es
[21:13] <dx00> #ubuntu+1
[21:13] <bwklein> Flannel: I know... I cannot connect to #regex and since Ubuntu is Linux and Awesome, I figured that someone here out of the 1500+ members would know regex.
[21:14] <Sandy80d> monster: but if i look in var/log/ on my HDD would it not be the right one?
[21:14] <Flannel> bwklein: Yes, we do.  Your issue isn't a regexp one, since the regexp we gave you apparently doesn't work.  Also, *especially* because this is a large channel you shouldn't stray offtopic.
[21:14] <nyash> Is someone familiar with Postfix? I am succesfully sending emails, but I would like to create 2-3 user mailboxes which I could use to store emails, and then fetch them via Mozilla Thunderbird etc. Unfortunately i got not idea where to start.
[21:15] <bwklein> Thanks trism, I am going to look at the manuals and understand grouping better.  Thank you.
[21:15] <guntbert> !ot | nyash
[21:15] <nyash> =(
[21:15] <nyash> okay, went a bit ot:p
[21:15] <dermot> I have downloaded all of the needed plugins for fire fox to play flash movies but for some reason it wont load the flash video. please help me
[21:15] <Flannel> nyash, guntbert: that's not offtopic
[21:16] <bwklein> Flannel: Actually it is a regex problem and trism was very helpful and pointed me in the right direction.  But, next time more on topic.
[21:16] <banished> Hi, has anybody managed to get a pinnacle pctv 7010ix working?
[21:16] <guntbert> nyash: how is the configuration of postfix ubuntu related?
[21:16] <Flannel> guntbert: Because postfix is in Ubuntu....
[21:16] <Flannel> guntbert: Don't be rude
[21:17] <bwklein> I will use #ubuntu-offtopic for other things next time.
[21:17] <Flannel> nyash: Are you needing three mailboxes for three users? or why do you think you need three mailboxes?
[21:17] <guntbert> Flannel: excuse me? where was I rude?
[21:18] <Sandy80d> monster: I pasted the log file to paste.ubuntu.com/297789/
[21:18] <AlexGE> Will Ubuntu or Kubuntu work with my system and wich version shoud i take (x86/x64)?
[21:18] <AlexGE> My sytem is:
[21:18] <AlexGE> MSI KA790 GX
[21:18] <AlexGE> Amd Phenom II X4 940
[21:18] <AlexGE> Ati Radeon 4850
[21:18] <AlexGE> 4GB DDr2-RAM OCZ Reaper Kit
[21:18] <FloodBot3> AlexGE: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:18] <nyash> Flannel: Uhm, perhaps I expressed it in a wrong way. So far I can send email from nickname@mydomain.com. I would like to receive, store and fetch emails for nickname@mydomain.com, so actually one mailbox would suffice
[21:18] <Flannel> !postfix | nyash
[21:19] <nyash> cool, ty
[21:19] <Flannel> nyash: postfix will get the mail onto your box, where are you using thunderbird?  You may need something like dovecot to talk to thunderbird once the mail's on your box
[21:20] <Sandy80d> anyone one else who can figure out why gnome isnt starintg feel free to look at my xorg log:)... http://paste.ubuntu.com/297789/
[21:20] <Euken> Witam
[21:20] <guntbert> !pl | Euken
[21:20] <Panzer> anyone have issues with RTL8101 on 9.04 or 9.10?
[21:21] <Euken> Hello
[21:21] <AlexGE> Pls help me http://paste.ubuntu.com/297792/
[21:21] <LordBurrito> G'day all.  Doing a console (tty) login to an Ubuntu 6.0.1 Server install and I'm missing the bottom two lines of the output.  Help?
[21:21] <Euken> Why we should talk here in English ?
[21:21] <lstarnes> Euken: this is an english-speaking channel
[21:22] <nyash> Flannel: I would like to postfix mailbox to be accessible from outside, via thunderbird, outlook etc. So far the only thing I had modified was the /etc/postfix/main.conf *or something similar in name* and added appropriate hostnames and domain names. Which in the end lets me send emails
[21:22] <Euken> But ur from Poland ?
[21:22] <nyash> the postfix*
[21:22] <lstarnes> Euken: #ubuntu-pl is polish
[21:22] <Euken> ok
[21:22] <nt4cats> Suppose I want to install a file /var/cache/foo/data-file (made up example) on my machine, and I know that this file is contained in an unknown .deb package in the ubuntu repositories.  How do I search the repositories to find the list of .deb packages that have this data file?  This is similar to how bash suggests missing packages to install for executables -- but I'm not looking for an executable here.
[21:22] <lstarnes> Sandy80d: you could try moving ~/.gnome2/ and ~/.gnome/ to another location
[21:22] <lstarnes> Sandy80d: or you could try removing
[21:23] <lstarnes> Sandy80d: also, you might need to do something with ~/.gnome2_private/ and ~/.gnome_private/
[21:24] <ab2qik> Hi,  trying to use streamripper to connect to a shoutcast stream and rip. Using Jaunty but no luck. Help!
[21:24] <nt4cats> If this were a Redhat/Fedora/Centos box I could type "yum provides */foo/data-file" and it would answer my question.  (I'm mentioning this not to start a flamewar but to further explain what I'm trying to do)
[21:24] <Sandy80d> ok, i dont appear to be able to access these folders from liveCD would i have to go to command priompt to remove these?
[21:24] <skylar_> wth some videos still won't plat
[21:24] <Flannel> nt4cats: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[21:24] <skylar_> * play
[21:24] <iraklio_cretee> hello
[21:24] <Flannel> nt4cats: I think that's what you're asking anyway
[21:24] <nt4cats> Flannel: I thought that only works if the file is already installed
[21:24] <Flannel> nt4cats: It does.
[21:25] <Flannel> nt4cats: apt-file is what you want for packages not installed
[21:25] <Sandy80d> Istarnes: ok, i dont appear to be able to access these folders from liveCD would i have to go to command priompt to remove these?
[21:25] <Flannel> nt4cats: (well, I think it works for installed packages too)
[21:25] <ab2qik> THis was typed at the terminal:  sudo  streamripper  http://www.shoutcast.com/shoutcast_player?stationid=59&Genre=Deep&ContentFlag=1&isCallInternal=&related=
[21:25] <nt4cats> Flannel: I don't have the file yet -- and I want to install it but don't know how to search for it.  I'll give apt-file a try, thanks.
[21:25] <Flannel> nyash: You need to have an IMAP/POP server on the box to serve the mail to the clients.  Dovecot is one of them
[21:26] <Flannel> !dovecot | nyash
[21:26] <lstarnes> Sandy80d: you could mount your existing installation to a temporary directory in the live cd then look in your home directory there
[21:26] <sven_oostenbrink> Question, I need information on a 10Gbit network card that also supports iSCSI.. Could I use such a card for bot iSCSI and normal traffic, or would that require an extra, other, network card?
[21:26] <nt4cats> Flannel: ... and I'm not mentioning the specific file here because I am more interested in learning to fish than I am in having you catch a fish for me ;)
[21:26] <kyon-MTfr> Good evening, I have a silly problem with a bash script I wrote... can I get some help, please ?
[21:26] <kyon-MTfr> that script is supposed to copy a file to a destination with another file name ; the displayed cp command works when I type it separately, but fails in the script
[21:26] <nyash> Flannel: Should postfix need additional configuration, or will everything needed be handled by dovecot, including further configuration if necessary?
[21:27] <guntbert> kyon-MTfr: there is a channel #bash :)
[21:27] <Flannel> nt4cats: If it's just a rare thing, you can also use packages.ubuntu.com, which has a second textbox for looking for files in packages (basically an online apt-file) since I believe apt-file carries a significant chunk of data with it (all the files in all the packages)
[21:27] <kyon-MTfr> oh. thanks, then.
[21:27] <Billiard> kyon-MTfr: you can pm me about it if you want
[21:27] <nt4cats> Flannel: outstanding!  thanks again
[21:27] <safe> I'm not able to request a key from keyserver.ubuntu.com, it just times out.
[21:27] <safe> However, I can ping the server.
[21:27] <Flannel> nyash: If postfix lets you recieve email to your server and send email out of it, then yeah, that's fully configured.  Then for dovecot you just point it to whereever your mail is hiding
[21:27] <skylar_> assuming i can install FF 3.5 would it be  sudo apt-get update     sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[21:27] <ab2qik> any help with streamripper?
[21:28] <nyash> Flannel: Ok, great thanks!
[21:28] <Flannel> skylar_: Depends.  What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[21:28] <wawer> #ubuntu-pl
[21:28] <guntbert> safe:  you can use nearly every other gpg keyserver as well
[21:28] <skylar_> newest
[21:28] <skylar_>  9.04 I think
[21:28] <skylar_> Jaunty Jackalope.
[21:28] <Flannel> skylar_: then yeah, just install firefox-3.5
[21:29] <safe> Is there some other way to get a "key"?
[21:29] <rsk> safe: it's laggy sometimes, try again
[21:30] <zorael> Can't you add to the packages a launchpad bug affects without confirming that it's been registered upstream?
[21:30] <ab2qik> is there a way to get streamripper and kstreamer working?
[21:30] <safe> guntbert: Which one would that be? I know of none.
[21:30] <guntbert> safe: try http://pgp.mit.edu/
[21:30] <Flannel> zorael: You'd have a better chance of getting answered in #ubuntu-bugs
[21:30] <zorael> Flannel: ah, thanks
[21:32] <skylar_> Flannel: says the installation is done however still running version 3.0 after FF has restarted.
[21:32] <cm__> list
[21:32] <sun`> trying to install Ubuntu 9.10 beta, using a livecd.
[21:32] <sun`> it gives Input/Output error.
[21:32] <trism> skylar_: firefox-3.5 will be listed as Shiretoko on the menu for jaunty
[21:33] <guntbert> !9.10 | sun`
[21:33] <skylar_> trism: thx
[21:33] <sun`> guntbert, but now Im facing the same problem with 9.04.
[21:34] <sun`> I have installed it on another system with same config, and it installed fine.
[21:34] <IspaniKa> buonasera
[21:35] <diogo_79> hi
[21:35] <diogo_79> how can i make a program run with my username
[21:35] <diogo_79> i have install a program in the opt/ folder
[21:35] <diogo_79> the root is the owner and the grup
[21:36] <diogo_79> i have modified the sudores file
[21:36] <mario-prkos> I dont have audio card detected on my hp pavilion on karmic beta
[21:36] <diogo_79> but it gives permission denied when i try to execute the program
[21:36] <kisuke> diogo_79: at a terminal "su (username) command"
[21:36] <lstarnes> kisuke, diogo_79: sudo is not necessary for this
[21:37] <lstarnes> diogo_79: you may need to use sudo chmod og+x filename  on each executable file for the program
[21:37] <lstarnes> diogo_79: that should give regular users permission to run it without needing any other priviliges
[21:37] <kisuke> lstarnes: as i recall su is switch user sudo is super user do,
[21:37] <trism> kisuke: ubuntu doesn't have su setup by default
[21:38] <ax> i'm tring to get a unionfs mount working, i have the kernel module loaded, and i'm doing this [as root]:  mount -t unionfs -o dirs=/media/external/alex/music-backup/=ro:/media/external/share-audio/=rw unionfs /media/external/share/audio
[21:38] <lstarnes> kisuke: I know
[21:38] <ax> any ideas what is up?
[21:38] <lstarnes> kisuke: but I think his problem needs a different solution
[21:38]  * kisuke facepalm
[21:39] <ax> i get mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on unionfs .. ..
[21:39] <sblunix> Hi all
[21:39] <sblunix> :)
[21:40] <mwojciec> hello for everyone! :)
[21:40] <Koosti> heyo
[21:40] <stat_eno> hi all
[21:41] <switchgirlEEE> night
[21:43] <stat_eno> i tried to burn my data DVD-RW but this is the debugging output of k3b http://pastebin.com/m3c7da2c8
[21:43] <jimmy51_> how does /usr/sbin/sendmail know what server to send to?
[21:44] <jimmy51_> i'm configuration an application that wants to know SendmailPath (it's pre-populated), EmailFromUsername, EmailAdminUsername, EmailUserDestDomain.  it seems like that's not enough for it to know what server to send to
[21:45] <Panzer> ok so how do I file a bug report.
[21:45] <Panzer> ?
[21:46] <sblunix> !bugreport | Panzer
[21:46] <sblunix> !bug | Panzer
[21:48] <Sandy80d> lstarnes, I tried removing ~/.gnome2/ and ~/.gnome/ etc but I am still anable to boot into gnome
[21:48] <sblunix> !search gnome
[21:48] <myn> myn
[21:48] <juli4n> hi everyone
[21:48] <myn> jnhdgyt5rtgvnbvjh
[21:49] <arikr> Hello everyone! Got this problem: Jaunty on laptop (HP 6735b with 140 Gb hd) root partition gets filled up after a while. Tried reinstalling, tripled size of root partition. Same problem...
[21:49] <Hillshum> arikr: I have the same laptop and never had the problem
[21:49] <lxdeuser777> im using lxde now
[21:50] <juli4n> can someone help me?? how can i to view the gkrellm on my all desktops??
[21:50] <arikr> My partition is now 10 Gb. What can be causing this? apt problem?
[21:51] <stat_eno> quit
[21:51] <erUSUL> arikr: probably something is spamming your logs until the disk fills up
[21:51] <erUSUL> arikr: find the root couse of that
[21:51] <Sandy80d> anyone able to help me fix my x-org, I am close to doing a fresh install, though i want to avoid this as i have spent a lot of time setting up this install!!!
[21:51] <Sandy80d> here's my x-org log http://paste.ubuntu.com/297789/
[21:51] <arikr> If something is spamming my logs, how do I deal with that?
[21:53] <juli4n> can someone help me?? how can i to view the gkrellm on my all desktops?
[21:54]  * raid1 elloz
[21:55] <arikr> Well, thanks erUSUL, I'll try to test your suggestion...
[21:56] <hey_joe> whenever i log into one of my servers, i get the motd and it states "8 packages can be updated. 13 updates are security updates." aside from the math simply not making since in those satements, performing "apt-get update/upgrade" shows nothing available...
[21:56] <hey_joe> whats with this?
[21:57] <gpled> anyone use puppet?
[21:57] <OerHeks> juli4n in the configuration > general> property's>  set sticky state
[21:57] <mario-prkos> i wrote aplay -l and i didn't get no sound card listed on my laptop hp pavilion dv2940 karmic
[21:57] <sebsebseb> hi
[21:58] <dragon> I need to setup one-way sync from M$ Exchange to iCal format readable by Evolution. Ideas?
[21:58] <carlee> hey_joe: are any of the upgrades held back?
[21:58] <da> how does one get this computer to play DVDS?
[21:58] <dragon> !dvd | da
[21:58] <juli4n> OerHeks thanks ;P
[21:58] <gpled> da: vlc
[21:59] <carlee> da: install libdvdcss2
[21:59] <craigbass1976> I'll announce this so that it's in the irc log file.  I can print to a dell 5330dn with a hp laserjet 4100 driver
[21:59] <da> okay thanks...
[21:59] <hsarci> does anyone know of an alternative to synergy that is also cross platform???
[21:59] <resno> how do you copy a directory through terminal?
[22:00] <craigbass1976> Maybe google will find that for folks.  See you all later.
[22:00] <kane77> hi, I'm looking for some note software.. I need something simple (like tomboy) but with more features (such as images and tags) do you know of anything like that?
[22:00] <trism> resno: cp -R dir_one dir_two
[22:00] <gpled> resno: cp source destination
[22:00] <carlee> hsarci: read http://ostatic.com/synergy/alternatives/1
[22:01] <resno> trism: it was the captial R i was missing!
[22:01] <carlee> hsarci: i recommend tightvnc
[22:01] <hey_joe> hsarci, synergy is the best i have ever used. confusing and a pain to setup sometimes, but worth the trouble
[22:01] <hey_joe> tightvnc isn't a synergy replacement
[22:04] <m0RrE> does anyone have problem with the newest nvidia drivers?
[22:04] <m0RrE> i get some random flickering when e.g. watching a fullhd movie
[22:05] <dragon> I need to setup one-way sync from M$ Exchange to iCal format readable by Evolution. Ideas?
[22:05] <kpettit> I'm trying to get used to this new Empathy program.  Is there anyway to make new text message popup in a window rather than those bubbles?
[22:05] <carlee> m0RrE: are you using the drivers that ubuntu provided, or using the drivers that you manually downloaded from the nvidia site?
[22:05] <Take0n> I have python 2.5 2.6 and 3.0 installed on my system.. how do I choose one to be default?
[22:06] <m0RrE> carlee: provided by ubuntu, and right now i'm using nvidia-glx-190 from launchpad ppas.
[22:06] <Take0n> I am trying to install python-wxgtk2.8 but get errors and I think it's because it's reading 3.0
[22:06] <Sandy80d> anyone able to help me fix my x-org, I am close to doing a fresh install, though i want to avoid this as i have spent a lot of time setting up this install!!!
[22:06] <Sandy80d> here's my x-org log http://paste.ubuntu.com/297789/
[22:08] <Rask> Hey guys.  As a matter of convention, where in the filesystem would one best put a shared directory that wasn't owned by a user, per se?  Like a library of music files?
[22:09] <carlee> mORrE: their beta drivers. thats why. revert back to nvidia-glx-180
[22:09] <m0RrE> carlee: is 185 also beta?
[22:09] <carlee> nope
[22:09] <m0RrE> because it's the same with them
[22:10] <SonorKaj> Rask,  //home/user/name of music folder
[22:10] <Guest67994> question: I use Ubuntu 9.10. When I try to boot up Ubuntu, it says something about forcing a check and it has tried X # of times to mount some drive. How do I resolve this issue?
[22:10] <carlee> what are you watching it on?
[22:10] <m0RrE> my 23" lcd display and 40" samsung tv
[22:10] <m0RrE> same issue with both screens
[22:10] <Rask> SonorKaj:  But what if it wasn't really meant to be owned by any specific user, is there a more neutral place to put it?
[22:11] <prince_jammys> Rask: perhaps /usr/local/share
[22:11] <m0RrE> some random "stripe" that kinda "rolls" from the top to bottom..
[22:11] <m0RrE> can't really describe it
[22:11] <Rask> prince_jammys: Isn't /usr supposed to be read only though?
[22:11] <haven489> does the torrent DLer in Ubuntu DL all and any type of torrent?
[22:11] <trism> Rask: or maybe create a separate partition for it, and mount it on /media
[22:12] <ageeb> how is everyone? I have a quick question about the final release of 9.10.  Are all the updates that are available for the beta after initial install going to be encorporated into the final release?
[22:12] <Rask> Hmm..
[22:13] <ageeb> or will they stay as 'updates'
[22:13] <carlee> mORrE: have you tried http://www.true-binary.com/?p=231 ? the instructions at the bottom of the page
[22:13] <Flaccology> question: I use Ubuntu 9.10. When I try to boot up Ubuntu, it says something about forcing a check and it has tried X # of times to mount some drive. How do I resolve this issue?
[22:13] <axisys> how do I let users edit files while git does the revision control in the back .. automated.. so users will only be prompted to add comment when they save and exit.. that's all .. a simple interface
[22:13] <Tm_T> da: welcome (:
[22:13] <m0RrE> carlee: this guy uses svideo, i'm using hdmi
[22:14] <da> I tried to instal what you said to no avail...
[22:14] <m0RrE> but the thing is that i get it on my default monitor aswell.. very annoying
[22:15] <erUSUL> axisys: maybe a wrapper script that wraps the call to the editor and does the commit when the editor exits
[22:15] <carlee> m0RrE: what happens when you disconnect the HDMI cable and restart?
[22:16] <carlee> does the flickker still exist?
[22:16] <m0RrE> the random stripes rolling on the monitors only appear when for example watching a movie
[22:16] <seyfarth> Hey guys, I'm looking for a program to block certain websites from being accessed at certain times of the day. i don't control the routers, so that's out. any ideas?
[22:16] <m0RrE> and the are completly random, sometimes it takes minutes before the appear
[22:16] <kisuke> i ran the ubuntu live CD and the atheros ar242x in my laptop ran the n i reboted to do some thing in windows, then rebooted to the live CD and my wireles adapter no longer workshelp please
[22:17] <jrib> axisys: there exist a few vcs scripts at vim.org
[22:17] <m0RrE> and they can sometimes disappear for minutes just to come back and keep disturbing me
[22:17] <axisys> erUSUL: well i was thinking of vim plugin do the work in the background
[22:17] <carlee> whats your vodeo card?
[22:17] <axisys> jrib: hmm.
[22:17] <carlee> *video
[22:17] <infid> if all i want to do is permanently mount my windows share in jaunty, do i just have /etc/fstab use smbfs?
[22:18] <jrib> axisys: I'm sure #vim can give you more details about a solution too
[22:18] <erUSUL> axisys: yes there are scripts to intigrate git with emacs or vim but they are for the power user not for the "i'm dumb please commit for me" user.
[22:18] <ZykoticK9> Flaccology, try asking the same question in #ubuntu+1
[22:19] <axisys> jrib: talking to #vim guys
[22:20] <kisuke> can some one help me get my ar242X wireless adapter working again on 9.04
[22:21] <bitplex> How would I go about removing all package that I have installed leaving only the default ones that came with ubuntu?
[22:21] <axisys> erUSUL: this might help if i use rcs http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1111
[22:22] <sebsebseb> kisuke: This might be useful
[22:22] <sebsebseb> !wireless |  kisuke
[22:22] <Raykoid666> new Wordpress 0-day exploit! blog post about it + quick fix: http://Raykoid666.blogs.linkbucks.com
[22:22] <jrib> Raykoid666: please don't do that here
[22:22] <jrib> actually
[22:23] <Raykoid666> sorry
[22:23] <Raykoid666> just thought people should now
[22:23] <jrib> Raykoid666: there are lots of things people should know.  This isn't the right place to tell them though.
[22:24] <jrib> Raykoid666: i thought you were some automated bot given your link which is why I kicked you
[22:27] <bitplex> Anyone?
[22:27] <kisuke> sebsebseb: it worked out of the box then i restarted, went to windoze found it quit (in windoze), went back to buntu and quit there as well
[22:27] <giannis>  /server eu.irc.gr /join #ubuntu
[22:27] <ZykoticK9> jrib, linking from this irc channel to money making websites such as this http://www.linkbucks.com should be discouraged anyways.
[22:27] <BluntedBoyWonder> hello room
[22:27] <jrib> ZykoticK9: agreed
[22:28] <anteaya> I need a driver to read a panasonic 700 mini dv camcorder for streaming from my laptop, where should I begin to look?
[22:28] <BluntedBoyWonder> I am thinking about installing VirtualBox on my 9.04.I got an ipod shuffle 3rd gen and I kinda need itunes 9 for the voice-overs. Anyone got any experience with this?
[22:28] <jrib> !vbox > BluntedBoyWonder
[22:29] <sebsebseb> kisuke: Ok wireless isn't  my area, but  maybe you got faulty wireless hardware.  It's something that came with the lap top which came with Windows?   If so it should always just work in that.
[22:29] <bitplex> How would I go about removing all packages that I have installed leaving only the default ones that came with ubuntu?
[22:29] <BluntedBoyWonder> ok
[22:29] <ZykoticK9> BluntedBoyWonder, be sure to use the PEUL version (includes USB support for VMs) of VBox - add Sun's repo
[22:29] <sebsebseb> kisuke: I assume it's a lap top
[22:30] <BluntedBoyWonder> ok ZykoticK9 duly noted
[22:30] <kisuke> sebsebseb: yes the ar242x has drivers included as of 9.04
[22:30] <kisuke> sebsebseb: i restrted my laptop and it just quit in win and linux
[22:31] <sdegutistest> hi
[22:31] <sdegutistest> whats up?
[22:32] <AeganSkies> is there any change in power savings for karmic? on-demand caused heating problems on quite a few, including my hptx2000 tablet
[22:32] <sdegutistest> im sure there are..
[22:32] <sebsebseb> kisuke: Seems a bit odd why all of a sudden it woudn't work in Windows,  unless your hardware is failing I guess, but really you need someone else to help you.   You can wait here and repeate your issue,  and even try ##networking  it might be an actsaul hardware issue, hence issues with both OS's.
[22:33] <kisuke> sebsebseb: thanks
[22:34] <sebsebseb> kisuke: gl
[22:34] <max_ubuntu> @all hi
[22:35] <stinky> I dont want to pay for usenet access, can I just make a usenet server with ubuntu and log in for free? TIA for any help :)
[22:35] <Rafay> hello people
[22:36] <stinky> hello Rafay
[22:36] <Rafay> I need some help with 'LiveCD'
[22:36] <Rafay> Can I ask here?
[22:36] <Garnol9956> I got a problem with the following command:sudo apt-get install cvs svn git-core mercurial: it says that svn has no installation candidat. What am i doing wrong?
[22:36] <Billiard> Rafay: sure whats the prob
[22:36] <sebsebseb> !ask |  Rafay
[22:37]  * xrandr is away: laying down
[22:37] <Garnol9956> i guess its about repositories
[22:37] <Garnol9956> sudo apt-get install cvs svn git-core mercurial
[22:37] <juan__> hola a todos
[22:37] <sebsebseb> !es |  juan__
[22:37] <Rafay> So, I downloaded the latest version of Ubuntu (9.04) which is about 689MB and I want to dual boot, so I have to burn it. So my question is, would the latest iso will fit in a 700MB disk?
[22:37] <Garnol9956> I got a problem with the following command:sudo apt-get install cvs svn git-core mercurial: it says that svn has no installation candidat. What am i doing wrong?
[22:38] <sebsebseb> Rafay: yes
[22:38] <Garnol9956> yes it will
[22:38] <ageeb> rafay, yes
[22:38] <Rafay> 698MB*
[22:38] <hunt577> Is Sebastrian here?
[22:38] <Billiard> Garnol9956: svn isnt an available package looks like
[22:38] <hunt577> Sebastian*
[22:38] <ageeb> i just did it rafay
[22:38] <ageeb> literally
[22:38] <sebsebseb> Rafay: however  it might be a good idea to just wait untill 9.10 now :)  which is released not this Thursday, but the next one, October 29th
[22:38] <bitplex> How would I go about removing all packages that I have installed leaving only the default ones that came with ubuntu? Please somebody help.
[22:39] <hunt577> I have an HP Pavilion DV7 laptop, would ubuntu be a good operating system for this computer?
[22:39] <Rafay> good Idea
[22:39] <Rafay> In the mean time, I'm gonna try out Ubuntu for the first time on my test computer
[22:39] <Rafay> :)
[22:39] <fnordperfect> hello! is it somehow possible to allow two simultanously logged-in users run the NetworkManager applet?
[22:40] <ageeb> does anyone know if the updates after 9.10beta install get rolled into the final release or do they stay as 'updates' to download after install?
[22:40] <Rafay> You guys "really" sure it would fit?
[22:40] <Zzeiss> hunt577: It all depends on the peripherals inside.  It *might* work fine - or you *might* have wireless card and video issues.  The video can almost always be run in a degraded mode (i.e. no accelleration).
[22:40] <jrib> !karmic | ageeb
[22:40] <hunt577> oh ok Zzeiss thank you
[22:40] <ageeb> rafay, i downloaded 9.10beta today, burned it, and installed it
[22:40] <Zzeiss> hunt577: The wireless card may or may not work at all.  Some mfgrs make really horrid wireless cards.
[22:40] <hunt577> ah
[22:40] <ZykoticK9> bitplex, i'm not really sure how that could be done - something with apt-cache policy perhaps?  what version are you using?  perhaps there is a list of default packages somewhere and you could try using a diff to compare the two file?  dunno.  good luck man.
[22:40] <hunt577> I can always try it out
[22:40] <Zzeiss> hunt577: However, a suggestion?  Download a LiveCD of Ubuntu and give it a try.
[22:40] <Rafay> okay then
[22:41] <hunt577> Thank you I will do that
[22:41] <Rafay> Thanks for helping ageeb and others
[22:41] <Zzeiss> hunt577: the LiveCD will run VERY SLOWLY compared to the hard drive.  But you can test everything.
[22:41] <sebsebseb> Rafay: The LIve CD fits on a  standard 700MB CD
[22:41] <Zzeiss> hunt577: If it works *at all* under the LiveCD, it will work in the full install.  :)
[22:41] <Rafay> yeah, I just bought that
[22:42] <bitplex> ZykoticK9 - thank you for helping - version 8.10
[22:42] <Rafay> 80 minute, right?
[22:42] <Zzeiss> hunt577: Another option- do you feel comfortable with swapping your hard drive?  If so, pop in a cheap spare hard drive, and do the install.  That way, you see pretty closely how blazingly fast Ubuntu is compared to Windows.  :)
[22:42] <hunt577> One more question, should I get the Beta 9.10 Ubuntu or an existing Ubuntu?
[22:42] <sebsebseb> Rafay: Before burning an ISO your meant to really md5sum check it, to make sure it's a good download
[22:42] <sebsebseb> !md5sum |  Rafay
[22:43] <Zzeiss> hunt577: I'd go with 9.04.  Especially if you are going to swap hard drives before the install.  :)
[22:43] <ZykoticK9> bitplex, i just checked my iso collection - but i don't have a 8.10 would have done a vm for the default list but without iso can't really help out :(
[22:43] <Rafay> I downloaded through the torrent provided on the site, so no need to worry about
[22:43] <bitplex> ZykoticK9 - its ok, thanks for trying
[22:43] <Rafay> but still, I will run a check to verify
[22:43] <hunt577> Zzeiss - I am just backing up all the files I want to keep on a USB thumb drive and will transfer them back on the computer once I have ubuntu installed
[22:43] <Zzeiss> hunt577: Oh- and even if some thiings don't work in the liveCD or initial install, plug it in to a wired network and do a "system upgrade to newest rev".  Lots of things got to working.  :)
[22:43] <bitplex> Hopefully somebody else mught have
[22:44] <sebsebseb> hunt577: just wait for 9.10, and when you got the final of it, do a nice clean install,  then  nice Ext4 by default a faster file system, and Grub 2 later version of the boot loader,  where as 9.04 Ext3 upgrades don't get that
[22:44] <hunt577> oh ok
[22:44] <Rafay> one more question, 80 Minute -> 700MB CD?
[22:44] <sebsebseb> hunt577: or put  9.04 on in the mean time
[22:44] <hunt577> Sebastian!!!!
[22:44] <Zzeiss> hunt577: Another thing you might want to try is to install a _dual boot_ partition setup.  That way you can still run your Windows install of HALO.  :)
[22:44] <hunt577> I have been looking for you
[22:44] <hunt577> Do you remember me?
[22:44] <Garnol9956> how do i install software from tar.bz2?
[22:45] <Rafay> ageeb?
[22:45] <Zzeiss> Garnol9956: You have to unpack it with bunzip2, which is not in the default install.  :(
[22:45] <trism> Garnol9956: you need to extract it with tar xjvf file.tar.bz2 and then follow the directions for the package
[22:45] <Zzeiss> Garnol9956: so, "sudo apt-get install bunzip2", then "bunzip2 yourfilehere", then work from that result.
[22:46] <ZykoticK9> bitplex, to get a list of what is installed you can use the command "dpkg --get-selections > installed-software" if you could run the same thing on a default install you'd know what you have installed since the base setup.  good luck man.
[22:46] <Zzeiss> gotta run.  This is my train stop.
[22:46] <sebsebseb> hunt577: probably
[22:46] <Dark_Shadow> yo
[22:46] <Garnol9956> ZykoticK9 i need to compile the software i think
[22:47] <sebsebseb> Rafay: You didn't have to pm  me to ask for me to answer how fast the download will be,  that depends on how fast your Internet connection is, and to some extent,  where your downloading it from
[22:47] <Rafay> I didn't asked for it :o
[22:47] <ZykoticK9> Garnol9956, yes typically a tar.bz2 would be source code -- perfect world -- cd into the directory and run "./configure" then "make" then "sudo make install" - but that rarely goes smoothly :)
[22:48] <Rafay> anyway
[22:48] <Rafay> Thanks for answering
[22:48] <trism> Garnol9956: your best bet is to read the README that comes with it, and the docs on the site you got the package from
[22:48] <Rafay> I hope I'll have a good time with Ubuntu
[22:48] <Garnol9956> i know, thats why i am looking for a tutorial but i got stock
[22:48] <Garnol9956> ZykoticK9 I dont know whats wrong with this command:sudo apt-get install cvs svn git-core mercurial
[22:49] <trism> Garnol9956: and making sure you have the build-essential package installed is usually helpful
[22:49] <Dark_Shadow> i have a wifi dangle usb sagem xn-720S i'm using jaunty and ndiswrapper (windows driver) i cannot run it on monitor mode to run airodump :/ can someone helpme!!
[22:49] <Garnol9956> yep i already got this one
[22:49] <Garnol9956> but i need this package: sudo apt-get install cvs svn git-core mercurial
[22:49] <zymmol> llll
[22:49] <zymmol> l
[22:49] <ZykoticK9> Garnol9956, svn is not available in my install???
[22:50] <trism> Garnol9956: those are several version control packages
[22:50] <ZykoticK9> Garnol9956, try "sudo apt-get install cvs git-core mercurial"
[22:50] <trism> Garnol9956: and svn is in the subversion package
[22:50] <jrib> ZykoticK9: cvs really? heh
[22:50] <Garnol9956> trism what does this mean to me?
[22:50] <BlackFLAG> i just got ubuntu burned to a cd. i ran it and basically did the test trial and i like it. id like to install it on my computer. currently im running windows vista. what happens to vista when i install ubuntu? does it remain on my hard drive or should i move vista to an external hard drive?
[22:51] <Garnol9956> ZykoticK9 ah now it works. The official ubuntu tutorial needs a correction i think
[22:51] <ZykoticK9> jrib, it isn't for me
[22:51] <trism> Garnol9956: it means, why do you need all those version control systems installed?
[22:51] <jrib> ZykoticK9: ah
[22:51] <jrib> ZykoticK9: I misread the previous line as saying "there are several vcs", my mistake
[22:52] <sdwrage> Hey guys :)
[22:52] <jrib> Garnol9956: where is the official ubuntu tutorial you speak of?
[22:52] <sdwrage> I need to install some ATI drivers but don't want to settle with the default FGLRX drivers.... is there any other option?
[22:52] <durt> BlackFLAG, you will be asked what you wish to do.
[22:52] <ZykoticK9> jrib, if you need "svn" i'd try "sudo apt-get install subversion" as well < - not sure about svn/subversion really
[22:53] <BlackFLAG> :durt and do you know what those options are? i just dont want to make any decisions that are irreparable
[22:53] <Garnol9956> jrib its on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[22:53] <trism> !svn | ZykoticK9
[22:53] <SnakDoc> i am running karmic anyone know why i would have a little mouse showing while it boots and how to change that to default
[22:53] <duffydack> how can I change the language of a user in ubuntu server?
[22:53] <jrib> Garnol9956: it's a wiki, you can fix it!
[22:53] <durt> BlackFLAG, if you're really woried about screwing it up, do a backup first....er, can't remember what it actually says.
[22:54] <BlackFLAG> should i backup vista as a whole on my external?
[22:54] <jrib> !karmic | SnakDoc
[22:54] <ZykoticK9> jrib, you catch that ubottu message to me from trism?  that was for you.
[22:54] <BlackFLAG> i only backed up my music and other programs that i use alot
[22:54] <jrib> ZykoticK9: thanks
[22:54] <safe> Ok, I need serious help. Under the gnome menu, all my applications have disappeared, my whole configuration of gnome is wiped out.
[22:54] <safe> Is there anyway to roll back to a previous state?
[22:55] <jrib> safe: create a fresh new user and see if the problem persists
[22:55] <sdwrage> Can anyone help me with my above issue?
[22:56] <Billiard> BlackFLAG: ive never had problems resizing partitions, but if there is power loss or something it could get corrupted
[22:56] <jrib> !anyone | sdwrage
[22:56] <safe> jrib: Will try. I can't even reach the logout, etc in System.
[22:56] <jrib> !helpme | sdwrage
[22:56] <jrib> safe: use tty1
[22:57] <Bhagavat> buenas tardes
[22:57] <sdwrage> jrib, I asked the question
[22:57] <BlackFLAG> yeah id like to do a dual boot but i only have 71 gb free left out of my 175 gb drive C:. is that enough to partition the drive and run two OS' with system performance not being bogged?
[22:58] <jrib> sdwrage: right, but you should just repeat it since most people are not going to bother looking for it and there are new people that joined that can't scroll up and read it
[22:58] <sdwrage> k
[22:58] <sdwrage> I need to install some ATI drivers but don't want to settle with the default FGLRX drivers.... is there any other option?
[22:58] <jrib> sdwrage: just make sure you wait 10-15 minutes between repetitions
[22:59] <sdwrage> k
[22:59] <jrib> !ati > sdwrage
[22:59] <jrib> sdwrage: see if that helps
[22:59] <sdwrage> k
[22:59] <jrib> k
[22:59] <duffydack> no one know how to set a users locale/language in ubuntu server?
[22:59] <Garnol9956> jrib the tutorial i sent you is very confusing
[22:59] <jrib> sdwrage: set LANGUAGE I think
[22:59] <Billiard> BlackFLAG: im running ubuntu with less than 10 GB, runs fine
[22:59] <jrib> sdwrage: ack ignore me.  duffydack: set the LANGUAGE environment variable
[22:59] <Garnol9956> can you tell me a easier way to follow this waytrough:http://aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=ipw3945
[23:00] <sdwrage> jrib, thx ill have a look
[23:00] <duffydack> jrib, do you know what that would be exactly for spanish?
[23:00] <jrib> duffydack: or maybe LANG.  easy way is to change it using gdm and then check the user's environment I guess
[23:01] <duffydack> jrib, no X/GDM here
[23:01] <duffydack> jrib, just want it for ssh etc.
[23:01] <duffydack> I`m stumped, without a gui lol.
[23:01] <ejv> Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.
[23:02] <ejv> can't start firefox :\
[23:02] <ejv> and it's not running, how do I stomp this bug
[23:02] <ZykoticK9> ejv, "killall -9 firefox" in a terminal
[23:02] <jrib> duffydack: #ubuntu-es probably knows right away what it's called
[23:02] <ejv> firefox: no process killed
[23:02] <ejv> [1]+  Done                    firefox
[23:03] <ejv> didn't work :\
[23:03] <jrib> duffydack: if you have no luck there, some switch to the "locale" command should list locales
[23:03] <safe> Doing a new user did it, I got all my applications and everything back to normal.
[23:03] <safe> But I don't want to lose the configurations that are left with my old user.
[23:03] <ZykoticK9> ejv, "ps aux | grep firefox" or just try firefox-bin -- what version of ff you using?
[23:03] <jrib> !who | safe
[23:03] <ejv> using 3.5
[23:03] <safe> jrib: you. ;)
[23:03] <ejv> 3679  0.0  0.0   4212   708 pts/3    S+   18:03   0:00 grep firefox
[23:03] <ZykoticK9> ejv, different name then hold a sec
[23:04] <jrib> safe: right, so now we know it's just a configuration issue.  Try renaming ~/.local/share/applications/ and ~/.config/menus/ as a start
[23:04] <duffydack> jrib, thanks.. I just dont know how to set the language variable for a user
[23:04] <ZykoticK9> ejv, "killall -9 firefox-3.5"
[23:04] <jrib> duffydack: use ~/.profile
[23:05] <ejv> firefox-3.5: no process killed
[23:05] <ZykoticK9> ejv, then try starting firefox
[23:05] <jrib> duffydack: I would set both LANGUAGE and LANG (you should read « man locale » because I am too lazy to)
[23:05] <ejv> still doesn't work
[23:05] <ejv> lol
[23:05] <ZykoticK9> ejv, ???
[23:05] <ejv> i get the same error
[23:05] <bob99> If I have a folder with a bunch of svn-base files in it, how do I load these into a proper svn directory or create a proper file tree format out of it?
[23:05] <ejv> Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system.
[23:06] <bob99> All the .c and .h files are out of order
[23:06] <KnifeySpooney> Is there any way to read .SDI files from a Windows boot CD inside linux?
[23:06] <bob99> they are supposed to live in certain folders but they are all just dumped into one folder
[23:06] <safe> jrib: Will do. I noticed I don't have ~/.gnome2 , gconf or gconfd left in my original users folder.
[23:06] <Garnol9956> jrib can you help me to install this source code driverhttp://aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=ipw3945 ??
[23:06] <safe> Is there any way to get it back?
[23:06] <jrib> safe: weird
[23:06] <duffydack> jrib, thanks
[23:06] <jrib> Garnol9956: aircrack should be in the repositories...
[23:07] <jrib> !away > Chybeck`Aw
[23:07] <Garnol9956> and whats about the specific drivers for my chipset?
[23:07] <Garnol9956> i had to look for very special drivers -- the ipw3945
[23:08] <ZykoticK9> jrib, it appears to be "apt-cache search aircrack" it's not called aircrack though...
[23:08] <jrib> ZykoticK9: tell Garnol9956 :)
[23:08] <Garnol9956> i found it
[23:09] <Garnol9956> but still there is my question about the specific drivers i need
[23:09] <Garnol9956> i was told to have a very detailed look at chipsets
[23:09] <jrib> !enter | Garnol9956
[23:09] <jrib> Garnol9956: you're sure that driver isn't in the repositories?
[23:09] <safe> jrib: I know. Then it hardly seems worth the time. :(
[23:10] <cipherz> hello, anyone have experience with the asus eee 1101 (with gma 500 poulsbo)
[23:10] <ZykoticK9> !anyone | cipherz
[23:10] <jrib> Garnol9956: anyway, what do you have a question about on that page?
[23:10] <safe> jrib: Thanks for the help anyway, will see what I can do.
[23:11] <jrib> safe: any idea what caused the files to disappear?
[23:11] <safe> jrib: Uh. Now I do, it seems I ran out of hdd space.
[23:11] <jrib> safe: ah
[23:11] <cipherz> well the reason for asking the question that way, was because i tried the easy peasy, without luck... seems like its based on ubuntu jaunty which should work, however i have some problems with package dependencies, but thinking about doing a pure ubuntu install..
[23:12] <safe> jrib: Is that a common factor? And also, is there any way to get them back?
[23:13] <jrib> safe: I haven't seen a full hard drive cause the deletion of files before, no.  I don't know how you would get them back
[23:13] <jrib> "them" = settings and stuff
[23:13] <Garnol9956> jrib i try to follow this page but i am stuck with the driver because i have to compile it. I didnt fond the ipwraw -ng driver in the repositories. The page again is: http://aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=ipw3945
[23:13] <ZykoticK9> cipherz, i highly recommend using Ubuntu Desktop full version if you have the space, you can add the NBR interface to the regular desktop if you prefer it.  it's a lot more stable/polished then easy peasy.
[23:13] <jrib> Garnol9956: yes, what part of that page are you stuck on?
[23:13] <ZykoticK9> cipherz, just UNR is you don't have the space ;)
[23:14] <Garnol9956> jrib its the part next to "installation"
[23:14] <jrib> Garnol9956: specifically, what don't you know how to do?
[23:14] <jrib> Garnol9956: I assume you can download the driver...
[23:14] <Garnol9956> jrib the make command gives errors
[23:14] <cipherz> ZykoticK9, I have 160gigs so space is not an issue, i just need it running :) ideally I'd prefer debian but seems the poulsbo drivers arent there yet, so opt'd for a quick ubuntu setup
[23:14] <jrib> !pastebin | Garnol9956
[23:15] <ZykoticK9> cipherz, cool.  hopefully it will go smoothly for ya...
[23:15] <cipherz> ZykoticK9, will try a regular ubuntu
[23:16] <ZykoticK9> cipherz, FYI eee-applet - A systray applet for Eee Pc & eeepc-acpi-scripts - Scripts to support suspend and hotkeys on the Asus Eee PC laptop
[23:16] <cipherz> ZykoticK9, thanks :)
[23:17] <Garnol9956> jrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/297834/ thanks for having a look at my problems
[23:18] <icebreaker> Ops..Boa noite a todos -)D
[23:18] <icebreaker> =-D
[23:18] <jrib> Garnol9956: did you read the output?
[23:19] <pee> what should I do, to give another user permissions for a programm, which is installed as root. it's unp.
[23:19] <safe> jrib: I pinged out, did you say something?
[23:19] <Garnol9956> jrib the first and last lines, but i didnt find the mistake
[23:19] <jrib> safe: I haven't seen a full hard drive cause the deletion of files before, no.  I don't know how you would get them back
[23:19] <Paulo39> hi, do you now if is there possible to share a folder in Dropbox with a person who doesn't have an account yet? does she/he have to make an account to be able to access to that folder?
[23:19] <trism> Garnol9956: did you install the linux-headers package?
[23:20] <jrib> Garnol9956: well I doubt the shell remark is related, but do it anyway to rule it out.  Then make sure you've installed the headers for your kernel
[23:20] <Halitech> Paulo39, there is a public share on the web interface you can share files that way I believe
[23:20] <Garnol9956> trism what are the windows headers packages?
[23:20] <safe> jrib: Then I will just reformat, it was long overdue. Thanks for your help!
[23:20] <jrib> safe: seems like overkill!
[23:21] <trism> Garnol9956: linux-headers is the package that contains includes for compiling kernel modules
[23:21] <Paulo39> Halitech, yes, i know. but its a work project i have with another colleagues and i want to share files about the project just with them
[23:21] <Garnol9956> trism the command is apt-get ???
[23:21] <safe> jrib: I know I can fix it, but I have all sorts of problem with my setup, it was my first ubuntu install so there's a lot of screw-ups.
[23:21] <trism> Garnol9956: sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[23:21] <jrib> safe: ah
[23:21] <cirdan_> hey all, anyone know much about the 9.10 upgrade? i did it, and now it fubar'd grub up... i've since installed grub2, and it thinks things are fine but it errors out saying the /dev/disk/by-uuid isn't present. it's not
[23:21] <m0r0n> Everytime I load aMSN my keyboard starts erasing everything and I can no longer type does this happen to anyone?
[23:21] <Halitech> Paulo39, I think they would need an account then to share safely
[23:22] <Garnol9956> jrib i tried the make=SHELL ..... same result
[23:22] <Halitech> !9.10 cirdan_
[23:22] <cirdan_> :)
[23:22] <Halitech> !9.10 | cirdan_
[23:22] <pee> (00:19:07) pee: what should I do, to give another user permissions for a programm, which is installed as root. it's unp.
[23:22] <m0r0n> Everytime I load aMSN my keyboard starts erasing everything and I can no longer type does this happen to anyoneth?
[23:22] <Paulo39> Halitech, ok, thanks
[23:22] <cirdan_> ok but since it's a grub issue i thoguth i could ask here
[23:22] <m0r0n> Woops.
[23:23] <Halitech> cirdan_, 9.10 is using grub2, 9.04 uses grub so the people in #ubuntu+1 would have more info
[23:23] <Halitech> m0r0n, I cant get mine to connect today but prior to that, no issues
[23:23] <Garnol9956> trism i am told to select "one" to install -- i just try to install every?
[23:24] <trism> Garnol9956: you want the one for your current kernel
[23:24] <trism> Garnol9956: uname -a will print the info about your running kernel
[23:24] <kandjar> is there a know bug using nautilus to transfer files between different computers??? I was having issue thinking my wifi connection sux while transfering files from a remote desktop to my laptop using nautilus (transfer as low as 3Kb/s); well i rescently tried with scp and it's working like a charms (600 to 700kb/s)
[23:27] <Ailuro> My 9.04 AMD install is not working from CD, and I'd like to try a USB install to rule out a problem with my CD burner.  However, the usb-creator.exe file indicated on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick does not appear on the amd64 install CD. Is there an alternate location to find this program?
[23:27] <thijs_> Hi
[23:27] <mrak> hello
[23:27] <Halitech> Ailuro, unetbootin
[23:27] <Halitech> Ailuro, actually, does 9.04 have a builtin creator?
[23:28] <Ailuro> Halitech, I am sorry but I do not understand the question.
[23:28] <mrak> when i have tried to client part of veejay i got this error
[23:28] <mrak> /usr/include/bits/fcntl2.h:51: error: call to ‘__open_missing_mode’ declared with attribute error: open with O_CREAT in second argument needs 3 arguments
[23:28] <mrak> do you have anybody idea where is the problem and how can i fix it ?
[23:28] <Garnol9956> trism it says linux-headers-2.6.31-11-generic is already the newest version
[23:28] <Halitech> Ailuro, I thought 9.04 had a built in usb disk creator
[23:29] <thijs_> question, i just upgraded my laptop from 8.10 to 9.04, but now it won't boot anymore. Can't get in to recovery mode, it hangs on loading hardware drivers
[23:29] <thijs_> What would I do about this? I would like to be able to boot my laptop again
[23:30] <Ailuro> Halitech, if so I do not know where to find it.  This is the first time I have tried to install Ubuntu.  I downloaded the amd64 .iso and burned it to CD, but the installation process fails with a fatal error from modprobe.
[23:30] <Halitech> Ailuro, do you have ubuntu installed now?
[23:30] <Ailuro> (For that matter, testing CD integrity fails with the same error. MemTest+ worked fine)
[23:30] <trism> Garnol9956: you may want to ask in #ubuntu+1, the latest kernel in jaunty is 2.6.28-15
[23:31] <Ailuro> Halitech, I do not. I burned the CD using Roxio Easy CD Creator 5 on Windows 2000 Professional (NT5)
[23:31] <Halitech> Ailuro, ok, use unetbootin in windows to install ubuntu
[23:32] <Ailuro> Halitech, the computer to which I am installing is brand new, constructed last night.
[23:33] <Halitech> Ailuro, so there is no operating system on it now?
[23:33] <Bluey> what is the channel name for ubuntu 9.10?
[23:33] <Billiard> Bluey: ubuntu+1 i think
[23:34] <Ailuro> Halitech, thank you.  Are there any gotchas in the Unetbootin USB creation process, or are the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick accurate? (Yes, no OS on the computer, new SATA hard drive fresh out of the bag.)
[23:34] <Bluey> i just installed 9.10 and I am having problems --
[23:34] <Garnol9956> trism ok
[23:34] <Garnol9956> trism thnx
[23:34] <thijs_> Bluey, /j #ubuntu+1
[23:34] <Bluey> ahh sorry
[23:35] <thijs_> np
[23:35] <thijs_> question, i just upgraded my laptop from 8.10 to 9.04, but now it won't boot anymore. Can't get in to recovery mode, it hangs on loading hardware drivers. anyone got any tips on how to even get to a shell ?
[23:35] <Halitech> Ailuro, not that I know of
[23:36] <koshari> Ailuro just make sure the partition on the usb key is fat32
[23:37] <Billiard> thijs_: i would backup data and reinstall
[23:38] <Halitech> thijs_, can you boot from a live cd and run fsck on the drive?
[23:38] <thijs_> Billiard, alright... Well i tried reinstalling ten times, always does, kinda.. :P
[23:39] <thijs_> Halitech, i haven't done that yet, does that work even  ?
[23:39] <Halitech> thijs_, it should as long as you specify the correct drive
[23:39] <thijs_> oh, and yeah, i don't have a livecd atm.. :P
[23:40] <Halitech> thijs_, what kind of laptop and what kind of video card?
[23:40] <Ailuro> While I am creating the USB installation, any hints on what "modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/modules.dep: No such file or directory" indicates?
[23:40] <synackfin> is there any way to make cp or rsync pre-allocate the files they're copying so it doesn't fragment?
[23:40] <thijs_> ati radeon mobility hd 3400
[23:41] <Halitech> thijs_, did you install the ati drivers before you rebooted?
[23:41] <thijs_> ehh, no.. =/
[23:42] <Hagus> Does Action_parsnip come into this channel?
[23:42] <Halitech> thijs_, ok, then it shouldn't be an issue with the ati drivers
[23:43] <dragonkh> hi
[23:43] <thijs_> Halitech, does that mean i didn't install the ati drivers on 8.10, or after the 9.04 install?
[23:43] <thijs_> because i did install them on 8.10
[23:43] <dragonkh> I just installed ruby from source on my ubuntu server as root - but my reqular users cant use any of the gems like rake- they get permission denied - what perms do I need to set on my /usr/local/bin dir ?
[23:44] <resno_> Hagus: i believe so.
[23:45] <Halitech> thijs_, the ati drivers were better in 8.10 and below, when 9.04 introduced the new version of Xorg, things started breaking, especially for cards under the HD series
[23:45] <Hagus> resno_: I just wanted him to know that a tip he gave worked very nicely :)
[23:45] <photon> what's this awesome theme: http://imagebin.org/68562 ?
[23:45] <roracle82> hey guys i have this school project and i was wondering if i could use screenshots of ubuntu for the project.  it's supposed to be a user's manual for technical writing
[23:45] <ne0futur> hi all, searching for config tools for ubuntu I found ubuntu-manager ( http://ubuntu-manager.tavux.info )
[23:45] <Gummi> roracle82, what is the problem?
[23:46] <ne0futur> is it stable ? why is it not in the default sources.list ?
[23:46] <thijs_> Halitech, auch, alright, so how would i fix this? because installing 9.04 from livecd gave me the same problem
[23:46] <ne0futur> or does ubuntu have another tool like this ?
[23:46] <Gummi> roracle82, the screenshot button is above Insert button, between F12 and scroll lock
[23:46] <Halitech> thijs_, don't use 9.04
[23:46] <roracle82> i know this, i just didn't know if it was okay to do such a thing, though i figured it was
[23:46] <thijs_> Halitech, should i try 9.10?
[23:47] <roracle82> just covering my butt is all
[23:47] <Halitech> thijs_, worth a shot
[23:47] <Gummi> roracle82, just change the default theme, so it doesnt look this bad :D
[23:47] <roracle82> lol, right?
[23:47] <Halitech> thijs_, although 9.10 is using the newer version of Xorg so it may not work either unless the open source drivers are better
[23:47] <Hagus> I was using powerpoint/impress on a desktop ubuntu9.04 to create a presentation using vista on a laptop and I needed to eliminate undesired whitespaces.
[23:48] <thijs_> Halitech, alright, will try that this weekend, got no livecds here right now, so none os to download and mount them into my cd drive
[23:48] <roracle82> haha, okay thanks guys
[23:48] <thijs_> aw..
[23:48] <Gummi> roracle82, yes but I urge you to do that
[23:48] <Hagus> By using oo3 on both desktop and laptop, the problem was resolved.
[23:48] <thefirstdude> why is apollon not in the repo anymore, where can I get a deb for it?
[23:48]  * xrandr is back
[23:48] <Andorin> !ubuntu
[23:48] <thijs_> Halitech, I was just upgrading because 8.10 was also failing on me with random freezes all the time..
[23:48] <sblunix> Hey all?
[23:48] <anno> so in 9.10 ConsoleKit still spawns masses of threads. i don't need X or dbus anyway, so are there any drawbacks when i simply uninstall consolekit?
[23:48] <Flannel> anno: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic support, thanks
[23:48] <Hagus> ubuntu9.04 is a very usable and charming system.
[23:49] <Halitech> thijs_, got a copy of 8.04?
[23:49] <Neviya> bonsoir il y a des francaçais ici ?
[23:49] <sblunix> !fr | Neviya
[23:49] <thijs_> Halitech, yes, but i lent it to a friend. -.=
[23:49] <Neviya> je sais mais il n'est pas accessible
[23:49] <anno> Flannel: err. the same "problem" exists in 9.04, it isn't that karmic-specific O_O
[23:49] <sblunix> d'accord
[23:49] <sblunix> un moment s'il-vous-plait
[23:49] <Neviya> thx
[23:49] <Halitech> thijs_, I know its an older version but I would go with it, seemed the most stable to me
[23:49] <WanHouse> Testing 1 2 3
[23:50] <Halitech> D-
[23:50] <WanHouse> Thx, wonder though.
[23:50] <Neviya> Neviya-nux
[23:50] <Neviya> il est partout
[23:50] <progesterone> How can I bind permanently like this ... >alias 'll=ls -l' so that I don't need to do alias everytime I open terminal?
[23:50] <thijs_> Halitech, thank you for your time. This weekend i'll buy some new cds.. though pretty bad 'bout the driver issue.
[23:50] <trism> progesterone: add it to .bashrc
[23:51] <prince_jammys> progesterone: put it in your ~/.bashrc
[23:51] <prince_jammys> progesterone: or uncomment it there, since it's likely there already as a comment.
[23:51] <thijs_> Halitech, you see there's someone who got it working on 9.04, but the problem is, my laptop doesn't show me a terminal, which leaves me to a dead end on the tutorial
[23:51] <Halitech> thijs_, yeah, bad timing by ati, xorg and everyone at the same time to leave old ati cards and their users out in the cold so to speak
[23:52] <bartek> Hey there. I just switched my dual monitor setup from using my TV to another regular 19" LCD. Problem is, with the same setup (using Virtual in xorg.conf), the second monitor simply does not work out. It's mirrored first of all, when I tell it not to be and the resolution is a mess. I'm using an ATI card. Any recommendations on where to start on this?
[23:52] <roracle82> oh i was wondering, is 9.10 going to detect my windows 7 installation for grub?
[23:52] <live> hi everu body
[23:52] <progesterone> prince_jammys trism There're 4 file with that names. Which one?
[23:52] <prince_jammys> progesterone: the one in your home directory. ~/.bashrc
[23:55] <dpanda> windows 7 is releasing tomorrow, ubuntu 9.10  in next 8 days & i'm in a dual state of mind :)
[23:55] <roracle82> yeah
[23:55] <WanHouse> trism: We dislike foul play.
[23:55] <dpanda> i need to buy a new computer, and i will assemble it myself, so how do i ensure to get compatible hardware
[23:55] <Kuifje111> windows 7 has been released to a small public already.
[23:55] <progesterone> prince_jammys cool. It works. Thanks
[23:55] <roracle82> see, i have win 7 and xp on this system, but ubuntu won't detect windows 7
[23:56] <trism> WanHouse: uh, what?
[23:56] <Kuifje111> you can download it already with some effort.
[23:56] <prince_jammys> progesterone: welcome.
[23:56] <Kuifje111> dpanda: compatible with what? with each other?
[23:56] <skylar_> Quick question, one i'm sure gets asked a lot but I can't find a answer I trust enough.  I have a Nvidia Geforce graphics card, and everytime i restart I have to change the "Nvida X server settings" all over again to get my desired resolution
[23:57] <Kuifje111> dpanda: with each other is basic computer knowledge, there are probably tutorials on the net. it basically goes like this: you begin with a motherboard and from there all other parts need to be compatible with the motherboard.
[23:57] <teofren> anyone heard of a driver for SIS771 video?
[23:57] <dpanda> Kuifje111: oh sorry i did not make myself clear, ubuntu compatible hardware, you see i am thinking of going back to ubuntu instead of spending for win7
[23:57] <Halitech> skylar_, funny enough I was just looking that issue up, check here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1221072&highlight=nvidia
[23:57] <skylar_> heh.
[23:57] <snellcode> dpanda: i just set up a new comp with ubuntu actually!
[23:58] <dpanda> Kuifje111: so all regular processor and mobo will be good with ubuntu i guess
[23:58] <dpanda> snellcode: oh nice! share the specs please :)
[23:58] <Kuifje111> dpanda: I dont think you'll face any comaptibility problems with new hardware, but I am not 100% sure with that.
[23:58] <ZykoticK9> skylar_, are you using "gksudo nvidia-settings" when you "Save Current Configuration" - it needs root access to right to /etc/X11/xorg.conf...  good luck.
[23:58] <Kuifje111> dpanda: yes, I think so.
[23:58] <skylar_> Halitech:  He descriped the exact same problem
[23:58] <skylar_> describes *
[23:58] <snellcode> dpanda: im using core i5 on asus p7p55d pro
[23:58] <adams> new ubuntu is amazing
[23:58] <adams> found a few bugs already
[23:58] <Halitech> dpanda, most hardware should be good and only things like the video card (safe if you go Nvidia) wireless and printers may give issues
[23:59] <dpanda> Kuifje111: yes coz my past experience with ubuntu was not so please due to a very incompatible cheap lenovo laptop
[23:59] <dpanda> snellcode: how much for the core5
[23:59] <Kuifje111> dpanda: yeah, that is possible. as long as you do not have very rare hardware like in laptops you wont face any problems, I think.
[23:59] <snellcode> dpanda: cheap