[00:34] hey [00:35] im wondering about OpenRC vs Upstart, and Upstarts inclusion in gentoo... anyone have anything to say about this? [00:50] zx2c4: I guess you could run OpenRC on top of Upstart [00:50] you have to keep in mind, that OpenRC does not provide /sbin/init [00:52] It's basically a sophisticated version of Debian/Ubuntus' sysv-rc package [11:42] How I disable service on upstart? By editing start script? [11:46] comment out the "start on" line [11:47] are those /etc/init/* files config files for dpkg, so they won't be overwritten by package upgrade? [11:47] they're dpkg conffiles in Debian/Ubuntu-based systems, yes [11:49] ok, thanks for your help! [11:51] This side of the system is not very well documented, either on man pages or web [11:51] or I'm just using bad keywords for searching :-( [11:54] that's because it's not the "proper" way to do it [11:54] there isn't a proper way [11:54] (yet) [12:00] :-( [12:01] but still upstart has been in ubuntu for several releases, oh my [12:01] so? [12:03] at least I think having proper way to configure boot-up sequence would be needed [12:04] at least in server environment [12:04] but that's only my opinnion, nothing more [12:07] anyway, thanks for help. Bye! [12:12] some people have no concept of the term "in development", do they? [21:23] UDS in Dallas this year? Silly [21:23] Should be nice, ya'll coming to me this time. [22:28] ;) [22:28] this UDS, I want a *real* cowboy! [23:59] Keybuk: that cowboy would go wonderfully with that sparkly pony we all want.