[00:34] <zx2c4> hey
[00:35] <zx2c4> im wondering about OpenRC vs Upstart, and Upstarts inclusion in gentoo... anyone have anything to say about this?
[00:50] <mbiebl> zx2c4: I guess you could run OpenRC on top of Upstart
[00:50] <mbiebl> you have to keep in mind, that OpenRC does not provide /sbin/init
[00:52] <mbiebl> It's basically a sophisticated version of Debian/Ubuntus' sysv-rc package
[11:42] <tavasti> How I disable service on upstart? By editing start script?
[11:46] <Keybuk> comment out the "start on" line
[11:47] <tavasti> are those /etc/init/* files config files for dpkg, so they won't be overwritten by package upgrade?
[11:47] <Keybuk> they're dpkg conffiles in Debian/Ubuntu-based systems, yes
[11:49] <tavasti> ok, thanks for your help!
[11:51] <tavasti> This side of the system is not very well documented, either on man pages or web
[11:51] <tavasti> or I'm just using bad keywords for searching :-(
[11:54] <Keybuk> that's because it's not the "proper" way to do it
[11:54] <Keybuk> there isn't a proper way
[11:54] <Keybuk> (yet)
[12:00] <tavasti> :-(
[12:01] <tavasti> but still upstart has been in ubuntu for several releases, oh my
[12:01] <Keybuk> so?
[12:03] <tavasti> at least I think having proper way to configure boot-up sequence would be needed
[12:04] <tavasti> at least in server environment
[12:04] <tavasti> but that's only my opinnion, nothing more
[12:07] <tavasti> anyway, thanks for help. Bye!
[12:12] <Keybuk> some people have no concept of the term "in development", do they?
[21:23] <wasabi__> UDS in Dallas this year? Silly
[21:23] <wasabi__> Should be nice, ya'll coming to me this time.
[22:28] <Keybuk> ;)
[22:28] <Keybuk> this UDS, I want a *real* cowboy!
[23:59] <Daviey> Keybuk: that cowboy would go wonderfully with that sparkly pony we all want.