[00:04] what is the fastest os? [00:06] gusk, that's a pretty general question [00:07] i work with electronics program only [00:08] and c++ and asm programming [00:08] vhdl verilog ada [00:18] gusk: emacs [00:18] But seriously, that question doesn't really make sense, sorry :-/ === mihalisxfsee is now known as mihalis === mihalis is now known as mihalisxfsee [00:31] hi! [00:32] I have a problem with amarok2.2 [00:33] I can't import my database collection from amarok 1.4.9 [00:33] can anybody help me? === liberfiasco is now known as memenode [00:45] I can't get youtube to work in konq === BOZG1 is now known as BOZG === sinned__ is now known as zeitx [01:03] gfhfh === Paraselene__ is now known as Paraselene_ [01:08] xcv === zeitx is now known as sinned__ === sinned__ is now known as zeitx === zeitx is now known as sinned__ === les is now known as Guest68813 === sinned__ is now known as zeitx === zeitx is now known as sinned__ === sinned__ is now known as zeitx === tweek is now known as Tweek900 [01:25] Hi pals, is it the right place for a question ? I never went on any irc chat since the 90s... [01:31] charles__: depends on your question [01:35] anyone in here able to help me get drivers for a broadcom wifi card? === michaelh_ is now known as Mappa [02:04] hi, do you know if there are plans to use the kde4 integration patches for firefox that the opensuse developers are working on? [02:08] brendan0powers: ask #opensuse [02:13] anyone know how to get braodcom drivers for wifi? [02:16] Kage_Jittai: I was wondering if the kubuntu was going to adopt the patches [02:17] HELP. I bought a harmony 610. What can I use as IR reiceiver? where can I find documentation? === figgy42 is now known as figaro42 === pache is now known as la_poisse [02:27] p35/78 === MsMaco is now known as maco === alberto is now known as Guest81132 [02:48] #undernet === LjL-Temp is now known as LjL [03:35] Can anyone tell me why the effects of Compiz and Kwin cause graphical artifacts in OpenGL and SDL based software? [03:43] Zeikfried: usually these are due to bugs in the graphics drivers for your video card. Unfortunately they are out of the scope of both KWin and Compiz I'm afraid [03:50] anyone know how to get a broadcom wifi card to work? [03:50] Tweek900, your system already detected it? [03:50] nope [03:50] I know it has to do with composition effects. [03:50] I get the same issues in compiz and Kwin, as well as in vista and seven. [03:51] Intel 950 GMA issue i guess. [03:51] I can turn off compiz or Kwin and have no problem at all. [03:51] :( [03:51] i want wifi [03:51] I can even boot up into Openbox and it runs great. [03:52] Tweek900: Use Ndiswrapper and a winXP version of your driver and install your wi-fi that way. [03:52] Worked for my friend in Ubuntu 9.10 [03:52] idk how [03:52] i have the driver downloaded but how do i use it [03:52] Worked for me in Kubuntu 8.04 as well. [03:52] You need Ndiswrapper. [03:53] Zeikfried, the problem is that his lspci doesnt show up his card [03:53] :p [03:53] Mine didnt either. [03:53] I was still able to install the drivers and get it activated though. [03:55] arg i hate my internet [03:55] i have the drivers but i dont know how to use them [03:56] Zeikfried: ? [03:57] Oh sorry, was trying to find teh issue with compositing. [03:57] One sec, lemme find it. [03:58] This should be able to walk you through the problem. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper [04:01] alright 1 sec [04:13] Hey! I just booted up my comp today (last night I'd set aptitude safe-upgrade && shutdown) and the background was back to air, and all my widget/panels had dissapeared! [04:13] Now I'll have to re-configure the entire thing again. Is this some kind of bug or what? Does anyone have any idea? [04:44] can anyone help with kde-3.5.10 automount issues? Since going from intrepid to jaunty, none of my removable media (cd, usb) are autodetected as before. === root is now known as Guest84053 [05:01] I all [05:01] hallo [05:01] best way to get flash working on 64bit? [05:03] help: after dist-upgrade jaunty->karmic I reboot and I can't access the system! === Saiga is now known as Guest8793 === hemathor__ is now known as hemathor_ === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor [07:23] Seems disabling GRUB's boot splash fixed my shut-down issue (where it would just go to a blank screen with an active mouse cursor). [07:47] good morning [07:47] i have this wlan card: 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)... is it now a N card or not? [07:49] noaXess: yes [07:49] details are here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/298027/ [07:49] noaXess: what is your issue? [07:50] Kage_Jittai: but, i have a linksys WAP4400N accesspoint, but my N card will only connect with 54mbps, instead fo 300 [07:50] I see [07:50] not the issue I have :( [07:51] what is wrong with my intel 4965N card? [07:52] no idea === kb is now known as Guest62653 [08:04] can i load kubuntu onto a flash drive and then load it into a computer? [08:04] as a clean install? [08:04] !install [08:04] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [08:04] there should be instructions in those links [08:05] for flash? [08:10] is kubuntu designed for esay change over form windows? [08:10] esay=easy [08:10] form=from [08:11] ubuntu in general is, kubuntu is just a derivative of ubuntu with a different gui [08:12] i am on xubuntu now and like it, though i am curious as to what makes kubuntu different [08:12] is uses kde [08:12] i have heard but do not know what that is or how it changes my experience [08:13] kde is a desktop environment and comes with a host of integrated applications designed to make linux computing easier [08:13] one can say the same thing about gnome [08:14] so really it is the way the desktops looks and rolls out that is diffferent [08:14] it's a bit heaver than xfce, but it's pretty :) [08:14] try out the live CD [08:14] pretty indeed, and it has a different set of apps [08:14] (performance of the live cd won't be as good as an installed system though) [08:15] when installing bunut does one need to then install java? [08:15] hell0 [08:15] buntu i meant [08:16] you can install java via the package manager if you want it [08:16] yeah [08:16] i do some things dont work [08:16] is it sun java or the other one [08:16] hi there everyone [08:16] I went from Windows to Kubuntu last Saturday, and I'm loving it. Will never go back to Windows now. [08:17] Anyway, that was just a quick word on my part. I need to get to college. :P [08:17] ok ! [08:17] cya [08:17] java shouldn't really effect anything other than java stuff [08:17] you can choose sun java or one of the alternatives [08:17] are they already in here [08:17] or do i go get them [08:17] I'm not sure if it's pre-installed, but installing it is easy [08:18] hey anyone know how to fix choppy and slow flash vid on EEEbuntu [08:18] i heard sun java is better [08:18] taker0109 what browser are you using [08:18] firefox [08:19] and you already reinstalled flash? [08:19] yeah [08:19] i did it at different ocassions [08:20] hmm, did you try a different browser? [08:20] nah [08:20] should i [08:20] just to rule it out [08:20] did flash work before? [08:20] any suggestions [08:21] yeah [08:21] before i even updated it [08:21] opera is ok, chromium is good too [08:21] Balsaq: sun's java is more complete at the moment, but the the other version will be as complete once sun finish open-sourcing the rest of java [08:21] do i look it up on synaptic [08:21] ya [08:22] will do AngryKoala [08:22] i read that the virtual java machine has known security risks ...and sun doesn't tsimpsom [08:23] hi [08:23] yo beast [08:24] yeah [08:24] taker0109 ihad the same problem and i fixed it with aline command, looking thru my notes now... [08:24] was like sudo apt get non free or something... [08:25] brb [08:25] k [08:30] josh__: hi [08:31] josh__ hi [08:32] its quiet here today [08:32] thats probably a good sign since its the support channel [08:32] ha yea [08:32] AngryKoala: well I have a problem if you wanna help [08:33] go hhead [08:33] go for it, no promises ^^ [08:33] ubuntu 9.10 XD [08:33] my NetworkManager App doesn't see my wireless device [08:33] Kubuntu 9.04 [08:33] does iwconfig in terminal bring up wlan0? [08:33] AngryKoala: yes [08:34] ah ok. do you no what wirless card you have? [08:34] Intel [08:34] ah ok [08:34] it works, I can configure it manaually [08:34] do you have eny windows wirless drivers around? [08:34] no drivers needed since its already detected and installed? [08:34] oh ok [08:35] so you have connected to wirless networks b4 with it? [08:35] I am connected now [08:35] oh [08:35] but I had to connect by doing: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart [08:36] aww [08:36] ok [08:36] hmm [08:36] you use knetworkmanager? [08:36] and when wlan0 is pinging the DHCP server I do sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid NETGEAR [08:36] AngryKoala: I use the applet [08:36] no. im actualy useing ubuntu in a virtual machine [08:36] the plasmoid? [08:36] taker0109 you still here? [08:36] AngryKoala: yes [08:37] the plasmoid is broken [08:37] i did have it installed natively on my comp at one stage but i wanted me compy games lol [08:37] so when you click on it, it has no "enable wireless" [08:37] josh thats what dual booting is for [08:37] no, Ill show you what it says [08:37] nup im on a wired network [08:37] i do have wirless but seting up servers on this comp in vm's requires a wired connection [08:38] taker0109: in terminal, try this: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras [08:39] AngryKoala: http://imagebin.org/68628 [08:39] it was to much hassle going back and forth just to play a game i did have dual booting 4 a while [08:40] was xp a ubuntu 7.04 [08:40] i love ubuntu [08:40] i took the plonge and installed vista and havent had a problem since [08:40] vista is slow [08:40] well maby 4 u [08:41] but its pretty snappy for me [08:41] well at school [08:41] 3 gigs of ram [08:41] ah ok [08:41] they prob have cheapo crap lol [08:41] yeah u know what i mean [08:41] yeup [08:41] they b freezin all the time [08:42] Kage_Jittai, I assume you already tried reinstalling the app, but did you try the one in testing? my knetworkmanager doesnt work with wifi unless I use the newest beta builds [08:42] taker0109: did you get my message [08:42] i have never had a freeze with mine [08:42] im impressed with it [08:42] oh the command line one [08:42] i found the instructions that worked for me [08:42] yes taker0109 [08:42] AngryKoala: no [08:43] i want windows 7 rtm on the shelves already [08:43] my vids were slow and choppy taker0109 [08:43] mine are too [08:43] im installing chromium [08:43] taker0109 did you try my terminal command [08:43] chromium =D [08:44] taker0109 what distro are you using [08:44] im using EEEbuntu [08:44] jaunty [08:44] on a netbook? [08:44] yes [08:44] it runs pretty damn smooth [08:45] how is it i havent tryed it yet [08:45] really good [08:45] i look forwared to getting one [08:45] for some reason video used to be good until kernel update [08:45] i want a netbook then chuck ubuntu on it [08:45] NC10 here kde runs great [08:45] was there a drivr update? [08:46] yes and it messed it up [08:46] is their a way to go back [08:48] im using my netbook right now [08:48] AngryKoala: how would I install the beta app [08:49] Kage_Jittai isnt there a testing repo? or is it unstable? [08:49] looks like your not the only one that had that problem [08:49] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4 === administrator is now known as Guest24480 [08:49] no idea [08:50] is kubuntu a larger footprint, in its standard install state, then xubuntu? [08:50] yes [08:50] i think it is [08:50] is it bigger than ubuntu [08:50] no [08:50] xubuntu is designed to be lightweight for older hardware [08:50] idk [08:50] not necessarily older hardware, just lighter [08:51] so ubuntu is fattest, then kubuntu, xubuntu [08:51] well yes same diff lol [08:51] haha [08:51] lol [08:51] so far i did ubuntu, and now xubu [08:51] eny1 used mandriva? [08:51] xubu is like greased lightning [08:52] haha [08:52] i just don'tknow what is missing in this ...haven't noticed anything yet [08:52] why is it so fast [08:53] so when buntu folks speak of footprint, they mean more and more drivers pre-installed in the OS disc...right? [08:54] the size [08:54] yes [08:54] like a persons foot print. [08:54] so really is you have a nice size HD you may as well do ubuntu [08:54] big foot next to the small foot [08:54] not necessarily [08:54] oh no that doesnt make sence [08:54] xfce is very popular due to its minimalism [08:54] ok i still dont get it i guess [08:55] ubuntu uses gnome and kubuntu uses kde which are both described as heavy weight DE's [08:55] but i am in xfce and cant see the differenc exxcept xfce is fast [08:55] in fact, xfce in Xubuntu is middleweight [08:55] oh [08:55] oh what is the light one [08:55] openbox, fluxbox, enlightmenment... [08:56] flux [08:56] um no wm is the lightest lol [08:56] ok but when speaking of ubu xubu and kubub...is the little one [08:56] commmand line all the way [08:56] lol [08:56] haha [08:56] if you do that you might as well use gentoo [08:56] but that can have a wm aswell [08:57] yes, but doesnt come with one [08:57] debian base system [08:57] well i spose eny linux os can [08:57] true [08:57] i xubu debian [08:57] is [08:57] ubuntu is a cousin of debian [08:57] nah xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce [08:57] tryed slitaz? [08:57] is xubuntu a debian? [08:57] xfce is the lightsest DE so far [08:57] ubuntu is always a bit debian [08:58] xubuntu is an ubuntu derivative, ubuntu is a distanced derivative of debian [08:58] trying to figure out what i lost when i went xubu over ubu? [08:58] nothing if you like xfce [08:58] cant see or feel it [08:58] you lost gnome [08:58] :D [08:58] but who cares for gnome [08:58] kde ftw ^^ [08:58] yeah [08:59] xfce and gnome look the same [08:59] so [08:59] haha [08:59] errr lol [08:59] but if ubuntu is "bigger" i must of lost something [08:59] gnom [08:59] why no make the xfce the new gnome [08:59] e [08:59] josh__: cause of the gnomians [08:59] lol [08:59] ahahhha [08:59] ive been trying kde lately [09:00] 4.3.2 is cool [09:00] kde looks really good [09:00] i like gonme the best so far [09:00] kde came along way... it used to be teh suck [09:00] i like kde to [09:00] its like bmw and mercedes or lambo and ferrari [09:00] yeup [09:00] for some reason i like mndriva with kde the best [09:00] so kde is top of the line? [09:00] they sute each other lol [09:00] nah depends on youre interests [09:01] true [09:01] thats true [09:01] kde is more colored and rounded as gnome was in gtk times [09:01] you can have any app in any DE, it just depends on what Base you want [09:01] i startet in 1997 with kde [09:01] :D [09:01] wow [09:01] ick [09:01] i find gnome easyest to custermise tho [09:01] suse 5.x anything [09:01] :) [09:01] haha [09:01] difficult to determine what is missing from my OS as i went from ubuntu to xubu... [09:02] nothing is missing, you can install anything you would have had in gnome [09:02] weight? [09:02] lol [09:02] bloat basically [09:02] Balsaq: some big gtk libs [09:02] all eye candy is gone so far for you [09:02] thtas what bloats an DE [09:02] eycandy [09:02] ok so i lost eye candy no problem there thank you [09:02] :) [09:02] thats a fact [09:02] i dont use compiz actualy [09:02] i like the fat around the edges [09:03] i like my compiz maybe cause iam supporter [09:03] :D [09:03] just a simple 2 meg theme or what ever [09:03] i like lightweight as long as i have all the beef [09:03] i like compiz [09:03] i have bespin for kde4 [09:03] i used to do compiz, but kwin came with kde so eh [09:03] that is cool [09:03] is compiz fat? [09:03] nah [09:03] compiz fusion is [09:03] nah [09:03] compiz fudsio is dead [09:03] there is only compiz [09:03] re re merge [09:03] i had it on an old 800mhz compy yers ago [09:03] beryl [09:04] :) [09:04] its fat compared to others =/ [09:04] ghostcube: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [09:04] who is making all this stuff [09:04] wait thats the one i used [09:04] beryl [09:04] boah floodi is hard this morning :) [09:04] can i make up a distro? [09:04] compiz ? is made by the compiz coding ninjas :D [09:04] yay\ [09:04] ninjas [09:04] it must be good [09:04] lol [09:05] :D [09:05] XD [09:05] or it will just kill you [09:05] argh [09:05] heh it doesnt like all grafic cards the same way [09:05] :D [09:05] got lo love open gl [09:06] so light on the graphics cards [09:06] sotware ninjas...martian OS engineers...who are those guys? [09:06] ninjas are crazy coders doing othing else than coffee inside the brain and coding [09:06] :D [09:06] like ubuntu ninjas [09:06] well whoever it is they are damn good at it... [09:07] :) [09:07] better than windows [09:07] nah different windows is cool [09:07] without windows we wouldnt be where we are [09:07] thats a fact [09:07] i just did a fresh xp install upstairs and it ahs froze a couple times already...this one nver does [09:07] true, but evolution dictates it will die soon >=) [09:07] :D [09:07] win7 is ok [09:07] i tried it and must say its ok [09:07] ya, i have it on my netbook [09:08] not bad at all [09:08] i need it at work soon [09:08] windows was spawned from linux/unix [09:08] na [09:08] windoof is an bsd derivat [09:08] stolen from steve by billy [09:08]