[15:00] <barry> #startmeeting
[15:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 09:00. The chair is barry.
[15:00] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[15:00] <barry> hello everybody and welcome to this week's ameu reviewer's meeting.  who's here today?
[15:00] <henninge> me
[15:00] <beuno> me
[15:00] <sinzui> me
[15:00] <EdwinGrubbs> me
[15:00] <deryck> me
[15:01] <bac> me
[15:01] <barry> beuno: hi
[15:01] <beuno> hi barry
[15:02] <bigjools> me
[15:02] <barry> adeuring intellectronica gary-sprint leonardr salgado danilos ping
[15:02] <adeuring> me
[15:02] <intellectronica> me
[15:02] <gary-sprint> me
[15:02] <danilos> barry: otp, sorry
[15:03] <barry> gmb mars jml ping
[15:03] <barry> [TOPIC] agenda
[15:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  agenda
[15:03] <salgado> me
[15:03] <leonardr> me
[15:03] <barry> i'm hoping it will be a short meeting today :)
[15:03] <jml> barry, hi
[15:03] <barry> jml: hi!
[15:03] <barry>  * Roll call
[15:03] <barry>  * Action items
[15:03] <barry>  * UI review call update
[15:03] <barry>  * Peanut gallery (anything not on the agenda)
[15:03] <barry>  
[15:03] <barry>  
[15:03] <barry> [TOPIC] action items
[15:03] <MootBot> New Topic:  action items
[15:03] <barry>  * barry to get with mrevell on guidelines migration from old wiki to new
[15:03] <allenap> me
[15:04] <barry> done, actually!  well, in the sense that i chatted w/mrevell and he's going to work on the migration
[15:04] <mrevell> Mo0r:)
[15:04] <mrevell> oops
[15:04] <barry> so, thanks mrevell !
[15:04] <barry>  * intellectronica and barry to draft guidelines for drive-by cleanups
[15:04] <barry> not done
[15:04] <intellectronica> we missed it
[15:04] <barry> intellectronica: next time <wink>
[15:04] <intellectronica> may i suggest moving this to the list instead?
[15:05] <barry> intellectronica: +1.  would you like to take the first shot?  or i can.
[15:05] <intellectronica> i'm happy to do that
[15:05] <barry> intellectronica: thanks
[15:05] <barry> [ACTION] intellectronica to take drive-by discussion to mailing list
[15:05] <MootBot> ACTION received:  intellectronica to take drive-by discussion to mailing list
[15:05] <barry> [TOPIC]  * UI review call update
[15:05] <MootBot> New Topic:   * UI review call update
[15:06] <barry> intellectronica or beuno would you like to give us an update?
[15:06] <beuno> I have an interesting thing to paste into the channel
[15:06] <beuno> sinzui          12
[15:06] <beuno> rockstar        10
[15:06] <beuno> noodles         8
[15:06] <beuno> intellectronica 8
[15:06] <beuno> barry           6
[15:06] <beuno> kiko            1
[15:06] <beuno> danilo          1
[15:06] <beuno> "number of non-beuno ui reviews performed since the 1st of Sept"
[15:07] <barry> awesome
[15:07] <intellectronica> that's quite good, no? all ui reviewers are doing stuff
[15:07] <beuno> well, not really
[15:07] <sinzui> How did I win that? I ran form UI reviews after I blew a gasket
[15:07] <beuno> there are quite a few that are not doint at all
[15:07] <intellectronica> and even some that are not ui reviewers :)
[15:07] <gmb> me. Oops.
[15:07] <beuno> but, it's fantastic, yes
[15:08] <beuno> a *lot* of you doing amazing work
[15:08] <intellectronica> beuno: also, what period is it over? the numbers seem to me too low if it's for the whole time
[15:08] <beuno> so I'm super happy, and I use Launchpad as an example of super success everywhere else
[15:08] <beuno> intellectronica, since Sept 1st til today
[15:08] <barry> beuno: how did you calculate that?  i'm sure i did more than 6 ui* reviews
[15:09] <beuno> barry, bzr log -r date:2009-09-01.. | grep "ui=" | grep "ui=none" -vi | grep "ui=beuno" -vi | grep "ui=rs" -vi
[15:09] <beuno> it's not super precise, but a pretty good aproximation
[15:09] <bac> beuno: it doesn't include some mentored reviews of the form [ui=EdwinGrubbs, beuno]
[15:10] <jml> beuno, on which branch?
[15:10] <beuno> jml, devel
[15:10] <beuno> bac, yeah, I saw, hence the approximation  :)
[15:10] <bac> well, that one it would've.  yep
[15:10] <barry> beuno: it would be interesting to grep the merge proposals
[15:10] <deryck> credit junkies abound ;)
[15:10] <intellectronica> anyway...
[15:11] <beuno> barry, it would, but it requires more than 20 minutes  :)
[15:11] <beuno> yes
[15:11] <beuno> anyway
[15:11] <beuno> with those numbers
[15:11] <intellectronica> unless we need an accurate measure, would it suffice to say that there are lots of reviews and maybe even more than lots?
[15:11] <barry> :)
[15:11] <beuno> I'm going to graduate noodles when he comes back, after a call
[15:11] <beuno> and my next nominee to go through the process is sinzui, if he's willing
[15:11] <sinzui> beuno: I am willing.
[15:12]  * sinzui thinks several UI reviews are really hard because of context switching
[15:12] <beuno> great, so I'd encourage everyone to send ui reviews sinzui's way, and I will overlook them
[15:13] <intellectronica> i don't think there was anything terribly interesting in that call other than that, was there?
[15:13] <intellectronica> also francis sent notes to the list
[15:14] <beuno> of course, I meant "look at" rather than "overlook"  :)
[15:14] <barry> beuno: could you ask noodles to maybe send a message to the ml about his experience, how he worked with you and anything he learned that will help the next ui graduate?
[15:14] <beuno> barry, I will
[15:14] <barry> thanks!
[15:15] <barry> anything else on ui reviews?
[15:15] <intellectronica> i have something to say about windmill
[15:15] <jml> beuno, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/298297/
[15:15] <barry> intellectronica: go for it
[15:15] <jml> beuno, that bzr plugin does reviewer & mainline author counts
[15:15] <intellectronica> i've started using the new infrastrcture after not touching it for quite some time, and it rocks
[15:16] <intellectronica> hugs to bjorn for sorting this out, and everyone who didn't yet have the chance to take a look, you're in for a pleasant surprise
[15:16] <gary-sprint> BjornT should get to hear that :-)
[15:16] <gary-sprint> (and he's not around)
[15:16] <beuno> jml, thanks, I will get the stats again from there
[15:17] <intellectronica> gary-sprint: yes, appropriately i think he's in a conference about test automation :)
[15:17] <barry> intellectronica: very cool.  the old infrastructure was so painful
[15:17] <gary-sprint> :-)
[15:17] <barry> intellectronica: is there anything in the dev wiki that could use updating?
[15:18] <intellectronica> barry: the dev wiki is already up to date
[15:18] <barry> rock
[15:18] <barry> intellectronica: thanks for the update
[15:18] <barry> [TOPIC]  * Peanut gallery (anything not on the agenda)
[15:18] <MootBot> New Topic:   * Peanut gallery (anything not on the agenda)
[15:18] <barry> gary-sprint: would you like to give a brief update on our sprint?
[15:19] <barry> or i can do it :)
[15:19] <gary-sprint> barry: sure.  Thanks to barry, salgado, and maxb, we have a branch that works (test passing) on Python 2.5.
[15:19] <gary-sprint> This will not land until the LOSAs are ready to consume it
[15:19] <gary-sprint> Also coming from the sprint was a bunch of fixes for the current 2.4 build on Karmic
[15:20] <gary-sprint> We are now working on upgrading to newer versions of ZTK
[15:20] <bigjools> \o/
[15:20] <gary-sprint> on Py 2.5
[15:20] <gary-sprint> That is big and hard
[15:20] <gary-sprint> We will try to get it done, and then hopefully move back to Py 2.6
[15:20] <gary-sprint> We are not sure if we will get to that by the end of the week
[15:21] <gary-sprint> We will have a discussion this evening (Americas) as to what we think we can accomplish
[15:21] <barry> we have three branches.  all the gory details are here: https://dev.launchpad.net/PythonMigrationStatus
[15:21] <gary-sprint> LOSAs will probably not be able to let us land this for about a week and a half is my impression
[15:21] <gary-sprint> I have a discussion with Tom about this tomorrow
[15:22] <barry> gary-sprint: thanks
[15:22] <gary-sprint> They have been swamped, and though I sent them an email a while ago, I didn't make them answer me ;-)
[15:22] <gary-sprint> yeah, done.  :-) thank you
[15:22] <barry> i have nothing else on the agenda for today.  does anybody have anything?
[15:24] <barry> okay then, thanks everybody and have a great day
[15:24] <barry> #endmeeting
[15:24] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 09:24.
[15:24] <gary-sprint> thanks
[15:24] <intellectronica> thanks barry
[15:24] <bigjools> ta mate