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mersaultwell, unfortunately I don't think any of the Xen tools support grub2, so to boot a paravirtualized 9.10 domU, I think I'm going to have to try and pull off using grub-legacy00:00
cirdan_ElijahCMenifee: yes the only problem with it is it can't shrink, only grow00:01
oldude67mersault, well i think i remember someone saying there was a way to go back to it, and that its posted in the forums some where but not sure where.00:01
kosharihow does DeviceKit go detecting hotswapped sata disks?00:02
gcl_Argh, my sound card isn't appearing in the list of hardware devices in the sound preferences window. It was working perfectly in the live cd but after installing it isn't being detected anymore. Any ideas? I've tried compiling 1.0.21 from source but to no avail.00:03
SonorKajactually i tried to back to grub -legacy but I had some errors that forced me to reinstall grub2...don't recall exactly what now00:04
wirechieflots of information in these:00:04
wirechiefHave you looked at these?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2  also http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide00:04
wirechiefIntroduction00:04
wirechiefi think that Introduction belongs on the url line00:06
wirechiefim not exactly thrilled with grub2 but it looks like its here to stay.00:06
RussellAlandaily update = niiiiice00:08
Blueyif I am getting a "grub rescue" prompt - can I assume it will never work?00:09
wirechiefi wonder if the fix for ext4 and grub2 if there is a dirty shutdown has finally been put into the latest daily.00:09
Blueywell I am dead in the saddle...00:10
SonorKajupdate-grub00:11
* mersault reboots into his hopefully grub-legacied 9.1000:11
mersaultwe have liftoff!00:12
cirdangrats00:13
cirdanhmm i wish apt-get had a progress meter, so i knew how many packages were left00:13
RussellAlanHey guys, I know wrong forum for this question, but im in retard mode... how can i get ip for my nameservers? I can't seem to do it in name.com management00:13
mzzRussellAlan: you lost me at name.com00:14
RussellAlanlol00:14
RussellAlanhey mzz, how are you?00:14
mzzlost00:15
RussellAlanhah, uhm, i'm simple trying to find the ip of my nameservers.00:15
RussellAlanvia terminal or whatever.00:15
cirdanhmm didn't whois ns1.foo.com used to work?00:15
mzzwell, it depends on your definition of "mine"00:15
wirechiefive used 4.2.2.1 for a pinch, when i couldnt find mine, they are located in resolv.conf00:15
cirdanRussellAlan: cat /etc/resolv.conf?00:15
RussellAlanmzz: are you messing with me?00:15
mzzRussellAlan: do you mean you have a domain and your registrar needs to know the nameservers to use with it, or you have an internet connection and your os/programs need to know which ones to use to look up names?00:16
RussellAlancirdan: ?00:16
mzzRussellAlan: because for the former you'd have to run your own nameservers, or get someone to run them for you, while for the latter you want your *isp*s name servers :)00:16
RussellAlani, myself need the ip of 3 nameservers of, my own domain, so i can redirect a different domain to this ip00:16
cirdanwhois foo.com?00:16
mzzRussellAlan: then that depends on who's providing that service for you, and you should ask them, afaik00:16
RussellAlanright, i'll give a backlog... lol00:17
mzzalthough this kind of networking isn't really my area of expertise either00:17
RussellAlanthats not the problem, lol but thanks for your confusiong ;-)00:17
* cirdan wanders around lost00:17
RussellAlancirdan: yeah, that should work, i just have had not much sleep and too much to drink last night... brain went mush.00:17
mzz"whois" can tell you what the nameservers for the existing domain(s) are, but simply pointing one domain at different nameservers won't do what you want unless those domain servers know how to answer queries for the other domain00:18
RussellAlanI just like asking questions like this, because then i go into terminal and do work i normally wouldnt do.00:19
RussellAlannow that i think about it =D00:19
dakiraXorg Question: since the dontzap option is not available anymore (in karmic) and handled by XKB: How do I re-enable the good old ctrl-alt-+ (plus) combo which reset the resolution to the default (e.g. when a game didn't return from its 800x600 res)?00:20
RussellAlani love the new upgrade... it's the best yet because it jacked up my windows partition... which is what i needed00:20
dakiraRussellAlan: lol00:22
RussellAlan;-)00:22
RussellAlannice cover up huh?00:22
RussellAlanI found the Manage Name Servers button in my registrar00:23
jbuncherIs anyone running into Bug #449888?00:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 449888 in network-manager-applet "[karmic] network manager gnome does not remember wpa enterprise hidden network passwords over reboot, need to re-create network profile each time." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44988800:25
* BUGabundo $ echo sleep > /proc/sys/human/BUGabundo; reboot00:31
test34nautilus[2128]: segfault at 18 ip 00000000004cc67e sp 00007fffd2cd9ae0 error 4 in nautilus[400000+1ae000]00:31
test34while deleting 400 images00:32
tonyyarussoCould someone explain to me how I can use rsync to download the final ISO images after release with less bandwidth impact?00:32
tonyyarusso(I've heard other people say they've done that in the past)00:32
mzzbandwidth impact?00:32
mzzcompared to what?00:32
mzzI'd expect rsync to be comparable-ish to plain old ftp/http bandwidth-wise for this use case00:33
test34tonyyarusso, use torrent or some not busy mirrors00:34
Guest34396if you use it pre release it supposedly only downloads the changes to the disk, thus using less bandwidth00:34
tonyyarussomzz: compared to wget/http00:34
mzzrsync can do that if they're many files and only some of them changed00:34
tonyyarussotest34: The torrents take a while to get going on release day00:34
test34tonyyarusso, you could extract the iso and use rsync00:35
mzzno wait, apparently I lied00:35
mzzsec00:35
tonyyarussoI was under the impression rsync could "see" the changes inside of the ISO - I'm not aware of an extracted copy on the servers to compare against.00:35
test34(a previous ISO)00:35
tonyyarussoRight, I would be updating a daily build from earlier00:36
mzzstill, I wonder how well that works on the whole iso00:36
mzzI'd expect it to work fairly well on the files the iso is built out of, but am not aware of the iso being available for rsync unpacked00:37
* xrandr wants a 50" LCD flatscreen for his next monitor :) ... random thought for the day :)00:39
IndyGunFreakhow do you remove old entries in grub now?  seems menu.lst is gone00:40
mzzuninstall old kernels, rerun update-grub200:40
mzzerr, except the second step is automatic00:40
mzzmenu.lst is menu.cfg now, but it's normally autogenerated just like menu.lst was autogenerated00:40
xgurumenu.lst is now called grub.cfg    *i think*00:41
RussellAlanI just plugged in my media card (sdcard) and i got no confirmation it was loaded.00:41
RussellAlanwhere do i go to check that out?00:41
mzzerr, yes00:41
mzzxguru's right00:41
RussellAlani think my sdcard got corrupt some how, still runs on phone but cant recognize it in kubuntu or windows00:43
xgurubad sd drive?  got another chip to test?00:43
mzzanything interesting about it in dmesg?00:43
Blueydeep trouble - HELP00:44
IndyGunFreakwhere do you uninstall the old kernels.. synaptic?00:44
Blueyi accidentily installed 9.10 on my 1 t/b drive --00:44
mzzIndyGunFreak: your favorite apt frontend00:44
mzzIndyGunFreak: also, iirc the janitor can do it00:45
mzz(administration -> computer janitor, that is)00:45
IndyGunFreakhmm, i used to always use autoremove to remove them, but i guess that doesn't work anymore00:45
Blueynot a problem -but I don't want it there - ra gparted reformatted it, and when I try to boot off my hard drive with the 1 t/b drive disconnected, it goes into rescue mode...00:45
mzzIndyGunFreak: iirc by default ubuntu does something to get them not autoremoved. There are probably ways to undo said something, but I haven't really dug into that.00:45
RussellAlanWhats the package name for adobe air?00:46
IndyGunFreakmzz, yeah, no big deal, looks like janitor will do the trick.00:46
mzzBluey: reinstall grub on the regular drive, probably (just boot off a cd, chroot in, then set up grub as desired)00:46
IndyGunFreakhm, well now janitor is froze up.00:47
RussellAlanWhats the package name for adobe air?00:47
test34RussellAlan, no need to repeat00:48
Blueymzz: how to do re-run grub (i.e. what command do I give? grub install "/dev/hd0" ?00:48
RussellAlansorry.00:48
IndyGunFreakdoes adobe air have a linux version?00:49
RussellAlanThat's what it is for I believe, to be multi platform.00:49
virtuald!grub00:49
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto00:49
RussellAlanhttp://get.adobe.com/air/00:50
RussellAlanIndyGunFreak:00:50
xguruRussellAlan: i found how on 9.04 not saying it will work on karmic   http://www.sucka.net/2009/07/ubuntu-9-04-64bit-adobe-air-install/00:51
xguru*64bit as well00:51
IndyGunFreakRussellAlan, well it has a linux package, downloda and install it00:51
RussellAlanyeah i am trying, but i think that liist of commands xguru gave me is important.00:52
altavatarI noticed a new notification icon that's reporting that one of my drives has "many bad sectors" it lists the hd model #, but all my drives are the same model. How can i find out which actual device has issues?00:53
cuddlefishHello, everyone! I am using Ubuntu One with one UNR Karmic computer and one regular Karmic. Completely different hardware. Anyways, the system tray icon shows 2 arrows with a !, then changes to a cloud with a ! . It always wants me to reauthenticate. I've authenticated about 25 times now, with no luck. Help, please?00:53
Blueyit wants the file system - which is reiserfs how do I tell mount that?00:54
IndyGunFreakRussellAlan, it seems to be installing fine for me00:54
altavatarnvm, the HD Disk Utility shows all that data00:55
IndyGunFreakRussellAlan, what type of packages does it install?00:55
RussellAlansorry? I'm not sure I'll see here soon, I hope to get dreamweaver and photoshop running... without wine00:56
RussellAlanalthough I haven't successfully even used wine because I'm not sure how to point it to my volume.00:56
pepeehi00:56
RussellAlanHmm xguru, I installed it, but what do I do next?00:57
cuddlefishCan someone please help me?00:57
RussellAlanConfused.00:57
dakiraXorg Question: since the dontzap option is not available anymore (in karmic) and handled by XKB: How do I re-enable the good old ctrl-alt-+ (plus) combo which reset the resolution to the default (e.g. when a game didn't return from its 800x600 res)?00:57
xgurucuddlefish: when your talking about authenticating your talking about the webpage authentication?00:58
cuddlefishYep00:58
RussellAlanAt this point you should now be able to Run the Adobe Air Application Installer located in your Applications > Accessories menu.  From there you can choose the *.air installation file you wish to install.00:58
xgurusay it isn't your.....relogin and save password....ignore the fact that it thinks it knows you already00:58
RussellAlan??00:58
mzzdakira: I haven't needed to switch resolutions recently, but if for some reason ctrl+alt+something doesn't do it try "xrandr -s 0" in a term, iirc00:58
cuddlefishNot only is U1 dead, but now firefox launches at each boot.00:59
IndyGunFreakRussellAlan, so where can i download a .air file to try it?00:59
RussellAlanIndyGunFreak: we're in the same boat =D00:59
IndyGunFreaklol00:59
IndyGunFreakit seems to have worked fine though, i've got a menu entry for it and what not01:00
xguruRussellAlan: if you installed it correctly, air will be located right where you said it would.  Application-Accessories01:00
RussellAlanwhere is the menu entry?01:00
RussellAlanI dont have an Application-Accessories in my menu lol01:00
cuddlefishWhoa, time travel.01:00
dakiramzz: IIRC xrandr doesn't work with nvidia drivers01:00
mzzah, I don't have any of those01:00
bjsniderxrandr 1.2 has not been added yet01:01
RabidWeezlewhat's up with flash-nonfree on x64?01:01
RabidWeezlejust locks up my firefox :(01:01
dakiramzz: yep.. doesn't do anything ;)01:01
pepeesomeone can give me recommendations for configuring my xorg.conf? -> Radeon 2100, ubuntu karmic01:01
xguruRussellAlan: why don't you have the Applications menu?01:01
dakiramzz: nobody in #xorg cares to reply.. that channel is obviously dead ;)01:01
RussellAlanI have Applications men xguru, just not accessories01:02
cuddlefishPlease, somebody, help.01:02
RussellAlanits under Utilities01:02
RabidWeezlenevermind it's working now :/01:02
mzzdakira: that channel usually doesn't care about closed-source drivers (see its /topic)01:02
xguruRussellAlan: so you found it then?01:03
RussellAlanxguru: yessur01:03
xgurugood deal....01:03
virtualdpepee: if you need one, make it minimal01:03
xgurucuddlefish: i need more info to help01:03
RussellAlanxguru: Hmm although, what do I do? I guess dreamweaver or photoshop aren't meant for air?01:03
Blueygot it many thanks01:04
cuddlefishI am using Ubuntu One with one UNR Karmic computer and one regular Karmic. Completely different hardware. Anyways, it always wants me to reauthenticate. I've authenticated about 25 times now, with no luck. I can SUCCESFULLY sync with "u1sync" but not through the GUI. On one of my boxes, it says it succeeds but does nothing. On the other, the system tray icon shows 2 arrows with a !, then changes to a cloud with a !01:05
xguruRussellAlan: not sure...01:05
dakiramzz: I didn't mention any drivers in my question.. I only asked how I can re-enable ctrl-alt-plus01:05
mzzah01:05
mzzwell, still see its topic01:05
cuddlefishThat enough info?01:07
mzzdakira: fwiw: ctrl+alt+minus seems to at least be picked up by X correctly out of the box here01:07
xgurucuddlefish: i haven't had that problem.  Doesn't make sense.  I will do some looking for a solution01:08
mzzdakira: needs me to hit the keypad minus, not the regular one, and I only see it blink the screen once, because I only have one resolution configured01:08
xgurucuddlefish: i haven't had that problem.  Doesn't make sense.  I will do some looking for a solution01:10
xguruoops...sorry for the repeat01:11
dakiramzz: good to know.. thx!01:14
RabidWeezlewoah, audacious 2 rocks01:15
RabidWeezlelike old school xmms with a new gtk2 look01:15
xrandrits way too xmms-ish01:18
* xrandr likes Songbird01:18
RabidWeezleo_O01:18
RabidWeezlexmms is ftw01:18
xrandrmore iTunes-ish01:18
* xrandr shakes his fist @ apple... why haven't you made iTunes for linux?!?!01:18
RabidWeezlebecause we don't need it? xD01:18
RabidWeezlejust kidding01:20
RabidWeezlethere is no excuse for it01:20
RabidWeezlethey can borrow from opensource, but they can't give back, that's just how it is01:20
bjsniderwhy should apple produce a linux build of itunes?01:23
bjsniderand why on earth would linux users want or need it?01:23
bjsniderthe very suggestion reeks of insanity01:23
ArkoldThosbjsnider, for selling us music with itunes store01:23
ArkoldThos:p01:23
bjsnideryou sure don't need it to communicate with your ipod if you're unfortunate enough to own one01:24
bjsniderArkoldThos, put me at the head of the line for that01:24
* RabidWeezle owns a psp if he wants to listen to music on the road :/01:24
ArkoldThosunfortunate? there aren't many portable music things that are actually good :p01:25
RabidWeezlezune?01:25
ArkoldThosipod isn't that good but does its job01:25
ArkoldThoszune 2 pwns :) sadly no zune outside usa01:25
RabidWeezleebay?01:25
ArkoldThosshipping :p01:25
bjsnidertry the cowon iaudio01:25
bjsniderlisten to music in any format01:25
RabidWeezlethere's an open mp3 player you solder together yourself :)01:26
ArkoldThosthat would be cool :)01:26
RabidWeezlemake your own firmware if you want01:26
ArkoldThosi want that open mobile phone01:26
ArkoldThoshow it is named...01:26
ArkoldThosopenmoko01:26
CPrgmSwR2Is there a hardware expert here for kubuntu01:26
RabidWeezleI just got off kubuntu, switched to studio :/01:26
ArkoldThoswhat you mean with hardware expert? xd01:26
RabidWeezleCPrgmSwR2, just ask the question bud, we will answer it if we know01:27
CPrgmSwR2I am pretty computer savy and wanted to see if I could solve my sound problem01:28
CPrgmSwR2I filed a bug for it01:28
CPrgmSwR2#45591201:28
ArkoldThoslets see01:28
bjsniderCPrgmSwR2, the sound expert is dtchen/crimsun01:29
ArkoldThosdamn internet is slow :p launchpad is taking years to open01:29
mzzlaunchpad's not all that fast frequently01:30
ArkoldThosCPrgmSwR2, got it working on jaunty?01:30
CPrgmSwR2yes01:30
ArkoldThosCPrgmSwR2, try this, may or may not work but try it doesn't do nothing :p01:30
ArkoldThossudo alsa force-reload01:30
ArkoldThosthen open alsamixer and unmute all01:31
CPrgmSwR2ArkoldThos: thnx, however that did nothing01:33
ArkoldThos:( worked here :p01:33
ArkoldThoshave to do that each reboot01:33
* Polarina can't wait for 10.4.01:34
ArkoldThoswhat is on the roadmap?01:34
CPrgmSwR2Polarina: nothing to wait for realy01:35
ArkoldThosnvm, i'll see01:35
PolarinaWhy? Maybe at least they will fix my sound card driver! It's been broken since 8.04.01:35
CPrgmSwR2Polarina: what sound card?01:35
ArkoldThosrofl01:35
ArkoldThoswill be a paying distro?01:35
PolarinaCPrgmSwR2: Some card on my laptop.01:35
CPrgmSwR2is it a HP NVidia MCP67 sound card?01:36
PolarinaI don't remember.01:36
PolarinaI'd have to boot it and check.01:36
PolarinaOne moment.01:36
CPrgmSwR2wait01:36
CPrgmSwR2type in lspci01:36
ArkoldThosnvm, read smth of december 28, damn fools01:36
PolarinaI know, I am booting.01:36
CPrgmSwR2oh01:37
CPrgmSwR2I thought you said reboot01:37
Polarina:P01:37
CPrgmSwR2Maybe I should go by myself an HP labtop01:38
CPrgmSwR2oops01:38
RPG_MasterWhy do some buttons lag?01:38
RPG_Masterwhen I click them01:38
CPrgmSwR2a DELL linux laptop01:38
PolarinaCPrgmSwR2: 00:1b.0 Audio Device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)01:39
CPrgmSwR2ah okay01:40
ArkoldThosPolarina, got the same one01:40
ArkoldThosyou got problems using it?01:40
PolarinaArkoldThos: Yes.01:40
ArkoldThossec, i have done a guide on my blog01:40
PolarinaHurray! :D01:40
ArkoldThoshttp://arkold.com/825-intel-audio-issue-fix-in-karmic-koala01:40
ArkoldThosworked for me not sure there01:40
ArkoldThos00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)01:40
PolarinaArkoldThos: If this works, I'll mail you a dollar.01:40
ArkoldThosis almost the same D:01:41
bjsnideryou shouldn't need a guide to making a simple oboard sound chip work. it should work automatically and without need for adjustment01:41
ArkoldThosdoesn't work correctly while updated to karmic D:01:42
PolarinaArkoldThos: I don't have that line in my alsa-base.conf.01:42
CPrgmSwR2apparently karmic broke a few sound cards with what ever it updated01:42
ArkoldThosthen add it :p01:42
PolarinaArkoldThos: Your blog says to comment it out.01:43
ArkoldThoslets see xd01:43
ArkoldThosoh true D:01:43
ArkoldThoswell do the other stuff then :p01:43
PolarinaWhat stuff?01:43
ArkoldThossudo alsa force-reload01:43
ArkoldThosthen go alsamixer and unmute it01:44
PolarinaAlsamixer doesn't work.01:45
ArkoldThospuff :(01:45
bjsniderdoes the sound chip work if you just boot a karmic livecd?01:46
bjsniderupgrades don't always work as well as clean installs01:47
CPrgmSwR2bjsnider: I have a clean install01:47
PolarinaIn Ubuntu 7.10 I had to add "options snd-hda-intel model=acer" (it's a mitac computer), but that doesn't work anymore.01:47
PolarinaIt hasn't in 8.04, 8.10 nor 9.04 (I haven't tested 9.10 yet).01:47
bjsniderCPrgmSwR2, with an intel hd audio card?01:47
CPrgmSwR2bjsnider: no hp01:48
CPrgmSwR2oops01:48
CPrgmSwR2bjsnider: nvidia sound card01:48
bjsnideryeah01:48
bjsniderwhen buying a laptop, try to avoid anything that's not intel01:48
bjsnidernvidia chipsets, nvidia sound chips, nvidia network chips, anything but the graphics cards are suspect01:49
ArkoldThosalways avoid that :o many problems with them01:49
PolarinaOh, my, god, it actually works (it didn't when 9.04 was released). :S01:49
ArkoldThosas far i know nforce chipset will be deprecated01:49
ArkoldThosPolarina, =)01:49
ArkoldThoswhat did you add?01:49
bjsnideryes i think they've given up on nforce now01:49
bjsnidernvidia i mean01:49
CPrgmSwR2bjsnider: really01:49
PolarinaArkoldThos: options snd-hda-intel model=acer01:49
CPrgmSwR2bjsnider: so basically nvidia is no longer linux freindly01:50
ArkoldThosokay :o got an acer pc?01:50
bjsniderCPrgmSwR2, they recently announced they're getting out of the chipset business, IIRC01:50
ArkoldThosCPrgmSwR2, never was :p01:50
ArkoldThostheir chipset aren't that good since a long time ago01:50
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PolarinaArkoldThos: No, Mitac.01:50
ArkoldThosoki01:50
PolarinaNow to figure how to boost the volume.01:51
ArkoldThosalsamixer01:51
Polarinaalsamixer doesn't work, it refuses to start.01:51
CPrgmSwR2bjsnider: so does that mean I will no longer have sound in linux01:52
bjsniderdo you have it now?01:52
CPrgmSwR2bjsnider: no01:52
bjsniderthat's the real question01:52
CPrgmSwR2but I had it in 9.0401:52
bjsnidersomebody will get angry and make a driver for it that works, but it might take 270 years01:52
ArkoldThosPolarina, happened to a friend, install alsamixer gui01:52
PolarinaArkoldThos: http://codepad.org/3A3HS2RV01:52
bjsniderand by that time you'll likely be either dead or extremely sedentary01:53
CPrgmSwR2but then how did it work in the past?01:54
bjsniderwell, alsa changes01:54
CPrgmSwR2I guess I don't understand why the support for the driver gets deprecated01:54
bjsnideras dtchen would say, pulseaudio uses more features of sound chips, exposing weaknesses in the underlying drivers01:54
Rotund2Is anyone else not able to start couchdb?01:55
Rotund2I'm not sure if I broke it or not01:55
ArkoldThosPolarina, unplug the headphones and speakers01:56
ArkoldThosand try to open alsamixer01:56
mzzyou broke it01:56
mzzRotund2: there was an update recently that was supposed to unbreak it01:56
PolarinaArkoldThos: I have no headphones plugged in.01:56
ArkoldThoshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50351401:56
Rotund2mzz: just got it... still throws up on startup01:57
Rotund2mzz: updated couch and erlang01:57
mzzhum01:57
mzzRotund2: I'm not running it myself though01:57
CPrgmSwR2is pulseaudio something new in kubuntu 9.1001:58
mzzCPrgmSwR2: iirc kubuntu doesn't pull in pulse by default01:58
mzzI could be wrong about that, I don't run kubuntu myself either01:58
mzzRotund2: fails how?01:58
Rotund2mzz:root@joe-laptop:/var/log/couchdb# couchdb01:59
Rotund2Apache CouchDB 0.10.0 (LogLevel=info) is starting.01:59
Rotund2{"init terminating in do_boot",{{badmatch,{error,shutdown}},[{couch_server_sup,start_server,1},{erl_eval,do_apply,5},{erl_eval,exprs,5},{init,start_it,1},{init,start_em,1}]}}01:59
Rotund2Crash dump was written to: erl_crash.dump01:59
Rotund2init terminating in do_boot ()01:59
mzzhmm01:59
Rotund2It takes a second before the crash dump appears... only about a second02:00
mzzRotund2: the debian changelog mentions "create /var/log/couchdb so that couchdb installs/runs"02:00
mzzRotund2: did that actually happen on your system?02:00
Rotund2mzz: yeah, though the permissions seemed high so I 777ed it to test... still broke02:01
mzzRotund2: I guess you need to find someone who speaks erlang and can decipher that error message, or possibly strace it and look for anything suspicious02:01
PolarinaArkoldThos: The speakers work, but when I plug a headset to the computer, it won't work.02:02
CPrgmSwR2mzz: so am I just SOL then for sound02:02
mzzCPrgmSwR2: I haven't been paying attention to the issue you're actually having, lemme skim my backlog02:02
CPrgmSwR2basically I have no sound02:02
mzzCPrgmSwR2: so does alsa see the card?02:03
mzzCPrgmSwR2: wait, lemme start from the top02:03
Rotund2mzz: /var/log/couchdb/0.10.0 wasn't made... fixed02:03
CPrgmSwR2I think so02:03
mzzCPrgmSwR2: is pulse installed and running (it's ok if it's not!)02:03
CPrgmSwR2yes its installed02:03
ArkoldThosPolarina, plug the headset where the speakers get plugged02:03
ArkoldThosD:02:03
CPrgmSwR2#44591202:03
mzzRotund2: fun. Might want to check out/comment on bug 453049 afaik02:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 453049 in couchdb "couchdb fails to install because /var/log/couchdb does not exist" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45304902:03
Rotund2mzz: will do02:04
mzzCPrgmSwR2: is it also running (again, it's ok if it's not? In fact I somewhat prefer it not to be :)02:04
PolarinaArkoldThos: ? The speakers are built-in.02:04
CPrgmSwR2mzz: how do I find out02:04
mzzCPrgmSwR2: something like "ps ax|grep pulse" should do02:04
* pilif12p sighs02:04
ArkoldThosoh02:04
pilif12p^^Wrong network02:05
CPrgmSwR2mzz: yes its running02:05
Rotund2CPrgmSwR2, it's not an HP dv3 laptop is it?02:05
CPrgmSwR2its an HP dv9000 laptop02:05
petafileI'm trying to install libmpich2 on karmic and I get this error any ideas how to fix it?  update-alternatives: error: alternative mpic++ can't be slave of mpi: it is a slave of mpicc02:05
mzzCPrgmSwR2: bah. Does pulse think you have a sound card (I don't know where a pulse-enabled volume control hides if you're running kde, if it doesn't have one consider installing and running pavucontrol)02:05
pilif12pmzz: You should know what i'm sighing about, check moznet02:05
pilif12pDo killall pulseaudio02:05
pilif12pi think02:05
mzzpilif12p: I'm in 30ish channels there. Can you be more specific?02:05
pilif12pheh02:05
pilif12pthe sumo one02:06
pilif12pnot dev02:06
CPrgmSwR2done02:06
pilif12pAnd you're in 24 ;)02:06
mzzCPrgmSwR2: might want to just temporarily shut down pulse and see if "alsamixer" and "aplay" can use the card02:06
CPrgmSwR2nothing02:07
CPrgmSwR2I have download a wav file that I keep trying to play02:08
CPrgmSwR2using #aplay duckjob.wav02:08
mzzCPrgmSwR2: does alsamixer see a somewhat reasonable number of channels, and are they unmuted?02:08
mzzCPrgmSwR2: also try messing around with any switches alsamixer sees02:08
CPrgmSwR2mzz: everything is on02:08
mzzCPrgmSwR2: ok, then I'd start hunting for reports from others with similar hardware02:08
CPrgmSwR2mzz: I have tried and I cannot find anything02:09
mzzCPrgmSwR2: remember pulse uses alsa for sound playback, but also normally sets up a plugin that causes regular apps that try to use alsa to be rerouted through pulse (at least that was done by default in the past)02:09
mzzCPrgmSwR2: so I'd start with temp-disabling pulse and getting just alsamixer and aplay to work02:10
CPrgmSwR2mzz: thats what i have been trying to do02:10
mzzCPrgmSwR2: what does /proc/asound/cards look like?02:10
PolarinaArkoldThos: I changed the model to "basic" and it works perfectly now. :)02:10
CPrgmSwR2mzz: if you take a look at but #45591202:11
CPrgmSwR2there are a bunch of attachements with that informaiton02:11
mzzubottu: bug 45591202:11
ArkoldThosokay, will add that to my site for people that needs iT =)02:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 455912 in alsa-driver "NVidia MCP67 Audio Device - No Sound - Kubuntu 9.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45591202:11
mzzmeh, silly slow launchpad02:11
PolarinaArkoldThos: "options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=1 model=basic"  (Not sure if that probe_mask is required).02:12
CPrgmSwR2 0 [NVidia         ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia02:12
CPrgmSwR2thats all that is listed02:12
CPrgmSwR2is that normal02:12
ArkoldThosbasic" ? not "basic"?02:12
ArkoldThosis the same shit x.x why i ask D:02:12
ArkoldThosaddded to my post02:13
hudnixwhee... upgrade complete.02:13
mzzCPrgmSwR2: I'm guessing you tried with IEC958 off too?02:13
CPrgmSwR2mzz: let me try again02:13
Clark3934My upgrade is hanging and my screen is flashing.  Is there a good place to get some help?  I don't want to crash my system on reboot.02:14
CPrgmSwR2mzz: tired with all different combinations of IEC958 on and off02:15
CPrgmSwR2mzz: should I try downoad obsolute drivers02:18
CPrgmSwR2nevermind its already installed02:18
CPrgmSwR2is it prehaps that I am using the amd64 version that could be my problem02:19
mzzCPrgmSwR2: possible there's an issue with this hardware. I'd search for others with the same (or very similar) hardware02:23
CPrgmSwR2there is one for MCP6102:24
CPrgmSwR2I am very surprized at how well the wireless works02:25
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panfisthey, anyone know how karmic is on the acer aspire one?02:40
Clark3934Hung on upgrade using upgrade-manager.  Gnome (compiz?) is slowly pulsing from dark to light grey every ~15s or so.  What does this mean?02:41
HillshumIs there a way to find the signal coming from the touch-sensitive buttons at the top of my keyboard?02:48
IndyGunFreakClark3934, whatever it means, probably not good02:49
IndyGunFreakCPrgmSwR2, well, it depends on your wireless device..w hats your device02:50
Clark3934@IndyGunFreak, it's hanging on "Searching for obsolete software", specifically "Processing triggers for pythong support ...".  What's the best way to get out of this situation with out (potentially) breaking my system?02:52
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sykim trying to edit grub.cfg by doing sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg but when i save it, it tells me could not save you are trying to save the file on a read-only disk02:59
IdleOnesyk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#grub.cfg (/boot/grub/grub.cfg)03:00
sykah ty03:00
IndyGunFreaki really don't understand why they switched to grub2.. seems kinda silly03:02
DaZswitch back to 1 and live a happy life03:05
oldude67i have a feeling with them switching to grub2 that there is a big change that is probably going to happen.03:10
oldude67but of course , me coming from slack, and being use to lilo. i still have issues with grub.03:10
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jjardonDevhelp 2.28 (part of gnome 2.28) is not included in karmic, is there any reason for this?03:12
oldude67jjardon, i dont know for sure, but i have been having issues with gnome for a while..broken packages and all.03:13
jjardonI've filled a bug for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devhelp/+bug/45186403:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 451864 in devhelp "Please sync devhelp 2.28 from debian sid" [Wishlist,New]03:14
oldude67well lets see if we can make her crash..havent done it for a while..wish me luck..lmao03:16
jjardonoldude67, that is normal, karmic is a beta ;). The problem is devhelp is part of gnome 2.28 ... don't know why it's not in karmic yet :(03:16
oldude67jjardon, probably to busy working on trying to get gnome 3 out.03:17
webbb182i just opened update manager and it wants to do a partial update what should i do03:18
jjardonoldude67, devhelp 2.28 is already released03:19
jjardonbut ubuntu don't packet it03:19
webbb182is it safe to do a partial03:20
webbb182i just did apt-get -f install but that only found 2 things03:20
oldude67i avoid the partials like the plague.03:21
webbb182tthis is what -f instll found   libopenjpeg2 libdirac0c2a03:21
webbb182there is 226 files in the partial upgrade that doesnt seem rite03:23
webbb182but if i run apt-get upgrade it doesnt say anything about a partial upgrade  so is that mean its not partial03:24
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webbb182any advice?03:30
jjardonwebbb182, try with sudo aptitude upgrade03:32
webbb182The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:03:33
webbb182  libsctp103:33
webbb182227 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 2 to remove and 1 not upgraded.03:33
webbb182Need to get 132MB of archives. After unpacking 3,375kB will be freed.03:33
webbb182Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]03:33
webbb182sorry03:33
webbb182the update man ager called it a partial but just now it doesnt say anything about a partial03:34
mzzwebbb182: afaict what this "partial" thing means is that to upgrade everything to the latest package some (conflicting) package would have to be uninstalled03:34
webbb182should i do a apt-get auto remove then upgrade? or what03:35
mzzwebbb182: if you tell the update manager to do a partial upgrade it should (afaik) tell you what it's about to do before it does it (including telling you what it wants to remove)03:35
mzzyou can decide if the upgrade is safe then03:35
ArsinWhat are the updates in 9.1?03:35
mzz10, not 103:35
mzz(hint: it's october, not january)03:36
mzzalso, the release notes list some highlights03:36
webbb182mzz, it doesnt say it wants to remove anythin but yet it still says partial03:38
mzzwebbb182: I forgot what the exact wording of this update manager dialog was, but iirc it offered to continue with a regular update or do something else, and it warns you about the something else being dangerous03:39
mzzwebbb182: can you tell me what the dialog says?03:39
aprilharehello03:40
aprilharedoes anyone know why update-manager wants to remove gstreamer0.10-schroedinger?03:40
webbb1821 package is gong to be removed , 4 are going to be installed and 228 are goping to be updated03:40
mzzwebbb182: yeah, that's the one. Which one is going to be removed?03:41
aprilharelet me guess: gstreamer0.10-schroedinger03:41
webbb182gstreamer03:41
webbb182lol03:41
mzzwebbb182: because it got moved into gst-plugins-bad03:41
mzzerr, that's the name from a different distro03:41
aprilhareoh sweet! no worries :)03:41
* aprilhare will upgrade away now03:41
mzzgstreamer0.10-plugins-bad I meant03:42
webbb182so its safe to do the upgrade03:42
mzzyes03:42
aprilharemzz: followed you first time :)03:42
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webbb182mzz, thank you03:42
mzzerr, or maybe not03:42
aprilharehopefully this upgrade will make me breakfast. or at least brunch.03:42
* mzz doublechecks03:42
mzzanyway, ah, it's in there anyway03:43
mzz(I was checking for libgstschroedinger.so, but the plugin's called libgstschro.so)03:44
aprilharewhy the plugin is named schroedinger is anyones guess :)03:51
Rotund2cuz he had a cat03:51
aprilharea potentially abused cat :)03:52
Rotund2yeah, but can you know without causing the abuse?03:52
aprilharerob0: thought that was old schroedinger's job :)03:53
aprilharebrb rebooting03:54
aliendude5300Hi guys, I have a HUGE problem after updating to Karmic on my netbook03:56
aliendude5300My touch pad works on the login screen, and on a failsafe terminal.03:57
aliendude5300The second gnome-session starts I lose all control of the mouse and the pointer freezes03:57
aliendude5300but all key shortcuts work. Only the mouse is broken.03:57
aliendude5300My netbook is an Asus Eee PC 1000HA.03:58
aliendude5300I installed a fresh install of Jaunty Netbook Remix and upgraded straight to Karmic.03:58
aliendude5300Any ideas?03:58
rob0just curious, did you use an external CD drive, or convert the CD to USB?03:59
rob0s/CD/ISO/03:59
aliendude5300I installed using the official USB installer on a 1GB flash drive.03:59
rob0oh you said Jaunty04:00
rob0and upgraded, I see now04:00
aliendude5300Yes. But I then upgraded directly to Karmic from default install04:00
rob0when you said "fresh" I was thinking a fresh Karmic04:00
mzzaliendude5300: tried a fresh user account or guest session?04:01
aliendude5300mzz: Not yet, I could add a user with terminal... I'll try that and see what happens.04:01
mzzaliendude5300: if a fresh session works it might be interesting to copy your regular users dotfiles into the new user homedir, check the problem now occurs there, then start logging out, removing some dotfiles and logging back in until the problem goes away04:02
aliendude5300I changed no settings from default install other than installing flash player and transmission.04:03
mzzit's a bit crude but might be the fastest way of figuring out what's involved, unless someone has more specific ideas04:03
aliendude5300This should be fixed before karmic is ruled out.04:03
mzzI know, but you did log in using that account using jaunty, if only to start the upgrade04:03
mzzI'm not saying it's not a bug, I'm saying this may give you more information about what's involved04:03
aliendude5300ok, user "test" created.04:03
aliendude5300trying to log in now.04:04
aliendude5300same problem on fresh user.04:04
mzzoh, interesting04:04
aliendude5300I'm gonna use alt-printscr-k to log out now since I can't do anything.04:04
mzzif you log into failsafe mode, confirm the mouse works, and then start gnome-settings-daemon, does the mouse break?04:05
aliendude5300Starting failsafe xterm, mouse works. If you start gnome-session, it breaks it. I'm unsure of settings-daemon04:05
mzzI'd expect gnome-session to start gnome-settings-daemon but not vice versa04:06
aliendude5300I'll try it.04:06
aliendude5300In failsafe xterm now04:07
aliendude5300yes, it freezes the mouse.04:07
mzzcan you ctrl+c gnome-settings-daemon?04:07
aliendude5300gnome-session does not start.04:07
aliendude5300will try.04:07
mzznot sure if that'll give you your mouse back though, bleh04:07
aliendude5300no... but only because my mouse pointer is not over the terminal corner of the screen...04:08
aliendude5300I have to redo this :/04:08
mzz:(04:08
mzzbefore you run gnome-whatever again:04:08
mzzif you use gconf-editor to turn off /apps/gnome_settings_daemon/plugins/mouse/active, does running gnome-settings-daemon still break?04:08
mzzI'd expect this to work around it, but you'd still want to figure out what it's doing that breaks04:09
aliendude5300Hitting Ctrl-C does not restore muse functionality. I'll try pkill.04:09
mzznah, I bet that won't do it either04:09
aliendude5300nope. That fails too.04:09
aliendude5300will try gconf-editor.04:09
aliendude5300ffs cant use mouse... have to log in again.04:10
mzzyeah, that gets old fast, I've done this kind of thing before04:10
aliendude5300Ok, I'm in gconf-editor right now.04:10
webbb182is anyone els in here having alot of trouble ubuntu-one     mine will freeze or suck all the ram from my computer04:11
aliendude5300settings set.04:11
aliendude5300webbb182: Mine also has the same problem, but not on my netbook, only on my ,main PC.04:11
mzzI don't use ubuntu one04:12
aliendude5300But I think I figured out why, the problem is in the process gvfs-metadata04:12
aliendude5300It has a memory leak that needs fixed.04:12
webbb182ubuntu one or dropbox04:12
aliendude5300But for now, I need to fix my touch pad...04:12
rob0Alien, From what you have said, I would guess there's a driver issue with the touchpad.04:12
mzzrob0: err, it works in failsafe mode04:12
zmjjmzanyone here use a dell mini 9?04:13
mzzrob0: sounds like gnome-settings-daemon or a related process is doing something screwy with the driver's settings (I suspect the xinput props)04:13
aliendude5300also, it works in gdm04:13
zmjjmzif so, have you gotten suspend working?04:13
rob0Synaptics?04:13
mzzpresumably04:13
mzzI'm going to diff those props pre- and post-gnome-settings-daemon next04:13
aliendude5300mzz: your workaround fixed it.04:13
mzzaliendude5300: ok, mind doing a bit more debugging to figure out what's going on? :)04:13
aliendude5300I can move the mouse after running gnome-settings-daemon.04:13
tiger2wanderHow difference of System-V using inside Karmic?04:13
aliendude5300mzz: nope.04:13
aliendude5300I'll help out :D04:14
mzzaliendude5300: run "xinput list", I'm guessing you have one synaptics device listed. Remember its id, and run "xinput list-props 8 > /tmp/good" (replace 8 with the right id)04:14
[Shawn]Whats the command to fix Nvidia-Settings X server on Karmic again?04:14
mzzaliendude5300: then break your mouse again and run "xinput list-props 8 > /tmp/bad"04:14
tiger2wanderI just used sysv-rc-config to on/off some service like: apache2, mysql but seen it not affect04:15
mzzaliendude5300: (note that I expect toggling that pref in gconf while gnome-settings-daemon is running to break your mouse instantly)04:15
mzzaliendude5300: then "diff -u /tmp/{good,bad} | pastebinit"04:15
aliendude5300ffs... I broke the mouse again by clicking enable, and now I can't export it in this session :/04:16
aliendude5300this is a pain.04:16
mzzyeah :(04:16
mzzobviously your "good" export remains usable04:16
mzzI'd also expect the id to be stable, but you might want to doublecheck that04:17
aliendude5300mzz: what is the right id?04:17
aliendude5300how do I check that?04:17
aliendude5300I think it's 6...04:18
aliendude5300ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad04:18
mzzwell, on my system it's 8, because "xinput list|grep -i synaptics" gives me "SynPS/2 Synaptics Touchpad" id=804:18
aliendude5300That's the one I want?04:18
mzzjust pick the one that's obviously touchpad-ish04:18
aliendude5300Or is it the one called "Macintosh mouse button emulation"04:18
mzzno, not that one04:18
aliendude5300Do I run gnome-settings-daemon before exporting?04:19
mzzfor the "bad" export: yes, break your mouse first04:19
mzzyou should already have a usable "good" export04:19
aliendude5300yeah.04:20
aliendude5300ok... now to unbreak my mouse and send you these exports.04:20
mzzjust "diff -u /tmp/{good,bad}|pastebinit" from the commandline04:20
mzzif my guess about this showing something is correct I can probably give you an xinput command that unbreaks your mouse04:21
aliendude5300pastebinit isn't installed.04:21
mzzit's tiny, I'd just install it04:21
aliendude5300And I can't turn on wireless without my mouse...04:21
aliendude5300FFS04:22
mzzahh04:22
mzzyeah, that's a showstopper04:22
mzz(unless you have cnetworkmanager! I wish that one was in ubuntu by default)04:22
aliendude5300gotta fix the mouse again :/04:22
mzzand I was about to tell you how to toggle that gconf pref from the commandline, but that's no use since disabling that plugin doesn't reset the mouse04:23
aliendude5300hmm... I'm still working on getting the mouse to work after I login to gnome-session... seems to have frozen again, hold on...04:26
aliendude5300there we go!04:26
* mzz just hopes those two properties dumps actually differ04:26
mzzif they don't it'll take a bit of digging04:26
nawaflolHey !04:26
coz_nawaflol,  back at you guy :)04:27
aliendude5300it totally fixed ti :D04:27
mzzwell, just disabling that plugin is obviously the wrong fix (breaks preferences -> mouse)04:27
bostongeek24hi04:27
bostongeek24how do i get the time to show up on the menubar?04:27
nawafloli can't find ubuntu cloud one ? in my Karmic Kola04:27
bostongeek24ive searched all of the preferances04:27
aliendude5300pastebin.com/f72cbf94804:27
bostongeek24cannot find it04:27
nawaflolYep !04:28
coz_bostongeek24,  in gnome?   right click the panel   Add to panel04:28
mzzbostongeek24: right-click empty spot on the panel, "add to panel", search for clock04:28
coz_bostongeek24,   choose  "Clock"04:28
nawaflolya04:28
bostongeek24thats really intuitive04:28
bostongeek24don't you think it would go in preferances?04:28
nawaflolClock ?04:28
michaelgilchnawaf, apt-get install ubuntuone-client-gnome04:28
nawaflolok04:29
mzzbostongeek24: personally I wouldn't expect it in prefs, given the number of different applets and the freedom you have in arranging them04:29
ransombostongeek24 it should be enabled by default anyway04:29
aliendude5300anything else you need?04:29
mzzbostongeek24: also, you normally have a clock there by default04:29
mzzaliendude5300: well, "Synaptics Off" is a little suspicious. Sec.04:29
ransombostongeek24: it is entirely possible that it just broke, being beta software and all04:29
* aliendude5300 wishes he could aid in the development of Ubuntu more, but I only know a bit of C++ and Java, and QBASIC.04:29
ransomaliendude5300 hell yeah, QBASIC04:30
nawaflolya i know ,i couldn't find the software-center .i had to download it ~!04:30
bostongeek24also i don't know if this is a known bug but when i first log into gnome and then when i try to change the brightness the whole thing goes wacky04:30
ransomaliendude5300: I learned to program with that in high school04:30
mzzransom: was pascal here, but I did some basic before that04:30
nawafloli know C programming04:30
bostongeek24the screen starts flashing and the brightness level on the monitor goes up and down04:30
mzzaliendude5300: give me a few minutes, need to dig through gnome-settings-manager04:30
mzzerr, -daemon04:31
ransommzz: you are probably a little older than me ;-)04:31
michaelgilchaliendude5300, you can report bugs, and all sorts of other things that aren't programming related but help out a lot04:31
bostongeek24how do i report this bug?04:31
ransombostongeek24: the main bugs page is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs04:32
aliendude5300whoa... ok, this is weird, but my windows don't have title bars... this happened after enabling compiz, and then turning it off :/04:32
coz_aliendude5300,  make sure the window decoration plugin is enabled in ccsm04:33
michaelgilchcan you get to a terminal, aliendude530004:33
ransomaliendude5300 I had that same problem with Xubuntu.  are you using Xubuntu or Ubuntu?04:33
horsiealiendude - check your desktop effects - when i turn mine on i get the same problem04:33
coz_aliendude5300,  how did you turn it off?04:33
mzzaliendude5300: weird, I see it *getting* that property but I don't see it *setting* it at all04:33
ransombostongeek24: i would check to see if the bug has already been reported first, though04:33
* aliendude5300 will be back soon... kinda busy :/04:34
mzzoh wait04:38
ransom: waiting04:38
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mzzaliendude5300: when you get back: can you go to system -> preferences -> mouse -> touchpad and disable "disable touchpad while typing"?04:38
mzzransom: sorry, I didn't mean for the entire channel to wait :(04:39
ZeikfriedThere is a program called Ubuntu Tweak, so they have a version that works with Kubuntu?04:39
ransommzz: ;-)04:39
georgyhi04:40
georgyI got a question regarding the restricted drivers04:41
georgyI can't access them o.o04:41
georgya buddy said i should check them out after reading this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8137752#post813775204:41
hifi!grub204:42
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub204:42
ransomgeorgy what kind of drivers do you need?04:43
georgyvideo04:43
ransomgeorgy: ati? nvidia?04:43
georgyintel04:43
mzzwait, what04:44
georgylspci says Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller.04:44
mzzintel video has restricted drivers now? what are those for?04:44
rippsI though all of intels drivers were open04:45
georgyworld of warcraft loads, but looks fuuuuucked up04:45
georgyI posted a picture in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8137752#post813775204:45
ransomgeorgy I am pretty sure Intel drivers work out of the box04:45
georgyi see04:45
ransomyou are using karmic, right?04:45
georgyyou can check for yourself http://i37.tinypic.com/ohstqp.png04:45
georgyyeah karmic04:45
ransomgeorgy: karmic is super-buggy right now.  it could be an issue other than your drivers04:46
georgyohhhhh i see04:46
ransomgeorgy: i would suggest checking the bugs to see if anyone else has had the problem04:46
ZeikfriedThe new versions of WoW wont run in WINE in OpenGL mode.04:47
georgyoh wow o.o04:47
ransomgeorgy: or just wait for the release candidate version of karmic on thursday, OR get the full release karmic on Oct 2904:47
georgyhow would one run it?04:47
ZeikfriedYou can try it with a vanilla client and get it up and running in OpenGL, then update yoru WoW client, but that is about it.04:47
georgyi see04:47
georgyvanilla client?04:47
coz_georgy,  I would also do   sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade a couple times a week until release  to see if any fixes have been offered04:48
georgythank you04:48
georgyYeah, karmic is pretty sweet imo04:48
mzzaliendude5300: I'm gone now, please see above and seek further help and/or file a bug with information gathered so far04:49
aliendude5300...04:50
aliendude5300was just about to try that too04:50
mzzoh, well, I guess I can stick around for a few more minutes :)04:50
georgyZeikfried what's a vanilla client?04:51
mzzbut if this fixes it your next step would be figuring out what bogus keystrokes syndaemon sees, and I'm not entirely sure how to approach that04:51
aliendude5300Where is disable touchpad while typing? I dont see it under the touchpad tab04:51
aliendude5300options:04:52
aliendude5300enable touchpad04:52
aliendude5300enable mouse clicks with touchpad04:52
aliendude5300enable vertical scrolling04:52
aliendude5300enable horizontal scrollinh04:52
* mzz frowns04:52
aliendude5300thats all there is.04:52
mzzaliendude5300: running gnome-mouse-properties gives you that dialog?04:53
georgyanyone using gnome shell just wondering04:53
Barridusheya all.  where is xorg.conf located now?04:53
aliendude5300"mzz: aliendude5300: when you get back: can you go to system -> preferences -> mouse -> touchpad and disable "disable touchpad while typing"?"04:53
JuanCarlosHai04:53
JuanCarlos!foo04:53
ubottubar04:53
mzzBarridus: it isn't (you don't have one by default)04:53
mzzBarridus: if you want one put it in /etc/X11/04:53
aliendude5300yes.04:53
aliendude5300same dialog.04:53
georgyi was wondering that also04:53
mzzBarridus: /var/log/Xorg.0.log tells you which it picked up, if any04:53
Barridusmzz, ok that was my next question04:54
JuanCarlosWho want to help me to test a program?04:54
mzzaliendude5300: sec04:54
Barridusmy .avi aspect ratios are all goofed, i used to have to fix that in xorg.conf04:54
mzzaliendude5300: dpkg -l gnome-control-center, installed version is?04:54
Barridusmzz, think i should just copy over my old xorg.conf?04:54
mzzBarridus: depends on what's in it :)04:55
mzzJuanCarlos: please be more specific04:55
aliendude53001:2.26.0-0ubun04:55
Barridusshould i pastebin?  it's not *that* long04:55
JuanCarlosok04:55
georgymzz, after checking the xorgconfig i think i see the problem04:55
mzzaliendude5300: how'd you manage that? Should be 2.28.1-0ubuntu1 or similar04:55
georgymy laptop should be using a different driver "i" believe04:55
mzzBarridus: sure, why not04:55
aliendude5300hold on... I'm gonna check for new version. I'm DEFINATELY on 9.1004:55
JuanCarloscan i ask if someone want to help me to test if a program run on other karmic boxes?, if not, its ok too04:56
bjsniderBarridus, i don't see the connection between xorg.conf and movie aspect ratios unless your monitor is being driven at the wrong resolution04:56
Barridus!paste04:56
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com (or !pastebinit for CLI) | For pasting !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin Please give us the URLs for your posts!04:56
mzzJuanCarlos: so at least tell us what kind of program it is and how extensive the testing is you need04:56
Barridushttp://paste.ubuntu.com/297972/04:56
Barridusmzz ^04:56
JuanCarlosi need to know if its install ok, its packaged04:57
mzzBarridus: looks safe enough, although I wonder if the NoDDC is doing anything useful04:57
mzzJuanCarlos: so tell us what the program is04:57
mzz!anyone04:57
ubottuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?04:57
Barridusbjsnider, the "nodcc" and "displaysizes" arguments were suggested in an aspireone bugfix page on the ubuntu community docs site04:57
ageebanyone with any experience getting an 02Micro mmc card reader working?04:58
JuanCarlosZenity based GUI for impressive, who want some, dumb but nicer04:58
ArkoldThos:>04:58
JuanCarlosit shows PDF like Expose of Compiz04:58
mzzbjsnider: if the detected physical size (from edid data) is nonsensical you'd get what Barridus describes (because X thinks your pixels are very far from square04:58
coz_ageeb,  no  I have no experience with that all ...sorry guy04:58
georgymzz or coz_ there is no way to change the drivers in 9.10 ?04:59
mzzI'd expect just forcing DisplaySize to suffice though04:59
ageebnp... from my brief research it seems there aren't drivers for it :(04:59
Barridusmzz, basically all videos are being shown as 4:3 regardless of aspect ratio04:59
coz_georgy,  well what does it say under  system/aministration/hardware drivers  ?04:59
mzzBarridus: ok, that's weird04:59
Barridusjust sayin.  ok brb with my "new" xorg.conf04:59
Barridusaka the old one04:59
mzzBarridus: it consistently squeezing or stretching the video I'd get04:59
georgybecause im looking at xorg, it is using the one for i810 which i believe mine is i965 which i saw in a older pic of ubuntu's restricted drivers05:00
Barridusok wait heh05:00
mzzgeorgy: I don't really have intel hardware but I'm not aware of there being a proprietary or interesting alternate driver for it05:00
coz_georgy,  oh intel  mmm05:00
Barridushow do you get rid of the "you're rebooting in 60 seconds05:00
mzzgeorgy: you can probably find a ppa with a different version of the driver though05:00
georgyhold up05:00
mzzBarridus: there's a gconf pref05:00
Barridusyou used to be able to right click on the indicator-applet05:00
Barridusmzz, ok05:00
mzzBarridus: see /apps/indicator-session in gconf-editor, iirc05:01
coz_georgy,   here is a ppa for intel  drivers    https://launchpad.net/~intel-gfx-testing/+archive/ppa05:01
mzzI've been meaning to hack up indicator-session to put back ui for that one, but haven't gotten around to it05:01
JuanCarloswww.tecnicoslinux.com.ar/livecd/GUImpressive_1_all.deb05:02
georgyty05:02
Barridusok that appears to be correct, mzz.  brb :D05:02
coz_georgy,  although those are testing05:02
bodamIs there anyone here that can help me with an upgrade problem?05:02
coz_bodam,  whats the problem?05:02
georgyif it screws up how would i change it back? o.o05:02
bodamI've posted in the forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1295887 but have no help.  Essentially after the upgrade Evolution doesn't work and it doesn't allow me to install it again05:03
JuanCarlosget the deb05:04
coz_bodam,  first open a terminal   sudo apt-get update  then do   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:04
bjsnidermzz, time for a monitor change05:05
georgyhow does one add ppas?05:05
coz_georgy, ` open  system/administration/ software sources05:06
coz_georgy,   Add   ppa:intel-gfx-testing/ppa05:06
bodamInteresting it's installing 79 more packages - any reason the upgrade didn't get them?05:06
georgyooo ic05:07
georgyty05:07
coz_georgy,  no problem05:07
coz_bodam,  did you run those commands?05:07
JuanCarlos1lol05:07
mzzaliendude5300: sorry, really gone now. Sounds like your upgrade was incomplete, should probably figure out what's up with that, but suspect there's still a bug in the "disable touchpad when typing" mode on your system, which means the syndaemon program, although the actual bug may be in some input driver05:07
bodamYes - It's installing 79 more packages.  I was asking why the original upgrade skipped/missed them05:08
coz_bodam,  well if you did not use  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade then it probably didnt pull the requred libraries  especially if you uninstalled evolution05:08
speedyxHallo to all the guys!05:09
JuanCarlos1!foo05:09
ubottubar05:09
aliendude5300mzz: I'll work on it tomorrow. seems I have the latest version.05:09
JuanCarlos1!bar05:09
ubottubaz05:09
coz_bodam,  also when you see the  "broken pacakges"  error  ..you can open  system/administration/ synaptic pacakge maanger   click the  Edit menu and  "Fix broken packages "05:09
mzzaliendude5300: you really didn't just now (karmic really does have .28)05:09
mzz(and I'm pretty sure jaunty had .26)05:09
speedyxPlease help! I distupgraded jaunty->karmic but after the reboot I can't access the system05:09
Barridushmmm, i copied over xorg.conf and the video aspect rations are still goofy.  my xorg,conf used to fix it in hardy - jaunty05:10
aliendude5300mzz: Thats really odd, because it no longer offers to upgrade to karmic.05:10
JuanCarlos1logout05:10
bodamJust so you know, I didn't uninstall Evolution. When I upgraded my system I did the recommended Alt+F2 and type in "update-manager -d"05:10
coz_bodam,  I see05:10
coz_bodam,  let me know if the dist-upgrade has solved anything05:11
mzzBarridus: "xdpyinfo|grep inch" should confirm the currently set physical size is weird or not, and xrandr can probably override those values (see --fbmm or --dpi in man xrandr)05:11
mzzaliendude5300: try plain old update-manager and make sure you're updated and upgraded05:11
mzzor plain old apt-get or whichever frontend you prefer05:12
georgehello, sorry had to restart05:12
Barridus  resolution:    58x135 dots per inch05:12
aliendude5300It's 12AM, I'll be on tomorrow. Sorry :/05:12
mzzyeah, that's what I figured05:12
georgechanged back to normal desktop then it crashed coz_ do you have that ppa link? sorry..05:12
mzzaliendude5300: fine, I should be asleep myself05:12
coz_george,  hold on05:12
mzzBarridus: try "xrandr --dpi 100" or somesuch05:13
georgenvm05:13
bodamCoz_: I will it will take awhile though - i have a relatively slow network connection - in any case - thanks05:13
coz_bodam,  ok under stood :)05:13
georgexchat saved it :)05:13
coz_george,   just in case    https://launchpad.net/~intel-gfx-testing/+archive/ppa05:13
Don_Miguel <coz_> georgy,   Add   ppa:intel-gfx-testing/ppa05:13
georgeoh, for sure05:13
georgei added it05:13
georgedo you do sudo apt-get install intel-gfx-testing o_O? or..05:14
Barridusmzz, ah good call.  the number 96 seems familiar for dpi05:14
coz_george,  I would open synatpic pacakge manager...hit the Search button and type in intel05:14
georgeoh05:14
georgeic05:14
mzzBarridus: that was the quick and dirty version, the more correct version is to measure the physical size of your screen and use xrandr --fbmm05:15
georgegood idea ;]05:15
coz_I have to break here  but may be back in a bit :)   be nice05:15
mzzBarridus: (notice currently the horizontal and vertical resolution are wildly different, that's not the case for normal monitors)05:15
Barridusmy netbook's display is 1024x60005:16
mzzBarridus: yes, but the ratio between its *physical* width and height are probably about the same as the ratio between the number of pixels horizontally and vertically05:16
mzzBarridus: so normally you'd still end up with about the same number of pixels per inch in both directions (square pixels)05:17
Barridusmzz, it appears i should be shooting for 96x96.  should i just put xrandr --dpi 96 in my startup apps?05:18
mzzthat'd work05:18
mzzI don't know what the preferred way to fix this is05:18
Barridusme neither, but it seems to fix my problem :D  thanks!05:19
bodamCoz_: That did it - thanks05:19
mzzI guess eventually tweaks like this might end up in the same place input device tweaks are, but that can't currently work05:19
mzz(that's currently hal, but X can't pull monitor options from hal, and hal might be going away before X gains that support)05:20
Barridusok, last question.  karmic doesn't include a rdp compatable remote client like jaunty and previous did?  what is the name of the package that contains that client05:21
mzzwas that ekiga in jaunty?05:22
mzzerr, no, probably not05:22
Barridusnope, not ekiga05:22
mzzsorry, I don't know05:22
mzzI had rdp and something else mixed up05:22
Barridusi'll poke around in gnome-app-install05:23
horsiebarridus - you mean the terminal server client?05:25
RussellAlanhttp://www.sucka.net/2009/08/how-to-compile-and-install-wine-1-1-28-in-debian-lenny/05:25
Barridusyeah, i think it;'s tsclient05:25
RussellAlanIs this for Ubuntu?05:25
Barridusverifying now05:25
RussellAlanwell ubuntu is a debian based system?05:25
horsieyes its tsclient05:25
musikgoatRussellAlan: it says debian lenny05:25
horsieI have v 0.15005:25
RussellAlanyeah05:25
RussellAlani still haven't understood completely... don't debian files run in ubuntu?05:26
RussellAlanlike .deb or what does that refer to?05:26
musikgoat!deb05:26
ubottudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility.05:26
RussellAlanthanks.05:27
RussellAlanone thing down... 10 million to go ;-)05:27
musikgoati haven't looked at the instructions, i'm not sure if its universal05:27
RussellAlanwell it's a ubuntu guide site05:27
RussellAlanI was just curious because I have wine installed, although I'm not sure how to configure it so I can run from my windows volume05:27
georgethat ppa thing isn't working05:28
RussellAlani'm not sure how to locate my partition other then through file manager05:28
RussellAlanAnyone know how I can locate it in terminal persay?05:30
horsieruss - check in /media05:31
musikgoatRussellAlan: your windows partition? check mount for what is mounted05:31
Barridusok it appears i'm good to roll now.  thanks again mzz and horsie05:31
RussellAlanwell I guess that is it mr horsie05:32
RussellAlannamed disk.05:32
georgei added the ppa for this.. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/ i don't see it for download in the synaptic package manager05:33
georgeo.o05:33
horsiedisk is your local disk so your / drive05:33
musikgoathorsie: nah, thats gnome naming convention05:33
RussellAlanWhat is indicated by being highlighted in green?05:33
musikgoatits the first mounted disk05:33
RussellAlanHmm, how do I access these directories?05:34
RussellAlanor should i say.05:34
RussellAlanhow do i access directories with spaces05:35
horsieup to places on the tool bar and then to computer05:35
RussellAlanwhat character?05:35
musikgoatls /media/disk05:35
horsietab will autocomplete for you05:35
RussellAlanin terminal05:35
musikgoatls /media/Disk\ one/05:35
musikgoat!tab | RussellAlan Also,05:35
ubottuRussellAlan Also,: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.05:35
musikgoathorsie: sorry :(05:36
musikgoatbedtime05:36
RussellAlanHmm05:36
RussellAlanmusikgoat: doesn't work05:36
georgeohai05:39
georgei added the ppa for this https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/05:39
georgedont see it in synaptic o.005:39
durtgeorge, have you reloaded the package database?05:40
georgeyup05:41
georgeoh it says05:41
georgethe method driver can't be loaded05:41
georgeusr/lib/apt/methods/ppa05:41
georgegotta install that first i guess?05:41
durtI've personally never seen or heard of that05:42
georgewhich think?05:42
georgeer thing*05:42
durt/usr/lib/apt/methods/ppa05:43
georgeaww05:44
RussellAlanahhhh, i just love kubuntu05:44
RussellAlankarmic especially.05:44
georgelol05:45
georgei just broke synaptic manger05:45
RussellAlanI'm setting up wine with adobe cs4... it says using jaunty.05:46
georgei took the ppa: out05:46
RussellAlansudo sh -c "echo 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main' >> /etc/apt/sources.list"05:46
RussellAlan$ sudo sh -c "echo 'deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main' >> /etc/apt/sources.list"05:46
georgenow it crashes haha05:46
RussellAlanWhat will those command be doing, what should I change?05:46
durtjust looked, it does not exist in my install, but it does seem to be a dir of binaries for what method of downloading packages you are using (?)05:47
durtI think, but no 'ppa' in there.05:47
* tiger2wander is away: Away05:47
georgeim not sure05:48
georgehow can i download them?05:48
georgeit should just pop up in the s manager05:48
durtRussellAlan, it adds the wine ppa to your /etc/sources.list05:48
georgei fixed the manager woo.05:48
durtgeorge, If I were you I would shut down synaptic and run 'sudo apt-get update' in a terminal and see if there are any errors.05:49
georgedoes that update all?05:50
durteverything in /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d05:51
georgeoo ic05:52
georgeooo..05:53
georgeW: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3B22AB97AF1CDFA905:53
georgeo.o05:53
durtgeorge, is that the only error?05:54
georgeyeah05:55
durtgo back to the ppa page and follow the instructions on how to add the gpg key, it's fairly straight forward.05:55
DanaGsudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --add-key KEY05:56
DanaGwhere KEY is either the whole thing, or just the last 8 hex digits.05:56
georgeoo ic05:56
durtDanaG, but would not having the key stop the packages from showing up in synaptic?05:57
DanaGNo, it'd just make them show up Unauthenticated.05:58
durtah ha05:58
georgesweet05:59
georgeI see it05:59
georgethank you05:59
george>=]05:59
oldude67well that was neat and exciting i bet i dont do that ever again..lmao...if a package is broken, you should never try to make it worse..cause it can and does get a lot worse..lmfao06:01
thuxhello, can one trust karmic's palimpsest reports? two of my three laptops complaint about disk failing?06:31
RAOFthux: That's a SMART failure, I believe.  I'd check with some other tool, but it may well be your drives (potentially) failing.06:38
thuxRAOF: thanks, what tool you would recomended?06:47
peepsalotjust update, now firefox won't start, segfaults :-(06:47
peepsalotothers having this problem?06:48
RAOFthux: Not sure; "aptitude search smart" suggests that the "smartmontools" package is likely to be useful.06:48
thuxok thanks06:48
peepsalothrm, renamed my .mozilla/firefox and now it starts... maybe it's some add on I had?  is there any way to salvage some of my old settings?06:50
Bluey1why doesn't cat /proc/bus/usb/devices work in 9.10?06:54
georgyhello06:55
georgywow gives this error when i try to run it06:55
georgyX Error of failed request:  GLXBadDrawable06:55
georgy  Major opcode of failed request:  153 (GLX)06:55
georgy  Minor opcode of failed request:  5 (X_GLXMakeCurrent)06:55
georgy  Serial number of failed request:  49506:55
georgy  Current serial number in output stream:  49506:55
georgyo.o06:55
horsieanyone being able to dual boot ubuntu/windows successfully with grub2 and not had to edit the config etc afterwards - just have it work?06:56
julien__hey i "fixed" Xorg memry leak06:57
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Bluey1horsie - let me check my windows brb07:01
georgyi have a problem with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=813775207:03
georgynewest update is at the bottom of the post07:04
Bluey1horsie07:07
horsieyesh07:07
Bluey1horsie: yes my vista dual boots fine07:08
horsieta :)07:08
Bluey1horsie: but I don't know how to gell if it07:08
Bluey1grub or grub207:08
Bluey1i am having difficulties getting gapcmon to run07:10
Bluey1oh yeah this is obvious -- change /etc/default/apcupsd from isconfigured=no to isconfigured=yes07:14
julien__xdcmp has to activated manually?07:20
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Bluey1okay it can't find my printer - HELP!07:27
Bluey1love a duck - when I cycle the power on my printer - it's not detected in the system log -07:32
Bluey1ahh the cats ate my printer - the plug was not pushed in all the way...07:39
eagles0513875!kde08:02
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde408:02
eagles0513875im trying to install a stripped down version of kde as kubuntu-desktop meta package has lots of stuff i dont want in it what packages do i need just for kde408:03
eagles0513875!kde408:03
ubottuKDE 4.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.2 and http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.3 - Support in #kubuntu08:03
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frandieguezhi to all08:10
frandieguezI'm translating ubuntu to galician language and I see that software-center string that appears on the gnome menu has a mistake08:11
frandieguezyesterday the package was updated but the same string continues there08:12
frandieguezI saw at launchpad translations and the string is fixed, I understand that tomorrow is the final day to commit translations but I'm a bit  worried about if this will be fixed and included in the final release08:13
gorthaughi, in the boot i get and "error" message, but i cant read it becaus its desapear to fast, in which log can i find it?08:13
Ian_Cornefrandieguez: what's the error?08:15
frandieguezThe software-center has the title "Centro de software deUbuntu" where the correct is "Centro de control de Ubuntu"... note the space between "de" and "Ubuntu"08:16
frandieguezIan_Corne: here is the string at launchpad https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/software-center/+pots/software-center/gl/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=deUbuntu08:17
frandieguezIan_Corne: sorry here https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/software-center/+pots/software-center/gl/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=Centro+de+software+de08:18
Jordan_Ufrandieguez: I don't know how translations are dealt with but it might help to submit a bug report to get it on the radar since it's a simple fix08:28
frandieguezJordan_U good point08:29
hadeanyesterday i updated to 9.10. ever since i cant make a program wider than one screen. nvidia-settings set to twinview. before the update it  worked. somebody got a hint for me?08:45
iokadoes anyone know what the command to start terminal in xubuntu is?08:46
* tremmons is away: Gone away for now08:46
hadeanthe problem is i need my ide on full screen because it has everything i need in it.08:47
hadeanleft (main) screen on 1280, right one widescreen on 1920. in jaunty i got it working. anyone got a hint for me?08:48
tonyyarussoioka: I think it uses xterm08:48
Jordan_Uioka: xfce4-terminal08:49
tonyyarussoah, right08:50
sdakposhi08:50
jamieleshawHello, is karmic ment to have to boot splashes ?08:50
sdakposi have a problem with wi-fi, after updating from Jaunty, network manager was disconnecting my wi-fi every 10-20 seconds, i have installed WICD and know in dmesg i see that it tries authenticating but it times out.. what can be the problem?08:52
sdakposi use iwl3945 module08:52
* tremmons is back.08:55
hadeanlol after x restart it worked08:55
hadeanthanks anyways08:55
sdakposanyone?08:55
tremmonsthated be Konversation08:58
hadeanBack again, it didnt work, not even after a restart. why cant i make a program wider than one screen after upgrading to karmic?09:12
hadean(latest nvidia installed).09:12
ac13_is it just me, or is the notification location in karmic off?09:14
ac13_i.e., the popups are not in the top right, but offset by some height (the height of the volume control display?)09:15
hadeanit should be there, works here09:18
ac13_hm, I have a screenshot...09:19
ac13_http://i.imgur.com/vGgYU.png09:20
hadeanhum09:22
hadeanno idea09:22
hadeanhaving trouble with my screens but works here09:22
ac13_I don't know, it's just weird. oh well. I don't remember if this was an issue in Jaunty or not.09:23
hadean:q!09:27
hadeanoops09:27
ltspadminwhen i boot the thinclient system through floppy. getting an error message chroot: canonot execute /usr/bin/getltscfg: exec ..in ubuntu 9.10 amd64 i found problem is in the nbi.img file09:45
ltspadminwhen i boot the thinclient system through floppy. getting an error message chroot: canonot execute /usr/bin/getltscfg: exec ..in ubuntu 9.10 amd64 i found problem is in the nbi.img file09:46
ltspadminwhen i boot the thinclient system through floppy. getting an error message chroot: canonot execute /usr/bin/getltscfg: exec ..in ubuntu 9.10 amd64 i found problem is in the nbi.img file09:48
martinjh99What is the difference between the CD and DVD of Karmic? Apart from being both a Alternate and an Live CD...09:48
ltspadminhow to rebuild nbi.img file in ubuntu 9.10 amd 64 bit09:49
ltspadminhow to rebuild nbi.img file in ubuntu 9.10 amd 64 bit09:50
pointlessjoni'm having some major problems getting rolling with couchdb09:51
* alankila hates couchdb for its erlang dependency09:52
pointlessjonmaybe i can roll with tokyo cabinet?09:53
ltspadminhow to rebuild nbi.img file in ubuntu 9.10 amd 64 bit09:53
cousin_mariohello09:55
cousin_mariowhen will the packages on archive.canonical.com be updated for karmic?09:55
hadeanCan anyone help me with my nvidia twinview? i cant make a program wider than one screen.09:58
hadeanbtw: wee all my mouse extra keys work without cfg... /wee karmic10:00
hadeandidnt linus torwalds flame bcz. of the too monstrous kernel? :P10:01
dergringoWhats the name of this notfication thingy at the top of the screen used by pidgn and others. is it libnotify?10:04
dergringoi mean the black boxes that appear for a few seconds and then fade10:05
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hadeanyupp10:10
mac_v!logs10:27
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/10:27
coz_hey guys.. I have a few "visual" issues with karmic... first is that blackish screen with white ubuntu and zippy progress bar of sorts... the second is that screen with the white ubuntu logo on it  which is generlly empty unless I disable quiet splash... are these things going to remain like this?10:40
TermanaI am unable to change my status AT ALL in Empathy on Karmic Koala Alpha 6 - is this a known bug?10:56
cousin_mariois there a way to have the logout/shutdown/restart buttons in the system menu?11:01
om26erTermana: no11:01
om26erTermana: update you system11:01
cybersplicecousin_mario: no, they're in the little status notifier on the top right. :)11:16
cousin_mariocybersplice: bottom right in my case, but I'd rather not to rely on an applet11:17
cousin_marioI tried looking into gconf-editor but I couldn't find anything11:17
coz_cousin_mario,  it's possible to create a menu item11:20
cousin_mariocoz_: I've tried for 3 days11:21
coz_cousin_mario,  and then you have to decide if you want the shut down ui or the log off ui11:21
cousin_mariocoz_: I'd rather have both11:21
cousin_marioor something to invoke a menu with all the choices11:22
cousin_mariocoz_: any hint will be appreciated11:22
coz_cousin_mario,  well if you open alacarte and ad an item for each  the log off ui command is     gnome-session-save --kill   the shutdown ui dbus command is     dbus-send --dest=org.gnome.SessionManager /org/gnome/SessionManager org.gnome.SessionManager.Shutdown11:22
cousin_mariocoz_: thanks a LOT11:23
coz_cousin_mario,  no problem11:23
coz_cousin_mario,  I would test those commands in the terminal first  just in case I miss typed11:24
DamienCassouhi11:25
coz_DamienCassou,  hey guy11:26
DamienCassouI tried 2 daily cds today and my computer (macbook 4.1) refuses to boot them. I check the md5sum and it is ok11:26
coz_DamienCassou,  when the live cd starts  there is an options to check the cd...have you don that ?11:27
coz_DamienCassou,  other than that I havent used a mac since  way long time ago :)11:28
DamienCassoucoz_: the menu never appears. There is only a blinking underscore forever11:28
coz_mmm11:28
coz_DamienCassou,  ok then I will have to let someone else take this question  because I just havent done anything with an ibook at all especially trying to install linux   although I am sure you made sure you downloaded the correct  live cd  for mac right?11:29
iokaguys do you know if wine has a irc chat somewhere?11:29
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coz_ioka,  I believe so let me check11:29
coz_ioka,  yes  where you type here  type       /join #wine11:30
iokaI checked in their web site.could not find it.11:30
coz_or rather    #winehg11:30
DamienCassoucoz_: there is no special cd because I have an intel-based CPU. I've already installed linux on it previously. I just want to install everything from scratch with latest 9.1011:30
virtuald#winehq ?11:30
coz_DamienCassou,  oh I see11:30
coz_virtuald,  yes sory11:30
coz_#windhq11:30
virtualdhehe11:31
iokaok I'll try winehq. #wine is for invites only.11:31
ioka10x a lot11:31
cousin_mariocoz_: also do you have any idea on how to remove the help/introduction to ubuntu/informations from the system menu? alacarte doesn't show them11:31
coz_although if you type /join #wine  you are redirected to #winehq11:31
coz_cousin_mario,  not off hand    I dont11:31
cousin_mariook, thanks11:32
coz_cousin_mario,  if it is possible to remove them it is more deeply buried in the system11:33
iokais there a rule that wget follows when it download anything?Where can I find it after the download is finished?11:45
coz_ioka,   if you open a terminal   and cd to the location you want the download to be  ...exampl     cd Desktop  then do the wget11:45
coz_ioka,  check in /temp11:45
coz_or  /home/downloads11:46
coz_/home/yourname/downloads11:46
iokaok11:46
coz_ioka,  for wget I first   cd  Desktop  then run the wget11:46
iokaok.11:46
Ian_Cornewhat can be the cause if update-manager -d doesn't find the update to karmic?11:47
coz_Ian_Corne,   ah not sure  try   sudo update-manager -d11:48
virtualdhmm11:48
virtualdthere's no way to unblock an msn contact in empathy11:48
Ian_Cornei did that cos..11:48
coz_virtuald,   also no irc capabilities in empathy either11:48
Ian_Cornelol virtuald11:48
virtualdcoz_: yes there is11:48
virtualdcoz_: with telepathy-idle11:49
coz_virtuald,  oh ok  well I dont like empathy...my opinion11:49
virtuald:)11:49
coz_Ian_Corne,   are you on jaunty 9.04 ?11:49
iokawhat is ren command in linux - mv  old name new name?11:49
Ian_Cornecoz_: yes11:49
coz_ioka,  "ren" command?11:49
iokarename11:50
virtualdi've never seen an im client handle irc channels like a good irc client should11:50
virtualdor maybe it's just the scripts and plugins that are missing11:50
coz_Ian_Corne,  then I am not sure11:50
iokawhat is the equivalent rename command in linux - mv old.nam new.name?11:50
Martin_vWhmm... does anyone else have the problem that the window list in karmic won't react to clicks? I always have to 'grab' an entry and move it a few pixels to select a window.11:51
Martin_vWioka: yes, mv11:51
ioka10x11:51
coz_ioka,    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47751011:51
cousin_mariobye all11:51
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om26ertransmission torrent should be removed as the default torrent clicnet as it does not even keep the download speed constant11:57
C-S-Bso skype 1.2 beta is not working on Acer aspire on with karmic12:00
C-S-Bfact12:00
C-S-BI've hacked it so I've got a version locked installed skype 2.0 install which doesn't use pulse.12:01
C-S-Bif anyone has this working on this h/w let me know otherwise12:02
C-S-Bplease12:02
C-S-BI've posted the links to the 2.0 debs hosted at skype. on the ubuntu forums12:03
C-S-BSince the links are publicly easy to find12:03
mpower_bmwcan i use unetbootin to boot and install kubuntu 9.10 x64 iso from windows partition and install it to a separate ext4 partition?12:06
DanThirstok using karmic, clock isn't keeping correct time12:07
innomen"The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources. "12:08
innomenHow can i tell it to be more trusting :)12:08
DanThirsttake it out on a date and get to know it better?12:08
innomenDanThirst, i tried that, and we got into an argument and thigns are still a little tense12:09
DanThirstoh my bad12:09
innomen:)12:09
innomenshe started it, but that never matters12:09
DanThirsti think i've solved my problem12:09
innomenAny ideas? i could only find one instance of that error messge in google, and it was just a list of debian error messages :P12:10
innomenDanThirst, well awesome for you12:10
mpower_bmwcan i use unetbootin to boot and install kubuntu 9.10 x64 iso from windows partition and install it to a separate ext4 partition?12:10
innomenDanThirst, hopefully i'll join you here soon12:10
DanThirstwhy isn't there a time server located in Grenich !!! WHAT THE HECK12:11
saulusElijahCMenifee: Hi, new ideas for the nvidia compile dkms modules problem?12:11
innomenSurly there is something super basic i'm overlooking here.12:12
DanThirstalright just give this a minute see if it works, and why did they have to move the time/autosync preferences to the system>admin area12:12
DanThirstinnomen: does it require a ppa key perhaps you forgot to retrieve ?12:13
innomenThat might be it, i've never gotten a grasp on those fully, how do i go about finding the relevant one?12:13
innomeni wish there was just a button "instal anyway" or an equivalent12:14
DanThirstdepends on the source12:14
DanThirstYeah12:14
innomenI'll google12:14
DanThirstdid you add a source of your own, because if you did there was prolly inscriptions on how to install/retrieve the key12:15
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C-S-Bmpower_bmw, yes, i reckon you can. :)12:16
innomenDanThirst, no i was trying to install this bubble puzzle game from software center12:16
innomenand now virtualbox12:16
innomenboth complain about untrusted12:16
innomeni may have to simply duelboot xp12:17
DanThirstis that like one of those games that you get from sodapop cap games or something like that12:17
innomenbut i have a feeling thats going to be a severe pita12:17
innomenDanThirst, no, its the first game mentioend in the ubuntu documentation on linux gaming12:18
innomenand as i said its in the repo12:18
DanThirstok well I just updated to karmic how bout i give this a shot see if i can't help ya out12:18
innomensweet12:18
innomenDanThirst, its called frozen bubble12:19
DanThirstwe'll I've got bad news12:19
innomen*checks watch*12:20
innomen*looks at Dan*12:20
DanThirstworks fine for me so I'm not going to lead you on here some one else might be able to help you better but i think you need to change your source.list12:20
DanThirstbecause this installed fine for me12:20
innomenhmmm12:20
DanThirstHow comfortable are you with using command line?12:20
innomenoh plenty comfy12:21
DanThirstok and do you know what your source.list is12:21
innomenlet me look at that, it narrows the problem quite a bit12:21
innomenalso i'm 64 bit, are you? that may matter?12:21
DanThirstmay or may not, i don't know that much about this I'm just trying to help you because no one else is12:22
innomenDanThirst, well thats supr nice of you :)12:22
DanThirstI'm thinking ubuntu isn't trusting the cd, and thats where its trying to get it12:22
DanThirstis the cd in the drive?12:22
innomenDanThirst, no, i dont even have a karmic cd i update manager -d from 9.0412:23
DanThirstok well thats good - i think12:23
innomenhmm i think i agree that my problem is in my sources list12:24
DanThirstok well lets open up source.list we just want to look so execute this command  $ gedit /etc/apt/source.list12:24
DanThirstYou ever use paste bin before?12:24
legend2440innomen: frozen bubble is in universe repo. you have to be sure universe is enabled in  System>administration>software sources12:24
DanThirstor you can do like legend2440 suggested12:25
bazhangits actually cat /etc/apt/sources.list12:25
innomenlegend2440, already is, thanks though12:25
legend2440ok12:25
DanThirstbazhang: ?12:26
innomenbazhang, gedit worked fine for me12:26
innomenDanThirst, dont worry about him, i have it open12:26
DanThirstor kedit or nano .. who cares12:26
bazhangDanThirst, sources  not source12:26
DanThirstok http://pastebin.com/ stick it in there and maybe put in a name and for a day and paste your sorces.list12:26
DanThirstoh yeah my bad ... love how you all jump on to correct me when you aren't helping him, really help fun guys12:27
innomenDanThirst, i know right? i have sen that like a billion times12:27
innomenDanThirst, it like the comic about who can get the most hits on a blog post, and the winner just put a spelling error in the title, everyone LOVES being the "well actually" guy12:28
innomenDanThirst, let me so some basic stuff to my sources list, yuo've got me going in the rigth direction12:28
innomendo some basic stuff*12:28
DanThirstgood brb snack time12:29
innomenheh12:29
innomenenjoy12:29
DanThirstbck12:29
DanThirstI would just make sure the CD repo's are disabled with just a # in-front of them that will "comment them out"  and make sure the other ones do not have a # in front of them12:30
innomenDr_Willis, You should have your own theme music12:32
innomenDanThirst, i did something very close to that and changed my download server, its updating now12:33
* Dr_Willis has intro music like the 70's cop shows...12:33
DanThirstgood12:33
DanThirstHOLY CRAP LOUD MUSIC12:33
DanThirstfrozen bubbles is thug12:33
innomenDanThirst, that did it12:34
innomenDanThirst, Thanks for your help :)12:34
DanThirstwelcome12:34
DanThirstname make the eve servers come back up i wana check my mail12:34
innomenDr_Willis, hahah awesome, i totally just heard it in my mind12:34
DanThirstalright i'm out, i need to get to sleep just got home from work, later12:37
fcuk112_anybody know if soundblaster xi-fi works in karmic?12:37
Dr_WillisHmm.. I wonder if theres a UpNP server out that i can actually figure out. :)12:38
shadeslayeris there a kdeaddon package?12:38
shadeslayeri cant find the name for it12:38
Dr_WillisTheres lots of kde packages not installed by default.12:38
Dr_WillisKubuntu-restricted-extras is one i always install.12:38
tarzananyone running karmic on a laptop with a synaptics touchpad? i am unable to switch my touchpad off, that is it switches itself on again after a few seconds12:38
shadeslayerDr_Willis: yeah,but thats different....12:38
shadeslayertarzan: use touchfreeze12:39
shadeslayertarzan: run touchfreeze in root though12:39
tarzanshadeslayer: will try it, thank12:39
tarzans12:39
shadeslayerDr_Willis: i need the xml plugin for kate12:39
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innomenl8r guys :)12:42
innomenAs always, it's been a pleasure.12:43
fcuk112_anybody know if soundblaster xi-fi works in karmic?12:44
aprilharehey. has anyone noticed recently that firefox 3.5.3 has 'grown unstable'?12:46
aprilharei get firefox crashing all the time.12:47
shadeslayerwhats the name for the kde addons package?12:47
C-S-BI dont think karmic is recognising when my battery is low either, so it doesn't go to standby, just powers off.12:47
C-S-BAcer apsire one. 150 zg512:48
bazhangshadeslayer, for plasma?12:48
aprilhareyou've got to be kidding. seriously. it just crashed again.12:50
aprilharefirefox 3.5.3 is fail atm12:50
shadeslayerbazhang: i need the xml plugin for kate12:50
shadeslayerbazhang: which according to kde.org is in kde addons....12:50
shadeslayerbazhang: Kate on its own is a very capable editor, but the xml-plugin that is in the kdeaddons package takes it to another level entirely.12:51
bazhangkdeplasma-addons?12:51
shadeslayerbazhang: i dont know...12:51
Dr_Willisthere is no 'kdeaddons' package from what i see with --> apt-cache search kde | grep addon12:52
Dr_Willishighlighting-kate-doc - library documentation for highlighting-kate12:53
Dr_Willislibghc6-highlighting-kate-dev - syntax highlighting library based on Kate syntax descriptions12:53
tarzanshadeslayer: does not work, still enables itself after a few seconds again12:53
shadeslayertarzan: did you run it with root priviliges?12:54
iokaguys I used to have no problem executing the command updatedb.Now i cant.12:54
iokaupdatedb: can not open a temporary file for `/var/lib/mlocate/mlocate.db'12:55
tarzanshadeslayer: with and without, makes no difference12:55
shadeslayerDr_Willis: yeah i saw that..12:55
shadeslayertarzan: what DE?12:55
eldarhi all! I've installed kubuntu 9.10 few weeks ago, I don't have sound working in the flash and skype. Is it a known issue?12:55
Dr_Willisioka:  you are running with sudo?12:55
tarzanshadeslayer: DE?12:55
shadeslayereldar: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?12:55
shadeslayertarzan: Desktop env.12:55
tarzanshadeslayer: gnome12:55
eldarshadeslayer, I think I didn't. thanks I will try12:56
iokano I used to run it without sudo.Now it wants sudo.Why is that?12:56
shadeslayertarzan: then there should be a checkbox in the mouse config dialog which should turn it off...12:56
eldarit seems that I have it12:56
eldarNo packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.12:56
Dr_Willisioka:  ive alsays had to run it with sudo since its a system type service/feature12:57
shadeslayereldar: and you have installed skype via medibuntu?12:57
Dr_Willisioka:  unless theres some way to have a user only database for it.12:57
eldarno, from the deb package at skype.com12:57
eldarflash is from adobe.com12:57
shadeslayereldar: ah,thats why12:57
eldarshould I try it?12:58
shadeslayereldar: i think the 2 packages are conflicting12:58
eldarskype and flash??12:58
iokayes.I'm almost positive that I use to run it without sudo.12:58
shadeslayerthe one from adobe and ubuntu repos12:58
eldarhm12:58
tarzanshadeslayer: there is no button to disable it in the mouse preferences. disabling it using gsynaptics does not help either (same behaviour)12:58
shadeslayereldar: have you also installed gnash or something?12:58
eldardoesn't the browser use the one, which occurs first in the plugins directories?12:59
shadeslayertarzan: ok,did you google this problem?12:59
eldarI don't have gnash or anything else..12:59
tarzanshadeslayer: yes and i did not find anything... i just don't know if this is a xorg/gsynaptics/touchpad driver issue12:59
shadeslayereldar: ok,try removing : flashplugin-nonfree13:00
shadeslayertarzan: i have a synaptic touchpad,disbaled right now13:00
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kolphi. is this the right channel for Kubuntu karmic questions?13:05
bazhangkolp, yep13:05
tarzanshadeslayer: killing syndaemon solved the problem, the bug seems to be there13:06
tarzani'll file a bug report13:06
shadeslayertarzan: didnt have to do a thing here,good luck with the bug report :)13:07
eldarshadeslayer, removing flashplugin-nonfree didn't help13:07
shadeslayereldar: can you check the output of : dpkg -l | grep flash : ?13:08
eldarflashplugin-installer flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound13:08
eldarbut I remember installing the latter trying to fix the problem13:09
kolpcool. I've normally enabled 3 keyboard layouts (de,ru,in) which works fine. then I added ge. now when the de layout is selected the AltGr key doesn't work correctly in non-KDE apps and konsole.13:09
shadeslayereldar: /q ubuntulog13:10
shadeslayerwhops13:10
kolpbackslash, @, etc don't appear13:10
kolpremoving the ge layout fixes that again13:10
shadeslayereldar: 32 bit?13:11
tarzanis there a way to disable the start of syndaemon on x startup?13:11
oldude67am i the only one running kde, having issues with installing gnome as well?13:11
eldarshadeslayer, yes, 32 bit13:11
shadeslayereldar: and i thought we 64 bit users had a hard time installing flash :P13:12
shadeslayereldar: and what browser are you using?13:12
eldarhehe13:12
eldarchromium, firefox, konqueror13:12
Dr_Willisive no problems with flash on 64bit  ubuntu in the last 2+ releases13:13
shadeslayerDr_Willis: same here13:13
shadeslayereldar: ok reinstall flashplugin and go here to check if it works : http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/13:14
eldarbut why skype isn't working as well13:14
eldarI think it's a more common issue13:15
shadeslayereldar: whats not working on skype?13:15
eldarsound :)13:15
shadeslayereldar: did you select the o/p to use alsa ?13:15
eldaro/p? what's that13:15
eldarI haven't selected anything13:16
shadeslayereldar: output13:16
eldarno13:16
shadeslayereldar: in the settings go to sound and select the ouput to alsa13:16
eldarwhich settings? On Kubuntu I only have phonon backend which is xine currently13:16
eldaror settings of skype and flash?13:17
shadeslayereldar: the settings of skype13:17
eldarok, let me try once again.13:17
eldaramong suitable options I have only HDA Intel, ALC861 Analog Default Audio Device13:19
iokawhat am I doing wrong? there are .cvs files in the directory I am.after chmod 777 *.cvs I get  chmod: cannot access `*.cvs': No such file or directory13:20
alankilaawesome, I was able to plug the pulse extension into sun jdk from openjdk with no changes.13:20
alankilaso I can actually uninstall openjdk. Oh joy.13:20
alankilaall that I had to copy over was the pulse-ext jar and its associated native library13:21
alankilahmm, right, and a sound.properties file that uses that stuff, also from openjdk13:23
shadeslayereldar: change it to your sound card13:23
alankilathe reason I need to do this is that I think nothing plays audio for me anymore unless it goes through pulse. It's something to do with how the compatibility stuff uses pulse or gets routed to alsa or whatever, I don't know and I have given up13:24
eldaryes this option was actually selected, shadeslayer13:24
shadeslayereldar: oh then change it to the other one..13:24
eldarthe other ones don't make sense13:24
shadeslayereldar: HDA Intel ?13:25
eldaryes13:25
eldarthat's the option I chose, that's my soundcard13:25
shadeslayereldar: ok change it to something other than that and try the test call....13:25
oldude678 days away and this thing still has more bugs then a new york appartment.13:26
BluesKajhello folks13:26
BluesKajno updates this morning/today so far13:27
kolpdoes anyone know what could be wrong with the ge keyboard layout that it breaks AltGr?13:27
BluesKajaltgr?13:28
eldarshadeslayer, they don't work13:28
shadeslayereldar: :(13:28
eldaron my ubuntu 9.04 installation everything is fine13:28
shadeslayereldar: i dont have any other ideas...13:29
eldaranyway thank you for helping13:29
ltspadminbuild-client fails to build i386 version of boot, amd64 in ubuntu 9.1013:29
eldarI may try to reinstall it, once it's out with hope that it's solved somehow13:29
linux1could someone check a package for me it keeps seg faulting here its spring-engine :( ,before i add a bug report13:30
kolpBluesKaj: in de layout, e.g. altgr+q doesn't produce '@' in non-kde apps if the ge layout is also enabled (not selected)13:30
BluesKajkolp, sorry dunno about your specific problem but there have been sevseral KB probs reported after installing karmic , for example the mute button no longer works here , but the vol ctrls do13:32
kolpBluesKaj: now, those work fine for me :)13:34
dtonice. nautilus now detects my walkman as a music player, and gives it an ipod-ish icon13:43
vistakiller1the last update from firefox crash it very often13:49
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ActionParsnipyo yo yo14:02
iokahow do I move directories guys?14:06
iokatried mv -t does not work14:06
Dr_Willismv, rename,  commands14:06
Dr_Willis!bash14:06
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal14:06
joaopintoyou don't need -t, you just need mv14:07
joaopintoioka, man mv14:07
ActionParsnipmv -r can be useful14:07
iokaI read man mv.Could not understand it14:07
Dr_Willishttp://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php14:07
iokamv -r invalid option -r14:08
Dr_Willishttp://linuxcommand.org/lts0050.php#mv14:08
Lazymv sourcefile destination14:08
Dr_Willismv --help     :)14:08
Dr_Willisor cheat and use 'mc'14:09
Dr_Willis!info mc14:09
ubottumc (source: mc): midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:4.6.2-2 (karmic), package size 2124 kB, installed size 6352 kB14:09
iokathere are many directories to move.14:09
Lazymv dir1 dir2 dir3 destination14:10
Dr_Willisor use wildcards/regular expressions14:10
Dr_Willisor cheat and use 'mc'   :)14:10
iokawhat is the wild card for directory?14:11
ioka*.* + all files14:11
Dr_Williswildcards are for names14:11
Dr_Willisand  thisis not DOS   the *.* does not do what you think it does/means14:11
iokado I can not execute commnd similar to *.* but for the directories14:11
Dr_Willistry  'echo *' to see what patterns mach what names.14:11
Dr_Willisfiles or dirs do not get differanted by the wildcards14:12
Dr_Willis the shell expands them based on the names. thats it.  dosent matter what they are.14:12
Dr_WillisIf you want to get real fancy you an use the 'find' command to do somt things to just files, or to just dirs14:12
Dr_Willisfind -type d -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 75514:13
Dr_Willisthat whould chmod 755 JUST the directories14:13
Lazyif you want to move everything from your current dir "destination" somewhere you would use: mv * destination14:13
digdeepjust upgrade to Karmic on my Dell D610. Able to ping, but not sudo apt-get update, cannot browse either.14:14
Lazydigdeep: can you ping www.google.com14:14
digdeepI upgrade it in my uni and it works, but it doesn't work at home14:14
digdeepLazy, yes14:15
* mzz tries to remember if there's a factoid like "!cannot"14:15
Dr_Willisbrowser to www.google.com times out? or what?14:15
mzzevery time people say they "cannot" do something I imagine they have their hands tied behind their back so they can't type the command line or something like that14:15
Dr_Willis!dontwork14:16
ubottuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.14:16
mzzyeah, that's the one14:16
* Dr_Willis fits that definition of !dontwork14:16
digdeepcan ping google.com14:16
Lazyand it responds with correct ip addresses?14:17
Lazylike: PING www.l.google.com (209.85.135.147) 56(84) bytes of data.14:17
mzzso how's the other stuff failing? Timeouts? error messages?14:17
aprilharei miss working.14:17
digdeepLazy, yes14:17
aprilhareanyone else having stability problems with firefox 3.5.3?14:18
mzznot so far14:18
Lazywhat happens when you try to browse to www.google.com in firefox?14:18
aprilharecrashes with gmail etc.?14:18
mzzaprilhare: crash reports help14:18
aprilharemzz: hard to make: the program freezes rather than crashes14:18
mzzaprilhare: if you're concerned about privacy extract just the stacktrace14:18
mzzaprilhare: kill -9 it14:18
digdeepLazy, it keeps loading and times out eventually14:18
mzzerr, no, not 914:18
mzzaprilhare: kill -11 it14:18
aprilhareok14:19
aprilharemzz: apport will pick that up?14:19
mzzaprilhare: iirc yes14:19
digdeepI am able to connect internet at uni, but it doesn't work at home. Will that be a routing issue?14:19
Lazydigdeep: what happens if you type this in terminal "telnet www.google.com 80"14:19
mzzit's pretty hard to distinguish a manual sigsegv from an actual crash14:19
mzzdigdeep: bogus proxy sounds possible14:19
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mzzdigdeep: might want to echo $http_proxy, should be unset14:20
mzzdigdeep: it's possible that got autoconfigured at uni and didn't get "unconfigured" elsewhere14:20
digdeepmzz, right I guess. I am not sure what to do14:21
Lazydigdeep: yeah, you should also check Preferences -> Network Proxy14:21
Lazyit probably should say direct internet connection14:22
mzzyep14:22
mzzI don't know enough about proxy autoconfiguration to know how likely it is that this is the problem14:22
mzzbut if "ping" works but http times out that's something I'd check14:22
digdeep it probably should say direct internet connection. Yes, that is the current setting14:22
Lazydigdeep: what happens when you try to telnet the google server?14:23
Lazytelnet www.google.com 8014:23
maurer_Hey, amarok is failing to play music for me--it just moves the bar indicating the position in the song left to right really quickly, making no noise14:23
digdeepLazy, need to unplug the cable, come back in a sec14:23
robin0800maurer_: that usually means it can't find the music14:26
Lazymaurer_: or missing codec?14:26
digdeepLazy, telnet www.google.com 80 --> Trying 1.0.0.0   telnet: unable to connect to remote host: no route to host14:27
Lazydigdeep: looks like dns problem14:28
Lazyor defaultroute?14:28
maurer_Lazy: It doesn't bring up an error about missing codec (the old amarok did, don't know about the new one)14:28
maurer_robin0800: File appears to be here, given that mplayer can play it14:28
Lazymaurer_: i don't know about the new amarok either, but if you had the codecs already it's not that...14:29
vistakiller1http://www.gameworld.gr/index.php?option=com_simple_review&Itemid=83&review=658-NBA-Live-10-PS3-Xbox-360-PSP-iPhone14:29
vistakiller1can anyone that use firefox see if that link works?14:29
Lazydigdeep: could you put output from command "route" to pastebin?14:29
vistakiller1it crash my broswer every time i try to open it14:29
digdeepLazy, sure, need to unplug again14:30
robin0800maurer_: I just switched from amarok to songbird much better IMHO14:30
maurer_robin0800: Yes, I was going to try songbird but the latest gstreamer on karmic breaks it.14:30
robin0800maurer_: works here fine14:31
maurer_If I can't get amarok to work, I guess I can just use an older revision of gstreamer and try to remember to upgrade later14:31
maurer_././songbird-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/gst-0.10/gst/_gst.so: undefined symbol: gst_task_pool_get_type14:31
maurer_Same error with 1.2, 1.4, 1.5a14:32
maurer_Songbird's support confirms that multiple people have this issue.14:32
bazhang!info songbird14:32
ubottuPackage songbird does not exist in karmic14:32
mzzmaurer_: odd, because gst imports just fine from the python interpreter14:33
mzzmaurer_: which songbird build?14:33
robin0800maurer_:  running 1.4.0b3, Build 130314:33
maurer_bazhang: I did not ask for support on songbird as it is not in the official repos, I was just responding to robin080014:33
dconlonHi, a fresh install of the beta yields a system that won't boot into X if an xorg.conf file exists. This sees to exist as part of the install and was not created by me. Any ideas?14:34
bazhangmaurer_, I was checking if it was in the repos14:34
maurer_mzz: I have tested the current stable (1.2), something 1.4ish a couple days ago, and just now 1.5a (build 1328)14:34
mzzmaurer_: iirc songbird bundles its own gstreamer, and it sounds like the combination of ubuntu's gst-python and songbird's gstreamer doesn't work14:35
robin0800bazhang: its not 1.2 debs are available however but the nightly build seems better to me14:36
digdeeplazy, --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/298271/14:36
Dr_Willisive had a great many issues with songbird when ive tried it.14:36
maurer_mzz: Makes sense. Maybe I should try to figure out how to repackage it from source against system gst14:36
Dr_Willismaurer_:  yep. I recall some forum threads on removing  some packages from ubuntu to get it going.. but i gave up on it.14:37
Lazydigdeep: does the mygateway1.ar7 resolve to somehing?14:37
maurer_Dr_Willis: That package is the visualizer package, and is for dealing with an nvidia driver bug, if memory serves.14:37
mzzmaurer_: may not always be possible, because iirc their gstreamer is at least occasionally patched. There's a ppa though, I'd expect that to work better than their own binaries.14:37
maurer_mzz: The ppa was my first try.14:37
mzzhum14:38
digdeepLazy, sorry, I don't know what is that14:38
Lazydigdeep: because usually you see ip address as a default gateway14:38
robin0800maurer_: the one I'm running looks like Itunes with album art scrolling at the top awesome14:38
Lazydigdeep: if you type "nslookup mygateway1.ar7" what do you see?14:39
digdeepLazy, wait14:39
Martin_vWCan anyone confirm that the window list is not working properly on karmic? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=129094614:41
mzzmaurer_: looks like the entire taskpool interface is a relatively recent addition, so I suspect the bundled gstreamer is simply too old14:41
mzzmaurer_: wonder why songbird's picking up pygst though, I didn't know they used python14:42
digdeepLazy nslookup mygateway1.ar7 --> server: 10.1.1.1 Address 10.1.1.1#5314:42
Lazylooks like a gateway problem to me14:43
Lazyoh sorry14:44
Lazyi thoght you were in 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 network14:44
Lazybut your netmask is 255.0.0.014:44
Lazydigdeep: is that 10.1.1.1 correct gateway address?14:45
robin0800maurer_: http://en.pastebin.ca/163498214:45
maurer_robin0800: That did not work how you thought it did.14:46
maurer_It gave me a file:/// url to what is presumably a screenshot on your desktop14:46
digdeepLazy, will 10.1.1.1 be visible on browser?14:46
robin0800maurer_: how do you post pictures?14:46
Lazydigdeep: sorry, i have to go now but maybe someone else can help you further14:46
BluesKajrobin0800, use imagebin14:47
maurer_http://imagebin.ca/14:47
digdeeplazy, sure, thx14:47
maurer_OK, got your image14:48
maurer_How is this supposed to help?14:48
robin0800maurer_: http://imagebin.ca/view/8F81PYF.html14:48
maurer_Yes, as I said--how does an image of the program in operation help me get it to launch?14:49
maurer_Whatever, I'll just downgrade my gstreamer14:49
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mzzmaurer_: the thing that needs downgrading is probably python-gst0.1014:50
maurer_mzz: Yes. I'm looking at some more information, and it looks like the real problem is that the system is for some reason preferring the .so in there to the .so they ship14:51
mzzmaurer_: does songbird actually ship a _gst.so?14:51
robin0800maurer_: clearly it dosn't not sure why mine works though I'm completely up to date but using pulse audio14:51
maurer_Workaround found for anyone who is having this problem14:52
maurer_Make a launcher script in /usr/local/bin/ that first sets LD_BIND_NOW=114:52
mzzmaurer_: my guess is songbird is (intentionally) using its own libgstreamer-0.10.so.0, does not use python-gst so does not bundle a _gst.so, something's pulling in the system _gst.so, and that system _gst.so is incompatible with their (older) libgstreamer-0.10.so.014:52
maurer_This will cause it to load the right shared library14:52
mzzerr, I'm not sure that fixes it the way you think it does14:53
mzzit might actually fix it by making _gst.so not load14:53
mzz(sneaky!)14:53
maurer_Well, even if _gst.so doesn't load, songbird _appears_ to work, and does play music14:53
mzzyes14:54
mzzI don't have songbird installed, but I don't expect them to be using gst-python. I'm not sure what's pulling in the system gst-python.14:54
mzzcan you check if they bundle their own _gst.so?14:54
maurer_Sure, I'll take a look14:55
mzzif they don't I'm pretty sure they're not expecting the system _gst.so to be used at all14:55
maurer_In the debug info from when I make it not load _gst though, it looks like the reason it's getting pulled is for plugins14:55
dconlonAnyone care to help with my X not booting problem?14:55
mzzhmm, actually, there's /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstpython.so14:55
mzzthis is suspicious14:55
mzzI think that's trying to support system gstreamer plugins implemented in python14:56
mzzand it's not dealing with that failing to load14:56
mzzthat could be improved14:56
mzzno, wait, that LD_BIND_NOW fixes it indicates it *does* deal with it failing to load14:56
mzzhmm.14:56
mzzmy preferred fix would be for songbird to not need its own gstreamer library and just use the system one14:57
mzzthat'd probably fix this by making _gst.so work14:57
maurer_No actual _gst shipped, but a whole bunch of other gst-dependent libs14:57
mzzyes, that sounds about right14:57
mzzhmm! ask me about this again later, I'm out of time14:58
mzz(background: I don't currently use songbird, but I do know a bunch of stuff about it and about extending and embedding python, so I can make fairly educated guesses about how this breaks)14:59
unknown_hello, anyone one of you Guys, know any working way how to play WMV files on x64 version of ubuntu 9.10 ? With i386 I don't have any problems, but x64 looks like have many codecs missing14:59
mbeierlunknown_: just checking, but do you have w64codecs installed?15:02
unknown_mbeirl: yes of course I do, but those w64codecs inside have only 3-4 files instead of >30 in w32codecs..15:03
unknown_mbeirl: totem doesn't work, mplayer doesn't work either, I have only sound15:05
raff_is 9.10 release quite useable?15:05
virtualdwho's working on upstart?15:06
unknown_raff_: It works for me very well for long time already15:06
mbeierlunknown_: ooo.  hadn't looked - I unfortunately tend to use my laptop for development, not media so much...15:14
unknown_mbeierl: maybe the output from mplayer will help somehow: http://pastebin.com/m3109e7ca it looks like wmsdmod codec isn't installed... :/15:15
carmelitaHi, I'm trying kubuntu 9.10 beta15:15
iokaI could not make it to start lighttpd with php.I'm tired15:15
iokawill try gain tomorrow15:15
iokacya15:15
carmelitaI have a problem with a resiserfs partition, all files that have accesnts or "ñ" seem not to exists as soon as you try to copy or modify them. But they are all listed. How can i correct the error?15:16
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carmelitaI triesd modifing the locales, converting all to UTF815:17
carmelitabut the system is not able to modify the files to UTF815:18
carmelitaI can't modify them manually, I have no idea what to do, please help me15:18
cochiseHi, anyone having problems with the ubuntu key server?15:28
mbeierlunknown_: sorry - have to run just as I think I might have been getting somewhere:  did you cover this already?  (if so, sorry for wasting time :( ) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=123217315:33
vanishinganyone here using irc with empathy?15:37
jarnosI am having problem with lirc after upgrade from 9.04.15:38
unknown_mbeierl: Not wasting my time, you trying to help me :) I'll try to follow every step there + test all related links :) I will tell result, thank you15:40
jarnosI can't see keypresses of my remote by irw15:41
BluesKajhmm, no new updates today15:44
mbeierlunknown_: page 2 or 3 indicated that certain codecs simply cannot be done as 64bit...15:48
mbeierlis the current boot progress for everyone a plain monochrome "circle of friends" and nothing more?  I find this very dull after 9.04 and was hoping something a little more shiny would come up\15:49
Andy80hi all16:00
Andy80has anyone any idea about how to fix this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/455417 ?16:01
Andy80I had no feedback/reply :\16:01
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/455417)16:01
robin0800Andy80: I prefer pulse audio volume control16:05
Andy80robin0800: and what is that?16:06
Andy80anyway... it doesn't detect my soundcard, but only sometimes16:07
robin0800its a different type of volume control also try multimedia settings a hidden menu option16:07
Andy80robin0800: where can I find it?16:11
Andy80where is the hidden menu?16:11
robin0800Andy80: right click the menu choose edit it is the preferences disabled by default16:17
Andy80robin0800: right click on which menu?16:19
xray7224why is jscalibrator not in karmic16:20
xray7224has it just not been packaed or is there a reason ?16:20
xray7224*packaged16:21
robin0800Andy80: the main menu on the taskbar16:21
Andy80robin0800: you mean the System->Preferences menu?16:22
tgpraveengnome bug #44388416:23
ubottuGnome bug 443884 in Multi User Chat "red-line indicating last time I saw the given MUC/IRC channel/etc." [Enhancement,New] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44388416:23
robin0800Andy80: yes just choose edit menus16:23
tgpraveengnome bug #57915916:24
ubottuGnome bug 579159 in Archives "Add pidgin log store" [Enhancement,New] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57915916:24
Andy80robin0800: I've all voices enabled... maybe I don't have it installed... just tell me what do I have to install/execute from terminal16:24
Andy80it's better :)16:24
tgpraveen#59916816:25
robin0800Andy80: This its official name Multimedia Systems Selector16:25
Andy80robin0800: ahh! you did mean gstreamer-properties, ok! and... once there what do I have to do?16:26
robin0800Andy80: no its a menu to launch Multimedia Systems Selector16:27
Andy80robin0800: ok.... once I've started Multimedia System Selector... what do I have to do with it?16:28
robin0800Andy80: Take it off auto16:28
mersaultIs it possible to play the music off my iPhone in Rhythmbox? I don't care about syncing (I sync with a Mac at home), but I'd like to be able to play the music on my iPhone through Rythmbox at work.16:28
Andy80robin0800: Audio --> Default Output --> Default Plugin: I change from "Autodetect" to "Pulse Audio" ?16:29
robin0800Andy80: yes if thats what you want some people prefer alsa but pulse audio works fine for me16:30
Andy80robin0800: Pulse would be ok, but.... as I told you, my soundcard is not detected in this moment... do you think there is a particular reason for this bug?16:31
robin0800Andy80: now install the pulse audio volume control  from software centre16:32
robin0800Andy80: did you test16:32
Andy80installing...16:33
Andy80"No cards available for configuration"16:34
Andy80:P16:34
CShadowRunAnyone know where i can find the "Why did my computer just randomly switch itself off" logs?16:34
Andy80robin0800: Pulse audio volume control cannot make miracles...16:34
robin0800Andy80: look just found this with google http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94068916:38
lanoxxhi, can anyone tell me which packet is System->Preferences->Apperance?16:38
Andy80robin0800: it's a different distro (8.10) a different audio server (ALSA) and a completely different problem (in that case it never works, in my case sometimes doesn't work), so.... how could I get any help from that?16:40
lemonadelanoxx: gnome-control-center16:41
lanoxxlemonade, thx16:43
robin0800Andy80: last try alsamixer in a terminal16:47
JohnFluxHi all16:47
Andy80robin0800: it says Card: HDA Intel                                                                                                                                           │16:48
Andy80│ Chip: Nvidia MCP78 HDMI16:48
Andy80is there any way to restart audio service?16:48
JohnFluxI've upgraded to 9.10, and noticed that Kubuntu is using an old version of the knetworkmanager applet16:48
JohnFluxbille (author) has made a load of important fixes and improvements to it since then16:49
Andy80sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart, doesn't work16:49
JohnFluxany chance of it being upgraded16:49
darthanubisAndy80, killall -9 pulseaudio, then alt-f2 pulseaudio16:50
* jimpop notices for a second day that Karmic is working well now.16:51
PrebenRthx16:51
PrebenRanybody know how to get gdm to offer custom session?16:52
Andy80darthanubis: it didn't work: I mean... the sound card is still not detected...16:52
PrebenRI need it to use my .xsesion file to load dwm etc..16:52
quiescensintermittent freeze on resume is tedious ):16:53
darthanubisAndy80, restarting PA will not detect your sound card16:53
bjsniderJohnFlux, at this late stage in the development process, absolutely not16:53
JohnFluxbjsnider: hum16:53
JohnFluxbjsnider: yet another release with a broken network manager :-(16:53
darthanubislol16:53
darthanubisthere is no broken network manager16:53
darthanubisI don't even think Kubuntu still uses knetworkmanager16:54
bjsnideryou might want to go to a k specific channel like #kubuntu or something. try to find Riddell16:54
PrebenRgdm is broken though...16:54
JohnFluxyeah there's no #kubuntu+116:54
Andy80darthanubis: who detects my soundcard then?16:54
lanoxxchecking for CAPPLET... configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.15.0  glib-2.0 >= 2.17.4  gio-2.0  gconf-2.0  libxml-2.0  gnome-desktop-2.0 >= 2.25.1) were not met: No package 'gconf-2.0' found No package 'libxml-2.0' found No package 'gnome-desktop-2.0' found16:54
JohnFluxso it's a choice between here or #kubuntu16:55
lanoxxwhat does that mean16:55
PrebenRanybody know how to get gdm to offer custom session?16:56
bjsniderlanoxx, whatever you're trying to compile, run apt-get build-dep packagename16:56
lanoxxbjsnider, thx16:56
bjsnideryou lack the build dependencies for it16:56
bjsniderdarthanubis, what does kde4 use instead of knetworkmanager?16:57
lanoxxbjsnider, one more question, will the patches in ./debian/patches be automatically applied once i build the package?16:57
bjsnidernot if you are building it yourself they won't16:58
lanoxxbjsnider, or ist there anything else i have to take care of? Maybe you could point me to some general documentation on how the packages are structured?16:58
darthanubisbjsnider, looking into it now. I reember them switching to something else.16:58
bjsnideri see16:58
bjsniderlanoxx, are you trying to construct a debian package?16:59
lanoxxbjsnider, no im trying to find a bug in a package16:59
bjsniderwell i'm not sure exactly how you're trying to do that but i'd submit a bug and talk to the devs about it16:59
lanoxxbjsnider, so i want to find the exact code piece where i thing the problem is, and thats in one of the patches to i guess i would first need to apply the patch17:00
bjsniderpatches are applied by quilt or dpatch during the debian build process17:00
darthanubisbjsnider, it is the network settings native to KDE 4.317:00
lanoxxbjsnider, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/413385 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/26929217:00
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/413385)17:01
bjsniderdarthanubis, not sure exactly what that means17:01
darthanubiskdenetwork17:01
darthanubissearch synaptic for kdenetwork17:01
menzza!alsa-mixer17:01
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about alsa-mixer17:01
darthanubisremove kdeneworkmanager17:01
bjsniderwell, i'm not _that_ interested17:01
darthanubis1info kdenetwork17:01
bjsniderjust mildly curious17:02
darthanubis!info kdenetwork17:02
ubottukdenetwork (source: kdenetwork): networking applications from the official KDE 4 release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.3.2-0ubuntu4 (karmic), package size 32 kB, installed size 88 kB17:02
lanoxxbjsnider, do you have any idea what i have to do to apply a patch from debian/patches?17:10
whitedaHello, I have updated to Karmic on a machine that had been created from jaunty xubuntu then had gnome desktop and kubuntu desktop added - now that I upgraded to karmic - I seem to have updated gnome and xubuntu apps but I have 600 plus mostly KDE apps that are held back by apt-get upgrade.  How do I get everything?????17:12
Polarinawhiteda: aptitude full-upgrade17:13
whitedathanks Polarina - I'll try it17:13
amgarchIn9people that use KDE, do you have Shutdown button in Leave-menu? I dont! I run KDE grom GDM selector.17:15
whitedaPolarina, that looks like it's going to do it, thanks again.17:19
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quiescenshmm17:19
ArmageddonGius, I tried to update Ubuntu using the CD but it did a partial upgrade and now gnome looks like the one on Debian and source package doesn't work17:20
Armageddonguys*17:20
quiescenshow do you make karmic remove modules before suspend again?17:23
quiescensis it the same as it used to be or has it changed because of the devicekit stuff17:23
quiescensarmageddon: how did you do a partial upgrade? using the update manager?17:25
Armageddonquiescens: I was using the alternative CD17:26
Armageddonyes using update manager17:27
quiescensupdate-manager -d17:27
quiescensor whatever17:27
CydeSwypehas anyone had trouble or luck accepting meeting invites in evolution to a Google calendar?17:29
CydeSwypei have a bug into launchpad, but could use some other confirmation of the bug17:29
CydeSwypehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/43426217:30
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/434262)17:30
om26erany ubuntu moblin remix user with bags of bugs17:31
Dr_Willismobilin and bag of bugs = an understatement. :)17:33
om26erDr_Willis: what would be your words about that17:34
Dr_WillisI couldent even figure out how to do half the things i wanted to do with the last moblin release i tried.. and it dident work very well..17:35
tj83_can somone please help me! all i want to do is clear all of network-manager-gnome's files where i have made different connection. "purge" doesnt cut it. i tried to purge network-manager pptp-linux network-manager-gnome network-manager-pptp ppp, upon re-installation all settings are as they were... where are these files at?17:35
Dr_Willisbut then the wife took my netbook. So i havent tried  it again this month17:35
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tj83_Dr_Willis, can you help with that?17:36
om26erDr_Willis: i would say release is 7 days away and it contains bugs that i don't think are gonna get fixed by release date17:36
tj83_past versions of ubuntu purge worked fine17:36
Dr_Willisom26er:  Hmm I thought ubuntu Moblin was a different project then the Ubuntu netbook remix.17:37
Dr_Willisbut all these netbook variants get confuseing. and i hate the dumbed down netbook interfaces.17:38
om26erDr_Willis: actually i agree. after testing many netbook variants i am back to karmic desktop and its really kick ass17:39
quiescensI find they only make much sense if its a touchscreen17:39
Guest99822Hi from Berlin17:39
Guest99822anyone having ATI x700? and got it running in 1280*1024 under Karmic?17:39
tj83_anyone know where network-manager profiles are located?17:40
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edgyGuest34396: I have R700 and it's working17:42
Dr_Willisperhaps in the users home directory somewhere tj83_17:42
BluesKajtj83_, install wicd by adding this repos to your sources.list , it auto-removes network manager17:42
BluesKaj!info wicd17:42
tj83_Dr_Willis, i searched and searched to no avail17:42
ubottuwicd (source: wicd): wired and wireless network manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.1-3ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 415 kB, installed size 2464 kB17:42
tj83_BluesKaj, i have no problem dumping network-manager, problem is the profile is left behind even with purge17:42
BluesKajtj83_, deb http://apt.wicd.net karmic extras17:43
Dr_Willistj83_:  try moving the users home directory and remaking it and see if it vanishes..17:43
quiescenstj83_: ~/.gconf/system/networking17:43
jemandedgy ist it a question of xorg.conf or where do I start the puzzle?17:43
tj83_quiescens, ty! let me check that out!17:43
quiescensbecause the connection profiles are userlevel profiles unless explicitly specified otherwise17:43
edgyjemand: ask at #ati17:44
Dr_Willisquiescens:  thats what i was figuring also.17:44
om26erubuntu will release with gnome 2.28 or 2.28.1 ?17:45
Dr_Willis2.28.0  would be my guess17:45
darthanubisI think what it says on the webpage would be right17:45
om26er2.28.1 is out17:46
Dr_Willisdosent matter if its out or not.17:46
jemandTHX17:46
om26erand some packages are 2.28.117:46
om26erlike totem empathy17:46
Dr_Willisthe frezzes have gone in to effect. - but it could be they consider .1 a trival version change. or security updates17:46
Dr_Willis!schedule17:47
ubottuA schedule of Karmic Koala (9.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule17:47
oldude67i dont think that their going to make any drastic changes less then 8 days till release.17:47
lanoxxrunning gnome-session-save should produce a file like ~/.gnome2/session or not?17:48
Dr_Willis'final freeze' = oct 1517:48
Dr_Willisoct 22 = release canidate. :)17:48
Dr_WillisHmm that tomorrow.17:48
om26erbut yesterday empathy 2.28.1 came17:48
Dr_Willisdoes it really matter? :)17:48
oldude67om26er, well then t will probably in next release17:48
om26eris there a way to make new session for gnome-shell17:49
Dr_WillisFinalFreeze  EXTREMELY anal-retentive, high-caution period until the FinalRelease goes out. ReleaseTeam and relevant section team confirmed fixes only!17:49
PolarinaDr_Willis: That's Window's 7 release date!17:49
Polarina:O17:49
Dr_Willisi couldent even figure out how to use gnome-shell :)17:50
Dr_WillisPolarina:  woopiee. :P17:50
om26erDr_Willis: install gnome shell17:50
corp186when I run apt-get with package resolver debug output I get "Package pulseaudio has broken Depends on libpulse0"17:50
om26ertype gnome-shell --replace17:50
corp186how do I continue debugging this issue?17:50
lanoxxDr_Willis, do you know how gnome-session-save works?17:51
NRVatewouldnt that indicate libpulse0 won't install?17:52
NRVateso you'd then want to figure out why libpulse0 won't install?17:52
Dr_Willislanoxx:  not really messed with ot.17:52
corp186NRVate: libpulse0 is installed17:52
corp186NRVate: but it's libpulse0 1:0.9.19-0ubuntu217:53
corp186NRVate: the latest is -0ubuntu3 I believe17:53
Pconfighey, i have a dependency issue. I upgraded to karmic beta 2 days ago. Before karmic a had some ppa repo enabled to give me vdpau support so xine got updated to a version in that repo. Now karmic ships the same version and for some reason libxine-ffmpeg get removed during the update. When i want to install the lib now it depends on the official ubuntu version but i can't seem to change the xinelib i have installed now17:53
corp186but it won't still it17:53
nemojoaopinto: Hey, sent you an updated e-mail.17:53
nemojoaopinto: clearly that opengl feature is not reliably supported by either manufacturer17:53
lanoxxDr_Willis, man gnome-session specifies 3 files of which neither of them are present17:55
lanoxxDr_Willis, any idea how that could be?17:55
joaopintonemo, ok, didn't check the email yet :\17:55
Dr_Willislanoxx:  ive not messed with gnome session management in years. so Nope. :)17:55
Dr_Willisbbl17:55
lanoxxanyone else have an idea?17:56
oldude67anyone know where vbox web page can be found?17:56
NRVatehmm.. current version of pulseaudio depends on the newer version?17:56
oldude67!info vbox17:56
ubottuPackage vbox does not exist in karmic17:56
NRVatehmm.. you on i386 or amd64?17:56
NRVate@corpl8617:56
oldude67o b. s.17:56
NRVateyou are correct, 0ubuntu3 is current for libpulse017:57
NRVatepulseaudio is also 0u3 now.17:58
oldude67!info virtualbox17:58
ubottuPackage virtualbox does not exist in karmic17:58
NRVate!info pulseaudio17:59
ubottupulseaudio (source: pulseaudio): PulseAudio sound server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.9.19-0ubuntu3 (karmic), package size 586 kB, installed size 4200 kB17:59
NRVateneat.17:59
fahadsadahCanonical no longer support ACL?17:59
fahadsadahHow comes? It's a core part of linux.17:59
nemojoaopinto: just as well ;)17:59
kaddi!vbox | oldude67 maybe you're looking for this?17:59
ubottuoldude67 maybe you're looking for this?: virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from the package 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox17:59
nemojoaopinto: NPOTT saves a little memory, but clearly is just not reliable. at least in ATI/nvidia18:00
corp186NRVate: output from apt-get: http://pastebin.com/d5527751c18:01
kaddi!info virtualbox-ose | oldude67 or possibly this:18:01
ubottuoldude67: virtualbox-ose (source: virtualbox-ose): x86 virtualization solution - base binaries. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.8-dfsg-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 6182 kB, installed size 24292 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 lpia all)18:01
oldude67dont want the one in repos, it wont support usb..but thanks kaddi18:02
giggseyI installed the Beta, and the wifi worked fine (I have an Atheros Ar5001 chip), but after doing updates and rebooting the wireless stopped working. It says Wifi is turned off (stil finds a driver). Hardware switch affects nothing. Any ideas?18:02
falstaff|hsometimes i see grub 1.97, sometimes not, why? When I just reboot, i dont see it...18:03
eagles0513875oldude67: ask in vbox if your having issues18:03
NRVateyea, just noticing the same deal, that the .18->.19 upgrade is being held back18:03
quiescensi would imagine you could probably google virtualbox18:03
eagles0513875quiescens: they have a channel on here18:03
ck773olddude67: you want the non-free available on the website, virtualbox.org18:03
oldude67eagles0513875, dont have issues was just trying to find the homepage18:03
eagles0513875oldude67: let me get it for ya18:03
lanoxx!gnome-control-center18:03
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:03
lanoxx!gnome-control-center18:04
eagles0513875oldude67: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads18:04
lanoxxwho is the maintainer of gnome-control-center?18:04
oldude67eagles0513875, got it thanks.18:04
eagles0513875no problem18:04
quiescensi would still bet that it would have been the first result for googling virtualbox18:04
quiescensnodnod18:04
oldude67quiescens, no it wasnt thanks anyways.18:04
quiescensI suppose you have a different google to me then18:05
oldude67quiescens, well im sorry that you have to refer everyone to google, just for a simple question..18:05
quiescenswell kaddi already got the url by typing !vbox before I suggested google so I probably didn't need to try googling it18:09
oldude67quiescens, sheesh drop it.18:10
ha1331Just upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10. All went pretty well, except for the fact that I had VirtualBox with XP client and after upgrade I didn't have the image anymore. So I lost the whole XP.18:13
ha1331And these days when I start playing movie on smplayer, on start of the movie I get loud cracking noise from speakers.18:14
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quiescensthe upgrade deleted the disk image or something?18:14
ha1331plus the picture jerks and almost freeses and all sound disapears if I put it on fullscreen. It starts to work if I rewind the movie18:15
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OmnipotentEntityOn my wireless: Karmic Koala Carelessly Kills my Card with Current Kernel.18:15
OmnipotentEntity:)18:15
nemojoaopinto: oh. latest patch should also fix problem where some video cards weren't reporting their max texture size - assumes 1024 if 0 is returned (that unfortunately reduces quality, but better than assuming 2048 and just erroring)18:15
ha1331quiescens: yes. I still have the virtual box but the image disapearred18:15
quiescensshe sells sea shells18:15
eagles0513875kde the network manage doesnt even connect to my wireless as well as not store the connection info and password18:15
quiescensstrange18:16
quiescenswhere was the disk image being stored18:16
ha1331quiescens: actually even the virtual machine is there on the list but if I try to start it, it just tell's me no disk image18:16
lanoxxwhy is launchpad so damn slow recently18:16
quiescensthe image might still be somewhere18:17
ha1331quiescens: it's no biggie. Just had it for photoshop and something else. Not a biggie, just 20 minutes and I', back in busines18:18
quiescensmaybe find out the filename of the disk image its trying to use and search for it and then add the disk image back into the virtualbox disk manager18:18
ha1331just wanted to tell what happened18:18
pratik_narainis something being done in karmic regarding ati graphics cards18:19
Theresiahey guys... i've got a problem with the kubuntu 9.10 beta. i installed the os successfully on my hd. but the operating system isn't booting after a reboot. the boot-configuration in the bios is alright. i don't know what i shall do :/18:20
quiescensstill, it would be nice to know whether the disk was actually deleted or something18:20
quiescensor just misplaced18:20
om26erTheresia: come again18:20
quiescensbecause if it actually deleted it or something then it would pose a significant data loss risk18:20
om26erTheresia: any other os was installed before18:21
OmnipotentEntityquiescens, you can look up the name of the virtual machine in virtualbox configuration18:21
om26erTheresia: mac or win18:21
om26erTheresia: or any other distro18:21
OmnipotentEntityand the machines are stored in ~/.VirtualBox18:21
quiescensnot me18:21
Theresiaom26er: Nope, it's a new Velociraptor18:22
quiescenstheresia: any error or anything?18:22
Twigathyw00t, my NFS mounts in fstab actually mounted on boot this time :D18:23
Twigathyhurrah for updates :)18:23
shawn_What exactly is Ubuntu one?18:24
om26erTwigathy: yes its really great18:24
OmnipotentEntityAnyway, my card is atheros AR5001X+, and the ath_pci module isn't available anymore for my kernel, it seems like, and the ath5k driver is buggy and slow (ath9k is not applicable to my card) any idea?18:24
om26ershawn_: online web storage service from canonical with 2gb free space18:24
shawn_om26er, Oh and I can access it anywhere?18:25
om26ershawn_: sure18:25
Theresiaquiescens: The only "error" I can see is when I shut down after the install... There is something said about "process xxx killed by bus system" ... But it's a error-message like that one's I had in my previous ubuntu 9.04-installation18:25
quiescensI mean18:25
quiescenswhen you try to boot it18:25
ninjahWhen Empathy beeps it does so at maximum volume. How do I change that?18:25
quiescenswhat do you get?18:25
om26ershawn_: u can extend that to 50gb by paying18:25
shawn_om26er, Would be useful if I didnt have my own server xD18:25
Theresiaquiescens: I just get nothing... There is just the blinking "_" after "Verifying DMI Pool Data ..........."18:26
Truman_Hey all, I'm having some trouble booting the 9.10 live cd on a 5.5 macbook pro -- it starts loading things, "Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd [OK] .." etc, until it gets to "Checking battery state... ... [OK]" then it says "...done." and just sits with a blinking cursor.  I let it sit awhile, but it hasn't changed in ten minutes or so.  Any ideas?18:26
om26ershawn_: i don't know about that but i guess its not for server18:26
quiescensmm18:28
quiescensI don't know exactly18:28
quiescensI would probably try putting the hard drive higher than the cd drive in the boot order and then put a bootable cd in18:28
quiescenssee if its actually trying to boot the hd or if its not finding anything bootable at all18:29
Theresiaquiescens: 1 moment18:29
Theresiai did as you told me18:30
Theresiathe cd is not booting18:30
Theresiajust the blinking "_"18:30
quiescenshard to say if its not giving an error18:31
om26erTheresia: try a bootable usb18:31
Theresiaom26er: Installing ubuntu on the usb-device?18:31
om26erTheresia: from the usb i guess18:32
om26erTheresia: although you might also give a try to install on a usb it might work18:33
om26erTheresia: ***just to check18:33
quiescensdid you install grub to /dev/sda18:33
quiescensor um18:33
om26erTheresia: any extra usb connected18:34
Theresiaquiescens: hum... i just followed the setup... i'll check it. no, no extra usb-devices18:34
ninjahEmpathy Bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/45111318:34
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/451113)18:35
ninjahEmpathy Bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/45111318:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 451113 in ubuntu "BIOS beeping Sounds Occur when backspacing in empty text box in Empathy and Pidgin" [Undecided,New]18:36
om26erTheresia: give it a try again18:36
Theresia@work.18:36
quiescensI can't remember whether grub installs to mbr or superblock18:38
om26erquiescens: mbr18:38
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lazarusi just upgraded to ubuntu karmic, i have an ATi card and graphics are not working properly, i cannot see the desktop18:42
lazarushelp please18:42
Theresiahum, grub HAS TO BE on sda? sdc is a problem?18:42
quiescensno18:43
om26erTheresia: sda is you harddrive if you boot from you harddrive then grub needs to be installed on sda18:43
om26erlazarus: ATI worked on jaunty??18:44
TheresiaTy!18:44
lazarusyes18:44
om26erlazarus: did a clean install? or  upgrade from jaunty?18:45
lazarusupgrade from jaunty18:45
quiescenstheresia: if there's only one hard drive then it probably should be sda18:45
om26erTheresia: you have done nothing wrong you just need a new install18:46
om26erTheresia: again18:46
JesperHansenhi, I am trying to install 9.10 beta from a usb stick. Downloaded the ISO, mounted it in daemon tools, used the usb util that followed and checked the integraty of the stick and its ok. I am however gettings errors. "Can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow"... The casper.log is http://pastebin.org/46737 and dmesg is http://pastebin.org/46738 - NOTE: Both are with DEBUG= kernel boot option.18:46
rob0Any bootloader has to be on whatever device the BIOS will attempt to boot from.18:46
om26erlazarus: do you have a karmic live cd?? if yes!! try to run it and see if you desktop comes up18:47
lazarusthe live cd works18:47
om26erlazarus: that's weired18:49
om26erlazarus: try running recovery mode18:49
lazaruson it now18:50
om26erlazarus: when you get shell in type gdm and enter i might work18:50
om26erlazarus: yes try it now and come back again18:50
lazarussame problem18:51
phakois there really no progress indicator if the system decides it is time to check my harddrive?18:52
om26erlazarus: omg!! i don't know anything further sorry18:52
lazarusom26er, WARNING: Unable to find users: no seat-id found18:53
lazarusom26er, thats what gdm binary says18:53
om26erlazarus: something is wrong there i think18:54
lazarusom26er, laptop just overheated18:54
om26erlazarus: so you really cant reinstall??18:54
lazarusom26er, still have data, reinstall is my last resort, im trying an older kernel18:55
om26erlazarus: that won't work i guess18:56
lazarusom26er, thanks for the help18:56
om26erlazarus: i never helped you.18:57
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lazarusom26er, no worries18:58
tdcrenshawlazerus: boot into recovery mode, then type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf under Section: "Device" comment out the driver section then reboot18:59
quiescenslazarus: does it finish booting?18:59
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Armageddonquiescens, yes18:59
quiescenswhat happens? blank screen?19:00
Armageddontdcrenshaw, I will try that19:00
quiescensgarbled screen?19:00
Armageddonquiescens, no, freaked up screen19:00
quiescensdoes ctrl-alt-f1 still get you to a console login?19:00
quiescensor is it frozen19:00
pratik_narainis something being done in karmic regarding ati graphics cards19:00
Armageddonquiescens, now it is freezing19:01
quiescensso ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't work when it happens19:01
Armageddonnow no19:02
om26erpratik_narain: probably kernel 2.26.3219:02
quiescensyou could probably try renaming /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if it works with default xorg settings19:04
JesperHansenHow often can you possibly repeat a question?19:08
hsarcirythmbox starts with my macine even though is not in my "Startup programs" list....any ideas??19:08
quiescensif you mean me, I wasn't sure what they meant by "now"19:09
TheresiaI reinstalled...19:10
om26erTheresia: and now its working??19:10
TheresiaWhen I say "restart" after the installation, there are 3 lines of code and the pc is not rebooting:19:10
om26erpower off19:10
Theresiathe loc dont matter?!19:10
Theresiak19:11
Theresiai love you guys, it is working. and it's fucking fast :D19:12
Theresiathank you, bye!19:13
hsarcirythmbox starts with my macine even though is not in my "Startup programs" list....any ideas??19:15
zookoHi folks!  Phoronix benchmark shows huge performance regression for Karmic in sqlite insertions: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=freebsd8_ubuntu910&num=719:20
zooko(Otherwise Karmic performance looks good.)19:20
quiescensits an ext4 thing19:25
quiescensnot entirely sure why19:26
zookoYeah.19:28
porter1Anyone else experiencing more pulseaudio problems (protocol-native.c: Failed to push data into queue) stuff?19:28
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OmnipotentEntityMy card is atheros AR5001X+, and the ath_pci module isn't available anymore for my kernel, it seems like, and the ath5k driver is buggy and slow (ath9k is not applicable to my card) any idea?19:32
chansonwhere does KWin log when it crashes? I have an intermittent error where KWin will sometimes not allow compositing sometimes a reboot fixes sometimes not, I am fully updated/upgraded through aptitude19:33
chansonI have looked at the .xsession_errors and can't really find anything that would lead me in a direction, I am using an intel 965 card19:36
duffydackwas the option "require me to login to decrypt my home folder" there in karmic beta installer?19:51
* duffydack installing a daily-live, dont remember seeing it before.19:51
tavastiwhat replaces vol_id in karmic? udev package does not include that anymore19:55
alankilablkid19:57
tavastithanks19:58
sdgFFS Karmic just crashed and I lost data AGAIN19:59
JesperHansenI am trying to install 9.10 beta from a usb stick. Downloaded the ISO, mounted it in daemon tools, used the usb util that followed and checked the integraty of the stick and its ok. I am however gettings errors. "Can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow"... The casper.log is http://pastebin.org/46737 and dmesg is http://pastebin.org/46738 - NOTE: Both are with DEBUG= kernel boot option.20:00
sebsebsebJesperHansen: Deamontools does not get used to install Ubuntu!20:02
JesperHansensebsebseb, its used to mount the iso and using the usb util.20:02
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ck773Jesper: did you try a utility like unetbootin to make your bootable usb stick?20:05
ck773Jesper: There is good help here with various methods for doing what you are attempting: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick20:06
JesperHansenck773, trying the UNetbootin thing instead now.20:12
ck773JesperHansen: It seems to make good sense..20:13
ck773JesperHansen: Note that you will need to have the .iso for Karmic handy as UNetbootin will not have the beta version available yet.20:15
edgyHi, when I click shutdown from the menu in kubuntu it didn't work!20:19
JesperHansenck773, same error there. Will download a daily to see if it also has the fault20:22
rrredsyeah i have a question20:23
gorthaughi20:23
rrredsi have a wireless device20:23
rrredsthat is recognized by ubuntu20:23
rrredsbut does not run20:23
rrredswill not connect to internet through the wirelees device?20:24
rrredscan any one tell me what to do20:24
rrredsi have a linksys20:24
rrredsand ubuntu 820:24
thiebaudeJesperHansen, im using a daily from today, what is the problem?20:25
rrredsmy wireless device doesnt work20:25
ck773rrreds: Go to the #ubuntu channel for non-beta support.20:25
JesperHansenthiebaude, "Can not mount /dev/loop1 on /cow"... The casper.log is http://pastebin.org/4673720:25
JesperHansenI found 1 bug report about it, but I found it more confusing than useful20:26
thiebaudeJesperHansen, haven't found no problem since i dont mount anything20:27
BoxMagnetany idea why my harddrive is so hot on my laptop on ubuntu?20:27
ck773oh geez..I have tried with loopback partitions...and Karmic had trouble booting them for me as well20:27
BoxMagnetit was not like this in winblows20:27
JesperHansenthiebaude, its the live "cd" (actually usb stick) that mounts during the upstart that fails.20:28
thiebaudeJesperHansen, ahh, ok i see what your saying20:28
thiebaudeJesperHansen, i burnt a alternate cd 2 hrs ago20:29
undeconstructedhi, has anyone found their gnome panel's suddenly have suddenly become invisible?  I just started eclipse, and now I can't see the panels at all, although I can still click on them, and they work fine20:30
Snotty_Hi, Who likes Karmic koala? I definitly think that karmic is best OS ever.20:39
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thiebaudeSnotty_, i love it20:39
thiebaudeSnotty_, its the only OS on my computer20:40
chansonWhere would I find the debug logs for KWin crashes besides in .xsession-errors?20:41
elvirolohi20:43
elvirolois anyone using kubuntu able to connect to secure wifi networks with knetworkmanager ?20:43
jimlovell777After installing all available updates for karmic if I select more than one video to be played in Totem only the first video has sound. To hear the next video I have to close Totem and re-open for the file. Is this a known issue?20:43
BluesKajanyone get any updates today ...I haven't20:45
jemarkBluesKaj, me neither, only some ppa updates... ;)20:46
thiebaudeBluesKaj, not me, either20:46
thiebaudeBluesKaj, and 2 hrs ago i installed the daily cd20:47
jemarkthiebaude, it's probably the rc ;)20:47
BluesKajok, the repos aren't being loaded today ...maybe the the lull before the storm next week :)20:47
thiebaudejemark, its sure stable for me20:47
jemarkthiebaude, also stable here :) much better ATI and Intel video support.20:48
BluesKajare those older numbered rt patches that end up on grub, safe to delete ?20:49
thiebaudejemark, thats cool, flash is very good and in full screen20:49
whirleystarhi folks. i upgraded from jaunty to karmic beta, intel-video, now i have vertical bars instead of an X login, and fuzzy bars (one blinks) when ctrl-alt-f1 to terminal.... i think the blinking one is a gigantic cursor20:49
jemarkthiebaude, yes, on my newer laptop with the i965 intel card (X3100) it's good too.20:50
thiebaudewhirleystar, which intel card20:50
thiebaudejemark, i have nvidia20:50
jemarkthiebaude, nvidia is very good supported under linux.20:51
whirleystarlaptop: gateway M-6834,  video: Intel GMA X310020:51
jemarkwhirleystar, I have no problems with this card...20:52
thiebaudejemark, yep, it sure is,20:53
jemarkwhirleystar, In fact, I'm typing on a Dell Inspiron 1525 with a X3100 card.20:53
* thiebaude i cant wait until the release party20:53
fcuk112_the party is in my pants.20:56
fcuk112_just kidding.20:56
whirleystarhmm... i did "update-notifier-kde -d" confirmed that everything installed before rebooting... i have had two boots that worked, not the first nor the last20:57
fcuk112_any release party in london?20:57
d33dQuestion - Is there a problem with the Main Menu configuration program? When I select "System Tools" and check off a few applications, they aren't posting back to the Main Menu...21:01
tonyyarussofcuk112_: I know that there is, but don't have the details.  See if it's on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseParties21:02
d33dFalse alarm, looks like its working now.21:04
elvirolohum, it seems i can't connect to WEP either although it works with nm-applet21:07
iokahello21:08
iokawhen I start /etc/init.d/dhcpd I get not such file of directory /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.config .THe file exist21:09
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whirleystarso, i used ssh to get in, is there some way i can check for necessary driver version for intel x3100?21:12
jemarkwhirleystar, I use X.Org X Server 1.6.4.90121:14
jemarkwhirleystar, you can check it in the xorg log file...21:15
NRVateman guys, karmic is looking pretty sweet.  nice going.21:15
whirleystarjust looked there, grepped "EE" and got (EE) intel(0): I830 Dma Initialization Failed21:15
dominic_I have a pretty serious problem with update manager21:16
dominic_every time i click "check for new updates", i get a notification of "Installation defaults for Gnome power manager has failed" or something...21:17
dominic_*has failed = have not installed correctly21:18
dominic_can anyone help?21:18
dominic_i tried going into synaptic to install, but it told me to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" because it was broken. I ran it, and that didn't work21:18
dominic_It gives a parse error on line 2821:19
dominic_can anyone heklp?21:19
jt76has anyone here every used Crossover?21:19
Travis-42one of the recent updates made notifications from rhythmbox really tiny (can't read anything). Any idea how to fix this?21:19
darthanubis!patience | dominic_21:20
ubottudominic_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search  https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.21:20
whirleystarjemark: X.org server: 1.6.4-2ubuntu3, intel module: compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 2.4.121:21
dominic_huh? oh...sorry...didn't mean to repeat myself :)21:22
dominic_lol21:22
jemarkwhirleystar, Module intel: vendor="X.Org Foundation"21:23
jemarkcompiled for 1.6.4.901, module version = 2.9.021:23
jemarkModule class: X.Org Video Driver21:23
jemarkABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.021:23
darthanubis!flood | jemark21:23
ubottujemark: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at  http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic21:23
vanishinghmmm..no updates today?21:23
darthanubisvanishing, of course not, RC tomorrow21:23
vanishingoh..21:23
vanishingno wonder..forgot rc21:24
jemarkvanishing, only pidgin for me...21:24
darthanubishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule21:24
vanishinghmmm..karmic development is not that exciting..21:24
vanishingdid not see any major breakage.21:25
whirleystarjemark: ouch... it looks like have a really old intel module21:25
vanishinganyone here gonna go straight to lynx development test?21:25
vanishingafter karmic of course.21:25
jemarkwhirleystar, http://pastebin.com/d2149b67d21:26
jemarkwhirleystar, there you have the full xorg.0.log file ;)21:26
jemarkwhirleystar, used the ppa from ubuntu-tweak...21:27
jemarkwhirleystar, are you still there? i have to go now.21:29
whirleystarjemark: yes, looking at tweak now21:29
whirleystarjemark: thanks for your help21:29
NRVatevanishing it should't be... kind of down to the wire you could say..21:29
jemarkwhirleystar, you're welcome. see you21:30
NRVateawesome @ rc tommorow.21:30
vanishingNRVate: i was expecting them to be honest..lol21:30
NRVatehah21:31
vanishingNRVate:"them" i meant kreaks..21:31
vanishingNRVate:are you gonna test lts?21:31
dominic_Bye21:36
vanishingbue21:37
vanishingbye*21:37
NRVatevanishing: we dont run LTS around here21:53
NRVatenot at my shop atleast, folks in the channel may though21:53
sykis there a repo for "backports" on karmic?21:53
thiebaudesyk, i have one in my sources21:55
BUGabundoolá21:58
thiebaudeBUGabundo, salut21:59
BUGabundoo/ thiebaude21:59
thiebaudehaha21:59
BUGabundoeveryone getting ready for kitten killing release parrties?21:59
thiebaudeBUGabundo, im looking forward to it21:59
BUGabundoI'll miss all you guys :((21:59
thiebaudeBUGabundo, you'll see us next year,lol22:00
BUGabundonaaaa22:00
BUGabundoin 3 weeks :)22:00
BUGabundoI can't run stable for long22:00
BUGabundoas soon as toolchain is done22:00
BUGabundoI'll be here22:00
BUGabundodistupgrading :)22:01
BUGabundo_while it hottrrr_22:01
thiebaudeBUGabundo, i've already deployed 9.1022:01
BUGabundothiebaude: ?22:01
JesperHansenthiebaude, a daily image of 9.10 worked. Its booting properly now.22:01
thiebaudeJesperHansen, cool22:02
thiebaudeJesperHansen, im sticking with this daily22:02
JesperHansentho I gotta re dl a netbook image. The daily I got was the desktop one22:03
thiebaudeahh22:03
DummyXLhellow.. One  question, When I install the rc 9.10, will it be automatic gets the updates of the final version or must I manual Upgrade and add new servers after one week?22:03
dupondjeDummyXL: aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade22:03
dupondjeand tadaa :P22:03
thiebaudeDummyXL, just keep updating it22:04
JesperHansenthe live actually seems pretty careless that I removed the usb stick22:04
DummyXLok, thanks... this will not be automatick? to run the final version I have to do that steps?22:04
edgyHi, it takes a lot to start kde while gnome works well22:05
dupondjeDummyXL: normally it will prompt22:05
dupondjewhen there are updates22:05
ADmiralHi, I've got boot problems. On a long-standing install that was upgraded over time all the way from Hardy (I think), I manually added the main Karmic repository and upgraded lots of packages. Afterwards I ran "apt-get dist-upgrade". On restart, the screen won't stop flickering and several weird error messages pop up over time. The most common one is "[some number] hub 6-0:1.0:port 1 disabled by hub (EMI?), re-enabling..."22:06
DummyXLOk the servers are the same, so updating is all I have to do than to go from Rc to final 9.1022:06
ADmiralHow can I fix that without a complete reinstall?22:06
dupondjeDummyXL: indeed :)22:07
JesperHansenhmm, got a link to the daily images?22:07
DummyXLThank you...22:07
dupondjeJesperHansen: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/22:08
dupondjegoogle is nice22:08
JesperHansenjesper is lazy22:09
JesperHansenthx22:09
DinkHello, not sure if its here where I need to post this but I am currently running Karmic and something funky is going on. Initially when I logged in compiz.real was eating up all my cpu. I then changed "visual effects" to none and cpu went back to normal. I then looked at where I was logged in and it seems like gdm started on tty1 and not 7. All other tty seem to be unusable.22:24
vanishing!question22:24
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)22:24
vanishingoh..im right22:24
vanishinglol22:24
Heikki123http://capslockday.com/22:24
AdamDVHello, Karmic broke my mouse, on an Acer aspire one.22:25
AdamDVInternal mouse pad no work.22:25
AdamDVBut, I'll try again after updates and after release ;)22:25
Heikki123how does it not work?22:25
DinkI noticed there was a bug posted for the compiz.real eating up cpu portion but was not able to find anything relating to gdm/gnome starting on tty1 and not 7 and making other tty unusable22:26
vanishingsudo apt-get install gsynaptics22:26
vanishingand configure your touchpad with it22:26
vanishingAdamDV22:26
ck773he is gone22:27
mzzbah22:27
mzzI think someone else reported the same thing the other day22:27
mzzhmm, no, that was an asus eeepc22:28
Type3SingularityIf there's still a bug in the RC there isn't not a whole lot of chance that it will get fixed is there? (unless its major)22:28
* mzz can't tell acer and asus apart22:28
mzzType3Singularity: well, the reason for having an rc instead of saying it's final right away is so critical things can still be fixed22:29
mzzbut yeah, it has to be a pretty significant bug, and the bugfix must not be too risky22:29
c4ptanyone use zeroshell?22:30
mzz!anyone22:31
ubottuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?22:31
c4ptmzz: that was my real question.22:31
c4ptmzz does anyone use zeroshell.22:31
DinkGdm/gnome starts on tty1 and not 7 ? Also I can not switch to any other tty. Any ideas why ?22:32
Dinkbetter @ mzz :)22:32
mzzc4pt: hmm, I wonder if the popularity contest results are viewable somewhere22:32
c4ptmzz zeroshell isnt a package.22:33
* mzz still thinks it's a somewhat odd question, since presumably whoever wrote and/or packaged the software uses it22:33
c4ptmzz your a fucking idiot.22:33
* mzz frowns22:34
ck773!abuse22:34
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines22:34
mzzc4pt: given what this channel is for my link to that factoid is appropriate for about 99/100 of the "does anyone/anybody" questions. I'd argue you're asking about zeroshell in the wrong place (I just looked up what it actually is)22:35
mzzc4pt: also, in my experience abusing the helpers tends to stop others from helping you :P22:35
c4ptmzz yeah but i was wondering if anyone uses zeroshell for a reason . the reason being i am trying to use it with wpa2 enterprise and ubuntu22:35
mzzahh, there we go22:35
c4ptmzz im not trying to abuse you...22:36
mzzc4pt: so consider asking you actual wpa2-related question, since it's far from certain solving whatever issue you have with that requires others to use zeroshell22:36
mzzc4pt: "you're a fucking idiot" isn't abuse now?22:36
* mzz gives up22:36
Heikki123:))22:36
* JesperHansen slaps mzz22:37
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rob0mzz, and your mom dresses you funny!22:39
c4ptdoes anyone connect to a wpa2 enterprise like this              router<---zeroshell radius<---client trying to connect22:39
c4pti have the trustedCA.pem file for the CA certificate and the right user password and right user name with PEAP but it fails to connect...22:40
c4pti see in the zeroshell log  Ignoring request from unknown client 192.168.1.2:1024               which is me trying to connect.22:42
Travis-42has anyone noticed the size of their notification bubbles suddenly shrink in one of the updates in the last few days?22:48
BUGabundonot really22:49
BUGabundodid them?22:49
Travis-42well, on my screen they've gotten so small I can't read all the text, but I don't know if it's just me22:49
BluesKajhmm , mostly the notification app just crashes on bootup :)22:49
Travis-42heh22:50
Travis-42well I guess I'm one step ahead then ;-)22:50
BluesKajTravis-42, well, not on my laptop, which I'm on now , but my pc does..dunno why22:52
c4ptdoes anyone use wpa2 enterprise on their own lan?22:53
RussellAlanfirefox 3.5.2 is running horribly slow.22:53
Travis-42it seems that it takes the "application font" setting and makes it even smaller22:54
ADmiralRe-phrase and retry: When trying to boot Karmic, the screen won't stop flickering and several weird error messages get printed over time. The most common one is "[some number] hub 6-0:1.0:port 1 disabled by hub (EMI?), re-enabling...". How I got here: on my Jaunty, I manually added the main Karmic repository and upgraded lots of packages. There were no show-stopping problems at this point, reboot worked fine. Afterwards I ran "apt-g22:56
dupondjeADmiral: where does it stop22:57
francis6where is the karmic daily with graphical installer please22:57
NRVate"ran apt-" something22:57
NRVatehah22:57
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dupondjefrancis6:  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/22:57
ADmiraldupondje: I can see the login prompt on the command line terminals but I can't see the graphical login prompt.22:57
dupondjeADmiral: try to login22:58
dupondjetype startx22:58
dupondjeor /etc/init.d/gdm restart22:58
francis6dupondje thats the alternate I asked for the graphical22:58
dupondjeand check /var/log/Xorg.log22:58
slacker_nllo22:58
ADmiraldupondje: I've tried logging in, but the keyboard presses are not registered most of the time. This makes it impossible to enter a password.22:58
dupondjefrancis6: lol, try looking bigt harder22:59
slacker_nldupondje: on karmic it is service gdm start22:59
joaopintoADmiral, you did not upgrade using a recommended procedure !22:59
ADmiralI can still get the logs if there are any, I'm on another install on the same hd right now (an old Gutsy)22:59
francis6dupondje huh?22:59
dupondjeslacker_nl: /etc/init.d/gdm restart works without problem imo :P22:59
ADmiraljoaopinto: no :(22:59
joaopintoADmiral, you upgrade with updadate-manager -d, not with dist-upgrade22:59
slacker_nldupondje: you don't get a message telling you to use service <name> start ??22:59
dupondjejoaopinto: update-manager -d just fetches a sources.list for karmic ?23:00
slacker_nldupondje: afaik gdm/kdm/xdm is using upstart now23:00
* NRVate isn't too surprised manually hacking in the repos and overlaying packages breaks stuff23:00
joaopintodupondje, no, it also handles specific upgrade cases which are not covered by regular package upgrades23:00
NRVateoh.. upstart.. that's the new fancy login thing?>23:00
ADmiraldupondje: I don't have a /var/log/Xorg.log23:00
joaopintoNRVate, no, upstart is a new boot system, not login related23:01
slacker_nlNRVate: no, the replacement for init.d scripts :)23:01
NRVateright on23:01
dupondjeXorg.0.log23:01
dupondjeit seems :p23:01
kaddihi, i have a karmic installation, which was running great now upon boot it only says "filesystem check failed. A maintenance shell will now be started. [...] acer-wmi: no or unsupported wmi interface unable to load. "23:01
dupondjejoaopinto: didn't know :)23:01
ADmiraldupondje: oh, sorry23:01
NRVatedont mind me, first day testing out karmic.23:01
francis6dupondje where is the graphical ISO please?23:01
dupondjeanyway, working since Alpha 2 :P23:01
NRVateyes, im late lol23:01
slacker_nldupondje: :)23:01
slacker_nldupondje: same time I started using karmic23:01
kaddiAs it used to work I suspect there is somthing broken, can I manually load the acer-wmi in that maintenance shell?23:02
slacker_nli think upstart hit the shelves around alpha3/423:02
dupondjefrancis6: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20091020.3/23:02
dupondjelazy fucker23:02
ADmiraldupondje: Xorg.0.log Xorg.0.log.old Xorg.1.log Xorg.1.log.old Xorg.20.log Xorg.2.log Xorg.2.log.old Xorg.3.log Xorg.3.log.old Xorg.4.log Xorg.4.log.old Xorg.5.log Xorg.5.log.old Xorg.99.log Xorg.failsafe.log Xorg.failsafe.log.old          which one23:02
dupondje0.log23:02
slacker_nlADmiral: Xorg.0.log23:02
dupondjeslacker_nl: just hope they will fixed aptitude bug :( Its extremely crap :P23:02
slacker_nldupondje: which bug?23:02
hetaumais any1 having problems installing addons on firefox? got a clean install of 9.10 and can't add any addon on firefox. it takes ages and then it gives a download error -22823:02
dupondjeslacker_nl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/39103523:03
slacker_nlhaven't noticed anything weird with aptitude....??23:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 391035 in aptitude "aptitude stops displaying downloads" [Undecided,Confirmed]23:03
dupondjeslacker_nl: only happens when you have descent screen with good resolution ;)23:03
Ademananyone know what importing user accounts does if you're installing over an existing partition, but not formatting?23:03
ADmiraldupondje, slacker_nl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/298635/ "no screens found"...23:03
ADmiralmaybe some problems with the .conf? How do I get better log messages23:04
slacker_nldupondje: ahh, i have seen that behaviour23:04
NRVateneat, upstart replaces /sbin/init23:04
NRVatepretty major change there you could say :)23:04
slacker_nldupondje: i just hit enter a couple of times and it continues (or ctrl c restart aptitude)23:04
NRVatehttp://upstart.ubuntu.com for those who would like to read more ...23:05
dupondjeslacker_nl: true, but it sux. Should be fixed imo :P23:05
slacker_nldupondje: i sometimes blame my wireless network too, which drops in speed overtime..23:05
slacker_nldupondje: hehe, something I can live with :)23:05
slacker_nlshould be fixed none the less23:05
dupondjetrue, but still. If I provide the patch :) they should at least include it :P23:06
slacker_nldupondje: make it a debdiff, will be included quicker23:06
slacker_nlADmiral: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!23:06
slacker_nlADmiral: ^^ is your real error23:07
ADmiraldupondje: oh ^^ so I have to change some driver string to "nv", as far as I remember?23:07
ADmiralslacker_nl, sorry, meant to talk to you23:07
slacker_nlADmiral: i think so, not too familiar with nvidea23:08
dupondjeslacker_nl: maby :) but didn't got real time to do that :) Was happy I found a solution to fix the error. But its prolly not THE solution23:08
slacker_nldupondje: i could do it for you, but I want to watch heroes now :)23:08
slacker_nlor goto bed...23:08
dupondje:p23:08
dupondjethey just need to notice it, and fix it23:08
dupondjeso yea :D23:08
dupondjeADmiral: there isn't a Xorg.conf anymore23:09
dupondjeit should be all auto imo23:09
zniavregood evening : what is this soft (under red arrow) and how to desactivate it please?23:09
slacker_nldupondje: /j #ubuntu-motu and ask for someone to pick it up23:09
zniavrehttp://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2668/capturepsc.png23:09
dupondjeslacker_nl: its not MOTU imo, its main package23:09
slacker_nldupondje: then.. ubuntu-devel23:09
dupondjeslacker_nl: did that :) they asked me to subscribe ubuntu-main-sponsor23:10
dupondjeso I did that :)23:10
slacker_nldupondje: motu should be able to help you figure out who to subscribe to implement the diff23:10
kaddihi, i have a karmic installation, which was running great now upon boot it only says "filesystem check failed. A maintenance shell will now be started. [...] acer-wmi: no or unsupported wmi interface unable to load. " Any ideas on how to fix that?23:10
ADmiraldupondje: I still have an /etc/xorg.conf. I've now changed Driver"nvidia"  to Driver"nv" and I'm about to reboot. If that doesn't help, I'll move the .conf to a backup location. Is that good?23:10
slacker_nldupondje: ahh, you did your job, now sit back, grab a beer and wait :)23:10
dupondjeADmiral: try moving it, it should work. No xorg.conf here23:11
dupondjeslacker_nl: lets pray :D23:11
slacker_nlADmiral: no need to reboot23:11
NRVatehow would acer-wmi be related to a failed FSCK?23:11
* NRVate would guess the acer-wmi error is not at all relevant to the failed FSCK23:11
slacker_nlADmiral: just try to start gdm/kdm whatever23:11
kaddiNRVate: so i should just run fsck?23:11
dupondjeNRVate: not? what device is giving errors ?23:11
ADmiralslacker_nl: I still need to reboot because the install where I changed the .conf is the one that won't boot and I'm on an old Gutsy :) cya in a few minutes23:11
connexHi, I have issues with mpd file permissions.23:11
dupondjeerr kaddi  :p23:11
BluesKajkaddi run sudo apt-get update at the tty prompt, it should download the fix for that prob, then reboot23:11
slacker_nlADmiral: you're running gutsy?23:12
dupondjegutsy kernel prolly :p23:12
NRVateI would assume if you fix your filesystem it'd boot.23:12
JesperHansenyay, the daily netbook image works23:12
NRVatedoes the acer-wmi code have _anything_ to do with the storage subsystem?23:12
dupondjeJesperHansen: it should, we are few days left for final :)23:12
JesperHansendupondje, the beta didn't work, but I am guessing thats weeks old by now23:13
connexI can't access any file on my system with the mpd user23:13
dupondjeJesperHansen: beta is like 3 weeks old or so23:13
dupondjelotsa changed since then23:13
slacker_nlbtw, i've been having some weird messages at boot, unable to mount partions x y and z hit esc to enter some kind of shell, laptop boots and all, with everything mounted23:13
dupondjesurely the installation process23:13
JesperHansenand the netbook 9.10 stuffs is way nicer than 9.04 netbook version23:14
dupondjeslacker_nl: whats in your fstab ?23:14
slacker_nldupondje: very basic23:15
JesperHansenFirst of: Nice on the UXA intel acceleration. EXA sucked hard.23:15
slacker_nllemme pb it for ya23:15
Xgateshey anyone good with wine? I need to install IE to use instead of firefox and I had it installed before with IE7, but it wasn't running right, so I uninstalled it and wine and cleaned out everything related to wine, did a 'locate' in the system23:15
Xgates Now I try to install IE6 and it says the setup has detected a newer version of IE installed and can't continue.23:15
Xgateswhere would it be seeing this? because I cleaned everything out23:15
dupondjeXgates: IE ? HELLO ! Go back to windows ? ;)23:16
dupondjewho needs IE ;)23:16
slacker_nldupondje: http://pb.opperschaap.net/7423:16
dupondjebtw, you could try wiping /home/<user>/.wine?23:16
slacker_nldupondje: aka $HOME/.wine :)23:16
dupondjeah well ;)23:17
dupondjeslacker_nl: don't see anything wrong :s23:17
dupondjeits strange23:17
slacker_nldupondje: neither do i23:17
slacker_nlbut i don't get any messages in dmesg daemon23:17
dupondjeweird23:18
dupondjeanyway23:18
dupondjei'm going to sleep23:18
dupondjenite23:18
kaddisorry guys, false alarm. bios died on me yesterday. The date was set back 1988 (which I knew, but completely slipped my mind just now). I reset the date and it's now booting and running fsck23:18
JesperHansenAnd the space wasting of the netbook 9.04 version is gone in 9.10! yay!23:19
hetaumais any1 having problems installing addons on firefox? got a clean install of 9.10 and can't add any addon on firefox. it takes ages and then it gives http://pastebin.com/m27643deb23:19
kaddihave you tried downloading the file first and installing it locally?23:20
JesperHansenhetauma, seems like you got a very bad mirror?23:20
hetaumaJesperHansen, it happens on every add-on I would try23:21
kaddihetauma: have you tried to download and save the file on your PC, before installing it?23:22
hetaumakaddi, checking this now23:22
JesperHansenhttp://kb.mozillazine.org/Unable_to_install_themes_or_extensions_-_Firefox#Download_Error_-22823:22
JesperHansenhetauma, ^23:22
kaddiis there an easy command to list all installed kernels, so I know which ones I want to remove? :p23:26
ADmiralSo I've changed my xorg config to use the free nv driver and now Karmic boots just fine! Only one problem remains: There was an error loading some gnome applet called "UserFastSwitch" or something. I got the option to delete it from the configuration and I did. How should I get it back and working?23:27
webm0nk3yhow can i resintall my HP printers that dissapeared with karmic?23:27
foxy_mefistokaddi: dpkg --list | grep linux-image23:28
kaddithanks :)23:28
JesperHansenwebm0nk3y, if its plug-n-play usb printer, then just plug it in and you're good to print23:31
webm0nk3yJesperHansen, thanks...it's a network printer but i discovered hp-setup23:35
ha1331has someone else experienced flash plugin "disapearing". By disapearing I mean that it kind of stops working properly. Only white box appears, no content, right click on mouse does nothing?23:36
ha1331(firefox)23:36
ha1331it worked fine earlier today23:36
kaddiwhen you type "sudo apt-get remove --purge 2.6.31-5*" does it try to purge all kernels?23:37
kaddiI just hit that command and it tried to remove everything includeing the latest kernel, which is kinda not what I wanted or expected23:38
qoshey guys. where can i get older kernels? i am searching 2.6.31-12 for karmic ...23:39
kaddisubversion perhaps?23:40
qosno packages?23:40
stperewhat should I include in a bug report about upstart^23:40
stpere?*23:40
stperemy system never close cleanly23:40
mary_I just upgraded with update-manager -d and if I boot with the splash screen I get a blinking screen and hard drive activity in sync with the blinks and if I boot without splash it dumps me to a tty login and the screen blinks and hard drive activity is the same (looks like it's under heavy load)23:40
stpereI have to hold power button 4 seconds23:40
qosmary_, whats about keyboard control?23:41
qosmary_, behaves normal? or do you have problems while typing?23:42
* mary_ checks23:42
mary_qos, problems typing23:43
qosmary_, nvidia gpu?23:44
mary_qos, yes23:44
GodfatherofEireHow does one change the IP config from the command line?23:44
qosmary_, seems that we have the same problem ;)23:44
mary_qos, you still have this problem?23:45
mary_nvidia gtx 26023:45
OmnipotentEntityHello all, after upgrading my sound no longer works.  Any ideas?  00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)23:45
qosmary_, currently there are 2 things to try. a newer nvidia driver ... ~1.90 or an older kernel ~2.6.31-1223:45
mary_GodfatherofEire, wrong channel  but here it is anyway. second result in google: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-859179.html23:46
mary_qos, have you tried newer nvidia driver?23:46
qosmary_, no ... but i guess i will try this next23:47
GodfatherofEiremary_ wasnt quite sure if anything mighta changed in 9.10 from 9.0423:47
arandman, I've been using the terminal too much, I just wrote "tcl --help" into the search bar when looking for the wikipedia entry >_<23:48
mary_GodfatherofEire, I'm not sure. if that was your question then you should ask that.23:48
kaddiarand: lol23:48
mary_GodfatherofEire, is this the newest? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-859179.html23:48
GodfatherofEiremary_, I asked because I'm having trouble configuring the IP via Network config23:49
mary_oops wrong person23:49
mary_qos, is this the newest? ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/190.32/23:49
Jordan_UGodfatherofEire: What trouble specifically?23:49
qosmary_, yes. but you should use an ppa instead of compiling it on your own...23:49
Jordan_U!envy | mary_23:50
ubottumary_: EnvyNG is a program to install newer version of nVidia or ATi drivers, it can be found in !Universe as "envyng-gtk" (for Gtk/Gnome) or "envyng-qt" (for Qt/KDE). It is NOT a supported method to install video drivers; please only use it if standard methods fail and at your own risk - See also !BinaryDriver23:50
qosmary_, https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa23:50
qosmary_, its there, already compiled and packed23:50
GodfatherofEireJordan_U, it doesnt allow me to config static IPs, just resets after I "save" the settings23:50
digmorehi, could someone look at this --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1296090&highlight=firefox+chromium23:51
qosmary_, so ... installed. i give it a try ... need to restart for that23:52
Jordan_Udigmore: Are you using a proxy?23:52
mary_qos, apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers-190 ?23:52
digmoreJordan_U: Not at home. At uni, I am not sure, but I can check23:53
Jordan_Udigmore: Can you pastebin the output of "tracepath google.com" ?23:54
digmoreJordan_U: I added some extra in my post23:54
mary_qos, what's the verdict?23:55
digmoreJordan_U, I am at uni right now. I assume you need me to do "tracepath google.com" at home?23:56
Jordan_Udigmore: Yes23:56
Jordan_Udigmore: Also the output of "route -n"23:57
qosmary_, hmm ... that didn't work ... i guess i am searching for a new kernel23:57
mary_qos, I'll try it. If that doesn't work I'll build it myself while you try the kernel23:58

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