[00:31]  * BUGabundo $ echo sleep > /proc/sys/human/BUGabundo; reboot
[07:39] <thekorn> good morning
[08:48] <shankhs> hi referring the bug #456986, it says the bug is in gnome-terminal. How to check if its in kernel or gnome?
[08:48] <shankhs> the bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/456986
[08:50] <micahg> shankhs: the bug has already been converted to a question
[08:50] <shankhs> yes i read it
[08:51] <shankhs> i am asking how to find the real problem looking at the dependencies given in the text files?
[09:05] <micahg1> shankhs: that bug has already been dealt with
[09:06] <micahg1> shankhs: the dependencies are just to make sure that up-to-date versions of dependencies ar eused
[10:20] <shankhs> \quit
[13:39] <zul> is it possible to get a server testcase added?
[14:00] <davmor2> zul: is it an official test?
[14:01] <zul> davmor2: yes its UpgradeServer there is a page for it already but its not on the tracker
[14:02] <zul> and the test needs to be updated
[14:03] <davmor2> zul: things like that will be better asked on #ubuntu-testing where it will be seen by the right people I'll fire it off over there for you now
[14:03] <zul> k thanks
[14:03] <zul> ill go over there as well
[14:16] <dconlon> Hi just installed Karmic and can't boot with an xorg.conf file in place. Known issue?
[14:21] <davmor2> dconlon: Why do you need an xorg.conf file?
[14:23] <dconlon> I don't. It is a fresh install of karmic from the beta, there is an xorg.conf there. If I delete it I can boot into X, then if I reboot it doesnt work as something has created it again.
[14:24] <Omar87> Hi all.
[14:24] <Omar87>  I have a problem with Karmic, it keeps crashing and logging out.
[14:25] <Omar87> Can anybody please help me??
[14:25] <Omar87> anyone?
[14:26] <dconlon> @davmor2 I have a recovery console on the box now to help debug this issue. Three other people here in my office have the same issue. All the same hardware, Dell machines with intel onboard and ati cards in the pciexpress slots.
[14:27] <davmor2> dconlon: pass, I'm afraid.  Seems very odd though.
[14:28] <dconlon> @davmor2 there a better place to go to get help?
[14:29] <davmor2> dconlon: Have you had a look for a bug on launchpad yet?  second to that try #ubuntu+1
[14:30] <dconlon> @davmor2 looked and there are a few bugs that look the same but all are reported as closed.
[14:30] <dconlon> the info in launchpad bugs is at best 'confused'
[14:31] <davmor2> dconlon: The best thing to do then is try #ubuntu+1
[14:31] <dconlon> @davmor2 cheers
[14:31] <davmor2> dconlon: this might help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Debugging
[14:33] <Omar87> Can someone help me please?
[14:33] <Omar87>  I have a problem with Karmic, it keeps crashing and logging out.
[14:34] <Omar87> The problem seems to be between my Radeon graphics card and Kernel 2.6.31
[14:35] <Omar87> I'm not sure how to solve it, some people here told me to upgrade kernel 2.6.32, but I don't know how to do that safely.
[14:35] <Omar87> Can anyone here please help me?
[14:58] <dconlon> @davmor2 Ok I have exhausted ubuntu+1 and the X debugging guide; any other destinations?
[14:59] <davmor2> dconlon: you have run dist-upgrade on this box I'm assuming?
[14:59] <dconlon> yeah
[15:00] <dconlon> logging in remotely seems to show the X-server spinning at 100% cpu
[15:00] <dconlon> can't get much out of it
[15:03] <dconlon> @davmor2 back to Jaunty for me, cheers for the help
[15:03] <davmor2> dconlon: you could try a live desktop of the latest iso
[15:04] <davmor2> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[15:04] <davmor2> dconlon: try that see if live runs correctly
[15:04] <dconlon> The live cd works fine, but an install doesn't
[15:05] <wild_oscar> hey! does bug triage only happens on thursdays? I am the original poster of bug 456238 and want to help out in whichever way I can
[15:05] <wild_oscar> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postfix/+bug/456238 )
[15:05] <ubot4> wild_oscar: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out
[15:05] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 456238 in postfix "empty message-id, no date in Evolution MUA" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[15:06] <davmor2> dconlon: there shouldn't be any difference.  Oh hang on are  you enabling the fglrx drivers?
[15:07] <dconlon> @davmor2: I tried that during one reboot. Are there known issues with the fglrx drivers?
[15:09] <dconlon> @davmor2 The issues seems to be independent though, but related to the fact I have the onboard intel card and an ati card
[15:09] <davmor2> dconlon: Is the intel card completely disabled in the bios?
[15:11] <dconlon> @davmor2: The junk-y dell bios has two options 'auto' - which says it uses the add-in card only and another option that seems to try the add-in card first then fall back
[15:12] <dconlon> @davmor2 it is currently set to auto, and the output is initially coming out of the ati card. It briefly shows the ubuntu logo but then 'fades to black'
[15:13] <davmor2> dconlon: Ah and then no xsplash or gdm?
[15:14] <dconlon> @davmor2 Yes that would be it
[15:16] <davmor2> dconlon: boot up keeping your finger on shift.  When the grub menu comes up hit e on the ubuntu entry.  Try removing the word splash and the hit ctrl-x
[15:18] <dconlon> @davmor2 Ok having done this, I get the same.
[15:19] <davmor2> dconlon: what shows up in the terminal now?
[15:19] <dconlon> @davmor2 I'm currently looking at a blank screen, can't change to a VT either
[15:20] <davmor2> dconlon: That sounds like a bug I thought was fixed.
[15:21] <dconlon> @davmor2 From the recovery console earlier I did an apt-get update then apt-get upgrade, it shows no further updates
[15:22] <davmor2> dconlon: in devel releases always use dist-upgrade it will mode config files that could be the issue
[15:22] <dconlon> @davmor2 Shall try that, 1 sec
[15:23] <davmor2> dconlon: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:25] <dconlon> @davmor2 That has no effect as there are no packages to upgrade
[15:27] <davmor2> dconlon: try asking on #ubuntu-devel (they might help but are very busy).
[15:28] <dconlon> @davmor2 Do you know which bug number you think this looks like?
[15:29] <davmor2> dconlon: not of hand no
[15:34] <ikt> loving these 90MB apport reports
[15:52] <dconlon> titpoRu
[18:29] <shankhs> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/457001 is a geniune bug and can be easily seen.Is anyone working on it?
[18:29] <shankhs> Can I confirm it?
[18:30] <ubot4> shankhs: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out
[18:30] <shankhs> is anybody home?
[18:33] <greg-g> shankhs: if A) you did not report the bug and B) you can rerpduce the issue then yes, you can confirm it
[18:34] <greg-g> shankhs: and you can tell if anyone is working on the bug or not by the status of the bug, in this case, it appears not (and it was only reported 9 hours ago, btw)
[18:34] <shankhs> greg-g: I was able to reproduce it . Actually the bug can be seen(!) by anybody,its a translation bug.
[18:35] <greg-g> shankhs: not for me as I don't have that locale installed, but yes, it is easy to confirm
[18:36] <shankhs> greg-g: I am kinda new to this business so pardon me if I am asking too much...
[18:36] <greg-g> shankhs: no problem
[18:38] <hggdh> shankhs: BTW, whenever you change the status of a bug, please add a comment on why you did it. This helps later on
[18:38] <shankhs> hggdh: yeah I am currently writing it
[18:38] <hggdh> thank you
[18:54] <shankhs> there are some bugs which say the some app(say app ABC) crashes the OS.How do you reproduce such bugs?
[18:55] <shankhs> do you take chances or use some another system(not the work system as it may contain important stuffs) to do such testing.
[19:03] <greg-g> shankhs: you can install virtualbox, which enables you to run a "Virtual Machine" on your computer so you don't lose information/crash your real system
[19:04] <shankhs> greg-g: ok tahnx
[19:04] <shankhs> *thanx
[19:10] <shankhs> Is requesting for a feature also considered as a bug?!
[19:10] <shankhs> refer to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/456605
[19:11] <ubot4> shankhs: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out
[19:17] <greg-g> shankhs: it is a bug, and should be marked as "wishlist" if it is a feature request. Also, most importantly, it should be forwarded upstream to the actual developers of the software
[19:18] <shankhs> greg-g: thats great thanx greg-g once again but how to forward to the upstream developer?
[19:22] <greg-g> shankhs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Upstream/GNOME is a good example (and is applicable to empathy)
[19:22] <greg-g> shankhs: also, there is a ton of documentation here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage
[19:23] <shankhs> actually i found that bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/456605 is duplicate of  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/304889 ... so was little curious
[19:23] <ubot4> shankhs: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out
[19:23] <shankhs> well thanx i will read them
[19:59] <hggdh> is LP really slow, or do I have a local issue?
[20:00] <greg-g> hggdh: kinda slow. my co-worker also mentioned that ubuntu.com's keyserver was not responding
[20:00] <hggdh> ugh!
[20:03] <greg-g> hggdh: yeah, and yesterday ubuntu.com and LP weren't even responding
[20:03] <hggdh> so we are a bit better off today, I guess ;-)
[20:03] <greg-g> I hope that means there is just a ton of testing going on so people are hammering the servers updating their isos :)
[20:04] <andres_> Hi, I've just intalled 9.10 beta in spanish and found some untranslated strings in the introductory slide show; where should I report them?
[20:04] <greg-g> hmm, what is that package called again?
[20:06] <hggdh> debian-installer?
[20:12] <hggdh> pedro_: ping?
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