| lool | Does someone know how to send Ctrl-Alt-Fx under virtualbox? | 17:04 |
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| lool | plars, GrueMaster: Poke, I have a hang before the timezone selection screen in ubiquity under moblin remix if I chose anything else than English | 17:07 |
| lool | Can you guys confirm? | 17:07 |
| lool | (this is under virtualbox) | 17:07 |
| GrueMaster | Which snapshot? Today's? | 17:08 |
| lool | Yes | 17:08 |
| GrueMaster | Downloading now. Will check when it finishes. | 17:08 |
| plars | lool: no, I got past there with today's snapshot just fine | 17:09 |
| plars | lool: also under virtual box | 17:10 |
| sbeattie | lool: Ctrl-Alt-Fx> <host-key>Fx, where <host-key> here defaults to <right-ctrl> | 17:11 |
| plars | lool: is the battery in your b2.5 good? | 17:12 |
| lool | plars: I installed on 2.0 for now; need to test 2.5 now | 17:13 |
| plars | lool: if your battery is good, can you see if it still preserves the clock? | 17:13 |
| lool | sbeattie: thanks! | 17:13 |
| lool | plars: yes | 17:14 |
| plars | lool: mine is not, but could be just that my battery has recently died | 17:14 |
| lool | An ARM person told me ethernet wasn't working with babbage 2.0 :-( | 17:14 |
| plars | and I don't have my voltmeter handy at the moment | 17:14 |
| lool | plars: moblin > had you tried with non-english? | 17:14 |
| lool | plars: Just rebooting into the installed system, I have date/time issues on 2.0 | 17:15 |
| plars | lool: no, only english sorry | 17:15 |
| plars | lool: let me try non-english real quick | 17:17 |
| lool | Ouch I see moblin-remix pulls langpacks during install even when one selects english | 17:18 |
| lool | Fuck, system date expired my password and I cant login | 17:23 |
| lool | I did a ctrl-alt-del shutdown of Babbage 2.0 and it doesn't come up anymore... | 17:25 |
| plars | lool: I tried it in French also, and I also get past the tz select screen | 17:28 |
| lool | plars: Ok cool thanks | 17:28 |
| lool | plars: in vbox still? | 17:28 |
| plars | lool: yep | 17:28 |
| plars | NCommander: awake? | 18:08 |
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| lool | plars, GrueMaster: Do you guys see output on the serial console when booting babbage boards? | 18:15 |
| GrueMaster | Briefly. | 18:16 |
| GrueMaster | Default doesn't put much out. | 18:16 |
| plars | lool: when I redirect to the console, yes | 18:16 |
| lool | plars: I mean bootloader | 18:17 |
| GrueMaster | bootloader, yes. | 18:17 |
| GrueMaster | why? | 18:17 |
| lool | I dont see anything | 18:17 |
| lool | Only booting SDHC0 | 18:18 |
| lool | And not even always | 18:18 |
| lool | Hmm you guys have 2.0 | 18:18 |
| lool | JamieBennett: what about you | 18:18 |
| lool | err 2.5 | 18:18 |
| plars | lool: I only have 2.5 | 18:18 |
| lool | Jamie has 2.0 | 18:18 |
| lool | GRAH | 18:19 |
| lool | serial cable had simply moved out | 18:19 |
| plars | lool: you don't even get output from redboot? | 18:19 |
| plars | ah | 18:19 |
| plars | wow, I was going to say you probably cooked your board or something :) | 18:20 |
| JamieBennett | Sorry, just back I do have a 2.0 | 18:20 |
| lool | I hate you real world | 18:20 |
| * JamieBennett reads backchat | 18:20 | |
| lool | JamieBennett: dont bother | 18:20 |
| GrueMaster | I wasn't going to suggest that you plug it in. "P | 18:20 |
| GrueMaster | :P | 18:20 |
| plars | funny that you got as far as the first message, then nothing after that | 18:21 |
| lool | Now Xorg wont come up anymore for me on Babbage 2.0 | 18:21 |
| lool | Hmm probably a date issue | 18:21 |
| JamieBennett | lool: :) just read the back chat, if in doubt always blame the hardware first | 18:24 |
| lool | Eh if you use init=/bin/sh you have to ctrl-alt-f7 to talk to the shell | 18:24 |
| lool | JamieBennett: How do you reset the time after install of a babbage 2.0? | 18:28 |
| JamieBennett | After the time resets you have to drop to the console and use date (if you can boot to X that is) | 18:29 |
| lool | JamieBennett: I cant boot to X and I dont have sudo either | 18:30 |
| lool | It fails due to the time skew | 18:30 |
| JamieBennett | lool: I haven't experienced that. Even though the time resets I've always been able to boot to X | 18:30 |
| JamieBennett | I can give todays image a try though | 18:30 |
| lool | please do | 18:31 |
| JamieBennett | lool: OK | 18:31 |
| JamieBennett | downloading now | 18:31 |
| lool | are you at home? | 18:32 |
| JamieBennett | lool: yes, why? | 18:32 |
| lool | JamieBennett: Ok just wondering | 18:32 |
| JamieBennett | :) | 18:32 |
| lool | JamieBennett: I mean you're expected to be doing RC testing anyway :) | 18:32 |
| JamieBennett | Not at 6:30pm :P | 18:33 |
| JamieBennett | Farming the kids off to bed in 30 minutes so I'll devote some more time tonight to testing | 18:33 |
| lool | Eh right | 18:33 |
| plars | lool: normally the time skew doesn't cause *that* bad of problems for me... just that it makes me change my password every time I login, or use sudo | 18:34 |
| JamieBennett | plars: exactly what I was getting (last tested a couple of days ago) | 18:35 |
| lool | Perhaps sudo -i would work | 18:35 |
| JamieBennett | plars: password reset every login until you set the date then its fine until you take the power away | 18:36 |
| plars | JamieBennett: right, that bug is supposed to be fixed though :( | 18:37 |
| JamieBennett | plars: I'm going to test in T minus 10 minutes :) | 18:37 |
| JamieBennett | (download time) | 18:37 |
| lool | Oh it kept the date once | 18:40 |
| lool | Ah no | 18:40 |
| lool | it ntped | 18:40 |
| plars | lool: I reopened it | 18:40 |
| plars | lool: also I looked at the kernel from yesterday, and it still seems to contain the fixes that were in that changeset | 18:40 |
| plars | GrueMaster: are you able to make it through the dove install? | 18:42 |
| plars | I'm dying with InstallStepError in configure_bootloader() | 18:42 |
| plars | could be related to NCommander stuff he did on partman? maybe? | 18:43 |
| GrueMaster | Haven't gotten to that platform yet. Just finishing up unr & imx51 install testing. | 18:43 |
| lool | If I use startx, the server comes up fine | 18:44 |
| lool | and if I start gdm it doesn't | 18:46 |
| lool | Ok got it | 18:52 |
| lool | my 2.5 doesn't boot if I pull too much power with too many devices up | 18:53 |
| JamieBennett | lool: ? Does that mean you solved your problem ? (installing todays image now) | 18:54 |
| lool | JamieBennett: No :-( | 18:56 |
| lool | I gave up on babbage 2.0 to see how a 2.5 behaves for me | 18:56 |
| lool | I saw /var/log/gdm/(null).log files and thought it was looking bad | 18:57 |
| JamieBennett | lool: OK leave it with me. I'll see what my board does | 18:58 |
| JamieBennett | lool: live cd has pulled up the right time, I presume from the last install and the battery backup | 19:03 |
| JamieBennett | installing a full system now | 19:03 |
| JamieBennett | (and its been unplugged for at least 2 days) | 19:04 |
| lool | JamieBennett: If you have network plugged in, it ntp-ed it | 19:04 |
| JamieBennett | lool: confirmed. Removed eth cable, unplugged, rebooted live cd, back to Jan 1st 1970. | 19:09 |
| JamieBennett | Also why is it so hard to click on London in Ubiquity? | 19:11 |
| lool | :-( | 19:17 |
| lool | JamieBennett: Do you get gdm to startup on an installed system? | 19:17 |
| lool | JamieBennett: Also could you check ls /var/log/gdm for funny names like mine | 19:17 |
| JamieBennett | lool: still installing but I'll check | 19:28 |
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| lool | plars: I had a successful time keep on 2.5 | 20:40 |
| lool | plars: I only unplugged for 10 seconds | 20:40 |
| lool | But I unplugged everything | 20:40 |
| lool | and booted without network and time/date was kept | 20:40 |
| JamieBennett | lool: booted the installed image, saw GDM briefly then blank screen :( | 20:46 |
| lool | Oh you did see it | 20:46 |
| lool | JamieBennett: I personally suspect the depth changes | 20:46 |
| lool | JamieBennett: I think I'll try with mxcfb on the cmdline | 20:47 |
| lool | JamieBennett: Did you manage to login etc.? | 20:47 |
| JamieBennett | lool: saw the image but no text i.e. the box, backdrop but nothing else then flickered out | 20:47 |
| JamieBennett | no, saw it for 1/2 second or so | 20:47 |
| lool | JamieBennett: Sorry, I mean can you fix the time/date frm console? | 20:48 |
| lool | Cause I found it quite hard to workaround the date/time issues | 20:48 |
| JamieBennett | can't even login in at the moment (from another console). Its not accepting the password I set it to | 20:50 |
| plars | lool: so are you thinking that all of our batteries are just failing? | 20:51 |
| JamieBennett | lool, date from the console worked fine | 20:57 |
| JamieBennett | (with a sudo and a password change again) | 20:58 |
| lool | plars: So you lost hte date? | 21:02 |
| plars | lool: yes, that's what I was saying this morning | 21:03 |
| lool | plars: I kept my 2.5 off for 10 minutes or so and it kept time/date | 21:03 |
| lool | plars: Who else has the issue? | 21:03 |
| lool | plars: We see the issue JamieBennett and I on 2.0, but I kind of expected that it would be poorly supported | 21:04 |
| lool | plars: Might be good to test your voltage | 21:04 |
| plars | lool: ah, this morning it sounded like you were also having the clock issue | 21:04 |
| JamieBennett | So we have failing batteries again? Was is ever fixed? | 21:04 |
| lool | plars: One thing you might want to try is booting the board without network and DVI and plugging them after some 5 seconds | 21:04 |
| lool | plars: I had it ... on 2.0 | 21:04 |
| lool | plars: But 2.0 is so broken, you can't imagine | 21:04 |
| lool | plars: And I think I found my problem with 2.5 | 21:04 |
| lool | plars: What I thought were corruptions aren't | 21:05 |
| lool | What was happening was a heisenbug which resolved itself after I rewrote my SD card | 21:05 |
| plars | ok, really hoping this is just my battery | 21:05 |
| lool | But actually it didn't change anything | 21:05 |
| * JamieBennett waits for a 2.5 next week | 21:05 | |
| lool | I just had luck booting the second time | 21:05 |
| lool | Now I can consistenly boot my 2.5 fine IF I unplug network and DVI | 21:05 |
| lool | If I keep them both, it often fails | 21:06 |
| plars | lool: what about if you just keep one of them? | 21:06 |
| plars | lool: did you ever solder those connections for the ground issue? could be the same thing we saw before on the network | 21:07 |
| lool | plars: I need to try; I had the impression network was a worse offender and it's brought up by redboot | 21:07 |
| plars | oh, so you're getting power on, just failing later | 21:07 |
| lool | I'm pretty sure redboot doens't touch dvi so I would blame the network powe consumption, unless power is misconfigured on shutdown and the config is preserved across power off | 21:08 |
| lool | I never soldered the grounding stuff | 21:08 |
| lool | True | 21:08 |
| lool | I wonder whether I should be soldering by 2.0 now | 21:08 |
| lool | I'm a software guy! I'll try mxcfb= first :-P | 21:09 |
| lool | God it's 10pm and I didn't manage to test UNR and Dove yet | 21:09 |
| plars | lool: I just managed to finish installing dove, hit a ubiquity issue | 21:10 |
| plars | I was wondering if it was due to the new stuff michael worked on, but the second time through it worked for me | 21:11 |
| plars | we'll see if it boots now | 21:11 |
| lool | plars: I could boot 2.5 with just network unplugged; not a 100% test but it looks like it's the main issue | 21:14 |
| lool | JamieBennett: are you using a USB hub? | 21:15 |
| JamieBennett | for keyboard and mouse only | 21:15 |
| JamieBennett | thumb drive is plugged directly in | 21:15 |
| lool | I wonder whether it's causing the excessive power pull | 21:16 |
| lool | I reproduced the IO errors on SATA port with the new cables | 21:17 |
| lool | Cursor spins, then if I try to switch to console it hangs and I can't SSH | 21:17 |
| * lool hugs his 2.5 | 21:19 | |
| playya | hmm. io errors with sata cabels? i'm fighting with this error, too | 22:19 |
| playya | already ran a fsck for days without a result | 22:19 |
| playya | lool, do you think i should exchange my cables? | 22:20 |
| lool | playya: You have a Babbage 2.x? | 22:28 |
| lool | playya: We have a very specific issue with Babbage boards; it doesn't relate to the cables but we need special cables to use its SATA port | 22:28 |
| lool | The port works fine most of the time, except when opening a GNOME session | 22:28 |
| playya | lool, ah ok. i have a problem with a MyBook disk on my PC :( | 22:35 |
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