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AdamDHhi all, to create a meta package, how do I go about it?00:03
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ScottKCome on folks.  Let's upload some FTBFS fixes ....03:57
ScottKFound a package that hasn't been touched since Hoary.04:11
directhexhas it been touched in debian?04:12
ScottKDoesn't exist in Debian since before Etch.  Not sure why we kept it.04:13
ScottKIt's also possible it was never in Debian, since that long ago the practice of adding ubuntu to the revision was not firmly established (I don't think)04:14
ajmitch_ScottK: what's the package?04:14
ScottKajmitch_: rail04:14
* ajmitch_ doesn't see anything in the *-changes lists about it, it probably did come in from debian & was never properly cleaned up04:16
ajmitch_either that, or it was one of the crack packages imported from a non-debian source, as was done in those days04:18
ajmitch_eg http://arege.jp/debian-arege/dists/unstable/rail/source/04:19
ajmitch_from way back in 2001 :)04:19
ScottKLovely.04:22
ScottKNice detective work.04:22
ajmitch_apt-get.org was the main index of all these repositories04:26
ScottKRight.  I remember some of you that were around then discussing it.04:29
ajmitch_it was scary seeing that photo on jcastro's blog from UDU :)04:30
micahgScottK: are the bug fixes listed here worth a sync with debian (we have 1.5.2): http://qbittorrent.sourceforge.net/news.php04:31
ScottKmicahg: Without looking, I'll tell you we pretty much always want the latest crack with torrent stuff.04:32
micahgshould I request a sync then?04:32
ScottKmicahg: As long as it builds and you test it works, sure.04:33
micahgdo you want me to grab the debian version an push to ppa first?04:33
StevenKajmitch_: Haha04:37
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ScottKmicahg: I want you to build it, test it, and document this in a bug.  If you choose to use a PPA to help you do that, it's fine, but PPA specifically is not needed.04:41
micahgok, I will, then subscribe motu-releasE?04:43
ajmitch_StevenK: you weren't at that one, were you?04:45
StevenKajmitch_: Nope04:49
micahgScottK: seems to be fine04:57
micahgonly issue  is report a bug goes to upstream04:57
micahgbut I think the same is true in the current version04:57
ScottKmicahg: OK, file your bug.04:57
micahgand I subscribe motu-releasE?04:58
ScottKmicahg: Yes.05:00
micahgok, thanks05:00
ScottKThere was a new feature in there, so it needs FFe (small one though)05:00
micahgnew cli option?05:02
ScottKYep05:03
micahgshould I copy the fix list into the bug?05:03
ScottKYes05:03
ScottKRead the requirements for FFe.05:03
ScottKIt's on the wiki, but I don't recall exactly where05:03
micahgyeah, I've read it before05:04
* micahg doesn't trust the wiki for some reason05:04
micahgI'll attach the debdiff too05:05
porthosehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess05:06
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wrapstergeser: i didnt quite understand could you help me again?06:00
sujihi, i upload my package for review, it is here http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=695007:08
sujibut there is a warning message, i don't know what is that?07:09
RAOFsuji: There's no .orig.tar.gz there, so the source can't be extracted.07:13
sujiRAOF: now what i do to add .orig.tar.gz there?07:14
RAOFsuji: You need to build your source package with -sa.  That forces the .orig.tar.gz to be included in the changes file.07:16
sujiRAOF: ok07:16
sujiRAOF: Again i got some warning, there are here http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=695107:33
RAOFsuji: Those are problems with your package; they should be reasonably self-explanatory.07:34
keesScottK: (or other motu-release) I have two SELinux uploads ready for manual push: selinux and refpolicy-ubuntu.  as selinux does not currently work sanely in Karmic, these cannot be regressions.  :)  also, they are not seeded on ISOs.07:34
sujiRAOF: In the maintainer field what should i give?07:36
RAOFsuji: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete - since it'll be going into Universe, it'd probably be "Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com>"07:40
mrooneyhow easy/hard would it be to get a one-line crasher fix into a universe package at this time? impossible?08:27
mrooneyspecifically bug 394394, I've attached a patch for the specific file, what do I ideally need, a debdiff?08:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 394394 in wxbanker "unable to start if wxpython default install is < 2.8" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39439408:38
joaopintogood morning08:45
porthosemrooney, I would say attach a debdiff and subscribe u-u-s ;)08:49
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mrooneyporthose|afk: okay thanks, will do :)08:56
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geserwrapster: what did you not understand?09:23
wrapstergeser: one moment09:52
wrapstergeser: here is the pastie again...: now from what i understand.. i'll let the 32 bit version run(build_32 will run) it will generate a few .so files in some directory... then in build_64 section.. I should copy these .so files first to some temp directory run the build again but this time for 64.. Then the generated .so files will be of 64bit that I need to again relocate to appropriate dir...10:02
wrapsterIs this understanding right?10:02
geseryes10:04
wrapsterok thanks... I'll do it right now.. and give you the results..10:05
proppyHi, is there a way to get python dist/site-packages path from a python/shell prompt ? I'm trying to update python-poker-network debian/ubuntu packaging to work with python2.6 ?10:28
proppyand there is hardcoded path to /usr/lib/python$(python -c 'import sys; print sys.version[:3]')/site-packages in init files10:28
POXuse --install-layout=deb or --install-lib=/usr/lib/pythonX.Y/site-packages10:29
POXor take a look at include /usr/share/python/python.mk10:31
POXs/include //10:32
geserproppy: python -c 'from distutils import sysconfig; print(sysconfig.get_python_lib())' (taken from python.mk)10:33
wrapstergeser: so far it was all working fine.. all of a sudden.. http://pastie.org/66319710:33
wrapsteri didnt change a thing... no additions /no deletions...10:33
proppygeser: Thanks for the tips10:33
proppyPOX: thanks too10:33
geserwrapster: is this the 32bit or 64bit build?10:34
wrapstergeser: 32bit build10:35
wrapsterthe default one10:35
POXproppy: http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/python-modules/packages/paste/trunk/debian/rules?view=markup10:35
geserwrapster: looks like it's missing a include now (it happened to other packages too)10:36
proppyPOX: geser: the following patch do the trick http://pastebin.com/f377edcc910:38
proppythanks10:38
wrapstergeser: oh my god.. ironical... how do i find out whats missing now...10:39
wrapsterhmm10:39
geserlook into the manpage of rindex to find out which include is missing and add it to the other ones in that .c file10:41
mok01Where can I find documentation on the personalities of the various ubuntu kernels?11:19
wrapstergeser: http://pastie.org/66192211:32
wrapsterthats what i did.. i was able to backup all the .so files to debian/32 but when the build_64 section was encountered I still get the same.. #file <*.so> will still show it as 32bit only.. could you please let me know what mistake im making?11:33
geserdid you look at your log if it really rebuild everything or just checked if it's still uptodate? you might need to clean the source before build for 64bit11:36
ScottKkees: Pushed.11:41
wrapsterls11:41
YokoZarScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/spring-engine/+bug/457059  (that game I mentioned yesterday)11:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 457059 in spring-engine "Freeze Exception Request: spring-engine" [Undecided,Fix released]11:44
ScottKYokoZar: I just accepted it11:44
YokoZaroh snap looks like it already got approved haha11:44
YokoZaryou're awesome11:44
YokoZarI even looked at my email like 5 minutes ago11:44
Laneyurgh11:48
wrapstergeser: ok so i added a sleep to see if the section was executed and also ran a clean before I could copy... this is what i added ...http://pastie.org/66327311:50
LaneyI lost my script to generate the haskell installability graphs11:50
wrapsterthe manipulate section is there before clean thats coz all those 'cp' that you see will end in an error as they are generated by the build_32 section.... so before i clean it up i will copy then clean.11:50
wrapstergeser: the 64bit build made some progress but failed here http://pastie.org/66327811:56
gesersorry, don't know why the file is missing12:00
wrapstergeser: this is the actual issue... http://pastie.org/66333412:49
wrapsteri didnt get the previous one i had written...12:49
wrapsteris this a generic issue while cross-compiling?12:49
wrapsteris it got to do with the flags?12:50
geserwrapster: looks like it wants to link the amd64 .o files into an i386 .so. I don't know if there is only a flag missing but you need to also modify the -L value to point to your amd64 libs and make sure that the libs mentioned in -l are also there (in amd64 variants)12:54
wrapsterok.12:55
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jdonghmph does eclipse REALLY still lack word wrap?14:50
Messionline boxing game http://www.kobox.org/kobox-fande-Nourine.html15:22
iulianWhut?15:24
jbichabdmurray: I noticed you triaged bug 440098 as high, are you willing to sponsor the patch?15:51
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/440098)15:51
keesScottK: thanks for the push!  :)17:24
bodhi_zazenquestion re: ppa =017:53
bodhi_zazenI made a ppa on LP :17:53
bodhi_zazenhttps://launchpad.net/~zenix-shravaka/+ppa-packages17:53
bodhi_zazenI uploaded a package, but it does not show at that url ???17:54
ScottKbodhi_zazen: #launchpad is a better channel for PPA questions.17:54
bodhi_zazenIt shows here : https://launchpad.net/~zenix-shravaka/+archive/ppa/+packages17:54
bodhi_zazenAh, thanks ScottK17:54
bddebianIs there any chance in heck of getting the new lordsawar upstream that I just uploaded to Debian, into Karmic?18:04
ScottKbddebian: Sure.  I'm very easy about FFe for games.18:04
bddebianScottK: That means I need to remember how to file sync requests and FFes :)18:05
ScottKbddebian: That or Tom Sawyer someone else into doing it.18:06
LaneyIs there anything wrong with "manual" syncing?18:06
Laneyvia the syncpackage script18:06
bddebianHmm, I wonder if I can beg persia :)18:07
LaneyI'll request the sync if you get approval to upload18:08
ari-tczewhi, is it possible to get it before karmic's final release? bug #45574418:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 455744 in tinyproxy "[FFe] New upstream bug-fix release 1.6.5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45574418:09
Laneybug fix releases don't need ffes18:10
ScottKLaney: It should be avoided if possible as it introduces chances to mess up.18:29
ScottKari-tczew: If it's bug fix only it doesn't need an FFe up through Sunday.18:29
ari-tczewjest, it's bug-fix only, as information attached in bug18:31
ari-tczewyes *18:31
ScottKSo just needs a sponsor review/approval.18:31
* sbeattie would appreciate a sponsor for bug 38963318:31
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/389633)18:31
ari-tczewubuntu-universe-sponsors subscribed18:32
ari-tczewI subscribed fabrice, but he is not glad for this reason :P18:34
ari-tczewScottK: is it need change status to Confirmed?18:35
ari-tczewalready is New18:35
ScottKari-tczew: Confirmed is for after the sponsor has approved it.18:36
sebnerScottK: you could start with bug #457516 :D  no rdepends so won't break anything18:40
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/457516)18:40
ScottKFor you, sure.18:40
ScottKsebner: Ack'ed.18:44
bddebianLaney: Was that for me and lordsawar?18:44
ari-tczewScottK: could you approv for my bug? :>18:45
sebnerScottK: you are my hero. thank you very much :) I filed bugs for nexuiz(-data) but I have to testbuild and generally add content there. I'll bug you again if I'm ready. Is that ok for you?18:45
ScottKari-tczew: I don't have time to review it for sponsorship now, so no.  J18:45
ScottKsebner: Generally I get to the FFe bugs pretty quickly through bugmail, so I'd prefer just to do it that way.18:45
sebnerScottK: as you wish :)18:46
ScottKbddebian: Are you still MOTU?18:46
bddebianScottK: I didn't think so but persia says I'm still listed18:47
ScottKIf you're still listed, maybe you could review ari-tczew's bug for sponsorship and he could do your lordsawar FFe?18:47
frandieguezHi all! I have reported 2 bugs on launchpad (https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/457001) and (https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/457007) as you can see are bugs related with translations. One of them is very important cause is very visible on the menĂº.. Did you think that developers will fix this in time to tomorrow freeze??18:51
iuliansebner: Approved.18:51
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/457001)18:51
sebneriulian: uhuhuhuh, another hero :) thx18:51
iulianThank you.18:52
chrisccoulsonsbeattie - won't bash-completion need a conflicts/replaces on the versions of svk which ship /etc/bash_completion.d/svk?18:54
chrisccoulsonelse upgrades will still break18:55
ScottKfrandieguez: It's extremely unlikely for tomorrow.  It is in theory possible to be fixed between the RC and final.18:56
bddebianHmm, I think av` owes me :)18:56
ScottKdpm: You might want to look at frandieguez's bugs ^^^^18:57
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frandieguezThanks to all!18:57
dpmthanks ScottK, I was looking at them right now, but I've got a meeting in 3 mins18:58
ScottKdpm: OK.  Just wanted to make sure you were aware.18:58
dpmScottK, sure, thanks for pointing them out to me18:58
dpmfrandieguez, ScottK, one of them is easily fixable, (I will contact the Galician translators), the other one I'll have to look into in more detail18:59
frandieguezdpm, ok thanks before all18:59
sbeattiechrisccoulson: doh, you're right.18:59
dpmfrandieguez, np, you're welcome18:59
av`bddebian, hey barry, what's up? :)19:00
bddebianav`: I'm just being lazy and trying get lordswar synced for karmic :)19:03
av`bddebian, sure, is there a bug open for it already?19:04
bddebianav`: Nope, I just uploaded it to Debian a couple hours ago19:04
ScottKbddebian: You aren't being lazy.  You are striving for minimal effort.  Lazy would be not worrying about the sync.19:04
bddebianScottK: Heh, thanks :)19:04
av`ScottK, do you think we can have it synced at this time?19:05
av`ScottK, I gonna take care to test it to check out if everything is working the right way if it's ok for you to have it synced19:06
ScottKav`: As long as we get an FFe in soonish, it should be doable.19:07
av`ScottK, great, thanks19:07
av`bddebian, please add an FFe bug for it asap, and then I gonna add some comments if my tests went fine19:08
ScottKav`: I think he wants you to do the FFe bug too19:08
av`oh ok19:08
av`gonna take care of it later then, so it's done for today19:09
av`bddebian, ^^ :)19:09
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ari-tczew.19:22
lfaraoneScottK: do you have time to sponsor a pretty old patch for daemontools? bug 25346519:24
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/253465)19:24
ScottKlfaraone: Not now.  Busy with $WORK.  Sorry19:24
sebnerubottu: did you break LP you bad boy?19:24
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:24
sebnerright :P19:24
* lfaraone hopes to find a bored MOTU.19:24
fabrice_sphi ari-tczew it seems I have (bad) internet access. I'll have a look at #45574419:25
ari-tczewhi Fabrice19:26
lfaraoneScottK: understood.19:29
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bddebianGads I'ver forgotten how much I hate LP :(20:21
av`bddebian, I'm testing it a bit then I open up the FFe request for you ;)20:22
hyperairwhat's wrong with LP?20:22
bddebianav`: Thanks since I can't even seem to get on fcking LP20:22
av`hyperair, some proxy problems20:23
hyperairheh i see20:23
hyperairthose suck20:23
av`works fine for me20:23
av`bddebian, looks like a nice game but I'm a total noob at it atm :D20:25
bddebianhyperair: Not to mention I just find it slow and cumbersome in general :(20:26
bddebianav`: Yeah, it kicks my arse all the time.  I tend to suck at RTS type games. :)20:26
hyperairi kinda like launchpad's bug interface20:26
hyperairit's better than debian's at the very least =\20:26
av`bddebian, at every turn a new hero decides to follow me, e.g all the map will be mine in a sec :D20:26
hyperairi don't have to dig through the bloody manpage every time i need to change the status of some bug20:27
bddebianhyperair: I'm not sure that is a measure to be proud of. :)20:27
hyperairheheheh20:27
hyperairright good point20:27
hyperairit's better than bugzilla!20:27
hyperairyes, at least it lets me remain logged in20:27
hyperairstupid damn bugzilla invalidates its own cookies20:27
zookoI find it mildly confusing that LP is so slow.20:28
hyperairthen i have to start clearing them out or i'll have to keep reentering my credentials for every move20:28
jcastroit always gets like this around release unfortunately20:28
bddebianheh20:28
zookoIt's written in Python, right?  And it is new and well-maintained, and has a real company to buy servers to run it.  So why is it slow?20:28
hyperairpython is slow?20:28
zookoOh well, I'm sure there's an interesting reason having to do with relational databases...20:28
av`bddebian, #45757720:36
av`bddebian, I've subscribed you so you gonna receive a copy on your mail box soon20:36
ajmitchmorning20:38
bddebianHeya ajmitch20:39
av`hello20:39
bddebianav`: Thanks, now if I could just get to it20:43
av`bddebian, LP loads fine here20:45
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bddebianStill not here :(20:52
av`bddebian, maybe because I'm running under edge20:52
bddebianHeh20:53
bddebianDo I need to do anything to that bug?21:04
av`just pop up if an input is needed from you21:05
av`bddebian, anyway I gonna take care of having it done, you'll receive all messages since you are subscribed so np21:06
bddebianav`: Rockin' thanks21:07
av`bddebian, np, I owe you some favours so it's time to give something back21:08
av`;)21:08
bddebianheh21:09
jack__how do I build a package from git?21:46
mok0jack__: git-buildpackage21:47
jack__jack__, but there is no debian folder in it yet21:47
mok0jack__: well, you need that :-)21:48
jack__mok0, I used cdbs for it on a tar.gz package... but how to do it with just a source downloaded from git?21:48
mok0jack__: you still need to have the orig.tar.gz file21:49
mok0jack__: building directly from a VCS is still up in the air21:50
mok0jack__: it's not even supported by uscan AFAIK21:50
jack__mmh21:52
mok0jack__: yeah :-)21:53
geserHi bddebian, ajmitch and av`22:21
ajmitchhi geser22:21
av`heya geser22:21
bddebianHeya geser22:23
sebnerhuhu geser bddebian22:23
sebnerand the rest22:23
geserHi sebner22:23
sebner;)22:23
bddebianHeya sebner22:28
quidnuncIs there an easy way to build a debian package from a common lisp adsf-install package? common-lisp-controller claims it contains a tool to do this but I cannot find what it is.22:41
ScottKquidnunc: I've seen lots of claims for such tools.  I've never found one that produced good packages though22:42
quidnuncScottK: It's only for personal use. So "okay" is good enough.22:43
ScottKThat's reasonable22:43
sebnerScottK: I just built nexuiz-data for 2 hours. Please believe me that it worked as I don't have a build log! xD22:49
ScottKsebner: Put it in the bug.23:19
c_kornhuh ? http://pastebin.com/d40d33a1423:20
c_kornit checks whether 4 < 32 and not 4<3 ?23:20
geserc_korn: yes, dpkg --compare-versions 7.4 lt 7.32 && echo true23:24
c_kornok, I did not expect that. have to recompile now ... :/  thanks23:25
geserc_korn: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version if you are interested how versions are compared23:27
sebnerScottK: what do you mean with "put it in the bug?"23:28
ScottKsebner: That you built it, but have no log23:28
sebnerScottK: aye aye23:28
sebnerScottK: I always have the "Setting up stuff" so I'm trustworthy imho ^^23:28
sebnerScottK: subscribed you guys23:34
c_korngeser: thanks. bookmarked it23:34
sebnerScottK: do you have time now to take a look at it (if you need anything further)? else I'd go to bed (Past midnight already)23:35
ScottKsebner: No.  I'm in the middle of cooking dinner and kids with homework23:43
sebnerScottK: ah, no problem. Cya tomorrow then. Don't forget to let sispoty know when you see him. He is going mad, I promise :D  good night :)23:44
ajmitchtrying to find fixes for bugs in the boost svn repository is painful23:47
ScottKajmitch: boost and pain is pretty redundant, IMO23:51
ajmitchScottK: yeah, there's a bug where a number of packages will be breaking with libboost-python & python >= 2.6.323:54
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zookoHave a URL for that bug?23:54
ajmitchapparantly fixed in boost svn, but I haven't found it yet23:55
ajmitchhttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/boost1.38/+bug/45768823:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 457688 in boost1.38 "libboost-python1.38 issues with __doc__ property in Python >= 2.6.3" [Undecided,Confirmed]23:55
ScottKajmitch: Odd, we're all the way to 2.6.4 already, but I didn't hear of a lot of problems?23:58
ajmitchScottK: yeah, python-visual had some other problems that have been masking it23:59

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