[00:03] <AdamDH> hi all, to create a meta package, how do I go about it?
[03:57] <ScottK> Come on folks.  Let's upload some FTBFS fixes ....
[04:11] <ScottK> Found a package that hasn't been touched since Hoary.
[04:12] <directhex> has it been touched in debian?
[04:13] <ScottK> Doesn't exist in Debian since before Etch.  Not sure why we kept it.
[04:14] <ScottK> It's also possible it was never in Debian, since that long ago the practice of adding ubuntu to the revision was not firmly established (I don't think)
[04:14] <ajmitch_> ScottK: what's the package?
[04:14] <ScottK> ajmitch_: rail
[04:16]  * ajmitch_ doesn't see anything in the *-changes lists about it, it probably did come in from debian & was never properly cleaned up
[04:18] <ajmitch_> either that, or it was one of the crack packages imported from a non-debian source, as was done in those days
[04:19] <ajmitch_> eg http://arege.jp/debian-arege/dists/unstable/rail/source/
[04:19] <ajmitch_> from way back in 2001 :)
[04:22] <ScottK> Lovely.
[04:22] <ScottK> Nice detective work.
[04:26] <ajmitch_> apt-get.org was the main index of all these repositories
[04:29] <ScottK> Right.  I remember some of you that were around then discussing it.
[04:30] <ajmitch_> it was scary seeing that photo on jcastro's blog from UDU :)
[04:31] <micahg> ScottK: are the bug fixes listed here worth a sync with debian (we have 1.5.2): http://qbittorrent.sourceforge.net/news.php
[04:32] <ScottK> micahg: Without looking, I'll tell you we pretty much always want the latest crack with torrent stuff.
[04:32] <micahg> should I request a sync then?
[04:33] <ScottK> micahg: As long as it builds and you test it works, sure.
[04:33] <micahg> do you want me to grab the debian version an push to ppa first?
[04:37] <StevenK> ajmitch_: Haha
[04:41] <ScottK> micahg: I want you to build it, test it, and document this in a bug.  If you choose to use a PPA to help you do that, it's fine, but PPA specifically is not needed.
[04:43] <micahg> ok, I will, then subscribe motu-releasE?
[04:45] <ajmitch_> StevenK: you weren't at that one, were you?
[04:49] <StevenK> ajmitch_: Nope
[04:57] <micahg> ScottK: seems to be fine
[04:57] <micahg> only issue  is report a bug goes to upstream
[04:57] <micahg> but I think the same is true in the current version
[04:57] <ScottK> micahg: OK, file your bug.
[04:58] <micahg> and I subscribe motu-releasE?
[05:00] <ScottK> micahg: Yes.
[05:00] <micahg> ok, thanks
[05:00] <ScottK> There was a new feature in there, so it needs FFe (small one though)
[05:02] <micahg> new cli option?
[05:03] <ScottK> Yep
[05:03] <micahg> should I copy the fix list into the bug?
[05:03] <ScottK> Yes
[05:03] <ScottK> Read the requirements for FFe.
[05:03] <ScottK> It's on the wiki, but I don't recall exactly where
[05:04] <micahg> yeah, I've read it before
[05:04]  * micahg doesn't trust the wiki for some reason
[05:05] <micahg> I'll attach the debdiff too
[05:06] <porthose> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess
[06:00] <wrapster> geser: i didnt quite understand could you help me again?
[07:08] <suji> hi, i upload my package for review, it is here http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=6950
[07:09] <suji> but there is a warning message, i don't know what is that?
[07:13] <RAOF> suji: There's no .orig.tar.gz there, so the source can't be extracted.
[07:14] <suji> RAOF: now what i do to add .orig.tar.gz there?
[07:16] <RAOF> suji: You need to build your source package with -sa.  That forces the .orig.tar.gz to be included in the changes file.
[07:16] <suji> RAOF: ok
[07:33] <suji> RAOF: Again i got some warning, there are here http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=6951
[07:34] <RAOF> suji: Those are problems with your package; they should be reasonably self-explanatory.
[07:34] <kees> ScottK: (or other motu-release) I have two SELinux uploads ready for manual push: selinux and refpolicy-ubuntu.  as selinux does not currently work sanely in Karmic, these cannot be regressions.  :)  also, they are not seeded on ISOs.
[07:36] <suji> RAOF: In the maintainer field what should i give?
[07:40] <RAOF> suji: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete - since it'll be going into Universe, it'd probably be "Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com>"
[08:27] <mrooney> how easy/hard would it be to get a one-line crasher fix into a universe package at this time? impossible?
[08:38] <mrooney> specifically bug 394394, I've attached a patch for the specific file, what do I ideally need, a debdiff?
[08:45] <joaopinto> good morning
[08:49] <porthose> mrooney, I would say attach a debdiff and subscribe u-u-s ;)
[08:56] <mrooney> porthose|afk: okay thanks, will do :)
[09:23] <geser> wrapster: what did you not understand?
[09:52] <wrapster> geser: one moment
[10:02] <wrapster> geser: here is the pastie again...: now from what i understand.. i'll let the 32 bit version run(build_32 will run) it will generate a few .so files in some directory... then in build_64 section.. I should copy these .so files first to some temp directory run the build again but this time for 64.. Then the generated .so files will be of 64bit that I need to again relocate to appropriate dir...
[10:02] <wrapster> Is this understanding right?
[10:04] <geser> yes
[10:05] <wrapster> ok thanks... I'll do it right now.. and give you the results..
[10:28] <proppy> Hi, is there a way to get python dist/site-packages path from a python/shell prompt ? I'm trying to update python-poker-network debian/ubuntu packaging to work with python2.6 ?
[10:28] <proppy> and there is hardcoded path to /usr/lib/python$(python -c 'import sys; print sys.version[:3]')/site-packages in init files
[10:29] <POX> use --install-layout=deb or --install-lib=/usr/lib/pythonX.Y/site-packages
[10:31] <POX> or take a look at include /usr/share/python/python.mk
[10:32] <POX> s/include //
[10:33] <geser> proppy: python -c 'from distutils import sysconfig; print(sysconfig.get_python_lib())' (taken from python.mk)
[10:33] <wrapster> geser: so far it was all working fine.. all of a sudden.. http://pastie.org/663197
[10:33] <wrapster> i didnt change a thing... no additions /no deletions...
[10:33] <proppy> geser: Thanks for the tips
[10:33] <proppy> POX: thanks too
[10:34] <geser> wrapster: is this the 32bit or 64bit build?
[10:35] <wrapster> geser: 32bit build
[10:35] <wrapster> the default one
[10:35] <POX> proppy: http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/python-modules/packages/paste/trunk/debian/rules?view=markup
[10:36] <geser> wrapster: looks like it's missing a include now (it happened to other packages too)
[10:38] <proppy> POX: geser: the following patch do the trick http://pastebin.com/f377edcc9
[10:38] <proppy> thanks
[10:39] <wrapster> geser: oh my god.. ironical... how do i find out whats missing now...
[10:39] <wrapster> hmm
[10:41] <geser> look into the manpage of rindex to find out which include is missing and add it to the other ones in that .c file
[11:19] <mok01> Where can I find documentation on the personalities of the various ubuntu kernels?
[11:32] <wrapster> geser: http://pastie.org/661922
[11:33] <wrapster> thats what i did.. i was able to backup all the .so files to debian/32 but when the build_64 section was encountered I still get the same.. #file <*.so> will still show it as 32bit only.. could you please let me know what mistake im making?
[11:36] <geser> did you look at your log if it really rebuild everything or just checked if it's still uptodate? you might need to clean the source before build for 64bit
[11:41] <ScottK> kees: Pushed.
[11:41] <wrapster> ls
[11:44] <YokoZar> ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/spring-engine/+bug/457059  (that game I mentioned yesterday)
[11:44] <ScottK> YokoZar: I just accepted it
[11:44] <YokoZar> oh snap looks like it already got approved haha
[11:44] <YokoZar> you're awesome
[11:44] <YokoZar> I even looked at my email like 5 minutes ago
[11:48] <Laney> urgh
[11:50] <wrapster> geser: ok so i added a sleep to see if the section was executed and also ran a clean before I could copy... this is what i added ...http://pastie.org/663273
[11:50] <Laney> I lost my script to generate the haskell installability graphs
[11:50] <wrapster> the manipulate section is there before clean thats coz all those 'cp' that you see will end in an error as they are generated by the build_32 section.... so before i clean it up i will copy then clean.
[11:56] <wrapster> geser: the 64bit build made some progress but failed here http://pastie.org/663278
[12:00] <geser> sorry, don't know why the file is missing
[12:49] <wrapster> geser: this is the actual issue... http://pastie.org/663334
[12:49] <wrapster> i didnt get the previous one i had written...
[12:49] <wrapster> is this a generic issue while cross-compiling?
[12:50] <wrapster> is it got to do with the flags?
[12:54] <geser> wrapster: looks like it wants to link the amd64 .o files into an i386 .so. I don't know if there is only a flag missing but you need to also modify the -L value to point to your amd64 libs and make sure that the libs mentioned in -l are also there (in amd64 variants)
[12:55] <wrapster> ok.
[14:50] <jdong> hmph does eclipse REALLY still lack word wrap?
[15:22] <Messi> online boxing game http://www.kobox.org/kobox-fande-Nourine.html
[15:24] <iulian> Whut?
[15:51] <jbicha> bdmurray: I noticed you triaged bug 440098 as high, are you willing to sponsor the patch?
[17:24] <kees> ScottK: thanks for the push!  :)
[17:53] <bodhi_zazen> question re: ppa =0
[17:53] <bodhi_zazen> I made a ppa on LP :
[17:53] <bodhi_zazen> https://launchpad.net/~zenix-shravaka/+ppa-packages
[17:54] <bodhi_zazen> I uploaded a package, but it does not show at that url ???
[17:54] <ScottK> bodhi_zazen: #launchpad is a better channel for PPA questions.
[17:54] <bodhi_zazen> It shows here : https://launchpad.net/~zenix-shravaka/+archive/ppa/+packages
[17:54] <bodhi_zazen> Ah, thanks ScottK
[18:04] <bddebian> Is there any chance in heck of getting the new lordsawar upstream that I just uploaded to Debian, into Karmic?
[18:04] <ScottK> bddebian: Sure.  I'm very easy about FFe for games.
[18:05] <bddebian> ScottK: That means I need to remember how to file sync requests and FFes :)
[18:06] <ScottK> bddebian: That or Tom Sawyer someone else into doing it.
[18:06] <Laney> Is there anything wrong with "manual" syncing?
[18:06] <Laney> via the syncpackage script
[18:07] <bddebian> Hmm, I wonder if I can beg persia :)
[18:08] <Laney> I'll request the sync if you get approval to upload
[18:09] <ari-tczew> hi, is it possible to get it before karmic's final release? bug #455744
[18:10] <Laney> bug fix releases don't need ffes
[18:29] <ScottK> Laney: It should be avoided if possible as it introduces chances to mess up.
[18:29] <ScottK> ari-tczew: If it's bug fix only it doesn't need an FFe up through Sunday.
[18:31] <ari-tczew> jest, it's bug-fix only, as information attached in bug
[18:31] <ari-tczew> yes *
[18:31] <ScottK> So just needs a sponsor review/approval.
[18:31]  * sbeattie would appreciate a sponsor for bug 389633
[18:32] <ari-tczew> ubuntu-universe-sponsors subscribed
[18:34] <ari-tczew> I subscribed fabrice, but he is not glad for this reason :P
[18:35] <ari-tczew> ScottK: is it need change status to Confirmed?
[18:35] <ari-tczew> already is New
[18:36] <ScottK> ari-tczew: Confirmed is for after the sponsor has approved it.
[18:40] <sebner> ScottK: you could start with bug #457516 :D  no rdepends so won't break anything
[18:40] <ScottK> For you, sure.
[18:44] <ScottK> sebner: Ack'ed.
[18:44] <bddebian> Laney: Was that for me and lordsawar?
[18:45] <ari-tczew> ScottK: could you approv for my bug? :>
[18:45] <sebner> ScottK: you are my hero. thank you very much :) I filed bugs for nexuiz(-data) but I have to testbuild and generally add content there. I'll bug you again if I'm ready. Is that ok for you?
[18:45] <ScottK> ari-tczew: I don't have time to review it for sponsorship now, so no.  J
[18:45] <ScottK> sebner: Generally I get to the FFe bugs pretty quickly through bugmail, so I'd prefer just to do it that way.
[18:46] <sebner> ScottK: as you wish :)
[18:46] <ScottK> bddebian: Are you still MOTU?
[18:47] <bddebian> ScottK: I didn't think so but persia says I'm still listed
[18:47] <ScottK> If you're still listed, maybe you could review ari-tczew's bug for sponsorship and he could do your lordsawar FFe?
[18:51] <frandieguez> Hi all! I have reported 2 bugs on launchpad (https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/457001) and (https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/457007) as you can see are bugs related with translations. One of them is very important cause is very visible on the menú.. Did you think that developers will fix this in time to tomorrow freeze??
[18:51] <iulian> sebner: Approved.
[18:51] <sebner> iulian: uhuhuhuh, another hero :) thx
[18:52] <iulian> Thank you.
[18:54] <chrisccoulson> sbeattie - won't bash-completion need a conflicts/replaces on the versions of svk which ship /etc/bash_completion.d/svk?
[18:55] <chrisccoulson> else upgrades will still break
[18:56] <ScottK> frandieguez: It's extremely unlikely for tomorrow.  It is in theory possible to be fixed between the RC and final.
[18:56] <bddebian> Hmm, I think av` owes me :)
[18:57] <ScottK> dpm: You might want to look at frandieguez's bugs ^^^^
[18:57] <frandieguez> Thanks to all!
[18:58] <dpm> thanks ScottK, I was looking at them right now, but I've got a meeting in 3 mins
[18:58] <ScottK> dpm: OK.  Just wanted to make sure you were aware.
[18:58] <dpm> ScottK, sure, thanks for pointing them out to me
[18:59] <dpm> frandieguez, ScottK, one of them is easily fixable, (I will contact the Galician translators), the other one I'll have to look into in more detail
[18:59] <frandieguez> dpm, ok thanks before all
[18:59] <sbeattie> chrisccoulson: doh, you're right.
[18:59] <dpm> frandieguez, np, you're welcome
[19:00] <av`> bddebian, hey barry, what's up? :)
[19:03] <bddebian> av`: I'm just being lazy and trying get lordswar synced for karmic :)
[19:04] <av`> bddebian, sure, is there a bug open for it already?
[19:04] <bddebian> av`: Nope, I just uploaded it to Debian a couple hours ago
[19:04] <ScottK> bddebian: You aren't being lazy.  You are striving for minimal effort.  Lazy would be not worrying about the sync.
[19:04] <bddebian> ScottK: Heh, thanks :)
[19:05] <av`> ScottK, do you think we can have it synced at this time?
[19:06] <av`> ScottK, I gonna take care to test it to check out if everything is working the right way if it's ok for you to have it synced
[19:07] <ScottK> av`: As long as we get an FFe in soonish, it should be doable.
[19:07] <av`> ScottK, great, thanks
[19:08] <av`> bddebian, please add an FFe bug for it asap, and then I gonna add some comments if my tests went fine
[19:08] <ScottK> av`: I think he wants you to do the FFe bug too
[19:08] <av`> oh ok
[19:09] <av`> gonna take care of it later then, so it's done for today
[19:09] <av`> bddebian, ^^ :)
[19:22] <ari-tczew> .
[19:24] <lfaraone> ScottK: do you have time to sponsor a pretty old patch for daemontools? bug 253465
[19:24] <ScottK> lfaraone: Not now.  Busy with $WORK.  Sorry
[19:24] <sebner> ubottu: did you break LP you bad boy?
[19:24] <sebner> right :P
[19:24]  * lfaraone hopes to find a bored MOTU.
[19:25] <fabrice_sp> hi ari-tczew it seems I have (bad) internet access. I'll have a look at #455744
[19:26] <ari-tczew> hi Fabrice
[19:29] <lfaraone> ScottK: understood.
[20:21] <bddebian> Gads I'ver forgotten how much I hate LP :(
[20:22] <av`> bddebian, I'm testing it a bit then I open up the FFe request for you ;)
[20:22] <hyperair> what's wrong with LP?
[20:22] <bddebian> av`: Thanks since I can't even seem to get on fcking LP
[20:23] <av`> hyperair, some proxy problems
[20:23] <hyperair> heh i see
[20:23] <hyperair> those suck
[20:23] <av`> works fine for me
[20:25] <av`> bddebian, looks like a nice game but I'm a total noob at it atm :D
[20:26] <bddebian> hyperair: Not to mention I just find it slow and cumbersome in general :(
[20:26] <bddebian> av`: Yeah, it kicks my arse all the time.  I tend to suck at RTS type games. :)
[20:26] <hyperair> i kinda like launchpad's bug interface
[20:26] <hyperair> it's better than debian's at the very least =\
[20:26] <av`> bddebian, at every turn a new hero decides to follow me, e.g all the map will be mine in a sec :D
[20:27] <hyperair> i don't have to dig through the bloody manpage every time i need to change the status of some bug
[20:27] <bddebian> hyperair: I'm not sure that is a measure to be proud of. :)
[20:27] <hyperair> heheheh
[20:27] <hyperair> right good point
[20:27] <hyperair> it's better than bugzilla!
[20:27] <hyperair> yes, at least it lets me remain logged in
[20:27] <hyperair> stupid damn bugzilla invalidates its own cookies
[20:28] <zooko> I find it mildly confusing that LP is so slow.
[20:28] <hyperair> then i have to start clearing them out or i'll have to keep reentering my credentials for every move
[20:28] <jcastro> it always gets like this around release unfortunately
[20:28] <bddebian> heh
[20:28] <zooko> It's written in Python, right?  And it is new and well-maintained, and has a real company to buy servers to run it.  So why is it slow?
[20:28] <hyperair> python is slow?
[20:28] <zooko> Oh well, I'm sure there's an interesting reason having to do with relational databases...
[20:36] <av`> bddebian, #457577
[20:36] <av`> bddebian, I've subscribed you so you gonna receive a copy on your mail box soon
[20:38] <ajmitch> morning
[20:39] <bddebian> Heya ajmitch
[20:39] <av`> hello
[20:43] <bddebian> av`: Thanks, now if I could just get to it
[20:45] <av`> bddebian, LP loads fine here
[20:52] <bddebian> Still not here :(
[20:52] <av`> bddebian, maybe because I'm running under edge
[20:53] <bddebian> Heh
[21:04] <bddebian> Do I need to do anything to that bug?
[21:05] <av`> just pop up if an input is needed from you
[21:06] <av`> bddebian, anyway I gonna take care of having it done, you'll receive all messages since you are subscribed so np
[21:07] <bddebian> av`: Rockin' thanks
[21:08] <av`> bddebian, np, I owe you some favours so it's time to give something back
[21:08] <av`> ;)
[21:09] <bddebian> heh
[21:46] <jack__> how do I build a package from git?
[21:47] <mok0> jack__: git-buildpackage
[21:47] <jack__> jack__, but there is no debian folder in it yet
[21:48] <mok0> jack__: well, you need that :-)
[21:48] <jack__> mok0, I used cdbs for it on a tar.gz package... but how to do it with just a source downloaded from git?
[21:49] <mok0> jack__: you still need to have the orig.tar.gz file
[21:50] <mok0> jack__: building directly from a VCS is still up in the air
[21:50] <mok0> jack__: it's not even supported by uscan AFAIK
[21:52] <jack__> mmh
[21:53] <mok0> jack__: yeah :-)
[22:21] <geser> Hi bddebian, ajmitch and av`
[22:21] <ajmitch> hi geser
[22:21] <av`> heya geser
[22:23] <bddebian> Heya geser
[22:23] <sebner> huhu geser bddebian
[22:23] <sebner> and the rest
[22:23] <geser> Hi sebner
[22:23] <sebner> ;)
[22:28] <bddebian> Heya sebner
[22:41] <quidnunc> Is there an easy way to build a debian package from a common lisp adsf-install package? common-lisp-controller claims it contains a tool to do this but I cannot find what it is.
[22:42] <ScottK> quidnunc: I've seen lots of claims for such tools.  I've never found one that produced good packages though
[22:43] <quidnunc> ScottK: It's only for personal use. So "okay" is good enough.
[22:43] <ScottK> That's reasonable
[22:49] <sebner> ScottK: I just built nexuiz-data for 2 hours. Please believe me that it worked as I don't have a build log! xD
[23:19] <ScottK> sebner: Put it in the bug.
[23:20] <c_korn> huh ? http://pastebin.com/d40d33a14
[23:20] <c_korn> it checks whether 4 < 32 and not 4<3 ?
[23:24] <geser> c_korn: yes, dpkg --compare-versions 7.4 lt 7.32 && echo true
[23:25] <c_korn> ok, I did not expect that. have to recompile now ... :/  thanks
[23:27] <geser> c_korn: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version if you are interested how versions are compared
[23:28] <sebner> ScottK: what do you mean with "put it in the bug?"
[23:28] <ScottK> sebner: That you built it, but have no log
[23:28] <sebner> ScottK: aye aye
[23:28] <sebner> ScottK: I always have the "Setting up stuff" so I'm trustworthy imho ^^
[23:34] <sebner> ScottK: subscribed you guys
[23:34] <c_korn> geser: thanks. bookmarked it
[23:35] <sebner> ScottK: do you have time now to take a look at it (if you need anything further)? else I'd go to bed (Past midnight already)
[23:43] <ScottK> sebner: No.  I'm in the middle of cooking dinner and kids with homework
[23:44] <sebner> ScottK: ah, no problem. Cya tomorrow then. Don't forget to let sispoty know when you see him. He is going mad, I promise :D  good night :)
[23:47] <ajmitch> trying to find fixes for bugs in the boost svn repository is painful
[23:51] <ScottK> ajmitch: boost and pain is pretty redundant, IMO
[23:54] <ajmitch> ScottK: yeah, there's a bug where a number of packages will be breaking with libboost-python & python >= 2.6.3
[23:54] <zooko> Have a URL for that bug?
[23:55] <ajmitch> apparantly fixed in boost svn, but I haven't found it yet
[23:55] <ajmitch> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/boost1.38/+bug/457688
[23:58] <ScottK> ajmitch: Odd, we're all the way to 2.6.4 already, but I didn't hear of a lot of problems?
[23:59] <ajmitch> ScottK: yeah, python-visual had some other problems that have been masking it