| jfry_ | Can someone tell me, are the dialy builds actually weekly builds or are they daily? I installed the latest and seeking is broken... it was fixed upstream but there are no new daily builds in the last 28 hours. | 00:48 |
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| mersault | jfry_: I think they're rebuild once per day, if the SVN rev number has changed | 00:50 |
| jfry_ | That | 00:51 |
| mersault | I don't know what time the cron job kicks off at though. | 00:51 |
| jfry_ | oops... that's what I thought too... but it has been 28 hours, and most automated processes don't use fuzzy logic like that. | 00:51 |
| mersault | yes, but it's the time since the last SVN change, not the last package building, that is important | 00:53 |
| foxbuntu | jfry_, they are not weekly | 00:53 |
| jfry_ | Well... actually it's been 28 hours since the current daily build revision was complete... there was another change posted within an hour afterward... so I know the current daily build pulled its source 28 hours ago... not sure when the package became available... but 4 hours seems a little long. | 00:53 |
| jfry_ | I'm just anxious... the spousal unit was frustrated today and I promised to fix it tonight. | 00:55 |
| foxbuntu | jfry_, the build take awhile to run because they get queued in LP | 00:55 |
| jfry_ | ahh... so it could really take a few hours then... OK... I'll be patient, so long as they are available from the PPA repo tonight. | 00:56 |
| foxbuntu | jfry_, unless something happens with the build it should be there | 00:57 |
| jfry_ | Thanks foxbuntu, good to have someone in the know. | 00:57 |
| foxbuntu | jfry_, np | 00:57 |
| jfry_ | foxbuntu, only minor changes to the SVN... so I can't imagine the build failing. | 00:57 |
| foxbuntu | jfry_, indeed | 01:00 |
| kaeles | ok, weird question, I got 9.10 working mostly now, but it will not scan the videos directory, i have it mounted via nfs, and it shows the files there, so its mounted correctly, but mythfrontend is not showing any files existing in the directory, any clue? | 01:00 |
| mersault | kaeles: I found it easier to move to storage groups | 01:01 |
| kaeles | how does that work in the frontend? | 01:01 |
| kaeles | should it just autodetect them? | 01:02 |
| mersault | it's all backend magic. | 01:02 |
| mersault | basically, you setup the storage groups (if you installed from scratch they're already defined for you) | 01:02 |
| kaeles | ok | 01:02 |
| mersault | they're configured on the backend. on the frontend, DON'T mount the nfs volumes. | 01:02 |
| mersault | if the frontend thinks it can find them locally, it will. | 01:03 |
| kaeles | ok, ill try that, i have the backend mounted via nfs as well | 01:03 |
| kaeles | all my media is on a seperate nas | 01:03 |
| kaeles | cause my backend is running on my vmware machine | 01:03 |
| kaeles | and it doesn't have any disks since I have 2 of them, they mount all thier drives via ataoe from my nas | 01:04 |
| mersault | aha, so I'm not the only crazy guy running a virtualized backend | 01:04 |
| kaeles | :) | 01:04 |
| kaeles | i swear, mythtv is the goofiest thing sometimes | 01:04 |
| mersault | I went with Xen though | 01:04 |
| kaeles | ah, yea, i looked at xen, but I've used vmware before, and im lazy | 01:04 |
| kaeles | :P | 01:04 |
| mersault | I tried vmware, but found the performance wasn't satisfactory | 01:05 |
| kaeles | ok i'll just try the storage groups then | 01:05 |
| mersault | even in Xen, when using HVM it isn't quite good enough | 01:05 |
| kaeles | well, i've got a quad core with 8gb ram, so its not too bad :P | 01:05 |
| mersault | same here | 01:06 |
| mersault | it was IO | 01:06 |
| mersault | Xen with PV backend seems to work *really* well | 01:06 |
| hads | What about tuners? | 01:07 |
| kaeles | oh i dont have any tuners | 01:07 |
| kaeles | so its different for me | 01:07 |
| hads | So what's the point of using myth? | 01:07 |
| mersault | HDHR works great :) | 01:07 |
| kaeles | i thought about moving to boxee for all this, but I've used mythtv for while | 01:07 |
| kaeles | and it actually works on older hardware | 01:07 |
| mersault | I also have PCI-passthrough working, so if I got a PVR150 or something, I could pass it through to the guest | 01:08 |
| kaeles | plus it has builtin stuff for diskless booting | 01:08 |
| hads | I quite like moovida for just media | 01:08 |
| kaeles | i may look into it | 01:08 |
| hads | It's currently missing digital audio and VDPAU but apart from that it's nice. | 01:09 |
| kaeles | i use neither, so no biggie | 01:09 |
| hads | I use it in a couple of rooms for mostly music and the odd video, the interface is a lot nicer than myth for music (that's not too hard though) | 01:09 |
| hads | Doesn't work with myth's upnp server unfortunately, myth and coherence don't like each other for some reason. | 01:10 |
| hads | But all my media is NFSable anyway. | 01:11 |
| kaeles | yea, the frontend is still not finding the video files even using the storage groups | 01:11 |
| kaeles | i know the video manager is deprecated now, but i still am getting no files found when i goto the view videos thing :| | 01:14 |
| kaeles | nevermind | 01:19 |
| kaeles | i am just retarded | 01:19 |
| kaeles | :D | 01:19 |
| kaeles | mersault: thanks for that, it will make adding the other frontends supa easy | 01:19 |
| mersault | kaeles: glad to hear it worked for you. | 01:29 |
| kaeles | only thing not working as far as i can tell now is its not pulling the pictures with the metadata | 01:41 |
| kaeles | but compared to .21 its amazing :P | 01:41 |
| hads | Check the log | 01:42 |
| kaeles | yea, i hadn't got that far yet, i think it may have something to do with my storage groups | 01:43 |
| hads | The frontend log will show it downloading images etc. | 01:46 |
| hads | The backend log will show it saving the images to the SG | 01:46 |
| kaeles | the storage group directories did not exist for those, so it wasnt downloading them | 01:46 |
| kaeles | its working now | 01:46 |
| kaeles | thanks though :) | 01:46 |
| hads | I thought it saved them to the videos storage group if they didn't exist. Oh well. | 01:47 |
| kaeles | 9.10 is so shiney D: | 01:47 |
| kaeles | yea, the wiki says it does, but it wasnt pulling them for some reason | 01:47 |
| kaeles | oh actually, the MCC doesnt work to install anything now that I thought about it, i had to install all the themes and lirc stuff via cli | 01:50 |
| kaeles | it acts like its installing it, but i left it from 8 am trying to install lirc till i got home at 530 | 01:50 |
| kaeles | and it didnt do anything | 01:50 |
| kaeles | what does MCC itself have logs I could peer into to see whats going on, or is that gonna be an apt/aptitiude thign? | 01:50 |
| hads | I seem to recall there's a MCC_DEBUG_SOMETHING variable or some such. | 01:52 |
| hads | But I don't really use it myself. | 01:52 |
| kaeles | righto | 01:53 |
| kaeles | i'll see what i can see, thanks for the help | 01:53 |
| OsKa | hi. anybody using the wiimote as the remote for thier mythbuntu ? | 02:04 |
| MythbuntuGuest55 | hello all | 02:11 |
| MythbuntuGuest55 | D= I have a problem | 02:11 |
| MythbuntuGuest55 | Whenever I boot the mythbuntu disc, I choose english for language and from that point, no matter if I pick live cd or install options, I get an error before anything else | 02:12 |
| MythbuntuGuest55 | [ 0.452010] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! | 02:13 |
| pache | Hi. I bought an harmony 610. What can I use as IR reiceiver? where can I find documentation? | 02:15 |
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| OsKa | a wiimote | 02:23 |
| OsKa | what is a harmony 610 | 02:23 |
| OsKa | nm | 02:23 |
| la_poisse | a logitech harmony = universal remote control | 02:24 |
| foxbuntu | la_poisse, the common receiver is the Windows MCE hardware, I know it to work with the Harmony remotes | 02:27 |
| la_poisse | nice | 02:30 |
| la_poisse | can I buy it alone you think? | 02:30 |
| foxbuntu | la_poisse, usually not, they come in remote/receiver packs | 02:32 |
| foxbuntu | la_poisse, you should be able to pick one up for ~30USD online though | 02:32 |
| kaeles | is there a way to "redo" my mythconverg database? | 02:33 |
| foxbuntu | kaeles, what do you mean "redo" | 02:34 |
| kaeles | just delete and restore the schema | 02:34 |
| kaeles | there is some metadata stuff that is broke im pretty sure, because going into the view videos on the frontend locks it up, i was adding metadata when it started happening | 02:35 |
| foxbuntu | kaeles, restore data or back to the defaults, as in its be modified | 02:35 |
| kaeles | back to defaults | 02:35 |
| kaeles | i dont want to restore data | 02:35 |
| kaeles | just delete it all and start from scratch | 02:35 |
| foxbuntu | kaeles, so you plan on losing all your DB info correct? | 02:35 |
| foxbuntu | ok | 02:36 |
| kaeles | yes | 02:36 |
| kaeles | i just installed like a few hours ago, so its not a big deal if the db info is gone, i just jacked someting up :P | 02:36 |
| foxbuntu | ok | 02:36 |
| foxbuntu | kaeles, sudo apt-get remove --purge mythtv-database | 02:37 |
| kaeles | mmm | 02:38 |
| kaeles | its wanting to remove the mythtv-backend-master pkg as well | 02:38 |
| foxbuntu | thats fine | 02:38 |
| foxbuntu | you will just reinstall them both | 02:38 |
| kaeles | ok i was just a little worried :P | 02:38 |
| kaeles | awesome works again | 02:44 |
| kaeles | one last question, is there a way to make mythfrontend start automatically without doing it in the MCC | 02:45 |
| kaeles | cause my MCC is not working correctly | 02:45 |
| superm1 | kaeles, what's wrong with mcc's way of doing it? | 02:47 |
| superm1 | what's happening? | 02:47 |
| superm1 | it's some pretty straightforward logic.... | 02:47 |
| hads | It would do a 'cp /usr/share/applications/mythtv.desktop .config/autostart/' or something? | 02:47 |
| superm1 | it's just a symlink actually | 02:48 |
| superm1 | but yeah that would achieve it too | 02:48 |
| hads | That's what I was going to say but then I looked in mine and it was a file. I must have done that myself. | 02:48 |
| tmkt | odd problem with mythlcdserver - recordings/time show up on the lcd | 02:52 |
| tmkt | but menu options - and current show when watching live tv, or videos..don't | 02:52 |
| ourtv | i still can't figure out how to get boxee on the mythtv menu in 9.10! i'm a dorg | 03:00 |
| superm1 | the syntax for editing the menus changed from 9.04 to 9.10 i thinks | 03:03 |
| Seventoes | nobody's checked out bug #452779 yet? :-/ anyone know what could be wrong? i'd really like to get 9.10 working | 03:09 |
| Zinn | Bug 452779 in mythtv (Ubuntu) "Scanning for channels hangs on channel 1 with PVR-150" [Undecided, New] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/452779 | 03:09 |
| foxbuntu | Seventoes, Im gonna guess channel 1 is VOD service with your cable provider, the cable box does not respond to normal channel changer commands after it goes to VOD, thus the hang | 03:11 |
| foxbuntu | Seventoes, don't scan channel 1 | 03:11 |
| foxbuntu | Seventoes, start at channel 2 | 03:12 |
| Seventoes | does 0.21 handle that differently? cause it works fine in my current install | 03:13 |
| foxbuntu | Seventoes, it really depends on your channel changer, cable box, tuner, ect | 03:14 |
| foxbuntu | Seventoes, just set our guide to start at channel 2 | 03:14 |
| foxbuntu | your* | 03:14 |
| foxbuntu | Seventoes, why are you scanning on us-cable-hrc | 03:15 |
| Seventoes | doesnt the 'start at channel' thing only let me pick channels that have been scanned already? | 03:16 |
| Seventoes | ill set up 9.10dev on another partition and give it a shot | 03:16 |
| Seventoes | because us-cable-hrc is what works for me? | 03:16 |
| Seventoes | thats what my current setup is using | 03:16 |
| foxbuntu | Seventoes, I mean setup your data source to start at channel 2, this way channel 1 doesnt even show up | 03:18 |
| foxbuntu | then the tuner wont get stuck on it | 03:18 |
| Seventoes | k i'll try it, thanks :) | 03:23 |
| Seventoes | foxbuntu`: how do i do that? :-/ | 04:23 |
| OpenMedia | Any one tried to upgrade a 0.20 database to 0.22 under Mythbuntu? | 05:26 |
| OpenMedia | Had some odd issues with the backend trying to upgrade the schema. | 05:26 |
| mrand | Howdy OpenMedia, if you are sure that you didn't make any manual changes, the mythtv-devs would probably like to hear about your problem - well, assuming it isn't one that is already fixed. | 05:30 |
| mrand | For example, here is a change that went in today: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/22550 | 05:32 |
| ToeBee | boo! I need faster USB. It is going to take me over 2 hours to dd my drive to the 1TB drive in my external enclosure | 05:42 |
| ToeBee | oh well guess I need to go to bed anyway | 05:42 |
| mrand | Sure you're on a USB 2.0 port? | 05:42 |
| ToeBee | USB 2 only does 60 MB/sec | 05:44 |
| ToeBee | well optimal... I'm guessing you get less in practice | 05:44 |
| mrand | Yeah, it'll still take a long while. No denying that! | 05:44 |
| ToeBee | 320 GB drive | 05:44 |
| ToeBee | hmm wait... if I ran it through gzip... | 05:45 |
| ToeBee | empty drive space will compress *extremely* well :) | 05:45 |
| mrand | Yeah, nearly any compression scheme should be able to handle that easily. | 05:46 |
| SpicyLemon | On the MythTV frontend, is there a way to change the length of time that commercial notification stays on the screen? | 05:48 |
| ToeBee | hmm I thought gzip was fast. Seems to be CPU bound at 12 MB/sec now | 05:49 |
| ToeBee | SpicyLemon: I believe so... don't remember where off the top of my head though | 05:49 |
| SpicyLemon | I found where I can change the number seconds prior to the commercial break it shows up, but I can't figure out how to make it stay up longer. | 05:51 |
| ToeBee | ah that's probably what I was thinking of | 05:51 |
| SpicyLemon | I'm hoping that it's just editing some config file somewhere, but I'm not sure where to start looking. | 05:51 |
| Seventoes | installed 9.10 and have all the updates, i'm not getting any sound :( | 05:53 |
| ToeBee | man... sound seems to be a major issue in 9.10 | 05:56 |
| hads | I haven't had any issues here, apart from my old frontend was muting on boot but that wasn't hard to solve. | 05:56 |
| Seventoes | looking at ubuntu forums it seems ivtv has 'mute' set to 1 by default.. gotta install ivtv-tools and set it to 0.. trying that now | 05:56 |
| ToeBee | I had no sound for a while. Now it is working but still affected by bug 382140 | 05:59 |
| Zinn | Bug 382140 in linux (Ubuntu) "karmic: high-pitched noise from snd-hda-intel" [Undecided, Confirmed] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/382140 | 05:59 |
| Seventoes | eww | 06:00 |
| ToeBee | well it only happens when no sound is playing and only if power saving is enabled | 06:01 |
| * ToeBee wonders how much power the sound card actually takes | 06:02 | |
| Seventoes | how can i test if my sound is working without starting up mythfrontend? | 06:02 |
| ToeBee | find a .wav file and use aplay in a terminal | 06:02 |
| Seventoes | k | 06:02 |
| SpicyLemon | look for /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav | 06:04 |
| SpicyLemon | that's the one I usually use for testing. | 06:04 |
| ToeBee | yeah that works | 06:05 |
| Seventoes | thanks.. it's definitely not working :( | 06:05 |
| ToeBee | copy it to your homedir for quicker access if you're testing a lot :) | 06:05 |
| Seventoes | once it's working i'll be peachy :P | 06:06 |
| Seventoes | ivtv's 'mute' is set to 0 so that's not the problem :-/ | 06:06 |
| ToeBee | all the mixer channels up? for stereo sound the end volume may be affected by master, pcm and front channels | 06:06 |
| ToeBee | the "front" channel had me confused for a while | 06:07 |
| Seventoes | that was it! thanks :D | 06:09 |
| Seventoes | yay! I's happy now | 06:10 |
| SpicyLemon | does anyone know where settings are actually saved for the myth front end? | 06:10 |
| Seventoes | tomorrow i get the equipment i need to finally hook this thing up to my TV instead of a monitor next to the tv :D | 06:10 |
| Seventoes | gnight... thanks ToeBee | 06:11 |
| ToeBee | oh hey I fixed something! | 06:12 |
| ToeBee | SpicyLemon: I believe in the mysql database | 06:12 |
| SpicyLemon | a bummer, I was hoping it was a flat-file. | 06:13 |
| ToeBee | the menus and themes are but I think the actual settings are in the db | 06:18 |
| ToeBee | this is a good page to have handy when searching for settings: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Detailed_configuration_Frontend | 06:19 |
| SpicyLemon | yeah, I found that earlier, it doesn't mention the thing I want to change. | 06:19 |
| ToeBee | so wait... if you tell the ad notification to pop up a minute before the ad break, it will still only stay on the screen for a few seconds? | 06:20 |
| SpicyLemon | yup | 06:20 |
| ToeBee | hmm at first thought that actually seems kind of broken to me | 06:21 |
| ToeBee | I would think you would want the default to be "stay on the screen until the ad break starts" | 06:21 |
| SpicyLemon | yeah, that's what i thought too. | 06:22 |
| SpicyLemon | I'm hoping that it's not just some hard coded value somewhere. I have a bad feeling it is though. | 06:22 |
| SpicyLemon | any thought as to the default backed db password? | 06:25 |
| ToeBee | I think it is randomly generated. But it is stored in a conf file | 06:26 |
| ToeBee | I think in ~/.mythtv/ somewhere. My mythbox is down at the moment for a drive backup so I can't look at the moment | 06:26 |
| SpicyLemon | ahh, found it. Thanks! | 06:27 |
| SpicyLemon | .mythtv/config.xml | 06:27 |
| SpicyLemon | hmmm... maybe I'll find something in here that will have it not show certain movies in my media library too. | 06:29 |
| ToeBee | I think there is a setting for that | 06:30 |
| SpicyLemon | there is, but it doesn't seem to work. | 06:31 |
| ToeBee | hmm that wiki page has nothing about the video manager settings | 06:31 |
| ToeBee | oh? I thought I had it working | 06:31 |
| SpicyLemon | I think the video manager is technically just a plugin. | 06:31 |
| mrand | Parting note as I walk away off to bed: there used to be a setting in the same screen as the metadata stuff which made a video invisible. And then of course, you have the PIN/parental control levels. | 06:34 |
| ToeBee | I remember it in the filetype config | 06:34 |
| ToeBee | you could tell it to ignore certain file extensions | 06:35 |
| ToeBee | SpicyLemon: hmm I wonder if it is just being treated as a normal OSD and using that fade time | 06:35 |
| SpicyLemon | eh, they're all avi. It's just that some of the movies have two avis, a part 1 and part 2. I've turned "Browsable" off for the part 2s, but they still show up. | 06:36 |
| SpicyLemon | ToeBee: You may be on to something. let me change that and see. | 06:36 |
| ToeBee | ah. I usually just wanted to hide things like .sfv and .rar files | 06:37 |
| SpicyLemon | bah... that didn't seem to do it. It put it up, then it dropped virtically off the screen rather than faded. | 06:38 |
| ToeBee | err... ok that seems odd | 06:39 |
| SpicyLemon | nm... looks like it was the normal fade effect. Let me change it, then restart the frontend. | 06:41 |
| SpicyLemon | It doesn't look like the commercial notification uses the Playback OSD time-out settings. | 06:54 |
| SpicyLemon | also, I just noticed that it's not showing me how long the commercial break is any more. eh... I think I'll poke at it tomorrow. | 06:54 |
| ToeBee | heh | 06:56 |
| ToeBee | I should go to bed as well | 06:56 |
| SpicyLemon | ahh, looks like that last bit had to do with the theme. I changed themes and it's showing, it's just not staying up very long, heh. | 06:56 |
| SpicyLemon | have a good one! thanks for the help. | 06:59 |
| merkur2k | hey theres people here :) | 07:05 |
| merkur2k | i am experimenting with the 9.10 beta, but i notice there are no mythbuntu entries in sources.list | 07:06 |
| merkur2k | what are they? :) | 07:06 |
| merkur2k | i added the missing medibuntu entries already | 07:06 |
| hads | merkur2k: Why do you need mythbuntu entries? | 07:15 |
| merkur2k | tried to install plugins and it complained about apt | 07:15 |
| hads | Sense make not | 07:16 |
| hads | Everything you need is in the standard repositories, unless you want daily/weekly builds etc. | 07:16 |
| merkur2k | well i checked off a couple plugins that arent there by default and it complained about apt, so something is wrong | 07:17 |
| merkur2k | i got the same error when trying to install w32codecs and libdvdcss2 until i added medibunt repos | 07:17 |
| merkur2k | so i assumed its still missing a repo | 07:18 |
| hads | Without the actual error no one will be able to help, 'complained about apt' doesn't really mean anything. | 07:18 |
| merkur2k | ill get the exact error again once im done scanning channels | 07:20 |
| merkur2k | does it log anything during that process? | 07:21 |
| merkur2k | looks like disabling password protect on mythweb doesnt quite work. apache is still configured to require a password, but there is no digest file | 07:31 |
| merkur2k | "could not mark all packages. check your repository lists for universe, multiverse, and main. perform a packagelist update as well." | 07:34 |
| merkur2k | after running mythtv-setup and adding my tuners and then letting it run mythfilldatabase, frontend and backend give the error: "This application is not compatible with the installed MythTV libraries. Please recompile after a make distclean" | 07:42 |
| merkur2k | 2009-10-20 23:40:55.793 Application binary version (0.22.20090928-1) does not match libraries (0.22.20091008-1) | 07:43 |
| hads | Sounds like a broken mirror | 08:04 |
| Mysterious | join the www.worldcommunitygrid.org and help conquer cancer | 12:51 |
| MrEgg964 | Hi all :) I've updated my ./lirc/mplayer file, so as to add a couple of new commands. Now if I sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart, LIRC gets restarted, but the remote control no longer works. If I reboot, everything goes back to normal, with my new commands. Any idea how to restart lirc without having to reboot the pc? TIA | 13:05 |
| MrEgg964 | Correction : the remote actually reacts properly, its mythfrontend that doesn't. Restarting mythfrontend takes care of the problem. | 13:16 |
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| olejl | Is there any available dbg packages for mythtv on mythbuntu 9.10? | 20:25 |
| olejl | I am struggling with a segfault which I would like to get a backtrace of... | 20:26 |
| mrand | yes, please hold! | 20:32 |
| mrand | 1. if you have something in /var/crash, install the appropriate ddebs from http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/multiverse/m/mythtv/ (hint: you might need libmyth-0.22-0, among other more obvious ones) | 20:34 |
| mrand | 2. while doing that, install apport-retrace | 20:34 |
| mrand | 3. and then run "sudo apport-retrace -s /var/crash/CRASHFILE" perhaps use -sv if you are on a slow connection. -p <package> (like -p mythvideo) may provide even more info. | 20:36 |
| mrand | 4. attach to a ticket | 20:36 |
| mrand | I'm relaying these instructions... I haven't had a chance to try it myself, but someone else did and it seemed to work. | 20:37 |
| mrand | Obvious step 3 is after installing ddebs in step #1 as well as #2. | 20:37 |
| hads | Also, mythplugins is ../ from that URL | 20:39 |
| mrand | Thanks hads | 20:40 |
| tgm4883 | Looking for 9.10 RC amd64 testers | 22:36 |
| tgm4883 | you can grab the potential RC at | 22:36 |
| tgm4883 | !dail% | 22:36 |
| Zinn | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/daily-live/current/ | 22:36 |
| tgm4883 | and follow the tests here | 22:36 |
| tgm4883 | !QA | 22:36 |
| Zinn | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/mythbuntu/all | 22:36 |
| CyberKnet | later folks | 23:04 |
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