[00:48] Can someone tell me, are the dialy builds actually weekly builds or are they daily? I installed the latest and seeking is broken... it was fixed upstream but there are no new daily builds in the last 28 hours. [00:50] jfry_: I think they're rebuild once per day, if the SVN rev number has changed [00:51] That [00:51] I don't know what time the cron job kicks off at though. [00:51] oops... that's what I thought too... but it has been 28 hours, and most automated processes don't use fuzzy logic like that. [00:53] yes, but it's the time since the last SVN change, not the last package building, that is important [00:53] jfry_, they are not weekly [00:53] Well... actually it's been 28 hours since the current daily build revision was complete... there was another change posted within an hour afterward... so I know the current daily build pulled its source 28 hours ago... not sure when the package became available... but 4 hours seems a little long. [00:55] I'm just anxious... the spousal unit was frustrated today and I promised to fix it tonight. [00:55] jfry_, the build take awhile to run because they get queued in LP [00:56] ahh... so it could really take a few hours then... OK... I'll be patient, so long as they are available from the PPA repo tonight. [00:57] jfry_, unless something happens with the build it should be there [00:57] Thanks foxbuntu, good to have someone in the know. [00:57] jfry_, np [00:57] foxbuntu, only minor changes to the SVN... so I can't imagine the build failing. [01:00] jfry_, indeed [01:00] ok, weird question, I got 9.10 working mostly now, but it will not scan the videos directory, i have it mounted via nfs, and it shows the files there, so its mounted correctly, but mythfrontend is not showing any files existing in the directory, any clue? [01:01] kaeles: I found it easier to move to storage groups [01:01] how does that work in the frontend? [01:02] should it just autodetect them? [01:02] it's all backend magic. [01:02] basically, you setup the storage groups (if you installed from scratch they're already defined for you) [01:02] ok [01:02] they're configured on the backend. on the frontend, DON'T mount the nfs volumes. [01:03] if the frontend thinks it can find them locally, it will. [01:03] ok, ill try that, i have the backend mounted via nfs as well [01:03] all my media is on a seperate nas [01:03] cause my backend is running on my vmware machine [01:04] and it doesn't have any disks since I have 2 of them, they mount all thier drives via ataoe from my nas [01:04] aha, so I'm not the only crazy guy running a virtualized backend [01:04] :) [01:04] i swear, mythtv is the goofiest thing sometimes [01:04] I went with Xen though [01:04] ah, yea, i looked at xen, but I've used vmware before, and im lazy [01:04] :P [01:05] I tried vmware, but found the performance wasn't satisfactory [01:05] ok i'll just try the storage groups then [01:05] even in Xen, when using HVM it isn't quite good enough [01:05] well, i've got a quad core with 8gb ram, so its not too bad :P [01:06] same here [01:06] it was IO [01:06] Xen with PV backend seems to work *really* well [01:07] What about tuners? [01:07] oh i dont have any tuners [01:07] so its different for me [01:07] So what's the point of using myth? [01:07] HDHR works great :) [01:07] i thought about moving to boxee for all this, but I've used mythtv for while [01:07] and it actually works on older hardware [01:08] I also have PCI-passthrough working, so if I got a PVR150 or something, I could pass it through to the guest [01:08] plus it has builtin stuff for diskless booting [01:08] I quite like moovida for just media [01:08] i may look into it [01:09] It's currently missing digital audio and VDPAU but apart from that it's nice. [01:09] i use neither, so no biggie [01:09] I use it in a couple of rooms for mostly music and the odd video, the interface is a lot nicer than myth for music (that's not too hard though) [01:10] Doesn't work with myth's upnp server unfortunately, myth and coherence don't like each other for some reason. [01:11] But all my media is NFSable anyway. [01:11] yea, the frontend is still not finding the video files even using the storage groups [01:14] i know the video manager is deprecated now, but i still am getting no files found when i goto the view videos thing :| [01:19] nevermind [01:19] i am just retarded [01:19] :D [01:19] mersault: thanks for that, it will make adding the other frontends supa easy [01:29] kaeles: glad to hear it worked for you. [01:41] only thing not working as far as i can tell now is its not pulling the pictures with the metadata [01:41] but compared to .21 its amazing :P [01:42] Check the log [01:43] yea, i hadn't got that far yet, i think it may have something to do with my storage groups [01:46] The frontend log will show it downloading images etc. [01:46] The backend log will show it saving the images to the SG [01:46] the storage group directories did not exist for those, so it wasnt downloading them [01:46] its working now [01:46] thanks though :) [01:47] I thought it saved them to the videos storage group if they didn't exist. Oh well. [01:47] 9.10 is so shiney D: [01:47] yea, the wiki says it does, but it wasnt pulling them for some reason [01:50] oh actually, the MCC doesnt work to install anything now that I thought about it, i had to install all the themes and lirc stuff via cli [01:50] it acts like its installing it, but i left it from 8 am trying to install lirc till i got home at 530 [01:50] and it didnt do anything [01:50] what does MCC itself have logs I could peer into to see whats going on, or is that gonna be an apt/aptitiude thign? [01:52] I seem to recall there's a MCC_DEBUG_SOMETHING variable or some such. [01:52] But I don't really use it myself. [01:53] righto [01:53] i'll see what i can see, thanks for the help [02:04] hi. anybody using the wiimote as the remote for thier mythbuntu ? [02:11] hello all [02:11] D= I have a problem [02:12] Whenever I boot the mythbuntu disc, I choose english for language and from that point, no matter if I pick live cd or install options, I get an error before anything else [02:13] [ 0.452010] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! [02:15] Hi. I bought an harmony 610. What can I use as IR reiceiver? where can I find documentation? === pache is now known as la_poisse [02:23] a wiimote [02:23] what is a harmony 610 [02:23] nm [02:24] a logitech harmony = universal remote control [02:27] la_poisse, the common receiver is the Windows MCE hardware, I know it to work with the Harmony remotes [02:30] nice [02:30] can I buy it alone you think? [02:32] la_poisse, usually not, they come in remote/receiver packs [02:32] la_poisse, you should be able to pick one up for ~30USD online though [02:33] is there a way to "redo" my mythconverg database? [02:34] kaeles, what do you mean "redo" [02:34] just delete and restore the schema [02:35] there is some metadata stuff that is broke im pretty sure, because going into the view videos on the frontend locks it up, i was adding metadata when it started happening [02:35] kaeles, restore data or back to the defaults, as in its be modified [02:35] back to defaults [02:35] i dont want to restore data [02:35] just delete it all and start from scratch [02:35] kaeles, so you plan on losing all your DB info correct? [02:36] ok [02:36] yes [02:36] i just installed like a few hours ago, so its not a big deal if the db info is gone, i just jacked someting up :P [02:36] ok [02:37] kaeles, sudo apt-get remove --purge mythtv-database [02:38] mmm [02:38] its wanting to remove the mythtv-backend-master pkg as well [02:38] thats fine [02:38] you will just reinstall them both [02:38] ok i was just a little worried :P [02:44] awesome works again [02:45] one last question, is there a way to make mythfrontend start automatically without doing it in the MCC [02:45] cause my MCC is not working correctly [02:47] kaeles, what's wrong with mcc's way of doing it? [02:47] what's happening? [02:47] it's some pretty straightforward logic.... [02:47] It would do a 'cp /usr/share/applications/mythtv.desktop .config/autostart/' or something? [02:48] it's just a symlink actually [02:48] but yeah that would achieve it too [02:48] That's what I was going to say but then I looked in mine and it was a file. I must have done that myself. [02:52] odd problem with mythlcdserver - recordings/time show up on the lcd [02:52] but menu options - and current show when watching live tv, or videos..don't [03:00] i still can't figure out how to get boxee on the mythtv menu in 9.10! i'm a dorg [03:03] the syntax for editing the menus changed from 9.04 to 9.10 i thinks [03:09] nobody's checked out bug #452779 yet? :-/ anyone know what could be wrong? i'd really like to get 9.10 working [03:09] Bug 452779 in mythtv (Ubuntu) "Scanning for channels hangs on channel 1 with PVR-150" [Undecided, New] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/452779 [03:11] Seventoes, Im gonna guess channel 1 is VOD service with your cable provider, the cable box does not respond to normal channel changer commands after it goes to VOD, thus the hang [03:11] Seventoes, don't scan channel 1 [03:12] Seventoes, start at channel 2 [03:13] does 0.21 handle that differently? cause it works fine in my current install [03:14] Seventoes, it really depends on your channel changer, cable box, tuner, ect [03:14] Seventoes, just set our guide to start at channel 2 [03:14] your* [03:15] Seventoes, why are you scanning on us-cable-hrc [03:16] doesnt the 'start at channel' thing only let me pick channels that have been scanned already? [03:16] ill set up 9.10dev on another partition and give it a shot [03:16] because us-cable-hrc is what works for me? [03:16] thats what my current setup is using [03:18] Seventoes, I mean setup your data source to start at channel 2, this way channel 1 doesnt even show up [03:18] then the tuner wont get stuck on it [03:23] k i'll try it, thanks :) [04:23] foxbuntu`: how do i do that? :-/ [05:26] Any one tried to upgrade a 0.20 database to 0.22 under Mythbuntu? [05:26] Had some odd issues with the backend trying to upgrade the schema. [05:30] Howdy OpenMedia, if you are sure that you didn't make any manual changes, the mythtv-devs would probably like to hear about your problem - well, assuming it isn't one that is already fixed. [05:32] For example, here is a change that went in today: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/22550 [05:42] boo! I need faster USB. It is going to take me over 2 hours to dd my drive to the 1TB drive in my external enclosure [05:42] oh well guess I need to go to bed anyway [05:42] Sure you're on a USB 2.0 port? [05:44] USB 2 only does 60 MB/sec [05:44] well optimal... I'm guessing you get less in practice [05:44] Yeah, it'll still take a long while. No denying that! [05:44] 320 GB drive [05:45] hmm wait... if I ran it through gzip... [05:45] empty drive space will compress *extremely* well :) [05:46] Yeah, nearly any compression scheme should be able to handle that easily. [05:48] On the MythTV frontend, is there a way to change the length of time that commercial notification stays on the screen? [05:49] hmm I thought gzip was fast. Seems to be CPU bound at 12 MB/sec now [05:49] SpicyLemon: I believe so... don't remember where off the top of my head though [05:51] I found where I can change the number seconds prior to the commercial break it shows up, but I can't figure out how to make it stay up longer. [05:51] ah that's probably what I was thinking of [05:51] I'm hoping that it's just editing some config file somewhere, but I'm not sure where to start looking. [05:53] installed 9.10 and have all the updates, i'm not getting any sound :( [05:56] man... sound seems to be a major issue in 9.10 [05:56] I haven't had any issues here, apart from my old frontend was muting on boot but that wasn't hard to solve. [05:56] looking at ubuntu forums it seems ivtv has 'mute' set to 1 by default.. gotta install ivtv-tools and set it to 0.. trying that now [05:59] I had no sound for a while. Now it is working but still affected by bug 382140 [05:59] Bug 382140 in linux (Ubuntu) "karmic: high-pitched noise from snd-hda-intel" [Undecided, Confirmed] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/382140 [06:00] eww [06:01] well it only happens when no sound is playing and only if power saving is enabled [06:02] * ToeBee wonders how much power the sound card actually takes [06:02] how can i test if my sound is working without starting up mythfrontend? [06:02] find a .wav file and use aplay in a terminal [06:02] k [06:04] look for /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav [06:04] that's the one I usually use for testing. [06:05] yeah that works [06:05] thanks.. it's definitely not working :( [06:05] copy it to your homedir for quicker access if you're testing a lot :) [06:06] once it's working i'll be peachy :P [06:06] ivtv's 'mute' is set to 0 so that's not the problem :-/ [06:06] all the mixer channels up? for stereo sound the end volume may be affected by master, pcm and front channels [06:07] the "front" channel had me confused for a while [06:09] that was it! thanks :D [06:10] yay! I's happy now [06:10] does anyone know where settings are actually saved for the myth front end? [06:10] tomorrow i get the equipment i need to finally hook this thing up to my TV instead of a monitor next to the tv :D [06:11] gnight... thanks ToeBee [06:12] oh hey I fixed something! [06:12] SpicyLemon: I believe in the mysql database [06:13] a bummer, I was hoping it was a flat-file. [06:18] the menus and themes are but I think the actual settings are in the db [06:19] this is a good page to have handy when searching for settings: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Detailed_configuration_Frontend [06:19] yeah, I found that earlier, it doesn't mention the thing I want to change. [06:20] so wait... if you tell the ad notification to pop up a minute before the ad break, it will still only stay on the screen for a few seconds? [06:20] yup [06:21] hmm at first thought that actually seems kind of broken to me [06:21] I would think you would want the default to be "stay on the screen until the ad break starts" [06:22] yeah, that's what i thought too. [06:22] I'm hoping that it's not just some hard coded value somewhere. I have a bad feeling it is though. [06:25] any thought as to the default backed db password? [06:26] I think it is randomly generated. But it is stored in a conf file [06:26] I think in ~/.mythtv/ somewhere. My mythbox is down at the moment for a drive backup so I can't look at the moment [06:27] ahh, found it. Thanks! [06:27] .mythtv/config.xml [06:29] hmmm... maybe I'll find something in here that will have it not show certain movies in my media library too. [06:30] I think there is a setting for that [06:31] there is, but it doesn't seem to work. [06:31] hmm that wiki page has nothing about the video manager settings [06:31] oh? I thought I had it working [06:31] I think the video manager is technically just a plugin. [06:34] Parting note as I walk away off to bed: there used to be a setting in the same screen as the metadata stuff which made a video invisible. And then of course, you have the PIN/parental control levels. [06:34] I remember it in the filetype config [06:35] you could tell it to ignore certain file extensions [06:35] SpicyLemon: hmm I wonder if it is just being treated as a normal OSD and using that fade time [06:36] eh, they're all avi. It's just that some of the movies have two avis, a part 1 and part 2. I've turned "Browsable" off for the part 2s, but they still show up. [06:36] ToeBee: You may be on to something. let me change that and see. [06:37] ah. I usually just wanted to hide things like .sfv and .rar files [06:38] bah... that didn't seem to do it. It put it up, then it dropped virtically off the screen rather than faded. [06:39] err... ok that seems odd [06:41] nm... looks like it was the normal fade effect. Let me change it, then restart the frontend. [06:54] It doesn't look like the commercial notification uses the Playback OSD time-out settings. [06:54] also, I just noticed that it's not showing me how long the commercial break is any more. eh... I think I'll poke at it tomorrow. [06:56] heh [06:56] I should go to bed as well [06:56] ahh, looks like that last bit had to do with the theme. I changed themes and it's showing, it's just not staying up very long, heh. [06:59] have a good one! thanks for the help. [07:05] hey theres people here :) [07:06] i am experimenting with the 9.10 beta, but i notice there are no mythbuntu entries in sources.list [07:06] what are they? :) [07:06] i added the missing medibuntu entries already [07:15] merkur2k: Why do you need mythbuntu entries? [07:15] tried to install plugins and it complained about apt [07:16] Sense make not [07:16] Everything you need is in the standard repositories, unless you want daily/weekly builds etc. [07:17] well i checked off a couple plugins that arent there by default and it complained about apt, so something is wrong [07:17] i got the same error when trying to install w32codecs and libdvdcss2 until i added medibunt repos [07:18] so i assumed its still missing a repo [07:18] Without the actual error no one will be able to help, 'complained about apt' doesn't really mean anything. [07:20] ill get the exact error again once im done scanning channels [07:21] does it log anything during that process? [07:31] looks like disabling password protect on mythweb doesnt quite work. apache is still configured to require a password, but there is no digest file [07:34] "could not mark all packages. check your repository lists for universe, multiverse, and main. perform a packagelist update as well." [07:42] after running mythtv-setup and adding my tuners and then letting it run mythfilldatabase, frontend and backend give the error: "This application is not compatible with the installed MythTV libraries. Please recompile after a make distclean" [07:43] 2009-10-20 23:40:55.793 Application binary version (0.22.20090928-1) does not match libraries (0.22.20091008-1) [08:04] Sounds like a broken mirror [12:51] join the www.worldcommunitygrid.org and help conquer cancer [13:05] Hi all :) I've updated my ./lirc/mplayer file, so as to add a couple of new commands. Now if I sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart, LIRC gets restarted, but the remote control no longer works. If I reboot, everything goes back to normal, with my new commands. Any idea how to restart lirc without having to reboot the pc? TIA [13:16] Correction : the remote actually reacts properly, its mythfrontend that doesn't. Restarting mythfrontend takes care of the problem. === Shadow__1 is now known as Shadow__X [20:25] Is there any available dbg packages for mythtv on mythbuntu 9.10? [20:26] I am struggling with a segfault which I would like to get a backtrace of... [20:32] yes, please hold! [20:34] 1. if you have something in /var/crash, install the appropriate ddebs from http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/multiverse/m/mythtv/ (hint: you might need libmyth-0.22-0, among other more obvious ones) [20:34] 2. while doing that, install apport-retrace [20:36] 3. and then run "sudo apport-retrace -s /var/crash/CRASHFILE" perhaps use -sv if you are on a slow connection. -p (like -p mythvideo) may provide even more info. [20:36] 4. attach to a ticket [20:37] I'm relaying these instructions... I haven't had a chance to try it myself, but someone else did and it seemed to work. [20:37] Obvious step 3 is after installing ddebs in step #1 as well as #2. [20:39] Also, mythplugins is ../ from that URL [20:40] Thanks hads [22:36] Looking for 9.10 RC amd64 testers [22:36] you can grab the potential RC at [22:36] !dail% [22:36] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/mythbuntu/daily-live/current/ [22:36] and follow the tests here [22:36] !QA [22:36] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/mythbuntu/all [23:04] later folks