| ryanakca | ... many canadian cities have forts... Kingston (several, Henry, Frontnac, Frederick, etc.), Quebec, Halifax, Montreal, etc., huge ditches, deep limestone walls, towers and all the trimmings | 00:29 |
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| ubottu | sebsebseb called the ops in #ubuntu (zaboo) | 02:27 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 04:10 |
| ubottu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 04:10 |
| ubottu | FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 04:10 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, Magnesium said: What is 2+2? | 05:32 |
| MenZa | Morning jussi01 :) | 09:20 |
| ubottu | znh called the ops in #ubuntu () | 10:05 |
| vox | sigh | 10:08 |
| MenZa | vox: such children these days. :( | 10:14 |
| * MenZa goes for breakfast. | 10:14 | |
| vox | i asked nicely | 10:14 |
| vox | but no | 10:14 |
| * vox shrug | 10:14 | |
| jussi01 | vox: have you checked your bans in #ubuntu to make sure any old/stale ones are removed? | 10:15 |
| vox | i.. dont think i've banned anyone | 10:15 |
| vox | oh wait, i did a couple of days ago | 10:16 |
| vox | my first #ubuntu ban | 10:16 |
| vox | oh how my heart fluttered | 10:16 |
| bazhang | hehe | 10:16 |
| gord | thats not because of the ban, ubuntu op stress is just getting to your major organs | 10:17 |
| vox | that's.. a big banlist | 10:19 |
| jussi01 | vox: hence we want you to keep your bans clean | 10:19 |
| vox | nod | 10:20 |
| * MenZa , again, mentions how freenode needs a Super-Duper-HIGHLY-extended banlist. | 10:24 | |
| * tonyyarusso guesses there are bans in there from people who aren't even opping anymore | 10:24 | |
| vox | what's the stance on multiple clients from the same source address? | 10:24 |
| jussi01 | MenZa: nope, it just needs people to take care of bans... | 10:24 |
| tonyyarusso | I'd disagree MenZa - bigger banlists just let us be lazier. | 10:24 |
| jussi01 | vox: allowed, but not too many... | 10:24 |
| MenZa | hmm | 10:24 |
| MenZa | I suppose | 10:24 |
| tonyyarusso | I'll bet 50% of the ones currently standing don't actually need to be there. | 10:24 |
| jussi01 | vox: whats freenodes policy? ;) | 10:25 |
| jpds | MenZa: Again, we do have a super banlist. | 10:25 |
| * MenZa proposes a bantriage! | 10:25 | |
| jpds | MenZa: Freenode only allows 50 bans a channel, with the +L mode, we're allowed 200, I believe. | 10:25 |
| tonyyarusso | We need some peons to do menial labor of comparing every single ban to bantracker notes | 10:25 |
| jussi01 | MenZa: be my guest... if you can rally everyone to actually look at their bans... | 10:25 |
| MenZa | I'd be happy to run though some of them. | 10:25 |
| MenZa | It's no different than doing a five-a-day. | 10:26 |
| jussi01 | tonyyarusso: or we cauld write some software to do it :P | 10:26 |
| tonyyarusso | jussi01: Feel free? (I couldn't) | 10:26 |
| MenZa | It doesn't seem like that much of a chore. | 10:26 |
| vox | jussi01: several | 10:27 |
| jussi01 | tonyyarusso: we are currently testing some stuff that will help people keep track of it better | 10:27 |
| tonyyarusso | nifty | 10:27 |
| jussi01 | tonyyarusso: and also, you realise you can search by operator in the bt? | 10:27 |
| MenZa | on +b, ubottu should prompt user for a ban reason => simple! | 10:27 |
| tonyyarusso | jussi01: Yeah - I usually do that for my own, but I don't think everyone does. | 10:27 |
| jussi01 | tonyyarusso: Honestly, many of the tools exist, but people dont know about them, dont use them or are just lazy | 10:28 |
| tonyyarusso | jussi01: see above comment that I think some people may have bans who aren't even active, or cases like vox where someone random may place and ban and completely forget about it. | 10:28 |
| jussi01 | tonyyarusso: Ive checked - there are only a few like that - at least in #ubuntu | 10:29 |
| tonyyarusso | jussi01: agreed, but pinpointing that some people aren't taking care of their own doesn't make our massive banlist shorter - only actions do. | 10:29 |
| tonyyarusso | jussi01: Good to know. | 10:29 |
| jussi01 | tonyyarusso: this is mostla a caser of people just not doing it. Now as I said, we are working on tools to make this easier - if you have time and coding ability we would love to have you contribute. | 10:32 |
| Flannel | jussi01: I do! | 10:32 |
| * Flannel has been meaning to get around to mentioning that since that email... | 10:33 | |
| jussi01 | Flannel: excellent! also, I notice you had a few bans the other day... have you cleaned up? | 10:33 |
| Flannel | I don't have any recent bans I don't think, but I'll be sure to take a look | 10:33 |
| bazhang | I've got two quiets, one of which I was advised to leave longer term; sniper_jesus ' one | 10:34 |
| Flannel | Wow, spaceghost is quite rude. | 10:35 |
| jussi01 | Flannel: and anyone else interested, feel free to join #ubuntu-bots-devel | 10:53 |
| bazhang | eyes on hajuu in -ot | 11:59 |
| MenZa | he was in #u earlier as well | 12:14 |
| bazhang | muted now in PM | 12:14 |
| MenZa | muted? | 12:15 |
| bazhang | err quieted? | 12:15 |
| * MenZa tilts head | 12:21 | |
| MenZa | i.e. /ignore -QUERY? :p | 12:21 |
| gord | "muted, now in pm" i guess | 12:23 |
| MenZa | interesting. | 12:24 |
| pleia2 | jpds: will need to restart the ubot, I had to reboot the server this morning (sorry for not warning you) | 12:46 |
| jpds | pleia2: That's fine, hit it. | 13:04 |
| * jpds unconfuses himself. | 13:11 | |
| jpds | pleia2: Should be coming back now. | 13:12 |
| pleia2 | :) | 13:12 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) | 14:02 |
| ubottu | FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) | 14:02 |
| ubottu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) | 14:02 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, dconlon said: Ok no one is helping there. Sorry for polluting this channel | 14:48 |
| MenZa | *sigh* | 15:02 |
| MenZa | hello, Hajuu. | 15:10 |
| Hajuu | Hi | 15:10 |
| bazhang | Hajuu, you were asked repeatedly to remain on topic and yet continued nonetheless | 15:10 |
| Hajuu | I wasnt the only one though. | 15:10 |
| Hajuu | I think you're being a bit short sighted ;) | 15:11 |
| Hajuu | I'm not some kind of.. irc martr | 15:11 |
| bazhang | you have a long history as well | 15:11 |
| Hajuu | Sure, of being banned for answering 'off topic' questions, as randomly deemed. | 15:11 |
| Hajuu | I dont see why in a general ubuntu channel | 15:11 |
| Hajuu | I cant discuss gaming on ubuntu | 15:11 |
| Hajuu | no less when literally probably 5 people were discussing it | 15:11 |
| bazhang | lesbians is not on topic | 15:11 |
| Hajuu | yet I was the only one silenced. | 15:11 |
| Hajuu | I posted that in offtopic ;) | 15:12 |
| Hajuu | also | 15:12 |
| Hajuu | I thought it was a genuine distribution and was having a 'wtf' moment | 15:12 |
| bazhang | you fooled with the bot in #ubuntu doing that | 15:12 |
| Hajuu | How's that? | 15:12 |
| Hajuu | Meh it really doesn't seem important anyway. You claim it was offtopic, I claim it was not. To me in either case, a few hours silenced is sufficient. | 15:13 |
| Hajuu | I can either help, or not. | 15:13 |
| MenZa | Hajuu: You're not in a position to put forth ultimatums. | 15:13 |
| Hajuu | Doesn't seem worthy of spending time discussing however. | 15:13 |
| MenZa | Noone's forcing you to stay. | 15:14 |
| Hajuu | *shrug* it makes no difference to me, like I say I wanted to be unsilenced from #ubuntu so I could help someone. | 15:14 |
| Hajuu | I'm not trying to be like that heh | 15:14 |
| bazhang | Hajuu, you are not interested in re-joining the channel (ie being unmuted)? | 15:14 |
| Hajuu | But surely over a disagreement of content matter, isn't worth me spending time actively trying to be unsilenced after hours. To me, the few hours silence is punishment enough. | 15:15 |
| Hajuu | I wasn't spamming or being a neusance | 15:15 |
| Hajuu | I was trying to assist someone. | 15:15 |
| MenZa | Hajuu: #ubuntu doesn't operate with a karma system. It's not like you help someone, and then you're allowed to break a rule or two. | 15:16 |
| Hajuu | Whether gaming in ubuntu is offtopic or not is the issue, and whether that warrents an ongoing silence or a few hours. That's your decision. | 15:16 |
| MenZa | Hajuu: You abide by the rules, or you don't. | 15:16 |
| Hajuu | *shrug* like I say, its a difference of opinion in my view. | 15:17 |
| Hajuu | I wasnt 'breaking the rules' I was discussing an ubuntu-related activity | 15:17 |
| MenZa | You're not in a position to argue your opinion. | 15:17 |
| Hajuu | in a general ubuntu chat room | 15:17 |
| Hajuu | ... | 15:17 |
| MenZa | #ubuntu is not general in any case. | 15:17 |
| Hajuu | Ok. Great. | 15:17 |
| Hajuu | Very diplomatic. | 15:17 |
| MenZa | It's a *support* forum. | 15:17 |
| Hajuu | "We're right. you cant disagree or else!" | 15:17 |
| Hajuu | Thanks. | 15:17 |
| MenZa | Hajuu: The IRC Council, who created these rules, were appointed by the community. The community set these rules. | 15:18 |
| MenZa | I also suggest you read the Code of Conduct and IrcGuidelines before you continue | 15:18 |
| MenZa | !coc | Hajuu | 15:18 |
| ubottu | Hajuu: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ | 15:18 |
| MenZa | !guidelines | Hajuu | 15:18 |
| ubottu | Hajuu: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | 15:18 |
| MenZa | That should help you get started. | 15:18 |
| Hajuu | Id rather not waste any more time, thus why I was propositioning you, as you put it. | 15:18 |
| Hajuu | don't worry, I wont help in there, and im sure you wont care. | 15:18 |
| Hajuu | Good day. | 15:18 |
| MenZa | Some people... | 15:19 |
| ubottu | LjL called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (drones joining, may want to have +r set while they persist, depending on what they're doing) | 17:04 |
| nalioth | they are joining and being klined as they join | 17:05 |
| MenZa | :) | 17:05 |
| mneptok | Hajuu also seems to have been off-topic and decidedly unhelpful in -server, GWIW | 19:03 |
| mneptok | s/G/F/ | 19:03 |
| ikonia | concur | 19:18 |
| * jussi01 bites ikonia | 19:19 | |
| jussi01 | ikonia: pm | 19:19 |
| ikonia | sure sure | 19:19 |
| MenZa | mneptok: Indeed. | 19:30 |
| MenZa | mneptok: That's why I took the hard approach. | 19:30 |
| mneptok | MenZa: oh, did you ban/remove him from -server? | 19:30 |
| MenZa | No | 19:30 |
| MenZa | Just the above log | 19:30 |
| MenZa | mneptok: I have no authority in server. :) | 19:32 |
| MenZa | mneptok: To put it bluntly, I'm expecting him to continue where he left off in -ot, though. | 19:32 |
| ikonia | he's been quiet in server for a while now | 19:32 |
| MenZa | Oh. | 19:32 |
| MenZa | Speak of the devil. | 19:32 |
| MenZa | See -ot. | 19:33 |
| mneptok | no. | 19:34 |
| mneptok | i haven't seen -ot in months, and it's going to stay that way ;) | 19:34 |
| * jussi01 ban forwards mneptok to -ot :P | 19:34 | |
| MenZa | mneptok: The moment I finished writing the above lines, I tabbed to /w 7 | 19:35 |
| MenZa | [2009-10-21 18:31:43 UTC] < Hajuu> you become a lvl 9 asstaco. | 19:35 |
| MenZa | [2009-10-21 18:31:47 UTC] < Hajuu> How does that feel? | 19:35 |
| mneptok | +b | 19:36 |
| MenZa | removed for now. | 19:36 |
| ubottu | ikonia called the ops in #ubuntu-server (Hajuu) | 19:36 |
| ikonia | damn it | 19:36 |
| ikonia | no grunt in -server | 19:36 |
| ikonia | I thought I had that | 19:36 |
| MenZa | There we go, banned | 19:36 |
| mneptok | same here | 19:36 |
| ikonia | help in -server please | 19:37 |
| ikonia | Pici: jussi01 elky Pici | 19:37 |
| mneptok | !ops | Hajuu -server | 19:37 |
| ubottu | Hajuu -server: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia! | 19:37 |
| ubottu | mneptok called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (Hajuu -server) | 19:37 |
| ikonia | I'll check what happened to my rights in -server | 19:37 |
| ikonia | niko: big thanks | 19:38 |
| mneptok | niko: /k please? | 19:39 |
| * MenZa sighs. | 19:40 | |
| ikonia | he's long gone | 19:41 |
| niko | sorry, he floods me a lot | 19:41 |
| niko | on pv | 19:41 |
| niko | do you want me to change the ban ? | 19:44 |
| niko | like Hajuu*!*@* perhaps ? | 19:45 |
| ikonia | you're call | 19:45 |
| ikonia | your | 19:45 |
| mneptok | Pici: ping | 19:55 |
| MenZa | niko: I just have *!*@hostmask in -ot. | 20:15 |
| MenZa | Hajuu*!*@* is just.. bad in some way :\ | 20:16 |
| * MenZa dislikes nickbans - they're the last resort. | 20:16 | |
| mneptok | *!*dfgt@*.dyn.iinet.net.au | 20:25 |
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