[00:29] ... many canadian cities have forts... Kingston (several, Henry, Frontnac, Frederick, etc.), Quebec, Halifax, Montreal, etc., huge ditches, deep limestone walls, towers and all the trimmings [02:27] sebsebseb called the ops in #ubuntu (zaboo) [04:10] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [04:10] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [04:10] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) [05:32] In ubottu, Magnesium said: What is 2+2? [09:20] Morning jussi01 :) [10:05] znh called the ops in #ubuntu () [10:08] sigh [10:14] vox: such children these days. :( [10:14] * MenZa goes for breakfast. [10:14] i asked nicely [10:14] but no [10:14] * vox shrug [10:15] vox: have you checked your bans in #ubuntu to make sure any old/stale ones are removed? [10:15] i.. dont think i've banned anyone [10:16] oh wait, i did a couple of days ago [10:16] my first #ubuntu ban [10:16] oh how my heart fluttered [10:16] hehe [10:17] thats not because of the ban, ubuntu op stress is just getting to your major organs [10:19] that's.. a big banlist [10:19] vox: hence we want you to keep your bans clean [10:20] nod [10:24] * MenZa , again, mentions how freenode needs a Super-Duper-HIGHLY-extended banlist. [10:24] * tonyyarusso guesses there are bans in there from people who aren't even opping anymore [10:24] what's the stance on multiple clients from the same source address? [10:24] MenZa: nope, it just needs people to take care of bans... [10:24] I'd disagree MenZa - bigger banlists just let us be lazier. [10:24] vox: allowed, but not too many... [10:24] hmm [10:24] I suppose [10:24] I'll bet 50% of the ones currently standing don't actually need to be there. [10:25] vox: whats freenodes policy? ;) [10:25] MenZa: Again, we do have a super banlist. [10:25] * MenZa proposes a bantriage! [10:25] MenZa: Freenode only allows 50 bans a channel, with the +L mode, we're allowed 200, I believe. [10:25] We need some peons to do menial labor of comparing every single ban to bantracker notes [10:25] MenZa: be my guest... if you can rally everyone to actually look at their bans... [10:25] I'd be happy to run though some of them. [10:26] It's no different than doing a five-a-day. [10:26] tonyyarusso: or we cauld write some software to do it :P [10:26] jussi01: Feel free? (I couldn't) [10:26] It doesn't seem like that much of a chore. [10:27] jussi01: several [10:27] tonyyarusso: we are currently testing some stuff that will help people keep track of it better [10:27] nifty [10:27] tonyyarusso: and also, you realise you can search by operator in the bt? [10:27] on +b, ubottu should prompt user for a ban reason => simple! [10:27] jussi01: Yeah - I usually do that for my own, but I don't think everyone does. [10:28] tonyyarusso: Honestly, many of the tools exist, but people dont know about them, dont use them or are just lazy [10:28] jussi01: see above comment that I think some people may have bans who aren't even active, or cases like vox where someone random may place and ban and completely forget about it. [10:29] tonyyarusso: Ive checked - there are only a few like that - at least in #ubuntu [10:29] jussi01: agreed, but pinpointing that some people aren't taking care of their own doesn't make our massive banlist shorter - only actions do. [10:29] jussi01: Good to know. [10:32] tonyyarusso: this is mostla a caser of people just not doing it. Now as I said, we are working on tools to make this easier - if you have time and coding ability we would love to have you contribute. [10:32] jussi01: I do! [10:33] * Flannel has been meaning to get around to mentioning that since that email... [10:33] Flannel: excellent! also, I notice you had a few bans the other day... have you cleaned up? [10:33] I don't have any recent bans I don't think, but I'll be sure to take a look [10:34] I've got two quiets, one of which I was advised to leave longer term; sniper_jesus ' one [10:35] Wow, spaceghost is quite rude. [10:53] Flannel: and anyone else interested, feel free to join #ubuntu-bots-devel [11:59] eyes on hajuu in -ot [12:14] he was in #u earlier as well [12:14] muted now in PM [12:15] muted? [12:15] err quieted? [12:21] * MenZa tilts head [12:21] i.e. /ignore -QUERY? :p [12:23] "muted, now in pm" i guess [12:24] interesting. [12:46] jpds: will need to restart the ubot, I had to reboot the server this morning (sorry for not warning you) [13:04] pleia2: That's fine, hit it. [13:11] * jpds unconfuses himself. [13:12] pleia2: Should be coming back now. [13:12] :) [14:02] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [14:02] FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [14:02] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [14:48] In ubottu, dconlon said: Ok no one is helping there. Sorry for polluting this channel [15:02] *sigh* [15:10] hello, Hajuu. [15:10] Hi [15:10] Hajuu, you were asked repeatedly to remain on topic and yet continued nonetheless [15:10] I wasnt the only one though. [15:11] I think you're being a bit short sighted ;) [15:11] I'm not some kind of.. irc martr [15:11] you have a long history as well [15:11] Sure, of being banned for answering 'off topic' questions, as randomly deemed. [15:11] I dont see why in a general ubuntu channel [15:11] I cant discuss gaming on ubuntu [15:11] no less when literally probably 5 people were discussing it [15:11] lesbians is not on topic [15:11] yet I was the only one silenced. [15:12] I posted that in offtopic ;) [15:12] also [15:12] I thought it was a genuine distribution and was having a 'wtf' moment [15:12] you fooled with the bot in #ubuntu doing that [15:12] How's that? [15:13] Meh it really doesn't seem important anyway. You claim it was offtopic, I claim it was not. To me in either case, a few hours silenced is sufficient. [15:13] I can either help, or not. [15:13] Hajuu: You're not in a position to put forth ultimatums. [15:13] Doesn't seem worthy of spending time discussing however. [15:14] Noone's forcing you to stay. [15:14] *shrug* it makes no difference to me, like I say I wanted to be unsilenced from #ubuntu so I could help someone. [15:14] I'm not trying to be like that heh [15:14] Hajuu, you are not interested in re-joining the channel (ie being unmuted)? [15:15] But surely over a disagreement of content matter, isn't worth me spending time actively trying to be unsilenced after hours. To me, the few hours silence is punishment enough. [15:15] I wasn't spamming or being a neusance [15:15] I was trying to assist someone. [15:16] Hajuu: #ubuntu doesn't operate with a karma system. It's not like you help someone, and then you're allowed to break a rule or two. [15:16] Whether gaming in ubuntu is offtopic or not is the issue, and whether that warrents an ongoing silence or a few hours. That's your decision. [15:16] Hajuu: You abide by the rules, or you don't. [15:17] *shrug* like I say, its a difference of opinion in my view. [15:17] I wasnt 'breaking the rules' I was discussing an ubuntu-related activity [15:17] You're not in a position to argue your opinion. [15:17] in a general ubuntu chat room [15:17] ... [15:17] #ubuntu is not general in any case. [15:17] Ok. Great. [15:17] Very diplomatic. [15:17] It's a *support* forum. [15:17] "We're right. you cant disagree or else!" [15:17] Thanks. [15:18] Hajuu: The IRC Council, who created these rules, were appointed by the community. The community set these rules. [15:18] I also suggest you read the Code of Conduct and IrcGuidelines before you continue [15:18] !coc | Hajuu [15:18] Hajuu: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ [15:18] !guidelines | Hajuu [15:18] Hajuu: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [15:18] That should help you get started. [15:18] Id rather not waste any more time, thus why I was propositioning you, as you put it. [15:18] don't worry, I wont help in there, and im sure you wont care. [15:18] Good day. [15:19] Some people... [17:04] LjL called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (drones joining, may want to have +r set while they persist, depending on what they're doing) [17:05] they are joining and being klined as they join [17:05] :) [19:03] Hajuu also seems to have been off-topic and decidedly unhelpful in -server, GWIW [19:03] s/G/F/ [19:18] concur [19:19] * jussi01 bites ikonia [19:19] ikonia: pm [19:19] sure sure [19:30] mneptok: Indeed. [19:30] mneptok: That's why I took the hard approach. [19:30] MenZa: oh, did you ban/remove him from -server? [19:30] No [19:30] Just the above log [19:32] mneptok: I have no authority in server. :) [19:32] mneptok: To put it bluntly, I'm expecting him to continue where he left off in -ot, though. [19:32] he's been quiet in server for a while now [19:32] Oh. [19:32] Speak of the devil. [19:33] See -ot. [19:34] no. [19:34] i haven't seen -ot in months, and it's going to stay that way ;) [19:34] * jussi01 ban forwards mneptok to -ot :P [19:35] mneptok: The moment I finished writing the above lines, I tabbed to /w 7 [19:35] [2009-10-21 18:31:43 UTC] < Hajuu> you become a lvl 9 asstaco. [19:35] [2009-10-21 18:31:47 UTC] < Hajuu> How does that feel? [19:36] +b [19:36] removed for now. [19:36] ikonia called the ops in #ubuntu-server (Hajuu) [19:36] damn it [19:36] no grunt in -server [19:36] I thought I had that [19:36] There we go, banned [19:36] same here [19:37] help in -server please [19:37] Pici: jussi01 elky Pici [19:37] !ops | Hajuu -server [19:37] Hajuu -server: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia! [19:37] mneptok called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (Hajuu -server) [19:37] I'll check what happened to my rights in -server [19:38] niko: big thanks [19:39] niko: /k please? [19:40] * MenZa sighs. [19:41] he's long gone [19:41] sorry, he floods me a lot [19:41] on pv [19:44] do you want me to change the ban ? [19:45] like Hajuu*!*@* perhaps ? [19:45] you're call [19:45] your [19:55] Pici: ping [20:15] niko: I just have *!*@hostmask in -ot. [20:16] Hajuu*!*@* is just.. bad in some way :\ [20:16] * MenZa dislikes nickbans - they're the last resort. [20:25] *!*dfgt@*.dyn.iinet.net.au