[00:17] <foot> Hello, I am having problems using my soundblaster on intrepid, if i test alsa ( speaker-test  -Dplug:front -c2 -D1) I get an error ALSA lib pcm.c:2196:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM 1
[00:18] <foot> The soundcard works good with ubuntu jaunty on another computer...
[00:29] <foot> I finf this http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-remove-pulse-audio-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html/comment-page-1
[00:29] <foot> it says how to remove pulseaudio, but i have no Go to System -> Preferences -> Sessions in xubuntu
[01:47] <GSF1200S> anyone here running on dual screens?
[02:21] <craigbass1976> I want to fire up the terminal without using the menu.  xterm is NOT the terminal I want, but the one in the menu.  What's it called?
[04:26] <craigbass1976> I want to fire up the terminal without using the menu.  xterm is NOT the terminal I want, but the one in the menu.  What's it called?
[04:41] <craigbass1976> forget it, it was xfce4-terminal
[05:28] <Besogon> hello. I fond out Alacarte source yesterday. I'm complete noob in programming and in spite of this I think that Alacarte has written with Python. It programm consists of three small source file. See alacarte at http://alacarte.sourcearchive.com/
[05:28] <Besogon> Don't somebody know this language to resolve problem wih menu?
[06:15] <Balsaq> _Techie_i think i accidentally invented a new wireless hack
[06:17] <Balsaq> prolly not new...
[06:18] <Balsaq> if i have a password protected wirelss network and i set up a computer and get on without the password is that a hack?
[06:22] <nic1> hey i like to see the list of packages for my architecture, on de.debian.org, how can i see the list?
[06:23] <psycho_oreos> Balsaq, no
[06:23] <Balsaq> whew i hope not, that means others can do what i did
[06:24] <Balsaq> but why did it let me on without by dalgarned pword...
[06:24] <psycho_oreos> you must either have saved the password somewhere or you didn't apply the security setup
[06:25] <Balsaq> saved password? not to my knowledge...and didn't see the chance to do a security set up-did the original install with verizon and have a password is all i know
[06:26] <Balsaq> and it shows online as secure
[06:26] <Balsaq> when my wife comes home she has to use the password every time on the lapper
[06:27] <Balsaq> you see, i did not feel like running to my basement to get the numbers so i fiddles around and BANG i was on
[06:28] <Balsaq> w/o the ssn or the password or anything
[06:29] <Balsaq> they told me wep is toast in the wireless chat channel
[07:04] <nic1>  have Makefile.am and Makefile.in in my package, not able to run make or make clean without errors
[07:26] <preston> lovin karmic xubuntu on my eee 900hd
[07:28] <preston> cody-somerville, your doing a hell of a job man
[07:28] <Balsaq> brb...
[07:29] <preston> i tried ubuntu on my eee as well and liked the look and feel of xubunu better to be hones
[07:29] <preston> t
[07:36] <preston> chatty cathy
[08:32] <Balsaq> knome are you in here?
[08:44] <ioka> guys what is the command to start terminal
[08:47] <Sysi> xfce4-terminal
[08:47] <ioka> 10x
[09:08] <[BadStart]> Hello to everyone
[09:12] <[BadStart]> I'm a Debian user and yesterday I saw XUbuntu and I decided to try it but I encoutered a very strange boot situation. First: The CD boots but when I wish to try or install, the boot process hungs; Trying again I disabled the splash screen and the quiet mode and I saw a lot of error just before drivers were loaded (a lot of "tainted")
[09:13] <[BadStart]> Unluckily I've not the detailed log now but any suggestions will be appreciated
[09:15] <Balsaq> wow it slid right in for me....no clue....what kind of computer-specs
[09:16] <[BadStart]> Compaq Armada M700 256Mb RAM
[09:16] <Balsaq> oldie but a goodie huh
[09:16] <Balsaq> maybe a bad disc?
[09:16] <[BadStart]> yes, it's old but... Debian works :)
[09:16] <Balsaq> did you make it or order it?(the xubu disc)
[09:17] <[BadStart]> I did it but it works well booted on a VirtualBox of my office PC
[09:17] <Balsaq> hmmm...so it aint the puter and it aint the cd
[09:17] <[BadStart]> It seems something hardware related
[09:18] <Balsaq> but debian works on it you say
[09:18] <[BadStart]> yes
[09:18] <[BadStart]> I have the latest stable (lenny)
[09:19] <Balsaq> did you attempt a clean install
[09:19] <[BadStart]> But surely it works with an older kernel
[09:19] <[BadStart]> What do you mean with "clean install"?
[09:20] <[BadStart]> I tried to boot in "live mode" but it hungs anyway... :(
[09:20] <Balsaq> so it didnt even get to that option
[09:21] <Balsaq> hmmm..over my head i guess
[09:21] <[BadStart]> In very first time, I saw errors about ACPI driver (tainted) so I tried "acpi=off"...
[09:22] <[BadStart]> But similar erros appeared on comm and many other drivers :(
[09:22] <Balsaq> did you try the xubu disc in any other machine
[09:23] <[BadStart]> today evening I will try again... there is a way to save what the console shows?
[09:23] <Balsaq> dont know
[09:24] <Balsaq> if all is well with debian and you dont get errors id try that disc in another computer and see what happens
[09:25] <[BadStart]> thank you Balsaq, I will try later...
[09:25] <[BadStart]> But I've checked the MD5 sums when I did it
[09:25] <[BadStart]> but I will try on my VirtualBox
[09:25] <Balsaq> wish i could help i did mine off a cd that i ordered...ididnt burn it myself and it was easier to install than XP
[09:26] <Balsaq> did you create the cd yourself?
[09:26] <[BadStart]> I downloaded the iso
[09:26] <[BadStart]> and burned it
[09:26] <[BadStart]> yes
[09:27] <Balsaq> i have only tried off a pro made cd so that is why i asked and it really went in fast and easy
[09:27] <[BadStart]> the iso certainly works (I tried under my VirtualBox)
[09:27] <Balsaq> ok
[09:27] <[BadStart]> I will try the cd later
[09:27] <[BadStart]> thank you
[09:27] <Balsaq> try puuting it in a flsah drive and install from there and see if the puter likes that
[09:28] <Balsaq> flash*
[09:28] <Balsaq> wild idea...
[09:28] <Balsaq> but they do it
[09:28] <Balsaq> maybe the compaq and that cd dont get along
[09:31] <Balsaq> http://ubuntu.com/community/installation/FromUSBStick
[10:02] <jarnos> I have two Xfce sessions in the list in GDM in 9.10.
[10:11] <[BadStart]> Ok... I just tried the CD on a VirtualBox and it works... so... why the boot hangs on my laptop?! :s
[10:14] <XamDM> is ther a plugin for xfce that allows to choose the govenor for the cpu ???
[10:15] <bpb> badstart, where does it hang? after the install on the first boot? or when it tries to load X?
[10:16] <XamDM>  ialso noticed that xfmedia segfaults (im on amd64) anyoneelse the same problem ??
[10:17] <bpb> xamdm, did u even look on google?
[10:18] <bpb> first thing on the list when u type xfmedia is "seg fault on ubuntu"
[10:21] <XamDM> is ther a channel for xubuntu 9.10 beta ???
[10:22] <bpb> i dunno but thats what im running right now
[10:22] <bpb> yeah 1.40 super fast
[10:22] <bpb> haha
[10:23] <bpb> ubuntu is slow, but xubuntu runs quite nicely for me
[10:23] <XamDM> it realy rusn fast, im just searching for a usable xine-frontend on xubuntu (totem has no xine-backend anymore)
[10:25] <bpb> good luck ill be back tomorrow
[10:28] <[BadStart]> damn :s
[10:28] <[BadStart]> too late :)
[10:28] <ioka> if i remove the gnome desktop environment will i get rid of and free my memory.I have 512Mb ram and it is always 85 % is in use.
[10:28] <ioka> *of the lag
[10:29] <ioka> I installed XFCE4 and I do not see much impeovement
[10:33] <XamDM> ioka, im running xfce4 at the moment an have 356MB of the memory used
[10:35] <ioka> first I installed ubuntu.then I decided to see if I get the xubuntu environmental the performance will increase.So I did not uninstall the gnome.I just loged in using xfce4 .Are there any processes from gnome that might be also running?
[10:36] <XamDM> ioka, xfce launches some gnomestuff
[10:37] <XamDM> can bi disabled under xfce4-settings,session,advanced (hope so (il have to transalte[im german])
[10:37] <XamDM> ioka, i have the gnomestuff enabled so that might not be the problem (did you reboot after installing xfce ???)
[10:37] <ioka> no
[10:38] <ioka> just logged out
[10:38] <XamDM> ioka, maybe some deamons still running from gnome ??, i don't know just an idea
[10:39] <XamDM> i am running 64bit i dont know if this uses less memory
[10:39] <ioka> will uninstalling gnome help getting better speed?Mine is also 64bit
[10:40] <XamDM> ioka, i dont belive that but i don't know, i just did a fresh xubuntu-install
[10:40] <XamDM> but xubuntu uses much gnome-tools
[10:41] <ioka> java proccess is taking all of my cpu
[10:41] <ioka> I killed it it came up again
[10:42] <XamDM> openoffice running ?ß, ther had been an error some time ago
[10:42] <XamDM> i don't see a java process on my system
[10:42] <XamDM> i have to look after my child ....
[10:44] <XamDM> sun-java ore openjava ???
[10:47] <[BadStart]> Ok... XUbuntu hangs just before kernel modules installation... I don't know why... I just saw many (tainted) modules error dumps :(
[10:57] <ioka> sun java
[10:57] <ioka> I think I'll reboot to see if there will be any difference
[10:58] <ioka> btw i have 512 Mb ram but xubuntu reports only 493.6
[11:05] <XamDM> ioka, maybe shared with VGA ???
[11:08] <ioka> yes 64 MB is shared
[11:16] <ioka> is there a search option in the gui file browser xubuntu use?I can not find it
[11:17] <XamDM> rightclick on a folder
[11:17] <ioka> is there a way to search not only in the folder I click on it but also in the subfolders?
[11:21] <XamDM> it searches subfolders by default
[13:29] <[BadStart]> Hi again :)
[13:30] <[BadStart]> I'm still facing installation problem with xubuntu, if someone wish to help me I will appreciate it :)
[13:54] <XamDM> [BadStart], ok, what problems do you have, what kind of hardware do you use ??
[13:56] <[BadStart]> just a moment please
[13:58] <[BadStart]> Ok
[13:59] <[BadStart]> I'm trying to install XUbuntu 9.04 on a Compaq Armada M700 equiped with 256MB of RAM
[13:59] <[BadStart]> Searching on google I just found many other users facing off my problem that is: the boot process hung
[14:00] <[BadStart]> Maybe it's a kernel incompatibility matter :(
[14:01] <XamDM> did you try xubuntu 9.10 beta ??
[14:01] <[BadStart]> No
[14:01] <XamDM> its using a newer kernel (2.6.31)
[14:02] <XamDM> official release is 29.10. so its ok to install it
[14:03] <[BadStart]> Ok, I will download the iso
[14:03] <Sysi> [BadStart]: it don't boot to installation or after that?
[14:03] <XamDM> did you try to boot with noapic and noalsa (alsa=off not shure) ?
[14:03] <XamDM> its a livecd you can just checkout if it fits your needs
[14:03] <XamDM> look for the daily-livecd
[14:03] <[BadStart]> Ok, follows what I did yesterday:
[14:04] <[BadStart]> The XUbuntu "main menu" boots but I'm not able to install or try it in live mode
[14:04] <XamDM> [BadStart], sorry ill have to leave, my wife waits at work ..., il be bak in a few hors
[14:05] <[BadStart]> don't worry, thank you and have a nice day :)
[14:05] <XamDM> maybe it works with 9.10, otherwise pres f6 and disable apic and acpi
[14:05] <[BadStart]> I tried
[14:09] <ioka> woudl anyone be so kind please to tell me the command to move directories?
[14:09] <mccracken> !terminal
[14:13] <ioka> what is the name for default file manager in xubuntu and how can I start it as a root?
[14:14] <mccracken> "sudo thunar"
[14:14] <mccracken> !thunar
[14:17] <ioka> thanks
[14:33] <Shurik2k5> guys, i can't see panels in xfce4  after reboot
[14:33] <Shurik2k5> only desktop folder
[14:34] <likemindead> What version of Xubuntu?
[14:34] <Shurik2k5> 9.04
[14:34] <Sysi> al + f2 "xfce4-panel"
[14:34] <Sysi> *alt
[14:34] <Shurik2k5> in linux mint -> apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[14:35] <Shurik2k5> it work, but panels not standart
[14:35] <Shurik2k5> only one panel in bottom
[14:35] <Sysi> make them as you like :)
[14:35] <Shurik2k5> i customize my panels long time
[14:35] <Shurik2k5> after reboot i can't see it
[14:36] <Shurik2k5> after startx xfce4-panels i see standart panel
[14:36] <Sysi> have you saved session?
[14:36] <Shurik2k5> ooooops
[14:36] <Shurik2k5> no
[14:37] <Shurik2k5> i think panels save automated
[14:37] <Sysi> well, that may solve it
[14:37] <Shurik2k5> a'm i right?
[14:37] <Sysi> i think they should save otherly also
[14:39] <Shurik2k5> by the way xubuntu work stable compared with gnome version
[14:42] <Shurik2k5> where can i find some tips to work with xubuntu?
[14:43] <Shurik2k5> optimization/perfomance etc.
[14:45] <Shurik2k5> Sysi thanks a lot!
[16:35] <Besogon> Hello. I have found alacarte source. It seems that alacarte has written with python and consists from 3 small files. http://alacarte.sourcearchive.com/ (There shouldn't be much different between Gnome menu and Xfce menu). May be someone can change situation in xfce with menu editor. I'm completely noob in programming.
[17:50] <Carlis10> Hi
[17:52] <dreewill_> hi
[17:55] <likemindead> !hi
[18:07] <dreewill_> does anyone know a link where i can see the changes made to xfce for xubuntu?
[18:10] <TheSheep> dreewill_: there are diffs on launchpad for every project
[18:14] <jarnos> I lost ability to suspend by closing lid in Karmic maybe due to partial upgrade. Which packages control this?
[18:14] <dreewill_> @TheSheep thx
[18:16] <chang-li> hi, i don't see xfce4-autostart-editor.
[18:24] <trkemist> anyone here can help me with a quick xwindows question using ATI config?
[18:26] <trkemist> I can't move widnows between screenns, but I can move my mouse?
[18:32] <chang-li> trkemist: are the windows max or resizable?
[20:37] <slow-motion> hi
[20:38] <likemindead> !hi
[20:55] <RiSkOo> hola
[20:55] <RiSkOo> alguien habla español?
[20:57] <craigbass1976> Is there a way to make a launcher for a jsp file up on my top bar?
[21:58] <slow-motion> n8
[22:30] <niros> hello
[22:30] <nikolam> hi
[22:31] <niros> did anyone occured issus with connecting Evolution to MS Exhcnage?
[22:31] <niros> evloution just crashes ... :)
[22:42] <nikolam> mmm I dont use evolution.. nor ms * anything
[22:42] <nikolam> anyone else to help niros ?
[22:44] <niros> nikolam: i'm working in an organization , i mostly need it for Appointments and those corparte bullsh1t :)
[22:45] <nikolam> I use thunderbird with lightning add-on for calendar
[22:45] <nikolam> i have my calendar published on .ics file on server
[22:46] <nikolam> and I import calendars from other sources
[22:46] <nikolam> but if your infastructure is based on that, then oh, i suppose
[22:46] <nikolam> niros, did you try different version of evolution?
[22:47] <nikolam> what version of xubuntu you use?
[22:49] <niros> how can i know that , i Can print you `uname` output
[22:49] <niros> ..
[22:53] <niros> i'm downloading the latest version ... :)
[23:03] <nikolam> niros use latest stable