[01:00] barry: ping === duanedesign is now known as okloco === okloco is now known as duanedesign [02:03] lifeless: pong [02:26] barry: wanted to talk about python 2.6.3 & boost [02:26] barry: and karmic releasing just around the corner [02:52] lifeless: hi. i'm here for a little bit longer. let's talk [02:53] barry: well, mainly wondering if there is anything we can do to 'fix' things safely, as the release is days away [02:54] i only just heard about the __doc__ issue today. is there anything else affecting boost? [02:54] not that I know of [02:55] I'm not personally involved, was just trying to get the right folk discussing stuff [02:55] which is really you, slangasek/doko and on #ubuntu-devel ;) [02:55] ah, are they chatting about it now? (probably not, it's doko's bed time :) [02:56] i'm also not yet convinced that the boost failure is a python 2.6.3 regression [02:57] well, __doc__ becoming readonly buggered some code of ours in bzr too, IIRC. [02:58] anyhow, like I say, not personally involved, and if you're aware of the issue now/already - great. [02:59] yep. the problem comes down to this: if we try to revert the change or make a further patch, then we won't release python 2.6.4 on the 25th. it'll have to go through another rc, meaning at least another week after that. otoh, if this really is a serious regression, then we have to address it. [02:59] python bug 7183 tracks this, though i think it was caused by the fix for but 5890 [02:59] Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/6890) [03:00] heh [03:00] lifeless: can you tell me, was the problem in bzr extension code, or pure python? [03:01] barry: offhand, from memory, pure python [03:01] lifeless: i'd love to have a short reproducible pure python example [03:04] barry: I'll have a quick peek at our log and see if my offhand memories are real; if so I can probably find our diff [03:04] lifeless: awesome [03:05] lifeless: if we're going to hold up 2.6.4, we will have to do it in the next day or two [03:05] please wait o/~ [04:26] i wanna report a disbanded LoCo [04:27] the community council would be the right place to mail [04:27] ok, give me the mail please [04:28] ok [04:28] i have it [04:28] i dosent read all [04:28] the info [05:11] I'm not really sure where corrections for help.launchpad.net should go, but you need to s/Freenode/freenode/g (Replace freenode with freenode). I just saw https://help.launchpad.net/Feedback, but I'm pretty sure it is on some other wiki pages [05:37] nhandler: hm? [05:37] why should Freenode be lower case? [05:38] I thought because Freenode is a proper noun is should be upper case.. [05:40] nhandler: You're obviously he expert - I'm jsut curious about the reasoning. I can't do anything either way.. [06:49] Good morning === ripps_ is now known as ripps [07:48] hi [07:49] is normal that If I upload a package with the architecture "all" it compiles a cross platform package, put it in every architecture/Packages file but the Lp User Interface shows it only for i386? === mthaddon` is now known as mthaddon [08:25] fale: arch all packages are always built on i386 machines [08:25] fale: is that what you're asking? [08:26] mwhudson: no, I'm asking why from the user interface it seems like the package is only available for i386 [08:26] ah, don't know about that [09:36] fale: The LP UI shows the *builds*, not the archs on which it is available. [09:36] It is rather confusing, but arch-indep packages have only an i386 build. [09:36] wgrant: I see.. I think it is a little bit confusing.. but I can see the result === danilo-afk is now known as danilos === deryck is now known as deryck[afk] === matsubara-afk is now known as matsubara [12:15] Hi - I googled this, but was not able to find an answer. Is it possible to see the number of people who have selected the "This bug affects me"? [12:15] ... for a bug. [12:19] MTecknology: I cannot remember the reasoning at this time, but trust me that it is freenode [12:20] garyvdm: I'm afraid there isn't, yet. [12:20] ok === mrevell changed the topic of #launchpad to: Read https://help.launchpad.net for help | Help contact: kfogel | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | This channel is logged: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ | Launchpad is open source: see channel #launchpad-dev | Launchpad.net was experiencing slowdown due to upcoming Ubuntu release traffic; we've added servers to fix this. === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch === salgado-afk is now known as salgado [12:34] garyvdm: you can get the number using the API, but not using the web UI [12:35] so if you want to collect statistics or something like this you can write a script using launchpadlib that will get the number of affected users [12:39] intellectronica: I have no more high importance bugs, and I'm trying to see which bugs should be high. [12:40] garyvdm: you can sort search results by the number of affected users. you won't see the number, but you can still use it to prioritize [12:40] intellectronica: I did a search order by the number of people it affects, but I don't know where the list of 0's start. [12:40] right === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk === matsubara-afk is now known as matsubara [14:20] is there a way to browse launchpad projects via a hierarchy like games, gnome apps, kde apps, etc..? [14:24] r0dzilla, nope [14:27] so you have to already know the name of the project... [14:39] r0dzilla, that's right. === deryck[afk] is now known as deryck [15:39] hello === MTecknology is now known as MTeck-ricer [15:40] I cannot browse launchpad, I get timeout errors [15:40] like this: Our edge server has a lower timeout threshold than launchpad.net, so we can catch those before they hit a wider audience. As a member of the Launchpad Beta Testers team, you're more likely to experience them. If this is blocking your work, you can disable redirection. [15:41] there's a button to "disable redirection for 2 hours", but it solves absolutely nithing; and I don't remember signing up for any beta testing [15:41] can anyone tell me what to do to solve this? [15:45] <_stink_> i'm trying to update the description of this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/456902 [15:45] Launchpad bug 456902 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "Karmic stops responding a few minutes after log in" [Undecided,Confirmed] [15:46] <_stink_> but when i click the green check to submit my changes, i get a spinny busy wheel and the textarea is surrounded by a red border... and it sits like this forever. [15:46] <_stink_> dunno if this is a launchpad bug or not. [15:46] <_stink_> i've tried it twice, same result. my changes don't end up in the bug report [15:59] is anyone alive in this channel? [16:01] <_stink_> there's a teeny-tiny bit of text at the bottom of the red box that says "Entity-body was not a well-formed JSON document." [16:03] <_stink_> even if i 1) click to edit it, then immediately 2) click to submit it unchanged, i get the same red border and JSON error. [16:03] zugu, what's your Launchpad username? [16:03] _stink_, could you file a bug please? [16:07] <_stink_> beuno: yep, doing now. [16:11] <_stink_> beuno: looks like it's this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/331990 [16:11] Launchpad bug 331990 in launchpad-foundations "The inline editor widget reports a JSON error when saving non-ASCII characters" [High,Fix committed] [16:12] _stink_, thanks [16:12] <_stink_> comments say it's in edge but not release. [16:12] <_stink_> np [16:14] beuno: why doe it matter? [16:14] *does [16:14] <_stink_> awesome, worked fine in edge. [16:15] zugu, so I can find out why you're on edge [16:15] beuno: my username is zugurudumba [16:16] zugu, so, you're not a beta member [16:16] beuno, that's what I thought [16:17] you probably ended up on edge because you followed a link nthat had edge in it [16:17] beuno, how do I know if I landed on edge? [16:17] beuno, and what can I do to solve this? [16:18] zugu, the URL has the word "edge" in it on the beggining [16:18] edge.launchpad.net [16:18] just remove the "edge." from the URL [16:18] beuno, no it has no "edge" in it [16:19] beuno, and it never had [16:19] so you're not on edge [16:19] beuno, I can't even submit a bug [16:22] same error occurs even when i'm logged out [16:22] there's something definitely wrong with the site [16:23] zugu, yes, we are under particularly high load [16:23] it's being solved today by adding more hardware === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [16:24] if that is true, I shouldn't be he only one experiencing timeouts [16:24] *the only one [16:24] zugu, you are not === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch === jon is now known as Guest24002 === henninge_ is now known as henninge === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [17:12] how do i create a main branch for my new projekt? [17:12] project === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === EdwinGrubbs is now known as Edwin-lunch [17:18] none that can give me a hint in the right direction? [17:18] larsemil: I'm not sure I understand your question [17:19] larsemil: in launchpad, you can set any branch as the development focus for a series [17:19] larsemil: is that what you meant? === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno === danilos is now known as danilo-afk === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [18:58] Hi, so it looks like someone is changing upstream links on projects to point to this: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubslax [18:58] and it's affecting our ability to link to upstream bug links [19:03] I've uploaded a package to my PPA, but update-manager always displays a warning that the package is unauthenticated, although I've imported the key. I looked into the repository and noticed that there is no Release.gpg file... could this be the problem's source? http://ppa.launchpad.net/martin.von.wittich/libwnck-nodimming/ubuntu/dists/karmic/ [19:03] sinzui, jcastro has an interesting problem ^^ [19:04] someone told me lack of acl's was a feature on this, but I would like submit this as an argument for having such things. :D [19:04] (I'm fixing the upstream links now) [19:05] trying to fix the link to gnome-desktop give me an oops: (Error ID: OOPS-1391EC431) [19:06] https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1391EC431 [19:06] jcastro, let me see [19:06] no worries, let me know how I can help. === rmcbride_ is now known as rmcbride [19:17] Ursinha: the person responsed to my mail and just was confused, so I don't think it was malicious or anything === Edwin-lunch is now known as EdwinGrubbs === funkyHat is now known as funkyHatHat === funkyHatHat is now known as funkyHat [20:35] hi. i subscribed and sent a email to a list one day and a half ago but still i cant see it in the lists archive and i didnt get it in my mailbox. Where can i test to see whats wrong? [20:53] has anyone noticed that karma isn't working anymore? [20:56] webm0nk3y: How do you figure that? [20:59] soren, in our project ubuntuone-servers, the karma doesn't seem to be changing for anyone [21:00] webm0nk3y: https://edge.launchpad.net/~statik/+karma as an example seems to have gotten karma for recent actions. [21:03] soren, perhaps its the karma display on the project page then [21:09] there is some problem with launchpad server? === salgado is now known as salgado-afk === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk [21:52] how do I unmark a bug as private? [21:53] it's not in the global actions on the bug page [21:53] and not a link next to the information that it is private [21:54] james_w: There should be a little foot next to the statement this is private [21:54] in the top right [21:54] I'm pretty sure there isn't [21:54] is it a browser issue? can you see it? [21:54] what browser? [21:54] which bug? [21:56] well, you can't see the bug :-) [21:56] I'm in chromium at the moment [21:57] let me check a private bug I can see [21:57] href="/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/458086/+secrecy" [21:57] title="Change privacy/security"> [21:58] appears in firefox 3.6b1 in edge and production [21:58] I'll try chromium [21:58] yeah, I can see it in firefox [21:59] interesting it appeared for half a second and disappeared [22:00] I'd say file a bug in malone [22:00] something is different about that control than the other ajax ones [22:18] I could use some help building packages using PPA. I'm building php with a patch that requires another package from my PPA [22:18] how do I tell launchpad to depend on and build against that package [22:19] stevecrozz: if it's in the PPA it'll be used [22:19] oh, cool, thanks [22:20] micahg: does it automatically create the dependency? so that when people apt-get install my php5, it'll automatically get the other package too? [22:21] OK, I asked yesterday and was told it would be fixed automagically , but alas still borken [22:21] I activated a ppa [22:21] here : https://launchpad.net/~zenix-shravaka/+ppa-packages [22:22] but the package I uploaded is not showing (as you can see) [22:22] it shows here : https://launchpad.net/~zenix-shravaka/+archive/ppa [22:22] so, how to fix the first link ? [22:26] looks like i can add that in debian/control [22:45] bodhi_zazen: That page shows packages that the person has uploaded. The team has not uploaded any. [22:46] Note that it *does* show up on https://launchpad.net/~bodhi.zazen/+ppa-packages [23:10] OK, so how does a "team" upload packages rather then a person ? [23:10] bodhi_zazen: They don't, normally. That barely makes sense. [23:10] Why do you want it to show up on that page? [23:11] Well , on this page https://launchpad.net/~zenix-shravaka [23:11] is a link "PPA packages" [23:11] ase well as a link which goes here : https://launchpad.net/~zenix-sangha/+ppa-packages [23:11] That's gone now (if you look at https://edge.launchpad.net/~zenix-shravaka) [23:12] so why would a team have a ppa page if they can not upload packages ? [23:12] A bug. It shared code with the normal person page. [23:13] Ah, if it a bug, how do I fix it ? [23:13] or do I report it ? [23:13] If you look at the page I just linked to, you'll see that it is already fixed. [23:13] On edge, which runs the latest code, the link is gone. [23:14] Thank you [23:14] it makes sense now [23:14] may I ask for another bug fix ? [23:14] You should probably file a bug. What is the bug? [23:14] this url https://launchpad.net/zenbuntu [23:14] I would like to change it to [23:15] https://launchpad.net/zenix [23:15] I filed a bug on it [23:15] That's not a bug. You should ask at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion, and an admin will do it. [23:16] I asked on that link a week or so ago, no resonse [23:17] https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/85249 [23:17] How long should I wait to bump that ? [23:19] That's odd. [23:35] =) [23:35] advice , if any ?