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| d33d | anyone around? I just wanted to say I'm ready to contribute to the "Ubuntu Community Learning Project" and I've signed up :D | 01:37 |
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| Saj0577 | hey d33d im here but real tired if want to aks anything :) | 01:38 |
| d33d | im in the same boat - i was just looking for someone to quiz me and approve me for the launchpad team? | 01:39 |
| d33d | they "quiz" - well more like "tell you how it is" in the fedora project when you want to be a contributor | 01:39 |
| Saj0577 | d33d: well i cant approve you on LP team. but what you looking to help out with any particular area? | 01:40 |
| d33d | no, i like to teach. | 01:40 |
| d33d | and learn :D | 01:40 |
| Saj0577 | okays. you got any areas your a boffin on?:) | 01:40 |
| d33d | lol well i'd say i at least know hot to use ubuntu. desktop and some server-side (ubuntu as a web app server)... | 01:42 |
| Saj0577 | okay cool stuff. | 01:42 |
| d33d | and I'm learning python | 01:42 |
| Saj0577 | hey BiosElement | 01:42 |
| d33d | just a smathering | 01:42 |
| BiosElement | Hey Saj0577. ^_^ | 01:43 |
| Saj0577 | d33d: okays. well if you stick around im sure someone whos awake can talk to you a bit more heh :) as i said here if want to ask anything | 01:43 |
| d33d | doctormo, ping | 01:45 |
| doctormo | d33d: pong | 01:45 |
| d33d | doctormo, I'm looking at the SystemAdminTopics classes and I'd like to help in anyway I can. I'd like to learn and critique :D | 01:45 |
| d33d | just says you're looking to attract people from IRC and various blogs (planets) :D | 01:46 |
| cprofitt | d33d, sounds great. | 01:46 |
| cprofitt | we can use all the help we can get. | 01:46 |
| Saj0577 | hey cprofitt not see you there. | 01:46 |
| cprofitt | we are... | 01:46 |
| cprofitt | are there questions I can answer d33d ? | 01:47 |
| pleia2 | welcome d33d | 01:47 |
| d33d | not really - I think I'm just going to tackle these classes a bit this evening and get back to you - unless....you can approve me on LP | 01:48 |
| Saj0577 | d33d: well il leave you with these people goodnight for now take care (and everyone else im here if need me but just chillen) | 01:48 |
| pleia2 | sure I'll approve you, sec | 01:48 |
| pleia2 | g55 | 01:48 |
| pleia2 | oops | 01:48 |
| d33d | Saj0577, peace out | 01:48 |
| cprofitt | I can do that d33d | 01:48 |
| pleia2 | lp is sooo slow | 01:49 |
| d33d | pleia2, is that your password? lol hope not. | 01:49 |
| BiosElement | If it was, it isn't anymore. Anyway, it's too short >.> | 01:49 |
| pleia2 | d33d: haha, no, switching windows in irssi | 01:49 |
| cprofitt | which perso are you d33d ? | 01:49 |
| d33d | Alex Lutz | 01:49 |
| d33d | sorry - should i change it to d33d instead? | 01:49 |
| cprofitt | approved | 01:49 |
| cprofitt | nah... it does not matter | 01:50 |
| d33d | why thank you Elizabeth Krumbach | 01:50 |
| d33d | :D | 01:50 |
| d33d | which is ??? | 01:50 |
| cprofitt | someone else processed it 3 seconds before I did | 01:50 |
| BiosElement | haha, that was pleia probably. | 01:50 |
| d33d | pleia2, i think did | 01:50 |
| pleia2 | cprofitt: I said I'd aprove him first ;) | 01:50 |
| d33d | I like you guys. | 01:50 |
| cprofitt | sorry... did not see that pleia2 | 01:51 |
| pleia2 | hehe, it's all good | 01:51 |
| d33d | this is a good community project. | 01:51 |
| d33d | you're all too nice :P | 01:51 |
| cprofitt | thanks d33d | 01:51 |
| cprofitt | let me know if you want a walk through with Moodle | 01:51 |
| cprofitt | doctormo, or BiosElement can help with asciidoc | 01:52 |
| cprofitt | pleia2, with IRC | 01:52 |
| * Saj0577 hopes cprofitt does not give him them fab videos to look at lol | 01:52 | |
| d33d | actually - probably - no familiarity with moodle at all - however, i have to travel home first. :D | 01:52 |
| BiosElement | Yep, I'm around to help with asciidoc/bazaar if you need it. Though I may be a tad slow as I'm running basically on dialup. | 01:53 |
| d33d | I'm also a fedora project contributor - but they make it so freakin' hard to get around. | 01:53 |
| d33d | there's like 12 different websites for 3 things. Its just confusing. | 01:53 |
| cprofitt | nah... I think that course has to go now Saj0577 | 01:53 |
| BiosElement | I doubt it's as bad as kde. I can't even find their mailing lists. >.> | 01:53 |
| d33d | not brining up fedora for "fightin" words. | 01:53 |
| d33d | BiosElement, lol. | 01:54 |
| d33d | mailing lists were easy to find. | 01:54 |
| d33d | good luck with that. | 01:54 |
| pleia2 | I had a nice time chatting with the fedora guys at the conference I went to this past week | 01:54 |
| cprofitt | d33d, I am a Fedora Ambassador | 01:54 |
| Saj0577 | cprofitt: what a shame hehe. we need to make a new one you think is there one in process not bene on the site for a few days just been workingn on locla machine getting ideas together. | 01:54 |
| d33d | cprofitt, Same here. | 01:54 |
| cprofitt | Saj0577, yeah... we need a better one... | 01:55 |
| d33d | Saj0577, you from the UK? | 01:55 |
| doctormo | Welcome d33d, sorry for the delay, setting up openldap here and we failed again, (6th week running) but we're very close! | 01:55 |
| Saj0577 | d33d: sure am. | 01:55 |
| Saj0577 | why? | 01:55 |
| cprofitt | doctormo, what issues are you having? | 01:55 |
| d33d | doctormo, ah the "trial and error method" | 01:56 |
| BiosElement | d33d: There's another method? >.> | 01:56 |
| d33d | Saj0577, never heard the term boffin - wikipedia filled me in :D | 01:56 |
| doctormo | cprofitt: It logs on via ssh ok, but fails via gdm | 01:56 |
| d33d | BiosElement, no. its just the best method. because most likely you will fail, and learn a heck of a lot more than you would if it just "worked" | 01:57 |
| Saj0577 | d33d: oright hehe. :P i will come up wit many terms trhat you probably think WHAT to while your here hehe. | 01:57 |
| d33d | good. I'll learn more UK terms, and use them here and people will be like WTF? | 01:57 |
| d33d | its good. | 01:57 |
| d33d | well - its time for me to depart for a bit, be back later | 01:57 |
| cprofitt | see ya d33d | 01:58 |
| doctormo | OK, so it looks like we're heading out here | 01:58 |
| Saj0577 | d33d: cya laters take care | 01:58 |
| doctormo | d33d: Go through and pick a course, I'd be happy to have you aboard either writting one of the missing classes or editing existing ones. | 01:58 |
| Saj0577 | whats the topic? i cnt see when next meeting is cos i use irssi it dont show it all | 02:00 |
| BiosElement | It still thinks the "next" meeting is on the 19th. I don't know when the next one is. >.> | 02:01 |
| Saj0577 | oright thanks | 02:01 |
| pleia2 | yeah, we haven't planned one yet | 02:03 |
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| Saj0577 | okays. | 02:04 |
| Saj0577 | i really should head ot bed soon lo | 02:04 |
| BiosElement | Saj0577: Previous meeting logs are here if you want them. http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/10/20/%23ubuntu-meeting.html | 02:08 |
| BiosElement | I'm actually just finally getting a chance to read through them. | 02:08 |
| Saj0577 | BiosElement: thanks its on my to do list already lol | 02:09 |
| BiosElement | haha, great. | 02:09 |
| Saj0577 | its one pretty big list right now hopefully weekend will help me reduce it lol | 02:10 |
| BiosElement | You should see my list...It's got over 700 entries. I never actually get a chance to read most of them :S | 02:10 |
| Vantrax | hrm, from the wiki: We are planning on two kinds of materials for a given course. The first is a set of materials which closely follow the lesson topics, including challanges, further information and so on, this is the standard course materials that will be conducted by a trainer. The second part is background materials, information about topics which people will need to understand in order to grasp what they are going to be doing in a l | 02:28 |
| Vantrax | esson. This could be generated information or information already present in the wiki and help documentation and some topics my only require one part. | 02:28 |
| Vantrax | is that still valid? | 02:28 |
| Vantrax | probably needs to be updated to include offline materials via asciidoc | 02:28 |
| Vantrax | or pdf i guess | 02:29 |
| BiosElement | I'm not sure how valid it is but I can tell you that as far as I know, it hasn't been taken into consideration with the asciidoc formatting. pleia2 would probably know better then I would. | 02:36 |
| Vantrax | It was written back at the start of the project, but i think it needs to change to cater for the offline options | 02:44 |
| Vantrax | BiosElement, I hear your the man for asciidoc, any chance you can prepare a tute on how it works | 02:44 |
| BiosElement | Vantrax: Well I could make a quick guide to it but the problem is without the proper formatting it won't be anything more then the commands to compile asciidoc and a link to the markup page. | 02:46 |
| Vantrax | what do you recommend then? | 02:47 |
| BiosElement | Well currently doctormo and I are holding everything up. And I'm waiting on doctormo's revised system so I can't do much. But I'll make up a quick Getting Started with AsciiDoc at least. | 02:48 |
| Vantrax | that would be a nice start | 02:54 |
| Vantrax | I know that people are interested in it, just dont really know alot about it yet | 02:54 |
| BiosElement | Yeah, I'm not quite sure where doctormo's at with it >.> | 02:55 |
| Vantrax | yeah, i havent been able to catch him for a few days | 02:58 |
| BiosElement | Well I've had a cold so I was rather outta it for a bit. >.< | 03:01 |
| BiosElement | Vantrax: this is a 'very' rough draft but it should help. http://paste.ubuntu.com/298730/ | 03:01 |
| BiosElement | I'm also working on a python script to compile asciidoc files so course creators won't ever have to actually enter commandline. | 03:02 |
| Vantrax | very nice, the easier it is the better it will be | 03:07 |
| BiosElement | Exactly. | 03:09 |
| Vantrax | sounds like you have it all sorted, nice work | 03:10 |
| BiosElement | Well that's the idea. Lemme know if you try it out. FYI that paste is a valid AsciiDoc file. | 03:12 |
| Vantrax | hrm, you reference pdf, but dont say how to export to pdf | 03:15 |
| BiosElement | Nope, it's a bit trickier but I did it a few times during testing. I just haven't re-installed the packages yet. | 03:17 |
| Vantrax | ok | 03:23 |
| Vantrax | just the first question i had after reading it | 03:23 |
| BiosElement | IIRC pdf's need converting asciidoc to latex and latex to pdf. But the results were good anyway. And apparently asciidoc to pdf support is also working but I don't remember how >.> | 03:24 |
| d33d | I'm back | 03:30 |
| Saj0577 | welcome back d33d still here still not in bed i know lol | 03:34 |
| d33d | Saj0577, slacker. | 03:35 |
| Saj0577 | hehe. | 03:35 |
| d33d | who wants to give me a tour of moodle? | 03:35 |
| d33d | one sec, i have to put my clothes back on. | 03:35 |
| d33d | JUST KIDDING. | 03:36 |
| * Saj0577 is worried | 03:36 | |
| d33d | was it doc? | 03:37 |
| Saj0577 | it was c profitt | 03:37 |
| d33d | cprofitt, are you awake? | 03:38 |
| cprofitt | yes | 03:41 |
| cprofitt | but headed off to sleep | 03:46 |
| cprofitt | night all | 03:46 |
| BiosElement | Wow, I've just noticed the Ars Technica comments are nearly slashdot/4chan quality...>.> I can see why they're reluctent to make linux posts often now... | 04:22 |
| pleia2 | the internet became a much better place when I decided to stop reading user comments | 04:32 |
| pleia2 | (I still do sometimes, usually regret it) | 04:33 |
| BiosElement | Heh, True. One "person" just claimed picasa had no linux alternative...Erm, I'm pretty sure picasa was ported and even if it wasn't digikam is awesome >.> | 04:33 |
| pleia2 | I quite like f-spot | 04:34 |
| pleia2 | and picasa for linux runs in a wine wrapper | 04:34 |
| pleia2 | you download the linux version from google, they put the wine wrapper on it | 04:34 |
| BiosElement | Eh, I "like" f-spot but it just kinda felt clunky for me. And I thought so. | 04:35 |
| pleia2 | yeah, I hear the clunky complaint about fspot a lot | 04:35 |
| BiosElement | Figures. Sad thing is I can't even think of anything to improve it. | 04:37 |
| BiosElement | Reading these comments reminds me of why I finally installed ubuntu. Lost the bloody driver disks. Ubuntu however doesn't have any problems. >.> | 04:40 |
| BiosElement | And I must admit, I never knew that nearly every single ars reader was an "open source developer and contributor". Strange that I've yet to read what projects they work on... *cough* | 04:45 |
| paultag | pleia2, BiosElement, do you have greasemonky? | 04:45 |
| BiosElement | paultag: I've used it, but I don't have it currently. Why? | 04:45 |
| pleia2 | nope | 04:46 |
| paultag | pleia2, BiosElement, http://www.julien-oster.de/projects/feyntube/ | 04:46 |
| paultag | pleia2, BiosElement, get greasemonky. The internet becomes better with that plugin | 04:46 |
| paultag | pleia2, BiosElement, turns all youtube comments into Richard Feyn quotes | 04:46 |
| BiosElement | hahaha | 04:46 |
| Vantrax | oohhh I like it | 04:46 |
| pleia2 | I don't use firefox :\ | 04:47 |
| paultag | brilliant :) | 04:47 |
| paultag | pleia2, aww | 04:47 |
| BiosElement | What 'do' you use pleia2? | 04:47 |
| paultag | pleia2, port greasemonky to browser x over there | 04:47 |
| pleia2 | BiosElement: the chromium linux build | 04:47 |
| BiosElement | pleia2: Ahh, Nice. I was playing with that before I swapped to kubuntu. | 04:47 |
| Vantrax | pleia2 same here | 04:48 |
| pleia2 | BiosElement: nice and fast with javascript rendering, which is nice because I spend most of my day in gmail and goog reader | 04:48 |
| BiosElement | pleia2: Yep. Only reason I didn't use it as primary was I have too many firefox extensions to go without. >.> | 04:49 |
| pleia2 | yeah, I never used many | 04:49 |
| BiosElement | It's a tad clunky on kde but not 'too' bad. I'm loving the technical basis of kde but if they don't get a good browser, it's not going to get far. >.< | 04:52 |
| swoody | Good morning Learn-eritos :) | 14:46 |
| doctormo | hello swoody | 15:41 |
| swoody | how is the day treating you, doctormo ? | 15:41 |
| doctormo | Well, I had a bit of a tricky heart, got up early (3am?) to get some asperin, but we were out. | 15:42 |
| swoody | doctormo, ouch, sorry to hear that :( | 15:42 |
| doctormo | I wanted to make some breakfast to try and wake up some more, but the kitchen was a dump, so I had to just overhaul it (and I do mean, take everything off the counter, clean and put things back) | 15:42 |
| doctormo | Still haven't eaten, lol | 15:42 |
| swoody | haha | 15:43 |
| swoody | well that stinks :/ | 15:43 |
| doctormo | I started that at about 7am, just finished | 15:44 |
| swoody | wow, that sounds like it was fun ;) | 15:44 |
| swoody | but that's why I got myself a nice Greek girl ;) | 15:45 |
| swoody | she loves cooking, and takes out her stress from work by cleaning :D | 15:45 |
| doctormo | Proving once again that I am the embodyment of light arseburgers and OCD all rolled into one package. | 15:45 |
| swoody | haha, well I'm sure it's in much better shape now | 15:45 |
| doctormo | OK so my geeky _wife_ will cook, loves to, loves to bake and make the most amazing food. But has some kind of blind spot for tidy. | 15:46 |
| swoody | haha | 15:46 |
| pleia2 | oh goodie, do greek boys clean too? | 15:46 |
| doctormo | Although she does go mental at me for moving things, even if the way I reorder things takes up 10% of the space. | 15:46 |
| swoody | pleia2, no idea, you'd have to ask one ;) | 15:46 |
| pleia2 | k | 15:46 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 15:47 |
| swoody | try #ubuntu-gr :D | 15:47 |
| pleia2 | I'm sure that would go over so well :) | 15:47 |
| swoody | haha, I could only imagine... | 15:47 |
| doctormo | It would be an interesting social experiment. | 15:47 |
| swoody | haha, I think 'interesting' is an understatement, but I would like to witness it :) | 15:54 |
| swoody | pleia2, also, I want to thank you for your support and kind words last night :) | 15:55 |
| pleia2 | swoody: of course :) you do great work | 15:55 |
| swoody | well thank you. Coming from you, that's a very nice compliment :) | 15:56 |
| pleia2 | you're quite welcome | 15:56 |
| doctormo | What happened last night? | 16:19 |
| pleia2 | swoody became an ubuntu member | 16:20 |
| doctormo | Congratulations swoody | 16:29 |
| swoody | thank you doctormo :D | 16:29 |
| doctormo | Now you can get a CD | 16:29 |
| doctormo | :-P | 16:29 |
| swoody | a CD? | 16:31 |
| doctormo | It's ok, it's a in joke with the LoCo contacts list | 16:32 |
| swoody | ah, ok :) | 16:33 |
| d33d | hello world | 17:40 |
| d33d | Saj0577, ping - come back and wake up | 17:42 |
| * ZachK_ imitates world, waves hello to d33d | 17:42 | |
| d33d | ZachK_, hey what's up? | 17:42 |
| ZachK_ | not much my mahn | 17:42 |
| d33d | do you know much about Bzr? | 17:43 |
| ZachK_ | ah no | 17:43 |
| ZachK_ | don't know what that | 17:43 |
| ZachK_ | is | 17:43 |
| d33d | bazarr? | 17:44 |
| ZachK_ | not familiar..know the name | 17:44 |
| d33d | ah. that's ok. | 17:44 |
| d33d | so ZachK_ what do you do? Where do you fit in to the #ubnuntu-learning crowd? | 17:44 |
| ZachK_ | d33d, well doc work mainly..... | 17:45 |
| ZachK_ | d33d, here's my wiki... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Zachk18 | 17:45 |
| d33d | ncie | 17:45 |
| d33d | ZachK_, can you explain zenix? | 17:52 |
| swoody | hello d33d and ZachK_ :) | 17:52 |
| d33d | swoody, waaasssuuupppp!!! (still love it after 9 years) | 17:53 |
| ZachK_ | d33d, zenix? it's by bodhi_zazen ....what more do you need to know | 17:53 |
| swoody | d33d, haha, not too much, thank you :) | 17:53 |
| swoody | and you? | 17:53 |
| d33d | sorry - <=== newb? i need to know what it is. | 17:54 |
| d33d | ZachK_, Might i become a young padawan learner? | 17:54 |
| ZachK_ | d33d, on what? | 17:55 |
| ZachK_ | d33d, the bt team? | 17:55 |
| d33d | idk - just says you're a mentor on your wiki | 17:55 |
| ZachK_ | oh.. | 17:55 |
| d33d | yeah, bt. i guess. | 17:55 |
| ZachK_ | pm me | 17:55 |
| doctormo | d33d: welcome back | 18:17 |
| d33d | doctormo, :D | 18:20 |
| doctormo | d33d: So, what is it you would like to do? | 18:21 |
| d33d | doctormo, do i have to choose? | 18:22 |
| d33d | haha. | 18:22 |
| d33d | I want it ALL! | 18:22 |
| d33d | i'm a dirty american | 18:22 |
| d33d | doctormo, are you open to constructive criticisim? | 18:31 |
| d33d | doctormo, heading out for lunch however - I think something like this needs to be included when newbies are being taught the command line. http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2002/crapva.jpg | 18:43 |
| doctormo | d33d: We can include something like that, I'd want to draw one slightly differently, but it's a good idea to include. | 18:57 |
| doctormo | woot! my tiny toon adventures came through netflix! now for some serious unwinding. | 19:12 |
| d33d | so it looks like no one is doing the structuring of the content? | 20:41 |
| pleia2 | everyone is | 20:57 |
| pleia2 | we do it on the wiki, it evolves as people tweak it | 20:57 |
| pleia2 | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-learning/2009-October/000067.html | 20:57 |
| pleia2 | helps | 20:57 |
| swoody | pleia2, so for right now, are you still looking to just gather links for the 'How to Use Ubuntu' section? | 21:27 |
| swoody | Is there much else that I could tackle at this point? | 21:28 |
| pleia2 | swoody: that and we're starting to organize the sections some | 21:28 |
| pleia2 | it's all just ideas tossed up on a wiki right now, we want to start making the structure so it makes sense | 21:29 |
| swoody | pleia2, how do you mean? Just trying to avoid over-lap with the structure? | 21:29 |
| pleia2 | swoody: moving items around on the wiki | 21:29 |
| swoody | ah, ok. | 21:30 |
| pleia2 | if you want to start on the desktop topics, that's cool | 21:30 |
| swoody | pleia2, moving them around? I'm not quite sure what you're going for with that :/ | 21:31 |
| pleia2 | swoody: to have an actual structure for the course, right now the list is just a bunch of ideas | 21:32 |
| swoody | pleia2, ok, so you're looking to actually start creating 'outlines' for each topic? And fleshing them out a bit? | 21:33 |
| pleia2 | swoody: yep :) | 21:34 |
| swoody | pleia2, ah, ok. So basically just saying what's going to be in each topic? | 21:34 |
| pleia2 | well, the rough ideas tossed on the wiki now say what is going to be there, we're looking for actual structure now | 21:36 |
| pleia2 | like "desktop basics should go before how to use open office" | 21:36 |
| swoody | So say with 'handling files w/ command line' you'd just want the different commands that would be covered? | 21:36 |
| swoody | ah, ok. I think I get what you're saying :) | 21:37 |
| swoody | so you just want to re-organize it by what order topics should go in? | 21:37 |
| swoody | pleia2, are the topics set as they are, or might it be a good idea to merge a couple topics?... | 21:47 |
| swoody | like possibly including 'connecting to the internet' with 'Shopping, chatting, and email'? | 21:47 |
| pleia2 | swoody: merge away :) | 21:48 |
| swoody | pleia2, sounds good :) | 21:48 |
| swoody | pleia2, definitely not final-draft, but let me know what you think | 22:41 |
| swoody | (when you have the time) | 22:41 |
| swoody | I think I can cut out some of the details of some sections... | 22:46 |
| swoody | (i.e. the device sections) | 22:46 |
| Vantrax | doctormo, nice work with the ubuntu marketing emails | 23:25 |
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