ajmitchnot enough people use some of these packages or hit the appropriate code paths to trigger the bug yet, I guess00:00
ScottKNo doubt.00:00
ScottKSounds like SRU material at this point in any case.00:00
ajmitchprobably, but a patch needs to be found before we can even consider that00:01
ajmitchRC is tomorrow, isn't it?00:01
zookoDoes anyone know what patch in Python changed the behavior of the __doc__ property?00:01
directhexokay, i give up. is it actually possible to change timezone on karmic? changing it in Administration/Time and Date doesn't help - it'll always be shown as blank next time you run it00:02
lifelesszooko: how was it changed?00:02
ajmitchzooko: the impression I got was that it's an upstream change, I haven't looked for it though00:03
ScottKajmitch: Yes.  Tomorrow.00:03
* ScottK keeps filing removal bugs ...00:04
zookolifeless: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/boost1.38/+bug/457688 claims that Python 2.6.3 (upstream) changed the behavior of the __doc__ property compared to Python
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/457688)00:05
zookoSince the Python upstream folks are currently working on putting out a 2.6.4 whose raison d'etre is to undo regressions that were introduced in Python 2.6.3, I thought they should know.00:05
ajmitchclosest I can find in 2.6.3 release notes is http://bugs.python.org/issue589000:06
lifelesszooko: ugh00:06
ajmitchlifeless: I heard you'll be visiting chch for pycon soon?00:11
zookoajmitch: thanks00:12
lifelessajmitch: yup00:14
ajmitchit should be a good weekend, even sold out ahead of deadline00:15
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zookoOkay Barry Warsaw says he thinks this isn't a regression in Python, as in its instead a bug in Boost.00:55
ajmitchzooko: thanks, useful to know :)01:36
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wrapstergeser: please look at this issue.. its the same thing that i've put up yday.. but now i actually tried adding the -L/usr/lib/amd64 to SunOS5.11_i86pc.mk file(it does exist) but still no changes.. I cannot see it in the cmd line.. is there a way you can tell me where I need to look for it?07:48
wrapstergeser: my mistake.. didnt read it welll.07:51
secret901Why is Songbird not installable via Synaptic?08:40
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wrapsterthe -L option in gcc is used to tell where the libs are going to be placed right? -L/usr/lib , implies that all the generated libs will be placed in the /usr/lib dir?08:48
sorenwrapster: No.08:51
sorenwrapster: gcc is just the compiler. It doesn't install anything anywhere.08:51
wrapsteroh yeah... sorry about that...08:54
wrapstergot confused.08:54
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HewHi MOTU's. Nexuiz 2.5.2-1 has just been packaged by Debian. This is a major change over 2.4.2-1 which has been in Ubuntu since Intrepid. It's unfortunate that this has happened so late in the cycle, but I just wanted to check if there is still any chance in getting a sync to Ubuntu. Bug 355854.10:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 355854 in nexuiz "Please upgrade to nexuiz 2.5.2" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35585410:39
LaneyHew: apparently we are easy with FFes for games10:41
Laneysubscribe the release team10:42
HewLaney, that is excellent news! I will do a FFe and subscribe them now, thanks.10:43
LaneyHew: it doesn't look like the data has been packaged though10:43
Laney# nexuiz/i386 unsatisfiable Depends: nexuiz-data (>= 2.5.2)10:44
Hewhmm ok, I guess I'll keep watching out for that one10:44
Laneyyou can ask the debian games team if you like10:45
Hewsebner, do you know what the situation is with nexuiz-data, and what the chances are of getting Nexuiz 2.5.2 into Karmic?10:50
geserHew: see bug #45752211:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 457522 in nexuiz-data "[FFe] Please sync nexuiz-data 2.5.2-1 from Debian(Unstable)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45752211:27
geserand bug #45752511:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 457525 in nexuiz "[FFe] Please sync nexuiz 2.5.2-1 from Debian(Unstable)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45752511:28
Laneythat exists?11:28
Laneypts must be lagging then11:28
Lazysorry to bother you guys but is there a chance to get bug #372040 fixed before final?11:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 372040 in electricsheep "Request Package of electricsheep 2.7 due to 2.6 EOL" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37204011:35
Lazyit should be simple sync from debian11:35
siretart`Hew: nexuiz has not been even ACCEPTED yet in debian11:42
siretart`(the uploader is sitting behind me...)11:42
Laneywhat did sebner build?!11:43
amarillionIs there documentation somewhere on packaging & mime type registration?12:07
amarillionOr: how do I let my package register a mime-type?12:07
hyperairamarillion: apt-get source something which registers a mime type?12:34
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amarillionhyperair, ok thanks, but that page basically refers to "man update-mime", and that man page is really very terse12:50
amarillionI guess there isn't a nice document with examples anywhere12:50
hyperairtake a look in /usr/lib/mime/packages/12:50
amarillionOk, that helps too. I'll give it a try12:52
sebnerLaney: hmm?13:26
sebnerLaney: <Laney> -what did sebner build?!13:27
Laneyoh, that data package which hasn't been uploaded yet13:27
Laneywell *now* it has ;)13:27
* sebner lives in the future :P13:28
sebnerLaney: I used the orig tarball and the debian folder from svn trunk (which is the same folder as the regular package upload. no changes would have been made so I used that)13:29
sebnerLaney: -data should have appeared yesterday though but 967MB is not something you can upload in some minutes ^^13:32
Laneypoor mirrors :(13:32
Teddy_Security bug #551907 needs some love.  A patch exists. (It is fixed upstream and is waiting for a sponsor in Debian.)13:44
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 551907 could not be found13:44
Teddy_Security bug #457709  needs some love.  A patch exists. (It is fixed upstream and is waiting for a sponsor in Debian.)13:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 457709 in mandos "mandos-client adds unnecessary files to initrd" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45770913:45
james_wdebian bug 55190713:45
ubottuDebian bug 551907 in mandos-client "mandos-client adds unnecessary files to initrd" [Critical,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/55190713:45
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rhpot1991siretart: ping, I hate to bother you about ffmpeg again but there seems to be a pretty big issue where it fails to encode mp3 as well16:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 401406 in lame "[Karmic] libmp3lame fails in converting audio" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 439083 in lame "MP3 audio encoding fails with "output buffer too small" using ffmpeg (dup-of: 401406)" [Undecided,New]16:04
wrapstergeser: http://pastie.org/665167 i still get that issue..16:14
wrapstergeser: could you please look at the cmd line .. i tried with -L/usr/lib/amd6416:15
wrapstergeser: yet the same issue.. pls help16:15
jfcgauss_hi. on ubuntu 9.04 having apache2-worker installed, please check out the output of16:17
jfcgauss_ldd -r -u /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_* 2>&1 | grep -v 'undefined symbol:\|lookup error:\|direct dependencies:\|^$'16:17
jfcgauss_there are some unnecassary dependencies of apache2 modules16:18
TheOpenSourcererAm I completely daft to want to try and package FreePBX for Ubuntu?16:28
TheOpenSourcererThere are some instructions for building debs here: http://www.freepbx.org/v2/wiki/DebPackages but I wonder why no-one has done it before.16:29
zuljfcgauss_, please open a bug in launchpad thanks16:30
geserwrapster: this is from the 32bit build or from the 64bit build?16:41
wrapsterfrom the 64bit build.16:41
wrapstergeser: one moment i'll paste the rules file.16:41
geserwrapster: I wonder about the "i386 output" at the end of the line. I've no experience with cross-building but it looks like it wants to build an i386 lib instead of a amd64 lib16:43
wrapstergeser: http://pastie.org/66520316:43
jfcgauss_im logged in, but somehow failed to find "File new bug" link on https://bugs.launchpad.net/, not my 1st bug report. did something change :?16:44
wrapstercould that be an issue with the flags being set.. I mean originally they were for 32 so flags set appropriately..16:44
geserwrapster: have you managed to build the 64bit lib by hand? just take the source, do what's needed to get it build and don't look at packaging yet16:44
wrapstergeser: no..16:45
wrapsteri have not done that yet...16:45
wrapsteri have the sources though.16:45
geseronce you know how to get it build successfully you can think about how to package it16:45
wrapsterso shall i just yank everything out for 32bit and only do the 64bit ones. first16:46
geserwrapster: yes, but you don't need to touch the packaging for it at all, just take a copy of the source and call make (with the needed variables, etc.) on it16:47
jmarsdenjfcgauss_: Yes, things changed.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs16:47
wrapstermake in the sense how?16:47
wrapstershould i go into each dir and run make16:47
geserimportant is only that you know that you can successfully build a 64bit lib16:48
wrapsteror make -f debian/rules16:48
wrapstersomething like that?16:48
geserjust take the make call from your rules files (make -C mozilla/security/nss nss_build_all MOZILLA_CLIENT=1 ...)16:49
geserlike you would build it without packaging (for installing it in /usr/local), but just the compiling16:51
geseronce you know how you can build it you can start thinking what you need to put into debian/rules16:51
quidnuncIs there a way to get a list of all the packages that have a given package depends on?16:54
quidnuncSorry, I mean to say:16:54
quidnuncIs there a way to get a list of all the packages that have a given package as a dependency?16:55
geserapt-cache rdepende $pkgname16:55
jfcgauss_just filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/45827416:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 458274 in apache2 "unnecassary dependencies of apache2 modules" [Undecided,New]16:56
wrapstergeser: interesting..16:56
jpdshighvoltage: -meeting? :)17:04
bddebianHeya gang17:10
bddebiansistpoty|work, av`, ScottK, iulian: Thanks for lordsawar!17:11
sistpoty|workhi bddebian, and thanks to you for it :)17:11
ScottKbddebian: No.  Thank you for your contribution to Ubuntu.17:11
Laneyyou sexy beast bddebian!17:12
bddebianHeh, heya Laney17:12
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imbrandonmorn folks17:50
av`bddebian, np ;)18:11
wrapstergeser: thanks for your help i was able to narrow down much further...http://pastie.org/66535918:15
wrapstergeser: i still have errors though18:15
wrapstergeser: i dont quite understand what that means.. is it unablet to use the plc4 libraray? for 64bit or something?18:16
geserwrapster: yes, it wants to try to link your 64bit .o files to 32bit libs, this won't work. You need a 64bit variant of plc4 and use the correct values for -L as I assume /lib/ and /usr/lib holds the 32bit libs18:18
wrapsterok will look for it in /usr/lib/amd64 one moment18:18
wrapsterthere is no plc4 version of it.18:19
geserso you need to first build a 64bit variant of libpcl4 before you can continue here18:19
geserthe same applies for libplds4, libnspr4, libthread, libnsl, libsocket, libposix4, libdl and libc18:20
wrapsteryeah apparenlty dpkg -S libplc4 ---> nspr4,nspr4-0d so i guess i need the 64bit variants.18:21
wrapstergeser: i cant find this pkg on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ (hardy) weird18:22
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geserwrapster: it's there: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/libnspr4-0d18:24
wrapsteralso could you tell me the difference between libnspr4 and libnspr4-0d18:24
wrapsterwhat does that 0d and 1d mean?18:24
geserit's the library version18:25
wrapsterok but how do i know if its the 64bit or the 32 one.. coz i have nspr4/4-0d/4-dev installed18:26
wrapsteryet this is cribbing.18:26
geseryou can ask "file" what it thinks about a file, but unless you (or someone else) made a 64bit variant of this package, I assume it's 32bit only18:27
wrapsterok so i need to compile the 64bit ones for all these.. OMG18:28
micahgwrapster: are you trying to install flash?18:28
geserwrapster: yes, you need them all to build libnss in 64bit (I didn't check how many different source packages that are)18:29
wrapstergeser: ok i'll do it.18:30
geserwrapster: do you have a libc alread in /usr/lib/amd64?18:31
wrapsterlibc.so / .so.118:31
geserat least something18:32
wrapsteranything i can do?18:33
frandieguezSorry for the noise... but when karmic rc will be released?18:33
joaopintofrandieguez, support for karmic is on #ubuntu+1 :P18:33
geserwrapster: repeat your work for nspr18:33
geserwrapster: the needed libs come from nspr and the libc package (I hope if you have a libc.so.1 in 64bit that you have also the other libs from it in 64bit)18:34
wrapsteryeah libc.so.1 is there.. i'll first start with nspr now..18:35
wrapsterhope it compiles cleanly!!18:35
wrapster-I/usr/lib/amd64 to include the libs right...18:53
geser-L but yes18:56
wrapstergeser: yeah thats the only issue i guess. coz it came upto dpkg_shlibdeps: then failed as it cannot locate libc.so.1(64bit)18:59
MTeck-ricerI'm trying to remember the name of an app that shows all processes in rc in a table type display so you can enable/disable them - any ideas what that's calls?19:04
geserwrapster: check if there is an option to tell dpkg_shlibdeps also into other dirs for libs19:06
wrapstergeser: snip from  man dh_shlibdeps19:13
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wrapster-ldirectory[:directory:directory:..]  With recent versions of dpkg-shlibdeps, this option is generally not needed. Before dpkg-shlibdeps is run, LD_LIBRARY_PATH will have added to it the specified directory (or directories --   separate with colons). With recent versions of dpkg-shlibdeps, this is mostly only useful for packages that      build multiple flavors of the same library, or other situations where the library is installed into a direc-    19:13
wrapsterso i did dh_shlibdeps -a -l/usr/lib/amd64 -->still fails19:13
wrapsteri think i should probally look at LDFLAGS and see where -L is coming from and add this tehre..19:15
wrapsterbut thats a daunting task ...19:15
wrapsterbtw im just curious to know one thing.. are these pkgs that insignificat that there are no 64bit versions of it?19:16
wrapsterbeg to differ :)19:16
sorenwrapster: Which packages?19:18
sorenI've told you already. there are 64 bit versions of them.19:19
gesersoren: he is building for nexenta19:20
geserand tries to generate a package with i386 and amd64 libs19:20
sorenIn the same package?19:20
geseryes, cross-compiling on i38619:21
gesersimilar to what we do it some amd64 package (e.g. libz) but the other way around19:21
sorenSounds like... uh... "fun".19:21
wrapstersoren: thanks19:22
* soren know next to nothing about nexenta, but..19:22
sorenDoes all packages need to build this way?19:22
wrapstergeser: if i do finish this up.. im going to throw a virtual party exclusively to you... you only19:22
wrapstersoren: no.. a few of them thats all...19:23
* jdong is curious how virtual parties are supposed to work :)19:23
wrapsterjdong: i dont know :P19:23
sorenwrapster: Why is that? Why does nss need to?19:23
wrapstergeser: but till then pls stick around and help me!!!!19:23
wrapstersoren: nss (which i want in 64bit) had a dep on .so thats generated out of nspr.19:24
wrapsterso nspr need to be built with 64 first to get that version of .so19:24
wrapsterthen i can use it19:24
sorenBut why do those two need to be built this special way?19:25
wrapstercoz i dont have the 64bit flavors of em19:31
geserwhat you need them for?19:31
geseror more precisely the libnss one19:32
wrapstergeser: this seems to never end... i managed to get over libc.so.1 now it says libgcc_s.so.1 is not availble...19:47
geserwrapster: who said that cross-compiling is easy?19:48
wrapsterits interesting as its neither in /usr/lib nor in /usr/lib/amd6419:48
sorenwrapster: Why do you (and only you) need 64 bit versions of libnss (and its dependencies) (and not every single other library and application)?19:49
wrapstersoren: its not that way.. apparently there are a few things that we need to replace as we are using 3rd party stuff and nss/nspr fit the bill...19:52
wrapsteri know its very very vague but thats all i can discuss.. Im sorry.19:52
wrapstergeser: ok nspr was successfully built.. but with some external hacking..19:59
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wrapsterI needed to set the LD_LIBRARY_FLAGS=/usr/lib/amd64:/lib/amd6419:59
wrapsterbut unable to find it within the pkg and see where I need to actually put it...19:59
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siretartrhpot1991: pong. please elaborate20:21
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rhpot1991siretart: if you look at the bugs I pasted they pretty much sum it up, trying to encode with libmp3lame causes a failure20:25
rhpot1991if you attempt to encode a video, it will encode the video itself, but then fail to encode the audio leaving you with corrupted videos20:25
siretartrhpot1991: comment #2 and #3 indicate that the issue is rather cosmetic20:26
rhpot1991siretart: thats not the case when I comes to video, I'm not sure if you are only doing audio20:27
siretartI see, but you say that installing the jaunty package in karmic fixes the issue, right?20:27
rhpot1991siretart: I have not tried that yet, wanted to ping you first to get an opinion20:28
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rhpot1991siretart: installing and testing now20:33
siretartrhpot1991: seems that marillat has some patches that might be worth trying out20:51
ScottKTheMuso: PowerPC seems to be doing reasonably well.  We have a Power PC live CD for Kubuntu right now.21:04
sebnerScottK: thanks for the ACKs :)21:05
ScottKsebner: No problem.  Thanks for working on it.21:05
ScottKPlenty of room for more FTBFS fixes everyone....21:05
ximionhi! I have a short question about library packaging:21:17
ximionI created a package project-core which contains a shared library and an essential binary, which is used by other tools of this project and uses the library itself. The lib is used in nearly every part of the project I package, but it can also be used by other tools. Now I get the lintian warning to rename project-core to match the library name. It is a bad idea to package a lib with data like images. Is it allowed to package a shared21:17
ximionlib with binary programs?21:17
geserdon't know if it's allowed, but it's a bad idea. what will you do if the API/ABI of the lib changes?21:41
rhpot1991siretart: that would be great, is that something you can get together and I can test for you, or what is the course of action?21:42
siretartrhpot1991: please test http://wiki.tauware.de/~siretart/upload-queue/libmp3lame0_3.98.2%2bdebian-0ubuntu2_i386.deb21:43
siretartrhpot1991: and report back to the bug, I can upload tomorrow then21:43
siretartneed some sleep now, good night21:43
rhpot1991siretart: any chance you have an amd64 build?21:43
rhpot1991if not its ok I'll get this dev box ready to go21:43
siretartI've placed the source package in the same directory, you can build it yourself21:44
rhpot1991ok thanks21:44
xzachtmxHi guys i think this is the place to ask a question i have... I am interested in contributing to ubuntu.  I have been using ubuntu for a while now and i have experience with programming with things such as python and c++ to make little applications as well as web applications.  So i think i can call myself technical.  Is debian packaging a good place to start?21:44
rhpot1991good night, and thanks for looking into it21:44
siretartxzachtmx: see the channel topic21:44
ximiongeser: Thanks, I will make separate packages22:10
TheMusoScottK: Right, although ubiquity is currently broken due to some weird toolchain stuff. Colin/myself have fixes lined up to go into final, that will make things work.22:27
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ScottKTheMuso: Great to hear.  It seems like the power pc port is looking up the last few cycles.22:55
TheMusoScottK: Yeah, which is a good thing.22:57
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