[04:48] <lamalex> Can the ubuntu one file sync follow symlinks?
[04:51] <lamalex> Also- I found the faq question but it links to a bug report that's been marked a dupe
[04:51] <lamalex> you guys should link it to the real report
[06:06] <Slam-er__> hellow, how do I delete all of my files off of the server?
[06:27] <Slam-er__> okay, I figured that out, but it seems to either not work, IE folders stay visible or it takes a really long time for the server to delete the files and then update the folder listings
[07:46] <b166er> anyone from ubuntuone dev team in here
[07:46] <b166er> ?
[07:47] <b166er> anyone know how to fix the not connecting problem?
[08:30] <magatz> i need an explanation: what happens when i upload a file from the web interface? if i check the ubuntuone folder on a diferent (authorized) machine, should i expect to see the new file uploaded?
[09:56] <diverse_izzue> hey guys. after a system reboot, i can (again) not connect to ubuntuone. turns out i have no password saved in my keyring anymore. this keeps happening. quitting and restarting the client opens a browser for re-authentication
[10:07] <aquarius> diverse_izzue, what happens after you re-authorise the computer you're on?
[10:29] <diverse_izzue> aquarius, what happens is that it works fine for a while.
[10:30] <diverse_izzue> it puts a key in the keyring
[10:30] <diverse_izzue> "ubuntuone token"
[10:38] <aquarius> OK
[10:40] <diverse_izzue> the key seems to disappear upon a reboot of the system
[10:41] <diverse_izzue> aquarius, is it possible that i have an old, messed up config ( i was one of the first testers)?
[10:41] <aquarius> diverse_izzue, um...I don't understand why the key disappears
[10:42] <aquarius> so, just so I understand this: you reauthorise your computer, and it works fine until you reboot, and then after the reboot there's no key and you have to reauthorise again?
[10:43] <diverse_izzue> aquarius, yes, so it seems
[10:43] <aquarius> diverse_izzue, OK. Suggestion: can you set Ubuntu One to not connect on startup, and then try rebooting?
[10:44] <diverse_izzue> aquarius, will do
[10:44] <aquarius> since the key's disappearing, one of two things is happening: either Ubuntu One is removing the key, or Ubuntu One isn't removing the key.
[10:44] <aquarius> if you set U1 to not connect on startup, then we should be able to tell the difference between the two :)
[10:44] <diverse_izzue> sounds logical to me :-)
[10:48] <diverse_izzue> so, aquarius, back after a reboot, key is still there, ubuntuone-client sits in tray, disconnected
[10:49] <aquarius> diverse_izzue, OK, so, Ubuntu One is removing the key, for some reason. That seems...weird.
[10:49] <aquarius> Now try connecting.
[10:49] <diverse_izzue> aquarius, via gui?
[10:49] <aquarius> yep, from the Ubuntu One applet's menu
[10:50] <diverse_izzue> works, key still there
[10:50] <diverse_izzue> hmmm
[10:50] <diverse_izzue> i swear it repeatedly disappeard over the past few days
[10:50] <aquarius> OK. So, the key is being removed when you start up, but not if Ubuntu One doesn't connect.
[10:50] <diverse_izzue> where was it ubuntuone stores the log files?
[10:50] <aquarius> Are you using Network Manager?
[10:51] <aquarius> log files are in ~/.cache/ubuntuone
[10:51] <diverse_izzue> aquarius, yes
[10:53] <diverse_izzue> aquarius, syncdaemon-exceptions.log contains stuff like: http://pastebin.com/ma4554de
[10:53] <aquarius> yeah, that's the syncdaemon looking in the keyring for your key and not finding it :)
[10:53] <aquarius> what I don't understand is why the key is being deleted
[10:54]  * diverse_izzue wonders as well
[10:54] <aquarius> can you file a bug? "Report a Problem" from the Ubuntu One applet menu, and attach your log files, and explain that it happens on reboot if Ubuntu One is set to connect on startup, but not if it doesn't?
[10:55] <aquarius> Having to manually connect is annoying, I know, but it should keep you running until someone who knows more about that area of the code than I do can look at the bug :)
[10:55] <diverse_izzue> aquarius, i will do, after verifying that that's really how it is
[10:55] <diverse_izzue> not sure the pattern is that simple
[10:56] <diverse_izzue> i also for a long time had an issue where it wouldn't autoconnect after the first start after system boot, but would do so after subsequent logins
[10:59] <aquarius> diverse_izzue, thanks for looking into this in detail!
[11:00] <diverse_izzue> sure
[11:05] <diverse_izzue> aquarius, another, minor thing. in the web-ui, filenames are truncated even if they would easily fit into a column of that width
[11:06] <diverse_izzue> also, why does it say "3 days, 1 month ago" instead of "one month, 3 days ago"
[15:00] <jblount> MEETING BEGINS
[15:01] <CardinalFang> dang!
[15:01] <dobey> bluffing
[15:01] <vds> me
[15:01] <jblount> Hi guys! What are you doing? If you want to be in the Desktop+ meeting, say so. "me" will get us started.
[15:01] <jblount> me
[15:01] <urbanape> me
[15:01] <aquarius> me
[15:01] <teknico> me
[15:01] <CardinalFang> me
[15:02] <urbanape> actually, kid emergency - cut that needs stitches. gotta run.
[15:02] <dobey> me
[15:02] <teknico> wow :-(
[15:02] <aquarius> er!
[15:02] <aquarius> that's not good:(
[15:03] <rodrigo_> me
[15:03] <CardinalFang> urbanape, $ man patch
[15:05] <teknico> patchman!
[15:06] <vds> shall I start
[15:06] <vds> ?
[15:07] <jblount> vds: Go for it
[15:07] <vds> DONE:managed to reproduce the  PQM environment and the failing test, fixed it and sent to PQM (the real one), filed a bug about watchdaemon to use the new controller API #458170 started  a new branch to fix it
[15:07] <vds> TODO: finish quickly the last branch
[15:07] <vds> BLOCKED: nope
[15:07] <vds> jblount: all you!
[15:07] <jblount> DONE: Got most of the copy changes done
[15:07] <jblount> TODO: Finish last few bugs: #452368 #402837, ask pfibiger to roll to edge
[15:07] <jblount> BLOCKED: Nope
[15:07] <jblount> aquarius: Go time
[15:08] <aquarius> ⚀ DONE: branch for bug #455539
[15:08] <aquarius> ⚁ TODO: help thisfred with _users deployment in u1couch; fix my unknown couch token; look at oauth-enabling twisted; make tomboy first-sync experience nicer
[15:08] <aquarius> ⚂ BLOCKED: still have no oauth token
[15:08] <aquarius> ⚃ BUG COUNT:https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~sil/+assignedbugs?field.tag=ubuntuone-karmic - 0 (!!)
[15:08] <aquarius> teknico, rock on
[15:08] <teknico> DONE: fixed display of choice field values in contact details (#456267); made branch that conditionally disables all contacts and notes urls for maintenance (#458062); reviewed one branch
[15:08] <teknico> TODO: more improvements to the contacts web UI (#456267); integrate the client-side code needed by delete buttons on repeatable sections of the contacts edit form (#439093)
[15:08] <teknico> BLOCK: none
[15:08] <teknico> next: CardinalFang
[15:08] <CardinalFang> DONE: testing karmic.  ran into confusing grub / grub2 bug.  filed one minor bug on desktopcouch.
[15:08] <CardinalFang> TODO: face duty.  testing.  get updated packages into karmic. Help with u1couch update, if needed (thisfred?).  write report of packaging mistake.
[15:08] <CardinalFang> BLOCKED: uploaders busy.  u1couch is wonky.
[15:09] <CardinalFang> dobey, man screen on!
[15:09] <dobey> ☺ DONE: triage, Fix issue with ssl import on Python 2.5
[15:09] <dobey> ☹ TODO: triage, bug fixes,
[15:09] <dobey> ☹ BLCK: None.
[15:10] <dobey> rodrigo_: su rollo
[15:10] <rodrigo_> • DONE: Copy/paste of contacts in evo-couchdb (https://bugs.launchpad.net/evolution-couchdb/+bug/451837). Continued looking at nested lists XML<->HTML problems. Submitted patched evo-couchdb for karmic
[15:10] <rodrigo_> • TODO: Talk to Ara about writing mago tests for evo-couchdb. Conflict resolver tool in pair tool. Look at becoming a MOTU (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers). openSUSE/Fedora packaging with aquarius. API documentation for couchdb-glib. Make sandy's snowy test suite work with our server (http://git.gnome.org/cgit/snowy/tree/api/tests.py). Discuss with jdo and aquarius about oauth token per app, not per machine?
[15:10] <rodrigo_> • BLOCKED: no
[15:10] <rodrigo_> no one next, right?
[15:11] <jblount> rodrigo_: Nope, thanks!
[15:11] <jblount> MEETING ENDS (someone go build me a meeting IRC bot)
[15:11] <rodrigo_> ok, rebooting then, brb
[15:35] <CardinalFang> I was using Chandler to juggle tasks, until it disappeared a few months ago.  Is there a similar to-do list in karmic?
[15:37]  * CardinalFang pokes at Tasque
[15:37] <dobey> chandler? as a to-do list?
[15:37] <dobey> heavy stuff.
[15:37] <CardinalFang> It's wonderful.
[15:38] <dobey> i suppose it's wonderful like using evolution for tasks
[15:38] <CardinalFang> Hrm, haven't tried evolution since 2005. ...
[15:48] <barlas> joshuahoover, It started working after maintenance
[15:49] <joshuahoover> barlas: excellent!
[16:16] <ukev> urbanape, are the bindwood fixes now in the karmic repo? in which?
[16:17] <ukev> (concerning https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bindwood/+bug/443121)
[16:22] <dobey> ukev: committed != released. the fix is in bzr, but not packaged yet
[16:22] <ukev> hm ok, how can I see when it is packaged?
[16:26] <dobey> you are subscribed to the bug i presume?
[16:26] <ukev> yes
[16:26] <ukev> ok, there will be another comment like "package created" ?
[16:26] <dobey> when it gets uploaded to karmic, it will be changed to "Fix Released" by launchpad, and have a comment added with the debian/changelog entry
[16:31] <ukev> ah ok, thank you very much, I'm trying to find my way into ubuntu-dev but not all things are clear :)
[16:33] <dobey> sure
[16:33]  * dobey should probably apply to be an ubuntu dev soon
[16:34] <jcastro> ukev: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers
[16:35] <dobey> but for now... lunch and all that entails
[16:36] <ukev> :)
[16:59] <MagicFab> how can I troubleshoot ubuntu one connections ? My desktop client in karmic hangs with a grayed "Connecting".. same with the applet.
[17:00] <joshuahoover> MagicFab: hi
[17:00] <joshuahoover> MagicFab: if you copy and paste ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/oauth-login.log to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and put the link here, i'll take a look
[17:03] <MagicFab> geez. Why would thatbe even linked in/ var/log ?
[17:04] <MagicFab> "Unable to contact NetworkManager" duh
[17:04] <MagicFab> I use iwcd.
[17:07]  * MagicFab files a bug
[17:10] <MagicFab> joshuahoover, thanks a lot.
[17:10] <joshuahoover> MagicFab: dobey is the one who knows more about this and he's @ lunch right now...when he's back i'll check on if we have a way to work around this or not...i think there may be
[17:13] <joshuahoover> MagicFab: check out dobey's comment (#4) in bug 456292
[17:22] <joshuahoover> dobey: when you're back can you look at bug 457130 ...it's baffling me and the bug above could use another look as we got some feedback ^^
[17:54] <dobey> hmm, ok
[18:33] <Slam-er> hello, are there known issues with deleting folders from the web interface? It currently does not seem to work very consistently for me.
[18:42] <joshuahoover> Slam-er: hi, let me test right now
[18:43] <joshuahoover> Slam-er: i deleted a couple files from different folders just now...it was a little delayed (maybe 5 seconds between when the delete overlay disappears and the file appears
[18:46] <khtaam> Slam-er, it says on Ubuntu One's identica that the services are not available right now due to server improvements
[18:49] <dobey> khtaam: just notes and contacts
[18:49] <dobey> khtaam: file sharing should be ok
[18:52] <khtaam> dobey, i can not connect right now, i can see the web interface for the files and notes, but files wont sync
[18:53] <dobey> khtaam: won't sync with the desktop client, or you can't upload via web?
[18:54] <khtaam> dobey, won't sync with desktop, nothing happens when i hit the connect button in nautilus
[18:54] <khtaam> trying to restart one of my computers
[18:54] <dobey> it doesn't go grey for second or so and then turn to "Disconnnect"?
[18:54] <khtaam> no
[18:55] <dobey> hrmm
[18:55] <khtaam> just "connect"
[18:55] <joshuahoover> khtaam: can you put your ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/oauth-login.log file in http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and paste the url here?
[18:55] <khtaam> ok
[19:01] <khtaam> there are no errors in the log for today, and it seems to work on my netbook that i just restarted
[19:01] <khtaam> guess i have to restart ubuntu one on my desktop aswell
[19:06] <khtaam> yes, killed the ubuntuone-syncdaemon and started it again and it works. on to try the contacts syncing :-)
[19:07] <joshuahoover> khtaam: great! note that contacts syncing is not complete yet...we should have the syncing with the cloud working in the next day or so
[19:07] <khtaam> ok
[19:14] <Slam-er> joshuahoover, thanks for the reply, sorry, I was busy at the moment
[19:15] <joshuahoover> Slam-er: np
[19:16] <Slam-er> The directories I am trying to delete have a couple of gigs worth of data
[19:16] <Slam-er> they refuse to delete though, sometimes they disappear but if I re-login they come back
[19:21] <joshuahoover> Slam-er: ok, i'm going to check on it further and check with some other folks to see if there might be some changes going on that would cause this problem
[19:27] <Slam-er_> joshuahoover, again, sorry, my network like's to drop me off, any ideas on directories with lots of data not deleting?
[19:28] <joshuahoover> Slam-er_: no, are you only seeing the issue when deleting directories (with lots of files) via the web?
[19:28] <Slam-er_> yes, I have a documents folder with thousands of documents and lot's of sub folders
[19:30] <Slam-er_> it refuses to go away, I'm basically trying to clear the server and resyncing my two laptops because I was getting lot's of conflicts with partial uploads from the laptops
[19:30] <joshuahoover> Slam-er_: ok, that's good to know...and you click the trash icon for the parent folder and then the folder never disappears or something else?
[19:30] <Slam-er_> yes, I click the confirm button to delete, the dialog go's away but the folder stays there
[19:30] <Slam-er_> if I reload the page sometimes the folder will go away, but if I re-login it will reappear
[19:33] <joshuahoover> Slam-er_: ok, can you file a bug for this problem? it's likely to take a little while to troubleshoot: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+filebug
[19:34] <Slam-er_> Sure, I can do that
[19:35] <Slam-er_> Something that would be nice would be an easy way to just clear all of the files on the server with the click of a single button
[19:40] <joshuahoover> Slam-er_: that's a possibility though we'd need to be very careful about implementing something like that
[19:41] <Slam-er_> I could see that happening, I guess one question I have though is how are you supposed to delete files? If I remove a folder from my Ubuntu One folder won't it just be re-downloaded from the server?
[19:42] <joshuahoover> Slam-er_: no, if you remove it from your computer, it will tell the server to delete the file/folder(s)
[19:43] <Slam-er_> what if I have it on two computers though? I'm trying to keep my wife's and I's laptops synced when we are seperated due to travel
[19:51] <joshuahoover> Slam-er_: if you have two computers sharing the same account, then it depends on the situation...if any of the deleted files on one are modified on the other, then ubuntu one will mark files as conflicts for you to address...otherwise it should delete files across both computers
[19:52] <Slam-er_> okay, I think I understand a little better now
[19:52] <Slam-er_> I'm almost done with writing the bug report, it appears that one directory has finally dropped off
[19:53] <Slam-er_> the other I have been trying to delete is still there.
[19:57] <Slam-er_> Okay, I posted the bug it is: Bug #458436
[19:58] <joshuahoover> thank you Slam-er_!
[19:58] <Slam-er_> I just changed the bug report to public