[04:10] <visitor1> hi channel
[04:10] <visitor1> anybody could please help me restoring my xfce desktop
[04:11] <visitor1> i have lost my right mouse button on desktop and the programm menu whis is normaly on the high left side
[04:13] <visitor1> it went wrong afetr installing a few packages, i tried to delete the stuff but to no avail
[06:53] <visitor1> hi people
[06:54] <visitor1> just managed some part of my problem, the right mouse click is working again on the desktop :)
[06:54] <cody-somerville> visitor1, Hi Visitor. Whats your problem? :)
[06:54] <visitor1> but i still have no applications menu on the task bar on top left
[06:55] <visitor1> hi cody-somerville
[06:56] <visitor1> had some trouble after installing a few packages
[06:57] <visitor1> the desktop didnt show any files and the taskbar produced errors
[06:57] <visitor1> the problem whis i have still is that the application menu doesnt show on the task bar
[07:10] <cody-somerville> Right click, click add new items
[07:10] <cody-somerville> then select Xfce Menu from the list and click add once more
[07:11] <visitor1> works, thanks a lot :)
[12:40] <homebrewcider> wonder if anyone can help me. on my server I'm trying to install a .deb file. says "requires installation of 15 packages" starts installing , then says "check your internet connection". I'm connectedd, cos same computer can apt-get update okay
[12:47] <cody-somerville> homebrewcider, try using a different mirror
[12:48] <homebrewcider> hmm, to downloiad the deb file?
[12:48] <cody-somerville> to download the dependencies
[12:48] <homebrewcider> ah okay, will try that
[13:11] <homebrewcider> cody, that worked, thanx
[13:14] <cody-somerville> np :)
[13:15] <knome> beep
[13:17] <knome> cody-somerville, should i eat some pizza or go home and make some bread?
[13:17] <cody-somerville> fuzzy, try again later.
[13:32] <ioka> hello
[13:33] <ioka> how can I find out what partitions do I have and their names so I can mount them?
[13:34] <cody-somerville> lshw should help
[13:34] <Sysi> that might be easiest with nautilus filemanager
[13:35] <Sysi> it can show them straight ahead
[13:36] <ioka> it does not show them
[13:36] <ioka> I do not have nautilius
[13:36] <Sysi> you can install it
[13:37] <Sysi> but that't just one way
[13:37] <Sysi> for me easiest
[13:37] <ioka> i'd like to find out the general knowledge for mounting
[13:37] <ioka> let's say I do not have a gui interface
[13:37] <ioka> only black terminal
[13:41] <cody-somerville> ioka, ls /sys/block
[13:42] <cody-somerville> ioka, that'll list all block devices
[13:48] <ioka> ok
[13:50] <ochosi> ioka, you can also ls /dev/ | grep sda (where "sda" is the device name of your hdd. you can find out via ls /sys/block)
[14:09] <ioka> how to mount partition and change the permissions on it?
[14:15] <ochosi> ioka, "man mount"
[14:42] <Pres-Gas> !mount
[14:46] <florian_> Hello everybody, why does my xfce-panel start and end several times after boot-up
[14:47] <likemindead> Yikes. That's no good. What version of Xubuntu?
[14:49] <florian_> ubuntu 9.04 with xcfe-desktop
[14:51] <likemindead> Ah. You installed xfce-desktop in Ubuntu. I'm not sure what to do there.
[14:52] <florian_> well, some weeks ago, almost everybody on this channel said there is no difference whether I have a "pure" xubuntu or "only" the xcfe-dektop.
[14:53] <likemindead> I've always had mixed results installing multiple desktop environments...
[14:53] <florian_> for example?
[14:59] <likemindead> Bugginess like you're describing.
[14:59] <likemindead> I think simply adding window managers is safer than adding entire desktop environments.
[15:00] <florian_> hm. would it be useful to deinstall the gnome-desktop?
[15:00] <florian_> what are window-managers?
[15:06] <likemindead> !window manager
[15:06] <likemindead> Hrm...
[15:06] <likemindead> http://www.ghacks.net/2008/12/09/get-to-know-linux-desktop-environment-vs-window-manager/
[15:07] <likemindead> Window managers are smaller & simpler. They don't include file managers, etc. That's when it becomes a desktop environment.
[15:23] <florian_> how can i find out which wm is being used by my de?
[15:24] <florian_> thanx for the link, very enlightening!
[15:28] <likemindead> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_manager
[15:29] <florian_> thank you!
[16:09] <mikubuntu> omg.  i never used a torrent before.  had trouble with azureus, and another, and then someone here suggested using deluge yesterday .. well it works, but it's downloading a 1.12 gb file at between 1.4 and 2 kib/s ..  in two days its downloaded barely 20% of the file.  i thought 'torrents' were sposed to be FAST?
[16:14] <TheSheep> depends on how many people are seeding it
[16:31] <Windowsuckscock> !ops
[16:32] <likemindead> 0__o
[16:33] <Windowsuckscock> !ops
[16:33] <Windowsuckscock> !ops
[16:34] <likemindead> What are you hoping to accomplish?
[16:34] <cody-somerville> that
[16:34]  * likemindead shakes his head in bewilderment...
[17:04] <ron_o> is there any way I can troubleshoot why my flash gets corrupted after my browser has been open for too long?
[17:05] <ron_o> It happens both in Firefox and Opera. The same symptoms. Even when I changed Opera setting for Flashplayer 10x it continues.
[17:05] <ron_o> I'm using Jaunty
[17:06] <nikolam> what browser
[17:07] <nikolam> what flawh version
[17:07] <nikolam> what xubuntu version
[17:07] <nikolam> how flash is installed, what version
[17:07] <nikolam> oh, jaunty, thats like latest,9.94
[17:07] <nikolam> 32 or 64-bit
[17:09] <ron_o> Opera 9.63 and Firefox 3.01.. 32 bit, You have version 10,0,22,87 installed
[17:09] <ron_o> same symptoms in both. Exactly the same. The sound gets distorted and the entire flash stutters, like as in it will start and stop.
[17:10] <ron_o> but only after my browser has been open for some time.
[17:10] <ron_o> weird symptom.
[17:10] <nikolam> what web page are that you are experience that on?
[17:10] <ron_o> youtube.
[17:10] <ron_o> but it's happend over several web pages..
[17:10] <ron_o> vimeo also.
[17:11] <nikolam> try installing seamonkey. if problem persist, try installing flash from adobe site, that might help
[17:11] <ron_o> with FF I would just disable then re-enable Flash and then reload the page and it would be fine. But with Opera I must restart the entire browser.
[17:11] <nikolam> Personally I am on 64 bit Hardy and i use latest 64bit flash from <adobe. Works great now
[17:11] <ron_o> will do. Didn't think about adobe's version.
[17:12] <ron_o> uninstall the free version?
[17:13] <nikolam> i wont.
[17:13] <nikolam> I think it is just older non free version just installed with repo
[17:13] <mikubuntu> omg.  i never used a torrent before.  had trouble with azureus, and another, and then someone here suggested using deluge yesterday .. well it works, but it's downloading a 1.12 gb file at between 1.4 and 2 kib/s ..  in two days its downloaded barely 20% of the file.  i thought 'torrents' were sposed to be FAST?
[17:13] <nikolam> One day you do upgrade it will follow upgrade
[17:14] <ron_o> mikubuntu, your filewall is probably causing you problems.
[17:14] <ron_o> you need to figure out which port that deluge is running off of and open that port in your firewall.
[17:15] <mikubuntu> ummm, what do i do, disable till the torrents done?
[17:15] <ron_o> torrent applications are both clients and servers.
[17:15] <ron_o> mikubuntu, try that to see if it is your firewall, but you need a firewall. Just open the port that deluge is using.
[17:15] <ron_o> depending on your firewall....
[17:16] <ron_o> you'll have to figure out how to do that.
[17:16] <mikubuntu> omg, i don't even know what firewall is on here or where to find it .. haha .. let alone find the port
[17:16] <ron_o> and torrents are only as fast as there are seeders and leechers.
[17:16] <ron_o> well, that is beyond the issues of this channel. :)
[17:16] <mikubuntu> well, you don't have to start calling names
[17:17] <mikubuntu> :)
[17:17] <ron_o> first, turn off your firewall and I bet you will have a better experience, but turn it back on because you don't want to become a victim of your own doing. :)
[17:20] <mikubuntu> now its downloading at about 5 kib/s .. haha .. eta .. 2d 2h .. hahaha
[17:21] <ron_o> be patient. It takes awhile for you to become 'recognized'
[17:22] <ron_o> you should read up on just the basics of bittorrent.
[17:38] <nikolam> mikubuntu, torrent speed is all about seeds. Also about your seed ratio
[17:38] <nikolam> also dwat is you up/dw speed?
[17:39] <nikolam> also use http//ftp server for iso it is faster, and then seed :)
[20:40] <Aquina> 'lo I'm using Azureus 2.5.04 with Xubuntu. Yet I had no problems but I'm concerned about security. Shuld I upgrade to vuze 4.0?
[20:40] <Sysi> no, if it's installed from repos
[20:41] <Sysi> there isn't unsecure stuff
[20:46] <Aquina> ok, thx
[20:52] <peanut2> greetings
[22:50] <ryjyd> hello
[22:52] <ryjyd> anyone about?
[22:52] <knome>  
[22:55] <ryjyd> well, I'll lay a question out here, and hopefully someone knows what to do
[22:55] <knome> yup.
[22:57] <ryjyd> I got vino server running on xubuntu, and in the process of doing that, I made the panels disappear, and every time I restart my comp, the last firefox window I had comes up, a system monitor, and a terminal, and that's it
[22:58] <ryjyd> question is, how do I get the panels back up?
[22:58] <knome> ryjyd, alt+f2 -> xfce4-panel
[22:59] <ryjyd> that was easy
[22:59] <ryjyd> now to figure out if it sticks...
[22:59] <knome> yup. you got anything mor challenging? ;)
[23:01] <ryjyd> yeah, but I don't feel like digging into it, and I think it's a hardware issue anyhow... old ass PCs
[23:01] <knome> you can try
[23:02] <ryjyd> it involves lugging hardware around... and the messages I get look like the results of fried memory chips
[23:02] <ryjyd> btw, the panels stayed... thanks for that
[23:02] <knome> okay
[23:02] <knome> forunately memory is cheap
[23:03] <ryjyd> yeah... cheaper if you get it from a pc antique store
[23:04] <ryjyd> I think I will challenge you a bit... gimme a sec to hook this other pc up
[23:04] <knome> okay
[23:07] <ryjyd> could be a hard drive too... can hear a  little grinding going on...
[23:08] <ryjyd> the live cd does look for a swap  partition, doesn't it...
[23:08] <knome> i suppose so yeah
[23:09] <ryjyd> man, my stuff might be all simple... kinda disappointing
[23:10] <ryjyd> all msgs start with ata1.01
[23:10] <knome> sounds like HD
[23:10] <ryjyd> exception emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0
[23:11] <ryjyd> BMDMA stat 0x45
[23:12] <ryjyd> cmd c8/00:20:3f:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/f0 tag 0 dma 4096
[23:12] <ryjyd> in
[23:13] <ryjyd> res 51/40:01:57:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/f0 Emask 0x9 (media error)
[23:13] <ryjyd> okay... I has plan
[23:13] <knome> the ata messages sound like HD
[23:14] <ryjyd> and media error... big clue theree too
[23:14] <ryjyd> I will unhook one hd, or maybe both
[23:18] <ryjyd> well well... that looks better
[23:19] <ritchie_rope> hello
[23:19] <ryjyd> I apologize, but I have nothing complicated, I'm afraid
[23:19] <knome> hi ritchie_rope
[23:19] <knome> ryjyd, that's ok ;)
[23:20] <ritchie_rope> could someone help me in setting up GRUB?
[23:20] <ryjyd> unless you can tell me for sure that an ati card with an rca video out won't work without holy water
[23:20] <ritchie_rope> I am sure it is not so complicated as the descriptions of it are..
[23:20] <knome> ritchie_rope, grub should be set up automatically
[23:21] <knome> ryjyd, probably won't ;)
[23:21] <ritchie_rope> knome, sure, but I installed a windows xp (had to because of printing problems)
[23:21] <ryjyd> okay, I'm off to get holy water, then
[23:21] <ritchie_rope> and I managed to have xubuntu again
[23:21] <ryjyd> thanks again for your help
[23:21] <ritchie_rope> it boots up, but xp is nowhere
[23:21] <knome> ryjyd, np. have fun with xubuntu.
[23:21] <knome> !grub | ritchie_rope
[23:22] <ritchie_rope> yes, I know.. i googled a lot in the topic
[23:22] <ritchie_rope> but the descriptions are not so helpful..
[23:22] <knome> right
[23:22] <knome> ritchie_rope, what's the problem?
[23:22] <ritchie_rope> I only want GRUB to load xp for me sometimes, nothing more
[23:23] <knome> ritchie_rope, yep, but where are you stuck in?
[23:23] <ritchie_rope> only the linux kernel lines and the memtest can be found on the options sreen
[23:23] <knome> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot#Recovering%20GRUB%20after%20reinstalling%20Windows
[23:23] <ritchie_rope> on loading
[23:23] <knome> see that page. does it tell you what you have to do?
[23:24] <knome> uhm
[23:24] <knome> sorry
[23:25] <knome> that was a wrong subheading
[23:25] <ritchie_rope> well, in another way I already recovered the GRUB
[23:25] <knome> okay
[23:25] <ritchie_rope> I only want to add a line somehow which loads xp
[23:25] <knome> i suppose reinstalling would help as well..
[23:25] <knome> i understand
[23:25] <ritchie_rope> oh, ok.. I'll try it
[23:26] <ritchie_rope> just my dvd reader is getting on my nerves, hopefully it will read the live cd
[23:26] <knome> ritchie_rope, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-116093.html
[23:26] <knome> ritchie_rope, there is more
[23:28] <ritchie_rope> thank you for this last page...
[23:28] <ritchie_rope> it seems promising
[23:29] <ritchie_rope> at least somewhere it is described why I always have to write hd something but all I always see is sda in linux
[23:29] <knome> yup
[23:30] <ritchie_rope> by the way, does it make any difference if I see boot partitions made by windows listed separately after typing fdisk -l?
[23:31] <ritchie_rope> oh, it is fsck if i am not mistaken
[23:31] <ritchie_rope> sorry, it is pretty late here :(
[23:31] <knome> here as well
[23:32] <Whisper> i get something with conflicting packages when i try to install virtualbox, why is that?
[23:33] <Whisper> libqtgui4 seems to be the problem
[23:33] <Whisper> but i cant figure out what to do
[23:34] <ritchie_rope> wow!!!!
[23:34] <ritchie_rope> working!!! :D:D
[23:34] <ritchie_rope> I can't believe it!  :)
[23:35] <ritchie_rope> it was simple indeed
[23:35] <ritchie_rope> :)
[23:36] <ritchie_rope> thank you for helping me, knome
[23:36] <knome> ritchie_rope, no. have fun :)
[23:36] <knome> s/no/np/
[23:40] <Whisper> anyone else having problems with virtualbox install?
[23:40] <knome> Whisper, nope, not at the moment. what's the problem?
[23:41] <Whisper> wait, ill give you a pastebin
[23:42] <Whisper> knome http://paste.ubuntu.com/299346/
[23:42] <Whisper> thats what it said
[23:43] <knome> Whisper, which xubuntu are you running?
[23:43] <Whisper> latest i think..i just downloaded it
[23:43] <Whisper> how can i check?
[23:43] <knome> what does 'lsb_release -a' say in terminal?
[23:44] <Whisper> Ubuntu 9.04
[23:44] <knome> okay
[23:44] <knome> Whisper, what does 'sudo apt-get check' say?
[23:46] <Whisper> http://paste.ubuntu.com/299349/
[23:46] <knome> Whisper, with sudo, please
[23:46] <Whisper> im root
[23:46] <knome> right
[23:48] <knome> let me think a bit
[23:48] <Whisper> however, if i try to apt-get the package it complained about in the first link i get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/299350/
[23:48] <knome> what if you try to isntall libaudio2? :P
[23:49] <Whisper> http://paste.ubuntu.com/299352/
[23:50] <knome> right. 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list' ?
[23:51] <Whisper> http://paste.ubuntu.com/299354/
[23:51] <knome> okay, there's the problem
[23:51] <knome> just a minute
[23:52] <knome> Whisper, you are familiar in editing text files?
[23:52] <Whisper> yeah, sure
[23:52] <Whisper> i know linux well, not that skilled on ubuntu tho since ive mostly been using gentoo before
[23:53] <knome> okay, so replace your /etc/apt/sources.list with this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6281152&postcount=2
[23:53] <knome> then run 'sudo apt-get update' and try to install virtualbox again
[23:53] <knome> and tell me the results or any problems you might run into, of course
[23:54] <Whisper> running update now
[23:55] <Whisper> seems to be working so far
[23:56] <Whisper> what is vboxgtk?
[23:56] <knome> some kind of gui, i suppose
[23:56] <Whisper> okay