[00:00] <lun4tic> maybe it's a problem with remote users
[00:00] <talvik> i'm back. the problem goes away after I change the session in kdm. auto login is workin fine now
[00:00] <lun4tic> that remote users are not allowed to run stuff
[00:00] <tred> but when i sudo plasma it starts, only everything on desktop is root, and i cant change back to normal user
[00:00] <lun4tic> talvik: gz :)
[00:01] <lun4tic> tred: thats why you shouldn't start x apps as root
[00:01] <tred> seems remote users would be blocked from blocked sudo before blocking anything else
[00:01] <lun4tic> especially not apps that start other apps and gui stuff
[00:01] <lun4tic> what's the error message when you try to start as normal user?
[00:01] <tred> im not trying to start anything as root, except as a fact i cant start it otherwise
[00:02] <lun4tic> without the exact error message nobody can help you cause nobody knows whats goin on :D
[00:02] <tred> i think it was command not found
[00:02] <talvik> lun4tic: what do you think of the default font size?
[00:02] <lun4tic> is the vnc kde running in some sandbox?
[00:02] <tred> brb, i will check again, with normal user /usr/bin/ plasma
[00:03] <lun4tic> talvik: what's with the font?
[00:03] <tred> standard x11vnc
[00:03] <lun4tic> didn't get that question
[00:03] <sourcemaker> are there steghide users?
[00:03] <tred> brb
[00:03] <talvik> lun4tic: i think the default is 8
[00:03] <lun4tic> in kdm?
[00:04] <lun4tic> or what
[00:04] <talvik> in kde after login
[00:05] <ncfi1013> if i only want one instance of firefox to open do i delete the default profile of firefox?
[00:05] <lun4tic> dejavu sans 8
[00:05] <lun4tic> yes
[00:05] <lun4tic> @talvik
[00:06] <lun4tic> ncfi1013: what does the number of profiles have to do with the number of instances firefox starts?
[00:07] <lun4tic> ncfi1013: normally there is only one instance
[00:07] <ncfi1013> lun4tic: everytime i opened firefox two instances would open at the same time
[00:07] <lun4tic> hm..
[00:07] <carpii> opening it from where? just a desktop icon ?
[00:07] <lun4tic> the real binary?
[00:08] <lun4tic> or are you running some script
[00:08] <ncfi1013> carpii: opening it using alt-f2
[00:08] <lun4tic> "ps aux |grep firefox" what das that say?
[00:08] <talvik> other them those two, there are only a few kde rough edges. plugins and driver installer works fast, easy and works!
[00:09] <ncfi1013> lun4tic: "ps aux |grep firefox" run that in the terminal?
[00:09] <lun4tic> yes
[00:10] <lun4tic> it should show your grep command
[00:10] <lun4tic> and the running instances of firefox
[00:12] <ncfi1013> lun4tic: is there a space between the pole and grep? "| grep" like that?
[00:12] <lun4tic> doesn't matter
[00:12] <ncfi1013> oh ok
[00:12] <lun4tic> spaces only matter in word processing apps and in login/passwords
[00:13] <ncfi1013> lun4tic what does this mean: ncfi1013 18802  0.0  0.0   3336   796 pts/2    S+   18:13   0:00 grep firefox
[00:14] <lun4tic> that is the programm you are running
[00:14] <lun4tic> ps aux shows all processes you have running
[00:15] <lun4tic> | gives the output to the app behind the |
[00:15] <lun4tic> and grep firefox shows only the firefox lines in the output of ps aux
[00:15] <ncfi1013> lun4tic so i can keep the default firefox profile and it wont hurt anything?
[00:15] <lun4tic> so it's a "command chain" somehow
[00:16] <avihayb> there is an explenation about pipes in the ubunchu comix
[00:16] <lun4tic> not at all
[00:16] <ncfi1013> thanx
[00:16] <avihayb> http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/ubunchu-chapter-02-is-here/
[00:17] <`Onyx> IS there a manual way to change the time on my clock? It's changed to daylight savings setting for some reason
[00:19] <avihayb> `Onyx: there's a time and date applet in the system settings
[00:19] <lun4tic> damn the time server still, doesn't work
[00:20] <`Onyx> Where might I find those avihayb?
[00:21] <avihayb> when you kilck on the k-menu (the "start" button, you should get a list of favorite applications
[00:21] <`Onyx> oh haha
[00:21] <`Onyx> Thanks
[00:21] <avihayb> System settings should be there
[00:22] <`Onyx> Thanks mate
[00:23] <avihayb> my pleasure.
[00:25] <tred> lun4tic: the msg i get when i try to start plasma as user is the msg about COMPOSITE-less
[00:26] <tred> when i sudo plasma i get no such msg
[00:26] <sobczyk> the default g++ in kubuntu isnow 4.4
[01:10] <lun4tic> tred: so turn of compositing locally
[01:10] <lun4tic> then i guess it will work
[01:11] <lun4tic> compisiting doesn't work over network i think
[01:11] <Rhapsody> Would anyone happen to know of an Irssi script (or other sort of script that works with or could be easily adapted to work with Irssi) that can give me a 'now playing' function with Amarok? The old one I had has been broken since KDE 4.
[01:11] <lun4tic> tred: so when you want to use the system over vnc don't turn on the fancy 3d stuff
[01:13] <charles_> Hi !  I have troubles installing ati drivers.  Downloaded many packages and followed many how-to's.  Clicking the green button  in the Hardware Driver GUI won't do anything.  Anyone can help ?
[01:15] <charles_> I edited xorg.conf and caused crashes.  Makes me wary of doing anything. I badly need a hand...
[01:19] <ubox> does anyone know how to turn of mouse wheel desktop switching?
[01:20] <ubox> no one around?
[01:20] <maco> uhh lemme look
[01:20] <ubox> thanks :)
[01:21] <avihayb> ubox, you mean while hovering on the desktop?
[01:21] <ubox> yes
[01:23] <maco> ubox: sorry i cant find it
[01:23] <JontheEchidna> should be possible in 4.4 once it's relesaed, from what I hear around the dev blogs^
[01:25] <avihayb> I'm runing kde/openbox, and it's on by deafult
[01:27] <charles_> Hi !  I have troubles installing ati drivers.  Downloaded many packages and followed many how-to's.  Clicking the green button  in the Hardware Driver GUI won't do anything.  Anyone can help ?
[01:28] <avihayb> have you tryed the envyng package? I'm not recommending it
[01:29] <ubox> thanks for the help :)
[01:29] <charles_> envyng ? never heard of it
[01:30] <avihayb> charles_: and, what card model
[01:30] <maurice> Just loaded ubuntu for the first time about a day ago and I've got the hang of it already!
[01:30] <maurice> Just thought Id say that!
[01:30] <carpii> hows kde 4.x looking these days? many issues ?   I tried 4.1 and it was utter rubbish
[01:30] <maco> maurice: great!
[01:30] <carpii> but im facing facts that i gotta migrate at some point :/
[01:31] <maco> carpii: 4.2 was decent and 4.3's got some great touch-ups
[01:31] <maurice> Cheers MACO
[01:31] <maco> maurice: welcome to the community :)
[01:31] <carpii> is it stable?
[01:31] <maurice> tHANKS A LOT GUYS
[01:31] <sobczyk> but still systemsettings does not have administrator mode...
[01:31] <maurice> ooops
[01:31] <avihayb> carpii: It's a bit heavier, but since 4.2.2, it's fully useable
[01:31] <carpii> or is there a 'outstanding bug list' i can view ?
[01:31] <carpii> heavier as in cpu/resources?
[01:31] <sobczyk> kpackagekit can't switch to root for installing
[01:32] <maco> carpii: 4.3.1 is whats in 9.10
[01:32] <avihayb> yhe, I guess, It's just slower. I've installed 9.04 on this p4 1.5GHZ with 512MB not a high end machine
[01:32] <carpii> yeah, im still on 8.04 though
[01:32] <carpii> i darent risk upgrading until i hear good things :(
[01:33] <maco> carpii: kpackagekit is rather boned. either install synaptic or use the command line if youre comfortable with that. other than that, looks good
[01:33] <sobczyk> a lot depends on graphic card in kde4
[01:33] <avihayb> and it was slow, alt tabbing was very annoying. at first I installed kde3, it sped things up abit
[01:33] <carpii> hm, i normally use adept tbh, but by cmdline you mean sudo apt-get ?
[01:33] <maco> avihayb: did you have compositing turned on?
[01:33] <maco> carpii: yes, apt-get
[01:34] <carpii> ok thanks
[01:34] <sobczyk> try aptitude
[01:34] <maco> carpii: no kde4 adept, so kpackagekit is in use in 9.x, but its kinda broken
[01:34] <maco> sobczyk: either works
[01:34] <carpii> i take it theres no way to roll back after? without backing up entire drive ?
[01:34] <avihayb> had it on and of. sometimes, compositing would actually speed things up
[01:34] <maco> carpii: nope
[01:34] <carpii> ok, thanks
[01:34] <maco> *shrug* i dont use kwin. im a tiling window manager type
[01:35] <sobczyk> except the admin mode and kpackagekit (which is installed by default somehow) the 9.10 is really great :)
[01:35] <avihayb> I never could adept to adept. actually, the way I see it, adept never adapted to people, so it got extinced...
[01:35] <maco> avihayb: sounds right to me!
[01:36] <maco> i got so brain-boggled trying to figure out adept to fix a friend's system, i gave up and went command line. i was a gnome user at the time
[01:39] <avihayb> maco:  I'm a kde user, and the first software I install is synaptic
[01:39] <maco> i only switched to kde when 4.2 came out
[01:39] <maco> people asking for help with 4.0 confuse me
[01:48] <DoubleD84> computers really piss me off some times...
[01:48] <lokman> selam
[01:49]  * genii sics an ARM-based system on DoubleD84
[01:50] <avihayb> :->
[01:50] <DoubleD84> lol
[01:52] <DoubleD84> honestly i replaced a motherboard after it slowly fried 4gb of ram and now that i've got a new board and ram I can't find any install discs i need. I'm stuck using the laptop that the kids tore half the bloody keys off of to download ne images only to realize that the burner is NFG too
[01:52] <DoubleD84> and i've got 3 small kids that are supposed to be in bed
[01:53]  * DoubleD84 vent over
[01:53] <DoubleD84> i found a jaunty install cd
[01:55] <avihayb> :-> you should do something about kids destroying laptop issue
[01:55] <DoubleD84> that would involve beating the wife and that wont do me any good either
[01:56]  * genii gets the downtrodden wife to write some code\\
[02:23] <DoubleD84> when installing jaunty from the install disc.. and you select the partitions you want mounted/formatted does it format when you hit 'forward'? I can't tell if its locked up
[02:26] <DoubleD84> the cursor says busy and the monitor will turn off eventually but there is no hard drive activity and it just seems to be taking a while.. its a 200gb partition that i'm formatting so i'm hoping that's the issue
[02:27] <avihayb> It ahouldn't be
[02:28] <avihayb> I suggest you go to the liveCD, install something nice like gPartEd, format by yourself, and then retry installing if it's an issue
[02:29] <DoubleD84> well im going to hop in the shower and if its still idling when i get out i'll give it a shot
[02:29] <ubox> mine took a little while on a 150gb, long enough i touched the mouse a few times to keep the screen awake
[02:30] <DoubleD84> ubox.. well i hope that's all it is
[02:30] <ubox> me too :)
[02:34] <avihayb> there is a guy called charles__. if he comes by and asks for me, please tell him I went to sleep
[02:34] <ubox> ok
[02:46] <DoubleD84> hmm its still going... :(
[03:09] <Ch3mtail> The USB install (w. persistent changes) mode from the live CD will create an installation that keeps changes in memory until system shutdown, minimizing wear on flash media, am I right?
[03:13] <I_was_lucas> Ch3mtail: yeah
[03:13] <Ch3mtail> Good to know for sure, I don't want to wear the poor thing out.
[03:22] <JohnFlux> Hey all
[03:22] <JohnFlux> The first thing i see when upgrading to a Kubuntu 9.10 is a dialog box telling me that Akonadi didn't start
[03:22] <JohnFlux> this seems pretty important to fix
[03:25] <russlar> JohnFlux: I saw that error on my jaunty install ever since I installed kde 4.3
[03:25] <russlar> about a week ago, it fixed itself
[03:25] <russlar> it never caused me any problems, other than a little annoyance at having to clear the error message
[03:34] <JohnFlux> russlar: well, the bug seems to have returned
[03:35] <JohnFlux> it's there in a default upgrade to 9.10
[03:35] <JohnFlux> It will be annoying in 9.10 is shipped with this bug :-/
[03:35] <russlar> I don't think it's a 9.10 bug, it's a kde bug
[03:36] <russlar> if it's even a bug at all
[03:46] <ubuntu> Hi, i just intall the daily release of kubuntu on my sdb with windows 7 on the sda and the grub freezes at the "GRUB loading" and nothing happend
[03:46] <ubuntu> any ideas how to fix? im using the live cd
[03:51] <Trebacz> Is it normal to have both kdm and kdm-kde4 starting in init.d or is the kdm-kde4 left over. I get an error that kdm-kde4 is already shut down when I shut down.
[03:55] <Trebacz> I'd assum I can just execute a "sudo update-rc.d -f kdm-kde4 remove" with no side effects. Opinions welcome.
[03:57] <rzx237> someone knows where I can get new kde wallpapr as in https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KarmicKoala/RC/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=screen1-wee.png ?
[04:27] <kholis> test dari Bandung....
[04:29] <zeb> hey i need some help with getting different background for each workspace im using kde with jaunty
[04:30] <zeb> anyone
[04:30] <ubox> one sec
[04:30] <zeb> kk
[04:31] <kholis> ??
[04:32]  * zeb turns on the jeopardy song
[04:33] <ubox> zeb http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=7671
[04:38] <xenoterracide> how's the beta? anyone have opinion's?
[04:38] <xenoterracide> thinking about putting a non linux users on it...
[04:38] <zeb> the ctrl shift p and ctrl shift n method doesnt switch the desktop
[04:44] <lucas_> does anyone know how to make flash run ok with konqueror?
[04:47] <lucas_> aham, any one??
[04:50] <lucas_> !konqueror
[05:06] <lucas_> does any one has the same issue that i do?
[05:12] <wiredmind> Hello
[06:06] <lucas_> did any one hear anything about firefox qt ?
[06:10] <JohnFlux> lucas_: well, I was working on it for a while
[06:11] <JohnFlux> lucas_: what do you want to know?
[06:11] <lucas_> is that still in develpment or they just quit
[06:12] <JohnFlux> lucas_: well, I personally gave up on it.  It can be shoehorned it, but what's the point?
[06:12] <JohnFlux> *in
[06:12] <lucas_> just wanted to know if there is any package arround with firefox-qt suppont
[06:12] <lucas_> support
[06:13] <JohnFlux> lucas_: hmm, I'm talking about getting the renderer to use Qt.  Maybe you are just asking about having Qt-styled buttons for the user interface?
[06:13] <JohnFlux> lucas_: if so, that works etc.  Dunno if there's a firefox-qt package
[06:13] <JohnFlux> in ubuntu
[06:14] <lucas_> k thanks
[06:40] <pedro_> whats this?
[07:46] <perseid> How do I get a list of drives for grub?
[07:49] <sage_in_space> quick question if anyone is around?
[07:50] <sage_in_space> shouldnt kubuntu 9.04 have a task bar of some sort?
[07:51] <HanzZ> hi, what's the name of KDE the app used to change cpu frequency or for example screen brightness and when you run it it's accessible via icon in system tray, please?
[07:54] <sage_in_space> it seems that everyone is asleep hanzz
[07:54] <maco> im awake
[07:54] <HanzZ> I see :)
[07:57] <sage_in_space> what version are you running hanzz?
[07:59] <HanzZ> jaunty
[08:03] <HanzZ> got it
[08:03] <HanzZ> guidance-power-manager
[08:03] <sage_in_space> yeah i just upgraded to that version and for some reason i have no taskbar?
[08:31] <tasslehoff> when I plug in an SD card, I get a notice about plugged in devices, but I have to open them in Dolphin before I can access them in a terminal. how can I change this?
[08:43] <knoxville> Hi..
[08:48] <knoxville> Is there any backtrack help channel out there?
[08:49] <knoxville> Or what program should I download for sniffing hidden wireless networks?
[08:53] <jussi01> !info aircrackng
[08:53] <jussi01> !info aircrack-ng
[08:54] <knoxville> already downloaded it ;)
[08:54] <jussi01> knoxville: please note, we dont support illegal activities, so please use it only for legitimate use cases
[08:54] <jussi01> !info kismet
[08:58] <knoxville> Thanks Jussi! :)
[09:31] <bashca> hi there i have problem  when updating my kubuntu
[09:31] <bashca> The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork!
[09:33] <bashca> any 1 can help me !
[09:41] <danielsp> Hi, it's the fist time that I come here
[09:41] <danielsp> I have a question
[09:42] <danielsp> when I plug my laptop to a video projector, the screen resolution isn't correct on the wall screen
[09:42] <danielsp> what can I do?
[09:43] <Bou> danielsp: do you manage to configure it after you plugged it to the video projector?
[09:44] <danielsp> no
[09:44] <danielsp> i didn't do anything
[10:00] <ionut_> does anyone knows where i can find some online tutorials about PHP 5.0 ?
[10:01] <danielsp> did u google?
[10:01] <ionut_> yes,but i founded just some tutorials (3,4,5) i need more
[10:01] <ionut_> more lessons
[10:02] <danielsp> u can get it from torrent
[10:02] <danielsp> mininova
[10:02] <danielsp> get an ebook and go on ith that
[10:05] <ionut_> yes but i need some
[10:05] <ionut_> 	
[10:05] <ionut_> rehearsal
[10:05] <ionut_> for tomorrow
[10:34] <orion_> help
[10:34] <orion_> rrors were encountered while processing:
[10:34] <orion_>  /var/cache/apt/archives/splashy_0.3.13-5ubuntu1_i386.deb
[10:34] <orion_> kbubntu 9.10
[10:49] <stephan__> there was this nich view in konqi where i can search graphically for file and folder space hogs?
[10:49] <stephan__> where is it gone?
[10:49] <stephan__> cant find it anymore
[10:53] <ionut_> does anyone know an application (for ubuntu 8.04) that can record my screen ?
[10:53] <stephan__> konqueror-plugin-fsview
[10:58] <jussi01> !info istanbul
[10:58] <jussi01> !info krecordmydesktop
[10:59] <jussi01> !screencast
[10:59] <jussi01> ionut_: ^^
[11:01] <slow-motion> hi
[11:01] <ionut_> thank you s much  jussion1
[11:02] <jussi01> ionut_: also, use tab to complete nick names, makes thingks much easier ;)
[11:04] <ionut_> jussi01: ur right (thx)
[11:05] <ionut_> jussi01: one more question : Which of this u recomand to me ? (if u know that one is better than all )?
[11:05] <jussi01> !u | ionut_
[11:06] <jussi01> ionut_: Im sorry, I really havent used them. however I have heard good things about recordmydesktop and istanbul. best just to give them a try
[11:06] <carpii> lolz @ ubootu. ur crzy
[11:06] <jussi01> carpii: ubottu is a bot, and I called her.
[11:07] <carpii> i know. i mistyped its nick anyway :(
[11:08] <ionut_> thank you jussi01
[11:09] <jussi01> ionut_: yw
[11:17] <ionut_> jussi01: i think recordmydesktop is verry good
[11:59] <avihayb> umm, how do you clean an LCD screen? is a normal window cleaning liquid ok? (yes, the machine is runing kubuntu
[12:07] <stephan__> i have install  konqueror-plugin-fsview, but there is no new opion in konqi
[12:08] <ferassb> هل من احد يتكلم العربية
[12:10] <ferassb> any body speak arabic ???
[12:13] <ferassb> how to update my kde 4.2.2 to kde 4.3.1 ??
[12:36] <JuJuBee> Why do I have blocked updates?  I  update my computer regularly...  What causes them to be blocked?  They are Linux-headers-generic-2.6.28.15.20(amd64) same for restricted-modules, generic and image-generic
[12:48] <stephan__> i there a graphical tool to find space hogs
[12:55] <alvin> stephan__: There's filelight
[13:01] <figaro42> is there an ubuntu one client for KDE?
[13:02] <orient2000> .
[13:04] <avihayb_> stephan__: you mean to find where all your disk space is disappearing to?
[13:30] <stephan__> avihayb_: yes
[14:11] <arcanjo> good morning....friends
[14:18] <trijntje> hi all, can someone tell me where the Disk & filesystems in systemsettings went?
[14:31] <xdude> ...
[14:31] <xdude> hello there
[14:32] <xdude> any one alive in there?
[14:33] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:33] <trijntje> hi BluesKaj
[14:33] <BluesKaj> hi trijntje
[14:47] <doni> check
[15:08] <luis_> hey there good morning 2 u all
[15:08]  * genii puts on more coffee
[15:08] <doni> ??
[15:08] <doni> morning?
[15:08] <luis_> i need help i was using amarook just fine but now it wont play anysong
[15:08] <doni> 21:10 here
[15:08] <luis_> here is 9.08 am
[15:09] <doni> http://packages.ubunut.com/hardy/kde/adept-batch
[15:10] <luis_> it says some media could not be loaded (not playabe) why is this happening? how can i fix it? help pls
[15:10] <doni> ah ...
[15:10] <doni> it same what happened to me
[15:10] <kyniker> hi, just one short question: will the dist upgrade to karmic koala break things like an installed ati-driver and so on?
[15:10] <luis_> so do u know anyway to fix it?
[15:11] <doni> i dont know hehe
[15:11] <luis_> txs
[15:11] <luis_> any1 else pls?
[15:21] <white_pelican> does anyone here use pidgin?
[15:22] <luis_> i use to
[15:22] <luis_> not anymore
[15:23] <luis_> tough is a nice messenger
[15:23] <white_pelican> tough?
[15:24] <lascivus> he meant though
[15:24] <luis_> u got that right bb txs
[15:24] <luis_> fingerprint mistakes
[15:24] <luis_> hehehehehe
[15:25] <white_pelican> I'd use kopete but it's broken for yahoo
[15:25] <luis_> the same is with pidgin
[15:26] <white_pelican> at least kopete for kde 3
[15:26] <luis_> its got to do something with the protocols ther must be someone aroung here that can tell u how to fix it
[15:26] <luis_> is really simple and easy thing is i cant remember how to do it
[15:26]  * genii quassels
[15:32] <lascivus> what happens with yahoo on kopete?
[15:32] <lascivus> does it not sign in, ...?
[15:33] <luis_> either kopete or pidgin wont connect yahoo accounts
[15:33] <white_pelican> yes lascivus kopete does not sign in with yahoo
[15:33] <lascivus> I'm using Kopete version 0.70.4 with no porblems
[15:34] <lascivus> works with yahoo
[15:35] <luis_> i have 3.5.10 and it just go on line with my yahoo account
[15:36] <luis_> i mean i just wont go online with my yahoo account
[15:37] <sven624> gasp
[15:37] <kyniker> uhm, once again: will the upgrade to karmic koala *probably* break things linke an installed ati-driver? If so, I'll wait before installing it
[15:37] <trijntje> white_pelican, luis_, I believe its an issue with yahoo's DNS servers
[15:37] <sven624> is karmic out, yet
[15:37] <luis_> nop
[15:37] <luis_> yahoo is fine
[15:37] <white_pelican> trijntje, I know, but it used to work with other chat programs
[15:37] <white_pelican> till this AM
[15:37] <white_pelican> now pidgin is vroken
[15:38] <white_pelican> broken*
[15:38] <white_pelican> but pidgin breaks for all my chat programs
[15:38] <luis_> is got to do something with protocols
[15:38] <luis_> there a guy here i cant remember hes nick he told me how to fix it
[15:38] <luis_> and i did
[15:39] <luis_> but  that was befoer months ago
[15:39] <lascivus> I connected to cs118.msg.ac4.yaho:mmcc
[15:39] <luis_> i change os then i came back to kubuntu
[15:39] <lascivus> with no problems
[15:39] <lordganesh> nvidia!
[15:39] <luis_> and now i cant remember how to do it
[15:39] <white_pelican> thanks anyway luis
[15:39] <lascivus> 63.251.179.28
[15:39] <luis_> sorry couldn help you
[15:40] <kyniker> sven624: i never used kubuntu before, so I don't know if upgrades in general remove drivers
[15:40] <luis_> best thing u can do is to keep asking at severl times this guy hve to connect and he'll tell you how to fix it really is simple
[15:50] <thune3> moving to fresh 9.10 I'd like to reinstall top level packages. Is there any CLI way to extract/find the top level packages only (minimal set) in my current 9.04?
[15:55] <lordganesh_> can anybody tell me how to install nvidia drivers
[15:55] <luis_> look for them on adept manager
[15:56] <lordganesh_> how
[15:56] <luis_> i assume u have kubuntu right?
[15:56] <luis_> ?
[15:57] <lordganesh_> i just switched from ubuntu
[15:57] <luis_> what version do u have?
[15:57] <lordganesh_> 9.10
[15:57] <luis_> i c
[15:57] <luis_> ok just go to menu
[15:58] <luis_> look for system
[15:58] <luis_> and once there look for adept manager
[15:59] <lordganesh_> forget that !! can u just tell me package name for nvidia 8400gs
[15:59] <Quintasan> lordganesh_: why don't you run jockey-gtk?
[15:59] <Quintasan> lordganesh_: oh sorry, you use kubuntu?
[15:59] <Quintasan> lordganesh_: jockey-kde
[15:59] <lordganesh_> what is that
[16:00] <Quintasan> lordganesh_: Restricted drivers manager
[16:00] <Quintasan> just put that into terminal
[16:03] <lordganesh_> oh thanks .........but problem is not that simple ..let me explain problem in detail... i have installed previous downloaded packages using dpkg...and then activated nvidia drivers in ubuntu....but after restart system gives low graphics error
[16:04] <Quintasan> :/
[16:04] <Quintasan> lordganesh_: try purging all nvidia related packages then install via jockey
[16:05] <lordganesh_> i have done that also .it doesn't help
[16:08] <Quintasan> lordganesh_: try: cd / && sudo find . -name nvidia > list.txt
[16:08] <Quintasan> lordganesh_: then open up list.txt and check if there are any files left
[16:11] <kitply> hello. I have just configured the Kmail client for my imap gmail id. But i wanted to know how we can configure the signature in kmail?
[16:12] <kitply> can anyone helpme in this
[16:12] <jhutchins_lt> kitply: Yes you can configure the signature in kmail.
[16:13] <kitply> jhutchins: can you tell me the steps/navigations?
[16:13] <jhutchins_lt> kitply: Settings/configure kmail/identity (modify).
[16:14] <lordganesh_> quinstasan : i m trying that it has searched four  files ./etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/nvidia
[16:14] <lordganesh_> ./usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.28-11-generic/include/config/fb/nvidia
[16:14] <lordganesh_> ./usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.28-11/drivers/video/nvidia
[16:14] <lordganesh_>  ./lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia
[16:14] <FloodBotK1> lordganesh_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:14] <kitply> jhutchins_lt: Thanks jhutchins_lt, i found it
[16:23] <white_pelican> it appears that an update last night, one of which was to poppler, broke pidgin
[16:23] <white_pelican> can someone help?
[16:45] <MK13> does anyone know how to change the konqueror's useragent to a custom one for all sites, not just one at a time?
[16:51] <roKB> help plz, http://codepad.org/cNDK0LbX
[16:52] <mfraz74> hi, trying to rename some mp3s in 9.04 using krename, but i don't seem to have the option of renaming based on id3 tags
[16:54] <Pici> mfraz74: krename doesnt have that ability, its just for renaming files.
[16:54] <mfraz74> i know, i want to rename them based on the id3 tags like i could in kubuntu 8.04
[16:55] <roKB> help plz, http://codepad.org/cNDK0LbX
[16:58] <genii> MK13: Maybe putting a * for the URL field of "When browsing the following site"
[17:01] <MK13> genii, it wont accept the '*' character
[17:02] <MK13> right now my network is blocking me b/c it doesnt recognize the useragent
[17:04] <Guest49161> Hello everyone.  Im new to ubuntu.  :)
[17:04] <Tm_T> Guest49161: welcome
[17:05] <Guest49161> I was wondering...  lol  this is a very remedial problem and Im almost too ashamed to ask.  :|  After I install Apache, where in the file system is are my web pages that I edit?  :P
[17:05] <MK13> /var/www
[17:05] <Guest49161> wow.   so simple.  ok ty
[17:06] <MK13> ^^^ *usually
[17:06] <Guest49161> Hrmm...  there is no /var/www
[17:06] <MK13> then check your apache.conf file, another root must have been given
[17:06] <sven624> Have you changed the folder ?
[17:06] <Guest49161> ok ty
[17:07] <Guest49161> no
[17:07] <Guest49161> fresh install
[17:07] <sven624> hmm it's really apache ?
[17:07] <Guest49161> Actually, It's Xampp
[17:08] <MK13> Guest49161, and when you go to your computer's ip in a browers it has a "It Works!" message?
[17:08] <Guest49161> Well, I had to forward some ports on my wifi, but ya...
[17:08] <MK13> Guest49161, then read Xampp's documentation
[17:08] <Guest49161> I get the welcome screen from my vista box
[17:09] <Guest49161> hehe  i tried and got lost.   :/  lol
[17:09] <MK13> Guest49161,  is the Xampp in portable mode or installed?
[17:09] <sven624> hmm anywhere must be a "htdocs" folder
[17:09] <Guest49161> installed
[17:10] <Guest49161> ya, I see htdocs
[17:10] <sven624> that is it
[17:10] <mfraz74> ok it looks like 3.0.14 of Krename doesn't work properly in Kubuntu 9.04
[17:10] <MK13> Guest49161, check that folder for an index.html
[17:11] <sven624> No, there must be a index.php
[17:11] <Guest49161> MK13:  Thanks.  I just found it.  ;)
[17:11] <Guest49161> There is an index.php and all the include files and image folder and everything.
[17:11] <Guest49161> ty ty ty vm
[17:12] <MK13> sven624, right... i forgot about Xampp's front page thing
[17:12] <Guest49161> is Screem a good html editor?
[17:12] <sven624> try Knote
[17:12] <Guest49161> tyvm
[17:13] <MK13> Guest49161, to me kate is a good one :D
[17:13] <mfraz74> or kwrite
[17:13] <sven624> yes, i would say kate
[17:13] <sven624> not knote
[17:14] <avihayb__> Kate also has a dumb auto complete feature, it's very helpfull when you have to write repetative keywords
[17:15] <sven624> you can try openoffice.org write you can export html-files
[17:16] <mfraz74> oo.org doesn't produce very clean html
[17:17] <sven624> hmm, right too. BUT it works
[17:17] <mfraz74> i tend to use kwrite to write php these days
[17:20] <sven624> problem solved ?
[17:20] <CupofDice> Can Dragonplayer be used for playback in Konqueror on Kubuntu 9.04?
[17:23] <sven624> try it
[17:26] <sven624> thats boring without any problems
[17:30] <jhutchins_lt> Real web developers use vi.
[17:31] <sven624> not very easy to use
[17:31] <avihayb__> vim is better, it's vi improved
[17:31] <sven624> so. i go away
[17:34] <jamesjedimaster> I agree with the use of vi :)
[17:41] <jhutchins_lt> jamesjedimaster: Encourages clean HTML.
[17:42] <jhutchins_lt> Not the wasteful crud with style markups for empty elements.
[17:42] <jamesjedimaster> that's right
[17:47] <Guest49161> ok hehe  I got everything to work great except I dont know the default login/pw of the XAMPP ftp server.  Any ideas where I can find that?
[17:48] <loic> hi
[17:48] <loic> does anyone know how to change the default ssh shell
[17:48] <Guest49161> Hello.  :)
[17:49] <jhutchins_lt> loic: To what for instance?
[17:49] <loic> because i don't understand why but sh is launched and not bash
[17:49] <jhutchins_lt> loic: I'm pretty sure it pulls the shell from the user's environment.
[17:49] <jhutchins_lt> *buntu doesn't use bash iirc.
[17:49] <jamesjedimaster> indeed
[17:50] <loic> whereis sh tells me /bin/sh and /bin/sh is a symbolic link on /bin/bash
[17:50] <jhutchins_lt> ssh (user@)<host> /bin/bash
[17:50] <loic> jhutchins_lt: I know and i try to change it with the chsh command to bash but it doesn't work
[17:51] <jhutchins_lt> loic: bash will emulate sh if called as sh.
[17:51] <maco> um no
[17:51] <maco> sh in ubuntu is a symlink to dash
[17:51] <maco> so itll act like dash
[17:52] <maco> unless youre using dapper...?
[17:52] <loic> jhutchins_lt: ok, but the only thing i want is that /etc/bash.bashrc and ~/.bashrc are loaded
[17:52] <loic> maco: it's not really a ubuntu problem
[17:52] <loic> maco: just a debian one
[17:52] <maco> problem?
[17:53] <maco> dash is ubuntu's default sh. it is not debian's, AFAIK. they were debating switching to it but figured itd break a lot of scripts
[17:53] <loic> no, i mean, my question about how to set the default ssh login is not about ubuntu
[17:55] <loic> jhutchins_lt: I tried ssh user@host /bin/bash but it remains stuck just after i entered the password
[17:55] <jhutchins_lt> loic: Default ssh shell should come from /etc/passwd
[17:55] <loic> without /bin/bash at the end is ok
[17:55] <jhutchins_lt> loic: Does /bin/bash exist?
[17:55] <loic> jhutchins_lt: i look (for /etc/passwd)
[17:55] <loic> jhutchins_lt: yes
[17:56] <loic> jhutchins_lt: ok in /etc/passwd all logins shells are set to /bin/sh
[17:57] <loic> is there any way to change that for all users? (I won't edit this file manually because that way it won't work with future users)
[18:00] <jhutchins_lt> loic: There is a default template for new users that can be changed.
[18:00] <jhutchins_lt> usermod -s /bin/bash <user>
[18:07] <jhutchins_lt> /etc/adduser.conf can be changed to change the default used by adduser.
[18:17] <loic> jhutchins_lt: sorry, i was on the phone, thanks for all, i take a look and told you if it's ok, thanks ;)
[18:18] <agustin> !paste
[18:21] <haidoura> hey guys, I want to revert my ubutnu update from 9.10 back to 9.04.... can you point me to something helpful
[18:21] <jhutchins_lt> haidoura: Just restore the backup you made before the upgrade.
[18:21] <loic> jhutchins_lt: i usermod myself to change my default shell to /bin/bash and i try a new connection via ssh but i'm still getting an other shell
[18:22] <jhutchins_lt> loic: How are you determining what shell you have?
[18:22] <loic> jhutchins_lt:  here my /etc/passwd line horn:x:2524:2525::/home/horn:/bin/bash
[18:22] <haidoura> the desaster is that i lost my backup dvd
[18:22] <haidoura> :s
[18:22] <kalp> i am getting error: "could not start ksmserver. check your installation"
[18:22] <loic> jhutchins_lt: just looking that bashrc is not loaded
[18:22] <kalp> i am getting error: "could not start ksmserver. check your installation" what should i do?
[18:23] <genii> MK13: The word: all                 works
[18:23] <haidoura> I reached 9.10 by updating 9.04 and not from clean install
[18:24] <jhutchins_lt> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-191632.html
[18:24] <loic> jhutchins_lt: if i type bash in the current shell, my PS1 use colors and my aliases defined in /etc/bash.bashrc are loaded but if i don't launch bash manually, they're not
[18:24] <loic> jhutchins_lt: i take a look
[18:25] <loic> jhutchins_lt: that's exactly the problem I have, i have not found it in my searches, thanks
[18:29] <kalp> i am getting error: "could not start ksmserver. check your installation" what should i do?
[18:30] <roKB> http://rooparam.blogspot.com/
[18:31] <kalp> i am getting error: "could not start ksmserver. check your installation" what should i do?
[18:33] <roKB> visit http://rooparam.blogspot.com/ or http://www.futuredesktop.org
[18:34] <loic> jhutchins_lt: it's working
[18:35] <loic> jhutchins_lt: just one last thing, when i create a new user, no files .bash_profile is created in home folder
[18:35] <jhutchins_lt> kalp: Check your installation.
[18:35] <jhutchins_lt> loic: Create a default in /etc/skel/
[18:36] <iEatChildren> im running sudo apt-get update but nothing is updating....any ideas?
[18:37] <jhutchins_lt> kalp: What release are you trying to run?
[18:37] <jhutchins_lt> iEatChildren: 1) Configure your sources? 2) There aren't any updates?
[18:37] <iEatChildren> whats the latest version of kde in the repo's?
[18:38] <iEatChildren> im on 4.2.2
[18:39] <iEatChildren> nevermind...i found a link about upgrading to 4.3.2
[18:41] <jhutchins_lt> kalp: ?
[18:42] <iEatChildren> i added the repo in this article...still not getting the updates http://www.kubuntu.org/new/kde-4.3.2
[18:42] <iEatChildren> added the GPG key too
[18:48] <loic> jhutchins_lt: there's already one
[18:50] <jhutchins_lt> loic: Hm.  What are you using to create new users?
[18:51] <loic> useradd
[18:51] <jhutchins_lt> loic: Try adduser.
[18:51] <loic> jhutchins_lt: http://pastebin.com/d2a2b7e28
[18:52] <loic> ok, i'll try
[18:55] <loic> jhutchins_lt: that's better
[18:55] <loic> jhutchins_lt: i didn't knew that there were a difference between useradd and adduser
[18:55] <loic> jhutchins_lt: thank you for all your help
[18:55] <libervisco> still buggy :S
[18:55] <sourcemaker> which CPU ist faster... Athlon XP 3200+ or an Atom CPU=
[18:57] <jhutchins_lt> sourcemaker: Check the benchmarks.  It depends on what you're doing.  Generally the Athalon is going to be more powerful.
[18:57] <libervisco> kubuntu or KDE4.3 is still buggy as hel
[18:57] <jhutchins_lt> libervisco: KDE4.
[18:58] <roKB> Athlon XP 3200+, i think
[18:58] <jhutchins_lt> There's a lot of hardware that just doesn't handle it right, and the back-coding to deal with that is going to be limited.
[18:58] <libervisco> I wrote about its usability favorably recently, high praises and all, but this bugginess is really killing the experience..
[18:59] <libervisco> interface and the idea is one thing, but what use if the backend doesn't work right
[19:02] <javier__> ols
[19:02] <javier__> ola
[19:02] <javier__> HI
[19:04] <jhutchins_lt> libervisco: One good thing about KDE4 is that it's raising interest in alternative desktops.
[19:05] <marek_> My kubuntu doesn't save vertical refresh settings; after restart X there is auto settings (60Hz) again.
[19:06] <sven624> soo what's the problem ?
[19:07] <marek_> sorry horizontal
[19:09] <sven624> hmm not so much problems they i can solve ?
[19:09] <sven624> sorry for my bad english
[19:11] <sven624> REALLY nobody want to talk ?
[19:11] <sven624> REALLY nobody want to talk ?
[19:11] <marek_> And another problem: there is loop in kdm login process, after I enter login name and password after while i goes back to login screen.
[19:12] <Dekans> SOmeone using eclipse on Kubuntu
[19:12] <Dekans> ??
[19:46] <rosco_y> Does Kubuntu 9.04 require more hardware resources than 8.04?
[19:46] <rosco_y> I am trying to set a buddy up with kubuntu, and he has older hardware
[19:46] <genii> If it ran 8.04 then 9.04 should also run
[19:47] <cris_> hi
[19:47] <rosco_y> genii: ty, he's actually running winxp right now...
[19:47] <genii> (some intel stuff got broke but as far as ram and hd requirements, comparable as before)
[19:47] <jhutchins_lt> rosco_y: Avoid the 3D stuff though.
[19:47] <rosco_y> hi cris_
[19:47] <jhutchins_lt> Is KDE 3.x available in 904?
[19:47] <rosco_y> jhutchins_lt: I gotcha, just don't turn it on in the preferences, right?
[19:48] <jhutchins_lt> rosco_y: Yeah, and I'd avoid KDE4 if possible.
[19:48] <rosco_y> is KDE4 the default install on the kubuntu 9.04 iso download?
[19:48] <genii> Yes
[19:49] <rosco_y> Maybe it'd be safer (easier?) to just give him 8.04, for that reason
[19:49] <jhutchins_lt> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty
[19:49] <rosco_y> ty
[19:49] <genii> jhutchins_lt: 3.5 is available for 9.04 from Pearson Computing, but not an official release
[19:50] <rosco_y> It does look like it would have been what I was looking for tho
[19:51] <rosco_y> I'm thinking 8.04 is the way to go here...
[19:52] <rosco_y> He'd probably be more quickly more self-sufficient with an official release
[19:53] <rosco_y> "more quickly more self-sufficient", that one had me spinning
[19:53] <rosco_y> "get up to speed quicker", yes, yes...
[19:55] <rosco_y> ty peoples, see you on the clover-leaf
[19:57] <suman> how do i enable spanish keyboard?
[20:08] <xago> buenas tardes a todos...:D
[20:08] <genii> !es
[20:09] <xago> tengo instalado evolution como correo, pero cuando intento abrir un archivo adjunto me dice "Could not open the link. No application is registered as handling file"
[20:09] <jamesjedimaster> !es | xago
[20:09] <genii> !es | xago
[20:11] <suman> what you just type !es in the console??
[20:12] <genii> suman: To get to the spanish channel, it's /join #ubuntu-es      (or #kubuntu-es)
[20:12] <genii> suman: To just make the bot recite the factoid about it, !es
[20:12] <suman> genii: thanks
[20:23] <ddurham> anyone know a good USB wifi adapter for linux?
[20:24] <xago> People, I have evolution installed on my system, but when I try to open an attached file, I received following message "Could not open the link. No application is registered as handling file" Some may tell what's wrong?
[20:26] <jhutchins_lt> xago: Whatever type of file that is doesn't have a pre-set handler.
[20:27] <xago> correct!!!
[20:27] <jhutchins_lt> xago: I avoid gnome, so I don't know where it links filetypes to handlers, but there should be a way.  Try right-click on the file, open with, remember.
[20:28] <CupofDice> Hey all, i have sound and video in Dragon Player and Amarok, yet i can't hear video on flash videos and apple trailers don't even play. Any ideas?
[20:28] <kiran_> hi
[20:29] <noren> CupofDice: get the flash plug in from adept
[20:29] <xago> jhutchins_lt: I have only "Save as:" option
[20:29] <CupofDice> i already have flash xago
[20:29] <CupofDice> the non-free version
[20:30] <kiran_> hi my wireless internet is not working. Can anybody help to set this up right?
[20:30] <jhutchins_lt> xago: Might ask in ubuntu, that's more gnome-oriented.
[20:30] <xago> CupofDice: I didn't understand
[20:30] <noren> !sound | CupofDice
[20:31] <xago> jhutchins: I'll see there, thanks
[20:33] <CupofDice> ubottu, I assume you meant 'Multimedia'? Cause that is the only thing i can find. Doesn't have an option.
[20:34] <CupofDice> xago, what didn't you understand?
[20:34] <xago> CupofDice: you says: "<CupofDice> i already have flash xago"
[20:35] <CupofDice> yeah, I already have flash installed. Is there a plugin for konqueror?
[20:36] <CupofDice> I already have flashplugin-installer installed
[20:36] <CupofDice> i guess i am missing something
[20:37] <xago> I have had not talked before with you my friend....anyway...what's your issue?
[20:37] <CupofDice> oh, i see. my fault
[20:39] <CupofDice> anyway, my Dragon Player plays videos with sound. Looking to get Konqueror with sound-in-flash (it plays video flash with no problem) and I also can't see apple trailers. I think I am missing a plugin of some sort, but I can't think what it is
[20:39] <xago> CupofDice: don't worry :D
[20:40] <xago> Did you check with Firefox?
[20:40] <CupofDice> yeah, no sound in firefox either
[20:40] <Weezy_> Y'a du francais !! ??
[20:42] <CupofDice> Kubuntu 9.04 by default uses xine and phonom right?
[20:42] <xago> I know about Xine...Phonom?
[20:42] <genii> !fr | Weezy_
[20:43] <jhutchins_lt> flash uses alsa.
[20:43] <CupofDice> well, something like phonom. I know it starts with a P :D
[20:45] <CupofDice> jhutchins_lt, if you mean alsa-firmware, I already have that installed.
[20:45] <jhutchins_lt> pulseaudio?
[20:46] <CupofDice> I uninstalled pulseaudio earlier, cause I read somewhere it conflicts with something. Installing now to see
[20:48] <jhutchins_lt> CupofDice: There's something about flash that expects a real alsa system I think.  You have to patch & recompile it to work with phonon.
[20:48] <jhutchins_lt> I may be mis-remembering though.
[20:48] <jhutchins_lt> (Something from ltsp)
[20:49] <mik__> ciao
[20:51] <DoubleD84> Do you even need a swap partition with 4gb of ram?
[20:59] <gioele> hello
[21:01] <geos_de> hi
[21:06] <jhutchins_lt> DoubleD84: I wouldn't go for over 4g of swap, but it's nice to have something.
[21:08] <DoubleD84> jhutchins_lt: thanks.. that sounds like a reasonable number.. i've read some articles saying you should go 2x or 4x memory which seems a little excessive
[21:23] <CupofDice> jhutchins_lt, if you are still there, i just came across this thread- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1297265 - which mentioned pcm, and even though i looked at the mixer before, for some reason i didn't turn the pcm up (thought it was something not important) thanks
[21:30] <jhutchins_lt> DoubleD84: Those specs date back to when we all had a lot less RAM.
[21:39] <DoubleD84> argh... any idea why my system would lock up when i try to run gparted off the livecd... tested the drive with seatools.. short & long tests (passed).. and formatted... grrr
[21:43] <high-rez> So, evolution in karmic is pretty broken, at least with the MAPI plugin.
[21:46] <avihayb> DoubleD84: push comes to shove, you can always use the command line
[21:49] <DoubleD84> avihayb: i'm just trying to get a desktop rolling so i can get some stuff done.. I've taken a day and I haven't even got a partition scheme
[21:50] <avihayb> I guessed that much
[21:50] <DoubleD84> testing RAM now.. and burning another install disc on the other computer.. the one i was using locks up intermittently
[21:51] <avihayb> you had a problem with the installer last night? when was stuck on formating?
[21:51] <avihayb> it*
[21:52] <DoubleD84> exactly, so i burned seatools and ran short/long tests which passed.. then i formatted so i wouldnt have any issues
[21:53]  * DoubleD84 is still having issues
[21:53] <DoubleD84> lol
[21:57] <DoYouKnow> DoubleD84: with what?
[21:58] <avihayb> maybe you should try another software other then gparted
[22:00] <DoubleD84> well i'm going to let memtest make atleast one pass and im going to burn a new install cd and try that.. if that doesnt work what other software do you suggest?
[22:02] <BluesKaj> DoubleD84, is it the latest GParted version ? If you are trying to partiton an ext4 for example the older versions don't have that option
[22:03] <DoubleD84> well..  looks like i purchased bad ram...
[22:03]  * DoubleD84 could really throw around a few expletives right no
[22:03] <DoubleD84> now*
[22:06] <jhutchins_lt> DoubleD84: There was a guy on one of the channels earlier who had his ram fail memtest.  He tested each module individually, both passed, he put 'em back in together and everything was fine.
[22:07] <jhutchins_lt> When in doubt, take it apart and put it back together again.
[22:07] <DoubleD84> already running off one stick
[22:14] <figaro42> Does anybody know if there's an ubuntu one client for KDE yet?
[22:14] <MadAGu> hello... is there any ppa to install kde 4.4?
[22:21] <avihayb> in kde.org, there is only 4.3
[22:21] <avihayb> so either 4.4 is highly experimental, or I don't know
[22:31] <reagleBRKLN> i'm trying to move from 3.5.10 to 4.3, in 3, when i log back in i have 3 tabs open in knosole, but in 4, how does one restore saved sessions?
[22:32] <gigasoft> is there dvd player emulator for watching dvd's
[22:35] <jamesjedimaster> the ubuntu client is for both ubuntu and kubuntu
[22:35] <derek_> woow
[22:42] <DoubleD84> so.. 1000+ errors from memtest on one stick.. trying it in a different slot just to be sure
[22:48] <avihayb> DoubleD84: may I venture to guess that you moved from windows because it was crashing every 5 min?
[22:49] <angelo> list
[22:58] <DoubleD84> not really. windows is just too bloated. I pay for this hardware to run what I ant. Not what the general population wants to have
[23:02] <DoubleD84> mostly i kept it because of games which i dont have time for anymore (and i picked up a ps3 anyway)
[23:02] <DoubleD84> that stick of ram is definitely bad though.. :(
[23:04] <thierry> hi all,
[23:05] <thierry> is there someone t?
[23:05] <thierry> is there someone that can help me
[23:05] <DoubleD84> sort of.. the usual procedure is just ask your question and idle
[23:06] <DoubleD84> if someone notices and can help, they will
[23:06] <thierry> I need to remote control an windows xp client from a ubuntu 9.04 pc (using default remote application from xp)
[23:08] <DoubleD84> well i highly doubt that there will be an app to use microsofts default remote sharing. you should look at other vnc options in linux.. a quick google shows up tightvnc
[23:10] <thierry> ok thank for the info doubled84, I will test it
[23:10] <thierry> thanks a lot
[23:16] <agustin_> mama?
[23:17] <avihayb> thierry: you can use an rdcp in ubuntu
[23:17] <Dragnslcr> thierry- krdc can connect to a Windows
[23:19] <thierry> krdc is it a package into synaptics?
[23:19] <avihayb> thierry: actually, kubuntu should come with a program called krdc by deafult, it lets you connect to bouth rdc and vnc servers
[23:19] <Dragnslcr> It's installed by default
[23:20] <avihayb> rdc-> microsol's Remote Desktop Connection
[23:20] <Dragnslcr> You mean RDP
[23:20] <thierry> yes, but i'am not on the good irc channel, because I use ubuntu and not kubuntu
[23:21] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, you should ask in #ubuntu then
[23:21] <thierry> okay thanks a lot for your help
[23:21] <avihayb> rdp-> microsol's Remote Desktop connection Protocol
[23:21] <Dragnslcr> I don't know what Gnome has for an RDP client
[23:23] <thierry> thanks to all I test it (tsclient on gnome)
[23:23] <thierry> tsclient= terminal server client
[23:24] <thierry> thanks again
[23:45] <sourcemaker> how can I determine... which users are allowed for system login?
[23:45] <sourcemaker> like root and my peronal user