[00:00] maybe it's a problem with remote users [00:00] i'm back. the problem goes away after I change the session in kdm. auto login is workin fine now [00:00] that remote users are not allowed to run stuff [00:00] but when i sudo plasma it starts, only everything on desktop is root, and i cant change back to normal user [00:00] talvik: gz :) === LJL is now known as lJl [00:01] tred: thats why you shouldn't start x apps as root [00:01] seems remote users would be blocked from blocked sudo before blocking anything else [00:01] especially not apps that start other apps and gui stuff [00:01] what's the error message when you try to start as normal user? [00:01] im not trying to start anything as root, except as a fact i cant start it otherwise [00:02] without the exact error message nobody can help you cause nobody knows whats goin on :D [00:02] i think it was command not found [00:02] lun4tic: what do you think of the default font size? [00:02] is the vnc kde running in some sandbox? [00:02] brb, i will check again, with normal user /usr/bin/ plasma [00:03] talvik: what's with the font? [00:03] standard x11vnc [00:03] didn't get that question [00:03] are there steghide users? [00:03] brb [00:03] lun4tic: i think the default is 8 [00:03] in kdm? [00:04] or what [00:04] in kde after login [00:05] if i only want one instance of firefox to open do i delete the default profile of firefox? [00:05] dejavu sans 8 [00:05] yes [00:05] @talvik [00:06] ncfi1013: what does the number of profiles have to do with the number of instances firefox starts? [00:07] ncfi1013: normally there is only one instance [00:07] lun4tic: everytime i opened firefox two instances would open at the same time [00:07] hm.. [00:07] opening it from where? just a desktop icon ? [00:07] the real binary? [00:08] or are you running some script [00:08] carpii: opening it using alt-f2 [00:08] "ps aux |grep firefox" what das that say? [00:08] other them those two, there are only a few kde rough edges. plugins and driver installer works fast, easy and works! [00:09] lun4tic: "ps aux |grep firefox" run that in the terminal? [00:09] yes [00:10] it should show your grep command [00:10] and the running instances of firefox [00:12] lun4tic: is there a space between the pole and grep? "| grep" like that? [00:12] doesn't matter [00:12] oh ok [00:12] spaces only matter in word processing apps and in login/passwords [00:13] lun4tic what does this mean: ncfi1013 18802 0.0 0.0 3336 796 pts/2 S+ 18:13 0:00 grep firefox [00:14] that is the programm you are running [00:14] ps aux shows all processes you have running [00:15] | gives the output to the app behind the | [00:15] and grep firefox shows only the firefox lines in the output of ps aux [00:15] lun4tic so i can keep the default firefox profile and it wont hurt anything? [00:15] so it's a "command chain" somehow [00:16] there is an explenation about pipes in the ubunchu comix [00:16] not at all [00:16] thanx [00:16] http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/ubunchu-chapter-02-is-here/ [00:17] <`Onyx> IS there a manual way to change the time on my clock? It's changed to daylight savings setting for some reason [00:19] `Onyx: there's a time and date applet in the system settings [00:19] damn the time server still, doesn't work [00:20] <`Onyx> Where might I find those avihayb? [00:21] when you kilck on the k-menu (the "start" button, you should get a list of favorite applications [00:21] <`Onyx> oh haha [00:21] <`Onyx> Thanks [00:21] System settings should be there [00:22] <`Onyx> Thanks mate [00:23] my pleasure. [00:25] lun4tic: the msg i get when i try to start plasma as user is the msg about COMPOSITE-less [00:26] when i sudo plasma i get no such msg [00:26] the default g++ in kubuntu isnow 4.4 === lJl is now known as LjL === Paraselene__ is now known as Paraselene_ [01:10] tred: so turn of compositing locally [01:10] then i guess it will work [01:11] compisiting doesn't work over network i think [01:11] Would anyone happen to know of an Irssi script (or other sort of script that works with or could be easily adapted to work with Irssi) that can give me a 'now playing' function with Amarok? The old one I had has been broken since KDE 4. === jscudder is now known as scudder [01:11] tred: so when you want to use the system over vnc don't turn on the fancy 3d stuff [01:13] Hi ! I have troubles installing ati drivers. Downloaded many packages and followed many how-to's. Clicking the green button in the Hardware Driver GUI won't do anything. Anyone can help ? [01:15] I edited xorg.conf and caused crashes. Makes me wary of doing anything. I badly need a hand... [01:19] does anyone know how to turn of mouse wheel desktop switching? [01:20] no one around? [01:20] uhh lemme look [01:20] thanks :) [01:21] ubox, you mean while hovering on the desktop? [01:21] yes [01:23] ubox: sorry i cant find it [01:23] should be possible in 4.4 once it's relesaed, from what I hear around the dev blogs^ [01:25] I'm runing kde/openbox, and it's on by deafult [01:27] Hi ! I have troubles installing ati drivers. Downloaded many packages and followed many how-to's. Clicking the green button in the Hardware Driver GUI won't do anything. Anyone can help ? [01:28] have you tryed the envyng package? I'm not recommending it [01:29] thanks for the help :) [01:29] envyng ? never heard of it [01:30] charles_: and, what card model [01:30] Just loaded ubuntu for the first time about a day ago and I've got the hang of it already! [01:30] Just thought Id say that! [01:30] hows kde 4.x looking these days? many issues ? I tried 4.1 and it was utter rubbish [01:30] maurice: great! [01:30] but im facing facts that i gotta migrate at some point :/ [01:31] carpii: 4.2 was decent and 4.3's got some great touch-ups [01:31] Cheers MACO [01:31] maurice: welcome to the community :) [01:31] is it stable? [01:31] tHANKS A LOT GUYS [01:31] but still systemsettings does not have administrator mode... [01:31] ooops [01:31] carpii: It's a bit heavier, but since 4.2.2, it's fully useable [01:31] or is there a 'outstanding bug list' i can view ? [01:31] heavier as in cpu/resources? [01:31] kpackagekit can't switch to root for installing [01:32] carpii: 4.3.1 is whats in 9.10 [01:32] yhe, I guess, It's just slower. I've installed 9.04 on this p4 1.5GHZ with 512MB not a high end machine [01:32] yeah, im still on 8.04 though [01:32] i darent risk upgrading until i hear good things :( [01:33] carpii: kpackagekit is rather boned. either install synaptic or use the command line if youre comfortable with that. other than that, looks good [01:33] a lot depends on graphic card in kde4 [01:33] and it was slow, alt tabbing was very annoying. at first I installed kde3, it sped things up abit [01:33] hm, i normally use adept tbh, but by cmdline you mean sudo apt-get ? [01:33] avihayb: did you have compositing turned on? [01:33] carpii: yes, apt-get [01:34] ok thanks [01:34] try aptitude [01:34] carpii: no kde4 adept, so kpackagekit is in use in 9.x, but its kinda broken [01:34] sobczyk: either works [01:34] i take it theres no way to roll back after? without backing up entire drive ? [01:34] had it on and of. sometimes, compositing would actually speed things up [01:34] carpii: nope [01:34] ok, thanks [01:34] *shrug* i dont use kwin. im a tiling window manager type [01:35] except the admin mode and kpackagekit (which is installed by default somehow) the 9.10 is really great :) [01:35] I never could adept to adept. actually, the way I see it, adept never adapted to people, so it got extinced... [01:35] avihayb: sounds right to me! [01:36] i got so brain-boggled trying to figure out adept to fix a friend's system, i gave up and went command line. i was a gnome user at the time [01:39] maco: I'm a kde user, and the first software I install is synaptic [01:39] i only switched to kde when 4.2 came out [01:39] people asking for help with 4.0 confuse me [01:48] computers really piss me off some times... [01:48] selam [01:49] * genii sics an ARM-based system on DoubleD84 [01:50] :-> [01:50] lol [01:52] honestly i replaced a motherboard after it slowly fried 4gb of ram and now that i've got a new board and ram I can't find any install discs i need. I'm stuck using the laptop that the kids tore half the bloody keys off of to download ne images only to realize that the burner is NFG too [01:52] and i've got 3 small kids that are supposed to be in bed [01:53] * DoubleD84 vent over [01:53] i found a jaunty install cd [01:55] :-> you should do something about kids destroying laptop issue [01:55] that would involve beating the wife and that wont do me any good either [01:56] * genii gets the downtrodden wife to write some code\\ [02:23] when installing jaunty from the install disc.. and you select the partitions you want mounted/formatted does it format when you hit 'forward'? I can't tell if its locked up [02:26] the cursor says busy and the monitor will turn off eventually but there is no hard drive activity and it just seems to be taking a while.. its a 200gb partition that i'm formatting so i'm hoping that's the issue [02:27] It ahouldn't be [02:28] I suggest you go to the liveCD, install something nice like gPartEd, format by yourself, and then retry installing if it's an issue [02:29] well im going to hop in the shower and if its still idling when i get out i'll give it a shot [02:29] mine took a little while on a 150gb, long enough i touched the mouse a few times to keep the screen awake [02:30] ubox.. well i hope that's all it is [02:30] me too :) [02:34] there is a guy called charles__. if he comes by and asks for me, please tell him I went to sleep [02:34] ok === LjL-Temp is now known as LjL [02:46] hmm its still going... :( === lucas_ is now known as I_was_lucas [03:09] The USB install (w. persistent changes) mode from the live CD will create an installation that keeps changes in memory until system shutdown, minimizing wear on flash media, am I right? [03:13] Ch3mtail: yeah [03:13] Good to know for sure, I don't want to wear the poor thing out. [03:22] Hey all [03:22] The first thing i see when upgrading to a Kubuntu 9.10 is a dialog box telling me that Akonadi didn't start [03:22] this seems pretty important to fix === root is now known as Guest49166 === GodFather_ is now known as GodFather [03:25] JohnFlux: I saw that error on my jaunty install ever since I installed kde 4.3 [03:25] about a week ago, it fixed itself [03:25] it never caused me any problems, other than a little annoyance at having to clear the error message [03:34] russlar: well, the bug seems to have returned [03:35] it's there in a default upgrade to 9.10 [03:35] It will be annoying in 9.10 is shipped with this bug :-/ [03:35] I don't think it's a 9.10 bug, it's a kde bug [03:36] if it's even a bug at all [03:46] Hi, i just intall the daily release of kubuntu on my sdb with windows 7 on the sda and the grub freezes at the "GRUB loading" and nothing happend [03:46] any ideas how to fix? im using the live cd [03:51] Is it normal to have both kdm and kdm-kde4 starting in init.d or is the kdm-kde4 left over. I get an error that kdm-kde4 is already shut down when I shut down. [03:55] I'd assum I can just execute a "sudo update-rc.d -f kdm-kde4 remove" with no side effects. Opinions welcome. === ubuntu is now known as andre === andre is now known as blabla [03:57] someone knows where I can get new kde wallpapr as in https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KarmicKoala/RC/Kubuntu?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=screen1-wee.png ? === jim is now known as Guest70033 [04:27] test dari Bandung.... [04:29] hey i need some help with getting different background for each workspace im using kde with jaunty [04:30] anyone [04:30] one sec [04:30] kk [04:31] ?? [04:32] * zeb turns on the jeopardy song [04:33] zeb http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=7671 [04:38] how's the beta? anyone have opinion's? [04:38] thinking about putting a non linux users on it... [04:38] the ctrl shift p and ctrl shift n method doesnt switch the desktop [04:44] does anyone know how to make flash run ok with konqueror? [04:47] aham, any one?? [04:50] !konqueror [04:50] Sorry, I don't know anything about konqueror [05:06] does any one has the same issue that i do? [05:12] Hello === shiny_ is now known as shinygiftson === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor [06:06] did any one hear anything about firefox qt ? [06:10] lucas_: well, I was working on it for a while [06:11] lucas_: what do you want to know? [06:11] is that still in develpment or they just quit [06:12] lucas_: well, I personally gave up on it. It can be shoehorned it, but what's the point? [06:12] *in [06:12] just wanted to know if there is any package arround with firefox-qt suppont [06:12] support [06:13] lucas_: hmm, I'm talking about getting the renderer to use Qt. Maybe you are just asking about having Qt-styled buttons for the user interface? [06:13] lucas_: if so, that works etc. Dunno if there's a firefox-qt package [06:13] in ubuntu [06:14] k thanks [06:40] whats this? === jake_ is now known as sage_in_space === ocs_ is now known as ocsocs [07:46] How do I get a list of drives for grub? [07:49] quick question if anyone is around? [07:50] shouldnt kubuntu 9.04 have a task bar of some sort? [07:51] hi, what's the name of KDE the app used to change cpu frequency or for example screen brightness and when you run it it's accessible via icon in system tray, please? [07:54] it seems that everyone is asleep hanzz [07:54] im awake [07:54] I see :) [07:57] what version are you running hanzz? [07:59] jaunty [08:03] got it [08:03] guidance-power-manager [08:03] yeah i just upgraded to that version and for some reason i have no taskbar? === Jan is now known as Guest5618 [08:31] when I plug in an SD card, I get a notice about plugged in devices, but I have to open them in Dolphin before I can access them in a terminal. how can I change this? [08:43] Hi.. [08:48] Is there any backtrack help channel out there? [08:49] Or what program should I download for sniffing hidden wireless networks? [08:53] !info aircrackng [08:53] Package aircrackng does not exist in jaunty [08:53] !info aircrack-ng [08:53] aircrack-ng (source: aircrack-ng): wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0~rc3-1 (jaunty), package size 1394 kB, installed size 2388 kB [08:54] already downloaded it ;) [08:54] knoxville: please note, we dont support illegal activities, so please use it only for legitimate use cases [08:54] !info kismet [08:54] kismet (source: kismet): Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2008-05-R1-4build1 (jaunty), package size 937 kB, installed size 2360 kB [08:58] Thanks Jussi! :) [09:31] hi there i have problem when updating my kubuntu [09:31] The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork! [09:33] any 1 can help me ! [09:41] Hi, it's the fist time that I come here [09:41] I have a question [09:42] when I plug my laptop to a video projector, the screen resolution isn't correct on the wall screen [09:42] what can I do? [09:43] danielsp: do you manage to configure it after you plugged it to the video projector? [09:44] no [09:44] i didn't do anything [10:00] does anyone knows where i can find some online tutorials about PHP 5.0 ? [10:01] did u google? [10:01] yes,but i founded just some tutorials (3,4,5) i need more [10:01] more lessons [10:02] u can get it from torrent [10:02] mininova [10:02] get an ebook and go on ith that [10:05] yes but i need some [10:05] [10:05] rehearsal [10:05] for tomorrow [10:34] help [10:34] rrors were encountered while processing: [10:34] /var/cache/apt/archives/splashy_0.3.13-5ubuntu1_i386.deb [10:34] kbubntu 9.10 [10:49] there was this nich view in konqi where i can search graphically for file and folder space hogs? [10:49] where is it gone? [10:49] cant find it anymore [10:53] does anyone know an application (for ubuntu 8.04) that can record my screen ? [10:53] konqueror-plugin-fsview [10:58] !info istanbul [10:58] istanbul (source: istanbul): Desktop session recorder producing Ogg Theora video. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.2-4.1 (jaunty), package size 73 kB, installed size 616 kB [10:58] !info krecordmydesktop [10:58] Package krecordmydesktop does not exist in jaunty [10:59] !screencast [10:59] Some programs to capture your screen are recordmydesktop, Istanbul, Wink, Xvidcap, pyvnc2swf. Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts. [10:59] ionut_: ^^ [11:01] hi [11:01] thank you s much jussion1 [11:02] ionut_: also, use tab to complete nick names, makes thingks much easier ;) [11:04] jussi01: ur right (thx) [11:05] jussi01: one more question : Which of this u recomand to me ? (if u know that one is better than all )? [11:05] !u | ionut_ [11:05] ionut_: U is the 21st letter of the modern latin alphabet. Neither 'U' or 'Ur' are words in the English language. Nor are 'R', 'Y', 'l8', 'Ne1' or 'Bcuz'. Mangled English is hard for non-native English speakers. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/abbreviations/ for more information. [11:06] ionut_: Im sorry, I really havent used them. however I have heard good things about recordmydesktop and istanbul. best just to give them a try [11:06] lolz @ ubootu. ur crzy [11:06] carpii: ubottu is a bot, and I called her. [11:07] i know. i mistyped its nick anyway :( [11:08] thank you jussi01 [11:09] ionut_: yw [11:17] jussi01: i think recordmydesktop is verry good [11:59] umm, how do you clean an LCD screen? is a normal window cleaning liquid ok? (yes, the machine is runing kubuntu [12:07] i have install konqueror-plugin-fsview, but there is no new opion in konqi [12:08] هل من احد يتكلم العربية [12:10] any body speak arabic ??? [12:13] how to update my kde 4.2.2 to kde 4.3.1 ?? === miguel is now known as Guest11652 [12:36] Why do I have blocked updates? I update my computer regularly... What causes them to be blocked? They are Linux-headers-generic-2.6.28.15.20(amd64) same for restricted-modules, generic and image-generic [12:48] i there a graphical tool to find space hogs === ubuntu_ is now known as jbvlakjdskl === starcraftman is now known as WikiNinja === WikiNinja is now known as starcraftman [12:55] stephan__: There's filelight [13:01] is there an ubuntu one client for KDE? [13:02] . === avihayb__ is now known as avihayb_ [13:04] stephan__: you mean to find where all your disk space is disappearing to? === richard is now known as Guest90825 === guilherme is now known as Guest64458 [13:30] avihayb_: yes [14:11] good morning....friends === LjL-Temp is now known as LjL [14:18] hi all, can someone tell me where the Disk & filesystems in systemsettings went? [14:31] ... [14:31] hello there [14:32] any one alive in there? [14:33] Hi folks [14:33] hi BluesKaj [14:33] hi trijntje === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [14:47] check [15:08] hey there good morning 2 u all [15:08] * genii puts on more coffee [15:08] ?? [15:08] morning? [15:08] i need help i was using amarook just fine but now it wont play anysong [15:08] 21:10 here [15:08] here is 9.08 am [15:09] http://packages.ubunut.com/hardy/kde/adept-batch [15:10] it says some media could not be loaded (not playabe) why is this happening? how can i fix it? help pls [15:10] ah ... [15:10] it same what happened to me [15:10] hi, just one short question: will the dist upgrade to karmic koala break things like an installed ati-driver and so on? [15:10] so do u know anyway to fix it? [15:11] i dont know hehe [15:11] txs [15:11] any1 else pls? [15:21] does anyone here use pidgin? [15:22] i use to [15:22] not anymore [15:23] tough is a nice messenger [15:23] tough? [15:24] he meant though [15:24] u got that right bb txs [15:24] fingerprint mistakes [15:24] hehehehehe [15:25] I'd use kopete but it's broken for yahoo [15:25] the same is with pidgin [15:26] at least kopete for kde 3 [15:26] its got to do something with the protocols ther must be someone aroung here that can tell u how to fix it [15:26] is really simple and easy thing is i cant remember how to do it [15:26] * genii quassels [15:32] what happens with yahoo on kopete? [15:32] does it not sign in, ...? [15:33] either kopete or pidgin wont connect yahoo accounts [15:33] yes lascivus kopete does not sign in with yahoo [15:33] I'm using Kopete version 0.70.4 with no porblems [15:34] works with yahoo [15:35] i have 3.5.10 and it just go on line with my yahoo account === root is now known as cocolino [15:36] i mean i just wont go online with my yahoo account [15:37] gasp [15:37] uhm, once again: will the upgrade to karmic koala *probably* break things linke an installed ati-driver? If so, I'll wait before installing it [15:37] white_pelican, luis_, I believe its an issue with yahoo's DNS servers [15:37] is karmic out, yet [15:37] nop [15:37] yahoo is fine [15:37] trijntje, I know, but it used to work with other chat programs [15:37] till this AM [15:37] now pidgin is vroken [15:38] broken* [15:38] but pidgin breaks for all my chat programs [15:38] is got to do something with protocols [15:38] there a guy here i cant remember hes nick he told me how to fix it [15:38] and i did [15:39] but that was befoer months ago [15:39] I connected to cs118.msg.ac4.yaho:mmcc [15:39] i change os then i came back to kubuntu [15:39] with no problems [15:39] nvidia! [15:39] and now i cant remember how to do it [15:39] thanks anyway luis [15:39] 63.251.179.28 [15:39] sorry couldn help you [15:40] sven624: i never used kubuntu before, so I don't know if upgrades in general remove drivers [15:40] best thing u can do is to keep asking at severl times this guy hve to connect and he'll tell you how to fix it really is simple [15:50] moving to fresh 9.10 I'd like to reinstall top level packages. Is there any CLI way to extract/find the top level packages only (minimal set) in my current 9.04? [15:55] can anybody tell me how to install nvidia drivers [15:55] look for them on adept manager [15:56] how [15:56] i assume u have kubuntu right? [15:56] ? [15:57] i just switched from ubuntu [15:57] what version do u have? [15:57] 9.10 [15:57] i c [15:57] ok just go to menu [15:58] look for system [15:58] and once there look for adept manager [15:59] forget that !! can u just tell me package name for nvidia 8400gs [15:59] lordganesh_: why don't you run jockey-gtk? [15:59] lordganesh_: oh sorry, you use kubuntu? [15:59] lordganesh_: jockey-kde [15:59] what is that [16:00] lordganesh_: Restricted drivers manager [16:00] just put that into terminal === root is now known as Guest83557 [16:03] oh thanks .........but problem is not that simple ..let me explain problem in detail... i have installed previous downloaded packages using dpkg...and then activated nvidia drivers in ubuntu....but after restart system gives low graphics error [16:04] :/ [16:04] lordganesh_: try purging all nvidia related packages then install via jockey [16:05] i have done that also .it doesn't help [16:08] lordganesh_: try: cd / && sudo find . -name nvidia > list.txt [16:08] lordganesh_: then open up list.txt and check if there are any files left [16:11] hello. I have just configured the Kmail client for my imap gmail id. But i wanted to know how we can configure the signature in kmail? [16:12] can anyone helpme in this [16:12] kitply: Yes you can configure the signature in kmail. [16:13] jhutchins: can you tell me the steps/navigations? [16:13] kitply: Settings/configure kmail/identity (modify). [16:14] quinstasan : i m trying that it has searched four files ./etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/nvidia [16:14] ./usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.28-11-generic/include/config/fb/nvidia [16:14] ./usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.28-11/drivers/video/nvidia [16:14] ./lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia [16:14] lordganesh_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [16:14] jhutchins_lt: Thanks jhutchins_lt, i found it [16:23] it appears that an update last night, one of which was to poppler, broke pidgin [16:23] can someone help? === alex___ is now known as Apphl [16:45] does anyone know how to change the konqueror's useragent to a custom one for all sites, not just one at a time? [16:51] help plz, http://codepad.org/cNDK0LbX [16:52] hi, trying to rename some mp3s in 9.04 using krename, but i don't seem to have the option of renaming based on id3 tags [16:54] mfraz74: krename doesnt have that ability, its just for renaming files. [16:54] i know, i want to rename them based on the id3 tags like i could in kubuntu 8.04 [16:55] help plz, http://codepad.org/cNDK0LbX [16:58] MK13: Maybe putting a * for the URL field of "When browsing the following site" === lucas_ is now known as nn === nn is now known as nn__ === root is now known as Guest49161 [17:01] genii, it wont accept the '*' character [17:02] right now my network is blocking me b/c it doesnt recognize the useragent [17:04] Hello everyone. Im new to ubuntu. :) [17:04] Guest49161: welcome [17:05] I was wondering... lol this is a very remedial problem and Im almost too ashamed to ask. :| After I install Apache, where in the file system is are my web pages that I edit? :P [17:05] /var/www [17:05] wow. so simple. ok ty [17:06] ^^^ *usually [17:06] Hrmm... there is no /var/www [17:06] then check your apache.conf file, another root must have been given [17:06] Have you changed the folder ? [17:06] ok ty [17:07] no [17:07] fresh install [17:07] hmm it's really apache ? [17:07] Actually, It's Xampp [17:08] Guest49161, and when you go to your computer's ip in a browers it has a "It Works!" message? [17:08] Well, I had to forward some ports on my wifi, but ya... [17:08] Guest49161, then read Xampp's documentation [17:08] I get the welcome screen from my vista box [17:09] hehe i tried and got lost. :/ lol [17:09] Guest49161, is the Xampp in portable mode or installed? [17:09] hmm anywhere must be a "htdocs" folder [17:09] installed [17:10] ya, I see htdocs [17:10] that is it [17:10] ok it looks like 3.0.14 of Krename doesn't work properly in Kubuntu 9.04 [17:10] Guest49161, check that folder for an index.html [17:11] No, there must be a index.php [17:11] MK13: Thanks. I just found it. ;) [17:11] There is an index.php and all the include files and image folder and everything. [17:11] ty ty ty vm [17:12] sven624, right... i forgot about Xampp's front page thing [17:12] is Screem a good html editor? [17:12] try Knote [17:12] tyvm [17:13] Guest49161, to me kate is a good one :D [17:13] or kwrite [17:13] yes, i would say kate [17:13] not knote [17:14] Kate also has a dumb auto complete feature, it's very helpfull when you have to write repetative keywords [17:15] you can try openoffice.org write you can export html-files [17:16] oo.org doesn't produce very clean html [17:17] hmm, right too. BUT it works === avihayb__ is now known as avihayb_ [17:17] i tend to use kwrite to write php these days [17:20] problem solved ? [17:20] Can Dragonplayer be used for playback in Konqueror on Kubuntu 9.04? [17:23] try it [17:26] thats boring without any problems === root is now known as Guest70358 [17:30] Real web developers use vi. [17:31] not very easy to use [17:31] vim is better, it's vi improved [17:31] so. i go away [17:34] I agree with the use of vi :) [17:41] jamesjedimaster: Encourages clean HTML. [17:42] Not the wasteful crud with style markups for empty elements. [17:42] that's right [17:47] ok hehe I got everything to work great except I dont know the default login/pw of the XAMPP ftp server. Any ideas where I can find that? [17:48] hi [17:48] does anyone know how to change the default ssh shell [17:48] Hello. :) [17:49] loic: To what for instance? [17:49] because i don't understand why but sh is launched and not bash [17:49] loic: I'm pretty sure it pulls the shell from the user's environment. [17:49] *buntu doesn't use bash iirc. [17:49] indeed [17:50] whereis sh tells me /bin/sh and /bin/sh is a symbolic link on /bin/bash [17:50] ssh (user@) /bin/bash [17:50] jhutchins_lt: I know and i try to change it with the chsh command to bash but it doesn't work [17:51] loic: bash will emulate sh if called as sh. [17:51] um no [17:51] sh in ubuntu is a symlink to dash [17:51] so itll act like dash [17:52] unless youre using dapper...? [17:52] jhutchins_lt: ok, but the only thing i want is that /etc/bash.bashrc and ~/.bashrc are loaded [17:52] maco: it's not really a ubuntu problem [17:52] maco: just a debian one [17:52] problem? [17:53] dash is ubuntu's default sh. it is not debian's, AFAIK. they were debating switching to it but figured itd break a lot of scripts [17:53] no, i mean, my question about how to set the default ssh login is not about ubuntu [17:55] jhutchins_lt: I tried ssh user@host /bin/bash but it remains stuck just after i entered the password [17:55] loic: Default ssh shell should come from /etc/passwd [17:55] without /bin/bash at the end is ok [17:55] loic: Does /bin/bash exist? [17:55] jhutchins_lt: i look (for /etc/passwd) [17:55] jhutchins_lt: yes [17:56] jhutchins_lt: ok in /etc/passwd all logins shells are set to /bin/sh [17:57] is there any way to change that for all users? (I won't edit this file manually because that way it won't work with future users) [18:00] loic: There is a default template for new users that can be changed. [18:00] usermod -s /bin/bash [18:07] /etc/adduser.conf can be changed to change the default used by adduser. [18:17] jhutchins_lt: sorry, i was on the phone, thanks for all, i take a look and told you if it's ok, thanks ;) [18:18] !paste [18:18] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com (or !pastebinit for CLI) | For pasting !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin Please give us the URLs for your posts! === core is now known as Guest86124 [18:21] hey guys, I want to revert my ubutnu update from 9.10 back to 9.04.... can you point me to something helpful [18:21] haidoura: Just restore the backup you made before the upgrade. [18:21] jhutchins_lt: i usermod myself to change my default shell to /bin/bash and i try a new connection via ssh but i'm still getting an other shell [18:22] loic: How are you determining what shell you have? [18:22] jhutchins_lt: here my /etc/passwd line horn:x:2524:2525::/home/horn:/bin/bash [18:22] the desaster is that i lost my backup dvd [18:22] :s [18:22] i am getting error: "could not start ksmserver. check your installation" [18:22] jhutchins_lt: just looking that bashrc is not loaded [18:22] i am getting error: "could not start ksmserver. check your installation" what should i do? [18:23] MK13: The word: all works [18:23] I reached 9.10 by updating 9.04 and not from clean install [18:24] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-191632.html [18:24] jhutchins_lt: if i type bash in the current shell, my PS1 use colors and my aliases defined in /etc/bash.bashrc are loaded but if i don't launch bash manually, they're not [18:24] jhutchins_lt: i take a look [18:25] jhutchins_lt: that's exactly the problem I have, i have not found it in my searches, thanks [18:29] i am getting error: "could not start ksmserver. check your installation" what should i do? [18:30] http://rooparam.blogspot.com/ [18:31] i am getting error: "could not start ksmserver. check your installation" what should i do? [18:33] visit http://rooparam.blogspot.com/ or http://www.futuredesktop.org === andy is now known as Guest52478 [18:34] jhutchins_lt: it's working [18:35] jhutchins_lt: just one last thing, when i create a new user, no files .bash_profile is created in home folder [18:35] kalp: Check your installation. [18:35] loic: Create a default in /etc/skel/ [18:36] im running sudo apt-get update but nothing is updating....any ideas? [18:37] kalp: What release are you trying to run? [18:37] iEatChildren: 1) Configure your sources? 2) There aren't any updates? [18:37] whats the latest version of kde in the repo's? [18:38] im on 4.2.2 [18:39] nevermind...i found a link about upgrading to 4.3.2 [18:41] kalp: ? [18:42] i added the repo in this article...still not getting the updates http://www.kubuntu.org/new/kde-4.3.2 [18:42] added the GPG key too [18:48] jhutchins_lt: there's already one [18:50] loic: Hm. What are you using to create new users? [18:51] useradd [18:51] loic: Try adduser. [18:51] jhutchins_lt: http://pastebin.com/d2a2b7e28 [18:52] ok, i'll try [18:55] jhutchins_lt: that's better [18:55] jhutchins_lt: i didn't knew that there were a difference between useradd and adduser [18:55] jhutchins_lt: thank you for all your help [18:55] still buggy :S [18:55] which CPU ist faster... Athlon XP 3200+ or an Atom CPU= [18:57] sourcemaker: Check the benchmarks. It depends on what you're doing. Generally the Athalon is going to be more powerful. [18:57] kubuntu or KDE4.3 is still buggy as hel [18:57] libervisco: KDE4. [18:58] Athlon XP 3200+, i think [18:58] There's a lot of hardware that just doesn't handle it right, and the back-coding to deal with that is going to be limited. [18:58] I wrote about its usability favorably recently, high praises and all, but this bugginess is really killing the experience.. [18:59] interface and the idea is one thing, but what use if the backend doesn't work right [19:02] ols [19:02] ola [19:02] HI [19:04] libervisco: One good thing about KDE4 is that it's raising interest in alternative desktops. [19:05] My kubuntu doesn't save vertical refresh settings; after restart X there is auto settings (60Hz) again. [19:06] soo what's the problem ? [19:07] sorry horizontal [19:09] hmm not so much problems they i can solve ? [19:09] sorry for my bad english [19:11] REALLY nobody want to talk ? [19:11] REALLY nobody want to talk ? [19:11] And another problem: there is loop in kdm login process, after I enter login name and password after while i goes back to login screen. [19:12] SOmeone using eclipse on Kubuntu [19:12] ?? === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [19:46] Does Kubuntu 9.04 require more hardware resources than 8.04? [19:46] I am trying to set a buddy up with kubuntu, and he has older hardware [19:46] If it ran 8.04 then 9.04 should also run [19:47] hi [19:47] genii: ty, he's actually running winxp right now... [19:47] (some intel stuff got broke but as far as ram and hd requirements, comparable as before) [19:47] rosco_y: Avoid the 3D stuff though. [19:47] hi cris_ [19:47] Is KDE 3.x available in 904? [19:47] jhutchins_lt: I gotcha, just don't turn it on in the preferences, right? [19:48] rosco_y: Yeah, and I'd avoid KDE4 if possible. [19:48] is KDE4 the default install on the kubuntu 9.04 iso download? [19:48] Yes [19:49] Maybe it'd be safer (easier?) to just give him 8.04, for that reason [19:49] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty [19:49] ty [19:49] jhutchins_lt: 3.5 is available for 9.04 from Pearson Computing, but not an official release [19:50] It does look like it would have been what I was looking for tho [19:51] I'm thinking 8.04 is the way to go here... [19:52] He'd probably be more quickly more self-sufficient with an official release [19:53] "more quickly more self-sufficient", that one had me spinning [19:53] "get up to speed quicker", yes, yes... [19:55] ty peoples, see you on the clover-leaf [19:57] how do i enable spanish keyboard? [20:08] buenas tardes a todos...:D [20:08] !es [20:08] En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [20:09] tengo instalado evolution como correo, pero cuando intento abrir un archivo adjunto me dice "Could not open the link. No application is registered as handling file" [20:09] !es | xago [20:09] xago: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [20:09] !es | xago [20:11] what you just type !es in the console?? [20:12] suman: To get to the spanish channel, it's /join #ubuntu-es (or #kubuntu-es) [20:12] suman: To just make the bot recite the factoid about it, !es [20:12] genii: thanks [20:23] anyone know a good USB wifi adapter for linux? [20:24] People, I have evolution installed on my system, but when I try to open an attached file, I received following message "Could not open the link. No application is registered as handling file" Some may tell what's wrong? [20:26] xago: Whatever type of file that is doesn't have a pre-set handler. [20:27] correct!!! [20:27] xago: I avoid gnome, so I don't know where it links filetypes to handlers, but there should be a way. Try right-click on the file, open with, remember. [20:28] Hey all, i have sound and video in Dragon Player and Amarok, yet i can't hear video on flash videos and apple trailers don't even play. Any ideas? [20:28] hi [20:29] CupofDice: get the flash plug in from adept [20:29] jhutchins_lt: I have only "Save as:" option [20:29] i already have flash xago [20:29] the non-free version [20:30] hi my wireless internet is not working. Can anybody help to set this up right? [20:30] xago: Might ask in ubuntu, that's more gnome-oriented. [20:30] CupofDice: I didn't understand [20:30] !sound | CupofDice [20:30] CupofDice: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [20:31] jhutchins: I'll see there, thanks [20:33] ubottu, I assume you meant 'Multimedia'? Cause that is the only thing i can find. Doesn't have an option. [20:33] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [20:34] xago, what didn't you understand? [20:34] CupofDice: you says: " i already have flash xago" [20:35] yeah, I already have flash installed. Is there a plugin for konqueror? [20:36] I already have flashplugin-installer installed [20:36] i guess i am missing something [20:37] I have had not talked before with you my friend....anyway...what's your issue? [20:37] oh, i see. my fault [20:39] anyway, my Dragon Player plays videos with sound. Looking to get Konqueror with sound-in-flash (it plays video flash with no problem) and I also can't see apple trailers. I think I am missing a plugin of some sort, but I can't think what it is [20:39] CupofDice: don't worry :D [20:40] Did you check with Firefox? [20:40] yeah, no sound in firefox either === nakatsu is now known as Weezy_ [20:40] Y'a du francais !! ?? [20:42] Kubuntu 9.04 by default uses xine and phonom right? [20:42] I know about Xine...Phonom? [20:42] !fr | Weezy_ [20:42] Weezy_: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr [20:43] flash uses alsa. [20:43] well, something like phonom. I know it starts with a P :D === avihay is now known as avihayb [20:45] jhutchins_lt, if you mean alsa-firmware, I already have that installed. [20:45] pulseaudio? [20:46] I uninstalled pulseaudio earlier, cause I read somewhere it conflicts with something. Installing now to see [20:48] CupofDice: There's something about flash that expects a real alsa system I think. You have to patch & recompile it to work with phonon. [20:48] I may be mis-remembering though. [20:48] (Something from ltsp) [20:49] ciao === mik__ is now known as pomik [20:51] Do you even need a swap partition with 4gb of ram? [20:59] hello [21:01] hi === m4v_ is now known as m4v === dorins_ is now known as wave [21:06] DoubleD84: I wouldn't go for over 4g of swap, but it's nice to have something. [21:08] jhutchins_lt: thanks.. that sounds like a reasonable number.. i've read some articles saying you should go 2x or 4x memory which seems a little excessive [21:23] jhutchins_lt, if you are still there, i just came across this thread- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1297265 - which mentioned pcm, and even though i looked at the mixer before, for some reason i didn't turn the pcm up (thought it was something not important) thanks [21:30] DoubleD84: Those specs date back to when we all had a lot less RAM. [21:39] argh... any idea why my system would lock up when i try to run gparted off the livecd... tested the drive with seatools.. short & long tests (passed).. and formatted... grrr [21:43] So, evolution in karmic is pretty broken, at least with the MAPI plugin. [21:46] DoubleD84: push comes to shove, you can always use the command line [21:49] avihayb: i'm just trying to get a desktop rolling so i can get some stuff done.. I've taken a day and I haven't even got a partition scheme [21:50] I guessed that much [21:50] testing RAM now.. and burning another install disc on the other computer.. the one i was using locks up intermittently [21:51] you had a problem with the installer last night? when was stuck on formating? [21:51] it* [21:52] exactly, so i burned seatools and ran short/long tests which passed.. then i formatted so i wouldnt have any issues [21:53] * DoubleD84 is still having issues [21:53] lol === michael___ is now known as DoYouKnow === xanela8 is now known as pitufi === pitufi is now known as pitufina_20 [21:57] DoubleD84: with what? [21:58] maybe you should try another software other then gparted [22:00] well i'm going to let memtest make atleast one pass and im going to burn a new install cd and try that.. if that doesnt work what other software do you suggest? [22:02] DoubleD84, is it the latest GParted version ? If you are trying to partiton an ext4 for example the older versions don't have that option [22:03] well.. looks like i purchased bad ram... [22:03] * DoubleD84 could really throw around a few expletives right no [22:03] now* [22:06] DoubleD84: There was a guy on one of the channels earlier who had his ram fail memtest. He tested each module individually, both passed, he put 'em back in together and everything was fine. [22:07] When in doubt, take it apart and put it back together again. [22:07] already running off one stick [22:14] Does anybody know if there's an ubuntu one client for KDE yet? [22:14] hello... is there any ppa to install kde 4.4? [22:21] in kde.org, there is only 4.3 [22:21] so either 4.4 is highly experimental, or I don't know === wave is now known as testlongnick [22:31] i'm trying to move from 3.5.10 to 4.3, in 3, when i log back in i have 3 tabs open in knosole, but in 4, how does one restore saved sessions? [22:32] is there dvd player emulator for watching dvd's [22:35] the ubuntu client is for both ubuntu and kubuntu [22:35] woow [22:42] so.. 1000+ errors from memtest on one stick.. trying it in a different slot just to be sure [22:48] DoubleD84: may I venture to guess that you moved from windows because it was crashing every 5 min? [22:49] list [22:58] not really. windows is just too bloated. I pay for this hardware to run what I ant. Not what the general population wants to have [23:02] mostly i kept it because of games which i dont have time for anymore (and i picked up a ps3 anyway) [23:02] that stick of ram is definitely bad though.. :( [23:04] hi all, [23:05] is there someone t? [23:05] is there someone that can help me [23:05] sort of.. the usual procedure is just ask your question and idle [23:06] if someone notices and can help, they will [23:06] I need to remote control an windows xp client from a ubuntu 9.04 pc (using default remote application from xp) [23:08] well i highly doubt that there will be an app to use microsofts default remote sharing. you should look at other vnc options in linux.. a quick google shows up tightvnc [23:10] ok thank for the info doubled84, I will test it [23:10] thanks a lot [23:16] mama? [23:17] thierry: you can use an rdcp in ubuntu [23:17] thierry- krdc can connect to a Windows [23:19] krdc is it a package into synaptics? [23:19] thierry: actually, kubuntu should come with a program called krdc by deafult, it lets you connect to bouth rdc and vnc servers [23:19] It's installed by default [23:20] rdc-> microsol's Remote Desktop Connection [23:20] You mean RDP [23:20] yes, but i'am not on the good irc channel, because I use ubuntu and not kubuntu [23:21] Yeah, you should ask in #ubuntu then [23:21] okay thanks a lot for your help [23:21] rdp-> microsol's Remote Desktop connection Protocol [23:21] I don't know what Gnome has for an RDP client === RuStY is now known as Guest74927 [23:23] thanks to all I test it (tsclient on gnome) [23:23] tsclient= terminal server client [23:24] thanks again [23:45] how can I determine... which users are allowed for system login? [23:45] like root and my peronal user