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* lool \o/16:03
* ScottK guesses there's time to go get coffee16:06
loolIs slangasek leading the meeting today?16:08
pittihe was going to16:08
pitti1.5 hours ago he said he'd take a nap before the meeting16:09
* lool calls16:09
* pitti call... oh, got beaten to it16:09
loolpitti: I only have one number16:10
cr3could we call his chumpy?16:10
pittihey slangasek16:10
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slangasek[TOPIC] QA Team16:12
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marjoHW Certification Testing16:13
marjo   passed:      10 (91%)   failed:      0  ( 0%) untested:    1  ( 9%)16:13
marjo   passed:      26 (100%)  failed:      0  (  0%) untested:    0  (  0%)16:13
marjo   passed:      48 (94%)   failed:      0  ( 0%)  untested:    3  ( 6%)16:13
marjo   passed:      12 (100%)  failed:      0  (  0%)  untested:    0  (  0%)16:13
marjopitti: another 100%16:13
marjoKarmic Release Candidate Test Report16:14
marjo== Test Coverage ==16:14
marjoImage Test Coverage = 100%16:14
marjoTest Case Coverage = 100%16:14
marjoBeta Test Coverage = 99%16:14
marjoAlpha 6 Test Coverage = 58%16:14
marjo=== Test Failure Analysis ===16:14
marjo10 Test Failures16:14
marjoFailure Rate 8/194 = 5.1%16:14
marjoBeta Failure Rate = 8%16:14
marjoAlpha 6 Failure Rate = 15%16:14
marjoBased on these test results, Karmic looks good16:14
marjofrom testing point of view16:14
marjo== Bugs summary ==16:15
marjo=== Summary of Unfixed Issues ===16:15
marjo38 bugs unfixed16:15
marjoCritical - 116:15
marjoHigh - 1116:15
marjoMedium - 816:15
marjoLow - 416:15
marjoUndecided - 1516:15
marjo=== Summary of Fixed Issues ===16:15
marjo11 bugs fixed16:15
marjoCritical - 116:15
marjoHigh - 716:15
marjoLow - 116:15
marjoUndecided - 216:15
marjoI will send out the detailed test results in an email16:15
marjothat's all from QA16:16
slangasekdo you have the bug number of the unfixed critical bug handy?16:16
marjono i don't16:17
marjothx ScottK16:17
slangasekbug #40140616:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 401406 in lame "[Karmic] libmp3lame fails in converting audio" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40140616:18
slangasekdoesn't look like one we need to discuss here16:19
pittiI feel karmic is really working well if that is the only critical bug we have :)16:19
cr3pitti: almost too well, it is unsettling indeed16:19
slangasek[TOPIC] Desktop Team16:19
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slangasekpitti: so let's talk about some non-critical bugs? :)16:20
pittiThis week we landed the new GNOME point release in time. No problems reported from that16:20
pittiother than that we pretty much exclusively did RC bug fixing16:20
pittiand some polishing16:20
pittifreshly updated again some 5 minutes ago16:20
pittiso, the remaining bugs which haven't a fix available don't worry me too much any more16:21
slangasek[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus16:21
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ScottKslangasek: Jumping back a topic, I also see Bug 441338 and Bug 44308916:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 441338 in dbus "CD drive not eject after cd inserted them becomes unusable karmic" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44133816:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 443089 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.31 "Internal microphone does not work on HP Mini Bixby" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44308916:21
pitti408530 and 428884 really ought to be fixed in an SRU16:21
pittiScottK: sounds like a dupe of bug 264336 ?16:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 264336 in postgresql-8.3 "pgsql fails to start due to shared buffer setting greater than kernel allows" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26433616:22
pittibug 44892116:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 448921 in devicekit-disks "eject button not working for video DVDs" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44892116:22
slangasekScottK: for critical bugs?  I was wondering about the one that had been linked from ISO testing; 'critical' looks wrong for 443089, but we can talk about it with the kernel team?16:23
ScottKCertainly, just trying to make sure I'd given a complete answer.16:23
pittiso, that eject thing is not really a dk-disks bug (it does what it can), we either need to fix it in the kernel (stop locking altogether) or stop totem from locking it again16:24
slangasekpitti: 408530, 428884> agreed16:25
pittioh, and 77010 was accepted into karmic16:25
pitti(page updated)16:26
pittijockey fix as well (updated again)16:26
slangasekpitti: 448921 should probably be considered for SRU too, then?16:26
pittiany questions wrt. desktop from anyone?16:26
slangasek(-->targeted to karmic)16:26
pittislangasek: depends how intrusive it is16:27
pittieject button works for CDs, etc. but not for video DVDs16:27
pittias soon as you start totem, that is16:27
slangasekpitti: should it be targeted to keep it on the radar?16:27
pittiif we need to fix it in the kernel, it might not be appropriate16:27
pittislangasek: fine for me; we can still wontfix it if it becomes too intrusive16:27
slangasekno other questions from me; anyone else?16:28
ScottKYou want any Kubuntu status now?16:29
slangasekyes, please16:29
ScottKWe have a few uploads pending, but are in good shape generally.16:30
slangasek(if there's status to mention, that is - not meaning to put you on the spot specifically :)16:30
ScottKhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/freeflying/4036438792/in/set-72157622515083587/ <- Kubuntu Netbook on Freescale16:30
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ScottKI think the news is good.16:30
ScottKThe only real serious unresolved problem I know of seems only to affect my laptop, so we probably needn't hold the release for that.16:31
ScottKBTW, the packagekit upload that's pending is there for Kubuntu to fix a crasher.16:31
ScottKThat's it16:31
slangasekmoving on?16:32
slangasek[TOPIC] DX Team16:32
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slangasekdavidbarth: hey16:32
davidbarththe summary is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/KarmicReleaseStatus16:32
slangasek[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/KarmicReleaseStatus16:32
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looldavidbarth: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/45641216:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 456412 in netbook-launcher "title of saved web favorite contains unescaped characters" [Low,Triaged]16:33
davidbarth1 n-osd crasher that we're trying to reproduce; seems rather specific to emesene though16:33
looldavidbarth: I think this one should be on your radar as well16:33
davidbarthlool: hmm, for the release or an SRU?16:33
looldavidbarth: Either is fine; release is preferred but it's ok16:34
davidbartha rhyhtmbox issue due to n-osd16:34
loolI'm sorry, I failed pinging you directly on this bug16:34
davidbarthlool: if you take the patch before the release, we can rush this one in; we'll see with neil or jason16:34
lool(It's just ugly)16:34
lool(Not breaking anything)16:34
davidbarthlool: i'm more concerned about the keyring issue16:34
loolWell that one seems intrusive to fix16:35
davidbarthand a n-osd font problem for people using fractional fonts (ie 9.4, instead of just 10pt)16:35
loolSo even if it's an usability issue, I think the test might have to be deferred if it is intrusive16:35
davidbarthlool: the point is that i'm not sure who's looking at it now16:35
davidbarthlool: it falls right in the middle of unr, desktop, etc.16:36
loolIn my eyes, netbook-launcher + UNR's window picker applet are responsible for hiding/showing windows as they appear/disappear, even if metacity is involved16:37
loolSo it would seem logical that they review the state of open windows on startup16:37
davidbarthso i guess my point now is asking the desktop team which patches they still want to take for the release, between the 3 n-osd and a potential one for xsplash; see http://tinyurl.com/ylhxuzy16:37
loolAt least I think that's what I proposed on the bug; if it's not possible or a bad idea, could you comment on the issues with the approach in the bug?16:38
davidbarthand how to manage the unr one, which has impacts outside of unr itself16:38
davidbarthpitti, slangasek, lool?16:38
pittidavidbarth: if they are tiny and 100% safe, I'm fine with slipping them in16:39
slangasekwhich one is "the UNR one"?16:39
loolOh I failed to comment on the bug too, I only chatted with njpatel on IRC tss I suck16:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 447886 in netbook-launcher "On startup Gnome Keyring asks for password in the background" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:39
davidbarthit's a nasty usability issue, basically, you boot unr for the first time and you can't really connect to the network!16:40
loolI think something like "for all open windows, put window on top" at the end of the netbook-launcher startup sequence would do the trick, but again I'm fine deferring that as a SRU16:40
pittithat seems worth fixing in final16:40
loolI think libwnck can help with this16:40
slangasekyes, if it can be corrected in a targeted manner in netbook-launcher, I think it would be best to have that in final16:41
loolI've updated milestone16:41
davidbarthok, so we're saying: try hard to fix this one, as a workaround specific to netbook-launcher; using tricks we see fit to bring the keyring window on the top16:41
looldavidbarth: I think it's really not a workaround to do what I suggest: if netbook-launcher crashes and is respawned, the same issue will happen I bet16:42
loolAnd you can't use root window tricks since it's a complex set of windows, not just a single x window16:42
slangaseknone of the others seem quite as bad for usability impact; I think we would take targeted fixes for them on Monday if available, but if not they all seem like reasonable SRU candidates16:43
davidbarthlool: can we see that offline after the meeting?16:43
looldavidbarth: Sure16:43
davidbarthslangasek: ok16:43
slangasekhmm, the xsplash one doesn't seem critical to me and probably not something we want to SRU for16:43
slangasekbug #43569216:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 435692 in xsplash "Wait for user icons and wallpaper before fading out" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43569216:43
loolI agree; it's just not perfectly pretty16:44
slangasekI realize it's aesthetically displeasing, but the timeout code has caused us enough problems already for one release cycle16:44
slangasekand I would prefer not to try to change it at the very end16:44
pittiand for slower machines it's ugly either way16:44
slangasekdavidbarth: do you agree?16:45
davidbarthslangasek: i agree it's tricky to move now16:45
slangasekso you're ok with leaving that until lucid?16:46
davidbarthslangasek: moving it as a tentative sru though, or as an indenpendant ppa16:46
pittidoesn't really sound like SRU matter either IMHO16:46
slangasekpitti: tend to agree, but figure we can discuss that when the fix is available; PPA is obviously ok :)16:47
slangasekanything else on the DX front?16:47
davidbarthnope, that's it16:48
slangasek[TOPIC] Mobile Team16:48
lool[link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/ReleaseStatus/Karmic16:48
loolOverview of overall status (more details since we're close to release):16:48
lool* UNR: good shape16:48
lool  * wubi needs image rerolling + testing; davmor2 offered help, StevenK is looking for a license key16:48
lool* general armel stuff16:48
lool  * toolchain related rebuilds have been pushed16:48
lool* armel+mx51: ok16:49
lool  * Babbage 2.0 is in a bad shape for both Jamie and I, but my hardware is very unstable; could either be hardware breakage and/or kernel/bootloader regressions   :-/   We need to dig up what's happening here but we suspect the kernel mxcfb changes regressed our graphics16:49
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lool* armel+dove: ok16:49
lool  * Need to cleanup installation instructions16:49
lool  * Installation is very slow16:49
lool* Ubuntu Moblin Remix: ok16:49
slangasekfor wubi you're referring only to a UNR image reroll, right?16:49
lool  * APT error is really fixed16:49
lool  * would like to fix mutter crash16:49
loolThat said, I pushed sources which are in all images16:49
slangasek(for the bug we've already discussed - ok, good)16:49
loolLike apt16:49
lool(For the toolchain rebuilds)16:49
slangasekmutter> I guess that's best effort; bug is listed as confirmed yet, do you think this will be fixed on Monday?16:51
loolslangasek: I was hoping for today16:51
slangasekno other questions from me; anyone else?16:51
slangasek[TOPIC] Server Team16:52
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slangasekttx: hi16:52
ttxslangasek: o/16:52
ttxhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/ReleaseStatus was updated16:52
ttxThe key remaining issue is bug 458850, which is a consequence of eucalyptus not acting like EC2 about ephemeral disks16:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 458850 in ec2-init "UEC images do not mount ephemeral disk on /mnt at boot" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45885016:52
ttxWe confirmed with EC2 community that this was a feature they are usually relying on16:53
slangasek[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/ReleaseStatus16:53
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ttxSo we would like to fix that in our images themselves. That should just affect the cloud images, not the server ISO16:53
ttxwe would also fix bug 458576 in the same run16:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 458576 in ec2-init "ec2: ssh public key fingerprint in console output does not match EC2 standards" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45857616:53
ttxthis last one is really low-risk. The first one... that depends on how smoser fixes it exactly16:54
slangaseklatter sounds ok, sure16:54
slangasekwill have to wait and see the fix for the former16:54
ttxslangasek: exactly16:54
ttxwe expect to be affected by the maven overhaul, since it toucjhes libraries used in server packages16:55
ttxbug 45482216:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 454822 in qdox "package merges in main, required for the maven2 build" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45482216:55
slangasekttx: do you know how close we are to being done with maven?  I haven't been able to track it, every time I look there's yet another bug report somewhere about it16:55
ScottKI think we are getting close16:55
slangasekhow close?16:55
pittiI keep playing whack-a-rat with NEW and syncs16:55
pittimaven2 built now \o/16:56
ttxslangasek: doko reported maven2 building now16:56
ScottKThat close16:56
pittidoko_ says some plugins are still missing16:56
* pitti hugs doko_ for his great efforts on this16:56
doko_maven2 itself is built, will be published within a few minutes16:56
slangasekthe wiki page mentions commons-beanutils and backport-util-concurrent - are those still needed?16:57
ttxslangasek: those were updated already16:57
ScottKI think they are done.16:57
ttxslangasek: those were the ones affecting eucalyptus16:57
slangasekok, but they're already done?16:57
ttxdoko_: you expect a tomcat6 update now ?16:57
doko_slangasek: yes16:57
ttxtomcat6 is on the server CD, so...16:58
slangasekdoko_: so are we completely done with maven2 package updates in main for karmic?  the missing plugins are optional, I hope?16:58
ScottKAlso potentially affecting the server CD ... I'm planning to cherrypick the Debian clamav repo over the weekend (I was expecting an upload in Debian that hasn't materialize) that close out a number of clamav packaging bugs and then next week I'll push clamav 0.95.3 to -proposed.16:58
doko_ttx: yes, but not now. needed for maven-site-plugin and maven-debian-helper. we should include this if possible. http://people.canonical.com/~doko/tmp/ has my current tomcat6 merge16:59
doko_slangasek: no, libservlet2.5-api-java needs the POM as well, see the current merge above, I still have to test that16:59
ttxdoko_: I'll review it16:59
ttx(not now)17:00
slangasekdoko_: why is libservlet2.5-api-java needed?17:00
slangasekScottK: clamav> ack17:00
doko_slangasek: b-d for maven-site-plugin17:00
slangasekand why would we not just tell people "sorry, this bit didn't make it"?17:01
doko_and libmaven-site-plugin-java is needed for maven-debian-helper17:01
pittithe maven OS17:02
doko_slangasek: well, the source package is in, and if ttx can review it ...17:02
doko_I'll work on that tomorrow17:02
ttxI'll do my best17:02
doko_have to leave now, sorry17:02
slangasekdoko_: that still doesn't answer the question of why we want to fiddle with a package on the server CD the week of release to get this universe package working17:03
slangasekI guess we'll discuss that out-of-band, since doko has to go17:03
slangasekanything else for server?17:03
slangasek[TOPIC] Kernel Team17:04
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slangasekpgraner, apw: about?17:05
pgranerslangasek: yep, sorry we are sprinting today17:05
slangasekpgraner: no worries; one way or another I want to touch base with you on the two bugs I've posted to the wiki, do you have time for that right now?17:06
pgranerslangasek: sure17:06
* pgraner looks17:06
slangasekbug #45357917:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 453579 in linux "corruption of large files reported with linux 2.6.31-14.46 on ext4" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45357917:06
slangasekbug #45902217:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 459022 in linux-meta-mvl-dove "still builds -z0 metapackages which are uninstallable and should be dropped" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45902217:06
slangasekthe first one was Keybuk's "ext4 is making swiss cheese of my ISO downloads" bug17:07
slangasekI would appreciate it if the kernel team could follow through and see whether this is reproducible at all17:07
Keybukslangasek: I've just updated my desktop to karmic with a reinstall to get proper ext417:08
slangasek(if not reproducible, triage it away - if it is reproducible, we need to figure out where the bug is)17:08
Keybukand replacement laptop hard drive has arrived, and being installed right now17:08
Keybukso if I can reproduce it, I'll let you know17:08
slangasekKeybuk: ok, thanks17:08
KeybukI'm still not 100% sure it's not the dodgy pre-production SSD in that other laptop17:08
apwKeybuk, if you could that would help a lot17:08
Keybukthe only reason I filed it was other people were reporting the corrupt deb thing17:08
Keybukkernel team have access to the same dodgy pre-production SSDs though - so they could test17:08
apwKeybuk,which model is it17:09
Keybukapw: am I allowed to say? :p17:09
apwKeybuk, tell me offline in case17:09
Keybukthe ones we were given at the last UDS17:09
pgranerKeybuk: thats NDA17:09
slangasekKeybuk: yes, dodgy hardware is a possibility - but we should be aggressive about trying to reproduce this (incl. on other hardware) so we're sure it's ok to turf this for release17:09
pgranerslangasek: ack, we will get back to you shortly, we are all here so we can quickly sort it, hopefully17:10
pgranerslangasek: and the metapkg bug we will fix right now17:10
slangasekpgraner: great, thanks!17:10
slangasekthat's it from me - any concerns on your side?17:11
pgranerslangasek: nope we are holding with what we got17:11
slangasekhow big's the queue for the day-zero kernel SRU drop? :)17:11
pgranerslangasek: we have 3 or 4 patches pending but they are minor.17:12
pgranerslangasek: to answer no we are not doing a day zero17:12
slangaseksounds good; will let you get back to sprinting then :)17:12
pittipgraner: would bug 77010 fit there? (config chagne only)17:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 77010 in hundredpapercuts "Overuse of system beep without volume control" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/7701017:12
pittipgraner: ^ disables CONFIG_HDA_BEEP thing17:12
slangasekpitti: not a blocker for final, can be discussed out of band, I think?17:13
pgranerpitti: I'll have apw look at it17:13
pittiright, for SRU17:13
pgranerslangasek: yep\17:13
pittiok,s orry17:13
slangasek[TOPIC] Security Team17:13
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slangasekjdstrand: hi, anything to say release-wise?17:13
slangasek(AFAIK your RC buglist is empty now)17:14
jdstrandas always https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus17:14
slangasek[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus17:14
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jdstrandthere is one bug: bug #45771617:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 457716 in libvirt "apparmor denies save and restore" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45771617:14
jdstrandoh, someone accepted it! :)17:15
slangasekfixed already ;)17:15
jdstrandthere are no bugs17:15
slangasekok, great :)17:15
jdstrandwell, no *RC* bugs17:15
* slangasek nods17:15
pittijdstrand: just reviewed it, and seemed fine (pinpointed fix)17:15
jdstrandI am not claiming anything is bug-free17:15
slangasekany questions for security, then?17:15
jdstrandother than that, I don't have anything. all the pending stuff has been addressed17:16
jdstrandpitti: thanks!17:16
slangasek[TOPIC] Foundations Team17:16
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slangasekKeybuk: are you still covering today, or is cjwatson around now?17:16
Keybukcjwatson is today17:17
slangasekcjwatson: ping17:17
slangasekok, will follow up out of band I guess17:18
slangasekKeybuk: anything we should talk about wrt mountall/usplash?17:18
slangasekor bug #432089?17:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 432089 in sreadahead "performs poorly on slow HDD" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43208917:18
Keybukmountall has a bug that affects a couple of cases (most notable elmo)17:18
KeybukI believe ion has fixed that, and I just need to upload once I'm fully back online17:18
Keybukusplash has a "not pretty" bug wrt CLEAR, which ion has also fixed17:19
Keybukthe sreadahead problem isn't simple17:19
KeybukI have a possible solution, but you won't like it ;D17:19
cjwatsonurg, sorry, I started late today and my times are completely shot17:19
cjwatson(didn't get back from NI until lunchtime)17:20
slangasekKeybuk: heh, let's discuss that after the meeting then so the others don't have to listen to the yelling ;)17:20
cjwatsonthere's a bug with RAID and virtio that I think needs to be fixed in grub2, bug 45768717:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 457687 in grub2 "error: Running 'grub-install --no-floppy "/dev/md0"' failed." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45768717:20
cjwatsonworking on that at the moment17:20
cjwatsonand apparently root on iSCSI is busted somehow17:20
cjwatsonbug 45776717:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 457767 in debian-installer "karmic: iSCSI root: boot hangs on starting iscsid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45776717:20
cjwatsonI'm on the former, but if somebody serverish could pick up the latter, I'd greatly appreciate it17:21
slangasekttx: do you have someone who can look at 457767?17:21
slangasekcjwatson: can you target/milestone both bugs?17:22
ttxslangasek: hmm17:22
ttxslangasek: maybe Dustin, he used to work on that before iSCSI support was taken by Foundations17:22
slangasek[ACTION] kirkland to follow up on bug #45776717:23
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ubottuLaunchpad bug 457767 in debian-installer "karmic: iSCSI root: boot hangs on starting iscsid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45776717:23
cjwatsonI know it's our responsibility, just takes a while for somebody new to set it up, and I don't think I have personal bandwidth :-/17:23
* cjwatson will owe somebody a favour17:23
slangasekKeybuk: when are you "fully back online", btw?17:24
Keybukslangasek: when the apt run finishes and I reboot after ;)17:24
pitti_meh, server just broke apparently17:24
Keybuk(rsync is beating apt atm)17:24
slangasekI think that's all I have on foundations17:25
slangasekanything else?17:25
slangasek[TOPIC] MOTU17:26
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slangasekScottK: still going strong on the bugfixes?17:26
ScottKMaven was my exciting topic and we covered that already.17:26
ScottKFor a small value of strong, sure.17:26
ScottKThere's stuff coming in, but it's not a torrent.17:26
* slangasek nods17:27
ScottKI think we are pretty well into "It is what it is" territory17:27
ScottKThe Kaffe removal (which motu-release has now ack'ed) needs to get done.17:27
ScottKThat's just a stack of sync's and a removal, so shouldn't be a big deal.17:27
ScottKUninstallable packages is much lower than Jaunty.17:28
ScottKSo the FTBFS count is the major worry ATM.17:28
ScottKI think we ought to revisit how we deal with this stuff at UDS.17:28
slangaseksounds reasonable17:29
ScottKThat's all I have.17:29
slangasekok, thanks17:29
slangasekany other questions for MOTU?17:29
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB17:29
MootBotNew Topic:  AOB17:29
slangasekanything else we need to talk about, or is everybody clear on their marching orders? :)17:30
slangasekcandidate ISO rolls will start as soon as the queue looks quiesced Monday morning (UTC)17:30
ScottKAs a general note, I'd like to mention that in this cycle it's seemed to me that Kubuntu got a lot more support from people outside the Kubuntu team and it's much appreciated.17:30
slangasekgreat to hear17:31
marjoScottK: i second that17:31
pitti_slangasek: langpacks finished to build; I'll test them now17:31
slangasekpitti_: ok17:32
pitti_slangasek: shall I upload them when I'm happy with them, so that they can build over the weekend?17:32
slangasekpitti_: yes, please17:32
MootBotMeeting finished at 11:32.17:32
slangasekok, let's go get that bug list down to zero :)17:32
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