[00:08] <Bicchi> i wish to upgrade to 9.10 from 9.04 any instructions will be welcomed.
[00:08] <Bicchi> i noticed that there is no alternate CD ?
[00:08] <Bicchi> must i burn the cd to upgrade to 9.10 or can i just mount the iso
[00:14] <tgm4883> Bicchi, I think* update-manager -d, but I could be wrong
[00:14] <tgm4883> i usually do clean installs
[00:15] <Bicchi> tgm4883: but i already got the iso downloaded. do not want to download packages again.
[00:15]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[00:23] <hads> There's no packages on the desktop CDs, you can't use them to upgrade.
[00:23] <hads> Well, AFAIK you can't use them to upgrade.
[00:23] <Bicchi> so the only way for me would be to update-manager -dc
[00:24] <hads> So you either need to download the packages or reinstall
[00:24] <hads> Yeah
[00:26] <ppww> what happens when you boot the cd? can't remember if there's an upgrade option there or not.
[00:27] <ppww> would recommend reinstalling anyway, or your system won't be upgraded to ext4 and grub2, if i understand the release notes correctly.
[00:29] <Bicchi> i do not care much for ext4 since the main data is not using that FS
[00:30] <Bicchi> obviusly by main data i meant movies.
[00:30] <ppww> yep, the *important* data. hehe
[00:57] <hads> Yeah, ext4 is the only reason you would reinstall, unless you just like reinstalling.
[00:58] <hads> YOu can install grub2 manually after upgrade BTW
[03:00] <bobbies> can someone tell me where the livetv files are stored in mythbuntu?
[03:12] <apauna> Anyone hear of linkedin?
[03:13] <apauna> I was thinking of setting up a mythbuntu group in it.
[03:13] <ourtv> you can't delete from the watch recordings menu anymore?  actually, i can't delete from the manage recordings screen either.  also, how do you delete a recording which has an empty file in .22?
[03:19] <superm1> ourtv, check with the guys in #mythtv-users
[03:19] <superm1> if no one in here is responding
[03:19] <superm1> i'm not sure either
[03:41] <apauna> superm1 - Would there be any objection to use the mythbuntu logo off the mythbuntu.org site for the logo for linkedin group?
[03:41] <superm1> na fine by me
[03:41] <apauna> k
[04:17] <gbutters> ourtv: Press the info button on the remote and it will bring a menu with delete as the last option you will have to scroll down to see it.
[04:18] <gbutters> superm1: ^^
[04:20] <superm1> gbutters, but that doesn't work if its a zero length file
[04:20] <gbutters> superm1: it works for me
[04:20] <superm1> hm i've only had a single zero length file since upgrading, and i had a hard time deleting it
[04:22] <gbutters> superm1: now that I think about it the file did not exist because of permissions problem so I aam probably wrong
[04:51]  * ToeBee is playing audiosurf in wine on his TV
[04:51] <ToeBee> it is pretty sweet
[04:58] <Essobi> WEEEEEE!
[04:58] <Essobi> ToeBee: Really?  In wine?  Nice.
[04:59] <ToeBee> yessir!
[04:59] <ToeBee> on a 42" LCD :)
[05:40] <mattwj2002> hi everyone
[05:40] <mattwj2002> :)
[05:41] <mattwj2002> someone needs to update that topic
[05:41] <mattwj2002> the release candidate is out
[05:58] <ToeBee> it's true!
[05:58] <superm1> thanks mattwj2002
[05:59] <mattwj2002> your welcome superm1
[05:59] <mattwj2002> :)
[05:59] <mattwj2002> :)
[06:00] <mattwj2002> I am going to try it on my laptop now
[06:00] <mattwj2002> :D
[06:00] <mattwj2002> once it is done burning
[06:01] <superm1> if you've got a spare USB stick, usb installs are far faster
[06:01] <superm1> just need about 600 megs free on a usb stick
[06:01] <mattwj2002> nice
[06:03] <ToeBee> oh sweet. I think my whole mythbox just locked up hard
[06:03] <mattwj2005> you running the rc?
[06:04] <ToeBee> ish
[06:04] <ToeBee> installed from the daily build a week or so ago
[06:04] <ToeBee> just did all the updates yesterday
[06:04] <ToeBee> err...
[06:05] <ToeBee> as I was sayaing... installed from a daily build last week. Did all the updates yesterday
[06:06] <mattwj2002> hmmm
[06:06] <ToeBee> hmm I got a couple seconds of looping audio then everything just froze. Seems kind of like a kernel panic but my keyboard LEDs aren't blinking
[06:06] <mattwj2002> is your computer over heating?
[06:07] <ToeBee> no
[06:08] <ToeBee> although I should install lm_sensors and get it monitored in my zabbix server just for good measure
[06:09] <mattwj2002> just out of curiousity....
[06:09] <mattwj2002> did you update video card drivers recently?
[06:10] <ToeBee> hmm I didn't really look at the updates I did yesterday. There may have been an nvidia one in there
[06:10] <mattwj2002> I don't know what anyone else thinks....but if any updates would crash a system I would think video card drivers would do it
[06:10] <mattwj2002> :)
[06:11] <ToeBee> especially closed source ones at that
[06:13] <mattwj2002> yup
[06:14] <ToeBee> heh sensors reports "temp3" at 81C. That's definitely not right
[06:14] <ToeBee> oh yeah I remember back when I was running windows on this hardware the windows utils reported that temp too
[06:15] <mattwj2002> oh so over heating
[06:15] <mattwj2002> :)
[06:15] <ToeBee> nah just a whacked out sensor
[06:18] <rhpot1991> tmkt: ping, you awake?
[06:30] <ourtv> gbutters, nope, info doesn't have delete.  last item is Help(Status Icons)
[06:31] <ourtv> ToeBee, did you try putting boxee on the 9.10 mythtv menu?
[06:32] <ToeBee> no I didn't. I got distracted playing Audiosurf :/
[06:32] <mattwj2002> I like Boxee :)
[06:33] <mattwj2002> especially hulu :D
[06:34] <ToeBee> see the recent news about hulu going for-pay?
[06:35] <mattwj2002> :O
[06:35] <mattwj2002> so in addition or instead of?
[06:35] <mattwj2002> you have a link?
[06:36] <ToeBee> http://gizmodo.com/5387909/hulus-free-glory-days-are-officially-numbered
[06:36] <ToeBee> seen other rumblings about it before too
[06:37] <ourtv> there's plenty enough free content for me.  i can live without hulu.
[06:38] <ourtv> the blind swordsman isn't on hulu anyway
[06:39] <mattwj2002> yeah if hulu is paid for what will be the point
[06:40] <ToeBee> well depending on the price and what you get for it I might consider it instead of cable TV
[06:40] <mattwj2002> nope
[06:41] <ToeBee> but that would require probably 720p content without ads
[06:41] <mattwj2002> that won't work because of bandwidth caps
[06:41] <mattwj2002> 5 years ago it would have but not today
[06:41] <ToeBee> depends on your plan and ISP
[06:42] <ourtv> i don't care the price.  if it can't be add supported, i don't want it.
[06:42] <ourtv> that goes for tv too.
[06:42] <mattwj2002> if they had a ton more content
[06:42] <mattwj2002> no ads
[06:43] <mattwj2002> and a flat rebate and unlimited for cheap
[06:43] <mattwj2002> I might do it
[06:43] <ourtv> $1 per month would turn me off.
[06:43] <mattwj2002> but I don't see it
[06:43] <mattwj2002> $1 for no ads?
[06:43] <mattwj2002> really?
[06:53] <ToeBee> ourtv: hmm well you could install mythgame and create a "game" entry for hulu desktop :)
[18:08] <to74> Hi folks! Trying to download 9.10-rc via bittorrent. Availability is at 16%. Somebody able to share? Thanks!
[19:34] <tmkt> anyway to change the big clock in lcdroc to 12 hr format?
[19:35] <tmkt> tried the TimeFormat parameter from other clocks without luck
[19:55] <mrand> Sorry, I don't have an LCD, although I'd like to.  Looking at the strftime formats,  you tried %r, %I (upper case i), and/or  %l (lower case L) for TimeFormat?
[21:33] <tmkt> yeah..they don't sem to affect BigClock
[21:33] <tmkt> no matter, just disabled it
[23:14] <roj> hi i'm struggling to do a fresh install of 9.10 mythbuntu with a nvidia card from the livecd, my monitor goes out of range after the splash logo. I have tried safe graphics mode but this doesn't seem to work as in previous versions. Any ideas?
[23:16] <mrand> roj: are you using either the RC or daily disk?  Hopefully not the (month old) beta disk!
[23:16] <roj> no it was the rc from last night
[23:16] <roj> i can alt ctl f1 and get to a terminal prompt
[23:17] <mrand> That's a good sign.
[23:17] <roj> i thought i might be able to edit xorg.conf but that has gone now in 9.10
[23:17] <roj> i could always install 9.04 and upgrade but i'd be missing out on ext4 support
[23:17] <roj> and grub2
[23:20] <roj> safe graphics mode in 9.04 always worked before and then i could install the restricted drivers for my nvidia geforce 7600gs
[23:20] <mrand> Did you try booting with the "Start without making changes to my computer"?
[23:20] <roj> yes tried that and install
[23:20] <roj> its when the x session starts to load
[23:20] <roj> my monitor goes out of range
[23:22] <roj> my pc wants to run at 1280 x 768 at 60 hz
[23:22] <mrand> Google seems like it is turning up a number of reports related to this...  Xorg -configure ?
[23:22] <roj> sorry that should be my monitor :)
[23:23] <roj> yes but there is no Xorg now in 9.10 or am i missing something?
[23:26] <roj> i'll have another google
[23:26] <roj> thanks for your help