[00:00] <Gratz474> what does nvidia drivers use by default exa?
[00:00] <jacquesdupontd> the -f1- means ? im discovering ?
[00:00] <jonaskoelker> jacquesdupontd: fields 1 through <the last one>
[00:00] <NAVWOLF> } ҉̵̞̟̠̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟̠͇ ̊̋̌̍̎̏̐̑̒̓̔̊̋̌̍ ̎̏̐̑̒̓̔̿̿̿̕̚̕̚͡ ͡҉ ҉̔̕̚̕̚҉ZA ~ L G ҉҉ ̔̕̚̕̚҉ ҉̵̞̟̠̖̗̘Z̙̜̝̞̟̠� �̊̋̌̍̎̏̐̑̒̓̔̊̋̌� �̎̏̐̑̒̓̔̿̿̿̕̚̕̚� �# O҉̵̞̟̠̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟̠� �̊̋̌̍̎̏̐̑̒̓̔̊̋̌� �̎̏̐̑̒̓̔̿̿̿̕̚̕̚ ҉҉ ̔̕̚̕̚҉ ҉̵̞̟̠̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟̠͇ ̊̋̌̍̎̏̐̑̒̓̔̊̋̌̍ ̎̏̐̑̒̓̔̿̿̿̕
[00:00] <NAVWOLF> ̚̕̚͡ # ̎̏̐̑ ̕̚̕̚ ̔̕̚̕̚҉ ҉̵̞̟̠̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟̠͇ ̊̋̌̍̎̏̐̑̒̓̔̊̋̌̍ ̎̏̐̑̒̓̔̿̿̿̕̚̕̚͡ ͡҉҉̔̕̚̕̚҉ ͡҉҉̔̕̚̕̚҉ ҉̵̞̟̠̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟̠͇ ̊̋̌̍̎̏̐̑̒̓̔̊̋̌̍ A̎̏̐̑L̓̔̿̿̿̕̚̕̚͡ ͡҉҉G̔̕̚̕̚҉ ҉̵̞̟̠̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟̠͇ ̊̋̌̍̎̏̐̑̒̓̔̊̋̌̍ ̎̏̐̑̒̓̔̿̿̿̕̚̕̚͡ ͡҉҉
[00:00] <FloodBot3> NAVWOLF: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:01] <jonaskoelker> jacquesdupontd: but you probably just want the "first" field (first after rev(1)ing, last before)
[00:01] <Thocrun> mt92, check this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32486
[00:01] <JAMD456> Where can I suggest translations to Ubuntu?
[00:02] <NAVWOLF> FUCK THIS LINUX CRAPP
[00:02] <lstarnes> !ops | NAVWOLF
[00:02] <jonaskoelker> NAVWOLF: stop trolling, you'll get kick-banned
[00:02] <NAVWOLF> WIN7 IS WAY BETTER
[00:03] <NAVWOLF> KICK-BAN ME
[00:03] <MenZa> jpds my dear.
[00:03] <NAVWOLF> COME ON GROW A PAIR
[00:03] <mt92> Thocrun: nono, i don't have an issue with MySQL.... I'm having problems connecting to the VPN so that I can SEE the MySQL database... it is firewalled
[00:03] <NAVWOLF> FUCKING PUSSYS
[00:03] <Xtreme_Great> !ops | NAVWOLF
[00:03] <sourcemaker> are there steghide users?
[00:03] <mt92> matalo@mt215ubuntuvb:~$ sudo route add -net 129.12.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.255 dev ppo0
[00:03] <mt92> SIOCADDRT: No such device
[00:03] <jonaskoelker> see also http://bash.org/?835030 for a witty comment about NAVWOLF
[00:03] <Thocrun> mt92, so your connecting over VPN to see the mysql?
[00:03] <jonaskoelker> ;-)
[00:04] <Gratz474> how can i tell if i am using xaa or exa or whatever i might be using ?
[00:04] <mt92> Thocrun: yes.. annoying i know, but thats how it is
[00:04] <durt> mt92, uh, shouldn't that be ppp0?
[00:04] <NAVWOLF> ALL I AM GETTING IS WONGING YA FUCKING LOSERS
[00:04] <mt92> durt: : oh no... epic fail
[00:04]  * genii sips
[00:05] <jt76> mt92: Fail!
[00:05] <MrAlexandro> hi guys. could i get help writing grub into mbr, also need help removing a logical drive with both the swap that ubuntu uses and slackware on it.
[00:05]  * Xtreme_Great sighs. Feels sorry for these Windoze people.
[00:05] <jonaskoelker> genii: thank you :)
[00:06] <Xtreme_Great> genii: You really saved our asses...
[00:06] <Thocrun> mt92, If you want to look for some help there are a few steps here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=236710
[00:06] <pstef> USA FTW
[00:07]  * Xtreme_Great is off for a nap.
[00:07] <JAMD456> Where can I add to the translations in Ubuntu? the Irish translated desktop is horrible
[00:08] <ncfi1013_> if i only want one instance of firefox to open do i delete the default profile of firefox?
[00:09] <durt> JAMD456, you might want to ask in #ubuntu-translators
[00:09] <n8tuser> ncfi1013_-> were you even successful in launching two instances of firefox? how did you confirm this?
[00:09] <JAMD456> OK thank you very much for that :)
[00:10] <Kajros> Well atleast that Navwolf dude is gone
[00:11] <n00dle> Has anyone got a PPTP VPN connection to to a windows server to work in Karmic?
[00:11] <Gratz474> is GLX a rendering mode?
[00:11] <Jordan_U> !karmic | n00dle
[00:12] <n00dle> Thanks, Jordan. :)
[00:12] <djbpython> I have a python script i run that has an infinite loop and I've been ending it by Ctrl-Z but this leaves orphaned processes. Whats the proper want to kill it?
[00:12] <talula> ﻿when i shutdown, i notice the following message, "Deconfiguring network interfaces... There is already a pid file   /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid"... can i ignore this or can i fix it? it doesn't appear to be causing any noticable problem.
[00:12] <Jordan_U> djbpython: ctrl+c
[00:13] <GodfatherofEire> Great. FGLRX just broke my system AGAIN
[00:13] <Gratz474> this card is working good, but i need improved scrolling
[00:13] <jonaskoelker> GodfatherofEire: congratulations! :(
[00:13] <djbpython> Jordan_U, thanks. where can i read about ctrl-c and -z and others? what do i search for?
[00:14] <Scunizi> I installed FF3.5 from the repo in 9.04 but there isn't a launch icon anywhere.. if I use the regular icon I get the older version of FF.. what am I doing wrong??
[00:14] <GodfatherofEire> jonaskoelker, any ideas why its causing so many problems? not just later on in an install, but on a fresh one either
[00:14] <MrAlexandro> Scunizi it is now called shiretoko
[00:14] <bastidrazor> Scunizi: it should be a blue world icon called shiretoko
[00:15] <bastidrazor> Scunizi: the actual binary is firefox-3.5
[00:15] <Morwind> Anyone know of a cheat engine/art money/tsearch like program for ubuntu?
[00:15] <jonaskoelker> GodfatherofEire: the driver's a piece of ... and/or ubuntu's version of it is a piece of ...
[00:15] <Scunizi> MrAlexandro: bastidrazor thanks!  it's there in the menu..
[00:15] <k-dubya> anyone know the cmd to hide the channel notifications for when people arrive and leave
[00:15] <edwindoebler> I've installed 9.10 in a virtualbox VM, but i keep getting authentication failed messages, and can't log in
[00:15] <jonaskoelker> GodfatherofEire: I've had tons of problems.  After switching to the "ati" driver (IIRC), I've only had one kind of problem---the performance kind---and it hasn't really affected me
[00:16] <MrAlexandro> my computer: 4 partitions, 3 primary 1 logic:... primary 1 vista -- primary 2 win xp -- primary 3 ubuntu -- logical 4 slackware & swap. mbr : lilo \\ Need help installing grub into mbr & need help removing logical partition but installing the swap again for ubuntu, if possible
[00:16] <edwindoebler> this has happened with 9.04 as well, also in a virtualbox VM
[00:16] <Shawn-> Is there any way to change the resolution on Xubuntu?
[00:16] <GodfatherofEire> jonaskoelker, You know when a CRT is set to a higher res than it can handle, and it displays the image a bunch of times, but screwed up and overlapping? thats what it looks like at the moment
[00:17] <bobino> Nothing is coming out of rythm box and yes my speakers are on! ;)
[00:17] <ajhtiredwolf> Shawn-, what do you mean?
[00:17] <Gratz474> I am trying to fix slow scrolling in firefox
[00:17] <durt> Shawn-, Settings->Display
[00:17] <Gratz474> i know you guys have heard that a million times before but yea
[00:18] <jonaskoelker> GodfatherofEire: eek
[00:18] <jonaskoelker> GodfatherofEire: I don't really know how to make fglrx work, sorry
[00:18] <jonaskoelker> GodfatherofEire: how about using the "ati" driver?
[00:19] <GodfatherofEire> jonaskoelker, you mean the one off ATI's Site? The only other driver in the repos is fglrx if I remember
[00:19] <w30> Gratz474, have you tried the scrolling preferences in Firefox itself
[00:20] <cyberwalk_rj-br> anyone know a way to test a cluster with LAM-MPI ?
[00:20] <jonaskoelker> GodfatherofEire: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, replace 'Driver "fglrx"' with 'Driver "ati"'
[00:20] <jonaskoelker> GodfatherofEire: no single quotes, but *with* the double quotes
[00:20] <jonaskoelker> GodfatherofEire: tabs vs. spaces doesn't matter, though
[00:21] <nilson> cyberwalk_rj-br: ROCKS cluster?
[00:21] <GodfatherofEire> jonaskoelker, I'll give that a shot in a sec
[00:21] <Gratz474> w30, i have had this problem many times before on other cards
[00:21] <Gratz474> does nvidia not use exa?
[00:22] <edwindoebler> anyone? i can't login to a fresh 9.10 install
[00:22] <Jordan_U> edwindoebler: #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[00:22] <edwindoebler> thanks
[00:22] <Jordan_U> edwindoebler: np
[00:23] <GodfatherofEire> jonaskoelker, there is no line that has that.
[00:24] <jonaskoelker> GodfatherofEire: my xorg.conf --> http://pastebin.com/f13c919c3
[00:24] <jonaskoelker> GodfatherofEire: maybe it'll be inspirational?
[00:24] <Gratz474> would i get any performance from running this in 16 bit color rather then 24 bit ?
[00:24] <GodfatherofEire> jonaskoelker, what distro are you running?
[00:25] <jonaskoelker> GodfatherofEire: ubuntu, 9.04 (jaunty)
[00:25] <jonaskoelker> GodfatherofEire: I'm pretty sure that's the xorg.conf I gave you :)  I have debian on my desktop box, but... I'm pretty sure I gave you the ubuntu one
[00:26] <GodfatherofEire> jonaskoelker, ok, just asking, because the last time I saw an xorg like that, it was in 8.04 or 7.10
[00:26] <noWAR> hi
[00:26] <noWAR> anybody?
[00:26] <durt> !hi
[00:27] <Gratz474> would i notice any difference using 16 bit color over 24 bit ?
[00:27] <trism> !ask | noWAR
[00:28] <durt> Gratz474, with most modern cards, my opinion is no, the scrolling issue with firefox could be a memory issue.
[00:28] <GodfatherofEire> jonaskoelker, I'm gonna see if removing CCC helps
[00:28] <jonaskoelker> GodfatherofEire: CCC?
[00:29] <GodfatherofEire> jonaskoelker Catalyst Control Center
[00:29] <jonaskoelker> GodfatherofEire: aka Weird Proprietary Thing? ;-)
[00:29] <GodfatherofEire> Yep
[00:30] <kjs> dumb question this, but iv never done it before... can I comment a line out in crontab with a # ?
[00:31] <tred> if i am root, can i start plasma for a normal user?
[00:31] <adaptr> kjs: which crontab
[00:31] <Bodsda> How can I run a command at 6:30am ?
[00:31] <Bodsda> at does not seem to be playing nicely
[00:31] <lstarnes> kjs: yes
[00:32] <jrib> Bodsda: use 'at'
[00:32] <Bodsda> jrib: it does not seem to work properly. I just did    at 12:31<enter>   >firefox www.google.com    >ctrl+d        and then waited till 12:31 and it did not run
[00:32] <w30> tred, I donno. I can su to a user from root though
[00:33] <jrib> Bodsda: what do you actually want to run?
[00:34] <Bodsda> jrib: pretty much that -- I need firefox to go to a youtube site then to wake me up in the morning
[00:35] <jrib> Bodsda: at probably runs in some limited environment (check)
[00:35] <Bodsda> jrib: check what??? do you want me to run at as sudo or something?
[00:35] <jrib> Bodsda: check what environment at is running your commands in...
[00:36] <Bodsda> jrib: /bin/sh
[00:36] <jrib> Bodsda: I mean save the output of "env" somewhere
[00:36] <Gratz474> durt, with an intel card using the uxa or what not they use now was useless, using exa with optimizations or using  xaa made scrolling flawless
[00:37] <Bodsda> jrib: http://pastebin.com/f7be02882
[00:38] <jrib> Bodsda: tell it to save stdout and stderr of your firefox command somewhere then
[00:38] <wes32> hi there. what would a sane way of adding a 'ppa:' link to my software sources through terminal be?
[00:38] <trism> Bodsda: for your at command try DISPLAY=:0.0 firefox www.google.com
[00:38] <trism> Bodsda: that worked for me
[00:38] <durt> Gratz474, so you needed hardware acceleration turned on then.
[00:38] <krisda> hola
[00:38] <trism> Bodsda: or whatever the display you're currently using is
[00:38] <krisda> alguien me puede ayudar
[00:38] <jrib> Bodsda: you ran env inside at right?
[00:38] <GodfatherofEire> jonaskoelker: fixed it, removed fglrx, and used the backup xorg.conf
[00:38] <krisda>  alguien me puede ayudar
[00:39] <durt> !es | krisda
[00:39] <krisda>  alguien me puede ayudar
[00:39] <Bodsda> jrib: is there an easier way to do this? I just need an alarm clock and it is late here
[00:39] <jonaskoelker> GodfatherofEire: awesome :)
[00:39] <Gratz474> durt, in what?
[00:39] <Bodsda> jrib: no
[00:39] <jonaskoelker> I hope my gentle prodding helped :)
[00:39] <Gratz474> durt, it was an intel card
[00:39] <jrib> Bodsda: I meant for you too, but see what trism said anyway
[00:39] <jrib> s/too/to
[00:39] <Gratz474> durt, integrated thing, exa pwned it xaa it worked find
[00:39] <GodfatherofEire> jonaskoelker, a bit, saved me from re-installing it anyway
[00:39] <Gratz474> right now in this nvidia it works pretty well but i feel it could be better
[00:39] <jrib> Bodsda: you can just do something like: sleep [time to sleep goes here]; some command here
[00:40] <Bodsda> jrib: here is env from at http://pastebin.com/m3fefb632
[00:41] <Bodsda> trism: unfortunately that did not work either
[00:41] <durt> Gratz474, understood, xaa is the newest acceleration IIRC.
[00:41] <jonaskoelker> GodfatherofEire: yay, I feel (a bit) useful ;)
[00:41] <trism> Bodsda: what does echo $DISPLAY give you?
[00:41] <fighter> so, i just ran find . -size +0 -exec mv -i {} {}xxx \; and now i have a bunch of files that are named genericporntitle.avixxx, can anyone tell me how to get rid of the xxx's i just added to my files?
[00:41] <Gratz474> durt, i thought it was the oldest?
[00:41] <Bodsda> trism: :0.0
[00:42] <durt> Gratz474, er, actually no, EXA replaced XAA, but UXA is the latest according to wikipedia
[00:42] <Gratz474> yes uxa is just pwned durt
[00:42] <jrib> Bodsda: does gedit work?  (setting DISPLAY properly)
[00:42] <Gratz474> durt, so what is my nvidia card running right now ?
[00:42] <trism> Bodsda: odd, cause I just did at now, then DISPLAY=:0.0 firefox-3.5 www.google.com and it worked perfectly *shrugs*
[00:43] <durt> Gratz474, I don't think nvidia uses Xrendering, it has it's own method.
[00:43] <Bodsda> jrib: trism -- sorry guys, it is so late. I am gonna go with a python   time.sleep((60 * 60) * 6)       to get up in 6 hours
[00:43] <Gratz474> :(
[00:43] <Gratz474> durt, thats not what i wanted to hear heheh
[00:43] <jrib> Bodsda: just use the regular "sleep" command in bash
[00:43] <trism> Bodsda: good luck
[00:43] <Bodsda> jrib: trism -- thanks guys
[00:44] <Gratz474> durt, it works perfect all but the scrolling
[00:44] <durt> Gratz474, I thinkl this is why the whole restricted drivers thing exists.
[00:44] <Gratz474> i feel i can figure it out though but blah
[00:45] <Cojimero> what's up all you guys
[00:45] <fighter> not to much
[00:45] <Gratz474> how can i restart X without closing all the applications?
[00:46] <bastidrazor> Gratz474: you can't.
[00:46] <durt> Gratz474, you can't.
[00:46] <jrib> Gratz474: look into xpra
[00:46] <trism> Gratz474: System/Preferences/Startup Applications, Options tab, remember applications when I log out
[00:46] <Cojimero> I did restart all the drivers today without rebooting
[00:47] <Gratz474> any tips for improving scrolling on a nvidia
[00:47] <Gratz474> i get 1000 fps in glxgears or what not per sec
[00:48] <Gratz474> 800 something actually
[00:48] <Gratz474> i should be able to have some good scrolling
[00:48] <wes32> could one decrypt my encrypted home folder with just my mount passphrase, or would one need my login passphrase as well?
[00:48] <trism> Gratz474: no idea, I have nvidia too and firefox scrolls fine
[00:48] <Gratz474> everything else works perfectly
[00:48] <Gratz474> trism, how about on facebook?
[00:49] <durt> Gratz474, that's fairly low, you should be getting ~5000, do you have the restricted drivers installed/running?
[00:49] <trism> Gratz474: although, do you have smooth scrolling enabled?
[00:49] <trism> Gratz474: I don't have a facebook account so I don't know
[00:50] <Mind_Outburst> pourquoi ubuntu français ne marche plus ?
[00:50] <Gratz474> durt, i am on a geforce 2 :) i was getting 80-100 with the intel
[00:50] <Gratz474> trism, i do not
[00:50] <Gratz474> i have the restricted drivers running yes
[00:50] <trism> Gratz474: the only time scrolling is slow for me is on sites that put several flash applications on a page, but that is more of a flash issue than a firefox one
[00:50] <Gratz474> all effects work everything works fine
[00:50] <Gratz474> just want a better scroll
[00:50] <durt> Gratz474, intel is not the right driver, nvidia 96.x is.
[00:51] <Gratz474> durt, i meant the intel integrated card i used before
[00:51] <Gratz474> it was horrrrible
[00:51] <Gratz474> 100 fps per sec if i was lucky
[00:51] <Gratz474> in the demo
[00:52] <Cojimero> ya guyz windows crappy & came out today ...lol
[00:52] <w30> 34141 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6828.139 FPS GeForce 7900/GT/GTO
[00:52] <Gratz474> trism, yea but i am sure you have a much higher one
[00:52] <ror> it's amazing the details people like. Of all the bits about ubuntu, the one thing that really convinced my friend that it was alright was the ability to re-order windows on the taskbar
[00:52] <Gratz474> w30, yhes geforce 2 here
[00:53] <Gratz474> w30, the intel i was getting 80-100
[00:53] <wes32> ror: best not tell him windows 7 finally has that feature as well
[00:53] <Gratz474> and the ephiphany browser was not even usable
[00:53] <Gratz474> what do they do different scrolling wise?
[00:53] <Gratz474> heh
[00:53] <BlackDogg> hello
[00:54] <Cojimero> yeah after so many years
[00:54] <ror> lol, well in the words of microsoft "time for a new pc"
[00:54] <ror> ridiculous how that is supposed to somehow be a positive message
[00:54] <Gratz474> going from 24 bit color to 16 will there be a difference?
[00:54] <trism> Gratz474: I don't know I only have a nvidia geforce 6800, it is kind of old
[00:54] <Gratz474> trism, yes, this is just super temporary
[00:54] <Cojimero> yeah thats what I can see too
[00:55] <ror> I have a nvidia 6600gt, works well, what's the issue here?
[00:55] <trism> ror: Gratz474 is having scrolling problems in firefox
[00:55] <Cojimero> hey what yall guys know about the new USB 3.0
[00:56] <ror> have you tried disabling smooth scrolling?
[00:56] <ror> about:config then general.smoothscroll
[00:56] <ror> turning that off helps a lot if you're finding scrolling slow
[00:57] <ror> personally I hate "smooth" scrolling anywya
[00:57] <valeoelite777> valeo here what good
[00:57] <Gratz474> ror, its something to do with how the nvidia driver does scrolling
[00:58] <valeoelite777> my logitech go smooth scrolling if that what you mean
[00:58] <BlackDogg> my 8500GT works fine too
[00:58] <durt> ror, holy crap, disabling that worked for me, I NEVER KNEW!
[00:59] <detrix> I just came across a .jp2 picture file.  and my installation of ubuntu does not support it.  Is there any support for .jp2 (jpeg 2000 files)???
[00:59] <trev_js> Need advice:  I'm trying to use gpart to copy my partitions to a new hard-drive.  Currently trying to move an NTFS partition, and I can't tell if it is locked up or actively copying.  Should there be a progress bar?
[00:59] <BlackDogg> but strangely i had that problem that i dont understand, like my os lost all graphics config
[01:00] <Gratz474> i still dont qutie understand this
[01:00] <Gratz474> is going from 24 bit color to 16 going to change anything?
[01:00] <trism> Gratz474: I doubt it
[01:01] <durt> Gratz474, again, as far as FF is concerned, highly doubtful.
[01:01] <Gratz474> trism, i have experienced a performance improvement from going from 32 to 16 before
[01:01] <trev_js> Anyone up for a gparted question?  Anybody used it recently?
[01:01] <trism> Gratz474: give it a shot then, I haven't noticed any difference, unless of course it was through vnc or something, cause then smaller images to send over the network
[01:03] <Chilaquiles> hey guys any ideas: is there any program in ubuntu for changing a image from jpg or any other kind of image and can convert them to bmp?
[01:03] <PacketCollision> trev_js: don't remember if it has a progress bar, is your disk light on?
[01:03] <Chilaquiles> and also to be able to do this
[01:03] <Chilaquiles> metal.bmp bits per pixel is not 24: 8
[01:03] <trev_js> hey chila, have you tried GIMP?
[01:03] <PacketCollision> if so, it is probably actively copying.
[01:03] <Chilaquiles> no
[01:03] <Chilaquiles> is that good trev_js?
[01:03] <Gratz474> trism, i mean will i see a visual difference though with the quality of my desktop?
[01:03] <trev_js> yeah, there is a progress bar, but it just bounces back and forth
[01:04] <Chilaquiles> cuz i dont understand this error in my c program
[01:04] <Chilaquiles> metal.bmp bits per pixel is not 24: 8
[01:04] <Chilaquiles> so can i do that in GIMP?
[01:04] <trev_js> Chila: Gimp handles a lot of differant filetypes
[01:04] <trism> Gratz474: probably not, there are differences, but they really aren't noticable most of the time
[01:04] <Chilaquiles> cool
[01:04] <Chilaquiles> and you say i can convert the filetype that i want right?
[01:04] <Chilaquiles> from jpg to bmp or whatever?
[01:05] <Gratz474> what does  sync to blank mean and allow flipping mean?
[01:05] <trev_js> Chila: You can open it up and save it in the format you want
[01:05] <Gratz474> trism, do you have any idea on that ?
[01:05] <Chilaquiles> ok cool
[01:05] <Chilaquiles> i will try it
[01:05] <Chilaquiles> thanks trev_js
[01:05] <trev_js> np
[01:05] <rabies> pavucontrol wont open, it just gives an error message
[01:06] <rabies> ERROR:pavucontrol.cc:574:void StreamWidget::setVolume(const pa_cvolume&, bool): assertion failed: (v.channels == channelMap.channels)
[01:06] <rabies> Aborted
[01:06] <rabies> i mean i just installed ubuntu =(
[01:07] <Chilaquiles> looks like you have to do some programming rabies
[01:07] <rabies> bite me Chilaquiles
[01:07] <trev_js> Back to my gparted issue, trying to copy an ntfs partition, and I think GParted is stuck.  The hard disk light is off now actually
[01:07] <Chilaquiles> what?
[01:08] <rabies> if you want to help, help Chilaquiles, if not, keep your smart ass remarks to yourself
[01:08] <Chilaquiles> sure rabies
[01:08] <trism> Gratz474: the allow flipping is to allow opengl to page flip if possible
[01:09] <valeoelite777> not a lot of people on the chat lines
[01:09] <Chilaquiles> lol
[01:09] <Gratz474> trism, let me do a restart
[01:10] <trism> Gratz474: and sync to vblank means that opengl applications will swap buffers during the vertical retrace
[01:12] <detrix> how do I view a .jp2(jpeg-2000) pic?
[01:13] <Cojimero> there is any way you can set a dial up access to your home desktop and that this one share your home internet connection through ssh
[01:15] <craigbass1976> I need to get something from tape (cassette -- they were out before CDs in case nobody in here remembers them) to MP3.  What's the best course of action, after I have the tape deck plugged into the computer?  I have gnome-sound-recorder running and can capture.  To what format though, and then what's the best tool to convert to mp3 with?
[01:15] <ror> detrix, if your normal image viewer doesn't support it (and it should?) then you could try converting it with image magick
[01:16] <MK13> anyone here that could help me get frostwire working?
[01:16] <gnuisancev4> where does the new tomboy in karmic save the *.note files... i'm trying to restore what i have saved in ubuntu one and it's a no go...
[01:17] <trism> gnuisancev4: might have better luck asking in #ubuntu+1
[01:17] <maco> gnuisancev4: ~/.tomboy/ is where its always been. dont think its changed
[01:18] <gnuisancev4> thanks trism, but this is specific the new tomboy in karmic... even if i open the app and create a note, there's no ~/.tomboy directory.  There's a ~/.config/Tomboy/ directory but there's no *.note files in it from my test notes
[01:19] <Baltazar> I have a ssh server and i only want it to be accessible from lan, is it enough to set ListenAddress in sshd_config to the (ssh hosting) computers ip?
[01:19] <Baltazar> Should be from lan only
[01:19] <wes32> in an encrypted home folder: is it safe to give out my mount password assuming they will not retrieve my login password?
[01:19] <gnuisancev4> we32 -- no
[01:20] <wes32> gnuisancev4: what could one do with just my mount passphrase? the mount passphrase needs the login passphrase to be of any use, does it not?
[01:20] <wes32> i've been reading up on ecryptfs but I seem to be getting contradictory information on this specific issue
[01:20] <gnuisancev4> the whole point of encryption is so that if someone has physical access to the box they can't get to the data, even if they rebooted with a livecd
[01:20] <Gratz474> any of you guys know how to tweak the xorg?
[01:21] <Gratz474> how can i get it to start x server with 16 bit color?
[01:21] <jaquer> Quick Q: I'm currently using Intrepid and want to update to the Karmic RC. Do I have to install Jaunty first?
[01:21] <craigbass1976> MK13, what's the matter with it?
[01:21] <trism> jaquer: yes
[01:21] <MenZa> jaquer: Yes, but I *highly* recommend you install it from scratch.
[01:21] <wes32> gnuisancev4: with all due respect, what does that have to do with my question?
[01:21] <MenZa> jaquer: The update currently has an issue with the bootloader, which won't allow that specific part to be updated.
[01:21] <wes32> jaquer: considering the changes made in Karmic, I second MenZa's suggestion (new GRUB and ext4)
[01:21] <craigbass1976> MK13, I set up frostwire for the first time a couple months ago in hardy and jaunty; not a hitch
[01:22] <jaquer> Sounds good. Thanks all.
[01:22] <MenZa> Np :)
[01:22] <craigbass1976> wes32, what's up with ext4?  What's new?
[01:23] <jtmcgee> Hey guys, I have a quick question needing advice. I have this really slow computer, and a really fast one. The slow one is miserable to use, but could I remote desktop (viewing) into a virtual ubuntu on the fast comuter, and would that be faster?
[01:23] <wes32> craigbass1976: it's like ext3, but slightly better in most regards :)
[01:23] <MK13> craigbass1976, it just gives an error when trying to start,  http://pastebin.com/d568a604d
[01:23] <eduardo_> #ubuntu
[01:23] <gnuisancev4> wes32:  the mount passphrase can be used with a live cd, as long as someone has the mount passphrase, bypassing the OS and mounting it and retrieving the data isn't hard to do.  you asked if it was save, i said no and that's why
[01:23] <wes32> craigbass1976: the one thing i'm noticing is a minor speed increase, but that might be mentally
[01:23] <MK13> craigbass1976: i do notice the message about a corrupt frostwire.jar
[01:23] <craigbass1976> MK13, how did you install java?
[01:24] <eduardo_> hey:D
[01:24] <wes32> gnuisancev4: ah I see. so my thinking of needing the login passphrase to decrypt the mount passphrase is rather bogus, then? because that's what many ubuntu-related websites are suggesting
[01:24] <Leif> Samba Error: Unknown enumerated value ads for security
[01:24] <craigbass1976> MK13, oh, and you're running 64 bit?  I've no experience wiht that
[01:24] <MK13> craigbass1976: yea, i am on 64 bit
[01:24] <trism> jtmcgee: I don't know about the virtual ubuntu part, but otherwise that's what I'm doing...vnc and ssh on the laptop to a faster desktop, works fine
[01:25] <Leif> can some one help me with a samba error?
[01:25] <jtmcgee> trism: cool, but if like even clicking a button, and a menu popping up takes a long time, would that also make the virt. server just as slow to use?
[01:26] <trism> jtmcgee: not with vnc, since vnc just sends pictures of the desktop back
[01:26] <jhouse> Why do I have green checkmarks everywhere with 9.10?
[01:26] <MK13> craigbass1976: it isn't supposed to have a problem with 64bit, and i installed jre via : sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[01:26] <jtmcgee> Okay... would VNC be the fastest option though? It was pretty slow when I used it for windows to windows.
[01:27] <gOLDfeesh> I had a question about Fluxbox.. is it as easy to remove it as removing xcfe? Or will it leavve a bunch of files behind?
[01:27] <ntsasng> Hi!
[01:27] <ntsasng> :)
[01:27] <ntsasng> I want to create a shortcut, as is how?
[01:27] <trism> jtmcgee: I can't really imagine much faster. there's freenx which is a faster remote x session, but I would think that would be slower
[01:28] <craigbass1976> My java was installed via the file on sun's site.  I can talk you through that, but it might not be the problem in the first place
[01:28] <jtmcgee> okay, what about the built in Remote Desktop Viewer?
[01:28] <IdleOne> !java64 | MK13 try this
[01:28] <Chaorain> I have seen Ubuntu netbook remix and want to try it but I don't have a netbook. Can I still run it on my desktop?
[01:28] <ntsasng> I want to create a shortcut, as is how?
[01:28] <MK13> idleone, thanks but not realated to my question
[01:28] <trism> jtmcgee: I use Gnome Remote Desktop for the server (System/Preferences/Remote Desktop) and xvnc4viewer on the laptop (it is a pretty fast vnc viewer for x)
[01:29] <jtmcgee> trism: okay thanks, i am expierimenting with it now
[01:29] <Leif> ntsasng: Right Click Make Link
[01:31] <craigbass1976> I need to get something from tape (cassette) to MP3.  What's the best course of action, after I have the tape deck plugged into the computer?  I have gnome-sound-recorder running and can capture.  To what format though, and then what's the best tool to convert to mp3 with?
[01:32] <trism> gOLDfeesh: should be easy enough to remove with sudo apt-get purge fluxbox, and the user configs should all be stored in ~/.fluxbox
[01:32] <ae86-drifter> whats a good way to completely wipe my ubuntu
[01:32] <gOLDfeesh> trism, alright thanks a lot. I know when you install xubuntu and what not (xcfe) it leavevs a bunch of libs and stuff behind.
[01:33] <gOLDfeesh> ae86-drifter,  delete the partition
[01:33] <ae86-drifter> rm -rf /
[01:33] <IdleOne> ae86-drifter: please don't do that
[01:33] <ae86-drifter> ok
[01:33] <ae86-drifter> but i wanna keep my home folder
[01:33] <xaris> lol dont do that
[01:33] <trism> gOLDfeesh: there are relatively few dependencies for fluxbox, and you should be able to remove those after you uninstall fluxbox with sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:34] <ae86-drifter> my home folder is mounted in partition /
[01:34] <IdleOne> !home
[01:34] <ae86-drifter> i dont have a home partition
[01:34] <ae86-drifter> i know what a home folder is
[01:34] <ae86-drifter> lol
[01:34] <IdleOne> keep reading
[01:35] <ae86-drifter> i know how to move it to a separate partition
[01:35] <ae86-drifter> i dont think i explained myself enough
[01:35] <IdleOne> so what is your question
[01:36] <ae86-drifter> i need to keep the conents of /home but sesize the partition so i can create a new / partition
[01:36] <xaris> chmod +t /dir , removes delete permissions from files ?
[01:36] <IdleOne> use gparted
[01:36] <ae86-drifter> will i lose my data by resizing???
[01:36] <trism> ae86-drifter: the idea is no, but it is always best to backup before you attempt it
[01:36] <IdleOne> backing up is always a safe idea
[01:37] <magikid> ok I may have deleted my /dev folder.  Where can I restore it from?  I've got an ubuntu CD laying around.
[01:37] <ae86-drifter> lol
[01:38] <wes32> do I finally understand it right by saying only the mount passphrase is needed to decrypt the data in ecryptfs, but the login passphrase is needed to decrypt the file the mount passphrase is stored in?
[01:38] <ae86-drifter> ur screwed
[01:38] <maco> wes32: yep, believe so
[01:38] <magikid> ae86-drifter, thanks for the help but there's got to be some way.
[01:38] <wes32> I knew i'd get there eventually. ;) ty
[01:38] <omeddragon> how do I remove a file owned by root is a java folder
[01:39] <maco> omeddragon: sudo
[01:39] <maco> omeddragon: either "sudo rm" it or run "gksudo nautilus" and do it graphically
[01:39] <ae86-drifter> reinstall
[01:39] <xTheGoat121x> I'm trying to get a bluetooth headset working for Skype... I can get the headset to pair but that's about it.
[01:40] <ae86-drifter> i think typing "sudo rm -rf /" will fix most problem in ubuntu?
[01:40] <LjL> !danger
[01:40] <ae86-drifter> then type your root pw
[01:41] <ae86-drifter> should i not?
[01:41] <ae86-drifter> i was told its good
[01:41] <magikid> ae86-drifter, wow, you are one of the most unhelpful people I've ever seen in this room
[01:41] <LjL> ae86-drifter: stop being an asshat, will you?
[01:41] <IdleOne> ae86-drifter: not being very helpful are you. troll
[01:41] <ae86-drifter> it optimizes
[01:41] <Leif> I am looking for some Samba/Active Directory information.
[01:41]  * xTheGoat121x rolls eyes
[01:42] <Leif> I have kerberos working I just can't get the samba working with it.
[01:42] <lwizardl> can windows scr screen savers be used on linux?
[01:43] <Leif> sudo net ads join fails
[01:43] <Leif> Samba Error: Unknown enumerated value ads for security
[01:43] <gOLDfeesh> Is there an app that i need to install so I can make themes for ubuntu?
[01:43] <magikid> ok, here's a question.  If I'm reinstalling ubuntu and I've got a seperate / partition, do I need to install it any differently?
[01:44] <OzFalcon> What firefox video player plugins are available other than "mozilla-mplayer"????
[01:44] <bastidrazor> magical: specify which partition is / .. and which is /home .. you'll be doing a manual partition option in the installer
[01:45] <genii> apt-cache search plugin|grep mozilla
[01:45] <kermit> can i hibernate and boot into a new kernel?
[01:45] <trism> gOLDfeesh: themes are usually just a collection of config files and images, so you really should just need a text editor and gimp for most of them, check out  http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials
[01:45] <kermit> if i hibernate since there's been a kernel upgrade, i think ubuntu tries and fails
[01:46] <trism> gOLDfeesh: might try downloading a couple themes and playing with the configs to see what happens
[01:46] <magikid> bastidrazor, thanks, that's what I thought
[01:47] <Baltazar3> Hi all, How can enable automatic logon from the command prompt?
[01:47] <bastidrazor> magikid: if you have more than one drive be sure to know which partition / is on for the gurb set up and the last stage of installing
[01:47] <bastidrazor> magikid: grub
[01:48] <xTheGoat121x> If I install Karmic RC... will there be an option to upgrade the full version once it's released?
[01:48] <stinky> ²
[01:48] <jmcantrell> does anyone know how to install gstreamer0.10-plugins-farsight in jaunty?
[01:48] <stinky> ±
[01:49] <LjL> xTheGoat121x: no option is needed. just stay updated, and you'll be on the final version without even knowing.
[01:49] <gOLDfeesh> jmcantrell, apt-get?
[01:49] <magikid> bastidrazor, thanks.  I think I've figured it out.  I still have access to links so I looked it up
[01:49] <LjL> xTheGoat121x: unless of course karmic breaks in the meanwhile, which can always happens!
[01:49] <gOLDfeesh> or aptitude..
[01:49] <jmcantrell> gOLDfeesh: it complains that it's trying to overwrite a file that's in gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
[01:49] <jmcantrell> how is karmic? is it pretty usable at this point?
[01:50] <bastidrazor> magikid: good luck
[01:50] <LjL> !karmic
[01:50] <magikid> bastidrazor, thanks a bunch
[01:50] <xTheGoat121x> LjL, thanks, I appreciate it. I was considering installing the RC but seeing as it's mid-semester... I'd rather not have to install twice in one week
[01:51] <timhte> :D
[01:55] <shadowblade1> Hi all, my network connection on my other laptop suddenly stopped working. Rest of the network cannot see it and it cannot see out (nmap -sP [local network] sees this machine and some unknown other IP that no other machine on the network knows anything about, or me). I literally did not change anything and updates are not automatic. Please help./etc/network/interfaces http://pastebin.com/m217def24
[01:55] <trism> Baltazar3: System/Administration/Login Window on the security tab
[01:55] <trism> Baltazar3: oh sorry I missed the from the command prompt
[01:55] <smee> Hi.  My ubuntu (9.04) screen goes black after the startup load screen.  Does anyone know what it might be?
[01:55] <smee>  I tried using earlier kernel versions and the recovery mode, but I get the same black screen (with some strange color patterns in the upper part of the screen).
[01:56] <shadowblade1> Forgot to mention this is hardy
[01:58] <matelot> Q: Right clicking a USB device (thumb drive) > "Unmount volume" --- this is equivalent to Windoz's "Eject", right ?
[01:58] <Kuifje111> smee: something wrong with X server? did you try to login with a shell instead of desktop manager?
[01:58] <bmwerks> i dont have a gui for compiz because i have a onboard vidcard how can i turn off the redirect from the terminal
[01:58] <linxeh> matelot: yes
[01:58] <bmwerks> the redirect on fullscreen tht is
[01:58] <linxeh> matelot: since you cant eject a usb device.
[01:59] <matelot> thx linxeh - so after "unmount volume" - it
[01:59] <matelot> is safe to remove
[01:59] <matelot> the USB
[01:59] <matelot> like in Windows
[02:00] <bmwerks> i dont have a gui for compiz because i have a onboard vidcard how can i turn off the redirect from the terminal
[02:00] <bmwerks> the redirect on fullscreen tht is
[02:01] <Kuifje111> matelot: as far as I know you go to the right corner where those icons are and then 'unmount' the USB drive in windows.
[02:01] <matelot> linxeh, right , that's how it is done in Win
[02:01] <matelot> i mean Kuifje111
[02:02] <Kuifje111> ok
[02:02] <smee> Kuifje111:  i don't know how to do that
[02:02] <smee> Kuifje111:  i tried pressing Ctrl-Alt-F keys, on the black screen, but that didn't help
[02:03] <Kuifje111> smee: what did you get with ctrl+alt+backspace?
[02:03] <Kuifje111> smee: you should edit the GRUB boot record.
[02:03] <smee> Kuifje111:  i got nothing
[02:04] <shadowblade1> Hi all, my network connection on my other laptop running Hardy suddenly stopped working. Rest of the network cannot see it and it cannot see out (nmap -sP [local network] sees this machine and some unknown other IP that no other machine on the network knows anything about, or me). I literally did not change anything and updates are not automatic. Please help./etc/network/interfaces :  http://pastebin.com/m217def24
[02:04] <smee> Kuifje111: i don't know what a GRUB boot record is or how to edit it.:-(
[02:04] <Kuifje111> GRUB is where you press enter to boot ubuntu
[02:05] <smee> where can i access it?
[02:05] <Kuifje111> you should press "e" if I remember correctly there.
[02:05] <DaZ> smee: /boot/menu.lst? :f
[02:05] <Kuifje111> when you boot your PC there comes a screen
[02:05] <DaZ> /boot/grub/menu.lst*
[02:06] <Kuifje111> you should press "e" there
[02:06] <Kuifje111> then edit one of those lines
[02:06] <smee> ok..now what?
[02:06] <DaZ> ah, he can't log in :f
[02:06] <Kuifje111> and append "init=/bin/sh"
[02:06] <Doonz> hey guys, what does it mean when i can ping an ip but not a domain name
[02:06] <Kuifje111> yeah, there's no need.
[02:06] <DaZ> Doonz: no dns
[02:06] <Billiard> Doonz: dns prob
[02:06] <Kuifje111> Doonz: means the DNS is malfuctioning
[02:06] <smee> DaZ: actually i have hardy on another partition that i can log into and access the jaunty files
[02:07] <Kuifje111> smee: you could as well mount the HDD from there then.
[02:07] <Kuifje111> to edit files.
[02:07] <HowDoI> Doonz, sounds like a DNS problem
[02:07] <Doonz> OK, question 2. How can i remote desktop into a server located miles away but when i log onto the desktop the network icon says no active connection
[02:07] <DaZ> smee: doing what Kuifje111 said is faster
[02:08] <Kuifje111> take of care of the fact that it wont boot a desktop manager or/and login manager
[02:08] <Kuifje111> -of*
[02:08] <smee>  Kuifje111: does it matter what line i edit?
[02:08] <DaZ> smee: kernel line
[02:08] <Kuifje111> yeah, I guess you should do the second one
[02:08] <smee> ok
[02:09] <Kuifje111> ubuntu keeps you knowledgeless.
[02:09] <Kuifje111> about the basic stuff.
[02:09] <sblunix> Kuifje111: I disagree :P
[02:10] <Kuifje111> well, except if you choose the server version.
[02:10]  * DaZ agrees
[02:10] <Doonz> so nobody
[02:11] <shadowblade1> anyone got anything?
[02:11] <smee> ok.  now what should i do?
[02:11] <LiteHedded> just installed ubuntu for the first time since version 6. don't remember anything about it. what should I do FIRST?
[02:11] <Kuifje111> boot
[02:11] <LjL> shadowblade1: no, no one got nothing
[02:11] <Kuifje111> enter
[02:12] <Kuifje111> shadowblade1: all i've got is a PC.
[02:12] <smee>  Kuifje111: i did. i'm in the shell i guess
[02:12] <Kuifje111> smee: ok then
[02:12] <Doonz> hey guys, what does it mean when i can ping an ip but not a domain name
[02:12] <Billiard> LiteHedded: do my homework lol
[02:12] <Doonz> OK, question 2. How can i remote desktop into a server located miles away but when i log onto the desktop the network icon says no active connection
[02:12] <LiteHedded> besides that...
[02:13] <rigodeni> im trying to get my unsupported Scanner working using VirtualBox, I have vistax64 on it now, drivers installed for it, but how do i enable the Serial Port?
[02:13] <Kuifje111> smee: go to /home/<your user>/
[02:13] <LiteHedded> i remember i had to add servers to some list....that hosted applications I could install?
[02:13] <LiteHedded> that ring a bell to anyone?
[02:13] <Kuifje111> smee: try nano /etc/inittab as well.
[02:13] <Billiard> LiteHedded: what are you trying to install
[02:13] <smee>  Kuifje111: ok
[02:13] <DaZ> LiteHedded: LiteHedded don't they have any newbie guide on the forum or wiipedia? ;f
[02:13] <jeez1234> hi, anyone from India? whats the fastest mirror for india?
[02:14] <smee>  Kuifje111: inittab is empty
[02:14] <DaZ> s/pedia//
[02:14] <rigodeni> how do i find out what serial port my scanner is using?
[02:14] <LiteHedded> probably
[02:14] <Kuifje111> smee: nano /home/<user you're using>/.xinitrc
[02:14] <trism> LiteHedded: all the default ubuntu repositories you want to enable can be set up in System/Administration/Software Sources
[02:14] <DaZ> smee: more likely you mistyped ;f
[02:14] <LiteHedded> repositories. there ya go that's what it was :P
[02:15] <LiteHedded> i had to configure my wireless adapter manually with iwconfig. will i have to do that everytime?
[02:15] <PacketCollision> Doonz: DNS error for first q
[02:15] <Kuifje111> smee: with this rate it's going to take to 10AM (3:15 AM now, my time).
[02:15] <LiteHedded> gui didn't work
[02:16] <trism> LiteHedded: yes, unless you set it up in /etc/network/interfaces
[02:16] <arancino> iao, buon giorno atutti
[02:16] <PacketCollision> Doonz: second question, maybe network manager isn't managing the interface?
[02:16] <Kuifje111> smee: there's probably something wrong with your ati/nvidia drivers or/and desktop manager.
[02:16] <smee>  Kuifje111: sorry, it's empty too.  i'm trying it again.
[02:16] <mgv1> where can i find the african safari ubuntu wallpaper?
[02:16] <rigodeni>  how do i find out what serial port my scanner is using?
[02:17] <Kuifje111> "/etc/inittab" is not very likely to be empty.
[02:17] <bastidrazor> mgv1: gnome-look.org is a goodplace to start looking.
[02:17] <Doonz> PacketCollision: if its not where do i look?
[02:17] <mb_again_> !wallpaper
[02:17] <Kuifje111> ~/.xinitrc can be empty.
[02:17] <Blank__> rigodeni, lsusb?
[02:17] <jacquesdupontd> hey guys i have a little problem that i can't pass it must be so simple
[02:17] <PacketCollision> Doonz: /etc/network/interfaces
[02:17] <mgv1> bastidrazor, its there?
[02:17] <rigodeni> Blank__: yes its USB
[02:17] <jacquesdupontd> im making a function in bashrc and there's a wget inside and it never stop with ctrl+c
[02:18] <Doonz> PacketCollision: ok thanx
[02:18] <jacquesdupontd> i have to close the terminal
[02:18] <Blank__> that's the command, rigodeni
[02:18] <Blank__> in terminal, lsusb
[02:18] <smee>  Kuifje111: the nano screen comes up, but there is no text
[02:18] <jacquesdupontd> but that's the only command that repeats and can't be closed
[02:18] <PacketCollision> jacquesdupontd: wget likes to capture some signals, check the man page
[02:18] <DaZ> jacquesdupontd: why do you want to use wget in bahrc >:
[02:18] <jacquesdupontd> someone is following me ?
[02:18] <Kuifje111> smee: that is rather peculiar.
[02:18] <LiteHedded> so just add 'iwconfig essid 'ssid of my network' to /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:18] <mb_again_> jacquedupontd: are you starting it backtground (&)?
[02:18] <rigodeni> Blank__: by bad, thanks, it returned "Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04a9:1900 Canon, Inc. CanoScan LiDE 90"
[02:19] <jacquesdupontd> no i want to see the evolution of the download
[02:19] <Blank__> you're welcome
[02:19] <kinto> can someon give me some advice on installing ubuntu on PS3, the install is stuck at formatting swap and won't leave 0%
[02:19] <trism> jacquesdupontd: maybe http://rimuhosting.com/knowledgebase/linux/misc/trapping-ctrl-c-in-bash
[02:19] <jacquesdupontd> i'll show you my script pastebin
[02:19] <Gratz474> thought i would try out the onboard once more, i can't run glxgears i get Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:19] <Gratz474> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[02:19] <Gratz474>  what does this mean?
[02:19] <jacquesdupontd> trism, i was searching for this the trapping thing
[02:19] <rigodeni> Blank__: so now i need to activate that port on my virtual machine in vitualbox
[02:19] <mb_again_> jd: one sec ...
[02:20] <smee>  Kuifje111: i can try looking at it from the other ubuntu partition
[02:20] <Blank__> rigodeni, not sure i can help there, last time i fiddled with usb in virtualbox it caused nothing but problems
[02:20] <jacquesdupontd> trism but where do i put that trap thing ?
[02:20] <Gratz474> anyone got any suggestions?
[02:20] <mb_again_> jd: mine stops clean on a control c, is there anything else non standard about your setup?
[02:20] <jacquesdupontd> trism, in bashrc function i just put trap ?
[02:21] <Gratz474> wooow using the onboard scrolling is soooooo much smoother
[02:21] <Gratz474> i mean yea the onboard has to be able to have effects then
[02:21] <DaZ> Gratz474: ? ;f
[02:22] <rigodeni> Blank__: in this output "Bus 001 Device 002: ID 04a9:1900" what is the "IRQ" and "I/O Port" ?
[02:22] <Gratz474> DaZ, huh?
[02:22] <Blank__> no idea, rigodeni :(
[02:22] <DaZ> nothing.
[02:22] <Kuifje111> smee: I am off to bed, good luck solving your problem.
[02:23] <smee>  Kuifje111: ok.  thanks for trying.
[02:23] <Gratz474> with an intel card do i have to turn on compositing?
[02:23] <Turk_> hi
[02:23] <Turk_> hu's on?
[02:23] <degenerate> not at the moment no
[02:23] <Turk_> http://authspot.com/poetry/yesterday-18/
[02:23] <trism> jacquesdupontd: right I forgot you made this function in bashrc, not sure
[02:24] <Turk_> http://tecnoclubmix.blogspot.com/
[02:24] <jacquesdupontd> we can't use ctrl+c in a bash function ? that's weird
[02:24] <Turk_> http://turk-dailyphotoblog.blogspot.com/
[02:24] <bastidrazor> Turk_: please don't advertise
[02:25] <Turk_> ok
[02:25] <Turk_> sorry
[02:25] <mgv1> where to i move fonts to?
[02:25] <DaZ> mgv1: ~/.fonts
[02:25] <canthus13> mgv1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[02:26] <mgv1> what is ~ DaZ ?
[02:26] <DaZ> mgv1: home directory
[02:26] <mgv1> DaZ, no such dic there
[02:26] <mgv1> dir
[02:26] <Turk_> http://turk-dailyphotoblog.blogspot.com/
[02:26] <DaZ> mgv1: so create it.
[02:27] <LiteHedded> do i need to put my essid in /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:27] <LiteHedded> so far i just have this:
[02:27] <LiteHedded> auto eth1
[02:27] <LiteHedded> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[02:27] <LiteHedded> ...below the loopback
[02:27] <mgv1> DaZ, dont know how to
[02:28] <DaZ> mgv1: mkdir ~/.fonts
[02:28] <jacquesdupontd> trism, i pastebined you
[02:29] <necromnicon> how do i change the modified date for a group of files in a directory?
[02:29] <Gratz474> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:29] <Gratz474> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[02:29] <mgv1> DaZ, haha thanks - ive alrady typed this code gksu nautilus /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[02:29] <Gratz474> what does this mean?
[02:29] <fcuk112> necromnicon: man touch?
[02:30] <trism> jacquesdupontd: it could be because you used & on wget and it is starting in the background
[02:30] <Wutwut> o
[02:30] <DaZ> Gratz474: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:31] <joaquin> hola
[02:31] <jacquesdupontd> trism, without the & the vlc comming next doesn't launch
[02:31] <jacquesdupontd> trism, how to put the wget in the frontground ?
[02:32] <trism> jacquesdupontd: are you trying to launch vlc before the download finishes?
[02:32] <jacquesdupontd> no
[02:32] <LiteHedded> what's the command to restart networking?
[02:32] <jacquesdupontd> yes
[02:32] <necromnicon> fcuk112: touch is kinda what i want but it only works for a single file... is there a command that works recursively?
[02:32] <jacquesdupontd> the wget start, the vlc start the download of the wget but i would like to be able to kill all that if it's needed
[02:32] <jacquesdupontd> trism, understood ?
[02:33] <inurneck> msg nickserv register
[02:33] <trism> jacquesdupontd: yeah I get it, why not just vlc http://www.example.com/path/to/file.avi
[02:33] <fcuk112> necromnicon: it works for multiple files as well, e.g. touch *.pl
[02:34] <jacquesdupontd> trism, i was always doing that before and my script as like 10 better things than this solution i could tell you, you have the file, you download it the fastest possible instead of using the buffer of vlc, you can pause many other reasons
[02:36] <jacquesdupontd> i managed
[02:36] <jacquesdupontd> trism, just putted a kill $! on the end of the script
[02:36] <jacquesdupontd> great
[02:37] <trism> jacquesdupontd: great, I was just about to suggest $!
[02:37] <jacquesdupontd> trism, you should try my script it really works perfectly
[02:37] <ever> #mexico
[02:38] <trism> jacquesdupontd: I actually like to finish downloading before I try to watch any videos, I just queue them up in a text file and wget -i file
[02:38] <jacquesdupontd> and really better than vlc theurl that was freezing if your downloading speed goes down but not taking more data if it goes faster and when there was freezes you were missing the during time of the freeze of the movie
[02:39] <trism> jacquesdupontd: it is definitely an interesting idea though
[02:39] <jacquesdupontd> trism, but i have to ask you something else to make it really perfect, in fact i would like that in the script if in my arg an ".avi" is inside take the name of the file instead of tempmov and if it's a directory do like i did
[02:40] <tobie> i went to a barnes and noble where they had a wireless repeater on their main at&t wifi connection.  i am using b43 from b43-fwcutter.  i was unable to connect to either ATT ssid.  is that a common occurance where repeaters are stationed ?
[02:40] <jacquesdupontd> before i did with the name of the end of the url after the "/" but doesn't works when the file is an url wich only finish by "/" with no file name
[02:40] <jacquesdupontd> trism, you understand ?
[02:40] <jacquesdupontd> i'll show you
[02:40] <n8tuser> tobie nope, its easy to connect
[02:41] <jacquesdupontd> i was doing with a variable call "name" the line was name=$(echo "$1" | rev | cut -f1 -d'/' | rev)
[02:41] <jacquesdupontd> it was taking just myavi.avi of http://url.com/myavi.avi
[02:42] <viziouz> Hello guys!
[02:42] <necromnicon> fcuk112: "find ./ -exec touch {} \;"  does what i want
[02:42] <jacquesdupontd> i just don't really know how to make some if in bash to say to use this solution if "avi" is in the url
[02:42] <viziouz> I need some help to compile usbserial for my Alcatel x030 modem
[02:43] <jacquesdupontd> like if "avi" isin $1 do "myfirstsolution" else "do like now" how would you traduce that to my script trism ?
[02:43] <vijay_> my ubuntu all video player crashes when i open it with in 2 seconds i have updated all drivers Pls help
[02:44] <viziouz> anyone can help me to make usbserial settings for usb 3g modem? please
[02:45] <dfr|mac_> hi all. I am trying to make ubuntu work with my TV. The manual states it supports 852x480 resolution for 16:9 ratio.. but I seem to fail make it use that resolution
[02:45] <dfr|mac_> any hints on what to try?
[02:46] <Billiard> dfr|mac_: your tv supports this this resolution with another machine?
[02:46] <dfr|mac_> Billiard: what do you mean?
[02:46] <dfr|mac_> Billiard: that's the resolution I read from the manual...
[02:47] <Billiard> dfr|mac_: ok, just was wondering if it worked with a different computer
[02:47] <dfr|mac_> Billiard: i haven't really tried... I would imagine that if I plugged a regular monitor, it would work fine...
[02:48] <ageeb> dfr|mac: assuming your trying the right procedure, have you tried any other resolutions? did the manual say that's the max resolution?
[02:48] <dfr|mac_> Billiard: I've played a bit with xrandr according to manuals online... but there're two caveats: 1) for some reason it only wants 856x480 resolution, not 852.... the other is that the "viewable" part of the screen is shifted right and up... and not sure how to tell xrandr to offset it
[02:48] <jacquesdupontd> trism, pastebin for you
[02:48] <vijay_> my ubuntu all video player crashes when i open it with in 2 seconds i have updated all drivers Pls help
[02:49] <dfr|mac_> ageeb: it seems to work with regular 800x600 and stuff, but it's "wide".. basically it seems to display 4:3 in 16:9 aspect...
[02:49] <dfr|mac_> i get a working screen, just messed up the ratio
[02:50] <viziouz> please, someone help me with my hsdpa modem, I have limit of 60KB/s download, while in windows I can reach 1.5mbps, I guess that it may be usbserial driver limitation.
[02:51] <viziouz> if someone has any Idea how to fix that, I will appreciate any help
[02:51] <dfr|mac_> any idea what to try? I am a bit nooby with xrandr configurations... =/
[02:51] <dfr|mac_> there's --pos but i am not sure whether it accepts negative x offsets
[02:51] <ubuntun810> anyone know how to resize a filesystem without changing the partition size (not ext2resize is not available on my architecture)
[02:52] <Billiard> dfr|mac_: what happens when you try the 865 res?
[02:52] <semperfi30> Hello
[02:52] <Billiard> dfr|mac_: 856*
[02:53] <dfr|mac_> Billiard: my screen is mispositioned, i think
[02:53] <dfr|mac_> and I am not sure how to rectify that.
[02:53] <Tyler09> Is this a support channel for ubuntu?
[02:53] <Tyler09> or is there another I should go to
[02:53] <ageeb> dfr|mac: not sure the solution but have you poked around here? http://www.x.org/wiki/Projects/XRandR ?
[02:54] <bobino> I do you get access to root? I always get permission denied...
[02:54] <ubuntun810> tyler09: this is it
[02:55] <Tyler09> Thanks
[02:55] <dfr|mac_> ageeb: yea. But I haven't really found a spot where it talks about rectifying the screen position. There's mentioning of --pos when setting dual-head, but I don't think I can shift it "left"
[02:56] <Tyler09> Well
[02:56] <Billiard> bobino: what are you trying to do?
[02:56] <Tyler09> I'm trying to get my Logitech Quickcam Pro 9000 webcam to work with Pidgin
[02:56] <bobino> I just want to know what it does
[02:56] <Tyler09> But Ubuntu isn't even picking up that it's connected to my computer
[02:56] <Billiard> bobino: what what does?
[02:56] <ubuntun810> anyone know how to resize a filesystem without changing the partition size (not ext2resize is not available on my architecture)
[02:56] <bobino> Billiard: well I want to know whats in that file
[02:57] <Billiard> bobino: what file?
[02:57] <Tyler09> I went and tried to install the UVCVideo drivers but I run into issues when it tries to build the Debian Package
[02:57] <bobino> Billiard: thr root file
[02:57] <Billiard> bobino:  the / directory ?
[02:57] <eniacpx> Tyler09: Does syslog show anything when you plug it in?
[02:58] <bobino> blilliard : yes
[02:58] <bensmith> hello
[02:58] <m0r0n> Can someone help me get spell check in OO Writer to work?
[02:58] <Tyler09> eniacpx how would I go to system log?
[02:58] <Billiard> bobino: you can view the / directory as any user
[02:58] <Tyler09> can I open it from terminal?
[02:58] <bensmith> can someone please respond so in know im doing this right im a noob to irc
[02:58] <m0r0n> Tyler09: Sstem>admin>log fiel viewer
[02:58] <w30> dfr|mac_, a program called xvidtune used to fix skewed screens. I haven't used it for a long time and don't even know if its maintained any more.
[02:59] <eniacpx> Tyler09: In a console, type: sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog, plug the camera in and see if anything pops up.
[02:59] <Tyler09> actually
[02:59] <m0r0n> Tyler09: System>Administrator>Log File Viewr*
[02:59] <Tyler09> Actually
[02:59] <bobino> Billiard: I got an error when trying to access it
[02:59] <Tyler09> would it be more helpful if I showed you all what the log file says for the dkbg?
[02:59] <dfr|mac_> w30: lemme see if apt-get can get it
[02:59] <bobino> Billiard: hold on
[02:59] <Tyler09> dpkg*
[02:59] <eniacpx> Tyler09: sorry, the 'sudo' part is unneeded...
[03:00] <Condoulo> Where would Arora's configuration files be?
[03:00] <w30> dfr|mac_, it would print out a xorg.config file entry that you could paste into your config file
[03:00] <Billiard> ubuntun810: resize2fs ?
[03:00] <bensmith> what is the topic or is it anything ubuntu related
[03:00] <eniacpx> bensmith: anything...
[03:00] <ageeb> anything jaunty really
[03:01] <w30> dfr|mac_, last time I used it was on RedHat 5.0 duh...
[03:01] <bobino> Billiard: I do cd / root
[03:01] <ageeb> ... or older :)
[03:01] <Tyler09> Oct 22 22:00:25 Tyler-desktop kernel: [ 7166.461805] input: UVC Camera (046d:0990) as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-6/1-6:1.0/input/input7
[03:01] <Tyler09> Oct 22 22:00:26 Tyler-desktop pulseaudio[3247]: alsa-util.c: Device hw:1 doesn't support 44100 Hz, changed to 16000 Hz.
[03:01] <Tyler09> Oct 22 22:00:26 Tyler-desktop pulseaudio[3247]: alsa-util.c: Device hw:1 doesn't support 2 channels, changed to 1.
[03:01] <unop> !ot | bensmith
[03:01] <bensmith> holy cow i can talk thanx if inally got this to work
[03:01] <viziouz> please, someone help me with my hsdpa modem, I have limit of 60KB/s download, while in windows I can reach 1.5mbps, I guess that it may be usbserial driver limitation.
[03:01] <viziouz> if someone has any Idea how to fix that, I will appreciate any help
[03:01] <bensmith> what r u downloading
[03:01] <bobino> Billiard : I get in...but when I ask to list the content it says prmission denied
[03:01] <Billiard> bobino: /root you are trying to access, that is different than just /
[03:01] <Tyler09> It shows that it realizes it's connected
[03:01] <Tyler09> but
[03:01] <Tyler09> when in pidgin
[03:01] <Tyler09> I go to media> then video all the options are greyed out
[03:01] <dfr|mac_> w30: seems like it's available... how do I use it? If I just run it, it says "Unable to query monitor info"
[03:02] <Gratz474> how can i see if i am running exa?
[03:02] <Billiard> bobino: /root is owned by the root user, you can view the contents using `sudo ls`
[03:02] <bobino> Billiard: sorry
[03:02] <nickrud> Gratz474,  ps -A | grep exa
[03:02] <bobino> Billiard: ok
[03:02]  * Tyler09 awaiting a response
[03:02] <nickrud> Gratz474, assuming that's the process name it runs under
[03:03] <Gratz474> nickrud, nothing, dont i check the xserver log?
[03:03] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! I have a GUI issue. How can I change Ubuntu9.10 default desktop, menu,task bars, ...into something like Windows 7/Vista (I hate having two bars on my screen, for one) or an Apple look? Also is there a theme which is neater than the default one (I have seen themes on the net but not sure hot to install them)? Thanks (many of the desktop-screencaptures I see from people, they are very nice but no guide how to get there)
[03:03] <kermit> my cpu keeps getting stuck at it's lowest speed on a dell laptop
[03:03] <Gratz474> nickrud, how do i check from the log?
[03:03] <stinky> with the LTS version, how long is the support? 6 years?
[03:03] <bensmith> 3 years
[03:03] <bensmith> not 6
[03:03] <Tyler09> K_Dallas: I don't think there are any robust themes like that for Ubuntu
[03:03] <Billiard> K_Dallas: you can right click the panels and customize them
[03:03] <Billiard> you can move everything to one panel
[03:04] <Tyler09> K_Dallas I picked a desktop picture I liked and changed the colors of everything to match it
[03:04] <viziouz> anyone can help me to make usbserial settings for usb 3g modem? please
[03:04] <doc-saintly> Hi all, i seem to not have any sound in firefox with flash
[03:04] <Gratz474> nickrud, in other words how do i check to see if i am running uxa or exa or whatever?
[03:04] <K_Dallas> Billiard, changing the default desktop etc, has never been good enough
[03:04] <sarthor> i tried on google to search some howto/manual etc, but no success, I want to install pppoe server for my local LAN (No Modem just in on building )on my Ubuntu 9.04 server, Any howto or Documentation?
[03:04] <doc-saintly> t used to be that arestart would fix this, but it seems not to be th case this time
[03:04] <nickrud> Gratz474, you'd do something similar :  grep -i exa  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:04] <Tyler09> doc-saintly: have you tried updating your flash ?
[03:04] <doc-saintly> Tyler09: i just did a full synaptic update,
[03:04] <mgv1> does anyone knows what are the anoyying grey areas? http://yfrog.com/1272546176p
[03:04] <Gratz474> nickrud, yea thats not working, what do the new intel drivers use?
[03:04] <Gratz474> exa?
[03:04]  * Tyler09 still awaiting a response for my issues mentioned earlier...
[03:04] <nickrud> Gratz474, Ithink I spoke to soon, a sec
[03:05] <slawek> bolek
[03:05] <bobino> Billiard : I am in root but when I try ls root it says permission denied
[03:05] <m0r0n> K_Dallas: First of all, '/join #ubuntu+1' secondly http://www.gnome-look.org/ Not sure if anyone has updated it for 9.10 yet though
[03:05] <Ch3mtail> With the USB install mode that's now avaliable from the live CD, you will create a USB installation that retains changes made purely in memory until system shutdown, then writing them to disk to minimize device wear, correct?
[03:05] <eniacpx> Tyler09: Have you tried accessing the camera with any other software, like Ekiga? just to see if it works?
[03:05] <nickrud> Gratz474, you'd use the second one, try uxa if that's what you think is running.   man exa says it's a module, and module loading is reported in the Xorg.0.log
[03:05] <doc-saintly> Ch3mtail: i've never had any luck with it retaining files
[03:05] <K_Dallas> m0r0n, you right but my problem is not really 9.10. It is more general than that
[03:05] <Tyler09> doc-saintly: Hmm I'm not sure, I'm new to ubuntu but I've got a pretty good grasp of the majority of things. So your saying when you play flash movies like say youtube you have video but no sound?
[03:05] <Billiard> bobino: please read my last message again more closely
[03:06] <Tyler09> eniacpx: Is that standard on Jaunty?
[03:06] <doc-saintly> Tyler09: yep
[03:06] <nickrud> Gratz474, and I have no idea what intel would be running, sory
[03:06] <m0r0n> K_Dallas: Try that site, there are some good icon sets and whatnot to do what you want
[03:06] <Gratz474> anyone else here know what intel uses?
[03:06] <eniacpx> Tyler09: It should be. Applications > Internet
[03:06] <Gratz474> exa or uxa?
[03:06] <K_Dallas> m0r0n, thanks. Will do it right away
[03:06] <Gratz474> i can't find either in my log
[03:06] <Tyler09> doc-saintly: have you tried checking your sound settings? check the volume is turned up, also check your internet connection speed
[03:07] <mgv1> after the last installation everything goes so slow on ubuntu
[03:07] <Tyler09> eniacpx: i found it testing now
[03:07] <bensmith> is the karmic beta out yet
[03:07] <Billiard> mgv1: installation of what?
[03:07] <doc-saintly> Tyler09: i am able to get sound through mplayer
[03:07] <nickrud> !karmic | bensmith
[03:07] <Tyler09> eniacpx: how do I test the cam
[03:07] <eniacpx> Tyler09: I am most interested to see if it shows as a camera in the preferences window
[03:07] <bensmith> did they fix that really serious hardware freeze yet
[03:07] <Tyler09> eniacpx: roger checking
[03:07] <nickrud> you'd need to ask there for up to date accuracy most likely
[03:08] <Tyler09> eniacpx: it shows as a UVC Camera
[03:08] <Tyler09> eniacpx: it doesn't detect the actual name of the camera though
[03:08] <bobino> What directory to go to to fix the sound?
[03:08] <Tyler09> eniacpx: is this correct?
[03:09] <bobino> I only have the beeps
[03:09] <Jimmio> Can I still decrypt my PGP encrypted files if I lost my public key?
[03:09] <Gratz474> or does intel use something completely other then uxa or exa?
[03:09] <Tyler09> eniacpx: it says: UVC Camera (046d:0990) (PTLIB/V4L2)
[03:09] <Blehk> Can anyone explain to me how you'd setup ldirectord to be redundant? I'm a little confused on the process. You have one internet connection, how do you guarantee that you either hit one proxy or the other? I mean, do you setup a load balancer infront of the two? And how can you guarantee that when one downs, that the other is the only one that's hit?
[03:09] <eniacpx> Tyler09: Ah, V4L2... Video4Linux. Hold on a sec.
[03:09] <jrib> Jimmio: you have your private key?
[03:10] <mgv1> Billiard, ubuntu
[03:10] <Jimmio> jrib: That I do, yes.
[03:10] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Do I need the avahi-daemon?
[03:10] <nickrud> !sound | bobino
[03:10] <jrib> Jimmio: then I don't see why not
[03:10] <Tyler09> eniacpx: I tried updating the UVC drivers thinking that was the issue but I ran into issues at the end compiling the Debian Package
[03:10] <Tyler09> eniacpx: it installed succesfully but it wouldn't compile the package
[03:10] <Billiard> mgv1: perhaps your videocard isnt properly set up
[03:10] <Tyler09> eniacpx: Can we carry this over to a PM?
[03:10] <eniacpx> Tyler09: Sure
[03:11]  * nickrud is amazed that people are still trying to put debian in ubuntu
[03:11] <bobino> Thanks nickrud!
[03:11] <bobino> !sound
[03:11] <emma> !debian
[03:11] <bad_boyskt> \j beltrao
[03:11] <bobino> !video
[03:11] <jode> I am trying to find a channel or channels best suited for programmind discussions?
[03:12] <nickrud> !msgthebot > bobino
[03:12] <mgv1> Billiard, ive followed a guide for my intel vc - i dont even know how to restore back
[03:12] <Billiard> jode: join the channel for the language you are using
[03:12] <Gratz474> does intel use exa or uxa? or do they use dri2 or what not ????
[03:12] <dfr|mac_> whatever.. maybe I'll just blame the intel graphics card and see if grabbing an nvidia will fix :)
[03:12] <Condoulo> where does Arora store its plugins
[03:12] <m0r0n> Gratz474: I have no idea what your talking about, but what is your main goal your trying to reach?
[03:13] <Blehk> Is there a better channel to ask web scaling questions in?
[03:13] <Gratz474> m0r0n, do you know what exa is? i so confused on what rendering method intel is using now
[03:14] <m0r0n> Gratz474: No clue, but why do you want to know that?
[03:14] <Gratz474> m0r0n, because maybe i am not using the best and could get more performance using another
[03:15] <nickrud> Gratz474, according to http://intellinuxgraphics.org/ , it uses exa
[03:15] <nickrud> Gratz474, erm, wrong order - uxa replaced it
[03:15] <Gratz474> yes but i think that its not that way or something
[03:15] <Gratz474> if i grep uxa i get nothing
[03:16] <IdleOne> Gratz474: UXA was disabled see !intel
[03:16] <nickrud> maybe https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/UxaTesting will be helpful
[03:17] <Gratz474> IdleOne, so whats it using then?
[03:17] <pblchai> holaaaaaaaaaaa jajajaj
[03:17] <Gratz474> from 9.04 performance has improved quite a bit and i am just curious why that is
[03:19] <nickrud> Gratz474, you're running karmic?
[03:19] <Gratz474> nickrud, yes
[03:19] <Gratz474> nickrud, and performance has really improved with the graphics card stuff
[03:19] <nickrud> shame on you, troubleshooting karmic in #ubuntu ;) Try asking in #ubuntu+1 , maybe someone's awake
[03:19] <Gratz474> for intel
[03:19] <Gratz474> and i am just curious why
[03:20] <nickrud> that page I gave has some reasons why
[03:23] <span12> hey
[03:24] <dsnyders> How do I stop chipcardd4 from starting?
[03:24] <viziouz> anyone can help me to make usbserial settings for usb 3g modem? please
[03:24] <span12> how come i cant get my desktop to work..
[03:24] <viziouz> please, someone help me with my hsdpa modem, I have limit of 60KB/s download, while in windows I can reach 1.5mbps, I guess that it may be usbserial driver limitation.
[03:24] <viziouz> if someone has any Idea how to fix that, I will appreciate any help
[03:24] <span12> its says desktop in not enabled
[03:25] <span12> its says desktop effects could not be enabled
[03:25] <n810debian> i found the debian partition, umounted it, and need to change the filesystem size without changing the partition size, ext2resize is not available for my architect, any suggestions?
[03:26] <Brack101> I'm trying to downgrade from Nvidia 180 to 173 and it's stuck, the status bar isn't moving.  What should I do to minimize xorg damage?
[03:26] <n810debian> Brack101: backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:26] <Brack101> last time this happened my video card stopped working alltogether
[03:26] <span12> how do i enable my desktop
[03:26] <Brack101> including VESA
[03:26] <Brack101> oh nm 63%
[03:27] <squisher> evening, can anyone tell me how I can instruct networkmanager to ask for a dhcp address from the command line?
[03:27] <IdleOne> span12: what graphics card?
[03:27] <n810debian> squisher: sudo dhclient -a
[03:28] <span12> nvidia 9800gt
[03:28] <squisher> n810debian, thanks
[03:28] <IdleOne> !nvidia | span12
[03:28] <IdleOne> span12: you probably need to install the proper drivers. see above link
[03:28] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Where's the big list of services that start by init number?
[03:28] <q0_0p> !codecs
[03:29] <n810debian> i found the debian partition, umounted it, and need to change the filesystem size without changing the partition size, ext2resize is not available for my architecture (arm maemo), any suggestions?
[03:29] <losha> !bum
[03:30] <losha> dsnyders: see above re: bum. Gosh I love saying that...
[03:30] <span12> idleone..u used the hardware drivers option in ubuntu and intalled them
[03:30] <span12> but it still dont work
[03:30] <IdleOne> span12: look at that link see if there is any info
[03:30] <span12> already tried that
[03:31] <dsnyders> losha, Thanks... I think.
[03:31] <russlar> !yum
[03:31] <MakeUpYourMind> How do you change the sensitivity of your mouse pad in Ubuntu
[03:34] <n810debian> i found the debian partition, umounted it, and need to change the filesystem size without changing the partition size, ext2resize is not available for my architecture (arm maemo), any suggestions?
[03:37] <NullEntity> I don't know what to do. 9.04 is booting into a terminal (no GDM)
[03:37] <NullEntity> And GDM says that it's not installed
[03:37] <losha> n810debian: do you have resize2fs instead?
[03:37] <n810debian> losha: no, an apt-cache search resize did not show anything except libgparted files
[03:38] <Munchkinguy> Is there a way to set up a shortcut in GNOME so that if I press a certain command (Ctrl-G, for example) it spits out a string of text?
[03:39] <NullEntity> Ignore my previous question. Startx worked
[03:39] <losha> n810debian: not sure I'd trust any resize progs anyway. You may have to do this the old-fashioned way i.e. backup the filesystem somewhere, delete, recreate larger, then copy it back...
[03:39] <n810debian> losha: negative
[03:39] <n810debian> losha: not available for my system arch
[03:39] <n810debian> losha: i have nothing important on it, i can delete it
[03:40] <losha> n810debian: my system (8.04) reports resize2fs is in the e2fsprogs package
[03:41] <Billiard> Munchkinguy: you could set up ctrl+g to run a script which ran a script that used xsendkeys maybe
[03:41] <n810debian> n810: using debian squeeze, no one in the #debian knows anything about it
[03:41] <joseph_> How do I get the UUID of my mounted partitions?
[03:41] <Billiard> Munchkinguy: only one ran a script
[03:41] <n810debian> !UUID | joseph_
[03:41] <thedude42> joseph_, ls -al /dev/disk/by-uuid
[03:42] <span12> this is what iam getting
[03:42] <span12> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[03:43] <frogzoo> !lts
[03:44] <thedude42> span12, did you try installing the nvidia driver from nvidia's site, or from ubuntu restricted?
[03:44] <test34> 9.04 isnt LTS?
[03:44] <thedude42> test34, no it isn't
[03:45] <test34> I thought it was supposed to be all .04
[03:45] <span12> i went to system>adminstration-hardware drivers from the menu
[03:45] <matelot> Q: gnome desktop here - I have, for example, PDFs on the Desktop - how can I make GNOME NOT display thumbnail but just icon ?
[03:45] <Munchkinguy> Billiard: What do you mean by "only one ran a script"? I tried setting up xsendkeys "blah" in Keyboard Shortcuts but it didn't work.
[03:46] <thedude42> span12, well, that sounds like the message you get when you try to run the nvidia configuration utility, and it's the message it gives when you aren't actually running the nvidia driver
[03:46] <span12> i went to system>adminstration-hardware drivers from the menu
[03:46] <span12> so what do i do now?
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> test34: every other .04 - ie, 8.04 and 10.04.
[03:46] <thedude42> span12, what are you trying to do?
[03:46] <tonyyarusso> test34: (with those examples - the scheme can change at any time)
[03:47] <Billiard> Munchkinguy: i said "ran a script twice" i was distracted
[03:47] <test34> ok tonyyarusso
[03:47] <span12> its telling i cannot enable my desktop
[03:47] <n810debian> i found the debian partition, umounted it, and need to change the filesystem size without changing the partition size, ext2resize is not available for my architecture (arm maemo), any suggestions?
[03:47] <Billiard> Munchkinguy: try making a script file that runs xsendkeys, and make sure it works, then execute the script in the keyboard shortcuts
[03:47] <kb9zwj> REGISTER <dierdre7>
[03:48] <Munchkinguy> os
[03:48] <Munchkinguy> *ok
[03:48] <tonyyarusso> n810debian: You would have better luck asking in the Maemo channel.
[03:48] <n810debian> tonyyarusso: i'll try, thanx
[03:48] <thedude42> span12, 'enable my desktop' doesn't mean much to me, are you trying to do something specific like enable certain desktop effects, change the resolution of your display....?
[03:49] <span12> yes enable desktop effects
[03:49] <span12> like rotate cube etc
[03:50] <jammin1> I've installed Ubuntu in one partition on my laptop and then installed win7 in another partition.  How do I get grub(2) to be the bootloader again so I can choose which OS to run?
[03:51] <thedude42> span12, the only way you can enable certain effects is if you have proper 3d acceleration for your video card, so if you aren't able to simply select the 'extra' visual affects from system -> preferences -> appearance, then you probably need the correct driver installed
[03:51] <nickrud> !grub | jammin1
[03:51] <thedude42> !compiz
[03:51] <jammin1> thanks
[03:51] <someonesimple> does anyone know why my MountManger won't start, fresh install
[03:52] <span12> that what i did last time and i had no problems
[04:00] <kiamo> hi
[04:01] <kiamo> my system freezes from time to time, in which log should I be looking in to try and identify the problem?
[04:02] <optimizer> is there an easy way to crak pdfs that require passwords?
[04:03] <nickrud> /var/log/syslog kiamo is the place hardware reports end up
[04:03] <nickrud> if you're lucky
[04:04] <kiamo> hehe ok, thats the one im looking in and Im not getting any hints... :\
[04:04] <valdis4> kiamo: sometimes I just look at the last updated logs with ls -ltr /var/log | tail
[04:05] <joscht> does anyone know why for some reason after the update of moonlight firefox is really sluggish/crashes?
[04:05] <Munchkinguy> Billiard: What should I put for the first line of the script? #!/bin/bash doesn't work.
[04:05] <Billiard> Munchkinguy: that will work
[04:06] <Billiard> Munchkinguy: you also need to make the file executable, otherwise it will need to be run as  `bash scriptname`
[04:07] <Brack101> Hi there
[04:07] <brian__> im about to do a system re install but i wanna backup my apps and pictures and stuff so would i just save my home folder and that will restore everything?
[04:07] <Brack101> what's the default apt repository for Ubuntu? I have this ppa launchpad deal and it's super slow
[04:08] <kiamo> thanks guys, i dont see anything reported in them though :(  Ill just have to hope it stops happening
[04:08] <brian__> what do i backup inorder to get my systm back after a fresh install
[04:09] <bastidrazor> !backup | brian__
[04:09] <Munchkinguy> Billiard: It's executable, but when I type the command into bash, it does not display the characters.
[04:10] <Munchkinguy> It just flashes, and starts a new line
[04:10] <kisuke> hi
[04:11] <Brack101> why is it so difficult to find out which repository I need?
[04:12] <Sirisian> Have you guys ever heard of a module called "nopen"?
[04:12] <bastidrazor> Brack101: apt-cache policy packagename   will tell you which repo a package is in. but the ppa's.. those are a toss up for speeds.
[04:12] <Billiard> Munchkinguy: pastebin your script maybe
[04:13] <Brack101> bastidrazor: do I want deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main restricted
[04:13] <Brack101> which
[04:13] <nichiyume> been trying for 2 hours to start a new display from the command line with the new gdm config style so I can use x11vnc. about to pass out
[04:13] <nichiyume> hah
[04:13] <bastidrazor> !info nopen | Sirisian
[04:14] <bastidrazor> !find nopen | Sirisian
[04:14] <Tyler09> Hello
[04:14] <Tyler09> If I'm using Pidgin
[04:14] <Sirisian> bastidrazor, I think it's a shorthand for something longer.
[04:14] <Tyler09> to log into msn
[04:14] <Munchkinguy> Billiard: http://pastebin.ca/1639265
[04:14] <Tyler09> how to I get pidgin to establish video calls to msn contacts
[04:14] <bastidrazor> Brack101: what are you trying to install?
[04:14] <Tyler09> I try to go to media>video call
[04:14] <Tyler09> but it's greyed out
[04:14] <Tyler09> why is this ?
[04:14] <Sirisian> oh nvm bastidrazor
[04:14] <Brack101> bastidrazor: I'm trying to update all of my applications
[04:15] <make_up_yor_mind> what is the "Drag and Drop Threshhold" option in Mouse Preferences?
[04:15]  * Tyler09 Awaiting Response to Query.
[04:16] <kisuke> Tyler09: voice and video are not supported on anything but xmpp-based protocols yet
[04:17] <Tyler09> kisuke: So there's no way to get a webcam working with someone on an msn protocol on linux?
[04:17] <Tyler09> kisuke: not even with another application?
[04:17] <_FadeOut> Quick question: how do I add 2 lines to /etc/apt/sources.list in the terminal?
[04:18] <kisuke> Tyler09: gimme a min gonna go see google
[04:18] <Tyler09> kisuke: I read about aMsn
[04:18] <Tyler09> kisuke: and Kmess
[04:18] <Tyler09> kisuke: kmess is for kde though :(((
[04:18] <Munchkinguy> Tyler09, kisuke: amsn claims to have webcam support
[04:19] <Tyler09> Munchkinguy: I haven't been able to install aMsn cause I don't understand how to install it
[04:19] <leandrodeassis> _FadeOut: echo deb http://example.repository.to.add karmic main bla bla >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:19] <Tyler09> Do I have to compile it like tarballs?
[04:19] <leandrodeassis> _FadeOut: then repeat to add the other line
[04:19] <kisuke> Tyler09: off of the top of my head i want to say msn messanger on wine
[04:19] <Tyler09> kisuke: well this is an obvious solution for any windows app on linux but an alternative would be best as I don't feel like buying Wine
[04:20] <Billiard> Munchkinguy: idk looks like it should work
[04:20] <jiohdi> are there some key programs that can be removed to make the system run faster?
[04:20] <kisuke> tyler09 : where did you hear you buy wine?
[04:20] <Tyler09> kisuke: look at this: http://kmess.org/
[04:20] <Tyler09> kisuke: I've read several places that Wine isn't free?
[04:20] <Billiard> lol
[04:21] <Billiard> Tyler09: wine is free
[04:21] <Tyler09> Billiard: do I have to run it on a seperate partition?
[04:21] <Billiard> Tyler09: no
[04:21] <kisuke> Tyler09: wine is in the repos
[04:21] <Tyler09> Billiard: Like a package installation?
[04:21] <Billiard> yes
[04:21] <jiohdi> Tyler09: it creates a fake windows partition inside your home directory under .wine
[04:22] <Misantropo> TODO by <DATE> <ITEM>
[04:22] <Tyler09> oh ok
[04:22] <jiohdi> complete with fake c:
[04:22] <Tyler09> Sooo yeah I had some other issues unrelated to Linux
[04:22] <_FadeOut> leandrodeassis: thanks!
[04:22] <Tyler09> are we all just familiar with Linux here? Cause while I'm here I figure I mine as well ask about some windows installation issues I've been having
[04:22] <kisuke> tyler09: i havent tryed MSN under wine but let me check the appDB real quick
[04:23] <jiohdi> Tyler09: there are programs called portable apps, designed to work straight from a thumb drive, which work very well under wine
[04:24] <Tyler09> jiohdi: I'm somewhat familiar with those, like the BartPE environment?
[04:24] <jiohdi> Tyler09: not sure about that one, but there is OperaUSB and firefox and a host of others which work very well under wine
[04:24] <kisuke> Tyler09: look here: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=11389
[04:25] <CastleFox> Hello
[04:25] <Tyler09> kisuke: It appears that the functions I'm wanting don't work without crashing the application
[04:25] <Tyler09> kisuke: or is that just one persons experience with the application?
[04:26] <jrjackso> hey,i just installed ubuntu on a medion 95081 (mim2050) laptop. The res won't go higher than 1024x768, likely due to drivers.. any suggestions on the best way to figure out how to approach this problem? I can't even seem to find specs on the gfx card in this thing
[04:26] <Munchkinguy> Billiard: I got it to work with gconf-editor, no script though. Thanks for the help with xsendkeys!
[04:27] <kisuke> tyler09: several, should be settings you need to get it to work, 2 or 3 of them are gold, so works with a little tweaking
[04:27] <Tyler09> kisuke: gold?
[04:27] <bastid_raZor> jrjackso: lspci | grep VGA  ..type that in a terminal it will tell you the card
[04:27] <Tyler09> kisuke: I'm unfamiliar with the review system of the website you referenced, and Wine as well.
[04:27] <kisuke> Tyler09: sorry getting tabs switch >_>
[04:28] <Munchkinguy> kisuke: amsn is in the ubuntu universe repository. Maybe help him try that one first.
[04:28] <Tyler09> kisuke: Lol it's ok =]
[04:28] <CastleFox> I had tired to set it up as a bootable ubuntu drive BUT I stopped the process because that program was paused for a very long time.  and now my jump drive says there is only 801mb on the drive even after I formatted it.  It is supposed to be 4gb.  I dont know what you else to do.
[04:28] <kisuke> Munchkinguy: prolly, i just started helping and kept going
[04:29] <jrjackso> bastid: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics
[04:29] <_JacK_> how to reboot process within program after process exits?
[04:29] <Tyler09> kisuke: if I can get away with it I want to install aMSN but I unfamiliar with the installation directives they give in the installation section. The installers are for Tcl/Tk 8.4 and 8.5 I don't know what this means? Maybe you could give some insight?
[04:29] <Tyler09> kisuke: http://www.amsn-project.net/linux-downloads.php
[04:30] <jrjackso> bastid: (thank you).. that's got to be a common gfx chip maybe a hardware acceld driver for it floating around?
[04:30] <kisuke> tyler09: goto system>software souces
[04:30] <jrjackso> flash video was even slow to the point that it couldn't play it smooth and netbooks can handle that :P
[04:30] <Tyler09> kisuke: Done
[04:30] <kisuke> tryler09: make sure univere is checked
[04:31] <Tyler09> kisuke: it is
[04:33] <kisuke> then open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install amsn"
[04:34] <pantsd_> I went to go dist-upgrade, but update-manager is broker in the beta. Anyone else have this issue?
[04:34] <kisuke> tyler09: open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install amsn" without the quotes then it will install
[04:34] <Tyler09> kisuke: Sweet I had no idea it was packaged already
[04:34] <johntron> who here uses virtualization on their ubuntu server?
[04:34] <Tyler09> =]
[04:34]  * cwillu_clone puts up his hand
[04:34] <bastid_raZor> pantsd_: /join #ubuntu+1  for karmic issues
[04:35] <Billiard> johntron: whats the prob?
[04:35] <johntron> cwillu_clone: do you use kvm or something else?
[04:35] <kunji> Hey everyone, I recently installed lxde onto an old toshiba running ubuntu 9.04 that was previously using gnome.  everything is working except the wireless, could someone help me with that, I don't know anything about troubleshooting a wireless connection.
[04:35] <kisuke> tyler09: i've done it to xD
[04:35] <johntron> Billiard: no problem, just trying to decide what to do
[04:35] <cwillu_clone> johntron, kvm and qemu on different machines
[04:35] <Tyler09> kisuke: =] Thank you for the help.
[04:35] <_JacK_> is there any easy way to self boot process?
[04:35] <johntron> cwillu_clone: so you have a xeon or an opteron?
[04:35] <kisuke> Tyler09: np
[04:36] <cwillu_clone> johntron, also have used virtualbox for one instance where I needed a working usb passthrough and didn't have the patience to figure it out
[04:36] <cwillu_clone> Johnm_, opteronm, iirc
[04:36] <Tyler09> kisuke: do you know windows then? I have some other pressing issues I needed assistance with and I wager I mine as well ask about them here while I'm here.
[04:36] <Owners> Perhaps someone can help me get this box online? The card is recognized but not obtaining a real ip from cable modem.
[04:36] <johntron> cwillu_clone: ok. well i don't have one of those, and i don't think i'm going to fork out the cash for one, but i'm curious. how hard was it to setup?
[04:37] <secret901> I have a black screen for my desktop background.  Anyone know how to fix it?
[04:37] <Billiard> secret901: set the background?
[04:37] <cwillu_clone> johntron, pretty simple;  libvirt + virt-manager makes it quite simple
[04:37] <Owners> I've tried three nics now.
[04:37] <secret901> Billiard: that doesn't work
[04:37] <Billiard> Owners: set up for dhcp?
[04:37] <Tyler09> kisuke: This is even better than the regular msn :D
[04:38] <kisuke> tyler09: /msg me and i'll try and help as well try #widows usually busy in there
[04:38] <kisuke> Tyler09: xD isint that the way it usually works?
[04:38] <Owners> Indeed it is
[04:38] <johntron> cwillu_clone: ok thanks. do you know if there is any way to run kvm on a processor that doesn't support virtualization (i guess you'd call it emulation)? intel xeon/itanium and amd opterons seem to be the only ones with hardware support
[04:38] <Owners> Dhcp client id is blank however
[04:39] <cristian> Hi
[04:39] <cwillu_clone> johntron, you'd use qemu or something equivilent
[04:39] <ZykoticK9> johntron, kvm requires the virt support in CPU, qemu (which kvm is sorta based off of) does not.
[04:39] <johntron> cwillu_clone: i think that's what the OLPC folks use
[04:39] <cwillu_clone> johntron, or in some cases you could use something like user-mode linux as a pseudo virtualization
[04:39] <johntron> cwillu_clone: hmm
[04:40] <johntron> cwillu_clone: ok, thanks a lot!
[04:40] <jon5000> hello, anyone familiar with citrix xenapp receiver?
[04:40] <johntron> i've got this old crusty athlon 3500 i'm using as a media server + bittorrent and to host a couple websites, and I need a way to load balance. ubuntu doesn't seem to have much there, but i'm pretty good at openbsd's PF
[04:41] <_JacK_>  how to self boot process after process exit abnormaly?
[04:41] <johntron> so i'm thinking of running a vm of openbsd/freebsd
[04:41] <Owners> Anyone have any ideas?
[04:41] <cwillu_clone> johntron, take a look at cgroups
[04:42] <cwillu_clone> johntron, actually, you're looking at networking load-balancing, nvm :p
[04:42] <johntron> :p
[04:42] <Billiard> Owners: does the card work on a different network, using either dynamic or static ip?
[04:42] <fluxy> Hello, is it me or is there no release candidate available for xubuntu karmic yet?
[04:42] <Billiard> Owners: same machine
[04:42] <cwillu_clone> johntron, I know there's a usermode app that can do it, and I think you could also do it with firewall rules, it's just a not a problem I've had to try hard to deal with
[04:42] <cwillu_clone> jon5000, just ask the question, don't ask to ask
[04:43] <jwfoxjr> is there any advantage to upgrading to the karmic beta through update manager vs. installing fresh?
[04:43] <cristian> Hi, I've a question regarding dual booting with windows XP. My XP installation is on primary drive as well as Grub, the problem is that when I try to boot windows the loader hangs and I've to reboot. I've tried using SuperGrub, but this restores windows loader and erase grub. Does anyone have any idea on what to do?
[04:43] <Owners> Haven't tried a different network. 1 out of 4 cards worked but that went to a customer.
[04:44] <johntron> cwillu_clone: yeah, the ufw is just a wrapper for iptables. ufw doesn't do anything as far as load balancing. it can be done in iptables, but it's really really gross
[04:44] <jon5000> I installed citrix xenapp 11 and all the req'd libraries etc.  program works, except the option to save a new connection is grayed out.  not sure if i installed wrong or what (i installed before getting the reqd library)
[04:44] <Owners> I don't have the resources to try the box on another network.
[04:44] <cwillu_clone> johntron, it'll put hair on your chest :p
[04:44] <DaZ> cristian: hangs? :f
[04:44] <mic0> \o
[04:45] <qcjn> hi,i 'd need a little help with mount.cifs...i can see an external HD on the other computer, but i can't get to connect it via mount.cifs ?
[04:45] <Billiard> Owners: two cards maybe, see if you can talk to yourself?
[04:45] <johntron> cwillu_clone: hah, that's for sure. i don't need anymore of that
[04:45] <kiqyou_vf> how do i find out what driver letter my thumb drive is?
[04:45] <qcjn> I see it via nautilus, samba,
[04:45] <Jordan_U> cristian: Does windows boot when you use ntldr directly rather than grub?
[04:46] <Billiard> kiqyou_vf: drive letters are only in windows
[04:46] <Jordan_U> cristian: If not, and windows is not on the first partition, you may need to use th map command in grub to trick it into thinking that it is on the first partition
[04:46] <kiqyou_vf> Billiard: i'm trying to decipher this: '# zcat eeepc_usb-v0.9.img.gz > /dev/sdX'
[04:46] <Owners> Cant without a network connection
[04:47] <Owners> Otherwise id be doing it over loopback
[04:47] <mehedi> i use dual boot. windows xp and ubuntu. can i use widows xp's net connection in ubuntu?
[04:47] <Owners> Ipv6 shows the address as a mac address so it looks ipv4 is 0.0.0.0
[04:47] <joustin> mehedi, no
[04:47] <cwillu_clone> kiqyou_vf, "uncompress the file and pipe the contents to the device /dev/sdX"
[04:47] <DaZ> kiqyou_vf: it's usually the last one :f
[04:48] <Billiard> kiqyou_vf: if you have given your thumb drive a label you can use "ls -l /dev/disk/by-label" to see which device it is
[04:48] <joustin> you should be able to use the same connection if it is ethernet or dial up
[04:48] <kiqyou_vf> i'm not sure i've given it a label. not intentionally atleast
[04:48] <cwillu_clone> mehedi, you can connect both machines, but it'll be a "different" connection;  I think you're confused about what that means, although I'm not sure what you're confused about exactly
[04:49] <cwillu_clone> er, both operating systems
[04:49] <Billiard> kiqyou_vf: then just remove the thumb drive and see which /dev/sdX appears when u plug it in
[04:52] <kisuke> netsplit!
[04:52] <DaZ> srsly? :f
[04:52] <Owners> Anyone have any ideas of things I can try to get this working?
[04:52] <lucas_> does any one know how to make konqueror work with flash??
[04:52] <DaZ> lucas_: install flash?
[04:52] <kisuke> look like had  a guy i was messiging and he spontainsly went offline
[04:53] <kisuke> daz: and same in whinhq as well
[04:53] <lucas_> DaZ: i have
[04:53] <DaZ> lucas_: it works ootb
[04:53] <lucas_> DaZ: i can play videos on youtube, BUT, can see flash animations on web pages...
[04:53] <durt> lucas_, I believe it's a matter of intalling the plugin from the repo and then pointing konqueror to it's location
[04:54] <lucas_> cant
[04:54] <Billiard> Owners: why cant you try 2 cards in the same machine connected to eachother to see if they function correctly?
[04:54] <Owners> The cards work I've tested them.
[04:54] <ajhtiredwolf> lucas_, get the latest  plugin from the flash website, then place the .so file in the plugin folder
[04:54] <lucas_> well, i can see youtube videos and other pages videos but cant see flash animations of webs
[04:54] <snap-l> Having trouble logging into postgresql after upgrading to Karmic. I know there's a debconf message that needs to be followed, but I didn't get all of the info. Is there a way to get that info after the fact?
[04:55] <Billiard> Owners: i mean to see if they work in ubuntu, to see if it is a problem with ubuntu and the cards or the cards and the modem or what
[04:55] <lucas_> i have done all that
[04:55] <bazhang> lucas_, what version of ubuntu
[04:55] <lucas_> karmic koala
[04:55] <Jordan_U> snap-l: #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[04:55] <ajhtiredwolf> lucas_, have you tried the flash alternative plugins?
[04:55] <snap-l> Jordan_U: tx
[04:55] <qcjn> ok, got it
[04:55] <bazhang> lucas_, karmic support in #ubuntu+1 not here
[04:55] <Owners> 3com should function correctly in 9.04
[04:55] <mehedi> after mistakenly erasing network manager tool bar from the panel i can not add it the again.what can i do?
[04:55] <Owners> I have a feeling it's a configuration issue
[04:55] <lucas_> its not about what version of ubuntu im in, its just a question about konqueror and flash plugin
[04:56] <Owners> However im no nix expert
[04:56] <cwillu_clone> mehedi, it's the "notification area", just right-click on the panel and re-add it
[04:56] <bazhang> lucas_, this is for jauntu and other versions still in use; #ubuntu+1 for questions about karmic
[04:56] <ajhtiredwolf> lucas_, not necessarily out dated version might not have been patched
[04:56] <cwillu_clone> mehedi, or if it's really just the icon missing, alt-f2 -> "nm-applet"
[04:57] <mehedi> but i can not find it in ubuntu 8.04
[04:57] <lucas_> its the most up to date version of konqueror and flash
[04:57] <Bluey> how do I kill the sounds in pidgin?  going into tools/mute sounds and checking that doesn't work...
[04:57] <cwillu_clone> lucas_, i.e., not the version that's in jaunty
[04:58] <lucas_> never mind, ill keep lookin on google
[04:58] <DaZ> lucas_: 32 or 64? :f
[04:58] <lucas_> 32
[04:58] <m0r0n> Can anyone help me get the spell check in open office writer to work
[04:58] <DaZ> lucas_: you can always switch to arora
[04:58] <richardcavell> join #ircopoly
[04:58] <DaZ> or khtml to webkit
[04:58] <RAWRjar> Hello everyone! I'm on a brand-spanking-new install of Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop 32-bit (running in VirtualBox with a Windows7 64-bit host), and I cannot install Subversion (SVN). I can access the internet just fine as far as google.com and searching, but most websites I cannot access. It looks like DNS isn't working properly, any ideas?
[04:58] <richardcavell> woops mistell
[04:59] <lucas_> DaZ: its not good at all...
[04:59] <Owners> I have half the mind to switch back to m$ Internet connectivity is necessary
[04:59] <ajhtiredwolf> RAWRjar, with that type of problem you might have better luck in the windows host forum of virtualbox
[04:59] <DaZ> lucas_:  Version        : 10.0.32.18?
[05:00] <RAWRjar> dang. kk. any simple DNS tricks available? as I mentioned, have internet - I can google search and it works, just not other websites.
[05:00] <mehedi> now i m using ubuntu using virtual box in windows xp. but i can not use the whole screen of my monitor to run ubuntu.
[05:01] <RAWRjar> @mehedi - install guest additions (host + h)
[05:01] <aperson> is there a replacement for the gnome alt+f2 launch application dialog for someone who uses gnome without any panels?
[05:01] <lucas_> DaZ: yeah
[05:01] <DaZ> lucas_: any console output? ;f
[05:02] <Billiard> RAWR: try manually setting up a dns server?
[05:02] <ajhtiredwolf>  t
[05:03] <mehedi> now i m using ubuntu using virtual box in windows xp.do i need any anti virus for windows xp if i use net only in ubuntu?
[05:03] <DaZ> mehedi: antivirus!=firewall
[05:03] <DaZ> so yes, you need ;f
[05:04] <m3onh0x84_> mehedi: You installed ubuntu on virtualbox in win xp ?
[05:04] <Owners> Is there another room where people help?
[05:04] <RAWRjar> @Billard: um, isn't that a crazy-complicated solution for DNS queries not working in a VM?
[05:04] <joustin> Too bad you can't buy a voodoo globe so that you could make the earth spin real fast and freak everybody out. -Jack Handy
[05:04] <mehedi> ya
[05:04] <DaZ> Owners: nope
[05:04] <IdleOne> !ot | joustin jack handy was never funny
[05:04] <DaZ> everywhere else they just laugh >:
[05:05] <Owners> Ugh so im pretty much stuck with a box that doesn't connect
[05:05] <Owners> Or windows... Sigh
[05:06] <durt> Owners, can you restate your problem in full detail.
[05:06] <Billiard> RAWRjar: what?
[05:06] <Owners> This box refuses to attain an ip on 3 of 4 cards
[05:06] <RAWRjar> @Billard: sorry, I have no idea how to set up a DNS server
[05:07] <Owners> The one card that worked is in a customers computer now.
[05:07] <RAWRjar> and I'd think I don't need to run my own - the Windows guest gets it fine
[05:07] <Billiard> RAWR no dont run your own
[05:07] <RAWRjar> k
[05:07] <durt> Owners, how many cards in the system right now?
[05:07] <RAWRjar> then I misinterpreted you
[05:07] <Billiard> RAWRjar: i mean enter in the dns server ip manually
[05:07] <Owners> 1
[05:07] <RAWRjar> ic
[05:08] <cwillu_clone> "manually setting a dns server" instead of "manually setting up a dns server" :p
[05:08] <RAWRjar> aaaaah lol
[05:08] <durt> Owners, does it show in ifconfig?
[05:08] <RAWRjar> where can I set that?
[05:08] <Owners> I tried a linksys and a netgear from old pcs and now I have a 3com I just bought
[05:08] <Owners> It does but without an ip
[05:08] <Owners> Inet address area is not there and ipv6 is gibberish
[05:09] <kermit> my cpu keeps getting stuck at it's lowest speed on a dell laptop, even hibernate doesnt reset it, i have to reboot
[05:09] <durt> Owners, and dhcp has failed?
[05:09] <Owners> Kermit: disable the cpu saver in bios
[05:09] <Billiard> RAWRjar: idk i dont use a gui you probably can right click the connection status icon and change the settings
[05:09] <yaris123456789> hi folks i am getting "Invalid command 'RewriteEngine', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration" , i ran a2enmod rewrite, and it says mod is already enabled....
[05:09] <Owners> It appears to be so. It's directly connected to the modem
[05:09] <ubuntu_giant> What's the deal with gnome?  With the last update my window paint really slowly! :0
[05:10] <kermit> Owners: i havent seen that option
[05:10] <Owners> Kermit: perhaps in the power management settings
[05:10] <__Techie__> tang
[05:11] <bmwerks> i dont have a gui for compiz because i have a onboard vidcard how can i turn off the redirect on fullscreen from the terminal?
[05:11] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[05:11] <bastid_raZor> kermit: install cpufrequtils and then cpufreq-info  .. what does it tell you?
[05:11] <durt> Owners, it could be the modem remembers the MAC of the previous card and won't lease another IP address thinking you're trying to connect two systems at the same time, or the cable could be bad.
[05:11] <ajhtiredwolf> bmwerks, having onboard video doesn't mean you shouldn't have a gui
[05:12] <ben> Howdy all, anybody have time for a newbie's question?
[05:12] <bazhang> ben, please ask the channel
[05:13] <Owners> I've tried restarting the modem and it does on occassion have issues on an xp box but resolves itself
[05:13] <ShapeShifter499> I am running off a live cd trying to upload a bunch of files to a online file system so I don't loose them but I got a question if I needed a flash player, where  does it install to when I'm in live cd? the ram? or what?
[05:13] <Owners> Whereas the ubuntu box never connects
[05:13] <durt> Owners, you could capture the dhcp request and response with wireshark to see what is happening (if you can get access some other way).
[05:13] <ajhtiredwolf> ShapeShifter499, it won't replace anything in your existing installation it will be wiped when you reboot
[05:14] <Owners> I've seen issues on the other box maybe 1 out of 30 starts
[05:14] <Guest58951> I'm trying to increase my swap partition's size because my system is running choppily, but don't have a clue where to start. Anybody know what I need to do?
[05:14] <^mNotIntelligent> hi all
[05:14] <^mNotIntelligent> I'm trying to add a start up script this way:
[05:14] <kermit> bastid_raZor: a lot, what am i looking for?
[05:14] <ShapeShifter499> ajhtiredwolf: I know I but before I restart where do the files of the flash player go?
[05:14] <KentukyNitemare> If anybody could pm me that'd help a lot. I have a hard time keeping up with the jumble.
[05:15] <^mNotIntelligent> I added a .bash_login in ~/ and then add "source ~/.bash_login" in ~/.bashrc
[05:15] <ShapeShifter499> ajhtiredwolf: the ram?
[05:15] <Owners> I could get the packages on the xp box but switching back and forth has been diving me nuts
[05:15] <bastid_raZor> kermit: governor.. what is it set to?
[05:16] <^mNotIntelligent> and in bash_login this is giving me errors: sleep(5) conky&   , this error message: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[05:16] <ajhtiredwolf> ShapeShifter499, no I don't think so, but im not really sure
[05:16] <durt> Owners, so this card works in XP?
[05:16] <Owners> No thats onboard
[05:16] <kermit> bastid_raZor: performance
[05:17] <durt> Owners, so there's two NICs
[05:17] <Owners> Onboard on a win7 box didn't work either. Out of 3 machines and 5 cards only 2 work
[05:17] <bastid_raZor> kermit: can you pastebin the output?
[05:17] <ShapeShifter499> anyone know what happens when you install something before a restart of a live cd system, where do the installed files go?
[05:18] <ShapeShifter499> the ram for temp. or what?
[05:18] <kermit> bastid_raZor: http://pastebin.com/m674339ea
[05:18] <adrin_jalali> hi there, how can I switch my bluetooth state using # hid2hci -r hci -v 1d6b -p 0002 -m dell?
[05:18] <Owners> I have tried 4 nics in the nix box. Only one works. I have a xp box with onboard which works. And I built a win7 box in which 1 of 3 nics worked and the onboard didn't.
[05:19] <adrin_jalali> I get this error: Attempting to switch device 1d6b:0002 to HCI mode failed (Broken pipe)
[05:19] <Owners> So two seperate mac addresses have worked without issue.
[05:19] <kunji> Nevermind guys, problem resolved.
[05:19] <Billiard> ShapeShifter499: ram
[05:20] <Owners> This one just constantly tells me it is disconnected after trying to connect
[05:20] <ShapeShifter499> ShapeShifter499
[05:20] <ShapeShifter499> opps
[05:20] <bastid_raZor> kermit: how are you determining that it is stuck at the lowest speed?
[05:20] <ajhtiredwolf> ShapeShifter499, it loads into the memmory, i just googled it
[05:20] <Owners> Wired network - you are now disconnected
[05:20] <ShapeShifter499> tnx
[05:20] <ShapeShifter499> all I needed to knwo
[05:21] <ShapeShifter499> *know
[05:21] <kermit> bastid_raZor: a dock applet thing and also benchmarks
[05:21] <ShapeShifter499> bye
[05:21] <ShapeShifter499> g2g
[05:21] <kermit> bastid_raZor: the dock applet says 800MHz
[05:21] <ShapeShifter499> bye
[05:21] <engineer_> hello there everyon
[05:22] <Brack101> Hi
[05:22] <engineer_> need help on grub having windows 7 and ubuntu installed...... anyone plz?
[05:22] <kermit> bastid_raZor: it always happens when it loaded... i think its some thermal throttling, except once it throttles it never unthrottles
[05:22] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, you need to be more specific
[05:22] <danni__> help guys how do i reset my login password and administrative password on ubuntu. i tried user groups but it sais too short even tho i know when u do a fresh install it should let u do short passwords anyway.
[05:22] <engineer_> ok
[05:22] <bazhang> engineer_, dual booting win7 and jaunty or karmic
[05:23] <engineer_> i have installed windows 7 and ubuntu, and grub shows both in its menu., but still windows7 doesnt load
[05:23] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, what happens when you try and boot windows 7?
[05:23] <Brack101> Compiz doesn't work and I keep getting this in messages "NVRM: API mismatch: the client has the version 180.51, but this kernel module has the version 180.44.  Please make sure that this kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version."
[05:23] <Billiard> danni__: what do you mean you tried "user groups" the passwd command allows you to change users passwords
[05:23] <engineer_> on pressing enter on windows 7 option system simply restarts with nothing
[05:24] <engineer_> no error messges is displayed
[05:24] <danni__> billiard can you tell me how to use it
[05:24] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, give me a pastebin of fdisk -l and your /etc/fstab
[05:24] <engineer_> ok .
[05:24] <Billiard> danni__: passwd username
[05:24] <Shihan> hi guys... im a little stuck, i got a machine with ubuntu 9.04 on it, running an amd cpu however the cpu is running at its lowest clock speed all the time... any suggestions?
[05:24] <bastid_raZor> kermit: the only idea i had was cpufreq wasn't set correctly.
[05:24] <root> hello
[05:24] <engineer_> here it goes for fdisk -l
[05:25] <engineer_>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[05:25] <engineer_> /dev/sda1   *           1          13      102400    7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:25] <engineer_> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
[05:25] <engineer_> /dev/sda2              13       12749   102297600    7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:25] <engineer_> /dev/sda3           12749       25497   102400000    7  HPFS/NTFS
[05:25] <FloodBot3> engineer_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:25] <engineer_> /dev/sda4           25498       38913   107764020    5  Extended
[05:25] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, don't paste things in here, use pastebin
[05:25] <engineer_> ok sorry. i didnt new this
[05:25] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, www.pastebin.ca
[05:25] <engineer_> i am new to IRC
[05:25] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, that's fine
[05:26] <danni__> it tells me i have to choose a longer password on passwd command line and user groups . i only need a 5 character password/ how? anyone?
[05:27] <ajhtiredwolf> danni__, if it says you need a longer password, just use a longer password
[05:27] <Billiard> danni__: yeah just use a longer password lmao
[05:29] <danni__> lobger password? howcome i can setyup a short password when i first setup my instalation by just clicking ok/continue anyway? is there a way to over ride it
[05:29] <cfedde> danni__: just do it twice
[05:29] <jiohdi> when you first set up you can use a smaller passwd, but afterwards it will not allow it
[05:29] <danni__> is there any other way to set up a short password besides a fresh install?
[05:30] <Billiard> danni__: did you try the shorter password, it might just be a warning
[05:30] <ajhtiredwolf> danni__, there is a very good reason why it won't let you use a short password
[05:30] <engineer_> http://pastebin.ca/1639372
[05:31] <engineer_> here is the fdisk -l
[05:31] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf, u there
[05:31] <engineer_> ?
[05:32] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, yes
[05:32] <engineer_> so i posted fdisk -l
[05:32] <engineer_> thanks
[05:32] <engineer_> now what more
[05:32] <engineer_> ?
[05:32] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, /etc/fstab
[05:33] <engineer_> ok wait.. how to do /etc/fstab
[05:33] <engineer_> ?
[05:34] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[05:34] <engineer_> ok wait. i am posting it
[05:34] <boysen> any help i want to install yahoo on ubuntu
[05:34] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, put that in pastebin then do the same with /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:34] <bazhang> boysen, use pidgin ?
[05:34] <engineer_> http://pastebin.ca/1639380
[05:34] <engineer_> ok
[05:34] <engineer_> check http://pastebin.ca/1639380
[05:35] <boysen> i need to install yahoo on ubuntu :P any help :P
[05:35] <ae86-drifter> boysen: use a linux client
[05:35] <engineer_> here its for menu.lst
[05:35] <engineer_> http://pastebin.ca/1639383
[05:35] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf, thanks for considering
[05:36] <boysen> how come i cannnot use the regular yahoo on ubuntu :P
[05:36] <ae86-drifter> boysen: as bazhang said, use pidgin
[05:36] <boysen> ic :P
[05:36] <bazhang> boysen, it is many many years old
[05:36] <Owners> boysen: Even if you could it would be much more effort than it's worth.
[05:36] <boysen> can i  that cam in pidgin?
[05:37] <ae86-drifter> boysen: if you really want the original Y! you will need to install wine first and make sure you have all the dll dependencies etc
[05:37] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf u checkd the pastebin?
[05:37] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, how big is your windows 7 install?
[05:37] <boysen> what dll i need ?
[05:37] <ae86-drifter> boysen: goto winehq.org and it may tell u more info there
[05:37] <engineer_> ok
[05:38] <jstrake> I'm having a hard disk space issue.  Have 25G allocated on the partition.  Show 1.3G free, but only several hundred Mb available.  Disk Usage Analyzer only shows 7.7G on the filesystem.  So what is eating up my other 14G?  Have tried all conventional cleanup strategies (deborphan, apt-get clean/autoclean, etc.)
[05:38] <ubuntu_giant> Anybody have trouble with gnome after the latest update?  Come on, 1331 people on here, at least one other person has got to have the problem. :)
[05:38] <ae86-drifter> ubuntu_giant: must be a user error
[05:38] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf , its 4.5 gb
[05:39] <Jordan_U> jstrake: Can you pastebin the output of "df -h" ?
[05:39] <bazhang> ubuntu_giant, which version of ubuntu
[05:39] <ubuntu_giant> Ubuntu 9.04.
[05:39] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, you only partitioned 4.5 gigs for windows 7?
[05:39] <Owners> boysen: Try gyachi
[05:39] <MrSchmo> what name is the mic listed on volume control? cant seem to find it in preference
[05:39] <ubuntu_giant> Basically, the window repaints really slowly.
[05:39] <ubuntu_giant> Compiz doesn't work.
[05:39] <engineer_> no no. i have reserved 100gb for it
[05:39] <engineer_> 4.5 is space it took
[05:39] <ubuntu_giant> It used to work beautifully.
[05:39] <jstrake> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[05:39] <jstrake> /dev/sda5              23G   22G  137M 100% /
[05:39] <jstrake> tmpfs                 489M     0  489M   0% /lib/init/rw
[05:39] <jstrake> varrun                489M  224K  489M   1% /var/run
[05:39] <jstrake> varlock               489M     0  489M   0% /var/lock
[05:39] <jstrake> udev                  489M  156K  489M   1% /dev
[05:39] <FloodBot3> jstrake: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:39] <bazhang> ubuntu_giant, sounds like a video driver issue; which card and driver are you using
[05:39] <ae86-drifter> ubuntu_giant, have you got gfx drivers
[05:40] <jstrake> sorry, and thanks.
[05:40] <ubuntu_giant> I'm using ATI Radeon.
[05:40] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf , also there is 100mb another drive , possble contanining boot files for windows7.
[05:40] <ubuntu_giant> ae86-drifter: Yes.  I installed the drivers from the ATI site.
[05:40] <webbb82> the past few updates i did it says it wants todo a partial upgrade  , does this mean i messed somethin up
[05:40] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf i have allocated 100gb for windows7
[05:40] <jph_> just a quick question if i create the file 'robots.txt' and enter in on two separate lines enter in the text 'User-agent: *' and 'Disallow: /'  should that keep all bots and crawlers that chose to obey my request out of my site?
[05:40] <engineer_> u got any point?
[05:40] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, are you on a differnet machine?
[05:41] <bazhang> engineer_, when you are in grub, does it refer to the 100MB portion as windows bootloader and see nothing else?
[05:41] <ae86-drifter> ubuntu_giant, goto system>admin>hardware drivers and tell me what it says
[05:41] <ubuntu_giant> jstrake: If you have vista on the other partition, it might be using that 14G as a backup drive.
[05:41] <n8tuser> jph_-> that is not an ubuntu issue, perhaps you can ask people in #apache ?
[05:41] <happihippo> does robots.txt work on spam bots
[05:41] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf, no i am on same machine.
[05:42] <ubuntu_giant> ae86-drifter: I don't have "system > administrator > hardware drivers"  What's the executable?
[05:42] <engineer_> bazhang, it shows windows in boot loader, doesnt say anything about 100mb
[05:42] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, do this sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst menu.lst.old
[05:42] <ubuntu_giant> ae86-drifter: Ah, sorry, overlooked. :P
[05:42] <ae86-drifter> jockey-gtk
[05:42] <ubuntu_giant> Oh! It's not activated! :P
[05:43] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf, let me try.
[05:43] <ae86-drifter> ubuntu_giant, theres your problem
[05:43] <bazhang> engineer_, couple of questions: which was installed first, what version of ubuntu and are they fresh installs respectively or upgrades from prior versions
[05:43] <ubuntu_giant> Sorry about that ae86-drifter.  I just hate it if the problem is staring at me right in the face. :(
[05:43] <ae86-drifter> lol
[05:43] <ajhtiredwolf> bazhang, you can tell by the pastebins that windows 7 was installed first
[05:43] <engineer_> but i have checked all this, even reintalled windwos 7 two times, it works, but when reinstalled grub ,windows 7 doesnt load, however appears in grub
[05:44] <ae86-drifter> windows 7 boots fine for me
[05:44] <jstrake> ubuntu_giant: nope, XP.
[05:44] <ae86-drifter> in a vm
[05:44] <jstrake> Jordan_U: what do you think?
[05:44] <webbb82> in order todo the partial upgrade it wants to remove konquer
[05:44] <engineer_> bazhang, windows7 installed first, ubuntu is 9.04,  and they all are fresh installs,
[05:44] <daevski> How can I switch from Compiz to metacity? is it something I can do on the fly as a workaround for a bug?
[05:45] <bazhang> daevski, alt f2 metacity --replace
[05:45] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, hang on one moment
[05:45] <ubuntu_giant> jstrake: Possibly backups like I said, but you might have also partitioned your disk incorrectly.
[05:45] <KurtKraut> For some reason, on Jaunty the notify-send command is only showing messages that are set to --urgency=critical. Is there something wrong?
[05:45] <magikid> daevski: install compiz-fusion-icon and switch it through that
[05:45] <daevski> bazhang: thanks! and then compiz --replace to get back?
[05:45] <engineer_> i am really sad for all this, however my core2duo system had ubuntu and windows vista, working perfectly, but now on core2duad i am unable to have both :(
[05:45] <bazhang> daevski, or listen to magikid
[05:45] <jstrake> What are possible partition mistakes?
[05:45] <daevski> magikid: also a good suggestion, thanks you!
[05:46] <engineer_> i really appreciate your consideration and help.
[05:46] <Jordan_U> engineer_: What is the problem?
[05:46] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, its not because of the processor, just one sec
[05:46] <engineer_> jordan_u,  the problem is that windows7 appears in grub but doesnt loads
[05:46] <daevski> bazhang, magiki: Thank you both for input :)
[05:46] <engineer_> system restarts
[05:46] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, are you able to get on another machine via irc?
[05:46] <jstrake> ubuntu_giant: does XP backup into restricted partitions as well?
[05:47] <ae86-drifter> yes
[05:47] <Jordan_U> engineer_: Do you get an error when you try to load it?
[05:47] <accid> hen installing ubuntu, it asks for a mount point, what do i select? options are  /dos /windows
[05:47] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, i mean get on irc via another machine*
[05:47] <accid> when*
[05:47] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf, i dont know. but i am using irc from ubuntu,
[05:47] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, you are going to need to reboot
[05:47] <engineer_> oh ok.
[05:47] <accid> also is it typical to use fat 32 file system ?
[05:47] <engineer_> but its ok if its restarts.
[05:48] <engineer_> i will be back again.
[05:48] <Lownin> Hello! I'm trying to set up ldap. I get to the part in https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html that says "sudo ldapadduser george example".  My console returns "You must have OpenLDAP client commands installed before running these scripts".  I can run OpenLDAP client commands I believe.  What is wrong? I've been working on this all day but I'm not that advanced of a user yet.
[05:48] <engineer_> tell me what to do. maybe i have tried it before
[05:48] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, alright open up sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:48] <n8tuser> accid-> as minimum you need /, /swap and /home
[05:48] <engineer_> ok
[05:48] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf, ok i have done it
[05:48] <engineer_> now what
[05:48] <engineer_> ?
[05:49] <accid> n8tuser should i use fat 32
[05:49] <accid> ?
[05:49] <engineer_> also  i want to tell u that i have checked all in chainloader +1,+2 +3
[05:49] <Billiard> accid: no use ext3
[05:49] <bazhang> gksudo for graphical apps engineer_
[05:49] <progesterone> question: How can I make chm file to be opened by xchm?
[05:49] <accid> what mount point should i choose?
[05:49] <jstrake> To restate my initial query with updated info:
[05:49] <engineer_> bazhang, thanks
[05:50] <engineer_> what to do next
[05:50] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, change (hd0,0) to (hd0,1) in the 3rd to last line
[05:50] <bigfootbuilt> Baffled...I completely uninstalled Shockwave 9.0 plugin for Firefox and restarted the browser, and somehow I have upgraded to Shockwave Flash 10.0??? Can anyone explain this mystery? Thanks in advance
[05:50] <accid> Billiard ...
[05:50] <accid> what mount point should i choose?
[05:50] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf, ok wait
[05:50] <Billiard> accid: are you installing to fill the entire drive? no other os
[05:50] <n8tuser> accid nope, use ext3
[05:50] <accid> i have win 7 on one HDD na dim installing ubuntu on a partition
[05:50] <Billiard> accid: because maybe you should use the guided install
[05:50] <Billiard> accid: ok
[05:51] <accid> Billiard... what do i choose for beginning or end ?
[05:51] <Billiard> accid: do you already have your partitions set up
[05:51] <accid> yes
[05:52] <n8tuser> !who | accid
[05:52] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf, i have tried this from (hd0,0) to (hd,1,2 and 3) and same problem, at and after (hd0,4) it says thats the device is incorrect or something like that. i think its says this because 4, and 5 are ubuntu drives
[05:52] <accid> Billiard... what do i choose for beginning or end ?
[05:52] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, you did (hd0,1) ?
[05:52] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf, yes i did
[05:53] <Billiard> accid: what is the question it is asking you, it doesnt only say "beginning or end"
[05:53] <Lownin> Hello! I'm trying to set up ldap. I get to the part in https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html that says "sudo ldapadduser george example".  My console returns "You must have OpenLDAP client commands installed before running these scripts".  I can run OpenLDAP client commands I believe.  What is wrong? I've been working on this all day but I'm not that advanced of a user yet.  Am I asking in the right place?
[05:53] <preecher> i had to do a re-install of ubuntu 9.04 earlier and now when i am listening to online streaming audio my volume is not as loud as it used to be---could this be because i need different mpeg 1/2 codecs
[05:53] <jstrake> To restate my initial query with updated info: I'm having a hard disk space issue.  Have 25G allocated on the partition.  Show 1.3G free, but only several hundred Mb available.  Disk Usage Analyzer only shows 7.7G on the filesystem.  So what is eating up my other 14G?  Have tried all conventional cleanup strategies (deborphan, apt-get clean/autoclean, etc.)  df -h output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/299528/
[05:53] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf, do u think its due to grub is unalbe to find windows7 boot loader?
[05:53] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf, or windows7 boot loader is unable to get loaded?
[05:54] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf, totally i have installed windows7, three times, and ubuntu two times, and its hectic now
[05:54] <Brack101> I've tried reinstalling my Nvidia drivers 5 times and reinstalling libgl....I keep getting this and nothing 3d works. http://pastebin.com/m28281e1d   - tried all suggestions in forums, nothing.  Halp plz
[05:54] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf, i think i will have to throw away the QUAD, system
[05:54] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, well, what's strange is that it IS Set to the correct device
[05:54] <Brando753> anyone know how i can connect to my Hp p1006 Printer, i tried the Hplip, as well as that fojlis thing and it still dosent work
[05:54] <n8tuser> jstrake-> please paste results of  df -h and sudo fdisk -l
[05:54] <jstrake> If this is a partitioning error, I need to know what errors are possible.  I have not had any usage problems.  If it is XP messing with the partition, what's the resolution?
[05:54] <engineer_> IS?
[05:55] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, but you know, lets try another just for the hell of it
[05:55] <Lownin> Should I be asking my question about the Ubuntu Server OpenLDAP tutorial someplace else?
[05:55] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf, ok so anyother suggestion? as i have searched alot on internet,
[05:55] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, hang on, be patient
[05:56] <bp0> hello, im trying to update my jaunty to the rc, with `update-manager -d` ... is there a way i can tell it to use packs from the cd instead of downloading? im only getting 100k from the server and its going to take hours
[05:56] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf,  find all same thing, to reinstall grub and change from (hd0,0) to 1 and all that chainloader etc things
[05:56] <bazhang> bp0, #ubuntu+1 for karmic discussion
[05:56] <jstrake> sudo fdisk -l at http://paste.ubuntu.com/299532/
[05:56] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf, but none works
[05:56] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, what happened when you tried hd(1,1) ?
[05:56] <jstrake> dh -h at http://paste.ubuntu.com/299528/
[05:57] <engineer_> it says something like that the device is not present
[05:57] <seetherM> hello
[05:57] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf, you know what?
[05:57] <seetherM> I downloaded ubuntu and installed it but it didnt install drivers for my gforce 210 (nvidia) can anyone point me in the right direction?
[05:57] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, i have an idea, do you know how to go into your bios?
[05:57] <seetherM> so i can get all the cool effects etc
[05:57] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf, yes sure.
[05:57] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, are windows 7 and ubuntu install on different hard drives?
[05:58] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf, no . on one same hardisk
[05:58] <engineer_> tell me what to change in bios, i am used to it
[05:59] <jstrake> n8tuser: any thoughts?
[05:59] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, never mind that if its all on one hard drive
[05:59] <n8tuser> jstrake on what?
[06:00] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, if windows 7 was installed first it SHOULD be on hd0,0 and according to your fdisk sda1 SHOULD be the correct device
[06:00] <jstrake> on my query about my missing hard drive space.
[06:00] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf,  yes thats right, and i know this,
[06:00] <engineer_> the problem comes after this
[06:00] <engineer_> all is correct, still its not booting
[06:00] <seetherM> I downloaded ubuntu and installed it but it didnt install drivers for my gforce 210 (nvidia) can anyone point me in the right direction?
[06:00] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, so lets see here, lets narrow the problem down, did you just install both?
[06:00] <engineer_> yes,
[06:01] <ajhtiredwolf> after installing windows 7, it worked until you installed ubuntu correct?
[06:01] <engineer_> yes
[06:01] <engineer_> perfect
[06:01] <bazhang> seetherM, is there anything in hardware drivers (system administration hardware drivers)
[06:01] <ajhtiredwolf> do you have any other windows versions?
[06:01] <n8tuser> !who | jstrake
[06:01] <engineer_> yes, windows vista
[06:01] <ajhtiredwolf> how about xp?
[06:02] <seetherM> No
[06:02] <seetherM> bazhang
[06:02] <engineer_> well, i havent got it at the moment, however its funny that i checked it with windows vista, two days before and SAME PROBLEM
[06:02] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, yeah the way they boot, win7 and vista is similar
[06:02] <engineer_> means vista and windows7 same issue
[06:03] <engineer_> so it means that its some problem with windows7 boot loader?
[06:03] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, no i don't think so, hang on, let me think
[06:03] <bazhang> engineer_, I had a similar issue, ended up using gparted to partition beforehand (gparted livecd) and the problem went away
[06:03] <engineer_> or grub itsnt able to find the windows7 loader?
[06:03] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, no grub found it correctly
[06:04] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, heres a thought
[06:04] <engineer_> bazhang, i have installed gparted, so what to do with that?
[06:04] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, when you installed ubuntu, how did you tell it to install, did you tell it to install side by side?
[06:04] <engineer_> its just for partiioning
[06:04] <Lownin> Where can I get help with the Ubuntu OpenLDAP tutorial?
[06:04] <jstrake> ubottu: what does "!tab" mean (sorry, pseudo noob).
[06:04] <seetherM> Bazhang, do you know what i should do?
[06:04] <bazhang> engineer_, gparted livecd  was what I used
[06:04] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf, first time i tell to install in free space, thats was created my me for ubuntu,
[06:05] <Brando753> anyone know how i can connect to my Hp p1006 Printer, i tried the Hplip, as well as that fojlis thing and it still dosent work
[06:05] <bazhang> seetherM, this is an older card?
[06:05] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, and the second time?
[06:05] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf, 2nd time after formating all, and installing windows7 and then ubuntu, i told to install them by manual
[06:05] <bazhang> jstrake, type the first few letters of the person you wish to communicate with then hit the tab key to autocomplete their nickname, thus highlighting them
[06:06] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, here is what i would try. I would install iwndows 7, while installing windows 7 i would delete all partitions, then specify a partition for win7
[06:06] <engineer_> bazhang. kindly tell me how can be gparted usefull, tell me more
[06:06] <jstrake> bazhang: thanks.  Got it.
[06:06] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, then when i installed ubuntu I would specificy the swap and root partitions myself
[06:06] <seetherM> no
[06:06] <seetherM> its new
[06:06] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, that way you aren't telling ubuntu to touch any part of the win7 loader
[06:06] <seetherM> the whole system is brand new
[06:07] <seetherM> it came with vista but i deleted it and installed ubuntu
[06:07] <seetherM> i'm good at using ubuntu just not good at setting up stuff...
[06:07] <losha> jstrake: !tab means to type those 4 characters as the very first thing on the line to see ubottu's recorded message about the tab character.
[06:07] <engineer_> same i did 2nd time, in manual telling, i created a swap for ubuntu and deleted partition and recreated for ubutnu
[06:07] <engineer_> windows 7 loader is already in another drive, of 100mb
[06:07] <engineer_> and its like that
[06:08] <bazhang> engineer_, gparted live cd is a 100 mb download (iso) burn iso to cd, boot from it, then format the disk into ntfs and ext3 (jaunty) or ext4 karmic; reboot and replace disk with windows 7 installer disk; install to ntfs partition; repeat with ubuntu cd
[06:08] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, you created the swap and main partition from free space?
[06:08] <losha> jstrake: I just looked at your df. You have 22G in use on /dev/sda5
[06:08] <engineer_> and strange is that i cant access the files of windows7 boot drive from ubuntu????
[06:08] <engineer_> bazhang, thanks
[06:08] <losha> jstrake: do you want to find out where your space has gone?
[06:09] <jstrake> losha: I know.  But I can only actually find files for 7.7G and only a few hundred Mb now available.  Do you know any whys?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/299528/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/299532/
[06:09] <ajhtiredwolf> bazhang, it sounds like that is what he has already done
[06:09] <jstrake> losha: yes.
[06:09] <ajhtiredwolf> bazhang, ah well, he left
[06:09] <bazhang> engineer_, I had the same exact issue (not being to access the drive) before fixing with gparted method
[06:09] <engineer_> yes, i deleted the partitions that i had created for ubuntu, and then recreated them, reserving one drive for swap and other for ubuntu
[06:09] <engineer_> does it specify any problem?
[06:09] <bazhang> ajhtiredwolf, ah thanks
[06:09] <bazhang> oh wait
[06:09] <ajhtiredwolf> rofl
[06:09] <ajhtiredwolf> never mind
[06:10] <Guest36714> wa!  you talk about  ubuntu  linux
[06:10] <losha> jstrake: ok, open a terminal, and type sudo -i
[06:10] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, give what bazhang said a try, if that doesn't work i can explain to you have to use the windows 7 boot loader to manage win7 and ubuntuu instead of grub
[06:10] <jstrake> losha: okay.
[06:10] <losha> jstrake: now do cd /
[06:10] <jstrake> then what?
[06:11] <jstrake> losha: okay.
[06:11] <losha> jstrake: now do: du -x | sort -rn > /tmp/du.out
[06:11] <engineer_> really, how will that be done, i means loading ubntu from windows7 loader?
[06:11] <bazhang> seetherM, I'm not familiar with that card, its odd that there is nothing in hardware drivers for it
[06:11] <Guest36714> where is  this????????????????/
[06:11] <Guest36714> why   the question  all   about    linux  and  win7
[06:11] <bazhang> Guest36714, #ubuntu , support for Ubuntu OS
[06:11] <engineer_> and also plz tell me how to fixndows7 boot loader?
[06:11] <losha> jstrake: it will take a few minutes, as it scans the whole 23G partition
[06:11] <jstrake> losha: okay, processing now.
[06:11] <bazhang> Guest36714, random chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:12] <engineer_> i means how to fix windows7 boot loader?
[06:12] <engineer_> without reinstalling windows7
[06:12] <Guest36714> fix  the  mbr
[06:12] <Guest36714> fix  the  mbr
[06:12] <Guest36714> you  can  fix  the  win7  load
[06:12] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, first give what bazhang said a try
[06:12] <gogeta> whos bein bad
[06:12] <engineer_> ok
[06:12] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, yes you can load ubuntu through the win7 lodaer
[06:12] <engineer_> hows that dones?
[06:13] <bazhang> engineer_, basically when I used the method described above, Ubuntu saw the entire Windows 7 partition as the bootloader (of 117GB)
[06:13] <Guest36714> go   google
[06:13] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, well idealy you will use grub so try this first
[06:13] <losha> jstrake: when it completes, the file /tmp/du.out will contain a listing, largest first, of every file and directory on /dev/sda5 in order of size. Hopefully it will be obvious where the space is going from the listing
[06:13] <bazhang> Guest36714, that is not helpful, please dont suggest it here
[06:13] <gogeta> ryguy: and why are you tryin to hide lol
[06:13] <engineer_> ok . i will try.
[06:14] <MK13> engineer_, http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Recovering+the+Vista+Bootloader+from+the+DVD
[06:14] <jstrake> losha: okay.  Thanks.  I'll check the file and probably report back.  Tried the disk usage analyzer GUI which supposedly does the same thing... but could only find 7.7G.
[06:14] <engineer_> MK13, thanks
[06:14] <ajhtiredwolf> engineer_, I dont know if it still works the same way but in xp and 98 you just had to boot to recovery mdoe and type fixmbr and ntfsldr or something like that, i forget
[06:15] <Guest36714> have   chinese   in  this  room   ???????????/
[06:15] <losha> jstrake: You aren't the first person to say that, I don't trust any of those gui progs. They seem to be really buggy.
[06:15] <bazhang> Guest36714, #ubuntu-cn
[06:15] <Atlantic> me
[06:15] <MK13> engineer_, if you don't have the cd, then EasyBCD has the files too
[06:15] <Guest36714> use  chinese
[06:15] <gogeta> so does supergrub
[06:15] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf, yes fixmbr works for win98 and xp , i have tried it, but dont know for windows vista or 7
[06:15] <Atlantic> Guaguasi[work] ÓÐÊÂÂð
[06:15] <bazhang> Guest36714, not in this channel; /join #ubuntu-cn
[06:15] <gogeta> newer ones support win7
[06:15] <bazhang> Atlantic, english only please
[06:16] <ae86-drifter> i am hearing more about windows 7 than ubuntu in here
[06:16] <Atlantic> ok
[06:16] <gogeta> lol
[06:16] <SnakDoc> Just wanted to say system is running very well with karmic on it :)
[06:16] <engineer_> MK13, how to install boot loader from windows7 dvd?
[06:16] <losha> jstrake: feel free to paste the top 10 lines of /tmp/du.out if you need help
[06:16] <ae86-drifter> get the precracked torrent with the boot loader
[06:16] <ae86-drifter> thats what i did
[06:16] <ae86-drifter> but i got rid of windows  its ghey
[06:16] <gogeta> dam they cracked it aruldy
[06:17] <ae86-drifter> yes it has been cracked for about two months now
[06:17] <jstrake> losha: okay.  pasted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/299544/
[06:17] <engineer_> ajhtiredwolf, and MK!3, and bazhang, thanks for all help, i hope i come with any solution
[06:17] <MK13> engineer_, the site should tell you
[06:17] <ajhtiredwolf> ae86-drifter, ugh, dont start a OS war
[06:17] <engineer_> okies buddies
[06:17] <engineer_> farewell to me.
[06:18] <engineer_> but onething is for sure, the problems that comes to me, are mostly un solvable, :)
[06:18] <ae86-drifter> windows only deserves a vm not an actual partition
[06:18] <gogeta> lol
[06:18] <bazhang> ae86-drifter, piracy talk is not acceptable here, please desist
[06:18] <ajhtiredwolf> ae86-drifter, asking and answering questions would be awesome
[06:18] <gogeta> ae86-drifter or a vm on  a real paration
[06:18] <losha> jstrake: ok, 16G in /var, of which 15G is /var/backup. 3G in /usr, can't do much about that. Next is /home/jonathan with about 2G. Then each individual file in /var/backup. Is any of this making any sense?
[06:19] <ae86-drifter> lol anything on your hd is actually on a REAL partition :P
[06:19] <ae86-drifter> except for mbr
[06:20] <jstrake> losha: yes.  Am I safe to delete the /var/backup files?  And what is best practice for doing so?
[06:20] <gogeta> ae86-drifter i used a vm a real partation and some tricks ro make a usb xp
[06:22] <ae86-drifter> oh really, i have backtrack 4 on a bootable usb drive
[06:22] <bazhang> !ot | ae86-drifter gogeta
[06:22] <losha> jstrake: well, it depends. What are they backups of? You probably don't want to delete them all. You might wanna keep, say, the two most recent. Do you even know what's creating them?
[06:22] <ae86-drifter> err yeah ubuntu....
[06:22] <bentor> #list
[06:22] <ae86-drifter> !list
[06:23] <ae86-drifter> lol
[06:23] <jstrake> losha: they are likely backups generated by SimpleBackup--an app I installed earlier and haven't thought of in a while.  I will play with the settings for a minute and post the results.
[06:24] <ae86-drifter> ubuntu 10.04 is under development
[06:24] <losha> jstrake: well, it's good to have backups. But they *do* take up disk space. No thanks to whatever gui told you you're only using 7G, btw...
[06:24] <jstrake> losha: no doubt.  Thanks for all the help!
[06:25] <ae86-drifter> set it to incremental backup
[06:25] <ajhtiredwolf> has anyone had the problem of compiz not supporting composite transparancy under LXDE?
[06:25] <losha> jstrake: my pleasure. I really need to write this stuff up...
[06:25] <ae86-drifter> incremental backups will take up alot less space
[06:25] <jstrake> losha: yep, and publish it and make some $$$
[06:26] <losha> jstrake: yeah, that's why I'm on #ubuntu. For the money. Half the time I can't even give advice away free....
[06:26] <jstrake> losha: one more thing: would you mind pastebinning the two commands you showed me for how to find what was eating my drive space?
[06:27] <losha> jstrake: you mean: sudo -i; cd /; du -x | sort -rn > /tmp/du.out
[06:27] <gogeta> losha yea so mutch money in linux wait thers the repo man dam
[06:27] <losha> gogeta: :-)
[06:27] <jstrake> losha: yep.  those are they.  Thanks!  Good luck with the advice and money!
[06:27] <vadim> Упс. Куды это я попаааал???
[06:28] <bazhang> vadim, #ubuntu-ru for Russian
[06:28] <losha> jstrake: don't forget, there's also the glory, the roar of the crowd, and the nerd groupies...
[06:28] <losha> !ru | vadim
[06:28] <gogeta> losha you mean the spam of email of people complaining
[06:28] <vadim> Ясненько.
[06:30] <losha> gogeta: my favourite was being publicly berated by someone on this channel for advice I gave him (which was correct, btw) and being told by him that I wasn't fit to advise anyone. Big fun...
[06:30] <iarp> Is an if i yank 1 out of 3 drives in an LVM volumegroup, will everything run fine or is it now even close to a raid type fashion?
[06:30] <maco> iarp: bad idea
[06:30] <gogeta> losha i was there for that one
[06:30] <losha> gogeta: and I thought no-one else had even noticed...
[06:31] <iarp> maco: any software tools to change a vg to raid?
[06:31] <maco> iarp: no idea, sorry
[06:31] <vadim> Хочется что нить скачать. Большое и нужное (из ПО). Не могу придумать что скачать. Runtu, Ubuntu 9.04, Windows7 скачаны. Может Office 2009 стянуть?  :)))
[06:32] <bazhang> vadim, english only here #ubuntu-ru for Russian
[06:32] <bazhang> vadim, /join #ubuntu-ru
[06:32] <gogeta> losha the fun of being a coder and helping strangers lol rember we dont knoe how to fix anything lol
[06:32] <vtec_> Hello I'm trying to make my Ubuntu windows transparent, I have jaunty 9.04 and compiz, how can I do this? I've seen pictures of Ubuntu with transparent windows
[06:32] <losha> bazhang: my russian isn't what it used to be, but I think he's trying to sell something...
[06:32] <web5|org|ua> why after closing app don't remember size and pos ?
[06:32] <gogeta> losha we just wrote the thing
[06:32] <gogeta> lol
[06:32] <losha> gogeta: :-)
[06:32] <vadim> english? :(
[06:33] <bazhang> gogeta, please take chat elsewhere
[06:33] <bazhang> vadim, yes, English here #ubuntu-ru for Russian
[06:33] <web5|org|ua> vadim: íå, ïî àðàáñêè ìîæåøú ?
[06:33] <greg> Hi folks.  I am at wit's end with an ubuntu wireless problem on an HP Mini 110.  It is Ubuntu 8.04, customized for HP.  When we log in, the wireless light on the switch turns from blue to orange.  Pulling on the toggle switch doesn't change it.
[06:33] <maco> web5|org|ua: what on earth was *that*?
[06:33] <maco> web5|org|ua: keyboard smashing?
[06:34] <web5|org|ua> maco: yeah, only for russians !
[06:34] <maco> web5|org|ua: that wasnt russian
[06:34] <maco> web5|org|ua: those werent even cyrillic characters
[06:34] <web5|org|ua> maco: some people talk on this language !
[06:35] <bazhang> web5|org|ua, utf8 and #ubuntu-ru for Russian
[06:35] <web5|org|ua> maco: oh, maybe problem with traslation !
[06:35] <maco> web5|org|ua: uh....i studied russian for a year. thats not russian...
[06:35] <vtec_> Hello I'm trying to make my Ubuntu windows transparent, I have jaunty 9.04 and compiz, how can I do this? I've seen pictures of Ubuntu with transparent windows
[06:35] <bazhang> vtec_, should be in the plugins section of ccsm
[06:35] <web5|org|ua> this channel is drived on UTF ?
[06:36] <maco> web5|org|ua: aye...ubuntu defaults to utf8
[06:36] <bazhang> web5|org|ua, please remain on topic; you need utf8 for characters to be read
[06:36] <greg> Could someone perhaps help me with a wireless problem in Ubuntu?
[06:36] <bazhang> greg, which chipset on the card
[06:36] <greg> Broadcom
[06:36] <markmq> is there an ubuntu help channel/
[06:37] <gogeta> broadcoms normaly work out of box
[06:37] <bazhang> greg, does ifconfig see the card
[06:37] <Billiard> this is markmq
[06:37] <gogeta> your in it
[06:37] <web5|org|ua> bazhang: for english, doesn't matter.
[06:37] <bazhang> markmq, this is it
[06:37] <greg> It did work out of the box.  But then after about a week, it stopped working.
[06:37] <bazhang> greg, open a terminal and type ifconfig, do you see it there
[06:37] <gogeta> greg go in bios turn back on its some strange happning in 9.04
[06:37] <greg> It says that wireless is disabled in (I think) iwconfig
[06:37] <greg> This is in 8.04
[06:38] <greg> HP ships Mini 110-1000 with 8.04
[06:38] <bazhang> greg, is there a wireless shutoff switch on the machine
[06:38] <markmq> okay then quick question.  when I launch ubuntu from disk it askes if I want to install hardware for my wireless card.  now that I've installed it doesn't see it or give me any option like this
[06:38] <greg> Yes there is one, it has a little LED light on it.
[06:38] <greg> That light is blue until I log in, then it turns orange.
[06:38] <greg> Which means that somehow logging in turns off the wireless.
[06:39] <markmq> I figured plugging it in via ethernet might trigger something
[06:39] <greg> Whereas when it worked before, it stayed blue.
[06:39] <markmq> if I go to system -> hardware drivers.  nothing is listed
[06:39] <web5|org|ua> why pos and size don't remember ?
[06:39] <chetnick> where is .bashrc file in ubuntu 9.04? It's not in home dir.
[06:39] <gogeta> greg turn it back on?
[06:39] <markmq> is there a way to make it prob or somethign to that effect?
[06:40] <greg> It is a switch with a spring that slides back.  I have slid it dozens of times and nothing happens.
[06:40] <harisund> Is there anyway I can see a current Gnome desktop session from another machine, like Windows' remote desktop? (Aside from VNC ... unless I can change resolution through VNC)
[06:40] <gogeta> greg try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[06:40] <losha> greg: still waiting to see your answer to bazhang's question....
[06:40] <markmq> anyone?
[06:40] <greg> Okay I will get that laptop and see.
[06:41] <gogeta> wlan0 is whatever your card uses
[06:41] <web5|org|ua> ubuntu don't remember pos & size after closing apps !? Why ?
[06:41] <gogeta> a brodcom shopuld be that
[06:41] <orly_owl> Hello.
[06:41] <bazhang> this is 8.04 however
[06:41] <vtec_> Hello I'm trying to make my Ubuntu windows transparent, I have jaunty 9.04 and compiz, how can I do this? I've seen pictures of Ubuntu with transparent windows
[06:42] <bazhang> vtec_, do you have ccsm installed
[06:42] <chetnick> where is .bashrc file in ubuntu 9.04? It's not in home dir.
[06:42] <greg> Yes it is wlan0
[06:42] <vtec_> yes I do bazhang
[06:42] <orly_owl> I installed Jaunty on a Toshiba laptop and the left click does not work. It's not a hardware issue because I plugged ina mouse and it still didn't work. How do I fix this?
[06:42] <Billiard> chetnick: home dir
[06:42] <markmq> yes it is in your home dir
[06:42] <bazhang> vtec_, that is one of the plugins iirc you may wish to get expert advice in #compiz if no one here knows
[06:43] <chetnick> Billiard: do you have it there?
[06:43] <markmq> ~/.bashrc
[06:43] <Billiard> chetnick: yep
[06:43] <chetnick> cause i dont have one.
[06:43] <orly_owl> Sorry, IBM, not Toshiba.
[06:43] <markmq> gedit ~/.bashtv
[06:43] <markmq> err
[06:43] <Billiard> chetnick: it starts with a . its hidden
[06:43] <markmq> gedit ~/.bashrc
[06:43] <chetnick> i know. its not there
[06:43] <Billiard> chetnick: then you deleted it
[06:43] <markmq> open up a terminal
[06:43] <chetnick> i only have .bash_history and .bash_logout
[06:43] <markmq> then type : ls -al
[06:43] <orly_owl> I installed Jaunty on an IBM laptop and the left click does not work. It's not a hardware issue because I plugged ina mouse and it still didn't work. How do I fix this?
[06:44] <greg> Okay I ran ifconfig.  What am I looking for again?  Or what options to ifconfig?
[06:44] <bazhang> greg, it is seen as wlan0 in ifconfig? do you have an AP to test it on?
[06:44] <chetnick> i have never deleted .bashrc
[06:44] <gogeta> greg sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[06:44] <chetnick> i am using Januty, if that makes difference
[06:44] <tntc> I've got a rather odd problem: I have an external hard disk that shows up in dmesg, can be cfdisk, and can be manually mounted, but won't show up in Places, etc, unless it's mounted by hand.  Another disk, formatted with the same FS, shows up fine.  They are literally identical models of disk, both with NTFS on them.  Why would one show up and not the other?
[06:44] <greg> There is a wlan0 paragraph in ifconfig.
[06:44] <augten> chetnick: try "locate .bash" ?
[06:44] <gogeta> greg should tell it to turn the card back on
[06:44] <Billiard> chetnick: if you want it back `cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~/`
[06:44] <greg> How do I tell it to turn the card back on?
[06:44] <bazhang> greg, okay great; do you have a wifi hotspot to test it on
[06:45] <gogeta> command i just gave you
[06:45] <greg> Yes I have my own house wireless
[06:45] <chetnick> Billiard: thanks
[06:45] <chetnick> that works.
[06:45] <greg> gogeta  Thanks for that command!  Unf. it scrolled by and I am not used to this stupid IRC client.
[06:45] <greg> Oh right
[06:45] <greg> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[06:45] <bazhang> greg, normally sudo dhclient wlan0 if it is not encrypted, I will get you a link on how to set it manually if it is encrypted
[06:45] <gogeta> yep
[06:45] <Billiard> chetnick: np
[06:46] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 greg
[06:46] <markmq> okay if I live boot my ubuntu cd it identifys my wireless card and allows me to install the restricted drivers
[06:46] <greg> Well one thing is that that this system is running NetworkManager.
[06:47] <greg> Yes my house wireless does have a wep key.
[06:47] <bazhang> markmq, install the wireless drivers on the livecd?
[06:47] <markmq> now that I've installed I don't get that option from System -> hardware drivers
[06:47] <gogeta> greg as long as the light is blue again the gui should wrok from there
[06:47] <greg> ifconfig wlan0 up reported nothing.
[06:47] <greg> gogeta the light is orange
[06:47] <markmq> well bazhang it automatically indentified my card for me,  I wouldn't know which driver or even begin to know how to do that
[06:47] <gogeta> then its on
[06:47] <greg> I ran dhclient wlan0 but the light stayed orange.
[06:47] <greg> gogeta No orange means off.  blue means on.
[06:48] <markmq> bazhang, its not like there is a device manager type application that notices my uninstalled hardware
[06:48] <bazhang> greg, well, with wep you should check the link I gave you
[06:48] <tntc> greg: hp laptop?
[06:48] <gogeta> greg i think its off in the bios
[06:48] <bigfootbuilt> Firefox fresh install question...I had to completely remove all traces of Firefox, but anytime I try to do a fresh install, Firefox won't connect to any sites. When launching from the terminal, I get a long list of error messages that seem to suggest some libraries re missing...what is the first step in installing Firefox that I am missing?
[06:48] <lstarnes> bigfootbuilt: how did you install it?
[06:48] <bigfootbuilt> Package manager
[06:48] <greg> bazhang Your link is very interesting, but it scrolled by a long time ago.  Could you repeat please?
[06:48] <bazhang> bigfootbuilt, which version of ff how installed
[06:49] <bigfootbuilt> Tried to install 3.1 first
[06:49] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 greg
[06:49] <uio> hi.what package should i install for boost in C++?
[06:49] <greg> tntc yes, hp laptop.  netbook in fact
[06:49] <uio> im using ubuntu feisty
[06:49] <greg> bazhang Thanks!
[06:49] <bigfootbuilt> I hear we can't just install 3.5 first
[06:49] <bazhang> uio, that is no longer supported, get a more recent support version
[06:49] <tntc> greg: I dunno about your netbook, but on my full size one, the wireless card light stays orange even when the card is working.
[06:49] <uio> how about in dapper?
[06:49] <lstarnes> bigfootbuilt: you can go to 3.5 without going to 3.1 first
[06:49] <bigfootbuilt> Thru package manager?
[06:50] <lstarnes> bigfootbuilt: 3.0 is the default in ubuntu 8.04-9.04
[06:50] <greg> ttnc Well the thing is that this is a  modified ubuntu  for HP , and on the other one we have, it is blue.  Also for this one, when it worked.
[06:50] <bazhang> uio, also end of life
[06:50] <bigfootbuilt> lstarnes: What should I select first in package manager?
[06:50] <tntc> hrm. greg: the wireless switch doesn't change the state?
[06:51] <lstarnes> bigfootbuilt: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[06:51] <vtec_> Hello I'm trying to make my Ubuntu windows transparent, I have jaunty 9.04 and compiz, how can I do this? I've seen pictures of Ubuntu with transparent windows
[06:51] <bigfootbuilt> 9.04
[06:51] <greg> bazhang the instructions at your link have an <interface>.  What do I use for that?  wlan0 or eth0?
[06:51] <bazhang> greg, wlan0
[06:51] <greg> tntc No it doesn't.  Not any more.
[06:51] <greg> bazhang thanks.
[06:51] <lstarnes> bigfootbuilt: look for firefox-3.5
[06:52] <bigfootbuilt> vtec_ You can customize the terminal window to use transparency
[06:52] <vtec_> Bigfoot, I would like for ALL of my things to be transparent
[06:52] <bigfootbuilt> vtec_: there is an option in the terminal menus that you can make it transparent, not sure about the rest of the windows
[06:52] <vtec_> not just the terminal
[06:53] <bigfootbuilt> lstarnes: thanks, but I think I already tried that to no avail. There is some other files that seem to be missing
[06:53] <lstarnes> bigfootbuilt: there's also firefox-3.5-gnome-support
[06:53] <Sirisian> is there a command in ubuntu to list all the systemcalls?
[06:53] <quimkaos> can anyone help me setup my scaner of na multifiuntion HP 2180?
[06:53] <lstarnes> bigfootbuilt: does anything else have similar errors?
[06:53] <uio> can i install them manually somehow bazhang?
[06:53] <markmq> is there a dedicated ubuntu help channel?
[06:53] <markmq> or is this it?
[06:53] <lstarnes> markmq: yes
[06:54] <lstarnes> markmq: this is it
[06:54] <markmq> haha
[06:54] <markmq> I'm bummed dont know how to go about gettin gmy wireless working
[06:54] <fotoflo> hmm, how do i install libgd on ubuntu??
[06:54] <markmq> I can get it working via live boot
[06:54] <greg> bazhang.  I copied all of the commands.  It all seemed to work, but dhcpdiscover does not work.  And the light is still orange.
[06:54] <markmq> this is frustrating
[06:54] <bigfootbuilt> lstarnes: Ya, I selected that, and the gnome package. I only removed the packages that were related to Firefox. Nothing else. But when I open firefox from terminal window, I see a long list of errors suggesting I am missing some type of library files
[06:54] <markmq> how do I make it discover my wireless card ARGH!
[06:54] <lstarnes> fotoflo: check apt-cache search libgd
[06:54] <bazhang> greg, sure, with wep it will not work unless you set the password (wep) per the link
[06:54] <mdavidn> iCarly: Have you tried the compizconfig-settings-manager package?
[06:55] <markmq> going to try a reboot
[06:55] <bigfootbuilt> lstarnes: I will try again
[06:55] <greg> bazhang Yes I did the key line too.
[06:55] <lstarnes> bigfootbuilt: can you pastebin the erros?
[06:55] <lstarnes> *errors
[06:55] <harisund> Does anyone have a Microsoft Remote Desktop equivalent for Gnome that automatically adjusts to the resolution of the client I am connecting from? VNC doesn't automatically adjust, it shows me the entire resolution of the server and that is irritating when connecting from my laptop
[06:55] <greg> bazhang Can't know if I did the key line correctlly.
[06:55] <bigfootbuilt> It is on another computer, but I will see what I can do
[06:55] <iCarly> mdavidn, I have ccsm but idk where to go t make it like that
[06:55] <bazhang> greg, if you paste.ubuntu.com with them we can check
[06:56] <bazhang> iCarly, could be the plugin opacify ; not sure though--best to ascertain in #compiz
[06:57] <mdavidn> iCarly: unfortunately, I'm running in a VM and can't check now
[06:57] <bazhang> quimkaos, what does linuxprinting.org say about that printer? is scanning supported in Linux
[06:57] <uio> bazhang: the problem is i dont have sufficient memory at the moment to do an upgrade..you know what is the best workaround?
[06:57] <greg> bazhang unf. I have to first find a cable for what I am doing.
[06:58] <fotoflo> lstarnes: too much info there -- to many choices
[06:58] <bigfootbuilt> lstarnes: Strange...See a minimized window that says "starting firefox browser" and it won't maximize. It sits there for a few seconds then disappears
[06:58] <iCarly> no problem mdavidn
[06:58] <bazhang> uio, my apologies, I forgot what you wanted to upgrade on your box
[06:59] <uio> bazhang, i wanted the c++ boost but i do not have enough space to upgrade to other distros at the moment
[06:59] <fotoflo> Package libgd2 is a virtual package provided by:  libgd2-xpm 2.0.35.dfsg-3ubuntu2   libgd2-noxpm 2.0.35.dfsg-3ubuntu2
[06:59] <fotoflo> whats XPM?
[06:59] <greg> bazhang well I am just going to have to give up for tonight.  Although you did give me some useful pointers.
[06:59] <greg> bazhang thanks anyway.
[06:59] <bigfootbuilt> lstarnes: The only error msg I get now is "/opt/firefox/firefox-bin: not found"
[06:59] <bazhang> uio, what is the package name? C++_boost ?
[07:00] <lstarnes> fotoflo: X PixMap
[07:00] <fotoflo> do i want that?
[07:00] <quimkaos> can anyone help me setup my scaner of na multifiuntion HP 2180? hplip and hpoj are not working
[07:00] <uio> for C++ use bazhag
[07:00] <uio> bazhang
[07:00] <lstarnes> fotoflo: it's an ascii-based image format
[07:00] <jstrake> losha: jstrake here.  Yep, it was the Simple Backup (sbackup).  Reconfigured and ran it to wipe out old back ups and voila! gained by my 14G.  Thanks!
[07:00] <fotoflo> oh
[07:00] <the_gamer> hi golks, i got jaunty and i need opera. can't find it in synaptic. how to install it?
[07:00] <lstarnes> fotoflo: it's optional; if you don't want/need it, don't use it
[07:00] <lstarnes> !opera | the_gamer
[07:00] <fotoflo>  http://screencast.com/t/wjhmsAanmGMK
[07:00] <bazhang> greg, this is 8.04 and broadcom; later version of Ubuntu (such as Jaunty have much better broadcom support)
[07:00] <fotoflo> what do i need to fix this problem?
[07:00] <the_gamer> thanks
[07:01] <fotoflo> in piwik
[07:01] <bigfootbuilt> lstarnes: The only error msg I get now is "/opt/firefox/firefox-bin: not found"
[07:01] <lstarnes> bigfootbuilt: I don't think firefox is supposed to be in /opt
[07:02] <bazhang> bigfootbuilt, the package manager would not put it in /opt
[07:02] <bigfootbuilt> lstarnes: I found out 2 things....
[07:02] <lstarnes> bigfootbuilt: what do you get from which firefox  and which firefox-3.5?
[07:03] <bigfootbuilt> lstrnes: If I type "firefox", it gets that error I showed you. If I type "mozilla", it says "mozilla not currently installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install seamonkey-browser"???
[07:03] <lstarnes> bigfootbuilt: mozilla is not firefox
[07:03] <toot> My system crashes while playing sounds, randomly and intermittently. If I use a game in WINE, it will happen more, but it happens even watching movies and listening to music. I have memtest86+'d and although I am willing to take suggestions on where to look, i don't see anything in logs.
[07:03] <bigfootbuilt> lstarnes: have you ever heard of the "seamonkey"?
[07:04] <bazhang> quimkaos, did you check the link I gave you for scanning support with that all-in one printer
[07:04] <lstarnes> bigfootbuilt: it's a community-maintained fork of the mozilla suite
[07:04] <quimkaos> no
[07:04] <lstarnes> bigfootbuilt: what output do you get from "which firefox" and "which firefox-3.5" ?
[07:04] <quimkaos> what link
[07:04] <toot> When I say it crashes, it repeats a half-second of sound over and over again to infinity, and no response at all from anything. no numlock lights change.
[07:04] <uio> bazhang: any idea?
[07:04] <bazhang> http://linuxprinting.org quimkaos
[07:04] <navap> iarp: You there?
[07:05] <bazhang> uio, could you give me the exact package name (if you can recall it)?
[07:05] <toot> Any advice? It's driving me nuts
[07:05] <uio> c++ boost lib..or maybe libboost-dev
[07:05] <lilzeus-web> anyone know of a good top 10 apps site for ubuntu?
[07:05] <jamiewan> Need help with samba, I have a private network setup with a friend but after latest kernel install i cant see my workgroup or shares on his box, can someone pls help
[07:05] <bazhang> lilzeus-web, which type of apps
[07:05] <bigfootbuilt> lstarnes: which firefox = /usr/bin/firefox...........which firefox-3.5 = /usr/bin/firefox-3.5"
[07:06] <lstarnes> bigfootbuilt: that seems sane
[07:06] <bigfootbuilt> ya, it's insane that it is sane and it wont work lol
[07:06] <bazhang> bigfootbuilt, did you also install 3.1 outside of the package management system?
[07:06] <lilzeus-web> bazhang: well, someone recommended a site but I can't remember it...it had a pick for best wysiwyg webpage editor
[07:06] <mdavidn> toot: which audio card are you using?
[07:06] <bigfootbuilt> bazhang: not this time
[07:07] <bazhang> bigfootbuilt, ie in /opt ?
[07:07] <bazhang> !html | lilzeus-web
[07:07] <Guest36714> ubuntu   too  hard to use
[07:07] <bigfootbuilt> bazhang: I installed everything thru package manager, so if it put it in /opt then it wasn't me
[07:07] <Guest36714> especially  chinese
[07:07] <bazhang> Guest36714, then dont use it
[07:07] <Guest36714> no
[07:08] <bazhang> Guest36714, please ask a support question if you have an issue
[07:08] <Guest36714> but  it  is  suit  for   college
[07:08] <lilzeus-web> http://www.osalt.com/
[07:08] <darkham> how many shipments can be requested ?
[07:08] <bigfootbuilt> I think I am supposed to select an additional package. There are so many damn firefox packages
[07:08] <toot> mdavidn, 00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2) i'm using the release drivers
[07:08] <Guest36714> who   make  frends  ?? i  am a chinese
[07:09] <bazhang> Guest36714, please; #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support chat
[07:09] <Guest36714> give  me  your  email
[07:09] <mjs> hello
[07:10] <Guest36714> 有 说  中文的么
[07:10] <iCarly> http://fvwm-themes.sourceforge.net/screenshots/full/transparent.png
[07:10] <Guest36714> 谁 认识 这几个字
[07:10] <iCarly> How can I get my desktop just like that on ubuntu 9.04?
[07:10] <bazhang> Guest36714, as I have told you #ubuntu-cn for chinese, english only here
[07:10] <darkham> how many of you can't no more request cds from shipit?
[07:10] <Guest36714> the desktop  on  9.04 is rubbish
[07:10] <Guest36714> how  about  like  apple
[07:10] <bigfootbuilt> Guest: Then change it
[07:10] <usser> iCarly, install fluxbox+xcom instead of fvvwm
[07:10] <mjs> I'm using 9.04 can't get presentation to open .pps files, any suggestions?
[07:10] <tck8> anyone here use iperf?
[07:11] <uio> bazhang, let me know once you hav echecked them
[07:11] <uio> thanks
[07:11] <lilzeus-web> what is KDE?
[07:11] <lilzeus-web> !kde
[07:12] <lilzeus-web> ok, if I have an app that says "web development environment for KDE" can I run it on Ubuntu?
[07:12] <lstarnes> lilzeus-web: yes
[07:12] <lstarnes> lilzeus-web: ubuntu can use kde
[07:12] <bazhang> lilzeus-web, sure you can
[07:12] <lilzeus-web> is KDE something I can install?
[07:13] <lstarnes> lilzeus-web: yes
[07:13] <bazhang> lilzeus-web, the package is kubuntu-desktop
[07:13] <lstarnes> lilzeus-web: you don't need to install it to run its applications though
[07:13] <lstarnes> lilzeus-web: just the base libraries used by it
[07:13] <jamiewan> Need help with samba, I have a private network setup with a friend but after latest kernel install (Jaunty) i cant see my workgroup or shares on his box anymore, can someone pls help
[07:13] <bazhang> lilzeus-web, as lstarnes has said however you dont need to install the full kde suite to use some of its apps
[07:14] <lilzeus-web> jamiewan: don't use samba, lots of issues, use ssh
[07:14] <jamiewan> lilzeus-web: ok thanx will try that
[07:15] <mjs> I'm using 9.04 can't get Openoffice.org Presentation to open .pps files, any suggestions?
[07:15] <lilzeus-web> could anyone help me set up this filter I have so it runs either all the time or on a keyboard shortcut?
[07:15] <toot> Hi, i'm back, sorry, i just had another crash
[07:16] <toot> who was helping me with my crash issue?
[07:16] <mdavidn> toot: I was, but I'm not having much luck looking up your hardware.
[07:16] <aperson> I've drug a theme into appearance settings, where did that theme install to?
[07:17] <aperson> it's not in /usr/share/icons
[07:17] <toot> it's an nvidia board, geforce 6100SM-M
[07:17] <toot> the sound card is integrated
[07:17] <toot> 64 bit
[07:17] <lilzeus-web> blackpenguin: lilzeus: you could "wget http://linux01.org/~nlissne/filter" and use this to remove u+FEFF from the paste-buffer - you need to install xsel - and maybe put the script on a hotkey
[07:17] <toot> and 64 bit ubuntu
[07:17] <lilzeus-web> can someone help me do that?
[07:18] <iCarly> http://fvwm-themes.sourceforge.net/screenshots/full/transparent.png
[07:18] <iCarly> How can i get my desktop to have transparent windows like that?
[07:20] <darkham> how many shipments of ubuntu are allowed by canonical?
[07:20] <Jordan_U> darkham: It depends on what you want them for
[07:21] <web5|org|ua> i need to ubuntu remember exact position of window before close !
[07:21] <darkham> Jordan_U, i only want one personal copy of desktop and server edition
[07:21] <toot> mdavidn, http://paste.ubuntu.com/299582/
[07:22] <mjs> darkham, much easier to download
[07:22] <Jordan_U> darkham: They should allow that, but you should read this: http://blog.canonical.com/?p=264
[07:23] <lilzeus-web> why have all my package download through synaptic been so slow lately?
[07:24] <maco> lilzeus-web: release candidate today. lots of people downloading install disks or upgrading to the next release
[07:24] <lilzeus-web> ah, that would explain it
[07:24] <lilzeus-web> cuz I have super fast connection
[07:24] <stuhlbein> hello! somehow i managed to screw up my root partition on ubuntu by doing a misconfigured installation of uClibc. and since i'm not able to boot it anymore (i got a huge bunch of ld.so-related assertion-failures, and a kernelpanic) i don't really want to rescue the root partition, but my /home partition. would i be able to do this with ubuntu 7.04, or should i grad jaunty instead? i really, REALLY don't want to lose my home partition. :(
[07:25] <Billiard> stuhlbein: you can reinstall without formatting your home partition
[07:25] <Gratz474> what does this do for your video?
[07:25] <Gratz474> the migrationheuristic when set to greedy uses
[07:25] <navap> iarp: You there?
[07:25] <maco> stuhlbein: 1. 7.04 is end of life. hasn had security updates in a LONG time...so you should at least go to 8.04
[07:25] <Gratz474> its supposed to be a performance improvement?
[07:26] <stuhlbein> Billiard: okay
[07:26] <maco> stuhlbein: 2. 8.04 and newer can install on the same partition without losing /home directory. if you actually have a /home partition, any version is fine
[07:27] <stuhlbein> maco: yeah, i do have infact /home as a independent partiton, but i didn't see any option to use it in 7.04, that's why i asked... anyway, i already downloaded a copy of 9.04, so i think i'll try it with 9.04
[07:28] <wolf39us> I am looking for the linux drivers for RTL8192-E ... I'm looking all over google and can't find them.. any ideas?
[07:28] <jkka> hi. how do i change/ configure the ugly large fonts in the terminal/ console (not terminal emulator) like the ones used in SLED 11?
[07:29] <wolf39us> it is for a Toshiba Satellite P505D
[07:29] <jkka> correction : and use a small font similar to the one used in SLED 11?
[07:29] <Gratz474> Option “MigrationHeuristic” “greedy” would this improve performance?
[07:30] <quimkaos> still no luck.... HP F2180 scanner dosen't work tho it prints fine...
[07:30] <Bluey> quimkaos: I had a similar problems
[07:32] <Gratz474> does UXA support Option “MigrationHeuristic” “greedy” ?
[07:32] <jkka> hi. how do i change/ configure the ugly large fonts in the terminal/ console (not terminal emulator) and use the one like the one used in SLED 11?
[07:34] <vox> wolf39us: they're being written as we speak, should show up in the next kernel release hopefully
[07:34] <DaZ> jkka: you can change resolution ;f
[07:35] <kennk> how can i set my microphone to output to speakers without having to pull up a recording app and hit play
[07:35] <wolf39us> here's another question...how would I go about updating the kernel release....without an internet connection? lol....would this be an ISO I can just burn...can I use a thumb drive?
[07:36] <DaZ> wolf39us: download from the ftp and update locally? ;f
[07:37] <jkka> hi. how do i change/ configure the default large font in the terminal/ console (not terminal emulator) and use a smaller one?
[07:37] <wolf39us> ah, sorry for the noob questions...
[07:37] <wolf39us> <<noob
[07:37] <Bluey> jkka: just a sec
[07:38] <DaZ> jkka: you can change the resolution ;f
[07:38] <jkka> DaZ: i am talking about the linux console ... not the emulator we use in X
[07:39] <DaZ> jkka: me too
[07:39] <DaZ> vga=xxx
[07:39] <jkka> DaZ: you can change the resolution without X server running?
[07:39] <DaZ> jkka: framebuffer
[07:39] <jkka> DaZ: can you please elabrate?
[07:40] <jkka> elaborate*
[07:40] <DaZ> jkka: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#Framebuffer_Resolution
[07:40] <jkka> DaZ: Bluey TY
[07:40] <quimkaos> i quit ... time to bed
[07:41] <Bluey> quimkaos: night
[07:42] <bigfootbuilt> lstarnes: thanks for the help earlier. I couldn't get it to work, but I still learned some shit
[07:42] <johntron> gah, another late night thanks to hackthissite.org
[07:42] <johntron> so addicting
[07:43] <jkka> DaZ: i will give this a try... also do you know any tiling window manager for the console? Without X server? like awn?
[07:43] <prince_jammys> ''screen''
[07:44] <jkka> sorry not awn ... but ion3
[07:44] <DaZ> jkka: i'm not a console person :f
[07:44] <prince_jammys> !info screen | jkka
[07:44] <kennk> how can i set my microphone to output to speakers without having to pull up a recording app and hit play
[07:44] <aperson> I've drug an icon theme into appearance settings, does anyone know where did that theme install to?
[07:45] <prince_jammys> jkka the hack they propose in that page for getting grub to prompt you can simply be done by using ''vga=ask''
[07:45] <jkka> does anyone here know any tiling window manager for the console? Without X server? like ion 3?
[07:45] <prince_jammys> meh.
[07:45] <web5|org|ua> Two-Panel file manager ?
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> jkka: awesome
[07:46] <Tehedra> Hey all! Just got a question i would like to ask.  Its more of an opinion though
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> jkka: its a WM
[07:46] <Tehedra> Which is better, KDE or GNOME?
[07:46] <mdavidn> "screen" can split the your console to display multiple shells.
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> Tehedra: both and neither
[07:46] <Tehedra> GNOME i understand is the ubuntu default, but KDE has more features? Though more issues?
[07:46] <Bluey> Tehedra: that's a religious holy warmmm
[07:46] <bazhang> Tehedra, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> Tehedra: neither is better nor best, they are just different
[07:46] <Tehedra> How is that off topic to ubuntu?
[07:46] <web5|org|ua> mdavidn: mean graphical, not console !
[07:46] <maco> Tehedra: this is a support channel
[07:46] <bazhang> Tehedra, its not a support issue
[07:47] <maco> Tehedra: not a chatter channel
[07:47] <prince_jammys> Tehedra: this is a support channel, not for polling personal preference.
[07:47] <Tehedra> Well then factual information?
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Tehedra: /j #ububuntu-offtopic    someone there will fill you in
[07:47] <DaZ> Tehedra: try both :f
[07:47] <bazhang> Tehedra, which do you have installed
[07:47] <Bluey> Tehedra: really off topic...
[07:47] <wolf39us> so I downloaded 2.6.31 from the kernel.org... I have to compile the kernel correct? and how do I view the current kernel version?
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Tehedra: like "My firefox (although a sucky browser) is running slow, can I speed it up"
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> Tehedra: fixing broken stuff
[07:48] <Bluey> wolf39us: why not get the beta for 9.10?
[07:48] <mdavidn> web5|org|ua: I was responding to jkka
[07:48] <engineer_> hey all
[07:48] <bigfootbuilt> Hi
[07:49] <Tehedra> offtopic was no help either
[07:49] <Tehedra> thanks guys
[07:49] <wolf39us> ah, would this include the rtl8192e drivers...the latest kernel says something about it under "staging" drivers
[07:49] <engineer_> anyone knows hows to check my system info, wether its 32bit or 64 bit on ubuntu?
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> engineer_: uname -a
[07:49] <DaZ> engineer_: arch
[07:49] <Bluey> engineer_: uname -a
[07:49] <engineer_> ok thanks let me check it
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> engineer_: x86_64 == 64bir   i686 == 32bit
[07:49] <ActionParsnip> engineer_: thats your linux kernel acrchitecture
[07:50] <Bluey> iirc cat /etc/issue will tell you what version of ubuntu you're running
[07:50] <engineer_> ActionParsnip; thanks dude. i got it
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> engineer_: if you wanna know if the CPU is 64 bit (64bit cpu can run 32bit OS) then run: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep name
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> engineer_: then get websearching
[07:51] <bigfootbuilt> 9.04 is my first linux distro. When 9.1 comes out, do I have to do a clean install? Or just update it?
[07:52] <bazhang> bigfootbuilt, your choice
[07:52] <Bluey> bigfootbuilt: your choice - personally I've found that a clean install is usually best...
[07:52] <bigfootbuilt> bazhang: Would package manager install it?
[07:52] <eradicus> bigfootbuilt, is there really a 9.1?
[07:52] <bigfootbuilt> Updater I mean?
[07:52] <Bluey> bigfootbuilt: however - you need to backup /home and /etc as a minimum
[07:52] <bigfootbuilt> 9.10 = 9.1 sorry
[07:52] <bazhang> bigfootbuilt, sure it will
[07:53] <DaZ> bigfootbuilt: you can update
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> bigfootbuilt: you can use the web just "upgrade" from 9.04 to 9.10. Or if you like you can clean install
[07:53] <bigfootbuilt> Thanks guys
[07:53] <DaZ> but... it's ubuntu, it doesn't survive updates >:
[07:53] <Gratz474> does empathy have OTR?
[07:54] <Gratz474> i read it does but i can't find it
[07:54] <maco> Gratz474: no
[07:54] <maco> Gratz474: at least, i dont believe so. pidgin and kopete do
[07:54] <Bluey> are they going to deprecate pidgin?
[07:55] <maco> Bluey: not including it as default anymore but its staying in Main
[07:55] <Bluey> maco: kewlness!
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> Bluey: its in the kermic repos, just not in by default I think. I use carrier :)
[07:55] <Gratz474> maco, http://dannipenguin.livejournal.com/273699.html
[07:55] <Gratz474> oly reason i asked
[07:55] <Bluey> ActionParsnip: that's what I am currently using....
[07:56] <keith> i'm looking for something I can use to open and extract rar files (like winrar)
[07:56] <prince_jammys> !rar | keith
[07:56] <forceflow> keith: install unrar
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> keith: sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> keith: you can then use fileroller
[07:56] <keith> sweet ty
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> keith: to extract at command line its: rar x <rar file>
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> simple, no need for a slow ass gio
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> gui
[07:56] <Axmed> Hello
[07:56] <maco> Gratz474: dd you actually click the link? http://resiak.livejournal.com/60614.html
[07:58] <jamiewan> How do you burn .avi files to dvd so they can be played on most players?
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan: sudo apt-get install devede
[07:58] <bazhang> jamiewan, take a look at devede
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan: you can configure a DVD and it will spit out an ISO you can burn
[07:58] <jamiewan> yeah cant get it to work but if thats what you guys reckon i'll persist with it\
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan: there are others
[07:58] <maco> Gratz474: also, did you look at the date on that? April 1?
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> thats just one
[07:58] <jamiewan> ActionParsnip: ok i'll try that too
[08:00] <jamiewan> ActionParsnip:  so i can tell devede to iso an avi file then burn it that way
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan: no, you make a totle page, each menu option plays an avi (or avis)
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan: give it a background and some menu music if you want too, then tell it to run
[08:02] <jamiewan> ActionParsnip: ok thanx mate
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan: it'll take a while depending on how beefy your system is, my 1.6Ghz single core with 2Gb ram takes about 5 hours to do its thang
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan: when its done you will have an iso you can throw at your favourite burning app and it will be good for any player
[08:04] <jamiewan> ActionParsnip: ive got 2.4 ghz 4 gig ram any ideas how long roughly
[08:04] <duckx0r> is anyone else getting 404 errors while trying to download any linux driver from the ATI site?
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> jamiewan: probably an hour less maybe
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> my guess
[08:05] <jamiewan> ActionParsnip: cheers man
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> multicore 64bit rocks at this sort of thing
[08:05] <milligan_> * 4 * * * /milligan/myScript.pl <- Shouldn't that entry in "crontab -e" as root execute every night/morning at 4AM?
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> !cron
[08:06] <wenko> sh necklace.pl > /dev/yourMom
[08:07] <prince_jammys> milligan_: first * should be 0, likely.
[08:07] <duckx0r> can anyone tell me if this link is working for them or is it something to do with my IP block being prevented (file should be 84 megs or so, but just let me know if it works): https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9-10-x86.x86_64.run
[08:07] <jamiewan> duckx0r: not for me
[08:08] <duckx0r> jamiewan, thanks...
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> wenko: you should make a /dev/yourMom
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> wenko: sudo ln -s /dev/null /dev/yourMom
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> thatd be awesome
[08:08] <duckx0r> lol
[08:08] <wenko> ActionParsnip: I would but she was sent do /dev/null when I was 12
[08:08] <ActionParsnip> backhand.sh > /dev/yourMom
[08:08] <vox> guys...
[08:08] <wenko> necklace.pl
[08:09] <milligan_> prince_jammys, I don't have to run any commands after adding the entry? For some reason it didn't get run.
[08:09] <vox> time and a place. this certainly isnt the latter :P
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> its your mom though
[08:09] <prince_jammys> milligan_: how are you determining whether it ran?
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> jk
[08:09] <vox> heh
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> duckx0r: bad link
[08:10] <duckx0r> ActionParsnip, thanks man
[08:10] <chris8> hey room -- what do video cards look like now?  I looked at a few online tutorials and they looked like 3x5" circuit boards... but i don't see anything like that on the towers i've got open here... all i see are little red boxes by the monitor jacks :S ???
[08:10] <milligan_> prince_jammys, the script writes to a logfile when it executes.
[08:10] <prince_jammys> milligan_: do you provide an absolute path to the file? if not, do so.
[08:10] <vox> chris8: depends on the card
[08:11] <vox> chris8: most low-end stuff is really quite small.. the high-end gear is huge.
[08:11] <milligan_> prince_jammys, /milligan/script.pl implies absolute, doesn't it? :)
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> duckx0r: read #29 on this page: http://blogs.amd.com/play/2009/10/22/ati-catalyst%E2%84%A2-9-10-driver-%E2%80%93-what%E2%80%99s-new/
[08:11] <chris8> vox: could they be really tiny and sitting underneath a component attatched to the printer port?
[08:11] <prince_jammys> milligan_: it doesn't imply logfile.
[08:11] <prince_jammys> that's the path to the prog.
[08:11] <master_dou> hello
[08:11] <zenlunatic> !karmic
[08:12] <vox> chris8: uh.. if it's an onboard gfx card, it'll be part of the motherboard.
[08:12] <prince_jammys> milligan_: you shouldn't have to run anything after editing with crontab -e. beforev i'd guess it runs every minute from 4:00 AM - 4:59 AM
[08:12] <milligan_> prince_jammys, ah, the log file .. Well, it's the script that writes to the log .. and it has the correct path.
[08:12] <master_dou> karmic is great
[08:12] <chris8> vox: thanks that must be what i've got here... can't upgrade?
[08:12] <master_dou> anyone who have try it?
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> chris8: http://www.techspot.com/articles-info/139/images/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295.jpg
[08:12] <master_dou> how can i upgrade 9.10 from 9.04
[08:13] <milligan_> prince_jammys, you are right .. it would run every minute.. I hope it didn't,hehe.
[08:13] <vox> chris8: depends on the motherboard. most allow you to disable the on-board and install an agp/pci-e gfx card
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> master_dou: i do but karmic isnt discussed here
[08:13] <master_dou> sorry
[08:13] <chris8> ActionTurnip: thanks
[08:13] <chris8> vox: thanks so much!
[08:13] <vox> chris8: no probs
[08:13] <duckx0r> ActionParsnip, thanks. looks like they haven't uploaded the driver yet.. unfortunately the previous one doesn't seem to be working for me either. I guess I'll just have to wait it out without it
[08:13] <vox> ActionParsnip: those things are stupidbig
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> chris8: 1792Mb
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> vox: tell me about it, its prbably faster than my desktop PC too
[08:14] <master_dou> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade gonna work?
[08:14] <bigfootbuilt> master: I am told the update manager will work
[08:14] <aneesh1> master_dou: Pls check the url http://www.ubuntugeek.com/upgrade-ubuntu-9-04-jaunty-jackalope-to-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala-beta.html
[08:15] <vox> ActionParsnip: and require their own substation to power it.
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> vox: but people like shiny graphics and the gamers will buy them
[08:15] <duckx0r> has anyone tried the kubuntu netbook remix?
[08:16] <vox> ActionParsnip: heh not wrong. i cant justify anything over a 9600gt at this point.
[08:16] <Volcano_> \exit
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> vox: 6150 plays frets on fire just fine :)
[08:17] <Pranav> After booting from Ubuntu to Xp or vice versa, I need to adjust the dislocated screen from the monitor display keys. Any solution guyz ... ;(
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> Pranav: keep it so one OS is OK then adjust the screen position in the other OS
[08:19] <Pranav> ActionParsnip, Sry I didn't get ?
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> Pranav: well both OS have the screen a different way, yes
[08:19] <duckx0r> Pranav, you need to configure both OS's to use exactly the same resolution, horizontal refresh and vertical refresh
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> so you leave the screen so it is ok for one othe the OSes
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> Pranav: then use some grahical tool in the other to make it like the position the monitor is in, rather than manually moving the monitor
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> as well as what duckx0r says as that can shift the screen too
[08:21] <Pranav> ActionParsnip, tools like ?
[08:21] <bigfootbuilt> test
[08:22] <duckx0r> pong
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> Pranav: i dont know any. I dont mess with displays or dual boot
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> Pranav: windows may have one so you can shift the screen. I know nvidia have it
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> Pranav: basically you need to play with software and settings so your image is right, rather than using the OSD on your monitor.
[08:23] <duckx0r> ActionParsnip, that can only shift the screen within the actual viewing area anyway, so if the viewing area is off the edge of the monitor i don't think that any software can correct that
[08:23] <cdan> hi
[08:23] <mohitcs35> hey can any one give me a run through to configure my atheros wireless on my samsung  notebook?
[08:23] <duckx0r> ActionParsnip, i could be wrong though :P
[08:24] <Pranav> duckx0r, I have same resolution and refresh rate in both but I doubt about hor. Hz and Ver. Hz in windows..!
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> mohitcs35: what is the outout of: sudo lshw -C network       please use http://pastebin.com
[08:24] <toothdecay> Hey all, maybe a question someone can answer quickly... How do I change the default kernel selected on bootup, I'd like to permanently use the real time kernel... I've tried to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst but it doesn't exsist. I'm using Ubuntu 9.10 rc
[08:25] <vox> toothdecay: join #ubuntu+1 for karmic support
[08:25] <duckx0r> Pranav, maybe there might be some sort of windows tool you can download to tell you what the horizontal and vertical refresh rates are and more detailed specs about the monitor. I don't know though. If you find it, you could just configure your xorg.conf to be the same
[08:25] <toothdecay> voc: ok thanks
[08:25] <mohitcs35> ActionParsnip: the output is as under
[08:25] <mohitcs35> -network
[08:25] <mohitcs35>        description: Ethernet controller
[08:25] <mohitcs35>        product: AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter
[08:25] <mohitcs35>        vendor: Atheros Communications Inc.
[08:25] <mohitcs35>        physical id: 0
[08:25] <mohitcs35>        bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
[08:25] <FloodBot3> mohitcs35: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:26] <prince_jammys> milligan_: if you have something like exim installed (which you probably do), cron will mail the script's STDOUT and STDERR to the invoking user. you'd find output in /var/mail/$USER. You may use that for debugging purposes.
[08:26] <Pranav> duckx0r, i generated and wrote the modeline myself in xorg.conf
[08:26] <cdan> anybody knows why I can't ifdown the virbr0 iface though I see it configured and with a valid IP ? I get "ifdown: interface virbr0 not configured"
[08:26] <bigfootbuilt> test color
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> mohitcs35: i said use the pastebin, scrolling the channel is not cool
[08:27] <bigfootbuilt> color test
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> mohitcs35: imagie if 10 users did that
[08:27] <maddog> Hello, would anyone here know how to mount a password protected cifs file share from the command line?
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> mohitcs35: how useless would the channel be?
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> mohitcs35: if everyone started pasting like that?
[08:28] <bigfootbuilt> color test
[08:28] <mohitcs35> ActionParsnip: Dear new to interface. sorry for that
[08:28] <Billiard> maddog mount.cifs
[08:28] <bigfootbuilt> Is there no way to change the color of my outgoing text in Xchat?
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> mohitcs35: well i did give you a link....
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> mohitcs35: please use pastebins in future
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> mohitcs35: http://ubuntumanual.org/posts/185/install-atheros-ar242x-802-11abg-wireless-driver-in-ubuntu
[08:29] <icarus-c> bigfootbuilt: what do you think
[08:29] <bigfootbuilt> icarus: I guess "no"?
[08:30] <bigfootbuilt> I can change everything except my dark gray outgoing text
[08:30] <icarus-c> It is yes
[08:30] <frogzoo> bigfootbuilt: don't think freenode widely approves of ansi escapes
[08:30] <Nemoder> anyone know why my ubuntu jaunty would fail to resolve any hostnames?
[08:30] <speedxxxcore> I'm looking for a tasklist app  (ticket system), with multiuser functionality.. preferably for the terminal, ideas?
[08:30] <bigfootbuilt> I would only see it on my end
[08:30] <icarus-c> Nemoder: bad DNS setup?
[08:31] <Pranav> ActionParsnip, duckx0r, Is there some linux tools that can shift and resize the display at startup ?
[08:31] <bigfootbuilt> I can't see what the hell I am typing hardly
[08:31] <frogzoo> Nemoder: /etc/resolv.conf is fail, for some reason
[08:31] <duckx0r> ActionParsnip, I don't know of any
[08:31] <Nemoder> frogzoo: resolve.conf has the right dns server, but i ran a capture on the dns server and ubuntu never even sends to it
[08:31] <frogzoo> Nemoder: iptables in there?
[08:31] <bigfootbuilt> Everyone elses chat looks bright white. Mine is dull gray and I can't find a way to change it
[08:31] <frogzoo> Nemoder: or syntax error?
[08:32] <Nemoder> frogzoo: the dns server works fine for other linux machines on the network, i think it's setup is ok
[08:32] <frogzoo> Nemoder: man resolv.conf for correct syntax
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> Pranav: if you tweak refresh rates it should move around
[08:32] <hey_boy> Hello room
[08:32] <Nemoder> frogzoo: oh, yes the resolv.conf is right
[08:32] <vox> Nemoder: can you ping a public IP from that box?
[08:33] <Nemoder> vox: yes
[08:33] <hey_boy> I am using Karmic. My display settings has only two options for resolution 1024 and higher are not available. Any ideas?
[08:33] <frogzoo> Nemoder: if resolv.conf is correct, there's no firewalling, & you can reach a designated dns server, it just works
[08:33] <Gratz474> is there any UXA tweaks out there? i can't really find nothing on google
[08:33] <vox> Nemoder: ...that makes no sense
[08:33] <Gratz474> hey_boy, do you have your graphics card installed?
[08:33] <vox> Nemoder: are you using Network-Manager?
[08:34] <Nemoder> vox: yes
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> Nemoder: can you give us a pastebin ofresolv.conf try: http://80.87.131.193
[08:34] <hey_boy> I thought it is detected automatically.
[08:34] <vox> Nemoder: do you have the DNS server(s) added in Network-Manager?
[08:34] <Gratz474> hey_boy, run glxgears from command line tell me what you get
[08:34] <Nemoder> vox: no it's dhcp, and that part works fine and it gets the right dns server ip and assigns it to resolve.conf, i can paste it if needed
[08:35] <lnostdal> hi, i'm trying out 9.10 under virtualbox and i'm wondering what "Ubuntu Firefox Modifications" is? .. there is no information or homepage to be found as far as i can see
[08:35] <Nemoder> ActionParsnip: that link doesnt work
[08:35] <hey_boy> Gratz474: I see three gear wheels
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> Nemoder: bah, yeah just make sure the nameserver lines are on one line ;)
[08:35] <qdb> hello. how is it possible to move(shift?) screen (to left 2 cms) with glx 180 driver and ubuntu 904 when monitor has only power button?
[08:36] <Gratz474> hey_boy, how many fps?
[08:36] <qdb> nvidia
[08:36] <Gratz474> hey_boy, in the terminal?
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> lnostdal: ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:36] <hey_boy> fps? what is that
[08:36] <Nemoder> # Generated by NetworkManager
[08:36] <Nemoder> nameserver 192.168.1.1
[08:36] <Nemoder> which is correct, that's my dns server
[08:36] <lnostdal> ActionParsnip, ok, thanks
[08:36] <qdb> frames per second
[08:37] <Gratz474> hey_boy, in the terminal where you ran it how many fps are you getting?
[08:37] <vox> qdb: sudo nvidia-settings
[08:37] <vox> qdb: you can adjust in there
[08:37] <qdb> thank you i will try
[08:38] <elvtars> Nemoder: try opendns
[08:38] <hey_boy> different values like 1096, 11752, 2019.
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> Nemoder: try adding some web based ones
[08:38] <qdb> is not it that what is in system->administration menu? , vox
[08:38] <Gratz474> hey_boy, ok so most likely vesa
[08:38] <Gratz474> hey_boy, what kind of card do you have?
[08:38] <vox> qdb: it's the same, yes
[08:38] <Gratz474> 9.04?
[08:38] <hey_boy> intel 810
[08:38] <qdb> vox, i tried that , has not found there
[08:39] <Shtl> hello all
[08:39] <Nemoder> very strange, it started working again even though I changed nothing
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Nemoder: try adding: nameserver 208.67.222.222    and    nameserver 208.67.222.220
[08:39] <vox> qdb: hmm
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> Nemoder: maybe your provider is playing, those are the openDNS servers
[08:40] <mohitcs35> ActionParsnip: Doesn't work bro
[08:40] <hey_boy> let me check in the BIOS. I will be back.
[08:40] <Nemoder> ActionParsnip: I don't think so, it always works fine from other machines, it just cuts out randomly on the ubuntu box
[08:40] <Gratz474> hey_boy, you need to specify intel in your xorg
[08:40] <qdb> thank you, i quit from this channel
[08:40] <Shtl> i have ubuntu-9.04 installed on AMD semphron 3000+, with 2GB RAM, the monitor is LG Flatron 16", but the OS has not detected the monitor what should i do???
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Nemoder: then have a few backup DNS servers incase the one you have fails
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> mohitcs35: works for everyone else I ever gave it to
[08:41] <duckx0r> what would cause my working ati drivers to suddenly uninstall themselves?
[08:41] <Nemoder> ActionParsnip: that's where I'm confused, the server doesn't even get sent anything, it's like ubuntu's internal resolver is broken
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> mohitcs35: you are compiling the diver for the card
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> Nemoder: you could install dnsmasq to locally store the resolutions
[08:41] <mohitcs35> ActionParsnip: But didn't work for me.
[08:42] <Nemoder> ActionParsnip: that's what is what my dns server machine runs :)
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> Nemoder: also makes browsing a little faster due to name resolves taking 0 time
[08:42] <Guest97369> a query regarding samba server. I have two users at the server aman and I am using security = user parameter. Now from vista I am able to connect to samba share by running this \\192.168.1.201\staff   after this i am prompted for user name and password. The problem is after i have logged in i can ALSO access aman directory which in my view is a security breach. How do i fix this?
[08:42] <Guest97369> two user at server aman and staff
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> mohitcs35: thats all I got then dude, maybe someone else can advise
[08:42] <mohitcs35> ActionParsnip: Thanks for trying
[08:43] <mohitcs35> Any takers plz
[08:43] <ActionParsnip> Guest97369: in the smb.conf you need to tell the service to not allow the other user name
[08:43] <Nemoder> The only thing I could possible guess is that it's trying to use ipv6 but I thought I had that disabled
[08:43] <Guest97369> additionally I am not sharing the two share explicitly, i am using [homes] only
[08:44] <shavinder> ActionParsnip: how can i do that?
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> shavinder: in smb.conf like i just said
[08:44] <shavinder> ActionParsnip: yes, which parameter please?
[08:44] <shavinder> guest = no?
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> shavinder: invalid user
[08:44] <Billiard> shavinder: are your home folders set so all users have read permissions maybe?
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> invalid users =    ?
[08:45] <theadmin> who is .tgz and what is the difference between it and .tar.gz? Both are "Gzipped tarballs"...
[08:45] <shavinder> shall i dpaste my smb.conf?
[08:45] <shavinder> give me a minute I shall do that in a minute
[08:45] <magician11> hi. I'm trying to import a CD into the mp3 format. In the preferred format list, mp3 is not there. However when I click edit, it is in the GNOME audio profile list and mp3 is marked as active. How do I get mp3 to show up as my preferred format? Lame is installed.
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> shavinder: you need to tell samba that the other user name is not allowed to access the data
[08:45] <wolf39us> I have the iso for 9.10, I do not have internet access on the laptop I would like to update on...is there a way to update to 9.10 without creating another ubuntu installation
[08:46] <wolf39us> like can I go to windows and "upgrade" it...or will it overwrite my old install?
[08:46] <theadmin> wolf39us: Use alternative install CD.
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> wolf39us: if you have the alternate CD , yes
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> wolf39us: ive read you can with a liveCD but its not graceful or pretty
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> and i dont advise it
[08:46] <ha1331> Is there way to crypt filesystem that already has content?
[08:46] <wolf39us> ah
[08:47] <wolf39us> I probably have the wrong one...
[08:47] <wolf39us> I have ubuntu-9.10-rc-desktop-i386.iso
[08:47] <bbalajirao> Hello
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> wolf39us: if your CD boots to a graphical desktop with a mouse, then yep wrong disk
[08:48]  * Take0n kalimorning
[08:48] <Take0n> good morning :p
[08:48] <theadmin> wolf39us: And you need...  http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-rc-alternate-i386.iso
[08:48] <Gratz474> i think that actually made my graphics a little bit better
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> easiest way, always download the alternate cd, it installs faster too
[08:48] <shavinder> ActionParsnip: here is my smb.conf please http://paste.ubuntu.com/299619/
[08:48] <wolf39us> downloading LOL
[08:49] <wolf39us> good thing I didn't try anything yet
[08:49] <Gratz474> heyboy, did you get it fixed?
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> shavinder: thats just mine, but you commented out the lines at the bottom
[08:50] <heyboy> Gratz474: no, vga is onboard.
[08:50] <heyboy> not able to determine make
[08:50] <shavinder> ActionParsnip: yes :) but i have enabled homes share
[08:50] <Pranav> When I try to run "sudo xvidtune", it says unable to query monitor. I am running the graphical system. But why ?
[08:50] <Gratz474> heyboy, its an intel right?
[08:50] <Gratz474> did you install the intel drivers?
[08:50] <heyboy> Not sure now.
[08:50] <theadmin> wolf39us: If i were you, though, i'd wait for the final release.
[08:50] <wolf39us> my main thing is getting the RLT8192-e working on the laptop...I know they are getting written currently, but doesn't 9.10 come with "beta" drivers for this chipset?
[08:50] <heyboy> I have not installed any drivers
[08:50] <Gratz474> heyboy, ok what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[08:50] <maco> heyboy: you dont need o install anything
[08:51] <banister`>  what exactly is an icm file and where can i get them from?
[08:51] <heyboy> 9.10
[08:51] <maco> heyboy: intel drivers are and always have been included
[08:51] <wolf39us> my friend can't get online with the 9.04
[08:51] <wolf39us> so he wants to upgrade...
[08:51] <wolf39us> for the drivers
[08:51] <shavinder> ActionParsnip: I enabled homes share,and set security = user. what else should i do?
[08:51] <Gratz474> heyboy, in the device section put Driver "intel" and save and restart
[08:51] <theadmin> wolf39us: What is the method of connection? ethernet? Modem? Or via VPN like me?
[08:51] <wolf39us> both ethernet and wireless are not available
[08:51] <maco> Gratz474: intel devices dont even require an xorg.conf at all
[08:51] <wolf39us> we want wierless
[08:51] <heyboy> device section of what
[08:52] <wolf39us> wireless
[08:52] <wolf39us> it's a new Toshiba Satellite
[08:52] <maco> Gratz474: its just some of the annoying proprietary drivers that require it
[08:52] <Gratz474> maco, they did for me
[08:52] <maco> Gratz474: how old? 6 years or so?
[08:52] <theadmin> wolf39us: Wireless... always been a problem with linux :( Saw so many people here go in and complain their wireless does not work.
[08:52] <Gratz474> maco, its not going to hurt anything
[08:52] <maco> nothing 945 and newer should require effort
[08:52] <Gratz474> maco, he has an i810
[08:52] <Gratz474> and i had a 865
[08:52] <ActionParsnip1> shavinder: i've not done this with with more than 3 users and I define everything microscopically
[08:53] <wolf39us> well it works fine on MY laptop...but I have a typical intel abg on board
[08:53] <maco> oooo wow so yes like 6 yr old
[08:53] <Gratz474> heyboy, do you know what a xorg.conf is ?
[08:53] <banister`> hahaha Gratz474 makes friends on every channel he goes to :)
[08:53] <wolf39us> he has a realtek one
[08:53] <Pranav> I can't run "sudo xvidtune". It says "Unable to query monitor". Any Idea ?
[08:53] <Gratz474> banister`, you really do follow me huh?
[08:53] <ActionParsnip1> shavinder: i thought you meant you had 2 shares each with a single password but the password for one was also allowing access to the second folder
[08:53] <theadmin> wolf39us: There was some realtek thingy in "Hardware drivers" on my comp. Installed it...... did you do so?
[08:53] <Gratz474> heyboy, put the driver part in your xorg and it will work just fine
[08:54] <wolf39us> uhm no I haven't
[08:54] <wolf39us> hardware drivers? hmm
[08:54] <heyboy> in place of "configured video device"?
[08:54] <wolf39us> in the synaptic manager?
[08:54] <theadmin> wolf39us: System->Admininstration->Hardware Drivers
[08:54] <Gratz474> pastebin.ca your thing and link me heyboy
[08:54] <wolf39us> k
[08:55] <theadmin> wolf39us: you'd need internet for that though %)
[08:55] <shavinder> ActionParsnip1: yes that is what is happening. i type \\192.168.1.201\staff and after giving password i can access the aman home directory but if i navigate upwards i can access aman user directory too!
[08:55] <wolf39us> he doesn't even have eth available :-/
[08:55] <Pranav>  ActionParsnip1 Can "xvidtune" help me adjust my screen position ?
[08:55] <theadmin> wolf39us: Well, realtek drivers are propertiary, they won't be included in the release.... I think
[08:56] <ActionParsnip1> Pranav: not used it dude, give it a go
[08:56] <heyboy> gratz474: http://pastebin.ca/1639563
[08:56] <ActionParsnip1> shavinder: ok but are there only 2 user names or are there many?
[08:56] <Billiard> shavinder: do your home directories have read permissions for all users?
[08:56] <heyboy> contents of my xorg.conf
[08:56] <wolf39us> ugh...I just want to get the wireless working...grr lol
[08:56] <shavinder> for the moment there are two
[08:56] <theadmin> wolf39us: Hm. Wonder if i can find drivers without this thing.
[08:57] <Gratz474> heyboy, http://pastebin.ca/1639565
[08:57] <Gratz474> maco, and its 5 years old not 6
[08:57] <theadmin> wolf39us: Look trough this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336338
[08:57] <maco> Gratz474: haha. my mom's 845 is 8 years old so i was estimating
[08:58] <maco> and my 945 is 3 years old
[08:58] <Gratz474> maco, it came out in late 04 i believe
[08:58] <shavinder> ActionParsnip1: yes for the moment there are 2
[08:58] <wolf39us> wrong chipset
[08:58] <wolf39us> I have a 8192e
[08:58] <Gratz474> maco, but computers all through early to mid 05 that were cheap had them
[08:58] <maco> Gratz474: the 865 or 810?
[08:58] <Gratz474> 865
[08:58] <theadmin> wolf39us: Still a realtek ;) so might help
[08:58] <chilli0> Hello , im getting this error when trying to add a gpg. http://pastebin.com/d3a9b3cd8 Help me please =D
[08:59] <Gratz474> maco, it actually runs compiz flawless
[08:59] <heyboy> gratz474: i need to restart my comp. let me see.
[08:59] <Gratz474> i have no complaints except thats its super old
[08:59] <maco> Gratz474: of course  it does :)
[08:59] <maco> Gratz474: the 845 runs compiz fine
[08:59] <Gratz474> maco, does it really?
[08:59] <Gratz474> maco, well it runned it better back in the days of xaa
[08:59] <Gratz474> but this is close enough
[08:59] <OltreIrc`11957> ciao
[09:00] <OltreIrc`11957> !addon
[09:00] <Gratz474> maco, although new comp next week
[09:01] <taurus> hali
[09:01] <chilli0> Hello , im getting this error when trying to add a gpg. http://pastebin.com/d3a9b3cd8 Help me please =D
[09:02] <taurus> van itt nagyon conkycube valaki?:D
[09:02] <taurus> ups sorry...:D
[09:02] <taurus> bb
[09:02] <theadmin> chilli0: If anyone would be able to help, then they'd do it. We don't know sorry. Taurus: English plz
[09:02] <chilli0> k theadmin
[09:03] <theadmin> chilli0: Ask guys on http://ubuntuforums.org , there are generally more people there :D
[09:03] <Gratz474> maco, why they could not have just left the old driver with xaa it beats me i think it was around 10 percent ish better
[09:03] <hey_boy> gratz474: still the same options (800x and 640x) higher resolutions not available
[09:03] <Gratz474> hey_boy, you are saving the xorg right?
[09:03] <hey_boy> yes
[09:04] <hey_boy> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:04] <Gratz474> hmmm
[09:04] <Gratz474> do this
[09:04] <theadmin> oh. Kept forgetting to ask :/ i can't get any resolution higher then quite dumb 1280x800... i'm used to higher resolution.
[09:04] <Gratz474> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep UXA
[09:05] <coz_> theadmin,  which video card?
[09:05] <Gratz474> hey_boy, run that see what it says
[09:05] <hey_boy> it says: (II) UXA(0): Driver registered support for the following operations:
[09:05] <theadmin> coz_: Uh, some ATI, can't be more precise. Can i somehow find that out?
[09:06] <coz_> theadmin,  yes in terminal   lspci | grep -i vga
[09:06] <theadmin> coz_: Looks like it's "01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]"
[09:06] <Gratz474> I can only and only will use a monitor in its native resolution
[09:06] <Gratz474> i can't stand stretched pixels
[09:07] <Gratz474> hey_boy, hmm
[09:07] <Gratz474> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep intel
[09:07] <hey_boy> gratz474: mine is - 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
[09:07] <Gratz474> see if you see a bunch of resolutions
[09:07] <coz_> theadmin,  ok  the bad part of this is that I have very little experience with ati cards...I am generally nvidia..however if no one else can help here I suggest going to the #ati  channel      if you are not usre how to get there...where you type here  just tyep     /join #ati
[09:08] <Gratz474> hey_boy, you should see a bunch of resolutions supported
[09:08] <theadmin> coz_ Thanks. I know how to join, by the way, how on earth would i get here then?
[09:08] <coz_> theadmin,  or go to #compiz and talk with  adamk   althought I think he is not logged on right now  or not at his system yet
[09:08] <hey_boy> gratz474: where
[09:09] <Gratz474> hey_boy, change intel in the xorg to maybe i810 if that does not work then i am not soo sure, as it always worked with intel for me but mine is like 5 months newer then taht one
[09:09] <hey_boy> ok
[09:10] <hey_boy> rebooting
[09:11] <theadmin> Oh. What is the difference between "shutdown" and "halt" terminal commands?
[09:12] <coz_> theadmin,   actually I believe they all transition to runlevel 6
[09:12] <theadmin> coz_ I think it's 0.
[09:12] <theadmin> 6 is reboot :D, 0 is shutdown.
[09:13] <coz_> theadmin,  you are correct  and answered your own qutestion :)
[09:13] <andrewfree> so I ran this command  "root@freekbox:/var/www# cp -Rf /var/www /backup"  and it looks like it worked when I viewed /backup but the command never returns a new prompt. It just looks like its working. but I know var/www is not bigger then 10MB so it cant take this long
[09:13] <coz_> question
[09:14] <jimbeam12> hey all wsup
[09:15] <coz_> theadmin,  I am going to guess that "halt" is an alias for reboot
[09:15] <icarus-c> woof?
[09:15] <theadmin> andrewfree: What on earth are you doing running stuff as root? It's dangerous.
[09:16] <theadmin> Oops
[09:16] <theadmin> Accidentally scrolled up (a bug in pidgin does it automatically when i minimize the window and maximize it back)
[09:17] <mikebeecham> hi guys..I've just installed chrome, and I opted to use the gtk theme for it...can anyone tell me why it's purple?  I dont have a stitch of purple in my gtk theme?
[09:17] <coz_> theadmin,    http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-and-ubuntu-linux-run-levels.html
[09:17] <CHESLYN> hi everyone
[09:17] <coz_> theadmin,  instead of typing it out
[09:17] <andrewfree> oh wow
[09:17] <mikebeecham> I want true gtk-compatability
[09:17] <coz_> theadmin,  so in this case halt is actually a shutdown
[09:17] <andrewfree> found the issue, friend hacked fucking apache folder and filled it with shit
[09:17] <andrewfree> so its huge now
[09:17] <FloodBot3> andrewfree: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:17] <prince_jammys> ah, friends.
[09:17] <CHESLYN> can ubuntu catch a virus?]
[09:18] <prince_jammys> !virus | CHESLYN
[09:18] <maco> CHESLYN: none are known to exist in the wild
[09:18] <coz_> CHESLYN,  anything is possible...but  probably unlikely
[09:18] <theadmin> CHESLYN: Thank god no, those stuffs are on windows.
[09:19] <maxagaz> empathy is sip compatible ?
[09:19] <wollex> moin moin
[09:19] <wollex> fc
[09:19] <theadmin> wollex: !?
[09:19] <coz_> CHESLYN,  however you can google  clamav  viruses ... they do have a virus report tools  and most likely a list of known viruses
[09:20] <suigeneris> !mp4
[09:20] <CHESLYN> so NO Finnish
[09:20] <prince_jammys> !fi
[09:21] <theadmin> CHESLYN: Guess you messed the window up? What finnish!?
[09:21] <theadmin> hm, i wonder...
[09:21] <theadmin> !ru
[09:21] <theadmin> weee we have russian support :D
[09:21] <coz_> CHESLYN,  two of my nephews actually caught a virus on their systems but both were servers and its likely they didnt set them up properly
[09:21] <Guest14354> hey  help plz every time i setup linux os called navynos it says kernel panic
[09:22] <theadmin> Guest14354: navynos has no relation to ubuntu imho.
[09:22] <Guest14354> hey  help plz every time i setup linux os called navynos it says kernel panic what does that mean
[09:22] <Guest14354> oh
[09:22] <Guest14354> srry
[09:22] <CHESLYN> coz: not on network, servers like perhaps setting a usb storage?
[09:23] <prince_jammys> Guest14354: wrong channel
[09:23] <suigeneris> can I use mencoder to convert avi to mp4?
[09:23] <prince_jammys> suigeneris: most likely yes.
[09:23] <coz_> Guest14354,  well I am not familiar with navinos  at all  none of us here will be able to help troubleshoot that...you go to the ##linux channel however
[09:24] <prince_jammys> suigeneris: you will find many how-tos involving either ffmpeg or mencoder (or both) by just googling  mencoder convert avi mp4
[09:24] <prince_jammys> suigeneris: you  may also use an app called ''avidemux''
[09:25] <coz_> suigeneris,  there is also an application named   Handbrake that does this
[09:25] <lorenzosu> How to search for a file recoursively in a directory and all subdirectories from the terminal?
[09:26] <prince_jammys> lorenzosu: the ''find'' command
[09:26] <chilli0> k theadmin
[09:26] <chilli0> Hello , im getting this error when trying to add a gpg. http://pastebin.com/d3a9b3cd8 Help me please =D
[09:26] <lorenzosu> prince_jammys: Thanks.
[09:27] <prince_jammys> lorenzosu: eg  find . -name 'foo.jpg'   (there are many filters you can use)
[09:27] <imyousuf> Anybody knows why my TimeZone got changed out of the blue, I am in  Bangladesh (+6/+7), it was +7 till yesterday and today after tzdata package was updated it is +6 :(, any body knows how I can revert back?
[09:27] <Nikko006> need som help with sound card in ubuntu
[09:27] <theadmin> chilli0: Did you modify /home/chilli0/.gnupg/gpg.conf in any way?
[09:27] <coz_> lorenzosu,  maybe grep -r -n name of file  /name/of/directory   ?
[09:27] <lorenzosu> prince_jammys: would find . also do subdirectories recursion?
[09:27] <chilli0> theadmin:  I kinda did, after i got this error i then changed it.
[09:28] <chilli0> theadmin:  Then i changed it back.
[09:28] <prince_jammys> lorenzosu: yes, by default.
[09:28] <prince_jammys> grep -r foo bar  searches the *contents* of files, not their filenames
[09:29] <Nikko006> can eny1 help me out? sound probz here.. tyed trobbleshooter.. diddent work
[09:29] <Gratz474> does this still work?
[09:29] <Gratz474> http://robrohan.com/2006/10/19/emacs-key-bindings-on-ubuntu/
[09:29] <jimbeam12> Failed to set MetaMode (1) 'CRT-0: nvidia-auto-select @1280x1024 +0+0, CRT-1: nvidia-auto-select @1280x1024 +1280+0' (Mode 2560x1024, id: 50) on X screen 0.
[09:29] <coz_> grep -r -n should work
[09:29] <theadmin> Nikko006: Go to system->Admininstration->Hardware drivers. See if drivers for your card are available
[09:29] <lorenzosu> prince_jammys: Is the -name option case sensitive?
[09:29] <prince_jammys> lorenzosu: use -iname
[09:30] <CHESLYN> so how do u check if your flesh,usb and data storage have a virus?
[09:30] <system4041> hey guys since updating kernal via auto update feature my 9.04 keeps crashing how do i remove this kernal via live cd im in a live session now
[09:30] <theadmin> CHESLYN: Go to avast.com and download their linux antivir.
[09:30] <coz_> CHESLYN,  is is very unlikely you have one
[09:30] <chilli0> theadmin:  I decided to just go and do it in root , so yeh.
[09:30] <coz_> CHESLYN,  what is happening with it that you suspedt a virus?
[09:30] <coz_> suspect :
[09:30] <theadmin> coz_ Yet, he might wish to check for WINDOWS viruses, just so he does not infect other comps
[09:31] <lorenzosu> prince_jammys: Thanks a lot. Turns out I was too superficial in reading the find man... had only seen the first bunch of options.
[09:31] <coz_> theadmin,  mm
[09:31] <mikebeecham> hi guys..I've just installed chrome, and I opted to use the gtk theme for it...can anyone tell me why it's purple?  I dont have a stitch of purple in my gtk theme?
[09:31] <system4041> how to rollback kernal via live cd
[09:31] <imyousuf> Anybody knows why my TimeZone got changed out of the blue, I am in  Bangladesh (+6/+7), it was +7 till yesterday and today after tzdata package was updated it is +6 :(, any body knows how I can revert back? I missed a meeting for this :( (rerun)
[09:32] <coz_> mikebeecham,   mm  not sure did you restart chrome?
[09:32] <theadmin> imyousuf: Just set the time to one hour back. Not a major problem.
[09:32] <mikebeecham> hey coz_yessir
[09:32] <Jordan_U> mikebeecham: Because it's still alpha :)
[09:32] <CHESLYN> coz: i have i virus on a data storage and it broke my pc on windows xp
[09:33] <theadmin> CHESLYN: It's not gonna break your linux. go to http://avast.com and download linux antivirus if you really wanna.
[09:33] <prince_jammys> lorenzosu: in ''less'', the pager used  by ''man'', use the slash ('/') to search. eg: /insensitive
[09:33] <coz_> CHESLYN,  ah I see  mm...well clamav might be able to to help  perhpas  rkhunter  maybe
[09:33] <imyousuf> theadmin: not so simple as I also have to check times of other places :(
[09:33] <system4041> hey guys since updating kernal via auto update feature my 9.04 keeps crashing how do i remove this kernal via live cd im in a live session now
[09:33] <imyousuf> I would actually love to revert to the older tzdata package theadmin
[09:33] <lorenzosu> prince_jammys: Yes thanks I know.. Just too much in a hurry as usual and simply skipped the more interesting options ;)
[09:33] <theadmin> imyousuf: Dunno if that's even possible
[09:33] <prince_jammys> lorenzosu: ah, ok.
[09:33] <imyousuf> hmm
[09:34] <misse-> sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata ? :o
[09:34] <theadmin> CHESLYN: http://www.avast.com/eng/avast-for-linux-workstation.html
[09:35] <lorenzosu> prince_jammys: Anyways thanks again.
[09:35] <prince_jammys> welcome
[09:35] <kraut> moin
[09:35] <system4041> hey guys since updating kernal via auto update feature my 9.04 keeps crashing how do i remove this kernal via live cd im in a live session now
[09:35] <CHESLYN> coz: thanks
[09:36] <CHESLYN> theadmin: thanks
[09:36] <Frickelpit> system4041: just boot with an older Kernel and remove the new one
[09:36] <system4041> or maybe this would be easier can i edit out the old kernal from boot list forcing grub to load te old kernal
[09:36] <system4041> i cant just boot old kernal
[09:37] <Xterm_> does anyone know where screenlets settings (screenlets plugins) configs is stored? I have a problem with some of my screenlets gets resetet to default settings from time to time..
[09:37] <system4041> Frickelpit: my pc linked to tv grub dont comeup no screen until login just says unreadable video format
[09:37] <system4041> so i have to edit out old kernal vialive cd
[09:37] <Xterm_> I would like to make a backup of my settings (like color and placement) so I can overwrite default settings
[09:38] <Pranav> How do I open rar file in Linux ?
[09:39] <Pranav> some software for .rar ?
[09:39] <coz_> Pranav,  right click the file   extract here   or make sure rar ins installed   sudo apt-get install rar
[09:39] <lucent> Pranav: you need to add software to handle rar
[09:39] <Jordan_U> mikebeecham: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=21065
[09:39] <imyousuf> URGENT: Anybody knows why my TimeZone got changed out of the blue, I am in  Bangladesh (+6/+7), it was +7 till yesterday and today after tzdata package was updated it is +6 :(, any body knows how I can revert back? I missed a meeting for this :( Users from my country need a urgent fix on this(rerun)
[09:40] <lucent> Pranav: there's 2 types of rar software that  I know about, one is free and only extracts, the other is non-libre and such
[09:40] <mikebeecham> Jordan_U - I have just added Chromium into my sources list, but it's asking me for a key...would you know anything about this?
[09:41] <lucent> Pranav: if you just want the short answer though, you need to install 'unrar' and then the normal program like the archive program run by Gnome will handle it
[09:41] <CHESLYN> guys can a CPU fan run a pc with out spinning?
[09:41] <Jordan_U> mikebeecham: Yes, you need to add the key for that ppa
[09:41] <lucent> CHESLYN: what ?
[09:41] <mikebeecham> Jordan_U yes mate, I got that bit :D.  I dont know where the key is, or how to add it.  I'm not experienced in this area
[09:41] <coz_> CHESLYN,  you mean can a system survive a fan that is not working?
[09:42] <system4041> how to edit grub in live cd
[09:42] <Jordan_U> mikebeecham: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa https://launchpad.net/+help/soyuz/ppa-sources-list.html
[09:42] <lucent> system4041: chroot is what you need to learn about
[09:42] <coz_> CHESLYN,  a pentium  can survive an amd will die  so the answer is no it will not run for long and certainly wont last
[09:42] <coz_> system4041,  hold on
[09:43] <system4041> lucent: i would jut like to edit grub so as to edit out the new krnal as it aint working for
[09:43] <system4041> coz_:  thanks
[09:43] <coz_> system4041,  well  in the live cd  open a terminal   sudo grub
[09:44] <mikebeecham> thanks Jordan_U
[09:44] <CHESLYN> coz_: no because i had a pentium that runs with out a fan on the CPU
[09:44] <coz_> system4041,   I am not sure about editing it this way though
[09:44] <system4041> coz_:  will that open my distros grub though
[09:44] <lucent> system4041: sorry that the other help isn't correct :P
[09:44] <coz_> system4041,  well not sure you could try  sudo  gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:44] <coz_> system4041,  but you can do that in the system itself ...edit the file...then  restart x
[09:45] <Frickelpit> system4041: you can edit the menu.lst of your System by mounting your System-Device to /mnt/sda and then editing with sudo nano /mnt/sda/boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:45] <lucent> system4041: I suggest that you find help that tells you how to mount your partition, and use 'chroot' command
[09:45] <coz_> system4041,  generally I use the live cd to reinstall grub
[09:45] <system4041> coz_:  the system is crashing only have access via live cd
[09:45] <coz_> system4041,  ok then maybe  reinstall grub
[09:45] <lucent> system4041: if the help does not mention those two things, it's not what ya want
[09:45] <Xterm_> does anyone know how to ignore leaves/joins and such notice in Xchat IRC client?
[09:45] <coz_> system4041,    sudo grub..... then    find  /boot/grub/stage1
[09:46] <lucent> Xterm_: /set
[09:46] <lucent> Xterm_: I think.
[09:46] <coz_> system4041,  then you will get a readout with (hdx,y)
[09:46] <Xterm_> lucent: can't I do it from config menu?
[09:46] <CHESLYN> coz_:so you saying a pentium 4 or 5 can run whit out it?
[09:46] <coz_> system4041,  then change that X,y according to the readout and   run   root  (hdx,Y_
[09:46] <lucent> Xterm_: whoops wrong IRC client, I forgot you said xchat, and I said help for irssi
[09:47] <coz_> system4041,  then  setup 9hd0)
[09:47] <lucent> Xterm_: sorry I don't use xchat
[09:47] <coz_> system4041,  then   quit and restart x
[09:47] <coz_> CHESLYN,  no I am saying the pentium can likely survive a broken fan for a short period of time
[09:47] <coz_> CHESLYN,  and amd processor will likely burn up
[09:48] <Misantropo> (2009-10-23 03:44:20) Misantropo: when i drag text from the pidgin conversation window to the pidgin message window it does not display it. But later when i maximize terminator the text is there, y guess the problem is gnome-do's docky
[09:48] <DJones> Xterm_: In xchat, right click on the channel name, from memory, its either an option on the menu that comes up, or a sub menu of the options that you can set to show/hide joins/parts
[09:48] <imyousuf> URGENT: Anybody knows why my TimeZone got changed out of the blue, I am in  Bangladesh (+6/+7), it was +7 till yesterday and today after tzdata package was updated it is +6 :(, any body knows how I can revert back? I missed a meeting for this :( Users from my country need a urgent fix on this (rerun)
[09:48] <system4041> coz_:  that aint working
[09:48] <lucent> imyousuf: I changed it
[09:48] <coz_> CHESLYN,  also an cpu without a fan that is working can...with the heat buildup...burn up other chips on the board
[09:48] <system4041> i just want to edit my grub file thats all
[09:49] <imyousuf> lucent: changed it means?
[09:49] <lucent> imyousuf: you repeated yourself a lot of times so I thought, maybe you forgot what time it was, and I changed your clock
[09:49] <coz_> system4041,   then I suggest going to  #grub channel  I am sure they can offer more options :)
[09:49] <system4041> how do i point the terminal to my grub file via live cd in order to edit it
[09:49] <geirha> imyousuf: Theer was a mention of bangladesh in the changelog: aptitude changelog tzdata
[09:49] <lucent> imyousuf: now your clock is set so you can move on, it is better if you can think of other people in your life who listen to you repeat yourself, um, repeatedly
[09:49] <system4041> coz_:  ill try #grub cheers
[09:50] <Frickelpit> system4041: I wrote it, just mount your System-Partition and move to the Path, where the menu.lst is.
[09:50] <imyousuf> lucent: Sorry but I can not follow you mean to say? changing the clock is *BUG*
[09:50] <imyousuf> the time zone in our country is UTC +7
[09:50] <coz_> system4041,  just in case    http://www.speedyshare.com/205453325.html
[09:51] <imyousuf> so lucent if the tzdata is updated as UTC +6 its a plain and simple *BUG*
 I got extra alerts -> blink in tray etc when I right click on channel name (in the left window of XChat?
[09:51] <CHESLYN> coz_: can you maybe say how long approximately does it take to burn the chip?
[09:51] <imyousuf> geirha: Any idea where I can find the changelog?
[09:51] <system4041> Frickelpit: where is the menu.lst
[09:51] <coz_> CHESLYN,  depends on the cpu and how long you run it without a fan
[09:51] <geirha> imyousuf: Type in a terminal: aptitude changelog tzdata
[09:51] <DJones> Xterm_: Give me a minute, I'm not using xchat, let me try and start it up and check on mine
[09:52] <Frickelpit> system4041: /boot/grub/menu.lst on your System-Partition
[09:52] <coz_> CHESLYN,  you are running the risk of overheating the    system and motherboard  exposing other chips to overheating and likely burning up
 will do... Take your time...
[09:52] <Lint01> how can I install grub from live CD? If it is possible, will it corrupt existing loader?
[09:53] <vtec_> i am looking to make my Ubuntu 9.04 windows transparent like in some pictures I have seen, I have compiz if that is helpful information...can anyone help? I'd like to have my windows open and see most of my desktop background at the same time
[09:53] <DeFi> hi everyone, does anyone know how i can set the same interface to be brought up multiple times at boot? (a PPP interface)?
[09:53] <imyousuf> Thanks geirha, yes there is a mention of it and I think its should fixed :)
[09:53] <coz_> CHESLYN,  although this is not a hardware troubleshooting  channel ....if the fan is not working...shut down the system...take out the fan.... get a bowl  deep enough to cover the fan   fill it wil alcohol and switch the fan around...there is a slight chance it is just dirty
[09:53] <system4041> Frickelpit: Could not save the file /media/disk/boot/grub/menu.lst.
[09:53] <geirha> imyousuf: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/456322
[09:53] <coz_> CHESLYN,  just be sure the fan is completely dry before turning on the system,
[09:54] <system4041> need to open it from terminal with sudo do i
[09:54] <DJones> Xterm_: On 8.04 with xchat 2.84, if i right click on the channel name I get show join/part messages as an option on the first menu that comes up
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> system4041: gksudo if you are using a gui app
[09:54] <Frickelpit> system4041: shure, you need sudo to save the file, just type sudo nano /media/disk/boot/grub/menu.lst
 Strange... Exakt WHERE do you right click on channelname?
[09:56] <DeFi> Does anyone know how i can set the same interface to be brought up multiple times at boot? (a PPP interface)
[09:56] <DJones> Xterm_: On the left tab, you should have the server list and channels that are open
[09:56] <lucent> DeFi: apparently not.
[09:56] <lucent> DeFi: keep trying though, you're alienating anyone who might have the expertise to answer your question.
[09:56] <DJones> Xterm_: perhaps tab is the wrong description, its the left window pane
[09:56] <Xterm_> If I click on channelname in upper left Window of Xchat I get a menu with Channelname in blue | extra alerts | settings | remove from favourites | detach | close
[09:56] <Lint01> how can I install grub from live CD, keeping existing boot loader?
[09:56] <DeFi> lucent: hopefully someone will, people are joining and leaving all the time... im not alienating anyone.
[09:57] <xinen007> ;-)
[09:57] <Xterm_> ok. Then we are probably loking at the same "server name" I would also describe it as the left pane
[09:57] <imyousuf> thanks a lot geirha, commenting on the issue
[09:57] <DJones> Xterm_: Try clicking on the extra alerts, it might be that which will bring up an extra menu
[09:57] <CHESLYN> coz_: you know what ? i had a pentium that was running with a broken fan for mouths now im not sure whats happening
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> Lint01: grub is a bootloader so by installing grub you will install grub over the existing boot loader
[09:58] <system4041> Frickelpit: ive edited out the new kernal gonna reboot now fingers crossed i get no more crashes
[09:58] <coz_> CHESLYN,  mm  well I suggest cleaning or replacing the fan
 Extra alerts -> Beep on message | Blink tray icon | Blink taskbar
[09:58] <Xterm_> Nothing else there
[09:58] <Frickelpit> system4041: good luck :)
[09:58] <DJones> Xterm_: What about if you click on settings
[09:59] <bazhang> Xterm_, right click channel settings
[09:59] <Lint01> all bootloaders can call another one way or another. Will grub backup present bootsector upon installation?
[09:59] <bazhang> Xterm_, hide join/part messages
[09:59] <DJones> Xterm_: what version of xchat are you using? click on help and about
[09:59] <CHESLYN> coz_: but i think it can still go for mouths or years like this ....mm wow ne
[10:00] <bazhang> CHESLYN, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:00] <muszek> hi... a mouse cursor is invisible (it works as usual, only I can't see it) after todays updates.  any hints?  I'm on jaunty.
 Oh.. there it is! Thanks! I must gone blind there!
[10:00] <DJones> Xterm_: At least you got there
[10:00] <Xterm_> now the channel calmed down :-)
[10:00] <CHESLYN> baxhang: thanks gut i'm Finnish
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> Lint01: dont think so
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> muszek: are you using an nvidia gfx card?
[10:01] <bazhang> CHESLYN, this is ubuntu support; for random chat (ie hardware, etc) #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:01] <muszek> ActionParsnip1: nope, intel x3100
[10:01] <Lint01> ok, so how to install it anyway?
[10:02] <CHESLYN> baxhang: i know toe
[10:02] <ActionParsnip1> !grub | Lint01
[10:02] <Xterm_> Ok.. my other question is about screenlets. I autostart thre scrennlets. But from time to time some of them gets its settings reverted to default. I have looked in .screenlets (because thats the place where they got imported to) but I can't find any config data (like placements, color etc) for them there. Where does this kind of data gets stored?
[10:03] <muszek> it happened right after dist-upgrade ("partial upgrade" in update-manager's terminology).  I rebooted (kernel was upgraded) and the cursor was gone.  I rebooted again just to make sure it's not a one-time thing.
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> muszek: is it the same with all mouse themes?
[10:04] <muszek> wow... it just magically re-appeared (I didn't do anything)
[10:04] <system4041> woo it worked
[10:05] <muszek> ActionParsnip1: I haven't gotten to changing mouse themes (although I changed the "generic" themes in hope mouse theme is reloaded as well)
[10:08] <icarus-c> in bash, how to  assign the output of "  echo `date -r foobar.file +%d` - 7 |bc  "  to a variable ABC ?
[10:10] <cesare> ciao a tutti
[10:10] <bazhang> !it | cesare
[10:10] <cesare> ok grazie
[10:10] <[dmp]> icarus-c: VAR=$(echo `date -r foobar.file +%d` - 7 |bc)
[10:11] <icarus-c> [dmp]: thanks, i just got that
[10:15] <srinath> I recently installed Ubuntu 9.04
[10:15] <srinath> all the things r working except sound
[10:15] <srinath> so can anyone help me with that?
[10:15] <etfb> srinath: A common complaint (possibly the commonest, though I thought it had gotten better).  What have you tried so far?
[10:16] <srinath> tried downloading and installing some alsa drivers
[10:16] <srinath> but did not worked
[10:16] <lowlycoder> i need something to carry my wallet & keys while I run (shorts have no pockets); and I don't want to wear a fanny pack; is there anything that wraps around the arm instead?
[10:16] <manolo> hi to all. I'm creating a new presentation with images and notes but
[10:16] <etfb> Did you pray to the divine Google for guidance in your hour of darkness?
[10:16] <henryC> I've been running ubuntu 9.04 on vmware (host is XP).  After upgrade and reboot, I hit the same problem as this guy in the following link.  Any advice?? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8150525
[10:16] <manolo> i'm unable to see them
[10:17] <manolo> (sorry, rewriting) hi to all. I'm creating a new presentation with images and notes but i'm unable to see them
[10:17] <Xterm_> srinath don't meen to sound laike a dumbas but have you tried to google your soundcard (or laptop model if it's a laptop) + ubuntu... Usualy you get good hits and realy good tutorials.. I have solved all my sound problems like that
[10:17] <srinath> help needed
[10:18] <etfb> srinath: I agree with Xterm_ - that's how I found solutions (or, in the case of the Acer laptop I had, found out that there ARE no solutions).
[10:18] <manolo_2> (sorry, rewriting) hi to all. I'm creating a new presentation with images and notes but i'm unable to see them
[10:18] <lucent> lowlycoder: uh, Ubuntu 9.12 is due next year and includes support for fantom sewing machines that can order doublesided velcro when you command it to with your voice
[10:18] <etfb> manolo_2: Don't repeat yourself.  Nobody's answering because nobody (yet) understands your question well enough.  Explain it a different way.
[10:20] <manolo_2> etfb sorry, I was not spamming... I just had some kind of error message as (NickServ registration) so that I thought my messages was not sent
[10:20] <etfb> manolo_2: Fair enough; my apologies.  It looks like the channel had some kind of a hiccup just a second ago.
[10:21] <manolo_2> etfb: thanks for advicing that my question was not clear. Can I make it clearer? which part is not?
[10:21] <etfb> manolo_2: So: explain.  What do you mean when you say you can't see anything?  Screen is blank, program is not running, eyes have been poked out...?
[10:21] <hey_boy> How do I install proprietary drivers for my VGA (onboard Intel 845)
[10:21] <etfb> manolo_2: Also: what software are you using?
[10:22] <lucent> hey_boy: good luck finding any?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> hey_boy: i suggest this if you are using jaunty: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
[10:22] <lucent> Intel drivers are open source and not proprietary
[10:22] <lucent> am I mistaken?
[10:22] <hey_boy> I am on Karmic
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> hey_boy: the intel drivers are open
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> hey_boy: then you are in the wrong channel
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> hey_boy: /j #ubuntu+1
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> hey_boy: your release isnt supported here
[10:23] <etfb> hey_boy: Also: take a step back (when talking on the other channel) and explain _why_ you want to do that.
[10:23] <manolo_2> etfb: Using OO.org 3.1.1 build 9420 on Ubuntu Jaunty. The problem is that I insert IMMAGES and NOTES but I?M UNABLE to see them when I run the presentation pressing F5 key
[10:24] <manolo_2> s/I?M/I'M
[10:24] <etfb> hey_boy: It's like: you're trying to cook a cake, and so you go and ask "how do I set my flamethrower to 350 degrees?"  when really you should explain what you're doing and people will gently suggest you use an oven instead...
[10:24] <indus> hey_boy: i will help u
[10:24] <etfb> manolo_2: Do you see placeholders? What about other stuff - text and so on?
[10:25] <manolo_2> etfb: I just see a white page or a page with the template background, just in case
[10:25] <manolo_2> etfb: I do see text in pages
[10:25] <lucent> etfb: explain FAIL. An obvious use of a flamethrower is to bake a cake, but those bastards won't release the source code and this is not the place to discuss licensing issues ;)
[10:25] <etfb> manolo_2: Might be worth asking on an OOO channel.  Does anyone know of one on freenode?  (Loading the channel list takes ages...)
[10:26] <hey_boy> indus: On Karmic, system with Onboard Intel845 VGA, resolutions above 800x are not available.
[10:26] <etfb> lucent: Remind me to delete any birthday party invitations from you...
[10:26] <ActionParsnip1> indus: karmic isnt supported here
[10:26] <lucent> etfb: can't delete, it's a netapp trade secret
[10:26] <indus> ActionParsnip1: iam supporting it
[10:26]  * lucent ba-dum-spcha
[10:27] <indus> hey_boy: ok lets go #ubuntu+1
[10:27] <ActionParsnip1> indus: then i'd take it to +1 as it is offtopic
[10:27] <jo__> hello: an ubuntu server, five IPs with virtual interfaces configured like eth1:N in /etc/network/interfaces. Everything works very well except that on reboot I have to do a manually /etc/init.d/networking restart. What could be the most elegant solution for this problem?
[10:27] <etfb> indus: hey_boy is now on the ubuntu+1 channel, so you can probably pitch in and chat with him/her there.
[10:27] <manolo_2> etfb: sorry... I didn't realize it was not an open office channel... The openoffice "gethelp" page led me here... https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+sources/openoffice.org/+gethelp sorry and thanks
[10:27] <ActionParsnip1> jo__: could add the command in /etc/rc.local
[10:28] <lucent> jo__: rc.local makes sense
[10:28] <jo__> ActionParsnip1: but I thought there is auto eth1:N for
[10:29] <ActionParsnip1> jo__: maybe it needs the extra nudge, rc.local is processed last so should fix you up automagically
[10:29] <jo__> doesnt it work for virtual devices?
[10:29] <jo__> or do I misunderstand?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip1> jo__: auto ethX:Y   means the device should be up on boot
[10:30] <ActionParsnip1> jo__: i am unsure for virtuals
[10:30] <srinath> someone please help me with sound
[10:30] <ActionParsnip1> jo__: but if the command works then i'd just run with it
[10:30] <jo__> ActionParsnip1:, lucent: thanks, I will put it in rc.local.
[10:31] <lucent> srinath: try to be more vague
[10:31] <srinath> how to install sound drivers?
[10:31] <lucent> srinath: install Ubuntu. Sound drivers are included.
[10:31] <srinath> I searched Ubuntu and google
[10:31] <ActionParsnip1> srinath: can you provice the output of: lspci | grep -i audio
[10:31] <srinath> went to some sites
[10:31] <srinath> downloaded few alsa drivers
[10:31] <srinath> tried installing
[10:31] <srinath> but still no sound
[10:31] <lucent> srinath: if it doesn't work, then it's not going to work. that's simple.
[10:31] <indus> srinath: output aplay -l
[10:32] <iceroot> i have a directory called >> logfile 2>&1  how to delete it? rm -rf
[10:32] <theadmin> A kernel upgrade?... Last one completely messed the GRUB up.
[10:32] <lucent> iceroot: niiiiiice
[10:32] <srinath> ok
[10:32] <iceroot> lucent: yes :)
[10:32] <srinath> it says this
[10:32] <srinath> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[10:32] <lucent> iceroot: I should invite you to all of my parties
[10:32] <ActionParsnip1> iceroot: sure, if you dont need any of its sub directories
[10:33] <iceroot> ActionParsnip1: rm -rf tells, its a directory....
[10:33] <theadmin> I'll have to modify /boot/grub/menu.lst manually after every kernel upgrade or is it a bug?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip1> iceroot: thats fine, it will delete the directory for you
[10:33] <srinath> tell me now
[10:33] <lucent> iceroot: the double-dash tells commands to ignore trailing flags, and then wrap everything in quotes and escape the question marks
[10:33] <srinath> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[10:33] <iceroot> ActionParsnip1: rm -rf tells me it cant be deleted, because its a directory
[10:33] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: sounds like a bug to me
[10:33] <iceroot> rm -rf >\>\>\ logfile\ 2\>\&1/
[10:33] <orion_> help
[10:34] <ActionParsnip1> iceroot: can you delete it in nautilus?
[10:34] <orion_> rrors were encountered while processing:
[10:34] <orion_>  /var/cache/apt/archives/splashy_0.3.13-5ubuntu1_i386.deb
[10:34] <orion_> ?//
[10:34] <lucent> iceroot: i.e.  rm -- "rm -fr directory >> thing\? to delete\"it\'s true\""
[10:34] <FloodBot3> orion_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:34] <lucent> iceroot: rmdir if removing an empty directory
[10:34] <theadmin> ActionParsnip1: Seems to keep old kernel in list... I have to remove it with gedit.
[10:34] <iceroot> ActionParsnip1: only have a shell
[10:34] <ActionParsnip1> orion_: can you use a pastebin to provide the whole error and NOT flood the chanel. I think I know where its going
[10:34] <srinath> hello lucent
[10:34] <srinath> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JD/DO (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[10:34] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: then uninstall the old kernel
[10:35] <benchik> hello. after upgrading 8.04.3 LTS from kernel 2.6.24-24 to 2.6.24-25 my sound isn't working. please help!
[10:35] <iceroot> ActionParsnip1: ah ok rm -rf "the directory" was working
[10:35] <ActionParsnip1> iceroot: cool
[10:35] <theadmin> ActionParsnip1:... wait... It KEEPS the old kernel!? What... the... hell... for!?
[10:35] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: as you install more new kernels you ill keep the old
[10:35] <etfb> theadmin: Because nobody's perfect.  Not even the Ubuntu testers.
[10:35] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: you can see what you have with: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[10:35] <karmic> how to flush dns cache?
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> karmic: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:36] <karmic> ok
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> karmic: if you run dnsmasq you will need to restart that too
[10:37] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: the old kernels are kept so if you install a new kernel and it is bad then you can still boot to the original
[10:37] <and> hi all
[10:37] <theadmin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/299666/
[10:37] <theadmin> That's what i have.
[10:37] <Dioshorux> Holas
[10:37] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: it is not sufficient to simply remove the old kernels from grub, the old kernels are still taking up ~120Mb a kernel
[10:38] <Dioshorux> me aparece este error amigos
[10:38] <etfb> I just got a new laptop battery, and it's still not quite calibrated properly.  It thinks it has 20% charge left, say, when really it's got 1%.  Thus, lots of sudden switch-offs.  How do I reset its "memory"?
[10:38] <lucent> computer janitor is a nice way to remove old kernels
[10:38] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: thats fine, you have 2 kernels
[10:38] <theadmin> ... i only need latest.
[10:38] <theadmin> "15" one works fine
[10:38] <lucent> etfb: sounds like battery fail or bug in reporting
[10:39] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: then run: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.6.28-11-generic; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[10:39] <Dioshorux> amigos me aparece ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.101 port 2222: Connection refused
[10:39] <lucent> etfb: you can set the lower limit for the percentage though
[10:39] <etfb> lucent: No, it's pretty normal for a new battery.  It's getting better over time.
[10:39] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: this will also autoremve it from grub during the process
[10:39] <theadmin> ActionParsnip1: Well, i have a new kernel upgrade loading in. Will say if it works fine and then see how to remove old ones
[10:40] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: the 2nd command removes all the modules and header files for the kernel you just removed
[10:40] <etfb> lucent: How do you mean?  As in, set the warning limit?
[10:40] <lucent> etfb: yeah
[10:40] <lucent> etfb: makes sense, doesn't it?
[10:40] <lucent> it's just a number, don't care what it is
[10:40] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: you get people with netbooks on 4Gb HDDs with like 6 kernels and they wonder why they gots no space
[10:41] <etfb> lucent: Trouble is that it's adapting: suppose there's a "real" amount of charge that we'll call X.  Today, it might think that's 20%.  Tomorrow, it will think it's 15%.
[10:41] <theadmin> ActionParsnip1: Well, i'd expect an upgrade to remove the old version of any soft.
[10:41] <lucent> etfb: if you don't want my help, ok.
[10:41] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: its not an upgrade, its a seperate app
[10:42] <theadmin> ...then why does it show up in upgrade manager!?
[10:42] <etfb> lucent: Well, it wasn't quite the answer to the question I asked, is all.  I was kind of hoping there was a way to force the battery to reassess its own assumptions...
[10:42] <karmic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/299670/
[10:42] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: as it is a later version number but a kernel is a very key piece of softare so if you upgraded it to be the only kernel and you didnt have something to roll back yo you would be heavily screwed
[10:43] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: its not some high level crappy inconsequential app like a browser
[10:43] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: so they are kept
[10:43] <theadmin> ActionParsnip1: Damn. Can i opt out of kernel upgrades for a while somehow?
[10:44] <etfb> theadmin: Indeed - ActionParsnip1 is 100% correct (my battery would say 140% correct).  One thing that breaks a lot is suspend/resume.  To debug it, it's useful to have old kernels around.
[10:44] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: sure you can tell apt to lock the version number and the package will be ignored
[10:44] <theadmin> ActionParsnip1: Please tell me how.
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-pin
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: not something ive done but i know it exists
[10:46] <Lint01> is there a PDF viewer for Gnome, except Evince?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: you can override it with --ignore-hold
[10:46] <ActionParsnip1> Lint01: acroread
[10:47] <tapas> hi, i have a dell laptop here and sometimes clicks just don't get through anymore
[10:47] <nigel> hello
[10:47] <ActionParsnip1> Lint01: http://www.adobe.com/go/EN_US-H-GET-READER
[10:47] <tapas> it seems as if a mouse button release [on the touchpad buttons] gets lost
[10:47] <tapas> then one window is stuck with the focus
[10:47] <tapas> and nothing really works anymore
[10:47] <tapas> even alt-tab, etc..
[10:47] <theadmin> so...
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> tapas: are you running desktop effects?
[10:48] <tapas> ActionParsnip1: nope. i think i turned them off
[10:48] <tapas> lemme restart X11 to check
[10:49] <tapas> ActionParsnip1: visual effects: none
[10:49] <tapas> they only ever bother me.. so i turn them off instinctively ;)
[10:50] <ActionParsnip1> me too
[10:50] <ActionParsnip1> that stuf can also interrupt mouse input, very annoying
[10:50] <nigel> i have an opensolairs nfs server, but for the life of me I cant get the ubuntu to client to connect
[10:50] <tapas> yeah.. but now i have just normal gnome, no effects..
[10:50] <ActionParsnip1> tapas: does the mouse click create an event in xev?
[10:50] <theadmin> Like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/299678/ ?
[10:50] <tapas> ActionParsnip1: i can't check when it's stuck..
[10:50] <tapas> because i can't get focus to xev..
[10:51] <Avash> !why
[10:51] <ActionParsnip1> theadmin: never dont it dude so yuo know more than me
[10:51] <tapas> and also it happens usually after like 1/2 hour of use
[10:51] <ActionParsnip1> tapas: then when it happens quickly open a terminal and run: dmesg |  tail
[10:51] <tapas> ActionParsnip1: ok..
[10:51] <ActionParsnip1> tapas: should give a clue
[10:51] <tapas> maybe i find something in /var/log/dmesg
[10:51] <Avash> ! why
[10:52] <tapas> what should i look for?
[10:52] <Avash> ! botabuse ubottu
[10:52] <tapas> ActionParsnip1: i guess it's probably a bug in the input driver missing a button release event
[10:52] <ActionParsnip1> tapas: just anything about mousey stuff or any hardware being disconnected
[10:52] <Avash> ! botabuse ubottu
[10:52] <mdcastro> j/ #ubuntu-br
[10:52] <tapas> ActionParsnip1: mouse movement still works though..
[10:52] <tapas> ActionParsnip1: ok, will take a look
[10:52] <mdcastro> join #ubuntu-br
[10:52] <tapas> brb
[10:52] <Avash> !botabuse Avash
[10:52] <ActionParsnip1> tapas: worth a look, strange it still moves
[10:52] <ActionParsnip1> !botabuse | Avash
[10:52] <tapas> ActionParsnip1: good call..
[10:53] <Avash> !botabuse | ubottu
[10:53] <alabd> Good day everyone , Is there any ubuntu/debian-base tutorial that some parts of it can be used in relicensed typographic book  ?
[10:53] <tapas> ActionParsnip1: one moment.. brb
[10:54] <ActionParsnip1> !ot | alabd
[10:54] <tapas> ActionParsnip1: there's a msg about sync lost of the DualPoint Touchpad
[10:54] <tapas> ActionParsnip1: will come here from laptop, so i can c&p one of the lines
[10:55] <tapas> ok
[10:55] <tapas> [66755.956829] psmouse.c: DualPoint TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 5
[10:55] <ActionParsnip1> tapas: sounds like a start
[10:55] <Avash> !fedora
[10:55] <Avash> !ok fine. thanks!
[10:55] <tapas> ActionParsnip1: then later there's messages about the drivers resyncing..
[10:55] <alabd> ActionParsnip1: where can this commands be found ? like ot , .. ?
[10:56] <Avash> !botabuse | Avash
[10:56] <tapas> ActionParsnip1: oh found a bug report in the net, too..
[10:56] <tapas> seems to be an issue introduced with 2.6.29
[10:56] <tapas> hrmps
[10:56] <ActionParsnip1> tapas: the wonders of dmesg :)
[10:56] <tapas> ActionParsnip1: yeah i wonder why i failed to look there this time..
[10:57] <ActionParsnip1> alabd: how do you mean?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip1> tapas: can't see for looking dude
[10:57] <ActionParsnip1> tapas: no biggy
[10:57] <alabd> ActionParsnip1: commands like ot
[10:57] <tapas> ActionParsnip1: so i wonder if there's a workaround.. will do some more digging
[10:57] <ActionParsnip1> alabd: here is ubottu's brain: http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[10:59] <tapas> ActionParsnip1: also i wonder if xorg might handle the error more gracefully ;)
[10:59] <Avash> ! bots
[10:59] <Avash> how to make bots
[11:00] <ActionParsnip1> tapas: you could use xorg.conf to set options so it doesnt choke
[11:00] <ActionParsnip1> Avash: thats offtopic here also
[11:01] <tapas> ActionParsnip1: yeah, i guess.. finding out what options are relevant, etc, might be quite an undertaking.. found a hint that it might have to do with simultaneous use of trackpoint and touchpad [which can happen easily accidentally]
[11:01] <tapas> so i'll see whether i can disable the touchpad
[11:01] <tapas> the damn thing annoys me anyways
[11:02] <alabd> #ubuntu-offtopic | alabd
[11:02] <alabd> ActionParsnip1: how did you write that ot command  ?
[11:02] <Xtreme_Great> markus_mpd: I got a problem.
[11:02] <oversize> hi, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome says OpenChrom is installed by default, but booting the 9.04 Desktop CD just gives me a flickering screen. Will the openchrome driver be loaded or do i have to use the alternate CD and manually install openchrome ?
[11:02] <ActionParsnip1> alabd: you use an exclamation point at the start
[11:02] <ActionParsnip1> alabd: !ot
[11:03] <anvo> How can I find the "doc root" in my Ubuntu?
[11:04] <alabd> ActionParsnip1: so where can command like ot be found ? in that link for ubuntu-offline has not said  anthing such ot
[11:04] <Xtreme_Great> চূপ।
[11:05] <pha> hey there - I am currently trying to fix acpi - but it keeps giving me problems.
[11:05] <oversize> anvo: do you mean the official Documentation or the DocumentRoot of the apache webserver ?  try /usr/share/doc  for some (installed) documentation
[11:05] <pha> sudo /etc/init.d/acpid stop -> sudo dpkg --configure -a ..... but then I get dpkg: status database area is locked by another process.
[11:05] <Lint01> ehem and why should I to install 150MB Adobe Reader for PDF documents?
[11:06] <nabla> becauce adobe loves you? :D
[11:06] <anvo> oversize: not exactly... I'm trying to install phpmyadmin and it asks to unzip into "doc root"...
[11:06] <pha> it was a fresh install, and everything seems to be working fine - except that.
[11:06] <nabla> well no sorry.. to be reasonable.. the reader has the best compability with obscure PDF stuff
[11:06] <oversize> anvo: ok which should be the DocumentRoot setting of your webserver
[11:07] <Lint01> PDF is not 'obscure
[11:07] <Lint01> , it's a standard
[11:07] <nabla> but its adobes standard
[11:07] <anvo> oversize: I have installed Apache2 via LAMP...
[11:07] <oversize> anvo: see /etc/apache2/sites-available/default for the default vhost
[11:07] <nabla> I dont like the reader either.. awfully bloated piece of software.. but all other i tried once in a while couldnt read a pdf
[11:07] <anvo> oversize: OK
[11:08] <oversize> anvo: in it there should be a Setting: "DocumentRoot" pointing to e.g. /var/www
[11:09] <oversize> anvo: and <Directory ""> Setting with the same path, and thats where you unpack phpmyadmin into, but use a folder for phpmyadmin like  /var/www/myadmin  ... which should make your myadmin available at http://localhost/myadmin
[11:09] <Xtreme_Great> তোমরা কী বলছো?
[11:10] <Xtreme_Great> উবুন্টু শবার শেরা!
[11:10] <anvo> oversize: OK! So you mean, I should extract the tarball into /var/www exactly as it is? I mean, the tarball contains a folder, should I untar the folder, or its contents?
[11:10] <oversize> the folder
[11:11] <anvo> oversize: OK
[11:11] <oversize> so you end up with the sources of myadmin in /var/www/myadmin
[11:11] <oversize> you can also unpack them in your home dir an move the folder to /var/www
[11:11] <StresS> hello , where is the french chat please ?
[11:12] <oversize> #ubuntu-fr
[11:12] <StresS> thanks you :)
[11:12] <StresS> good bye :)
[11:13] <Xtreme_Great> Guys, is there any ubuntu bengali channel?
[11:13] <Xtreme_Great> I gotta check this SCIM thing.
[11:13] <pha> hey...
[11:13] <pha> can someone look @ this for me please -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/299692/
[11:14] <pha> would appreciate it.
[11:14] <suigeneris> is there any way to remove the word Avidemux from the title of the video files I converted?
[11:14] <oversize> pha: you have acpi enabled in bios, right ?
[11:15] <pha> yes, I just checked in the synaptic manager.
[11:17] <pha> only one that isn't is acpidump.
[11:18] <pha> should I mark them for re-installation and see how that goes?
[11:18] <oversize> pha, yes, why not. but check in bios that acpi is enabled. synaptic manager is not able  (afaik) to alter bios settigns
[11:20] <pha> yeah, i'm getting this -> E: acpid: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 / E: acpi-support: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[11:23] <oversize> pha: have you tried:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure acpi-support ?
[11:25] <c0l2e> /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume   what UUID should I insert here? the  / or the SWAP ??
[11:25] <pha> yeah mate -> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: acpi-support is broken or not fully installed.
[11:26] <buzzomatic> I've got this strange problem ... whenever I'm working in GEdit or Inkscape some keystrokes or mouse clicks seem to get repeated
[11:26] <pha> I can't believe this has turned out to be harder than a gentoo distro... and everyone says ubuntu is the easiest of them all... lol
[11:26] <chrisa_> hey  i'm a new ubuntu user and confused... my sound just stopped working  for no reason i am aware of
[11:26] <buzzomatic> So I'll press Ctrl+Z to undo the last change, only it undoes 20 or so, or I'll press the down key to move an object and it'll jump half way across the page.
[11:27] <boulbul> hello, I am having a lot of trouble under ubuntu 8.04 and debian lenny..when browsing, it is too slow..I have checked every thing but can not find any process that is slowing the system...I was told about IPV6 I have disabled it but still slow...any one experiencing such a problem ...please help
[11:27] <buzzomatic> Any thoughts? :S
[11:27] <oversize> pha: you just have different problems with every operating systems  :)
[11:27] <chrisa_> hmmm...is this a ubuntu venting room? :)
[11:28] <pha> lol - this is true.
[11:30] <ActionParsnip1> boulbul: tried a different browser?
[11:30] <diogo_79> hi
[11:30] <deo> Chrisa: where you in a browser at the time?
[11:30] <oversize> pha - anyhow, ensure acpi is enable in the bios, and then reinstall acpi-support
[11:30] <oversize> btw. what version are you using
[11:31] <user1> .
[11:31] <diogo_79> guys i have ati graphics card on ubuntu 9.04 and i have reinstall the open source driver ati but when i log on my screen appears with low color and all scramble dont know what to do next
[11:32] <tester_> !ot | alabd
[11:32] <diogo_79> my xorg.conf file doest have anything but i think the system autodetect the video card settings right?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip1> diogo_79: hal detects stuff as best it can
[11:33] <ActionParsnip1> diogo_79: you can still use the file though
[11:34] <diogo_79> my radeon card is x1950 pro
[11:34] <pha> oversize, one problem is mate -> this is a ovh server.
[11:34] <diogo_79> can i put this settings list in this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver in my xorg.conf file for my ati radeon x1950
[11:34] <buzzomatic> Anyone? Having half your work destroyed because of a random Ctrl+Z is really damn annoying
[11:35] <pha> 8.04 LTS 32, custom kernel -> 2.6.27.10-grs
[11:35] <BlackDogg> hello
[11:36] <pha> all I can check bios wise is vendor, version & release date via dmidecode.
[11:37] <oversize> pha, what is ovh ? :)
[11:37] <oversize> ah, well ... bad
[11:37] <oversize> then i am through with my ideas ..
[11:38] <pha> nah, that's fine - you have been great help mate, thank-you very much for taking the time to answer me.
[11:41] <shyam_k> i have something weird with pm-suspend and pm-hibernate. I have given pm-suspend as lid close action for acpi, so everytime i close the lid of my laptop, it suspends the system.
[11:41] <shyam_k> Lately as i restart a suspended system, it goes back to suspend as soon as the system is loaded, which is avoided only if i constantly keyboard interrupts as it wakes up..
[11:42] <shyam_k> now interestingly as i give pm-hibernate on a root prompt, it suspends the system!
[11:43] <shyam_k> hmm now i remember that previously pm-hibernate was failing to regain the system, it just reboots as normal..
[11:44]  * shyam_k have to go and does halt..
[11:44] <nigel> hmmm
[11:44] <nigel> whats wrong with ubuntus NFS?
[11:45] <nigel> I cant mount a share from ubuntu, but I can mount the same share from fedora / centos
[11:45] <boulbul> ActionParsnipl: it is the same thing with any browser, or any software that needs to go online...with skype 4 example it take about 10 mins before it can see who is online
[11:46] <boulbul> ActionParsnipl: by the way, I got the same result with different versions installed on different laptops
[11:46] <MaT-dg> I booted my desktop from a livecd. The machine has 2 harddrives in RAID 0. Ubuntu can't find the volume.
[11:47] <sadsadsad> Hello people how do i extract the word "Cricket is not good from the string "fsaasd:x:671:505:Cricket Is Not Good:/home/games/fma:/bin/bash" usinf cut command `cut -f5 -d":" gives only Cricket .
[11:48] <jrib> sadsadsad: cut should work (wfm)
[11:49] <sadsadsad> but it gives only the first word of 5th field
[11:49] <jrib> sadsadsad: not here
[11:49] <sadsadsad> I want even the shite spaces
[11:49] <jrib> sadsadsad: pastebin what you are doing
[11:49] <sadsadsad> Showed you in the example
[11:49] <jrib> sadsadsad: http://paste.ubuntu.com/299712/
[11:49] <jrib> there's a 3 at the end of the first line...
[11:51] <jrib> sadsadsad: (so pastebin like I did what you are running and the output)
[11:51] <sadsadsad> just a line and i want to Ya
[11:51] <sadsadsad> I got the output
[11:51] <sadsadsad> No idea why it does not work for me
[11:51] <sadsadsad> once more i will try
[11:52] <tonyyarusso> sadsadsad: works fine for me as well...
[11:52] <sadsadsad> Yeah for mr too
[11:53] <proby> hi guys
[11:53] <sadsadsad> i did     name=`echo $linia|cut -f5 -d:` and did echo $name and it shows all words in diff lines
[11:54] <sadsadsad> try this guys http://paste.ubuntu.com/299716/
[11:54] <Vaga> I have a realy strange problem with the latest ubuntu beta. The end key dos not work(home dos for those who thinks I should google it), and in vi, if I press END, 5 characters forward are switched from lover to upper case.... O.o
[11:54] <Xterm_> Does anybody know where screeenlets saves plugin configs (like color, placement, other properties for a screenlet plugin)? I have looked in ~/.screenlets but it contains the plugin but no userconfig?
[11:54] <jrib> sadsadsad: I don't have a "test" file like you do
[11:55] <tonyyarusso> sadsadsad: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/001
[11:55] <sadsadsad> the test file in my case contains "fsaasd:x:671:505:Cricket Is Not Good:/home/games/fma:/bin/bash"
[11:55] <tonyyarusso> Vaga: Karmic questions in #ubuntu+1
[11:55] <frogzoo> "what is the sound of one hand clapping"
[11:55] <frogzoo> oh, #ubuntu+1, right
[11:56] <Vaga> tonyyarusso: thanx :)
[11:56] <proby> i have some problems with my ubuntu the xserver dont start i have removed some pakages i want to know if it is any way to update the sys with live CD [i tried apt-get install update and apt-get kde]
[11:56] <jrib> sadsadsad: if you replace the contents of your for loop with just "echo $linia", you'll see the problem.  tonyyarusso gave you the solution
[11:57] <proby> i have some problems with my ubuntu the xserver dont start i have removed some pakages i want to know if it is any way to update the sys with live CD [i tried apt-get install update and apt-get kde]
[11:57] <proby> any help pls
[11:58] <Jejege> After Ubuntu's last update sound is very strong! How can I fix it?
[11:58] <tonyyarusso> proby: Yes, but you would have to use chroot to load yourself into the on-disk system.
[11:59] <tonyyarusso> proby: But if X is your only issue, you should be able to reboot into "recovery mode" instead and run updates from there.
[11:59] <proby> i do this
[12:01] <suigeneris> !ffmpeg
[12:02] <Lint01> is there some usable text-mode editor available?
[12:03] <sadsadsad> I dont understand why the command cat test gives 1 line output and echo $ linia gives 5 lines
[12:03] <aneesh1> Lint01: Use gedit
[12:03] <tonyyarusso> Lint01: nano is easy to learn.
[12:03] <tonyyarusso> aneesh1: text-mode he said
[12:03] <Lint01> gedit is wonderful, but it's for X
[12:03] <aneesh1> then it is better to use vi
[12:04] <tonyyarusso> sadsadsad: because your for loop is splitting it up
[12:04] <jrib> sadsadsad: because for reads in one WORD at a time
[12:04] <Lint01> "learn" a text editor? I said _usable_
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> Lint01: i prefer leafpad, nice and light
[12:04] <sadsadsad> What do i do it to make it work ?
[12:04] <tonyyarusso> ActionParsnip1: text-mode...
[12:04] <jrib> Lint01: nano, vim, and emacs are the more popular ones
[12:04] <tonyyarusso> sadsadsad: read bash faq #1
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> nano then, nice and easy none of this command mode confusion
[12:05] <sadsadsad> saw the link but got nothing usful , my bad :(
[12:05] <aneesh1> LInt01: I suggest vim
[12:05] <Lint01> vim sucked in 2002, I suppose it still does now
[12:06] <aneesh1> Lint01: Still I am using vim for all my coding without any problem.
[12:06] <hateball> Yeah, nothing usually changes in 7 years...
[12:06] <ttyX> thats news for me vim sux
[12:06] <ActionParsnip1> hahah
[12:07] <ActionParsnip1> hateball: mind you, doom is still a hugely easy game
[12:08] <hlovpwei> 大家好。
[12:08] <j> hello
[12:08] <wayne_79> I have a question where do we go for hardware support I am having some issues connecting to my cell phone through the USB port
[12:08] <ziroday> !cn | hlovpwei
[12:08] <pqrstuv> What's the commad to compile .cpp file with gcc?
[12:08] <pqrstuv> gcc a.c -o a works for .c file
[12:08] <pqrstuv> It's .cpp file
[12:08] <hlovpwei> g＋＋
[12:08] <ttyX> wayne_79: google?
[12:08] <hlovpwei> where are you from?
[12:08] <ttyX> and then ubuntu forums
[12:09] <ttyX> and then ubuntu irc channel
[12:09] <wayne_79> tried that and didnt much help
[12:09] <wayne_79> I cant find a driver for the phone
[12:09] <ttyX> what phone is that btw?
[12:09] <wayne_79> lg voyager
[12:10] <ActionParsnip1> pqrstuv: look into g++
[12:10] <ActionParsnip1> !google | ttyX
[12:10] <ActionParsnip1> wayne_79: what do you want to use te phone as, modem? storage?
[12:11] <wayne_79> I want to back it up for when I change phones and was tring to use bitpm and cant connect to it
[12:11] <ttyX> well apparently LG Vogayer has a wiki
[12:11] <ttyX> Voyager*
[12:12] <Phillip> HI, In gparted it wont let me format my second hardrive as NTFS, how can i sort this?
[12:12] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip1: g++ doesn't work
[12:12] <pqrstuv> ActionParsnip1: It's mandriva
[12:13] <ActionParsnip1> pqrstuv: then you are in the wrong channel
[12:13] <ActionParsnip1> #mandriva
[12:13] <ActionParsnip1> or #c++
[12:13] <wayne_79> I will check out the wiki page
[12:13] <ActionParsnip1> wayne_79: have you seen opensync
[12:13] <ActionParsnip1> i just bumped into it
[12:14] <foundry871> I'm going to demonstrate Ubuntu to my friends by doing the thing with no changes made to your computer, if I do that am I still able to install ccsm or any other program?
[12:14] <Phillip> HI, In gparted it wont let me format my second hardrive as NTFS, how can i sort this? can any one help.
[12:14] <ActionParsnip1> foundry871: sure but you will be limited by how much ram the system has
[12:15] <foundry871> I see, that should be fine
[12:15] <foundry871> Thanks
[12:15] <ActionParsnip1> foundry871: but you can install drivers and the like to get 3d effects if they are girly enough to be wowed by 3d effects
[12:15] <aneesh1> foundry871: Of course..
[12:15] <win7friedmamobo> installed windows 7 in vbox, when shutting it down the mobo got fried.. anyone familiar with this?
[12:16] <wayne_79> no I have not seen open sync what is it
[12:17] <ActionParsnip1> wayne_79: seems like an earlier development of some phone sync app
[12:21]  * grawity wonders.
[12:21] <ncp> about what?
[12:21] <ncp> how god made the world
[12:21] <ncp> or how i you can make a pretty big bomb? :)
[12:22] <hylman> wonder why ubuntu cannot boot as fast as moblin
[12:22] <grawity> msg nickserv identify deFRqKI3
[12:22] <Lint01> lol
[12:22] <Smitttttty> anyone got a suggestion for alternate irc client to pidgin?
[12:22] <grawity> Smitttttty: Xchat, irssi.
[12:23] <Smitttttty> ok thankyou :)
[12:23] <ttyX> grawity: change the pass before someone else does
[12:23] <Balsaq> i would like to remove my home address from my introduction is that possible..or even add a phrase of my own like a few others have done? (under whois)
[12:23] <Smitttttty> will dl
[12:23] <papul> whats the archive program used in ubuntu?
[12:23] <ttyX> Smitttttty: xchat?
[12:23] <Smitttttty> ok thankies
[12:23] <grawity> papul: The GUI is called file-roller.
[12:23] <grawity> papul: But it doesn't do any archiving itself - it uses standard tools such as tar, gzip, and 7z.
[12:23] <Ian_Corne> anyone have a link to setup your own ubuntu mirror?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip1> !irc | Smitttttty
[12:24] <hylman> anyone tried karmic rc yet?
[12:24] <Ian_Corne> !mirror
[12:24] <ActionParsnip1> hylman: running it now
[12:24] <ttyX> hylman: donwloading the iso
[12:24] <ttyX> downloading*
[12:24] <Smitttttty> ok thankyou very much for your help guys :)
[12:24] <ttyX> 30 mins to go
[12:25] <hylman> i d/l the beta version last week, install it but found it actually boots longer than jaunty
[12:25] <eighty4> is there anything besides "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" I can run to reconfigure my screen? After chaning from a dvi to a vga cabel I just  get "random stuff" on the screen
[12:25] <ActionParsnip1> hylman: tweak it then
[12:25] <hylman> anyone experiences the same thing?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip1> hylman: bum can be used to reduce boot up services if you dont use them
[12:25] <ttyX> I tried the daily build and it went fine
[12:26] <hylman> it should be by default, without tweaking....
[12:26] <Hazelesque> pc106:home# pycentral help
[12:26] <Hazelesque> unknown action `help'
[12:26] <Hazelesque> use `pycentral help' for help on actions and arguments
[12:26] <Hazelesque> ^ w... t... f...?
[12:26] <hylman> i remember reading some articles in the net re: ubuntu target to boot even faster...
[12:26] <ActionParsnip1> hylman: ubuntu cannot accommodate the vast array of hardware and settings a user may need so i quite bloated by defaul
[12:26] <ttyX> hylman: that's the next release
[12:26] <ttyX> 10.04 LTS
[12:27] <hylman> currently running moblin on my netbook, and boot faster...
[12:27] <ActionParsnip1> hylman: so yes it needs tweaking to be more precise if you want it faster
[12:27] <Guest36729> Hello everybody
[12:27] <hylman> oh, well... looking forward than 10.04 then...
[12:27] <Guest36729> How are you all?
[12:27] <Guest36729> I have a problem with firefox in Ubuntu Jaunty
[12:27] <Guest36729> Will you help me out?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip1> hylman: the kernel can also be very optomised past its current settings, but again the kernel is trying to give maximum functionality so stuff works out of the box more
[12:28] <ttyX> that's why its called generic kernel
[12:28] <ActionParsnip1> ttyX: exactly
[12:28] <aneesh1> Guest36729: Tell me what is your pblm?
[12:28] <lavish> hi all. I've got a problem using visudo... this is the saved file, it looks fine to me but I still can't shutdown using my user "venav" -> http://dpaste.com/111022/
[12:28] <hylman> when I tried karmic beta, there was still lines of CLI before the splash screen kicks in...
[12:29] <ActionParsnip1> hylman: is that ofensive?
[12:29] <ttyX> hylman: that prob was there for me also
[12:29] <hylman> which seems to be a backdraw... as jaunty nicely omit this...
[12:29] <ttyX> but didn't bother
[12:29] <hylman> ActionParsnip1: which part of that is offensive?
[12:29] <Guest36729> This is my problem: Whenever I click on any link, when the page loading ends... The URL in the address field remains the same.
[12:29] <ActionParsnip1> your system will boot a lot faster if you remove network manager and use the interfaces file with static ip
[12:30] <leaf-sheep> Heh. I love a text line -- let alone a text scrolling. I would take them over splash screen anytime. ;o
[12:30] <Guest36729> It doesn't let me go forward or back either.
[12:30] <ActionParsnip1> hylman: dunno you sounded like seeing some lines of text was a bad thing.
[12:30] <jalmeida> hiffy, is possible resize a partition ntfs with my ubuntu intaled ?
[12:30] <Guest36729> And it doesn't save my bookmarks or history
[12:30] <Guest36729> I can't access them.
[12:31] <ttyX> Guest36729: ru sure your partition is not mounted as read only?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip1> hylman: if boot times get you wet, try running xpud. Boots in 4 seconds from cold here on sata hdd
[12:32] <hylman> ActionParsnip1: I didn't mean that at all... but personally I prefer not seeing this scrolling text at all..
[12:32] <Guest36729> ttyX I think I do.
[12:32] <papul> can i get the ubuntu theme as an archive?
[12:32] <Guest36729> How could I find out?
[12:32] <welcome> when i upgrade from jaunty to karmnic (using a live cd).. will the support period extend or only the packages will be upgraded??
[12:32] <ActionParsnip1> hylman: i prefer it, can see when and if things go wrong. this is especially needed during beta testing
[12:32] <ttyX> try mkdir in a terminal for example
[12:32] <RussellAlan> i just hopped off karmic koala well atleast the kde.
[12:32] <gamerx> hey got a question, from time to time ubuntu will ask me to put my wireless apssword in, and the **'s that are in the box look like they are a hash
[12:32] <Guest36729> ttyX It works
[12:32] <RussellAlan> lost taskbar support =D gnome now /
[12:33] <Guest36729> ttyX It creates the directory without any problem.
[12:33] <ttyX> well then its not mounted as ro atleast :P
[12:33] <Guest36729> What should I do?
[12:33] <aneesh1> Guest36729: Try to upgrade firefox using synaptic manager
[12:33] <JuJuBee> Why would I have blocked updates?
[12:33] <hylman> yeah... well again it's personal choice... but I believe there should be option to disable this scrolling text... after all, splash screen is there to "hide" them anyway
[12:33] <grawity> gamerx: Maybe the password is just shown in hexadecimal?
[12:33] <ttyX> Guest36729: try full system upgrade
[12:34] <gamerx> grawity, what?
[12:34] <aneesh1> Guest36729: No just the firefox and its dependencies ..
[12:34] <Guest36729> You mean, to the new Ubuntu release?
[12:34] <gamerx> grawity, when i click show password it has "94a5e82c73555210686d86ebf84ffd64e50522c73cf5963553f532bc666e710c" in the box
[12:34] <ActionParsnip1> JuJuBee: the app is ready but the deps have not being made yet
[12:34] <ttyX> Guest36729: no install all available updates for jaunty
[12:34] <hylman> I thought this was a bug, i.e.: scrolling text... well, it seems that it's a feature... is it not? is it still in the rc version?
[12:35] <ttyX> sync and update
[12:35] <athlan> hi!
[12:35] <ActionParsnip1> JuJuBee: so you will get updates held back until they are ready
[12:35] <nurettin> hello i can't use virtualbox-ose because problem is kernel update i cant find virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.24.25
[12:35] <Guest36729> That's done using the update manager, right?
[12:35] <Guest36729> Visually, I mean.
[12:35] <ttyX> nurettin: you need kernel headers for vbox to work
[12:35] <leaf-sheep> gamerx: Displaying hashes for 'sillypassword123' is more safe and security than displaying the actual password.
[12:36] <Guest36729> How can I do that in a terminal?
[12:36] <grawity> Guest36729: apt-get update
[12:36] <Balsaq> i think i may have installed xchat twice,can anyone tell me how to get one back ouuta here?
[12:36] <ttyX> yes Guest36729
[12:36] <suigeneris> is there any way to remove the word Avidemux from the title of the video files I converted?
[12:36] <nurettin> ttyX: how find ?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip1> Balsaq: you cant install an app twice
[12:36] <gamerx> leaf-sheep, yes but its kinda annoying that it keeps asking me for it in the begginning
[12:36] <Guest36729> Sorry for my english, I don't know very well when to use "in" or "on".
[12:36] <ActionParsnip1> Balsaq: you may have xchat and xchat2
[12:36] <Balsaq> oh good thanks ActionParsnip1
[12:36] <ttyX> search synaptic nurettin and install the package matching your kernel version
[12:37] <hylman> btw, anyone tried karmic moblin remix recently?
[12:37] <gamerx> Guest36729, your doing exeptionally well
[12:37] <Balsaq> ActionParsnip1 how can icelan up my whois?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip1> Balsaq: if you analyse the output of: dpkg -l | grep xchat     you can see what packages you have installed relating
[12:37] <hylman> wonder if karmic moblin is still buggy
[12:37] <leaf-sheep> gamerx: If you toggles on the AutoLogin, nm-applet will prompt for password.
[12:37] <ActionParsnip1> Balsaq: no idea, i dont use it
[12:37] <athlan> could anyone come into a private chat with me?
[12:37] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip1:  Oh, thanks.  I thought maybe I had something installed that I shouldnt have
[12:37] <daniel82lam> anyone running on hp tx2000 here?
[12:37] <Balsaq> ActionParsnip1 how can i clean up my whois?
[12:37] <Guest36729> Will you upgrade to the new release?
[12:37] <gamerx> leaf-sheep, and how do i go about cjhecking?
[12:37] <Balsaq> oh ok saw it now ActionParsnip1
[12:37] <nurettin> ttyX: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=virtualbox-ose
[12:37] <whois> Balsaq: your question is off-topic in this channel, please join #freenode
[12:38] <leaf-sheep> gamerx: You don't know? When you boot up, does it bypass the User/Password login?
[12:38] <Guest36729> My system is 64 bit, I forgot to say it.
[12:38] <gamerx> leaf-sheep, no
[12:38] <Balsaq> oh thought iwas in freenode sorry
[12:38] <gamerx> leaf-sheep, HELL no ratehr
[12:38] <nurettin> ttyX: the last package Package virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.24-24-generic
[12:38] <ActionParsnip1> Guest36729: whats up?
[12:38] <athlan> have a problem with network-manager on jaunty
[12:38] <nurettin> ttyX: but i need Package virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.24-25-generic
[12:39] <Guest36729> Isn't that a problem?
[12:39] <Guest36729> I thought it was.
[12:39] <ActionParsnip1> Guest36729: is what a prolem?
[12:39] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip1:  The updates are for Linux-headers-generic-2.6.28.15.20(amd64) same for restricted-modules, generic and image-generic  is this normal?
[12:39] <nurettin> ttyX: who is creating this packages ?
[12:39] <Guest36729> Using 64 bit O.S.
[12:39] <daniel82lam> my wacom pen is working fine on X, but touchscreen was poorly config. How do I get the touchscreen working according where i touch, where the pointer is?
[12:39] <nurettin> ttyX: or can i create this package ?
[12:39] <ttyX> Ubuntu devs offcourse
[12:40] <ActionParsnip1> Guest36729: no its no problem at all
[12:40] <Guest36729> When I try to upgrade, it asks me for the Ubuntu Jaunty CD
[12:40] <Guest36729> Is that normal?
[12:40] <coz_> daniel82lam,   try here   http://tnoergaard.wordpress.com/2009/05/09/ubuntu-touch-screen-setup-and-calibration/
[12:40] <athlan> the network manager does not connect to vpn network, although it says "connection established"
[12:40] <ActionParsnip1> JuJuBee: you can run: sudo apt-get install limux-image-2.6.28.15.20     if you really NEED the kernel. If your system is fine then you dont need it
[12:41] <hey_boy> how do I reconfigure the X server in Jaunty?
[12:41] <ActionParsnip1> Guest36729: can you tab complete my name at the start of sentances
[12:41] <orz> hello, is there any suggested terminal ?
[12:41] <coz_> hey_boy,   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[12:41] <ActionParsnip1> Guest36729: see how my text to you is highlighted, that ISNT an accident
[12:41] <Guest36729> ActionParsnip1 Ok, sorry
[12:41] <nurettin> ttyX: and how can i use skystar2 pci dvb card ?
[12:41] <orz> i need a terminal support 256 colors
[12:41] <leaf-sheep> Guest36729: Toggle off 'Installable from CD-ROM/DVD' under Software Sources.
[12:42] <ActionParsnip1> Guest36729: you have your install CD marked as a repository in synaptic, you need to remove this.
[12:42] <Guest36729> leaf-sheep Thank you.
[12:42] <nurettin> ttyX:  kaffeine menu is cant see dvb?
[12:42] <ttyX> nurettin: I guess you should search ubuntu forums first
[12:42] <StrangeCharm> if i'm currently using the karmic beta, will a <sudo su && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade> update everything to the stable version, once that's released?
[12:42] <athlan> the network manager does not connect to vpn network, although it says "connection established"
[12:42] <nurettin> ttyX: thank you
[12:42] <Geine> hi ubuntu guys, is there a command I can use it to view my Internet IP ?
[12:42] <athlan> ifconfig
[12:43] <leaf-sheep> !karmic | StrangeCharm
[12:43] <Guest36729> Ok, I did it.
[12:43] <athlan> ? not sure
[12:43] <Geine> ifconfig will show only local
[12:43] <Guest36729> ActionParsnip1 And now, what?
[12:43] <L1nUX1z3R> how do i turn on my bluetooth radio in command on jaunty?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip1> Geine: : wget -qO - checkip.dyndns.org | grep -Eo '[0-9\.]+'
[12:43] <Geine> dyndns.org blocked in my area
[12:43] <athlan> may anyone come in a private chat with me?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip1> Geine: i have this in a script, dead handy
[12:44] <athlan> i am totally confused here...
[12:44] <cristi1> hey! how can i find a package in the repository using the terminal?
[12:44] <Guest36729> ActionParsnip1 How do I update the whole system?
[12:44] <leaf-sheep> athlan: You are in a private chat with 1434 strangers.
[12:44] <ActionParsnip1> Geine: thats weird, "You shall not convert your own IP to a handy name"
[12:44] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip1: so it will be "unblocked" when the deps are finished?
[12:44] <MaT-dg1> booted from livecd: I have 2 disks in raid 0 with NTFS but I see 2 separate disks in gparted (sda & sdb) with unallocated space and no disks in nautilus. How can I make ubuntu recognize my RAID?
[12:44] <athlan> hi
[12:44] <L1nUX1z3R> cristi1, aptitude search "package name"
[12:44] <akappa> Hi all, the new GDM theme in ubuntu 9.10 sucks. There is a way to change it? I've launched gdmsetup but I only found a box that lets me autologin and nothing else...
[12:44] <ActionParsnip1> Guest36729: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:44] <cristi1> L1nUX1z3R: thank you!
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> JuJuBee: yeah, when its ready it will come down
[12:45] <Guest36729> ActionParsnip1 Both of them work?
[12:45] <L1nUX1z3R> cristi1, yw
[12:45] <athlan> 1
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> Guest36729: no, its one command
[12:45] <L1nUX1z3R> how do i turn on my bluetooth radio in command on jaunty?
[12:45] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip1: cool, thanks for the info
[12:45] <Guest36729> ActionParsnip1 Oh, ok. Thank you very much.
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> L1nUX1z3R: sudo rmmod btusb
[12:45] <athlan> confusing...
[12:45] <athlan> i am using irc for the very first time...
[12:46] <bensmith> so am i as of last night
[12:46] <aneesh1> athlan: What is your pblm>
[12:46] <bensmith> it rrally easy like a massive chatroom
[12:46] <L1nUX1z3R> ActionParsnip1, i get " the module does not exist"
[12:46] <ActionParsnip1> L1nUX1z3R: then run: lsmod   see which relates to your usb and rmmod it
[12:46] <akappa> so really I can't change my gdm theme?!
[12:46] <Geine> ActionParsnip1, nice script but as I told you -- dyndns.org blocked from the ISP
[12:46] <athlan> how am i able to respond in private?
[12:47] <cristi1> L1nUX1z3R: and if i know the application's name and not the package name itself?
[12:47] <L1nUX1z3R> cristi1, you can still write it
[12:47] <ActionParsnip1> Geine: you can do something similar with ipchicken  do they oppose that too?
[12:47] <L1nUX1z3R> ActionParsnip1, what does rmmod do?
[12:47] <Guest36729> ActionParsnip1 Should I wait the new version to be released or try the beta release?
[12:47] <aneesh1> akappa: You can change
[12:47] <akappa> aneesh1, how?
[12:47] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip1: I am currently running 64Bit on a core 2 duo 2.54  am I "really" benefiting by using 64 bit or is there not really much diff from 32 bit?
[12:47] <geekAb>  
[12:47] <geekAb>  
[12:47] <Geine> ActionParsnip1, ipchicken ?
[12:47] <geekAb>  
[12:47] <FloodBot3> geekAb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:48] <aneesh1> akppa: go to this site
[12:48] <ActionParsnip1> Geine: https://forum.hackinthebox.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=17130&start=10
[12:48] <aneesh1> http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=150
[12:48] <leaf-sheep> JuJuBee: You're taking advantage of your hardwares's processing power.
[12:49] <JuJuBee> leaf-sheep:  but by how much really?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip1> Geine: uses www.ipchicken.com    which shows your WAN IP. That script just cuts out the info then shows it nicely
[12:49] <geekAb> i am facing a problem in my ubuntu system , after boot up the network manager is crashing , how to resolve that
[12:49] <geekAb> i am facing a problem in my ubuntu system , after boot up the network manager is crashing , how to resolve that
[12:49] <JuJuBee> I have an app that I cannot get running on 64bit
[12:49] <RussellAlan> I was just in kde about 8 hours ago, lost use of my main file manager, like task bar, someone told me to install gnome-desktop, so now I'm on the other side, althought im liking it. I had 1024x1xxx
[12:49] <Geine> ActionParsnip1, thanks
[12:49] <ActionParsnip1> JuJuBee: how much ram do you have?
[12:49] <leaf-sheep> JuJuBee: What application?
[12:49] <Guest36729> I think my problem with firefox exists since I installed some skins and updated it to 3.5 wrongly.
[12:49] <RussellAlan> now all i have the option is fro 1024x729
[12:49] <daniel82lam> coz_, you think its a calibration problem?
[12:49] <JuJuBee> I have 6GB ram and the application is for a SmartBoard in a classroom
[12:50] <aneesh1> akppa: download the themes . And you can install it by 'System --> Preferences -- > Theme'
[12:50] <ActionParsnip1> JuJuBee: apps like audio and video encoding / decoding benefit from 64bit
[12:50] <ActionParsnip1> JuJuBee: you NEED 64bit as you have more than 3Gb RAM
[12:50] <Guest36729> I haven't been able to go forward or back in firefox since.
[12:50] <pqrstuv> Hi
[12:50] <cristi1> L1nUX1z3R: didn't work, but it did with apt-cache search . thanks again anyway!
[12:50] <coz_> daniel82lam,   it might be  would you mind stating the issue again ...sorry  I am doing three things at once:)
[12:50] <ActionParsnip1> Guest36729: then rename ~/.mozilla   and rerun it
[12:50] <L1nUX1z3R> cristi1, yw
[12:51] <pqrstuv> hi
[12:51] <leaf-sheep> JuJuBee: Does the application ends with .exe?  Is the application for Windows?
[12:51] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip1: thanks for that
[12:51] <aneesh1> Guest36729: Just wait for 6 Days . You can install new ubuntu 9.10
[12:51] <JuJuBee> leaf-sheep: no, it is a linux native app
[12:51] <JuJuBee> SmartTech makes software for their smartboards (interactive white board) and make for linux as well
[12:51] <ActionParsnip1> JuJuBee: max for 32bit + PAE is about 6Gb ram (i think) max for 64bit is 4 exabtytes
[12:51] <akappa> aneesh1, have you even read my question? I was talking about GDM themes!
[12:52] <leaf-sheep> JuJuBee: You might want to try chroot?
[12:52] <leaf-sheep> !chroot | JuJuBee
[12:52] <Xtreme_Great> !fsck
[12:52] <Xtreme_Great> !fsck.vfat
[12:52] <benkong2> hello
[12:53] <athlan> how am i able to respond in private?
[12:53] <Xtreme_Great> !Ubuntu: markus_mpd
[12:53] <leaf-sheep> athlan: What IRC client are you using?
[12:53] <Xtreme_Great> !Ubuntu | markus_mpd
[12:53] <markus_mpd> ubottu: I should invite you to participate in your xorg and it becomes confusing.
[12:53] <JuJuBee> leaf-sheep: the program is not distributed as source, but binary... I installed on a 32 bit vm of ubuntu and tried to copy over but did not work.
[12:53] <benkong2> when I apt-get update I get a message about using apt-get autoremove for several packages. Is it safe to use that command?
[12:53] <vox> benkong2: yes
 hi
 are u there?
 have a really strange problem with network manager.
 i imported a .pcf profile, and added the passwords.
 when attempting to connect, everything seems to work. i get no error message
 the connect-animation is showing as well
[12:53] <FloodBot3> athlan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:53] <daniel82lam> coz_, sorry. I got wacom pen working on this tablet pc model hp tx2032au (tx2000). but not the touchscreen. when i uses my hand to touch the screen, the cursor seems not at where it suppose to be.
[12:54] <coz_> daniel82lam,  oh yeah  it probably is... did you read that link I gave you???
[12:54] <daniel82lam> yeps
[12:54] <aneesh1> akappa: Yea. Thats what i am saying.Did you check that url. It is all GDM themes
[12:54] <coz_> daniel82lam,  did that give any clues for calibration?
[12:54] <JasseT> benkong2: yes
[12:54] <Xtreme_Great> !Linux | markus_mpd
[12:54] <markus_mpd> ubottu: Information on the system.
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> !bot | markus_mpd
[12:54] <oversize> according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NC20 i can install openchrome while running from the live CD. but i after booting, i dont have an xorg.conf in /etc/X11 ... where is it ?
[12:55] <suigeneris> in avidemux preferences, I have dmix for ALSA device but sound cannot be played back. what do I need to put there?
[12:55] <coz_> daniel82lam,  it definitly sounds as though it might just be a calibration issue   I dont have a touchscreen here to test it though so you may be on your own with googling on this unless someone pops up here with touch scren
[12:55] <akappa> aneesh1, but you can't change gdm themes goind to "apparence", there you can change your "desktop" theme
[12:55] <leaf-sheep> JuJuBee: You have the .deb ?
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> oversize:  X is supposed to autoconfigure. i have several systems that dont need a xorg.conf at all.
[12:55] <akappa> aneesh1, before the new gdm, you've to go to system -> administration -> login screen
[12:55] <JuJuBee> leaf-sheep: http://paste.ubuntu.com/299743/  these are directions I tried to follow.... and no not a .deb it uses autopackage
[12:55] <daniel82lam> coz_, alright... let me test this calibration, hope that settle this
[12:55] <markus_mpd> Elena is a light, portable screen usually circular and supported on a core 2 duo 2.54 am i "really" benefiting by using 64 bit ubuntu.
[12:55] <Guest58035> ActionParsnip1 Updating didn't solve the problem...Any suggestions?
[12:55] <akappa> now the "login screen" configuration windows is amazingly empty
[12:56] <aneesh1> akappa: You mean login screen?
[12:56] <coz_> daniel82lam,  I have the wacom tablets  but of course those are pretty well set up in ubuntu  "almost" :)
[12:56] <ActionParsnip1> Guest58035: i dont know what you problem is
[12:56] <akappa> aneesh1, yes, it's the gdm theme
[12:56] <hachel> hello, I'm trying to create an alias for my bash for this command: sudo sh -c 'echo "SOURCE" >> /etc/apt/sources.list'. How would I do it so that whatever I type after my alias would substitute for SOURCE?
[12:56] <coz_> daniel82lam,   the other options before installing any thing is go to the ##linux channel to see if anyone there has experience with touch screens
[12:56] <oversize> Dr-Willis: ok how would i change the video driver being used then? i have a via Chrom 9 which is not working out of the box
[12:56] <Guest58035> ActionParsnip1 My problem is firefox doesn't let me navigate back or forward, it doesn't save history nor bookmarks.
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> oversize: ive wondered that
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> oversize:  in theory you install the driver. and restart X. (without rebooting the machine)
[12:57] <jrib> hachel: write a script, not an alias, but do you really do that that often to warrant a shortcut?
[12:57] <daniel82lam> coz_, not with this one. I am using ubuntu jaunty. Sad
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> Guest58035: have you tried renaming ~/.mozilla
[12:57] <Guest58035> ActionParsnip1 The folder?
[12:57] <leaf-sheep> JuJuBee: Is that all of the instruction?
[12:57] <coz_> daniel82lam,  are you saying that tutorial doesn work?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> Guest58035: yes ~/.mozilla is a folder
[12:58] <daniel82lam> coz_, wacomcpl seems not working
[12:58] <calm> i was using evhz.c to check my current USB mouse polling rate in 9.04... it doesn't seem to work now in 9.10.. any ideas?
[12:58] <coz_> daniel82lam,  mmm
[12:58] <ActionParsnip1> !9.10 | calm
[12:58] <coz_> daniel82lam, that's a bit distressing for sure
[12:58] <JuJuBee> leaf-sheep: for installing on 64 bit yes...  They assume it is running already on 32 bit...
[12:58] <athlan> @ leafsheep: i am using XChat
[12:58] <leaf-sheep> athlan: Let's talk here instead of PM.
[12:58] <daniel82lam> coz_, i actually followed the guideline at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1038949
[12:59] <calm> :o
[12:59] <markus_mpd> Greetings and salutations to thee and thine.
[12:59] <coz_> daniel82lam,   and that is not working properly?
[12:59] <daniel82lam> coz_, its working on the pen but just the with your hands
[12:59] <athlan> @leaf sheep: how? Just write?
[12:59] <coz_> daniel82lam,  oh I see now
[12:59] <daniel82lam> coz_, its working but not completely working
[12:59] <coz_> daniel82lam,  mm  damn  I wish I had a pen tablet to test this with    it may be that you have to ch oose between to the two but again i would check in other channels like ##linux   etc
[12:59] <leaf-sheep> JuJuBee: You might want to try installing 32-bit libraries.
[12:59] <daniel82lam> coz_, should i get back to slackware? hehe (:
[13:00] <leaf-sheep> !info ia32-libs | JuJuBee
[13:00] <Xtreme_Great> !libgtk
[13:00] <Guest58035> ActionParsnip1 Could you please tell me the whole path?
[13:00] <coz_> daniel82lam,  mm  I not sure about that one :)   if slackware had better support for this  then I might say yes if the touchscreen and tablet functions are real important
[13:00] <MBD123> I know this is a noobish question, but here goes. I'm trying to cp a file from one directory to another, but it says that it can't open the file for reading because permission is denied. How might one remedy this?
[13:00] <coz_> daniel82lam,  they are to me
[13:01] <ActionParsnip1> Guest58035: /home/$USER/.mozilla   OR $HOME/.mozilla   OR (as I actually did give you the path)   ~?.mozilla
[13:01] <athlan> @ leaf-sheep: I have a problem with the network-manager in Gnome, ubuntu 9.04.
[13:01] <coz_> daniel82lam,  it is nice that ubuntu has finally gotten wacom to work more or less but it is still lacking in advanced features   and I am sure that touchscreen may be that same
[13:01] <leaf-sheep> JuJuBee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit#How%20to%20make%2032-bit%20work%20on%20a%2064-bit%20machine
[13:01] <ActionParsnip1> ~/.mozilla is the full and complete path
[13:01] <JuJuBee> leaf-sheep: it seems that ubottu is broken, they do exist and are already installed
[13:01] <Guest58035> ActionParsnip1 Thanks very much, indeed.
[13:02] <Guest58035> ActionParsnip1 Which name should I set?
[13:02] <daniel82lam> i had past back my experience back to the "internet", i came back to *nix after more than 8 years until today. I even forgotten some basic commands
[13:02] <gamerx> word of warning: dont uninstall your default video driver :s
[13:02] <athlan> @ leaf-sheep: although it clearly states, that i am connected to vpn network, i cannot ping out
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> Guest58035: anything you want, just make it different
[13:02] <leaf-sheep> JuJuBee: I don't think ubottu index anything more than main/restricted -- That's my guess.
[13:02] <JuJuBee> leaf-sheep: I do have a vm installed and have this app working there, but it is awkward using a smartboard control from within a window of vm...
[13:03] <daniel82lam> coz_, its working. I saw it on youtube
[13:03] <leaf-sheep> athlan: OpenVPN?
[13:03] <oversize> Dr_Willis: according to aptitude the openchrome driver is installed, but X fails to succesfully show a screen, how can i check what driver the running X is using? (and possibly alter that) ?
[13:03] <athlan> @ leaf-sheep: vpnc
[13:03] <coz_> daniel82lam,    ah ok   ...you might be able to contact the youtube video person  that did that video for some troubleshooting sruff
[13:03] <ActionParsnip1> Guest58035: once you rename it you will get a stock profile when you next run the browser
[13:03] <jacquesdupontd> i have a very bashrc script to offer cause i passed all my night on it and i think it can be usefull to many people aournd here
[13:03] <athlan> @ leaf-sheep: how do you make your text appearing in red colour?
[13:04] <Guest58035> ActionParsnip1 Ok.
[13:04] <leaf-sheep> athlan: Because my message contains your nickname.
[13:04] <leaf-sheep> athlan: Do you have network-manager-vpnc installed?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip1> Guest58035: if its ok now, the old profile is corrupted
[13:04] <daniel82lam> coz_, the touchscreen really works which i saw it on youtube. What tempted me is the beryl and that's why I come back to linux
[13:04] <athlan> leaf-sheep: yes
[13:05] <JuJuBee> leaf-sheep: There is another website with instructions http://www.crucialthought.com/2009/08/05/how-to-install-smart-notebook-software-on-a-64-bit-ubuntu-machine/  but they didn't work for me...
[13:05] <Pici> MBD123: What are you trying to copy and to where?
[13:05] <Guest58035> ActionParsnip1 Why are there hidden directories in my home directory?
[13:05] <coz_> daniel82lam,  ok  I have seen touchscreen with compiz running it is  quite interestingn to watch   but I dont know about the combination of wacom and touchscreen drivers
[13:05] <coz_> daniel82lam,  I wouldnt mind playing with touchscreen + compiz :)
[13:05] <Guest58035> ActionParsnip1 Because that directory doesn't appear doing a "ls"
[13:05] <daniel82lam> compiz is new to me
[13:06] <athlan> leaf-sheep: in fact, i once had a fine connection with network-manager. But for some reason, all my profiles were deleted 3 days ago.
[13:06] <daniel82lam> even beryl
[13:06] <coz_> daniel82lam,  well dont worry about it...compiz 0.8.4  is just recently released and it is stable
[13:06] <harisund> Guest58035: ls -a shows hidden directories
[13:06] <daniel82lam> back 7-8 years, there's not about compiz (:
[13:06] <coz_> daniel82lam,  if you install ubuntu karmic 9.10 you s hould  get 0.8.4  compiz by default
[13:06] <daniel82lam> nothing*
[13:06] <Guest58035> Oh, ok. Excuse my ignorance.
[13:07] <athlan> leaf-sheep: i re-imported the profile, andsince then, it just "does as if it was connected"
[13:07] <coz_> daniel82lam,  well  beryl and compiz joined together.    it is much more reliable than beryl was
[13:08] <daniel82lam> what i understand beryl is the rolling cube and compiz, effects
[13:08] <Guest58035> ActionParsnip1 Is this correct? ----> sudo rename \.mozilla \firefox ?
[13:08] <athlan> leaf-sheep: the strange thing is that the connection works via the terminal command "vpnc profile"
[13:08] <daniel82lam> correct me if i am wrong
[13:08] <JuJuBee> leaf-sheep:  when I try to install the package using 32bit mode I get this... # Checking for libxkbfile.so ... failed
[13:08] <grawity> Guest58035: No, mv ~/.mozilla ~/mozilla.old
[13:09] <jacquesdupontd> ok here is my script give it to anybody http://pastebin.com/m7d33e856
[13:09] <Guest58035> grawity Thanks a lot.
[13:09] <athlan> leaf-sheep: do you read?
[13:10] <Guest58035> grawity How do I type the "~" character. My keyboard "is spanish".
[13:10] <leaf-sheep> JuJuBee: You could install Ubuntu 32 bit -- Install the server kernel (with PAE support) so you can use all the 6GB ram.
[13:10] <grawity> Guest58035: I don't know. Type $HOME instead, or /home/your-username
[13:10] <leaf-sheep> athlan: Yes I have received your messages. I do not know the solution to your bizarre issues.
[13:10] <psinetic> hey, can someone help me with playing a dvd movie in ubuntu? I put the DVD in the drive, it shows up as the icon on the desktop and in the media folder. I open it in Totem and it greys out, I open it in vlc and it doesn't do anything at all, and mplayer gives me a "seek file" error.
[13:11] <Guest58035> grawity One last question... I have just installed Compiz... How can I make it work now?
[13:11] <iceroot> !libdvdcss | psinetic
[13:11] <JuJuBee> leaf-sheep: Id rather not do that.  I would rather leave my machine alone than do a complete re-install...
[13:11] <leaf-sheep> JuJuBee: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-4gb-ram-limitation-solution/
[13:11] <leaf-sheep> JuJuBee: That is fine. I'm supplying you with choices.
[13:11] <athlan> leaf-sheep: not only the network manager profile was deleted, but the clock applet was also set back to default
[13:11] <grawity> Guest58035: Activate it in the Appearance Settings, on the Effects tab.
[13:11] <ActionParsnip1> Guest58035: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla_old
[13:12] <pqrstuv> Is anyone here?
[13:12] <grawity> Guest58035: Also, install CCSM - this will let you configure Compiz a lot.
[13:12] <ActionParsnip1> Guest58035: you can copy and paste to the terminal
[13:12] <athlan> leaf-sheep: 12 hour format etc
[13:12] <grawity> pqrstuv: No, as you can see this channel is completely empty. -_-
[13:12] <grawity> Guest58035: And find that ~ key, you might need it often in Linux...
[13:12] <leaf-sheep> athlan: What were you doing when that happened?
[13:12] <Blank__> haha beat me to it grawity
[13:12] <Guest58035> grawity I will :)
[13:12] <grawity> !ccsm | Guest58035
[13:13] <athlan> leaf-sheep: i was downloading a file from rapidshare, using JDownloader
[13:13] <athlan> leaf-sheep: meanwhile, i was away, and when i came back, the profile was deleted
[13:14] <athlan> leaf-sheep: the room was securely locked though :)
[13:15] <leaf-sheep> athlan: Lies. The fly could fly in and h4x0r your machine.
[13:15] <OleMoudi> hi! I installed 9.04 on my laptop several days ago, and Im since noticing the cpu fan is just taking his job too seriusly, it doesn't stop once it starts cooling, is there any known issue with laptop power management?
[13:16] <leaf-sheep> athlan: That could be a weird bug. Are you using Jaunty?
[13:16] <athlan> leaf-sheep: when "connecting" with Network-Man, and type vpn-disconnect in shell, it says no vpn running
[13:16] <athlan> leaf-sheep: yes
[13:17] <athlan> leaf-sheep: sorry, english is not my natiye language. What do you mean by fly?
[13:17] <leaf-sheep> athlan: Run "killall nm-applet; nm-applet &" and see if the problem still occur.
[13:17] <coz_> OldFred,  there is something called  laptop-mode-tools  and also you may want to read here   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1079180
[13:17] <JuJuBee> leaf-sheep: I appreciate the help... reading about chroot option now....
[13:17] <leaf-sheep> athlan: The fly == The winged bug.
[13:18] <Miki> hello
[13:18] <Guest58035> ubottu Shall I shutdown first?
[13:18] <indus> hello
[13:18] <Guest58035> ubottu Reboot I mean.
[13:19] <JuJuBee> Does chroot option install an entire 32bit version of ubuntu into /srv/chroot ?
[13:19] <grawity> Guest58035: Ubottu is a _bot_ - a program.
[13:19] <Guest58035> ubottu I mean reboot.
[13:19] <indus> hihihihi
[13:19] <gamerx> Guest58035, i lolz
[13:19] <leaf-sheep> athlan: Or you're talking about the second phrase -- 'could fly in' as in -- 'Superman is flying over the building'
[13:19] <gamerx> Guest58035, you cant ask the bot lol
[13:19] <Miki> i would like to know how to transfer  the contact from a windows mobile  to evolution on the ubuntu pc
[13:19] <athlan> leaf-sheep: ok, i ran that command
[13:19] <indus> Guest58035: its a robot
[13:19] <gamerx> Guest58035, indus, lol
[13:19] <Guest58035> grawity Is my english so crappy?
[13:19] <athlan> leaf-sheep: i will however have to disconnect
[13:19] <psinetic> iceroot, i looked at that. I'm still having trouble. Totem refuses to play it entirely. I got vlc to play it, but it's all choppy and doesn't play right, mplayer keeps giving me an error. so i ran the dvd through terminal with mplayer, and here was the outcome:    http://pastebin.com/m54c929f5
[13:19] <Guest58035> Ok, I understand, my english suck.
[13:19] <leaf-sheep> athlan: That is okay.
[13:20] <Guest58035> But I'm not a bot. I'm spanish.
[13:20] <indus> Guest58035: you can address ubottu like this  !hi
[13:20] <athlan> leaf-sheep: cu in a few
[13:20] <grawity> Guest58035: I was talking about ubottu, not you -_-
[13:20] <indus> !hi | Guest58035
[13:20] <Pici> Guest58035: We know you're not a bot. ubottu is a bot.
[13:20] <Miki> i would like to know how to transfer  the contact from a windows mobile  to evolution on the ubuntu pc ?
[13:21] <Guest58035> Oh, I misunderstood then.
[13:21] <Pici> Guest58035: We also have spanish channels here if you would be more comfortable there.
[13:21] <Guest58035> Sorry about that.
[13:21] <Pici> Guest58035: Nothing to be sorry about.
[13:22] <Guest58035> Pici Thanks, but I rather stay here and improve my english at the same time as I learn Ubuntu.
[13:22] <Pici> Guest58035: Okay :)
[13:22] <Guest58035> Shall I reboot the system after installing Compiz?
[13:22] <gamerx> Guest58035, yes
[13:22] <athlan_> leaf-sheep: doesnt work
[13:23] <Guest58035> Ok, I'll be right back, then.
[13:23] <athlan_> leaf-sheep: ping returns apsolutely nothing
[13:23] <Guest58035> See you in two minutes.
[13:23] <gamerx> Guest58035, kk
[13:23] <athlan_> leaf-sheep: after 5 mins it returns "unknown host"
[13:23] <extor> Does linux-image-virtual include built in PAE support? Or does only linux-image-server have built in PAE support?
[13:24] <iceroot> is there a way with CLI to push the current date + 1 day? i want to test a script for every day in the year with a loop and need to push the date
[13:24] <leaf-sheep> athlan_: I see. I don't know what I can help you with. :\
[13:24] <llutz> iceroot: date/hwclock
[13:24] <athlan_> leaf-sheep: however, vpnc-disconnect worked this time. netw-man- disconnected too
[13:25] <iceroot> llutz: command? i only know date -s 2009-10-23
[13:26] <ActionParsnip1> iceroot: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-unix-get-yesterdays-tomorrows-date.html
[13:26] <alberto> Hello, I'm back
[13:26] <psinetic> iceroot, here's an updated pastebin link where i did alot more troubleshooting, it doesn't seem to be a DMA problem at all...but i can't figure out what it is.   http://pastebin.com/m5a237d65
[13:26] <Guest51698> I'm back
[13:26] <llutz> iceroot: make §mydate created within your loop, then "date -s $mydate"
[13:26] <llutz> $
[13:26] <Guest51698> No compiz tab appears in System/preferences/appearance
[13:26] <Guest51698> I can't start compiz...
[13:27] <Guest51698> By the way... Does compiz do the cube thing?
[13:27] <gamerx> Guest51698, system - prefs - compizconfig
[13:27] <iceroot> llutz: i dont want to create all valid days, i want something like currentdate+1
[13:27] <LiteHedded> windows key + tab isn't working anymore. can someone help me with this?
[13:27] <iceroot> llutz: if i create it by hand i have to check if 29-02-2009 is a valid date
[13:27] <Guest51698> gamerx Thank you, you're right, I see it now.
[13:27] <gamerx> Guest51698, no probs i got it too
[13:27] <psinetic> Guest51698,  i've noticed with compiz, anytime i enable compiz, it disables all my graphics in the appearance menu, and when i select ANY graphic selection (whether none, normal, or extra) it cuts off compiz entirely. i haven't found a fix for this yet, and no one on launchpad has mentioned or commented on my bug report.
[13:27] <iceroot> ActionParsnip1: thx, that is working
[13:28] <iceroot> llutz: i got a solution frim ActionParsnip1
[13:28] <gamerx> psinetic, i dont know, it works fine for me
[13:28] <iceroot> llutz: date --date="next day"
[13:28] <llutz> iceroot: maybe this helps "date+1day = date +86400 seconds"
[13:29] <psinetic> gamerx, well, my graphics are fine with compiz enabled, but it's like....nothing is selected under the appearance tab at all. it's not like the "none" selection is even selected, none of them are at all. it's just really odd
[13:29] <Logomachist> Hi room.  Sound worked fine right after installing Ubuntu but then cut out on me one time after I opened the terminal using an alt + F1 key combo.
[13:29] <iceroot> llutz: yes, that is another solution, thx
[13:29] <llutz> iceroot: when using unix-timenotation
[13:29] <gamerx> psinetic, dont know
[13:29] <Guest51698> How do I rotate the cube?
[13:29] <psinetic> ActionParsnip1, would you be able to help me with my problem? i'm trying to play a dvd and the system isn't working. iceroot shot me some helpful guides, but none of them are working. here's the pastebin:   http://pastebin.com/m5a237d65
[13:29] <Guest51698> I have already activated that option.
[13:30] <Guest51698> But I don't know how to rotate the cube
[13:30] <gamerx> psinetic, you need to install restricted extras
[13:30] <qos> why does nautilus when ran as root automatic mounts all my drives? and without root it does not ... ?
[13:30] <gamerx> psinetic, search it in synaptic
[13:30] <psinetic> Guest51698, check your key binding, mine is set to "ctrl+alt+[right] or [left]
[13:30] <psinetic> gamerx, i did that already
[13:30] <jussi01> Guest51698: try pressing and holding ctrl+alt then dragging with the mouse
[13:30] <psinetic> still not working
[13:30] <gamerx> psi, i forget how i got mine working
[13:30] <iceroot> Guest51698: ctrl + alt + left mouseclick = cube-rotate
[13:31] <Guest51698> Thank you very much indeed.
[13:31] <ActionParsnip1> psinetic: you dont play a mount point, you play a raw device, so mplayer /media/cdrom0 is nonesense
[13:31] <psinetic> oh....uh....how do i play it then?
[13:31] <vald0r> I have a general open source question? Im an educator in a private school who personally use Ubuntu and open source software. We have report cards comming up which were normally hand written on a card stock. Now we need to make a template to type in the data. Would an app like scribus or open office work well for this.  the text areas would need to print vertically. and we would need to align it like the card stock using trial
[13:32] <ActionParsnip1> psinetic: mplayer dvd://1
[13:32] <mohan1> Hi Friends, Presently I am using Artha word Dictionary but it doesn't support word pronunciation Is there any software other software with word pronunciation.
[13:32] <ActionParsnip1> psinetic: or if you run vlc you can click file -> open disk
[13:32] <jussi01> vald0r: scribus should work well, but also open office I could imagine doing it.
[13:32] <psinetic> ActionParsnip1, so far so good :D
[13:32] <ActionParsnip1> psinetic: mount points are only for block devices which have files like usb sticks and partitions with user data on
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> mplayer ules all
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> rules
[13:33] <psinetic> ActionParsnip1, THANKS A MILLION!!! now i just gotta figure out how to get it to do this automatically from now on >_>
[13:34] <mohan1> waiting for someones reply.
[13:34] <ActionParsnip1> psinetic: script maybe or set the autorun for a DVD disk to use mplayer
[13:34] <Pranav> How to position and size the monitor screen using the software, rather than monitor keys (OSD) ?
[13:34] <Pranav> grawity, How to position and size the monitor screen using the software, rather than monitor keys (OSD) ?
[13:35] <psinetic> ActionParsnip1, hmmmmmmm.....i'm sorry, simple silly questions :P, how do i set the autorun? just right click properties?
[13:35] <ActionParsnip1> not sure really
[13:36] <mohan1> some wake up answer me please.
[13:37] <Pici> !patience | mohan1
[13:37] <Gus2> Whenever I boot up without a monitor plugged in sshd dosent start at boot, If i plugin the monitor it starts. How can I make sure sshd always starts? (9.04 Server edition).
[13:38] <Pranav> I need to adjust my monitor position without using the OSD keys...any idea anyone plz :(
[13:38] <mohan1> @Pranav use default display manager settings.
[13:38] <Pranav> mohan1, where is it /
[13:39] <Pranav> mohan1, I mean which program ?
[13:39] <mohan1> system>preferences>display
[13:39] <eighty4> is there anything besides "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" I can run to reconfigure my screen? After chaning from a dvi to a vga cabel I just  get "random stuff" on the screen
[13:40] <psinetic> ActionParsnip1, how do i set the mplayer to have english subtitles?
[13:40] <Xtreme_Great> !Debian | markus_mpd
[13:40] <markus_mpd> ubottu: I want to get my car back any different than i gave you :) i have debian on my architecture.
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> psinetic: i think you will need an sbt file in the same folder as your video
[13:41] <mohan1> @ubottu Thanks for you suggestion.
[13:41] <psinetic> hmmmm ok, thanks
[13:42] <gamerx> mohan1, WTF EVERYBODY STOP TALKING TO THE FREEKIN BOT!!!!
[13:42] <Guest51698> Why does Oppenoffice run when I click on aMsn link to hotmail?
[13:42] <ikonia> Xtreme_Great: could you join #ubuntu-ops please
[13:42] <Xtreme_Great> ikonia: Sure
[13:42] <trap2> psinetic, goto file->options->outputs and then choose a direct show renderer that needs to show subtitiles
[13:43] <ikonia> thanks
[13:43] <mohan1> @gamerx talk politely.
[13:43] <gamerx> mohan1, yes but seriously, 5 people in tha lat hour!!!
[13:43] <psinetic> trap2, goto file from where? this is commandline
[13:43] <trap2> psinetic, ok sry
[13:43] <gamerx> psinetic, cd /file/path
[13:44] <Guest51698> ActionParsnip1 Why does Oppenoffice run when I click on aMsn link to hotmail?
[13:45] <mohan1> @Guest by default it won't run like that.
[13:45] <psinetic> gamerx, hmmmm i don't see an sbt file at all, but the dvd case says it has english subtitles...
[13:45] <ActionParsnip1> Guest51698: ask the channel
[13:46] <lunaphyte_> hi.  i'm  trying to add a key with this command: apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 67265eb522bdd6b1c69e66ed7fb8bee0a1f196a8.  it fails though, and says keyserver timed out.  it's been doing this for a day or so now.  how can i troubleshoot, or is there an alternate method to accomplish this?
[13:46] <trap2> I need to adjust my monitor position without using the monitor inbuilt keys ....any idea guys ?
[13:46] <grawity> lunaphyte_: Use pool.sks-keyservers.net
[13:46] <psinetic> 0/ Vox
[13:46] <gamerx> psinetic, try installing xine
[13:47] <psinetic> gamerx, sudo apt-get install xine ?
[13:47] <gamerx> psinetic, no hard trying i would use synaptic tho
[13:47] <gamerx> psinetic, harm*
[13:47] <Guest51698> Why does Oppenoffice run when I click on aMsn link to hotmail?
[13:47] <psinetic> ah ok
[13:47] <mohan1> @trap2 what is the display card you are using? I mean nvidia..
[13:48] <trap2> mohan1, nvidia has a software for it I know. But I am using intel inbuilt graphics card for 845GLLY
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[13:48] <lunaphyte_> grawity: thanks.  it seems to be doing the same thing.  what protocol is used for this?  i'm wondering if a firewall may be causing problems.
[13:49] <mohan1> @trap please be patience I will give terminal command to change screen settings.
[13:49] <grawity> lunaphyte_: HKP - basically HTTP on port 11371. If pool doesn't work, also try keyserver.noreply.org
[13:49] <trap2> mohan1, my resolutions and refresh rates are all same and ok for both the OS
[13:49] <grawity> lunaphyte_: keyserver.ubuntu.com is down very often, don't worry about that one.
[13:49] <psinetic> gamerx, hmmmm i'm looking at synaptic and i never really got the hang of it. how do i know which package to install?
[13:49] <mohan1> @trap2 Okay.
[13:49] <IBall> I can't renable wireless in Hardy from Network under Administration Under System
[13:50] <IBall> Can anyone help
[13:50] <mohan1> @trap2 But what is the actual problem you are facing?
[13:50] <trap2> mohan1, I generated the modeline and used it pretty well
[13:51] <Christoph_vW1> mksquashfs in Karmic seems miss -le and -be options :/
[13:51] <Boohbah> psinetic: sudo apt-cache search xine
[13:51] <Christoph_vW1> but "man mksquashfs" displays them as valid options
[13:51] <lunaphyte_> grawity: ah, yes, i'm certain a large number of outbound high numbered ports are blocked here.  is there a method i can use to obtain the key manually and provide it to apt-key?
[13:52] <trap2> mohan1, When I boot from linux to XP or vice versa, my display is slided and I have to use the monitor OSD buttons to place it correctly on position. But when I place it correctly for one OS I lose the position in the other OS :(
[13:52] <grawity> lunaphyte_: I think keyserver.noreply.org and some others support port 80 too. (The HKP protocol is basically HTTP with predefined path names.)
[13:52] <psinetic> is xine a media player itself or is it a plugin to other media players?
[13:52] <grawity> lunaphyte_: So try http://keyserver.noreply.org/ and get the key.
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> trap2:  last i saw somthing like that - i had the refresh rates different on each os.. but i only saw that issue with VGA CRT monitors. Never LCD, and never dvi
[13:53] <Boohbah> psinetic: xine is a media player library
[13:53] <Boohbah>       xine is a free
[13:53] <Boohbah>       multimedia player. It plays back CDs, DVDs, and VCDs.
[13:53] <Boohbah> oh, my bad
[13:54] <lunaphyte_> grawity: thanks, i'll see what i can figure out.
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> xine uses the xine library proberly. :)
[13:54] <mohan1> @trap2 you have to save the screen settings after you made changes  xorg
[13:54] <Boohbah> It also decodes multimedia files like AVI, MOV, WMV, and MP3 from local disk drives,
[13:54] <psinetic> >_> should i just click every little box in synaptic then? cuz i have no idea what i'm doing in here. i'm too used to windows .exe packages that just install it all for you.
[13:54] <mohan1> @trap2 still I am looking to solve your problem.
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> psinetic:  or learn some linux.. Ive missed the original question. :)
[13:54] <Boohbah> psinetic: sudo apt-get install xine-ui
[13:54] <trap2> Dr_Willis, yes CRT. I don't see any software to use the same modeline in XP
[13:55] <qetuR> Hi! I have two disks in my server, and I would like to make them show as one. They dont have to be raided, but could i LVM them together during the installation of the OS?
[13:55] <LiteHedded> how can i create an image of my drive for backup?
[13:55] <Boohbah> psinetic: you will find that reading the output of 'sudo apt-cache search xine' to find out which package to install
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> psinetic:  use the search feature to  search for xine. Now why you WANT xine - ive no idea
[13:55] <Boohbah> psinetic: vlc is good, 'sudo apt-get install vlc'
[13:55] <psinetic> Dr_Willis, i'm trying to play a dvd, ActionParsnip1 helped me figure out how to do that, and now i realized it's in Danish language and i need to enable the english subbies.
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> I perfer vlc, or mplayer to xine.. but most all of them are better then totem.
[13:55] <psinetic> i have vlc, it won't play
[13:55] <psinetic> neither will totem
[13:55] <qetuR> Boohbah, no, vlc is very bad for ubuntu
[13:55] <qetuR> no fullscreen controllers?
[13:55] <Boohbah> qetuR: not for me
[13:56] <qetuR> i mean, hey?
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> psinetic:   there is the !DVD factoid/web site with some info you may want to read.
[13:56] <Boohbah> qetuR: your experience may vary
[13:56] <qetuR> you never have fullscreen?
[13:56] <trap2> Dr_Willis, by the way I have choose this modeline in ubuntu after days of hit and try to prevent flicker so I dont want to mess up again with xorg.conf
[13:56] <psinetic> yeah someone sent that already
[13:56] <psinetic> i already read it, no help
[13:56] <Boohbah> qetuR: yes, i can get vlc fullscreen
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> qetuR:   thats  not really an issue any more. :) vlc 1 in the ppa have it.. and 9.10 has them.
[13:56] <mohan1> @trap2  Try this command and get back to me. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:57] <Boohbah> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[13:57] <qetuR> Dr_Willis, really?
[13:57]  * Dr_Willis just uses the keyboard shorts to controll things in fullscreen..
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> qetuR:  yes. really. :)
[13:57] <Guest51698> Something similar occurs when I try to set mythtv to fullscreen
[13:57] <Boohbah> psinetic: apt:ubuntu-restricted-extras?section=universe?section=multiverse
[13:57] <qetuR> aa, cool, noticed now
[13:57] <Guest51698> Taskbars are visible.
[13:57] <qetuR> then, VLCs good! :D
[13:57] <Dr_Willis> qetuR:  someone was asking about a month ago.. and   i found the PPA repos for vlc 1.0+ that had  a lot of tweaks.. as far as ive been able to tell it was the VLC guys that moved the controlls arounhd. Not ubuntu.
[13:57] <qetuR> Hi! I have two disks in my server, and I would like to make them show as one. They dont have to be raided, but could i LVM them together during the installation of the OS?
[13:58] <psinetic> boohbah, gave me an error >_>
[13:58] <Guest51698> I can't run it in fullscreen mode
[13:58] <mohan1> @Boohbah Restricted format only applicable for Fresh ubuntu.
[13:58] <Boohbah> qetuR: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-over-lvm-filesystem
[13:58] <trap2> mohan1,  but I think It will just replace my custom modeline in file xorg.conf with the default one thats flickering
[13:59] <Boohbah> qetuR: i haven't personally tried that
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> Theres diffrent ways these players can do 'fullscreen' also.  Its amazing how tweakable vlc and mplayer are.
[13:59] <psinetic> i'm seriously about to just pop the dvd into the playstation three and say screw it >_>
[13:59] <mohan1> @trap2 save your screen settings to xorg.conf that's it.
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> psinetic:  i just use dvdrip to rip them to avi and then put the disk away...
[13:59] <Boohbah> psinetic: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:59] <aoki> is there anyone use qq here?
[13:59] <nickbaababa> Is anyone here?
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> nickbaababa:  No. :)
[13:59] <psinetic> boohbah, done it
[13:59] <psinetic> doesn't work
[13:59] <Dr_Willis> nickbaababa: 1450 people are in the channel.
[14:00] <mohan1> 1449 users here
[14:00] <Guest51698> I'm leaving
[14:00] <nickbaababa> Hello
[14:00] <trap2> haha
[14:00] <Guest51698> Bye, bye.
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> psinetic:  theres also the decss stuff you have to isntall from medibuntu
[14:00] <Boohbah> aoki: there is eva - a KDE IM client using Tencent QQ's protocol
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> !dvd | psinetic
[14:00] <NeoCicak> hello... i'm having problem with my gnome panel... if i display its properties (right click, properties), i always get this error "the folder contents could not be displayed. Error statig file '/home/myuser/.themes/Mac4Lin': No such file or directory'. Admittedly, i tried to install this theme a while ago, but i've uninstalled it
[14:00] <psinetic> *slams head on desk*
[14:00] <]Spectre[> Hi,sorry for the banal question: from windows xp I do the following: start>execute> //server  ,how can I do the same in ubuntu-gnome ?thanks
[14:00] <Boohbah> Dr_Willis: hence the 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[14:00] <psinetic> i just want to watch the movie, i don't want to spend three hours FIXING ubuntu just to get it to play the stupid dvd
[14:01] <Boohbah> !medibuntu | psinetic
[14:01] <Boohbah> psinetic: if all else fails try medibuntu packages
[14:01] <alabd> Good day everyone , How to change owner of a file ?
[14:01] <psinetic> *continues to slam head on desk*
[14:01] <Blank__> alabd, chown
[14:01] <grawity> alabd: Using 'chown' (which needs root privileges)
[14:01] <trap2> It seems there's no solution for my case here. :) Is it that hard to shift the screen positon from the software
[14:01] <AlphaC230ii> @list
[14:01] <Boohbah> alabd: chown alabd: ./some/file
[14:01] <Blank__> psinetic, i know what you mean
[14:01] <psinetic> you know what, it's way too much effort just to play a damn dvd. i'm using PS3, thanks for the help guys, really :)
[14:01] <alabd> thanks
[14:01] <Banana1> Howto disable automatic update?
[14:02] <Boohbah> Banana1: auto update is not enabled by default, is it?
[14:02] <Boohbah> Banana1: do you mean update-manager?
[14:02] <mohan1> @trap2 send me screen shot I will solve your problem completely
[14:02] <aoki> i no, but eva‘s function are incomplete...so i perfer to use wine
[14:02] <psinetic> honestly...can i just vent...a little bit...please?
[14:02] <Banana1> Boohbah: YEs thats what i mean
[14:02] <Boohbah> psinetic: about DVD encryption?
[14:02] <NeoCicak> hello... i'm having problem with my gnome panel... if i display its properties (right click, properties), i always get this error "the folder contents could not be displayed. Error statig file '/home/myuser/.themes/Mac4Lin': No such file or directory'. Admittedly, i tried to install this theme a while ago, but i've uninstalled it
[14:02] <mohan1> @trap2 Everything you can do with ubuntu.
[14:03] <psinetic> boohbah, dvd isn't encrypted, plays fine, just can't find an sbt file for english subs
[14:03] <Boohbah> Banana1: you can turn it off with right-click > quit
[14:03] <IBall> I can't renable wireless in Hardy from Network under Administration Under System
[14:03] <IBall> Can anyone help
[14:03] <IBall> ?
[14:03] <IBall> Please
[14:03] <trap2> mohan1, the screen shot will capture just the screen that is displayed. It will not capture the black shifted part. It will look absolutely normal and I have tried that already
[14:04] <Banana1> Boohbah: Thanks but i just dont want it to popup on every new update
[14:05] <psinetic> ok, i'm gonna vent now. i'm just frustrated, so sorry if i offend anyone. But really....wtf is the problem with ubuntu? I had to reinstall it three times in four weeks, each because there was an OS problem with the install causing various different problems. i FINALLY got an install that is stable and smooth-sailing, except for this dvd thing everything has worked perfectly so far. but really...it makes no sense to me why i should spend three weeks t
[14:05] <psinetic> o a month LITERALLY FIXING the FRESH ubuntu operating system because it didn't install itself right the first time or it isn't setup to "work" correctly upon initial setup.
[14:05] <trap2> mohan1, thanks for those searches. I think I will now do some hit and trial with the vsync and hsync in the xorg.conf modeline and check will they move the postion. :) !
[14:05] <psinetic> *sigh*...ok done
[14:05] <FloodBot3> psinetic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:06] <trap2> mohan1, you might not have such problems is you use CRT
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. so the problem has gone from 'dvd not playiong' to 'i just cant find subtitles' :)
[14:06] <trap2> mohan1, sry *LCD
[14:06] <mohan1> @yeah i am using CRT monitor.
[14:06] <psinetic> Dr_Willis, yes.
[14:06] <llutz> psinetic: stop whining, take an OS of your choice which works for you.
[14:07] <bazhang> psinetic, please take random chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:07] <psinetic> llutz, it's called venting, not whining.
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> psinetic:  You could of stated that clearer earlier..  if its playing in vlc, or mplayer  they are both vbery good about having subtitle optionbs in the menus.. good luck.  Other then that. No idea
[14:07] <trap2> mohan1, http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091023053323AA1EdJD you can see my problem in more detail here
[14:07] <llutz> psinetic: wrong place
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> psinetic:  smplayer i think has a feature to find/download subtitles for many movies also.,
[14:08] <mohan1> okay
[14:08] <reeve> hello, i installed glib with: "apt-get install build-essential libglib2.0-0 libglib2.0-dev" but if i want to include glib.h in my project it cant find it. do i have to tell the linker where to find it?
[14:08] <oversize_> after booting the alternate installer, i got to the prompt. how do i run the curses installer?
[14:08] <psinetic> Dr_Willis, it doesn't play in vlc, totem, or gmplayer, only in command line based mplayer which requires me to directly find a specific subtitle file which i can't find on the dvd. llutz, wtfever, ok?
[14:08] <mohan1> @trap2 before I have the same problem.
[14:09] <sra_> heo
[14:09] <trap2> mohan1, BRB don't change your nick haha
[14:09] <sra_> :)
[14:09] <sra_> hello
[14:10] <mohan1> @trap2 I don't know third party s/w to resolve your issue.
[14:10] <sra_> hello
[14:10] <sra_> hi
[14:10] <bazhang> sra_, hi
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> psinetic:  thats very weird. because gmplayer is identical to the command line mplayer.
[14:10] <mohan1> @sra_ please avoid formal messages.
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> bye all bbl
[14:11] <psinetic> Dr_Willis, doesn't work though
[14:11] <asdgweasd> How to change miktex back to using RANDOM repository?
[14:11] <qetuR> Boohbah, thanks for the link, Ill check it out
[14:11] <jrib> asdgweasd: isn't miktex a window's program?
[14:12] <IBall> ?
[14:12] <IBall> Please
[14:12] <IBall> ?
[14:12] <newab2qik> Hello, my user account that is used to login with got deleted accidently. Can it be recovered or recreated? Os = Jaunty.
[14:12] <asdgweasd> jrib: Yeah, but I thought peoplein here might know it too, Latex. Where do u suggest I ask?
[14:12] <IBall> Can anyone help
[14:12] <mohan1> thank you guys brb.
[14:12] <IBall> I can't renable wireless in Hardy from Network under Administration Under System
[14:12] <jrib> asdgweasd: ##windows
[14:13] <psinetic> alright, well...i got another problem then. doesn't look like keep lets me back my /home folder up either. here's the massive error i recieved after waiting six hours for it to complete:   http://pastebin.com/m7ba72c24
[14:14] <shavinder> when we create users using "adduser" command <not useradd> what permissions does the user's home directory get by default? I mean should another similar user<created similarly> be able to access the home folder of the user?
[14:14] <legend2440> trap2: have you looked at  xvidtune   ? or read man xvidtune
[14:17] <psinetic> >_> screw it, i guess i just won't back my stuff up. i'm gonna go watch this movie in the PS3, so it's gonna be using my monitor to play. so, chau guys
[14:17] <psinetic> hey, again, thanks for all of your help, really, i greatly appreciate it
[14:18] <pdtpatrick___> hi
[14:18] <bazhang> hi
[14:22] <aoki> is there anybody know about qq????
[14:23] <grawity> aoki: If you're searching for a QQ client, try Pidgin.
[14:23] <acetaminophen>  grawity  Ð¡ÃÃÃÃÄãºÃ£¡
[14:23]  * grawity punches acetaminophen
[14:24] <trijntje> haha
[14:25] <Gibby> Morning all
[14:25] <mooky> hello Gibby
[14:25] <ae86-drifter> hello
[14:26] <Gibby> Which logs can I check to try to determine why my box rebooted in the middle of the night?
[14:26] <acetaminophen>  Gibby  ÍíÉÏºÃ£¡
[14:26] <bazhang> acetaminophen, use english here only
[14:27] <meanburrito920_> with the new grub2, how do i change the timeout? grub.cfg says I shouldn't edit the file directly
[14:27] <MenZa> !karmic | meanburrito920_
[14:27] <n8tuser> Gibby-> check every log files you've got in /var/log/
[14:28] <Gibby> n8tuser: I was afraid of that
[14:28] <n8tuser> Gibby-> not too many really
[14:28] <mo0nykit> Question: Does nvidiafb support 16:10 framebuffer modes?
[14:28] <n8tuser> Gibby-> maybe 2 or three
[14:29] <isleshocky771> I submitted a bug and patch to launchpad about two months ago. It's pretty simple, and I would love to see it implemented so I don't have to keep patching the code manually.  No one has even commented on it. I was wondering if I was using launchpad wrong; like do I have to attach it to a branch or something. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin-libnotify/+bug/408624
[14:29] <acetaminophen>  isleshocky771  ÉÏÍøÐÂÊÖ£¬Çë¶à¶à¹ØÕÕ¡£
[14:29] <bazhang> acetaminophen, please use English
[14:29]  * isleshocky771 agrees with bazhang. acetaminophen what were you saying to me?
[14:29] <jrib> isleshocky771: you should try going upstream
[14:30]  * grawity thinks acetaminophen needs to be utf8ilated
[14:30] <acetaminophen>  grawity  ÉÏÍøÐÂÊÖ£¬Çë¶à¶à¹ØÕÕ¡£
[14:30] <isleshocky771> jrib: Can you explain?  First time submitting a patch for ubuntu.
[14:30] <aoki> there are a button in qq's panel, normally if i push it ,it can be linked to my qzone page, but now it doesnt work any more, anybody know how to deal with it?
[14:31] <kuneli> irc.funfile.org
[14:31] <jrib> isleshocky771: you should try to contact pidgin-libnotify developers about it (their tracker or mailing list or whatever)
[14:31] <kuneli> irc.funfile.org
[14:31] <icarus-c> isleshocky771: pushing patch/ bug upstream should be better
[14:31] <acetaminophen>  icarus-c  ¶¼ºÃ¶¼ºÃ
[14:31] <ae86-drifter> ÉÏÍøÐÂÊÖ£¬Çë¶à¶à¹ØÕÕ¡£
[14:31] <icarus-c> acetaminophen: kill your bot please
[14:32] <bazhang> ae86-drifter, english only here
[14:32] <Gibby> Looks like this is the time: Oct 23 02:03:33 desktop syslogd 1.5.0#5ubuntu3: restart.
[14:32] <ae86-drifter> me a no speak engriish
[14:32]  * icarus-c doubts that is a language..
[14:32] <mo0nykit> Question: Does nvidiafb support 16:10 framebuffer modes? Or are the supported modes dependent on the chipset?
[14:34] <]Spectre[> newbye question: Is it possible to install ubuntu9.04 on a partition with windows millennium edition ? (with a dual boot) thanks
[14:34] <grawity> ]Spectre[: Two OSes usually cannot be installed to a single partition. You'd need to make a second one (on the same disk)
[14:35] <ae86-drifter> ]Spectre[, yes thats fine
[14:35] <ae86-drifter> ideally, but you dont have to
[14:35] <isleshocky771> jrib, icarus-c: Oh, I've already done that at his sourceforge page.  However, no response on that either. Looks like he hasn't made a commit or change since Dec 2008
[14:35] <icarus-c> ]Spectre[: Linux on NTFS?!
[14:35] <]Spectre[> ae86-drifter: I never tried to install ubuntu on a pc with the old windows me(fat32)
[14:35] <jrib> isleshocky771: tried e-mailing the developer directly about it?
[14:35] <ae86-drifter> you can put it alongside in the current partition NTFS
[14:36] <ae86-drifter> and still boot into it
[14:36] <]Spectre[> yes I want to have a dual boot(ubuntu,win me)
[14:36] <brianV> hi all. I upgrades my 9.04 installation to karmic overnight, and am trying to check out Ubuntu One. I've created an account there, and started the client, but I see no way to log in / log out, add my machine, or do any of that
[14:36] <isleshocky771> jrib: no.. that's what I'm doing right now.  I guess I was seeing if there was a way of getting done directly through ubuntu instead. But thanks.
[14:36] <coolcat> hey, why the package manager asks me for restart after update?
[14:36] <ae86-drifter> boot the disk and choose "install on a windows partition"
[14:37] <bazhang> brianV, karmic in #ubuntu+1 please
[14:37] <grawity> icarus-c: I _have_ heard of distros that run from FAT32... but too insane.
[14:37] <jrib> isleshocky771: you surely can (and maybe poke and prod #ubuntu-motu souls about it) but patches like this belong upstream imo, not as ubuntu-specific patches
[14:37] <brianV> bazhang: ok
[14:37] <ae86-drifter> ubuntu runs fune on NTFS
[14:37] <ae86-drifter> fine*
[14:37] <Gibby> coolcat: Because an update that was applied requires a restart
[14:37] <grawity> ae86-drifter: Wubi isn't actually NTFS -- it's just a loopmounted ext3 image file in a NTFS partition.
[14:38] <]Spectre[> I can swap on a different hd if needed
[14:38] <BlessJah> hi 4ll
[14:38] <ae86-drifter> yah like a massive file that represents the ubuntu partition
[14:38] <trap2> legend2440, Yes It says that "Unable to query your monitor" or sth like that
[14:38] <BlessJah> what is command to run graphical instalation on liveCD?
[14:38] <]Spectre[> My pain is that I can damage the windows me partition installing ubuntu
[14:39] <BlessJah> i've got remastered CD with wrong link at desktop
[14:39] <Gibby> Blessjah: Just boot to the cd, then select it from the desktop
[14:39] <ae86-drifter> it shouldn't affect it
[14:39] <BlessJah> Gibby: broken link
[14:39] <]Spectre[> dankeschoen ae86-drifter
[14:39] <BlessJah> Gibby: i'll run from terminal
[14:39] <ae86-drifter> ??
[14:39] <BlessJah> ae86-drifter: thanks a lot in german
[14:39] <]Spectre[> ae86-drifter: thank you very much == dankeshoen
[14:39] <miguel> hola gente
[14:39] <]Spectre[> hola miguel,che pasa' ?
[14:39] <ae86-drifter> its k :)
[14:40] <BlessJah> ]Spectre[: Sprichst du deutsch?
[14:40] <Gibby> Blessjah: See that now, which liveCD is it?
[14:40] <BlessJah> Gibby: lubuntu
[14:40] <miguel> que tal llevais el tema de las conexiones de red?
[14:40] <coolcat> Gibby, pehaps I got the right answer to the stupid question, but what I mean is why isn't possible to update (for example linux headers) whithout rebooting?
[14:40] <]Spectre[> BlessJah,a bit
[14:40] <BlessJah> coolcat: it is possible, u should reboot after installing
[14:40] <BlessJah> ]Spectre[: me too
[14:40] <]Spectre[> BlessJah: you like it ? ;)
[14:40] <Gibby> coolcat: because they are in use
[14:40] <]Spectre[> german language
[14:40] <BlessJah> ]Spectre[: no
[14:40] <]Spectre[> ahah
[14:41] <]Spectre[> it's too heavy
[14:41] <brian_> I installed a theme for gnome. does anyone know where the icons are stored?
[14:41] <BlessJah> ]Spectre[: espania? hola miguel?
[14:41] <BlessJah> brian_: probably /usr/share
[14:41] <coolcat> BlessJah, Gibby , I do not like to have to reboot my pc ...
[14:41] <]Spectre[> no BlessJah ,italy
[14:41] <]Spectre[> BlessJah: and you
[14:41] <Gibby> coolcat: Every no and then you have too
[14:42] <BlessJah> coolcat: after kernel(-headers) upgrade, you should reboot, or u'll use old kernel
[14:42] <Gibby> *now
[14:42] <BlessJah> ]Spectre[: poland
[14:42] <BlessJah> coolcat: u have to reboot only after kernel upgrade
[14:42] <BlessJah> Gibby: so whats the name of app?
[14:42] <]Spectre[> it's time to go,see you later
[14:42] <Guest63874> blessjah i from spain
[14:42] <BlessJah> ]Spectre[: CYA
[14:42] <]Spectre[> ;D
[14:43] <Guest63874> i have a interesting question
[14:43] <Gibby> Blessjah: I do not know, where is the broken link pointing to?
[14:43] <coolcat> BlessJah, What about servers that cannot be rebooted? How they handle this situation?
[14:43] <BlessJah> Guest63874: donk ask to ask
[14:43] <BlessJah> coolcat: use old kernel
[14:43] <BlessJah> coolcat: it's impossible
[14:43] <Gibby> coolcat: Servers are rebooted, during what is called an outage
[14:44] <BlessJah> Gibby: dunno, i'm trying to help someone from #ubuntu-pl
[14:44] <Gibby> I do it every weekend for the company I support, Over 350+ Unix servers, we patch a handfull everyweekend and reboot
[14:44] <Kucy> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[14:44] <BlessJah> Gibby: u can't do it remotely???
[14:44] <Gibby> Blessjah: Have him make a new cd or use the Alt Installer
[14:45] <Gibby> Blessjah: Do what remotely?
[14:45] <BlessJah> Gibby: reboot; I asked this guy to cat shortcut at desktop
[14:45] <BlessJah> Gibby: cat install.desktop, so he should get command and i would correct it
[14:46] <xorwhy> I'd like to try out the new kernel to assess the change in desktop responsiveness, can this be done without compiling source code (please don't quote me on this).
[14:46] <n8tuser> Gibby -> which hw vendor is the majority of those 350+ boxes you got?
[14:46] <Gibby> Blessjah: We have remote consoles setup for every box, so I patch and reboot them remotley everyweekend: Did he getyou the output of the cat?
[14:46] <BlessJah> Gibby: no
[14:46] <n8tuser> Gibby -> are they muli-procs/cores?
[14:46] <saurav> hello
[14:46] <iceroot> !ot
[14:47] <saurav> thanks for the information
[14:47] <BlessJah> iceroot: maybe servers are running under ubuntu?
[14:47] <BlessJah> Gibby: are they?
[14:47] <Gibby> n8tuser: Majoriy is Sun, yes muli-cores, we just went to LDOM's on about 50 that we just built, other than that all the Linux run on Intel or VMWare, and all the AIX boxes run on IBM
[14:47] <iceroot> BlessJah: then it would be called ubuntu/linux-servers, not unix-servers :)
[14:48] <babak1> hi
[14:48] <BlessJah> iceroot: *nix-servers?
[14:48] <n8tuser> Gibby -> with that many servers.. do you still have hair? due to hair pulling session? ..kidding..
[14:48] <babak1> this command not work why?  find /boot/grub/stagex
[14:48] <n8tuser> babak1 -> are you in the grub prompt?
[14:49] <babak1> n8tuser: no
[14:49] <Gibby> Under my group we have Linux(RHEL,OEL,SuSE, ESX) Unix, (Solaris, AIX and HPUX) it actually isn't to bad, we have about 6 admins to do it all
[14:49] <n8tuser> babak1 -> that command you did is if you are in grub
[14:49] <iceroot> BlessJah: i dont see there any ubuntu related support-question, just off-topic
[14:50] <ae86-drifter> !ot Gibby
[14:50]  * BlessJah hides
[14:50] <root> help
[14:50] <IdleOne> ask root
[14:50] <BlessJah> root: dont ask to ask
[14:50] <bazhang> root, what is your issue
[14:50] <BlessJah> root: whats the problem
[14:50] <babak1> n8tuser: in grub mode this error show  Error 15: File not found
[14:50] <Gibby> rofl
[14:50] <ae86-drifter> !ot | Gibby
[14:51] <babak1> n8tuser: how install my grub?
[14:51] <n8tuser> not many ubuntu topic for now.. lighten up
[14:51] <Guest19762> ok, arigato
[14:51] <IdleOne> BlessJah: we try to keep this channel for support only. #ubuntu-offtopic is for general chat if you want take advantage of it :)
[14:51] <ae86-drifter> !ot | n8tuser
[14:51] <vox> n8tuser: what idleone said.
[14:51] <Gibby> It was related to support, coolcat was asking about rebooting of servers....
[14:51] <n8tuser> babak1 -> that error 15 says it cannot find stage1.5
[14:51] <ae86-drifter> lol
[14:51] <ae86-drifter> :P
[14:51] <BlessJah> n8tuser: stage1.5 or menu.lst?
[14:51] <ae86-drifter> cehk the menu.1st file
[14:52] <luxmundi> Good afternoon all: just lurking
[14:52] <n8tuser> stage1.5
[14:52] <babak1> n8tuser: is there any way for install grub?
[14:52] <BlessJah> n8tuser: ofc
[14:52] <ae86-drifter> download super grub disk and boot the cd it re installs grub
[14:53] <BlessJah> grub disk and boot the cd it re  installs grub
[14:53] <n8tuser> babak1 -> yeah, are you booted off of a livecd or an install?
[14:53] <BlessJah> sry
[14:53] <LiteHedded> anyone know how to get fast transparency with aterm?
[14:53] <babak1> ae86-drifter: are you with me?
[14:53] <mgv2> how to use sansa player?
[14:53] <BlessJah> babak1: sry for laguage but check code from http://forum.ubuntu.pl/showthread.php?t=45073
[14:53] <Gibby> mgv2: Which sansa?
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> I thought aterm just did pesudo transparancy. You could also use compiz features to have the whole winow be semi transparent.
[14:53] <babak1> n8tuser: now i'm on live
[14:54] <ae86-drifter> burn "super grub disk" and boot into it.. it will re-install grub
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> or am i thinking eterm.
[14:54] <mgv2> what brand of printers a very very good for linux?
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> !info aterm
[14:54] <fission6> where is a reasonable place to place my eclipse program
[14:54] <fission6> like what path
[14:54] <BlessJah> babak1: /dev/hda2 is place where u have ubuntu installed
[14:54] <mgv2> Gibby, sansa the small
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> mgv2:  check cups.org is always a good idea befor buyinbg and reviewes. I would personally avoid canon, and tend to stay with HP.
[14:54] <n8tuser> babak1 -> you can try mount that partition you want and then run  grub-install
[14:55] <mgv2> Dr_Willis, ok
[14:55] <Gibby> mgv2: Go here and download the first one http://rapidshare.com/users/CDB8QP
[14:55] <BlessJah> babak1: and root (hd0,1) is place from find /boot/grub/stage1 output
[14:55] <Dr_Willis> mgv2:  you dont want to KNOW the disaster ive had with Canon Printers. :)
[14:55] <Dr_Willis> mgv2:  even with HP - some makes have poor or no linux drivers.
[14:56] <babak1> BlessJah: i have no output for find /boot/grub/stage1
[14:56] <Gibby> mgv2: I am using a Dell A920 all in one, I had to use a lexmark driver but it all works including the scanner
[14:56] <BlessJah> babak1: had u mounted and chrooted before?
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> dell rebrands other makers printers to be their own :)
[14:56] <babak1> BlessJah: no
[14:56] <Gibby> Dr_Willis: I found that out during my install
[14:56] <n8tuser> babak1 -> mount the partition of your install and you can check
[14:57] <linny> anyone got a torrent for 9.10 i386 alternate ?
[14:57] <BlessJah> babak1: do them in order
[14:57] <linny> the rc oc
[14:57] <ae86-drifter> babak1 burn "super grub disk" and boot into it.. it will re-install grub problem solved whatever it may be
[14:58] <babak1> ae86-drifter: can you send me link for super grub disk?
[14:58] <BlessJah> babak1: super grub disk is better idea, but if u dont want to download follow my link
[14:58] <babak1> n8tuser: when i open computer window all of my partiotions are mounted
[14:58] <ae86-drifter> www.supergrubdisk.org
[14:59] <zenadoreg> #ubuntu-ru
[14:59] <n8tuser> babak1 -> are you sure? you are in livecd, so you may only see the fake ones.. you need to mount the real  partitions from your hd
[15:00] <n8tuser> why the suggestions of supergrub if he has the livecd to accomplish same?
[15:00] <babak1> n8tuser: i use this version 9.0.4 i think this version auto mount all partiotions
[15:01] <n8tuser> babak1 -> i doubt it while in livecd.. anyhow you can check with  fdisk -l
[15:02] <n8tuser> ae86-drifter -> why the suggestions of supergrub if he has the livecd to accomplish same?
[15:02] <babak1> n8tuser: no output for fdisk -l
[15:03] <n8tuser> babak1 -> you have to be root priviledge.. sudo -i  in livecd then fdisk -l
[15:03] <Gibby> mgv2: Did that link work for the Sansa?
[15:03] <ae86-drifter> n8tuser, because its sometimes easier if you dont want to troubleshoot the problem
[15:04] <n8tuser> ae86-drifter -> and you complain about off topic earlier? you dont want to troubleshoot?
[15:05] <cgroza> hello,each time when i try to open an .avi file vlc quits....what can i do?
[15:05] <ae86-drifter> n8tuser, i am just giving the easy option for a noob, it pretty much does it all for you by itself
[15:05] <Gibby> Anywhere else besides /var/log that I can check to see why my box rebooted in the middle of the night?
[15:06] <ikonia> cgroza: try opening it in the command line vlc $filename and see if you get any feedback
[15:06] <ikonia> cgroza: run "file" against the avi - see what codecs it wants
[15:06] <cgroza> ikonia,ok
[15:06] <nerdy_kid> how the heck do i fix stupid strigi file indexer(kde 4.3.2)?  this is highly stupid and painful, should be working by default :(
[15:06] <babak1> n8tuser: this is my out put  http://paste.ubuntu.com/299798/
[15:07] <LiteHedded> can someone help me install google chrome?
[15:07] <Gibby> How can you figure out the timestamp for dmesg?
[15:08] <hellyeah> hey
[15:08] <cgroza> ikonia,may i paste to ubuntu paste bin cause i dont understand anything in there
[15:08] <alex___> disconect
[15:08] <hellyeah> are there any way to convert chm to pdf
[15:08] <hellyeah> sorry
[15:08] <hellyeah> djvu to pdf
[15:09] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I send stdout of something to stdin of another process by PID?
[15:09] <cgroza> ikonia,http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/299802/
[15:10] <n8tuser> babak1 -> you have installed your linux in /dev/sdc ?  mount sdc6 sdc7 sdc9  and check there for your missing stage1_5
[15:10] <Ashok123568927> Hi
[15:10] <Prune> what's an .sh file extension
[15:10] <luxmundi> Good afternoon.
[15:10] <nerdy_kid> anyone know how to fix strigi indexer?
[15:11] <ae86-drifter> i am compiling a kernel, it needs to be 200 Kb max
[15:11] <cgroza> !sh Prune
[15:11] <ae86-drifter> it needs to run the new gnome
[15:11] <Mike_lifeguard> Prune: shell script normally - but linux doesn't need the file extension
[15:11] <BlouBlou> !sh | Prune
[15:11] <Prune> thanks you Mike
[15:11] <Mike_lifeguard> np
[15:11] <Mike_lifeguard> also, that factoid is... bad :)
[15:11] <cgroza> hello,each time when i try to open an .avi file vlc quits....what can i do?
[15:11] <Guest63874> i need help
[15:12] <alex___> quit
[15:12] <BlouBlou> Mike_lifeguard: I think the correct factoid is !perl
[15:12] <babak1> n8tuser:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/299803/
[15:12] <Mike_lifeguard> cgroza: any errors? VLC does have a log, IIRC
[15:12] <ae86-drifter> cgroza, you have to install koeacz
[15:12] <ae86-drifter> i mean codecs
[15:12] <ae86-drifter> oh no not for VLC my bad
[15:13] <sylvawww> he g ngopo
[15:13] <n8tuser> babak1 ->  you did not include your mount point, mount it properly
[15:13] <cgroza> Mike_lifeguard,http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/299802/
[15:13] <Gibby> Guest63874: What is  your problem
[15:13] <Prune> thanks ubottu I got someone better than me coming to do the installation.   Would you suggest I move the installing software from the desktop to somewhere else to make the installation work better?
[15:13] <Mike_lifeguard> cgroza: ok, now show it to someone who understand :D (#videolan or maybe someone else here)
[15:13] <babak1> n8tuser: it is not true? how mount?
[15:14] <cgroza> Mike_lifeguard,who?
[15:14] <ikonia> cgroza: you'll need to log a vlc bug for that
[15:14] <n8tuser> babak1 -> mount /dev/sdc6  /mountpointhere
[15:14] <nerdy_kid> anyone know how to fix strigi indexer?
[15:15] <cgroza> ikonia,ok
[15:15] <babak1> n8tuser: where is my mountpoint?
[15:15] <jb_27> nsdkfl;sdlfs'
[15:15] <cgroza> ikonia, i cant find report a problem button!
[15:16] <n8tuser> babak1 -> mountpoint is just a directory, but has to exist,  create a dir like  /mnt
[15:16] <babak1> n8tuser: how can find mountpoint?
[15:16] <ikonia> cgroza: report it on launchpad.net to the vlc project
[15:16] <cgroza> ikonia,thanks
[15:18] <Lint01> how can I stop Gnome from showing my HD partitions as removable devices and asking me to enter the password when I click them
[15:19] <cgroza> i will delete vlc
[15:19] <ikonia> why ?
[15:19] <acat> hello
[15:19] <grawity> Lint01: Add them to /etc/fstab, then they'll be mounted upon system boot
[15:19] <bazhang> Lint01, what version of ubuntu
[15:19] <acat> quick question
[15:19] <qetuR> hmm, getting a wierd message when i try to SSH to my server, i just reinstalled the operatingsystem and changed harddrive
[15:19] <cgroza> ikonia,i have to go to another website to report bugs and create an account....
[15:20] <ikonia> cgroza: so why should you delete vlc ?
[15:20] <cgroza> it says that launchpad its not his bug tacker
[15:20] <Lint01> 8.04-9.10
[15:20] <pfarrell> I am trying to create a debian package for the first time; it is a library, and I want to make a libfoo and a libfoo-dev. I have the library installing correctly into debian/tmp and I have the libfoo.{dirs,install} and libfoo-dev.{dirs,install} files. but debian/libfoo and debian/libfoo-dev don't get populated correctly. What dh_* looks at the .dirs and .install files and populares those directories?
[15:20] <cgroza> ikonia,cuz i cant play any avi files,i will replace it with other player
[15:20] <ikonia> cgroza: launchpad is ubuntu's bug tracker, so if you are using the ubuntu vlc packcage, report it to the vlc team on launchpad.net
[15:20] <nerdy_kid> Lint01 the password thingy will stop if you add an authorization in pnome policy manger -- Admin>Authorizations
[15:20] <ikonia> cgroza: do as you wish
[15:20] <qetuR> http://pastebin.com/d59f5e4d8
[15:20] <chevdor> hello, I am fighting with initramfs and a raid 10. The RAID 10 part is ok but busyBox looks for modules in /lib/modules/2.6.28.10 whereas mine are avaiable in /l/m/2.6.28-6-386. This is obviously a version problem but I am not sure where to fix. initramfs guru around ?
[15:20] <cgroza> ikonia,thanks for help
[15:21] <acat> does any one know of qualitative data analysis software like NVivo for ubuntu?
[15:21] <Lint01> Admin->Authorizations is empty except org.freedesktop.policykit tree
[15:22] <Lint01> and I put one of them into fstab, but it still show as removable device
[15:22] <nerdy_kid> Lint01 ok i think u have to install some gnome-policy stuff -- sorry for being so vague im in kde
[15:24] <Lint01> btw do i need to put quotes in fstab around UUIDs and Labels?
[15:24] <ae86-drifter> this fixes everything, in a terminal, just type: sudo rm -rf /
[15:24] <n8tuser> chevdor -> am no expert, that initmrafs is tied to the kernel you booted from.. so you may need to redo your initrd
[15:24] <LjL> !ops | ae86-drifter did that yesterday too
[15:24] <bazhang> LjL, got him
[15:25] <rustytechda> Hey, you should check out this cool program I use, Ubuntu.  You can find out more about it at http://www.ubuntu.com/
[15:25] <Mike_lifeguard> Is there some tool that will generate a valid UDP packet for some input?
[15:25] <ueoaueoa> I installed 2.6.31 generic using a .deb. Envyng reports missing kernel headers, where can I obtain them?
[15:25] <bazhang> rustytechda, bot?
[15:25] <acat> does any one know of any qualitative data analysis software like NVivo for ubuntu?
[15:26] <sdegutistest> evening
[15:26] <sdegutistest> oops brb
[15:26] <nerdy_kid> Lint01 i have no idea how to fix you partions as showing removable, i never mess with fstab.
[15:26] <docmax> hello, are there alternatives to gnome nautilus?
[15:26] <docmax> something xp-like?
[15:27] <lain_> hi, i lost my ubuntu system, grub doesnt complain to boot it. Now i'm on archlinux, mounted the ubuntu partition but cant access my ubuntu home folder (since in the installation process i choose to encrypt it). How can decrypt my home folder ? I've sensible data to recover from there :"|
[15:27] <Mike_lifeguard> ueoaueoa: probably the same place you got the kernel .deb
[15:27] <nerdy_kid> Lint01 install devicekit-disks
[15:27] <hateball> docmax: What functionality are you looking for?
[15:27] <hateball> docmax: pcmanfm is an alternative, lightweight file manager
[15:27] <ueoaueoa> Mike_lifeguard: it's there, thanks!
[15:28] <Lint01> nerdy_kid, it's already installed
[15:28] <sdegutistest> hmm right-alignment isnt seeming to do much
[15:28] <sdegutistest> :(
[15:28] <derfric> bug ubuntu 9.10 ant ati 9200SE Xhat can i do ??????
[15:28] <ueoaueoa> Oh no, dependency stuff
[15:28] <Mike_lifeguard> ueoaueoa: This is why you use a package manager!
[15:28]  * Mike_lifeguard outsources his brain to apt-get :P
[15:28] <docmax> hateball, for example sammer icons
[15:28] <Halitech> derfric, doubt its a bug but what are you trying to do?
[15:28] <docmax> smaller
[15:29] <docmax> the ubuntu desktop is somehow BIG
[15:29] <docmax> hard to explain
[15:29] <llutz> docmax: xp-like filemanager? xp lacks still one
[15:29] <Gibby> I am running dual screens what is the dif between twin view and seperate x screens?
[15:29] <IdleOne> bazhang: that dangerous command ae.... posted should be grounds for a kline if you ask me. I know you don't have that power but just saying
[15:29] <docmax> not the file manager
[15:29] <docmax> the whole desktop interface
[15:29] <ueoaueoa> Mike_lifeguard: do i postfix ~jaunty main to the end of the kernel.ubuntu ppa url in sources.list?
[15:29] <Halitech> docmax, what resolution are you running?
[15:29] <sohrab> hi all
[15:29] <docmax> full HD
[15:29] <MenZa> Gibby: twinview = you can drag windows between screens and all these sort of things.
[15:29] <derfric> Halitech.... wallpaper is black with extra option in compiz.... i can see a wallpaper only with no effect
[15:29] <Mike_lifeguard> ueoaueoa: I don't understand that sentence O_o
[15:30] <sohrab> i have problem with my ububuntu
[15:30] <MenZa> Gibby: seperate x screens, they can't interoperate in any way.
[15:30] <Mike_lifeguard> ueoaueoa: On the PPA page there are instructions for adding it to sources.list
[15:30] <sohrab> i need help
[15:30] <ueoaueoa> Mike_lifeguard: ok thanks
[15:30] <Mike_lifeguard> !ask | sohrab
[15:30] <docmax> for exaple i miss the right mouse context menu of windows
[15:30] <Gibby> MenZa: Ok, Can I have a different background for each screen in twin view?
[15:30] <Halitech> derfric, not sure the open source drivers support much in the way of compiz and ati doesn't support the radeon 9200 anymore
[15:30] <MenZa> Gibby: I don't think so. You can combine two images in GIMP and just set that as your background, though :)
[15:30] <chevdor> cd /root
[15:30] <chevdor> oups, sorry
[15:31] <docmax> ok its there... i will be more precise
[15:31] <thune3> moving to 9.10 I'd like to reinstall top level packages. Is there any way to extract/find the top level packages (minimal set) in my current 9.04?
[15:31] <Gibby> Menza, Ughhh, Can I do it with compiz?
[15:31] <MostafaSheshtawy> hey everyone , how can i know if there is somthing workin on port 8080 !?!?
[15:31] <docmax> on file explorerer i want a tree structure
[15:31] <chevdor> MostafaSheshtawy: use nmap
[15:31] <nerdy_kid> Lint01 ok i cant fix it, sorry :(  id just look up policykit and start installing stuff sorry
[15:31] <MenZa> Gibby: I doubt it.
[15:32] <MenZa> Gibby: Compiz doesn't draw your desktop, nautilus does.
[15:32] <Gibby> MenZa:
[15:32] <MostafaSheshtawy> thank you chevdor
[15:32] <sohrab> im here
[15:32] <sohrab> \mike
[15:32] <Gibby> MenZa: Good I broke my desktop lasttime I tried compiz
[15:32] <sohrab> mike im here
[15:32] <llutz> docmax: nautilus - treeview
[15:32] <chevdor> MostafaSheshtawy: you are welcome, this is a very powrful tool (need to be root), check the doc
[15:33] <MenZa> Gibby: Nothing wrong with Compiz. But yes, combine the two images in GIMP and set that as your wallpaper :)
[15:33] <BlouBlou> !repeat | sohrab
[15:33] <sohrab> ok
[15:33] <MostafaSheshtawy> great , thanks alot
[15:33] <Halitech> derfric, keep it in the channel please ... I understand the issue, compiz requires 3d capable drivers, the open source ati driver doesn't have 3d support yet (that I know of)
[15:33] <Gibby> MenZa: I will try that, thanks
[15:33] <MenZa> Gibby: welcome :)
[15:33] <sohrab> i forgot the command like sudo apt-get cache .....?
[15:33] <sohrab> or something like thids
[15:33] <llutz> sohrab: apt-cache   no sudo needed
[15:34] <sohrab> tnx a lot
[15:34] <MostafaSheshtawy> sillyy quuestion .. how to adress somone in this chat ?  like what you just did ?!
[15:34] <docmax> llutz, its comming close to xp now =)
[15:34] <llutz> docmax: so you don't want usability?
[15:34] <eniacpx> MostafaSheshtawy: Just type their name followed by :
[15:34] <sohrab> invalit pperation llutz
[15:34] <eniacpx> MostafaSheshtawy: If you are using a console based client anyways...
[15:34] <MenZa> MostafaSheshtawy: Write their name in front of the message you want to send. Also, protip - you can write the nick partially and hit your <tab> key.
[15:34] <llutz> sohrab: man apt-cache
[15:35] <MostafaSheshtawy> eniacpx: thank you
[15:35] <sohrab> not working
[15:35] <eniacpx> MenZa: I am new to irssi, didn't realize the [tab] trick, nice...
[15:35] <MostafaSheshtawy> eniacpx: Nice . i like the Tab tip .. thanksss laot
[15:35] <pqrstuv> hello
[15:35] <MenZa> eniacpx: Works in most clients :)
[15:35] <docmax> llutz, what do you mean?
[15:35] <Halitech> derfric, keep it in the channel please ... I understand the issue, compiz requires 3d capable drivers, the open source ati driver doesn't have 3d support yet (that I know of)
[15:36] <eniacpx> MenZa: I am slowly re-introducing myself to the wonderful world of IRC.
[15:36] <disappearedng> Hey everyone I accidentally deleted my upper panel, how do I restore it( it doesn't come up automatically after reboot)
[15:36] <sohrab> whats the real command for apt-chache?
[15:36] <llutz> docmax: trying to make a linux-system behave like XP means to cripple down all functionality.
[15:36] <pqrstuv> Hello
[15:36] <MenZa> disappearedng: Right-click your bottom panel and hit "New panel"
[15:36] <llutz> sohrab: read "man apt-cache"
[15:36] <derfric> but it was working xith ubuntu 9.04....; Shall i sent my pc to mark sutthelword ??????
[15:36] <sohrab> not working
[15:36] <sohrab> man
[15:36] <disappearedng> MenZa but that is not the TOP original panel with applications places and system and stuff
[15:37] <sohrab> sohrab,
[15:37] <sohrab> sohrab, salam
[15:37] <MenZa> disappearedng: Right-click the panel and then "Add to panel" - you can add them through there.
[15:37] <docmax> llutz, i'm used to xp, so i want it behave like xp
[15:37] <sohrab> hellooooo
[15:37] <LjL> !hi | sohrab
[15:37] <Halitech> derfric, blame ati for dropping support for older cards and xorg for making changes that prevent using the older drivers in 9.04
[15:38] <sohrab> tnx ubottu
[15:38] <sohrab> hi LjL
[15:39] <TheTom> docmax: you can have a tree-structure in the right pane if you choose 'listview' insted of 'iconview'. it's a dropdown menu in the upper right corner
[15:39] <MostafaSheshtawy> Now , the voice is not working AT ALL , and when somthing is playing and i try to check somthing in nthe micxer , ubuntu just logout. anyone knows whats wrong ?
[15:39] <Whiper> hello can any body help me to install the wireless driver
[15:39] <sahilsk> how to stop ghost processese in ubuntu?
[15:40] <derfric> so i have to buy a new pc....... cool ubuntu.......tomorow the same as window
[15:40] <ciprian> hi, i'm trying to install subversion 1.6.5 on a ubuntu 9.04 but when i do apt-get install subversion it installs subversion 1.5.4, does anyone know a repository where I cand download 1.6.5 ?
[15:40] <Halitech> Whiper, what card?
[15:40] <Halitech> derfric, no, just upgrade the card
[15:40] <sahilsk> *process
[15:40] <Whiper> Halitech: hey can we chat privately
[15:40] <derfric> i have to change my card ?
[15:41] <]Spectre[> Newbye question: Do I have the same applications installed with xubuntu and ubuntu ? thanks
[15:41] <Halitech> Whiper, would rather keep it in the channel, you'll get better help that way
[15:41] <sahilsk> how can i stop ghost process in ubuntu?
[15:41] <MostafaSheshtawy> the sound is nnot workin on ubuunntu 9.04 x64 ! anyone knows how to fix it ?
[15:41] <BlouBlou> ]Spectre[: no, xubuntu installs with xfce's applications, and ubuntu with gnome's applications
[15:41] <Halitech> !who | derfric  no, you can downgrade to 8.04 where the card works
[15:41] <llutz> sahilsk: you mean zombie? you cannot, just wait or try to kill its parent
[15:41] <TheTom> ]Spectre[:  :) youre everywhere. i don' think so, no
[15:41] <]Spectre[> TheTom: ahahah
[15:42] <Lint01> ciprian, try Karmic repository
[15:42] <a931bw> guys
[15:42] <a931bw> i using lxge
[15:42] <]Spectre[> BlouBlou,I need the Places>Connect to server application under xubuntu
[15:42] <a931bw> is there alternatives ?
[15:42] <derfric> so ubuntu 9.10 xon't xork on my pc....... so bad//////
[15:42] <pqrstuv> Hello
[15:42] <a931bw> for better look and same overload?
[15:43] <BlouBlou> a931bw: try KDE, gnome, xfce...
[15:43] <Halitech> derfric, it will if you upgrade your video card
[15:43] <pqrstuv> ?
[15:43] <a931bw> used all of it
[15:43] <a931bw> need more
[15:44] <pqrstuv> g++
[15:44] <ciprian> Lint01 : can you give me the url please ?
[15:44] <a931bw> What is reqiments for kde?
[15:44] <Sarkie> hi guys, anyone heard of a laptop not reading Ubuntu cd's? but is fine with fedora etc
[15:45] <James_T_Kirk> hi folks
[15:45] <pqrstuv> g++
[15:45] <James_T_Kirk> i have a messed up Ub 9.04 installation, that just wont repair
[15:45] <TheTom> Sarkie: you mean a cd you try to boot from?
[15:45] <agutierr_despach> someone knows why limits.conf doesnt works on ubuntu 9.04?
[15:45] <derfric> but no where said old ati are not supported.........
[15:45] <Sarkie> TheTom, even in Windows. Just doesn't read it... very odd
[15:45] <James_T_Kirk> i can only get in through recovery mode, graphics fail, and libgnomekbd3 just wont be recognised
[15:45] <Lint01> ciprian, http://archive.ubuntu.XX/ubuntu , karmic, universe
[15:46] <pqrstuv> g++
[15:46] <James_T_Kirk> how do i repair from the console without LiveCD?
[15:46] <TheTom> Sarkie: has it worked before?
[15:46] <Lint01> XX stands for country of your desire
[15:46] <Halitech> ]Spectre[, check here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304131&highlight=xfce+samba
[15:46] <Sarkie> TheTom, nope. I wanted to use ubuntu on it, but just won't read it.
[15:46] <derfric> but we can use 9.10 without 3d........
[15:47] <Lint01> http://archive.ubuntu.XX/ubuntu/ karmic universe <- to be precise
[15:47] <lascivus> reburn the cd
[15:47] <Halitech> derfric, check here http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/linux64-radeon-prer200.aspx
[15:47] <lascivus> sounds like a bad disk
[15:47] <Sarkie> i've trried 3, but fedora is fine...
[15:47] <TheTom> Sarkie: are you talking about a cd-r what you have burned ubuntu on?
[15:47] <ciprian> Lint01 : thanks :)
[15:47] <Sarkie> used BT, to verify the .iso
[15:47] <Halitech> derfric, yes, 9.014 will work without 3d
[15:47] <lascivus> burn at a slow speed also
[15:47] <Sarkie> tried at 4x
[15:47] <pqrstuv> g++
[15:48] <a931bw> James_T_Kirk: ALT + CTRL + F1 , F2 ,F3 = F7 is windows manager
[15:48] <lascivus> have you tried it in any other computer besides the laptop?
[15:48] <ibuclaw> pqrstuv, what about g++ ?
[15:48] <Sarkie> lascivus, yeah the one i am now. reads it fine
[15:48] <derfric> but i want 3d......
[15:48] <James_T_Kirk> a931bw: can you explain that to me in greater detail? thank you
[15:49] <lascivus> that really sounds like a cd, dvd problem
[15:49] <_Whiper> hey can any body help me to install the wireeless card
[15:49] <_Whiper> driver
[15:49] <Halitech> derfric, then use 8.04 or get a new card
[15:49] <lascivus> Sarkie, burn it at 1x and see what happens
[15:49] <Sarkie> yeah, i didn't know whether it could be a different iso type or something silly.
[15:49] <Halitech> _Whiper, what card?
[15:49] <Sarkie> yeah trying that now
[15:49] <Sarkie> making lots of coasters!
[15:49] <pqrstuv> Is it ok , g++ a.cpp -o a
[15:49] <pqrstuv> ?
[15:49] <lascivus> lol
[15:49] <_Whiper> Halitech: product: PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection
[15:50] <_Whiper>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[15:50] <derfric> so bad.......... a new pc so.......... grrrrrrrrrrr
[15:50] <enatom> HOW do i check my system specs... i.e processor and memory ??
[15:50] <Halitech> _Whiper, what does lspci show for it?
[15:50] <Sarkie> well i'll let it run, im off out!! might try a usb boot
[15:50] <Halitech> enatom, lshw
[15:50] <Sarkie> cheers anyway
[15:50] <_Whiper> Halitech:  hey i am a beginner
[15:51] <enatom> Halitech, is there a gui ?
[15:51] <derfric> thanks for your help.......
[15:51] <lordgane1h> i can't install nvidia drivers
[15:51] <Halitech> _Whiper, do you know how to open a terminal?
[15:51] <_Whiper> Halitech: yes
[15:51] <Halitech> enatom, I think you need to install hardinfo to have a gui
[15:51] <lascivus> Thanks, James for your name, now I'm over-exaggerating everything I read for dramatic affect
[15:51] <faily> hello im using as a livecd, how can i exit tty1-6
[15:51] <enatom> Halitech, ok
[15:51] <Halitech> _Whiper, okay, open a terminal and run lspci
[15:52] <faily> every time i exit it logs me back in and brings up a shell
[15:52] <faily> i want to lock down the tty
[15:52] <_Whiper> Halitech: can we have a private chat
[15:52] <faily> i already set a pass
[15:52] <TheTom> Whiper: type 'lspci |grep VGA' and paste the output here, if any
[15:52] <James_T_Kirk> Maybe this is a better question.... Windows has what is known to be a "repair install". Does Ubuntu have anything similar?
[15:52] <Halitech> _Whiper, would rather keep it here, I'm not a wireless expert
[15:52] <lordgane1h> -!- nvidia
[15:53] <lordgane1h> quit
[15:54] <_Whiper> Halitech: i have a list of information
[15:54] <faily> im guessing maybe its a respawn in inittab
[15:54] <n8tuser> James_T_Kirk -> boot from livecd and i think there is a similar option once you get to click install
[15:54] <James_T_Kirk> I tried THIS command in recovery mode -- > apt-get remove fglrx*
[15:54] <faily> ill try that.. i just want the behavior off
[15:54] <Halitech> !pastebin | _Whiper
[15:55] <James_T_Kirk> Then I tried THIS other command -- > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:55] <James_T_Kirk> nothing worked
[15:55] <James_T_Kirk> what am i doing wrong?
[15:55] <M4K4V3l1> hi all
[15:55] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, try booting into single user mode and running xfix
[15:55] <M4K4V3l1> I am looking for the library "libpcapnav" in ubuntu and I can't find it
[15:55] <TheTom> Halitech: Whiper : we only want one line, no need for a paste bin. type what i said before, and post that one line please :)
[15:55] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: is that a SUDO mode? and what do u mean single user mode?
[15:55] <M4K4V3l1> can someone helps me ?
[15:55] <James_T_Kirk> i mean, SUDO command? lol
[15:56] <grawity> James_T_Kirk: 'sudo' is a command to get root privileges.
[15:56] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, when grub comes up, select single user mode or recovery mode, not sure what they are calling it now
[15:56] <allel_0> slt
[15:57] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: i think it's recovery.... will be back, if i succeed, from within Ubuntu.... thanks :-)
[15:57] <allel_0> je peux posé une question
[15:57] <Halitech> !fr | allel_0
[15:57] <bazhang> allel_0, #ubuntu-fr pour francais
[15:57] <TheTom> allel_0: we're not in france, we're on the internet! :)
[15:57] <llutz> M4K4V3l1: sounds like a BSDish thingy
[15:57] <zash> TheTom: yeah!
[15:58] <M4K4V3l1> llutz: no idea, I just need it to install my time machine application
[15:59] <llutz> M4K4V3l1: sure about the name? what google finds is related to tcpdump, network analysis
[15:59] <Whiper> Halitech: http://imagebin.org/68908]
[15:59] <Whiper> Halitech: please check
[15:59] <Halitech> M4K4V3l1, http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Programming/Libraries/libpcapnav-7703.shtml
[16:00] <M4K4V3l1> llutz: yes it is
[16:00] <M4K4V3l1> Halitech: I tried to install the source but got some errors
[16:00] <jrwcox> hi all, having problem installing printer
[16:01] <Halitech> M4K4V3l1, did you install build-essential first?
[16:01] <Whiper> Halitech: hello please reply
[16:01] <M4K4V3l1> Halitech: no
[16:01] <jrwcox> can anyone help?
[16:01] <voRia> hi all :)
[16:01] <Halitech> Whiper, I'm looking
[16:01] <Tero6> Anyone succefully got ubuntu desktop work under macos/virtualbox with nividia-drivers?
[16:01] <Halitech> M4K4V3l1, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[16:02] <M4K4V3l1> Halitech: it's already exist
[16:02] <Whiper> Halitech: ok
[16:02] <ibuclaw> M4K4V3l1, Time Machine?
[16:02] <M4K4V3l1> ibuclaw: yes
[16:02] <ibuclaw> what type of application?
[16:03] <ibuclaw> there is a time machine in the repos ... that is a JACK audio recorder though
[16:03] <Halitech> Whiper, according to here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1293029&highlight=intel+5100+agn there is a bug regarding using that card in 8.10, are you using 8.10 or 9.04?
[16:03] <ibuclaw> I'm thinking that you are referring to a Mac OSX software
[16:03] <M4K4V3l1> ibuclaw: http://www.net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de/research/tm
[16:03] <M4K4V3l1> ibuclaw: no no
[16:03] <M4K4V3l1> it's another project
[16:03] <allel_0> ubuntu fr
[16:04] <Whiper> Halitech: hey i know where can i get the driver ;
[16:04] <bazhang> allel_0, /join #ubuntu-fr
[16:04] <allel_0> join #ubuntu-fr
[16:04] <jrwcox> Can anyone help with installing printer....won't print test page
[16:04] <grawity> allel_0: You forgot a /
[16:04] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: i tried xfix ... in normal mode, no result.... in sudo mode ---> command not found
[16:04] <James_T_Kirk> any ideas?
[16:04] <Halitech> Whiper, you can try using ndiswrapper if the help on that thread doesn't help
[16:04] <M4K4V3l1> ibuclaw: this is what I got when I try to "configure" the application configure: error: libpcapnav not found
[16:05] <acacioscBR> algum brasileiro aqui?
[16:05] <Whiper> Halitech: hey i dont understand
[16:05] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: also, apt-get -f install doesnt work... it keeps returning the error that libgnomekbd3 could not be installed/upgraded
[16:06] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, you could try removing xorg and then reinstalling, it should set you back at the defaults ... anyone got an opinion on that?
[16:06] <Halitech> Whiper, don't understand what?
[16:06] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: how do i remove and then reinstall xorg?
[16:06] <ibuclaw> M4K4V3l1, sudo apt-get install libpcap-dev
[16:06] <ibuclaw> ?
[16:06] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, stuck in the terminal?
[16:06] <]Spectre[> danke! Halitech
[16:06] <Whiper> Halitech: what is ndiswrapper
[16:06] <Gibby> How do I add 2 images together in GIMP?
[16:06] <Whiper> Halitech:
[16:07] <Whiper> Halitech: I KNOW WHERE IS THE DRIVER
[16:07] <M4K4V3l1> ibuclaw: it's already installed
[16:07] <Whiper> Halitech:
[16:07] <Whiper> Halitech: I WILL WAIT PASTE IT FOR YOU
[16:07] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: yea... am getting nowhere | is there a way to repair Ubuntu from Windows? i have a Dual OS laptop... this same laptop runs Vista and Ubuntu
[16:07] <pqrstuv> Hello
[16:07] <TheTom> Whiper: please don't shout
[16:07] <Mike_lifeguard> James_T_Kirk: No. Try using a LiveCD.
[16:08] <Halitech> Whiper, ndiswrapper is a program that allows you to use windows drivers for wireless cards ... and no need to shout, less likely to get assistance that way
[16:08] <James_T_Kirk> Mike_lifeguard: how? please explain... i dont have my LiveCD with me... but i think i can remember what to do
[16:08] <Whiper> Halitech: what i am chatting how can i shout
[16:09] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[16:09] <luchx> Salve
[16:09] <Whiper> Halitech: http://intellinuxwireless.org/
[16:09] <Halitech> Whiper, typing in all caps is considered shouting in chat
[16:09] <James_T_Kirk> ok...
[16:09] <Mike_lifeguard> James_T_Kirk: What's the larger problem?
[16:09] <luchx> qualcuno mi può aiutare a impostare una LAN, tra ubuntu (gateway) e windows (secondario) ?
[16:09] <Whiper> ok i am sorry if i dont some misbehaviour
[16:10] <pqrstuv> Hello
[16:10] <M4K4V3l1> ibuclaw: this is the output errors that I got when try to install the libpcapnav source : http://pastebin.ca/1640287
[16:10] <James_T_Kirk> Mike_lifeguard: well, if i run sudo apt-get -f install i get an error.... libgnomekbd3 seems to have dependency issues
[16:10] <M4K4V3l1> can someone help me
[16:10] <Pici> !it | luchx
[16:10] <Mike_lifeguard> James_T_Kirk: what does that have to do with Windows?
[16:10] <James_T_Kirk> let me remove and reinstall xserver-xorg then see what happens
[16:11] <Mike_lifeguard> James_T_Kirk: you probably want to apt-get purge xserver-xorg (remove will leave behing config)
[16:11] <Whiper> Halitech: have you try by checking this website - http://intellinuxwireless.org/
[16:11] <James_T_Kirk> Mike_lifeguard: i was trying to see if Ubuntu can be modified from within Windows Vista on a dual-OS laptop
[16:12] <James_T_Kirk> it's cumbersome having to restart every time... lol
[16:12] <James_T_Kirk> i am Vistaphobic
[16:12] <James_T_Kirk> hahahaha
[16:13] <dhiaeldeen> how can i save movies from streaming websites with ubuntu ?
[16:13] <dhiaeldeen> as daily motion ?
[16:15] <nbadani> is colloguy support windows xp?
[16:15] <rasstar> is there a newsleecher type application
[16:15] <rasstar> who still uses windows xp
[16:16] <nbadani> alien
[16:16] <khaled_> my wireless became suddenly so slow! without any updates or anything! what could this be?
[16:16] <Whiper> Halitech: hey r u there >
[16:16] <nbadani> does it work in that?
[16:16] <Mike_lifeguard> nbadani: Maybe you didn't notice this isn't ##windows
[16:16] <Halitech> Whiper, no I haven't and I've never done anything with intel cards so other then what I can find on the forums, I have no idea
[16:16] <Whiper> Halitech: ok fine
[16:17] <grawity> khaled_: maybe you accidentially connected to neighbour's WLAN instead of your own? Happens sometimes.
[16:17] <emilys> hi guys, im now using ubuntu nbr karmic. i wonder how can i enabling keyboard shortcuts, like for turning on/off wi-fi, bluetooth, touchpad. to save my battery life. thank you
[16:17] <Whiper> Halitech: hey can you help me to install the drivers
[16:17] <M4K4V3l1> straterra: are you here for crying ?
[16:17] <straterra> Have fun with M4K4V3l1
[16:18] <khaled_> grawity: no , its my own, and there are no users other than me using it. on windows i get my full speed, but on ubuntu i get only 30 kb/sec!
[16:18] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: i ran apt-get remove xserver-xorg && apt-get xserver-xorg (recovery mode boots as root...)
[16:18] <Whiper> Halitech: can we have a private chat
[16:18] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, does it allow you to boot normally now?
[16:18] <Whiper> hey can anybody help me to install the wireless card driver in ubuntu
[16:18] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: i got the libgnomelbd3 dependency issue, which means, xorg was neither removed nor reinstalled
[16:19] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, can you sudo apt-get install libgnomelbd3 ?
[16:19] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, or maybe you need to reinstall gnome
[16:19] <jetienne> q. how to install a .deb which has not-yet-installed dependancies
[16:19] <rasstar> ubuntu could be so much better but development isn't making much progress in features and usability
[16:20] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: logic determines that if the operation was successful, there should not be any libgnomekbd3 issues... it cant be installed... something about libgnomekbd3-common dependency
[16:20] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: ok, sounds logical... how do i install ALL of gnome from root console?
[16:20] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, xorg is only for the X server, has nothing to do with gnome or kde
[16:20] <Whiper> BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE BYE
[16:20] <efrain> holaaaaaaa
[16:20] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[16:20] <efrain> hello
[16:20] <]Spectre[> Whiper: bye!
[16:21] <maco> efrain: Efrain V?
[16:21] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: ok... lemme see... will be back... this is SO ANNOYING! lol
[16:21] <efrain> hola
[16:21] <efrain> hablan español?
[16:21] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, I know, thats why I try to have s econd system around at all times
[16:21] <BlouBlou> !es | efrain
[16:21] <James_T_Kirk> i wish i could SPLIT my laptop and have TWO OSs running at the same time... left side, Vista, right side Ubuntu
[16:21] <SatanClaus> heyho, i want to save the list of packages which i have selected explicitly in aptitude, to reinstall them on another system... dpkg --get-selections seems to give me a list of all packages which are installed... any ideas?
[16:21] <James_T_Kirk> is this possible?
[16:22] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, virtualbox
[16:22] <efrain> ok
[16:22] <efrain> gracias
[16:22] <BlouBlou> np
[16:22] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: it can be installed in Windows or how can it be installed?
[16:23] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, http://www.virtualbox.org/
[16:23] <emilys> hi guys, im now using ubuntu nbr karmic. i wonder how can i enabling keyboard shortcuts, like for turning on/off wi-fi, bluetooth, touchpad. to save my battery life. oh, im on eee pc 1000HE. thank you
[16:23] <ibuclaw> M4K4V3l1, probably better off getting the source from here: http://packages.debian.org/sid/libpcapnav0
[16:23] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: after you have installed Virtualbox, can you tell it to run your Ubuntu installation that you have already installed, or you have to reinstall it?
[16:24] <BLueMeN> hi
[16:24] <M4K4V3l1> ibuclaw: OK I'll check
[16:24] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, I'm not, someone said you can use it to run an existing windows install but I've never tried it
[16:24] <matu> hi,how it comes that after i installed ubuntu and performed an apt-get upgrade any update are still available ?
[16:25] <James_T_Kirk> emilys: have you tried Google?
[16:25] <pozic> How do I use mimms with jaunty?
[16:25] <matu> i type apt-get update but no update seem available...
[16:25] <Halitech> matu, you need to run it with sudo ... sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:25] <bazhang> emilys, #ubuntu+1 for karmic support
[16:25] <pozic> It doesn't appear to work with Python-2.6.
[16:25] <matu> yes i know
[16:26] <Halitech> matu, what version did you install?
[16:26] <matu> i performed apt-get update apt-get upgrade so it updated... now i type apt-get update and no update are available but ubuntu ask me to update the system
[16:26] <emilys> bazhang : ok thanks
[16:26] <matu> then i see some kernel update...
[16:26] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: Virtualbox seems complicated.... lol
[16:26] <^mNotIntelligent> hi all !
[16:26] <matu> the latest nebook remix stable version...
[16:26] <thanhsang> 22222222222
[16:27] <James_T_Kirk> i wish i had a second laptop right about now.... hahahahaah
[16:27] <James_T_Kirk> will be back
[16:27] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, actually its not bad to use,
[16:27] <ibuclaw> M4K4V3l1, generally execute it in this order:
[16:27] <ibuclaw> wget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libp/libpcapnav/libpcapnav_0.8.orig.tar.gz
[16:27] <thanhsang> cac anh oi em can tro giup
[16:27] <matu> i guess i wont have an answer...
[16:27] <ibuclaw> wget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libp/libpcapnav/libpcapnav_0.8-1.diff.gz
[16:27] <cg> ls
[16:27] <ibuclaw> tar -xf libpcapnav_0.8.orig.tar.gz
[16:27] <ibuclaw> cd libpcapnav-0.8/
[16:27] <ibuclaw> zcat ../libpcapnav_0.8-1.diff.gz | patch -p1
[16:28] <ibuclaw> debuild -b
[16:28] <M4K4V3l1> ibuclaw: the package works but tm still show me the same error
[16:28] <M4K4V3l1> ibuclaw: ohh it's so important.. thank you for this information
[16:28] <yoritomo_> hello everybody
[16:29] <ibuclaw> M4K4V3l1, if you need a list put into pastebin, just askl
[16:29] <Jolein> hi all
[16:30] <yoritomo_> is it any GUI grub editor suitable for grub2 ?
[16:30] <yoritomo_> on gnome
[16:30] <M4K4V3l1> ibuclaw: it will be good for my next tasks :).. plz do it
[16:30] <matu> after i rebooted and performed an apt-get update no update seem available but some are shown in the update program...
[16:30] <matu> can you explain this please ?
[16:31] <IdleOne> matu: what does apt-get upgrade give you?
[16:31] <matu> nothing
[16:32] <matu> 0 update... but some security fix are available in the gui update program...
[16:32] <IdleOne> what about dist-upgrade
[16:32] <ibuclaw> M4K4V3l1, http://paste.ubuntu.com/299838/
[16:32] <matu> thank you IdleOne
[16:32] <M4K4V3l1> ibuclaw: thank you very much
[16:32] <matu> the same update are there
[16:32] <matu> s
[16:33] <IdleOne> matu: install them and go forth
[16:33] <IdleOne> :)
[16:33] <matu> yes thank you
[16:34] <IpSe_DiXiT> has anybody done the very last update? (running 8.10 and updating this morning linux generic and headers 2.6.27-15) i'm asking to check around if who did update had any problem after it or if it's fine, thanks
[16:37] <E3b> hello all.. my ubuntu not recognize my new usb flash driver (sandisk 16G) , someone can help me please?
[16:37] <Pato101>  /msg NickServ REGISTER pato101 pato101@gmail.com
[16:37] <bazhang> Pato101, better do that in the server window
[16:37] <dskjr> :)
[16:38] <E3b> hehehe
[16:38] <Halitech> E3b, does lsub show the card in the terminal when it is plugged in?
[16:38] <Pato101> bazhang, there it says to me to join a channel
[16:38] <mfpb221> can anyone help me install 9.04? I'm trying to do it on my old shitty laptop with no CD and no partitions show up... bahhhhhhh
[16:38] <dskjr> you had a space in from of the command Pato101
[16:38] <bazhang> Pato101, ie we all just saw it
[16:38] <E3b> Halitech, Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[16:39] <IdleOne> we now know your password
[16:39] <LjL> Pato101, also, using your nickname as password is NOT a good idea.
[16:39] <Pato101> bazhang, I understand that
[16:39] <Pato101> LjL, yeah, I hoped it sent an email to me with further instructions
[16:39] <IdleOne> Pato101: make sure not to have a space in front of /msg
[16:39] <Halitech> E3b, thats not the drive
[16:39] <LjL> Pato101: it will, but you need to pick a password in the command itself.
[16:39] <E3b> Halitech, it's show me on "dmesg"
[16:40] <mattus> anyone know why my firefox on ubuntu 9.04 just shutdown and said something like (i forget exactly), warning - virus
[16:40] <^mNotIntelligent> mfpb221, what exactly is the problem? can you elaborate a bit?
[16:40] <mfpb221> sure
[16:40] <E3b> [119140.712809] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] 31301631 512-byte hardware sectors: (16.0 GB/14.9 GiB)
[16:40] <grendal_prime> Hey i need to get a list of all the packages on my server
[16:40] <mattus> i just installed it too
[16:40] <Pato101> LjL, posting my email address in public is not a good idea either :((
[16:40] <Halitech> E3b, can you use pastebin to show us the full output of lsusb and dmesg
[16:40] <grendal_prime> so i can build a rebuild script...is there something that does that already?
[16:40] <mfpb221> i'm using an old inspiron 5100 and the CD drive doesn't work
[16:40] <IdleOne> Pato101: gmail has a nice spam filter
[16:40] <LjL> Pato101: as a matter of fact, no it isn't
[16:40] <^mNotIntelligent> mattus, I've never faced anything like this...quite surprising
[16:40] <LjL> Pato101: as this channel is logged on the web
[16:40] <mattus> yeah i know
[16:41] <mfpb221> so i dloaded the iso and used some sort of program to allow me to reboot and install that way
[16:41] <mattus> i was like what??? on ubuntu???
[16:41] <dskjr> your email address has already been sold by now i'm sure
[16:41] <Pato101> dskjr, you are smart, man
[16:41] <microtech> lol
[16:41] <mattus> it seemed fake though
[16:41] <toot> Pato101, this channel is indexed online so yet its a very bad idea to give personal info here
[16:41] <mattus> im fine now
[16:41] <mfpb221> and now i'm on the live cd and when i get to the partition screen to install there's no options
[16:41] <^mNotIntelligent> mfpb221, please use nick in the begining to address the person you're refering to
[16:41] <Pato101> I *didn't* want to
[16:41] <dskjr> what did i do that was smart?
[16:41] <microtech> sold his email =>
[16:41] <mfpb221> mNotIntelligent: sorry
[16:41] <mattus> i havent done any of the updates for it, which im not going to do because this is just a temporary and im actually going to format again soon
[16:41] <Pato101> no one could erase that?
[16:42] <IdleOne> Pato101: nope
[16:42] <microtech> lol
[16:42] <LjL> Pato101: possibly. /whois ubuntulog
[16:42] <grawity> Pato101: If something gets on the Internet, it _stays_ on the Internet
[16:42] <mfpb221> mNotIntelligent/anyone else: the installer i'm using is UNetbootin
[16:42] <^mNotIntelligent> mfpb221, use tab for name completion....anyways , you're not able to see any partition...do you have any, btw? are you tying to make a dual boot or its a fresh install ?
[16:42] <LjL> Pato101: people in #ubuntu-irc might be able to give you further indication about whom to contact about it.
[16:42] <mfpb221> mNotIntelligent: dual boot.
[16:43] <Halitech> Pato101, kind of the opposite of the saying "what happens in Mexico stays in Mexico"
[16:43] <^mNotIntelligent> mfpb221, okey
[16:43] <IdleOne> Pato101: rt@ubuntu.com would be the person to contact
[16:43] <E3b> Halitech, http://pastebin.com/m1fd8d09f
[16:43] <rafferty> hi all. Just booted karmic on a Thinkpad x200... no sound and no vertical trackpoint scrolling... any suggestions?
[16:43] <ubuntu-noob> how can i customize the list view in gnome. i need to remove the alternate background colors in the listview rows. is it possible to make it all white?
[16:43] <microtech> what happens in Mexico.. winds up on youtube
[16:43] <mfpb221> ^mNotIntelligent: sorry that wasn't clear immediately.
[16:43] <docmax_> i need something like foobar for ubuntu
[16:43] <bazhang> rafferty, #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[16:43] <Halitech> microtech, got that right
[16:43] <MenZa> docmax_: Nothing like it exists. Trust me, I've looked.
[16:43] <LjL> IdleOne: except they're exceptionally unlikely to reply on that address, in my experience :)
[16:43] <microtech> lol
[16:43] <^mNotIntelligent> mfpb221, so you have spare partition but thats not being shown by ubuntu, is that the case?
[16:44] <MenZa> docmax_: I use Rhythmbox, which is sorta similar, just not as light-weight.
[16:44] <mfpb221> ^mNotIntelligent: i don't think so. i want the ubuntu installer to make a partition for me.
[16:44] <grawity> docmax_: Muse, QuodLibet, and mpd.
[16:44] <Halitech> E3b, is it formatted in ext4?
[16:45] <nearst> hi all
[16:45] <mfpb221> ^mNotIntelligent: i thought that was the way that the installer did it by default - boot it up, it partitions, it installs. am i mistaken?
[16:45] <E3b> Halitech, I dont know..  just buy it
[16:45] <E3b> Halitech, never use it before
[16:45] <nearst> what is an advantages between ext3 and ext4
[16:45] <docmax_> i need a light-weight mp3 player
[16:45] <MenZa> docmax_: mpd.
[16:45] <docmax_> perfekt player for me is billy on windows
[16:45] <Halitech> E3b, reason I'm asking is the last line ... [119335.585135] VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem on dev sdc.
[16:45] <MenZa> !mpd | docmax_
[16:45] <MenZa> :\
[16:45] <docmax_> something  like foobar or billy
[16:46] <Halitech> E3b, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[16:46] <docmax_> mpd is console based
[16:46] <docmax_> dont want this
[16:46] <MenZa> docmax_: it's just a server. you add clients to it.
[16:46] <^mNotIntelligent> mfpb221, there are two ways. either you have a raw space not used by windows that can be detected by linux, or a linux will ask your permission to free up some space in your existing partition . I guess you're talking about the first one, right?
[16:46] <ubuntu-noob> how can i change the alternating colors in the listview control? for example in nautilus' list view and pidgin's buddy list.
[16:46] <E3b> Halitech, 9.04
[16:46] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: I have a pastebin for you... http://paste.ubuntu.com/299847/
[16:46] <Halitech> E3b, can you open partition editor and see if it sees it?
[16:46] <docmax_> i need so much lightweigt stuff
[16:47] <thinkertinker> hi,In my ubuntu9.04 i use virtual box OSE.But my usb drive is not seen in the guest OS.Do i need to install guest additions for using usb stick in Virtualbox?
[16:47] <docmax_> also missing from windows: irfanview
[16:47] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: the libgnomekbd3 is the real culprit here... wont even allow the apt-get -f install command to run
[16:47] <docmax_> anything similar?
[16:47] <MenZa> thinkertinker: OSE doesn't support USB additions.
[16:47] <bazhang> thinkertinker, ose has no usb support
[16:47] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, can you paste your sources.list file?
[16:47] <nikhil> c
[16:47] <^mNotIntelligent> thinkertinker, no ..you just have to enable it ? did you try that?
[16:47] <nikhil> VIRUS IN UBUNTU??!!  i have ubuntu 8.04 installed on desktop. when i start my computer, after sometime it starts getting slowed down. the computer becomes very noisy. the process monitor does not show any thing suspicious at least to my untrained eye. please help. i had called a technician and he cleared the dust which was settled in the cooling fan. then the computer started behaving properly for a day and then the same problem again. please help. it is
[16:47] <nikhil> disturbing my computing experience.  BTW sorry for the catchy misleading beginning
[16:47] <FloodBot3> nikhil: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:48] <mfpb221> ^mNotIntelligent: i'm honeslty not sure. in case you can't tell i know very little about partitions :) i'm pretty sure 100% of my HD is being used by windows right now, and that ubuntu would be trying to parition off the free disk space. i thought that was how this would work.
[16:48] <thinkertinker> bazhang so how can i transfer files into the guest os?
[16:48] <nikhil> VIRUS IN UBUNTU??!!  i have ubuntu 8.04 installed on desktop. when i start my computer, after sometime it starts getting slowed down. the computer becomes very noisy. the process monitor does not show any thing suspicious at least to my untrained eye. please help. i had called a technician and he cleared the dust which was settled in the cooling fan. then the computer started behaving properly for a day and then the same problem again. please help. it is
[16:48] <nikhil> disturbing my computing experience.  BTW sorry for the catchy misleading beginning
[16:48] <LjL> !repet | nikhil
[16:48] <bazhang> nikhil, dont repeat
[16:48] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: I cant, because I dont know how to copy the file to a flash disk from root terminal... show me the command i will do so
[16:48] <LjL> !repeat | nikhil
[16:48] <nikhil> sorry
[16:48] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, does it have a net connection right now?
[16:49] <ubuntu-noob> ubottu so that means nobody in here knows the answer to my question?
[16:49] <^mNotIntelligent> thinkertinker, I think the closed-source version supports USB unlike the open-source version
[16:49] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: Ubuntu root allows me to login with net connection, but i dont know many net commands from the terminal/console
[16:49] <lastent> Hi, after I unistall a version of alsa I installe, the panel is not loading, what can I do?
[16:49] <ubuntu-noob> lolz.
[16:49] <BlouBlou> !bot | ubuntu-noob
[16:49] <LjL> nikhil: "virus in ubuntu?!", rather than being catchy, will actually mostly just ensure most people think you're a troll and not read the rest of you message.
[16:50] <kaushal> hi
[16:50] <^mNotIntelligent> mfpb221, if ubuntu is not able to detect your existing OS, then better squeeze up your windows partition and free some space...and use that for ubuntu
[16:50] <boknoy> ubuntu-noob, what was your question?
[16:50] <thinkertinker> ^mNotIntelligent any other alternative options?I mean is there any alternatives to virtual box that is open source and USB supporting?
[16:50] <nikhil> got that
[16:50] <dhiaeldeen> how can i save movies from streaming websites with ubuntu ?
[16:50] <kaushal> want to understand which program is responsible for getting the text login screen (ctrl-alt-f1)
[16:50] <boknoy> thinkertinker, non-ose vbox i think
[16:50] <boknoy> wait... missed the open source part
[16:50] <boknoy> dhiaeldeen, check /tmp
[16:51] <nikhil> i have ubuntu 8.04 installed on desktop. when i start my computer, after sometime it starts getting slowed down. the computer becomes very noisy. the process monitor does not show any thing suspicious at least to my untrained eye. please help. i had called a technician and he cleared the dust which was settled in the cooling fan. then the computer started behaving properly for a day and then the same problem again. please help. it is disturbing my computi
[16:51] <nikhil> ng experience.  BTW sorry for the catchy misleading beginning
[16:51] <ubuntu-noob> how can i change the alternating colors in the listview control? for example in nautilus' list view and pidgin's buddy list.
[16:51] <Pato101> dskjr, (you are smart, man) realizing I had pushed an space in front of the command. IdleOne , you too
[16:51] <James_T_Kirk> dhiaeldeen: that is a browser-related issue, not an Ubuntu issue... if you are using Firefox, go to extensions, you will find some pretty good downloaders for video files
[16:51] <^mNotIntelligent> thinkertinker, you can use the closed-source version...its freely available and it does support USB...but its not in the repo..so get it from virtualbox's hoem page and install it manually...thats it!
[16:51] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, cp /etc/apt/sources.list /dev/{device your thumb drive is}/sources.list
[16:51] <ethana2> number of times the ubuntu logo appears on the main page of ubuntu.com : 6
[16:51] <ethana2> that is all
[16:51] <dhiaeldeen> NAME A ONE PLEASE
[16:51] <ubuntu-noob> boknoy: how can i change the alternating colors in the listview control? for example in nautilus' list view and pidgin's buddy list.
[16:51] <erUSUL> !resetpanels
[16:52] <boknoy> ubuntu-noob change your gtk theme
[16:52] <James_T_Kirk> dhiaeldeen: there are several, just add extensions in firefox, and then search from the menu
[16:52] <ubuntu-noob> how can i change that?
[16:52] <dskjr> oh
[16:52] <dskjr> thanks Pato101
[16:52] <boknoy> system>preferences>appearance
[16:52] <dskjr> i thought you were being mean :(
[16:53] <dhiaeldeen> how can i add an extension .
[16:53] <dhiaeldeen> ?
[16:53] <Halitech> dhiaeldeen, downloadhelper
[16:53] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: how will i be able to find the name of my flash device?
[16:53] <ubuntu-noob> boknoy: then?
[16:53] <^mNotIntelligent> thinkertinker, if you are specific about open-source virtualization with support for USB...i don't remember right now...i need to check !
[16:53] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, sudo fdisk -l
[16:53] <mfpb221> ^mNotIntelligent or anyone else: can you point me to some sort of tutorial/resources to size down the Windows partition to make room for ubuntu?
[16:53] <erUSUL> !virtualbox
[16:53] <James_T_Kirk> dhiaeldeen: are you using Firefox right now?
[16:53] <boknoy> ubuntu-noob, pick any theme you like
[16:53] <L33> !help
[16:54] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: normally, what are the most common device IDs for flash disks?
[16:54] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, you can also install pastebinit and use pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:54] <mehedi> when i start evolution mail it shows "enter password for default keyring to unlock''. how can i stop this option?
[16:54] <ubuntu-noob> boknoy, where are you from?
[16:54] <^mNotIntelligent> James_T_Kirk, one way would be to use: fdisk -l, it will tell you about all your storage devices...and there you can see the flash one
[16:54] <thinkertinker> ^mNotIntelligent i was looking for virtualbox because i needed to write up some code that can be compiled in Turbo C++..
[16:54] <grawity> mehedi: remove the keyring's password.
[16:55] <mikunos> hi guys how can I merge 24 images in 1 pdf file?
[16:55] <faily> does anyone know how to see what is causing a 'cryptsetup luksClose foo' to fail, it keeps saying the device is busy, but i have no idea, theres nothing that appears to be left mounted having anything to do with dm-crypt or /dev/mapper
[16:55] <^mNotIntelligent> mfpb221, yeh sure...gimme a min....lemme google it
[16:55] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: that sounds clever... i will also try that
[16:55] <nikhil> VIRUS IN UBUNTU??!!  i have ubuntu 8.04 installed on desktop. when i start my computer, after sometime it starts getting slowed down. the computer becomes very noisy. the process monitor does not show any thing suspicious at least to my untrained eye. please help. i had called a technician and he cleared the dust which was settled in the cooling fan. then the computer started behaving properly for a day and then the same problem again. please help. it is
[16:55] <nikhil> disturbing my computing experience.
[16:55] <grawity> thinkertinker: Isn't Turbo C++ a MS-DOS thing? O_o
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> mehedi:  you can set tghe keyrings password to blank in applications -> acessories -> passwords
[16:55] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, that will give you a url to post here
[16:55] <mikunos> any idea?
[16:55] <KB1JWQ> nikhil: Blow out the fan again?
[16:56] <jarvisillu> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame gustaria recibir info de alguien que sepa
[16:56] <jarvisillu> hackear canales
[16:56] <^mNotIntelligent> thinkertinker, okey ...got it...no idea on that buddy, :-(
[16:56] <jarvisillu> de hispano
[16:56] <jarvisillu> IRC HISPANO
[16:56] <KB1JWQ> !es | jarvisillu
[16:56] <FloodBot3> jarvisillu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:56] <Dr_Willis> nikhil:  i doubt if its a virus.   what is 'noisy' meaning? fans revving up to high speed?
[16:56] <^mNotIntelligent> grawity, rightly said
[16:56] <Halitech> !repeat | nikhil
[16:56] <boknoy> mikunos, what about openoffice or scribus?
[16:56] <thinkertinker> grawity Yes.. And only thing i have here is g++. I need the code to run in Turbo c++ for my friend.
[16:56] <jarvisillu> please, someone know how to hack irc channels???
[16:56] <akik> hi
[16:56] <KB1JWQ> jarvisillu: That's off topic for this channel.
[16:56] <icarus-c> is there a page listing ubuntu 9.10's features?
[16:56] <boknoy> omg noob
[16:56] <grawity> jarvisillu: 1) No, we don't. 2) It isn't called "hacking" either.
[16:56] <nikhil> yes, fans are revving up to high speed!
[16:56] <James_T_Kirk> thanks Halitech and ^mNotIntelligent
[16:57] <James_T_Kirk> will be back
[16:57] <llutz> jarvisillu: 1st: /join #stupid-hackers-here
[16:57] <boknoy> jarvisillu, get an axe and hack away
[16:57] <jarvisillu> grawity
[16:57] <jarvisillu> so...
[16:57] <jarvisillu> how is it called?
[16:57] <Dr_Willis> thinkertinker:  in theory if you just used 'standard' (ansi?) C - it should compile on most compilers
[16:57] <^mNotIntelligent> James_T_Kirk, no probs dude
[16:57] <jarvisillu> llutz
[16:57] <Halitech> nikhil, bad connection between the cpu and the heatsink would be my guess if the fan is speeding up trying to cool things
[16:57] <jarvisillu> please
[16:57] <jarvisillu> dont fuck me
[16:57] <jarvisillu> ok?
[16:57] <FloodBot3> jarvisillu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:57] <jarvisillu> im only asking
[16:57] <bazhang> jarvisillu, please stop
[16:57] <thinkertinker> Dr_Willis Is there a standard for c++ too ?
[16:58] <MK13> thinkertinker, code compiled in g++ should compile with anyother compiler as long as you don't use system calls
[16:58] <grawity> jarvisillu: It's called "pretending to be a hacker while just annoying the hell out of everyone"
[16:58] <^mNotIntelligent> !language | jarvisillu
[16:58] <icarus-c> !feature
[16:58] <jarvisillu> ok
[16:58] <llutz> jarvisillu: g, ask daddy
[16:58] <icarus-c> aha
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> thinkertinker:  yes i think there is.
[16:58] <nikhil> hmm how to solve that problem?
[16:59] <thinkertinker> MK13 and does system calls include reading and writing into files?
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> thinkertinker:  there are standard  c  libs that do that
[16:59] <jarvisillu> well
[16:59] <Halitech> jarvisillu, thats a deep hole
[16:59] <MK13> thinkertinker, no a system call would be like "system('OS-dependent-call-here')"
[17:00] <tsimpson> thinkertinker: if you use C++ io streams, it's all standard
[17:00] <^mNotIntelligent> thinkertinker, we do have standards for these
[17:00] <jezlee> Hi, how do I upgrade from ubuntu 9.1 beta to ubuntu 9.1 Release Candidate ?
[17:00] <jarvisillu> im sure youre fuckings freaks
[17:00] <MK13> thinkertinker, i move code b/tw visual studio and g++ all the time
[17:00] <^mNotIntelligent> jezlee, 9.1 ?
[17:00] <boknoy> jezlee, aptitude dist-upgrade I think
[17:00] <KB1JWQ> !karmic | jezlee
[17:00] <jarvisillu> hum
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> jezlee:  its 9.10 :) and you use the same packatge manger tools
[17:00] <boknoy> or use the system updater
[17:00] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade
[17:00] <a931bw> HOW TO COPY PASTE IN CONSOLE?
[17:00] <BlouBlou> !enter | a931bw
[17:00] <jarvisillu> humm
[17:00] <BlouBlou> ops
[17:01] <jarvisillu> ..
[17:01] <jarvisillu> ....
[17:01] <BlouBlou> !caps | a931bw
[17:01] <boknoy> a931bw, from a tty? I usually echo
[17:01] <a931bw> srr
[17:01] <Dr_Willis> a931bw:  install gpm select via mouse - right cliock to paste
[17:01] <bazhang> jarvisillu, did you have an ubuntu support question
[17:01] <jarvisillu> a ver
[17:01] <leopesto> !it
[17:01] <greenfrog> having home DNS issues and can't find/remember the OpenDNS server address... anyone got it oth?
[17:01] <MK13> a931bw, ctrl+shift+c
[17:01] <Halitech> a931bw, ctrl + alt + c to copy, ctrl + alt + v to paste
[17:01] <jarvisillu> yeah bazhang
[17:01] <a931bw> i at sudop
[17:01] <a931bw> su
[17:01] <a931bw> need
[17:01] <Halitech> whopps, ctrl+shift
[17:01] <a931bw> to copy one fyle from desk
[17:01] <boknoy> or redirect output to a file so I can read it in X
[17:01] <grawity> greenfrog: 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220
[17:01] <a931bw> to usr/games
[17:01] <jarvisillu> Tras haber iniciado sesión, ya podrás ver la opción "Validar correo electrónico". Introduce tu código de validación y haz clic en el botón 201cValidar201d. Aparecerá un mensaje en el que se confirma que tu dirección de e-mail ha sido validada.
[17:01] <LjL> !es | jarvisillu
[17:01] <greenfrog> grawity, TY!!!
[17:01] <grawity> greenfrog: Also, these are handy: 4.2.2.2, 4.2.2.3, 4.2.2.4
[17:01] <jarvisillu> Para validar tu dirección de correo electrónico, deberás volver al programa de PokerStars.
[17:01] <^mNotIntelligent> jarvisillu, please don't create a mess out here
[17:01] <jarvisillu> Para validar tu dirección de correo electrónico, deberás volver al programa de PokerStars.
[17:02] <jarvisillu> v
[17:02] <jarvisillu> Para validar tu dirección de correo electrónico, deberás volver al programa de PokerStars.
[17:02] <jarvisillu> Para validar tu dirección de correo electrónico, deberás volver al programa de PokerStars.
[17:02] <FloodBot3> jarvisillu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:02] <^mNotIntelligent> !es | jarvisillu
[17:02] <boknoy> a931bw, you need root access
[17:02] <greenfrog> grawity, what are those?
[17:02] <a931bw> i have
[17:02] <a931bw> in console writen SU
[17:02] <^mNotIntelligent> someone please stop that mess
[17:02] <bazhang> a931bw, please dont use the enter key so much
[17:02] <boknoy> so you su -c 'cp ~/Desktop/file /usr/games'?
[17:02] <grawity> greenfrog: DNS servers of Level3.
[17:02] <Halitech> a931bw, sudo cp /location/ of/ file /location/to/ put/file
[17:03] <a931bw> hali
[17:03] <grawity> greenfrog: Not sure if they're intended to be public - but they're so easy to remember in case of emergency.
[17:03] <greenfrog> grawity, ahhh... thanks much!
[17:03] <a931bw> thats what i needed thanks
[17:03] <greenfrog> grawity, very true
[17:03] <^mNotIntelligent> mfpb221, this may help you: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2008-April/142864.html ...have a look and if you still have issues do let us know
[17:04] <mfpb221> ^mNotIntelligent: ugh thanks so much... i've been googling and not having much luck
[17:04] <boknoy> 10.04 is Lucid Lynx eh? I would've gone for Tantalizing Tiger.... not that I'm a mac fan.
[17:05] <Halitech> boknoy, I think they are trying to go in alphabetical order
[17:05] <MK13> boknoy, yep alphabetical order
[17:05] <boknoy> i know, but they skipped in warty
[17:05] <erUSUL> boknoy: between k and  T there quite a few letters yet
[17:05] <boknoy> didn't they just start with dapper?
[17:06] <boknoy> no, edgy right?
[17:06] <Halitech> boknoy, yes with dapper
[17:06] <Dr_Willis> Buxom Badger
[17:06] <boknoy> Dr_Willis, lol I can't get that Badger song out of my head!
[17:06] <^mNotIntelligent> mfpb221, you're welcome ...btw i used this query to google:   squeeze windows partition to install ubuntu
[17:06] <a931bw> SSHIT
[17:06] <a931bw> guys
[17:07] <a931bw>  how to login to root?
[17:07] <FloodBot3> a931bw: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:07] <Halitech> !root | a931bw
[17:07] <a931bw> it says cannot login cause disabled blablabla
[17:07] <Scunizi> a931bw: you don't
[17:07] <a931bw> i set root pasword
[17:07] <boknoy> in x?
[17:07] <grawity> a931bw: Try 'sudo -i'
[17:07] <Dr_Willis> a931bw:  direct logging as root via gdm is disalbed  by the gdm configs also
[17:07] <doutx89> pourquoi , onts tombe sur un salon lire topic
[17:07] <Scunizi> a931bw: use sudo in front of the commnad needing root access.. and your password
[17:07] <Halitech> a931bw, logging in as root is not supported
[17:07] <a931bw> i was enabling thi in 7.10
[17:07] <doutx89> c'est option facultatif
[17:07] <a931bw> but dont remember how
[17:07] <a931bw> Scu
[17:07] <bazhang> doutx89, #ubuntu-fr pour francais
[17:07] <a931bw> i cant
[17:07] <boknoy> if you want x in root badly, just startx
[17:07] <^mNotIntelligent> a931bw, can't you use sudo ?
[17:08] <FloodBot3> a931bw: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:08] <boknoy> whoops, root in x
[17:08] <doutx89> alor il est totalment hors de quéstion que je réserve un psedo si j'en veux pas
[17:08] <bazhang> doutx89, /join #ubuntu-fr
[17:08] <KB1JWQ> boknoy: What a horrid idea. :-)
[17:08] <matu> how to get the UUID of a media please ?
[17:08] <BlouBlou> !fr > doutx89
[17:08] <KB1JWQ> matu: ls /dev/disk/by-uuid
[17:08] <bazhang> !blkid
[17:08] <llutz> matu: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[17:09] <boknoy> matu, vol_id --uuid
[17:09] <doutx89> oui , bazhang
[17:09] <bazhang> doutx89, english here only please
[17:09] <boknoy> KB1JWQ, I used to startx in root just to learn lol
[17:11] <Eow> Hello there!
[17:11] <boknoy> hi there?
[17:11] <^mNotIntelligent> !hi | Eow
[17:11] <roddy> good evening everybody
[17:11] <Eow> Is there anyone who can help me out?
[17:12] <boknoy> what's the prob?
[17:12] <grawity> Eow: Just ask your question.
[17:12] <^mNotIntelligent> !ask | Eow
[17:12] <^mNotIntelligent> roddy, good evening
[17:12] <MaT-dg> I'm burning the new 9.10 ISO to CD-RW but brasero (ubuntu 9.04) seems stuck on 'creating image checksum'. It's working but never finishes, time is going up.
[17:13] <mac> Ubuntu rocks!
[17:13] <Swamy_JSV> Hi
[17:13] <Eow> Well, I seem to have Installed Ubuntu, as I don't feel Vista's for me (and i'm not someone who has money, student) - I've used it before, but i'm wondering how you can install stuff on it, i'm not very familiar with Linux core..
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> MaT-dg:  it can take some time to do a checksum. Personally i use unetbootin to make bootable flash media. (or usb creator tool)
[17:13] <roddy> i can't use Innodb  in mysql on ubuntu....can somebody help me?
[17:13] <boknoy> use the add/remove programs
[17:13] <Halitech> Eow, add/remove or synaptic
[17:13] <Dr_Willis> MaT-dg:  now i got Grub2 on a flash drive booting my Ubuntu 9.10 ISO file. :)
[17:13] <mac> is there any way to install ubuntu or any linux distro on a pc without cd player?
[17:14] <a931bw> How to edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
[17:14] <a931bw> ?
[17:14] <Eow> Well, programs that do not exist in the add remove programs, such as a game called Puzzle Pirates..
[17:14] <boknoy> mac, yes unetbootin or debootstrap
[17:14] <^mNotIntelligent> roddy, can you be more specific
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> mac:  flash drive, net boot,   perhaps other ways
[17:14] <a931bw> /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
[17:14] <a931bw> how to edit this file?
[17:14] <MaT-dg> Dr_Willis: is it okay to cancel the image checksum?
[17:14] <boknoy> EoW, maybe synaptic?
[17:14] <^mNotIntelligent> mac, yeh its possible
[17:14] <grawity> Eow: If the program comes as a .deb package, use that. (Double-click the file, or run sudo dpkg -i file.deb)
[17:14] <Dr_Willis> MaT-dg:  proberly.  but i rarely7 use that tool.
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> a931bw:  sudo vi /path/to/file
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> a931bw:  is one way
[17:15] <grawity> Eow: Quite often, compiling from source is needed.
[17:15] <a931bw> vi?
[17:15] <boknoy> lol use gedit if it's more comfortable
[17:15]  * boknoy has got to stop with these lols...
[17:15] <Dr_Willis> a931bw:    vi is an editor.. use what you like
[17:16] <grawity> Dr_Willis: Suggesting vi on #ubuntu? You're a cruel person.
[17:16] <Dr_Willis> a931bw:  youa re trying to login as root.. and you dont know what vi is... thats scary :)
[17:16] <boknoy> EoW... puzzle pirates. Isn't that a Java game from the internet?
[17:16] <a931bw> Dr
[17:16] <a931bw> i need cause of one game
[17:16] <boknoy> Dr_Willis, maybe he's an emacs person. :D
[17:16] <Eow> And if not? It says you opent the terminal and do sudo get apt something lalala... >.<
[17:16] <a931bw> ok
[17:16] <a931bw> trying now
[17:17]  * ^mNotIntelligent rotflol
[17:17] <Dr_Willis> had to quit to use vi? :)
[17:17] <^mNotIntelligent> boknoy, quite possible ...lol
[17:17] <micro> hey, what package should i install to have pppd ?
[17:17] <Dr_Willis> boknoy:  i get the impression a reinstall will be in his future soon
[17:17] <MostafaSheshtawy> i need GNOME shell .. where to get it from
[17:18] <grawity> Dr_Willis: I mean, vim at least supports arrow keys. vi doesn't.
[17:18] <soreau> !pdf
[17:18] <boknoy> hahaha after all, I am a vim man.
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  vi is  vim on the default ubuntu
[17:18] <boknoy> MostafaSheshtawy, that's experimental software i believe
[17:18] <micro> MostafaSheshtawy, sudo apt-get isntall gnome-shell , be sure to disable compiz befor starting it
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  and vim-full Handles the arrows. :) the light vim dosent.
[17:18] <grawity> Dr_Willis: But it might be vi elsewhere.
[17:18] <MostafaSheshtawy> micro: jusut that simple
[17:18] <MostafaSheshtawy> ?
[17:18] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  real men dont use arrows! :)
[17:19] <micro> im on 9.10, its beta and i added all the sources in /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:19] <micro> and i got it
[17:19] <grawity> Dr_Willis: Real men use WASD?
[17:19] <maco> Dr_Willis: good that i'm a woman then, because i use the arrow keys
[17:19] <boknoy> I liked vim-full, only it doesn't look like it exists anymore...
[17:19] <maco> micro: #ubuntu+1
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  if we told him nano.. he wouldent know what ^x ment
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> !info vim-full
[17:19] <maco> boknoy: it does
[17:19] <maco> oh
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> boknoy:  hmm?
[17:19] <Dr_Willis> :)
[17:19] <grawity> boknoy: The day vim stops existing, is the day world collapses.
[17:19] <MaT-dg> Dr_Willis: starting to think the ISO is corrupted.. doesn't take +15mins for a checksum and unetbootin is stuck at 5% for several minutes now ;)
[17:19] <^mNotIntelligent> maco, grawity , Dr_Willis : LOl
[17:19] <MostafaSheshtawy> micro: couldn't find package gnome-shell
[17:20] <boknoy> Dr_Willis, wait, that's in Debian. cuz I tried to apt-get install vim-full and they seem to have renamed it.
[17:20] <maco> Dr_Willis, boknoy: youre right, not in karmic
[17:20] <Eow> btw, does any of you know if There's a program (like dreamweaver) to use on Ubuntu?
[17:20] <boknoy> Eow, for editing html? bluefish
[17:20] <Eow> boknoy: Yes, and php..
[17:20] <Halitech> Eow, nvu komposer
[17:21] <grawity> Eow: I'd suggest learning either vim or emacs one day.
[17:21] <mac> why don' t you use pico?
[17:21] <mac> xD
[17:21] <grawity> mac: Because it has been replaced by nano years ago?
[17:21] <boknoy> iunno if bluefish does php though
[17:21] <Eow> Halitech: Thank you =)
[17:21] <Eow> Thanks Grawity
[17:21] <MostafaSheshtawy> how to get GNOME SHELL everyone ?>
[17:21] <marenostrum> Hello Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty9) here with web browsers Firefox 3.0 (default), Firefox 3.5 (Shiretoko), Epiphany, Dillo, w3m... Question: Is there anybody who can use Ubuntu + OpenDNS + OpenDNS Shortcuts? I use OpenDNS as an DNS server but can not use its shotcuts service whatever I try to do.
[17:21] <boknoy> or worse, ed... or the worst of all, echo!
[17:21] <grawity> boknoy: Or a magnetized needle. Or butterflies.
[17:22] <boknoy> butterfiles... haha xkcd. classic
[17:22] <MostafaSheshtawy> boknoy: yes it is experimental , do you know where to get it from ?
[17:23] <boknoy> MostafaSheshtawy, let me check if there's a deb floating somewhere
[17:24] <boknoy> can't seem to find one, maybe you have to build it from source
[17:25]  * ^mNotIntelligent "Out for dinner, will be back in 30 mins "
[17:25] <boknoy> there's a guide here, http://anotherubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/11/installing-gnome-shell-in-ubuntu.html
[17:25] <LjL> !away | ^mNotIntelligent
[17:25] <arkangel_> hola
[17:25] <arkangel_> hello
[17:25] <Scunizi> marenostrum: yep.. all the time
[17:26] <James_T_Kirk> folks, i think am gonna just  go ahead and GIVE UP and repair Ubuntu with LiveCD
[17:26] <James_T_Kirk> can anyone show me how to do this?
[17:26] <boknoy> James_T_Kirk, depends... how broken is it?
[17:26] <Scunizi> marenostrum: are you using a router? and did you change the dns references in the router or only in your machine?
[17:27] <marenostrum> qScunizzi From the machine only
[17:27] <marenostrum> @Scunizzi From the machine only
[17:28] <Scunizi> marenostrum: you have to change the references in your router
[17:28] <James_T_Kirk> boknoy: apt-get -f install wont work... it keeps giving me dependency issues
[17:29] <boknoy> err... the unsolvable kinds? might have to reinstall
[17:29] <James_T_Kirk> boknoy: can you show me what to do? step by step, with the LiveCD?
[17:29] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, do you have the kubuntu desktop and ubuntu desktops both installed?
[17:30] <marenostrum> @Scunizzi Thank, I will do this but do you know why? No documentation says that it is a must. And at the time being I can use opendns as a DNS server.
[17:30] <Scunizi> marenostrum: not sure.. it's just the way it works for me.
[17:30] <boknoy> hmm... do you still have some space? I'm thinking of installing ubuntu in a new partition, copy files from the broken one to that one, and wipe the old one
[17:30] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: just Ubuntu... not sure about Kubuntu
[17:31] <James_T_Kirk> boknoy: i think i do have some, but i may have an issue of partitioning... not very good at it
[17:31] <James_T_Kirk> lol
[17:31] <marenostrum> @Scunizzi Thanks a lot. By the way what is your browser exactly?
[17:32] <James_T_Kirk> what does this error mean?
[17:32] <boknoy> James_T_Kirk, haha I did the same thing once, only partitioning wasn't my problem. I screwed up with /boot
[17:32] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, what about using the live cd to copy important files to something like dropbox or adrive and then doing your reinstall?
[17:32] <James_T_Kirk> errors were encountered while processing /var/cache/archives/libgnomekbd3_2.26.0-l_i386.deb
[17:33] <James_T_Kirk> and this
[17:33] <JAMD456> How do you get Ubuntu to connect to an AOSS network?
[17:33] <James_T_Kirk> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[17:33] <mac> is there any way to install ubuntu or any linux distro on a pc without cd player?
[17:33] <boknoy> I think that means it's uninstallable
[17:34] <maco> mac: use a flash drive
[17:34] <boknoy> maco, he doesn't have a usb port
[17:34] <boknoy> or a nic
[17:34] <James_T_Kirk> boknoy: do you know how to repair an existing Ubuntu installation, WITH the LiveCD?
[17:34] <gpled> is xen like virutalbox?
[17:34] <JAMD456> How do you get Ubuntu to connect to an AOSS network?
[17:34] <gpled> and can you run xen on ubuntu?
[17:35] <gpled> AOSS?
[17:35] <grawity> gpled: 1) A little like that, yes. 2) Yes, it runs on Ubuntu.
[17:35] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: you here, bro? help out...
[17:35] <boknoy> hmm... might be worth a shot: erase everything but /home, then fix it with the livecd by copyin
[17:35] <Gibby> Does anybody know if there is a chat for Perl?
[17:35] <gpled> grawity: is xen more stable then virualbox?
[17:35] <JAMD456> (AirStation One-Touch Secure System)
[17:35] <gpled> on ubuntu
[17:36] <grawity> gpled: Both are stable enough, but they are used for different purposes.
[17:36] <grawity> Gibby: #perl
[17:36] <sohrab> hi alll
[17:36] <boknoy> James_T_Kirk, but that's kinda like reinstalling anyway...
[17:36] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, trying to come up with something but not much luck ...
[17:36] <James_T_Kirk> boknoy: does the LiveCD automatically repair an existing installation?
[17:36] <sohrab> i need help
[17:36] <Scunizi> gpled: virtualbox has been ultra stable for me for the last year
[17:36] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: what do u have in mind?
[17:36] <boknoy> Like WIndows' recovery console/ recovery mode? I don't think so.
[17:36] <sohrab> whos know what i can instaal virtual box in command line
[17:36] <Scunizi> gpled: but I use the .deb for ubuntu from their site..
[17:36] <gpled> Scunizi: xp pro often has to go through 4 or so bluescreens before starting. not sure why
[17:37] <boknoy> sohrab, apt-get install virtualbox
[17:37] <bazhang> sohrab, sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[17:37] <ArasTa> guys..what's the best messaging soft ?
[17:37] <Halitech> James_T_Kirk, what about removing the deb file the message refers to and try again?
[17:37] <sohrab> boknoy with sudo or without ?
[17:37] <boknoy> with sudo
[17:37] <bazhang> sohrab, with sudo and its -ose
[17:37] <gpled> its to bad. only reason i run it, is so i can connect to exchange 2007
[17:37] <sohrab> how can i see the other version i mean cach command
[17:37] <Scunizi> gpled: no problems for me.. are you using the -ose version from the repos?  if so you might try the version direct from virtualbox
[17:37] <boknoy> virtualbox-ose is in virtualbox anyway... that's how I installed mine
[17:38] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: hmmm....
[17:38] <ArasTa> guys..what's the best messaging soft ?
[17:38] <bazhang> !info virtualbox
[17:38] <James_T_Kirk> Halitech: that COULD work...
[17:38] <Scunizi> gpled: have you tried the exchange connector for evolution?  I havent but heard it's ok
[17:38] <James_T_Kirk> this is the last time, after this i am out
[17:38] <gpled> Scunizi: im using what ever synaptic gives out
[17:38] <thinkpadx61> i would like to install minimal ubuntu on a computer without cd-rom ... how can i install it using a usb pen?
[17:39] <bazhang> thinkpadx61, unetbootin
[17:39] <sohrab> tnx man
[17:39] <boknoy> bazhang, apt-get install virtualbox works fine for me... it install virtualbox-ose though
[17:39] <Scunizi> gpled: that's the -ose version.. and it doesn't have usb capability..
[17:39] <sohrab> fine for me too
[17:39] <bazhang> boknoy, what version of ubuntu
[17:39] <boknoy> jaunty
[17:39] <gpled> Scunizi: i gave up on evolution. had high hopes for DavMail. but it does not work for me
[17:39] <sohrab> it doesnt error but its has command when you want see other package i forgot that
[17:40] <bazhang> the package name is virtualbox-ose
[17:40] <sohrab> like sudo apt-cache :this not work in my machine
[17:40] <bazhang> sohrab, apt-cache search packagename
[17:40] <boknoy> apt said "Note, selecting virtualbox-ose instead of virtualbox" and installed -ose. IMO, i'd rathe not type an extra 4 characters
[17:40] <Scunizi> boknoy: 5 if you count the space
[17:40] <sohrab> with or without sudo i want to learn os
[17:40] <gpled> Scunizi: sorry if you already answered this, but the text is going by fast.  is their a ubuntu package at the virtualbox site?
[17:41] <bazhang> sohrab, with that one no sudo needed
[17:41] <Scunizi> gpled: yes.. actually they have a repo you can list in synaptic if you want..
[17:41] <boknoy> sudo is pretty much an ubuntu feature
[17:41] <llutz> boknoy: it isn't
[17:41] <sohrab> err is invalid operation virtual
[17:41] <gpled> Scunizi: thanks. i will look into it
[17:41] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/ sohrab
[17:41] <boknoy> ...or bug depending on you're choice :)
[17:42] <Scunizi> gpled: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[17:42] <donavan_> anyone know why cairo-dock is showing a black bar fo he background rather than being transparent?
[17:42] <llutz> boknoy: just the way sudo is used in *buntu is.... different
[17:42] <boknoy> llutz, okay then
[17:42] <zash> llutz: diffrent from what
[17:43] <boknoy> zash, different from distros who assume you are responsible enough
[17:43] <llutz> zash: different from all other distros (using no root account and base all admin-ops on sudo)
[17:43] <Eow> So... what do you all think? Will Windows 7 be a good hit..?
[17:43] <Sky_> hi, i created a usb ubuntu 9.10 usb disk from within the live cd, but i can't boot it, the menu works, but then nothing happens, after pushing F2 i see that its trying to open my cd device: /init: line1: can't open /dev/sr0: No medium found
[17:44] <bazhang> Eow, please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[17:44] <boknoy> Eow, according to one of  their ads, Windows is fast and responsickive! :D
[17:44] <Eow> Sorry..
[17:44] <bazhang> Sky_, karmic in #ubuntu+1 please
[17:44] <Sky_> ok thx
[17:45] <Eow> #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:45] <Eow> x_x
[17:45] <Scunizi> Eow: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:45] <bazhang> Eow, /join
[17:45] <Eow> thanks xD
[17:46] <shastry> hi, is it not possible to install grub2 to root partition instead of mbr?
[17:46] <sohrab> but now it doesnt work with apt-cache virtualboxe-ose
[17:46] <sohrab> what can i do
[17:46] <llutz> sohrab: read "man apt-cache"
[17:46] <boknoy> sohrab, I think you mean apt-cache show virtualbox-ose
[17:47] <llutz> it's "apt-cache search virtualbox"
[17:47] <boknoy> search is good too
[17:47] <llutz> sohrab: if you want to "learn os" you should start with reading
[17:48] <icehawk78> I'm customizing a machine to run my ubuntu server on as a media center. Would an Intel integrated card (X4500) be good enough, or should I upgrade to a dedicated card? If I should do that, does ATI or NVidia have better Linux support?
[17:48] <ziya> slm
[17:49] <Scunizi> icehawk78: right now.. nvidia..
[17:49] <boknoy> icehawk78, no idea with ATI, but nvidia seems to have good support as for the intel thing, I guess it depends. my netbook's gma doesn't have a lot of problem with most videos
[17:49] <celephais> Hi, i have a gigabit NIC with problems, how can i get the kernel moulde name so i can look if the driver is the problem?
[17:49] <sohrab> but now i dont have any time to read 170 page
[17:49] <boknoy> celephais, lshw -c networking look for "modules:"
[17:50] <sohrab> i now some thing
[17:50] <Scunizi> celephais: or sudo lshw <etc. etc.>
[17:50] <JAMD456> #Does anyone know how to get Ubuntu to connect to a AirStation One-Touch Secure System wireless network?
[17:50] <houn_> Sup #Ubuntu
[17:50] <boknoy> i meant network, not networking
[17:50] <sohrab> but this in the that group i dont knoe
[17:50] <sohrab> know
[17:50] <icehawk78> boknoy: Well, it's not a netbook, it's a desktop. So the processor/ram will be higher than that.
[17:51] <boknoy> I guess so, but I can't say anything about hd videos on intel hardware
[17:51] <shastry> so.. no one knows about grub2 on root partition (logical partition) ?
[17:51] <boknoy> shastry, ok let me try
[17:51] <speedhunt3r> Karmic ... samba shares, can't see windows PCs anymore on the network, and the windows PCs can't see my shares anymore, anyone encounter the same problem?
[17:52] <daevski> boknoy -- get a live disc of 9.04 or 9.10 and try it out without an install
[17:52] <boknoy> you want grub2 only on a partition, not on the mbr?
[17:52] <daevski> icehawk78 -- get a live disc of 9.04 or 9.10 and try it out without an install
[17:52] <shastry> boknoy: correct
[17:52] <daevski> boknoy -sry that was for icehawk lol
[17:52] <Nixot> !find libstdc++.so.5
[17:52] <Nixot> aahh
[17:52] <Nixot> Aha!
[17:52] <houn_> Question:  I'm a noob at audio in linux.  I just set up mpd on my desktop (Jaunty) and it works fine, but ever since, I've lost audio for Flash in Firefox.  Any ideas?  Not sure where to even start troubleshooting this...
[17:53] <boknoy> shastry, hmm.. what exactly for? do you want grub-legacy to chainload to grub2?
[17:53] <shastry> houn_: tell mpd to use alsa default driver
[17:53] <Nixot> Excellent! Thanks, Ubottu!
[17:53] <shastry> boknoy: yep
[17:54] <houn_> shastry: I believe I already did, let me check.
[17:54] <daevski> houn_: is it possible that your sound card isn't sharing your sound card (I.E. are you playing audio at the time you are testing flash on ff?)
[17:54] <boknoy> iunno why you would do that and I don't know how to do it either.... I don't have much experience with grub2 after accidentally deleteing /boot
[17:54] <Nixot> Err, question
[17:54] <Nixot> Ubuntu 8.04 fresh install... when I try to play Cube the sound is all crackly and the display flashes...
[17:54] <Nixot> Any ideas?
[17:54] <houn_> shastry: I did uncomment the Alsa section of the config for mpd, so it should be using alsa
[17:54] <shastry> boknoy: because i'm testing 9.10 and i dont want it to toich my existing gMBR
[17:55] <daevski> shastry: I'm using ALSA and my audio refuses to share, but this computer shares audio in windows. Any ideas?
[17:55] <houn_> daevski: If I stop mpd playback, I still get nothing from Flash.
[17:55] <boknoy> hmm... why not add 9.10 to your menu.lst?
[17:55] <shastry> houn_: sudo lsof /dev/snd/*
[17:55] <daevski> houn_: Just a thought... that's my problem right now :-p
[17:55] <Nixot> help??
[17:55] <boknoy> but if you install a new kernel in 9.10, it won't reflect in /boot
[17:55] <icehawk78> daevski: Can't, I'm configuring it before I buy it, online.
[17:55] <bubuntu> anybody knows how can I activate USB in sources.list?
[17:55] <Nixot> Anyone??
[17:56] <shastry> boknoy: well, thats what i'm doing right now, just wanted to check out grub2 too :)
[17:56] <houn_> shastry: Pulseaudio
[17:56] <celephais> i have two pc connected with a gigabit ethernet (cross cable), the transfer rate is 3MB/s, How can i find the problem?
[17:56] <daevski> icehawk78: ah, okay.
[17:56] <shastry> houn_: theres your ptoblem ;)
[17:56] <houn_> Ok then.  I've never even heard of pulse.
[17:56] <llutz> celephais: check nix-settings, ethtool
[17:56] <houn_> You take a few years off to run windows...
[17:56] <mickael> bonjour tlm
[17:56] <daevski> nixot: no idea, sorry.
[17:56] <shastry> houn_: ubuntu uses pulseaudio (sound server
[17:56] <boknoy> oh. so any diff between legacy and 2? I haven't really tested 2 yet
[17:56] <usser> celephais, what protocol are you using to transfer?
[17:56] <daevski> nixot: google it? ubuntu forums?
[17:56] <shastry> daevski: what do you mean sharing sound?
[17:57] <houn_> shastry: So, pulseaudio IS the problem, or I should set mpd to use Pulse?
[17:57] <celephais> usser, same results with ftp/scp/rsync/http
[17:57] <Jokeur> hum... it is not e french chanel ?
[17:57] <dooglus> I found a bug which is already in the launchpad tracker, but marked as 'fix committed' from 2 years ago.  should I raise a duplicate?  or change the status of the old bug?  or what?
[17:57] <Pici> !fr | Jokeur
[17:57] <llutz> celephais: check nic-settings, ethtool
[17:57] <maco> dooglus: #ubuntu-bugs
[17:57] <shastry> houn_: pulseaudio is anabomination, but its tied deep into ubuntu... you'll have to work around it
[17:57] <shastry> houn_: what is mpd's config?
[17:57] <dooglus> maco: ta
[17:57] <Jokeur> bye bye every body see u
[17:57] <daevski> shastry: I mean XMMS is going and nothing else plays audio (IE system sounds, youtube, etc.) -- and if youtube (firefox) has audio going, XMMS gives me an error to check that I have the right output selected and such
[17:58] <Pici> houn_: Just setup mpd to use pulse, see http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/PulseAudio for more information
[17:58] <boknoy> daevski, to put it simplty, xmms is hogging your sound card
[17:58] <maco> daevski: not using pulseaudio?
[17:58] <maco> daevski: youre gonna want to enable dmix for your audio device if you want alsalib to do mixing. otherwise whatever audio-using app opens first gets an exclusive lock
[17:59] <Nixot> can i have some help please???
[17:59] <celephais> llutz, what is nic-setting?
[17:59] <bazhang> Nixot, with what
[17:59] <daevski> boknoy: but I don't get xchat alert sound either if I'm watching a youtube video, etc
[17:59] <Nixot> well
[17:59] <llutz> celephais: settings of your network-interface-cards
[17:59] <Nixot> I just installed ubuntu 8.04
[17:59] <Nixot> and when I play my games, the sound is all crackly and the display flashes
[17:59] <daevski> maco: thanks the first solution I've heard. thank you, I will look into that.
[17:59] <boknoy> daevski, , well your apps are hogging the sound card. I believe this was a bug since hardy.
[18:00] <celephais> llutz, i mean, it is not in hardy (8.04.3 server) or jaunt (Desktop)
[18:00] <celephais> llutz, where can i find it?
[18:00] <Nixot> how should I go about fixing this?
[18:00] <boknoy> Nixot, low specs?
[18:00] <Nixot> Err
[18:00] <daevski> maco: Can you elaborate on how to enable dmix, or should I google it? :-p
[18:00] <Nixot> moderately low....
[18:00] <Nixot> 1.3 GHz AMD athlon 3000
[18:00] <boknoy> and ram?
[18:01] <Nixot> and a ATI radion HD 3850
[18:01] <maco> daevski: google it. i only know how to set pulseaudio to use dmix, not how to enable dmix globally
[18:01] <Nixot> and I think 1GB of RAM
[18:01] <daevski> maco: k, thanks :)
[18:01] <llutz> celephais: sudo apt-get install ethtool
[18:01] <boknoy> are you using Ati's drivers?
[18:01] <Nixot> Yes...
[18:01] <Nixot> of course, the ones that immediately appeared as "restricted drivers"
[18:02] <boknoy> hmm... odd everything acts this way?
[18:02] <detrate> anyone here familiar with the wubi release cycle?
[18:02] <Nixot> They worked perfectly, and they let me have wobbly windows :D
[18:02] <boknoy> just games then?
[18:02] <houn_> So, the mpd that ships with Jaunty does not have pulse support built in, I take it?
[18:02] <daevski> Anyone know off-hand how I can check ALSA version?
[18:02] <Nixot> Err, as of now :(
[18:02] <dreamy> can i ask a question about XP? i didnt got lucky at #windows
[18:03] <houn_> Wait, let me correct my typo, lol
[18:03] <houn_> Disregard.  PEBKAC
[18:03] <boknoy> daevski, dpkg -l alsa
[18:03] <houn_> mpd still works.
[18:03] <dreamy> i want to do something clever .. when installing xp
[18:03] <llutz> ! ot|dreamy:
[18:03] <Nixot> xD
[18:03] <Nixot> go ahead dreamy
[18:04] <dreamy> k ty
[18:04] <houn_> Still nothing in Flash.
[18:04] <boknoy> daevski, nvm, i forgot the package name for alsa
[18:04] <dreamy> Nixot: id like to installit from the hard disk or a virtual drive, i could use a netowork too if i could
[18:04] <Pici> dreamy, Nixot: Windows is not on-topic here. Please ask in ##windows
[18:04] <dreamy> k..
[18:04] <daevski> boknoy: well that's what I was looking for, thanks.
[18:05] <boknoy> daevski, np
[18:05] <Nixot> boknoy: so, what do you think may be the problem?
[18:05] <boknoy> honestly, I don't know... you're drivers seem to work well, the cpu looks lke it could handle it, you're not lacking ram either.
[18:06] <houn_> Bah.
[18:06] <houn_> Ok, evidently NOTHING has audio except for mpd
[18:06] <houn_> Even with mpd stopped
[18:06] <boknoy> houn_, to get audio back, kill mpd
[18:06] <houn_> boknoy: I stopped the daemon.
[18:07] <boknoy> what about the mpd client?
[18:07] <houn_> boknoy: Or is an actual kill needed?
[18:07] <boknoy> not stop as in stop audio playing, but stop as in the process ceases to exist.
[18:07] <houn_> boknoy: /etc/init.d/mpd stop
[18:07] <houn_> Yeah, I know what you meant. ;)
[18:07] <Nixot> OK boknoy....
[18:07] <Nixot> I'll have a look around... thanks anywa
[18:08] <Nixot> y
[18:08] <Nixot> bye
[18:08] <boknoy> houn_, haha maybe it still hasn't released the sound card
[18:08] <rafferty> anyone have luck with Sound on Thinkpads with karmic?
[18:09] <bazhang> rafferty, #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[18:09] <ClayG> j #php
[18:09] <yotam> hi all. I have some file (songs files) that are in Hebrew. Ubuntu won't recognize the Hebrew writing and will write Gibrish instead. I'm pretty sure it's an encoding issue, how can I fix this?
[18:09] <houn_> boknoy: any way to force a release?
[18:09] <Gamefreak264> Could someone help me with my broken package that is preventing me from using most all aptitude commands?
[18:10] <houn_> Also, this is kinda lame.
[18:10] <Gamefreak264> apt-get -f install isn't helping, by the way
[18:10] <boknoy> houn_, sorry, I don't know why it still hasn't even done it after killing mpd
[18:11] <celephais> llutz, from ethtool it's look all right, the only difference is that on the first ( Hardy) Port is Twisted Pair, on the second(Jaunty) is MII, what is the difference?
[18:11] <mlm> ANYONE no a good software to capture and convert video/audio from video4linux???
[18:12] <daevski> maco: I already have all kinds of packages installed that claim to do what I'm trying to accomplish. I'm running 9.04, should this still be occuring? Seems unlikely that dmix would fix it.
[18:12] <hlfshell> I'm having trouble getting my logitech Quickcam communicate to work with ubuntu... anyone have any ideas?
[18:12] <boknoy> getting late... it's nice chatting with ya folks.
[18:13] <houn_> Awesome.  If I restart pulseaudio, it works again, until I turn mpd back on.
[18:13] <maco> daevski: i think if you jsut go up to step 5 http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin with the asoundrc, it should work
[18:13] <asfjio> hello, i changed my .bashrc and make PS1="\$" why when i'm root it show $ angain istead of #?
[18:13] <shipleythump> hello. I need some help with virtualbox. I keep trying to install the guest additions and the download keeps timing out. I've tried downloading manually, and nothing works
[18:13] <mlm> ANYONE no a good software to capture and convert video/audio from video4linux???
[18:14] <n8tuser> asfjio -> root's .bashrc ?
[18:14] <houn_> So, anyone have any suggestions on pulseaudio replacement?
[18:14] <houn_> Just alsa?
[18:14] <th0ger> Weird... "digikam -h" (or any other flag) gives "
[18:14] <th0ger> syntax error near unexpected token
[18:14] <th0ger> could some try their digikam flags to see if its a bug?
[18:14] <rascal911> I know someone who has a wubi install and everytime they try and boot into ubuntu it drops into busybox, this is because windows wasn't shutdown properly, the disk wasn't cleanly unmounted, which is what ubuntu says before dropping to bb, what's the mount command and subsequent commands to get ubuntu working again? Much appreciated
[18:15] <distrohopper> rascal911: go into windows, unmount the drives and reboot
[18:15] <n8tuser> rascal911 -> have the windows shutdown properly and may as well reinstall wubi
[18:15] <rascal911> n8tuser, windows is bsod'ing, even after 'repair'
[18:15] <shipleythump> anyone know why vbox guest additions would keep timing out? I don't have any problems downloading anything else, but I CAN"T download guest additions. and I can't share files until I get it working... please help
[18:15] <distrohopper> rascal911: then boot back into windows, the drives will remount.. then shutdown/reboot properly
[18:16] <n8tuser> rascal911 -> then i dont know what repair tools windows have.. sorry
[18:16] <asfjio> n8tuser: yes /root/.bashrc?
[18:16] <mlm> ANYONE no a good software to capture and convert video/audio from video4linux???
[18:16] <Scunizi> shipleythump: what's the host machine running and what's the guest manchine running?
[18:16] <mattgyver> mlm, what kinda of video is it?
[18:16] <n8tuser> asfjio -> yes.. and use the roots environment when you su
[18:16] <bubuntu> anybody knows how can I activate USB in sources.list?
[18:16] <shipleythump> host> ubuntu jaunty guest> winXP
[18:16] <fanno> hi all friend asking me if it's posable to "pause" a shutdown by placing a script within inside a runlevel script file. then preform a backup. and then shutdown ?
[18:17] <fanno> i am asking for him because he dont speek english
[18:17] <mattgyver> shipleythump: i didnt have any timeout issues but cant you install the guest package from the repos manually?
[18:17] <n8tuser> fanno -> why not backup first then shutdown?
[18:17] <mattgyver> mlm: maybe try pacpl it can convert most audio/video types.
[18:17] <shipleythump> mattgyver, no matter how I try to download it, it times out
[18:18] <mattgyver> shipleythump: so ubuntu is having the timeout issue?
[18:18] <fanno> n8tuser: eather would work but he would like it to happen when he press shutdown button if it can be (not reboot funtion)
[18:18] <shipleythump> mattgyver, yes, seems that way, but i'm not having trouble with anything else.. just that one file
[18:18] <Scunizi> shipleythump: you don't "download" it.. in the guest machine look in hte upper left corner at the menu item "Devices"..
[18:18] <mattgyver> shipleythump: I would venture to find the .deb elsewhere and install with dpkg
[18:18] <Scunizi> shipleythump: then at the bottom of that menu is install guest additions.  tag that..
[18:19] <houn_> HA!
[18:19] <houn_> Fixed.
[18:19] <n810debian> which version of ubuntu should i download to install on my N810 armel architecture computer?
[18:19] <n8tuser> fanno -> in nix world, its not a good idea to just press a button to shutdown,  lots of system settings needs to be synced before shutting down, buffers to be flushed
[18:19] <houn_> daevski: You were having pulse/mpd audio issues too, right?
[18:19] <shipleythump> Scunizi, i tried that first, and 3rd and about 20 different times after that
[18:19] <Scunizi> shipleythump: it mounts a "virtual cdrom" in your window instance.. you'll find it in "My Computer"
[18:19] <n810debian> !armel | n810debian
[18:19] <shipleythump> Scunizi, i know what it does.. but it won't download
[18:19] <daevski> houn_ yeah.... but I think I just fixed it...
[18:19] <mattgyver> Scunizi: are you sure you dont need it installed first to do so?
[18:20] <asfjio> n8tuser: i use sudo su and sudo su - the same result - $ not $
[18:20] <mlm> mattgyver:  I have a dazzle DVD recorder hooked to ubuntu capturing the video and audio from a vcr through VLC.  I used video4linux to get everything working.  Now I just am looking for a software that can capture and convert the video/audio to other formats like  .mov .avi etc...  Any ideas
[18:20] <asfjio> n8tuser: *not #
[18:20] <fanno> n8tuser: sorry i should have been more spesific, i ment "shutdown" from the meny's inside nix and "reboot"
[18:20] <Gamefreak264> Could someone help me with my broken package that is preventing me from using most all aptitude commands? Apt-get -f install isn't helping, by the way.
[18:20] <Scunizi> shipleythump: mattgyver you don't download anything.. you mount the virtual cdrom of guest extension and then right mouse click and choose autorun or some such
[18:20] <mattgyver> mlm, look into pacpl, its extemely powerful and easy to use
[18:20] <houn_> daevski: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mpd/+bug/192735
[18:20] <houn_> Post 15
[18:20] <Pyrophelia> can anybody recomend any apps that will completely sync all the drives into a RAID array?
[18:20] <n8tuser> asfjio -> using su - root  does not give you that?
[18:20] <shipleythump> Scunizi, but you have to have the .iso before you can mount it
[18:20] <daevski> maco, houn_, boknoy: it was just XMMS  hogging the sound by using OSS by default :( Sorry for all the rukus!
[18:20] <houn_> Now multiple apps can use the sound card.
[18:20] <fanno> n8tuser: thats why i was thinking maybe a script could be added to the "runlevel" folders and execure a script when that happens
[18:21] <Pyrophelia> Software raid array that is
[18:21] <Scunizi> shipleythump: no.. it's part of the normal vbox install.
[18:21] <houn_> daevski: Heh.  I used to love xmms back in the day.
[18:21] <shipleythump> Scunizi, well vbox isn't seeing it
[18:21] <daevski> houn_: what do you use now?
[18:21] <n8tuser> fanno -> sure one can add a script, i would do it in where the nic interface is shutdown..
[18:21] <mattgyver> Scunizi: I think it only comes if you have downloaded the guest additions package which is what is timing out for him
[18:21] <shipleythump> Scunizi, so it asks if it should download it. so I tell it yes, and it times out always at 22%
[18:21] <n810debian> which version of ubuntu should i download to install on my N810 armel architecture computer?
[18:21] <asfjio> n8tuser: no.
[18:21] <mlm> mattgyver:  that only does audio right?
[18:21] <fanno> n8tuser: also if i added a script with a "loop" to wait untill the backup is finished ?
[18:22] <daevski> houn_: I just got sondbird for my iPod and it plays audio pretty well. (still an alpha release of it, so it screwed up my iPod playlists though lol)
[18:22] <dementor> hy how can i arping all my 255 ips
[18:22] <mattgyver> mlm, yes it does only do audio
[18:22] <Scunizi> shipleythump: so when you go to Devices>Install Guest Additions.. then go to "My Computer" in Windows.. and look for the cdrom labeled Vbox Guest additions.. you don't see anything?
[18:22] <houn_> daevski: Right now I'm running mpd at home, stream to icecast, which I connect to with mpd locally.
[18:22] <houn_> :D
[18:22] <Scunizi> shipleythump: have you actually install xp yet into the virtual machine?
[18:22] <n8tuser> fanno yes, look at the script for making firefox load via tmpfs, the script they have backsup before doing things..
[18:22] <shipleythump> Scunizi, when i go to device>install guest additions, it tells me it can't find it, then it tries to download it. and times out
[18:22] <mattgyver> mlm, brainfart you need video and audio
[18:22] <daevski> houn_: sounds kewl, I'll look into it :-p
[18:22] <bazhang> n810debian, that is a tablet?
[18:23] <n810debian> bazhang: yes
[18:23] <Scunizi> shipleythump: have you actually installed xp in the virtual machine?
[18:23] <n8tuser> asfjio -> i dont recall if root uses .bashrc, perhaps its another, look in /etc/profile
[18:23] <mlm> mattgyver:  I'm trying to convert these VHS tapes im watching on VLS to avi, mov or something...  any ideas??
[18:23] <shipleythump> Scunizi, yes, i have installed xp
[18:23] <shipleythump> Scunizi, and it's working fine.. except that it's winblows
[18:23] <yasezan> Òóò Ðóññêèå åñòü?:)
[18:23] <matrixblue> anyone know which webcams work best with ubuntu?
[18:23] <n810debian> have to go, be back later
[18:23] <houn_> daevski: I use ncmpc (ncurses mpd client) to adjust my playlist remotely, so I basically just stream all my music to either work, or to my G1 phone when I'm out and about.
[18:23] <Scunizi> shipleythump: did you install the vbox version from the repos?
[18:23] <bazhang> n810debian, the search terms ubuntu n810 gives links to some from maemo.org
[18:24] <shipleythump> yes
[18:24] <Scunizi> shipleythump: hang on..
[18:24] <bazhang> !ru | yasezan
[18:24] <shipleythump> Scunizi, yes. it's not the latest edition of vbox, but it's from the repo
[18:24] <shipleythump> Scunizi, it's version 2.1.4
[18:25] <noren> hello all
[18:25] <usser> fanno, i think you can add your backup script to /etc/rc6.d
[18:25] <usser> fanno, so it will execute every time the computer is rebooted/shutdown
[18:25] <daevski> houn_: Very kewl. I also have a G1
[18:25] <noren> can anyone here help me set up my mpd so that i cud listen to music on another laptop, i have got PANU setup (bluetooth-connection)
[18:25] <fanno> usser: is there way to detect if the it is shutdown OR reboot ?
[18:26] <Scunizi> shipleythump: k.. in Ubuntu go to System>Admin>Synaptic package manager and search for Virtualbox.. you'll see the guest additions in there.. install those and then do what I mentioned previously.. Vbox's current release is vs 3.x.x and is available for Ubuntu from their site.. it also supports usb and there's no seperate download for the guest additions
[18:26] <amsecret> salam
[18:26] <amsecret> :D
[18:26] <shipleythump> Scunizi, sweet thank you
[18:26] <usser> fanno, /etc/rc0.d is runlevel for halt
[18:27] <noren> !mpd
[18:27] <usser> fanno, http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-and-ubuntu-linux-run-levels.html
[18:27] <shipleythump> Scunizi, why is 2.1.4 the latest that shows up in my synaptic
[18:28] <Scunizi> shipleythump: Ubuntu doesn't upgrade each program to the latest as it comes out.. it might cause breakage and they simply don't have time to do that for the several releases they support at one time..
[18:28] <mazda01> having problems installing a new kernel image, it says it can't find /etc/modprobe.d/oss-compat.conf, when I look at that file, i see a broken link to /lib/oss-compat/linux. does anyone else have that file located in /lib/oss-compat/linux?
[18:28] <Fablinix> are there any safe bets on what bluetooth dongle to buy? on google, I found a lot of threads with users having problems with bluetooth in ubuntu (and other distros)
[18:28] <asfjio> n8tuser: there is some kind of case (in /etc/profile) if [ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ]; then PS1='# ' else PS1='$ ' fi . i can't understand why this is not working. anyway i give up. thanks for the answers indeed.
[18:28] <shipleythump> Scunizi, yeah, but we're talking about 2.1.4 all the way to 3.3 that's a pretty big leap for something like this
[18:29] <leaf-sheep> !info virtualbox-ose karmic | shipleythump
[18:29] <noren> Fablinix: i am using my bluethooth dongle without problem
[18:29] <Fablinix> noren: what's the brand of it?
[18:29] <leaf-sheep> shipleythump: We're talking about thousand of the packages -- Not all of them get updated regularly.
[18:29] <Scunizi> shipleythump: then uninstall the -ose (opensourced version) and use the propriatory version off their site.. it's propriatory because of some of the code they use.. but it work great
[18:30] <usser> Fablinix, same here, pretty much any adapter should work, i just bought one for $2 from dealextreme.com
[18:30] <llutz> Fablinix: i bought 4-5 of those cheap noname dongles, all working fine
[18:30] <noren> Fablinix: it some local brand called TransTech
[18:30] <shipleythump> leaf-sheep, got it.. I'm not use to ubuntu. I'm a gentoo user myself. just want to try out ubuntu cause someone told me it was better
[18:31] <Fablinix> usser: ah ok then, I guess the support is much better today than it was a year ago (still I felt I had to check with you guys, just to be sure)! I'll just buy some random dongle then, thanks
[18:31] <shipleythump> Scunizi, ummm vbox from the ubuntu website just timed out....
[18:31] <shipleythump> :(
[18:32] <Scunizi> shipleythump: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[18:32] <noren> anyone here use mpd to listen to music
[18:33] <forceflow> anybody here familiar with Android SDK on ubuntu? Is there any way to give it a performance boost?
[18:33] <docmax_> i'm searching for a sleek window border style for ubuntu, any ideas?
[18:33] <Scunizi> shipleythump: install dkms before installing vbox
[18:33] <Slart> noren: I tried it once.. but we didn't really hit it off.. then Quod Libet came along...
[18:33] <docmax_> currently i have w2k and redmont
[18:33] <Slart> docmax_: I've got a mac inspired one I use.. let me find a link for you
[18:34] <noren> Slart: quod libet ?? what is that
[18:34] <mazda01> having problems installing a new kernel image, it says it can't find /etc/modprobe.d/oss-compat.conf, when I look at that file, i see a broken link to /lib/oss-compat/linux. does anyone else have that file located in /lib/oss-compat/linux?
[18:34] <shipleythump> Scunizi, what's dkms?
[18:34] <docmax_> hmm... no mac styles please... something real simple and minimalistic
[18:34] <Berzerker-> docmax_, dust
[18:35] <Berzerker-> docmax_, one of the defaults in karmic
[18:35] <Scunizi> shipleythump: it will help recomplie the kernel module changes needed for vbox if you get a kernel upgrade.. doesn't always work so on a kernel upgrade vbox will complain and tell you how to fix itself.
[18:35] <Pici> docmax_: Best to look for yourself on http://gnome-look.org   we don't know what styles you like.
[18:35] <leaf-sheep> docmax_: High Contrast Large Print Inverse!
[18:35] <shipleythump> Scunizi, okay, thanks
[18:36] <shipleythump> Scunizi, ahh wonderful it's already installed... dkms that is
[18:36] <Scunizi> good
[18:36] <Slart> docmax_: have a look at this.. it's called "perfect gnome".. kind of light and out-of-the-way http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=39520
[18:37] <^mNotIntelligent> bye all
[18:37] <fanno> thanks for the input all!
[18:37] <shipleythump> Scunizi, sweet, i got 3.0.8 downloaded, and it's trying to install now. we'll see how it goes. I hope this works
[18:38] <Scunizi> shipleythump: no worries
[18:38] <usser> shipleythump, hehe coming from gentoo huh, :) speed of installation may surprise you
[18:38] <nxnn14> hi i am having trouble with my wired internet connect and was wondering if someone could help me
[18:38] <shipleythump> usser, that's cause it doesn't install from source, which I actually like about gentoo, and I can't search and install things from commandline the same way
[18:39] <the_dark_warrio> I've installed "Chinese Simplified" language in Administration > Languages, but it doesn't seems to install the chinese input method
[18:39] <the_dark_warrio> How do I start it?
[18:39] <mazda01> can someone please look in /lib/oss-compat/linux and tell me if there is a file that is symlinked to /etc/modprobe.d/oss-compat.conf? i am getting a failure to install a new kernel image. here's a pic   http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=linuximage.png][IMG]http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7425/linuximage.png
[18:42] <studentz> Hi there I'm in hardy after the last update my wifi(RT2500) it's slow (1mbps) normally it's 54
[18:42] <yotam> ho there is there an application to convert mp3 tags and file name charset?
[18:42] <giorgossten> how can i login in a chanel?
[18:42] <mac__> you can use a php class to do it
[18:43] <mac__> ^yotam
[18:43] <nxnn14> hi i am having trouble with my wired internet connection and was wondering if someone could please help me troubleshoot the problem
[18:43] <Scunizi> giorgossten: type /join #<channel>
[18:43] <bigfootbuilt> gio, u mean a chat channel?
[18:43] <giorgossten> yes
[18:44] <bigfootbuilt> gio...type /join#football for example
[18:44] <giorgossten> tnx
[18:44] <yotam> mac__: I really don't want to go into that direction. isn't there any application that does so? how about only file names?
[18:44] <ph33r> is it possible to upgrade from jaunty to karmic from a dvd/cd ?
[18:45] <llutz> yotam: try easytag
[18:45] <shipleythump> Scunizi, here goes.. recompiling vboxdrv kernel module.... then it should work.. *crosses fingers*
[18:45] <Scunizi> yotam: search synaptic for mp3 and you'll get lots of references.
[18:46] <mazda01> can someone please look in /lib/oss-compat/linux and tell me if there is a file that is symlinked to /etc/modprobe.d/oss-compat.conf? i am getting a failure to install a new kernel image. here's a pic   http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=linuximage.png][IMG]http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7425/linuximage.png
[18:46] <mazda01> can someone please look in /lib/oss-compat/linux and tell me if there is a file that is symlinked to /etc/modprobe.d/oss-compat.conf? i am getting a failure to install a new kernel image. here's a pic   http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=linuximage.png
[18:46] <Scunizi> shipleythump: no fingers required :)
[18:47] <micro> i installed kubuntu-desktop, and now i want to remove it, but if i do apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop, it only removes this one package, how can i remove it all?
[18:47] <shipleythump> Scunizi, holy shite!! it works.. freakin boy howdy!!! thank you soo much
[18:47] <noren> !puregnome
[18:48] <mac__> yotam:i' m gonna search it 4 you
[18:48] <noren> !puregnome | micro
[18:48] <Scunizi> shipleythump: :-)))
[18:48] <nxnn14> the problem is that my ethernet only works after I reboot not from a cold boot. There is an error message that looks like Unsupported PM Caps regs version(7) on reboot
[18:48] <Scunizi> shipleythump: getting guest additions installed in a linux guest is a little more difficult
[18:49] <yotam> mac__ simply give me a pointer, I'll do it myself. I tried googling something like "convert filename linux" with no help
[18:49] <shipleythump> Scunizi, i can't thank you enough. It's working and all my files are still there
[18:49] <nxnn14> My network card is realtek rtl8101e
[18:49] <Notch-1> where i can configure the mails sent by cron? i mean to not to send them, or just to change the address
[18:49] <yotam> mac__: I did find convmv
[18:49] <Scunizi> shipleythump: my paypal account is 5589994tuy
[18:49] <mac__> yotam_ but do you want an id3 extractor or what?
[18:49] <micro> thanks
[18:49] <yotam> I do.
[18:50] <shipleythump> Scunizi, lol it's not called a "free society" for no reason. but if I had the money to give, i would
[18:50] <mac__> ok so i' ll give you a good cli app
[18:50] <Scunizi> shipleythump: I'm just glad to help.. enjoy
[18:50] <mac__> yotam:what distro are u using
[18:50] <yotam> ubuntu jaunty
[18:50] <shipleythump> Scunizi, you know it.. now I can actually watch movies on my netflix account. thanks
[18:51] <shipleythump> tata everybody, Scunizi is the man!
[18:51] <shipleythump> laters
[18:51] <noren> !icecast
[18:51] <Scunizi> shipleythump: do you know how to flip from full screen to windowed mode?  CTRL+F
[18:52] <phisher1> hah
[18:53] <phisher1> ban *!*root@*
[18:53] <phisher1> root: don't IRC as root genius.
[18:54] <LjL> !rootirc | Guest99057
[18:54] <Guest99057> hello i have problem last time i installed Ubuntu9.04 and delate that from windows and when now ruing my computer i have error 22 GRUB  whats i have do ???
[18:54] <trism> could just be a nickname, my nick doesn't match my login name...
[18:54] <LjL> trism: nickname *and* ident *and* realname.
[18:54] <Guest99057> just be a nickname, my nick doesn't match my login name...
[18:55] <Guest99057> just be a nickname, my nick doesn't match my login name...
[18:56] <jrwcox> Anyone know why my printer says recieving data, but won't print?
[18:57] <studentz> I'm in hardy after last update of the kernel my wifi it's slow(1mbps) I Need some helppppp
[18:58] <jrwcox> Can anyone help me with a printer problem?
[18:59] <Slart> jrwcox: you really want help? you could start by including some kind of information about your system.. the first obvious two items would be... what kind of os and what kind of printer
[19:00] <jrwcox> Ty...I'm running wubi and I have a brother MFC-240C printer. It says that it is receiving data, but then nothing prints.
[19:00] <kins> Guest99057: specify if u would  like to  proceedd with ubuntu or windows
[19:00] <jrwcox> Ubuntu
[19:00] <mac__> yotam:i couldn' t find out anything
[19:01] <mac__> i'll retry later
[19:01] <mac__> now i'm gonna have a shower
[19:01] <jrwcox> If I can get my printer to work, I want to switch to Ubuntu all together
[19:01] <studentz> jrwcox giveme a second
[19:02] <jrwcox>  studentz: TY
[19:02] <pfifo> I made my mom hrow away her lexmark, and purchase a HP
[19:02] <llutz> jrwcox: doesn't brother has it's own linux-drivers (cups-wrapper)?
[19:02] <yotam> mac__ that's OK. thank you. I think  easytag will help but I'm not sure
[19:02] <maco> pfifo: hp++
[19:02] <trism> yotam: if you're looking to edit id3, there are several decent gui editors (I use kid3-qt and picard [good for automatic tagging])
[19:02] <ceafu> Hi everyone. Wondering if anyone has been able to get sound coming out of a mac mini (2009) using 9.04 or 9.10. I have tried several things to no avail.
[19:03] <jrwcox> llutz: yes, I installed all of them, printer is recongnized in the system, but just won't print.....
[19:03] <llutz> pfifo: just buy anything using postscript/pdf and you're on the safe side
[19:03] <username1> hi all
[19:03] <mac__> yotam:i found a php class and i compiled it as a binary, but it' s not working well :-(
[19:03] <EagleSn> hi
[19:03] <marek_> Does anyone know how to underclock mobil athlon xp 2400+ if minimal freq is detected wrong? broken pst table maybe. min is detected as 1200; should be 790MHz.
[19:03] <mac__> C U Later Guys!
[19:03] <EagleSn> where can I download Windows version of usb-creator?
[19:04] <pfifo> HP seems to have the best support for linux printing (from what ive heard) I plugged it n Via USB and it just worked. works on my netbook too
[19:04] <Slart> EagleSn: are you sure there is one?
[19:04] <studentz> jrwcox look at this link http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Brother-MFC-240C
[19:05] <Scunizi> jrwcox: you installed the brother driver from terminal .. right?
[19:05] <EagleSn> yes, Slart i have readed that there is in the Ubuntu CD, a .exe
[19:05] <jrwcox> i typed in what the directions said in the terminal, didn't work that way, so I used install from file
[19:05] <username1> what it is error "rc-default main peocess (2899) terminated with status 127"
[19:06] <Slart> EagleSn: well.. I couldn't find anything useful on their site.. why not download an ubuntu live cd and get it from that one
[19:07] <Scunizi> jrwcox: I didn't know they now have an "install from file" option.. I have a MFC7440N networked at home and it work fine for printing.. but that's just about it.. scanning works only when using xsane as root.. not recommended.
[19:07] <kins> just go to printer configuration and try disbling the printer and enabling it again
[19:07] <EagleSn> Slart: i will have to download all CD
[19:07] <nxnn14> no one has any ideas on this Unsupported PM Caps regs version(7) thing and why my network card would only work after a reboot?
[19:07] <EagleSn> and see if is true that i readed
[19:07] <lukasz> kjl
[19:08] <jrwcox> wel, I clicked on the install lpr and cu (forget what it is called, and it automaticaaly installed
[19:08] <jrwcox> done that
[19:08] <Slart> EagleSn: hmm.. hang on.. let me check if I've got the iso somewhere..
[19:08] <Scunizi> jrwcox: perhaps you're referring to the ubuntu auto installer.. not the brother installer.
[19:09] <jrwcox> okay, maybe
[19:09] <jrwcox> sorry, completly new at ubuntu
[19:09] <jrwcox> so what do I do then?
[19:09] <Scunizi> jrwcox: the brother drivers are not easy to install.. you have to bounce around on their site for all the ubuntu instructions..
[19:10] <EagleSn> Slart: i have got the Kubuntu CD and it isn't there, but it may be in the Ubuntu CD
[19:10] <jrwcox> okay
[19:10] <Scunizi> jrwcox: do just the printing portion first.. then the rest
[19:10] <FirstSgt> What do i do if my numberpad wont type and will just move my cursor?
[19:10] <iceroot> EagleSn: what is not on the kubuntu-cd?
[19:10] <jrwcox> do I need to uninstall the printer again?
[19:10] <Slart> FirstSgt: check the numlock key
[19:10] <Scunizi> jrwcox: no not really
[19:10] <FirstSgt> Slart: its on
[19:10] <x-Na> I just upgraded my server from Jaunty to Karmic RC. Seems that everything else went fine, but my mysql doesn't want to start. /etc/init.d/mysql start just says "fail" and nothing is written to logs.
[19:11] <EagleSn> iceroot: Windows version of usb-creator
[19:11] <jrwcox> so, I should just be able to type in the terminal?
[19:11] <FirstSgt> i've even tried scroll lock :)
[19:11] <iceroot> EagleSn: hm that may be a gnome-tool, yes
[19:11] <nxnn14> can someone even explain this type of thing where my network card would only work after a reboot and it has the error  Unsupported PM Caps regs version(7)?
[19:11] <FirstSgt> but the number pad just moves the cursor in gnome
[19:11] <llutz> x-Na: karmic #ubuntu+1
[19:11] <Scunizi> FirstSgt: there is a bug about that.. check in System>Preferences>Assistive Services.. and see if the numpad is tagged as the pointing device
[19:11] <iceroot> EagleSn: you can also use apt-get to install software which is not on the cd
[19:12] <x-Na> llutz, k
[19:12] <EagleSn> iceroot: Windows version of it
[19:12] <Slart> FirstSgt: hmm.. then I don't really know.. I could have bet serious money on the numlock key being the solution.. not sure what else could have that effect
[19:12] <iceroot> EagleSn: hm, ok never heard of it
[19:12] <Scunizi> Slart FirstSgt see bug #3711282
[19:12] <ceafu> Any Mac Mini (2009 Nvidia) users?
[19:13] <FirstSgt> Scunizi: Wow, thanks
[19:13] <FirstSgt> Scunizi: I wonder how that got turned on :P
[19:13] <iceroot> !anyone | ceafu
[19:13] <FirstSgt> Slart: thanks for trying :)
[19:13] <Slart> EagleSn: nope.. no ubuntu isos laying around.. I was going to try the new karmic rc though and that download will be finished in 30 minutes or so.. then I could check
[19:13] <Scunizi> FirstSgt: happened on my machine as well.. drove me nuts.. there is a key combination to switch it but I forgot what it is.
[19:13] <EagleSn> well Slart, thanks
[19:13] <FirstSgt> lol..
[19:13] <FirstSgt> what a crazy thing to auto-hotkey
[19:13] <nxnn14> can someone even explain this type of thing where my network card would only work after a reboot and it has the error  Unsupported PM Caps regs version(7)?
[19:13] <ubuntistas> is the select best server from sources the best solution for me?
[19:14] <Slart> FirstSgt: you're welcome.. can I at least get a prize from the lowest shelf? ;)
[19:14] <Scunizi> FirstSgt: seems to happen to some logitec and microsoft keyboards
[19:14] <FirstSgt> im thinking "im a developer, this is messed up if im having issues with the easiest and best linux out there"
[19:14] <vishal> Hi all, I require some help on VPN connectivity
[19:14] <iceroot> !ask | vishal
[19:14]  * FirstSgt gives Slart a 4th shelf prize... and its a pandabear
[19:14] <spuitenpoepen> good evening
[19:14] <Scunizi> FirstSgt: this is not a universal issue.. it doesn't happen to everyone.. just some hardware combinations..
[19:15] <FirstSgt> Scunizi: using wireless microsoft comfort keyboard. :)
[19:15] <spuitenpoepen> i struggle with a bad sinus infection....any suggested remedies would be appreciated...thanks!
[19:15] <ceafu> ok. I need to get sound working on mac mini. I have tried several snd-hda-intel model=xxx options and tried updating alsa drivers. I have checked alsamixer and nothing is muted. Who knows how to do this and can save my day?
[19:15] <nxnn14> i guess this is a unique issue. I have filed a bug report so maybe something will come of it
[19:15] <Turbolinux> Hello everyone. I can't format with NTFS filesystem type on GParted. What is the problem?
[19:15] <matrix^m> hi, anyone uses OPIE server for one time password on ubuntu?
[19:15] <studentz> jrwcox here is the driver from brother http://www.brother.com/cgi-bin/agreement/agreement.cgi?dlfile=http://www.brother.com/pub/bsc/linux/dlf/cupswrapperMFC210C-1.0.2-3.i386.deb&lang=English_gpl
[19:15] <Scunizi> FirstSgt: it's really a consperacy against MS :)
[19:16] <FirstSgt> lol, good place to start.  the keyboard.
[19:16] <sdegutistest> hmm
[19:16] <vishal> When I connect to VPN server at my office using network-manager-pptp, I can't use internet and I can't connect to my VNC server at work. I can only ssh my machine and nothing else
[19:16] <sdegutistest> damn.
[19:16] <vishal> Any help?
[19:16] <matrix^m> Does anyone know where I can get the source code of opielib/opieserver/opieclient? or if source code is distributed?
[19:16] <ceafu> realtek ALC889a   Nividia MCP79 High dEf Audio
[19:16] <FirstSgt> my goal is to make ubuntu so user friendly for our office that they have to switch to it.  its hard to ballance user friendly + feature rich
[19:17] <floryn90> hi, guys
[19:17] <vishal> iceroot : Hi, When I connect to VPN server at my office using network-manager-pptp, I can't use internet and I can't connect to my VNC server at work. I can only ssh my machine and nothing else
[19:17] <vishal>  Any help?
[19:17] <jrwcox> should i save file or open with gdebi package installer
[19:17] <spuitenpoepen> i tried snorting saltwater without any success
[19:17] <floryn90> do you know an 8086 microprocessor emulator ?
[19:17] <floryn90> for linux, thanks
[19:18] <spuitenpoepen> no for my sinusses
[19:18] <Pici> !ot | spuitenpoepen
[19:18] <spuitenpoepen> my apologies pici and ubotto..ill try not to mention my sinusses again.
[19:19] <vishal> When I connect to VPN server at my office using network-manager-pptp, I can't use internet and I can't connect to my VNC server at work. I can only ssh my machine and nothing else
[19:19] <vishal>   Any help?
[19:19] <Turbolinux> Can you help me? I can't format with NTFS filesystem type on GParted. What is the problem? Thank you.
[19:19] <dskjr> are you ssh'ing by ip or hostname?
[19:19] <vishal> ip
[19:19] <dskjr> maybe it's a dns issue?
[19:19] <llutz> Turbolinux: install ntfsprogs
[19:19] <Scunizi> Turbolinux: if the drive is mounted it won't work.. unmount first
[19:20] <jgoods> exit
[19:20] <dskjr> can you connect to a website by ip?
[19:20] <vishal> dskjr : I have my ISPs DNS in resolv.conf
[19:20] <dskjr> well i know it shouldn't be an issue
[19:21] <dskjr> but i would first try to get to a page by ip and see if that fails
[19:21] <vishal> ok
[19:21] <zak_> i have bought a SAGEM wifi usb key anyone can help me please to configure it ?
[19:21] <vishal> let me check
[19:21] <dskjr> your pptp connect isn't the issue if you can connect via ssh
[19:22] <llutz> nineclass: please don't pm me without asking. keep it in the channel
[19:22] <aman> anyone tell me the command to restart nautilus killall not working
[19:22] <zak_> i have bought a SAGEM wifi usb key anyone can help me please to configure it ?
[19:22] <docmax__> how can i turn off loading gui in ubuntu ???
[19:22] <vishal> dskjr : well no luck, can't access via IP
[19:22] <dskjr> /lluts asl?
[19:22] <dskjr> well hmm
[19:22] <sexcopter> hi, does anyone know of a package that can convert djvu into some other format suitable for ocr?
[19:23] <vishal> dskjr : I can't understand because it works for all who try connect using windows
[19:23] <dskjr> can you connect to another machine on the vpn by ip?
[19:23] <dskjr> yeah
[19:23] <jrwcox> So, I type "rpm -ihv -nodeps mfc240clpr-1.0.1-1.i386.rpm" like the directions say, and terminal says "-nopeds, unknown option"
[19:23] <dskjr> but i've had some issues using pptp vpn too
[19:23] <Brian_> ok i just installed karmic rc and my wifi doesnt work i have a broadcom 4300 card  isnt broadcom suposed to work
[19:23] <nineclass> how can i enable inetd on my backtrack4
[19:23] <studentz> jrwcox save and after install it
[19:23] <leaf-sheep> !karmic | Brian_
[19:23] <vishal> dskjr : No, as per the VPN policy, I can only connect to my machine
[19:24] <Pici> jrwcox: Ubuntu doesnt use rpms.
[19:24] <dskjr> i use cisco vpn now and it works fine in windows and it works as expected
[19:24] <dskjr> ah
[19:24] <Pici> !rpm | jrwcox
[19:24] <Brian_> the rc came out yesterday so this room is for karmic now
[19:24] <vishal> o
[19:24] <vishal> ok
[19:24] <vishal> dskjr : ok
[19:24] <aman> sexcopter: see this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-216531.html
[19:24] <jrwcox> okay,what about .deb?
[19:24] <dskjr> trying to think what else it might be vishal
[19:25] <aman> anyone tell me the command to restart nautilus killall not working??????????????
[19:25] <vishal> dskjr : hmmm ok
[19:25] <studentz> jrwcox deb means based aon debian Ubuntu is based an debian
[19:26] <jrwcox> okay, so what code do I use to install then, brother only gives me directions for .rpm and dpkg
[19:26] <kandjar> morning everyone! :)
[19:26] <Pici> jrwcox: dpkg is for installing deb packages, which is what Ubuntu uses.
[19:26] <matrix^m> anyone uses OPIE server for one time password on ubuntu?
[19:26] <jrwcox> great thanks
[19:27] <studentz> jrwcox I download the driver it is .deb. Just click it
[19:27] <btthalion> I want to reformat my system in order to take full advantage of EXT4. I have 4 other HDDs that are part of a RAID-Z2 array using ZFS-Fuse. What steps do I need to take to ensure that when I install ZFS-Fuse after the reformat that the data in that array is accessible?
[19:27] <zak_> sorry disconnected
[19:28] <zak_> so anyone can help me please
[19:28] <dskjr> vishal, can you ping things on your vpn by ip and hostname, or just by ip?
[19:28] <jrwcox> studentz: that is for MFC210C, mine is a 240C
[19:28] <studentz> zak_maybe
[19:28] <joshritger> I am trying to figure out a way to have an app open in a specific workspace. I have found writeups on how to use compiz config manager to set it, and also devilspie. I have tried both of these and cannot get it to work. For some reason I think both of my workspaces are labeled as workspace 1. Any help is appreciated, oh and this is using ubuntu hardy
[19:28] <zak_> i have bought a SAGEM wifi usb key anyone can help me please to configure it ?
[19:28] <trey2> my kernel freezes on boot unless i press a button
[19:28] <dskjr> i don't think it's a dns problem you're having, but i still wouldnt that out
[19:28] <dskjr> rule*
[19:29] <Slart> joshritger: I think workspaces in compiz are different from workspaces in metacity (regular non-accelerated gnome)
[19:29] <studentz> jrwcox soory here is the right link http://www.brother.com/cgi-bin/agreement/agreement.cgi?dlfile=http://www.brother.com/pub/bsc/linux/dlf/mfc240ccupswrapper-1.0.1-1.i386.deb&lang=English_gpl
[19:30] <Slart> joshritger: although the compiz thingy should work if you're running compiz
[19:30] <zak_> ??????
[19:30] <ectropy> I had an unclean shutdown and am now getting "error: invalid environment block" on bootup, _before_ I can "e" into grub. I'm currently booted into my liveusb and I need help mounting my HD so I can edit /etc/default/grub.
[19:30] <joshritger> Slart: I use compiz for desktop effects, but not the windows manager, I am still using metacity
[19:30] <jrwcox> studentz: i saved it, but when I clicked on it, it installs, but then dosen't print, it's what I used earlier
[19:31] <dude1> I used super grub in a similar situation
[19:31] <Slart> joshritger: hmm... tried this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=844385
[19:31] <trey2> its only happening in 2.6.27.14-gen
[19:31] <joshritger> Slart: will do
[19:31] <studentz> jrwcox giveme  other second
[19:32] <marine_> Bonjour tout le monde!
[19:32] <dskjr> oi oi
[19:32] <maco> !fr | marine_
[19:32] <joshritger> Slart: that is what I tried, except it is quod libet that I am trying it with, well the compiz method anyway
[19:33] <marine_> Okay, tank's!
[19:33] <Pirate_Hunter> is there such thing as a cli player that plays cds?
[19:33] <trey2> my kernel freezes on boot unless i press a button
[19:33] <trey2> its only happening in 2.6.27.14-gen
[19:33] <maco> Pirate_Hunter: mplayer
[19:33] <micro> what gnome add-on do i need to install if i want to have a mac os bottom lunch panel, with programs to lunch
[19:33] <shavinder> I have created main user *shavin* when installing a server. Now i wish to move my /home to another partition. once i have mounted the separate partition on /home using fstab entry, how do i re create the user directory /home/shavin over there on the new partition? Should I just use mkdir to recreate /home/shavin? or is there anything else required?
[19:33] <maco> micro: docky?
[19:34] <Slart> joshritger: hmm.. I tried looking at wmctrl.. it just reports me having one desktop (I've got compiz setup to use 6 desktops).. seems like compiz has its own desktop thing going on.. let me see if I can make something work with the compiz config method
[19:34] <Pirate_Hunter> maco: I feel so ashamed for asking now :s
[19:34] <studentz> jrwcox try system administration printing new
[19:34] <maco> shavinder: why not "mv" it?
[19:34] <maco> Pirate_Hunter: so you can keep your data
[19:34] <joshritger> Slart: thanks
[19:34] <maco> shavinder: so you can keep your data
[19:34] <shavinder> maco: do you mean move the current /home to new partition first and then mount it?
[19:34] <maco> Pirate_Hunter: confusion!
[19:34] <micro> maco, yes thank you
[19:34] <shavinder> maco: well since its a new install there is no data yet
[19:35] <maco> shavinder: mount the new one at like /mnt/home, mv everything, then remount it to....oh ok then sure, you can just mkdir it
[19:35] <maco> shavinder: make sure you set the right owner on the directories
[19:35] <jrwcox> studentz: can't find drivers
[19:35] <Pirate_Hunter> maco: no not confused it is just that I forgot I can play music through it :p weird I know
[19:35] <joshritger> Slart: do you know if the first workspace is 0 or 1
[19:35] <shavinder> maco: if i move it using mv will the permissions remain intact?
[19:36] <jrwcox> studentz:there is no foomatic or ppd file
[19:36] <maco> Pirate_Hunter: no i got confused because you talked while i was answering shavinder so then i directed my answer for shavinder to you
[19:36] <Slart> joshritger: according to wmctrl I've only got one named "0"
[19:36] <maco> shavinder: think so, yeah
[19:36] <maco> shavinder: you can always check with ls -l. itd only be the top level directory that might change
[19:36] <studentz> give me another second
[19:36] <Pirate_Hunter> maco: ahhhh nvm still managed to kill two birds with one stone
[19:36] <joshritger> Slart: I figured it out, in compiz the count starts at 0, not 1, so I was trying to place the window on a workspace I didnt have when trying to place it on 2
[19:36] <trey2> theres 1528 people on here no one going anwser me
[19:37] <Slart> joshritger: ok.. the compiz config plugin "Place windows" worked for me.. I used the "Windows with fixed viewport" option
[19:37] <Slart> joshritger: ahh.. that would explain it
[19:37] <maco> trey2: try another kernel? file a bug?
[19:37] <Jordan_U_> !patience | trey2
[19:37] <maco> trey2: not much we can help with
[19:37] <trey2> how do i back thkernel
[19:38] <nascentmind> shavinder, maco , shouldn't he change his home dir in /etc/passwd?
[19:38] <trey2> the
[19:38] <joshritger> Slart: yeah, I was confused since like you said it kept coming up as one desktop with devilspie and through compiz it didn't come up as workspace 2 either
[19:38] <llutz> nascentmind: No
[19:38] <maco> nascentmind: no he's mounting the new partition at /home just like before
[19:38] <studentz> jrwcox what  kind of connector do you have usb ?  rj415? LPT?
[19:38] <brand0con> I'm simulating disk failure on a raid 1 hardware array and struggling to bring the system back up on a single disk (no worries, no important data).  boot stops while looking for /dev/mapper/lsi... which is obviously the mapped array.  how can this value be changed to point it to a different dev?
[19:38] <joshritger> Slart: I didn't know that compiz treated the workspaces different either
[19:38] <trey2> theres a bug all ready filed
[19:39] <shavinder> maco: would this be correct ? FIRST mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/home SECOND  sudo mv /home /mnt/home THIRDLY IN FSTAB  /dev/sda3 /home ext3 nodev,nosuid 02
[19:39] <Slart> trey2: noone likes interrogating people for information.. I know I hesitate when someone asks vague questions.. such as "my computer won't print" or "my cd doesn't work"..
[19:39] <trey2> for like 3 mounths now
[19:39] <nascentmind> maco, ah ok
[19:39] <llutz> shavinder: you don't want to mv /home, just the dirs below
[19:39] <jbear> 9.10 doesn't decrypt files.. anyone know anything about this
[19:39] <maco> shavinder: PERFECT
[19:40] <Jordan_U_> jbear: #ubuntu+1 for karmic
[19:40] <shavinder> maco: llutz says dont mv /home just the dirs. how do i do that?
[19:40] <maco> shavinder: mv /home/*
[19:40] <brand0con> I'm simulating disk failure on a server w raid 1 hardware array and struggling to bring the system back up on a single disk (no worries, no important data).  boot stops while looking for /dev/mapper/lsi... which is obviously the mapped array.  how can this value be changed to point it to a different dev?
[19:40] <trey2> i dont want to press and hold a botten every time i start my computer
[19:40] <shavinder> maco : okay thanks. i am obliged
[19:41] <Slart> joshritger: I hope they will someone merge the two concepts together at some time in the future.. there are other issues as well.. you can't name desktops in compiz for example.. but you can in the regular desktop
[19:41] <maco> trey2: file a bug. did this just start happening with -14 or did it happen before? put the answer to that question in the bug
[19:41] <joshritger> Slart: thanks for the help
[19:41] <trey2> with 13
[19:41] <Slart> joshritger: you're welcome
[19:42] <hacker_shelb> ciao
[19:42] <Slart> !who | trey2
[19:42] <JAMD456> How do you install xfce onto a standard Ubuntu instalation?
[19:42] <trey2> !tab
[19:42] <trey2> whats that
[19:43] <geekbuntu> ubottu: good question....
[19:43] <llutz> JAMD456: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[19:43] <maco> JAMD456: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[19:43] <JAMD456> thank you
[19:43] <trey2> i got to go
[19:44] <geekbuntu> the damn bot is smarter than half my coworkers
[19:44] <docmax__> why should i use wine?
[19:45] <geekbuntu> o,O
[19:45] <Slart> docmax__: to run some windows software on your linux box
[19:45] <jrwcox> studentz:usb
[19:46] <allel_azer> ubuntu fr
[19:46] <allel_azer> aide
[19:46] <allel_azer> svp
[19:46] <Slart> docmax__: especially if you want a clean conscience and don't have windows license
[19:46] <Slart> !fr
[19:47] <D3RGPS31> how do i upgrade from an iso :D
[19:47] <syk> lol
[19:47] <syk> oops
[19:47] <jrwcox> this is the error i'm getting with code: $ dpkg  -i  --force-all  mfc240clpr-1.0.1-1.i386.deb
[19:47] <jrwcox> dpkg: operation requires read/write access to dpkg status area
[19:47] <ceafu> not many mac minis in here.
[19:48] <Slart> D3RGPS31: not really sure how this works these days.. but on earlier versions of ubuntu you could just insert the cd and you'd get a popup asking if you wanted to use it to update from
[19:48] <llutz> jrwcox: use "sudo dpkg ...:"
[19:48] <Slart> jrwcox: put a sudo in front of that
[19:49] <crohakon> so, what does sudo stand for?
[19:49] <surfzoid> Horrible !! http://surfzoid.free.fr/Elumeilleure-mail2008.pps
[19:49] <jrwcox> cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[19:49] <jrwcox> Errors were encountered while processing:
[19:49] <jrwcox>  mfc240clpr-1.0.1-1.i386.deb
[19:49] <ectropy> I had an unclean shutdown and am now getting "error: invalid environment block" on bootup, _before_ I can "e" into grub. I'm currently booted into my liveusb and I need help mounting my HD so I can edit /etc/default/grub. ...then I need help running update-grub. apparently I have to chroot
[19:50] <D3RGPS31> Slart: thank you; i remember using an alternative installation cd to do this once :D
[19:50] <perlsyntax> Does ubuntu 9.10 have perl 5.10.1?
[19:50] <Slart> D3RGPS31: you're welcome.. I think both the alternate and the desktop cd's did this..
[19:50] <Slart> !info perl | perlsyntax
[19:50] <addisonj> are there any apt-get wrappers that do segmented downloading?
[19:50] <docmax__> perlsyntax, i dont know
[19:51] <daevski> In fstab I have sda1 and sda3-5, but not sda2. Any thoughts?
[19:51] <perlsyntax> ihope it does have a update for that.
[19:51] <genii> daevski: Might be swap partition
[19:51] <pronoy> perlsyntax i think you should ask that in #ubuntu+1
[19:51] <Slart> daevski: things are mounted automatically even if they aren't mentioned in the fstab..
[19:52] <llutz> daevski: "sudo fdisk -l" tells you what it is (if there is one)
[19:52] <Slart> daevski: well.. not all partitions.. only the ones where it's sensible to mount it.. swap is one of those that aren't sensible to mount
[19:52] <daevski> llutz: fdisk -l shows me like 3 partitions of like 7 that I have across drives... I'm not sure why :-\
[19:53] <vishal> dskjr : only by IP
[19:53] <vishal> dskjr : only by IP
[19:53] <daevski> genii, slart: this is helpful, thanks. I thought maybe that's what it was.
[19:53] <t_> Another copy of BitPim is using the same data dir:
[19:53] <t_> /home/t/.bitpim-files.  How do i terminate this, end/stop/kill/force quit wont work
[19:54] <rphillips> where should I look for documentation on how grub gets setup in Ubuntu 9.10? I need to change the devies to /dev/mdX devices for a raid setup
[19:54] <Slart> rphillips: #ubuntu+1 for karmic help
[19:54] <rphillips> thanks
[19:54] <t_> anyone
[19:55] <KittyKis> gaah, really annoying problem going on here with xchat cutting off some text. help? (screenshot: http://bit.ly/18E8CB )
[19:56] <guntbert> KittyKis: there is #xchat too...
[19:56] <KittyKis> oh, right
[19:56] <BlouBlou> t_: what's that?
[19:56] <Slart> KittyKis: hmm.. it's the same if you change the font?
[19:56] <t_> i cant kill force quit or end an application
[19:56] <KittyKis> Slart: yeah, it's the same over quite a few fonts, only one that doesn't do it that i've tried is tengwar telcontar
[19:56] <t_> and it isn't allowing me to reopen the application
[19:57] <BlouBlou> t_: type this in console: killall PROGRAMM
[19:57] <Scunizi> KittyKis: it might just be the theme you're using.
[19:57] <BlouBlou> where programm is for example pidgin, or irssi
[19:57] <t_> do i type the program name
[19:57] <BlouBlou> yes
[19:57] <t_> or just program
[19:57] <t_> oh ok
[19:57] <Slart> KittyKis: hmm.. I would check if the theme might be messing things up.. it might be a bug in xchat too
[19:57] <BlouBlou> t_: use top for see process
[19:58] <studentz> jrwcox  terminal type "sudo aa-complain cupsd"
[19:58] <BlouBlou> t_: in terminal use "top", then when you saw process kill it with "killall programm"
[19:58] <Scunizi> KittyKis: is it xchat or xchat-gnome?
[19:58] <studentz> jrwcox next terminal sudo mkdir /usr/share/cups/model
[19:58] <studentz> jrwcox next reinstall the driver
[19:59] <BlouBlou> t_: does it works?
[19:59] <t_> bl, i dont see a pid for bitpim
[19:59] <dskjr> ok vishal
[19:59] <Scunizi> t_: use TAB to auto complete nicks
[19:59] <dskjr> sorry, was working on something
[20:00] <Scunizi> KittyKis: ??.. you there?
[20:00] <t_> ya, i cant see its pid
[20:00] <kandinski> how do I reset the password of the gnome keychain?
[20:01] <BlouBlou> t_: System > administration > System monitor (my ubuntu is in spanish, maybe it's different), then go to process, and kill programm
[20:01] <KittyKis> yeah, sorry about that
[20:01] <thune3> Many release candidates were released as final without changes. Is this expected with 9.10?
[20:01] <Scunizi> KittyKis: did you install xchat or xchat-gnome?
[20:01] <t_> I did this and it says the program is "zombie" status
[20:01] <t_> and it wont kill it
[20:01] <BlouBlou> t_: and please, use "BlouBlou:" when you speak to me, becasue it's difficult to see you with 1xxx people :)
[20:01] <maco> thune3: thatd be the point of a RC, yeah...
[20:01] <maco> thune3: unless someone finds a release critical bug in the next 6 days
[20:02] <cedric__> >join #bioinfobdx
[20:02] <Slart> t_: not a lot you can do about zombies except perhaps kill the parent or reboot.. they shouldn't really be a problem on the other side
[20:02] <Scunizi> t_: BlouBlou use TAB for auto complete of nicks...
[20:02] <thune3> marco: so only showstoppers get fixed now
[20:02] <BlouBlou> Scunizi: I always use it
[20:02] <maco> thune3: yep. thats what release candidate means
[20:02] <t_> ok thanks guys
[20:02] <ex0duz> after a reboot ubuntu boots up to where the login screen is and then it's a corrupted pattern all over the screen and the system becomes unresponsive
[20:02] <ex0duz> any ideas?
[20:02] <Scunizi> BlouBlou: I can tell.. just reitterating for t_ since I mentioned it to him already to no effect
[20:03] <BlouBlou> Scunizi: ah okay :)
[20:03] <KittyKis> Scunizi: xchat
[20:03] <Scunizi> ex0duz: can you CTRL+ALT+F2 and get to a tty?
[20:03] <MoTec> Mmm.. IRSSI :)
[20:04] <Scunizi> KittyKis: k.. if you still have problems.. look at using irssi and/or irssi w/ screen..
[20:04] <KittyKis> all right
[20:04] <MoTec> irssi w/screen is awesome
[20:04] <Scunizi> ooohh.. yeaaa
[20:04] <KittyKis> i've been meaning to switch to irssi for a while, just kinda been putting it off
[20:05] <Scunizi> KittyKis: no reason to.. you can have both installed.. irssi just "works" well.. a little different but you get use to it
[20:05] <KittyKis> yeah
[20:05] <thune3> maco: is there anywhere to see queued showstoppers for 9.10rc?
[20:05] <KittyKis> i used it on windows a loooong time ago
[20:05] <MoTec> i stay logged on to irc and can disconnect the session.. pick it back up at work, or in my iphone even, hehe.
[20:05] <Slart> !bug
[20:05] <Scunizi> KittyKis: irssi? ..
[20:05] <KittyKis> yeah
[20:06] <maco> bugs mile-stoned to Karmic that are critical importance
[20:06] <maco> bah
[20:06] <crohakon> How do I do the neat 3d cube thing with the desktop?
[20:06] <maco> thune3:  other than the insidde of the release manager's brain? you can look on launchpad for bugs mile-stoned to Karmic that are critical importance
[20:06] <Slart> !ccsm | crohakon
[20:06] <daevski> I need fdisk help: I just went in terminal: fdisk /dev/sda1 -- then I used 'd' for parts(1-4) which doesn't makes sense to me, cause it's one partition, not a while disk. I used 'p' to check it, and then 'w' to write it. It said after reboot it would be done. I rebooted and my partition is still mounted in fstab and all files are there, but fdisk now says 'unable to open /dev/sda1'
[20:07] <Slart> crohakon: you need 4 desktops horizontally and the cube switcher activated
[20:07] <straterra> M4K4V3l1: No need to insult Slackware people for refusing to help you compile something on Ubuntu.
[20:07] <J_P> hi all
[20:07] <Scunizi> KittyKis: nice.. didn't know they had one for windows.. I'll check it out.
[20:07] <MoTec> daevski: use fdisk /dev/sda
[20:08] <daevski> motec: okay thanks.
[20:08] <daevski> motec: unable to open /dev/sda
[20:08] <J_P> anyone has sucess with a USB to video composite, via v4l, the lsusb show this: "Bus 001 Device 006: ID 05e1:0408 Syntek Semiconductor Co., Ltd"
[20:09] <daevski> motec: sda1 is my old windows install. I want the HD space for other stuff :-\
[20:10] <ShackJack> Flash plugin question. The Adobe Flash performance is pretty poor (playing flash games, etc... on Facebook). Does anyone know if either of the open-source offerings have better performace (like, a *lot* better), or does Flash 10.1 have hope of better performance (what with being optimized for mobile platforms, etc...)
[20:10] <MoTec> daevski: you use fdisk on a disk, not a partition.
[20:10] <MoTec> not sure what you managed to do, honestly..
[20:11] <t_> I set my phone in "file transfer mode" but I still cant find my memory card
[20:11] <t_> shouldnt it be under media?
[20:11] <daevski> motec: Well I've made a mistake then. fdisk won't open sda.
[20:11] <BlouBlou> t_: via bluetooth or usb?
[20:11] <t_> bloublou usb
[20:11] <btthalion> ShackJack: I think the biggest thing that affects flash perf right now is video drivers. I hear the newest intel drivers in Karmic result in watchable full screen flash videos... But, AFAIK, from a compatibility standpoint and a performance standpoint, official flash 10 is the best you'll get...
[20:11] <Scunizi> daevski: are you trying to wipe sda?
[20:12] <daevski> Scunizi: no just sda1. it's my own windwos partition that I now need for other things
[20:12] <daevski> Scunizi: sda is currently holding ubuntu and some audio for me. It's in 3 partitions I believe, one is old windows install.
[20:12] <ShackJack> btthalion: O.K. There's this one FB game, Cafe World, and it pegs the processor of a few year old PENTIUM M 740... and chugs quite a bit.. Hopefully 10.1 will improve things...
[20:13] <Scunizi> daevski: have you tried gparted? after install it comes up as Partition Manager in System>Admin.. that will format sda1 for you after unmounting it.
[20:13] <thune3> maco: thx
[20:13] <Whitor> How can I search a volume for a file containing characters "foo" ? Case insensitive ?
[20:13] <daevski> Scunizi: Thats the info I needed. Thank you :)
[20:13] <Scunizi> daevski: :) glad to help
[20:13] <Slart> Whitor: grep -r -i foo *  might work
[20:14] <Whitor> ls -r | grep ... ?
[20:14] <Slart> Whitor: be prepared to wait a while unless it's a very small volume
[20:14] <Gaming4JC> Hey all, I'm thinking of upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10 (when it comes out in 6days). Is there any way that I can upgrade from CD/DVD? Since I do not have access to highspeed internet... ? :)
[20:14] <Slart> Whitor: that would just search the filenames
[20:14] <Whitor> yeah ... looking for a file...
[20:14] <Scunizi> Gaming4JC: you use to be able to do that from the alternate install cd.. not sure about the live cd.
[20:14] <Whitor> I meant filename, sorry
[20:14] <Slart> Whitor: if that's what you want I would recommend "find" instead
[20:14] <Jordan_U_> !upgrade | Gaming4JC
[20:15] <J_P> anyone?
[20:15] <Slart> Whitor: something like find /media/sda2/ -iname 'foo'
[20:15] <t_> how do i send a file in ubuntu to my phone via bluetooth
[20:15] <Scunizi> Whitor: you might also "sudo updatedb" then "locate <file>
[20:15] <Whitor> will find work on a newly attached volume ? or does it need to be cataloged first ?
[20:15] <maco> Whitor: itll work
[20:15] <t_> nevermind
[20:15] <Scunizi> t_: do you know the mount point for the phone?
[20:15] <Slart> Whitor: find doesn't use an index.. it searches the whole thing every time
[20:15] <Whitor> thanks all
[20:15] <Gaming4JC> Scunizi, Jordan_U_: Thanks, reading now... I hope they provide an alternate install disk still. :P
[20:15] <maco> Whitor: find doesnt use a db. slocate, mlocate, locate, etc do
[20:15] <Scunizi> Gaming4JC: sure
[20:15] <Whitor> There should be a find built into nautilus ... imo
[20:16] <Scunizi> Whitor: there is..
[20:16] <t_> scunizi, I was able to push the file by right clicking the file
[20:16] <Whitor> oh
[20:16] <maco> Whitor: there's a file search program called tracker
[20:16] <Whitor> well look at that ! nice
[20:16] <Scunizi> Whitor: go to "Places"> search for files..
[20:17] <root> hey peeps
[20:17] <root> what it is?
[20:17] <Scunizi> t_: that's a nautilus function.. if it's not there now you might be able to install it.. search synaptic for nautilus and you might see nautilus-sendto as an install option
[20:17] <Whitor> then it is what
[20:17] <maco> Guest95917: not a social channel. if you want to chat, #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:17] <Guest95917> sorry guys...
[20:17] <Guest95917> my bad...
[20:18] <crohakon> its only social after mid-night when everyone has had there share of rum.
[20:18] <ck773> arrr
[20:18] <Scunizi> beer, scotch, vodka
[20:18] <crohakon> mead
[20:18] <crohakon> hard cider
[20:18] <Gaming4JC> Ok I read it over, it seems that I will be needing that alternate installation CD. Do you know if and where I might find that come the launch date for 9.10? :)
[20:19] <Scunizi> Gaming4JC: ubuntu.com
[20:19] <Gaming4JC> Scunizi: That's the LiveCD on their site, unless I'm not looking hard enough. lol
[20:20]  * Gaming4JC is browsing ubuntu.com...
[20:20] <trism> Gaming4JC: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate
[20:20] <arand> Gaming4JC: alternate is already available for the RC, will be in the smae location come karmic http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[20:20] <shane2peru> Where can I buy a mini laptop with Ubuntu already installed?
[20:20] <arand> s/smae/same/
[20:20] <ph_softnet> hi all
[20:20] <Gaming4JC> trism, arand: Thanks! :D
[20:20] <ph_softnet> Im a cvs newbie, and got three questions concerning cvs modules
[20:21] <ph_softnet> 1) how do i delete a module from the cvs repository?
[20:21] <PreZ> Maybe a little off-topic, but is there any way to 'refresh' a laptop battery?  One of my laptop batteries can now only hold 66% of the original amount of charge it could hold, dramatically reducing the time I can spend off-power.
[20:22] <Flannel> PreZ: Not really
[20:23] <shane2peru> Does anyone know where to buy computers that already have linux - preferably Ubuntu pre-installed??
[20:23] <Scunizi> PreZ: if it's nickel-metal-hydride drain it then charge .. repeat for several cycles.. lythium for get about it.
[20:23] <Gaming4JC> Ok, I'm nearly set for the transition to 9.10. But one last question... is there any way I can download the entire repository without having to manually download packages from packages.ubuntu.com? I really need the basics like gstreamer, my graphics card driver, etc. and it takes around 4hrs on my dial-up line. :(
[20:23] <Gaming4JC> I figure I can go to a highspeed place or pay some one to make a repo disk. :P
[20:23] <Scunizi> !aptoncd | Gaming4JC
[20:23] <silverglade00> shane2peru: dell mini 10
[20:23] <ckw> Can I just whine for a second here? Are there any plans to have an updater that doesn't require constant monitoring?
[20:23] <PreZ> Hrm, I think it's a Lithium Hydroxide, but I need to check, I know my (much older) laptop uses a NiMH
[20:23] <ckw> I understand you need to ask which config version I want
[20:23] <shane2peru> silverglade00: directly from dell?
[20:24] <Scunizi> PreZ: if it's lithium.. buy a new one..
[20:24] <Flannel> ckw: What part of your updater requires monitoring?
[20:24] <ckw> but couldn't that be done quickly, allowing the rest of hte update to happen while I'm eating lunch, etc
[20:24] <Jordan_U_> Gaming4JC: The Ubuntu DVD contains all of main and restricted
[20:24] <ckw> Flannel, Such as constantly asking if I want my version or hte package version of apache config
[20:24] <silverglade00> shane2peru: http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
[20:25] <ckw> It pops up a window and pauses the update until I answer
[20:25] <Flannel> ckw: Ah, that.  That is the very end of the updating, everything's already downloaded at that point, so it should be quick.
[20:25] <Gaming4JC> Sunizi: That'll work, assuming I use Ubuntu to get the files. But most libraries use Windows XP still, leaving me unable to download them from there. Jordan_U_: Ok, I'll be keeping my eye out for the DVD. :)
[20:25] <ckw> Everything has been downloaded
[20:25] <ckw> this is during install
[20:25] <ckw> I had a few dialogs that happened pretty soon in the install phase
[20:25] <shane2peru> silverglade00: got it!  Thanks!
[20:25] <PreZ> Scunizi, well, luckily when I bought the laptop, I got 2 battery packs (mainly for long plane trips when one would not last the whole trip) ... recently I've not had to go on any long trips, so the second battery is still at 90% of original charge ;P
[20:25] <ckw> if I had gone for a few hours to find them, I would still have a bunch of packages left
[20:25] <ckw> and more dialogs
[20:26] <ckw> If there were some sort of preproccessing where all those dialogs were asked before the rest of the packages are installed
[20:26] <ckw> I could then leave the system alone while it updates and not have to break up as much of my normal life
[20:27] <Gaming4JC> Can anyone suggest to Canonical that they should have a bunch of Repository disks for sale? I'm sure people like myself would love getting the whole repo for offline use and be willing to pay the $$. xP
[20:28] <steve2> hey guys got a prob
[20:28] <Jordan_U_> Gaming4JC: You can do it yourself at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[20:29] <nerdy_kid> i have a program that keep notifiying me of stuff i dont care about, how can i shut it up?
[20:29] <steve2> I am trying to burn an imige to disk with brasaro disk burner and every time i end up getting an error I know these files are ok is there another burning program I can use with Ubuntu 9.04
[20:29] <PreZ> damn, the battery is a Li-ion :(
[20:29] <Scunizi> k3b
[20:29] <Gaming4JC> Jordan_U_: hmm.. yah That'll work.  :)
[20:29] <Scunizi> steve2: k3b
[20:30] <steve2> I can get it through the terminal
[20:30] <ckw> Flannel, I know it's a small thing and this probably isn't the place
[20:30] <Jordan_U_> Gaming4JC: zyxware.com used to sell repo CD/DVDs also
[20:30] <Scunizi> steve2: sudo apt-get install k3b
[20:30] <ckw> but where would I go to suggest such a thing?
[20:30] <steve2> awsome thanks ill try it
[20:30] <ckw> (having all dialogs at the beginning of the upgrade process)
[20:30] <Flannel> ckw: File a bug at launchpad
[20:31] <mayki> would that be considered a bug?
[20:31] <Flannel> ckw: It won't be able to do them at the beginning, it would have to be at the end.
[20:31] <nerdy_kid> i have a program that keep notifiying me of stuff i dont care about, how can i shut it up?
[20:31] <Flannel> mayki: It could be, or a wishlist, either way launchpad would be appropriate
[20:31] <ckw> Why not at the beginning?
[20:32] <xago> People, I have evolution installed on my system, but when I try to open an attached file, I received following message "Could not open the link. No application is registered as handling file" Some may tell what's wrong?
[20:32] <mayki> ah
[20:32] <ckw> if the package installers were split up into sections that may need human interaction and non human interaction
[20:32] <Flannel> ckw: Because at the beginning of the upgrade it has no idea what files will be updated/which files you've modified (to ask you which to keep)
[20:32] <ckw> Yes
[20:33] <Gaming4JC> Jordan_U_: Sounds interesting on that store... Also would you know if the DVD of Ubuntu would allow me to upgrade my existing installation, or will I have to get the alternate install for that?
[20:33] <ckw> What I am saying is if the package installers would be split up into two sections, one that checked for files that may need human interaction, the other that used the precious data to actually install
[20:33] <Gaming4JC> Jordan_U_: Just so I know if I have to go download both, or just one big one. lol :)
[20:33] <ckw> Then the data collections part could be run before the package is actually installed
[20:34] <Jordan_U_> Gaming4JC: The DVD will allow you to upgrade
[20:34] <ckw> Flannel, it wouldn't even be too hard to make backward compatible
[20:34] <Gaming4JC> Jordan_U_: Amazing, thanks for the help! I'll be sure to get the DVD when it comes out in 6 days. :D
[20:34] <ckw> To break existing packages
[20:34] <Blehk> Is there any suggestions on what to use for live hd-repartitioning? (I can't have these comps go down) Would that leave out gparted? Or can I resize on the fly?
[20:35] <Flannel> ckw: File a bug, you don't need to convince me.
[20:35] <Scunizi> Blehk: if you had LVM installed then yes.. otherwise I'm not aware of anything but gparted
[20:35] <daevski> Anyone using vsftpd here? -- I had it installed and working previously, but decided to start from scratch (reinstall) and now /etc/init.d/vsftpd doesn't respond, but the file does exist in that location. I'm not really sure what to do about this :-?
[20:35] <Blehk> Scunizi: it's all ext3, but can gparted do it on the fly?
[20:36] <genii> I don't think any live-repartitioning/resizing software could safely exist
[20:36] <Scunizi> Blehk: not without unmounting the drive.. LVM works with ext3 but has to be installed at the time of the partition/drive creation
[20:36] <Scunizi> I think
[20:36] <mayki> i have a question, why is it that when firefox doesn't close completely, i can't open a new one? i get the message "Firefox is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Firefox process, or restart your system." but if i have a firefox window open, i can open as many other windows as i want? do they all run on the same process?
[20:37] <PreZ> mayki, yah, they do
[20:37] <Scunizi> mayki: something got stuck.. add system monitor to one of your bars and use that to kill ff
[20:37] <mayki> ok
[20:37] <mayki> i just killall
[20:38] <PreZ> mayki, sudo killall init should deal with it ;P
[20:38] <mayki> is there a way to downgrade a package through terminal?
[20:38] <mayki> thanks PreZ
[20:38] <daevski> Anyone using vsftpd here? -- I had it installed and working previously, but decided to start from scratch (reinstall) and now /etc/init.d/vsftpd doesn't respond, but the file does exist in that location. I'm not really sure what to do about this :-?
[20:39] <grawity> daevski: What if you run vsftpd directly? It may show some error messages.
[20:40] <daevski> grawity: (yes), normally it would list the commands, but now it doesn't respond to anything.
[20:40] <babak> hi
[20:40] <babak> my ctrl+alt key don't work how can solve this problem?
[20:40] <grawity> daevski: I meant /usr/bin/vsftpd
[20:40] <daevski> grawity: maybe, one sec.
[20:43] <Cpt_Zyph> hay guys does ubuntu run on older pre intel based macbook's ?
[20:43] <daevski> grawity: hmm good advice... it seems as though it can't load the SSL certificate which it should create itself on install. -- Thanks for the tip.
[20:44] <babak> my ctrl+alt key don't work how can solve this problem?
[20:44] <Cpt_Zyph> also i am more experianced ( as far as a learner goes ) with fedora, what are teh key defferances between these 2 distos and
[20:44] <Scunizi> Cpt_Zyph: that would be the ppc version.. there is a channel for that #ubuntu-ppc
[20:44] <babak> ctrl+alt+backspace not work why?
[20:44] <grawity> daevski: It's _you_ who should create a SSL cert for your server.
[20:44] <grawity> !dontzap | babak
[20:44] <trism> mayki: might check out man 5 apt_preferences
[20:44] <Scunizi> babak: try ctrl+alt+SysRq+k
[20:45] <mayki> i'll do that
[20:45] <grawity> Scunizi: Ctrl is not needed.
[20:45] <Scunizi> grawity: just alt+sysRq+k ??
[20:45] <mayki> ah, thanks trism
[20:45] <grawity> Scunizi: It has always been Alt+SysRq+K.
[20:45] <daevski> grawity: oh, [slaps forhead] right...lol -- okay all is well again... I think.
[20:45] <Scunizi> grawity: ok.. never used it.. still running hardy
[20:45] <sdwrage> What is the command to find where a program resides?
[20:45] <Cpt_Zyph> Scunizi wonderful thanks.. i guess my last Q is . for multi media stuff and fedora i have such a hard time getting things working, so i thought of trying ubuntu.. other then RH vs Debian what are the differances between the 2 servers / desktops.. and why should someone consider ubuntu over fedora for i.e.?
[20:46] <sdwrage> like if I wanted to see where guake is installed...
[20:46] <grawity> daevski: Well yeah, Debian and Ubuntu do create one for you, but it's really better to do it yourself - no matter if it's an issued one or self-signed.
[20:46] <mikeru> hey, I have a Philips MCM590 micro system that has USB audio support
[20:46] <mikeru> however
[20:46] <grawity> sdwrage: 'which guake'
[20:46] <natschil_> !space |mikeru
[20:46] <Scunizi> Cpt_Zyph: fedora can be even more cutting edge.. & harder..
[20:46] <natschil_> !spacing
[20:46] <natschil_> !line
[20:46] <daevski> grawity: true. thanks. later.
[20:47] <natschil_> !enter | mikeru
[20:47] <babak> i want use ctrl+alt+f1 but my ctrl+alt key not work what do i have to do?
[20:47] <sdwrage> grawity, thx!
[20:47] <flower> how do I prevent a package from being installed using /etc/apt/preferences? I read something about p < 0
[20:47] <edulacomadreja> hi! where should i find the cover (artwork) for every Ubuntu release?
[20:47] <Cpt_Zyph> Scunizi how about ubuntu and the world of multi media it seems every .. well main stream style media app i try to get is already built for ubuntu but i have to tweek at it for weeks to get it working on my fedora server.. is this just me or is that the trend for the 2 destro's .. and thanks btw for your help
[20:47] <Scunizi> babak: try it with f2 twice in a row.. you'll get to a tty
[20:48] <Cpt_Zyph> Scunizi for i.e. "Simplify Media" is my recent challange
[20:48] <mikeru> when I connect it to my computer (with ubuntu9.10), it appears in the sound preferences and when I select it, it just doesn't work. the usb connect thing stops blinking and stays off, even though it's detected in sound preferences
[20:48] <babak> Scunizi: my ctrl+alt not work
[20:48] <edulacomadreja> hi! where should i find the cover (artwork) for every Ubuntu release?
[20:48] <genii> natschil_: Ironically you used up 6 lines with invalid factoid requests to finally hit on the 7th and 8th line to make a remark about someone who used a not overly excessive two lines
[20:48] <Scunizi> Cpt_Zyph: fedora can be finiky .. you really need to know the system and cli for some things.. Ubuntu is also very popular with a huge amount of support
[20:49] <Scunizi> babak: bad keyboard.. wrong keyboard setup ?? I don't have the answer
[20:49] <edulacomadreja> where should i find the cover (artwork) for every Ubuntu release?
[20:49] <mayki> anyone here good with joypads?
[20:49] <docmax__> i need a networkmonitoring tool which displays networktraffik-rate and shows me the process causing it
[20:49] <Scunizi> edulacomadreja: google?
[20:49] <docmax__> iftop and netstat dont do this
[20:49] <Scunizi> docmax__: wireshark
[20:49] <Cpt_Zyph> Scunizi thank you sir for your input.. i know this convo while opinionated can go on for ever.. i just wonder if someone like my self wants to realyl get into server linux projects etc.. which release would be a more long term learning project.. RH based or Debian based.. and again thanks for your input
[20:50] <natschil_> genii: yes, that's ironic sorry :) I used another 2 in a pm with ubottu though to find the right one...though I'm not asking a question, so no-on needs to see everything in one place after all...
[20:50] <edulacomadreja> Scunizi: yes, but there is no official site or something?
[20:50] <mayki> i have 2 and both worked perfectly (just plug and play) with feisty, hardy and the latest long term release
[20:50] <qdii> hello. is there a way to list all symbolic links pointing toward a certain file ?
[20:50] <Scunizi> Cpt_Zyph: your choice..
[20:50] <docmax__> Scunizi, thanks i will check it
[20:50] <Scunizi> Cpt_Zyph: different animals
[20:50] <zaoul1> xorg.conf is empty how the hell does xorg work?
[20:50] <Cpt_Zyph> thanks again fro your time guys and to the guy with a keyboard issue.. if possable try a different keyboard .. chances are the problem is related to teh device.. but i'm new in this comunity so.. GL
[20:50] <Cpt_Zyph> scunizi rgr that..
[20:51] <Scunizi> zaoul1: xrandr.. randr are what controls now
[20:51] <zaoul1> Scunizi: where would I put NvAGP "1" ... It seems I need it for ACPI suspend to ram
[20:52] <edulacomadreja> Scunizi: I found lots of covers, very nice all of them but I want the artwork that is finally used on the oficial release
[20:52] <shawn_> How can I view what users are registered from the command line? (Ubuntu server edition)?
[20:52] <Scunizi> edulacomadreja: maybe on launchpad, ubuntuforums.org .. I'm not sure.
[20:52] <shawn_> Registered on my computer that is
[20:52] <iceroot> shawn_: registered? you mean logged in?
[20:52] <shawn_> iceroot Just any registered users on my computer
[20:52] <iceroot> shawn_: cat /etc/passwd
[20:53] <grawity> shawn_: 'getent passwd' will print the user accounts.
[20:53] <edulacomadreja> oh well...
[20:53] <grawity> shawn_: Most of the time, 'cat /etc/passwd' does the same.
[20:53] <Scunizi> zaoul1: not sure.. I've never delt with that..
[20:53] <iceroot> grawity: if you only have local users, yes
[20:53] <zaoul1> Scunizi: is there any config for randr?
[20:53] <shawn_> grawity, Theres no way to view a more basic list? Thats kinda annoying to read through
[20:53] <grawity> iceroot: That's why I said "Most of the time". (I used to administer a couple of servers with LDAP.)
[20:54] <Scunizi> zaoul1: yes.. bunches.. man randr .. also google has a wealth of info on it.
[20:54] <grawity> shawn_: Pipe it to | cut -d: -f1
[20:54] <zaoul1> im sure it does :-/
[20:54] <babak> i want swich to text mode what do i have to do?
[20:54] <alazyworkaholic> How can I have my computers use a static ip when they turn on & connect to the router?
[20:55] <Scunizi> zaoul1: I use nvidia's propriatary driver.. it may automatically set it up but I'm not sure.
[20:55] <shawn_> grawity Why are things like hplip and daemen users on my computer?
[20:55] <BrixSat> Hello
[20:55] <grawity> shawn_: 'daemon', 'irc',
[20:55] <grawity> shawn_: errrrr
[20:55] <mayki> oh snap, i need help
[20:55] <grawity> shawn_: 'daemon', 'irc', 'mail' and such users are (or usually, used to be) used by various daemon programs.
[20:55] <babak> i want swich to text mode what do i have to do?
[20:55] <BrixSat> My ubuntu wont start so many error's, i went to a live cd and i cant copy some files because they are under root! How can i copy root files?
[20:56] <trism> babak: just for now or permanently? ctrl+alt+f1-7 to switch back and forth, otherwise disable gdm to do it permanently
[20:56] <iceroot> shawn_: maybe you are searching for users with /bin/bash instead of /bin/false  the rest are not the users you expect
[20:56] <grawity> shawn_: For example, if the system had a mail daemon (server) running, it would be running with the privileges of user 'mail' for security.
[20:56] <mayki> i was using the terminal, and the mouse went outside of it, giving the window i had in back focus, i typed "exit [enter]" and now everything is gone :O!
[20:56] <shawn_> grawity I have like like 30 things that arent people they are just applications showing up in that users thing X_X
[20:56] <grawity> shawn_: I think Ubuntu has a graphical user manager somewhere...
[20:56] <Jape> when does ubuntu 9.10 come out?
[20:56] <shawn_> grawity Im using server edition on the one I need to check
[20:56] <iceroot> Jape: 29.10.2009
[20:56] <BrixSat> Jape www.ubuntu.com
[20:56] <grawity> shawn_: Well then, passwd is the only way.
[20:56] <babak> trism: ctrl+alt+f1 not work on my keyboard
[20:56] <rodneymillerpca_> Greetings all! I've updated to Ubuntu 9.10 and now receive this error in ant while compiling http://pastebin.com/d4e4cb116 anyone know how to set this correct?
[20:57] <Pici> rodneymillerpca_ : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[20:57] <eraldo> I have an Aiptek 8000U plugged in and it seems that the driver package "xserver-xorg-input-aiptek" is installed... I also did some restarts ...but somehow I can't get to have it actually working > when I move the pen there is no response whatsoever
[20:57] <Scunizi> shawn_: that's normal
[20:57] <Jape> thanks
[20:57] <Jape> cant wait
[20:57] <shawn_> Scunizi, Oh alright
[20:57] <mayki> shit, now even the files on my desktop are "an unknown type"
[20:57] <kim__> hi guys, has anyone installed the new update? how to get rid of that awn lookalike thing??
[20:57] <zaoul1> Scunizi: xorg.log shows the config is running through HAL
[20:57] <khaled_> my wireless speed is not stable at all. it keeps going up and down all the time, at the end i reach an average less than half my original speed!
[20:57] <iceroot> kim__: new update?
[20:57] <rodneymillerpca_> Pici Ok thank you
[20:57] <grawity> shawn_: Every process must run as some user. Historically, most of them have used 'daemon' (though others had more specific ones, as 'mail', 'uucp' and 'irc').
[20:57] <mayki> and i can't get to my desktop with nautilus :(
[20:57] <kim__> yeah, well the latest
[20:58] <naesojo> Hello everybody, has anyone here who wants to speak in Portuguese?
[20:58] <shawn_> grawity, Oh alrighty thanks :)
[20:58] <grawity> shawn_: Now, to increase security, many daemons have their _own_ accounts.
[20:58] <zero> ld.net
[20:58] <Pici> !pt | naesojo
[20:58] <iceroot> kim__: jaunty or karmic? if karmic goto #ubuntu+1
[20:58] <Scunizi> mayki: ctrl+alt+f2 .. log in ... then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[20:58] <kim__> karmic
[20:58] <grawity> shawn_: So if you have Postfix mail daemon installed, you'd have 'postfix' in users.
[20:58] <docmax__> Scunizi, i dont want to sniff packets
[20:58] <shawn_> grawity, Oh okay makes sense
[20:58] <kim__> cant right klick it
[20:58] <docmax__> just see the processes which do traffic
[20:58] <iceroot> kim__: as i said, goto #ubuntu+1
[20:59] <kim__> k
[20:59] <angelv> hi guys... some help with md, i have one raid but after reebooting need assemble manualy with mdadm --assemble --scan --config=/etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf and later mount mount /dev/md0 /home/raid5 i have some infirmation on http://www.pastebin.ca/1640628
[20:59] <grawity> shawn_: Things like 'irc', 'uucp' and 'news' are mostly for historical+compatibility reasons though. In any case, no one can login with them, so they're secure.
[20:59] <mikeru> so, does someone know about that?
[20:59] <Scunizi> docmax__: in cli.. top .. in gui .. add the system monitor to one of your bars
[21:00] <shawn_> grawity I dont think my server would have a lot of those anyways then since it only has certain server things running
[21:00] <naesojo> 	
[21:00] <naesojo> No personal problems, I also speak in other languages.
[21:00] <docmax__> Scunizi, where is the option in gui?
[21:01] <mayki> thanks Scunizi, it's fixed now,
[21:01] <Scunizi> docmax__: point at the top bar on the screen and right mouse click.. choose "add to panel" and look for system monitor
[21:01] <babak> ctrl+alt not work i want swich to text mode what do i have to do?
[21:01] <Scunizi> mayki: :)
[21:02] <Scunizi> babak: try another keyboard
[21:02] <iceroot> babak: ctrl+alt+f1
[21:02] <docmax__> top bar on the screen? the title?
[21:02] <awayguy> halo, well. i want to make a matrix in R. i have 3 rows with the same length (length=10). t,x,y. now i want that each of them is a colum in this in this 3X10 Matrix., how to do this?
[21:02] <flan_suse> I understand that Ubuntu uses HAL to mount and present hot-pluggable devices, such as USB drives. You can even right-click the drive icon and select "Unmount". However, how can this be done via a bash script? Unmount requires root privileges, it seems.
[21:02] <Scunizi> iceroot: he's been asking about that for a while.. his keys don't work
[21:02] <Xtreme_Great> ops: Thanks for unbanning me...
[21:03] <iceroot> Scunizi: i dont scroll the hole channel to see what someone has post too
[21:03] <Scunizi> docmax__: the bar that has "applications>Places etc".. just pick a blank area
[21:03] <guntbert> awayguy: not sure - I *think* you might want to ask in #openoffice.org
[21:03] <iceroot> awayguy: with what?
[21:03] <awayguy> R --> its the r-project
[21:03] <Scunizi> iceroot: just thought I'd let you know so you wouldn't waste a bunch of time
[21:03] <iceroot> Scunizi: ok :)
[21:03] <lolol> what does ^X mean in a terminal?
[21:03] <Scunizi> ctrl+x
[21:04] <iceroot> lolol: ctrl+x
[21:04] <lolol> or like ^O or whatever
[21:04] <akappa> lolol, control x
[21:04] <lolol> oh
[21:04] <akappa> ^ = control
[21:04] <lolol> so ^ means ctrl
[21:04] <lolol> i get it
[21:04] <docmax__> Scunizi, u mean the gnome panel???????????????????
[21:04] <lolol> thanks
[21:04] <Scunizi> or raised eyebrows
[21:04] <Scunizi> docmax__: ok..
[21:04] <eraldo> I have an Aiptek 8000U plugged in and it seems that the driver package "xserver-xorg-input-aiptek" is installed... I also did some restarts ...but somehow I can't get to have it actually working > when I move the pen there is no response whatsoever... any ideas?
[21:04] <docmax__> Scunizi, i'm in wireshark gui!
[21:05] <Scunizi> docmax__: you didn't mention that!  .. I did say top of the screen... not window .. but I know how that could be confusing.
[21:05] <docmax__> Scunizi, are we talking about wireshark or the gnome taskmanager?
[21:05] <awayguy> r-project.org <-- its a matrix based calculator, some of ppl which using ubuntu are using R to, so i thought i might as here
[21:05] <awayguy> *ask
[21:06] <Scunizi> docmax__: gnome task bar or panel.. the very top panel that is visible on the screen..
[21:06] <docmax__> Scunizi, you want me to add an applet?
[21:07] <Scunizi> docmax__: if you want to see processes and what's happening.. as an example try top in terminal .. same basic info
[21:08] <docmax__> Scunizi, i need information which process is doing how much NETWORK-traffic
[21:08] <docmax__> for ex. vlc 500 kb/s
[21:08] <[t0rc]> I have a folder of files I want to make into an ISO, how do I do that?
[21:08] <docmax__> smbd 700 kb/s etc.
[21:09] <oli_> WHATS UP NERD NIGGERZ HEIL HITLER HEIL HEIL HEIL UBUNTU FUCKING SUCKS LOL GET A LIFE HEIL HITLER
[21:09] <docmax__> oli LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
[21:09] <ZykoticK9> [t0rc], for command line look into the command mkisofs
[21:09] <[t0rc]> ZykoticK9, nice, thanks
[21:10] <Scunizi> docmax__: k.. I give up.. I don't know a tool for that specific task.. sorry for leading you in the wrong direction.. http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/top-linux-monitoring-tools.html  check that out
[21:10] <RhysTM> does anybody know of a downloadmanager compareable to IDM for linux with support for megaupload and a web interface?
[21:10] <awayguy> someone knows a channel for R-users?
[21:11] <angelv> please, any with experience with mdadm raid?
[21:11] <Flannel> awayguy: /join #R
[21:11] <awayguy> thy
[21:11] <awayguy> thx
[21:11] <eaxexee> Hi there, I have 3 monitors(15",19" and 19") set up in this order: 15", 19", 19", and I want ALL of them to be used at the same time. I have 2 nvidia cards installed to handle it but right now I can only use the two 19" and have the last one as a separate x screen, which is NOt what I want. How would I go about this? :)
[21:11] <zaoul1> angelv: yea whats up
[21:12] <Lenny1729> Hi there
[21:12] <angelv> hi zaoul1, i have this information http://www.pastebin.ca/1640628
[21:12] <docmax__> Scunizi, nice site, thanks
[21:12] <Sirisian|Work> what's the s stand for in: "srwxrwxrwx" for a permission. It shows up as purple.
[21:12] <zleap1> iirc sticky
[21:12] <zhando> Really bad bootup problems with nvidia card with new kernel works ok with jaunty kernel tips?
[21:12] <iceroot> Scunizi: 777
[21:12] <zaoul1> angelv: what is the problem?
[21:12] <grawity> Sirisian|Work: Probably 'socket'.
[21:12] <angelv> the raid work ok, but after reeboting need assambly manualy and mount
[21:12] <iceroot> Sirisian|Work: 777
[21:12] <Lenny1729> How can I install a proprietary w-lan driver from USB?
[21:12] <iceroot> Scunizi: sorry wrong nick
[21:13] <zaoul1> angelv: what does cat /proc/mdstat give you?
[21:13] <Scunizi> docmax__: looks like maybe nstat or iptraf would help you.. good luck
[21:13] <Sirisian|Work> grawity, that makes sense actually. the file is cups.sock :\
[21:13] <eaxexee> Lenny1729: is it a wireless broadband or regular wireless card?
[21:13] <Scunizi> iceroot: you trying to chown me? :)
[21:13] <iceroot> Sirisian|Work: ah sorry you asked for the s. s= symbolic link
[21:13] <Scunizi> chmod
[21:13] <iceroot> Scunizi: worked? :)
[21:13] <zleap1> set group id according to this http://www.unix.com/unix-advanced-expert-users/17577-unix-file-permissions.html
[21:13] <grawity> iceroot: Symlinks are 'l'
[21:13] <isabel575> i can't sudo aptitude remove xubuntu and kubuntu desktop help
[21:13] <spider> my compiz effects stopped working today, and im not sure why, what can i do to try and fix the problem?
[21:13] <grawity> Sirisian|Work: Often, Unix applications use "Unix domain sockets" for interprocess communications.
[21:13] <Lenny1729> eaxexee: regular w-lan card, in my case a broadcom card
[21:13] <RhysTM> does anybody know of a downloadmanager compareable to IDM for linux with support for megaupload and a web interface?
[21:13] <iceroot> grawity: oh, i am sorry
[21:14] <angelv> http://www.pastebin.ca/1640651
[21:14] <Scunizi> iceroot: my perissions don't allow me to be available to everyone.. my wife won't let me :)
[21:14] <grawity> zleap1: No, the setgid 's' would be in the 'group permisions' part.
[21:14] <Sirisian|Work> grawity, makes sense. How can I find out what's using that socket?
[21:14] <DSpair> Hello all...
[21:14] <grawity> zleap1: This 's' is in the 'file type' column.
[21:14] <grawity> Sirisian|Work: lsof
[21:14] <eaxexee> Lenny1729: and it's not supported? Have you tried going to System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers ?
[21:14] <grawity> Sirisian|Work: Or, guessing from the name, it was created by CUPS
[21:14] <zaoul1> angelv: hmm, looks fine, what it wont mount?
[21:15] <Lenny1729> eaxexee: Normally I would connect to ethernet and run the propriertary driver application to download it, than it works fine. But I no longer have ethernet connection, so the typical hen egg problem
[21:15] <DSpair> I'm hoping someone here is a Kernel virtual machine expert. I have configured USB pass-thru on a 4-port USB hub. The virtual machine is WinDoze, but it isn't getting the vendor/device ID from the pass-thru hub. Any suggestions?
[21:15] <angelv> http://pastebin.ca/1640657
[21:15] <angelv> my fstab
[21:15] <Sirisian|Work> grawity, yeah it's the web interface. I'm trying to see if they have the code in there for it someplace. I couldn't find out if there was source for it.
[21:15] <eaxexee> Lenny1729: Ohh snap! I know the feeling :/ Have you tried ndiswrapper?
[21:16] <isabel575> when i try to sudo aptitude remove xubuntu-desktop it only keeps back packages and then tells me no packages were removed, yet i know xfce is installed as i can see it as a login option am i mistyping the command?ç
[21:16] <Scunizi> DSpair: what's running the vm? virtualbox, vmware, xen?
[21:16] <Lenny1729> eaxexee: No not yet, how would it work?
[21:16] <JoeSomebody> hi, i have an extra system for testing, i have win 7 on it, will ubuntu work out for a dual booit with it?
[21:17] <Lenny1729> eaxexee: is there no way to download the right broadcom driver before my reinstallation and then install the driver from USB on my new Ubuntu 9.10 system?
[21:17] <JoeSomebody> should i wait for the new release ?
[21:17] <zaoul1> angelv: is there any more to dmesg?
[21:17] <Scunizi> JoeSomebody: sure
[21:17] <eitreach> GNOME will not start composited. What can I do to fix this?
[21:17] <zaoul1> angelv: the array is fine and does not need to be reuit
[21:17] <zaoul1> angelv: rebuilt
[21:17] <eaxexee> Lenny1729: Wait, you don't have internet in 9.10?
[21:17] <shawn_> JoeSomebody, An older release would be more stable than the one just coming out
[21:17] <Scunizi> JoeSomebody: or run ubutnu in a vm in win7 if your just testing
[21:17] <Sirisian|Work> grawity, "cupsd      8975     root    4u     unix 0xf09eba00           11978929 /var/run/cups/cups.sock" so that means cups is using it. hmm
[21:17] <zaoul1> angelv: mdstat says that UUUU .. meaning they are all 'up'
[21:17] <Harrison_Bergero> hello all.  I dont know what i just did so i dont know how to describe what happened.  All my windows in Ubuntu are different
[21:18] <prince_jammys> isabel575: xubuntu-desktop is a metapackage (a package with a list of dependencies, so that all the dependencies get installed). when you remove it, none of the other packages get removed.
[21:18] <grawity> Sirisian|Work: Actually, it means cups is listening on it (waiting for connections)
[21:18] <Harrison_Bergero> I cant close them or minimize
[21:18] <trism> isabel575: you could try sudo apt-get remote xubuntu-desktop then sudo apt-get autoremove, that should work
[21:18] <isabel575> prince_jammys, how do i get rid of xfce then?
[21:18] <Harrison_Bergero> the tops of the windows "disappeared"
[21:18] <zaoul1> Harrison_Bergero: you do not have any 'decorations' ?
[21:18] <grawity> Harrison_Bergero: The titlebars?
[21:18] <shawn_> Harrison_Bergero, I had to read that story for English.
[21:18] <flower> can you use APT::Default-release in /etc/apt/apt.conf on Ubuntu?
[21:18] <Harrison_Bergero> titlebars...yeah
[21:18] <bastidrazor> !puregnome | isabel575
[21:18] <Sirisian|Work> grawity, yeah that's what I meant. I wonder if cupsd is open source >_>
[21:18] <JoeSomebody> Scunizi will 9.04 be ok? will win7 see the ext3?
[21:18] <angelv> yes..  http://pastebin.ca/1640664
[21:18] <grawity> Sirisian|Work: It is.
[21:18] <zaoul1> Harrison_Bergero: run gnome-wm
[21:19] <zaoul1> Harrison_Bergero: you are using gnome right?
[21:19] <harisund> Ok guys, so I have installed Ubuntu through Wubi, and made some Gnome customizations, installed some applications etc .. Now I want to install Ubuntu on its dedicated partition on the machine. How do I recreate the same settings? Save the ~ folder? Make a list of dpkg -i?
[21:19] <prince_jammys> isabel575: you'd have to find and remove all the packages (or one that they all depend on) do you want a gnome-only system?
[21:19] <Harrison_Bergero> zaoul1...standard installation I assume so
[21:19] <grawity> Sirisian|Work: http://www.cups.org/
[21:19] <zaoul1> Harrison_Bergero: k... try to run gnome-wm from command line
[21:19] <JoeSomebody> shawn_ will 9.04 be ok? will win7 see the ext3?
[21:19] <grawity> harisund: Both.
[21:19] <shawn_> JoeSomebody, Win7 wont see it Grub will let you choose which to boot into
[21:20] <Scunizi> JoeSomebody: if you're dual booting there are drivers to make windows see ext3. I don't know if they currently work on win7... if you virtualize Ubuntu inside of windows you won't have any issues..
[21:20] <bastidrazor> !clone | harisund
[21:20] <isabel575> prince_jammys, yes gnome only
[21:20] <Harrison_Bergero> zaoul1...Thank you
[21:20] <awayguy> hmm, in my view oppenoffice has exactly the same power like msoffice. but there is just one deficit: the dictionary
[21:20] <Lenny1729> eaxexee: Yes, exactly, right now I'm running 9.04 with the right propiertary driver for my broadcom w-lan card installed via the "hardware-driver" tool. But in the place I moved to I no longer can connect to ethernet, so w-lan is the only option to connect to the internet, that's why I figured I gonna have a problem after I'll have installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my PC, because then I won't be able to run the "Hardware-driver" tool to download the right driv
[21:20] <Lenny1729> er -> hen-egg problem
[21:20] <zhando> upgrading a system with an nvidia card sucks - my other system with an older ati card went flawlessly!
[21:20] <mikeru> so, no USB sound support?
[21:20] <harisund> bastidrazor: thanks man .. grawity anything else?
[21:20] <Harrison_Bergero> zaoul1...That fixed it.....so how did that happen in the first place?
[21:20] <zaoul1> Harrison_Bergero: your welcome... make sure to log out properly so that your session is saved for next time
[21:20] <JoeSomebody> ok thanks guys
[21:20] <eaxexee> Lenny1729: How do you update it?
[21:21] <Lenny1729> eaxexee: I'm gonna download the image and do a fresh installation of Ubuntu 9.10 to get ext4
[21:21] <zaoul1> Harrison_Bergero: usually what happens is gnome-wm is killed, and then  you log out saving the session info 'saving what is running' and being gnome-wm was killed previously ...
[21:21] <skydart> eaxexee, sudo apt-get update
[21:21] <awayguy> is there a possibility to run a webpage like wikipedia, but just for dictionary of openoffice
[21:21] <grawity> zaoul1: The window manager is one of the three "required" parts of the session; it's ran even if not saved previously.
[21:21] <Harrison_Bergero> zaoul1...um...its gone again
[21:21] <eaxexee> Lenny1729: Why not use the builtin?
[21:21] <grawity> zaoul1: (The other two are panel and desktop.)
[21:21] <zhando> zhando: ping
[21:21] <Harrison_Bergero> zaoul1...ill do a windows special....im going to reboot
[21:21] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[21:21] <skydart> From a command line, how do I tell what "Build" I am using?
[21:21] <Lenny1729> eaxexee: the builtin driver? on ubuntu 9.04 the build in driver didn't work... does it work with 9.10?
[21:22] <Harrison_Bergero> zaoul1...dont want to really....torrents are almost to max bandwidth....grr
[21:22] <mattwj2002> the ubuntu servers seem slow lately :(
[21:22] <Sirisian|Work> grawity, thanks. :P
[21:22] <zhando> ping
[21:22] <dpanda> so i overheard ubuntu has ext4, next time i do a fresh install i should choose ext4 too?
[21:22] <Harrison_Bergero> ill let you know if rebooting worked
[21:22] <Scunizi> eaxexee: the built in upgrade? if you have ext3 now and upgrade then ext4 will only really apply to any new files/partitions if I remember correctly..
[21:22] <isabel575> bastid_raZor, i also want to get rid of all the xfce packages and xfce, how do i do that?
[21:22] <eaxexee> Lenny1729: I haven't had ANY problems at all :) But you can update from within Ubuntu, and they added a LOT of drivers in 1729
[21:22] <eitreach> GNOME will not start composited. What can I do to fix this?
[21:22] <mattwj2002> anyone know why?
[21:22] <zaoul1> Harrison_Bergero: just hold up with gnome-wm until your dloads are complete
[21:22] <awayguy> so there is a possibility to build in the "builtin" dictionairy in to openoffice?
[21:22] <Lenny1729> dpanda: ext4 is default
[21:22] <eaxexee> Scunizi: Isn't it possible to mount the drive using a livecd and then convert it?
[21:23] <prince_jammys> isabel575:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[21:23] <Lenny1729> dpanda: ext4 is default in Ubuntu 9.10
[21:23] <dpanda> Lenny1729: oh, ok :)
[21:23] <angelv> zaoul1, but after reebot i need assembly manual
[21:23] <trism> isabel575: sudo apt-get remote xfce4; sudo apt-get autoremote
[21:23] <zaoul1> angelv: says who?
[21:23] <Scunizi> eaxexee: not sure..
[21:23] <trism> isabel575: autoremote, typo
[21:23] <trism> isabel575: arg, autoremove
[21:23] <Roasted> Is there a linux permission for read + write but prevents users from deleting?
[21:23] <trism> isabel575: I can't type
[21:23] <eaxexee> Scunizi: I THINK so :)
[21:23] <Lenny1729> eaxexee, but an update from 9.04 to 9.10 won't bring a real ext4 on my drive I read somewhere
[21:23] <isabel575> trism, with the ; and all?
[21:23] <skydart> Lenny1729: How do I find out what "build"' (trunk?) am running?  What is the command line for doing so?
[21:24] <Scunizi> eitreach: what video card?
[21:24] <Flannel> Lenny1729: correct
[21:24] <bastidrazor> isabel575: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome   ..i thought the factoid included this link. it will give you the information needed.
[21:24] <prince_jammys> isabel575: do what they say there (and make sure you go to the right page depending on whether you have jaunty, ibex, etc.)
[21:24] <eitreach> Scunizi, An Nvidia Geforce 8600GT.
[21:24] <zaoul1> Roasted: doubt it
[21:24] <Hisham> Hello Everyone! I am trying to connect my Portable HD but when i connect the HD to usb port the dmesg doesn't show any sign of detecting it :( what the problem?
[21:24] <eaxexee> Lenny1729: Ohh okay, hmm, well you could download ndiswrapper, the "real" driver, and whatever would be needed to install it and then install it when you are in your new system :)
[21:24] <angelv> zaoul1...
[21:24] <trism> isabel575: well they are two commands
[21:24] <Scunizi> eitreach: and did you enable the restricted drivers?
[21:24] <zaoul1> Roasted: that kind of perm makes no sense
[21:25] <zaoul1> angelv: can you mount the array manually?
[21:25] <Roasted> actually, it kind of does.
[21:25] <bastidrazor> isabel575: yes, at the top of that page it will give you an option to chose which version of ubuntu you're using.
[21:25] <Scunizi> eitreach: I should backtrack.. did you just install?
[21:25] <eitreach> Scunizi, Composite works fine, Gnome just won't start it automatically. I have to manually start Compiz.
[21:25] <isabel575> trism, will the autoremove work for  the kde libraries too?
[21:25] <Lenny1729> eaxexee: Okay, okay and then after that run the "hardware driver" tool, right?
[21:25] <Roasted> I want a user to be able to read/write/do whatever inside of /media/storage, but I dont want them to be able to delete storage.
[21:25] <Roasted> so what permission to I assign to the folder?
[21:25] <feather7> #ubuntu-pl
[21:25] <isabel575> bastidrazor, thank you :)
[21:25] <trism> isabel575: autoremove just removes dependencies that were automatically installed, after they aren't needed
[21:25] <angelv> yes by example i have this text http://pastebin.ca/1640675
[21:25] <Roasted> wait
[21:25] <Roasted> I just realized the answer to myq uestion
[21:25] <angelv> ist old... but have the information
[21:25] <Scunizi> eitreach: ah.. go to System>Preferences>Appearance>Visual Effects and make a change there.
[21:26] <eaxexee> Lenny1729: Well, Ndiswrapper is a tool designed to user Propetary (Can't remember how to spell it sorry) drivers in Linux so I don't think you would need it afterwards
[21:26] <Roasted> a user cannot delete a folder they dont own. So if I own the folder, yet give everybody else group access, even if its RWX access they cant delet /media/storage if they dont own it.
[21:26] <PyroPhelia> Does anybody know if there is such a program that will allow me to keep track of multiple dynamic IP hosts remotely.  I know viruses can do it, is there anything that can do that legitly?
[21:26] <bastidrazor> isabel575: best of luck. please come back and let us know how well that link works for you.
[21:26] <eitreach> Scunizi, tried that.
[21:26] <Roasted> figured out ;)
[21:26] <guntbert> Roasted: to delete a file you need write perms on the directory - so if someone has only rx on a directory he should not be able to delete/create files in there - but please test it
[21:26] <Lenny1729> eaxexee: is there no way to download the file, that "hardware drivers" tool would download manually it provide it via a USB stick to the system
[21:26] <Scunizi> eitreach: does it let you bump the setting to the highest?
[21:26] <zaoul1> guntbert: he wants to write though
[21:26] <eitreach> Scunizi, Yeah.
[21:26] <isabel575> bastidrazor, where can  i find out whihc  ubuntu i'm on?
[21:26] <eaxexee> Lenny1729: I actually don't know, sorry :/
[21:27] <Lenny1729> skydart: uname -r?
[21:27] <eitreach> It has worked before, just not for a while now.
[21:27] <Scunizi> eitreach: are you trying to get the cube?
[21:27] <Lenny1729>  http://gobolinux.org/index.php
[21:27] <bastidrazor> isabel575: in a terminal type lsb_release -a
[21:27] <eitreach> Scunizi, I want Compiz because of the desktop switching capabilities.
[21:27] <Roasted> zaoul1 - its all good. I just realized the answer to my question above. If I own /media/storage and give the users group access, even RWX access, they can read/write but they cant delete /media/storage itself. They can delete stuff inside, but not /media/storage (the root folder, more or less)
[21:27] <Roasted> which is what I wanted
[21:27] <guntbert> zaoul1: of course, write perms on the file and rx on the directory should do just that (if I remember correctly)
[21:27] <Lenny1729> eaxexee: okay, but thanks for your help anyway! It's always great to see how friendly users are in this chat
[21:27] <eitreach> Scunizi, I've been using it for a few years now - I just can't get Gnome to start Compiz on its own. :)
[21:27] <eaxexee> Lenny1729: You are more than welcome :)
[21:27] <isabel575> bastidrazor, these commands will not erase any of my files will they?
[21:28] <isabel575> the home/usr stuff
[21:28] <bastidrazor> isabel575: nothing in your home folder will be touched..
[21:28] <quentusrex> How do I find out why packages were held back?
[21:28] <Scunizi> eitreach: not sure where to guide you here.. if nobody else chimes in try #ubuntu-effects or #compiz
[21:28] <zaoul1> angelv: can you manually mount /dev/md0 ?
[21:28] <eitreach> Scunizi, alright. Thanks for trying.
[21:29] <angelv> zaoul1, please note the line: 03 and 04
[21:29] <isabel575> hardy
[21:29] <gm4486> hi, can i have a bit of help, I accidentaly deleted the sound volume control (up, right corner). Could sb tell me the name of the programm please?
[21:29] <eaxexee> Hi there, I have 3 monitors(15",19" and 19") set up in this order: 15", 19", 19", and I want ALL of them to be used at the same time. I have 2 nvidia cards installed to handle it but right now I can only use the two 19" and have the last one as a separate x screen, which is NOT what I want, what I want is the same as "dualview" just with 3 screens..
[21:29] <angelv> yes, i mount manually with mdadm --assemble --scan --config=/etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[21:30] <angelv> assembly, later mount mount /dev/md0 /home/raid5
[21:30] <trism> gm4486: right click on the panel, add to panel, scroll down to volume control
[21:30] <_akahige_> I uninstalled Wine since I wasn't using it and the apps I'd installed under Wine still appear in the apps menu. how can I get rid of them?
[21:30] <angelv> but i have the line on my fstab  /dev/md0	/home/raid5	auto	defaults				0	3
[21:30] <k5ehx> akappa: there is a menu editor
[21:31] <MostafaSheshtawy>  I can't HEAR anything on my uubuntu 9.04 x64 !!!!! Anyhelp !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
[21:31] <k5ehx> doh, last for _akahige_
[21:31] <DSpair> Scunizi: KVM, Kernel Virtual Machine
[21:31] <gm4486> trism thank you a lot
[21:31] <antonio_bust> wois
[21:31] <yoyoned> !alsa|MostafaSheshtawy
[21:31] <_akahige_> k5ehx:  :)  are the apps *just* in the menu, or are they installed somewhere? (obviously I can't check that since wine's no longer installed)
[21:31] <Scunizi> DSpair: that I would be lost on.. sorry
[21:32] <k5ehx> _akahige_: I believe there is a ~/.wine folder that contains your "virtual C drive", you could look for that and delete it also
[21:32] <angelv> in the past all mount automatically
[21:32] <janisozaur> does ati 9.10 driver work with 2.6.31?
[21:32] <zleap1> sound issues - i find doing sudo alsa reload  can fix it someimes
[21:32] <zleap1> sometimes
[21:32] <grawity> k5ehx: yep, ~/.wine/drive_c/
[21:32] <DSpair> Scunizi: Thanks anyhow!!
[21:32] <ghostman> blubber?
[21:32] <_akahige_> k5ehx & grawity : thanks!
[21:32] <k5ehx> _akahige_: yeah, deleting that will delete your programs installed to wine
[21:33] <nightangel> im tring to Download a Free MMORPG and it wont let me install the client hwo can i get it to install
[21:33] <zaoul1> angelv: maybe try adding the UUID of the array into fstab
[21:33] <gnubie> MostafaSheshtawy,   http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sound-solutions-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html   have you looked here?
[21:33] <angelv> when have the UUID? of /dev/md0
[21:33] <Flannel> nightangel: What are you trying to install?
[21:33] <ghostman> ifn you kick me i`ll whine bitter tears of lost! ;)
[21:33] <trism> nightangel: depends if the mmo supports linux or not (unlikely), if it is windows only, you'll need wine, and then it may or may not work anyway
[21:34] <angelv> what is the command for get the UUID?
[21:34] <nightangel> Regnum
[21:34] <Flannel> ghostman: Please remain ontopic, thanks
[21:34] <ubuntistas> Iam on the beta version of karmic how can i upgrade to RC? any clue?
[21:34] <Flannel> angelv: blkid
[21:34] <ghostman> lol
[21:34] <ghostman> smack!
[21:34] <shawn_> ubuntistas, I believe Karmic support is still in Ubuntu+1
[21:34] <angelv> /dev/md0: UUID="ec417140-5dbc-4615-9e5b-7339576489d4" TYPE="ext3" SEC_TYPE="ext2"
[21:34] <nightangel> i have wine but it wont even open the file is says that there isnt a windows program ......
[21:34] <MJB> I just installed ubuntu on an asus X5DIJ, and I can't turn on wireless network. The usual command is FN+F2, I can see on the internet that other people have had the same problem with other machines, but I cant find a solution. Does anyone know what to do? Thanks,
[21:34] <Scunizi> angelv: sudo blkid
[21:35] <angelv> i see two file systems
[21:35] <angelv> this ist correct?
[21:35] <Cpt_Zyph> quick Q's about the 2 different install downloads. Is ther a download that has both the desktop install and server install.. as i may want to use the GUI on teh server untill i get the hang of things a bit mroe and then reinstall or remove the extra's at a later date.. then also have the same install for setting up the client machines .. or is this just not what ubuntu does?
[21:35] <Scunizi> ubuntistas: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:35] <antonio_bust> k5ehx wois
[21:35] <angelv> TYPE="ext3" SEC_TYPE="ext2"
[21:36] <k5ehx> antonio_bust: ?
[21:36] <illuminati> hi
[21:36] <Scunizi> Cpt_Zyph: you can install the desktop versiona and add the server bits or vice verse
[21:36] <k5ehx> hello, illuminati
[21:36] <illuminati> does someone use tor ?
[21:36] <illuminati> hi k5ehx
[21:36] <Flannel> Cpt_Zyph: If you want a GUI, just install the desktop version and you can remove the GUI stuff later on
[21:36] <krummlauf> hey
[21:36] <krummlauf> so uh
[21:36] <krummlauf> i just installed ubuntu
[21:36] <Cpt_Zyph> rgr that thanks guys so desktop = best for single disk options on install .. rgr that
[21:36] <krummlauf> how do i make it work?
[21:36] <Flannel> Cpt_Zyph: If you want to download a single CD that'll let you do either, the Alternate CD will let you install a GUI, or GUI-less system.
[21:37] <lido`> Anyone know if there is any software/setting that allows you to move/offset the screen on a TV?  The output is not centered on the TV and I need to move it to the right...  I have NVIDIA but can't seem to find any setting there that allows me to offset it
[21:37] <krummlauf> guys?
[21:37] <angelv> if you see my log http://pastebin.ca/1640664  i see this md0: unknown partition table
[21:37] <arvind_khadri> krummlauf, describe what you want?
[21:38] <fbianconi> Cpt_Zyph: I think desktop is a superset of server, not sure tough.
[21:38] <LjL> krummlauf: can you make your question a bit more generic?
[21:38] <krummlauf> ok
[21:38] <Cpt_Zyph> Flannel i'm sry which disk were yous ay'n will have everything? or are you refering to the desktop download install?
[21:38] <krummlauf> well
[21:38] <k5ehx> krummlauf: click the question mark button on the menu bar?
[21:38] <LjL> !enter
[21:38] <krummlauf> i typed in stuff for the terminal
[21:38] <krummlauf> like tried to install flash
[21:38] <Scunizi> lido`: that may be because the screen isn't reading the signal correctly when you switched to it.. turn the tv off then on again to see if it fixes it
[21:38] <krummlauf> and i cant install xchat or anything
[21:38] <angelv> the # blkid show this  /dev/md0: UUID="ec417140-5dbc-4615-9e5b-7339576489d4" TYPE="ext3" SEC_TYPE="ext2"
[21:38] <krummlauf> its frustratin!
[21:38] <Cpt_Zyph> ya this is were i get confused i'm used to fedora were you just pick during install what kind of machine it will be and what to default install with it etc...
[21:38] <k5ehx> krummlauf: do you get an error?
[21:39] <trism> nightangel: they have a linux client on their site, just download and install that
[21:39] <krummlauf> yes
[21:39] <Scunizi> Cpt_Zyph: after installing the desktop you can use tasksel to install specific things like the LAMP stack
[21:39] <krummlauf> its the dumbest thing ever4
[21:39] <nightangel> yea i did but its not opening
[21:39] <nightangel> on my system
[21:39] <nightangel> thats why im here
[21:39] <Cpt_Zyph> Scunizi rgr .. what exactly is tasksel.. and what does ubuntu use thats similar to yum or does it also use yum?
[21:39] <nightangel> cause its giveing me a headach and id love to have somthing be sides cussing at my screen to do
[21:40] <Cpt_Zyph> tasksel = some service selector or application installer?
[21:40] <krummlauf> is ubuntu supposed to be super annoying?
[21:40] <krummlauf> and not work for anything?
[21:40] <arvind_khadri> krummlauf, what did you type, please be more clear
[21:40] <guntbert> !details | krummlauf
[21:40] <krummlauf> ok
[21:40] <krummlauf> im running 9.04
[21:40] <k5ehx> krummlauf: you have to plug it in. :-)
[21:40] <krummlauf> jumping jackalope or whatever
[21:40] <Scunizi> Cpt_Zyph: it uses apt.. tasksel is available from System>Admin>Synaptic Package manager..>edit>choose packages by task
[21:40] <krummlauf> jaunty jackalope
[21:40] <krummlauf> i forget
[21:40] <krummlauf> so i try to install flash or whatever in the terminal
[21:40] <guntbert> !enter | krummlauf
[21:41] <krummlauf> ok sorry
[21:41] <krummlauf> so i look up the code, and type the code in for flash, and it gives me some long dumb error
[21:41] <trism> nightangel: it looks like a bin file, just make sure it is chmod 755 and run it on the command line (./name_of_file_here)
[21:41] <krummlauf> its freakin dumb
[21:41] <arvind_khadri> krummlauf, paste the error, in pastebin..
[21:41] <Cpt_Zyph> ok so its a package manager etc.. rgr that thanks again fro deal'n / help'n me with my noobie Q's its time to start the download and get my feet wet on a vmachine before i decide on replacing my server from fedora to ubuntu.. (tho CentOS would be safer it reeds like .. hwo ever i can't get the simplify media streamer working on anything else atm.. ) thx again guys
[21:42] <guntbert> krummlauf: please cool down - people here are trying to help
[21:42] <krummlauf> i dont know what the rror is
[21:42] <trism> nightangel: I can't really test it cause it'd take me a while to download, you may need to sudo to install it
[21:42] <krummlauf> its long
[21:42] <arvind_khadri> !paste | krummlauf
[21:42] <krummlauf> like IE BLABALBALBALBABLA
[21:42] <krummlauf> there was a five in there as well
[21:42] <krummlauf> well im on windows right now
[21:42] <k5ehx> krummlauf: lol
[21:42] <krummlauf> why cant that crap just work the way its supposed to?
[21:42] <guntbert> krummlauf: so your ubuntu works, your real problem is that you cannot play flash applications
[21:43] <guntbert> ?
[21:43] <krummlauf> yeah it works
[21:43] <krummlauf> it just wont accept my freakin code
[21:43] <arvind_khadri> krummlauf, as you arent doing it the way its supposed to be
[21:43] <LjL> krummlauf: again - can you be a bit more generic?
[21:43] <nightangel> ok so where is this chmod 755 located at im kinda new to ubuntu
[21:43] <LjL> !flash > krummlauf    (krummlauf, see the private message from ubottu)
[21:43] <krummlauf> ok
[21:43] <Ahadiel> krummlauf, Maybe if you showed us the "code" you used
[21:43] <LjL> krummlauf: you're being too specific in the description of your problems, really
[21:43] <LjL> krummlauf: also, *i am being sarcastic*
[21:43] <krummlauf> :P
[21:43] <k5ehx> LjL: lol, exactly
[21:43] <krummlauf> well, i cant really describe it because im on windows
[21:43] <guntbert> LjL: are you sure that irony is in place here? ("generic")
[21:43] <krummlauf> and i was drunk while i did this
[21:44] <LjL> guntbert: i am sure that trolling isn't, and i strongly suspect this is a case of it
[21:44] <Cpt_Zyph> does ubuntu come out with new versions every 6 months or longer?
[21:44] <trism> nightangel: chmod 755 file_name_here on the command line Applications/Accessories/Terminal, make sure you are in the same directory as the file
[21:44] <krummlauf> so if i switched to ubuntu, i wouldnt be able to get on irc
[21:44] <danny> Afternoon everyone well I am running Ubuntu 9.10 RC and I was wondering if it's possible to change the boot screen
[21:44]  * Scunizi smells a small furry humanoid that lives under a brigde
[21:44] <krummlauf> because it wont install anything
[21:44] <krummlauf> do you see the problem here?
[21:44] <trism> nightangel: ls lists the contents of directories and cd changes directories
[21:44] <krummlauf> dude i am not trolling
[21:44] <arvind_khadri> Cpt_Zyph, yes
[21:45] <nightangel> so if the file is on desktop that is the  directory that i need right
[21:45] <krummlauf> i was drunk while trying to use ubuntu
[21:45] <LjL> krummlauf: "sudo apt-get install xchat" will allow you to install an IRC client (xchat - substitute "irssi" for installing irssi). if that doesn't work, i'm afraid you *will* hav to copy down the actual errors and tell us.
[21:45] <krummlauf> ljl: ok
[21:45] <krummlauf> fine
[21:45] <Scunizi> Cpt_Zyph: every 6 mths.. yes.. and every 3 years is a LTS release.. long term support.. support for the other releases is 18 mths.. LTS server is 5 years
[21:45] <guntbert> LjL, Scunizi maybe your noses are more sensitive :)
[21:45] <krummlauf> thanks guys
[21:45] <trism> nightangel: yeah, on the desktop would be cd ~/Desktop (capital d is important)
[21:45] <LjL> !software > krummlauf    (krummlauf, see the private message from ubottu) check this out too, and see what happens if you try installing while sober
[21:45] <krummlauf> btw i *DID* type that in
[21:45] <krummlauf> crappy dumb ubuntu gave me an error message
[21:45] <krummlauf> how is that good?
[21:45] <Scunizi> guntbert: :)
[21:45] <arvind_khadri> Cpt_Zyph, but there are LTS too, supported for 3 years...
[21:45] <arvind_khadri> !lts > Cpt_Zyph
[21:45] <krummlauf> people keep saying use ubuntu its so great! well guys, here to tell you the product stinks
[21:45] <angelv> i re-booting this machine, after enter again...
[21:45] <Cpt_Zyph> any torent downloads or only via there web page? i would like to start the download torrent remote so it will be there when i get home i must be over looking
[21:46] <LjL> krummlauf, once again, complaining that ubuntu is "crappy" will serve no purpose. random complaining will serve no purpose. desist from it, please.
[21:46] <Scunizi> Cpt_Zyph: there is a torrent link on ubuntu.com..
[21:46] <krummlauf> ok
[21:46] <LjL> krummlauf: come back when you have actual error messages to show us.
[21:46] <zleap1> krummlauf, why does it stink, what is the problem
[21:46] <LjL> krummlauf: good luck!
[21:46] <krummlauf> im just super frustrated
[21:46] <krummlauf> ok
[21:46] <nightangel> kk ill try it
[21:46] <krummlauf> i will
[21:46] <guntbert> krummlauf: please stop your ranting
[21:46] <krummlauf> later guys
[21:46] <FloodBot3> krummlauf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:46] <krummlauf> :P
[21:46] <krummlauf> sigh
[21:46] <swindle> how do i put sbin in my PATH?
[21:46] <arvind_khadri> Cpt_Zyph, check out ubuntu.com
[21:46] <k5ehx> you guys have more patience for trolls than I do
[21:47] <Cpt_Zyph> arvind_khadri i'm missing the torrent link i guess
[21:47] <danny> Is there a way to change the ubuntu 9.10 boot screen
[21:48] <arvind_khadri> danny,  that would be #ubuntu+1
[21:48] <Cpt_Zyph> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[21:48] <arvind_khadri> Cpt_Zyph, yeah, just check out the site, you will find it..
[21:49] <Cpt_Zyph> and i'm guess'n i386 will work on intel / and amd chips vs amd only install for amd chips
[21:49] <zamba> i need to get mp3 encoder for vlc.. how do i get that? which packages?
[21:49] <MenZa> Cpt_Zyph: Nope, any 64-bit chip.
[21:49] <nightangel> ok i changed directories how do i do this chmod 755 thing
[21:49] <MenZa> Cpt_Zyph: Well, x86_64
[21:49] <arvind_khadri> Cpt_Zyph, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[21:49] <Cpt_Zyph> i see thx guys take care a baby is being born i have to relocate
[21:49] <Scunizi> Cpt_Zyph: check this link.. on the right side and down in the page under "More Options" http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[21:49] <guntbert> swindle: how did you loose it?
[21:49] <swindle> the only entry to bath i see in .bashrc is "export PATH=$PATH:."
[21:49] <trism> nightangel: chmod 755 file_name_here, it makes a file executable
[21:50] <swindle> where do i add sbin to my path
[21:50] <Scunizi> nightangel: or sudo +x <filename>
[21:50] <nightangel> chmod 755 RegnumOnlineInstall_32 like that
[21:50] <trism> nightangel: yep
[21:51] <nightangel> so the entire line would look like nightangel@Wolf-Den:~/Desktop$ chmod 755 RegnumOnlineInstall_32
[21:51] <trism> nightangel: yep
[21:51] <swindle> hehe found it
[21:51] <nightangel> nightangel@Wolf-Den:~/Desktop$
[21:51] <nightangel> did it and thats was the next line
[21:52] <arvind_khadri> nightangel, that means it worked fine :)
[21:52] <mechdave> swindle, sbin should already be in your $PATH, use echo $PATH to see it
[21:52] <nightangel> ok mind explaining a lil bit what you had me just do
[21:52] <trism> nightangel: that's fine, now you probably need to sudo ./RegnumOnlineInstall_32
[21:52] <janisozaur> i have some additional keys on my laptop, i remember that once there was utility called 'scancode' or 'scankey' that'd show what key code was received from keyboard, i can't find it in ubuntu repos now, though. how can i check what key code was sent from my kbd?
[21:52] <trism> nightangel: although they might let you install it locally
[21:53] <ZykoticK9> swindle, FYI - having "." in your path, and your current /sbin in path is NOT a good idea for security.  If you don't wish to follow *nix conventions that is your own business, but I'd suggest against it.  Best of luck.
[21:53] <Cpt_Zyph> is the alternate torrent = the ppc version?
[21:53] <nightangel> so will that comand work on any game file that i want to install on my system
[21:53] <behappy> its possible to make ftp server to accept connection from  specified ftp client user agent ?
[21:53] <Scunizi> Cpt_Zyph: no it's a text based installer
[21:53] <trism> Cpt_Zyph: alternate is the text-mode installer, it supports a few different install options
[21:54] <zleap1> behappy, not sure but I think you can do that with ssh and scp
[21:54] <trism> nightangel: not necessarily, that is just the kind of installer they are using, some may use deb packages, or install scripts
[21:54] <docmax> i have a problem with gnome desktop... the icons are not positioning in a grid
[21:54] <dominique> hi - do you know a prog that display pressed keys (for making video tutoriials)?
[21:54] <zleap1> or may be able to do something like that with hosts.allow not sure
[21:54] <arvind_khadri> janisozaur, xev ??
[21:54] <Cpt_Zyph> i see.. well hummm god i feel tarded.. were is teh ppc release link.. ( i asked in #ubuntu-ppc how ever there were only 15 people in there and 0 response )
[21:55] <usser> ZykoticK9, i thought having . in PATH is fine as long as it goes after /bin:/sbin etc
[21:55] <behappy> zleap1, with ftp its possble ?
[21:55] <zleap1> forkhandles, - is your nick anything to do with the two ronnies sketch
[21:55] <docmax> i have a problem with gnome desktop... the icons are not positioning in a grid - like in windows... what can i do?
[21:55] <Scunizi> docmax: right mouse click in a blank area and see if "keep aligned" is checked
[21:55] <zleap1> behappy, ok,  not sure how to do it though
[21:55] <mechdave> janisozaur, try out showkey --> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man1/showkey.1.html
[21:55] <ZykoticK9> usser, well that's "better" anyways
[21:55] <arvind_khadri> Cpt_Zyph, google it..
[21:55] <docmax> keep alinged is checked
[21:56] <janisozaur> mechdave, arvind_khadri thanks, i'll try these out
[21:56] <arvind_khadri> docmax, right click and do arrange by name
[21:56] <ZykoticK9> !google | arvind_khadri
[21:57] <janisozaur> mechdave: i think it was showkey, just with --scancode and i just remembered it name wrong ;)
[21:57] <docmax> arvind_khadri, they are aranged now... but when moving the are not really fixed.... the icons overlap easily...
[21:57] <midocrash> hi hackers
[21:57] <arvind_khadri> ZykoticK9, got it...would keep in mind
[21:58] <Scunizi> Cpt_Zyph: ah.. you still need ppc?  they may have dropped it....
[21:58] <arvind_khadri> docmax, i guess, thats how its meant to be...not sure though.
[21:58] <midocrash> i got Ubuntu today :)
[21:58] <midocrash> i take over of Windows
[21:58] <zleap1> midocrash, cool
[21:59] <midocrash> yeh cooooooooool
[21:59] <midocrash> very cool
[21:59] <arvind_khadri> !ppc > Cpt_Zyph
[21:59] <docmax> can i change the desktop manager?
[21:59] <midocrash> it's so fast and simple
[21:59] <zleap1> which version i take it 9.04
[21:59] <midocrash> that's what i love of ubuntu
[21:59] <Scunizi> docmax: sure.. what do you want?
[21:59] <ZykoticK9> midocrash, if you're looking for general Ubuntu chat use #ubuntu-offtopic -- #ubuntu is for support issues only
[21:59] <midocrash> OK
[21:59] <zleap1> docmax, you can change between gnome / kde / xubuntu depending on what desktop you want
[21:59] <forkhandles> zleap1: funniest comedy sketch ever written :)
[21:59] <zleap1> forkhandles, yeah
[22:00] <docmax> a manager which handles the icon-fixing better
[22:00] <zleap1> i need some ose
[22:00] <zleap1> no letter o's
[22:00] <zleap1> lol
[22:00] <docmax> i installed ubuntu .. how can i switch gnome to xfce?
[22:00] <zleap1> its on you tube somewhere
[22:00] <ZykoticK9> zleap1, yes -- look at "sessions" in GDM when you log in - lets you choose with Desktop environment or Windows Manager you want
[22:00] <usser> docmax, you might try ditching icons altogether and go with gnome-do/docky
[22:00] <docmax> what is gnome-do?
[22:00] <zleap1> ZykoticK9, don't they ahve to be installed though
[22:01] <Scunizi> docmax: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop then on the login screen change "sessions" to xfce4
[22:01] <ZykoticK9> zleap1, of course
[22:01] <usser> docmax, http://do.davebsd.com/
[22:01] <Scunizi> usser: now that'll confuse him :)
[22:01] <Scunizi> usser: sorry.. didn't realize he was asking about it
[22:01] <zleap1> its something like apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[22:02] <scottica> hello... i'm interested in switching to ubuntu from windows xp and have two hard disks, both ntfs... one has my music files... i can't lose these files. will i be able to access my files without formatting the disk?
[22:02] <aguasala> ola
[22:02] <zleap1> but you should be able to do that from synaptic
[22:02] <Scunizi> scottica: yes
[22:02] <PyroPhelia> if I have an ubuntu box running in run level 3, is it possible to have remote clients log in using remote desktop or does the xserver have to be active?
[22:02] <usser> Scunizi, he wasnt. i just kinda threw it out there. i know i havent needed icons on a desktop for a long while
[22:02] <scottica> scunizi: anything special need to be done?
[22:03] <aguasala> hello
[22:04] <aguasala> helloooooooooooooooooooo
[22:04] <jjnw> PyroPhelia, to use remote desktop type app, x has to be running. You should be able to ssh into the box and start x applications though.
[22:04] <Scunizi> scottica: are you going to eliminate windows entirly or do you want to dual boot or do you just want to test ubuntu to see if you like it?
[22:04] <mattgyver> scottica: it will recognize them automagically.  Do you already have ubuntu installed or are you going to have to setup the partitions?
[22:04] <aguasala> whats that
[22:04] <scottica> scunizi: i'm planning on eliminating windows entirely
[22:04] <aguasala> windows va
[22:05] <PyroPhelia> jjnw, I know, but i'd rather not waste the ram on the system for 1 user who shouldn't have access to the server in the first place.  If you don't know how to use the shell you shouldn't be using linux.  but I got over ruled :(
[22:05] <PyroPhelia> jjnw, thanks though
[22:05] <scottica> mattgyver: i have yet to install ubuntu
[22:05] <Scunizi> scottica: then install only to the drive that has windows.. do you have any music that has "licensing" drm like iTunes stuff?
[22:06] <mattgyver> scottica: i would backup your data, your gonna have to setup the partitoins for ubuntu and its easy to accidently wipe your data if you havent done it before.
[22:06] <jjnw> PyroPhelia, no problem. As far as I'm aware, remote desktops apps. are more 'screen scraper'
[22:06] <scottica> scunizi: no drm
[22:06] <vim-editor> hello
[22:06] <scottica> mattgyver: sounds good
[22:06] <aguasala> Hello, I am Spanish help not much of English but alone I say q windows in a roll
[22:06] <Scunizi> scottica: to be safe.. disconnect the music files drive when installing.. then there will be no oops moments
[22:06] <guntbert> !es | aguasala
[22:07] <mattgyver> scottica: its not that hard but, i would do it.  If yoru able to put ubuntu and your swap as the last partitions you can just leave the ntfs file systems and it will recognize them (you probably need to mount them manually, or add to fstab)
[22:07] <scottica> scunizi, mattgyver: thank you very much
[22:08] <Scunizi> mattgyver: he's going to use one entire drive for ubuntu and the other has music
[22:08] <vim-editor> hello
[22:08] <vim-editor> hi
[22:09] <Scunizi> nobody here but us chickens
[22:09] <Scunizi> excuse me... penguins
[22:12] <brandon_> why cant i find a karmic minimal iso??
[22:13] <brandon_> anybody
[22:13] <brandon_> please
[22:13] <Ghoul> on the internets
[22:13] <brandon_> no shit?
[22:14] <brandon_> ive searched
[22:14] <Pyru> hello, im new to linux and im on a mac machine with ubuntu installed, i can't seem to get sound working
[22:14] <brandon_> i cant find the karmic minimal cd
[22:14] <Ghoul> hehe just kidding
[22:14] <Ghoul> no idea what you're talking about
[22:15] <brandon_> you dont know what a minimal install is?
[22:15] <Ghoul> didn't know there is some miminalistic install
[22:15] <Ghoul> thought there's only the desktop and a server edition
[22:15] <brandon_> ok
[22:15] <Scunizi> looking at the different files (x86, 64bit etc) .. karmac seems to have downloads available for Marvel Dove computers.. google doesn't turn anything up.. what kind of machine is that?
[22:15] <prince_jammys> brandon_: try at #ubuntu+1 , karmic's channel
[22:15] <syphys> Hello what is the installer's name in lives cd please
[22:15] <brandon_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[22:15] <prince_jammys> syphys: ubiquity
[22:16] <Ghoul> thnx brandon_ didn't know
[22:16] <syphys> prince_jammys> Thank you
[22:16] <prince_jammys> syphys: at least that's what was called a year or so ago :)
[22:17] <Ghoul> well brandon_ karmic final comes out in about a week,, i'll also wait for it
[22:17] <prince_jammys> *what it was called..
[22:17] <Pyru> hello, im new to linux and im on a mac machine with ubuntu installed, i can't seem to get sound working, any help woud be appreciated.(tried a few tuts, to no avail)
[22:19] <Scunizi> there are iso's avialble for karmac for the Marvel Dove platform.. what's that?
[22:19] <prince_jammys> !sound > Pyru : see if this is of use to you
[22:19] <syphys> I want to test an install on a usb without make a liveusb it is what you would do prince_jammys?
[22:19] <prince_jammys> !sound | Pyru : see if this is of use to you
[22:19] <NavyWife> Running VirtualBox 3.0 on Ubuntu 9.04 - with nVidia 9 series card. How do I get VB to allow me to increase the video memory so I can play my game?
[22:20] <m1ke> I installed Samba via Nautilus and everything was fine for a few weeks. Now however, my shared folders are still shared on the network but when I right-click and select sharing options they appear unshared.  The folder icon has also changed back to normal.  Anyone know whats up?
[22:20] <prince_jammys> NavyWife: try at #virtualbox also
[22:20] <NavyWife> thank you
[22:20] <neglesaks> question: are anyone else having lost their youtube playback ability the last 3 days? (ref: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gstreamer0.10/+bug/459043 )
[22:21] <alessandro> salve
[22:21] <alessandro> come faccio a sapere quali soono le chiavi ipv4 da inserire
[22:22] <alessandro> ?
[22:22] <Scunizi> NavyWife: before loading the guest vm highlight it and choose settings.. you should be able to adjust it someplace inthere.
[22:22] <Scunizi> *in there
[22:22] <guntbert> !it | alessandro
[22:22] <alessandro> sorry!
[22:22] <Scunizi> NavyWife: the other channel is actually #vbox
[22:22] <syphys> Can I install kubuntu envenif my ubiquity it's on Ubuntu?
[22:23] <docmax> how do i define my standard video player?
[22:23] <NavyWife> Scunizi: Thanks... Not getting much of a response there
[22:23] <blizzkid> Lo all. does anyone have experience in taking exams for a linux course?
[22:23] <Scunizi> syphys: if you are installing from a live cd and you downloaded ubuntu then after the install you can sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop..
[22:23] <NavyWife> Scuinzi: Rather, none
[22:23] <Scunizi> NavyWife: they are on a different time zone
[22:23] <XsCode> docmax: preferred applications?
[22:24] <Scunizi> NavyWife: also.. that channel is not as "fast" as this one is.. you have to wait for a while
[22:24] <syphys> Ok thakns Scunizi I'll go do that
[22:24] <NavyWife> Scunizi: Also good to know!
[22:24] <docmax> XsCode, right =)
[22:24] <dks57> just installed ubuntu 64bit, can not get videos from network sites to play.  don't think my graphics card is properly installed because and i can not change visual effects settings.
[22:25] <swindle> anyone know how to remove system messages from xchat?
[22:25] <docmax> XsCode, doesnt work
[22:25] <Scunizi> NavyWife: I found the setting for increased vid memory.. didn't you?
[22:25] <pelmen> guys, i have just upgraded my grub to grub2 and then ext3 to ext4 do i now need to do step 3 and reinstall grub again to ensure system will boot without problems after next kernel change ?
[22:26] <joaopinto> pelmen, are you using karmic ?
[22:26] <NavyWife> Scunizi: I have the spot to increase it, but it is locked @ 128, and I need it to run to 500mb. With my video card, there's no reason it shouldn't. RUnning a 768OC
[22:26] <pelmen> joaopinto: 9.04
[22:26] <Scunizi> NavyWife: what version of vbox..?  the one from the repos?
[22:27] <NavyWife> Scunizi: Negative. Newest platform 3.0
[22:28] <gsv> someone do me a favor. paste the output of the following commands on a pastebin: uname -a; netstat --version; md5sum /bin/netstat
[22:28] <Mariandroid> ummm, I made a booboo, I changed rights in the wrong userdir... is there a way to restore original settings and owners ?
[22:28] <Scunizi> NavyWife: that's strange.. have you checked the online docs at virtualbox.org?
[22:28] <jrib> Mariandroid: only by changing the rights back
[22:28]  * Mariandroid has no clue what they were =)
[22:29] <NavyWife> Scunizi: Yes. I have been hunting everywhere for three days now. :) IRC was my last hope
[22:29] <Scunizi> NavyWife: you've probably already done this but are you a member of the vbox group?
[22:29] <NavyWife> Scunizi: Actually no
[22:29] <NavyWife> Scunizi: I think.
[22:29] <XsCode> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1742036&postcount=3
[22:29] <Scunizi> NavyWife: :).. you might try that
[22:29] <xand> NavyWife: you could edit the config file manually - don't know what it would do
[22:30] <XsCode> docmax: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1742036&postcount=3
[22:30] <xand> it might not work
[22:30] <NavyWife> Scunizi: I'm willing to try it
[22:30] <gsv> anyone?
[22:30] <guntbert> gsv: http://pastebin.com/f30d56e2a
[22:30] <Scunizi> NavyWife: after adding yourself you'll have to log out and back in again
[22:30] <syphys> Do I make a swap for a unbuntu on a usbkey?
[22:30] <XsCode> docmax: substitute movieplayer for your movie player of choice
[22:30] <NavyWife> Scunizi: What do I have to do
[22:31] <Scunizi> NavyWife: to add yourself to the group or logout?
[22:31] <LjL> syphys: probably not a good idea, it won't do the flash memory on the usb key any good
[22:31] <docmax> very complicated
[22:31] <daedaluz> so I was asking this in 4chan but they directed me here
[22:31] <Mariandroid> so there is no way to reset the entire system short of a new install
[22:31] <Mariandroid> ?
[22:31] <NavyWife> Scunizi: Add myself to the group.. Or change the config file. I figure I've already wasted three days, can't ghurt to toss one more out the window
[22:32] <n8tuser> Mariandroid -> what was the problem? i just came in
[22:32] <XsCode> daedaluz: if that's complicated you got serious problems!
[22:32] <syphys> Ok thanks Ljl
[22:32] <Mariandroid> I changed owners and rights in the wron directory
[22:32] <Mariandroid> g
[22:32] <XsCode> sorry deadaLUZ, clicked the wrong name
[22:32] <daedaluz> if I were to install Ubuntu and wanted at some later point add another HDD, how could I expand my /home there?
[22:32] <gigasoft> is there dvd player emulator for watching dvd's
[22:32] <Scunizi> NavyWife: system>admin>users & groups.. unlock .. click Manage groups.. find virtualbox highlight and click properties
[22:33] <XsCode> docmax: not complicated, very easy... 10 seconds to do
[22:33] <n8tuser> Mariandroid -> are you logged into it? which dir you changed perms on?
[22:33] <Scunizi> NavyWife: make sure there is a tic mark next to your user name
[22:33] <Mariandroid>  /
[22:33] <n8tuser> Mariandroid -> are you logged into it now?
[22:33] <Mariandroid> yes
[22:33] <Mariandroid> I'm on it
[22:33] <Mariandroid> but forinstance konverstion only starts under sudo
[22:33] <n8tuser> !who | Mariandroid
[22:34] <Mariandroid> ah
[22:34] <NavyWife> Scunizi: Great thank you. Got that set
[22:34] <isabel575> help i can't go back to puregnome, i tried doing what the psychocats page says and i got this isabel@isabel:~$ sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 kdelibs5-data && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [sudo] password for isabel: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) : Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[22:34] <Mariandroid> n8tuser:  oki, I'll prefix my lines
[22:34] <Scunizi> NavyWife: now you'll have to log out or reboot.. log out should suffice
[22:34] <NavyWife> Will do. brb I'm sure
[22:34] <n8tuser> Mariandroid -> well if you hve managed to change several dirs under /  it will be a bit cumbersome to change it back
[22:35] <Scunizi> isabel575: close add/remove or synaptic.. you have something else open that uses those "rights"
[22:35] <Mariandroid> n8tuser: so... reinstall ?
[22:36] <isabel575> Scunizi, how can i check what's using those rights? on the system monitor?
[22:36] <n8tuser> Mariandroid -> yes, shouldnt be that long.. btw, you have your /home in a separate partition?
[22:36] <Mariandroid> yes
[22:36] <Scunizi> isabel575: do you have synaptic package manager open?
[22:36] <Mariandroid> n8tuser: yes
[22:36] <Mariandroid> oosp
[22:36] <isabel575> Scunizi, nope
[22:36] <n8tuser> Mariandroid -> then it will not be too bad to re-install, should be around 25 mins or so
[22:36] <Scunizi> isabel575: hummmm... log out and back in and try again..
[22:37] <Mariandroid> n8tuser: I'll keep my settings ?
[22:37] <syphys> See you
[22:37] <isabel575> ok
[22:37] <n8tuser> !backup
[22:37] <n8tuser> !clone | Mariandroid
[22:38] <pyhacker> My copiz broke, so I tried to fix it and one of the things i did was re-create the Xconf file. I suspect that because of this (maybe not) my ubuntu does not load anymore. After the loading bar finishes the screen just shows messed up pixels. What can I do?
[22:38] <Mariandroid> n8tuser: Oki, that was greek to me, but I figure I'll just go for it then
[22:38] <Mariandroid> n8tuser: thank you =)
[22:39] <n8tuser> Mariandroid -> read the ubottu paste again, its not difficult
[22:39] <jhaig> Is it possible to install the BBC iPlayer software (for downloading programmes rather than streaming) system wide?  I noticed that it wants to install in /opt, but how can I make it available for all users, not just the user who installs it?
[22:39] <akappa> jhaig, why just don't use vlc?
[22:39] <akappa> or mplayer with dumping
[22:39] <guntbert> n8tuser: just a question: if Mariandroid messed up the permissions in his home directory - how would a reinstall help?
[22:40] <Scunizi> pyhacker: ctrl+alt+F2 log in.. then cd /etc/X11 and then ls to display files.. look for a backup of xorg.. might have a tilde ~ or .backup in the file name.. then mv <backup file> xorg.conf ... then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[22:40] <Mariandroid> it's not my home directory guntbert, it's my root
[22:40] <n8tuser> guntbert -> it would have root permission i supposed? so to recover it would not be extremely difficult for /home
[22:40] <Mariandroid> ( and 'her' )
[22:40] <n8tuser> am assuming she only had one user too
[22:41] <pyhacker> Scunizi: thanks for repliying but i tried pressing ctrl+alt+F2 to log in but it doesn't work. It doesn't respond to anything once it shows the messed up pixels.
[22:41] <Mariandroid> n8tuser: there are four users...
[22:41] <daedaluz> so I was asking this in 4chan but they directed me here
[22:41] <Scunizi> pyhacker: hit the combination a couple of times in a row..
[22:41] <daedaluz> if I were to install Ubuntu and wanted at some later point add another HDD, how could I expand my /home there?
[22:42] <n8tuser> Mariandroid -> perhaps you can take care of that first, change the perms of respective owners of /home/username1 for example
[22:42] <pyhacker> Scunizi: oh, I will try.
[22:42] <guntbert> Mariandroid: n8tuser ok sorry, I didn't look at the whole conversation - Mariandroid please follow n8tuser's advice
[22:42] <Scunizi> daedaluz: you could move your /home there with no problem.. if you just wanted to extend the space for /home you'll need to install LVM when you install ubuntu..
[22:42]  * Mariandroid will try
[22:42] <Mariandroid> n8tuser: guntbert: I'll try
[22:42] <n8tuser> Mariandroid -> do all four of them one by one
[22:43] <Scunizi> pyhacker: if that doesn't work.. on the boot grub menu there is a rescue option.. go there
[22:43] <daedaluz> Scunizi: ok. anything I should know about LVM vs. regular partitioning?
[22:43] <daedaluz> Scunizi: I know what LVM means
[22:44] <Scunizi> daedaluz: lots.. but I don't know how to use LVM.. it's been explained to me and I can see it's benefits but have never used it
[22:44] <isabel575> Scunizi, i logged out and i gget the same output
[22:44] <Scunizi> isabel575: remind me what we're talking about.. I've been chatting a lot today
[22:44] <RoastedTiresX> I'm trying to understand something with Linux permissions. How is it set up, exactly? It seems as if the permissions on certain files are really dictated by the folder they're in. For example, my folder I'm speaking of (storage) is owned by jason:smbusers with 775 permissions. "user" is a member of smbusers. On the account user, I can delete files within "storage" that are owned by jason:jason, so user has no involvement with o
[22:44] <RoastedTiresX> wning that particular file. Yet, Ican delete it. Is that because of the directory permissions being 775 with jason:smbusers as owner?
[22:45] <guntbert> daedaluz: see http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_lvm
[22:45] <Scunizi> RoastedTiresX: yep.. the user jason is a member of the smbusers group
[22:46] <RoastedTiresX> scunizi - right. but "user" is not a member of the group jason. Yet I can delete a file owned by jason:jason within storage when I'm logged in as user. Is that just becuase the folder the file is in (storage) is owned by group smbusers?
[22:47] <zoldar> I am having performance problems with ati/radeon drivers under 9.04. My hardware is Thinkpad X32 with ATI Mobility L6 MY. Anybody got around this issue? Screen redrawing under X feels really sluggish.
[22:47] <Billiard> RoastedTiresX: adding and removing files follows the permissions of the parent directory
[22:47] <stuff> when is UNR 9.10 out?
[22:48] <system4041> guys need help moving files from ext3 to ntfs partition via live cd i keep getting access denied
[22:48] <stuff> su root
[22:48] <n8tuser> RoastedTiresX -> including ability to read through a dir, is subject to the parents dir perms
[22:48] <stuff> or mount -rw
[22:48] <guntbert> !su | stuff
[22:49] <RoastedTiresX> billiard - But even though it "follows" the permissions of the parent directory, it doesn't "apply" them. For example - storage is owned by jason:smbusers. Why is it when I add a file within storage, it takes on jason:jason permissions and not jason:smbusers if it follows the parent directory?
[22:49] <system4041> anyone help please
[22:49] <yoyoned> !noroot|stuff
[22:49] <guntbert> stuff: please don't recommend that here
[22:49] <cgardner> I have a freshly installed server that hangs on a GRUB screen.  Where do I start my investigation?
[22:49] <system4041> guys need help moving files from ext3 to ntfs partition via live cd i keep getting access denied
[22:49] <Billiard> RoastedTiresX: by default new files take the owner and group of the creator, you can set the setgid bit on the directory then new files will be created with the directory's group id
[22:50] <k5ehx> system4041: you need to mount the NTFS partition read / write
[22:50] <RoastedTiresX> Billiard - hmm, how do I set the setgid? Is that a bad idea (security issue?)
[22:50] <system4041> k5ehx: but im in a live cd i need to move files from my unbootable ubuntu 9.04 to my bootable windows 7 ntfs partition
[22:50] <Billiard> RoastedTiresX: chmod g+s directory
[22:51] <stuff> lol, I forgot, this is ubuntu
[22:51] <stuff> lol
[22:51] <RoastedTiresX> Billiard - ...thats it? If I just run chmod g+s on storage thats all I need to do?
[22:51] <RoastedTiresX> Billiard - what does the g+s stand for?
[22:51] <stuff> anyway, when is UNR 9.10 out?
[22:51] <k5ehx> system4041: um, I can't remember. The live CD used to mount things read only.
[22:52] <Billiard> RoastedTiresX: its not a security issue if you want files in that directory to automatically have the group set
[22:52] <Scunizi> RoastedTiresX: permissions is a long discussion.. and I don't have it all down.. basically if the file/folder is owned by you only then you have full permission.  if you are a member of a group that is not your group then you have rights to that group but still typically need sudo to delete files there.
[22:52] <system4041> k5ehx: basicly i need sudo access to my ext3 partition via live cd so as to move files to my ntfs partition
[22:52] <siekacz> .j #chipp[l
[22:52] <RoastedTiresX> scunizi - unless that group has RWX rights.
[22:52] <k5ehx> system4041: it should mount your ext3 partition if it is valid
[22:53] <Scunizi> RoastedTiresX: yes.. rwxrwxrwx.. permissions are 3 blocks of 3
[22:53] <k5ehx> system4041: if not you may have to repair it
[22:53] <guntbert> !permissions | RoastedTiresX
[22:53] <system4041> k5ehx: it is valid but i dont have the access to move the files it keeps saying access denied
[22:53] <RoastedTiresX> scunizi - right... but if the group has rwx permissions, the group can freely delete/write files as they wish.
[22:53] <k5ehx> system4041: you want to copy instead of move, and you have to mount the NTFS partition writable to do that.
[22:53] <system4041> k5ehx:  like trying to edit a file in live cd u have to open it with sudo in gedit in order to save your changes well i need such access in file explorer so as to move my files
[22:54] <pyhacker> Scunizi: No good, I pressed ctrl+alt+F2 many times and it doesn't respond
[22:54] <k5ehx> system4041: ahh, I think you want to use gksudo and run the browser (nautilus?) manually
[22:54] <system4041> k5ehx:  The folder ".ssh" cannot be handled because you do not have permissions to read it.
[22:55] <RoastedTiresX> Billiard - I just ran chmod g+s on a folder to test it, and ls -l gave me this. drwxrwsr-x 2 jason smbusers 4096 2009-10-23 17:53 x. What's with the rws?
[22:55] <system4041> k5ehx:  howd i do that
[22:55] <k5ehx> system4041: like hit alt-f2, type "gksudo nautilus" or /usr/bin/whatever, dunno where it is.
[22:55] <Billiard> RoastedTiresX: that shows the setgid bit is set, which is what you want
[22:55] <theo76> ciao!
[22:55] <Zico> Hello
[22:55] <RoastedTiresX> billiard - I see. So its just a way from terminal to know that that directory has g+s rights.
[22:56] <Billiard> RoastedTiresX: yes, a small s means x is also set
[22:56] <k5ehx> system4041: yeah, "gksudo nautilus" works on my 9.04 install
[22:56] <RoastedTiresX> billiard - is there a way to automatically apply 775 rights to anything I dump in a folder? I know I can hit "apply permissions to enclosed files" in the GUI on the parent folder, which is simple, but figured I'd ask.
[22:56] <Scunizi> pyhacker: try rebooting and on the grub menu choose rescue
[22:56] <system4041> k5ehx: that done the trick my files are copying over now thanks for your help dude
[22:57] <k5ehx> system4041: sorry it took me a bit to figure out what you meant. :-)
[22:57] <pyhacker> Scunizi: --there is a recover mode, i tried it, but none of it's help options actually fix anything.
[22:57] <hrbllv66> tst
[22:57] <Billiard> RoastedTiresX: i dont know of an easy way, there might be some kind of settings somewhere for certain directory rules
[22:57] <k5ehx> hrbllv66: it works
[22:58] <system4041> k5ehx: lol cool man thanks i been spendin hours trying to find apps for windows that will read my ext3 partition so i could copy files over but none seemed to work in win 7 ultimate shoulda just came here first lmao cheers again man
[22:58] <hrbllv66> jut testing irrsi
[22:58] <Exatic> Hello. Im trying to awn to work, but everytime i try to start it says my screen is not in composit and i need to run compiz
[22:58] <RoastedTiresX> billiard - all good. The group thing is a big thing though. It was a pain for me to use terminal all of the time to change it. Its nice to know something like setgid is here.
[22:58] <Exatic> i have tried to run compiz from terminal, it doesent help
[22:58] <Billiard> RoastedTiresX: also directories created in a directory with the setgid bit will also have the setgid bit set
[22:58] <k5ehx> system4041: yeah, you'd think windows would make it easier to migrate from linux. :-)
[22:58] <RoastedTiresX> billiard - good to know.
[22:59] <system4041> lol windows is gay but it has its uses
[22:59] <soreau> Exatic: Can you pastebin the output of compiz? Also, it might be helpful if you come to #compiz so we can help you get compiz working
[22:59] <RoastedTiresX> billiard - so setgid isnt always the route to go with when setting up permissions, for say, a large file server.
[22:59] <RoastedTiresX> billiard - well actually I take that back
[22:59] <Scunizi> pyhacker: go there again and when you get the menu choose terminal. then do the things I mentioned before.
[22:59] <RoastedTiresX> billiard - cause you can just setgid to each users individual folder so anything they create gets their own group id you set it to.
[23:00] <Billiard> RoastedTiresX: it depends what you want that directory for, if you want to share files between people and all have rw permissions it can be useful
[23:00] <pyhacker> Scunizi: ok, will try.
[23:02] <RoastedTiresX> Billiard - yeah. I was just thinking at work... I work at a school district sotheres a ton of file servers for teachers and such. I was thinking setgid would be bad to use, but I was thinking you had to use it on the root directory of where the shares are. But in reality, say you have /media/storage/users/then all of the teacher shares there.
[23:02] <maneatingracoon> Hey can someone help me?
[23:02] <RoastedTiresX> billiard - youc ould just chmod g+s to each individual teacher share so they get the same group for each folder.
[23:02] <maneatingracoon> I am trying to install drivers and I have a file called a makefile with a bunch of code in it how do i open it?
[23:03] <RoastedTiresX> billiard - I was thinking using it on /media/storage/users would be bad, but I wasnt thinking that you could just apply it to each teacher folder itself.
[23:03] <DuckGod> do any of you guys know much about wine?
[23:03] <paultag> DuckGod, yo
[23:03] <DuckGod> whats up?
[23:04] <paultag> DuckGod, I know  a bit about wine, why?
[23:04] <DuckGod> when i open my wine virtual desktop it wont maximize to full screen an when it does it just takes the image of my desktop what do i do?
[23:04] <docmax> can i install windows drivers with wine?
[23:04] <paultag> DuckGod, Ohhhh, I thought you ment the drink. But Yeah, I can help out with WINE as well.
[23:04] <Billiard> RoastedTiresX: if you want all members of the group to have rw permissions on newly created files that will work
[23:04] <nick_sch1mbri> maneatingracoon: what driver are you tryingtoinstall
[23:04] <DuckGod> ive deleted an an reinstalled it but it does the same thing
[23:04] <paultag> DuckGod, winecfg, try that out
[23:05] <paultag> docmax, no
[23:05] <paultag> docmax, but you can use ndiswrapper for network windows drivers
[23:05] <Mavs> any idea for installing ubuntu on a machine without cd/usb/floppy
[23:05] <DuckGod> in the terminal or on wine itself?
[23:05] <paultag> DuckGod, term
[23:06] <laclasse> Mavs, does it runs anything currently?
[23:06] <paultag> DuckGod, You can set most wine options in there -- one is the virtual desktop
[23:06] <paultag> DuckGod, helps if your chipset blows with a fullscreen app
[23:06] <paultag> DuckGod, among other things
[23:06] <kfizz1> It takes a while to login to my school's solaris box if not on the campus network, so when I try to SFTP with nautilus, it times out. Is there any way I can increase the amount of time before nautilus times out?
[23:06] <Mavs> yes
[23:06] <DuckGod> thats what my problem is its when i try to do the configuration
[23:06] <RoastedTiresX> billiard - good deal. thanks for the help.
[23:06] <Mavs> it runs xp and modified ubuntu
[23:06] <mrnicelupe> Mavs: If it has Windows on, download the .iso from Ubuntu.com and mount it with Daemon Tools Lite or similar
[23:06] <Mavs> jolicloud
[23:06] <Billiard> Mavs: install to hard drive with a different machine that has a cd drive
[23:06] <Billiard> RoastedTiresX: np
[23:07] <Mavs> I don't want wubi
[23:07] <laclasse> Mavs, if windows, there are ubuntu installers, if another linux you can bootstrap ubuntu the same as debian providing you have network and at least an 100 mb free partition
[23:07] <laclasse> goole bootstrap ubuntu
[23:08] <hmmhesays> hello all, I'm trying to figure out what wireless chipset is in this laptop
[23:08] <hmmhesays> only have ssh access
[23:08] <DuckGod> i can get my games an programs to work but when i do the configuration for the virtual desktop it jus sticks on the top of the screen an i cant read the rest of the configuration options
[23:08] <jezlee> hi, sorry, but my newly burnt ubuntu desktop 9.10 RC is not working, it boots in computer fine, but when I select try or install, I get booted to a flashing command prompt
[23:08] <te> hmmhesays: lspci
[23:08] <hmmhesays> 09:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Unknown device 002a (rev 01) <-- that doesn't help me much
[23:08] <te> hmmhesays: lspci |grep Wireless
[23:08] <tim1> hello, anyone german here?
[23:09] <te> hmmhesays: Why not?
[23:09] <MostafaSheshtawy> ja
[23:09] <Insomniac`> Hey guys. I'm having a few issues with my package manager. It's saying I tried to install mysql-server-5.0 but I'm using 5.1, and it's halting the install of anthing else besides that 5.0 package. What do I need to do to rectify this?
[23:09] <paultag> tim1, nein, aber ich kann nur ein bisschen deutch sprechen :/
[23:09] <hmmhesays> grep wireless isn't not going to help me haha when that line is my wireless card
[23:09] <MostafaSheshtawy> ich kanne
[23:09] <Mr_Orange> Does anyone see anything wrong with this crontab entry? @daily /etc/squeezer2.pl >> "/var/www/wordpress/squidlogs/`/bin/date +'%B %-d %Y'` - report.html" 2>&1
[23:09] <Mr_Orange> It doesnt even generate the file
[23:10] <tim1> ich wollte eben linux-kernel-devel auf ubuntu 9.04 mit apt-get installieren aber der sagt immer das er das paket nicht finden konnte
[23:10] <tim1> kann mir da einer helfen?
[23:10] <bastid_raZor> !de |  tim1
[23:10] <ikonia> Mr_Orange: no space between ` and - neded
[23:10] <Guest36408> hello
[23:10] <Scunizi> tim1: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[23:11] <kfizz1> It takes a while to login to my school's solaris box if not on the campus network, so when I try to SFTP with nautilus, it times out. Is there any way I can increase the amount of time before nautilus times out?
[23:11] <Mr_Orange> ikonia: i did that strictly for formatting purposes of tthe file name
[23:11] <Guest36408> I am trying to install ubuntu from a flash drive, but I'm having issues. Can someone help me troubleshoot?
[23:11] <te> hmmhesays: What are you trying to do?
[23:11] <hmmhesays> Cause it says "Unknown Device"
[23:11] <hmmhesays> get that wireless card to work
[23:11] <usser> Mr_Orange, put it all in a bash script, all that file redirection and `/bin/date` is what confusing cron
[23:11] <hmmhesays> trying to figure out the chipset so I can even see if ndiswrapper will work
[23:11] <te> hmmhesays: Try: http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi/
[23:12] <XsCode> madwifi should be built in?? my silver card works without any config
[23:12] <Guest36408> I'm having problems with grub -- it says Kernel Panic -- please append a correct "root=" boot option
[23:12] <Guest36408> but I don't know what that is
[23:13] <Guest36408> can anyone hear me?
[23:13] <te> !info madwifi
[23:13] <Billiard> Guest36408: everyone can hear you
[23:13] <Mr_Orange> usser: i will give that a shot
[23:14] <tim1> hmm, ok. wenn ich dann aber weiter mit vmware server will sagt er bei configure folgendes: http://www.vmware.com/support/reference/linux/prebuilt_modules_linux.html
[23:14] <Insomniac`> I'm having a few issues with my package manager. It's saying I tried to install mysql-server-5.0 but I'm using 5.1, and it's halting the install of anthing else besides that 5.0 package. What do I need to do to rectify this?
[23:14] <semitones> just making sure
[23:14] <tim1> Unable to build the vmmon module.
[23:14] <Mr_Orange> usser: thanks for the help
[23:14] <semitones> my root option right now is "root (cd)" is that incorrect?
[23:14] <XsCode> freaky... mine does... even the live disk
[23:15] <RussellAlan> Anyone around for some kde help?
[23:15] <te> Insomniac`: I suppose you could blacklist it.  But you might just try apt-get --fix-broken
[23:15] <te> RussellAlan: What do you need?
[23:16] <RussellAlan> I have no taskbar nor do I have launcher.
[23:16] <RussellAlan> I am on 9.10, someone told me to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:16] <Bluey> RussellAlan: it should come with gnome already insalled
[23:16] <RussellAlan> when i restarted it took me into gnome naturally.. now I switched over to kde, and I have a desktop. Not like the kubuntu desktop with widgets and what not.
[23:17] <RussellAlan> Bluey:  I installed kubuntu naturally, then upgraded to karmic.
[23:17] <RussellAlan> Should I just do a fresh install?
[23:17]  * Bluey is not a kde guy....
[23:17] <RussellAlan> or is there hope? =D
[23:17] <RussellAlan> sell me on gnome
[23:17] <RussellAlan> ;-)
[23:17] <Bluey> RussellAlan: I always do fresh installs
[23:17] <MacGyverNL> Gnome has cookies.
[23:18] <Bluey> and - "there's no place like gnome!"
[23:18] <jezlee> My 9.10 LiveCD is not working too well, what do I do?
[23:18] <RussellAlan> yay cookies
[23:18] <Bluey> jezlee: did you md5sum check it?
[23:18] <jezlee> yes
[23:19] <MacGyverNL> Regarding your problem, a full uninstallation of a window manager takes more than just uninstalling the meta-package. For instance, installing gnome and KDE side to side has the effect of having both Gnome and KDE native apps available in both environments, but simply uninstalling "ubuntu-desktop" doesn't get rid of gnome.
[23:19] <Bluey> jezlee: can you try it on another system?
[23:19] <Insomniac`> te, apt-get --fix-broken does not work, it just shows the listing options
[23:19] <jezlee> Bluey It boots fine, but when i select "try" or "install" it does somethings then boots me to an unusable flashing command prompt screen
[23:20] <MacGyverNL> So if you can find out which specific packages to uninstall you might be able to fix it back to only kde, or gnome, or whatever you want.
[23:20] <MacGyverNL> But a fresh install might be faster.
[23:20] <MacGyverNL> At least, that's as far as I know.
[23:20] <Bluey> jezlee: is the the beta or daily build?  32 or 64 bit?
[23:20] <MacGyverNL> I could be wrong, though, so get a second opinion.
[23:20] <RussellAlan> yeah, fresh install might fix all my problems
[23:20] <jezlee> Bluey it is ubuntu Desktop 9.10 32bit Release Candidate
[23:21] <Bluey> jezlee: dunno you are first person to report problems with it...
[23:21] <XsCode> jezlee:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1295120 but that's for an installation, not the live disk
[23:21] <alazyworkaholic> what's the area in UNR at the top of the screen called where applications tabs go? I removed it by mistake.
[23:22] <WiresAP> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu for the first time, and am doing so on a windows netbook ((eeePC 1005HA). I've followed all the instructions online, and checked the md5 sums of everything I was able to, but wubi will not run. Where might I get some help?
[23:22] <WiresAP> (Thanks in advance!)
[23:23] <RussellAlan> well karmic koala official release is the 29th, so maybe ill wait to do fresh install then
[23:24] <n8tuser> WiresAP -> try netbootin for a true install, wubi is more like a try out and kick the tires
[23:24] <gogeta> unetbootin
[23:24] <WiresAP> thanks - will now take a look at that
[23:24] <ours_en_pluche> bonjour a toutes et a tous :)
[23:24] <gogeta> !fr
[23:25] <GodfatherofEire> Is there any noticable performance difference (for a regular user, not a server admin) when using xfs instead of ext4?
[23:26] <ascheel> Can someone tell me the difference between 'clear' and 'clear_console'?
[23:26] <usser> ascheel, terminal is not console :)
[23:26] <ascheel> I'm not sure I understand what you mean, usser.
[23:27] <usser> ascheel, in other words clear_console works only on real consoles, the kind you get when you press ctrl+alt+f2
[23:27] <ascheel> usser, I disagree.  clear_console was in my .bash_logout and it certainly was clearing my ssh screen when I 'exite'ed
[23:28] <ascheel> 'exit'ed
[23:28] <ascheel> usser, when I commented it from .bash_logout, my screen no longer cleared on exit
[23:29] <pyhacker> I recreated my Xconf file, and that is the reason, i suspect, why my ubuntu doesn't load anymore. After the loading bar i get a screen with messed up pixels and it doesn't respond to anything. I tried going into recovery mode and finding the Xconf file and doing mv <backup> (what i thought was the backup) as suggested here, but it didn't help. Is there anything else I can do? I'm on a liveCD right now, is it possib
[23:29] <usser> ascheel, were you ssh'ing from a real terminal or something like xterm or gnome-terminal
[23:29] <ascheel> usser, from gnome-terminal
[23:29] <Billiard> pyhacker: could you hit ctrl+alt+f1 when you had the "messed up pixels"
[23:29] <ascheel> usser: from an ubuntu laptop to my ubuntu server at home
[23:30] <hmmhesays> i compiled madwifi
[23:30] <pyhacker> Billiard: I tried presseing ctrl+alt+2 many times and it didn't do anything. Same with ctrl+alt+1 (though i didn't press it lots of timeS).
[23:30] <ascheel> using xterm-256color emulation if that matters
[23:30] <XsCode> pyhacker: you tried using the vesa driver to see if it loads the desktop?
[23:30] <ascheel> usser:  ^^^
[23:30] <hmmhesays> modprobe ath_pci, it loaded, but still my wireless does not show up in iwconfig
[23:30] <usser> ascheel, hm strange, i just tried it here, from gnome-terminal and it says clear_console: terminal is not a console
[23:30] <Billiard> pyhacker: f1 f2
[23:30] <pyhacker> XsCode: Don't understand--what do you mean?
[23:30] <ascheel> usser, not sure.  Try clear_console -q
[23:31] <XsCode> chance the device string to vesa in xorg.conf
[23:31] <pyhacker> Billiard: I tried f1.... i suspect that it doesn't respond to anything.
[23:31] <Billiard> pyhacker: ctrl alt f1 ?
[23:31] <X7> is it possible to use dd to wrote a whole harddrive to a file, to be restored later using DD ???
[23:31] <pyhacker> Billiard: Yes
[23:32] <ascheel> usser: interesting.  It will clear it if I'm SSH'ed home, but not on my local session.
[23:32] <pyhacker> XsCode: So i should try to use the recovery mode terminal to try and edit the Xconf file and change device to vesa?
[23:32] <Billiard> pyhacker: ok, in the recovery console, `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg` ?
[23:33] <pyhacker> Billiard: I tried something very similar "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" (as i read on a forum) but this had no effect.
[23:34] <Billiard> pyhacker: try manually eding your xorg.conf file maybe, to more generic settings
[23:34] <XsCode> hence vesa :)
[23:34] <pyhacker> ok so how should i do it?
[23:35] <X7> is it possible to use dd to wrote a whole harddrive to a file, to be restored later using DD ???
[23:35] <Billiard> pyhacker: recovery console `nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf`
[23:35] <Billiard> X7: thats possible
[23:35] <Schiz0> According to top, a large majority of my CPU time is in iowait. What are some tools I can use to figure out what this IO is (eg, HDD or network, or what?)
[23:36] <X7> Billiard, how do I go about doing that? i would just use dd from one hd to another but there is only one ide slot on this machine
[23:36] <UserX> anyone had any luck with vb under mono?
[23:36] <pyhacker> Billiard: OK i will try to do this, this will open the file, right? Then i'll change devise to vesa.  Is that correct?
[23:36] <Billiard> pyhacker: yeah you could change the resolution to something lower maybe too 800600 or 640480
[23:37] <Billiard> X7: then i dont know how you will copy one hard drive to the other
[23:37] <X7> Billiard, i will save the file on to a usb stick....
[23:37] <Raugturi> ascheel & usser: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash/+bug/39068
[23:37] <magikid> What is the command to format a drive as fat?
[23:37] <pyhacker> Billiard: Alright, i will try to this now....
[23:37] <Billiard> UserX: stay away from .net lol
[23:37] <X7> Billiard, do you know the command ?
[23:37] <Billiard> X7: your usb stick is bigger than your hard drive?
[23:37] <Gratz474> is there any GTK grep out there?
[23:38] <X7> Billiard, yes, bigger than the old harddrie.
[23:38] <X7> drive*
[23:38] <Billiard> X7: then you can use dd for that
[23:38] <Gluac> hey guys, everytime my user "dave" uploads a file into a certain dir I want it to be "-rw-r--r-- 1 root    root" .... I'm guessing I'll have to change his umask for this, how would that be possible?A
[23:38] <fbianconi> Schiz0: fuser, gnome-system-monitor
[23:38] <ascheel> Raugturi: thank you VERY much!  :)  next question...  what's ncurses?
[23:38] <X7> Billiard, I don't want to DD the usb stick, just DD this HD to a file to copy on to the usb..............
[23:39] <Billiard> X7: you can do that
[23:39] <Gluac> anyone?
[23:39] <Raugturi> ascheel: I'll let someone more knowledgable than me field that one.
[23:39] <X7> Billiard, ok, obviously you did not listen, and realize I needed the command to do so.
[23:39] <X7> Billiard, thanks anyway.
[23:39] <Billiard> Gluac: you cant do that easily
[23:39] <Billiard> X7: you did not ask for a command ever
[23:39] <Billiard> X7: you asked if it was possible
[23:39] <Gluac> Billiard: thanks
[23:39] <X7> Billiard, i asked if you knew the command earlier
[23:40] <Billiard> X7: sorry didnt see that
[23:40] <X7> Billiard, so what is the cmd to write a HD to 1 file using dd ?
[23:40] <X7> dd of /dev/sda1 > file.name ?
[23:40] <laclasse> X7, dd if=/dev/sda of=file.img
[23:40] <Billiard> X7: sorry yes that works
[23:41] <LinuX2half> My line 2 in fstab files turned out to be bad...
[23:41] <mazda01> can someone please look in /lib/oss-compat/linux and tell me if there is a file that is symlinked to /etc/modprobe.d/oss-compat.conf? i am getting a failure to install a new kernel image. here's a pic   http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=linuximage.png
[23:41] <LinuX2half> what should I do to  resolve this issue?
[23:41] <Gluac> Billiard: can I atleast make it so it's "-rw-r--r--
[23:41] <laclasse> X7, man dd
[23:41] <X7> laclasse, ok thanks, can you tell me how to specify in that command writing that file to a specific location ?
[23:41] <ascheel> LinuX2half: what does the line say?
[23:41] <fbianconi> ascheel: ncurses it's a console based interface, you can draw buttons and frames in text mode with it.
[23:41] <laclasse> X7, yes, go and read the ouitput of the command 'man dd'
[23:41] <X7> laclasse, ok
[23:41] <ascheel> thanks, fbianconi.  :)  That makes sense.
[23:42] <Billiard> Gluac: setting his umask to 0022 should do that i think
[23:42] <laclasse> X7, dd if=/dev/sda of=/INSERT/WHERE/YOU/WANT/file.img
[23:42] <LinuX2half> ascheel:ubuntu2009@unbuntu2009-laptop:~$ sudo mount -a
[23:42] <LinuX2half> [mntent]: line 2 in /etc/fstab is bad
[23:42] <maneatingracoon> can someone tell me how to get my monitor to work?
[23:43] <Billiard> X7: your `dd if=/dev/sda > pathtofile/image.dd` works too
[23:43] <ascheel> LinuX2half: you have to give us line 2 of your fstab
[23:43] <maneatingracoon> I can only set the resultion to 600x 500 or somthing..
[23:43] <quidnunc> Anyone else have problems doing an IP whois in ERC in emacs?
[23:43] <c4pt> fbianconi: to do what?
[23:43] <c4pt> fbianconi: with ncurses ??
[23:43] <X7> laclasse, Billiard thanks. and then i would use, dd if=/image.img of=/new/hard/drive?
[23:43] <laclasse> yes
[23:43] <X7> kk.
[23:44] <LinuX2half> ascheel:http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/d5a51cd05
[23:44] <X7> laclasse, one last q, i know i will need to resize it from gparted, but can I run the copy of the old HD from a running ubuntu system or, must it be a live-cd?
[23:44] <maneatingracoon> How do you increase the resolution of linux I only have two settings on mine and my moniter isnt being detected.
[23:44] <Billiard> X7: i wouldnt dd to a new hard drive unless its ecactly the same size, you will have to resize the partitions if its not
[23:44] <X7> Billiard, yea i read about that, can be solved with a live-cd
[23:45] <Billiard> X7: yea it can
[23:45] <semitones> how do I find what linux kernel is on a live cd or usb drive aside from booting it?
[23:45] <X7> is it going to matter if I dd this hd to a .img while its running?
[23:45] <laclasse> X7, any operation as low level as re imaging / dd ing drive, better be in an outside environment (live-cd) and chroot in as needed
[23:45] <ascheel> LinuX2half: try getting rid of the second 'swap' in that line.
[23:45] <ubuntu_mad> oh there you all are lol
[23:45] <laclasse> X7, YES.
[23:45] <Billiard> X7: i wouldnt do it while its mounted
[23:45] <ascheel> making it:  /dev/sda5 none swap sw 0 0
[23:45] <X7> ok, ... what is chroot?
[23:45] <laclasse> X7, man chroot
[23:46] <ubuntu_mad> FF 3.0.14 on Jaunty running very slow and slowing my system,help??
[23:46] <donangello> www.is-crew.at
[23:46] <fbianconi> c4pt: ncurses its a library used by programs for making text interfaces (something like what is gtk, for making graphic interfaces)
[23:46] <Billiard> ubuntu_mad: how much ram do you have?
[23:46] <semitones> what version of the linux kernel ships with 9.04?
[23:47] <X7> laclasse, sorry, read that. but what does that mean for me when doing this operation?
[23:47] <laclasse> X7, it means download and boot in a love cd to image your dri ves
[23:47] <LinuX2half> ascheel:, yes it worked, the error has disappeared, thanks
[23:47] <laclasse> lol
[23:47] <laclasse> s/love/live
[23:47] <X7> laclasse, the chroot part..?
[23:47] <UserX> semitones: 2.6.28-13
[23:47] <ubuntu_mad> Billiard: 2GB
[23:48] <laclasse> X7, chroot allows you to be insde the old or new root of your systems
[23:48] <semitones> UserX: thanks!
[23:48] <UserX> semitones: that's what uname -a says :)
[23:48] <maneatingracoon> Can someone help me ubunto wont detect my moniter.
[23:48] <X7> laclasse, ok, how does that effect what I need to do from live-cd though?
[23:48] <semitones> UserX: wait... have you updated since you installed though?
[23:48] <laclasse> X7, boot into live cd-> 2 drives -> do your dd / imaging
[23:48] <laclasse> X7, nope
[23:48] <laclasse> X7, oh yeah ... back up.
[23:48] <semitones> UserX: i'm trying to find the kernel version on the live cd so I can make a boot from usb cd
[23:48] <X7> laclasse, I am confused now.
[23:48] <nick_sch1mbri> maneatingracoon: there is a free ubuntu linux book
[23:49] <laclasse> X7, why would you? forget i said chroot, and go ahead
[23:49] <nick_sch1mbri> maneatingracoon: do you have blue letter on your keyboard
[23:49] <ubuntu_mad> Billiard: its only a recent problem,have all add-ons disabled too
[23:49] <X7> laclasse, I dont know what I need to do with chroot lol
[23:50] <laclasse> nothing
[23:50] <Billiard> ubuntu_mad: idk
[23:50] <semitones> does it say on the live cd or on the website somewhere what the kernel version is
[23:50] <X7> laclasse, ~_~
[23:51] <ubuntu_mad> Billiard: idk???
[23:51] <Billiard> X7: idk why he wants you to use chroot either
[23:51] <laclasse> ubuntu_mad, create a new profile by running the profile manager,  and see if it is as slow in a nnew profile
[23:51]  * raid0 kalinixtes
[23:51] <X7> Billiard, I think i got it all, just he confused me with the whole chroot business
[23:52] <laclasse> oh jeesus i never said use chroot ... i said you could if you needed to be 'in' the old system from the live cd
[23:52] <laclasse> you should do more reading
[23:52] <ubuntu_mad> laclasse: ok...and then? after i restart it is goes ok but after time running it slows right down
[23:52] <X7> which cd on the website is the live-cd the alternate cd??
[23:52] <Billiard> X7: deskop
[23:52] <X7> laclasse, or i could just mount it
[23:52] <semitones> it is 2.6.28 afterall -- thanks UserX
[23:53] <ubuntu_mad> laclasse:i gotta go I will be back tomorrow to troubleshoot more
[23:53] <X7> !livecd
[23:53] <laclasse> ubuntu_mad, clear often the cache and your cookies, :)
[23:53] <UserX> semitones: ah. wasn't sure if the version changed after updates... didn't make sense if it did though
[23:53] <ubuntu_mad> laclasse: ok thanks
[23:53] <semitones> UserX: yeah -- the smaller number does change though. when it shipped it was 2.6.28-11
[23:53] <semitones> now it's -13 or something
[23:54] <UserX> yeah that's correct
[23:54] <Joeseph> I am using ubuntu via ssh with X forwarding.  I was wondering what the name of that fancy network tools program is so I can run it real quick... anyone know?
[23:54] <aj_444> Hello, I'm runing Ubuntu 9.10 beta and noticed the Release Candidate is now available for download. Am I able to upgrade to that version from within Ubuntu 9.10 beta, or do I need to clean install?
[23:54] <X7> whats the command to find info on a dvd/cd-drive in linux?
[23:54] <X7> lspci doesn't show it
[23:55] <stone1343> aj_444 if you update through Synaptic, you're already there
[23:55] <bastid_raZor> X7: sudo lshw | grep CD
[23:55] <aj_444> stone1343: I'm not sure what you mean.
[23:55] <X7> bastid_raZor, thanks
[23:56] <stone1343> aj_444 the updates you get through Synaptic update you to the RC
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[23:56] <FloodBot3> donangello: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:56] <aj_444> stone1343: So I go to synaptic, and hit mark all upgrades?
[23:57] <stone1343> aj_444 once you install the RC, it'll keep you up-to-date
[23:57] <stone1343> aj_444 yes
[23:57] <donangello> k
[23:57] <semitones> man, how hard is it to make a cd that tells the computer, "boot from USB actually"
[23:57] <aj_444> stone1343: Ok. Thanks for the help.
[23:57] <stone1343> aj_444 it's one of the things I love about ubuntu
[23:57] <intlautoparts> i have a cel d processor 80 gig hd and a marvell wireless card running xfce desktop can any1 help me get my card to work
[23:58] <intlautoparts> it works directly
[23:58] <stone1343> aj_444 np